Some of you read the post title and immediately thought it referred to Tony’s classic master of the universe maxim:
Nothing wrong with this version of game. Power is, after all, the ultimate aphrodisiac to the female libido. But power derived from insane wealth takes a lot of work to acquire. What if you just want some quickie game to charm the lady in front of you, right now? Zipless fuck game, if you will.
Commenter Scray writes of another aspect to Tony Montana’s tight game:
Also, game in the movies…I never really got it before, but Tony Montana seems to have some game:
He drops a huge neg on her (it’s pretty nuclear but seems correct considering how low value she seemed to think he was). Then, when she gets pissed, he gives a pretty alpha smirk (I may try to steal that look actually lol)…”now you’re talking to me, -that- I like.”
The huge neg (really, more an insult than a neg, but whatever works) Scray refers to is the line (around 1:30), “Only you got a look in your eye like you haven’t been FUCKED in a year”. A line which, if I’m not mistaken, was lifted and reformatted for a sensible SWPL audience by Mystery et al. and incorporated into early ’00s game.
But the best part is how Tony handles Elvira’s inevitable (and quite caustic) follow-up shit test, “Hey Jose, who I fuck is none of your business.”
He replies, smirking egregiously, “Now you’re talking to me, *that* I like. Keep it coming baby!”
Patronizing condescension in full effect. THIS is how you handle a merciless shit test from a hard 10* who would make the typical beta puffboy crumple to the floor wetting his underoos. It says all the right things that chicks love in men: Amused mastery. Grace under pressure. Cocky humor. Dismissive entitlement. Daring. Impervious self-regard. Self-confidence. Immunity to beauty.
I want you to try this line the next time some hot chick gives you shit. “Now you’re talking to me, *that* I like. Keep it coming.” Report back here. This line is a shockwave of alpha. I predict that responses will be mostly positive. It may take an hour or two for the deep impact to scour the needy hole in her heart, but she’ll be thinking about you, and imagining… scenarios… transactions.
You say you can’t possibly utter such a gaudy line to a girl? Surprise yourself. If you aren’t doing something every so often that scares you a little, you aren’t growing as a man. In return, you may be surprised by the rewards lavished upon you by suddenly curious women who have had their expectations joyously defied.
*Yes, Michelle Pfeiffer was a hard 10 back in the day. One of the few who could accurately be described as such. Pointy elbow syndrome nerds, before you comment, please find the nearest couch crease and empty your tepid seed into it. The world of men thanks you for living your shame in solitude.
What if she’s seen Scarface? Ha, just kidding.
[Ch: If a girl I’m hitting on has, like me, the coolness to discover and remember classic cultural refs for retrieval during some flirtatious banter, I’m a’gonna fall right in love with her.]
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She’ll be all, “OMG! My dad *lit’rully* loves that movie!”
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Get raped and die.
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Then she must either be a unicorn or have an attention span greater than 5 seconds.
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“[Ch: If a girl I’m hitting on has, like me, the coolness to discover and remember classic cultural refs for retrieval during some flirtatious banter, I’m a’gonna fall right in love with her.]”
There was a kinda hot swimming instructor at the pool today, who had one of her pupils diving to the bottom of the pool, to retrieve stuff, for fun, at the end of his lesson, and I said, “Wow, he’s a regular Jacques Cousteau!”
And I don’t think she had any earthly idea what [much less whom] I was talking about.
A big [scratch that – a HUGE] part of “Game” these days consists of simply dumbing down your delivery sufficiently so that the conversation doesn’t soar right over her head before it [the conversation] has even started.
Being able to talk to a chick as though she were some sort of an equal is getting to be a distant, almost ancient memory for me – makes me wonder if it ever even happened back in the day – or if I’m just fooling myself with invented memories.
In retrospect, I don’t know that even in graduate school there were any chicks who could carry on a really first-rate conversation.
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Hey Zombie, look at the pelican fly. Come on pelican!
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Are you ovulating in the next coupla days?
Cause you seem even friskier than usual.
Someone needs to put a bun in your oven.
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You don’t got nothing to do with your life. Why don’t you get a job? Work with lepers. Blind kids. Anything’s gotta be better than lying around all day waiting for me to fuck you.
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Damn this Tony Montana game shit is boss.
[CH: The bossest. But there’s a reason it’s called Tony Montana game and not Tonya Montana game.]
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“You don’t got nothing to do with your life. Why don’t you get a job?”
He likes to be on top of every CH thread using lots of capital letters for emphasis.
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“[CH: The bossest. But there’s a reason it’s called Tony Montana game and not Tonya Montana game.]”
Man, what I I want is some Hanna Montana game to miraculously launch myself to the top spot of the Maxim Hot 100 list despite my dubious qualifications for the position.
[CH: I don’t read Maxim. She’s cute and bangable, but not top of top 100 material. If you want the real scoop on which women men prefer, check out porn, playboy, or any glossy product marketed to men with women as the focus. How hot were the other 99 in Maxim? A one-off doesn’t tell us much except to remind everyone that nepotism and back-scratching still count for something.]
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[CH: I don’t read Maxim. She’s cute and bangable, but not top of top 100 material. If you want the real scoop on which women men prefer, check out porn, playboy, or any glossy product marketed to men with women as the focus. How hot were the other 99 in Maxim? A one-off doesn’t tell us much except to remind everyone that nepotism and back-scratching still count for something.]
She is cute, but yeah, top #1? why? It’s less absurd that Gwyneth as world’s most beautiful person though. The other 99 are all hot from what I saw, but there appears to be no logic to the ranking order. There are some ranked in the 90s that appear better looking than others ranked in the top 10.
“If you want the real scoop on which women men prefer, check out porn, playboy, or any glossy product marketed to men with women as the focus.”
Ok. So far it seems men prefer naked and willing women 🙂
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speaking of not being fucked in a year…..
how’s your boyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriendboyfriend?
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[CH: I don’t read Maxim. She’s cute and bangable, but not top of top 100 material. If you want the real scoop on which women men prefer, check out porn, playboy, or any glossy product marketed to men with women as the focus. ]
A web search for “hot chicks thread” or “hot women thread” also yields good results.
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lol that pelican shit has always been my favorite line in that movie, actually. perhaps it is because i selfishly do that sort of thing all the time with people. i.e., completely ignore whatever they’re talking about and engage with sincere, childlike wonder into whatever random thing crosses into my field of view at that moment. you would think that it would piss people off, but i think they just realize that they aren’t being interesting and they actually seem more ashamed than angry
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The only movies that are a safe bet girls have seen are any of the Disney princess movies. Sure that’s why we are in this terrible situation…but you got to take what is given to you.
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girls?
You idiots! These are not them! You’ve captured their stunt doubles!
— Spaceballs
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oh shit
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Just more proof that you can, in fact, Google anything on the internet now.
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she’s in the zone
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JG speaks the truth. I never saw spaceballs and I barely even heard of Scarface before this thread.
The disney princess movies are indeed dear to me. I know the words to the songs, and I like to sing them to myself while dancing in front of the mirror.
But i started watching clips of Scarface at work yesterday. The kid next to me was like “why are you laughing so much?”
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“makes me wonder if it ever even happened back in the day – or if I’m just fooling myself with invented memories.”
That’s why back in the Victorian Age women were educated in literature, art, and music so that they could carry on conversations during dinner parties. Maybe you’re right and there is a decline in women’s education, despite all the schooling they get. After all, women and gender studies are very poor substitutes.
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the Geishas too
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There’s a decline in all education despite more schooling. Of course, the vast majority of education is self-education, which requires a future time orientation, which, as we are now informed, is racist.
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how old was the swimming instructor? if you’re an older guy and hitting on younger women as you should be, it’s easy for pop culture references familiar to you to fly over their heads. back in the day, you were probably hitting on women closer to your age so getting the references wouldn’t have been so hard for them.
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[Ch: If a girl I’m hitting on has, like me, the coolness to discover and remember classic cultural refs for retrieval during some flirtatious banter, I’m a’gonna fall right in love with her.]
And if she called me out on a Scarface reference like that, I’d say just that to her- “Oh, you’re trying to get me to fall in love with you, aren’t you–remembering quotes from one of my favorite old movies.”
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No joke, I am a girl and I’ve probably seen Scarface 10+ times. It’s just an American classic on so many levels.
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Howdy,
Game and hypergamy movies … Pale Rider with Clint Eastwood (as the alpha male) and Michael Moriarty (as the beta male) and Carrie Snodgrass as the hypergamy female to the max X 100.
It’s so obvious it smacks you in the face.
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zlozozoo
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Anyone who could possibly doubt that Michelle Pfeiffer was a 10 doesn’t have a soul.
Or possibly wasn’t young during the 80s. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089346/ etc.
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Hmm, but in the movie, she didn’t really take Tony seriously until he made it clear that he was going to depose Frank. THAT’S when you started seeing her really tingle.
[CH: Every ending has an opening.]
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Another great scene is when Tony goes 90 on her in the car and she rejects him. His REACTION — smirking like he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and then busting on her (you want to play with me? +puts on her hat* I play with you…)…gets her smiling and laughing.
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say hello to my little friend…(then unzip)
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my favorite is how MATTHEW KING watches down form the rafterz lzozozozzzzoz
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hahahaha GOLD!!!!!!!!!
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I lolled. I never lol.
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Hey, guys. How’s things?
I searched all night for a video or gif that like summed you up like soooo perfectly. Oddly enough I came up with nothing.
How do you caricature a nothing?
(Where’s Greg with his happy rapier? He carves up rubbish piles like this with panache. He slices garbage into ribbons and turns ribbons into art. Though I get it: the stench eventually nauseates, even overwhelms.)
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da gbfm took timez out of his busy scheeudle to help you out!!
here is a video dat sumamrizes da GAM GBFM GAME da GAME OF da GBDM zlozozozo
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Hey I know that bar. It’s worse than Detroit.
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NICE SEXY TIME. HIGH FIVE
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lolzozlozzzlozz .Michelle Pfeiffer was a 10. Indeed. My college roommate once declared, “I would eat her poop.” I would not do that, but she was, indeed, a 10. Even in the Batman era circa 1992. lzolzzz
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7. maybe a soft 8, see plenty of better looking on the streets everyday.
one of the perks of living in sweden maybe,
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Rumor has it they’re planning a remake. I can’t imagine any of today’s Hollywood nancyboys filling Pacino’s shoes. Christian Bale would be tolerable but I’m bracing myself for a Shia LaBoeuf shitfest.
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http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/paul-attanasio-to-rewrite-universals-scarface-remake/
I’m guessing they’re gonna go with the Mexican/cartels angle. It’d be fresh if the new Scarface is Asian, though:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3526519
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In this day and age, I would not be surprised if they made the next scarface a woman
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Well, if they’re going to make James Bond gay, why not Scarface a woman.
