We have a guest posting today from a reader who passes along a story from his life which illustrates in vivid hues how the Western woman has become severed from the reality of the world and now chooses to live in escapist fantasy. This is an anecdote; there are many more stories like it. Reach a critical mass (heh) of these tragicomedies of the self-swindled and you can kiss America goodbye as a civilizational rampart.
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I hope this email finds you in good heath. As the title suggests I am writing to you as I wish to bear personal witness to the self-destruction of the Western woman. Names and some details have been changed to protect the guilty. Of course you may use my email for your site, but do avoid using my real name. Instead call me… Cornelius… because it in no way resembles my actual name.
A little over ten years ago I met a girl through a friend of a friend. Her name was Francesca. No, this is not a tale of beta woe. Nothing romantic has ever happened between us and there has never been any attraction. Francesca was, even back then, a bit on the chunky side. I didn’t think much of her at first but as I got to know her better I realized we had some things in common and became friends with her. We kept in semi-consistent contact over the years, which has led to the situation today where she is temporarily staying with me while she is looking for a job. The circumstances leading up to this is the (self-destructively) interesting part.
Francesca was a good student in high school and was given a free ride to State-U where she majored in engineering (the same as what I majored in, which is one of the things our friendship was created over). Four years later she graduates and lands a job at well known firm bringing in about $50,000 a year. At this point she is 22 years old. Fast forward to when she turns 25 and we meet one day for lunch and a friendly catch up. She is very bored with her job and feels like she is doing nothing with her life (to be fair to her, I’ve done similar work as she was doing at the well-known-firm and it is very boring) so she has decided to give it all up and go back to college… for a degree in Art. I’m a little vague on the specifics of the degree, but the major she choose has something to do with drawing cartoons. Seems like a bit of an odd choice to me, but meh whatever it’s not my life. This is also where she mentions that she’ll have to take out student loans this time, but is confident everything will turn out ok. Now this did raise a bit of an alarm bell for me because she had been working the past three (or was it four? I’m a little vague on the exact timing) years bringing in $50k while living rent free in her parents home. Didn’t she have any money she could put forward to college? It’s not like she was a big “vacations and shopping sprees” girl. She was an engineer, and had the personality of one to match.
After she was in Art School for a while I ended up moving to a different part of the country for my job. Let’s fast forward again to today. It has been over a year since she graduated from Art School with her degree in… drawing cartoons… or something… and she still has no Art job. We had stayed in touch while she had been in college for a second time and it turns out that there are more art studios where I live than where she has been living, so I agree to host her for a time, while she tries to get on her feet and get an Art job.
Here’s where things take their bizarre (and self-destructive) turns. I haven’t seen chunky Francesca in person in about three years, but when she arrives she has turned into blimped-out Francesca. This was a bit of a startling change to me. When I say blimped-out I want you to understand what I am getting at. Imagine a baby with all its chub and creases. Now imagine a fully grown adult version of all that chub and creases and you’ll get an idea of what Francesca now looks like.
It also turns out that she’s had a falling out with two of her hot friends. By “hot” I mean one of these girls has literally done modeling and the other could if she wanted to. When I asked her about her hot friends she was openly bitter about them, vague as to the cause of the falling out and made the comment that their looks “were the only thing they had going for them”. Well when a girl is model-hot that’s pretty much all she needs. Also, her hot-friends had a free ride to State-U so they couldn’t have been all that stupid. It’s interesting how since Francesca has blimped-out that she now makes regularly derogatory comments about attractive women. Except that it’s not interesting so much as a neon flashing sign of bitterness of Francesca’s own loveless state. In all the years I knew Francesca she had only one boyfriend she was lukewarm to. Perhaps she should have reconsidered while she was still only chunky.
While hanging out together a few times at some local spots she repeatedly mentions how she wishes it were obvious to other people that her and I were not there “together” because she found several of the men rather attractive. She was literally purring at one of them. I told her she should feel free to do whatever she likes in regards to these men, but on the inside I was thinking “madam, your shape is round and not even vaguely woman-like, none of these men would want you regardless of how much alcohol they had”.
Also, she seems to have formed a pathological attraction to my dog. Francesca will follow my poor black lab around the house trying to treat it like human child. He’ll only put up with so much of that before he will actually find places to hide (I never knew he could fit behind the sofa… I guess he never had the proper motivation before). This from a a woman who has adamantly and always held that she was never going to have children.
After she was here for about two weeks, we decide to visit some local attractions. While seeing the sights we stop at a local Starbucks for some caffeine and a seat. While there we engage in an interesting discussion about her student loans. Right now she is in loan deferment, but that time is soon coming to a close. To my shock it turns out that she took out $175,000 in student loans for her Art degree in drawing cartoons… at a 15% interest rate… and they expect her to pay it back in 10 years, which means she will be paying back about $338,000. (O_o) My calculator tells me that this is about $2800 per month just to cover her student loans. In case you’re wondering: no, her field of Art does not pay the kind of starting salary to cover that. Her attitude is that the companies that gave her these loans need to be reasonable and work with her. If she gets to the point where she can’t pay and they ruin her credit her attitude is “oh well, what can they really do to me?” (o_O) She also said that if she knew she would be graduating into this kind of economy that she never would have done it. Which makes me wonder exactly what kind of economy we would have to have where $2,800 / month in student loans for a degree in cartoon drawing would make sense.
Now I don’t know about you, but if I were in her position I’d be in crisis mode about now. Next Friday she will have been here for a month and as far as I can tell she spends most of her time in her room browsing the web or watching Mad Men. I did let her know at the start that after a “month or two” she would have to start paying rent if she wished to continue to stay here. As far as I know she has made no attempt to find even a part-time job.
What has happened to the West? There are days I seriously wonder if I am not surrounded by a large amount of people who have basically become un-moored from reality. And what happened to my friend? Francesca goes from pudgy nerdy engineering chick to blimped-out, money vacuuming, introverted, child-shaped-emotional-holing, rage against the pretty hate machine.
May the Gods of the Dark Enlightenment guard your safety,
Cornelius
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Greg Cochran says that the trends currently underway in the West are unsustainable. America as an advanced technological and moral civilization is doomed, absent some sort of active intervention to thwart the collapse, whether that collapse takes the form of a sudden conflagration or a slow deterioration. But of course any such intervention would first require the ruling class accept the facts of the dysgenic trends, and stop their wallowing in pretty lies and leapfrogging for status whoring points. I have my doubts the facts will ever be honestly admitted by the lords of lies, so doom it is, and doom we shall get, unless by some cultural alchemical miracle the equalists, leftoids and feminists do a private about-face and essentially craft public policies refuting everything they believe in for the greater good of the nation and her posterity.
It is to HA.
The human ego is much too intransigent for that kind of common sense. Most likely scenario: bitterly clinging to shibboleths until the last iPad flickers out.
Next likely scenario: secession. Or, if the portals of hell open, bloodbath.
In the meantime, we shrug and tappity-tap pleading betaboy texts in our cells as another Western woman sacrifices her inherited bounty and blessed fortune at the altar of fudge brownies, caustic gogrrl-itude, useless art degrees, mountainous college debt, infertility, anthropomorphized animals, racial dispossession, cock carouseling, and the distractions of a sick and twisted entertainment culture intent on assuring her complicity in the humiliation of her heritage and of her men.
Well, not everyone. Your ever-gracious host shrugs, but only after he has cruelly driven The Shiv to the hilt, and tickled vital organs with its glittering tip. The writhing torment of enemies and fools brings voyeuristic pleasure, and great satisfaction knowing that it can never be said of The Shiv Wielder that he saw the face of a malignant foe cresting the hill… but did nothing.
And thus the reason I treat these broads the way I do…with no guilt whatsoever.
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Heartiste: “doomed… collapse… conflagration… secession… bloodbath…”
God, it’s so refreshing to see utterly truthful words like that being posted at a heavily-travelled mainstream website.
I’ve spent so much time having those kinds of sentiments censored by Komment Kontrol over at That Other Site that it’s like a breath of fresh air just to see them in print.
Thanks.
And awesome post.
Thanks also to the correspondent who related the story.
And lotsa luck getting that crazy fat bitch outta his crib.
Before it’s all said and done, he might just need to call the men in the white coats.
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Mark Steyn warns of ‘serious secession movements’ if drift toward socialism not reversed
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Secession would probably be a positive development at this point, so it will never be allowed. The left will never willingly let go of those evil racist rapist white boys who pay their bills for them. And imagine if someone set up a state that embodies the beliefs held here and on the blogs listed on the right sidebar. Such an experiment could NEVER be permitted. The rest of America would have to wall itself in for the same reason East Germany did. How are you supposed to run a socialist paradise with that damned light shining up on the hill?
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Severus.shtml
“I’ve been thinking about fault lines, and fractures, and diversity, and when it’s all going to implode. I hope I’m still around because it is going to be one gorgeous show. Few things are as entertaining as a truly good disaster.
What is going to kill us is diversity. It isn’t working well. By diversity I mean here the intermixing of large groups of people holding utterly differing and opposed values. There is too damned much diversity in America. It isn’t getting better.
The current donnybrook over guns is not a political question, like whether to raise or lower taxes. It is a clash of civilizations, a confrontation between two groups who seriously don’t like each other and hold irreconcilably different views of life. The two would be happier in separate countries, an idea that has occurred to them. It is that bad.
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How long can a nation of pickpockets, beggars, and con-men steal from each other before the whole shebang falls down? We are about to find out. Diversity is our strength. Yes indeed. “
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Ha! And the Welfare Pickup trucks of theRed State ubsidy recipients will never give up the handouts that we here in more-patent-getting NY and California are able to generate through our disabled little “leftoid” brains. We may be leftoid dimwits, but apparently you like the money we generate for you. How heroic of you.
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more like ‘steal’, but who’s counting?
New York doesn’t manufacture much. Other than usury and financial extortion.
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Then why all the opposition to our desire for seccession? This net transfer out nonsense you blue staters like to point to is a load of BS. Federal money goes to the red states mostly in the form of military expenditures, outlays for federal agencies operating in red states and federal retirees. Its cheaper to do business in Red states, so the federal government has been shifting assets to red states for decades now. Welfare expenditures are much lower in red states than blue. You pay more taxes because you have a higher cost of living and must earn about 50% more to have a comparable sandard of living, hence more tax dollars to send elsewhere. The fact is, Blue states would be SOL without Red states. Go back to whanking on the subway.
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Most of the discretionary funds from the Blue states are also sent down to the red states in order to implement socialism so the likes of you will think we’re becoming civilized. We don’t need nor want any of it, but if your passing it out, we’ll take it.
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I’d wager the majority of said welfare recipients will be moving, provided you don’t continue to gentrify them out of your states.
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Lee Kwan Yew, legendary Singapore statesman, went on the record saying this in an interview with Charlie Rose: “Multiculturalism will destroy America. Do you make the Hispanics Anglo-Saxons in culture or do they make you more Latin American in culture?”
I think we all know the answer to that.
See the story and video interview here: http://thekansascitian.blogspot.com/2013/02/dont-take-fruit-pickers-says-sage-of.html
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Wow! It would be interesting (for lack of a better word) to read Francesca’s version of the story… that would be on xojane, of course.
People who believer their dogs are humans (and treat them better than they treat fellow humans)… can’t stand them but they are all around me.
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All women do this. Every. Single. One. If one is walking his dog and sees a women walking her dog, one knows the girl’s dog will be one of the nasty ones who attacks the man’s dog. Victor at http://www.boldanddetermined.com has a good post explaining why this is the case. It has to do with the female owner providing no leadership or training and treating the dog as a fuzzy baby human.
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Well, I am a woman who has two children and no dog 🙂 And I get nasty looks from dog owners when I lift my two year old when we pass by a dog that looks dangerous to me… sometimes I get nasty comments too…
Without having read the article you link to, the explanantion makes some sense… dogs as-if babies and babies as-if toys… so you get spoiled dogs and spoiled children.
Anyway, I know my opinion is impopular, but I think keeping dogs in apartments is stupid… dogs are for farm-houses only if you ask me.
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I really dislike dogs, and cats too. Animals are so annoying.
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You are right to lift your 2 year old away from dogs.
Even though most dogs are nice, some are unpredictable.
When I was 15 years old some friends had a Dalmatian. I would play with the dog often, the dog knew me and liked me. He was not a vicous dog.
And then one day as we are all sitting on the floor listening to music the dog walked up to me and bit me in the face and to this day no one knows why.
he only manage to catch my upper lip so there was only little damage. The scar is gone now( that was 40 years ago )
I have never ever trusted a dog ever since, even a nice friendly dog.
I know they very rarely go bezerk but unlike guns they have a mind of their own.
Keep lifting your 2 years old away from dogs.
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“When I was 15 years old some friends had a Dalmatian.”
Somewhat OT, so I’ll keep it short.
As soon as I saw “Dalmatian”, I knew what was coming. Dalmatians ARE unpredictable. Might be perfectly friendly for years, and then one day will do something vicious right out of the blue, exactly as you describe.
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That is not random dog behavior. The Dalmation was not crazy. That is how dogs discipline those they view as younger and lower in status. They nip the face. Maybe the dog didn’t like how you were acting or you were shouting or your were sitting up in a threatening posture. Dogs read people better than people read people.
Now the dog’s owners were not doing a good job teaching the dog that it cannot bite people, but for some dogs they only know how to use their mouths and can’t help but use them.
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dog-owners, men and women both, have rationalization MARMOTS.
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Thanks, you just brightened my day. Still laughing out loud.
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Been following your work elsewhere. Keep up the good work.
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There are plenty of cases of LEASHED dogs attacking small children as they walk by. Especially pit bulls. If somebody is walking one of those things without a muzzle, they should be the ones who get a nasty look and nasty comments. That’s like walking around waving a loaded gun at people.
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No it’s not. A pit bull is not a “vicious dog”. A well-trained and well bred pit bull is less dangerous than other types of dogs.
[CH: This is horseshit. Do you not believe dog breeds have genetically-influenced temperaments? You sound like a blank hound slatist. Pit bulls in the US are a breed bred for viciousness. The sooner the breed is retired from existence, the better.]
