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The One Instance Saying Sorry To A Girl Is Helpful

May 13, 2013 by CH

When a girl snarkily accuses you, in so many words, of coming onto her. For example:

GIRL: If you think I’m going home with you…

YOU: Nope, wasn’t thinking it. Sorry to disappoint you.

AAS. A, Always. A, Assume. S, the Sale. Always assume the sale.

Chicks dig guys who are (over)confident of their product.

There is one exception to the above rule: An accusatory girl who is showing by her lip-licking, hair-twirling and heel-dangling that she actually would like you to come onto her. You may then accept her accusation not as a shit test, but as an invitation to increase the voltage.

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  1. on May 13, 2013 at 11:36 am OralCummings

    I hope this isnt one of those posts where some asshole with nothing to say writes,”First!” Like anyone give a hoot!

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:57 pm Zombie Shane

      CHICK #1: “When a girl snarkily accuses you, in so many words, of coming onto her.”

      CHICK #2: “An accusatory girl who is showing by her lip-licking, hair-twirling and heel-dangling that she actually would like you to come onto her.”

      What scares the hell out of me is when Chick #1 and Chick #2 are one and the same girl.

      Those are the crazy psycho bitches who are trying to game YOU.

      The chicks who – if they don’t get their way – are liable to falsely accuse you of harassing them, or of sexually assaulting them, or who will blackmail you by threatening to spill the beans to your girlfriend/fiancee/wife that you’ve been out catbirding on her.

      Those chicks send a fucking chill down my spine.

      Stay the hell away – DNFW.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 6:19 pm Anon

      80th!!

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 7:45 pm Sandy Melendez

      hey everyone ; ) by the way, if all of you wanna tips to date japanese people, please watch this video, cultural customs could vary much, is a warning if you wanna date a japanese girl or guy ; )

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 9:56 pm cynthia

        How to date Japanese girls:
        -Be white
        -Be in Tokyo
        -Be in the good expat bars in Roppongi where the Japanese girls go for white cock.
        Super simple.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 10:32 pm Raul

        sandy you are very pretty : )

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 10:08 pm Greg Eliot

        Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:18 am haunted trilobite

        Speedy seduction Gonzalez

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 6:06 pm gunslingergregi

      lol

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  2. on May 13, 2013 at 11:39 am tspark156

    Girl: If you think I am going home with you…….
    Me: I wasn’t thinking that I only take hot girls home. Back turn.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm LeRenard

      Too petulant.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 2:08 pm Revo Luzione

        Yup. Sounds butthurt.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:20 am tspark156

        Not if delivered with grin and wink

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm YaReally

      Butt-hurt, but two situations it would work:

      1) She’s already attracted to you and knows you’re attracted to her and she’s attractive enough to be confident in her looks, and you say it with a wink and a half-grin sarcastically, setting up a roleplay where you’re calling eachother ugly and building the sexual tension that way. This is a nice happy fun mood and you’ll get a good fun lay out of it.

      2) She’s super smokin’ hot but also full of herself/bitchy and you say it super aloof like you don’t give a fuck about her and your frame is strong/confident enough for her to believe “wow, he really doesn’t think I’m good enough for him…every guy thinks I’m good enough for them, who the fuck is THIS guy?? He must be high-value!! I’ll show him, I’ll make him want me like those other guys!!” etc. This is a rude hostile mood and you’ll get a good hate-fuck out of it.

      But ya, the rest of the time it’ll just come off butt-hurt.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:55 pm Mitch Cumstein

      Her: If you think I’m going home with you…
      You: You would think that…

      Produce the biggest shit-eating grin you can.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:10 pm corvinus

      Girl: If you think I am going home with you…….
      Answer: Wjat? Is that what you’re thinking about? Rad.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 9:14 pm jez

        Girl: If you think I am going home with you…….

        (a) Sex, sex, sex — do you ever think about anything else?

        (b) Mmm? No, I was thinking about the double helix. (Or Fermat’s Last Theorem. Or the metaphysical poets.)

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 1:38 am bob

      Say nothing and go home with her. There you go.

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  3. on May 13, 2013 at 11:40 am late late late bloomer

    and even when she’s totally in, you can go with something along the lines of “well, we’ll see if you actually deserve it’ or other. for me (because of my single-mother cultivated instincts to overcome) i have to do basically anything to avoid sounding the least bit eager at any point.

    anybody notice how delusional the mother’s day postings on facebook were this weekend? holy lord. just wonderful to read and remind yourself what waits within marriage.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 11:54 am moe jones

      Delusional how? Give examples

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 1:15 pm late late late bloomer

        like wives that you know are cheating going on about their men and how motherhood has changed them. it’s a hoot. but as below, he’s right, fb is pretty girly. i also think it’s illustrative. and a few years back it was a gold rush for hookups.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 3:17 pm Rick Derris

        >>> he’s right, fb is pretty girly.

        That’s because Zuck is a fucking faggot.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm anon

      Nope. I’m not on facebook. Facebook is for girls.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:29 pm anon

      But about “waits within marriage.” Unfortunately the old maxim about women, you can’t live with ’em, can’t live without ’em, really is true. You can’t be alone forever. It sucks. Relying on Asian women or call girls will not be satisfying. A true high value man wants kids. A man basically has to suck it up and enter a marriage, knowing it literally CANNOT end well. There are only 2 options: 1. divorce and divorce theft (but you got kids out of the deal) or 2. you are the rare couple that stays married, and then you grow old with an aging, old woman!!! Either way sucks, but I say marriage and kids is better than making the same mistake women make, thinking you’ll be 28 or 38 forever. While it is true, of course, that men age better or can be sexually attractive at an older age, men age too, indeed, and only the REAL Alpha Jack Nicholson, a famous actor, can hit on a 22 year old move star and get praised on this blog for it. When you are 75, you not being Jack Nicholson the famous star, most certainly will NOT be getting any hot 22 year old or even 42 year old mediocre poosy.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 1:19 pm late late late bloomer

        my dad was 70 with a hot 40 year old girlfriend, and 30s isn’t tough. but you’re right, and i do want kids but i also want to parent my kids. so the usa might not be the place for it as things stand. i don’t think i’m going to hit 70 and grab a hotass and pop some kids out, but 55 and getting a 30 just isn’t uncommon i don’t think.

        i’ve also impregnated at least one friend that asked ‘will you give me this gift’ but only as a donor. gotta get those genes into the next generation.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 1:51 pm Good Ole JR

        Bad move man. She can pop for all the back child support. Worst case scenario is her filing on the day before the kid’s 18th birthday. Cha-Ching.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 2:55 pm Big Nick Digger

        You are nuts, man. Have a doctor do the deed. Does your state permit unmarried women to be inseminated without a biological father or substitute father? Can you legally sign away your parental rights and responsibilities away under your state’s version of the Uniform Parentage Act?