[CH: Not sure which has lower odds of actually occurring in the real world: a female international spy with a kill sheet a mile long, or an ultraviolent drug lord? The mind reels with the horribly limited possibilities.]
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Meet Griselda Blanco:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griselda_Blanco
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Very interesting. I wonder why no one made a Hollywood movie about her life yet. That said, something tells me she was as ugly as a garbage dumpster. Who has pics of her? Either way, they’ll probably make her look better than what she really was.
Believe it or not, during WWII there was a gay spy who helped his country (England) crack Hitler’s code, and wasn’t Laurence of Arabia rumored to being gay? Just because there are very few exceptions to every rule, doesn’t mean they’re the norm.
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Not exactly a hard 10:
In her youthful days:
Two things to keep in mind about La Madrina:
1) She got into the cocaine business because of her husband, who she later had assassinated.
2) She was widely known to be more evil, violent and ruthless than any of her male drug kingpin peers.
Make of those facts what you will.
[CH: Based on appearance alone, I wouldn’t even call her a woman. She looks like a severe dyke, closeted or not.]
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Actually, I’m pretty sure they made a documentary about her…I have a vague memory of watching it one day when I was home sick with the flu. If memory serves, she was indeed as ugly as a bag of assholes.
Agreed that there are exceptions to every rule, but what I found most interesting about her history is that it illustrates a particularly ugly truth that modern feminism likes to elide over: Women can be just as brutal and vicious as men, if not more so. (Puts the lie to the ultrafeminist woo about how if women were in charge, there’d be no wars.)
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@ Spiralina
Unbelievable how she looks, especially later in life. I could have sworn she was a man. She must be one of those hermaphrodites – someone with both male and female sexual characteristics. Here is an example of what such “women” can do:
“Caster Semenya has male sex organs and no womb or ovaries…Semenya, 18, has three times the amount of testosterone that a “normal” female would have.”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/semenya-has-no-womb-or-ovaries/story-e6frexni-1225771672245
@RappaccinisDaugther
“but what I found most interesting about her history is that it illustrates a particularly ugly truth that modern feminism likes to elide over: Women can be just as brutal and vicious as men, if not more so. (Puts the lie to the ultrafeminist woo about how if women were in charge, there’d be no wars.)”
Interesting prospective. However, these women that are in charge are staying there with the help of men though. The whole thing is not run by women – the women are just figureheads. All the protection such women get in order to continue staying in power is facilitated at the consent of men. Without that protection ruthless men would knock them out with the blink of an eye. Think about Elizabeth I, how did she stay in power? Aristocrats protecting her monarchy. During her reign England was most powerful and prosperous. Why? She was not infected with liberalism yet.
Anyway, feminists mean liberal women. They think liberal women will minimize wars. On the contrary, liberal women cause problems that indirectly cause wars. In the modern era, other than Margret Thatcher, who was no feminist or liberal by any stretch, every women in power was/is a scourge. Look at Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, etc… Congresswomen and Senators the same way. Even in foreign countries, the same problems with liberal women exist. Golda Meir in Israel (a liberal), caused the 1973 war with her sheer stupidity. In the UK, the liberal women in the government have the shrillest voices. Gay marriage and Islamic immigration are on a fast track because of them. These feminists who think women in power are going to create a utopia are dreaming in Technicolor, which I thought was appropriate mention for this thread 🙂
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There was a documentary about her: Cocaine Cowboys II.
Oliver Stone’s Savages also used a very similar character (played by Salma Hayek).
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Exactly!
All I know is if they make Bond gay, I’m out of there. lol, I’m sure all who don’t have any “gay guilt,” feel the same.
A film about a woman mobster or spy? At least, if she is hot we can stomach – no matter how uncommon it is.
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Oh no, I meant “straight guilt.”
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by that logic, girls would stomach a hot gay, and guys would stomach it if there is no kiss or sex scenes
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Logic? You don’t have any logic, and that’s why you’re an idiot. Gay actors don’t excite women. That’s why many of them don’t get out of the closet if they play leading men. Why? Because women (and men too) can’t suspend their sense of disbelief when they see a gay actor passionately kissing his female co-star. No matter how good-looking they are, gay men don’t generate gina tingles. Get it? So no, “girls would [not] stomach a hot gay.” Women aren’t as turned on by good looks in men, as they are by power and dominance. Self-declared gay men don’t release vibes of power or dominance over women.
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Beate Zschaepe: Woman accused of 10 racially motivated murders in neo-Nazi trial
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/beate-zschaepe-woman-accused-10-1873030
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woman kill they just more sneaky about it and actually plan it long term rather than a heat of passion thing so easer for them to make it look like an accident don’t get life insurance he he he he
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The screenwriter of Skyfall, John Logan, is an open fag. The director of Skyfall, Sam Mendes, swept the Oscars with his debut movie, American Beauty, which was a sublimated fagfest written by another irrepressible fag, Alan Ball (“Six Feet Under,” “True Blood”).
The latest Bond wasn’t bad at all. But colon-plumbing script-doctors will smear the screenplay with brown somewhere, in this case it was that single gratuitous scene with Bardem. I don’t mind the villains being bent — it’s all of a piece since gay tendencies are a manifestation of evil. But the preposterous idea of turning Bond into a fag icon would have Ian Fleming rising from his grave and smiting Sodomwood himself.
The female M and inane “sexual harassment” importations nearly destroyed the franchise, if quietly, with the last faltering actor. A bisexual Bond would putrefy the formula and kill a multibillion dollar franchise dead … until they hired a new actor a decade later who got back to basics (womanizing, gadgets, one-liners, and death), conveniently forgetting that whole gay episode as “so 2012.” On the other hand, the taste of shit is one thing that lingers and can really take down an icon for good. “But Bond only sucked one dick once!”
Even the fey Matthew Weiner knows not to hint that the supremely fucked-up psychology of Don Draper goes anywhere near the idea of faggotry. The queer and half-queer queens of Broadway wrote straight love stories for a century because they knew that infecting the mis-en-scène with HIV would kill drama faster than Arthur Ashe. Only recently have they begun shoving deviants down their audiences’ throats as main characters, and none of it makes any money, even among the SWPL herds.
Matt
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Matt has a secret…
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You’re getting worse. Your ideology enervates men, saps them slowly from the inside.
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Matt, you make good points about Logan, Mendes, Ball, etc.
And I despise the relentless gay propaganda campaign to have everyone agree that everyone is at least bisexual if not gay.
But maybe there’s another way to view that moment in Skyfall.
I thought perhaps Bond was simply using a ploy of being blase about Bardem’s flirtation, i.e. ‘You can’t get me off-balance by showing sexual interest in me. So you’re gay and you want me. So what. Ho hum.’ To me it looked like Bond was simply saying ‘Your ploy doesn’t rattle me’, about like responding to a threat by saying ‘Yup, you might kill me. And then I’ll be dead. So?’
I wonder what others might think of this possible interpretation.
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True, but the line “What makes you think this is my first time?” is clearly deliberate innuendo to tickle the balls of a certain light-loafered audience segment — while the other 99% is just enduring the scene as the modern penance required today by popular entertainment.
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I remember vaguely thinking “WTF?” at that scene, but it fell from my mind quickly due to the subsequent film action.
Next time I watch it, during one of those interminable Bond fests on TNT or BBBC, I’ll study the scene… hoping it was merely Bond trying to unbalance further his unbalanced opponent, giving the latter delusions of future delights… which might serve as a distraction from the former getting killed immediately… or some such logic.
Alas, (Hollyweird) Babylon!
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Matt has a secret…
Alphie jumps the shark… from merely annoying to terminally insupportable.
Who told YOU you could interject in the conversations of men?
You fairy.
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No it wouldn’t.
Nobody is inspired by beta Asians.
I’d laugh if the new scarface is sub-continent Indian though.
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You clearly haven’t heard of the Triads or Yakuza. Asian-Americans are super beta. But Asians from Asia are patriarchal as fuck.
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There are some badass alpha Asians out there.
One of my social circles has a bunch of Asians in it…some of them slay it with chicks (even white/brown/etc. chicks) and some of them I’m pretty sure have never seen a vagina outside of porn.
The difference between the two types is their alpha attitudes/sub-communications/confidence. It’s plain as day to see in action.
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I’ve met quite a few Asian-American alphas as well and they clean up unbelievably. One thing that I’ve noticed about them in regards to white girls is that they always get the higher quality ones and not the trashy ghetto ones that usually go after black guys. I’m actually very impressed.
But with that said, 99% of the Asian-American dudes I see are betas. If it weren’t for their dorky Asian girlfriends they’d be undoubtedly omegas.
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Daniel Dae Kim could conceivably pull it off.
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^ this dude would be better than DDK
http://www.amazon.com/Bittersweet-Life-Directors-Cut-Edition/dp/B000HAX8ZC
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@Adam
I agree and see the same thing around me. The legit badass alpha player Asians (vs the lame gangsta wannabe ones who talk a big game but can’t actually get pussy and spend their time gang-fighting instead) are rare, but they pull high quality ass. Then on the flipside the rest of them aren’t just beta but like THE lowest most extreme form of beta you could be. It’s painful.
Also looks-wise it’s definitely not the better looking Asians pulling ass, it’s the outgoing social flirty non-sexually-repressed ones. I actually feel bad for Asian guys because a lot of their culture drills extremely beta mindsets/behaviors into them from birth. They usually have a ton of unwiring and baggage to do before they can fix their shit.
I know brown guys who are the same way. Either kill it or beta. I think these two races end up with more polarity because in North America the girls won’t give them the time of day if they can’t step up since being Asian/East Indian is generally considered a handicap, so they’re forced to either go at it full-tilt and own it, or accept their obscurity and lack of sex life…whereas a white guy ranges anywhere from super beta to super alpha in NA because we don’t start from a “deficit”.
As I’ve said before tho, I don’t consider “it’s harder” to be a bad thing. Forces you to work harder and be better than the other guys. It’s all a matter of perspective.
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@YaReally
Once those Asian-American dudes learn to sexually express themselves and put themselves, I actually think their race works to their advantage. No need to peacock to stand out, just be Asian.
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*put themselves out there
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Yes they are hardcore alpha in their own countries…
But when they are in western countries, where they are competing against white and black men who are physically more dominant and imposing, physiologically this has a massive effect on their mentality and their manhood.
This is even made worse when hardly anyone else, other than Asian chicks, find them attractive. This KOs their confidence down to the ground.
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Nah, it’s more complicated than that.
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I’m just gonna go ahead and say you have no idea what you’re talking about LOL.
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Pacino great but still not G Cooper, G Peck, H Bogart–Those guys are lost forever. They weren’t cartoon figures like T Montana.
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A very fair point. +1
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This, on the other hand, makes sense (given her affinity for the pimp hand).