How can I be so sure? Dogs that are bred for dog-fighting are bred and trained not to attack humans under any circumstances. If your dog attacks the ref,that is an automatic disqualification, and you don’t get your money.
Dalmatians,Border Collies, Chows,Rottweilers,Dachsunds,Dobermans,even German Shepherds are far more dangerous than pit bulls, as these dogs were either not bred for dog fighting,where attacking a human costs other humans money, or were bred specifically to attack people.
Pit bulls are decent and loyal dogs and have been known to save children and their masters by pulling them out of rivers or burning buildings or off of train tracks. They get a very undeserved rap.
Dalmatians,Dobermans,and Dachsunds are all known for vicious behavior, especially towards the defenseless, and nobody compares them to a loaded gun.
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Hm, that’s interesting…the problem, though, is that a good percentage of pits out on the street are ill trained and poorly taken care of (due to how intensely the underclass seems to gravitate towards them.) I ended up walking a few miles through Oakland recently and literally every other house, at least, on many streets seemed to have a few pitbulls barking wildly from behind a fence. Somehow I doubt all of those dogs received competent training and socialization.
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I’d agree that the lack of leadership is an issue. Most women aren’t natively capable of consistent, strong, unemotional leadership, which is what you need with dogs. Even my mom (raised on a ranch, should know better) is treating the family dogs more and more like children, the older she gets.
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When a woman mentions she has a dog on her dating site profile, I always ask if the dog sleeps in her bed.
about 95% of women say yes the dog sleeps in her bed.
then I ask if she kisses the dog on the mouth/snout
about 80% of women say yes they do.
Then I tell them I am not interested.
why?
because when she would come over to my place she has to bring the dog ( you can leave a cat alone for many days with food and water but not a dog) which means the dog will sleep in my bed.
I refuse to let any dog sleep in my bed. Dogs smell bad permanently ( that is why wet dogs have such a strong foul odor )
and I tell them that I don’t kiss women who kiss their dogs because dogs lick their own rectum all day among many other things they lick in their dog day.
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IN her bed? And kissing on the snout? That’s… that’s disgusting.
I’ll admit, my cats sleep on the foot of my bed sometimes, but they know better than to try to crawl under the covers. I love animals, but… limits. Limits are very, very necessary.
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I prefer no pets in the bed but cats are not as bad, they don’t smell bad and they take little space.
You would be surprised how many women sleep with their dog and kiss them on the mouth
It happened again last week, a good looking woman wrote to me ( blonde blue eyes 5’7″) on a dating site, and when she mentioned she had to go walk the dog every night at 10 pm I asked if it slept in her bed – yes it did – and it is a large dog.
and then I asked if she kissed it on the mouth; she switched topic ( that was trough email ) and never answered the question…which means she does kiss it on the mouth
because a lot is done in writing on dating sites it is easier ( for me anyway a shy man who could use a boost in self confidence) to ask such questions
and I am shocked at women’s answer
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Licking their butts and balls is nowhere near to the worst thing that dogs do with their mouths. Don’t get me wrong, I like dogs, but I won’t let them lick my face and definitely won’t kiss them on their snouts. Gross.
Cats lick their asses too, but at least they don’t eat feces and they generally don’t try to “kiss” people. At most, they’ll sniff at your face if you’ve been eating something they find interesting.
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Forget about it; I don’t like any pets in the home. Animals shouldn’t be sharing the same living space, let alone sharing saliva and other bodily fluids. There are many diseases people get from their pets. Plus, if you like an environment that smells and looks clean and fresh, don’t bring animals into your home. As kids we were never allowed pets. Both my parents would never hear of it. My mom would always look down on mothers who allowed their kids to have pets, saying their houses are filthy, lol. She would warn us never to eat in a house that had pets, especially cats. She used to say the cats climb on the kitchen counters and their hairs get into all the food. I feel 100% the same way. My mom is so right.
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I think Canadian Friend and Lily are my soulmates. Such a rare view in today’s decadent world. Having pets is childish, period. Having animals in the house is uncivilized.
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The mark of stupidity and general IQ on the wane. Pets have been useful for centuries. Our ancestors proof of civilization was the fact that we could domesticate animals and make them serve us. The problem is that many here don’t seem to understand the difference between pets and adopted whiny children.
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@J.M.
The only way pets make sense is if you live on a farm or have a ranch. As long as the animals are kept outside, it’s doable. Bringing them indoors, is the problem here. People and animals shouldn’t live in the same living space. They spread diseases. Also, washing hands after you handle them is a good idea. I know most of you are not keen on hand washing, but it’s a good habit to have. People who wash their hands regularly don’t get sick as often. If you live with pets and you’re constantly petting them, and they jump on your beds, sofas, and tables, there isn’t much room for cleanliness. Some people don’t care and have lower standards, but some of us don’t like it.
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That’s absolutely disgusting. I don’t like dogs anyway, they’re loud and smelly and unpredictable. I’ve met a few dogs I really like, but I still wouldn’t want my house smelling like dog. We have a small cat who is quiet and well-behaved. She’s not allowed on the bed and wouldn’t dream of trying. She has her own cat bed and can shed and lick her butt there all she wants. Pets are fine, but they’re not people and they don’t share our germs. Treating them like children doesn’t seem healthy.
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J.M.
When an animal serves a useful purpose to its owner, I can understand why they’d want it around.
But the modern trend is for having pets just for emotional fulfillment, and needing a different species for emotional fulfillment is an indication of immaturity and instability.
Being so desperate to have an animal to pet and cuddle with that one is willing to have themselves, their clothing, and their home full of animal hair, and have to do chores like clean up poop, is a feeling i can’t understand in the slightest.
– W
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It’s great to read this, because I say similar things and always get looks of horror and disbelief back in response (not that I care, particularly.)
Cats and dogs are cool when they serve a purpose of some sort, such as hunting dog/guard dog or mouser (cat). This is how it’s been with domesticated animals for pretty much all of human history. Today, women (and more than a few men) seem to view them as animate stuffed animals.
It is a truly a revolting sight to witness a woman “mother” her pet. It’s understandable, though, I suppose. That’s what women are programmed to do and, given the very un-natural conditions of modern life, it’s inevitable that their instincts would still bubble up to the surface, albeit expressed in perverse ways.
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This is also why all American human children are out of control. It’s the same reason. Parents are clueless.
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Ah yes, the unhealthy dog obsession thing. A lot of the worst behaved dogs seem to be in the hands of the pet mafia. I mean the owners who call them their babies and write three or four thousand snippy messages in response to any MSM article about dogs. The attachment seems to make them feel personally hurt every time somebody points out their dog is misbehaving, so it’s usually an ill-trained animal relieving itself wherever it happens to be and their houses stink like p!ss as a result. Yapping at everyone all the time because they’re too overprotected to have been in a real fight, and it’s usually some 12-pound laprunt that thinks it could beat up a rottweiler. Maybe these owners could stand to get a (fe)male action plan together and do better with their lives generally so they won’t be so codependent with their dog.
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In one of the best dog training books ever written, “Beyond Basic Dog Training”, Diane Bauman writes in the introduction that “While I may live with Little People in Fur Coats, when I train, I train DOGS.” The least happy and least content dog out there is the one that’s unsure who the Alpha is. Dogs need that, and its tantamount to abuse not to give it to them.
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The least happy and least content dog out there is the one that’s unsure who the Alpha is. Dogs need that,
replace ‘dog’ with ‘female’. truth value stays the same.
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I love dogs – at least ones that haven’t been wrecked by a bad owner. But as my old man was wont to say, if you’re gonna own a dog, you gotta be smarter than the dog. It’s not hard to train your dog to be a good family member and good citizen out in public, and with very few exceptions, it’s only the owner’s failings that you see reflected in a badly behaved dog. (Granted, some dogs are a little more likely to kick other dog’s asses or to lose patience with idiots than others, but it is still true.
Dogs are awesome and, as Nixon noted, if you want a friend, get a dog. Shit, even cats can make amusing, enjoyable, halfway decent pets if you know how to handle them. Catladies and ShittylittledogGirls simply don’t, nor do a lot of scared looking betaboys with dogs pulling at the leash and snapping at other dogs and kids.
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i don’t have that problem as I beat the shit out of my dog daily.
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spot on Joe.
OT, but the whole pit-bull scare propaganda I see is bullshit. Pit-bulls are dogs that have been selectively bred for the most alpha traits. They are fierce, strong, and protective with an unshakeable loyalty to their pack. Like any alpha creature they need a strong dominant leader.
Yet society has a feminine unwillingness to accept that a human owner is 100% to blame. Hence we demonize the breed.
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That was Truman, not Nixon, but good points.
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I like dogs and cats and think they can be loving and loyal companions in their own way, but they are not human beings. I automatically judge people (nearly always women) who refer to their dogs or cats as “my babies” or “my children.” They’re not kids, they’re domesticated mammals who have been genetically selected for cuteness and dependence on human beings. Pretending otherwise just makes you look mentally unstable.
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I read somewhere that the amount of pets given human names in recent years has skyrocketed. To consider this a negligible occurrence would be unwise.
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@Mavala (mother & wife)
“People who believer their dogs are humans (and treat them better than they treat fellow humans)…”
If you pay attention, most dog and cat owners are liberal. Liberals love rasing animals in their houses. Conservatives, not so much. Who has time or desire to clean after a dog when you have an actual job as opposed to being an activist?
Liberals also can’t distinguish between the “rights” of humans and animals. They either think the rights of both are equal, or they think animals have far more rights than humans, because humans are essentially bad as they are ruining the planet with their technology and their development (exploiting the planet’s resources). They think humans should go back to living in villages, raising their own food, driving bicycles or pushing carts and tongas, and stop using all technology because it’s destroying the habitat of animals who are the true original inhabitants of the planet. After all, we humans either evolved from other animals or have been placed here by intelligent beings form out of space.
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I live in a heavily conservative area and everyone here has dogs and horses. I’m no liberal, but you’re living in a cartoon world.
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The more I watch “The Dog Whisperer” the more I learn about humans. It’s always the human’s fault. Women are usually terrible when it comes to fulfilling the “pack leader” role that dogs crave.
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I don’t have or want a dog, but I watch dog whisperer whenever I can, purely from game purposes.
When it comes to body language, it’s way better than “In The VIP”.
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That wasn’t beta? Ok….
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My good friend fell into a similar trap with a non-fattie, but still crazy broke girl. He eventually paid her $10k to move out of his apt. Not joking. Just for her to GTFO.
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Good post Cornelius.
That said, I was a little surprised to read that you are actually thinking of letting this odious nut-job move in with you on a more permanent basis.
Here are a few points you may wish to consider before making such a move;
1) Being seen out and about with an ugly fat chick is a massive DLV. You are effectively, deselecting yourself wherever you go.
2) Having daily contact with these irrational, entitlement, snowflakes tends to grind on one over time and can effect even the most grounded guy’s sense of well being.
3) Once you accept rent from her she will gain a legal foothold and may prove hard to shift in the future.
Cornelius. these lunachicks are walking time bombs. You would be well advised to kick her out ASAP and have nothing more to do with her.
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Well then….HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was comedy gold. Cornelius. Enjoy the decline, my friend.
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Yet another irony of bringing women into the workforce: thanks to affirmative action they generally make more than men (at least, on the rare occasion where they do as much work) and yet they blow all of it.
Guys are broke nowadays – lord knows I am – because of how hard it is to find jobs; but those of us who do have money are frugal with it, and when we do work we tend to save, since we know we’re going to be unemployed soon.
The women, however, somehow manage to find a way to blow all of it as soon as they make it. It’s mind boggling. And despite clustering in the jobs and out-competing the men (though complaints), they still expect a man with more money than them.
These women have become worthless for anything beyond a pump and dump, and most of them are too fat or too caustic to even be worth that.
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It’s the great paradox of our time. The women all have jobs and can’t find a husband that meets their base standards (namely, makes more than them) so they can stop working (although they can’t admit they don’t like working or the Feminists will reject their girl club membership). Men don’t have jobs. Women have jobs (they don’t really want) that men could be working. Women also tend to underachieve at these jobs due to incompetence or a general lack of motivation. Who are the most highly motivated workers?
Married men, fathers, and those about to become either. The guys that would be getting married are largely out of work and instead the economy is stuck with women who concern themselves more with things like “workplace mood” and other nonsensical concepts. Part of the reason we’re still in a recession, alongside flat-out idiotic policies from DC, is we’re waiting for a female labor force to haul us out. Derp.
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I’m going to explain to you why a $3,000 handbag *is* a big deal and why, correspondingly, you are a loser and you prove everything CH writes about here.
Women, when they become lawyers and make some money, like you, spend *all* of their money on themselves, buying shoes and handbags and jewelry and other pretty, shiny things. A woman need not worry about saving for the future, not for her kids and not even for herself. A man will take care of that, no matter what. Some day, you will get married and have kids. I’m not even talking about the obvious—that you’ll stop working or work for fun part time. I’m talking about GBFM’s point about past, present, and future earnings. The house you buy with your hubby, no doubt, at least $3,000 of the down payment, which you will take for granted, will be *his* $3,000 that he saved during his mid 20s by applying delayed gratification to himself. He didn’t buy a $3,000 useless object. He bought himself a guitar, sure, but he felt real guilty when he bought the $700.00 one. Not the $3,000.00 one he really wanted, which is actually substantively better and would have helped his playing improve and sound better. Nope. He didn’t even buy himself $1,000 worth of clothes and shoes, that would have improved his confidence as he walked down the street absorbing scorn from little girls like you who saw him as beta because he had $180.00 shoes and not $800.00 shoes. So there will be some of his PAST earnings for present use of your pussy—it will be in the down payment in the house.
(And, of course, in your ring, which will costs at least $6,000 if not $15,000 for the poor schmuck you’ll demand, being “edumacated” little bitch like you are.)
Not to mention that while women in their 20s who make some money like you are spending all of their income on themselves, they are getting numerous free steak dinners per week, paid for by betas and even some alphas. No…you spend all of your money on YOUR RENT, YOUR HANDBAGS, YOUR SHOES, YOUR SUITS, YOUR APARTMENT (which no doubt has expensive furniture).
