I say when, not if, because equalists WILL accept the premises of HBD (human biodiversity), whether their acceptance comes willingly or at the behest of the smoking ruins which will be the eventual consequence of studiously avoiding the truth and wallowing in lies for personal profit.
Hot on the heels of leftoids having another satisfying public hate session (do they ever tire of their self-grooming hysterics?) over Jason Richwine’s (UPDATE: Jason Richwine has resigned from the Heritage Foundation. Score a win for the lying filth) mortal sin of observing the world and reporting the facts, GLPiggy commenter “lords of lies” wonders what America would look like if the Cathedral finally realized the truth of HBD, openly admitted its descriptive and predictive power, and began to tailor their policies accordingly. Would policy tilt more left-wing or more right-wing? The answer is not as obvious as might appear.
a case could be made for either outcome: more left-wing or right-wing policies.
regarding the former, the thinking by leftoids would go like this:1. ok, people are genetically different, and unequally able to succeed in a modern, information- and abstract symbolism-heavy economy. therefore, we need to make life as comfy as possible for the left side of the bell curve (which we now believe in).
2. it’s not FAIR that people and groups are born with better or worse abilities and temperaments. ergo: massive redistribution.
3. this redistribution will take the form of direct payout (really, bribery to abstain from rioting), rather than feelgood policies like NCLB intended to close the gap, (which we now know can’t be closed).
4. we must encourage miscegenation so that the good genes filter down into the populations with the bad genes. (this is already happening. see any cathedral agit-prop)regarding the latter, the thinking by rightists would go like this:
1. ok, group differences in IQ and other important traits are finally understood to be real by those in power. therefore, we need to end quotas, set-asides and affirmative action now because they only punish people who, through no fault of their own, were blessed with the right recombinatorial soup at conception.
2. it might not be FAIR, but no one said life was fair. children demand fairness to the exclusion of every other consideration; adults accept that unfairness is a part of living in the natural world. we should do our best to avoid deliberate unfairness, but accept that organic unfairness isn’t going anywhere, and that efforts to ameliorate organic unfairness will often lead to worse, intentional unfairness.
3. any redistribution (as a form of danegeld or preventative so that bleeding heart liberals won’t have to witness the poor dying in the streets from starvation and chaotic violence) should be coupled with eugenic social planning. e.g., any amount in govt largesse received over X would require the recipient consent to his or her reproductive incapacitation.
4. nominal rightists like Charles Murray could also make a case for encouraging miscegenation so as to avoid inequality boosting and culture severing cognitive stratification. but the more likely response would probably be active anti-dysgenics policies. i could see the widespread emergence of shaming campaigns against lower class white women dating outside their race.“Of course, the iron rule of Progressivism is that if you never, ever say anything bad about minorities and women you can get them to vote for you no matter what your actual policies are. Therefore the reaction is political rather than policy-based and certainly few people who matter are actually interested in the truth.”
it’s a dangerous game, to run as one thing and govern as another. but in a riven society like ours, it makes some sense, because competing tribes will vote more on emotion than on rationality or interest for the common good. you tacitly suggest the right could take a pointer from the left and mouth all the anti-racist platitudes, but then govern like realists. however, that is exactly what the right has been doing for a long time, minus the governing like realists part. and what has it gotten them? nothing but their capitulation and kow-towing.
no, if the right assumes the tactics and mantel of the left to win votes through subterfuge, all that will happen is that the teat-sucklers will demand more promised concessions, and the real left will give it to them. playing perpetual catch-up is no way to win this war. and a war it is, let there be no doubt of that.
If CH had a son, he would sound like “lords of lies”.
It’s possible that, given open HBD acceptance, the leftoids may double down on their anti-white male animus by clinging ever more bitterly to their “institutional racism” shibboleth, on grounds that humans evolved dysgenic traits under discriminatory pressures. (Of course, this argument, like most equalist arguments, is easily refuted.)
If that were to happen, all bets are off. A healthy civilization can only sustain so much delusion, weaseling, sophistry and lies from its ruling class before the whole thing implodes as the rickety foundation gives under the weight of its prettifying ornamentation.
So… either the status whoring, sermonizing Cathedral is going to WAKE THE FUCK UP and do an about face as they discard their cherished pretty lies, or the ropes are going to grow in number and creak ever louder as they swing from the gallows waiting for justice.

Great post.
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The Left has no grounding in morality – they are utterly amoral.
For the longest time, I have felt that the Left adopted the Frankfurt School’s fig leaf of “Multiculturalism” as a pseudo-religion to which they could adhere so that they could avoid having to confront their deepest, darkest, most horrifying inner thoughts: That they desire nothing less than to slaughter and to annihilate the inferior races.
By contrast, the really weird thing is that most of us White Nationalists are also pro-life Christians, so we don’t wish any physical ill upon the Negroes or upon the Mexicans.
We just don’t want them in our country.
And we certainly don’t want the Frankfurt School bussing them to the polls every November with the express purpose of seeing to it that our country and our civilization are destroyed.
But as far as White Nationalists are concerned, the Negroes and the Mexicans are certainly free to go home to Africa or to Mexico and to live whatever lives and to enjoy whatever happinesses which they can muster for themselves in their natural states.
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It was Freud who said in the subconscious, opposites converge.
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lozozozozoz
like miniver cheevey we were born too late zlzozozl
Miniver Cheevy
BY EDWIN ARLINGTON ROBINSON
Miniver Cheevy, child of scorn,
Grew lean while he assailed the seasons;
He wept that he was ever born,
And he had reasons.
Miniver loved the days of old
When swords were bright and steeds were prancing;
The vision of a warrior bold
Would set him dancing.
Miniver sighed for what was not,
And dreamed, and rested from his labors;
He dreamed of Thebes and Camelot,
And Priam’s neighbors.
Miniver mourned the ripe renown
That made so many a name so fragrant;
He mourned Romance, now on the town,
And Art, a vagrant.
Miniver loved the Medici,
Albeit he had never seen one;
He would have sinned incessantly
Could he have been one.
Miniver cursed the commonplace
And eyed a khaki suit with loathing;
He missed the mediæval grace
Of iron clothing.
Miniver scorned the gold he sought,
But sore annoyed was he without it;
Miniver thought, and thought, and thought,
And thought about it.
Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
And kept on drinking.
lzoozozzoozozozozzozoozozzo
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from dalrorockas blog another GBFM poem zlozozoz
:
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/05/09/expectations-vs-outcomes/#comment-82622
deear dear novaseeker,
why is it ok for a buttccokeckerz to buttcockz womenz
and tape it in secret
but it is not ok for the hardworkiing michael
to want a good, attractive wife?
why is it ok for a womenz to have bastadrdsz chcildrenz
and expect michael to support them
but it is not ok for the good, hardworkiing michael
to want a good, attractive wife?
why is it ok for the FED to bail outz gambling corrupt ceosz
and expect michael to support them
but it is not ok for the good, hardworkiing michael
to want a good, attractive wife?
why is it ok for a buttccokeckerz to buttcockz womenz
and tape it in secret and publish and profit off it
but it is not ok for the hardworkiing michael
to want a good, attractive wife?
why is it ok for churchchers to asancifify sanctify forgive fonication aduletery bastadrdry
and to embrace single motherhood and bastard children
but it is not ok for the hardworkiing michael
to want a good, attractive wife?
deear dear novaseeker,
why do you and so many manhamster mangina churchians
reserve all your harsh judgment for your brother
the good hardworking michael
while giving all the buttcockers, fornicatiores ususuers gamblers theiveesz single moms
a free pass?
were you butthexted and deosuled through your mannginabuttholez?
raised by single momsz with no FATHER?
corrupted by churchians who falsely taught you that
Jesus caem came to ABOLISH the LAW
and not to FULFILL it?
What is da source of your h8 for MEN
your h8 for your brothers and fathers?
accusing them of “stewing” whenever they are philosophiziing
What is da source of your butthurt h8
4 the GREAT BOOKS FOR MENZ?
pleae dos ahre do share tahnkz!!
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hey da GBFM made a new post on hiss bloggorea todya!!!
i was at dinner once at my LA/NYC 10′s grilfreindsz house and her dad asked a questionz.
her dad said “the other day i was talking to our ministerz and he asked me if i knew what the number once cause of divorce and marital strife was. i guessed “lack of fiath?” and he said, “no–lack of money.” he expalined, “the minister stated that money and how much or little you make is the number one cause of marital strife issues and divorce.”
i looked at my grifreind and she was nodding nodding nodding obediently nodding like a little puppy dog.
den dey look at da GBFM to see what I thinkz on the matter.
so da GBFM thinks about, puts his fork down, leans back an says, “well, money being the measure of marriage, i reckonz i am getting a pretty good deal, as i am fucking your daughter for free! lzozozoz”
das right! When she is younger hotter tghter and fifty poundsz lighter dan da money man who will some day claim da GBFMs sloppy esecondz secndz, sanctifed by the good churchian minister minister in a CHURCHIAN cermeeoniez zlzozlzlozzo after which she will eatz wedding cakses and gain 400 poundz. zlzozlzlzo
also da chcurahicn churchian marriage system court stae beebeenrkake scam does somthing that no pimp ever would–dey charge you for past use of a pussysysysys past use of a pussysysyziziz lzozozlzzozlzo
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Shit damn.
It looks like I’ve been censored at The Chateau.
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I also seem to be unable to post lengthy responses. Shorter responses fly through though.
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Well, I spoke too soon – it only took about three days for my post to wiggle its way to the top of the stack.
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My plan: Invest in rope manufacturing.
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Bring the Guillotine back. Much cooler than a gallows.
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Nah, French Revolution was Cathedral 1.0. Firing squad would be better, but best of all would be simple exile to vibrant shit hole of choice.
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Agreed! It would be awesome to witness the old elite meet the guillotine on national tv every Monday, Friday, and Saturday. They could even sell tickets and have guillotining cheerleaders.
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Indeed, it’s not sufficient that The Enlightened™ are merely out of power. For the damage they’ve inflicted I want them punished!
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This level of treason demands the return of impaling.
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I vote for a form of crucifixion.
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Fuck that. Lead, nothing but lead.
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What exciting and varied ways you think of to kill people!! I bet EVERYONE would love to know your colorful ideas for societal improvement. Co-workers–all the special, smart insiders like you who’ve got things all figured out.
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This is a nice Cathedral tactic: steer society straight into an iceberg, suppress dissent to the point of impotence, then treat anyone who thinks of violence as an obvious psychopath.
Destroying Western civilization is a big deal. I don’t think anyone should be shot because in my experience the Cathedral really is more stupid than malicious, but I have no sympathy for the elite which knowingly wrecks the lives of the citizens it is entrusted to lead. Some of these guys are real dull, some of them are just hyper-moralized, and most of them are just moral cowards, but there is also a minority who are cheering the titanic on for the sake of their own status-mongering, the United States be damned. For them, retribution.
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Don’t worry, we’ll do the dirty work Subway Diddler. Wouldn’t want your mascara to run.
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And by dirty work I mean defending America(FUCK YEAH) in case the Chinese decide to come get your soft ass..
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I think No Child Left Behind is ultimately going to be the downfall of blank slatists. As it is, every year we accumulate millions and millions of additional measurements showing a racial test score gap in a number of subjects. Every year, more policy programs are evaluated for effectiveness. All of these programs fail on a large scale level. All of these programs will continue to fail measurably over the next coming decades. Eventually, people will have to face the facts and accept that the test score gap along with a number of other cognitive and behavioral traits is genetic to varying degrees.
However, it will be decades before the HBD view is widely accepted. I estimate that by the time this view is widely accepted, we will have advanced sufficiently to quickly create cognitive gene therapies that allow the left side of the bell curve to essentially take supplements and hormones and function more like smarter and more disciplined people.
The right thing to do will be to find these therapies as quickly as possible and either make them subsidized or very easily affordable. You probably would not need to make them mandatory because most people would want to take them.
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What is to say the therapies wont be aimed at making the stupid people less belligerent. What your suggesting is to soup up a jalope so it can run llke a new Porsche, which makes no sense. If one were to design an ideal world everyone would know their place and be relatively happy with it. There will always be a need for someone to clean the sewer pipes and take out the trash.
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Delta Epsilon Semi-morons!
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If someday a pill/treatment can make an IQ of 85 or 95 jump up 20 points, people with IQs of 120 or 160 will want to take that pill too.
Everyone will move to the right of the bell curve and there will still be inequality.
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Maybe not, pills that increase cognitive ability might do that by mimicking biological processes already at work in the smart. For instance, you might find that smart people have a version of a gene which causes a protein to do so and so. Theoretically, lots of existing variation in IQ could be the result of subtle differences in protein function in stupid people. Therefore, stupid treatments could be created that fix dumb people by making them biologically similar to smart people, but those treatments wouldn’t have any effect on the naturally smart.
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And what inevitably happens when a program is deemed a failure? They ask for more money.
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They do. As of now, they keep expanding the scope of programs so they can emulate every aspect of upper middle class child rearing. They failed with better textbooks, so they said that the students needed a better breakfast to concentrate. So now programs include breakfast and after school snack. They said poor kids were losing information over the summer while rich kids went to summer camp, so they created summer camps for poor kids. Then they created programs to require parental involvement in school, after school programs where kids could do monitored hw, etc. They will keep finding a reason why poor (NAM) kids don’t have something rich kids have, and they will keep making programs to give NAMs those benefits. Here and there, some programs may have some incremental effect in some locality, but overall, they cannot make the gap narrow that much. Eventually, they will get tired of being failures at helping the NAMs and they will realize the reality of the situation.
Also, as the white percentage of the population shrinks, more and more of the middle class will be, by definition, hispanic and even black. These people will resent being overtaxed to pay for poorer NAMs. They may gradually oppose redistribution in the next coming decades (at least 3 decades out).
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I once said that too and fondly recall the day when calling oneself a “Liberal” was seen as open stupidity. However, a whole generation has been reared that believes the usual cathedral lies and we are trying the same failed policies again, only harder. Lack of money will eventually solve the problem but not society’s collective maturation.
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When you point out that even 5th generation Hispanics still have an IQ gap, all the left does is point and stutter.
To borrow from Upton Sinclair, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” There’s a lot of “salaries” riding on not understanding the implications of HBD.
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How would they stop a white guy from giving new sneakers to a black guy in exchange for his unwanted ‘oreo pills’?
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Wow, a cogent and perceptive comment from feminstx. Actually, there’s nothing surprising about that; I’m just pleasantly shocked that you wrote three full paragraphs not about yourself. Keep it up.
You make an excellent point that it will be decades before HBD is widely accepted. As Thomas Kuhn said about scientific revolutions, the truth won’t win when the ruling generation is persuaded; it will win when they die off.
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“As Thomas Kuhn said about scientific revolutions, the truth won’t win when the ruling generation is persuaded; it will win when they die off.”
A fine day it will be when Kuhn no longer has any value as that will be the day when the objective sways people over the popular.
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Especially when the truth isn’t flattering. Ultimately this becomes a question of vanity.
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By the time science gets that far, we’ll be spending all our time fighting natural disasters due to global warming and human disasters due to NAM immigration.
We keep thinking things are going to be better, but in reality you’ll have lots of squabbling little fiefs in the former USA–just like Europe in the early Middle Ages with random kingdoms appearing and disappearing every few hundred years.
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This performance gap exists, but I believe it has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with the Al Sharpton Attitude (which tells blacks: (1) because of past discrimination, Whitey not only owes you a living, but has a duty to put up with you acting like barbarian thugs for the rest of your life (never mind that most whites now alive weren’t even adults when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ended discrimination against blacks); (2) therefore, don’t work hard in school or try to make anything of yourself).
Only a truly fair, color-blind system will ever solve this divide. But so long as most Americans would rather wimp out than be called racists by the sell-out lamestream media, politicians of all colors will go on pandering to the Attitude, making sure no one ever dares discipline school-age thugs no matter how great the cause, and even subsidizing the millions of out-of-wedlock births that renew the supply of barbarians.
If there’s hope, it lies with the right wing, despite their idiotic religion.
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“Only a truly fair, color-blind system will ever solve this divide. ”
Impossible, simply because biology isn’t colorblind, race-blind, whatever your mantra. Inventing nice-sounding ideas and attempting to force reality to fall in line is what got us into this expensive and miserable mess.
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“Only a truly fair, color-blind system will ever solve this divide. ” – The closest we’ll ever get to a truly fair, color-blind system is a nation populated exclusively with northwestern europeans. Kinda defeats the point though.
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What you say “might” happen with thinking on the left IS what has been at the root of progressivism since before Margaret Sanger. The rank and file dummycrats parrot the pretty lies, but the elite liberals have known about HBD for a long time. That is why they support affirmative action. They know that some groups cannot succeed if the playing field is equal. They know that redistribution must happen if the left end of the bell curve is to remain docile. Much of what you describe was written about by leftist eugenicists in the early 1900s.
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In Vitro Eugenics is coming. Make no mistake about it. It may be outlawed by the Cathedral but China cares little for the opinions of the NY Times.
http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2013/02/13/medethics-2012-101200.full
Within 20 years, the ability to select genes in your child that will make the current generation look like dunces. This is not sci-fi. This is going to happen no matter who objects.
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Fuck Stephen Hawking smarts. My kid’s packin’ that Ron Jeremy dong.
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I’d take Tesla’s brain minus the crazy, Usain Bolt’s body minus the black, and Leonardo Dicaprio’s appearance.
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Why not get both?
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I know Ron if you want me to try to hook you up; he’s always looking to make a few extra bucks.
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“I know Ron”
LOL’ed.
Only at the Chateau.
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New flash! Stephen Hawking is a fool. He is constantly proven wrong. Anyway, there is more to smarts than just living in a world of theory. Try another supposed genius we should not emulate.
BTW, by his own admission he fantasizes about sex a lot. He married 3 times and has a few children. Good for him. I guess it’s hard picking-up in clubs in his position.
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Good point, camp. Science trumps all and exposes lies. One other thing: if intelligence isn’t hereditary, why does it suddenly become so important when infertile couples or single women need to choose sperm from which to breed?
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My first thought is that rolling geniuses off of an assembly line will be a huge boon for all of us. On the other hand….KHAAAAAAAAAAAN!
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Khan is one of only two movie villains I found incredibly sexy. The other is Hannibal Lecter.