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…speaking of the pimp hand…
Snoop Lion Admits He Was an Actual Pimp
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/snoop-lion-admits-actual-pimp-201500786-us-weekly.html
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Is it not a bit beta how he gets really butthurt-mad right away? It’s almost like the “fuck you!!!” beta response that earns no points on your DMV test, no? He does not stay cool and detached, at all, IMO.
[CH: It’s not a perfect approach, but he gets a lot right. The line itself is a winner.]
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Seems pretty detached to me, if he can go from apparent anger to a pretty cool smirk and line in 10 seconds.
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It’s not butthurt, it’s faux righteous indignation. “I am a political refugee!” Instantly makes HER feel like the jerk. She apologizes right away, seemingly genuine.
Agree & amplify? Although he’s actually disagreeing with her.
Sensitive beta game? He’s obviously a swarthy Latin alpha but he needs to throw a little beta bait out there for her.
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‘She apologizes right away, seemingly genuine.’
Idk about that. She’s smirking when she says it…seems like the subtext is ‘ha, I didn’t know you were such a little bitch.’
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To be nuanced: I actually think this beta-butthurt observation is nearly correct, *except* he gets so angry that it’s literally scary like he might literally punch her in the face, so perhaps that swings it back into alpha territory, if you can follow me?
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Yeah, I can’t quite figure it out….everyone’s right that he does seem to get pissed. But I don’t interpret it as beta, or it doesn’t come off as beta to me. It comes off as ‘watch it bitch or I’ll put you in your place…’ and then he does.
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My, she’s yar.
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what does yar mean?
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yar guess is as good as mine
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lol
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From that same movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HBUgdY9UNw
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“young and rapeworthy”
(Just pitching in, wf’s been slacking lately)
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Yare.
Good try, though.
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Looks like it can be spelled either way. Everybody wins:)
*I’d just like to point out that I knew an obscure movie reference and not only did no one fall in love with me because of it, they also didn’t even know what the heck I was talking about 😉 lol *
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No love, hence, no credit, for the overrated Hepburn in the severely overrated Philadelphia Story.
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http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/05/for-spiders-its-cruel-to-be-kind.html?ref=hp
“For Spiders, It’s Cruel to Be Kind”
“The tipping point occurs when invaders are abundant,” Pruitt says. “Without them, colonies founded by docile individuals would flourish, but with them, they succumb to extinction.” The results from this study suggest something about aggression in general, Pruitt adds. “Species without defense might be driven to extinction by enemies”.
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Spiders and white people have a lot in common.
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Cue the closet faggots/blacks with the “she too SKINNY. need some badonkadonk on dat”.
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Fisher Stevens dated Michelle back in the early 90s. Supposedly he dumped her… to date hotter chicks?
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I saw pics of her, she isn’t that hot. She was about an 8.5 by glamorous-actresses standards. Comparing her to the average woman, she is definitely a 10.
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Pfeiffer was not born a 10. Ever see her high school yearbook pic? She definitely had a nose job by the time she got to Hollywood.
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At that point she was in her mid thirties, though.
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“You say you can’t possibly utter such a gaudy line to a girl? Surprise yourself.”
Heh…one of the lines I never thought I would tell a girl after she exclaimed…”Oh so I’m your second choice.”
“Yup, you are my silver medal.”
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lol Peter Griffin game.
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OT: But fitness test or just general sluttitude?
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/05/09/woman-who-gave-middle-finger-to-joakim-noah-is-the-widow-of-hedge-funder-seth-tobias-who-mysteriously-died-in-his-pool/
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Should’ve let the clip play out like 5 more seconds. As soon as she drops that “blah blah you’d be the last guy I’d ever fuck” line, the scene cuts to Tony driving home as he calmly exclaims to Manny, “That chick he’s with [Elvira]? She like me, man.” Beautiful.
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The eyes, Chico…they never lie.
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” imagining… scenarios… transactions…”
Hannibal Lecter game?
[Ch: See? Now that’s what I’m talking about. Fallin’ in love already.]
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Or…
“You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin’ fingers and say, ‘That’s the bad guy’.”
Or…
“Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie.”
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But power derived from insane wealth takes a lot of work to acquire.
Many fewer men are going to be able to become a multimillionaire than are going to be able to learn game. There are many, many more hot chicks in the world than there are multimillionaires. Most of them have never even met a multimillionaire. Trying to become one of the superrich so you can bang hot chicks just seems to me like a phenomenally stupid misallocation of time and resources.
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well those peeps you look at and think are poor are making more than 10 g’s a month some of em
that’s competition
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can you think of any reason other than that to become a multimillionaire? i mean think how easy things would be without women, we’d all be watching nutshot videos wearing towels and eating chips. and laughing sincerely.
the ratrace is for ass.
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yea I wanted to have money coming in every month so I could chill and play video games and have a ho take care of everything else
all my dreams have been achieved lolzlzozlzolzozloz
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can you think of any reason other than that to become a multimillionaire?
For some men, making money is just their thing. Nothing wrong with that; it’s just not an efficient way of getting women.
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fucking with the stock market was almost better than sex and lasted longer he he he
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The Connery Bond films are the best example of aloof alpha in action. Connery is the embodiment of amused mastery, whether he’s throwing a goon into a volcano or chucking a blonde into the sheets. Also, pay attention to the way he generally disregards the safety of his female counterparts. White Knight he was not.
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Yeah…but I think the difference is that James Bond, without doing anything, already conveys a lot of value vs. Tony Montana who is kind of a runty little cuban guy…so he has to sacrifice some aloofness while at the same time ramping up the overconfidence.
It just seems like the less value you can get away with passively demonstrating — because of being ugly, little, bad style, whatever, etc. — the more of that overconfidence you have to project. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still bad at actually -doing- it (although I do plan on dropping that Montana line this weekend if I can remember and then reporting in)…but it seems like the path is becoming clear.
Like…Kenny Powers would be at the extreme of this.
lol talk about an unshakeable frame
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Yep you’re on the right track. There’s a reason 5’9″ pale ginger nasally voiced skinny-ass balding Tyler doesn’t go to the club and just post-up at the bar waiting for girls to come to him. He has to get in their face and demonstrate his value and force them to notice.
In the end this is better, because the guy who can passively post-up 1) will probably lose his looks/money/etc one day down the road and it will cripple his results because his entire worth is based on his external attributes, and 2) he never has to learn how to deal with challenge so he can get the girl as long as the planets align for him but a guy with game and charisma can easily swoop in and take her off him because he’s used to being passive and can’t handle competing with someone who’s been forced to game actively.
It’s like the guy born rich is likely going to be shittier at managing a financial budget than the guy born poor. He simply hasn’t had to develop that skillset and hopefully he’s never in a situation where he needs to be careful with money because he won’t be able to handle it.
I’m currently gaming in a city where all the guys at the high-end places I go to are better looking than me, richer than me, have expensive cars condos etc, and all think they have amazing pickup skills because they watched Keys to the VIP a few times. And we’re competing for dolled up hotties looking for rich successful guys. So I can’t sit back and be James Bond and expect girls to chase me. I have to get in their face and make them emotionally react to me in a way that these guys are too scared to do.
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If you actually watch the films, the women don’t just flock to Connery’s Bond as he stands by passively. He is almost always the approacher and often has to deflect massive shit tests before the broads hop into his boat. But its the demeanor in which he does so, as if he’d rather be doing something else but for now chatting up this broad will have to do. That’s the difference between amused mastery and the performing monkeys that a lot of “PUAs” tend to come across as.
That being said, I agree that if you are working with physical disadvantages it pays to be more ostentatious. I’m only 5’9 myself but have some good looks to work off, so maybe I’m grading on a curve here.
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Ya, like the progression of James Bond is approach —> pass-shit tests. Like, he really doesn’t have to build much value before the girl is attracted enough to shit test.
The progression for someone else is —> approach —> DHV-a-shitton —> pass shit-tests.
Tony: “what’s your name..where you from…etc.”
Elvira: (uninterested and bored because to her Tony isn’t even equal value)
I guess I like Tony Montana in some ways because it just shows that there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
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See also Casino Royale with D. Craig
“Vesper Lynd: Am I going to have a problem with you, Mr. Bond?
James Bond: No, don’t worry, you’re not my type.
Vesper Lynd: Smart?
James Bond: Single.”
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Yeah but at the end of the movie he’s butthurt.
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I HAVE NO ARMOUR LEFT. You’ve stripped it from me. Whatever is left of me – whatever is left of me – whatever I am – I’m yours.
/Vesper drowns herself
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Reverse diet:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2321812/Tammy-Jung-23-feeds-5000-calories-day-funnel-hope-obese-internet-star.html
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Speaking of 10s, Alice Eve is 31 years old and shows no signs of slamming the Wall. Check her out in the new Star Trek. Jesus that is a hot bitch.
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dat manjaw
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Manjaws start off less pretty than really feminine women, but they do tend to age better.
[CH: There might be something to that. Very small jawed women can put on flabby old lady weight, and the skin droops over the jaw, creating a very matronly, “ball of fat” look. more defined faces with strong bone structure can withstand this droop better. but contrary examples abound. see: angelina “cyborg” jolie. she has a strong jaw that has only looked worse with age. let’s face it: the best thing for women is to just stay between 15 and 25 years old.]
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let’s face it: the best thing for women is to just stay between 15 and 25 years old.]
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nuclear
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Ah, CH, I’m afraid the “Logan’s Run” option isn’t open to us at this time. The bright spot is that if ObamaCare isn’t repealed soon, it may very well be. (Go ahead, call me Sarah Palin, see if I care. Limited resources + unlimited demand = rationing.)
On a lighter note, I’d be interested in getting your perspective on a mini-debate gunslingergregi and I had a few days ago in re: women, aging, and the SMP. Botox: Good or Bad?
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You betcha.
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They get all the fat off them they can b/c of how the lenses screw up the way people look. Hence more manjawish.
And things like Amanda Peet in “Whole 9 Yards” vs. “Something’s Gotta Give”
Even my beloved [10] Carla Gugino is starting down the road CH outlines.
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I experienced the worst neg in the history of horrible negs. My boyfriend made me mad so I got into an argument with him. I told him how I felt and I went on and on and on about my feelings and how he wasn’t doing what a boyfriend is supposed to do. His reply “you sound like an American girl!”
*gasp*
I would never have known that American girls are too mean to men if it weren’t for this site. So when he called me an American girl I was so hurt. I stopped talking and sat staring at him wide-eyed and feeling like I had to make things better with him since he saw me in such a poor light. I’m still shocked! 😦
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It could have been worse: “You sound like a British girl! And you look like one too!”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2305687/Proposal-Expert-Sam-Sheppard-trains-men-propose-boyfriends-SO-disappointing.html
Thank goodness we in the U.S. got that large influx of Germans in the late 1800s. But our women are still pretty bad compared to the rest of the world.