Fast forward to the marriage and kids. The man will never have a woman take care of him just for him merely having to stay in reasonable shape and provide a dick. No the men who your vagina views as “cheap” or “stingy” are merely responsible men in this world. We have to think about providing for our children in the future.
So yes, a $3,000.00 purse most certainly is a big deal. It’s ridiculous and it proves the selfishness and just plain cluelessness of women.
Fast forward to the divorce (inevitable). Even though the man’s PAST earnings, from before he met you, that he saved by NOT buying $3,000 frivolous things for himself, even though that’s the case, you will get more than half of the “marital property”, even though HE provided probably 90% of the input to acquire that property, using past and present (during marriage) earnings. While you shopped and played and bitched about him to your stupid friends.
And after the divorce…he will now be giving you thousands of dollars a month of “future” – in relation to use of your pussy – earnings. For at least 15 years or so, assuming the kid is 3 when you divorce. He will do this not because of legal requirements of divorce law. No, it will be because as a man he will have a true ineffably describable love for his kids, which came out of his balls. He will have to continue to give you money because that’s what men do.
So when you spend $3,000 on a purse, it is literally pure, unadulterated status whoring. It is literally showing off to other women (and men—stating the value of the ring you’ll demand) that you can spend $3,000 on *nothing* while children are starving.
But ego girl, check this out: the male lawyers in your generation make money too. I have made at least $110,000 every year since I was 27 years old. I had a biglaw job right out of school, because I was number 2 in my class and graded on to law review. I have made over $160,000 the last 3 years. I’m still mid 30s. I have made more money than you. Yet I have never spent $3,000 on myself other than for a car and house down payment (and my ex wife’s ring). I could have. But no…I walk around wearing $500 suits (decent, but not $3,000 suits) and $180 shoes (decent enough, but not $800 shoes.) I drive a reasonable beta care. I give thousands of dollars a month to my ex wife. Her ring cost $8,000 (10 years ago). I had $60,000 in the bank and no debt, when I was 26 and met her…all saved from my job. I came from LOWER middle class parents.
Oh yeah..on that note. Your DAD. Your poor dad also sacrificed his entire life for you and your mom. He also wears cheap shoes while you buy $3,000 purses. He didn’t buy that guitar he wanted.
Meanwhile, you bring your tight little ass and nice legs to work every day wearing a $1500 suit and $500 shoes and a $3,000 bag, right? And $5000 worth of jewelry. You literally wear about $7,000 to work on your little body every day.
The men you look at as gross betas working next to you are smarter and have accomplished more than you. They wear $400 suits and $150 shoes because they are SAVING for their future engagement ring, down payment on their wife’s house (one day ex wife) , and proving for the kids.
A woman literally never has to think about anything but herself, literally. Never has to think about saving for the future, but she will go through life getting mad at any beta who dares mentioning wasting money even once. And she will look at him with a scorn she could not even muster for a convicted rapist.
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I’d argue that dressing/accessorizing for success are essential for a woman – I wouldn’t walk into a job interview with the backpack I take hiking, for example. And women can spot cheap anything from a mile away. Some status whoring is unfortunately necessary. Unless you want to go back to the days where make-up was for whores only.
That being said, I had classmates at my service academy who, while the rest of us were trying to buy gas on our $250/month budgets, would go out and buy $500 handbags for no reason other than “it was cute, guys!” So yeah, some women are insane.
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Well, if you were just wearing an apron around the house, you wouldn’t need all that expensive stuff, now would you?
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If my man’s taking me to the office Christmas party, I’m sure as shit not going to embarrass him in front of his boss by wearing a $50 Old Navy dress that doesn’t fit right.
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God forbid that any modern-day American woman would learn how to have a gal-friend measure her, then cut a pattern, and sew a stunning dress. God Forbid.
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I wouldn’t walk into a job interview with the backpack I take hiking, for example.
Because, as you know, that’s the only alternative to the haute coture needed by today’s woman, ready to smash through the glass ceiling.
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Oh, you broads and your analogies! 😀
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I’m a bad example, but the hiking bag is literally my only other option. I live in Colorado, so just like most everyone else in my socioeconomic demographic, I buy my necessaries at REI. Bag works great for casual use and has held up through all the crap I’ve put it through. And there’s a Michael Kors in my closet, to be used in situations where something nicer is called for.
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What “service academy” did you attend? Was it state-funded? Who provided your $250/month allowance? Was its original mission – that is to say, its purpose when founded – to prepare men, and men only, for careers as officers in the country’s military?
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USAFA, Class of 2008. The federal government paid us. $800 a month, but because of loans for all the shit they issued us, we hardly saw more than $250, and you couldn’t work another job on the side. Trust me, it sucked. I had classmates – male and female – who graduated with $10K or more on their credit cards.
The Air Force is a bit different from the other services – women qualify for almost all the main combat jobs (ie, pilots), and physical standards aren’t lowered for women in UPT. The Air Force Academy was founded to train fighter pilots anyway, not infantry commanders, and women either adapt to the male environment or GTFO. It’s not as disruptive as you might think, although most women come out of there with their femininity permanently destroyed.
You can be pissed about it all you want, but honestly? 98% of all military officers – male and female – end up in desk jobs. Does it really matter if the major planning the general’s retirement party has breasts? If it came down to kicking all women out of the military, or allowing them into the SEALS, though, I’d rather see everyone kicked out. I agree that women can be a huge drain on combat efficacy. But most of what the military does has nothing to do with direct combat.
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“And women can spot cheap anything from a mile away.”
fat lie. the one item of clothing i got the most compliments on from men and women alike was a pair of black motorcycle boots i wore when it rained. they were 15$, from kmart. as a woman myself, i judge another woman’s social standing by her age and the size of her thigh gap, not what she’s wearing. a thin 22 year old in an old navy dress beats a 40 year old blob in designer everything.
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Service academy? Which one?
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“That being said, I had classmates at my service academy who, while the rest of us were trying to buy gas on our $250/month budgets…,”
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It’s so not fair for women to be in the workforce. If women left the workforce en masse, male heads of household would have more money to support their families.
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Damn. Great comment, dude.
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“Damn. Great comment, dude.”
No kidding.
Only thing I’d add: No more Blue State nihilistic femcunts.
Next [and final] wife needs to be a Red State CHRISTIAN girl from a good family.
Marry her young, and then make a bazillion babies with her.
Fifty years from now, she’ll still be at your bedside, as you’re dying.
Holding your hand, tears streaming down her face.
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Actually the betas are the dumbest ones for marrying a woman. They should spend that 3000$ on accessories and style and just fuck girls with game. They’d end up with way more (better) sex AND money.
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Where do you guys find these gems? Why do you date them in the first place?
Don’t forget gentlemen, the only constant in all these failed relationships, is you.
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Instead of spending 15k on a ring and 3k on a down payment, go whoring in Costa Rica 17x and buy yourself a telecaster. Lollolllzzzllol all night long at the fat American girls after banging 40 ticas that are younger tigghter and 30# lighter. Then use your telecaster to get it for free when youre home. Thank me later.
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You need to meet a nice Ukrainian girl.
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He won’t be able to hold-on to any girl because he’s full of emotional baggage and anger towards women. In order to attract and hold-on to a woman, a man needs to be open-minded and good-natured, even while being the alpha in her life. Otherwise, you sound like a man who’s been used and abused by women, and that never translates to being an alpha. After all, it’s implied that alphas don’t let women get to them and/or hurt them emotionally. It’s supposed to be the other way around, right? That’s why he dates strippers and escorts. How much game do you need to get a stripper or escort to sleep with you?
The fact he keeps mentioning PetiteOlive’s one-time splurge on herself (however over the top it was), shows he cares too much about women’s stupidity. If you’re an alpha, you can twist her mind in your direction, never mind her penchant for spending money on luxuries and designer goods. I spend money on clothes, hair, and gym because I like spending on my looks, and it’s my money and I have a right to spend it anyway I want. This doesn’t mean I use men or take away their jobs and rights to be full-fledged men. A man’s masculinity is not reliant-on how women behave. It should be independent of women and their proclivities or nature, and in spite of their foolishness. The only true effective answer to women’s nature is male masculinity. Sexually successful men don’t feel or show too much emotion or anger towards women in general. They just do what they have to do.
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Another idiot talking. Next, we don´t have to care and judge women’s past, true alphas marry sluts…err mature liberated women
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A lucky hot woman who married a rich man literally never has to think about anything but herself, literally.
Fixed that for you.
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“(And, of course, in your ring, which will costs at least $6,000 if not $15,000 for the poor schmuck you’ll demand, being “edumacated” little bitch like you are.)”
Guys, you do *not* have to buy a ring if you get married. In fact it’s better not to. It’s a shit test for her. If she freaks out about it what does that tell you about her values?
I got my wife a simple $400 gold band on the internet. No diamond. I told her diamonds were a waste of money, and I prefer to spend money on saving and investment for our future. She loved it.
A buddy of mine’s wife made him return her diamond and get her a better one. She cheated on him, they divorced and he got raped in court.
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Interesting comment. But really and truly, I think a man has to be truly out of his mind to spend that kind of money on a handbag for a woman anyway. I am confident that I would never ever ever even consider spending such an obscene amount of money for a handbag. It is just so illogical. I don’t have so much money to spend but I always said that that even if I did I would never be able to throw money away by spending that much for an item of clothing or shoes, or God forbid, an accessory. And I would never dare to ask a man for it. I don’t know, maybe I’m lacking the gene that is supposed to make me attracted to designer clothes and shoes, but I don’t go spend much money for clothes, if something has some thread coming loose in a place I am not afraid to sew it and it looks as good as new. I don’t know if that makes me seem unkempt but I have never had any complaints about the way I dress and present myself, and I feel it doesn’t have to cost a lot of money to look put together.
I once had a disastrous haircut, it was absolutely terrible and I felt so upset but I didn’t have so much money to go to a good salon to fix it. A man who knew me could see I was really upset and told me he was going to book me an appointment with the most high class expensive salon to repair the damage. I felt so flattered but also wracked with guilt for accepting the gift. I did tell him that I didn’t feel comfortable but he told me it was a thank you for helping him with something in the past. So I accepted, I’m not sure if I should have or not but I am still so grateful to him, but still feel bad that he had to put his hand in his pocket for my image.
If I am with a man and he wants something for himself and he can afford it and worked hard for it, I will encourage him to go for it. Sometimes we all deserve to treat ourselves. I’d just be hoping that what he wanted made a little more sense that a $3000 handbag. I mean seriously, there’s people that don’t know where their next meal is coming from.
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Who’s genius idea was it to nearly double the supply of labor by encouraging women to enter the job market with no foreseeable increase in the demand for that labor (i.e. the amount of work that needed doing)?
Oh, wait, that’d be the feminists. Real “thought leaders,” they.
Of course, they were duped and encouraged by those interested in seeing the cost of labor drop. And one wonders where the strange alliances on the Left have their roots.
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“Who’s genius idea was it…”
2d wave feminist movement funded, courtesy of David Rockefeller. Primary among its several objectives was to double the income tax base for servicing the Fed’s usury and to transfer influence over children at earlier ages from parents to the public school system, with numerous intended consequences on family, faith, culture, and race.
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the banality of feminism
i just want to be haaaaaaappy
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All quite true. But when was the last time you (or Greg, or Cornelius) went to the range?
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This is no time to think about hitting golf balls.
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Yeahhhh….. that’s exactly the range I was referring to.
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ZFuck that turd-sandwich Francesca. Put it to her politely that your landlord is asking her to pay or vacate and you cannot help it. She will be a blimp-sized toxic influence on yo life Corn-holi-o!
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Seconded… why he spent more than a minute with this “friend” is beyond me.
You’re affected by the company you keep… and this sounds like compounded interest withdrawal from the karma bank.
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Yep. Friends implies a mutually beneficial relationship. This dude is getting no benefit, he is actually being harmed.. She dumped her hot friends so possibly getting laid isn’t even on the table.
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Agreed. What has happened to the West? Sure, but more than that, WTF is Cornelius thinking letting the blimp into his house? Hell, I could see her pulling any number of nasty tricks (sue for support, false rape claim, etc.) when she is asked to leave.
He should have never agreed to let her stay without meeting somewhere on neutral ground first, and then refusing as soon as he saw what and who she had become. Just, stupid.
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I guess the character in this vignette is a travesty. I’d like to announce that I’m so much better than her, but I’m not by much. Life wants you to be in the bulk of the bell curve. It wants to you be stuck in some mediocre desk job. It wants you to be fat and addicted to some form of entertainment.
I went to school for a degree I don’t exactly use. I am childless and unmarried and painfully and grudgingly attached to a guy who isn’t the best for me. I wish I could go back to school to study something impractical even though it would get me into more debt.
I feel frustrated. I didn’t go in debt to study art. I didn’t get fat. And in the end, I didn’t get much further than Francesca the fattie. It’s hard not to give up on yourself when you have to be so much stronger than average to rise above the lot the modern world will hand to you.
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Survival of the fittest.
Before feminism girls didn’t have to care much about it, thanks femicunts! ;D
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What’s with chicks always wanting to go back to school to study something? This isn’t to pick on you because every girl I know does this. Is self learning just something women are incapable of doing? Steps to studying shit without paying 100k in tuition. 1. Read a syllabus for what you’re interested in 2. Buy the books on the fucking syllabus. 3. Read them. Or go the alternative route if you live near a big state university. just show up to class. If it’s a bigger class, no one will ever notice you aren’t actually enrolled.
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I agree completely with you on the back to school thing. My woman always wants to ‘take a class’. Usually in something completely worthless for increasing her income. I don’t get it.
I wanted to learn how to weld, so I read a couple of welding books and bought a welder. Then I went to my buddy to was a welder to give me some pointers. Ta da! I can stick weld now. Economics, butchering, masonry; whatever. Just get the basics down the start trying. Get help when you get stuck. It’s doesn’t require a university.
I’ve also never understood the ‘take a class’ with an instructor who is probably mediocre at best versus reading the work of the best minds of the subject.
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Very true observation.