There’s just something about that magic combination of being both extremely intelligent and able to survive hell.
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I agree with our opponents when they state “it’s more than iq”. It certainly is. There’s temperament, future time orientation, personality, it’s just that iq is the most easily quantifiable, thus it is more often studied. But this does mean that a society of high-iq sociopaths would certainly not be an improvement over one comprised primarily of lovable dullards.
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Just wait until they breed a whole bunch of aspies with no coordination who can’t fight or assemble components. Most things have tradeoffs, as any engineer can tell you.
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There are several key issues with things like this (besides the severe immorality of it, which yes, I’m sure China doesn’t give a shit about.) If you notice, this paper is all about theory, ie, maybe we could do this, not we can do this, given our current technological understanding.
The field of genetics is reasonably new, and there’s plenty that doctors don’t understand about fetal development, the impact of environmental factors, and what the side-effects of recombining genes are. It’s an unpredictable and imprecise science at best, still in its infancy, and may never actually yield the results we’d all like to think it will.
Recombining existing genes is the best we can do with current technology; just like I can’t breed a cat with bright pink fur, I can’t breed a human with a 200 IQ. Adding significant changes to an organism’s basic functionality requires cross-implantation of genes from another species. Even without getting into the ethics of that, where do we go to supplement a human being’s innate intelligence? There are limits on how much can be reasonably manipulated out of the human genome.
And, of course, there is no guarantee of what you get out of individuals with the genetic potential to be super-genuises, and a move to create a generation of such is going to be met with heavy criticism (and possibly international bans on the practice). I come from a family of hyper-intelligent people, and believe me, you’ve never met a bigger group of drug-addicted losers in your life (as a girl, I’m at 140. Imagine where my uncles, dad, and brother are). Intelligence – and especially giftedness – is not a simple matter of building a brain that works faster than an average brain. There are serious differences in behavior and personality that come into play at higher IQs that can negatively affect that person’s day-to-day life. High intelligence does not equal better outcomes. It does not exactly equal a better or more effective society. Imagine an entire country of autistic kids. To be cynical, I can see governments banning it for exactly that reason.
The left’s not going to support things like this because, waah, unfaaaaaaair. The right’s not going to support it from religious grounds. Any significant enhancements to embryos are going to be done underground, and at great expense and danger to the mother. But the transhumanist movement still seems undeterred…
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Not sure if the original actually got through, but this revised comment is the better one.
I can’t see how this ends well for the leftoids. HBD cuts at their entire reason for existence. Simply giving people money for nothing has never worked well, and The Narrative about white racism and sexism holding minorities and women down is a huge part of what is keeping their coalition together. The only way this will work for them is in the revival of left-wing eugenics. I could also see leftoids going even further and pushing to re-engineer human nature as a whole to meet their vision of what it should be. Brave New World here we come.
Plain IQ eugenics will go relatively well. Intelligence is a relatively straightforward aspect of human nature, with a relatively straightforward relationship to genetics.
Radical attempts at re-engineering human nature won’t go nearly as well. Other human traits are much more complicated and have a much more complicated relationship to culture.
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“I can’t see how this ends well for the leftoids. HBD cuts at their entire reason for existence. Simply giving people money for nothing has never worked well, and The Narrative about white racism and sexism holding minorities and women down is a huge part of what is keeping their coalition together. ”
Even now, it is not the only thing that keeps the philosophy of redistribution together. For example, there are a wide array of state funded programs to help people with severe retardation. No one argues that the source of their mental disability is not biological. Still, there are state funded educational programs, special schools, buses, adult placement programs and adult caretaking programs for these people. There is no expectation that they will ever fully be able to rise above their circumstances. If anything, programs for these people are among the least controversial between the current left and right wing because we all understand that they cannot be blamed and that they deserve compassion.
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Ur a smart chick fem. ❤
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Hey cads, fem gave me a <3, so we have a clear winner here at this blog, and it's ME !!! suck it!!!
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For example, there are a wide array of state funded programs to help people with severe retardation.
They’re called school loans.
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Good timing to plug Chateau-favorite Bill Bennett’s new book, Is College Worth It?:
http://www.amazon.com/Is-College-Worth-Secretary-Education/dp/1595552790
But we all know he’s a secret agent for the feminists. Or a useful idiot. Or Ben Bernanke’s towel boy. Or something faux-deep and rebellious like that.
“Bill Bennett wept” = I’m not leftwing or conservative. I’m a brand new ideology that I just made up myself. Maybe I’ll use a kewl label with “Dark” in it. See how I gore everybody’s ox? I’m, like, sooo independent, see.
“Revalorizing the trades” will deliver us from the “higher” ed glut. (See, I just quoted a lesbian professor, Camille Paglia, to show how eclectic I am!)
Matt
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Its called Womens Studies…
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Would be great if they had a program or financial incentive to abort retarded babies. Everyone I know who chose to keep one had their lives destroyed by having basically a two year old for the rest of their lives.
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Life is an inalienable right. Was recently reading about how the Spartans tossed weaklings off a cliff. Apparently they disagreed.
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Down’s babies are aborted at a rate of 90%. But I’m sure things like govt-run health care will bump that closer to 100%.
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what’s going to be fun is watching women and homosexuals and other groups start turning on abortion rights as they realize how often their groups are aborted compared to normal.
http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/9894
“Should female feticide in Canada be ignored because it is a small problem localized to minority ethnic groups? No. Small numbers cannot be ignored when the issue is about discrimination against women in its most extreme form. This evil devalues women.”
lol
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And selective abortion of female fetuses is working out so well for India and China. lol
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No one is criticizing that sort of spending. What we are critical of is 49 million Americans schlepping food stamps.
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Nobody has any problem treating the disabled like children and stepping in to run their lives if necessary. That’s going to be hard to do with most other groups.
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I agree. My opinion of leftists is pretty low, but I still can’t imagine them being evil enough to hold their leveling beliefs while accepting HBD.
If it were possible, wouldn’t we see some of them today? Most leftist movements have started small somewhere. Are there any leftists around today who accept HBD yet still want to level mankind to the lowest common denominator through dysgenics?
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I was a lefty to start with. My education to the right was, in order: SoSuave, The Blank Slate, evo psych, The Game, Mystery Method, RSD, The 10,000 Year Explosion, and finally Heartiste.
Most young male lefties are on the high end of IQ. I’m 140+. They’re just reading the wrong things, but you can slowly bring them around with logic.
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I could also see leftoids going even further and pushing to re-engineer human nature as a whole to meet their vision of what it should be.
They’ve done it before.
See here.
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There was inter-tribal violence which is different and even the opposite of HBD. The last thing the south wanted was for every potential voter to take literacy tests (yet today, if they were based on STEM, things would very likely improve greatly).
There was a split, but there were thriving black businesses and they were successful (without the overdone gushing nonsense like GW Carver). The economy was large and growing and everyone with a little industry could find their niche.
One very unpleasant truth is that virtue – in this case perseverance and fortitude, and even the minimal humility in doing the thing which is true with respect with reality is more important than some “ability”. Right here is one of the best examples – Alphatude is more important than actual success – the millionaire 150 IQ geek beta (gamma) won’t get the girl, the 90 IQ “good ol boy” that projects confidence will. The girl and both men will protest that all is unfair, but won’t step back and do anything different (The g.o.b. might end up paying child support – confidence and the virtue of prudence don’t naturally occur together).
MKLjr wanted to be judged on the content of his character. Today in Black communities, the abortion rate is disproportionate to be genocide, and in Detroit of those who aren’t slaughtered, 80% are born out of wedlock. Imagine a KKK meeting just after the civil rights act passed where someone hatched a plan that would produce the precise results we see today – a black president but zombie crashed economy with high unemployment and the “black family” in such dissolution that “Roots” seems a work of fiction in that you cannot find one that would care about family and heritage. I don’t think even on the slave plantations the women would have 5 children, each from different fathers.
“Unfairness” above is used in an Orwellian manner. It is being used as a synonym for Injustice, but Justice is another cardinal virtue – the rendering to each what is proper and correct without favor or bias. That opens the door to being merciful – so once we establish what people deserve (and some win the genetic or other lottery), we can then simply insure those winnings aren’t themselves used unjustly (e.g. the banksters who can buy DC so can commit frauds worthy of capital punishment and pay themselves bonuses for doing so). Perhaps Obama was referring to the public wallet when he said his would be the most “open” administration.
But to go back to those old times in places where there wasn’t chattel slavery, including out west, we had HBD in practice, but men and women – families – were fighting nature when they were farming, or even getting by in the city, and nature is perfectly just – but perfectly unforgiving. She didn’t care the hailstorm would ruin the crop. Or that their children die of disease. As technology conquered nature and allowed us to go beyond that form of justice, we instead fight each other, and cheat – that is the correct word – in the name of “fairness”, and it is a contest of who can cheat the best, though nature herself is reasserting her justice, for she will only be played by the rules she herself obeys, so technology itself can overcome the ephemeral and transient details, but the foundation remains.
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Comment of the decade.
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I can’t believe I’m seeing this, excellent post. This is my belief, though I lack the ability to articulate it as well as you. Take so many years of adaptation/evolution and turn it on its head through “modern living,” in a relatively short period of time, and you have what we’re experiencing today.
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People will eventually learn, whether they like it or not, that one cannot fight God/nature. You will lose.
And, oh yeah I wish the Germans had won.
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the japanese their allies too
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Well they didn’t win so stop looking to the past to save you b/c it won’t! The rich and wealthy and elite of the White race don’t give two sh!ts about you while you are still clinging onto a hopless notion of race loyalty.
Better open you reyes. This is CLASS WARFARE and there are only two sides that are going to be eventually – RICH and POOR.
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That’s like saying that the rich and wealthy elite of the White race don’t care about your health and well-being. It doesn’t mean that WE shouldn’t care about it. The rich and wealthy elite have always done their own thing irrespective of what those from lower income categories did…who cares what they care about, and why is it any of your business?
Different groups of white people got along fine in Minneapolis, Denver, and Phoenix for decades. Why do you find a problem with different groups of white people banding together and mutually acknowledging their generic whiteness if it makes them happy? This isn’t peculiar to the US either, the same thing goes for Canada, New Zealand, and Australia. People who moved to areas retained some of their ancestral traditions, culture and customs…and developed new ones along side other “generic” white people. Little league baseball, high school football, Shakespeare in the park, Scouting, bowling leagues, county fairs, church festivals, vacations to the beach/lake/ski resort, college fraternities/sororities, local watering holes, etc.
The thing is white people were perfectly fine without any black, Latino, Asian or Muslim people involved…even though it was just generic white people involved. There are still a few parts of America where cultural traditions custom involves exclusively white people, like in DeSmet, SD where they reenact Laura Ingalls Wilder’s “Little House on the Prairie” in a live outdoor play every Friday in the summer. All these white people get along fine even though they “traded” their actual lineage for a “generic” White American identity. Black people are totally unnecessary in this entire undertaking, although I’m sure a number of the townsfolk would just love to add “diversity” not having experienced what that means first hand.
I just don’t get where you’re coming from when you want to deny generic white people something which is obviously so beneficial for them. It helps them be happy and promotes their generic white identity. What difference does it make to you that their identity has blended with that of other similar genetic groups that share the same haplotype as them?
A dirty little secret is that even non-elite but still well to do white liberals even LOVE to congregate with other generic white people. Yet they will decry racism while they enjoy their nearly all-white summertime gathering for burgers (both real meat and vegetarian) and wine.
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“This is CLASS WARFARE and there are only two sides that are going to be eventually – RICH and POOR.”
Bullshit. I have just as much of a beef with low IQ trailer/ghetto trash living on welfare as I do with George Soros and Obama and Mark Zuckerberg giving it to them. Both of them are teaming up to fuck those of us with higher than 90 IQ’s and a respect for scientific fact over political agenda. I don’t plan on letting either group get off so easy.
It’s not rich people who have inculcated in Americans a rabid fervor to be enslaved. Rich people weren’t the ones cheering on martial law in Boston. People did that shit to themselves.
Because they’re stupid.
Just because they don’t have any money doesn’t make them any less stupid and dangerous. If George Soros got all of his money seized by the IRS tomorrow he’d still be an evil machiavellian shit.
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Most rich people pushed for open borders, idiot.
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And BTW what do you mean by “people cannot stop GOD or nature”? uhm if youa re talking about miscegenation you are not very intelligent since if GOD/NATURE did not want people of different races to mix, he would have made it to so where they cannot pro create or have sexual relations.
the fact that all humans have vaginas nad/or penises pretty much trumps your “theory”.
My God what is wrong with some people! 🙄
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Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
Besides, back before modern medicine mulattoes never survived because they didn’t have malaria protection. And also, number of children is less on average in interracial relationships when compared to same race relationships (pretty sure that’s true..definitely true for asian white pairings)
No one of any race should be in interracial relationships. My reasons are too numerous to list…and not all of them have to do with IQ. There are deeper things about races than just IQ.
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God/nature also made the rape of 8 year old girls possible.
It does not mean we should do it.
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“People will eventually learn, whether they like it or not, that one cannot fight God/nature.”
Q.E.D.
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And BTW what do you mean by “people cannot stop GOD or nature”?
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He means you can’t fight reality. Whether you believe in God or that we are all here as a result of chance, wishing hard that things should “be different” and that “Someone should do something” is always futile.
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Those of us who believe in both God and HBD also believe in something called “free wiil.” I realize you may well not have heard of this revolutionary concept, but it ensures that people can and will make the wrong choices, based on their genetically-based intelligence and overall cognitive abilities. That God did not make miscegenation physically impossible makes it neither biologically productive nor heavenly blessed. See homosexual sodomy. As an aside, you might want to choose a screen name other than the black corruption of “Nancy.” It won’t make your comments any more logical or intelligent, but it might lessen the intrinsic bias that logically follows upon noting such a designation.
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This logic sucks. I can knock up my daughter, but I’m fairly certain God would disapprove. Look at Lot’s daughters…their offspring have been dimwitted trouble ever since they tricked their drunken dad into screwing them. Miscegenation is on a par wih incest.
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If the Germans had won, wouldn’t the most intelligent racial group be wiped out?
By IQ scores Jews are a standard deviation above white people as a whole, just as whites are above blacks by about the same measure.
Your logic is more dysgenic than any welfare policy subsidizing idiots breeding.
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Not sure its a loss when you replace a few million highly intelligent people with ten fold that number of a group whose average intelligence is lower but due to its numbers and high average intelligence, more than make up the difference of those lost. Throw in the tendency of the Tribe to undermine their host nations and I say you would have had a bargain in the end.
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You’re really gonna poop bricks after reading this.
yes White male and Black female marriages tend to last the most of all marriages including those of monoracial marriages.
http://www.ncfr.org/
Eat ya hearts out RACISTS!!! 😉
“But Will It Last?”: Marital Instability Among Interracial and Same-Race Couples*
The report said they “used 10 years as our primary exposure period [to examine] because the average duration of American marriages that end in divorce is 8 years.”
1. “Racial differences in marriage, on the other hand, correspond to higher divorce rates but mostly in marriages where the White spouse is female.”
2. “NH [non-hispanic] Black husband/White wife marriages were twice as likely to divorce as White/White couples, and NH Asian husband/ White wife couples were 59% more likely, according to Model II. Highlighting the role of gender in interracial dynamics, the reverse combinations actually showed a lower or similar risk of divorce.”
3. “White husband/NH Black wife couples were 44% less likely to divorce than White/White couples,” and White husband/NH Asian wife couples were only 4% more likely to divorce by Year 10.
4. “The current study examined the likelihood of divorce among interracial couples compared to same-race couples. We find that although interracial marriages overall are more vulnerable to divorce, this reflects the experience of some but not all couples. According to the adjusted models predicting divorce as of their 10th year of marriage, interracial marriages that are most vulnerable involve White females and non-White males (with the exception of White females/Hispanic White males) relative to White/White couples. Conversely, White men/ non-White women couples show either very little or no differences in divorce rates; or, as in the case of White men and Black women, are substantially less likely than White/White couples to divorce by their 10th year.”
5. “Our data show that these marriages, specifically those involving Black men and White women, have the highest likelihood of disruption of any White/ non-White marriages.”
6. “NH Black women and White men who choose to intermarry may be selective of an especially high degree of commitment to their relationship that reduces the potential for divorce.”
In other words, bw who marry wm tend to be selective and we tend to select white men who can commit to a long term relationship; these men are serious about that commitment and the converse is also true, meaning that wm tend to select commitment-centric bw.
7. “Interracial couples tend to be homogamous on education.”
This means that their educational levels or skills, abilities, etc. tend to be the same or equivalent.
8. “Whites, specifically White females, who intermarry tend to be less educated than those who marry other Whites.”
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Neecy,
why would it make us “poop bricks” since it agrees with us?
here is what I found in the excerpts you posted
“…interracial marriages overall are more vulnerable to divorce …”
that is what we ” racists” have been saying all along that since it is not natural it is more prone to failure.
the other thing that they say in your excerpts is white women are the most likely to divorce, again we knew that already.
We know leftism and feminism have turned white women into horrible creatures.
There will not be any pooping of bricks by any of us today dear
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If it would make you feel better, I could go all Mengele on your ass. Idiot. What role would you have in their brave new world? Fertilizer, perhaps?
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HBD realism will either discredit liberalism and cause its end — or it will bring on a doubling-down on liberalism, with mandated mixing. From each according to his (genetic) ability to each according to his (genetic) need.
Aggregate eugenics, in other words. Either progressive eugenics with low IQ population females sidelined or impregnated by high-IQ sperm, or regressive eugenics (of which we have a soft version going on now) with high-IQ females sidelined or impregnated by low-IQ sperm.
So HBDers ought to be careful what they wish for. IQ arguments are usually arguments by proxy; people who don’t want to sound racist (ie, human), make it about an impersonal quantity like IQ. HBD without nationalism is just another form of right-liberalism.
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“mandated mixing”
With the obvious waiver for the Ashkenazim, of course, who will be the only group which will be allowed to continue breeding for IQ maximization.
Shit outta luck if you’re Sephardim.
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Good, Sephardim chicks are better looking anyway.
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“eugenics with low IQ population females sidelined or impregnated by high-IQ sperm”
Stupid women impregnated by high IQ, render stupid boys because a boy’s intelligence is influenced more by the mother’s genes, not the father. Do we want that?
