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Big Mistake

June 3, 2013 by CH

A reader writes,

If this isn’t a bad prognostication for a marriage, then I don’t know what is.

A friend of mine recently tied the knot with his college girlfriend. I admittedly do not know the bride very well, but generally she can be controlling and tough to warm up to. When you look at the picture attached, it’s apparent she hasn’t even warmed up to…her own husband.

Yes, that’s the couple’s first official kiss as a married couple. Except it’s not a kiss. His bride denied him, physically pushed him away, and proceeded to give him the cheek when he awkwardly went in for the kiss.

Seeing him, pathetically and helplessly, hunched over like that on top of his wife fills me with pity. If his wife can’t even comply to her man on their wedding day what hope is there in the future. Any takers on how long into the marriage before she starts withholding sex?

Also, as you can see in the photos the wedding was presided not by a priest, but by the bride’s fatass sister.

I’ve been to a fair number of weddings, and I’ve never seen a blushing bride’s visceral distaste for her husband quite this transparently revealed. Most women who have hornswoggled a beta provider with tacit promises of endless hot marital sex have enough self-control and presence of mind to at least make a show of it when witnesses are present, even if that show is nothing more than a quick, pursed lip kiss followed by a rapid whole body turn to relievedly face the cameras. But I suppose when the star witness is your fat sister with a Unitardian Ministry Certificate from E-Cunts.com, no one really gives a shit that you recoil when your husband kamikazes with moist chimp lips but winds up smacking air. It’s all fun and games until he’s pulling his pud to porn six months into a sexless marriage, and contemplating suicide-by-family-court five years in.

I bet the bachelorettes all wore vintage Great Bonghits For Men T-shirts at the bitchelorette party that said ALPHA FUX, BETA BUX.

(Speaking of, you can trace the accelerating decline of America to the point in cultural history when the bachelorette party surpassed the bachelor party in significance.)

Proof, as if any more were needed, that getting a woman to marry you is not hard. What’s hard is getting a woman to love you.

UPDATE

The reader who sent in the pics relays the following:

fwiw i was definitively told the pictures i submitted to you were the initial pictures of the brides reaction to the kiss and any other photos were after that fact.

All right, folks. There it is. You may now return to your regularly scheduled food fight.

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  1. on June 3, 2013 at 10:58 am Tampa

    Oh…my….god. That makes me want to utterly vomit. How much committment you think there is in a marriage where the fat friend presides over the ceremony? Utterly depressing.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:05 am Greg Eliot

      More than depressing… I’ve felt more uplifted at wakes.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:09 pm corvinus

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:50 pm corvinus

        What lame-ass drinks beer out of a mug?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 11:06 am man

        What. The. Fuck. ?. http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2013/06/dear_prudence_i_hug_my_co_worker_every_day_for_affection.html

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 4:34 am aleister

        Hug buddies wtf

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:58 pm chi-town

        A wake is both physically and socially sanitized. This would raise a stench like the very moment the land lord discovered why they were late on their rent on a smoldering summer month in Louisiana. A hazmat moment.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:31 pm Patriarch

        It’s almost love bug season down here in the bayou.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:14 am Heywood Jablome

      Bridezilla wanted a wedding, not a husband.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:32 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Ding! Ding! Ding!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:48 am da;lkjda;

        It’s not funny. Only women can get excited about it. It’s not funny at all.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:12 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Who said it was funny? I’m just agreeing with Heywood.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm platonas

        this is the credited response

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:09 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        I knew a guy who was fucking the bride (he wasn’t the groom) and got invited to the wedding. She waved to him on her way up the aisle.

        “I’ve seen things . . .”

        [CH: I have a similar story, except the bride had stopped fucking the guy by the day of her wedding. Thank heavens for small blessings, I guess… Nevertheless, for those of us in the know, it was a night of nonstop hilarity watching their eyeplay and lustful rapprochement coordinated under the blank stare of the groom’s oblivious lumpentude. When I told the girl I was with, she rolled her eyes and pleaded with me not to bring it up again. Once the marrying machinery is in motion, the bride’s girl friends will close rank and make sure all peccadillos are swept under the rug so that the show can go on without a hitch.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:23 pm Greg Eliot

        After these photos, a trip to the shoulder of Orion is looking pretty good about now.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:24 pm Mitch Cumstein

        All those marriages will be lost…in time…like…tears in rain.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:34 pm Greg Eliot

        Her mother? Let me tell you about her mother!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:28 pm Southern Man

        It’s a shame he won’t live. But, then again, who does?