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 6:26 am Zombie Shane

        “i’ve also impregnated at least one friend that asked ‘will you give me this gift’ but only as a donor. gotta get those genes into the next generation.”

        You need to get the chick close to you – preferably no farther away than next door.

        You need to be able to keep a constant eye on your child.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm Greatest Beta

        Fuck getting married in the US. Odds of success are so ridiculously low. Divorce theft but even worse is the custody awards to the women… Standard default 80/20 terrible. So by default expect your paycheck to get absorbed by the woman.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 2:58 pm man reader

        here is what you nonfather children don’t get that only a father understands: even though all of that is true, it is STILL worth it to be a father. you have to be a father before you can understand.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 3:44 pm Greatest Beta

        Pls elaborate on this. I see how much these men PAIN for their kids. I’ve seen teenager kids turn against their fathers because the cluster b mothers are furious they were replaced by a model that was younger hotter tighter. I’ve seen powerful mighty men of business and commerce tear in seconds when they think of their daughters in the exs control.

        Tell us pls

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 9:33 am man reader

        yes…being a father comes with a lot of pain and pure terror in worrying about your kids, but all of it is worth it because of the love you get from them.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:55 pm Persequere Mulieres

        even though all of that is true, it is STILL worth it to be a father. you have to be a father before you can understand.

        Being a father is worth doing, but is it worth marrying? I don’t think so. Live together, raise your kids, maintain individual identities for that inevitable future day when one of you won’t want to live together anymore.

        When you’re 40 and completely welded to the other person, it’s tough to figure out what to do. I’d love to have better options than the options I face now.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 3:18 am doclove

        You lose your liberty to the woman and the government when you become a father in the USA for at least the past 50 years, and it wasn’t always like this whether a man sired legitimate children with a wife or bastard children with a slut. Enjoy your servitude because you don’t want liberty. Any man that doesn’t desire his liberty isn’t a real man. Fullstop.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:13 pm Zombie Shane

        “2. you are the rare couple that stays married, and then you grow old with an aging, old woman!!!”

        LOL’ed.

        Seriously though – and I know that this won’t go down well with the more cynical denizens of The Chateau – but some couples actually LIKE each other!

        Enjoy one-another’s company.

        Do the whole strolling down the beach at sunset routine, holding hands, pondering the mystery and the wonder of it all.

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know – bitches are only good for shooting your wad in their rectums, blah blah blah blah blah…

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 12:38 am Woere

        Ah, the old French proverb, “Whether a man marries or not, he regrets his decision.”

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  4. on May 13, 2013 at 11:45 am Amanjaw Marcuntte

    Chicks dig guys who are (over)confident of their product.

    Meanwhile, inside their pretty little heads:

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  5. on May 13, 2013 at 11:53 am futurodellanazione

    “Nope. I would never. I just look at junk food. I don’t eat it.”

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  6. on May 13, 2013 at 11:55 am intjguy

    We have always suspected that men with “erectile dysfunction” actually just had unattractive partners. Well, it’s official now:

    http://monogamygame.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/unattractive-women-cause-erectile-dysfunction-the-elephant-in-the-room/

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:23 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      I am deeply disappointed with that article because the graph lacked crudely drawn penises, preferably rendered in MS Paint.

      Also because they have failed to include information about how to become an erection-angle measurer. I just want to contribute to science!

      CH: A limerick:
      There once was a lad named Heartiste
      Whose cock for some fun was on lease
      Both grower and show-er
      And hoped-for bestower
      The angle fit all types of piece!]

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Thank you, CH. I had forgotten how much Diet Coke burns when it comes out my nose. Now I remember.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm Kate

        lol- Careful! You could blind people with that kind of science 🙂

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm everybodyhatesscott

      A man was prescribed Viagra by his doctor who told him to take it one hour before sex. The man collected his prescription and went home to wait for his wife to get in from work.

      An hour before she was due home, he took the Viagra pill. But just as he was expecting her, she phoned to say that she wouldn’t be in for another two and a half hours.

      In a panic, he phoned the doctor. “What should I do?” he asked. “I’ve taken the pill but the effects will have worn off by the time my wife gets home.” “I see,” said the doctor. “It is a pity to waste it. Do you have a maid?” “Yes.” “Well, could you not occupy yourself with her instead?” “But I don’t need Viagra with the maid.”

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:19 pm Revo Luzione

        It seems I can only remember about 5 canned jokes at a time, even though I’m capable of humorous social repartee and improvisation.

        This one is worth remembering as one of my 5 on-demand jokes.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 10:16 pm dave843

      People are funny, the names they give to things. Woman is ugly/fat & doesn’t get me hard = erectile dysfunction. They most be total fucking zombies to believe in this stuff.

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  7. on May 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm Revo Luzione

    Plausible deniability wins yet again.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:10 pm Patriarch

      “If you think I’m coming home with you…”
      “Coming home with me? Hahahaha. Sweetheart my place is off limits. Now your place….”
      “Why can’t we go to your place?”
      ::Shit eating grin….::

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm anon

        You want her to think you have rats or roaches in your apartment or something?

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 12:46 pm Patriarch

        If I’m lucky she will assume that all on her own.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 12:50 pm Patriarch

        “Come on, relax baby. Try not to think of them as rodents, think of them as the audience baby, and YOU’RE the star…”

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  8. on May 13, 2013 at 12:20 pm anon

    we are not having sex tonight smirk ignore keep kissing hold boob bang!

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  9. on May 13, 2013 at 12:21 pm Testicles

    Short and to the point. If only interacting with women would be the same.

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  10. on May 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm John

    I told a girl in a text before a date [had fooled around once, but never slept over] something along the lines of

    Me: “Yeah, we can go there when we wake up”
    Her: “oh, who said you were sleeping over?”
    Me: “Always assume the sale. See you in a bit”

    Not only did I sleep over that night, but she told me specifically she liked that line. She also told me she told all her friends about it. This happened months ago, but she still will randomly bring it up to me. Works. Like. Charm.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 12:37 pm Patriarch

      Like when she says “oh, are you?” In response to sexually aggressive confident statement.
      The herb backs off, the ravenous push forward.

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  11. on May 13, 2013 at 12:54 pm whorefinder

    I apologized to a girl once.

    It wasn’t my best rape.

    RAPE!

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      Rape means never having to say you’re sorry.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm whorefinder

        Yes, but she deserved better than that rape. Only feminazis deserve sub-par rape.

        RAPE!

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:37 pm Ronin

      See, there you are; my segue was going to be,

      “And by ‘increase the voltage’, you mean?…

      ::tosses the microphone to @whorefinder::”

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  12. on May 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm YaReally

    “If you think I’m going home with you…”

    “Okay, we can just do it in the bathroom over there. God you’re forward…but I’m drunk and have low standards so I’m in.”

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm Matthew King

      Solid Fire Island bathhouse game. A few tweaks and it’ll work behind rest stops too.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 4:40 pm YaReally

        See, now you’re commenting on things you’re an expert in, I’m glad you’re finally taking my advice. Hugsies! 🙂

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:08 pm Tilikum

        is that where you practice your Matt King (TM) Baby-Bird ?