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There was that William Saletan article at Slate 2-3 years ago, in which he wrote that races have unequal IQs. This brought heat his way so in his next column he said that “the races ought to reunite” for the sake of leveling the IQ difference.
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Of course the races have unequal IQs.
It’s not a coincidence that the highest IQ group had had the most reproductive success and why the world is mostly Asian. IQ is why places like Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Korea look like some futuristic society, but every single urban American city has large swaths that looks like it’s populated by chimps banging on rocks like the movie “2001: A Space Odessey”.
The pure anger and rage that erupts from SWPLs is not because they believe in equality, but because they are afraid of their inferiority.
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Q is why places like Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Korea look like some futuristic society,
You forgot Germany, which has a 105 IQ, same as the East Asian average.
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Please.
There may be some nice spots but a lot of Asia is a polluted sewer. Don’t be impressed by the magazine cover, you have to look inside.
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East Asians form a distinct group.
Comparing them to other Asians is like comparing whites to arabs. They’re both caucasian but…
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I believe I read somewhere that the highest average IQ by nationality was held by South Korea. While Caucasians have the greatest number of outliers (geniuses and tards).
Homogeneity creates harmony while heterogenius chaos creates opportunity.
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Definitely a case-by-case situation. A flight from Phnom Penh to Hong Kong feels like a time machine.
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There’s an excellent China travelogue here. Shows the good and the bad, though not really the ugly (like the gynocide).
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5541335-A-Year-in-China
Has many pictures and quickly drives my firefox memory usage to well over a gig, so don’t browse on a weak machine.
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True. Asia, apart from Japan, is pretty disgusting.
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This. I, too, lived there for a few years.
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“There may be some nice spots but a lot of Asia is a polluted sewer.”
a) True, there is pollution in China because there is industrialization. But east Asia will never be polluted by hordes of Mexicans or Africans like the West.
150 years after the Emancipation Proclamation, large portions of all U.S. cities have turned into shit holes where the ancestors of the people from the Mayflower fear to tread. In another 100 years, every U.S. city will be a giant barrio that surrounds a SWPL neighborhood with a great Whole Foods store.
Don’t forget the Muslimification of Europe as well.
b) The mass of humanity is east Asian. If Darwinian fitness is to be considered, then east Asians are the fittest and most successful of the human species.
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The parts of asia you mention as looking ‘like some futuristic society’ are the parts that were most influenced by the west. I’ve seen a fair bit of China; the vast majority of it, including most of its cities, is a dingy, filthy, polluted shithole.
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because China is still developing, by the standars of today, the Europe of 100 years ago would be dingy, filthy and polluted shithole, like the victorian London, go to Taiwan and see how clean and developed is ( taiwanese are chinese immigrants, just like many american whites are germans)
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China is filthy because China doesn’t give a shit as long as money’s being made. Europe was cleaned up because the Europeans wanted it cleaned up. The Chinese who actually, actively worry about environmental conditions are in the minority, and most of them could care less as long as it keeps paying. Also, the UN lets the PRC get away with calling itself a “developing nation”, which basically removes the international community’s ability to pressure them into fixing the pollution problems.
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Do you have a cite to this?
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A useful article can be found here:
http://lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm
“THE SMART FRACTION THEORY OF IQ AND THE WEALTH OF NATIONS” by La Griffe du Lion.
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Jesus, among whites, the Irish really are pretty dumb.
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The Irish punch way above their weight worldwide culturally, politically, and intellectually. I’d say second only to Jews.
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Just for the record,the 93 IQ of the Irish ahs long been discredited. The PISA tests show Ireland as just under the top tier nations:Finland,Korea,Singapore. But-believe what you will!
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Well, this paddy tested recently at 138 and I don’t feel particularly smart compared to my compatriats.
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The fact that we Irish have about the highest GDP/person in Europe, despite five years of recession and a massive national debt to service, is probably irrelevant.
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“in his next column he said that “the races ought to reunite” for the sake of leveling the IQ difference.”
For sure that’s the ultimate leftoid fantasy, making us all mix so there are no race differences, IQ differences, wealth differences, beauty differences, etc. Hell, they are even trying to erase the two genders and consolidating them into one. That’s how the world will look like if the left succeeds.
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I agree with that and more with THIS
http://mayhaan.blogspot.com/2013/01/origins-of-races.html
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Either way, truth will set you free. Whatever the left’s response to HBD, the “racism” blood-libel will be eradicated.
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Yes, it will be accepted, but It won’t matter by then. The Culture of Critique just needed to dominate the academic and political discourse long enough to kill off white people (or at least white-majority nations) through mass immigration / miscegenation / welfare / anti-white discrimination.
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Danceny’s post nails it. Open borders, race blindness (such as it is), removal of religion from public life, removal of patriotism from national life were merely tools to vanquish white nations. They were never the abiding principles of their proponents. Their proponents don’t have an abiding principle other than, “But is it good for us?”
Much can be learned by observing jewish support for Zionism and the public policies of the Zionist entity.
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Yeah, and we are getting awfully close to the point of no return already. If we are going to turn things around, we have to do it soon.
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I would prefer a culture that expects natural selection to be the ‘designer’ rather than human centralized planning of the whole state or the whole individual genome (and the latter is the former). Mindless ecological engineering fucking works and unplugging that part of our nature could be fatal.
Mutts are the canine thoroughbreds of nature. The canine throroughbreds of man have numerous genetic weaknesses. We can accelerate human excellence by welcoming pruning by ecology. Why drag on the misery and multiply it? All we got to do is nothing but mind our own business. How hard is that? (We are a nation of natives for some fucking time now.) Fucking impossible, I know. I just need one little nation of people who think like me. JUST ONE FUCKING NATION, PLEASE!!!
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This post highlights a misconception which runs throughout this site and many others.
You believe science determines values.
Additionally, you fail to consider the political, social, and economic environments which are hospitable to eugenics (of either your “left” or “right” variety).
To requote PA: “HBDers ought to be careful what they wish for.”
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Please explain.
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Science doesn’t give us our values, it is god/the metaphysical/ or the extra or beyond science that gives us our values which we use to interpret or frame how we are going to make sense of scientific actuality/reality.
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“You believe science determines values.”
What determines values we can all agree on?
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We don’t “determine values.” Values determine us. It doesn’t matter if “we can all agree.” It doesn’t matter if anyone agrees. It Is What It Is, whatever we tell ourselves.
The scientific method is observe, experiment, control, duplicate, report, and compare. Only certain repeatable phenomena can be discerned through this method. The problem with your inference (that nothing but science can “determine[] values we can all agree on”) is that it apportions a far-too-broad scope to the physical sciences’ concentrated but very narrow powers. The natural sciences are a laser focus with astonishingly practical applications, but the Religion of Scientism attempts to boil the ocean with it. Hence, you get clowns like Pope Richard Dawkins, a fucking zoologist, pontificating about the meaning of life and the limits of reason.
The law of moral consequence is just as true as the law of gravitational consequence. But we cannot observe the soul falling the way we can observe a rock falling. Therefore a different discipline is required.
How do I know I know this? The field is called “epistemology.”
Matt
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not what he is saying but to your statement, science does define values.
im convinced you are a girl now. you conflated what he said with how you feel about it and reframed based on your feeling.
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values are nihilistic in nature. I don’t believe in reductive “values”. I believe in morals.
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That’s why he keeps a Naughty and Nice list, yo.
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You’re right; morals are absolute. They’re unchangeable; they’re not conditional on the era in which we live. For example, homosexuality is wrong. The fact liberals are trying to propagandize it and make it acceptable in this day and age, doesn’t make homosexuality good. It’s still as wrong as it ever was.
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Likewise, Marxism didn’t need to actually create a worldwide socialist utopia, just provide the rationale for killing off the European monarchies.
Likewise, feminism didn’t need to “liberate” women and make them “equal,” just provide the rationale for abolishing the monogamous family and reducing white fertility to below-replacement levels.
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You speak the truth.
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Bing of the Oh.
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This idea that leftoids or leftoidism will go away on redemption by natural ‘reality’ is way off, guys. Leftoids are the cultural tip of the spear for the elite to transform the world into their oyster. Conservatives are paid to fail by only conserving and never reaping new stores of traditionalism or rivalry. Conservatives (Limbaugh, Hannity) are the back part of the spearhead taking us down the road to serfdom. As long as there is fiat money to redirect economic activity as the money alchemists like, there will be some funded leading agency to give them more power over us until we are domesticated or dead. The reality is a legal tender plantation, not the wilds where leftoids are eventually culled and we are left standing. Leftoids will be perrenial until the underlying legal tender plantation is culled or until everyone is owned or dead. This is a political fight among men, not a conflict of natural forces. We will redeem ourselves as social (and political) beings, or there will be no redemption for us and our pleb posterity. It would then be up to elites to struggle among themselves and for any of their posterities to establish civilized freedom, if they can and they wish. AI might have other plans by then.
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CH — You forget one thing. The non-White players. They have a vote. And action belongs to them. Black people as documented by SBDL have engaged in a 70 year campaign, since the 1940’s, of ethnically cleansing Whites out of historically White cities in the North. Very successfully, by periodic riots and constant crime aimed at Whites. Mexicans have mass immigrated into the US, and even if we put a massive Wall, and prevented new ones from coming, the existing ones will remain and like Blacks be totally dependent on money transfers, AA, preferential legal status, privileged law enforcement, and more, for survival in a society that is oriented towards a few, deeply intermarried White elite, a mass Black/Hispanic underclass, and elimination of the White middle and working classes.
HBD acceptance will not change this fundamental reality. More and more taxes, confiscations, job exclusions, will need to target non-elite Whites to feed Mexicans and Blacks. Obamacare mandates 40% of all doctors be Black within twenty years, the only way to achieve that is to dumb down all standards and exclude Whites and Asians in favor of Blacks.
Politically, Blacks control the major cities of America, along with Mexicans, and demand tribute and resources from the suburbs and exurbs. Bill Gates won’t pay for them, neither will Zuckerberg, but Joe Average White guy will. HBD denial or acceptance is irrelevant. A racial spoils war against a vast non-White population dependent totally on transfers from the ever more burdened White non-elite is in the works. IT is unaviodable. The money is just not there — just as a revolt against elite misrule and massive misery, industrial pollution, poisoned food, poisoned infant formula and the elite exemption from basic rule of law is coming in China.
Technology from 1945 to the present has favored elite rule: centralization of power, economies of scale, industrial and post-industrial “smart” warfare, etc. requiring massive elite expansion and privilege. But the elite bill is coming due. Even if they believed in HBD, the need to pay off the non-Whites to crush ordinary Whites and threats to their power and privilege remain.
Left-Right is a bad analogy. We have a massive feudal elite not seen since the late Medieval period, and the mother of all peasant revolts complicated by mass non-Whites. Who get their own vote, have unlimited manpower but little military power, and the backing of elites in meting out violence.
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So, what is the iq cut off point for persons to be judged to be suitable to ‘reproduce’? Is the policy position that blacks, whites and Hispanics are to be separated and segregated? How do you get persons to accept they must live separately or not have sex with others they maybe attracted to? If iq is not the only measuring stick, what about physical deformity and mental incapacity? Should they also be segregated? Suppose you were to have a child, and that child had a handicap, would you want him/her separated? More pointedly, what would you do if your child entered into an interracial relationship? I don’t think your thinking it thru. Whether it be the right or left, empathy is an innate human quality and has a genetic root. Don’t discount so easily my friend. And I hope you find peace with the anger within you.
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“Suppose you were to have a child”
Parentage is a highly questionable assumption under such a regime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
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John, most people are sheep, especially those who’d demean themselves by calling themselves a color rather than by an actual ethnicity. Make something inconvenient enough, and they’ll backwards rationalize why obedience is good for them.
African Americans calling for forced integration and European Americans calling for forced segregation are both examples of what Dr. Carter G. Woodson would call protesting for a back door.
The problem here is that both groups are protesting for different back doors, and it’s impossible to please everyone at the same time. There’s also the issue of those two group not being the only ones whose needs have to be taken into account. So in my opinion, the solution is to utterly legally abolish race. There should be no such thing under the law. This way everyone truly is treated equally at least as far as any laws are concerned. Socially, you can’t legislate people liking or not liking one another, but this way people would be allowed to arrange themselves as they see fit without government interference.
Empathy may be an innate human quality, but history and hard social science should tell you that xenophobia is as well. Empathy does not extend to the “other” for most people any more than it does to animals. Most people are meat eaters and do not feel empathy for animals, and would not feel it even if they spent time in a slaughterhouse. Rather than horrified, they would just become desensitized.
I can tell you from personal experience that even without trying, and despite any upbringing, unless a person has built in resistance, they will inevitably switch to anomic behavior when faced with an “other”. The other person or people don’t even have to be their enemy. In fact, they could be an ally, but they would still have a compulsion to harm or mistreat them. It’s just how people are built.
So to answer your what ifs…they don’t care. They don’t care that what they’re essentially doing is protesting for the removal of their current freedoms. What matters is that they feel secure, like a baby who can’t control the movement of their limbs feels more secure when swaddled. They feel more secure if the law tells them where they can and can’t go and what they can and can’t do.
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I hear what you are saying friend, but it seems a bit hollow to speak of each other as ‘other’. The Day of the Rope thinking is wrong and misguided. Yes there are clearly genetic differences in humans, thats accepted. However the failure is when we start to elevate ones self over another because of it. And I know this resonates with everyone on here because at one time or the other we have had people use perceived or real advantages to get a leg up on us or even take advantage of us. And I am sure you felt wronged by it. However is the solution so Manichean that its either ‘lets be worst than those guys’ or ‘lets get an advantage over the such other guy’. Is it possible to get ahead in life without being an all consuming ass hole? The answer is obviously yes and we have experienced it in our own lives. What propels one person to another? Isn’t it magentism? Maybe the dark triad is one way of doing so, but does that leave you satisfied at the end of the day? I think what we have here is a strawman argument, that is that people do not accept HBD. Thats not true. Anyone who has studied the natural sciences knows that within species there is variation. What is telling is that within species these variations all serve a useful purpose.
I know this blog likes to use science to defend its positions, so lets talk a little bit about the science of science! We are aware of Karl Popper’s falsification theory. Now, as a thought experiment, if IQ is of such massive importance, what do you say to us just allowing persons above X IQ level to reproduce. What if you have X percentage at X IQ Level? Is that only persons at that IQ level must propogate with persons at that same IQ Level? If that is the basis for propogation of our species then that would mean that, at some level, persons with differing physical characteristics would mate but not persons of differing mental ability. Now if persons of differing mental ability were not allowed to mate, how do we allow for differences in populations sizes for them to propogate? Then we have to look at something else, an uncomfortable truth on a blog where pretty lies comes to die, and that is how do those who intend to steralise, segregate and/or co-erce millions of people intend to actually do so? When I spoke of empathy above, I was speaking within the context of trying to put yourself in the shoes of someone who would be faced with this sort of coercion. Its not pretty is it? Being told that your basic human instinct, outside of survival, must be curtailed by force if necessary, because of the dictates of another? That can’t be freedom my friends.
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And I say again, they don’t want freedom.
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taking away the incentives for the udnerclass to produce children out of wedlock would be a good start. No need to escalate to reductio ad absurdum and talk about sterilizing or killing people. You could also require conraceptive implant use for welfare.
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Exactly nicole. What so many race obsessors still holding on to an soon to be outdated notion of “race loyalty/purity” don’t realize is those in power who are th elites DO NOT CARE ABOUT RACE. What they care about is CLASS and keeping the rich and wealthy rich and wealthy.
They are not really affected by immigration as are working/poor and middle class groups (YES WHITES INCLUDED) and that is why nothing much is being done about immigration reform b/c immigration helps only one class – THE WEALTHY.
Whites who are of hte middle and poor class still don’t want to open thier eyes and see what is happening.
We are moving away from a RACIAL system and onto a CLASS system. At least here in America.
Its gonna to be a interesting day when the middle class and poor Whites find themselves left behind in the class restructuting and wondering where all thier “race loyalty” got them.
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I’ve said this here many times, but it falls on deaf ears, I’m afraid…
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I just cannot believe people still are just unable to stop with the emotional bull crap and see things for what they are. This is no longer the days of racial construct and purity. We are in different times now and those times are doing away with racial politics and structuring and looking more to a class system.
There will be no more Hitlers. get over it!
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Agreed. But some white people *love* to feel like victims, despite our historically obvious frontrunner status.
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There have been many Hitlers before, and there will be more.
Read a history book. You will find countless Hitlers therein.
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LOl I know. I don’t understand it. I will say yes Europeans have made great contributions to this world. but it has more to do with culturally who they are and what they seek than just some notions of “being better” or more superior.
Culture creates ways of thinking and doing. Not just being born looking a certain way or having a certain skin color.
if you put a White person from birth and raise them in the ghetto they will develop, act and be like those whom they’ve grown up around and with – the ghetto blacks.
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I’m not disagreeing with your assessment. I believe it’s more of a socio-economic class thing than a racial thing. However, do you think the elite blacks are leaving the middle-class blacks and poor blacks behind? I do. Do you believe that middle-class blacks and poor blacks show too much loyalty to the elite blacks who could care less about them? I do. An example of this is if you think Whites are getting screwed by immigration, then the Blacks are getting screwed worse. Yet Black politicians are routinely on average even less enthusiastic about limiting immigration into the USA than White politicians despite the fact that Blacks are harmed more by this than Whites. A higher percentage of Blacks are poor and compete for low wage jobs than Whites. What are your thoughts?
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naa they will find a way to get the fuck away from the ghetto blacks
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Culture, like “g,” is genetically based and proceeds from race. See adoption studies re blacks, mulattoes, and Whites,
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don’t worry, i was being sarcastic with my former comments, what a denial here, claiming that countries are what they are just for culture, is like feminism which says gender differences are just because the culture, the biological component of men-women or black-yellow-white-brown is what is makes the differences, yes, white-asian are superior in achievements basis and intelligence capacity, just look who make the world around you, the inventions,the cars, the computers, however that doesn’t mean discrimination is ok, just like men are superior to women in the sense that they are stronger or in physical capacity, however that doesn’t mean that is ok female discrimination, i am ok being a woman and a mexican and i don’t make a fool of myself, in fact i am stronger minded because i accept it
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No. I suggest you read the ‘Bell Curve’ in order to properly ground yourself in the subject matter before throwing around opinions as fact. It is obviously a partly a combination of nature and nurture but the data is clear. Even when adjusted for socio-economic background white’s tend to have higher IQs than blacks. You or I may not like it but that is what the science tells us. Have the intellectual courage to deal with it.
