A reader, somewhat drunk on his own amusement, passes along the Facebook page of the thoroughbred that sired the Kentucky Derby winner.
This is the father of the Derby winner. This is what your Facebook page should look like!
Ok.
In 2013
- LEADING SIRE by North American earnings; 1st by N.A. stakes wins
- Sire of America’s LEADING 3-year-old, Kentucky Derby winner ORB ($2,335,850)
- 2013 2YOs in Training are averaging $264,667:Sale Topper at Barretts March – $675,000 colt;$625,000 filly and $550,000 colt at FT March; $485,000 and $370,000 OBS March colts
- 5 SWs, 10 stakes wins: KY Derby (G1)/Florida Derby (G1) winner ORB; Peter Pan (G2) winner FREEDOM CHILD; Multiple GSW KAUAI KATIE ($633,000); La Canada (G2) winner/Santa Margarita (G1)-runner-up MORE CHOCOLATE; multiple 2013 SW MOON PHILLY
- Co-#1 Sire of Experimental horses (6)
- Best books yet coming of age:
- 139 registered 2YOs of 2013
- 146 foals of 2012
So far so good. Let’s have a look at that photo.
Nice. Looking pensively into the distance. Refusing to engage the female viewer head on. Absorbed with the world out there, as if plotting the overthrow of a faraway donkey kingdom. This is filly crack.
Any adventurous and creative readers are welcome, neigh, encouraged!, to craft an online dating website or Facebook profile like our stud horse’s above, except with a few words and photos changed to indicate the featured alpha male is a human and not a horse.
Wait, CH, I’m supposed to say I sired quality children and guided 146 “foals” to their coming of age?
Yep.
Beats droning on about your code monkey career and her love of travel. You might be surprised by how many… ahem… siring opportunities come your way.
Hahaha. Have never done online dating. Might be worth breaking into with this challenge.
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code monkey. he he
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Want some fun? Make an online female profile so you can view your competitions profiles. Welcome to Chode City.
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You don’t have to go to all the trouble of making a profile to do that.
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Trouble? The incoming omega messages are half the fun.
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lozlzozlzolzz
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I did that once using a Farrah Fawcett pic from the 70’s.
*Inbox Full*
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If the picture of the girl you choose is hot enough, there’s no limit to what the guy talking to you will put up with 98 percent of the time. As weird as it is, pretending to be a hot girl on the internet will teach quite a bit about game. Let’s you see how good (or how terrible) some of tbe things you can say really appear from the outside.
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I have seen J’s in my breakfast cereal.
“Hearts, stars, and horseshoes…
Clovers and blue moons.
Pots of gold and rainbows…
AND HASIDIC JWS.”
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Tell us about your feminine feelings. Men pretending to be women to learn how to get women from duping men who are looking for them. The logic stupefies.
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Hasidic? The hell you say!
Waiter, there’s a hair in my cereal!
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> “The incoming omega messages are half the fun.”
Or you could go for that confused jail-bait deeply-troubled run-away-from-home 14-year-old lesbo action:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/142642135/Kaitlyn-Hunt-Redacted-Affidavit-Redacted
Shit reads like something straight out of the old Playboy Letters or Penthouse Forum.
This culture just can’t seem to go to hell fast enough.
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lolz about the “her love of travel” or from South Park, “tell me more about that coworker that you don’t get along with”. Srsly tho, how are all these chicks doing all this much travelling? I guess when you don’t have to pay for your own food…
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“Nice. Looking pensively into the distance. Refusing to engage the female viewer head on. Absorbed with the world out there, as if plotting the overthrow of a faraway donkey kingdom. This is filly crack.”
And not just fillies. Don’t they make porn about human chicks lovin studs like that?
Probably beats being beta male.
Just kidding.
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Catherine The Great lives on in you.
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Damn. I need to switch that juju. I’ll be living inside a slavic chick.
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Actually, she was German. Which makes sense, given how manly she was.
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Good to know. Writing wrong stuff about Cat the Great can really get you in some heat in these parts. phew.
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:: CH commenters add bestiality to the [already large] list of Fx’s issues ::
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That horse stuff about Catherine the Great is, well… horse stuff.
Another twisted urban legend, undoubtedly perpetrated by the usual suspect corruptors of history.
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I agree that, in all likelihood, Yekaterina did not fuck horses. But, I don’t know what you mean by “usual suspect corruptors of history.” Naturally, I have a strong suspicion about what you’re hinting at, but I know of absolutely no evidence that would suggest any particular group (other than random Russians and Europeans ) was responsible for the urban legend.
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Why, I don’t know what you mean by your “I-don’t-know-what-you-mean” coyness.
lulz
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Well, in case it wasn’t clear, I was and am strongly implying that you’re a fucking raving lunatic who sees Js in your breakfast cereal. There is absolutely no evidence that the tribe had anything to do with this silly urban legend.
Why do I bother? Well, your creepy obsession with all things J is worthy of being pointed out and mocked. And, in case you’ve forgotten, I’m likely whiter and undoubtedly better bred than you are, so you can go ahead and check your “but-but-but you’re a J or a J-supporter” bullshit at the door. I am anti-zionist, but I’m anti-waterhead even more so.
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neither one of you will ever work in this town again!
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Whenever a particularly lurid piece of gossip and/or other type of disinformation is disseminated nowadays, even in so-called jest, check out the by-line, the producer, the screenwriter, or the alleged pundit.
What makes you think things were any different a few centuries ago?
As far as your breeding goes, well… it’s certainly GOT to be better than your Cathedral shaming language.
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Not very sporting when a man can’t reply, CH.
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I have seen J’s in my breakfast cereal.
“Hearts,stars, and horseshoes, clovers and blue moons…pots of gold and rainbows…
AND HASIDIC JEWS!”
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I have seen J’s in my breakfast cereal.
“Hearts, stars, and horseshoes…
Clovers and blue moons.
Pots of gold and rainbows…
AND HASIDIC JWS.”
I could eat six million bowls.
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Well, your creepy obsession with all things J is worthy of being pointed out and mocked.
Was that mocking? It sounded more like Cathedral shaming language.
You fairy.
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@patriach. I legit lol’d. Well-played
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That last one was me.