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 10:01 pm Greg Eliot

        Bathroom sex? That’s just YaReally killing two birds with one stone…

        “Hey, darlin’… seein’ as how I gotta pinch a loaf anyway… heh, heh, heh.”

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 10:17 pm dave843

      You had her at bathroom.

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  13. on May 13, 2013 at 1:45 pm Sherlock

    http://phys.org/news/2013-05-dating-couples-click-minutes.html

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 2:01 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

      Both genders reported clicking when their conversations were mainly about the women.

      What solipsism?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 6:02 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Real talk… that dyke-haired ho looks like a prepubescent bro.

      Grow some fuckin’ hair and paint ya goddamned nails, forchristsakes! Ditch the titty-crushing sports bra for a Victoria’s Secret push-up. Wear your blouse at least one size down, and undo more than just the top two buttons. Skintight is allllright! Enhance ya homely face with some makeup and tweeze your scraggly eyebrows to give them that wispy, feminine look. Go heavy with the mascara and don’t forget to apply some red hot lipstick to those flat, lifeless lips. For the final touch, a few sprays of an expensive designer perfume will mask the rotten smell of your 30something, beat-up pussy just fine.

      If that old broad did even half of these things, she wouldn’t be sitting at a speed dating event in the first place.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 6:31 am haunted trilobite

        It’s an internet stock photom, so your advice is wasted. There are women walking around shopping centres that might appreciate your critique

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  14. on May 13, 2013 at 1:50 pm olivia

    Why would I want to date an alpha if he is just going to leave me once I grow older. I would rather be with a beta who is sweet and will stay with me. Btw I am good looking and 22.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 1:58 pm John

      you don’t want to date him. you want to cheat on your beta with him.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm cryo

      “Btw I am good looking and 22.”

      Prove it. Anyway, you wouldn’t want to date the alpha, but you would want to get ravaged by him in the mud room. Which you can still do while retaining a beta. However, I do think its going to be harder to accomplish this in the future as more and more betas become aware that the only utility a female has is for sex (and children, but that’s not really an option anymore for America alphas).

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:36 pm Matthew King

      I would never leave a good looking 22-year-old. The good looking would leave first.

      I am very sweet and I promise to stay with you forever. Btw I am gnarly looking and 53.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 6:31 am feministx

        too young for me.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:13 am Matthew King

        The gnarly works though, right?

        Sometimes I lose my turtling cock up into my FUPA. Stop me when I’ve said too much.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:18 pm whorefinder

      This looks like a job for whorefinder!

      TIT PICS OR GTFO..

      Thank you, and goodnight.

      RAPE!

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:14 pm olivia

        Not going to show pictures but i know i am good looking, people tell me all the time. Anyway I realise as I get older they will just be distant memories. These comments make me sad, that we have ‘no utility’ apart from for sex. I usually fall for douche bags but thanks to this site I have realised why I fall for them. There is this guy who seems so sweet, used to like me but probably not anymore as I showed no interest before because i was being properly played by a player.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:15 am Matthew King

        Don’t let whorefinder make you sad. He may be a rapist, but he is a happy rapist. Hence the clown mask.

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  15. on May 13, 2013 at 1:58 pm Beefy Levinson

    +1 for the “Death of a Fucking Salesman” reference.

    “There is only one thing that counts in this life: get them to sign. On the line. Which is dotted! You hear me you fuckin’ faggots?”

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:22 pm Mitch Cumstein

      A set of steak knives for this man.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:08 pm Patriarch

        I’ll throw in a discount coupon to Jolly Pirate Donuts.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 9:22 pm stg58animalmother

      That isn’t “Death of a Salesman”, that is Alec “Fuck you” Baldwin in Glen Garry Glen Ross.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 1:52 pm Beefy Levinson

        I know. The cast jokingly called Glengarry Glen Ross “Death of a Fucking Salesman” due to all of the gratuitous profanity.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 9:58 pm Greg Eliot

        You fairy.

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      • on May 15, 2013 at 6:27 am Matthew King

        WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR TRADE, you cunt. You fucking child.

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      • on May 15, 2013 at 9:34 am Greg Eliot

        You company man!

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      • on May 15, 2013 at 11:01 am Matthew King

        “Salesmen are born not made.”

        That flick is a fifth of bourbon, straight to the head.

        PUT. THE COFFEE. DOWN. You think I’m fucking with you?

        I am not fucking with you.

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      • on May 15, 2013 at 12:17 pm Beefy Levinson

        Strangely, Alec Baldwin’s character was named “Blake” in the credits instead of “Fuck You.”

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  16. on May 13, 2013 at 2:11 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

    A beta and his money are soon parted (and ridiculed).

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm cryo

      c’mon…that can’t be real

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        That is so fucked up it has to be real.

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  17. on May 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm Rick James

    ^ Lol.

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  18. on May 13, 2013 at 2:25 pm Hugh Mann

    Nobel prize winner validation :

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/10036024/Richard-Feynman-Life-the-universe-and-everything.html

    “He became something of a womaniser, dating undergraduates and hanging out with show girls and prostitutes in Las Vegas. In a celebrated book of anecdotes about his life – Surely You’re Joking Mr Feynman – the scientist recounts how he applied an experimental approach to chatting up women.

    Having assumed, like most men, that you had to start by offering to buy them a drink, he explains how a conversation with a master of ceremonies at a nightclub in Albuquerque one summer prompted him to change tactics. And to his surprise, an aloof persona proved far more successful than behaving like a gentleman.“

    [CH: When you have Richard Feynman on your side, you know you’re on the right track.]

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:03 pm Johnny Caustic

      Richard Feynman’s drawings of strippers, etc.

      http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2013/01/17/richard-feynman-ofey-sketches-drawings/

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm Hugh Mann

        http://buffman.net/ebooks/Richard_P_Feynman-Surely_Youre_Joking_Mr_Feynman_v5.pdf

        “OK,” he says. “The whole principle is this: The guy wants to be a gentleman. He doesn’t want to be thought of as impolite, crude, or especially a cheapskate. As long as the girl knows the guy’s motives so well, it’s easy to steer him in the direction she wants him to go.

        “Therefore,” he continued, “under no circumstances be a gentleman! You must disrespect the girls. Furthermore, the very first rule is, don’t buy a girl anything–not even a package of cigarettes-
        -until you’ve asked her if she’ll sleep with you, and you’re convinced that she will, and that she’s not lying.”

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 4:42 pm Hugh Mann

        The story of Ann and the sandwiches …

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  19. on May 13, 2013 at 2:34 pm frozenpie77

    I’ve found that another good one is to say, “sorry for your loss” whenever a girl is bitching about some frivolous little thing.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 7:41 pm Mann

      That’s a good one I’m going to try that

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  20. on May 13, 2013 at 2:40 pm Sidewinder

    Online dating question:

    Exchanged 2 messages with a girl, set up a time to meet for drinks this weekend. She cancels saying that she’s met someone and wants to see where that goes before meeting someone else, and she wanted me to know that she wasn’t blowing me off.