When I wanted to learn about guns after growing up in a gun-free home, I went online, talked to everyone I knew who knew something, then bought a few and started tinkering. Same with my car.
I know a stay-at-home-mom who had never cooked anything significant in her life despite being nearly 40. Eventually, several of my friends (all males who love good food) convinced her to make a few things for her family while we gave her pointers via webchat. Who’d have thunk homemade mac’n cheese and a crock-pot roast would have been beyond learning without help for a woman who stays at home while her 1 child goes to work?
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I love self-learning. But taking a class is probably more fun, more social. And you get a piece of paper that says you took that class.
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Also, nostalgia
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Excellent post
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What’s with chicks always wanting to go back to school to study something?
– because they cannot learn (or do anything, really) on their own. remember, these are women we’re talking about. we men do our own shit, make our own decisions, own our own shortcomings, accept our own responsibilities and deal with our own consequences. by insisting on ‘taking a class’, the onus of responsibility is shifted away. if the woman does poorly, it’s the instructor’s fault and not because she spent most of her time texting her bff or updating facebook.
– their brains function differently. men are better at analyzing things and figuring out how they work than women. women tend to need things explained to them in a way they can understand.
– they need the support of others. a man can make do things and make a decision on his own, women need to get a consensus first.
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see emma’s replies above…
‘fun’
‘social’
‘nostalgia’
not
‘i’ll learn better’.
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School won’t help you learn better. I mean, I think most women actually do know that.
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School won’t help you learn better.
sure it can, but it takes a teacher who knows his shit and can explain it well. i’ve had teachers like this back when i was in school. sadly, these days they’re a rarity.
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Having qualified instructors, equipment and facilities, challenging assignments, and the competition of peers WON’T help you learn better?
Most women know this?
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(((the comedy continues to write itself, here at the chateau)))
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Well, if you attend the mass production state universities where you’re one of 2,000 people sitting in a single Chem 101 class, you’re not learning much. The 22 year old ESL TA section leaders rarely improve the situation. These are the kinds of schools that average women gravitate towards (proof: ASU).
People place value in what they can closely relate to, and ladies at such schools can more deeply connect with frat boys, partying, and drinking (ugh, beer + women = not sexy) than some academic rattling off molar masses 60 rows ahead of her.
I went to a small private college and women there weren’t more innately interested in academics, they just were forced into academic engagement by the fact that there was a more personal relationship with the professors. That created the one thing most women dread: accountability.
Bullsh*t majors like Early Childhood Education and Psychology should be done away with and replaced with technical education programs.
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I only take a class if I want a credential for something. A bachelor’s degree you pretty much need. I got my master’s degree because I wanted a structured learning environment and a resume padder. I didn’t learn much in grad school, but the credential definitely helps me get interviews easily and negotiate for a higher salary. For my current job I asked for a starting salary 15K higher than what was being offered on paper and my justification was “I have x degree, so….” Plus, I see a lot of jobs I want that say they require a graduate level degree.
I want to go back to school to use the degree for a PhD in my mind. I want the dissertation process so I have professional feedback on my ideas.
I have no problem learning on my own and I will do it for things where I think it’s the best way. I like to sing, and I would never get a degree in vocal performance. I learn on my own.
I agree with emma. Classes are nice for the social aspect. That’s why I like dance classes even though I am sure I could learn without them.
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Dance is different than information learning or most other skills. I’m involved in Lindy Hop and learning from a youtube vid is worlds harder than learning from an instructor. The feedback process is so different essential, as is learning moves with many different partners.
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On the subject of grad school, allow me to suggest some reading:
http://100rsns.blogspot.com/
Getting a PhD is the definition of self-destructive.
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they go back because they’re not just looking for a new career, they’re looking for a new start on everything. if they’re not happy _everything_ is on the table and you (her provider male) won’t know until you notice a bunch of new likes on her fb posts from a few new dudes that she’s going to let in her pants.
since college is where the carousel really hits full swing, i guess they naturally go back to their instinctive mating grounds.
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exactly. after college their lives arent what they thought. they cant get the marble statue intellectual, they will now work til they die. they dont want a new start or a new career. they are grasping for the glory days and will pay any monetary price for it. hopefully though they will snag a dude there to pay it for them.
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Because it’s the label, not the knowledge they’re after. I am a happily married woman who does exactly what you prescribe (mostly because I want my husband to find me interesting to talk to), and while men wil humor me politely when I discuss history or economics with them, women won’t give me the time of day because “they know some other woman with a real graduate degree.”
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Why do they want to keep studying you ask? because they don’t want a full time job that’s what the guys are for, just keep stalling at college till a beta buxx steps up to take care of them. All the chicks I know thta have degrees are ready to retire at 30 and have kids and let the beta schlub work for the next 40 yrs while she watches Oprah and eats chocolate biscuits.
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Or just go to the library. SWPL status whoring no longer allows the pursuit and enjoyment of learning for its own sake, even if there is no shiny bauble at the end. One must have a six figure useless degree hanging on the wall.
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@everybodyhatesscott
“What’s with chicks always wanting to go back to school to study something?”
Because education as a necessity was sold most aggressively to women. Men know almost instinctively they have to get an education or a skill to survive. In contrast, women never had to because either their fathers or husbands took care of them up until a few decades ago. In order to change that instinct in women (the need to be taken care of and watched over), the liberals sold the idea of financial independence mostly to women, and that meant getting them to go to school and get too much degree in areas they traditionally were never interested in, like business, engineering, law, and medicine. Or, they convinced them they need to dedicate their lives to a study, like women and gender-studies – those degrees are even stupider then women getting engineering degrees.
The other day at dinner I saw this youngish girl wearing US Army uniform. We were in a trendy restaurant dinning outside. The girl and her family were probably “celebrating” her being deployed. Anyway, she was pretty, 5’4”. Not fat, but the uniform she wore made her look broad-shouldered and husky, and ruined her famine figure. Why would any woman do this to herself? Why would she ruin her beauty? Is she what a soldier in the 21st century looks like? A 5’4” woman? Liberal thinking is wretched.
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Social activity, regimentation, always having the reassuring feeling of alpha cock of the Cathedral. And an open ended projected feel good possibility of a future, because of the secret knowledge they learned with their Communication degree.
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yes girls are incapable of self learning. how old are you? you should know it by now
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1.) Women need to be lead (teacher.) They also need other people to see and verify their accomplishments for them to be of any value (classmates.) Credentialism, as a general principal, is inherently irresistible to women.
2.) I’m also increasingly convinced that women have very little interest in actually learning things, as least in the sense that men tend to understand the term. They want to take classes because they are attracted to the image and emotions associated with a subject, such as Art, not because they are genuinely curious about the material.
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Which is it, feministx: “so much” or “not by much”?
Aieee. Do you see why we want women to just STFU?
Education? Degrees? School debt? Perpetual campus life? What a carnival of insanity.
“What’s with chicks always wanting to go back to school to study something?” asks everybodyhatesscott. It is the modern substitute for the life of interesting leisure a refined woman used to pursue. If this life of idle diversion were treated as a superfluous nonce, it would be tolerable.
But women are lied to and told their purpose is to get hyper-“educated” and doors will open. The fact that the most important door slams shut in the meantime is the Truth Which Must Never Be Told. The entire feminist house of cards depends on sustaining the lie. Which is why they are so militantly, hysterically opposed to seeing it exposed. It would force them to see their lives, their ideology, and their identity as the nullity it truly is, and that is one abyss they dare not gaze into.
Feministx is not too old to face this and reverse this, but in a year she will be. Turning the aircraft carrier around takes time and dedication and purpose. But steering away from the storm has to begin now.
Or, someone can just make an “oops” baby in her and force the issue. (As many cowardly women unconsciously plot.) If it were possible for the kid to get my bluest eyes, I’d do it myself. Syringe packed in dry ice, of course. FedEx bred.
Matt
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What a carnival of insanity.
carousel’s the main attraction.
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Lied to me about what? I enjoyed getting my degree somehow even though I didn’t learn that much that was actually relevant to the real world. I enjoyed the friends I made there and the general campus environment.
I want more self actualization, not less based on my experience in life.
Why do you think me having someone’s kid is going to solve everything for me? I really don’t understand this. I mean, if it would really make me feel fulfilled and I understood that, then I would do it.
BTW, I haven’t ever met a guy interested in me who met the following specifications:
1. A guy who you could marry (meaning not crazy, not an alcoholic etc)
2. A guy who would marry you
3. A guy who was willing and able to support a family on his own dime
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Feministx,
I have the impression you have a mindset common among people that feel “unfullfilled.” You seem to always be thinking, “What’s in it for me?”
“Someone’s kid”, for example, is your child. That is a wonderful thing. And, no, the “kid” won’t solve everything. Perhaps it won’t solve anything. It can fill your life with love. If you give a child love, it will return it 100 fold. It is possible to live without love, but, why die without that experience, and leave nothing behind except dust and disappointments?
Like Churchill said, “You make a living by what you get. You make a life by what you give.”
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The very use of the term “self actualization” reveals the bluff. The only question is, are you in on your own bluff or wholly unconscious to it?
Your “enjoy[ment]” is of zero relevance to the world. Less than zero.
You have never made yourself interesting to 1, 2, or 3. You are too busy yapping about self-actualizing yourself’s self and droning on about your alleged intellectual capacities rather than bending over and making yourself procreatively useful. Which is why you fantasize receiving it by force.
I thought we were getting somewhere back in the “Confident A-Hole” thread. How ditzy, how flaky, how capricious. Ever the airy fairy. Which can be cute if only you could unburden your vessel of the feminist jetsam.
You are not self-actualizing. You are sylph-actualizing.
Matt
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as a woman, your value to men is in your reproductive ability. but at 30, you’re post-wall and your looks (which reflect fertility) are rapidly declining. you don’t have children and seemingly don’t want them. thus your value to men as a woman is essentially nil. so why would these bullet-pointed guys be interested in you? what are you bringing to the table?
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Uhh. What was I s’posed to be bringing? I’ll be nice to you. I’ll do what you want.
Am I supposed to doing something more here?
[CH: Turn around, don’t look at me, hands against the wall, bend at the waist, hike your skirt, drop your panties, spread your legs. Now.]
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I’m like smiling and blushing so much at work. The kid next to me just made this ‘what the hell is up with you’ face.
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Life doesn’t want that, your solipsism and laziness wants that.
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May I suggest the Teaching Company or reading serious books to get that extra curricular knowledge?
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how strong did you have to be to get a dude that has money
get the fuck out of here
you know what I had to do for my money
so shut the fuck up
he he he
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“I went to school for a degree I don’t exactly use. I am childless and unmarried and painfully and grudgingly attached to a guy who isn’t the best for me. I wish I could go back to school to study something impractical even though it would get me into more debt.”
Your best bet to getting out of your predicament is to dump your BF. He’s the source of your frustration and lack of fulfillment. He might be interesting and good to you, but if he isn’t giving you the emotional and mental support you need, by way of gina tingles, it’s time to stop throwing good money after bad. Let’s be honest here: Sex is what it’s about. Nothing less. If you’re not getting it from someone you lust after, what good is it? It’s like eating from a garbage dumpster because you can’t afford to buy food. You either trust you can meet someone new, or stay in the dumps with your no-sex man. I have an idea. Instead of wasting money on new courses and/or a new degree, spend money to get back into shape and meet someone new. Get a personal trainer if you’re not disciplined enough to do it alone.
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Feminism is child abuse. And modern “women” are children in perpetuity.
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Bumper sticker’d.
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@CH noticed your tweet on the least racially intolerant. from personal experience, they are also self-racists i.e. worship whiteys and hate blackeys hmmm i think the most racially intolerant should be china because they think of themselves as white, while thinking of white people as stupid and black people as monkeys and of everything in between as a chimpanzee. ;D
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Great post. On an unrelated note, woke up to this text from my buddy that lives in San Diego. “Def just used that pregnant thing on that chick since I can’t catch up with her this weekend. She was dumbfounded. Invited me over on the spot but I’ve got a final tomorrow morning”
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Francesca bears so many of the marks of degenerate contemporary young women of the last 20 years or so:
– goes to college to seek a professional degree [check]
– intelligent, but completely lacking in wisdom and perspective [check]
– gives up on the professional [masculine] career that she trained for at enormous expense after just a few years [check]
– goes to art school to find herself and do something [something more feminine] that she really likes [check]
– can’t get a job in her exciting new [feminine and completely useless] art field [check]
– expects the world [or just friends and family] to owe her a living [check]
– becomes more bitter [and heavier] as she ages [check]
– fails to date with purpose or at all [check]
– not interested in finding a husband [until it’s too late] [check]
– not interested in having kids [until it’s too late] [check]
– has a short-term, unrealistic attitude to money [check]
– believes everything will work out fine in the end [regardless of evidence to the contrary] [check]
– uses people to satisfy her selfish desires [check]
– cattiness with other women [check]
– follows her impulses and ignores long-range planning [check]
Need I go on?
Encouraging people to live insular individualistic lives without regard for the health of society as a whole leads eventually to social catastrophe and collapse. This is why the West is screwed.
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i think the problem lies with a society willing to cover for all these bullshit decisions, i don’t think that’s individualism. it’s collectivism.
living as a responsible individual without a claim on everyone around her, she’d be 100% toast living as she is. and eventually people like her would stop making decisions like that.
when the incentives change, behaviors change. and there’s not much incentive to excel anymore, everyone’s forced to support you regardless.
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also meant to say i absolutely agree with the rest of your post, only differed on characterization of her lifestyle as individualism. she’s a blind leech.
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I don’t agree, lllb. A lot of the women who live like Francesca are from middle and upper class families. They are subsidized by their families and friends, not the state.
There are also many well off women who do stay in their professions and never become wives and mothers. This leaves just stupid people having kids – which is a disaster for the future. Hyper-individualism is a bitch.
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No collectivism, organic collectivism is blood & soil, family friends clan tribe nation history posterity etc etc. Individualism is moronic on about any plane that you can think of. Its a giant sham. We are animals, not gods, and animals are collectives, the individual is a singular manifestation of and within the collective. Individualism equals me = my enjoyment preferably without the responsibility and the pain and suffering.