All this ‘blame culture’ bullshit causes more trouble because when black or other kids under achieve white kids then the first port of call is to accuse white teachers of racism and them having low expectations for kids etc. Then we get the unedifying spectacle of education being dumbed down (so high IQ aren’t encouraged to flourish and congregate) and even worse the system is designed so that pressure is put on low IQ (black or white) to hit a level that they cannot achieve.
The result is the worst of both worlds. Falling education standards for the elite and lower IQ kids are forced to feel like failures because they cannot match the achievements of others around them and are not given the practical education that might actually get them a job, feel good about themselves and contribute to society.
And why is all of this nonsense being done? Because the equalists control education and the public sector.
However, in one sense you are right. The problem is that the white elites (who are the main body of equalist thought) aren’t particularly affected by any of this. Their kids tend to be genetically smarter, more socially connected, and have strongly supportive cultural environment. They couldn’t give a shit about the real victims here. The truth is that equalism is a euphemism for racist and sexist targeting of white males and the weight of it only really falls on the poor. In addition the practical needs of lower IQ people (of whichever race) are subsumed to the desire of these equalist idiots to carry on experimenting rather than help them get a worthwhile education.
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You can’t really blame them for not seeing it. The divisions have kept most of them from reading the works by African and African American writers who saw this coming, and explained very clearly how they were programmed and liberated.
Even though they have many European writers and philosophers to draw from few, even among activists, understand the degree to which they have had their own egos used against them. They’re the house slaves who came to feel so privileged that they believed their masters actually cared about them.
They lorded over the other slaves and thought their status was assured. Now that a good bit of their work is done more inexpensively by machines and the slaves on someone else’s plantation, and they’re redundant, it’s a problem when they have to go back out into the fields among the other slaves they once lorded over.
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Neecy is right. The Talented Tenth (theBlack Elite) doesn’t give a sh!t about regular black folks who desperately want immigration eliminated. The Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons, and Congressional Black Caucus have their faces jammed so deep in the Washington hog trough they couldn’t care less.
They use white guilt to extract wealth for themselves and import more ignorant peasants that they think are going to take over the country for them.
Go to the Congressional Black Caucus website. They are ALL in favor of legalizing tens of millions of illegals who Barbara Jordan proved were driving down black wages twenty-five years ago.
And all the other greedy suck-up 100 Black Men, Alpha Kappa Alpha, and Jack and Jill types are no different. As long as they and their kids get the money they don’t care whether America goes down a rathole of poverty or not.
But it shouldn’t surprise anyone. Look what they have done to Africa. The ANC is one of the greediest outfits around. Even Bishop Tutu has reached his gag limit with the ANC.
Thanks, Neecy, for your honesty. Race loyalty sucks for regular black folks.
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Tell that to the over 90% of blacks who voted for Obama because he is black.
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“So in my opinion, the solution is to utterly legally abolish race. There should be no such thing under the law. This way everyone truly is treated equally at least as far as any laws are concerned. ”
I completely agree. There should be no difference in people under the law. They will rise and fall in society according to their innate and trained talents. Get rid of legally mandated privileges. Affirmative action and diversity hiring quotas would immediately go away.
Since “diversity is our strength”, I’m sure that companies would continue to aggressively seek out ‘diverse’ employees without being forced to do so by the federal EEOC.
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By providing financial incentives to both ends of the bell curve you can eliminate any racial discrimination. If a person wants to go on welfare, a guaranteed government income and housing, than they agree to be sterilized. If they want kids than they work. The opposite could be performed for the right end of the curve by encouraging child rearing among the most productive.
Simultaneously, we limit the electorate to land-owning, income earning heads of house so the parasites can’t vote for more stuff. There is no need for race or sex bias.
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What is going on in this world when a Heritage writer has to quit for being too effective? Maybe the political nihilists are correct and there really are no differences between the parties.
didn’t the smugs already tell us how they would accept HBD truths? See e.g., Aldous Huxley.
Let the omegas be happy in their omega-dom via drugs and fake work!
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I bet my left ball that “lords of lies” is CH himself or one of the chateau writers.
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Even while standing naked in the smoking ruins that they brought about, leftards will never acknowledge HBD. Leftism is a malicious ideology, it’s purpose is to bring about the collapse of civilization. Why would they suddenly change their minds when they get what they wanted?
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Herbert Spencer was one of the first sociologists to examine the problems of helplessness and formulated his defense of the survival of the fittest as being best promoted under liberty of contract. See Lochner vs NY
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Is anyone, ANYONE who reads the manosphere surprised that the busiest signup day on Ashley Madison for women looking to cheat is….the day after Mother’s Day??
http://dating.sfgate.com/date-report/the-most-popular-day-for-moms-to-cheat-on-their-husbands-is/#
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I would’ve thought February 15.
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That might be #2.
And I wouldn’t be surprised if their slowest day for female signups was either the day after the Super Bowl or the second day of deer season.
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How much you wanna bet the founder of Ashley Madison is a jew? I already knew it before I looked it up – anything they can do to destroy the family, they will: http://www.shalomlife.com/culture/14469/top-20-under-40-noel-biderman/
Their current play is miscegenation: get all the ignorant white sluts to whore around with apes so that they just breed us right out of existence.
When is their declaration of war going to be answered?
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“the busiest signup day on Ashley Madison for women looking to cheat is….the day after Mother’s Day??”
Because women don’t really want to have the ball and chain – kids and a beta hubby. They want “50 Shades” type lovers and having kids with them. So Mother’s Day reminds them that they are entrapped in a mundane life, which they never thought would be their lot in life when they were younger. That’s why they look for excitement on the day after.
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First one to use the word “fair” in an argument about society automatically uses.
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Fair and equal societies are good societies. The problem is that leftists have a child’s/woman’s understanding of the terms fair and equal. From their low perspective, ‘fairness and equality’ mean making everyone equally soft, comfortable, inoffensive, pitiable and especially unenviable. This is exactly what you would expect from a woman’s conception of equality and fairness.
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This here. Plus one.
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I think you missed his point.
A society can’t be fair or equal and still be a society. On a farm, there can be a farmer or family of farmers, and the animals can be more or less equal, but no society has ever been or ever will be equal.
Ever.
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What?
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Fair and equal societies are good societies. The problem is that leftists have a child’s/woman’s understanding of the terms fair and equal. From their low perspective, ‘fairness and equality’ mean making everyone equally soft, comfortable, inoffensive, pitiable and especially unenviable. This is exactly what you would expect from a woman’s conception of equality and fairness.
This statement is what I was approving of. The statement speaks for itself.
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Why would you want animals in your society?
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The farmers are one equal and fair society, the animals are a separate equal and fair society.
Problem solved.
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If all the animals are all clones of each other, then it may be possible to have such a society, but even clones will each have slightly different experiences, and the farmers or elite will still be exploiting the animals. Deep down though, Clonetopia is, I believe, what “white nationalists” are shooting for in their way…a society of people so genetically close to one another that, they assume, will be homogenous and egalitarian.
Jews tried it. It’s called a kibbutz. If you’re a remotely aware person, I don’t need to tell you how that turned out.
See, in the running of a farm or society, someone has to shovel the shit. Shit shoveling is hard and stinky work, and believe that whoever can figure out a way not to shovel shit will. This is why there was ever slavery in the first place.
There is no fairness and equality in any social group in Nature. Period. Humans will always have a hierarchy of lessers and others. It’s just how humans and every other mammal is built. Now, one can either flow with Nature or try to go against it. I recommend the former if what one wants is at least a relatively peaceful and productive society.
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As much as I loathe having to break out the crayons to explain how societies work, the farmers and the animals on the farm are interdependent. The farmer profits from the animals, and the animals get security, safety, and stability from the farmers (until it’s time for the shearing and/or slaughtering).
So you can’t have “fairness” or “equality” in any society, even or especially with very solid class structure.
Consider your current position and usefulness to society, humanity, etc.
You may be very useful in a power struggle as a fighter, but at the end of that fight, when things settle down, a society still has to have someone to shovel the shit and someone who gets shit done. No matter what color the people are, or how many or how few, or whatever mixture, some are going to be leaders and others followers. Among the followers, there have to be some people to do the light work, and some to do the heavy work, and some to do the crappy work.
There is no guarantee that you will be any higher status at the end of a revolution than you are now. In fact, your status may decrease. Ask around, as many have learned this the hard way.
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Fairness/equality and hierarchy aren’t mutually exclusive. Leftists/women assume “hierarchy” means lording it over other people, because that’s what they would do and they can’t imagine otherwise.
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Laconophile, in your dreams.
It has never happened that humans have not lorded over one another. It just is not possible to have a society in which hierarchy does not demand someone lording over someone else partly because of the arrogance of the upper classes but partly because of the need of the lower classes to be led.
Some people can’t control their baser urges without someone threatening to punish them for their sins or crimes. I’ll put it another way: the reason some people do not commit many sins and crimes than they do is because of fear of punishment.
It is a rare human being who lives on the face, does as they please, and who it does not please to use what power they have over others. Even I do it, though for benevolent ends. This is in spite of many torments I received since toddlerhood, because I think differently.
Whether someone is born of the elite or comes up from some couple hiding among the herd or forced to be there because of generic branding by color rather than capability and performance, it is the nature of the strong to dominate the weak. You just hope that the strong will be benevolent.
Benevolent strong people don’t usually come from any sort of class division that does not clear or reassign its weaker members. They also do not usually arise from the lower classes who serve as the heat and the slag in a crucible for their rise to power. Most of the time, the idea of benevolence dies with the death of a sense of responsibility to those under one’s power or the death of loyalty to those who suffer the barbs of misplaced hatred for the elite because they can see above the herd.
So the possibility of a truly fair society that is productive at the same time is so statistically negligible as to call it impossible.
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That should be “the death of loyalty *in* those who suffer…”
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Precisely. Even at this, they fail. Simply observe the way they wield this new “privilege” rhetoric. Its very purpose is to impose double standards and expectations on those they find more “privileged”.
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It’s supposed to say automatically “loses.” Fucking iPad.
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One problem: IQ doesn’t correlate with success.
Look at your own lives. How many smart but lazy white guys do you know who end up evaporating their own talents at the bottom of a bong?
On the other hand, how many semi-bright Latino guys do you know who have perseverance, determination, goal-oriented living, and straight-edge avoidance of substance abuse?
I know plenty in both categories. The former are dropouts; the latter are getting engineering jobs.
My point: The IQ discussion is somewhat misguided.
Let’s have a “persistence” and “goal-oriented” discussion instead.
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what is Japan? a first world country, what is Mexico? a developing one, that indicates what is more common in both, as a mexican woman living in Japan i know what i am talking about
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???
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There’s no point to her comment. She just saw an opportunity to talk about herself, A MEXICAN WOMAN LIVING IN JAPAN!
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What happened is that the Mexicana skewered your NAWALT fallacy.
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I think she has a point that might better position under the comment above here.
She implies on average Japanese have high IQ and Mexicans do not, and she says she’s Mexican.
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Awesome. PM me
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No, she actually does have a point.
see IQ and the wealth of nations.
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No, she really doesn’t. Had it not been for European intervention in Asia, you could expect their societies to be stuck in the seventeenth century. Europe dragged them kicking and screaming into the industrial age.
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Just like how European intervention in Africa had the same effect. Wait, what??
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Had nothing to do with IQ and everything to do with cultural values. East Asia didn’t not industrialize because they were stupid – Chinese and Japanese society were once the most advanced in the world – but because they didn’t care. Now that they have, they’re quite successful at it.
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@Patriarch
“Europe dragged them kicking and screaming into the industrial age.”
Exactly!
@RaconteMoi
You can’t compare Asia and Africa. Africa is not in the same league. There is no panacea that can help that continent.
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See “personal anecdotes do not constitute empirical evidence.”
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“IQ doesn’t correlate with success.”
It does if “success” means academic achievement, income, law-abidingness, etc.
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That says more about the flawed and iniquitous nature of society than anything else. “Success” shouldn’t be predicated upon one’s ability and willingness to submit to the deliberately demoralizing rituals incumbent to social climbing. Yeah, let me spend my prime working doubleplus hard to make my boss rich so that I can cling to the delusion that I might one day be in his shoes before I die of some degenerative prosperity disease. I may do so, but I hardly think that’s what makes me more deserving than those who are more proof against social expectations and misguided personal pride than I.
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“How many smart but lazy white guys do you know who end up evaporating their own talents at the bottom of a bong?”
You haven’t been paying attention. A lot of these guys are dropping out of a society that offers ever-diminishing returns to productive whites.
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It’s offering diminishing returns to EVERYBODY, bro. A dropping tide lowers all ships.
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But it has lowered the white guys so much more.
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This. I’m surprised (don’t know why) how little fact I find in comments here versus emotional drivel.
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I think success depends on group think or more generally culture. It depends on cooperation. High IQ whites are thwarted every step of the way by fiat money unless they are agents of the elite. Lowest commone denominator wins without free market discrimination and segregation.
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“One problem: IQ doesn’t correlate with success. ”
Yes, actually, it is heavily correlated with economic success. That was pretty much the main thing the data in The Bell Curve pointed towards; the high correlation between IQ and socio-economic outcomes.
It’s neither sufficient, nor necessary for success, but it’s a flat out lie to say it isn’t correlated.
“Look at your own lives.”
Fuck studies, let’s roll with anecdotes!
Again, having a high IQ is not a sufficient condition for success and no one in the dark enlightenment argues such. There can be a lot of high-IQ losers. It’s just that statistics would predict that a the proportion of high IQ people who happen to be losers will be (much) smaller than the proportion of low IQ people who are losers.
By the way, all the stuff you mentioned, like future-time-orientation is, surprise, highly correlated with IQ/general intelligence.
“Let’s have a ‘persistence’ and ‘goal-oriented’ discussion instead.”
I’d be down with this IFF it wasn’t often squid ink to obfuscate or move away from the issue of unequal allocation of innate cognitive abilities. It’s like fat acceptance people pointing out how BMI is not an end-all-be-all of health not out of the desire to spread the truth, but in order to move the discussion away from the 2-ton elephant in the room (them).
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Iq is easily quantifiable, that’s why it gets the attention. It’s used to prove statistically that races are inherently unequal, not as a cause for every success. Iq doesn’t determine fitness, only one type of strategy for fitness. Look at the cock roach. Not very intelligent. Very fit.
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Read this:http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html
It’s a short story by Kurt Vonnegut from 1961.
It addresses your concern.
The future eugenics wars are coming. The wild card will be smart robots, smarter than humans. This should happen within 60-80 years. It totally throws all concepts of demographic pre destiny out the window.
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I think it is funny most of the people attacking him are white people, just a funny observation. As a White, I don’t understand why Whites are the most adamant in denying differences between the races. Like not just adamant, but like if you diverge from the notion that race is just skin color and we are absolutely the same in every other way(denying genetic separation and evolution and natural over tens of thousands of years), they will yell at you and shame you with insults. The funny thing is, I brought this up with my mother and sister(big mistake bringing up politics to women). They go angry with higher pitched voices and drowned out reason and tried to shame me into their position of egalitarianism.
The funny thing is, I actually agree with the cultural marxists on one point, white privilege, well I guess white female privilege. Particularly my mom and sister, white blondes; they are literally one of the few groups that can skate through life with a lack of critical thinking or worldly perspective.
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As a White, I don’t understand why Whites are the most adamant in denying differences between the races.
Jews seem more adamant about denying race differences than Whites do.
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Because if you think otherwise, you must be a NAHT-ZEE.
I know for a fact that certain wealthy bankers funded Hitler and the NAHT-ZEE party, and I’m almost certain that the purpose was to make this kind of realistic thinking about race radioactive to the vast majority of whites.
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“… white female privilege.[…] they are literally one of the few groups that can skate through life with a lack of critical thinking or worldly perspective….”
and they are almost never accountable for anything.
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Like someone commented above. They are terrified of being inferior, because then they can’t blame their one failures on someone else. They would rather cling to the blank slate fallacy that reassures them from kindergarten on up that they can “be whatever they want to be”. Then, when the obvious truth rears its head, they can falsify it in their own minds.
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“As a White, I don’t understand why Whites are the most adamant in denying differences between the races.”
Because they’ve been brainwashed that we’re all the same. Even by looking at people in a nonscientific way, one can tell we are not all the same.
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“regarding the former, the thinking by leftoids would go like this:”
Straight Rousseau, French enlightment, and the general will, much beloved by Marx and Communists everywhere. For Rousseau, the basic reason for state control over the individual is that individuals are intrinsically unequal, in line with HBD thinking.
Individual inequality means that neither individual interests nor even the sum of individual interests can define the common interest that equally binds all, ie, the general will. All are obligated by citizenship to be loyal to and pay for the general will. The social contract is not between individual and sovereign, but collective and sovereign. Practically, he who defines and controls the general will has free hand to take freedom, property, even life from any individual who is in conflict with the general will.
It can happen – it is happening. We have been progressively departing from our English political heritage of individual rights and aligning with the Continental political tradition of the collective.
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How old is this blogger? There is no personal info about him on here..
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8, a boy genius.
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Oh everyone needs to stop with the cries of miscegenation! White men started it by spreading their seeds across every race. How do you think the Latin race was created?
I think miscegenation is fine as long as the right people get together.
This world is headed for a class separation not race. At least in America. there will be poor and rich classes. eventually no more middle class. That’s what so many people trying to hold onto racial politics fail to realize. It won’t hit those racial politic people until its too late for them to realize they’ve been duped.
The elite whites DO NOT CARE about the bulk of lower middle class/working class whites.
This is CLASS warfare not RACE people’s. Stop worrying about race and find a quality educated partner with skills to sustain the economy ahead that’s going to divide by class and not race.