    [CH: Translation: She wanted you to know you are the back-up plan.]

    Does this require any response from me?

    [“gay”.]

    The standard responses of “lame” or “gay” seem overly butt hurt in this situation.

    [Wait a day before responding. It’ll be perceived as less butthurt.]

    And any kind of clever reply seems very try hard. We had never met and she was actually being polite in telling me up front what was going on. My gut instinct is to not reply at all, being that I’m completely indifferent to our initial plans having never met her, and her cancellation appears to be polite and not a shit test.

    General agreement that no response is necessary?

    [“gay” or no reply. If you want to go funny, tell her you could give her tips on how to properly play the field.]

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 2:51 pm BA

      catch ya later

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:04 pm YaReally

      “good luck! txt me if he turns out to be a serial killer lol”

      Replace “serial killer” with anything you think she’d be disappointed in. “txt me if he turns out to be boring and you need me to help you sneak out the bathroom window lol” Or “txt me if he won’t stop talking about his mom all night lol” etc.

      My interactions always have a sexual vibe so I’d use more offensive stuff like “txt me if he can’t get it up lol” or “txt me if he rolls over and goes to sleep leaving you hanging lol” or “txt me if he’s boring and you need someone to whisk you off to the bathroom and send you back to the table with a smile on your face 😉 lol” etc. etc. But don’t do this if you haven’t been sexually flirting with her already. I never set a “dating” frame so this works for me. Keep it rated PG if you’ve been running gentlemanly game.

      She’s being legit polite, and you’re right that “lame” and “gay” are too butt-hurt. Wish her the best, you have 10 playboy models begging for your dick, you hope it works out for her because that’s one less plate to have to spin, but if it doesn’t work out for her, you’re willing to make some time.

      Either the guy will be amazing and she’ll go off and have a wonderful life, which is great since you can get other girls, or within a month she’ll start finding flaws in him and remember you as the cool chill guy who didn’t get all butt-hurt jealous and extended her the offer of “feel free to txt me if it doesn’t work out” (VS not replying at all) so she doesn’t have to feel slutty or trigger her ASD by txting you to let you know she’s up for those drinks again.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 3:24 pm YaReally

        Some more nuances/detail on your particular situ:

        It’s possible to get her to cancel her date with a bunch of smart AMOG’ing and DHV and all that, but there are some downsides:

        1) It fosters a scarcity mentality…if you had been with this girl a few times and were protecting your shit, that’s different, but she’s just a random you haven’t met up with yet so fuck it, who cares, it’s good to be able to let them go and build an abundance mentality and learn to not get all jealous and shit.

        2) It would be a LOT of work, and you’d basically have to throw some hail-marys that would either work, or completely sabotage any future possibility and burn the bridges so that there’s no chance of getting her in the future. You’d basically be fighting to swim up-stream against the current.

        The reason it’d be a lot of work right now is because that other guy has higher value to her than you do…that’s why she’s cancelling on you, not him. Likely she’s met him in real life already so by default he “exists” to her more than you do because he’s “real” instead of just txt, and your txts aren’t emotionally engaging/exciting enough to make up for that.

        Now if you were super high value to her, and your txts rocked her world all the time, she would either cancel on him to pursue you or you would be able to pretty effortlessly AMOG the guy and keep her from fucking him (I usually txt girls when I know they’re on their date and distract them and ask embarrassing questions about the guy lol).

        It’s just a matter of value…that’s why “gay” and “lame” right now would come off as butt-hurt. You don’t have high enough value for her to care about qualifying herself to you. If there were no other guy in the picture and she was just cancelling for something dumb, those would be fine…but you’re now in competition value-wise with this guy and he’s got a leg up on you, so the exact same stuff that would be fine/attractive if you were high-value will shoot you in the foot and make you look butt-hurt while you’re low-value.

        So this is why I recommend just saying good luck and offering an olive branch for future banging. It’s not as satisfying as tooling her, but it’s the higher % move for actually getting the lay down the road. “gay” will make her just never txt you again.

        The odds of him turning out to be a perfect guy she’s going to marry are astronomically low…more likely she’ll date him for a few weeks/months and then you’ll get a txt from her saying “hey how’s it going?” which means “I want to fuck you, please don’t bring up that other guy I’m embarrassed that I’m crawling back to you, just act cool and escalate this to us hanging out and fucking ASAP thx”. 🙂

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 4:23 pm Third Beta From the Sun

        bitter f’n pill. best taken straight, no chaser.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 4:55 pm Matthew King

        The perils of overgaming. Stock reply suicide.

        Reread: “any kind of clever reply seems very try hard.”

        And:

        We had never met and she was actually being polite in telling me up front what was going on. My gut instinct is to not reply at all, being that I’m completely indifferent to our initial plans having never met her, and her cancellation appears to be polite and not a shit test.

        Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, gameboy. But then the right response wouldn’t validate your alpha cool quotient, so you blather and over-grease the asshole for three screens.

        He’s already working with natural indifference. And yet you want him to invest his wit into a free ego-boosting attention-feed to her.

        How about … “Timing isn’t best for me either”

        Too beta gentle? Too omega creepy? Let me have it, I deserve at least six paragraphs.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 5:28 pm YaReally

        “Reread: “any kind of clever reply seems very try hard.””

        Nah. That’s the guy asking for advice saying that. A guy who hasn’t approached a girl would say approaching a girl seems try hard. You just need the right clever reply that shows 1) non-judgementalism, 2) non-neediness, and 3) gives her good emotions. Stuff like “gay” or not replying at all don’t do any of those things…that doesn’t mean they can’t work, they’re just not the highest % play.

        I’m only talking about how to get the actual lay, like putting his penis inside of her vagina someday, not how to have a clever “I sure showed that bitch!” bragging story or how to protect some ePlayer “I won’t give you free ego-boosting attention!!111” ego. If he wants the lay, handle it like I recommend with the 3 elements above.

        “so you blather and over-grease the asshole for three screens.”

        Nah, I’m just explaining it for three screens for the guy asking for advice. Because I like to help guys. And I like to help them by explaining to them why I recommend the things I recommend. So that they understand my reasoning and can link it together with their own reference experiences and game understanding. Because I’m here to actually help other guys learn game.

        “And yet you want him to invest his wit into a free ego-boosting attention-feed to her.”