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm itsme

        When I told the girl I was with, she rolled her eyes and pleaded with me not to bring it up again.

        please h3artsie don’t bring it up again, we can’t let the groom find out what a slut he’s married!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm Greg Eliot

        rule 4: no shirt, no shoes

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:21 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        His name is Robert Paulson…

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:59 pm Greg Eliot

        But only in death does he have a name.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:47 pm $100

        This is so common it’s too funny.

        My friend, very natural alpha, was telling me about a recent dental appointment he was having. The dental assistant was being very flirtatious with him, asking about what he does for fun, where he hangs out, giving him huge IOI.

        So he starts to diffuse the situation mentions the wife and kids and he says you can hear the disappointment in her voice and see it on her face.

        He then states she starts mentioning her fiance and the mood and conversation went cold.

        Point of the story is, this woman, supposedly engaged, but yet still throwing herself onto a complete stranger, probably about to marry a beta like in the picture and wants to land an alpha before the knot is tied.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm Matthew King

        No class.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:06 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Da Matthew King is Right.
        Todays little fucktard fanboyz see more honor in getting their tiny peckerz in slutt pre-berenkeified buttholzooez den day do honoring the Law of Moses JEsees Zeus Homer.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:29 pm YaReally

        I was fucking an engaged chick for almost a year and was going to make her wear her wedding dress over to my place to fuck her in it before the wedding (“well you know I’m never going to get married, so this is my one chance to fuck a girl in a wedding dress” lol). She grew a guilty conscience in the last month before the wedding though, and we ended things. I haven’t heard from her since, and hope they’re happily married and he suddenly learned how to fuck her proper, but I doubt it.

        Her BFF knew about us, but BFFs will keep their secrets, since they’re doing the same shit themselves.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:03 am Matthew King

        No class.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:27 pm the fauvist

        Class is of little use in a classless world.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 9:18 am HR Lincoln

        BFF’s keep secrets?
        Not my experience at all. When it comes to infidelities, most women HAVE to tell someone. They are incapable of bottling it up.

        Men, on the other hand, are more capable of keeping their mouths shut.

        Trust me, that woman you’re screwing on the sly IS going to tell a friend or a sister about it. Every. Time.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 9:45 am Greg Eliot

        I certainly hope so… I could use the endorsement.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 10:26 am YaReally

        Not sure what you’re talking about.

        The woman you’re banging will either tell her BFF or her BFF will be there when you guys hook up and she’ll know all about it…BUT the BFF will keep her friend’s secret. Usually because your girl has dirt on BFF as well and they have an unspoken understanding that “we’re going to go cheat on our boyfriends, but it’s okay with THIS friend because neither of us will tell on eachother”.

        Around every other friend, she’ll be a perfect angel and pretend not to know you at the bar, but it’s that one close BFF that will know and will come to your place and fuck your roommate while her friend fucks you.

        I think “most women HAVE to tell someone. They are incapable of bottling it up.” is WHY they always have that one BFF…they need to tell *SOMEONE*, so they have one friend that they can trust with all their dirty secrets and who can trust them with theirs so they can both tell someone, but it’s someone safe.

        Of course if they have a falling out there’s a chance the BFF will spill the beans, but even then I’ve found that they still tend to take the secrets to the grave because they both have enough dirt on eachother to fuck eachother over if it came down to a fight where they were bringing the heavy artilery out.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:26 am Hermitsy

        Ha, I am and was fucking the bride who danced with me in front of the groom. Hint: I wasn’t the groom.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:04 am Matthew King

        No class.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:22 am Slang

        Boy, I bet your judgments just sting right to the bone………….

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:06 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Da Matthew King is Right.
        Todays little fucktard fanboyz see more honor in getting their tiny peckerz in slutt pre-berenkeified buttholzooez den day do honoring the Law of Moses JEsees Zeus Homer.