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YKW get a taste of their own medicine
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/10/israel-police-guard-women-praying-at-jewish-site/
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[…] Chateau Heartiste: “What Will The World Look Like When (Not If) Equalists Accept HBD?” […]
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You guys this world and society is moving towards a class system not racial. Time to let go of the comfy blankie of race. Its no longer going to be the determining factor for much eventually.
What matters as we can see it starting now is CLASS. Elite Whites are allwoing these things to happen b/c *HELLO McFLY!!!* they do not care about RACE. Its about $$$ and keeping the rich richer.
They care nothing about the lower/middle/working class Whites. Yet these same groups (lower/middle/working class Whites) are still holding onto an outdated concept of race which will not save them.
Regarding miscegenation – White males started it decades and centuries ago – gte over it! People are going ot mix and have children with different races. If it wasn’t supposed to be that way then people of different races would not be able to procreate outside of thier race.
As long as humans have vaginas and penises they have the HUMAN RIGHT to use it how they please and with whomever they please without paranoid race obsessors trying to use scare tacticts to stop it.
If its in Gods will for me to have children it will most likely be children with a man of another race. Yes, I will be having children of mixed race and if anone has a problem with it then oh wells!!!!!!
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Your comment is so chock full of wrong that I thought it’d be a fun challenge to parse through it:
“society is moving towards a class system not racial” – WRONG. The two are totally intertwined.
“Elite Whites are allwoing these things to happen b/c *HELLO McFLY!!!* they do not care about RACE.” – One of the dumbest things I have ever read on this blog. First, they are not “whites” they are jews. Look up the names of ownership on all the largest, wealthiest banks and media companies. 90% or more jew-owned. They POSE as whites in order to sabotage Europeans. And, they are absolutely OBSESSED with race.
White males started miscegenation? It’s this kind of absurd remark vomited forth with zero supporting evidence that makes me wonder why I’m wasting my time. Exactly how did white males start miscegenation? The nappy-headed field mammies were just so sexy they couldn’t control themselves, right? LOL!!!
“As long as humans have vaginas and penises they have the HUMAN RIGHT to use it how they please and with whomever they please”
Jeez, I thought the stuff you said BEFORE that was retarded, but this really takes the cake. So if a guy wants to rape your grandma it’s ok because he has a penis and a human right. You are too stupid to live.
“If its in Gods will for me to have children it will most likely be children with a man of another race.”
And NOW we get to the real heart of the matter. You, being black and hypergamous, are naturally wishing to “marry up” which of course would mean marrying out of the black community. There is clear benefit to you in doing so, but there is absolutely NO benefit to any white man to have sex or procreate with you. NONE. You would merely drag the IQ of his offspring down by ten points, make his offspring less competitive in the world, and bring with you a whole family full of stressful negro pathology that would be put upon him. Why would you want to do all that to a man you claimed to love? But more importantly, why would you believe that just cause it benefits you to marry out of the black race, that everyone else should assume it would benefit them as well?
There is only one winner in interracial relationships: the darker one.
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I feel sorry for you. Stay with a White woman and worry about your own DICK. Thank you! 😀
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Hahaha that is her response to your post, Jim. After you literally spell it out for her she STILL thinks you are the one worth pitying. Yes, people like her are allowed to vote. Absolutely horrifying.
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For someone who talks about “God” alot, you certainly are well driven to talk about sexually immoral things every chance you get. Maybe I’m just not used to the typically vulgar female conversation typical of your kind. Yuck.
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A penis is “sexually immoral”? lol
And I’m not trying to impress you or any of the other RACE OBSESSED CRAZIES with no life on here. So, frankly my dear I don’t give a damn. Oops I said a curse word again – Oh i am going to hell!!!
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You should star in your own Tyler Perry movie. We couod call it “Diary of a hypocritical black woman.”
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That’s the worst part, Jim.Your articulate reasonable argument has fallen on dark ears. You might has well have just told a dog the secrets of superluminal travel. She isn’t capable of reasoning.
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“Yet these same groups (lower/middle/working class Whites) are still holding onto an outdated concept of race which will not save them.”
Bizarre claim. The working class isn’t fretting about race relations, they’re just punching the clock, getting stuck in traffic and making it home in time to watch Storage Wars.
“If it wasn’t supposed to be that way then people of different races would not be able to procreate outside of thier race.”
If I’m not supposed to rape and murder women, why am I physically capable of doing so?
“If its in Gods will for me to have children it will most likely be children with a man of another race. Yes, I will be having children of mixed race and if anone has a problem with it then oh wells!!!!!!”
Nobody gives a fuck about you personally, sweetheart, but best of luck all the same.
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Thanks for the well wishes!!! *MUAH*
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If I read this correctly you want to have sex with me, right?
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😛
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For those using IQ as some measuring tool to determine ” racial superiority” i sure would loooorve to see a study done with poor White trash and poor Ghetto Blacks to see what the big difference would be. LOL Prolly not much. but a study like that comparing oranges to oranges nad apples to apples would never happen. Hmm wonder why!
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There has already been such a study, and it proved that economic class has nothing to do with IQ – the poorest white kids still outperform the wealthiest black kids.
But I guess Google was too much of a challenge for you.
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They’ve compared the test scores of middle class and wealthy black children to those of poor white trash.
The poor white trash won..
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/testing.htm
Go away.
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I’m not reading all of that b/c i really don’t give a shit.
The point is, there are a NUMBER of factors that go into IQ and its not simply based on “racial superiority” *THAT* is my point. Now *YOU* can go away and take your statistics with ya babe! 😉
And BTW, how would you explain why Asians score higher than Whites in many areas of testing are they more superioir to Whites? or could it simply be that Asians succeed and score high in testing b/c from early childhood thier culture places a very high emphasis on learning and education.
I’ll be the first to admit that Blacks in general do not place high enough standards of education and learning and thus why many Black kids do fall behind when comapred to other races and cultures. Whites do a bette rjob at instilling education and learning than Blacks and Asins do it better than Whites.
Stupid people come in all races.
Also go find that study that shows that Black babies are smarter than White babies at infancy and childhood, and then later on when culture and other factors come into play the Whites may surpass. Please go look it up b/c I remember a studyt showing this.
The point is Blacks do not place high emphasis on learning, education and that is the reflection as to why Blacks kids will do more poorly than others. Blacks are not of a culture that prizes education and learning like that compared to Asians.
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“i sure would loooorve to see a study done with poor White trash and poor Ghetto Blacks”
“I’m not reading all of that b/c i really don’t give a shit.”
Whoa, what made you change your mind so fast dollface?
“I’ll be the first to admit that Blacks in general do not place high enough standards of education and learning and thus why many Black kids do fall behind when comapred to other races and cultures. Whites do a bette rjob at instilling education and learning than Blacks and Asins do it better than Whites.”
Do go on. I really enjoy the irony of you sharpening our point with your ignorance.
“Stupid people come in all races.”
You finally said something that made sense, but it wasn’t really necessary. The rest of your words was confirmation enough.
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Well all i can say is keep getting hard ons for IQ stats. We’ll see where that really gets you when the class warfare is in full force. No one cares about stupid IQ stats – what people care about now (at least those in charge) is creating the great divide between class. A person who scores low on IQ tests could just be a person who is bad with testing but great putting actual things into play to strengthenr their intelligence.
Intelligence is waaay too complex to simply be dwindled down to a stupid TEST of “intelligence”.
If all those poor White trash people who “scored higher” than educated Blacks were any proof of IQ not really meaning crap in the grand scheme of things, then I don’t know what else is proof.
The fact is if IQ were truly KING there should be no poor or middle class working Whites. All of you should be rich wealthy elites.
Show me a human being that doesn’t shit, bleed or need to breath air to live and then you can make a human superiority claim.
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“Well all i can say is keep getting hard ons for IQ stats.”
Actually, you were the one frothing at the vagina for IQ stats. Remember when you said this: “i sure would loooorve to see a study done with poor White trash and poor Ghetto Blacks”. Try to remember, it wasn’t that long ago.
“The fact is if IQ were truly KING there should be no poor or middle class working Whites. All of you should be rich wealthy elites.”
Nobody is claiming IQ is KING. Are you projecting again? That’s so cute.
“If all those poor White trash people who “scored higher” than educated Blacks were any proof of IQ not really meaning crap in the grand scheme of things, then I don’t know what else is proof.”
Then why bring it up, Neecy? Why bring it up?
You don’t have to answer that.
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you go girl, put the racists in place and i put the sexists in place, i bet men would be just about 10% stronger than us if they weren’t to the gym
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Hey Neecy, why don’t you go ahead and post this argument on your blog also…
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@ Patriarch – GREAT IDEA!! I think it would make a great topic on my blog! Thanks sweetie!
@ CRYO,
I’m not obsessed with race or IQ stats at all – at least when it comes to determining or making claims. I believe in being loyal to those who make a direct difference in my life in positive ways and who reciprocate.
i’ve learned a long time ago that blind loyalty based on race is a dangerous move, especially when i see how so many Black American women are suffering due to thier “blind race loyalty” to those (Black men) who could care less about them.
The same can be said of poor class and middle/working class Whites who continue to give blind loyalty to thier White elites who only use them for votes but when all is said and done are sticking it to them by allowing immigrants from every other country to come and take take take from thier own people.
the same can be said for how White men contineut to give blind loyalty to thier women by taking car eof them and doing right by them only to be spat on and treated like crap – yet all fo rht esake of “race loyalty” White men will turn themselves into pretzels just to accomodate White women despite how they treat you as a collective – all in the name of RACE.
At the end of the day when i die, my entire race will not be there, nor will they be taking care of my relatives or doing anything for me. i die alone as an individual and the only people that are going to care are the people in my life, my family and friends. That’s it. not the entire Black race.
I think it would serve White men to let go of this idea that someday White peoploe can live in thier own world with each other only and live happily ever after. That White women are going ot come around and “do right” by the WHit e race and stop all thier shennigans. Not going to happen b/c even if there were an only White nation, there are going to be many Whites who would soon become the “Blacks” of thier own race. kinda how the Irish were treated when coming to America and treated very poorly and seen as “trash” of the White race.
All i say is be careful what you wish for.
I don’t like the way immigration has occured int his country, but at the end of the day i see it for what it is – Elites and wealthy are benefiting and they call the shots. That is why nothing is being done about immigration despite how it displaces the natural born citizens in this country.
Everything now is about GREED and money and keeping it in the hands and pockets of the rich. its not about race anymore but people don’t want to accept that. *shrugs*
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God ur stupid
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There is a reason why rich whites engage in class warfare against poor whites. Poor whites are the only group intelligent enough to topple them, and have in the past in this country. The rich east-coast elites have had it up to here with being shown up by new-money bumpkins from flyover land, and have decided to use their declining wealth and prestige in a last ditch attempt to elect a new people. Poor and middle class whites have much higher numbers of high iq children than the rich elites. This inevitably bubbles to the surface and in a free society they inevitably displace the privileged but less fit children of the elite.
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Rich east white banker types have nighmares about potential Huey Longs and Andrew Jacksons. They want to eliminate the possibility more could arise. However, in doing so they will create something far worse.
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cryo
“i sure would loooorve to see a study done with poor White trash and poor Ghetto Blacks”
“I’m not reading all of that b/c i really don’t give a shit.”
Whoa, what made you change your mind so fast dollface?
””””””’
lol
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yes, and remenber we women aren’t much weaker than men, the thing is men put much emphasis in go to the gym, if we girls go to gym more often, i am pretty sure we would be almost equal to them..
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This video by Cryo should be posted in response to anything further posted by the tequila flavored sushi.
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spin hamster spin.
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“Better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” (attributed to Lincoln, Twain, and others)
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As a woman in the military, no.
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You are wrong, men have higher levels of muscle building hormones such as GH and testosterone:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
“On average, in adult human males, the plasma concentration of testosterone is about 7–8 times as great as the concentration in adult human females’ plasma,[6] but as the metabolic consumption of testosterone in males is greater, the daily production is about 20 times greater in men.”
Then there is also that mens builds are more suited for “strength” and athletics.
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“… that study that shows that Black babies are smarter than White babies at infancy and childhood, … ”
Chimpanzees are also smarter than human babies in the first few months. They learn more quickly and make more progress. ( I don’t have a link but this a well known fact )
It means nothing.
in the end it is not chimpanzees who once they become adults invent rockets, computers and do heart transplants.
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Sure. Don’t let data and facts get in the way of your conclusions, Neecy.
Nice chimpout, btw.
Imagine, fellow readers, having an ignorant hostile negress hussy promoted to rule over you as boss just because of her skin color and general ignorance. The day is coming.
You, Neecy, are the best example of why whites don’t want to have to put up with blacks. Thank you for posting here to serve and such a prime example of innate ghetto tendencies and overall lack of higher mental functions.
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Translation: Don’t confuse me with the facts; I can’t handle them and will continue to parrot my word salad (i.e. the language of a pseudo-educated negro).
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Haha, did you just tl;dr a scientific study that disproves you? LOLOZOZOZLOZLZOL!111!1!!1!1
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I’m not reading all of that b/c i really don’t give a shit.
And this, my friends, is the bottom-line… in a nutshell.
They demand facts, and when you actually take the time to provide them, they either shoot out squid ink to muddy the waters or do the mental equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting “LA LA LA LA”.
Which is why I seldom do fuck all but poke ’em and joke ’em around here anymore.
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Already been done many years ago by Dr. Audrey Shuey. – Shuey, Audrey M. (1966). The Testing of Negro Intelligence (2nd ed.). New York: Social Science Press.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Shuey
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If all races are equal, then why have blacks in Africa never ever invented a written language?
They have been around for at least 150 thousand years and they never came up with a written language.
But there was no white man “keeping them down”
If Africa is a large Ghetto, then who created this ghetto?
It was not white man.
So what is your explanation?
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The “Flynn effect” posits rising IQ scores across all groups. For example, the average black IQ in 1995 is the same as the average white IQ in 1945. Which makes sense given relative social standing.
I met a lot of guys in the military with low IQ scores, like 75 GT scores who did not seem too bad to me.
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The Flynn effect is hollow.
http://menghusblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/is-the-flynn-effect-on-g-a-meta-analysis/
http://menghusblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/flynn-effect-no-g-te-nijenhuis-et-al/
http://menghusblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/reversal-of-the-flynn-effect/
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I agree, but they were dumb as rocks and it was obvious whose GT score was 110 or above and whose wasn’t.
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All of you need to seriously get a LIFE!! I cannot imagine what life must be like for so many of you paranoid race obsessors. LOL There is NADA you can do about other people’s choices. but what you can do is LEAVE and go create your own Pure White countries if you wish and leave everyone else the hell alone to LIVE and LET LIVE.
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Not long ago we did have [mostly] pure white countries. They were cleaner, safer, friendlier, had better economies and job markets much of the time, had vastly better educational systems, and less degraded cultures.
The goal is not to leave and create them elsewhere, but to recreate them where they already were.
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Ah, I suppose that France circa 1790 is your idea of the promised land. Or perhaps Prussia circa 1918. Or perhaps Poland during the 150 years it couldn’t exist. Or perhaps dirt-poor Andalusia in the 19th century. Or maybe Russia for virtually all of its history.
Lands of plenty. Sure.
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From the Congress of Vienna on, Europe’s standard of living advanced considerably. Germany before 1914 was a good place to live, among the best in the world. Poland was divided up among three well run nations and it generally experienced peace and growing living standards during those 150 years. All of the Enlightened Absolutist regimes did their best to improve life. I think most American lefties secretly want exactly that, where a fantasy leader takes wise counsel from a priestly class who carefully weigh moral and economic considerations, but tilt to the moral, and that fantasy leader then makes wise patriarchal rules by fiat that Socialist International would approve of.
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You don’t need miscegenation to raise the IQ of minorities. Take a smart minority like Cory Booker, mayor of Newark. Pick the smartest 20-something year old black woman in Newark, and pay her $10k to get impregnated with his sperm. Do the same with the smartest 20-something black women in every major city in the country. And do the same with other 130+ IQ black men.
Then take the lowest scoring high school sophomore girls in Newark, say, the bottom 20%. Pay them $10k to get Norplant. Offer them another $10k to get another round of Norplant when the first runs out, and so on.
Do that nationally, and within a generation or two, African Americans will be a lot smarter. This doesn’t require any fancy science either, it’s just common sense and incentives, and the understanding that intelligence is largely hereditary.
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doesn’t work like that. raising iq requires thousands of years of isolation.
High iq black man, high iq black wife= medain iq kids.
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Cory Booker is half Ashkenazi. This is your best example of an intelligent black man?
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What about Curious george?
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Well as long as we’re going to get nerdy here, a well respected “futurist” (too lazy to cite) who has been pretty darn close with computer predictions for the past twenty years, predicts the first computer to surpass human brain power will be created within ten years.
The interesting thing about this, is that as computers become more powerful, they will begin to disappear from the form we know them as. We will begin integrating them in a way I don’t think anyone can predict, with the human form. No matter how much we deviate from the human norm, the majority will adhere to some sort of bipedal template resembling human, maybe.
As technological advancements are exponential, there will come a point where growth may leave an entire generation behind. I’m talking thirty somethings here. I expect a massive uprise in religion and socially conservative communities. People who may embrace smartphones and space travel, but reject any genetic engineering and transhumanism.
To think, scientists are having a hard time defining life right now with prions and virion. Shit’s about to get surreal.
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Excellent point. We are on the verge of a revolution in science in many fields-3d printing for instance, growing replacement organs from stem cells, genetic engineering, genetic cures for disease, self driving cars, etc. It will create revolutionary change in society as well and perhaps render many if not most of them moot..
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Another conservative clueless poseur pontificator. I don’t think you got the memo, but communism killed 100MM in the 20th century. banning DDT clocked another 100MM. Take the hint.
So… either the status whoring, sermonizing Cathedral is going to WAKE THE FUCK UP and do an about face as they discard their cherished pretty lies, or the ropes are going to grow in number and creak ever louder as they swing from the gallows waiting for justice.
1) they’ll never do an “about face” regardless of what happens.
2) there is no justice. the “universe is indifferent”
2) they will never hang from gallows. society will never figure out their culpability. they will die convinced of their rightness.
If that were to happen, all bets are off. A healthy civilization can only sustain so much delusion, weaseling, sophistry and lies from its ruling class before the whole thing implodes as the rickety foundation gives under the weight of its prettifying ornamentation.