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“- follows her impulses and ignores long-range planning [check]”
My sincerest apologies for hijacking, Jack.
Question for you guys though:
Have been living together with my girlfriend of 3 years (only 1 year living together). I’m 29 and she’s 21. We’re renting at the moment, but I have made it clear that all expenses will be split down the middle due to possibility of 50/50 during a common law ruling.
Such as any down payment or mortgage payments. I’ve got the cash to be looking for a house now, but she’s got nothin. Her love is strong and I believe she is capable, but the quote from above is just far too true.
Any creative ideas on how to initiate her into saving money without talking finances all the time?
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no chance. kid you know nothing. just enjoy fucking her while you can. you cannot change a woman’s nature.
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Truth, but always willing to learn where and when I can
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hey I was the anon there too lazy to sign in. not trying to be harsh, it’s just that I’ve been there. I had a hot piece of ass 21 year old GF when I was 25. she was a true 9….really perfect down to the amazing white teeth, smooth skin, perfect body…she was hot. same deal as you though. nearly all 21 year old American girls now are bat shit crazy (the hot ones are) and have the mentality of a 12 year old. see my long post to petite olive about $3,000 handbags. all women waste money. they literally float through life literally thinking of themselves as butterflies or Disney fairies (take your pick). They *literally* see themselves as such in their fragile minds. Do you have a sister? Ever notice how when you would go for bike rides, she would randomly go out into traffic and just expect magic fairies to keep her safe? Or if she was a bit sporty, when you taught her how to throw a ball, she’d just randomly throw it in your general direction while looking somewhere else and the ball would perhaps be about 45 degrees off in the wrong direction? 21 year old HOT women (Nicole is right to correct me—all of the bitching done here about women is about 7s and above…it would suck to be a fat ugly woman) are very confused, also, about their sexuality vs. what society tells them…they want to be tied up and dominated, for example, but they are confused by these natural thoughts because of society.
Same with your question about money. Women don’t have any inkling to save money because they know inherently that a man will always take care of their needs literally down to the most basic (housing and food). 21 year old HOT women are just fucked up and you cannot save them. Enjoy her while you can. She will eventually reveal herself to you to be totally psycho.
American women are not ready to “settle down” until age 34, which is bullshit, but that’s how it is.
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No worries man, didn’t take it as harsh at all, just very blunt to the point and truthful.
I appreciate your comments No, no sister, but I know what you mean about only caring about them and only caring about the immediate point in time. Fuck, it’s even hard to get them to plan something for the weekend let alone saving up for a house.
I absolutely hate that the men are assumed to always take care of their needs – they claim “independence” and all this bullshit, then feel entitled to everything all the time.
And duly noted. She’s pretty good at keeping her shit together, but all women are the same and that’s the way it is. Like you said, cannot change a woman’s nature.
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Forgot to add that yeah I saw your petite olive post – good shit good shit
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Sell her on the Dave Ramsey baby steps, maybe get her to listen to the show. Ramsey never will say end the fiat money or end the banking system, just that banks are ‘evil’ like their evil presence is normal or something. He will help people sidestep direct debt slavery. Define an alpha mission of financial maturity bolstered by the ‘authority’ of Dave Ramsey, and get a pre-nup, and a pre-living-together would have been ideal. Women approximate being civilized by following a civilized man’s mission.
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His steps are great, just takes a lot of patience and persistence.
“Women approximate being civilized by following a civilized man’s mission” – I wonder what a world full of only women would be like with no leadership from men – wonder how long it would take for them all to kill each other
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there’s so much about your stance that sounds promising, i can only say i’m ten years older and twenty years behind where you’re at so i’ll spare you my ignorance. i simply don’t know how you can protect yourself, or really even safely take the role of a male in this legal environment. other than that, it seems like you might be on the right track and i really wish you the best of luck brother.
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Thanks lllb. Not sure if we’ll ever be free…”liberty is always freedom from the government” – ludwig von mises
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No apology necessary Euro.
The longer your relationship with your GF goes on like this, the more painful it will be [financially] if she decides to split.
I would suggest that you make an Alpha move and lay down the law. Tell her she needs to start saving x% of her income each month and that you are going to hire a lawyer to get a cohabitation agreement drawn up [DON’T give her an opportunity to help choose the lawyer – you’re in charge; make sure the lawyer has experience drawing up cohabitation agreements].
If she doesn’t want to play ball, use Alpha attitude to make her believe that it won’t matter much to you if you break up with her.
Cheers.
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Thanks for the input Jack, appreciated.
I’ve been holding off on making her save, but now is the time to start. Whether for a house or not.
And the feel of the relationship is just that – won’t matter if a break up happens. The next one will always be hotter younger tighter. Although my last LTR was complete 180 of alpha and I’m still kickin myself for letting it happen the way it did (betamax), which incidentally brought me to this site in the first place.
So, CH much thanks as well.
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If you have to ask, then you fucking know damn well the answer. Don’t use other people to tell you what you already know if true in an attempt to not take responsibility for your shit. Beta coward.
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Just wanted some firsthand experience with the issue as I am only old enough to see my friends getting married (which is a definite no go for me), but not old enough to see them raped through divorce court.
This blog is great for reading other peoples’ experiences to try to learn from them and not make the same mistakes.
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she isnt going to. if you have it saved and she starts now, how long wil it be before she has enough for you to go 50/50. plus, if she decides to jump ship (a completely logical thing to take into account seeing as it is common and everyone thinks it wont) you STILL lose your 50%.
only one way to go. prenup, get it legit and BUY THAT SHIT YOURSELF. if you are gonna shack up, get your ass covered on paper JUST IN CASE. you never know what tomorrow brings.
that way if you wind up having kids, all that, you still gotta support the kids (meh) but you dont lose YOUR house.
she seems level headed if shes down with a 50/50, or at least like she needs to pretend that for the time being, so play on that.
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The gf despises kids which is awesome. Fucking little brats. They’re barely okay when they’re not your own.
Seems like that would be the way to do it is cover ass and buy myself.
She does have a decent head on her shoulders, Polish background, solid family upbringing, parents still together, tight-knit family values, but guess that can all change overnight
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Not liking kids is a red flag. She’s cold and selfish.
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She’s okay around them, but the thought of her having her own despises her. I have a feeling that it may be to do with her age and she will change her view in the future, but I’d like to hold of talk of any sort about kids as long as I can. Plus I read somewhere that each kid (barring no child support and they’re actually raised by you until 18) costs 250K! Or approximately an extra 10 bucks an hour pre-tax you need to work per kid. How brutal is that
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Women who don’t want kids are either lying or deeply defective. Reproduction is what they’re designed for. Ones over 30 or so w/o kids have some dog or cat that they use as a perverse, revolting child substitute. No amount of feminist indoctrination or promises of endless consumer baubles can change their nature. It only makes them unpleasant, confused, and miserable.
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This is truly sad. I hope he kicks her out. She’ll probably find excuses NOT to pay rent, and manage to clean out his refrigerator too.
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In a similar case, a man met a girl in a bar who told him she needed a place to stay. So he let her move in with him. Whatever he was expecting in exchange she didn’t give him. So he told her to leave. She wouldn’t go. He asked his landlord to kick her out. The landlord was getting his rent, so he didn’t want to bother with it. He went to the police, who told him it was a civil matter. He called a lawyer (me) who told him to just gather up her shit, put it out on the curb, and change the locks. He wouldn’t do that because he’d become afraid of her. That left suing her for trespass, but since he was afraid of what she might do to him and she was still living with him, that was more dangerous than locking her out. She might murder him in his sleep. I guess he could call Adult Protective Services and see if they’d be his bodyguard from now on, but that didn’t seem likely. I suppose he eventually went into hiding. Talk about beta.
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Can’t he just find a new rental property and move to it leaving it to the landlord to settle. Yes i know its a beta response but why not just move on. Its not its his property.
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“He called a lawyer (me) who told him to just gather up her shit, put it out on the curb, and change the locks. He wouldn’t do that because he’d become afraid of her.”
Oh, for Christ’s sake . . .
Calling CH: we need another “America, Then and Now” post.
THEN: Ben Franklin: “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
NOW: DCM’s spineless client.
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True, though to be fair, back in Franklin’s time you didn’t have the feminist police state/fem-centric social shaming edifice to contend with.
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hahahaha i had a buddy with a kid. he couldnt stand the mother. they fought like crazy. he would kick her out, she would leave with the kid and go stay with mom/dad/cunt friend and a month later, either he would miss his kid or she would “not have anywhere to go” and he couldnt leave his kid on the street.
so one day they were on the verge of her moving out again, and he was all like “but i want my daughter around”. i told him to cool things down, then go out, wait for her to bitch about not ever being able to see her friends and being stuck at home with the kid then calmly say “you are right im sorry”. THEN a couple days later tell her “go see your friends/family. ill take care of the kid for the weekend. its cool sweetheart, you need a break and i would love to spend some time with my kid”. THEN get every single item of her shit out while she is gone, go file custody (that way she the law cant say shit til a case goes to court), and DO NOT let her in no matter what.
motherfucker didnt listen. now hes paying out the ass child support so this bitch can go out on his dime with her cunt friends (i fucked 2 of them and her, they are all whore cunts), never sees his kid and this bitch STILL comes around trying to start shit with him.
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“To my shock it turns out that she took out $175,000 in student loans for her Art degree in drawing cartoons… at a 15% interest rate… ”
This part of the story makes no sense. If she already had an undergraduate degree then, at most, a second bachelor’s degree would take another 2 years of full-time work and would not cost nearly that much money.
A year at Yale is only about $56,000. So two years at Yale would be about $120k. And she probably didn’t go to Yale, which has one of the top fine arts programs in the US.
His friend took out these loans–which could not have been mainly student loans–from somewhere other than through her school.
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Incorrect. The art institute is close to 35k per year. A 4 year program with fees, books, living expenses and bam 175k
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Someone with a bachelor’s degree already would not need to attend school for another 4 years to get a second bachelor’s degree. It normally takes only about 2 years to get a second degree because the general education requirements which take up the first 2 years of a normal 4-year degree have already been taken.
So, the art institute for 2 years would cost 70K at most. Where did the other 100k come from? And furthermore, federal loans for students do not have an interest rate as high as 15 percent.
This woman took out a lot of money in loans to something other than attend school. Her story doesn’t add up.
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Yeah, I was thinking that, too. Probably some sort of personal loans for living expenses. Even if the figures are exaggerated, though, the point of the story still stands.
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Yeah I was scratching my head on this one too. So I did some Googling about art schools and tuition. Turns out actually it could add up, here is an example of a four year art school with the kind of tuition Greatest Beta was talking about:
$34,840 for in-state students, which is $22,816 more expensive than the average for all Colleges and Universities. Out-of-state tuition is $34,840, which is $21,357 more expensive than the average for all Colleges and Universities.
See tuition for the last several years below:
In-State Tuition Out-of-State Tuition
2011-2012 $34,840 $34,840
2010-2011 $32,290 $32,290
2009-2010 $28,880 $28,880
2008-2009 $27,050 $27,050
http://colleges.findthebest.com/q/925/20/How-much-is-tuition-at-Ringling-College-of-Art-and-Design-in-Sarasota-Florida
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kick her out before you end up becoming her de facto beta provider.
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Yeah, is this what it looks like to be a dickstand to a woman who isn’t even a single mom?
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lol dickstand
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Yep. Quite apart from anything else, Cornelius, you’re knocking at least two points off your SMV by being seen in public with a land whale.
And imagine bringing a chick back to your place one night, to find Miss Blubber Pageant 2013 sprawled on the sofa and the whole place stinking of burrito farts. It would not be a mood-enhancer.
She’s gotta go.
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Cornelius, you need to get her out of your place sooner rather than later. You also need to start recording all of your conversations and interactions with her. Do it before you find yourself on the receiving end of a false accusation of domestic violence/sexual assault and end up the one evicted.
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You’re a better writer when you’re not ripping off Hunter S Thompson.
[CH: Any “ripping off”, if we are to assume the veracity of your accusation, is purely coincidental.]
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Remember guys.
“All men are dogs,
All dogs go to heaven.”
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Wow – what a crazy story. Hopefully Cornelius can extricate himself from the situation without much drama. Honestly, I’ll wager that – had he been in HER position – she would not have been anywhere near the decent human being that he’s being.
I found the following article through this site. I now wish that Christopher Walken’s “Zorin” character from “A View to a Kill” would come back and be successful this time. The old Hewlett/Packard engineer types are gone, having been replaced by dickheads in the Zuckerberg and Pincus mold.
http://www.newgeography.com/content/003702-america-s-new-oligarchs-fwdus-and-silicon-valley-s-shady-1-percenters
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Our friend Cornelius should quickly kick his whale friend to the curb, because she has a toxic influence on her surroundings, but also because she is a legal hazard (doesn’t he realize that she could claim that she was his girlfriend the whole time, and their “relationship” was a common-law marriage, which entitles her to half his stuff + alimony ??)
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i was hearing alarm bells as i read this too, she needs to go. but i may be projecting my inner beta on you, you might be fine telling her to get out even through her tears and screaming.
last girlfriend i had (or will have) was ‘age-appropriate’ and i almost moved in with her and her two children. dumb i know, but she is truly hot, and fun, and i told myself it all made sense.
until one day, as i am working my ass off, then paying for dinner, then getting cash together for her return to school, and helping her find a rental house (i did not move in) her daughter expressed some fear about their living situation and money in general, and my girlfriend says:
“DON’T WORRY HONEY. OBAMA WILL TAKE CARE OF US.”
that wasn’t the exact reason we broke up, but it’s the reason i’d never for any reason go back. she couldn’t appreciate the flow of cash and the expenditure of my finite life on her and her two mistakes (yeah kids are innocent but they are her mistake not mine since she ruined her marriage).
she’s reasonably intelligent, so the number of women out there thinking like that, that the state is their husband/father/provider/whatever, is i guarantee completely staggering. there is no way to overcome it without collapse, in my opinion.
fucking losers won’t even learn then, people move from california and bring their shitty blue state votes over to arizona all the time.