@greg. I’m sure your delayed comment will deliver a rather droll response in due time
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I was and am strongly implying that you’re a fucking raving lunatic who sees Js in your breakfast cereal.
Who did you say was doing the raving here? :rolleyes
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Well, in case it wasn’t clear, I was and am strongly implying that you’re a fucking raving lunatic who sees Js in your breakfast cereal.
Well, I do see Js in my ice cream… Ben & Jerry, Breyer’s, Dreyer’s,…
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I’m a rasta Zionist. Haha. The jews got their issues. But they’ve taken their beatings along the way. Quite a few. And they’re failing pretty royally at running a successful country. So don’t put too much stock in their meddling, it seems not to benefit them too much nor any one else. What I can’t understand is why they do shit that pisses everyone off until they get killed. Again and again. Why the Muslims aren’t getting their ass kicked at the same rate. And why the intelligent white males who naturally have the most balanced successful outlooks, always pussy out to some Marxist or other ideology until they are the cause of their own destruction. Basically I don’t understand the patern of the world and why he same shit keeps repeating without nature coming and creating real balance. Why is shit so fucking weird? But now that it is I don’t worry much about nationalism or other ism’s rather I focus locally on running my own private life the proper way.
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Oh, can’t forget Häagen-Dazs.
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There ARE J’s in Alpha-Bits, fool. (Which is the alphaest of cereals.)
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Speaking of which, I could eat a bowl of Alpha-Bits and crap a more cogent response than some of the fools around here.
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The biggest fool around here is you, Greg. Your childish gibbering is embarrassing you.
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The Juice?
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Well said Greg is a fucking idiot as usual he can’t face reality and always looks to blame u know who
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Yeahokcool,
Curious. How are you anti zionist yet you claim that Greg “the third leg” Eliot is overly paranoid about their pointy headed spindley fingered meddling in the world?
Either they are worthy of scorn or they are not.
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Some of these world-savvy red-pillers (hah!) would rather rag on those who “obsess”, rather than remark on the not-so-curious coincidence of how said obsessors seem to find an awful lot of names, and in ubiquitous strategic locations at that, to obsess over?
Go figure.
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Alot of redpillers seem to havs only taken a small dosage. One thing I never liked about some of the other seduction communities (that word makes me cringe but for lack of…) seem to be ate up with politcally correct justifications for behaviors and ideas in an attempt to placate mainstream standards of belief.The inconsistency is baffling to me. Tyler Durden from RSD is bad about that. His ideas about seduction based in evolutionary theory are amorally accurate for the most part, and in the very next breath he is advocating egalitarian ideals, I.e. calling racists “creepy” and advocating quasi feminist beliefs, much like a few denizens here *cough* Nicole. It’s a form of being edgy in a socially acceptable way, like having a lucid dream while still being plugged info the matrix, so close yet so far.
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First, I’m not a “red-piller.” Second, I’m interested in intellectual honesty. When you make up facts about X (or J, for that matter), you undermine the otherwise legitimate points to be made about X because you look like either a liar or a fool. Is the message really worth more to you than the truth?
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Yeahokcool,
If you aren’t a “red piller”, than what are you doing on this site?
What truth are you alluding to? The only thing you said above is that you were anti Zionist yet you were attacking Greg for the same thing. Define your terms, explain what you mean because assuming you are using the words “redpill” and “truth” and “anti Zionist” in the way that we define them, your post isn’t making much sense.
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You can keep the PUA terminology. Not my bag. As to the J issue: there are enough truthful things to say about the J influence on the world that obviate the need to fabricate stories about them and said influence. Don’t let your passion override your objectivity.
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Red pill isn’t just a PUA term.
You’re starting to strike me as someone who gets off on believing they’re more rational than those around them, perhaps I’m wrong and you won’t mind telling me, in common language, how you have come to the realization that Greg is wrong. I have no way of verifying what he claimed, and I have no way of disproving it either, so if you’re aware of something I’m not, I’d like to know.
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If you aren’t a “red piller” than what are you and what are your motivations here?
Red Pill is not just about pick up.
If you have some sort of way of demonstrating Greg was incorrect in his assumption about the Js, then lets hear it. If you are concerned with intellectual honesty then you should have no problem admitting that it is at least possible the tribe had something to do with it.
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As in, your assertion to the contrary of Gregs is no more or less factual.
It appears your response to his original statement was a knee jerk emotional reaction, and I’m suspicious of the underlying motivation.
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@patriarch. Might I suggest you have a spot of tea from Russell’s teapot?
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Nevermind then. Evasion noted.
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Way to kill a joke, Captain Literal.
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Too many folks, yourself included, thought the stories about Kady and her horses were fact.
Admit it.
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Many assume it was true. I know it isn’t. It’s still funny.
You’re a fun sponge.
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At least I’m sponge-worthy. That’s what she said.
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Greg, you sure do make a lot of Seinfeld references for an avowed anti-Semite.
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That’s because I don’t really HATE any individuals, and take my laughs where I get ’em.
It’s just you SWPL and colored schmucks who kneejerk a guy into a broad-brush painted corner the moment he makes an unflattering (and deserving) comment about how all-too-high-a-percentage of a given group behaves deleteriously.
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That’s because I’m not an “avowed” antisemite… you fairy.
I take individuals as they come, but reserve the right to notice and remark upon, shall we say, scales being unbalanced in a given area.
Of course, if by “antisemite” you mean the modern definition of “Those who the Jews hate”, well…
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Probably because I’m not an avowed antisemite.
That’s a hang-up you SWPLs and YKWs try to broad-brush paint a guy into a corner with.
You fairy.
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My responses seem to be getting eaten by the forum software… moderator, don’t bother sending through anything already said.
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CH is clearly on holiday. Vegas odds say its Memorial Day nuptials and honeymoon. Shhh…
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@Greg, maybe the stories about the horses are bullshit but her debauchery is undisputed, she changed boyfriends as any person changes clothes (daily). Even though she was better than many of the candidates for king in her time, the greatest king of Russia was Peter the great.
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And your point is?
I was merely refuting a stupid urban legend.
You fairy.
(((shakes head)))
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Greg hates it when he’s stupidity is pointed out.