3) they will be smirking as they see it all go down in flames. lots of late imperial societies get masochistic. they don’t care about society or they want it destroyed. either way, you don’t get it. The Byzantines got slammed by Islam, we got it by Cultural Marxism. Obama’s hero Saul Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan. This wasn’t aloof asshole posing, but a spiritual expression.
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The time has come – Newest Honorary Manosphere Member Donald J. Trump –
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7 May “@ChrisCJackson: @realDonaldTrump I’m pretty sure your wife is cheating on you at this exact second.” Sorry, no-one else can satisfy her!
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Wrong, Jon Stewart(?) is an obnoxious lightweight with a lower I.Q.
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Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure,it’s not your fault
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26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?
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If Jon Stewart is so above it all & legit, why did he change his name from Jonathan Leibowitz? He should be proud of his heritage!
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“Always get even. When you are in business, you need to get even with people who screw you.” – Think Big
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Remember Copernicus? Remember Galileo? Remember Darwin? Remember all the controversy that surrounded them, and other scientists who put forth new theories that nearly cost those scientists their careers but were vindicated years later?
My prediction: Chinese or Asian studies like that one that’s testing 2000 students will be part of a theory of inherited intelligence, and since the authors will be Asian and not White, the theories will be accepted. If the authors of these current studies and The Bell Curve weren’t White, the MSM wouldn’t have such a big problem with them.
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Remember Copernicus? Remember Galileo? Remember Darwin? Remember all the controversy surrounding them during their careers because what they said upset the status quo?
Time will show us the answer.
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sorry I’m late but…
A few years back I read that educated, successful, that means working, Black women were lamenting the fact that they couldn’t find educated Black men to marry (or date) and so many of them had decided to date across the color line.
I think they called it “marrying down” or “settling”. This phenomena was making the rounds of liberal magazines and probably Oprah too.
This lack of productive, educated Black men was cited as a harbringer of bad things to come to the “Black Race” in America.
Comments?
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Unfortunatley too many Black women who are smart and educated are like the tons of blindly loyal Whites who believe that race trumps all things. That is going to be the downfall for the majority of Black women. because many are marrying down and settling for Black males that are not as intelligent, educated and that does have an effect on kids and such.
However the good news is, There are a growing number of BW who see things for what its worth. That marrying across the color lines with equally yoked or better yoked males of different races and cultures who make better fathers and husbands are the best way for thier future offspring to survive and thrive.
there are tons of really intelligent BW who should be having children that aren’t b/c the options for Black males are pretty low for the pickings. Educated, smart, intelligent BW who would make great mothers are encouraged to date any old Black man for the sake of race loyalty.
Smarter young Black women in their 20’s and 30’s who are at the height of fertility and marraige ages see the bigger picture are dating and seeking men of other races. This is th eonly way Black women can survive.
there will be no Black race eventually b/c the bottom feeders are going to do away with themselves and the idiotic BW who had the opportunites to date and marry and pro create with men of other races to keep her lineage going will die childless. The rest will have mixed offspring and studies show that women who date/marry across cultural/racial lines tend to go with the male of that race/culture in terms of belief and values.
I’m rambling. just got back from the movies. lol
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Well, now it’s called “swirling”, and strangely, there is a kind of a mini movement. I came out against this movement a long time ago, and recently had to refresh that because it wasn’t clear enough that though I don’t oppose intercultural relationships, I don’t encourage them as a generally good idea either. So many things can and do often go wrong.
There is no shortage of productive, educated African American men, at least no more of a shortage than there has always been. One just has to not be a bitch to get one. The hard part is, of course, keeping him while the entire culture around him is telling him that you are dirt and the lowest a man with options can aspire to, regardless of how feminine and faithful you are. They are sometimes just as vulnerable as European American men to the social programing.
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Black women are ugly and smelly. I didn’t need cultural programming to tell me that.
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Such a valiant white knight…
Did typing that get a random hot “white” woman to get on her knees and suck your cock?
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I love when you type “white” in parentheses. So typical of a product of todays academia, believing there is no inherant value in racial pride and cultural perpetuation. Tell me, how long have you been a Marxist? Is it always this difficult to awaken the masses to class warfare?
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Wouldn’t a person being a marxist mean that they were pointedly aware of class warfare?
Your veiled namecalling and lying fools nobody but yourself and those at an equally low level of awareness.
People like you are one reason I still have an actual dilemma about attempting to liberate anyone. You don’t seem to want it, and therefore don’t seem to be worth it.
You’re what Nietzsche would call a failure of will to power. Why should I care about your freedom when you don’t?
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Yes, being a Marxist is believing in a struggle between classes, something you have been brainwashed by. The myth of a coming class war is perpetuated by those highranking elite s you’ve been duped into believing are powerful white men. They’re Jews. The real slave drivers, and you’ve been bought and payed for if you believe what they’re handed you. It’s the same people who have you believing White Nationalists need changing, like we’re out to enslave the world. Jewish projection. They’re out to enslave the world. We want to be left the hell alone.
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Way to twist the meaning of Nietzche there Nicole…you wouldn’t know liberation if it dragged you around by the hair of your head. The Ashkinazi have this one bought and paid for.
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Patty, why would you think that I thought any better of the Ashkenazim here than I do of generic “white” people in the U.S?
The only thing they really have on you at this point is that they haven’t given up the name of their actual ethnicities. I’m not sure if this is because of them or because the Slavic people they look down on refuse to fully assimilate and be absorbed into them. Still, they are the “white” people of Israel, and have become more crippled with decadence in 10 years than it took you to become in centuries.
So I might even think less of those under 45 or so than I think of the generic sellouts and slackers in the States.
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Claiming that “white” isn’t an ethnical denonym is a tactic plain and simple. Under your foolish logic then there is no such thing as a black either. More division from the liars hellbent on degrading and erasing the culture they feverishly wish to emulate. The white Jews you claim who still hold to their ethnicity are the most mongrelized of them all. Their willingness to interbreed and culturally adapt is the reason why this silly group of slavs condemns anyone who questions the validity of their semitism. Anyone who isn’t brainwashed understands they are Jewish in name and practice only.
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Careful, your Marxism is showing. It must be quite a difficult place inside your head. On one hand you must support egalitarianism. On the other you crave to be dominated by the strongest of men while the self identification centers of your brain maks you favor your own kind. Add to that the loyalty of the doctrine of your current man…what a mess.
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Patty, my “own kind” are not who you might be thinking they are. I have no conflicts when it comes to this.
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You can self identify however you want. Just don’t knock our self identification.
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Patty, if you are not a liberal or blank slatist, you shouldn’t have a problem with knocks to multikulturalism. Who your Ancestors were is as relevant to who and what you are now as mine are to who and what I am now. If you do not know the specific ethnicities of those people, you have no real idea what you are, and no way of knowing how that influences who you are. To call yourself by a color instead of at least a continent is a cop out or an attempt at a kind of historical rewrite or masking to convince you to support things that are against your interests.
I have been very clear that I do not think that is is a good idea for anyone to identify themselves politically or ethnically by a color. Anyone. That includes Africans.
You are looking for holes and discrepancies where there are none.
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You do realize when we say “White” we aren’t just referring to pale skin and eyes, right?
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Patty, I know exactly what you mean. I just don’t see it as a healthy of affirming practice.
I am not going to see it as healthy or affirming just because many people do it, especially when it ultimately weakens them.
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This guy has a ‘feeder fetish’
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That is disgusting.
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I’d hit it…..
With a pickup truck.
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But she’s “white” and therefore “racially valuable”. You should be trying to save her like…Captain Save-a-hoe.
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More projection of racial irrelevance from the racially irrelevant…
Your inclination towards the significance of class versus genetic preservation is betraying your hatred of yourself, sweetheart.
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I don’t need racial relevance. I have personal, and by extension, social and genetic relevance in a way that you wouldn’t understand and probably aren’t ready to discuss. You’d accuse me of being a eugenicist.
Why should I seek relevance in merely being born when I can be relevant for actually accomplishing things?
If you are so superior, why are you not more invested in actually being superior rather than trying to convince someone you don’t know on the internet who has an actual identity and is seen actually doing something for her world to combat feminism and other stupidity, that you are superior to them?
Show me your superiority, Patty. Show me how many people you have saved from being dumb bitches, slackers, and otherwise wastes of oxygen.
As it is, if things do hit the fan, I will still be a leader, or at least among the leaders, and you will still be a follower trying to convince yourself that you are superior to me because you are pale.
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LULZ
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This is why I call you Pattycakes. All gums and no gumption.
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Heh, heh… call me Ishmael… a picture of Nicole in bizarro world.
I’d hit it… so long as she didn’t spew NoEcole’s Babble-On Marxist bullshit.
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Ive never seen someone try to mix neo pagan bullshit with Marxism and Nieztchean eugenics. She is either the cleverest and most determined of trolls or she is literally batshit crazy hahaha
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I’ve long-suspected some cog-dis trollery from whoever stands behind the curtain of her alleged person.
But at the end of the day, I just chalk her up to a big-mouthed Negress who, like the majority of her ilk, when they exhibit a modicum of reading ability and fancy themselves intelligent, are just enamoured with the sound of words, moreso than their actual meaning.
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“But at the end of the day, I just chalk her up to a big-mouthed Negress who, like the majority of her ilk, when they exhibit a modicum of reading ability and fancy themselves intelligent, are just enamoured with the sound of words, moreso than their actual meaning.”
Change the word “Negress” to “neo-Nazi”, and you’re looking in a mirror, pal.
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Hahaha! Look at Jason defending her now…he’s trying to “get at her” as those hip jive turkeys like to say. Be honest Jason. Where did you steal that computer from.
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Patty, Jason isn’t defending me. He’s defending European people who actually want to be something more than pathetic whiners who blame everyone but themselves for their predicament.
Still, he’d make a better defender than Greg. You should watch your back around him because one minute he’ll be patting you on your back, doling out social brownie points for standing up for your right to whine against the evil darkness of my satanic nietzschean jungleness. The next minute he will be claiming that I’m unfairly calling him a racist for doing that.
See, that’s the problem with being a crybaby. You think everybody who tells you to butch up is a bully, and will take the chloroformed handkerchief of any bugger who wipes your tears.
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Alphie-who-loves-to-snark to the rescue… followed by tarbaby crying about cry babies.
Wake up to yourselves… lest the comedy continues to write itself and becomes a farce.
Whoops… to late… loozozllzozozlzlzozozlzlzlzl.
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Impulse control, Greg.
…or are you starting to understand what I said about men and civilization?
I may be crazy, but I’m still right.
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Greg, if you knew the story that features the tarbaby, you would know why I’m laughing right now.
Get ahold of yourself, man. I’m a fat, dark skinned, older lady which, by the standards here at the Chateau, makes me sexually worthless. I kinda count on that to be able to discuss issues around gender relations without being coddled or humored.
Your pigtail pulling and ink well dipping is bad for my image. Someone might start to think I was attractive enough to induce madness or somesuch.
Now run along.
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Tsk tsk…can’t even be true to your own word.
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Nicole, no one in their right mind blames white people problems (liberalism, feminists etc.) on anyone but white people. Minorities are an entirely seperate problem unto itself.
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Try a cement mixer.
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Something y’all might want to keep in mind before thinking that acceptance of HBD will be any kind of salvation for “white” people:
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As a native of Louisiana, I can tell you: the swamp won’t save the negroes. They swim poorly and are afraid of snakes. This video makes a very big deal out of what amounted to swatting flies for the army. I think following up with how the Black Seminoles fared out west after they were removed would be fun. Hint: They fared poorly.
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What part of Louisiana? I’m about 10 miles outside of Red Stick.
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Born in Lafourche Parish, raised partially in Thibodaux and New Orleans.
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My parents lived in New Orleans when I was young. We later moved to Denham Springs where I currently reside. It’s quiet out towards the direction of Walker. The right side of the tracks man.
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I got my dog in Denham Springs.
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When I was in college, I worked in Gonzalez, too. Livingston represent.
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I just realized Gonzalez is in Ascension.
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Haha yeah we aren’t very far at all. It’s quiet out here but times are changing. It’s vastly different from when I was a kid. A quick trip to whole foods in Baton Rouge reveals the impending liberal encroachment. I went there to look around as I had never been there. Twenty minutes from home and I felt as though I were in an alien culture.
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My point is that African Americans will essentially be the army. The U.S. government is made up of the elites, and they will basically rally the minorities (who will likely not be the minority by that time) against those they perceive to be a threat to their loot. That would be any armed “white” people who refuse to bow to the new order.
They can do that because currently, you are too wrapped up in your delusions to band with other activists against tyranny. You’re fighting for a back door…online anyway. No idea if you’re butched enough to do much else, and seriously doubting it.
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Right now the job at hand is to try and wake White people out of the dream-state that precedes slaughter. I’m personally not opposed to allying with anyone in order to stop it…the problem is there is nobody to ally with. They all want us dead. So, it’s an “ourselves alone” situation. If we’re too fucking weak and stupid to wake up and stop coddling black criminals and shitting out mulatto babies, then we deserve to be the next Neanderthals. Only nobody left behind will be bright enough to study our bones.
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You won’t solve your problem at the same level of awareness at which it was created.
Even those in most “black nationalist” groups don’t want you dead. They just want you not trying to murder or enslave them just because they’re of African ancestry.
In your new awakening to your status as brainwashed useful idiots, the writings of many African American writers may be useful to you. Even if you have a problem allying with the live people at this point, you should at least read some of what they read to free their minds.
Don’t think for a minute that drugs and other criminal operations were not planted in your communities too. African Americans, to a large degree, were socially experimented on to learn ways to keep you under control, and keep your nonconformists visible.
Gun nut = hood gangster. 😉
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Who needs slaves to be bright?
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Well, civilization builders did at one time, I guess. Leisure time to compose clavichord concertos, etc. But hindsight makes clear that no amount of agricultural wealth or any other of the trappings of gentility was worth the embodied destruction that the freed slave descendants have meant for the U.S. in general and the South in particular.
We toyed with nature and have been made to pay the price. We will either set things right or be steamrolled by own own folly, past and present.
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Like with feminism, once certain Pandora’s boxes have been opened, there is no way to close them again. One has to fight the demons one by one with inferior tools because the “gods” who once reined things in have left you to pay the consequences.
Colonialism without mass chattel slavery would have been a better idea for northern Europe as it turns out. You could have foreseen what the potential consequences would be from the Spanish. By then there was enough exchange of information to make some abolitionists from day one, some because they did not believe that slavery belonged in the “land of the free”, and others because they could see what the result would be in the long term, of mass importing and breeding of a different looking slave class.
If the only Africans who came to north America did so voluntarily, it would be a whole other ballgame, but now you’ve got generations of people, some of whom are from lines of slaves thousands of years long, who don’t know how to behave without a whip. Then you have others with socially fit ancestors who were forced into slavery, who are pissed off.
I’d say you were in a pickle.
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Don’t you worry your pretty little head, Nicole. There is more white resistance out there than you’re aware of. You see, far from your afrocentral wet dream of a United States ran by blacks nobly hunting down rebellious whites who refuse to submit, the reality is going to be more akin to a third world hellhole resembling Africa. If comes to that, it will be easy pickings for a select few racially aware white individuals to set up a state of their own amid the carnage. The Pacific northwest for example is climatically similar to Europe with grazing and farmland. We don’t need to fight tyranny. We just need to simply outlast the temporary assumption of power by those who are literally incapable of self preservation. Africa sustains the population it has only by outside (read Western) monetary input. How many typical minorities in the United States or white liberals do you think are truly capable of self sustinence? What happens when it all comes crashing down, Nicole? In the end, we will be there, like always to pick up the pieces of a shattered civilization and rebuild. I know all of this is scary for your kind. First time through the ups and downs of empire building can be a little exciting, a little frightening… as long as White people who are racially aware exist to bide their time until it’s the hour to make our move you need not worry about us going extinct. It would be best you turn your attention to your own kind who have gotten used to the privilege and pandering, the handouts and the companionship because if your liberals have their say, this nation is headed for a quick collapse.
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But the “white resistance” is obviously not you, Patty.
Even if you do manage to nut up if “your people” decide they’d rather have respect than refrigeration, at the end of it all, you will still be a slave because you don’t have the perspective to be otherwise.
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Ok, crazy lady.
By the way I read your posts imagining that you sound like Miss Cleo the Tarot Reader, adds to the mystery of your secret gnosis.
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Don’t worry Nicole. The longer these “elite blacks” and their white liberal enablers stay in power is all the quicker their liberal spending and policies bring us closer to a point of collapse. If and when the United States collapses, who do you believe is going to be able to survive, Nicole? Are all the inner city youths having been raised on a steady diet of entitlement and rap music going to suddenly pick up farming and animal husbandry? Are their white liberal handlers going to fair any better? Your afrocentric fantasy of a black run and black powered country is laughable. The moment it becomes a third world nation and millions upon millions starve, white nationalists will have an easy time establishing their own state. Oh you’ll beg for assistance. Beg to be let inside the gates as an escape to the black hellhole wilderness of rape and murder and cannibalism outside, but no sactionary will be found. You see Nicole, we don’t have to defeat anti white liberal marxist egalitarianism at the polls, we simply have to outlast it and let it run it’s unnatural course. People like you and Neecy fail to remember how this nation operates off of the taxes of those who produce. Welfare checks are not written by the welfare fairy. Once the parasites exceed the blood supply, it’s going to be a completely different ballgame.
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That’s it Nicole. Somehow they will overcome their ghetto fabulous antics and unite to form a coalition government capable of hunting down unrepentant white nationalists and bringing them to justice…. Tell me where the funding for this dark army is going to come from.
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I have been to the wilderness, Patty, and survived. I can walk through any hood at night alone, and they don’t bother me because they know I’m crazier than they could ever wish to be. I do not fear prison because I do not fear death, and dead I would be because I would die before I let them put me in a cage. If I was faced with multiple armed opponents, and there was no way out for me, I would be dead before they could do whatever it was they planned. They wouldn’t get but exact change for whatever it was I was out for, or nothing, and if the idea was rape, I’d hope they enjoyed headless or at least throat hole necrophilia.
Here in Israel, I have been in five fist fights with men because people here don’t recognize the cues of crazy, but they learned from me.