        Little ebernekified fucktarad unmanly, honor free fanboyz zlzzzz.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:07 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hey slang

        do get off on defiling Moses’ and JEsus Law too?

        who do you hate more?

        chrictstians or jews?

        THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY

        THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR’S WIFE

        slang=tiny cocked soulless honorless fucktarad fanboyzz lozozoz

        Da Matthew King is Right.
        Todays little fucktard fanboyz see more honor in getting their tiny peckerz in slutt pre-berenkeified buttholzooez den day do honoring the Law of Moses JEsees Zeus Homer.

        Little ebernekified fucktarad unmanly, honor free fanboyz zlzzzz.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:35 am Hermitsy

        Tell that to the bride.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 11:40 am Slang

        Oh no GBFM please stop. Oh the horror and indignity of your insults. How will I ever get through the rest of the day?

        And the assumptions you make about me based on one comment. You sure must be one smart fella to know so much bout me don’t ya know.

        It reminds me of the social shaming language that feminists fall back on whenever someone says something that they don’t like. Are you a closet feminist?

        Did you get some bad feelings from my little remark. Thats ok you just hide behind your silly little leet speak, and false projection of humor, into situations that have you clearly butthurt.

        Honestly, I just feel utter contempt for you. tempered with pity.

        GBFM= someone full of anger, and way too much time on his hands, who spends all day long typing the words butthex and bernakified.

        Go get laid dude, you’ll feel better.

        Have a nice day

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 11:59 am Anonymous

        You crossed the line, kid… smart-mouthing both Matt King and GBFM, here at the chateau?

        Avaunt, you jackanapes… thou thimble… thou thread.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:00 pm Matthew King

        See? Stand firm and eventually men find common ground.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:34 am brookingstyler

      ever see a termite queen?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:08 pm Cragsleeper

      This site is always dependable for eliciting reaction whether is is of hope, frustration, aggression, or in this case flat out disgust. Tonic for the jaded. Well played, CH

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 6:52 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      i need to send dat fatass birdemadedz some t-shirts!!!!!!

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      “da professional womenz ode”

      SPECIAL WEDDING EDITION

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      dat is how we roll
      da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
      and in our anuthes it doth deosul
      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      it is da way of da fed
      to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
      cuckold dose who pay for our bread
      beta bucks and alpha fucks
      it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
      da assetts from betas we plucks
      after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
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      cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
      datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 12:25 pm man

      this right here summarizes everything that’s wrong with american women: http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/pretty-wicked-moms?cmpid=ConsumerMarketing_USWeekly_MYL_PrettyWickedMoms

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  2. on June 3, 2013 at 11:00 am Orthodox

    He could use that as photo evidence to prove the marriage was never consummated.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm late late late bloomer

      no kidding, and if this guy’s a friend he should be pushing him to push for annulment immediately. she’s not going to warm up to him as he starts getting ‘needy’ and begging.

      however, if his buddy can’t make this agony stop– where is this picture taken? i wouldn’t mind going and getting in position for her imminent cheating.

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  3. on June 3, 2013 at 11:03 am Jeff

    How much do you want to bet the shitty bitch-bride naggednaggednaggednagged to have have her dumbass sister do the ceremony?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:06 am Inane Rambler

      This conclusion is far to clear for anyone to bet against.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:19 am Patriarch

      Negative. I would bet Nicoles left nut that the bride told him how it was going to be and it happened. It is “her day” after all…. vomit.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm Nicole

        You would have to bet my imaginary ones since you haven’t seen your own in so long.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:40 pm Patriarch

        Get back in the barn, nobody rang the slop triangle.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 9:16 pm Nicole

        Yeah well nobody waved a rainbow flag either. Didn’t stop you from begging for a catfight.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 9:20 pm Patriarch

        Catfight my ass.
        If you come after me I’m gonna tranq you and tag your ear. Can’t have you running around free breeding with the indigenous buffalo. They’re protected you know.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:08 am Nicole

        Yeah, catfight.

        …and you’re winning, by the way. You’ve made multiple references to my weight, yours being unknown, and managed to still consider yourself sane.

        Only a true female could have such a high sense of entitlement as to think that the laws of Nature bend to her whims.