        Only if he wants the lay. I’m just going by the shit-tons of experience I have in these situations. She’s not being a bitch to him, she’s being polite. You don’t punish girls who haven’t done anything wrong. Except in the bedroom, with your cock lololololz

        “How about … “Timing isn’t best for me either””

        Super duper. Won’t get him the lay. What do you think she’s going to respond to that? “What?? It’s NOT?? Okay, I’m cancelling this guy I thought could be my future husband, I need to suck your dick right NOW!!!!! :D”

        No. But that is a great response for protecting your ego (“I’ll show her, I’M too busy for HER…even tho I’m the one that made the drink plans with her so it’s pretty obvious that I’m just being reactive to her”), not sparking any kind of attraction or good vibes for her to associate with you (since over the net he doesn’t have enough value compared to the real life guy for her to stress “losing” him), and it’s an excellent way to not learn anything from this situation.

        Your example is just applying “James Bond aloof game” when his value isn’t high enough for it to hook. There are situations where that would be a good move, but the one described by the OP isn’t one of them is all.

        Please continue teaching me about game from your armchair. I’m taking many notes on your eFlirts with the girls here lol

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 10:14 am Kate

        That’s IT!!! Go to your corners. NOW! I am sick of this bickering. I *will* break out the pillow, and I will have no qualms pummelling either of you to a feathery pulp.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:29 pm Southern Man

        I am so going to use that.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:06 am Matthew King

        I deserve at least six paragraphs.

        And instead I get nine! An embarrassment of riches.

        Your lid is screwed on wayyyy too tight, brother.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:16 am Kate

        *THWACK*

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:10 pm Sidewinder

        If I have any objective it would be to keep from creating a negative impression. She was the first to contact me online to begin with, and I’ve had enough experience online to know that she was going out of her way to keep me as a backup plan. Since we never met, I don’t take that as a negative or an indication that she is ljbf’ing me. Had we gone out once and scheduled a 2nd date that she cancelled for another guy, that would be a different story requiring more direct action. But this is obviously a guy she met before me, so I don’t think any kind of negative response would be helpful to the future possibility of putting the p in the v. The only reason I care to analyze this is because she might overcompensate to demonstrate her interest if she comes back around. It would be easy to tease her if things don’t work out with this guy and she asks about meeting up again.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:00 pm YaReally

        “Had we gone out once and scheduled a 2nd date that she cancelled for another guy, that would be a different story requiring more direct action.”

        Yep. Totally different situation. In that situ you have more value to her and its a different game.

        “The only reason I care to analyze this is because she might overcompensate to demonstrate her interest if she comes back around.”

        This is what will happen. You’ll be starting your relationship with all the “hand” because she’s the one crawling back to you. You might not even hear from her after your txt for weeks. I’ll usually shoot a casual feeler out a month later (like sending what looks like a mass “happy valentines day” txt if there’s a holiday handy)…that way if she ditched my number she’ll have it again. But with an online girl she can find your profile again so I would just wait it out. If you don’t hear from her in a couple months, they got serious, but I’ve literally had girls who “boyfriend up” txt me like a year later freshly single lol

        “It would be easy to tease her if things don’t work out with this guy and she asks about meeting up again.”

        yep but don’t trigger her ASD or harp on the guy. Tease her a little and then pretend it never happened, the other guy didn’t exist, and push for the meetup and lay ASAP. Not just a date, her ego will be crushed from the last guy so she’ll try to make you her new Provider to show everyone that she can get a new BF, so you want to take her on a day 2 with logistics planned that will lead to sex. Cause she won’t txt you the day after she breaks up, her ego will be hurt, she’ll txt you after a couple weeks of being broken up when she’s horny as fuck lol

        Anyway let us know how it goes! Good luck!

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 6:44 am cryo

        Jesus Christ man, you’re devoting far too much thought to some online bitch who already has you on the backburner. Just forget it, go find hotter girls, and stay away from the “dating” frame that you’ve so obviously fallen into.

        If you absolutely have to degrade yourself for this girl, YaReally’s advice is sound, but I wouldn’t send some “text me if it doesn’t work out” bullshit, that just indicates too much availability and “I’ll be there for you” betaness.

        And don’t try to tell me this girl is worth it because she’s superhot, ain’t no online bitch that’s anything more than a 7.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:09 pm YaReally

        “you’re devoting far too much thought to some online bitch who already has you on the backburner. Just forget it, go find hotter girls”

        Nah, nothing wrong with learning and testing stuff out to gain experience. You can’t “Next” a girl who hasn’t fucked you, that’s her Nexting YOU. 🙂

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:41 pm Jason

      “k thx bai!”

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm Nomennovum

      Wait to respond till after your scheduled drinks and text, “Sorry. Who’s this?” When she answers, text back, “No problem. I was out last night anyway.

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 9:17 am walawala

      @sidewinder I had a text exchange on OK Cupid with a girl. She was clearly up for it, and my text game was good. We exchanged numbers and she saw my photo and wrote something like:

      “Oh, sorry, you don’t look like I thought you would.”

      I waited a day and replied:

      “Are you russian?”

      Her: “Sorry I’m not russian”

      Me: 1 day later: Oh. i thought becuz of thick arms u were russian”.

      She was clearly asian. Best that I could think of…a hook…then a neg.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:10 am Matthew King

        “What’s your name gorgeous? Hunh? What’s your name?”

        “Fuck off.”

        “Oh really? Are you Russian?”

        /Old School Robin Williams Game

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  21. on May 13, 2013 at 2:50 pm Sheila

    Why is being a virgin such a turn off for guys?
    This guy wouldn’t date me because I’m a virgin. He said to come back when I’d lost it to someone else and then we can be together. He said he doesn’t want to have to teach me, but I don’t think it can be that hard. I am a 30 year old woman, so is it a turn off being a virgin and this old?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm Orion

      If your 30 and a virgin you should be looking at marriage only, not jumping on the carousel late. Being a virgin gives you some value in that market, in the dating market you are as you find at a disadvantage.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:13 pm itsme

      if you’re 30 and a virgin (a real one, not an anal or dp or train virgin), there’s probably something else wrong with you.

      do you look like cigstache?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 3:22 pm earl

      You have higher value than those guys and they know it.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:23 pm V

      It’s probably less of a turn off and more of a perception that you wont put out and they are wasting their time with you.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm V

      Could also be the assumption that you will necessarily want a commitment or get too attached.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 4:58 pm Matthew King

      He said to come back when I’d lost it to someone else and then we can be together.

      Ha! What did you say?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:18 pm corvinus

      No. He just wants sex, and is not interested in marriage. The stereotype is you fuck sluts and marry virgins.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:44 pm Mann

        God you guys are stupid that comment was obvious sarcasm

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 6:38 pm rapscallion

      Guys are not turned off by virgins. Tell your buddies, you banged a virgin the other night, and it would be high-fives all round.

      Sheila, its not the fact that you’re a virgin that repelled this guy. It’s that you’re a 30 year old virgin!

      There are only a few reasons a woman could reach the age of 30 without ever having sex and most of them are not good.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:51 pm Patriarch

        This post right here sums it up.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 11:52 pm Sheila

        I was pretty sick for most of my 20s in and out of hospital, which is why I haven’t done it. I’m well now, so that’s why I’m behind in these things.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 8:12 am Hugh G. Rection

        Sounds like even more trouble.