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these ho’s in America treat me pretty good a little pissed the ex weaseled her way into going on my beach vacation though
he he he
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If she’s thin and wears a bikini I wouldn’t complain
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yea i’m only quasi complaining
I was fucking with her
can’t let her head swell too big
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she knows I got a bitch on the last trip so yea she was trying real real hard to latch on for this one
the fear is palpable she knows last time I picked up some ho’s online they called forever he he he
the just having one thing gets boring
the fear of loss is def the way to go
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those pictures are sickening. poor guy. he’s not even bad looking, just needs to lose a few pounds and he could do way better than that fat slob.
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More like Mammothshire amirite
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Mammothshire, Whales
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lol! … I see what you did there
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Her boyfriend missed a golden opportunity to come to his senses and SPRINT the other way.
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“He said he wants to have another go, so now I’m just waiting.”
Ha! If that man has any sense at all, she’s going to keep waiting.
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“If you aren’t doing something that scares you a little every so often, then you aren’t growing as a man”
Magnificent
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he did a lot of things right but he actually married that bitch and treated her like a wife
I want my cake and eat it too
I want it all
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Correctomundo. Tony is a perfect example (that’s even what that storyline in the movie is about) that all the bad-ass status, psycho level dark triad traits and aforementioned tactical game won’t help if you have wrong mindset with the woman.
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how did he treat her like a wife? lol every scene of them ‘married’ is him busting on her or verbally abusing her…..very un-Disney
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pretty sure he stuck with just her even though she couldn’t give him kids
which he obviously wanted
my wife does everything for me I don’t have to verbally abuse her or bust on her to get it why I married her cause she was an addition to my life
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Study shows nice guys, er spiders, finish last
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/05/for-spiders-its-cruel-to-be-kind.html?ref=hp
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You could argue that we as humans don’t have invaders and yet human’s genome has not created a ‘docile’ gene for women.
Is this why we’re at the top of the food chain?
Is there still hope for the betas that one day docile women will exist and they’ll all cuddle happily ever after?
We just recently acquired the ability to coexist peacefully because of the vast technological advancement in the last 200 years.
In theory, to advance the species further we need two things : more technological advancement (which is mostly done by betas) and women to encourage and to actually be attracted to these personality types. The reason for why they are not is because of all the evolutionary reasons the manosphere has presented but objectively all those reasons are for naught in this day and age ( for our species advancement ).
Things like the zeitgeist movement will not work not because the techonology is not there or that because we just can’t truly provide for all of humanity, it is because we as humans have not evolved the behaviours necessary to live or even create that abundance.
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plenty of betas with decent looking woman where I went to visit where the money was
wives were mostly in shape at the kids games
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Bonus points if you utter the line in a thick Cuban accent.
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New York Italian accent is better
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Manjaw, tiny tits, broad shoulders, and body of a 14 yo boy.
Definitely not a 10.
All due respect.
[CH: How about Alizee?]
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Agreed on tiny tits but the rest is PES.
In any case, there’s no such thing as a 10.
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This comment, from your link…..lmao:
“Pointy elbows alert. This has to be some of the dorkiest mental masturbation I’ve ever encountered in the manosphere.
“There’s no such thing as a 10 because it is mathematically impossible and goes against Nordstrom’s perfection principle according to the Modern Physics Society. Meheheheheeh”
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When I was 14 my body didn’t look like that.
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there’s no such thing as a 10.
Maybe not, but Monica Bellucci is a 9.999999999999. There are a few others that I’d describe as high nines.
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Definitely not a 10.
I don’t think many people have argued that Rihanna’s a 10. She’s very attractive though.
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If Belucci isn’t a 10, then nobody is a 10.
As for Rihanna, if you think she’s a ten, either get off the drugs or share them with the rest of us.
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Even at her age (pushing 50 now), Monica Bellucci is still at least a 9.5 in my book. Definitely a 10 in her prime.
10 other girls that were 10s in their prime, IMO:
Sophie Marceau
Audrey Hepburn
Kim Basinger (bit of a “homer” pick here, as we’re from the same town)
Natalie Portman
Teri Hatcher
Ann-Margret
Sherilyn Fenn
Alicia Witt
Alyssa Milano
Tawny Kitaen
Anyone have another 10 they can name?
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in their prime, at their best, these were tens:
Salma Hayek
Rosario Dawson
Halle Berry
Winona Ryder
Lena Olin
Charlotte Lewis
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The black eyes and the bruises are a turn-off for me.
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Bro if Michelle Pfeiffer is a 10 (and she was) then Rnighanna is a NEGATIVE 6,577
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“and body of a 14 yo boy”
is that what BET does to their minds?
you’re a fucking homosexual, you know that?
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Jesus Christ, are you guys in a cult or something?
First, I don’t watch BET.
Second, “body of a 14 yo boy” was a gross exaggeration. Sorry I hurt your feelings.
And finally, preferring Monica Bellucci or Sophia Vergara to Michelle Pfeiffer hardly makes anyone gay.
Chill, man.
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I think Alizee is a 10 if there ever was one. I showed her to my boyfriend a year ago or so because Goddamn she is so fine. I thought he too would be impressed by how hot she was. But after like 5 seconds, he said something to the effect of, “lord, this girl cannot sing” and showed no further interest in watching.
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let’s see…..your boyfriend’s married, has lots of girlfriends, but doesn’t like to fuck any of them. and he’s like an orchestra conductor or something like that?
dude…..YOUR BOYFRIENDS A HOMO.
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girls generally aren’t very good at judging female physical attractiveness to men.
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My 10s:
Dasha astafieva
Olivia Culpo
Adriana Karembau:
How my doin?
[CH: 9, 10, 9.5. My ranking is infallible.]
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Ok. If you say so. But I still love Dasha so.
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look at my youtube videos, i am a perfect 11 ; )
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Adriana Lima:
Not pictured: she was a Catholic virgin who married a supremely ugly alpha Serb. Impossible! says the All Women Are Sluts crowd in unison. Two kids now.
Barbara Palvin:
Emily DiDonato:
Esti Ginzburg:
Greg, IDF alert. Literally. Avert your eyes.
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All 9+, but not Monica.
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Barbara Palvin, Emily DiDonato, Esti Ginzburg: they’re still young.
Jane Birkin, Charlize Theron, Yvonne Strahovski, Eva Green.
Beats them all: Adriana Lima.
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[CH: How about Alizee?]
(looks up on Google Images)
HB8. Case closed.
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Who is a 10 in your mind?
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Hard to say without paparazzi photos, since it’s easy to airbrush a 7 up to a 10. For example, thanks to paparazzi photos, I now know Mila Kunis is a 5.
I would agree with CH about Monica Bellucci in her prime.
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Most young celebrities are tens because they get the +2 or +3 powerboost from untouchability, the byproduct of fame, and the je ne sais quois bonus from what makes them unique enough to be famous in the first place.
There are plenty of tens in everyday life, but we have no common frame of reference. The stacked stylish hostess down at the country club measures up to any girl her age — but you wouldn’t know that because you’ve never seen her.
Can we stop the 2/10 nitpicking and just be okay handing out tens? Rather than getting into pointy-elbow debates over irrelevant imperfections? Rather than vivisecting the minute, idiosyncratic differences between Alizée and Alice Eve and Monica Bellucci and Eva Green?
What effect does context have between sample and control? What fractional “point” difference is there between an English accent and a French one? How about Romanian?
It’s not even about preference. Ten are equally attractive but that attractiveness is always manifested in different (and often mutually excluding) ways.
A ten just means superlative — the general classification of that group of women at the highest possible tier, not their rank order within that tier. Anything more is Zeno’s Paradox nerdnalysis. Debate over fractions or the impossibility of perfection misses the whole point of the scale.
There are blonde tens and brunette tens. There are underage tens and wall-approaching tens. Voluptuous or waifish, famous or unknown, smart or ditzy, chaste or slutty. It is not possible to order beauty at the highest level by rank, much less by quantitative precision. That’s not the nature of the thing. Which is why we are transfixed by it. But only if it isn’t deconstructed.
But we don’t get out our magnifying glasses and laser pointers and slide rules to express our reaction to beauty because we really, really want to express it. We want to acknowledge virtue and tell a friend. What makes beauty beautiful is the same thing that makes us want to express it/share it with others. So we try to fit infinity onto a finite scale and end up haggling over unquantifiable abstractions. Exclaiming that a girl is a ten is the way we say, “There can be other girls with more attractive qualities in different places in different contexts in different moods, but none objectively better as a whole in every circumstance.”
Tens are not mythical creatures. Nor are they untouchable beauty icons setting the world aesthetic standard just by being. We all know what is meant by 10. But WTF is a 9.87 supposed to convey?
Matt
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9.87 = Emily Didonato
10s are interesting. Even 150 years ago, they would have been a really rare event when people had no conditioner, were small pox marked, had no toothpaste etc. You might have seen 1 10 in a decade, who would have been a 16 yr old girl.
But these days you can see them whenever you want up close because of mass media and online video. This must have an effect on the mind somehow.
If you ask men to rank Cindy Crawford, Christy Turlington and Salma Hayek, I am sure they all can, but what does it mean? Can these men “game” the cute looking 22 yr old at the cafe they frequent? Probably not. The idea of evaluating 10s vs 9.87 is a highly compelling but ultimately purposeless exercise for real life purposes.
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Yes. Overexposure is a paradox of the new aesthetics. Our assessment of beauty is heavily dependent on context.
It becomes easier to grasp when you have a healthy understanding of the Beatific Vision, that all things on this plane are mere glimpses of true Beauty Itself. “Eye has not seen, ear has not heard…” But we do get hints and shadows and angles and moments.
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“Most young celebrities are tens because they get the +2 or +3 powerboost from untouchability, the byproduct of fame, and the je ne sais quois bonus from what makes them unique enough to be famous in the first place.”
All these are true, but celebs are also treated to the best health and beauty care available. Things that are not easily accessible to the average woman, unless she is aware of such improvements and has the funds to spend on them. That’s why I have two standards – one for celebrities and one for regular people. People have to be evaluated within the context of their world, otherwise it’s an unfair contest.
“There are blonde tens and brunette tens. There are underage tens and wall-approaching tens. Voluptuous or waifish, famous or unknown, smart or ditzy, chaste or slutty.”
Yes, you have to make distinctions, shows intelligence. Piling it all up in one mound, shows mental indolence.
“But WTF is a 9.87 supposed to convey?”
Some slight imperfection. More accurately, the inability of the judge to magnanimously render a 10, because it feels better to take the beauty down a peg or two, or it’s just so hard not to be envious.
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“Slight imperfections” indicate a girl’s singularity which contributes to beauty..
Right. And so you get just weird, stupid, nerdly conclusions like: if you say that tens are possible you are pedestalizing women.