…but that’s me. I suppose you wouldn’t understand the idea of death before dishonor. You spend reams of text dishonoring yourself and vomiting this sickening stench of weakness all over those you claim are your people. You sicken me like so-called black activist who beg the government, police, or anyone else to have mercy on them or allow them things. You beg for respect rather than earning it, ironically unaware that it is the begging that assures you will never get it.
Your utopian dreams have proven time and again to be unsustainable and a guarantee of corruption, decay, and decadence, and yet you still cling to them. You are the old order. There is a reason they died out. They died out because their system could not stand the test of time or of the will. Even if you collect all the crybabies into one state or region and close the gates, within those gates will be rot like you couldn’t dream in your worst nightmares.
The first time you would have to deliver one of your daughters to the breeding center to be matched with someone you don’t even know, or when you would be sterilized because despite your paleness, you carry a trait for a disease or anything else that has been deemed undesirable, you will understand.
So honestly, I hope you get what you think you want. People like me thrive in the jungle and wither in a cage. People like you die in the jungle and wither in the cage, but believe with all your hearts that your ability to wither longer in cages makes you superior.
Good luck. 🙂
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lmao warpig. You junglebunnies love to pretend how tough you are…when time after time, facing organize non-black resistance, your faggy men cry and run away, whilst your aunt jemimas bow down and worship their new non-black massas.
In short, wrpig: you are wrong. Your people are stupid, weak, cowardly, and uncivilized. The only “victories” you get are when people’s backs are turned.
Can’t wait for the Mexicans to exterminate you.
You fail. Just like your did with your marriage. 🙂
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Neecys view of the world reminds me of that smug self righteous attitude you pick up on in one of Tyler Perrys drama fests. A Celebration of upper middle class black culture thats hints at the trashy ghetto just waiting to be unleashed the minute someone dares to disagree. Sheltered and spoiled, cowardly and privileged, arrogant and ignorant. For all of her ranting against white culture you can rest assured she only dates white men and most certainly wouldn’t be caught dead or alive in the ghetto.
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Tyler Perry is an hilarious figure. A purveyor of black middle brown drama, he nonetheless realizes that any black success depends on constant re-guilting of whites, so he always makes sure “blame whitey” and “the oppression and the struggle” are imprinted on his movies and is persona.
True story: he once made an illegal turn in Atlanta, the police pulled him over, and he blamed the police for pulling him over despite admitting that, yes, he did do something illegal and worth pulling over.
The nigger hamster is second only to the female hamster. Figures: their men are pussy-ass little crybaby boys.
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by the way everyone, if all of you wanna japanese products, please tell me and contact me in my facebook or youtube channel, thanks
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GBFM
Behold the visualization of the shrinking dollar!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-10/visualizing-shrinking-dollar
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Preening status-whoring leftists already behave as if they believe HBD, as we all know, which is why they’re known as DWLs, disingenuous white liberals. So now imagine a world where DWLs may openly acknowledge their beliefs not merely in action, but in words too. I predict they’ll continue to live in their Whiteopias, continue to flagellate themselves for how white and non-vibrant they and their communities/cities are (even when real estate is practically free in ultra-vibrant cities like Detroit), and continue to support neverending gimmedats and set-asides for brownfolk. The only difference will be the rationale for such policies: it’ll be similar to neverending State care for retards and congenital cripples: they can’t help themselves; they’re genetic losers; and we must pay for them to exist, cradle to grave, botched 3rd-trimester abortion to assisted suicide, because to do anything less would be inhumane. I mean, like, these are human beings, you know.
All this talk about forced eugenics will not happen, but miscegenation will become the norm because the internets and the TVs tell whitewomen they should be with a brownman, and whitewomen will obey, QED (see: John Boehner’s daughter, et al).
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Gimmedats… the word of the day, children.
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How can liberals believe in evolution but not HBD?
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Ha. Good one. To top it off, Darwin himself was really interested in HBD.
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Evolution is their creation story. it happened long, long ago and far away but then mysteriously stopped because they said so. Amen.
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They only believe in science when it supports their position, because they believe in their position, not in science. Science is a tool.
If Stephen Hawking came out tomorrow and said he’d found definitive proof of the existence of God, the good little lefties would be sending him death threats.
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“If Stephen Hawking came out tomorrow and said he’d found definitive proof of the existence of God, the good little lefties would be sending him death threats.”
So true.
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The same reason don’t believe in evo psych or social darwinism
(Because it’s not nice)
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So…even if we accept the premise of HBD (highly debatable) and further accept the premise that race-based differences in IQ are accurately determined by IQ tests (also highly debatable) the suggested policies are nonsensical.
Depending upon which study you choose, the average difference between white Americans and African Americans (let’s be honest, that’s what you’re really interested in, right?) is about tenish points. That’s not the difference between a Nobel Prize winner and a middle school dropout; it’s more like the difference between a bartender and a Starbucks barista. It’s simply not much.
And yet, the approach you deem a logical and pragmatic response to this essentially minor divergence features eugenics and the promotion of inequality. The reaction is ludicrously out of proportion to the “problem” it’s attempting to confront.
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“That’s not the difference between a Nobel Prize winner and a middle school dropout; it’s more like the difference between a bartender and a Starbucks barista. It’s simply not much.”
In the aggregate, it’s a big deal, as it would serve to explain a lot of the disparity in outcome between groups.
And ten to fifteen points of IQ can be a big deal. It can be the difference between practicing safe sex, following doctor’s orders, being safe on the job, delaying gratification in favor of greater future-time prosperity,and so on. When this is on a scale of millions of people, all those points can be the difference between a cleaner, safer, more harmonious, and more forward-thinking society and, uh, Detroit.
Intelligence isn’t just about jobs, bub, it’s about how people live their whole lives.
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And here’s the one intelligent comment I came here looking for.
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Did it feel good to get that off your chest? Warm, self righteous feeling followed after? Go back to sleep.
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If you don’t think IQ tests can determine IQ, what do you think can?
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“GLPiggy commenter “lords of lies” wonders what America would look like if the Cathedral finally realized the truth of HBD.”
Did it ever occur to you that the elite might know “the truth of HBD” perfectly well? Perhaps even better than you?
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Someone gets it. 🙂
The elite already know the truth, and they are using it to control people of every ethnicity already.
Free your mind or fall in the trap.
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Interesting article — http://realdoctorstu.com/2011/07/11/the-iq-myth-and-its-fascist-origins-just-how-intelligent-are-you/
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So what you’re saying is that if we did start sterilization by IQ, that even if there was enough alcohol in the world, the racetards wouldn’t breed.
Where did I put my rubber gloves?
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The reason that for the furor: “IQ and Immigration Policy — Richwine provided statistical evidence that HISPANIC IMMIGRANTS, even after several generations, had lower IQs than non-Hispanic whites.”
Essentially, this guy was trying to suggest that MEXICANS are a burden on the ‘collective intelligence’ of the USA, and as such, this should be a key factor in the current Immigration Reform debate.
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The leftist worship of niggerdom is all-inclusive: if it turns out that racism isn’t holding them down, they will deny it to the end, and then abruptly switch to yelling that niggers are so disadvantaged, they deserve free everything to make their feral lives better.
It was so much better with Jim Crow. I think the Mexifornians will bring it back, god willing.
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Everytime a liberal gives a handout to a minority he is effectively saying “take ye this gift, beast, for thine own lot in life be the accursed of mind and the lot of ineptitude. ” Don’t point and stare, Timmy. It isn’t his fault he’s blacktarded.”
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So we want smarter women, when all the women who consider themselves to be smart want nothing to do with child-rearing and motherhood? And for the ones that do, won’t hypergamy still kick in, and they won’t be able to meet a man who’s IQ is higher enough to be considered for marriage? Does that seem like a potential problem to anyone else?
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I don’t think there is any natural way of creating a situation where there are more XXs on the high end of the bell curve than XYs because part of what makes men more and more severely overrepresented at the high and low ends of the IQ spectrum is that they have more chances to express recessive traits on the X chromosome, which gives them more variation.
Even if we forcibly mated a bunch of high IQ women with low IQ men, the subsequent generation would likely follow the same pattern we already observe with women’s IQs clustering slightly closer to the mean.
High IQ women should always easily be able to find higher IQ men, if that’s what they want. High IQ women should always be inherently out numbered.
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High IQ women should always easily be able to find higher IQ men, if that’s what they want. High IQ women should always be inherently out numbered.
Even better, if more high-IQ men were like, say, Richard Feynman rather than semi-spergish herbs. But your point is well taken.
On the left end of the bell curve, meanwhile, dumbasses and stupid bitches hook up based on raw masculine traits, since the male tail extends out further that way too. lzolzozlzozl
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“Does that seem like a potential problem to anyone else?”
Yes, but it’s old news:
“Are women’s colleges breeding unintelligence by sterilizing intelligence? Is college feminism attacking the American home by boring from within? Is it leading a sexual rebellion among the selected best feminine brains?[ … ]
Turn it about as you will, personal ambition is the friend of efficient fatherhood and the enemy of efficient motherhood. That is inescapable. [ … ]
If now we compare some of the achieving women of pre-college days, with those of today, we find that Mrs. Harriet Beecher Stowe, Mrs. Louis Agassiz, Mrs. Bronson Alcott Pratt and Mrs. Julia Ward Howe, (to take names at random) not only attained distinction in their own persons, but have in all cases left lineal descendants who are leaders, and people of whom America may well be proud. For the most part, it seems, these ladies worked at home. And in the midst of grinding work and anxiety, Mrs. Stowe could write, ”My children I would not change for all the ease, leisure and pleasure that I could have without them.” How out-of-date this sounds in 1929! What would have been the result had these noble women gone to a modern woman’s college? It seems to me incontestably better for the nation that the family lines of such brilliant people should not only be preserved but strengthened. The cultural treasures received by the children of such mothers are probably even more valuable to them than the biological inheritance. Why should not the women’s colleges do more to build up, instead of perpetually helping to tear down, a group of permanently and traditionally civilized families? [ … ]
I am sure the great question which the educated people of the East must ask themselves, over and over again, is whether they want these college women, one-half of them maiden ladies, in business and in the professions, where they limit the earning power of married men, or whether they prefer them as mothers, with boys and girls who shall inherit their special abilities and special culture, with which to face and conquer the appalling vulgarities and complexities of our present and future civilization.”
(Henry R. Carey, “Sterilizing the Fittest”, The North American Review, Vol. CCXXVIII, N°. 5, November 1929).
More here.
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The women of past generations were not as oppressed as feminist propaganda and revisionist history would have us to believe.
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I know that. What’s that have to do with intelligence level? I’m saying, if you took modern women and kicked their collective IQs up 30 points, you’d have an even bigger problem on your hands.
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30 points is huge, IQ-speaking. This doesn’t happen overnight. Something this huge would take centuries, if not millennia. Just 5 points (which is more realistic to happen within a couple of generations) could have the effects you’re describing.
But I don’t see women becoming smarter. I think they’re becoming dumber. Don’t let the veil of education fool you. There is more to intelligence than just being books smart. Some women might be fooled into thinking their degrees make them smarter for most men, but biology laughs. If you don’t exercise your brain (by stopping to think for yourself and only listening to liberal nonsense instead) you’ll become a dummy. All the women and gender-studies, the psychology, sociology, and teaching course at these universities can’t reverse the way they formatted your brain. You’ll just become a stupid angry bitch infused with liberalism that you can’t see straight if your life were dependent on it. All this while men are still going for science and engineering degrees.
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No, they would have an ever bigger problem. All that gigantic grey matter and smarmy attitude with no man to share it with.
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No. Better than firing squad, guillotine, etc., for the downfallen IMO would be burning at the stake. With charcoal/coke fires, so there’s negligible smoke to obscure the view.
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rightwing fantasies always culminate in death camps- you’re real charmers.
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>>>rightwing fantasies always culminate in death camps- you’re real charmers.
Yeah . . . just ask Stalin, Mao, Ho, Che and Pol Pot
fucking dickhead
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+100
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The extremes blur together.
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pwned
Leftoid-0
Common sense-2
You get an extra point for the Clerks nod.
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If you Marxists were capable of reason, we would have other options, but until then, rope is the best answer.
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“If CH had a son, he would sound like “lords of lies”.”
BTW, we should applaud this itty bitty baby step in the direction of accepting your civic duty. Envisioning can be the first step to achieving.
[CH: True. But my admittedly lurid imagination isn’t quite that expansive.]
Pat on the back!
[Do you pat your boyfriend on the back after he expels his vitality into you? “Ok, nice job, you done now?”]
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[CH: True. But my admittedly lurid imagination isn’t quite that expansive.]
Not expansive enough to construct little CH?
[CH: Not expansive enough to construct something good out of 18 years of buzzkill.]
I don’t believe this even for one second. I think he’ll probably inherit that sublime tendency to relax his own sadistic impulses because of a tortured chivalry at his core despite himself.
[Chicks dig the tortured core.]
[Do you pat your boyfriend on the back after he expels his vitality into you? “Ok, nice job, you done now?”]
No. I breathe a sigh of relief because it’s over. But I also really like to gaze at that look of serene calm and joy on his face.
[A matronly love can persist a long time, warmed by the fire, but never on fire itself.]
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[CH: Not expansive enough to construct something good out of 18 years of buzzkill.]
I tried to find a compelling argument against this myself. I think I found one: You have to do it because it’s the right thing to do.
Plus, you might like it. Maybe it won’t be like buzzkill. I mean, lots of alphas who have kids seem satisfied about having them. Maybe it will all become clear when newborn CH grasps your finger with his remarkably small baby hand.
[CH: I dunno. I’ve been around kids. They’re cute in short bursts, especially the precocious ones. More than that… let’s just say that look of defeatism and downward spiraling testosterone I see on many fathers’ faces is unmistakable.]
[Chicks dig the tortured core.]
Believe me, I know.
[A matronly love can persist a long time, warmed by the fire, but never on fire itself.]
Apparently. I’m working on it though. I am saving up so I can be ok on my own.
[Thought experiment: Assuming financial stability on your part, if you were to leave your boyfriend tomorrow — excuse me, if you were to leave your boyfriend boyfriend boyfriend boyfriend boyfriend tomorrow — would you miss him at all? If you found someone new within a week, would you forget about your boyfriend? I think it’s important for you to answer these questions about yourself honestly.]
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One day you are going to get older and you won’t be able to pick up hot girls anymore no matter what. I see guys in their 50s with young hot girlfriends. But I almost never see guys in their 60s with a young hot girlfriend. The testosterone thing is going to wane regardless, but you could have a kid, who will love you regardless.
[CH: Liquor and hookers. Or Southeast Asian strivers. Same diff.]
I missed one of my exes intensely. I thought of him every minute of the day and it completely took over my mind for a long time. I also missed my ex from college intensely and constantly for 6 months or so.
As for my current boyfriend, it’s hard to say.
[Where there’s doubt, there’s no doubt.]
In my mind, I don’t let him go. I still have to keep him in my life somehow as a close friend. If he were to cut off all contact with me, I’d probably become very needy and unstable. As I usually do, I would probably then try to find a boyfriend to be very close to me as soon as possible. I am somehow very empty inside and I can’t handle being alone for long at all. A boyfriend to me is like a roof over my head. It feels like a fundamental need. When I am single I feel an intense painful need to get a boyfriend.
[You sound like a normal woman.]
So, I end up with people that are highly committal but ultimately not people I can love completely.
[Men and their penises are allies. Women and their clits are adversaries.]
I want to really try to be cautious and find someone I can really love for a long time next time.
[That’s your problem right there: you aren’t throwing caution to the wind.]
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[CH: Liquor and hookers. Or Southeast Asian strivers. Same diff.]
I suppose some of those hookers will end up loving you. Somehow you are not bothered by the fact that you know you should be doing better with yourself.
[Men and their penises are allies. Women and their clits are adversaries.]
I am trying to be optimistic. Right now it seems like there are a lot of great guys out there. I could follow my heart or my head or my gina tingles, and either way, I think I would end up with some guy who would love me and be good to me. I like to think this at least.
[That’s your problem right there: you aren’t throwing caution to the wind.]
Ok. This probably isn’t the right response. But I will think about how I can be less afraid to let go and just fall in love madly and passionately.
Thanks for your assessment that I am a normal woman. I don’t hear it often, and it’s comforting.
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ur not normal. you are high IQ and contemplative, which is rare, like my ex GF soon to be fiance
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[CH: I dunno. I’ve been around kids. They’re cute in short bursts, especially the precocious ones. More than that… let’s just say that look of defeatism and downward spiraling testosterone I see on many fathers’ faces is unmistakable.]
Probably because said fathers are betas whose wives aren’t giving them proper sex.
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My ex would say “good boy!” But she had also just had a 40-second orgasm and it was not faked.
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#2 on the Leftism column is nearly a reality. There’s already “good-looking privilege” floating around, why not an “intelligence privilege”?
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Interesting prediction, however:
Did CH see the news about Chinese eugenics a while back?
http://www.vice.com/read/chinas-taking-over-the-world-with-a-massive-genetic-engineering-program
Apparently, Beijing is funding research labs to isolate “intelligence genes”, possibly to use in designer babies, which given sufficient number, will “seed” the Chinese population with the gene through breeding over time. They estimate a +10~15 point IQ increase, a very substantial boost if applied through the general population.
Which brings me to a pet theory – that transhumanism will bring about a completely different game of racial/ethnic competition, maybe even eliminating the need altogether. And it could perhaps sooner than we think. If you are concerned about the future of whites, consider maintaining a viable and distinct white population until the singularity shuffles the cards.
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CH. you’re son would be a retard because both speculation sound very leftist.
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Congratulations Kastin. No one who’s first language is English understands what in the hell you are trying to say.
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lollz i’d love to see a punk like you say this to my face. you’ll get knocked the fuck out and dominated like you deserve bitch.
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you are a moron. his comment was spot on. CH , ban this troll.
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My dad can beat up your dad. He can lift like a bujillion pounds brah
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let me explain why I a have no patience with patronizing imbeciles who can’t grasp the basic political spectrum. on the far right there is anarchy and on the far left there is socialism. the post is debating two leniencies on the left with one slightly more on the right of which both advocate government intervention in a humanist and pragmatist fashion respectively.
now get off my dick
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Shit you win. I cannot compete with your degree in bigwordology and shit nigguh.