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Another anonymous dweeb making no sense… just what the chateau needed. :duckface
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But the stuff about Kim K is true…?
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Alpha of the century? lol seems like he could control women at will…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Mudgett
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He married Georgiana Yoke on January 9, 1894 in Denver, Colorado while still married to Clara and Myrta. He also had a relationship with Julia Smythe, the wife of one of his former employees; Julia later became one of Holmes’ victims.
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My facebook photo I am not looking at the camera…looking towards the side.
I don’t need that machine stealing my soul.
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I’m not on facebook. #winning.
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Who needs a profile?
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Focus on your horse cock if the moderators of the site will allow.
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Thread winner.
There’s a reason girls go nuts over horses.
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Corvinus, You ever notice how horse women are REALLY, and I mean REALLY prone to referring to their horses in a different way than their pet dogs that they pamper like surrogate human children? No baby talk or silly names for their equine companions.
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Dated on yesterday she called her horse “my studly man”. No joke that’s how stupid women are. I told her its not a man. They are really that stupid that they don’t dock points from the horse because its a ….. Ducking horse and as a result they literally compare human men who of course pale in comparison in horse girlsind
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Horse girls mind. Literally they compare you to a horse and consider you weak. They are literally not smart enough to realize its not fair because the horse is a horse. That’s how alpha they want. Literally as alpha as a horse.
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Oh hunky man. My bad. She called the horse “my hunky man”. No joke I could show you the text. Un-fucking-believable.
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That’s how alpha they want. Literally as alpha as a horse.
More evidence that IQ is irrelevant in causing ‘gina tingles.
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Big sweaty uncontrollable beast that only allows only her to safely mount him and ride off into the sunset despite that he could kill her at will…
Horses are a female fantasy if there ever were one.
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I suppose giving a horse girl a scary piggyback ride is a good idea.
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Scary piggybacks? That’s what iron horses are for… never known a motorcycle ride to fail. 😉
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They are literally not smart enough to realize its not fair because the horse is a horse.
Of course, of course.
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/horselaugh
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I’m providing you guys real up to the minute field report confirming what ur saying. My last date from match.com literally 6 days ago. Her job is a horse trainer. Literally. Lives on a farm and trains horses and gives riding lessons. Called horse “my hunky man”. LOLOLZLOLZLOLO. No way to compete with that. She has 8 horses. Literally true. I’m gonna go full asshole alpha level 12 to see what happens. And she is a tough cookie. I’m alpha just to have gotten her out with me once. She sends a one word text about every 4 days.
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Welp I have date # 2 w/ horse girl tonight. I’m cooking paleo dinner at my apartment. Bang is guaranteed. I rule.
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Be a strong stallion between her legs.
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I plagiarized the archives of CH for the construction of my profile. Rip it up if you wish, it is effective…I have no shame.
As much as I’d like to give you my life story in a profile…it’s not going to happen. However, I will say that I ‘m an awesome, stable, and fun guy looking for the same in a woman. Once you get past my charm, good looks, intelligence and my sense of humor. I think it’s my modesty that really stands out.
Naturally, I am a charming cad. I have always been one since I was a little boy. Throughout my younger years, all authority figures (parents, teachers, etc.) loved me even though I would purposefully misbehave, disrupt class, etc. all the time. Why? Well, I’m not exactly sure, but I’ve always had a cheeky grin on my face.
I prefer face to face contact over ASCII courting. You know, the world formerly known as real life; a world characterized by living, breathing humans aware of subtle changes in tone and facial expression. I enjoy being a goofball. I love it when a woman is playful and happy enough to bring that out in me. Hopefully you’re still able to giggle like a little girl…
I’m having a great time in life…but I’m starting to think maybe it’s time for a partner in crime? Might not be so terrible.
But hey – thanks for your interest. Now – write me a polite letter of introduction and tell me why your hair is worth pulling.
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Political correctness is something entirely urban. People who deal with horses, cattle and even flowers know the truths of HBD more than any manosphere blogger
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Found this on reddit cringepics. Seems like the perfect depiction of the modern female: http://imgur.com/gAGZ92o
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i just threw up in my mouth a little
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Nice. 1 bloated female diddling mindlessly above 2 eye candy sperm donor faggots…a feminists wet dream of the future.
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Wait, what was that Heartiste said about Women hitting The Wall much earlier and much harder than Men?
Wall? Meet Brooke Shields (younger than both Clooney & Pitt, too): http://cdn03.cdn.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/23/the-crap-we-missed-0523-20-435×580.jpg
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this reminds me vaguely of the joke alpha-donkey-in-afghanistan post of a number of years ago.
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‘welcome, neigh, encouraged’….editor’s pick! nice.
that horse is a smug bastard, is he not?
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Once upon a time i used online dating services to expand my snatch horizons. These days i ignore it, but back then i had great success with just two pictures of myself. One eating w some friends, seated at the head of the table and glaring angrily off to the side of the photo at soeone who was pissing me off, and another of myself shirtless on a boat and drinking a beer. The profile heading said “out on bail” w no other text in the profile at all. It served me well.
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Here is the tl;dr; audio/visual representation of this post: (NSFW)
http://whollyinappropriate.ytmnd.com/
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I’d guess this is what sperm donor profiles look like.
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O/T: I didn’t hear good things about the new “Trek” movie.
Think I will stick with old-school Khan:
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It wasn’t that long ago when women’s true nature was known and shown in the mainstream. It hasn’t even been 50 years since that episode aired and just look at how dramatically differently women are portrayed. If that episode were written today I’m sure some strong heroine would have filed a sexual harassment suit against Khan and he’d get on his knees and beg for mercy with tears streaming down his face.
PS, JJ Abrams truly is a talentless hack.
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Yeah, I think the cast is good, the script and direction sucks.
It is like the movie is taunting the audience with all of its stupidities.
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Oh, no working writer today could write Khan as he was meant to be written. if they had a seduction scene in this years movie, it would have been laughable or all out clear cut rape. The men who wrote the oringal star trek weren’t geeks who grew up watching star trek. the “men” who write that crap now are the geeks who grew up watching star trek because they had nothing better to do and no social skills. They didn’t realize that while worshipping at the womanizing swashbuckling feet of Kirk and Khan, they were writing a version of themselves into their boring television shows and movies.