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 5:58 am Karl

      You are in a EXCELLENT Marriage Market Value situation. Don’t blow it by jumping on the cock carousel. Become the bestest possible wife material (by reading here, and throughout the Extremist Manosphere, and ALSO throughout the Female-Dating-Rules-flavored ‘sphere). Insist on ==no== sex before marriage. Finally, you must become the one woman in a hundred million who doesn’t meet guys by accident. You must VISUALIZE where your appropriate husband-material is spending time (engineering conventions, or the like)… and deliberately immerse yourself in those circles.

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  22. on May 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm YaReally

    Virgins get too clingy too soon. And they’re shy/nervous about everything and the guy ends up having to teach them and get them to loosen up and convince them they won’t break his dick by stroking it…it’s a lot of hassle to some of us.

    Some guys love that shit and like getting to be the authority and teach a girl and all that, but some guys just like chicks who know wtf they’re doing lol. Don’t take it personal, the guy is just trying not to break your heart or waste either of your time.

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  23. on May 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm earl

    “If you think I’m going home with you…”

    “I wouldn’t want to get you pregnant.”

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 pm Revo Luzione

      Pitch-perfect.

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  24. on May 13, 2013 at 4:56 pm Ken_in_SC (@Ken_in_SC)

    Sheila, sex with a virgin can be messy and painful to both parties. Have your hymen clipped by a doctor. Don’t mention it to prospective partners until after the fact.

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  25. on May 13, 2013 at 5:21 pm whorefinder

    Why is “Rape!” an unacceptable response here?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm Patriarch

      Whorefinder, as far as I am concerned the only solution nine times out of ten is rape.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:44 pm whorefinder

        WRONG!

        It is acceptable RAPE out of RAPE times!

        Except in the rare, wonderful case of…CLOWN RAPE!

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 8:42 pm Patriarch

        You are guilty sir of rape in in the rapeth degree.

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  26. on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 pm Mitch Cumstein

    There’s a girl right now who is expecting an apology from me. We’ve been on-again, off-again for the past few years because she lives in another state. So, I started dating another girl who lives in my city without telling the original girl. When she found out, I framed it as doing what I need to do, “We’ll re-evaluate when and if you move back to my city”, but she was pissed about that.

    Pissed off girl is now possibly moving back to my hometown. I’m not seeing anyone seriously. My question isn’t can I get back into her pants again (I can). It’s, can an on-again, off-again relationship ever successfully become something more substantial?

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 6:22 pm Patriarch

      If you apologize to her you will ruin everything. Do not take her drama away from her. Imagine how she fondly tells other guys who try to get in her pants about how much of an asshole you are, and they can almost hear her voice quiver while she relives every pleasurable moment of agony you cast on her head. The worse you treat them, the more they love you.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:26 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Treat ’em ruff, get yer muff.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:31 pm Mitch Cumstein

        Oh, I know not apologizing is rocket fuel. I’m wondering if anything long-term can be made of this. The on-again shtick is getting tired after a while.

        And HSWwSSF, I shared your pics from April 1st with some coworkers. The one guy who went with the girl on the right is pissed off at me to this day.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:47 pm Patriarch

        Depends on how into she is. From my experience the more you torment them with relationship uncertainty the more they want to win you over. Until shes begging for it I wouldn’t give in to a relationship, and even then I wouldn’t call it a relationship. I have this one girl who has a rocking body but a butter face. I’ve played with her and led her on for almost three years now. She’s cheated on four boyfriends with me. Truth be told I treat her like dogshit, yet she’s almost always available when I want her. I could and would probably date her if I weren’t convinced I can do better. Sounds like this girl is well on her way to being your own personal “Amber”(her name) if you play your cards right.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 6:47 pm YaReally

        Don’t apologize, obviously. But you already know that.

        If you want to turn her into a GF, slowly start seeing her more than once a week. Let her slowly “win you over”. Like if you normally kick her out after sex, let her sleep over. If you normally never hang with her on Fri/sat nights, do that. If she’s never met your friends, bring her out sometime. If you’re out, shoot her a txt and head to her place earlier than booty-call hour.

        If you do it all too fast, you’ll come off as needy. If you let her slowly win you over, she invests and between that feeling of investment/winning and the oxytocin from seeing eachother more than once a week, you’ll end up with a GF.

        The bigger Qs to ask yourself are:

        1) why are you on-again off-again? Who initiates that? Her or you? Or is it a result of circumstances (she had to move away etc)? Is this a relationship you WANT more involvement in or is it going to be too much drama?

        2) do you want her as a GF? Or do you want to keep things casual fuckbuddy style but just make things more “secure” (ie – a long-term/reliable fuckbuddy that’s basically only fucking you but still doesn’t do girlfriend stuff)? Or do you want a GF who lets you bang other girls on the side (might be too late for that option)?

        Be aware that the more she gets attached to you the sooner the “ultimatum” of “I can’t see you anymore if you keep banging other girls, I love you too much to share you” comes knocking on your door lol

        But ya, you can make it work.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:01 pm Patriarch

        Yeah Yareally has got it laid out for ya man. Like he said though, do not do it in a quick needy creepy way. A little romance goes a loooonnngggg way. I’ve fucked up a perfectly good thing way too many times moving too fast by acting like too much of a boyfriend before I should have. Just gonna have to read the situation

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:11 pm Mitch Cumstein

        We dated a few years ago. Very strong relationship, until she had to move away for her dream job. I told her she had to do what she had to do, so she went. I visited once a month or so, until we realized it wasn’t practical and ended it.

        I went home and moved on with my life, and she always came back. Always re-initiated through text, phone call. Every time she comes home to visit, we hang out and hook up. I think she resented me when she went back to her place, so I stopped talking to her and got into a LTR with someone else.

        Fast forward a few months and she reaches out. She tells me how upset she is, how much she wants me back, how she wants to move home to be with me and get hitched. I was already planning on breaking up with my gf, but didn’t tell her this (I’m baaaad). She told me she was dating someone. He’s religious and they never fucked (if she did with anyone, I’d next). So, we broke up with our respective partners. We started seeing each other again, she talked about moving back, until she pulled back. Said she couldn’t get out of her contract.

        So now, she’s coming to town to visit for a few days and her dream job here is open. Naturally, she’s going to look into that job while she’s here, but she’s acting naive about what she wants with me.

        I could act aloof when she visits, but she’s only here a few days. If I act too disinterested, she’ll just blow me off and move on. At least, I think so. Thanks for all the advice, BTW.

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:26 pm YaReally

        Oh ya no you’re good then. Easy peasy, I thought it was going to be a complicated drama-filled situation lol

        When she’s up encourage her to check out that job. She’ll know that’s a hint but if that doesn’t seem like enough of a hint, flat out tell her alpha style that you want her and want her to get that job so you can be together again. You guys have a history so you confessing your intent isn’t the same as if you had never dated before and were needy/desperate. You’ll be providing her RELIEF, telling her “these other girls never mattered, I want YOU.”