If I say the tiramisu is as good as any I’ve tasted, am I pedestalizing desserts? Should I say it’s a 9.87 just in case there’s a better one out there? Autistic hair splitting. False precision over a faulty theory of perfection.
YouTube/link heavy posts locked in moderation for the weekend.
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The problem, as argued in the RoK article, is that labelling a woman a 10 is pedestalisation.
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Not if you have your shit together. A man can acknowledge beauty without being controlled by it. Isn’t that what much of this site is about?
That article was a sophisticated example “pointy elbows syndrome.” It was about hypothetical perfection in the mind and adjusting the scale to include impossibilities rather than expounding anything practical. Theoretical abstractions over actual life as lived.
Matt
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I know I’m going to catch heat from this but this is my personal 10:
Maja Ivarsson from the Sounds
http://ilovemajaivarsson.tumblr.com/image/11151688823
http://lifewithoutandy.com/galleries/2010-2011/winter/we_love_the_sounds/23
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Only Bob Mitchum could pull this off:
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Damp barstool @ 1:40.
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When asked by Dick Cavett what the secret to a 30 year marriage is, Mitchum replied, “Deviousness.” The audience erupted in laughter and applause.
In terms of being alpha, no one comes close.
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Listened to it 10 times to get:
“I’m gonna leave you just one hour to get rid of your friends.”
Only Bob Mitchum in a 60’s movie could pull that off I think. Not tryin’ to hate. He’s got the swagger, but it seems written by someone who was fantasizing about a pick-up rather than living it.
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To be fair, Mitchum is playing Max Cady, a psychopathic rapist who doesn’t need game. He just takes what we wants. The scene is really about this particular woman, and her fascination with depravity, and Cady’s sixth sense about her.
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He’s also being escorted out of the bar by police. If you just walk out of the bar alone and say that, then no. Not gonna work.
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@Ics
Ok, that makes sense. Even in that context I’d put a hundred on it just ramping her buying temp and for her to bang the guy she’s with. But as a psycho he may just be showing off for the cops too. Or using their presence to negate a fight with her guy. I gotta see the movie.
@Mitch Cumstein
I’m not gonna try the police escort in a club, but a lounge… just maybe.
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Seeing as how this came out in 1962, the same year as the first Bond movie, I bet Sean Connery could have pulled it off too. But Mitchum had a strong pimp hand, no doubt about it.
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Favorite Tony Montana Quote: “There’s only one thing in this world that gives orders….balls.”
So true.
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And the boner doesn’t lie.
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[CH: How about Alizee?]
Vive la France! She has a better body, but Michelle is more facially beautiful, even with the manjaw. I would bang them both.
http://www.eftekasat.net/details.php?image_id=205364
Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m gonna find myself a quiet place to unload my tepid sepid.
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Bitch has a seven head in that pic.
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Out come the magnifying glasses and slide rules.
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is her right arm really a man arm and longer than the left or is that optical illusion
hahahhhahaha
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Don’t forget Rhett Butler gaming Scarlett O’Hara in Gone With the Wind. Amused mastery, check. Grace under pressure, check. Cocky humor, dismissive entitlement , daring, impervious self regard, self confidence, immunity to beauty, check, check, check, check, check and check. The embodiment of Alpha.
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Oh yes indeed!
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Thanks for the link. I missed the earlier post on Gone With the Wind.There’s a reason why women of a certain age love that movie. And of course Rhett was a woman’s creation.
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Spot on, and underappreciated. Need to re-read that one. Rhett took the #1 socialite at her prime, drove her nuts, and she loved him for it.
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Another relevant classic is The Taming of the Shrew. I recommend the BBC version with John Cleese as Petruchio.
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In other news, I hope I never have a daughter.
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“This is your life as a beta.” Fucking hardcore. And written by a woman! (via @rooshv ) motivationalhierarchy.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/thi… 22 minutes ago ”””””
they talk about Marylyn Monroe but she had cankles for real
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makes me feel good though I done better than scarface or that beta maybe i’m too greedy
i’ll agree he has some good lines I just don’t think he achieved his potential in line with everything else in the overall picture
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Bitch kills husband due to fair custody ruling. SMH.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/national/ex-teacher-in-nj-pleads-guilty-to-ex-husbands-2010-murder-says-father-killed-him/2013/05/09/9fcffd9a-b8bf-11e2-b568-6917f6ac6d9d_story.html
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In other news…more Hamsterization explained. Gawd izz it awful to live when male sexuality is repressed
http://www.cafemom.com/group/115189/forums/read/16228830/I_was_raped_and_I_kind_of_liked_it_Long_read
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Wow! So they confess and confess, eh?
Thwackie, you need to read this.
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“I was raped and I kind of liked it.” Bad headline. She loved it and to this day cannot stop thinking about it, despite her reservations, which she was pleased to have torn away from her forcibly. She didn’t “kind of like” the bruises on her thighs. She was sad that they faded!
These kind of confessions are only news to ugly/old women who have never been truly fucked. Domination is that scary place under the stairs in the basement of their id which they never visited. They fear the idea of it, fear even peering into it, tiptoeing around it more than understanding what it actually is.
Therefore these kind of confessions must be repressed violently or censored with extreme prejudice. All the more a swing in emotions when they finally submit.
Matt
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@Heartiste Speaking of azzholes, do you think game-aware men are destined to reclaim the word creep? An Amanjaw article on Slate right before Sanford won, amounted to “Creepy creepy creepy he’s creepy!” We’ve talked a good deal about what that word really means, now that it’s applied to men too dweeby to have any hope of being perceived as dangerous. My theory now is it’s the generalized gender hate word, same as n!gger and f@ggot. Liberals respond that it couldn’t be equivalent because white het men are privileged, and my response is in the SMP, women ARE usually the privileged. It’s the female rub your superior status in his face word. Like other such words, eventually the target responds by embracing it. The only requirement to be a creep is be a sexual and forward man, so I’ll be one.
I think I’m going to field test this. (When I get a chance. Sh!t’s been crazy at work.)
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I tell girls I’m creepy all the time. I can’t imagine taking offense to it.
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I mightve known. Note to self, if a girl pulls that word out on me, respond same as I do to asshole: Why thank you. (For all that, it doesn’t happen often though.)
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Use good ol’ Agree & Amplify.
her: “where are your friends?”
me: “I don’t have any. I’m here alone like a creeper, leering at girls with my old creepy eyes. You shouldn’t even be talking to me or I’ll end up trying to have sex with you and you’ll end up regretting it in the morning because it’ll only last 30 seconds since I have a tiny penis.”
her: “:O :O omg who ARE you????”
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her: “(dancing in front of me) why aren’t you dancing?”
me: “I prefer to just lean over the edge of the dance floor like a creepy old man at a strip club. Now dance for me so I can stare at your bum with my creepy eyes.”
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her: “don’t say that, that’s creepy!!”
me: “shit THAT’S not creepy. Creepy would be if I told you I was going to rub one out tonight while I think of you. Just kidding, I’ll rub two out. Technically that’s a compliment. See? Now the shit I said before doesn’t seem so bad, does it?”
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her: “my friend says you’re creepy.”
me: “your friend is right. You shouldn’t even be talking to me or I’ll lure you into my windowless white van later by telling you I have candy in it, so I can take advantage of you. Don’t worry, it’ll all be over in 30 seconds. You won’t even remember it once all the roofies kick in.”
I just riff off it and take it to a ridiculous place. I do this all with a deadpan expression and straight voice because I have a Ryan Reynolds vibe of “I think he’s being sarcastic, but I’m not sure if he’s just fucking with me or not…?” and I’ve done it enough to know that it makes them curious/attracted and diffuses the insult, so I 100% have no fear of legitimately creeping them out. That’s not an outcome that can happen, in my mind.
They freeze up because they don’t expect me to steamroll them like that so they aren’t prepared. They were expecting a defensive “N-no I’m not, why am I creepy?? I’m not, I swear!!” reaction.
You might say “but YaReally, you’re putting in too much effort…the alpha thing to do would be to just stare at her and raise an eyebrow until she begs for forgiveness and sucks your cock!”
And that strategy can totally work, I’ve used it when I’m not in a chatty mood. But personally I view pickup as a way of demonstrating your personality and your congruence to it. So while raising an eyebrow might shut her up, when I riff a bit I’m setting extremely sexual frames about taking advantage of her, masturbating to her, using her for sex in a van (rape fantasies), talking about my penis, etc.
A raised eyebrow shuts her up, but I look at it as responding with a jab VS my method which is to compact a bunch of principles (future projection, innuendo, roleplay, non-judgement, etc) into one massive counter-punch knockout.
…also don’t do any of this if you’re legitimately creepy lol I know I’m not creepy because I have thousands of reference experiences of being awesome and people liking me when they meet me and girls liking me, so I know if a girl says it it’s just a shit-test.
If you’re just starting out, it’s possible that you ARE legitimately creepy, in which case you’ll have to fix that first. Field experience will tell you whether you’re creepy or not…if you get called it and you legitimately can’t figure out, in analyzing your Field Reports, where you did something creepy, and you’ve worked on your grooming style etc, then you’re probably not actually creepy. If you get called it a lot and you’re still wearing shit clothes or have shit body language or are trying to go direct when you don’t really understand basic game or you’re brainwashed by RSD to “not give a fuck what anyone thinks” without understanding what that actually means, then you’re probably creepy.
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Nice.
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If you can’t type out the word “faggot” or “nigger” without changing a letter, you may need testosterone replacement therapy. Talk to your doctor about treatment.
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You’re among friends. You can say faggot and nigger.
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“Impervious self-regard”? Not imo. Looks to me like her insults about “just got of the banana-boat” landed on him pretty hard and he got steamed…
…maybe a hot-blooded latino guy gets a pass on this though since a bit of a temper is expected from them.
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Crossing the media boundary, one of the ultimate depictions of Alpha Male is Howard Roarke, the hero of Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead”. Roarke’s gaming and seduction of the bored, rich, beautiful Dominique Francon is one of the most brutal things ever written. Francon, who has spent her life manipulating and making fools of men, is utterly dominated by Roake, from the second they meet.
Rand’s Objectivist philosophy glorifies the Alpha Male to Godhood and in her writing understands the Game dynamic perfectly. I would love to hear GBFM’s take on Rand. If you have not read her stuff, treat yourself, especially if you are new to the Red Pill.
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…and read the book, do not watch the movie. Not nearly the same animal.