No, if they had attempted such a scene today, the writers would be BURIED ALLIiiiiive BURIED ALIIiiiiiive
BURIED ALIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiive
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Better tell his banker that, nameless sucker. Sour grapes is the best drug in the world, I was an addict too.
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another funny thing about that clip… IIRC the woman was a diversity hire posted to the Enterprise as ship’s historian. They even knew the score on humanities degrees back then too!
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[…] The Perfect Alpha Male Online Dating Profile […]
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Anti-fatty war field report:
Fairly recently, my cousin’s wife, who’s otherwise not a bad woman, put up some fat-apologist bunkum, and some of her friends were endorsing it. I gave them trouble for it and didn’t back down when I got some female hamstering in reply.
Fast forward a month: my cousin’s wife has started a weight-loss regimen, has lost 10 lbs, and is shooting for 20 more.
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Good on ya mate. Some of these lassies rationalize wacky ideas if there isn’t a man around to set them straight.
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Corvinus. Changing the world, one pudgy vagina at a time.
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Ch should ban Greg stupid Eliot the fact he isn’t means he thinks just like him and is just as obsessed yet he banned thwack
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Horses help women get/stay sane. This is so not new.
The British and European Elites always made sure that their young women-folk did a lot of what???
It was not learning to play bridge or pee-nukle.
No. Get them on a horse from age 3-4. They will love all the dirt and shit and kicks and they will know it, by and by. That way, they have at least a chance at finding some Self-Knowledge.
Priceless.
Did S. Speilbergs daughters or D. Trumps daughters grow up without strong horse-love?
Do not be silly.
My daughter was getting paid to ride other peoples show horses when she was 16. Excellent! Very excellent.
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Not the kind of horse love we are talking about buddy.
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Three replies banned, im kinda flattered. 🙂
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don’t be until you are hung from a tree.
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[…] traditional Christian wife. These laws exist to stop the horrible exploitation of women. So back to banging bar sluts! God bless […]
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Incorrect! I ave the perfect alpha male dating profile.
It consists of one word.
Rape!
Thus far, I have 6 x 10^13 responses. Half from thwack’s mom. But I don’t do wildebeests.
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It’s amazing CH
Until the 1920’s in America it was UNDERSTOOD as OBVIOUS that selective breeding was the way to a strong nation.
Darwin entitled “The Origin of Species” with subtitle “The Propagation of Favored Races” – in other words the stated intent of his revolutionary understanding of evolution was : use this wisdom to Increase the Potency of your Race
Will Durant, the legendary historian, concluded in “The Lessons of History”, after the first conclusion he came to “Life itself is Competition” that “All great races that have made their mark in history have had a tremendous race pride”…
Today somehow ANIMALS it’s accepted should be selectively bred – yet for humans, the highest species on earth, somehow it doesn’t matter
Or is this only for Americans? We notice that certain tribes place great importance on marrying a high status man, or a man with great intelligence, or a man with money.
The Cathedral will wither in front of a few men bold enough to speak the simple obvious.
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If there were more women that thinks like this, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-doyle/women-five-reasons-your-d_b_2341955.html , I am sure chateau will be out of business. Chateau, read some of the feminist comments.
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i tried the asshole style dating profile,
one pic of me, the most bad boyish i could find
info about me: smart, sexy single
interested in: i want to cum in your face, ditch you and never call back
opener: i am god (also tried do you find me attractive and a few others)
results: got way more replies with a simple hi! but a few gals put some effort in ther respones and not only ok atleast
might be dependant on the site though, my best opener on another dating site was: you havent messaged me. for me it seems that no matter what i write the only way i get any positive response is if they like what they see. just like in real life, except irl i can add body language etc to the mix.
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Another O/T:
This morning I started watching “Kumare.” It’s a documentary about an ethnic Indian guy who assumes the fake persona of a guru from India. He fools a ton of white people in Arizona.
Holy crap, what the f*ck is wrong with the SWPL crowd??? They’ll believe in any kind of shit if it comes out of the mouth of an “exotic” man. Bad enough that they believed the crap from Barack Hussein and stuck the rest of the country with that a$$hole.
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lessons learned though, if you look good but dont have much if any game don´t bother with online game. just do what you can to look as good as possible and approach women in real life. keep it simple keep it real and go direct because if you go indirect they will most likely be interested from the start but then eventually they will tire from your pointless blabber.
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OT: Roman Polanski blames the pill for masculinizing women
Asked by a reporter how his views of women had changed over time, the filmmaker said he thought feminism and advances in contraception had blurred the distinctions between the sexes.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gGyjiTEYGEmX_0eRtg-V2H3QFovg?docId=CNG.829cfd26b6bd755b5b6aefe4459e512e.741
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I know this is off topic to this thread but very relevant to the blog. There was an excellent article in NY Times which I have summarized:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/unexcited-there-may-be-a-pill-for-that.html
Most of the recent research suggests:
1. Men desire their long term partners as much as they would a stranger of equal attractiveness.
2. Women desire their long term partners way less than they would a stranger of equal attractiveness. The only exception was when their long term partners would travel a lot and were not around.
3. Women were also more attracted to a stranger than a friend of equal attractiveness.
4. Women lie about their about sexual past more than men do. Most women quoted higher number of sexual partners under lie detector. Men did not.
(2) and (3) imply that women enjoy random hookups with strangers compared to having sex with their long term partners.
Marriage does not work for women at biological level. This is consistent with the fact that more women file for divorce and claim that they were unhappy in marriage. Maybe it’s time to stop lying to ourselves about who women really are.
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Off Topic but still a fun story unfolding of “Kaitlyn Hunt is a Florida high school student who finds herself in a sizable amount of hot water this month, as well as being at the center of a controversial national story. The senior class cheerleader was charged with felony level sex crimes after police investigated a report that she was involved in a sexual relationship with a 14 year old freshman. (Hunt is 18 years old.) The story becomes even more convoluted – and irresistible bait for the media – because the freshman is also female. The younger girl’s parents reportedly objected to what was going on between Hunt and their daughter, asked for the contact to end, and then called the police when Kaitlyn allegedly continued the relationship”
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/05/25/kaitlyn-hunt-and-the-romeo-and-juliet-problem/
The Double Standards continue Facepalm, if the 18 year old was a boy those fuckers in the media/politicians would never give him special treatment.