        She’s just a bit insecure/unsure of where you stand because she knows the guy SHE was with didn’t mean shit to her but she doesn’t know if the girl you were with “stole” you or not so she doesn’t know where she stands with you…which would be fine in other situations but in this one where she’d have to uproot her life to chase you and you have limited face-time to make your intentions known, go ahead and play your cards. She’s probably even holding back some cards because she isn’t sure if its safe to reveal them yet but her jealousy over the other girl and even mentioning there’s a job there tells you she wants you.

        A girl’s biggest fear is that you’ll replace her. They care more about you getting feelings for another girl than sticking your dick in one. If you want to really solidify it or she hassles you about the other girl you can drop stuff like “well I’m a man, I couldn’t just not have sex like your weird BF lol but hanging out with other girls just made me realize that they’re not you and that I don’t have the same connection with them that we’ve always had. Honestly, seeing other girls just made me miss you, but I didn’t want you to uproot your life for me.” She’ll be blowing the interviewer’s dick trying to get that job after that speech…although that may be counterproductive. Lol

        Anyway it’s a deal from there. Then just don’t become a beta bitch in your relationship lol. It’s fine to let a girl know you want/love her, you just have to do it on your terms and in an alpha way and not let her become the center of your universe.

        Good luck, hope it works out! 🙂

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 8:10 pm Mitch Cumstein

        Being open about what I think has backfired in the past, though. She said she wanted to come back and be with me, take a lesser job, and then she backed out. When I called her out and recounted all the lovey-dovey stuff she said, her response was, “Well, that’s the way I felt at the TIIIME.” Zero accountability from a woman regarding her words? Hamster rationalization? Shocking, I know.
        Now this job in our hometown is better than the one she has now. She knows the girl and I are broken up, and she’s being distant when she knows what I want is a relationship with her. Is being unavailable for her visit a terrible idea? Building slight competitive anxiety a must?

        Either way, YaReally, this is for you: http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/internets-erik-estrada-youre-a-welcome-and-appreciated-member-of-this-internet-community.jpg

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:44 pm YaReally

        @Mitch

        lol having tried it unsuccessfully before is an important detail.

        Still tho, this time around she’s got more jealousy because she knows if she doesn’t jump on board you’ll find a new girl (vs if you had no options and she knew you’d wait around).

        But I would change my answer to not go as balls to the wall with admitting anything because you’ve done it before so she already knows that stuff. I thought she might not have a clue…so you can probably play it cool instead and just let her decide to move.

        On your end I would focus on leaving it open ended, like “ya the other chick was cool but I dunno, you and I feel different to me…” And trail off and don’t come to any conclusions. Let her feel like she still has a little convincing to do instead of what I said earlier.

        On your end just try to focus on “change her mood, not her mind”. Don’t try to convince her with how much her job pays or how convenient blah blah or promise you’ll blah blah…none of that really matters…she’d move there to be a janitor if she was attracted enough. So focus on blowing her mind emotionally while she’s up. I wouldn’t ignore her, personally, I would just focus on pushing her thru a bunch of feelings and leaving her hanging on an open-ended feeling where she feels like if she moves she can resolve/close that and solve that puzzle.

        By pulling away before, after you admitted shit, she demonstrated that she wants a bit of chase and uncertainty and to work for it. That’s why I say it’s an important detail lol she’s giving you a guide of “I want to win you over but not TOO quickly, I need some drama in my life and some emotional roller coaster to make it worth it”

        This could be either because of her personality or just a byproduct of your on/off relationship where she’s just not used to NOT having some anxiety about the two of you so she expects/needs that to feel comfortable. Like if someone you knew who was abusive was suddenly pleasant and happy you’d be weirded out because even tho that’s a better situ its not what’s familiar and it’s almost a relief when they snap again.

        Anyway, so change my advice to: see her, let her know you dig her but don’t give her any conclusions or tell her to move there, and just take her on an emotional rollercoaster while she’s up (even giving her some bad emotions are fine). Avoid trying to logically convince her to move

        Good luck again and thanks for the super gay award lol

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      • on May 13, 2013 at 7:06 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Sounds like this bitch is drunk on Haterade, because she expects — yes, expects — an apology from you as if the two of you were a full-fledged married couple. And for what? Not living in the same city and state? Get the fuck outta here! Her expectations are not based in reality, and it’s her fault she can’t be with you, not the other way around. Who gives a fuck if she’s in your life or not? She can either get with your program or get with another man. Either way, the pussy spigot ain’t gonna stop flowing just because she doesn’t wanna get on board.

        If you do want to see her, you gotta be the first to lay down the rules of engagement or be prepared to fend off her psychological ploys at manipulating your mind. But before you do that, ask yourself these questions and answer honestly.

        – What else does she bring to the table besides a piece of ass?
        – Can she help me in other areas of life outside of the bedroom?
        – How long can she be of value to me before my return on investment comes to a screeching halt and I’m faced with a rapidly depreciating asset?

        As for the April 1st pictures, I knew they’d be big. I just didn’t expect them to be *that* big! Haha! Your co-worker is probably a closet fag who’s too bitter to admit it.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:38 am MattDamon

        Since when are people here taking women’s words for their face value?

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 11:19 am Matthew King

      Mitch Cumstein asked:

      My question isn’t can I get back into her pants again (I can). It’s, can an on-again, off-again relationship ever successfully become something more substantial?

      Whatever you do don’t mention the last name until you get the relationship more “substantial.” Going by just “Mitch” is fine for now.

      And That’s One To Grow On.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 5:25 pm Mitch Cumstein

        Never seen “Caddyshack”? For shame…

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  27. on May 13, 2013 at 7:01 pm Anti-Blue Pill

    More proof of chicks dig bad boy’s (terrorist)

    Teen Fans: Boston Bomber “Too Beautiful To Be Terrorist”
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/13/Teen-fans-Boston-bomber-too-beautiful-to-be-terrorist

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  28. on May 13, 2013 at 7:16 pm rapscallion

    GIRL: If you think I’m going home with you…

    YOU: You couldn’t come to my place anyway. (with a matter of fact delivery)

    Let the hamster chew on that for a bit and more often than not you’ll get…

    GIRL: Why’s that?

    YOU: Coz my neighbours have been complaining about the noise. And to be honest… I think you’d be another screamer.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 7:41 pm Patriarch

      “If you think I’m coming home with you…”
      “Bring the taco bell…and the MOVIE.”
      BADDA BING EH OOOOHHH

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  29. on May 13, 2013 at 7:18 pm Nicole

    Oh, the…old single female author’s mummified remains are found near a poster of skeletal Rosie the Riveter. Is this not poetic?
    http://gawker.com/mummified-body-of-author-found-in-home-over-a-year-afte-504922969?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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  30. on May 13, 2013 at 7:24 pm chieftut

    Interesting analysis

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  31. on May 13, 2013 at 7:32 pm PermanentGuest

    GIRL: If you think I’m going home with you…

    ME: You’re already thinking about sex? How cute/adorable/creepy

    I’ve yet to see a girl recover from this line. Pretty tough to shake.