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You sure she wasn’t joking around on the Obama line? I do it all the time.
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i only wish, she was surprised i took offense at all. but she wasn’t joking. she didn’t see the irony of sitting in my car with her kids after a dinner i bought, scrambling for a place to live, with my help. i said ‘where is he right now, why would you say that?’
in any case no, she’s a multi-O-bumper-sticker type. all-organic grass-fed steaks on food stamps.
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I tell Californians straight up to go back where they came from.
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“that the state is their husband/father/provider/whatever”
and feminism tells these women that they are “independent”
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Yes, the whole “independent woman” meme and the solipsistic lack of thinking required to mouth it unironically is another good point of evidence that taking women seriously as rational, responsible adults is an absurd notion.
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yeah dude. i dont generally date single moms. but i would as long as they NEVER FUCKING ASK ME to take their brat to school under any circumstances. and i will never consider taking them seriously as a relationship.
i dated one a long time ago. held her own shit down, i mean down, no child support although the dad took em all the time and paid money when he could. never not once even asked me to do shit. it was like she had no kids when i was around. i mean, of all the broads ive met this was the ONLY ONE who took care of her shit, didnt bitch about it ever, really like a dude about her responsibilities but femenine as hell. pretty too.
they do exist. but of the thousands of women ive met thats the only one.
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This is one of the saddest things I’ve ever read. I don’t hate this woman Francesca, I feel bad for her. She’s simply a normal woman who was caught up and destroyed by a sick and heartless feminist/corporate/media culture. She should neither have been an engineer any more than a cartoonist. She should’ve been a mom and wife to a normal working guy who is paid more than the peanuts he gets.
There’s no hope. There’s no reconciliation or overcoming obstacles to succeed in the end. The future belongs to the simple brown people who are capable of doing real work on the cheap and having lots of babies; and their elite overlords.
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why not a cartoonist,in the Japan cartoon industry, some women do exquisite drawings (like Arina Tanemura or Matsuri Hino, though most their plots are nothing outstanding, their artwork is the best of the best) and in the other side, some few women have made good manga plots (focusing this time in the plot and not the artwork) like the authors of Fullmetal,Magi or Skip Beat
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i don’t think anyone thinks she’s incapable of doing anything because she’s a woman, just incapable of facing reality. she _had_ a job. she could have saved up for her dream. she could have gotten trained for less money than she did. she could have self-taught. she could have investigated prospects prior to taking the loans.
she could have done any number of responsible things to put herself in an infinitely better position that didn’t require other people’s generosity or extracted wealth to do it.
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oh i see, he-she was talking about Francesca’s situation in particular and not about women in general, i misunderstand, that would be a waste of talent
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What is it with women (and people in general, but mostly women) going to college for degrees in creative fields? Sure, if you’re doing something that requires technical expertise, like CG work or licensing, like architecture, I can see why you’d need a degree. But going to school to be an “artist”, or my second favorite, a “writer”?
If you don’t have those skills innately, and the drive to practice/develop them on your own, no amount of schooling is going to help. But it gives you the illusion. It’s why English majors are usually the shittiest novelists. Francesca was likely more focused on the idealized, romantic notion of being an artist, rather than the reality of it. If she was truly dedicated to “art”, and had a rational brain, she would have kept her boring but lucrative job, and worked on her own projects on the side.
She paid $175K to indulge a fantasy rather than deal with reality. And that is what’s wrong with America.
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This.
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I watched four chick flicks and all of the chicks in them were working as writers
maybe that’s why
apparently every chick can grow up to be a writer or actress
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It’s, like, every girl’s dream or something. I don’t understand it. Fortunately for humanity, most such ambitions never make it off the Internet. Otherwise, we’d have a lot more shit like 50 Shades in public circulation.
And I think the “character as a writer” thing is something that real screenwriters and authors fall back on, because they have no idea what normal jobs are.
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you might be right
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I’m inclined to agree; drive and determination is important to long term success. I went to art school long ago when education was somewhat less expensive. I started with a foundation in painting and drawing and added photography and graphic design. Today I work for a fortune 500 company in the printing & publishing field after also updating my computer skills. In my job I work with a large team of people on a major retail account. But that’s what I had in mind from the start. I knew that I would have to work in what was then called ‘commercial art’ because that’s where the money is. It is a competitive field and you need to have a realistic view of how it works.
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Exactly.
The whole SWPL/Hipster fake-bohemian plague is based on this.
People like the idea of being a struggling artist. They want to be the type of person who is an artist without actually being one.
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So it goes with Bernakification.
Question: Which was more inflated, her body or her debt?
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the one area where da GBFM is wrong is the term “bernakification”. bernanke didn’t start it. it shoudl be call greenspanification.
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Attention Sweetheart Jason! We’ve found your soulmate!
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Or his sister.
loozozlzlzllzloooolzlzllzooolll
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Shhhh don’t fuck with the guy, he’s an alpha who loves to fight!
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He can beat most men with his breath.
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^ hahahaha such a profound question that strikes at the heart of all that is going on in the West today. Paragraphs, and lengthy posts not required.
9 and a question mark is all it takes.
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Sounds like the only thing that makes them happy is being barefoot and pregnant over a stove.
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I’ve never understood the “barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen” line that feminists use! Does ANYONE wear shoes in their kitchen? I don’t think so.
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If you cook with oil, you wear the shoes.
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typical white miami cuban http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/16/3400890/former-hialeah-mayor-julio-robaina.html
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CH wrote: “and the distractions of a sick and twisted entertainment culture intent on assuring her complicity in the humiliation of her heritage and of her men.”
I don’t quite follow this. How is the entertainment industry trying to humiliate her heritage and men and how is it trying to make her complicit in that? Can you please be more specific? I am not a big television viewer. Are there particular programs that do this? How?
[CH: Feigned naivete troll.]
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Where did you learn your trade, you cunt? You fucking child.
You fairy.
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[CH: Feigned naivete troll.]
Just trying to learn, bro. Things that seem obvious to you, are not always so for other people.
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(Aside) I’m gonna be with you in a moment.
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Who ever told you that you could work with men?
You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is.
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You fucking child.
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I see all the other vids of that Pacino rant have been taken down by Lionsgate. What a fucking country.
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Name anything beyond Duck Dynasty that doesn’t. Even that, the majority of women tell themselves they are just watching stupid hicks, while deep inside they see the stability of a traditional style family and wish they had it. The rest? Incredible “tough” girlz that can beat down the majority of men, move objects to heavy for men to move and men that are idiots who never plan ahead, save or spend money carefully.
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You company man!
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If I was half the man I used to be, I’d take a flame thrower to this place!!!
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Good father? FUCK YOU, go home and play with your kids.
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I was on facebook recently and saw a girl post, “I HATE MY MOM SHE WONT PAY FOR ME TO GET MY FUCKING ART DEGREE.” So I comment back, “Maybe she wants you to have a useful degree.”
Blocked.
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The truth to women often gets you blocked.
However I spoke truth to two men….both said I was right.
Women need to feel the truth.
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Haven’t you learned anything?
You have to get the hamster spinning at full-speed before you stop the wheel for maximum effect…
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Beta Cornelius is part of the problem. This behavior should get her living on the street, not a warm hand from a friend.
If she has a roof over head courtesy of a beta provider why should she change her actions? There’s not REAL threat to women anymore, thanks to guys like Cornelius and the government.
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Have so many family members young and old who think just like Cornelius, you can’t shelter someone while pushing them to become more independent.
She still hasn’t gotten a job and its been a year since she graduated ?
She’s never getting a job and (probably like many) he’s made it easier for her not to by letting her move in.
He’s stunned about her lackadaisical attitude when he’s part of the reason for her attitude.
That email shouldve been a Beta of the Month post.
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Well, it could be worse… Francesca could be here at the chateau, writing screed after inane screed, like some of the other distaff chaff already lolling about… flapping their yaps… and not cleaning.
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How do you know she isn’t here?
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here’s to hoping, eh, matt? if she is here, you’ve got to bust some smooth moves so you can add her to your eharem.
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Troll baby troll… lololoooo…
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In Mother Russia, Viagra Bob’s a crooning heartthrob.
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lol’ed
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The Ya Yea Yeahs are together again for a comeback tour!
When you stop fantasizing about another man’s “eharem” maybe you’ll realize how effortless this all can be once you get your shit together. One doesn’t have to make grand designs to attract female groupies everywhere one goes through “temperature raising” and “qualifying” and “AMOG” and “FBOG” and “CDOG.” Sometimes it simply happens from being oneself.
I now know why you try-hard, rising-omega perma-strivers recoil so viscerally from the advice, “Just be yourself.” It’s because “yourself” needs so much work that you cannot imagine other men achieving certain accomplishments incidentally. It requires you to dedicate most of your waking hours studying and kibitzing with each other in order to gain a fraction of action. Just getting to normal requires poring over a 5,000 word exegesis deconstructing the proper way to say “hi.”
Pull the wagon uphill, chumps. Don’t push it.
Matt
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you are a dork
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you are a dork
(((shakes head)))
Some sort of attempted burn, you South Park dweeb?
You fucking child.
You fairy.
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lol i laugh when you post, greg. it is impossible for me to imagine my dad being on here and writing things like you write. but, seriously, nice, germane cultural reference, bro!
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lol i laugh when you post, greg. it is impossible for me to imagine my dad being on here and writing things like you write.
Most dads don’t have as ready a wit… although with a son like you, I would have thought his risibility to be in top form.
((( burn-wise, that’s how it’s done, kid. 😉 )))
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I always jokingly said my business plan is to market my art/clothing to women ages 25 on up and/or the brainwashed masses. I’m beginning to realize I am correct on both counts. Women are the ones who buy shit and/or have betas buy them shit. What better way to achieve fame and recognition than having my work plastered all over their shirts, shoes and reusable SWPL totes.
And to jump ahead of any retorts, no – fuck artistic integrity. I’m changing the world through my art by my art making me money and getting me laid.
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Heh, I was going to ask if your goal is to make money or make art.
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said every rich artist throughout history.
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Help your friend using the Castro brothers’ proven methods: lock her in the room and don’t feed her for a couple of years. Then you assist her to pay back her loans by filming her and your dog. It’s the artistic career she’s always wanted
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You might ask your dearest Francesca, at a moment of calm and reflection, if she thinks things will work out in the end. When she replies in the affirmative, you are morally obligated to ask, “Based on what? What evidence do you have for that?”
Nicholson famously asked, “What if this is as good as it gets?” Jim Goad writes over at Taki’s Mag that it’s crimethink to bring up such heresy on TV these days, http://takimag.com/article/seven_ideas_you_can_never_discuss_on_television1
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So thats what we’ve been doing wrong this whole time. Not reasoning with women. huh.
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It was dealing with a male version of Francesca that got me to recognize my Betaness. It was my first step towards the red pill, kicking the OccupyMyHouse person out!
I see this type of behavior quite a bit now that I can recognize it. I see it with kids going off to college, or studying online then coming back to their parents home to live and “work” off the debt playing WoW. I don’t understand it, but I see it as the default behavior. Boomerang kids I think its called……
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Sure, anyone can be the next Paul Frank or Keith Haring….smh.
Honestly, you’d have a better chance of becoming the next Paul Tudor Jones or Richard Perry.
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Feminism is about giving women the rights of adults and the responsibilities of children.
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Thanks to Cornelius for illustrating why men can never, never, never be “just friends” with women. A male friend does something this stupid? You set him straight. You may even bust his balls to get the point across because you give a shit. You say he can stay a month tops. Period.
A woman? You take it easy on her. Don’t tell her that she is being foolish. Allow her to stay indefinitely. Listen to her bitter whining without telling her to grow up. If your not married or at least getting some decent sex (with regular bjs) you just don’t bother. Period. I wouldn’t stay with my wife if I was hearing that BS or she got that much fatter, let alone putting up with a “platonic” friend. I can honestly say I have no female friends that aren’t married. That includes my wife’s unmarried twin.
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The main thing I got from this story is that the guy who wrote in is probably unaware that men’s SMV is somewhat context-dependent. Meaning that if you hang around unattractive or overweight women, other women will see you as less desirable.
The converse is true as well. In high school when I was a senior I was missing a health class credit so they stuck me in a class that for some reason had all freshman girls. Nice looking ones, too. I took a different one to a different party each week and my popularity skyrocketed.
But back to my main point, he may want to go out in public with her less.
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Wow…. I could go off on a tangent on just about every paragraph in this story.
The thing about the dog is spot on, however most people don’t see this. When I was a boy (in the not so distant past) I don’t ever remember people fawning all over their pets like they do now. Most people left their dog outside or in the garage, and if they did stay inside, they slept in a pen or in the laundry room.
I think a lot of this kind of stuff is being perpetuated by Facebook. I see all these useless status updates that are probably giving these chicks bad ideas. Trying to lose weight, but posting all this food porn. Griping about college loans but yet posting about taking the GMAT. They see their friend posting pictures about a trip to an exotic location, so they have to follow suit (on credit).
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I think a lot of people are just fucking lonely. No family ties, no friends, no lovers. So they get a pet instead.
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sad but true
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The federal government needs to stop backing student loans. Student loan debt must be discharable in bankruptcy. That way the lenders will stop giving out money for people who want to major in Cartooning Science.
She will default on this loan regardless. The rest of us will end up paying for it either as taxpayers or as consumer borrowers. Why not just nip the whole cycle in the bud?
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It’s because women love to have a bunch of knowledge they will never use, they act like knowing something is the best thing ever. Most men just want to know enough to be good at whatever makes them money.
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um….no. they get no knowledge. they simply like form over substance, in every area of life.
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Agreed
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Francesca deserves to be openly mocked for her stupidity in taking out those student loans.
But you know what? I feel just as much animosity towards the banks. We’re left with one of two possibilities when it comes to the banks.
A) They only give out those loans because they know the American taxpayer will pick up the tab when the loans fail. In which case they are running a criminal racket and deserve jail time.
B) They give out those loans because they really are that incompetent, in which case they deserve to go bankrupt, and their employees deserve no better then Francesca. Which is to say they deserve to sleep in the same street gutter with her.