Let This county burn!!!!!
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I imagine this is what sperm donor profiles look like
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Disclaimer : cringe worthy newbie ahead.
I approached someone during the day and it went something like this :
Me: Hi , what’s your name? (sitting rather close to her, stick out my hand for a handshake)
Her : Do I know you?
Me : No.
Her : Then why would I give you my name?
Me : Why not? ( little pause ) What are you doing now ?
Her : Waiting for someone.
Me : Boy or girl?
Her : irrelevant.
Me : aight, bye.
Can’t really remember the exact conversation but her reaction was mostly along the lines of ‘why would I meet a random strager on the street? It doesn’t make any sense’
Some mistakes I know I did were : after me putting my hand forward ( didn’t extend it too far as I was pretty close so it was casual enough ) I let it sit there in a ‘begging’ position for longer than needed since she instantly reacted neutral/negative towards the approach. General newbie anxiety ( my friends told me after it that my face was pale; legs were shaking).
What should I have done in this case?
Should I try to pay more attention in the future to ‘record’ the exact interraction so I can review it later either here or in my head or should I just forget it ever happened and just approach until I stop shaking and I get a natural sense of things?
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This story can’t be true…
We all know, from the innumerable dancing monkey videos of random street pick-up artists posted here at the chateau, that all women will let a random stranger come up to them, any time and anywhere, and say or do just about anything he wants, while they eat it all up with a spoon, as their eyes ask for more, which their lips dare not speak.
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I blame it more on my total lack of experience than on game itself. I’m sure if I wasn’t scared out of my mind and my legs didn’t shake and I actually knew what the fuck i’m doing things would’ve been a ‘little’ better.
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Exactly. Every single time I was referred to as “creepy” or made girls uncomfortable, it was because I was not sure of whether I wanted to approach or not.
With newbs, naturally, it occurs when one is scared, and that’s probably what happened in your case. What may have cured me was getting a bad case of oneitis on a 9 for a couple years. After reading back issues of CH, it completely changed my attitude. Now losing a particular 9, or even a 10, doesn’t mean jack to me anymore.
Among the somewhat more experienced, such as myself, it has happened when a girl is so-so (6-7 range) and I wasn’t sure whether I should bother or not. Now, ironically, I’m actually less unsure of myself around the hottest girls than the average ones. With the 9s that I’ve opened, my game is at its best, but when I’m up against a 7 or below, it goes completely to shit.
In fact, my main problem right now is that my small university town is almost devoid of hot girls during the summer, especially those I have gotten good rapport with. I took a quick survey of the bars last weekend, and I did figure out which bar has the hottest girls, but unfortunately, I don’t know any of them yet.
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i think my advice for you is to tell the girl that you are nervous and you dont normally do this, the number one thing is to be congruent. like if you are visible nervous just tell her the truth, you don´t normally do this but you feel that a man should always go for what he want etc. i mean in a perfect world you would be able to fake it but until then just be honest.
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I think this is a really good idea, I might be able to go for the ‘being sweet’ route . That would indeed be congruent to both how inexperienced I am and how I look ( very young, i can pass for 17-18 lol, glasses etc ). And besides, women in my country aren’t as soulless as the stuff I read from US.
Will field test it.
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Uh, yeah… saying you’re “nervous and don’t normally do this” and taking the sweet route would completely fail with native-English-speaking girls.
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uh, so if youre legs are shaking and your voice is trembling what do you suggest? act like you do this all the time?
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awkwerdly enough my voice isn’t shaking, my body is weird. Color does go completely out of my face and I get pale but i’m just two approaches in…
wasn’t there a scientific article earlier this month that said faking till you make it works?
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Yes. Doing something scary the first time will make you do that; you’ll be terrified and want to back out. My favorite example is jumping off a diving board into a swimming pool. I was completely terrified the first time, but eventually it was no big deal.
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Don’t get in her space if you don’t know her. Handshake only if you get a positive response from her, not before. Also, approach obliquely. For a newb, it’s also better to talk to girls only if they look at you, or even better if they smile. It sounds to me as if you were trying to crack open a cold fish.
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I thought I should get a little in her space to show that I’m not scared? Didn’t know the handshake part, thanks.
I’m not that noticeable and I hang out with guys better looking than me so I can’t really wait for them to look at me, i’d lose hours just waiting. Besides even if I get rejected right now my no. 1 goal is to plow through the anxiety and fear and overcome them.
To be honest she was sitting in one place in the middle of the street looking like she waited for someone but she was one of the only solo good looking girls that day so I just went for it.
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Don’t be “scared” of her judgment. You are her judge.
It’s good to jump right into it, though, with two feet. You’ll figure out that there’s nothing to be terrified about. Get rejected by a dozen more chicks this way and you’ll be floating without the water wings. They aren’t sharks; they’re blowfish — puffed up to appear more of a threat than they are. And when you realize this you’ll relax. And then you’ll be better.
Then you might try out the ultimate pick-up rejection judo, for fun:
Matt
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It’s really odd, it’s like objectively and in my mind all you said and all the stuff taught by the manosphere makes perfect sense, not even when I go in and approach does this stuff leave me but it’s like my body and subconscious haven’t yet adjusted to this reality yet.
I don’t know if you’ll believe me but I really am not butthurt that it didn’t work or think shit about her for not entertaining me. However my body is just rejecting the idea of a reality in where i do pick-up.
After just one approach I felt like I worked a ten hour shift lol i was so stressed/tired.
The guy looked really butthurt in that video.
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try asking about her shoes her handbag her watch her hair her dress.. helps to know a little about that stuff too.. or if you want to get her name .. tell her you are able to guess people names if they one sentence.. whatever sentence she says.. say that .. that’s the sentence you came up with .. point is play..
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I guess you couldn’t tell, but I was exaggerating to make a point. Do not purchase Sully’s Pick-Up PUA Manual. In fact, you would do well to not do anything like Sully as a general principle in life.
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You would have gotten further had you walked by and gave her a judgmental look. even if shes pissed and defending herself while on the attack, its better than indifference.