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  32. on May 13, 2013 at 8:04 pm Canadian Friend

    Sorry to be completely off topic but I have just been informed ( by a 47 year old ) that a 21 year old cute woman finds me quite handsome

    what’s the big deal?

    I’ll be 54 in a few months

    I still got it !

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 9:49 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      The big deal is *you*, my hoser friend! All she has is a piece of ass, and a whole whack of debt from her student loans. You’re financially established, mature, and got something good going for yourself. See the value disparity at play, here? If she’s a dime, you’re a Robert fuckin’ Borden.

      Age is just a social construct that we fabricated. Youth and vitality, on the other hand, are internal states of being. It’s obvious to this girl that she doesn’t see you for how old you are, but for how young you feel. And your youthful energy makes her feel good whenever you’re around.

      You always had it; you just never realized it. Now that you’ve come to this realization, it’s time to show her who’s Daddy.

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 10:04 am Kate

      HAHAHA! Good for you 🙂

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  33. on May 13, 2013 at 9:30 pm Rum

    Even the largest possible explosion of Tannerite is really inadequate to
    teach you guys to..distrust every single thing that the Whore Of Babylon ever tries to say about the oil business.

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  34. on May 13, 2013 at 9:37 pm Rum

    I am not proud of what we did… but There is no way that me and Her could have done those crimes if God was not with us….

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  35. on May 13, 2013 at 9:41 pm dannyfrom504

    late to the party. was going to mention- it’s a shit test, nuke it and walk. every snarky response from a women should be treated as a shit test. cool girls just decline politely. shit women give you shit. nuke ’em and walk away smiling.

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    • on May 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm dave843

      WORD ON THE STREETS

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  36. on May 13, 2013 at 9:45 pm Rum

    Long posts = Fail;..
    Selah…

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  37. on May 13, 2013 at 10:25 pm Tom

    Oh I dunno. There is ALWAYS a better response than saying “sorry”. Saying “sorry” to a woman in any context is lame. Try this instead:

    SHE: “If you think I’m going home with you…”

    HE: “Nope. Wasn’t thinking it. HAPPY to disappoint.”

    Then turn your back and let it stew in her mind for the next …. oh…. 20 years.

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  38. on May 13, 2013 at 10:45 pm Anonymous

    ” If you think I am going home with you?” Deserves an agree-and-amplify:

    “Think? I know.”

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  39. on May 13, 2013 at 11:14 pm the fauvist

    Good line, I’ll be remembering that one.

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  40. on May 14, 2013 at 4:17 am MrMan

    ABC- Always Be Closing

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  41. on May 14, 2013 at 4:37 am krauserpua

    The more I think about it, the more I’m so happy I don’t live in the US. It’s unbelievable how vile and unpleasant your women have become that you have to talk to them like this to stay in the game.

    None of this would fly in the FSU. The girls are too balanced, nice and normal.

    I’m not denying it works in the US. Different class of woman.

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  42. on May 14, 2013 at 6:04 am Karl

    >> She told me she was dating someone. He’s religious and they never fucked

    Show of hands: How many people believe it?

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 10:50 am Canadian Friend

      Women always pretend they never fucked this guy or that guy

      most of them are lying

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  43. on May 14, 2013 at 6:55 am AlmostAnonymous

    /Offtopic
    Beta of the month candidate
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/deidre/4924018/Deidre-daily-drama-Escort-girl-doesnt-want-to-know-since-I-told-her-I-love-her.html

    That’s nuclear strength beta.

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 4:58 pm gunslingergregi

      never say I love you first or second

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  44. on May 14, 2013 at 7:30 am Amanjaw Marcuntte

    oh god the pedestalisation

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 10:11 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      The photographer is soft as shit. If she’s gonna copy some of the great broads in history, she better do them justice.

      Emilia Earhart was the first female pilot. The photog should strap her kid in a plane so that she can become the first 5 year old girl to fly a plane by herself. Best to make funeral arrangements beforehand.

      Hellen Keller was deaf. Better blow out the girl’s eardrums before using sign language to tell her to smile for the camera. The upside is that the girl will always be seen, but never heard.

      Finally, Coco Chanel was a world-reknown fashionista who smoked Gauloise-brand cigarettes. Now, it may be impractical to import the French brand for your daughter to smoke, so a good-ol’ Marlboro stick should do the trick. Teach her how to light her first ciggy, and demonstrate the importance of inhaling. She’s gonna turn into a pack-a-day whore, anyway. Might as well give her a dose of motherly love by showing her how great cigarettes can be.

      There ya have it, folks. Don’t copy your idols unless you wanna be just like them, flaws and all.

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      • on May 14, 2013 at 11:25 am Matthew King

        The photog should strap her kid in a plane so that she can become the first 5 year old girl to fly a plane by herself. Best to make funeral arrangements beforehand.

        Already attempted. And she was a whole two years older!

        BUT WHO COULD HAVE FORESEEN SUCH A TRAGEDY???

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  45. on May 14, 2013 at 7:50 am mahnigga@ghetto.com

    GIRL: If you think I’m going home with you…

    YOU: What?! In the 11th grade i brought home a stray cat and i got grounded for a whole month.Fuck if im doing that again.

    [CH: lol. Funny. Probably not effective, but funny.]

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  46. on May 14, 2013 at 7:55 am JironGhrad

    http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/05/15286-i-wonder-what-jahar-is-thinking-about-right-now-boston-bomber-gains-teenage-lovers/

    Off-topic here, but yet more evidence (with video) that the hamsters are alive and well.

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  47. on May 14, 2013 at 11:13 am Canadian Friend

    Apparently Angelina Jolie has had her breasts removed to prevent cancer from killing her. ( Yahoo news this morning )

    I know this sounds cold and cruel but how many agree with me that Brad Pitt will eventually leave her?

    Of course he will pretend the marriage is over for other reasons, but honestly how many men would still be able to make love to a woman who has no breasts anymore but two scars instead? Especially a man who can have any woman he wants on the planet?

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    • on May 14, 2013 at 6:34 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      “TITS OR GTFO!!!!1!!!1”

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  48. on May 14, 2013 at 12:56 pm Trimegistus

    More data supporting CH:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/what_women_want_qRO8pvoSKeFcqrPSftoi6N

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  49. on May 14, 2013 at 9:29 pm Karl

    re: Angelina Jolie. Plastic Surgery can do amazing things nowadays. But where she did screw up is in announcing it. If she does get dumped, she’s never gonna be a hottie again. She’ll only attract weirdos. Of which there’s still plenty.

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