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It’s cute though. I remember my first Political Science Textbook too….
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now get off my dick
Move your shoulders.
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That’s not a dick. Thats a two inch Grinch.
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let me explain why I a have no patience with patronizing imbeciles who can’t grasp the basic political spectrum.
Hmm…
Is Kastin patronizing? Certainly.
Is he an imbecile? Sure writes like one.
He also has the temper of a hung-over ferret.
Ironic, huh?
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He and I are about to have….that’s right fellas.
A bro down.
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Cyclodexrous, you really should learn about a subject before running your mouth about it. The average IQ difference between whites and blacks in America runs about SIXTEEN points, about one standard deviation.
From the rigorous http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/retard.htm , check out Figure 1.
” Figure 1 shows IQ distribution curves for African Americans and non-Hispanic whites. The areas under the curves are normalized to unity, so that the narrower black distribution appears taller. Two standard deviations from each side of the white mean mark IQ boundaries for retardation and giftedness. Outside these borders, in the shaded regions, are the cognitive extremes. There, the areas under the curves represent the fractions of each group who meet IQ criteria for retardation or giftedness. (Most striking is the tiny black representation in the gifted region.) The ratio of areas shows blacks to be 6.1 times more likely than whites to fall below the boundary for retardation, and 53 times less likely to be gifted. So profound are the group differences that they are apparent to the man in the street, who observes a profusion of African Americans at the bottom of the economic and educational ladders, and a scarcity at the top.”
“In 1959, AAMD set the IQ threshold for mental retardation at < 85. The civil rights movement of the next decade forced psychologists to rethink this boundary, because half the African American population fell below it. In 1973, responding to this concern, AAMD (by then AAMR) changed the threshold for retardation from IQ < 85 to IQ < 70. The boundary moved south by one standard deviation! The proportion of blacks below the threshold instantly dropped from about 50 percent to 12 percent." (classic example of hiding a difference by redefinition.)
As people need to have 120-125 or so IQs to be scientists or engineers AT ALL, and more like 140+ to be really good, that means that one can expect practically NO black scientists, presuming meritocracies (no affirmative-action type tokens given a job a white or North Asian should have had, say). This difference is why there have been NO Fields Medal award winners (equivalent of the Nobel Prize for mathematics).
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” This difference is why there have been NO (black) Fields Medal award winners ”
It’s because of RAYCISMMM!!
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I guess this didn’t go through the first time. I’ll try again:
Here’s a link to a 1961 Kurt Vonnegut story about where we’re heading:
http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html
This will all end in tears. And blood.
I hope to still be around when this particular balloon goes up!
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Re the left:
1)”we need to make life as comfy as possible for the left side of the bell curve (which we now believe in).”
This isn’t a problem, the only way to genuinely improve the quality of life of such people is to control their dysfunction, which is a step up from what is being done now. Likewise admitting mass immigration hurts them the worst. Globalist leftists have the quandry here though, because their own bad behavior gets exposed if they go down that route.
2-3)As long as underclass dysfunction is being controlled, redistribution is not much of a problem. America basically did this pre-1960s and it worked reasonably well enough.
4)Wrong conclusion, dominant genes wipe out recessive ones over time. Promoting eugenic selection, screening out the worst individuals, and pie in the sky gene replacement are the only game in town as far as making life better. Likewise there is only so much that can be done to promote miscegenation, eventually all of the deracinated whites are eliminated by the environment.
I personally doubt that we’re going to handle the coming shit-fan event civilly however.
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“2-3)As long as underclass dysfunction is being controlled, redistribution is not much of a problem. America basically did this pre-1960s and it worked reasonably well enough.” – IE money isn’t leaving circulation just because poorer people occasionally have more of it, and their ability to outright destroy wealth is curtailed as well.
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Speaking of politically incorrect…
“Author uncovers surprising secrets of female sexuality, including monogamy and fantasies”
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/what_women_want_qRO8pvoSKeFcqrPSftoi6N
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/what_women_want_qRO8pvoSKeFcqrPSftoi6N
I think the cat is out of the bag regarding female sexuality.
Ho hum. This will only be news to young guys raised in the bubble.
Question is, can civilized society survive this knowledge? If so, how?
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I’m sorry, but this post was mislabeled “Ugly Truths”.
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Meanwhile….Chicks dig the Boston bomber.
“Thousands of American teen girls are crushing on Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar “Jahar” Tsarnaev, 19 — and leading a social-media movement to exonerate him.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/girls_lovesick_twisted_OLK6eLVJM5U6618gAVXT0O
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When the Jews moved out the Arab population and replaced it with Jews, they called it “creating facts on the ground”. They also pretended (back in the teens and twenties) that they were bringing enlightenment and civilization to the Arabs who really ought to thank the Jews for turning Arab lands into a wonderful multi-cultural democracy. I suspect they are following the same course here.
They will say “there is no problem with mass Third World immigration” right up until white folks are in the minority, and then they will say “well, its too late now. We must have democracy, and the Mexicans control the vote, so we have to take care of them.”
It worked (and is working) for the Jews in Israel, so why not in America?
Nick Land in “Dark Enlightenment” noted the hardline stance taken by the left in its reengineering of America. Liberals will not resolve the dialectic with any synthesis that addresses white concerns–for now. Any dialectical resolution now might prevent further immigration, so they cannot yield at all.
And they truly don’t have to seek a compromise (synthesis), if you think about it. They can simply keep up constant pressure for amnesty and, win or lose, wait for birthright citizenship and one-man-one-vote to do the dirty deed.
As long as they can keep birthright citizenship off the table and keep giving baby subsidies to Mexicans, their work is done even if they cannot legalize the wetbacks currently living here.
Once they have a guaranteed voting majority comprised of third worlders they will then resolve the dialectic: “Golly! There are so many of them now, and we surely cannot expel Real Americans, so you might as well bend over and just take it up the b*tt.” In other words, “We now have the votes, sucker!”
It will take a bit longer, but it will arrive at the same destination.
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Check this out: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/11/3392908/as-prescription-pills-fade-heroin.html
Kevin Foley is gay. He’s a self-hating queer, which is why he turned to drugs. It takes precisely 0.0003 seconds of looking at the photo to discern these facts. His queerness is visible in the eyes.
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You can see the sugars in his eyes, and his face contorted like one of those demons from the Passion of the Christ.
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From H’s tweet (The New York Times):
“He has tried to measure which circumstances — having delinquent friends, living in a disadvantaged neighborhood — influence whether a predisposition to violence surfaces. After studying twins and siblings,
he came up with an astonishing result: In boys not exposed to the risk factors, genetics played no role in any of their violent behavior. The positive environment had prevented the genetic switches — to use Mr. Pinker’s word — that affect aggression from being turned on. In boys with eight or more risk factors, however, genes explained 80 percent of their violence. Their switches had been flipped.”
So environment PLAYS A ROLE in crime. It’s not 100% predetermined.
Don’t mock the blank slate. Genetics loads the gun, but environment always pulls the trigger.
Thanks, H.
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You are one step removed from saying something about gender roles, aren’t you? Did they cut them off one at a time or simultaneously?
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Syllogism: Premise, Assumption (unstated is fine), Conclusion.
Try to write one. Everything will work out better, I promise.
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I can’t write one. I don’t have alot of letters at the back of my name to convince little equalist parrots as yourself that I’m correct. Now, if I were gay or a feminist or both, you would lap it up with the lulz to follow, but you’ve already made your mind up as to what position you’re in. Finding evidence to support your conclusion should be easy.
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“little equalist parrots as yourself”
Make that a pterodactyl. An independent-minded one who actually scans the ground for truth in all positions, regardless of who wrote it.
Try seeing that blank slate AND genetic interpretations of life are — gasp — *equally* valid. Neither one tells the whole story of our existence.
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Trying rationalizing the idea that blank slate and genetic determinism are contradictory, Genius. Be careful what you swallow pterodactyl, whatever goee down your throat must come out of your ass eventually.
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A famous writer once said that the mark of an educated man is the ability to hold two opposing thoughts in his mind at the same time.
You are obviously not an educated man. And it has nothing to do with college degrees.
Here, let me help. Try on this rhetorical fallacy on for size: “false dichotomy”. Apply to your previous comment.
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Oh my goodness. He didn’t even understand what you said.
I’ll give explaining it a whirl.
Okay Patty, let’s play peek a boo.
Both of my hands are in front of my face. One has “environmental factors” written on it, and the other has “genetic factors” on it. (Someone else’s hand reaching around from behind should have epigenetics on it, but that’s probably too complicated for Patty.)
If I move one of my hands, you see half of my face. It doesn’t matter which one I move if I only move one of them.
If I move both of my hands, you see my whole face?
Get it?
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Blank slate means blank slate. No genetic effects whatsoever.
Nobody here denies environmental effects as contributing. If a kid is malnourished, he’ll grow up short even if his genes tell him to grow tall. That’s only common sense.
But saying genes have no role is the Conventional Wisdom That Cannot Be Gainsaid.
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Corvinus, you mean that *you* aren’t in denial of environmental factors. Those who believe color, as opposed to behavior, that makes them superior to others are.
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Im with corvinus on this one. Blank slate means blankslate. Obviously enviromental factors play a critical role, but how one behaves in the face of that stimulation is genetically determined. Yes there are always exceptions to every rule, but the exception proves the rule. Claiming that males are turned aggressive by the environment does hold some weight in the sense that you can make a pitbull even meaner by beating it, but the pitbull is still predisposed to aggressive behavior. If blankslate doesn’t mean blankslate than you shouldn’t use the term.
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Patty, nobody, and I do mean nobody who is reasonably regular here is or claims to be a blank slatist. You are constantly barking up the wrong tree with that.
All those of us who actually bother to read about HBD instead of just bandwagoning with crybabies are trying to say is that DNA methylation, which is largely triggered by environmental factors, determines a lot of gene expression.
You and those of you who want to oversimplify superiority or inferiority to “race” are more blank slatist than anyone else. The idea that any pale person is superior to any dark person may be your opinion, but it has no basis in science.
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Good. Glad you understand some aspects of gene expression. The part you fall short to is taking yourpremise to it’s logical conclusion. Claiming to speak for others who clearly stated their opinion and then twisting word meanings to make your point fit reality is rediculous. You’re attempting to state the same damn thing I said and then claim that is what was meant the entire time. Go back and reread what Jason originally said. Under his original premise blank slate meant exactically what one would reasonably take it to mean. Battling in the realm of semantics is where liberals go when they’re backed into a corner of their own painting. Either you accept blank slate which is preposterous or you accept genetic determinism which naturally and obviously takes enviromental factors into play. Don’t be dense.
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Patty, I can accept the realities of genetics and the role they play in human behavior without going to the extreme of being a genetic determinist. We simply do not have enough information to say to what degree any gene that would affect behavior could resist methylation in any race, or in what generation or how many generations a behavioral disorder would surely pop up. Some genes are methylated after birth. For all we know, slavery could be leading to a rise in behavioral disorders in this generation that has nothing to do with anybody’s “race” and everything to do with a mass trauma.
This is the problem that “stupid people are full of certainty while smart people are full of doubts”.
I don’t draw conclusions based on data that I do not have.
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Beavis once said, “I need TP for my bunghole.” Like your quote, while sounding cool, it means nothing in reality. I’m impressed though. You’re obviously using a thesaurus. Too badit wasn’t a dictionary. Look up false and dichotomy. Get back to me.
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It’s meaningless to you because you are…full of certainties.
Keep withering in that cage though.
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“Genetics loads the gun, but environment always pulls the trigger.”
It depends on the trait.
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The lengths and epistemological hoops liberals will jump through to defend equality is downright amazing sometimes.
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Yeah, anybody who doesn’t try to twist science into meaning that they personally are the best of everything in every way because of some irrelevant trait must be a liberal, marxist, or whatever.
You’re becoming tedious.
Some people actually come here to discuss the issues.
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Maam, if you strike that strawman one more time I will be forced to alert the authorities.
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That only works on sheeple.
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I think this is the difference between civilization and anarchy. This is why we become civilized in the first place. It’s unfortunate that you have to use a sociological study to prove what was once common knowledge. All of us have the capacity to kill and many of us, to kill and even enjoy it. One of the things that makes Achilles a frightening character, is that he was truly fearsome in combat and enjoyed battle and killing like nothing else. Robert E. Lee said that “It is a good thing that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it.”
So this capacity for violence is not a new thing and learning to control it is not a new thing. The poor are usually less intelligent and don’t get socialized as well, so they commit more violence, even in very civilized societies. So the discussion is really about how best to socialize them and what the limits of that socialization are and should be.
My complaint is that we deliberately choose expensive, elaborate, and innappropriate solutions to solving the problem out of moral vanity and self interest rather than out of a sincere desire to solve the problem of too little capacity for civilization. In fact we work against ourselves on purpose in order to create sinecures.
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Nice comment.
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Genetics puts a ceiling on your abilities, not a floor.
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Tyler Perry loves dressing in drag. Consider the black obsession with “booty” and the number of “down low brothas”. Ever wonder why there are so many black homos out there? . Most black women tend towards the masculine, both in apperance and behavior. Must be a correlation.
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That was in response to Whorefinder by the way.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220120/White-people-likely-gay-Huge-study-reveals-highest-proportion-homosexual-people-African-American-community.html
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Yeah it’s even more common I’ve heard among ghetto thugs than more normal acting blacks.
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Jail brings out those special qualities in a young man.
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Here’s a true story about my life for the crybabies who think someone should respect them just because they’re pale or have higher IQ’s on average.
I know all about being a crybaby. When I was a young kid, I was one.
Have you ever seen those films of the Nazi babies being taken through exercises and the like? Imagine those babies only African. That was me and a generation of children from certain “black” militant groups in the south around that time. I believe they’re still doing things like that, but doing better about keeping member in the group, silent, and stealthy.
Well, eventually I was about six years old, and my parents decided to have another kid. Mom was in university, and Dad had finished, and was working, and even though I could read and write at almost a college level back then, my parents didn’t believe in skipping grades. Also, school was cheaper than whatever special childcare and tutoring I would have to have.
For the sake of my social development, they sent me to public school. I was bored out of my mind, but tried to participate as best as I could. Other kids picked on me. Though I knew how to fight, I didn’t because I was afraid that I would get into trouble. So I just took it, and cried because it made me sad that other kids would hurt someone who’d never done anything wrong to them.
For this, I was called a crybaby.
Since apparently my crying wasn’t enough damage. I was too able to defend myself for them to draw some blood or something, so they started telling the teacher that I was doing things I wasn’t, knowing that the teacher (a psycho bitch) would beat me. This started to be a daily thing.
I was perplexed. I was smarter than most of these kids, and stronger than most of these kids. Why did they want to hurt me? Why did they look down on me? What is wrong with this picture?
At some point, the teacher was beating me, and I was curling up at times, blocking the blows at times, and then something snapped. I picked up a chair and hit her in the head with it. I then proceeded to break every chair and every desk in that room. Nothing was left that did not have a dent, some sort of gouge or wasn’t just broken. As she was woozily trying to get up from the ground, I told her that if she ever hit me again, I would kill her. Then I found my desk and chair, set it as right as I could, and sat at my desk with my hands crossed.
She was just getting up as the other kids returned. She was bleeding. I was sitting quietly. The other kids picked up their desks and chairs, and some were replaced. Then we went on the rest of the day like nothing had happened, except the class was very quiet.
I learned something that day. When you learn it then you will stop crying and start doing some actual work towards the things that matter. You will stop crying that the world no longer thinks you’re the best in every way just because you’re pale, and start preserving your cultures in the ways that matter.
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Cool story, bro.
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Believe it or don’t, but when the person holding the syringe to chemically castrate your grandsons because they show too much of a tendency to rebellion is a “colored”, don’t say nobody warned you.
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What a surreal miasma noir of an imagination dwells in your voodoo-addled brain!
Soul-curdling indeed… I can barely bring myself to issue yet another LLOZOZOZOZLZLZLZOZOZOZOZLZLZLZOZOZOZLZLZL.
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Shhhhh…just take your ritalin.
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If I’m going to indulge in pharmaceuticals, I’d just as soon have what you’ve been taking… it sounds like a real trip.
And try not to project the results of your childhood traumas (both real and imagined) onto others.
Although I will say, it does explain much… and as the maxim goes: to understand all is to forgive all.
The understanding of your peculiarities has begun…
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I never claimed to be normal.
How else do you figure “black” militants raise their kids?
We are intelligent, charismatic, and good at violence.
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We are intelligent, charismatic, and good at violence.
Yeah… intelligent enough (for example) to turn a place like Detroit, the erstwhile mecca of Western industrial society, into a shithole within two generations.
And with a nat’chell sense o’ rhythm…
LLLOZOZOZLZLZLZLZOZOZOZLZLZL.
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Product of public school geography class I see.
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Queen of Denial and Babble-On… your empire grows:
But two quick examples:
http://articles.latimes.com/1990-10-28/news/mn-4596_1_trade-pact
http://prepperrecon.com/detroit-rock-city/
Once the icon of empire, Detroit was the automotive industry capital of the world. The city now exists on life support. Once a mecca for commerce, it is now synonymous with crime and murder
Note the uncannily similar language of “industry” and “mecca”.
Google is your friend… and will make you wise.
This is why I seldom bother with you, except to mock.
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Nicole, What dramatic music do you suggest I listen to while reading your lamentious ode to the will to power? I was thinging Adagio of Strings.
Did you waggle your finger from side to side and shake your head “no” in typical Hulk Hogan fashion before her face prior to your assault or did you just leer at her broken body Clint Eastwood style?
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Product of public school geography class I see.
Yes… back then, they taught that Detroit was part of the Western world (or Western Civilization, if you prefer)… and literally in the Western Hemisphere.
What am I missing? Does Africa now claim it de iure, as well as de facto?
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At some point, the teacher was beating me, and I was curling up at times, blocking the blows at times, and then something snapped. I picked up a chair and hit her in the head with it.
LOL’ed.
You go, girl.
You go.
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This man is the epitome of reason
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Feministx: “However, it will be decades before the HBD view is widely accepted. I estimate that by the time this view is widely accepted, we will have advanced sufficiently to quickly create cognitive gene therapies that allow the left side of the bell curve to essentially take supplements and hormones and function more like smarter and more disciplined people. “
Sounds plausible to me.
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