Or just sit next to her and say hey. When she turns to you, say “Let’s fuck”.
if she says no or gets pissed just leave. If shes not willing to fuck right then and there, or at least have a sense of humor about it, then what’s the point??? Not worth the effort, aggravation, or humiliation.
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Question, question, question. You’re trying to interview her, loadsaguys try that, it’s not new, it’s not unusual, she doesn’t care to be interrogated, by a complete stranger.
By the way, any number of your initial approaches are going to fail, simply ‘coz she ain’t in the mood, she just had a shit day, her car broke down, whatever.
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When you approach,begin by commenting about something in your surroundings. It could be a person, it could be trash on the street, it could be a building. If she’s doing something, comment on that, too. If you can be funny, be funny.
Then move on to more general conversation, then TELL HER YOUR NAME before you ask for hers. It’s fine to offer your hand when you introduce yourself.
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Just do it often enough to get over the anxiety.
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Going away from keyboard jockeying into actually trying this stuff out reveals a complete lack of knowledge about opening sets. Out of all the manosphere stuff I read ( and I did read, a lot ) I don’t think I can remember a single post about this.
Could anyone please post ‘modern’ resources regarding opening sets? I’d rather not learn canned material if it’s possible , i very much like learning about the interractions and internalizing the principles.
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IMO, it’s best to open a girl that you’ve seen at least a couple times around, and she seems to show IOIs such as constantly looking at you, or not looking at you but otherwise getting in your line of sight all the time. That’s how I got rapport going with the two of the hottest girls in town that I know of right now.
To actually open, the “casual remark” opening has served me well. In one case I asked her if she knew another girl that I thought she looked a little bit like, and this was while she was at a table with several other people. In the other case, she kept staring at me, and giggling when I walked by and casually said “hello”, and finally one karaoke night I made some remark about how that song was rather lame and asked if she was doing anything, and of course being skeptical and semi-dismissive when she said, “yes, I’ll be singing such-and-such”.
Also, DHV. Even really hot girls warm right up when they recognize me as the TA or instructor of a class they’ve taken. If you’re musically inclined, ask to play music at different bars that allow it.
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Sadly there isn’t a setting in my life where I’d be near a group of women regularly so I could do stuff like that. Until october when I’ll start going to university atleast.
I hang out with a rather small group of people and their girlfriends and mostly outside.. most of them don’t have money to regularly go to bars/ clubs, there’s no karaoke night and their girlfriends are all already friends so they don’t invite other friends of theirs out with us. And I hate going to clubs anyway.
Can’t DHV with anything publicly as I’m neither the pack leader nor have I got talents that could help set a good first impression ( i’m a programmer ).
For this summer I won’t be able to do anything other than street cold approach so if you have any tips on that it would be great.
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You can fake it till you make it until the cows come home but if you’re a big fat Nothing at the end of the day, then your life will stay the same.
[CH: Au contraire. In at least one respect your life will be different: you’ll have had sex with cute girls instead of no sex with no cute girls.]
Your true self will always shine through
[Faking it actually creates a new personality in time. This has been proven by scientific study, not to mention millions of personal testimonials.]
and I suspect that is why many of these famous, set-loving “PUAs” lose their girlfriends.
[You’ve got causality backwards. Most cads “lose” their girlfriends because they want them lost. There’s a certain breed of man who loves variety and the thrill of the chase.]
There’s no doubt in my mind Mystery stands there going through all his rules in his head.
[Maybe, but it appears to have worked for him. He’s got a kid now with a hotnsexy chick.]
The mistake so many people are making is they see the woman as the ultimate prize.
[From your gene’s pov, sex is the ultimate prize.]
You should be trying to dominate in every aspect of your life.
[Why herd the cows when you can squeeze the milk for free?]
A woman is just an accessory.
[Some accessories are more equal than others.]
A trophy is just a reminder.
[Have you ever been in love?]
You have to make a choice.
[Sez who? Pick-up and careerism aren’t mutually incompatible.]
Do you want to be a MAN or some feminized snarky bitch who can insult a woman into bed?
[I always suspect the kinds of guys who write stuff like this are guys who envy the snarksters for their ability to score.]
Does anyone here listen to these PUAs in their videos and think “God I wish I could be him..”?
[Do you wish you could be Barack Obama, President of the United States of America?]
Who the hell would want to behave like the PUA Tyler Durden???
[TD’s way is not the only way.]
he’s annoying as fuck.
[Chicks dig men who impose.]
Those guys are nothing but gay men who like to fuck women.
[Gay men don’t like to fuck women.]
They’re worthless beyond that.
[Keep telling yourself that.]
Leading her to believe you’re worth the effort and actually being someone who is worth the effort are 2 very different things and the truth always finds it’s way out.
[So you believe men should work hard to make women believe they are worthwhile to them?]
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Ha, yeah, I understand your situation. I know I can’t rely upon my friendship networks for dates because everybody else is pretty much coupled up, except for a handful of girls that either aren’t interested in me or I’m not interested in.
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May I suggest first focusing simply on talking to some girls with no expectation of the outcome. As a matter of fact, for the first few apporaches actively make up your mind that you WILL NOT under any circumstances sleep with these girls. Convdfsation ONLY. The reason I’m saying this is because your story sounds similar to mine. In the beginning the only thing I could think about was what shd thought of me, how did I sound to her, what should I say next etc…I was so deep in my head ttying to do everything perfectly that the conversation appeared awkward and the girls could sense my outcome dependency a mile away. I finally decided to simply talk to girls, having decided under no circumstances I would go any further than conversation until that part was under control. Did it take time? Yes it did, but I couldn’t move forward until I had that under control.
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agree with this, also another idea may be to try the acocalypse opener.
that is what i am doing right now, i have done atleast 50 of these now in clubs and daytime. very rarely will you get a negative response in my experience except this young chic who screamed and runned away when i asked her if whe wanted to have sex with me lol. haven´t gotten laid yet but a few makeouts and 1 number which is better then nothing.
for me its perfect, i have very low tolerance for making small talk with people i dont know. i much prefer to go up to a woman, make my intentions known and then really it is up to here if she wants to join in on the fun.