        You must be better than me because I am fatter. You must be smarter than me and make more money because I’m partly African. The psychological acrobatics that enable you to engage in such antics and still think yourself worthy to presume superiority to anyone are the envy of all womankind.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:52 am Lily

      Any man who allows his soon-to-be sister-in-law to preside over his marriage ceremony, is lower than a beta. I don’t care how much his bitch nagged.

      And, a woman nags usually because she has no trust in her man and feels she needs to control the outcome of things. A man in change gives off vibes he has everything under control and she has nothing to worry about, except look hot for him. Anyway, if a woman nags over trivial stuff, it’s time to dump.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:34 pm Matthew King

        Yes. The manbearpig presiding over the ceremony is something to discuss. (If Mr. Eliot will kindly allow the reference.)

        And groom needs some grooming. For real, can’t you get a hair cut for your wedding day? Maybe a shave too?

        Hang on … maybe he’s … secret alpha!?!? And he was all like, fuck dat noize, bridezilla bitch, I ain’t trimming my shit for nobody or nothin.

        A picture’s worth a thousand comment posts.

        [CH: Hair style is irrelevant to bigger picture. When your wife rejects your wedding ceremony kiss — the biggest kiss on the biggest stage featuring kisses — you are a beta.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:39 pm Maya

        CH, I wouldn’t reject your kiss. Just telling.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:58 am Maya

        I MISS talking to you Hearts ❤ I hope you like me?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:58 am Maya

        What if your reader enjoys talking to you so much that he or she wants to become your friend, what can he do? I understand that you probably don’t have much time and that you don’t want to put up with boring people but do you ever make an exception? I know that you won’t answer me, but I’d really be happy if you would. But I understand that you don’t have time to answer on every comment.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm Zombie Shane

        > Heartiste: “Unitardian”.

        Thank you.

        Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

        Just reading that one single word made my day.

        And thanks again.

        “Unitardian”.

        Somebody needs to add that word over at Urban Dictionary:

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=unitardian

        It’s not defined yet.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… the Unitarians treat the Bible much like the night table drawers in hotels… sure, they’ll hold ’em for you… but don’t expect them to read.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:27 pm Anonymous

        Why would someone want to read a bunch of fables about an angry Bronze Age desert god?

        By the by, a Unitarian Church while easy to make fun of, is probably the best networking place a left-leaning young professional could hope for. They’re gathering places for a region’s wealthy (gentile) liberals.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:02 pm Greg Eliot

        You again? You look familiar, boy… are you the one who filled my swimming pool with beebees?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:21 pm Zombie Shane

        > “an angry Bronze Age desert god”

        That’s actually a pretty good description of the Old Testament.

        But the New Testament is radically different.

        For instance, the Sermon on the Mount is essentially a line-by-line refutation of just about everything that Father Moses ever said.

        Within the greater New Testament, you really ought to read at least the Gospels.

        They’re quite fascinating.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:27 pm el sid

        because an angry bronze age desert god is superior to man as god cuz you know man is man not god.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:39 pm Anonymous

        I’ve read the NT. I certainly like it more than the OT. It’s great up until Paul. Paul has a few beautiful and poetic lines but overall needs to stop writing everyone angry letters and get laid.

        Christianity is of course Judaism with a bunch of pagan ideas(hell, gods having kids) grafted on, but with the exception of Mormonism, Catholicism, et al has been a positive force in western civilization.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 11:09 pm Anonymous

        “> “an angry Bronze Age desert god”
        That’s actually a pretty good description of the Old Testament.
        But the New Testament is radically different.
        For instance, the Sermon on the Mount is essentially a line-by-line refutation of just about everything that Father Moses ever said.”