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if ayn rand
was so for freedom
and liberty for all
why was she pro abortion?
do the unborn have no rights?
what day does one receive rights
from God?
oh wait
ayn rand doesn’t believe in God
unlike Jefferson, Homer, Einstein, Mises, Moses, and Jesus
ayn rand is a fairy tale for fanboyz
man up and read HOMER
long before Atlas Shrugged
Achilles quit the greek army
when he was denied his just reward
Achilles went Galt, long before Galt
but too Achilles returned for Honor
to Honor the death of a friend
and avenge him
rand is OK for fifth grade, but
in sixth grade
read Homer Virgil Dante Moses Mises JEsus
lzozzolozozz
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Vintage game: The Servant (1963) rich bitch’s slut shield crashes when she realizes the servant is the house alpha and her limp-dick fiance has been relegated to omega status:
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Ah the car scene is cut out at the end of the clip. After she tells him she wouldn’t fuck him on a desert island if she was desperate, in the car ride home he says: ‘that chick, she liked me.’ Al Pacino was a great actor
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He die or something?
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No he’s alive, I didn’t mean that. He’s just not as great as he used to be. The Godfather (1972) was really the peak of his career, in fact, I would say it was the pinnacle of film history
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One of the greatest of all time for sure.
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For the guys asking “but he got mad at the banana boat thing!!” Alphas don’t all have “no emotion” like the James Bond fantasy. They’re often extremely passionate/emotional about things that are important to them. It’s part of what pushes the girl through an emotional rollercoaster around them. It’s just that those things that are important to them are important to THEM…they’re not “this girl likes Justin beiber so now he’s important to me too so hopefully she likes me!!” This is why you can talk about world of Warcraft and shit with girls and get attraction. Tyler talks about nutrition and Eckhart Tolle with girls. Passion is good.
Now the nuance there is that if you get banana boat butthurt and storm off calling her a lesbian like the guy in the first clip, you’re insecure and shitty. She found a weak point and dug in it and it caved your paper tiger confidence. But if you can get butthurt but use it to keep going unphased believing you WILL turn things around, that’s badass and implies good things about you. Ya Tony gets butt-hurt, but it’s more about what he does afterward that’s important.
Guys picture pickup as being this flawless smooth James Bond thing where every response is perfect and flawless and the girl doesn’t shit-test them at all and everything they say hits perfectly. The reality is pickup is messy and chaotic and you’ll fuck up a bunch…but how you handle fucking up and understanding that it’s never “over” is the important part.
On another note: Tony is basically doing the thing I’ve describe that I do where he says something so offensive and impossible to ignore that she can’t NOT respond to it. She HAS to give him her attention and she won’t have a prepared response to it because he’s saying something that throws her off her balance and she instinctively shit-tests him, which allows him to pass her shit-test (“NOW you’re talking to me”), which builds attraction.
Julien from RSD runs this style of game and dissects it in his videos a bunch if you want to mess with the nuances of it. The pro is that it builds attraction fast, the con is that it’s a surface-level emotional attraction and ideally for a solid “she’ll come back for seconds” hookup you’d want to have some comfort in there but switching gears to comfort can kill that rollercoaster ride so it can be tricky.
Anyway here’s a dude from Keys to the VIP running ballsy direct passionate Italian dude game that’s similar to Tony:
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Unfazed.
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James Bond gets shit-tested all the time in the films. Shit, sometimes the bitches are outright trying to kill him. Just watch the 2006 Casino Royale, Bond has to navigate a sea of shit tests before Vesper falls for him. Or Goldfinger, where he doesn’t hit that Pussy Galore until after roughing her up in a barn. Doesn’t lessen your point any, but the “Bond fantasy” is actually a great seminar on how to deflect nuclear shit tests.
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this is very good shit, ya. one of the things i try to tell my friends who don’t know “game” is that you’ve got to completely overhaul the way you think about yourself and the world before you’re going to “get” girls. unfortunately, many dudes (including, seemingly, most of the dudes here) think that game is what feminists claim it is: a trick, a ploy, a method to convince girls to sleep with you. this should be as far away from your frame as possible.
i am thoroughly convinced that i am superior to everyone around me and my life reflects that reality. furthermore, i am never “on” or “off” when it comes to “game.” this isn’t a video game or a paint-by-numbers deal. i don’t realize “oh, here is an opportunity to practice game!” if you talk the talk, well then, as they say, walk around like an entitled, arrogant asshole who makes everyone around you laugh and have fun ALL THE TIME.
point being, i get mad all the time. i act outrageous. i insult people. i make crude sexual jokes. i also tell funny stories and love to hold court. regardless of how i act, i never apologize for any of it and never back down. PEOPLE (which, despite what many nerds may suggest, includes womenfolk) are just astounded when they come across someone that is so clearly having a great time not playing by society’s dumb rules. they want to do that too, but they’re too afraid. girls, in particular, are looking for someone to come into their lives and save them from tedium. BE THAT MAN. 🙂
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Field experience talkin’ right here. Good stuff. I agree 100%.
“i am thoroughly convinced that i am superior to everyone around me and my life reflects that reality”
yep. This is why I don’t worry about my girls cheating on me. They may bail on our hooking up to pursue a guy who’s offering commitment/monogamy because they know I won’t give them that, but when they’re fucking me they don’t WANT to fuck other guys because in my mind (and thus theirs, since “what you feel, she feels”) I’m better than every other guy she could meet.
“furthermore, i am never “on” or “off” when it comes to “game.” this isn’t a video game or a paint-by-numbers deal.”
Yep. To paraphrase Fight Club: this is not a seminar. It’s not a weekend retreat. This is your life.
“someone that is so clearly having a great time not playing by society’s dumb rules. they want to do that too, but they’re too afraid. girls, in particular, are looking for someone to come into their lives and save them from tedium.”
This. Big time. Again I refer to this:
The dancing guy is an extreme example, but the same principle applies on in much smaller scale situations, like unapologetically turning the conversation sexual with a girl who seems like the innocent Good Girl type, but who opens up and unleashes her sexual side because you’ve set the precedent that “this is what we’re doing now, we’re being sexual. It’s okay, I won’t judge you. Join me, let’s see the REAL you.”
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“The dancing guy is an extreme example, but the same principle applies on in much smaller scale situations,”
In other words, be a clown? 😀
Seriously, I get what you’re trying to say, but it doesn’t always work this way. It depends; sometimes people join you and sometimes they don’t. Generally, the dumber your movement and the more mistaken you are, the more people join you – Marxism, Nazism, feminism, liberalism, etc….it’s too easy to brainwash, incite to violence, preach in favor of stupid and debouched behavior, and misinform…..so I’m not surprised that you can manipulate your bar sluts with clownishness, fast talking, and sexual innuendo. Women are easily lead, remember?
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lily, i know you are well-intentioned, but, well… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks072waMayk
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@lily.
but, seriously, you’re completely wrong. just because you keep insisting that this shit only works on barsluts doesn’t make it true. please stop saying this.
let me put this in terms that you can understand. how educated are you, lily? what is your profession? i’ve made several references to my education and my profession. in addition to those things, i am a member of an invite-only, elite, oldboys club (no liberals or coloreds allowed!). i am all the shit that rich, white people want to be.
but here’s the most important point about all that bragging – i know my life wouldn’t change in the slightest re: my interactions with women if i lost all the BULLSHIT that i have accumulated. why? well, i figured out a long time ago that women don’t give a fuck about my education, my job, my club, or any of that other shit. they just want to feel alive and i’m a firebreathinglifedragon. indeed, i don’t even bring that shit up when i meet women. i don’t need to. my magnetic personality and charm is all they need, babe.
furthermore, the shit that i do works on barsluts, it works on “fancy” women, and every other kind of woman. fat, thin, ugly, beautiful, average, etc. in fact, you know what else? my approach maybe works moreso on fancy women because they are bored as fuck as their husbands/boyfriends are exceptional lame.
did you even read what YR and I wrote? this isn’t about an act. this is about actually becoming/being the man. the master of of the universe. that isn’t being a clown. that is being a boss.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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An important point, maybe, but not even close to “the most important point.” You brag because you’re SURE of a hypothetical? Doesn’t make sense even on the surface.
You want your reputation (Aristotle’s “ethos“) to do all the work for you rather than bothering to make an argument. That’s why people like you and YaReally casually drop hints about how awesome you are. And maybe you are indeed. But none of your claims will prove it here.
Rather, the best proof of your bona fides is how you conduct yourself, showing you can “talk the talk” in ways that those who “walk the walk” normally do, without affect. In fact, the more you declare how accomplished you are, the more suspect you become: men who visit the endzone regularly don’t do touchdown dances, they don’t even point to the score board. They hand the ref the ball and let the crowd’s roar do all the bragging for him.
And yet you need to bring it up here. Think on that.
Then why are you slumming for barsluts with their panties already showing? Let’s not talk about the low hanging fruit, Freemason stud. Let’s talk about the “fancy women.” Who cares what makes them the same? Let’s talk about what makes them different.
The problem with your idea that all women are the same isn’t the fact that, yes, deep down there is a slut inside every woman, and the tighter the social corset, the more she yearns to let it out. The problem is that you have a hammer and therefore think every problem is a nail.
Some women want to be bludgeoned, yes, and that works. But others need to be disrobed thread by thread, a sharp blade slowly along the seam, button pop, button pop … button pop. The most feminine women are reticent, they plead with their eyes while grace commands every other part of them to be defensive. Because this is what they are thinking:
It requires more precision to get the best out of this kind of woman: i.e., the one with a conscience. Not because there is no other way into their panties but because a certain sophisticated method makes them arrive more powerfully to la petite mort. For the girl “in touch” with her inner-slut, there is no struggle, no challenge, and therefore no frisson of transgression. And therefore no sublime reward.
Chasing whores isn’t about the whore. It’s about the character of the whore finder. The moral dumpster diver. The slothful B-game booty trawler.
So what do you got on that subject? Who cares how sluts tick? Tell me about the tough cases that have to go to trial, not the summary judgments and plea bargains.
Matt
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@Matt
“Rather, the best proof of your bona fides is how you conduct yourself”
Well I could post pics/vids of girls sucking my dick, but it violates my ethical boundaries, and we all know you’d just rather the girl was cropped out of the pic so you could rub one out to my throbbing man-meat anyway.
“Then why are you slumming for barsluts with their panties already showing?”
Because they look like this, duh:
http://goo.gl/Inr9C
A girl will look the hottest in her life on 1) her wedding day, and 2) a night out at the club.
“Let’s not talk about the low hanging fruit”
You couldn’t even approach them, let alone attract them, let alone handle all the obstacles that would prevent you from taking them home, let alone get through all their ASD/LMR, let alone have them come back for seconds. When you say things like this, like anyone can just walk into a club, pull some smokin’ hottie away from her friends and take her home because she’s “low hanging fruit”, you’re just showing that you are so far removed from going out and being around hot girls that you can’t even comprehend what doing it entails. You’re relying on a cartoon stereotype of how it works because you have no concept of how it really works.