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its not only people i dont know btw, like if i get a girlfriend/fuckbuddy most of the reason i spend any time with them outside of the bedroom is to improve my odds of getting repeat business. can´t be too much time though, because then it´d make more sense for me to spend my money on hookers.
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I think that’s too ballzy given my body reactions, maybe when I start calming down I’ll try it.
If I could sell it properly it would be perfect for me aswell, I’m not good at making smalltalk because I’m not interested in almost anything normal social people are. And the stuff i’m interested in (manosphere and technology) are not suitable topics to discuss with girls, aren’t they?
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I don’t think I can completely shut off the thought of it eventually going to sex but I can try to convince myself. Basically what you’re saying is to just be in the moment and do whatever you’re doing at that particular point in time without thinking about future ramifications.
I will try it, thanks for the advice.
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It’s easy in concept. You have to change how you view yourself. This is going to sound stupid and cheesy but just try it. You need to pretend you are the cool guy. The guy who doesn’t give a shit. You really, really could care less. She is just a girl. She thinks dumb shit. She says dumb shit. Shes scared of spiders. Literally scared of spiders. You on the other hand, could be drafted to fight in a war. You are a man. And you are just going go talk to her. Nothing more. If she starts to be rude, ask her straight up, “um…whats your deal? You act like im hitting on you hahaha chill the fuck out.” You aren’t hitting on her. You don’t want to fuck her. Just a conversation. What you believe In your head or are attempting to believe in your head will show tbrough in your body and words, and she was literally born to read your broadcasted signals. You want to sleep with her, you’re nervous about whether or not she’s going to reject you, you start shaking and acting weird and she can see and feel it. Do you feel this nervous and weird around old women? Why not?
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She is not special. She grunts and strains whenever she takes a nasty giant shit. She probably picks her nose. If you’ve never hung around large groups of girls for extended periods of time, let me tell you…they are fucking nasty. She is not the perfect little sweetheart she pretends to be. Walking up and say “hi, what’s your name?” Shows her everything she needs to know about your intentions. Talk to her like you would talk to an ugly old woman. You ask about opening. What should you say? What do you want to say? (Besides please fuck me.)
“Look at this shitty street.”
“Haha yeah it’s pretty groady.”
At this point, keep talking. You now have an opportunity to be obnoxious and condescending about how terrible the street cleaner is. Tease her. Tell her you’d fire her for her shitty work ethic. The conversation doesn’t need to be logical because the onlg thing she’s going to be responding to anyway is ylur agressive “I dont give a shit” attitude behind what you’re saying. Canned openers don’t work nine times out of ten because the guy saying it is staring at her with fear in his eyes of her coming judgment.
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Start small, like what others said. I would suggest introducing yourself with a more socially acceptable variant of what you’re actually doing. E. g. Say you’re trying to get over your shyness by talking to new people. If she seems warm to that, ask some generic question (what she’s doing or so) then say thanks then walk away. The point isn’t to get a number or lay, but getting used to approaching. After a few weeks of doing that, try for a bit more conversation. The goal is to not need the training wheels of “getting over your shyness” as an opener.
Also I would suggest keeping a journal to document your thoughts, successes, and room for improvement.
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I imagine there was good reason to mention only women when discussing the immorality of bestiality in the bible..
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Starting to reach the point where I cold approach somewhat whenever I’m out in social situations — although, the 30 day challenge will soon be here.
It is so incredibly easy to make out with a girl, holy shit. And it means jack shit lol.
Anyway, I’m just instinctively starting to do things like if a girl is about to leave and I feel like we’re clicking…I just tell her to give me a kiss before she goes, then I go 90, we make out, and she leaves. Still haven’t gotten it to work on a girl who’s a 7 or above…but I just don’t think I’m bold enough yet.
Something that’s been happening now when I talk to girls….and I want to know if this is a shit test or if it’s just the politest rejection ever. Like, I roll in, start blah blah blahing, people like it…and then just out of nowhere “yeah you’re really attractive but you’re just not my type.” It’s happened five times and the girls were 5.5-7.5’s.
Oh, I’ve found another good response to shit tests — throwing up your hands and saying ‘you wanna take it outside, brah?!’ And then just steamrolling over their frame with a riff about the ensuing fight…’ya that’d be a good fight, you probably have a little reach — and (if you’re wanting a neg) you’re more solid in the body than me….blah blah blah blah’
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Hey bro, i’ve been reading your FR posts for a while and good for you for keeping at it. You’re going at this the right way and I’ have no doubt you on the right track.
Re: makeouts. I would argue that you ARE bold enough now, it’s just that you don’t appear to have the reps of going up to the chicks you really want but instead settling to practice on girls you think would have you and then you think you can move up. This is what i also used to do a few years ago when I was starting out with learning game. I had just taken a bootcamp with Cajun from lovesystems and I was emailing him afterward about how I was basically getting makeouts here and there but I wasn’t closing much of anything past that, and then he asked me “Are you actually attracted to these girls? Are they who you really want or do you feel like you aren’t going for it all?” I answered with “Well, i’m praciticing on 6’s and 7’s until I feel like I’m ready to move up.” He then told me to scrap that thinking, go after the girls you think are 10’s and watch what happens.
Well, after many reps since then of “hotties first, everyone else second” mentality, here are a few things I have observed:
1) The hottest are actually the sweetest, when you are genuine and straight up with them. Maybe it’s a self selecting thing that the girls I go after and get i intuitively know will probably like me back as well, but I don’t get nearly the harshness, coldness or excessive testiness I get when I cold approach somwhere between a 6 and 7.5. This is the complete opposite of what I would have guessed before I had emailed cajun about this stuff and he’s totally right.
2) Hot girls are acutely aware of the attention that they get and the power that their pussy caries, and the 6’s and 7’s know this as well. Which is why, IMO, they can be more crass and testy towards a guy (such as yourself!) who approaches and hits on them. They don’t have the clout that their hotter sisters carry, and in the back of their minds they know it. They’re probably thinking when you approach them “Ok this guy just wants to fuck me and then go after someone hotter. I’m not going to get played, so I’m just going to tell him that he’s not my type.”
3) The simple act of approaching a hot girl, not trying to show out or need anythign from her and just being totally self accepting that you are enough for her as is — this may be the highest value thing that one can do for themselves.