        And this is precisely why Christianity is a false religion. Once God spoke (2000 years before the NT was written), his very utterances, his words and testaments, cannot be refuted. Once you can undue or disprove God’s law, he’s no longer God. You can’t undo God at will, because it serves some selfish purpose of the leaders of a new religion. There is only one creator, and he doesn’t have kids, or a need for a middleman. He is the King of the Universe. Therefore, you are one of those delusional idiots who thinks the NT or Christianity itself can exist without the OT, or Juism laying the foundations for your idol-worshiping European ancestors. Absent Juism, you’d still be worshiping Zeus or Jupiter, or whatever. So el sid is right; the way the OT depicts God is superior to the NT, which says a certain man is God. Man is man, not God. In addition, Anonymous is right too – Christianity is Juism with a bunch of pagan ideas sprinkled in from the Greek, Roman, and the Germanic tribes traditions; an effort to make Juism pagan-friendly so those pagans would accept Christianity.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 11:09 am Smiletown

        Catholicism may be the last alpha Christian denomination left. Their answer to anyone who disagrees with them: “tough, get over it, pussy.”

        The Episcopalians started ordaining women decades ago and now their presiding bishop for America is a female.

        Catholics aren’t afraid to be politically incorrect and make others feel offended.

        Islam is still the ultimate alpha religion though. Catholics will just give you a hard brush-off if you disagree with them. The penalties for dissent are much harsher in Islam.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:48 pm Greg Eliot

        Yes. The manbearpig presiding over the ceremony is something to discuss. (If Mr. Eliot will kindly allow the reference.)

        Went over my head. Me no follow.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:35 pm Matthew King

        South Park reference

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:38 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, no wonder I missed it… that show is anathema to me.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:35 pm Lily

        I have to agree he looks awful. What’s with the outdated suit? And why is he so fat being supposedly so young? He shouldn’t have low-T issues at his age. Maybe he has low sex drive too?

        “[When your wife rejects your wedding ceremony kiss — the biggest kiss on the biggest stage featuring kisses — you are a beta.]”

        She doesn’t hold him in high esteem, is why. It’s just a business contract for her. All marriages are a business contract to some extent – a deal between two people, even if unspoken and just something implied. But when they are also deeply in love they can overlook many things against each other, and there is much compassion and forgiveness, which are very necessary if two people can live together as one. Here it looks like he’s already getting on her nerves.

        Granted, it’s just one frame in time and we’re building a whole storyline behind it, but even if we’re all wrong about these two, it’s irrelevant. We can only grade things based on what these pics suggest.

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 6:50 am Flavia

        Agreed that he looks like a manboob. I am confused as to how he nabbed her in the first place. I’m assuming this is a classic case of alpha fucks, beta bucks…..even though she is a bitch and a user, I still feel kind of bad for her that she has to fuck this guy. He looks so….soft.

        I assume she’ll be nailing her personal trainer soon enough.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm PetiteOlive

        Nah, beta AF!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:48 pm PetiteOlive

        True say!

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:46 am Subway Masturbator

        Yeah, blame the man if he takes charge, blame him if he doesn’t.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm Darius Jackson

      Insane to let the fat bitch do the ceremony.(E-Cunts.com!) Its like theyre just playing marriage?? It wont be playtime when this bitch-cunts lawyer–wonder if she has a sister who is a divorce lawyer-cunt??–gets through with this poor beta shnook.

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  4. on June 3, 2013 at 11:04 am Rick Derris

    Holy shi’ite I pity that poor b@stard 😦 He’s in deep trouble. Hopefully he got a pre-nup before getting involved with this bitch.

    I hate to say this, but the best man has that “don’t take this the wrong way, but I used to f*ck her” look about him. I wouldn’t be shocked if he nailed her before the proposal (or before the ceremony). Hopefully the two guys can stay friends. Bros before hoes.

    The maid of honor looks more into the groom than the bride does. Maybe they hooked up in the coatroom during the reception.

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  5. on June 3, 2013 at 11:04 am Greg Eliot

    (Speaking of, you can trace the accelerating decline of America to the point in cultural history when the bachelorette party surpassed the bachelor party in significance.)

    And downright licentious raunch as well.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:18 am YaReally

      It’s bachelorette party season at the bars right now and I love it. Every night there are 1-5 bachelorette parties in one bar lol

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:35 am Greg Eliot

        The old expression “fat rat in a cheese factory” comes to mind. 😉

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:44 am YaReally

        I joke about it but in reality swiping a girl in a bachelorette party at the bar off into the night for a same night lay is a lot harder than the stereotype would have people believe it theoretically is.