And anyone who goes out regularly can tell from how you write. Don’t lecture guys who go out, it makes us embarrassed for you. I’m sure way back in your youth you got hammered and “totally scored bro” with some average-at-best puking-in-the-bathroom slutty 5 at a bar, but we’re aiming for higher than that.
“But others need to be disrobed thread by thread, a sharp blade slowly along the seam, button pop, button pop … button pop. The most feminine women are reticent, they plead with their eyes while grace commands every other part of them to be defensive.”
No shit. We can move slow when we need to. Your problem is you read a couple articles on game, probably some RSD shit that encourages guys to go up and be direct, so your vision of what we look like is, again, a cartoon stereotype. You picture us just running up with our pants down dick-slapping drunk girls until a slutty one sucks us off in the bathroom.
You are so far removed from having any kind of experience at pickup that you can’t comprehend how we can adapt our game to the girl. You’re like a guy who thinks race-car drivers all just floor the gas the entire race because going fast = winning. There are so many nuances going on that a guy who’s never driven a race-car simply can’t wrap his limited mind around.
Again, all you do is show how irrelevant you are when you lecture about this stuff. Just quit giving advice in this area. It’s brutal.
“Tell me about the tough cases that have to go to trial, not the summary judgments and plea bargains.”
Blah blah blah. We deal with that shit all the time. We just don’t talk about it because any guy who goes out regularly collects enough experience with those situations to not need us to harp on it. Most of those cases that “go to trial” go to trail for you because you aren’t attractive to women (except for your eHarem on here lol) and don’t have any game in real life.
You are basically saying “ya, sure, you understand how to drive a Formula 1 car, you just floor the gas the whole way it’s easy anyone can do THAT, but let’s see you drive a run-down Volkswagon down a city street with traffic laws and other cars…now THAT’S a real challenge that you simpletons could never handle.” Like, you don’t even have enough experience to understand how retarded your arguments sound. It’s fascinating in a way, but sad too, like watching a homeless guy ranting on a street corner about the evils of money.
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@matt.
“And yet you need to bring it up here. Think on that.” Unlike you, I’m not here to eflirt.
“Then why are you slumming for barsluts with their panties already showing? Let’s not talk about the low hanging fruit, Freemason stud” I’m not. Why do you persist in not understanding this point? and, no, i’m not a freemason. lol. just in case you weren’t aware, matt, it isn’t the late 1700s. i know you want it to be, but it isn’t.
Anyway, your whole stupid comment is premised on the assumption that I only date or fuck bar sluts. Even though that is completely false, I know that you’ve got too much invested in the theory that you and your groupies are the most worthy and that you will get the good chicks while YR and I slum for sluts. I know you won’t change your mind. That’s fine. Stay where you are. But for everyone else reading this: despite what Matt King says, I have been blessed to date wonderful, feminine creatures of all sorts and backgrounds. Very few of them have been “sluts” by any definition. You can probably achieve the same thing, but you’ve got to stop thinking like Matt does.
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@YR. i don’t think matt is actually that old. i imagine that matt is probably about 25 years old. he was very possibly homeschooled. i doubt that he had any traditional higher education. he may have spent a small amount of time in a community college, but would have very likely found his fellow classmates to be painfully beneath him. actually, that last point is what really bothers him the most. matt literally has grandiose delusions. he is convinced that he is a superior specimen, but the world (and women) ignore him. BUT ONLY FOR NOW! because he is a student of history (and particularly) of the “great men” like hitler, churchill, and various philosophers, he holds onto the sincere belief that he will someday find himself leading a nation.
it is quite hilarious, actually, when he claims that women simply throw themselves at him because of the way he is (which also explains why he cannot, at all, describe HOW to interact with women… you just do it, duh!).
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Zzzz. Wake me up when you’ve got something more than the least verifiable and dumbest possible speculations. And fantasizing so much in the second person is more than just creepy-gay and fixated, it’s indicative of personal cover-up.
I mean, aren’t you sick of this? I am. What makes you so obsessed with correcting me? Even now after all this time?
Am I ruining your cred? Is anybody even listening to me? Why are you so bent out of shape about what I say? If you were a chick I’d think you were nursing a crush; that’s what this kind of behavior indicates.
You advise men to act cool and aloof, but you can’t even manage to do it yourself in a comment section. (And no, the LOLs don’t conceal anxiety with a fake chill vibe.)
So what’s the real deal, son? I’ll give you the unearned and unreciprocated honor of withholding my speculation. I’m not contradicting you at all. What makes you think I am? Why do I in particular have to be exiled from your online fantasia? Why do you get in these extended exchanges with me but not with, say, the racists or even the feminists?
Here is a hint: you can’t “AMOG” somebody over the internet, try try try though you might. That’s not a limitation on you, it’s a limitation built into the medium. So you can just relax and talk about whatever you want to talk about. Like I’m doing. Over here alone in the corner. I’m the wallflower envious at all your attention and mastery. I’m the jealous poseur making things up so I can dream of a better life, like the one you lead.
I have no problem with you judging me unworthy and thinking I’m a loser. Let me admit I am a loser: let me agree with you! Can you accept my agreement? Will it help you relax? If not there’s adderall. Or scotch. Or Tylenol PM.
Matt
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@yeahokcool
My only real issue with Matt is that I know the majority of newbies are looking for actual help when they Google for sites like this, but they haven’t been out enough to gain enough reference experiences to understand how blatantly full of shit he is. And Matt talks a big game like he’s an authority figure because he believes his own bullshit and I assume he’s been around the Manosphere with no one calling him out on it for years (because until recently no one commenting really went out regularly enough to be able to call him out on it).
So I worry that newbies will go “well this guy certainly seems sure of himself!” because they have weak frames compared to Matt’s delusions, and end up not working on improving their lives, or assuming that all the “advanced concepts” (according to Matt lol) are too far beyond their abilities to grasp and wind up getting discouraged and giving up…not realizing that this stuff is all pretty simple as long as you go out and apply it regularly. Look how much progress Scray has made in just a few months.
That’s why I don’t care when Matt rants about random shit that isn’t game related…but when he goes off about actual pickup advice or laughably lectures the guys who DO go out, it’s like dude, shhh, you’re just going to fuck guys up, and now I’m going to have to call you out on it, yet again, so that guys reading your shit don’t actually give you any kind of authority on a subject you don’t know anything about.
Matt can go jack off onto his own face in a public park if he wants, I don’t care, that’s not hurting anyone. But there are guys lurking on this blog who are hoping to fix their lives. I just don’t think it’s cool of Matt to actively fuck them up for the sake of stroking his own massive ego.
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@matt. lol like i’m picking on you. poor widdle matt. with your hilarious overdone vocabulary, you attempt to intimidate every single person on this message board who doesn’t fall in line behind your “genius.” you throw temper tantrums when you don’t get sufficient support from your fans (e.g., “WHERE IS GREG??? HE WOULD DICE YOU UP WITH HIS MOST WITTY RAPIER!”)
i talk shit about you and to you because you aren’t just some dude who is wrong as fuck, but is here trying to improve himself. no, you’re far worse than that. you’re a self-styled “philosopher king” handing out pearls of wisdom that in actuality are handfuls of sand mixed with human feces. you are a pretender to every throne that there is. i want to underline every single moronic that you write so that i can point out time and time again to those who are here to learn WHAT NOT TO DO/HOW NOT TO BE. sorry to disappoint, but this show ain’t even close to half-over.
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@YR. i should have waited a few minutes before posting again. i more or less just mirrored your concerns about matt. i would apologize, but, really, it is a point that bears repeating.
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Great. Let’s talk about them then. Rather than yet another inane amateur psychoanalysis explaining why I “probably” am this or why I “probably” do that. You can’t even decide on a rough age range for me.
Let’s stop bragging about how awesome you are, about how hard it is to do what you do, and about how pathetic I am for being an omega virgin. Let me agree with you so we can proceed to dialectic.
Are all women easy or are they not? Are some types of women harder than others? Or are you claiming to be so great that you make it look easy? Do we have to put in a lot of work to get the hottest women — seminars, videos, lengthy field reports and advice exchanged on the internet — or are all girls sluts essentially begging for it at the drop of an alpha wink?
But no. You really really want to explain something to me for some reason, about how things really really are. I take you guys at your word. What would I care if you’re a bunch of fabulists? As long as you demonstrate you know what you’re talking about. I couldn’t care less where the truth comes from.
Matt
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YaReally:
And yeahokcool:i want to underline every single moronic that you write so that i can point out time and time again to those who are here to learn WHAT NOT TO DO/HOW NOT TO BE.Your concern for newbies being led astray is touching, but this doesn’t pass the laugh test. (The “lol” test?)
No, you both think you know who I am, what my angle is, and what I’m getting at. And when I claim otherwise — as we can only do in this forum — you keep going after the fantasy.
You think some commentary lurker can do serious psychological harm to the precious “newbies looking for actual help”? You think some basement loser is putting at risk the most important and most vulnerable of the readership, those rookies “who are here to learn”? Am I doing damage with all my “hilarious overdone vocabulary” and persistent “temper tantrums”? Can I really be so threatening? How can so obvious a self-parody be so dangerous, or conversely, how could your students be so thickheaded? They might learn more if you stopped condescending to them, assuming their fragility.
Do the readers turn racist when they read the racist commentary too? Do you have to sigh and “call [the racists] out on it, yet again, so that guys reading [their] shit don’t actually give [them] any kind of authority”?
You mean to say what really drives you is not a desire to show me up so much as it is to protect the innocents who accidentally stumble over my words 200 comments deep in an expired blog post?
Your thin veil isn’t covering much up, dudebros.
No, you think you know something, and it’s a cathartic exercise to hiss and mock those who call you to account. But rather than giving an account — a defense for why you think a certain way — you assume it suffices to assert over and over again how great you are and how illegitimate the critic is. All while ignoring the criticism.
Which is fine with me, by the way. You don’t have to reply to the substance. But your refusal to address substance indicates an inability.
Why do I reply to you? Because I want those few men who can see through your self-deceiving, little-boy braggadocio and playground shtick to know forums like these might still be a place for the like-minded to gather, despite the roar of white noise (“paging GBFM”). You don’t have to worry so much, you’re winning by preponderance, and barring a turnaround, I’ll be exiting shortly.
“Ain’t even close to half-over”? I wish. We’re down to the two-minute warning.
Matt
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lol when you post, all you do is reinforce the wisdom that men should never listen to women when it comes to attraction/seduction.
Why are you here again?
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You have to stop taking “leadership” tips from lisping ponces on YouTube. Churchill* didn’t rally the defense of Britain by eating shrooms and tripping his balls off at a folk concert.
Matt
* Winston Churchill was Prime Minister of Britain during World War II, a massive international conflict during the 20th century which began in Europe. The Prime Minister is the chief political leader in a parliamentary system.