Fuck ’em all.
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And it’s never going to change as long as liberals are in power in Washington, because to cut it back would be to admit that more education is not the magic pill solution to everything. Talk to them about any complex problem and point out the flaws in cathedral dogma, and every time they get backed into a corner about why their programs don’t work, they will always seem to resort to saying “the key is more education.” Every complex social problem. The solution to pocerty is more education. Racism, more education. Violence, more education. Out of wedlock pregnency, more education. So it’s more and more student debt for all who don’t see through their charade, that education is not an amoral substitute for personal virtues.
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Georgia Boy, There’s truth to this, but it’s a bit like weeding your garden by picking-off the dandelion flower rather than pulling it out by the root.
It’s not going to change until someone in Washington is willing to end the gravy train for the lenders and allow these loans to be discharged in bankruptcy. Bush came close with income-based repayment, but that’s as good as it will get.
But then, he also promoted the idea of creating an “ownership society” where anyone who could fog a mirror got a house.
At it’s root, it’s not really a libeal-conservative issue, it’s a classic example of –and I hate this term– “crony capitalism:
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How’s it a criminal racket to run a game that the American taxpayer, aka the American voter, has enthusiastically set up and endorsed? When the American taxpayer promises the banks, “I will give you money no matter what kind of idiot you loan to,” don’t be surprised when banks loan to idiots.
Same as when the American man says to the American woman, “I will give you resources even if you deny me sex,” then is shocked when the woman denies him sex and takes his resources.
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“Francesca” sounds like a hot, ugly mess, but I don’t think her type of “i wanna do what makes me haaaaappy” brand of bullshit is solely relegated to the female sex. We don’t have the monopoly on narcissism and infantile-ism, although I would much prefer it if we did. Would make things 50% easier.
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I would like to point out that Spengler prophesied all of this in his 1918 classic “Der Untergang des Abendlands.” The only way to arrest our culture’s dive into decadence is to commit mass-suicide or become Nazis.
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Women run around reality like decapitated chickens; they take what they’re given and can’t be blamed for loving the easy, peaceful life.
Men are to blame for the current disarray. They’ll talk a big game about ropes and rifles and the day of reckoning, but serve up a side of cunt and they’re all in — men could give a shit about other men. They live always and only for that elusive second Mommy.
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All too sadly, QFT.
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I remember Arpagus saying something like even most guys who know the truth are only one blowjob from selling out.
Personally, I could care less who hates Africans. It is this that leads me to be so hard on the racetards. At the end of the day, they are unwilling to sacrifice their women’s comfort, even their comfortable illusions.
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Word salad.
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Nope. Just over your head.
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I was at a wedding last weekend where the officiant (a woman) told a story about the bride’s recently deceased dog – the bride and 3 of the bridesmaids started CRYING.
It was obnoxious
[CH: Everything is wrong with that scene. Everything.]
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yea that’s actually completely batshit insane
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[…] Bearing Witness To The Self-Destruction Of The Western Woman […]
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Well, what do you know?
This tragic story is repeating itself all over the “west”, to use that loose term which describes the largely Anglo-centric economies of North America and English-speaking Europe.
Over a year ago the Chateau carried a link to an article about a respectable US couple who realised that they could benefit more from failing to co-operate with their bank and taking a bolshie approach, rather than toeing the line.
It’s over.
Did I ever think i would find myself saying:-
(1) hard-working, talented and competent people are punished;
(2) lazy, slobbish, arrogant and dishonest people are rewarded;
(3) the loudest mouth gets listened to;
(4) cheats prosper;
(5) nice guys come last.
That is what we have inherited. That dystopia has already come. However, its bitter harvest is only just beginning to ripen.
It’s over.
Regarding this particular post: fat over-entitled lazy indebted tramp is shocked that a degree in horse’s bollocks doesn’t open the doors to a wonderful life for her.
Our middle aged people do not tick like adults – a life of indulgence has them this way.
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Well said. Amyl nitrate for everybody, on the house!
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Has anyone found anything positive feminism has done in the last 50 years? It looks the outcome is actually a total disaster for everyone involved. Except for all the pussy us alpha males get, but that isn’t good for society in the longterm.
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The collapse of civilization is, according to the left, a good in itself. It’s appropriate revenge for all the evil white men and capitalism have wreaked on the world.
If only the white man had never come to the New World, and the Aztecs were still ripping people’s hearts out of their chests.
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Yes, the indigenous hordes even now plot their revenge against their former masters, err I mean “racetards” as some of the more brazen of their kind are apt to describe us as. Alot of it is delusional projection. Their buzzwords are typical. Calling us slaves, racially impure, or my personal favorite, “white”, calling into question even the obvious of the existence of our ethnicity. Remember, race only exists and matters when it’s THEIR cultural identity on the line.
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Get a culture instead of just a color, and you’ll have a point.
You probably have a few to choose from. Be someone instead of selling out your identity.
As it is, all you have is a cattle tag. When you start behaving like a human being, then others may start to relate to you like one instead of a stereotype.
I tell “black” people the same thing. You don’t get special treatment in this because you’re pale either.
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Most white people have a culture… (indeed… one that is the envy of the rest of the world, judging by how you colored folks take pains to run to and/or remain living amongst us at every given opportunity)… stemming from one of the various European nations.
In fact, many whites can claim two or more glorious subset cultures under the “white” banner, depending upon their mix of English, German, French, Russian, etc., etc., etc. parents and grandparents… although the term “Western Civilization” suffices for the most part.
Cattle tag, indeed… that’s rich, coming from a blowhard Negress whose bruthas and sistahs couldn’t scream “BLACK AND PROUD” loud enough, lo, these past three generations… whose skin color, for the most part, is their sole… and most dubious… source of pride.
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No, what “white” people have (that you yourself as well as others here complain about) is a malleable set of “values” dictated almost entirely by corporate interests, the successful wielding of which by the wealthy is the envy of (the elites of) the entire world.
If “white” was a culture, you wouldn’t be complaining about the dominant culture being anti “white” because you would be aware that like feminism and the general multikult, “white” was part of the de-naturing process.
If the culture was truly anti European, nobody promoted in pop culture would wear a weave or lighten their skin. They also wouldn’t need to become stereotypes to be both ethnic and famous.
You see nothing but what feeds your poor me attitude. The same forces against you are the ones against me, but instead of joining forces, you stew in nostalgia for a world that never existed. So stew. Just don’t bitch at me because my way requires more courage.
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Queen of Babble-On continues her quest to paint those who dare to speak the truth about Modern Babylon according to the “loser, you’re just jealous” standards of the Cathedral.
“Poor me”? Is that what CH is saying on the innumerable posts which highlight the current malaise of the West?
Is that what I, and innumerable posters are saying when we skewer the likes of you and your ilk?
Pack in it, porky… another ongoing theme of the chateau, if you hadn’t noticed, is giving the business to fat, entitled, big-mouthed cunts.
Of course, when it’s YOUR particular ox-backside getting gored, then we’re “catty” and “ladyboys”… LOOLLOOOZLZLZOZOZOZLLLLLOOOLZLZL.
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Fuck your attempt to equate your cowardly menstruations all over the comments with CH’s pleas for some of you to grow a pair and stop capitulating to women who hate you, and justifiably so, for your weakness.
Kissing ass isn’t going to save you this time. Trying to lump me in with people whose blindness I abhor will also not save you. Everybody remotely sane here and even a few who are a bit questionable, are clear on my position. That is earn it or don’t, but if you’re in the don’t then don’t bitch about what you don’t have the sack to pursue. That’s it.
Part of that pursuit must be a good hold on reality, and “white” is not reality. It is an illusion that made you easier pickings for the rich who, I assure you, know their ancestry quite well. If you hate nihilism and nietzschean philosophy so much, you should probably stop falling for games both play. Ya think?
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See what I’m talking about? More projection from the cultureless cattle… not even going to touch the obvious masculinity either.
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The attempt to divide Western Europeans based on tribal lines and to declare these groups as seperate ethnicities is nothing new. Obviously an Irishman and a German have nothing genetically or culturally in common, right Nicole? Standing in the forest screaming about a lack of trees means you should stick to what you do best… now leave the room. Men are talking.
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Awareness of one’s ancestry is only divisive in people who feel over entitled to unearned status. If you didn’t believe that being born makes you better or worse than anyone else who was also born, their being of a different ancestry would not lead you to feel they were lesser.
The problem for you is that what it would do is put you with your culture(s) under the same scrutiny that it does other Europeans. You wouldn’t be able to deal with that, and this is how the idea of “white” was more appealing in the past and stays appealing today. It allows you to presume to be on equal standing with others who have pale skin but more actual domination in their histories and present.
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Oh, by the way (and I am not sure if those in North America may avail of this online service) – check out 4OD, the British online tv service for their tv station, Channel 4 Television.
On 4OD, check out “Skint”, a new 3-part documentary which started last Monday, in the Westcliffe Estate in Scun_Thorpe (I had to break the name of the town because it inevitably fouls up the internet if typed in its accurate way!!!)
If “Skint” is how things are turning out … ?
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Sadly the same article can be written about western men. I’m in a public library doing some research just walked out and I saw 3 lard boys with massive massive guts. These guys are mid 20s in age and look like dogshit. Wouldn’t be surprised if they lived off their parents teat.
With the exception of my core group of friends the majority of younger men I know look like crap.
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True, that
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Reading this at a cafe in S.F. Anyone wanna take bets on how long it takes the Gestapo to show up and throw me in the hoosegow?
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Weight gain, escalating student loan debt, and poor career and financial prospects?
I foresee mass suicide amongst the XX in the near future.
Thankfully this will most likely cull undesirables like Francesca from the gene pool.
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The single best experience I ever had, from the stand-point of sanity-getting, was to go to Fairbanks, Alaska in the summer after my Sophmore year with the intent of making some seasonal money. My Dad bought me a one-way ticket to get there and by his handshake he let me know exactly how I was to pay for the one back. He never wasted a second trying to talk me out of my scheme.
Of course, Nobody in Fairbanks had the slightest reason to give an unknown me a break; or even to piss on my ass if my guts were on fire.
As events turned out, I got into the local Newspaper twice and got invited to the home of the chief BLM potentate. for to meet his daughter. Long story…And I have forgotten everything about the name of that under-aged Eskimo girl.
But the lesson remains the Same
Boldness works.
If you are anonymous, and 4.000 miles away from folks who can accurately identitify you, and are basically good looking… Game=boldness. Full Stop.
In my case i had a good start on the boldness question because I had shown up; I was, like, effing there in the dive bars at the end of the World.. The phones barely worked back then and the radio mostly told obvious lies about about all kind out things.
Eskimo Teanagers have families they want to keep;in touch with and some degree of virginity they want to be keep.
By that does not meant they reject the pretence of coolness as the ultimate goal. Precede accordingly.
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are eskimo girls’ pussies colder than normal girls?
[CH: Nah. Just more fur-lined.]
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>> BTW, I haven’t ever met a guy interested in me who met the following specifications:
1. A guy who you could marry (meaning not crazy, not an alcoholic etc)
2. A guy who would marry you
3. A guy who was willing and able to support a family on his own dime
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Men like that are gold. And no one ever mined a gold nugget by digging in random places. You have to get your ass to where the good stuff is. How many student-chapter engineering conventions have you attended?
Do you ever APPROACH men?
If not, STFU.
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There was an article recently that conservative men have more upper body strength than liberal men. There are a variety of ready made theories for why this might be true, which could reflect either good or bad on the conservative male (He is insecure versus he has self respect, etc. Lively minds can make up anything they want.)
However, one thing stands out. If you make yourself more attractive to the opposite sex by natural (real) means, you are making yourself into a healthier and better person.
A man will lift weights, exercise, control his weight, become educated, be independent and effective in a variety of situations. He doesn’t abuse his body with chemicals. He will make money. He will not whine or blame others for his shortcomings or disappointments. He will approach life as an adventure and a challenge. And, at some point, he will look for a female companion to share his life and raise children.
All these behaviors will make him healthier and a better person independent of whether they get him laid. Unlike a hair transplant, which might get him laid but won’t make him healthier or more prosperous.
Same for a woman. If a woman keeps herself attractive by natural means (weight control, exercise, not breast implants), doesn’t abuse her body (drugs, tattoos), becomes educated , grooms those mental and behavorial attributes which men find attractive (Ladies, you know what I mean. Just be a good woman. Men will fight and die for a good woman.), makes her way in the world with grace, style, and commonsense, and sets definite expectations of behavior for the men she chooses for her companions, she will have a happy life.
It is really simple.
Francesca is a lost soul. Just road kill on our highway to hell. Cornelius is well advised to get her out of his life ASAP.
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It is much worse than anyone even thinks: Francesca, at each step along the way that she deflects responsibility for her situation, must back up HER choice by demonstrating the consequences. Since a politically correct society will never call her out, she will eventually fall ill, suck even greater resources, all self-reinforcing acts.
I have had “clients” that – thru sheer force of achieving victimhood – have immobilized themselves long enough in order to form blood clots propagated to their lungs. Yes, a tragedy, only worsened by the fact that you are now paying to sustain them. For “winners,” this is the ultimate “lose-lose.”
When there is no Truth in a society, eventually people lose their ability to be anything more than a drain. They become vested in emphasizing failure and disregarding “better.” They don’t want help (like most of us define it), they want comfort and recognition, and are deeply offended by the slightest hint that this would come from their own effort (internally or externally). After all, wouldn’t effort negate the whole tapestry of their life they have striven to achieve? And continuing to paint this picture is consistently rewarded.
Eventually, she loses even the vocabulary of conveying the “bright side” of life. Joy and beauty become feared. There is no “better.”
I see this every single day in my “clients.”
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Couldn’t have said it better.
Growing up, I hated going to (Catholic) church. I hated all the rules, etc and insistence on there being one Truth. I thought the priest was closed-minded for knocking relativism and modernity.
Then I grew up and I got the point. People who believe in nothing are miserable. If there’s no right and no wrong, what’s the point in making a good or bad decision? How can you even ask that question if good and bad don’t exist?