        Banging the bachelorette party girls at the actual wedding? Easy. But at the bar they are determined to all go home together in their party limo and their ASD in general is thru the roof because they’re with an entire group of non-close friends who will judge them for behavior that they might’ve gotten away with had they been out solo or with just their non-judgemental BFF.

        That said, they are EXCELLENT social proof for picking up the rest of the girls in the bar who see you dominating an entire group of giggly glowing-penis-necklace horny girls. You just have to avoid the “you should buy her a shot!!” and “suck for a buck candy necklace” traps lol

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:56 am Greg Eliot

        ” glowing-penis-necklace ”

        “suck for a buck candy necklace”

        I just wasn’t made for these times… sigh.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm Canadian Friend

        ” glowing-penis-necklace ”

        “suck for a buck candy necklace”

        On one hand it is sad to see women debase themselves that way

        but on the other hand,

        Women nowadays chose to behave like whores, it is not imposed on them by the “patriarchy”, it is the women’s choice.

        and it is the result of decades of feminism

        Nice work feminists!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Women nowadays chose to behave like whores, it is not imposed on them by the “patriarchy”, it is the women’s choice.”

        Unless you adopt the point of view that for cunts like this, the Frankfurt School is PRECISELY their patriarchy.

        Because it was the Frankfurt School which invented feminism, the Frankfurt School which shoved it down their throats, and the Frankfurt School which benefits most from the resulting civilizational chaos.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:59 pm Darius Jackson

        I ALWAYS check the twitters on CH;he’s got a good one today,a book by some fancy pants journalist blowing the lid off womens sexuality! (HINT: They want it…they want it real bad!) CH says its “good news” for PUA’s. Whenever I hear something is “good news” for PUA’s,I get a little depressed. PUA’s are doing fine;its “civilization” as CH notes,that seems to be suffering.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:17 pm Lily

        “Because it was the Frankfurt School which invented feminism, the Frankfurt School which shoved it down their throats, and the Frankfurt School which benefits most from the resulting civilizational chaos.”

        I always knew you were a frankfurter brain! Thanks for the confirmation.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:40 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… them Frankfurters were Hebrew National. lozozozlzlzozozlzlzozozlzlzlzozozlzl

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm itsme

        Women nowadays chose to behave like whores, it is not imposed on them by the “patriarchy”, it is the women’s choice.

        the patriarchy is at fault for giving women the choice to begin with.

        the reins were loosened an inch and the bitches took a mile.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:32 pm YaReally

        @Canadian Friend

        “On one hand it is sad to see women debase themselves that way”

        They’re just having fun. But then, I’m not looking to marry them so it doesn’t really bother me lol

        @Darius Jackson

        “a book by some fancy pants journalist blowing the lid off womens sexuality! (HINT: They want it…they want it real bad!)”

        PUAs have known that for years:

        It’s nice to see the fancy-pants journalists finally coming to the same conclusions we’ve been telling people about. Of course they could’ve saved some time by simply listening to the guys going out and regularly taking down poon lol

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 9:54 pm Fearsome Pirate

        Guy’s an idiot. She doesn’t love you. If her N > 50, she’s unable to pair bond.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:25 am 3rd Millenium Men

        N > 50?!?! More like N > 1.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:13 am Lily

        “the reins were loosened an inch and the bitches took a mile.”

        Exactly right! And, equal does not mean identical or replacing men. Men and women have different roles that both should be valued equally.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:07 pm corvinus

        Speaking of bachelorette parties:

        http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/04/oregon-woman-loses-500-worth-of-sex-toys-in-car-break-in/

        lozlzozlozozozoz

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 12:44 am popups

        Are men ever unable to pair bond or is it just women?

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 6:16 am Lily

        “Heh, heh… them Frankfurters were Hebrew National.”

        “Heh, heh”..… if those White Nationals stop talking about killing them Hebrews, things would be much better around here.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm Sgt. Joe Friday

        “Banging the bachelorette party girls at the actual wedding? Easy.”

        Funerals too, BTW.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm Greg Eliot

        There’s something about coming face-to-face with finality that truly lubricates the hamster.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm PetiteOlive

        True, no one wants to be the douche that abandoned her gurlz on bachelorette night to one night stander a stranger!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm YaReally

        Yep. They *LOVE* the attention from guys all night and will flirt it up like crazy to compete for who gets the most attention etc.