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Matt, surely you don’t think that YR is suggesting that the dancing guy is a paragon of masculinity and leadership. It is an example of how, on a micro level, people come to be led by someone who sticks to his convictions. A teaching tool, if you will. And a very good one at that.
Perhaps I should condescendingly include the definition of “example” hereto for your perusal. But, I’d rather not get down in the mud with you, so I won’t. You can easily find it if you search google.
Anywy, let’s not forget that the venerable Churchill was also, at least, half-a-fag. Given your rant above about gays thrusting their ideology “down our throats,” well, perhaps you should be more circumspect about your examples of masculinity and leadership.
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He is “stick[ing] to his convictions” because he’s high as a satellite. The Churchill reference was to remind you there is more to leadership than liquid courage. “Surely” YR was“suggesting that the dancing guy is a paragon of … leadership,” which is why he called it an “extreme example.” As to his “masculinity,” his idea of it is twisted by metrosexuality. Neither of you have demonstrated familiarity with the concept enough to speak intelligently on the subject. You do not recognize how feminism controls your basic understanding of things on the molecular level.
By the way, you know who is obsessed with proving Lincoln, Shakespeare, and Churchill were peter puffers? Peter puffers. Regarding the celebration manliness as a sign that a man wants to sexually submit to manliness = the faggot deconstruction of culture.
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a worthless comment that existed only to imply i am a closet homosexual. whatever, bro. it must be hard feeling like your obvious genius is so under-appreciated by us plebs.
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The paragraph on messing up and fighting through that hit home. Thanks for that. I have trouble maintaining composure when I misstep because I’m trying too hard to be a perfectionist. A lot of that comes from too many of the talented guys here portraying things like they never mess anything up – hell maybe some of them don’t – but it makes me panic when I do thinking I’ve definitely blown it, and looking back I’m positive I’ve bailed on a couple girls who I really still had a chance with.
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“A lot of that comes from too many of the talented guys here portraying things like they never mess anything up”
Everyone fucks up. We’ll get the occasional flawless pickup, but a ton of pickup, especially when you’re starting out, is about recovering from fucking up. The prob is most new guys have an extremely low threshold for what they consider fucking up…they stumble over a couple words, or say something that makes her frown, or fail a shit-test, etc. and go “fuck it, it’s over ahhhhh!!!” and run away lol
Your mentality will end up holding you back down the road, you’ll pass up opportunities to approach because your brain will say “but she’s with her friends” or “but your hair isn’t perfect today” or “let’s just wait till she quits walking around first” etc. We’ve all been there. 🙂
Try going up and PURPOSELY fucking up. Like make it a game with your buddies to see who can get slapped by a girl first. You’ll be surprised how much a girl can “hate” you or think you’re a “loser” and still turn it around into attraction.
One exercise I do (often at the start of the night) for the fuck of it is approaching with a purposely sabotaging myself with an offensive/horrible opener that SHOULD get me blown out and instantly makes the girl hate or dislike me off the bat…and then trying to turn it around and save the set. Spend a few months doing this, and learning how to “change her mood, not her mind” and hold your frame etc., and you’ll have weirded out a ton of chicks at the start (lol) but you’ll learn some useful shit about how hard it is to really “fail” and gain a lot of reference experience that things are rarely as bad as your brain tells you they are in the moment.
Julien from RSD on rejections simply being “unfinished business”:
Here’s Todd from RSD talking about pickup being messy:
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Remember the last time you talked to an unattractive girl? You did and said what you wanted, completely oblivious and unconcerned with her opinion of you and your behavior and your goals. Treat hot girls this way and they will crush on you just like the ugly fattie. Forget what she thinks and concern yourself with how she feels. Make her feel dominated.Her opinion of you is none of your business. She may think you’re a self centered prick who just sleeps with girls for the fun of it and ditched them later. Luckily, the part of her brain responsible for attraction never evolved out of the paleolithic. She’ll absolutely hate you the entire time it takes to ride you to exhaustion in the bad dark night.
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Pithy and smart. And without having to post the lecture of another man to express a truth.
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On this note: “Tony is basically doing the thing I’ve describe that I do where he says something so offensive and impossible to ignore that she can’t NOT respond to it.”
Here’s Julien breaking some of this method down. The boxer letting an opening slip in their defense is basically what Tony’s doing (and what I do). The 8+ girls won’t hand their attention to everyone who wants it or they wouldn’t make it through their day…create a good emotion or a bad one you can recover from, anything is better than creating NO emotion (asexual beta friendzone shit):
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Got tears coming out of my eyes that was so bad-ass/funny. Never saw that before. Thanks.
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“It’s just that those things that are important to them are important to THEM…they’re not “this girl likes Justin beiber so now he’s important to me too so hopefully she likes me!!” This is why you can talk about world of Warcraft and shit with girls and get attraction.”
This works for women too.
Women shouldn’t copy the men they date. Have your own distinctive feminine style that doesn’t resemble his, so that you don’t look and feel like one of his buddies, cuz you’re not. Often, women end up looking and acting like their BFs. Some men think they want a buddy/lover-type, but they’re influenced by feminist efforts to obliterate sex differences, which almost always end up killing romance.
“Guys picture pickup as being this flawless smooth James Bond thing where every response is perfect and flawless and the girl doesn’t shit-test them at all and everything they say hits perfectly.”
Pay attention, he gets shit-tested every time he meets a new girl. It’s a constant male-female sexual struggle in every one of his films.
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Tony is a clkassic example of asshole game. all he cares about is himself. HE is his main priority. she’d been on the pedestal forever b/c she was “da boss’s” chick and every did whatever she wants. then some scrub like Tony comes along and puts her in her place.
classic.
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He also analyzes Frank the boss who everyone is all intimidated by and dismisses him because he can see in his eyes that he’s soft.
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“Our tolerance of the new immigration has two sets of causes, ironically contrasted. The chief consideration, from our side of the water, has been the profit that is to be made out of laborers who will submit to an un-American standard of living?and of wages. Hand in glove with this is the profit which steamship lines find in a multitude of steerage passengers. These are no mere allegations but facts familiar to all sociologists — who make use of them nowadays mainly as socialistic propaganda. A vigorous contributory cause
has been the effort of philanthropic Jews to relieve their nationals from the persecutions of central Europe, and to open up to them the blessing of our land and its institutions — a movement that has been more successful, far, than
Zionism. “Not only Jerusalem is the golden.” These forces of our own ruthless greed and of an intelligent race philanthropy have found a strong ally in our national sentimentality — which propagandists from the basic industries, from the steamship companies and from the friends of Russian and Polish Jews have not been slow to foster. The “blessing of democratic institutions,” they tell us, is a solvent in which all races rise to any desired height. In praise of
our “melting pot,” Israel Zangwill wrote a whole, long play, which had a wide appeal to our self approbation. Even the politicians have joined the fulsome eulogy — for many of them find in the increasing hordes of ignorant voters an inexhaustible source of power. One and all point out — and not without truth — that in patience and endurance, as also in thrift, these aliens are our superiors — neglecting to add, of course, that these very qualities, coupled with their lower standard of conduct and thought, will enable them eventually to dispossess us of our birthright. They subtly suggest that, by relieving us of the merely manual task, they leave us free to advance in prosperity and in the
enjoyment of it — but do not point out the inevitable end of that enjoyment! They appeal mightily to our “reason” in suggesting that the only quick solution of the servant problem is in rapidly increasing immigration. No doubt the wise ones said the same in Rome! Industrially and politically we are committing the age-old Nordic folly. And we not only give these “wage slaves” full citizenship but proclaim them in all ways our equals– blandly assume that we have “Americanized” them when we have taught them our patter of equality and democracy.”
(John Corbin, Liberty above Equality, The North American Review, Vol. 212, No. 781, December 1920).
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1. I don’t think Tony Montana had game—he merely was a persistent asshole here, and Pfeiffer’s character knew she couldn’t just blow him out because her current lover did business with him. This kind of cheesy machismo is definitely what many girls term creepy. There’s a reason he had to become a cocaine kingpin to land her—and also why he wanted to fuck his sister…
Anyway, the movie’s overblown, cheesy, and bad, which is precisely why niggers love it so.
2. Per your previous link/tweet to the movie Smarty:
Gentlemen, if you ever want to be depressed (and if you ever want a good, hard warning) watch Smarty with the girlish, sexy-but-off-beat Joan Blondell….then fast forward about 30 years and watch Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? . In the second flick, you not only get to see the immortal Jane Mansfied (now that’s a hard 10, Heartiste!) in her prime, but also you get to see her matronly manager…played by Joan Blondell. In the second film, she’s old, frumpy, fat, ugly, sarcastic, boorish, and in no way resembles the sexy bitch of Smarty. It’s a gigantic warning to all men who pedestal women for looks…this too shall pass…hard..right into a wall.
The really depressing part is when you remember that a famous publicity shot of Blondell—where she was nude, but her lady parts hidden by a chair—was one of the main images held up and used as an example to start the Hayes Code and de-sexify movies in the 1930s.
As I said once about another girl, she used to stop a clock, but later, the only things that stopped for her were buses.
Sadness. Time wounds all beauty.
Anyway, on a happier note, RAPE!
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Even Klan members are movie buffs, apparently.
(shrugs)
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Catholics can be Klan members? News to me.
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Oh Sweetheart, still obsessed with me.
Lol. Poor wittle liberal gimp is about one gay pride parade from coming out like Buzzy Bissinger…for black cock up his backside, of course.
Here’s some truth for you, bitch: Michael Clarke Duncan deserved to die,anti-fat crusades are bogus, and black people are savage stupid inhumans
Your welcome, boy. lol.
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p.s and if you want a red-pill movie that will blow your negro-worshiping mind…try the granddaddy of them all, Birth of a Nation.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/worlds-first-sex-robot-revealed-at-porn-show-1864266.html?fb_action_ids=10100410098732885&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210100410098732885%22%3A479493393520%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210100410098732885%22%3A%22news.reads%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
Old?
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😆 she’ll never grow old and her pussy will always remain tight, however lifeless she is.
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Now that is creepy.
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Learn from the best
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heartiste @heartiste 54m
Commenter “botti” delivers Cathedral killing blows, absolute decimation of equalist lies. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/jason-richwines-racial-theories-are-nothing-new/275743/ … ”””””””
be carefull what you wish for the cathedral is gonna say yea that’s true its based on race and then distribute the free benefits based only on that
which is already done
but lets say worse than present
so the white man will get nothing except his child support bill alimony and minority support bill he he he
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Wild Orchid with Mickey Rourke. Watch the whole thing only for the way he games.
A few aspects to this. The context seems to be that she believes he attacked her in disguise.
Her: “How would you know what i like?”
Him: “Instinct”
She then pushed back and says she’s got a pile of work and can’t meet him at his proposed noon time pick up.
Him: “Then I’ll pick you up at 3″—assume the sale.
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