Re: response to shit tests. Haha tha’ts good bro. One of my go-to’s is telling a chick that she must be a UFC cage fighter because she has the ruffed up knuckles of a champion striker.
Anyway that’s all just a (long winded lol!) way of telling you to NEVER count yourself out of the finer things in life. I would even argue that the best players I’ve seen are simply men who want the best and act on it, and the girls themselves sense this and respond to it. They don’t detract or get a narcissistic injury like your local bro who hits the weights and thinks his muscles themselves will get all the pussy he deisres — no inner belief work necessary — and then when he gets the cold shoulder from a hottie he blames her like she’s the fucking bitch that is a “stuck up cunt” who’s “not even that hot”…he didn’t really like her anyway (lol).
Keep up your approaching bro! I think you’re doing great and big things are just right around the corner for you.
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Thanks a ton for the advice, I appreciate it!
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For youngsters in the Crimson Arts, you could do worse than watching D. Lynchs “Blue Velvet” a few dozen times. His teachings are not subtle but they are still somewhat oblique in their presentation because it was all 25 years ahead of its time and there was only so much room in the enlightenment bus.
Check out the virginal Laura Dern saying to the borderline criminal New Guy in her life. “I have a boyfriend, and I really love him… Now what do you want me to do?”
Or a butt nekkid Isabella Rossellini , who is covered in what appears to be human bite marks, explaining to young, innocent Laura that her new man has already put his disease in her and she is not going to give him up.
You guys should be able to finish out this heart-warming romantic fable without my help.
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[…] – The perfect alphamale online dating profile, The soft man, the hard man, and the cold […]
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http://www.alluc.to/tv-shows/watch-mad-men-2007-online/season-06/episode-09/487079.html
THis is game; Starts from 8:00, Draper comes home to Megan who’s been having some tough times on the soap opera set.
Watch.
Learn.
Don: This is Nice
Megan: It’s Thursday, I told you I was making dinner. Sit down
Megan: How’s your day?
Don; How’s yours?
Megan: It was…oh…terrible, I don’t even know if I want to talk about it…
Don: What’s for dinner?
Megan: They hate me…
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My favorite takeaway from this episode was when Don plows his ex-wife Betty. He comes into her room and starts kissing her (they’ve been divorced for years and she has been very cold to him up to this point).
Betty: “What are you doing?”
Don: “Waiting for you to tell me to stop”
*they plow*
I’ve found myself in a similar situation before when I make a physical move and the girl asks “what are you doing?” I know what my response will be from now on.
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There are so many great simple Alpha take-aways anyone can use from this episode.
There’s also the story arc from the last episode where Don gets dumped by the heart surgeon’s wife.
He goes totally beta and starts stalking her outsider the service entrance to her apartment.
Then he gets a moment of clarity when his betaness leads to a burglary at his own apartment when a vagrant comes in and robs them blind in front of his kids.
He suddenly sobers up, gets his shit together.
In the final scene he inadvertantly runs into (Sylvia?) in the elevator. She tries to make small talk:
Her: “how’ve you been?”
Draper: “Busy”….
That is how no contact is supposed to work.
Then he bangs his ex-wife in the next episode.
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I dont know why, but there is just something funny about plowin a chick I dont like, who either broke up with me or I broke up with her. They absolutely love the intimacy of it but I think they love the hamsterization of it more. Something about knowin that im on the chicks mind for a week afterwards for more or less something meaningless to me. Will he call me? Wonder what he is doing now? Think he misses me? I didnt even like it anyways? Why does it feel like he is the only one who understands me(heh)? Maybe I should text him? …. Meanwhile the beta orbiter pleads and begs her not to see me anymore and if she does not to have sex with me. LOL
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I have a profile on POF, but I don’t do anything with it. Messaging chicks online is high effort/low return. I keep the profile to let them come to me. I.e. a lottery ticket strategy. I’ve gotten 18 unsolicited messages in two months. Almost all ugs and fugs, unfortunately. Perhaps one or two are worth a drunken booty call but not worth the back and forth to build comfort before meeting.
What I want bring to the bright, unfiltered light of the manosphere today is this message from POF founder “Markus” that pissed me off:
My name is Markus and I created POF/Plentyoffish. When I created POF, I wanted it to be all about finding relationships with the right person. For the first 7 years this worked really well, I got the site to 10 million users without any employees people and POF was generating a ton of relationships. Around 3 years ago, everyone started using the website via mobile phones. Today about 70% of POF use is via a mobile phone and unfortunately about 2% of men started to use POF as more of a hookup site mostly due the the casual nature of cell phone use.
In sticking with my vision that POF is all about Relationships, I’m going to make a bunch of changes to ensure it stays a relationship-focused site.
1. Any first contact between users that contains sexual references will not be sent. Anyone who tries to get around this rule will be deleted without warning. This rule has actually been in effect since last month and it’s made the site so much better.
2. You can only contact people +/- 14 years of your age. There is no reason for a 50 year old man to contact a 18 year old women. The majority of messages sent outside those age ranges are all about hookups. Anyone who tries to get around this rule will get deleted.
3. Intimate Encounters will go away in the next few months. There are 3.3 Million people who use the site every day, of those there are only 6,041 single women looking for Intimate Encounters. Of those 6,041 women, the ones with hot pictures are mostly men pretending to be women. Intimate Encounters on POF can be summed up as a bunch of horny men talking to a bunch of horny men pretending to be women.
In short the vast majority of people will not be impacted. This is because the vast majority of people are not going around spamming women saying “let’s have sex tonight”. I can’t change POF alone, I need your help to get the word out there that POF is all about relationships!
Markus
Number 2 above is what irks me. This uberdork is imposing the feminist worldview forbiding men to lust after any women, especially the young ones. Pisses me off. There are plenty of 20 year olds that need tender instruction of an seasoned, mature gentleman such as Good Ole JR.
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is it worth it making a profile on plenty of fish. lots of girls who aren’t the bar type on their. may have to try it for some asian girls here in vancouver who dont go top bars much
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POF
Pregnant or Fat.
Do with that info what you will.
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That
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lol
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dam I might be almost done
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Here’s good text game for cheating whores
http://imgur.com/gallery/b2FXM
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