The fact is that the world has gone crazy in a lot of ways. The social obligations we all accepted in the past have given way to chaos. Rather than progressing towards greater social organization and beauty, society is falling apart and becoming more vulgar.
I live near a very conservative Catholic parish and often go there just to hear the priest openly preach what can no longer be said outside the walls of the church. It’s like time travel to hear words like “community,” “honesty,” “generosity,” “selflessness,” “truth,” restraint,” self-control,” “family,” “consequences,” and “moderation.” The priest loves all that was once considered normal and detests our broken modern society. No quarter is given to the SWPLs (line of the year: “Everyone is getting fatter, but no one is eating more or exercising less. Must be evolution picking up speed!”).
I’m not even a religious person but where else can I hear that forgotten vocabulary on a regular basis?
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On a slight tangent, here is an article about John McGuinness, who is a Member of the Lower House of Ireland (the republic of). McGuinness has always been outspoken and very much pro-people. He was one of the first Members of the Parliamentary Party to speak out about the abject failure of Brian Cowen, the previous prime minister …
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/mcguinness-coalition-has-failed-to-keep-the-people-safe-29260037.html
McGuinness is making a point that resonates with the politics of the Chateau – that “over government” by the state (be it a state of the US, be it the Irish state, be it the European Union, be it the US Federal Government or whatever) is choking the activity of ordinary, decent hard-working people and, so, is ruining their lives.
Too true. 2013 is a critical year because our states – wherever they are – are grinding to a halt. Government has spent the past thirty years shrugging its shoulders and setting up one unaccountable state agency after another. None of them works in public and none of them answers to anyone.
One example of this (at least here in Ireland) is called Garda Vetting – or police vetting. This is a process ostensibly designed to protect children (instead of improving the standard of policing which would ACTUALLY protect children) but, in fact, it is a licence to snoop into people’s pasts and to harass people who might have fallen foul of the police in their distant past.
How? This is because the process allows the police to send a potential employer a chosen and cherry-picked record of the jobseeker’s past INCLUDING court appearances and NOT JUST convictions.
So, even an innocent person gets treated like a criminal. The entire process of Garda vetting creates a paper trail of red tape and probing which would not be out of place in the worst nanny-police state imaginable.
That’s not even remembering how slow the Irish civil service really is. Look at this:-
http://www.thejournal.ie/teacher-vetting-857718-Apr2013/
Bring the flames! These people are at war with us!
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That Garda vetting stuff reminds me of the IRS scandal in the US. Textbook political persecution.
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Quite right
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Oh, and there is one other thing: while the Irish Justice Minister said that Garda vetting was only regarding convictions, this is not true. Garda vetting discloses any convictions that the teacher has PLUS any court appearances, even if the teacher is acquitted – so you’re guilty even if you’re acquitted.
It stinks – and it is JUST like the IRS scandal. A trojan horse for political agendas
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This is true. The oppressive omnipresent, omnipotent state is destroying people and their natural institutions of marriage, family, church, nation.
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The central topic of this post – indebted and deluded woman – shows a bigger picture: that the impending economic collapse will be caused by the indebtedness of individuals as well as by the fecklessness of our leaders.
How many other people in North America / Europe etc are like this woman? This foolish woman was sold a notion of a lifestyle which has become, simply, unattainable. Unable to face reality, the woman retreats into ever further delusion.
Around 1800 Britain (England really) was the centre of the world. The Industrial Revolution started in the mills of England and saw enormous population and urban growth. During its peak England was the engine of the world and, through their ingenuity and relative civility, the English created the biggest and most profound cultural and economic empire ever – think: why do Americans, South Africans, Israelis, Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians and the Irish all speak English? Why is English still the state language of India? On top of this the English also bequeathed all of those societies their common law legal system – the best and most incorruptible ever.
Industrial England ground to a halt in the 1980’s. Margaret Thatcher (ra ra!) realised this and also realised that the arrogance of the trade unions in the post-war socialist state had wrecked England as the world’s engine. By 1979 when Maggie took over, the UK was in a terrible state – strikes all the time, manufacturing destroyed, violence in Northern Ireland and a militant trotskyist left on her flanks.
She took care of this but, ironically, it was her foresight of the crock of shit which the European Union always was which drove her from office in 1990 (perhaps, also, her incipient dementia). In her contempt for the European Union, Maggie was 25 years ahead of her time … incredible.
China, India and Pakistan are the world’s engines now.
The Chinese / Indian equivalent of General Motors does NOT need a squillion dollars just to stay open.
It’s over …
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2 quibbles:-
A. the trajectories of the societies with the best and incorruptible law is definitely down, hence the laws could not be that good.
B. From afar it looks like maggie is just another patsy. memeber of the false opposition. possessing of a bigger bark than bite, she serves as the epitome of the ever failing opposition to the left and at the same time as a figure of hate for the activist left. Her victories were really in the end leftist victories.
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Not really re. Maggie.
Her politics evolved from being quite centrist in the early 1970’s when she was a Minister under Ted Heath’s premiership to being strongly libertarian by the time she was driven from office in late 1990.
British Prime Ministers do not have the imperial status or rights of an American President who is the US head of state. The British head of state is the Queen.
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I do not know enough about the situation in Ireland so I’m not going to comment but I do know Ireland is populated with Caucasians so I’m fairly certain the governing body has it in their heads to annihilate your tribe. How is immigration there? Has it become an issue yet or are they still working on that?
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Pakistan?!?!!
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I read somewhere that cat owners are smarter than dog owners. But non-pet owners are smarter than both.
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Think carefully, Cornelius, but don’t dawdle. Think and take action. Various permutations of horrible (thanks for doing all the hard work, previous commenters) will happen if you don’t act.
Sad thing is, Francesca is an average woman. If anything, brighter than average, but still following the herd. We women can’t help it! In a sane society, Francesca would never have got herself into such a fix.
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Saw hordes of youth in the past two days. Sad to see so much misshapen lumpiness and poor eating choices. Yet, once again, struck by the fact that while I work out and feel like I’m in good shape, I simply cannot keep up others who carry this extra weight no matter whether they are older or younger. I need more rest, more regular mealtimes, etc. I have become convinced that while I am healthier, they actually have more energy due to their vast storage of it. Its a wacky world where normal sized people are seen as abnormal and looked at as weak compared to their caffeine and sugar fueled counterparts. I guess they might be getting ahead in the short term, but my goal is always to win the war.
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Interesting point I have thought of. Not to join the iamb victim from the part of the problem is the sedentary office lifestyle that people are in perfect shape for what they do eight hours. I’m in pretty good shape for a lawyer but I have a little bit of a belly and I tell people being is being in shape to be a lawyer lots of extra stored energy to let me sit there all day reading and writing
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Dictated at a whisper voice in a restaurant but I think you get what I’m saying being that is being in shape for being a lawyer extra stored energy sitting around your gut let you sit there for nine hours and mobile in a chair. Not to support PIM a victim crowd but yeah 90% of people working in office cube sitting in front of a computer all day and being that is being in shape for what they do eight hours every day if you get my drift it sucks we should all be out on a farm
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I guess if you have the “food” right there on your body, you don’t have to stop working to eat.
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Be careful man. Excess belly fat raises estrogen levels and can be tied to diabetes. Get rid of it. A couple of people on here follow a more paleolithic type diet, me included. I used to be overweight and felt like shit. Never felt better when I switched to a natural diet.
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“It’s interesting how since Francesca has blimped-out that she now makes regularly derogatory comments about attractive women.”
Resentment, the leading cause of feminism.
“Also, she seems to have formed a pathological attraction to my dog.”
Typical bitter, unattractive female behavior. Their obsession with pets comes from the fact that pets are the only beings that won’t judge them, at least not discernibly.
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Seems like the crisis facing the west is multi-pronged:
1) Men have forgotten how to treat their women, and the women have forgotten how to live as women should.
2) Deceit and trickery are the new norms. When the big banks themselves collude and connive (think Libor scandal) and the government gives them a free rein, there is no incentive for responsible behaviour or fair play any more.
3) Everyone’s looking out for only themselves – their food, their money, their enjoyment, their holidays, etc etc, giving rise to an atomised society where nobody greets their neighbours any more or be a part of the larger community.
A lot of solutions are thrown around, but has anyone considered Islam? Muslim societies have no problems with the above three issues (think decent muslim societies like Iran or Turkey, and not crazy ones like Pakistan or Somalia). Of course, one could argue that no Muslim society has developed into an industrial society on its own – and thats where I see the west (more specifically, westerm man) can fit in. A critical mass of white men joining up could change everything. The naturally rational, scientific outlook of the western man could transform the desert cult and drag it kicking and screaming into the age of reason. In return, the ethics and morals could be borrowed and tailored to western standards. A win-win situation, isn’t it?
Disclaimer: I’m not a muslim. Just someone who has observed them quite closely. And I think that ‘Game’ is a social aberration, a last-ditch attempt by desperate men to grab what should rightfully come their way. Game, when played in the right spirit by decent men with their heads and hearts in the right places, can be a social good but I see far too many cads and thugs running it, making the rest of the men look bad and potentially screwing it for everyone.
Peace
SlayerS
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Anyway, bring the flames …
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The hamster’s attempt at satire:
http://literaryreference.tumblr.com/post/50677204942/why-do-men-keep-putting-me-in-the-girlfriend-zone
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You are being disloyal to your friend. Give her good advice but don’t denigrate her behind her back. And why do you place such emphasis on her being fat, mentioning it over and over and saying how no man would find her attractive? – how dishonourable and ungentlemanly of you. Your friend, whom you are so disdainful of, may have depression or other problems that are making things more difficult for her. I hope that she is not aware of your blog.
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In other words, shame on you, shame shame shame. Now behave like a perfect doormat to the fat moocher.
So, it appears you owe your houseguest loyalty, honour etc, quite beyond merely letting her overstay her welcome. I suspect there is, alas, no recognized reciprocal obligation. If she found a better beta, she’d be gone tomorrow, and Lyndy would applaud her for taking charge of her life.
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[…] The loser I was; a story of porn. Related: A story of self-destruction. […]
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Cornelius’ description of his new roommate’s attitude toward her dismal financial condition sounds eerily and terrifyingly familiar. It is almost the same exact attitude demonstrated by my friend about her own considerable student loan debt (not as bad as Cornelius’ friend – “only” about $75k). Her father is also a friend of mine, and I went to their house for dinner one evening. At table this young woman described a telephone conversation she had had that day with a representative from her student loan company. In short the repayment options they were offering her were not exactly what she had in mind, because, as a barely employed part-time worker right out of college, she was planning on paying something like $25 or $50 a month. This wasn’t going to fly with them and they wanted a more aggressive repayment plan. My friend commented – you can imagine the tone of voice a young woman would use when saying something like this – “I couldn’t believe how unreasonable they were! I’m *trying* to do the responsible thing!” I was fairly bewildered by her notion of responsibility (because it’s obvious she just hadn’t given repaying her loans any thought whatsoever – like most college students these days but still). Her father said, “Well, you should have told him you’re just not going to pay them back at all. What are they going to do to you?” Disgusted, I said, “They’re going to wreck her credit score, that’s what they’re going to do to her.” He looked at me and said, “So what?” Amazingly, the father then made a segue into a discussion on the immaturity of today’s young men. (Maybe that is because he saw my reaction to his daughter and was saying he wasn’t so impressed with me himself; he tends to give corrections indirectly like this.)
I have spent a great deal of time with this family consisting of husband, wife, and three daughters. The girls are quintessentially modern American women. Spoiled, bratty, rude, oblivious, irresponsible, selfish… all of it. As I first got to see this side of them I kept waiting for their father to correct them. I’ve waited a long time now and it has never happened. The mother tries sometimes but to no avail; they just don’t respect her. The father is the lynch pin in this family. All four women definitely look to him as the “heavy” in the household, there’s no question about it. It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize this, but for anyone who wants an explanation on the why these three girls are the way they are, they need to look to him. His daughters are exactly what he wanted them to be. From what I’ve seen middle-aged men as a rule are unwilling to assert any kind of moral authority in their families or in society generally. I think that’s the key to understanding people like Cornelius’ roommate and my friend. Based on this experience I believe the whole mess would be solved fairly easily and painlessly if fathers would act like fathers.
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To make things better for Francesca, her swingeing new student loan makes her an even more abysmal catch than before. “Caveat provisor.”
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This is probably the best reader’s submission I’ve read here. It’s a measured, nuanced and clearheaded presentation of a dire situation.
I’m fairly sure that Francesca has depression, possibly with an intermittent hypomanic element. I recurrently had debilitating bipolar disorder in my teens and early twenties, and Francesca’s behavior fits the bill: lethargy, paralysis, overeating, inappropriately demonstrative behavior in social settings. The description of her descent into this state from a prior state of unusually strong self-control suggests to me that this is more than just opportunistic mooching. The average mooching roommate has not completed a difficult technical degree and then held down a mindnumbing job in her field for several years.
Of course, Francesca has gotten herself into extremely destabilizing circumstances. This may well be the cause of her depression. Manic-depressive symptoms can be very responsive to external stimuli, especially if the disorder isn’t severe at the time. In other words, she has probably made herself sick by taking out a reckless amount of student debt for a degree that is professionally marginal at best.
The rub, then, is that one of the most effective ways to stop Francesca from digging herself deeper into a hole is to forgive her debt. This would actually be a very reasonable and equitable tack. No reasonable or aboveboard loan officer would ever approve $175k in high-interest debt for a degree that would most likely lead its holder to a lower-paying job than she previously held.
And we’ve only seen the very tip of the student loan iceberg. Many observers believe the student loan sector to be a bubble that will burst at least as dramatically as the subprime mortgage bubble did starting a few years ago. The aggregate financials are horrifying. I have no doubt that if student loan laws aren’t drastically reformed soon, we’ll have more workplace and school rampages on our hands than we care to imagine. Actually, we already do, but the end game of the student loan racket will make these rampages even more common. That sort of financial death squeeze is a sure-fire way to set normally peaceable people off.
It’s just another reason why societies should avoid financialization like the plague. Kevin Philips has written about what happens when formerly industrious societies turn speculative, and it isn’t pretty at all.
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