        But when you’re talking flat out “is your dick inside her at the end of the night?” results, those chicks are sticking together whether they want to or not. It’s POSSIBLE, but retardedly low odds, and totally logical from a PUA concepts perspective.

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  6. on June 3, 2013 at 11:08 am embracingourfemininity

    Wow. This is strange.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:24 am Greg Eliot

      Indeed… if that truly is the moment after “You may now kiss the bride”, he should have just followed Richard Burton’s lead in Taming:

      Fast forward to 6:40

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  7. on June 3, 2013 at 11:09 am Big Mistake | Viva La Manosphere!

    […] heartiste.wordpress.com […]

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  8. on June 3, 2013 at 11:14 am Testicles

    Five bucks says she fucked the guy on the right at least once.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:18 am Phinn

      Maybe I’m just seeing things, but it looks as though the Modest Bride is looking DIRECTLY at Mr. Best Man, just at the moment that BetaSchlubby is going in for his ritualistic humiliation.

      She’s saving herself for better seed.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:28 am JironGhrad

        Clearly.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:22 am earl

      Five bucks says she’s fucked at least 30 dudes and but told her husband before they got married she wanted to save herself for marriage.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm Greatest Beta

        No way a virgin sell. More like 4 to 6 past sexual partners.

        You know, so many women I’ve met fall in that number…4 to 7 LOL

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:31 am corvinus

      Thread winner.

      The mere fact that women marry beta losers so readily and cheat on them just shows that marriage doesn’t mean jackshit to the women either.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:53 pm Libertardian

        Marriage is for men who don’t think the State is raping them hard enough yet.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:43 am Greg Eliot

      10 bucks says all of the bridesmaids, at one point or another, got more tongue from the bride than the groom did.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:18 pm Zombie Shane

        > “10 bucks says all of the bridesmaids, at one point or another, got more tongue from the bride than the groom did.”

        You know, I wouldn’t take that bet.

        Because I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right.

        A few years ago, I went to a party at a kinda wild-n-crazy guy’s apartment, and this trio of “wife-swapping” MARRIED couples showed up, only the dudes didn’t share their wives with each other, but instead they just sat there on the couch and watched as the wives took turns dancing together and making out with one another and feeling each other up [and then maybe once an hour or so, the wives would disappear into the back bedroom room for some more heated encounters].

        Apparently they had been doing this shit since forever [going back to like college or whatever].

        And one of the wives claimed to be the daughter of an ostensible “Evangelical Christian” minister.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:40 pm Matthew King

        No class.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm Greg Eliot

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:14 pm Matthew King

        Played for irony, of course. Thanks, Bob Fosse.

        Now encore us with a couple numbers from your other favorite of his, Cabaret.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:26 pm Greg Eliot

        The only thing I liked about Cabaret was the uniforms. lozozozlzlzlzlzozozlzlzlz

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm Greg Eliot

        For the record, Kander and Ebb… on both scores.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm Matthew King

        I only know the Cabaret film, directed by Fosse. Joel Grey’s manic, sexually ambiguous performance was the face of evil for me in my youth. He deserved a dozen academy awards for what he pulled off. Captured the visceral evil of the epicene sodomite perfectly. I haven’t revisited it in awhile, but I have little doubt the performance holds up.

        Also, there is something about 1970s film quality — Exorcist, Deliverance, The Omen, Carrie, The Shining, Amityville — that cannot be duplicated. It’s not quite the graininess or the faded colors, I can’t put my finger on it, but it is uniquely suited for horror. Maybe it’s coincidental, since that was the decade nihilism really came to the fore among the young “auteur” class.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 6:19 am Lily

        “I only know the Cabaret film, directed by Fosse. Joel Grey’s manic, sexually ambiguous performance was the face of evil for me in my youth.”

        Now, you’ve whetted my appetite.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm Fluff Meister

        That’s just letting the girls fluff each other. After some of that girl-0n-girl play, most women are ready for a stiffy.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:56 pm Zombie Shane

        > “That’s just letting the girls fluff each other.”

        No, it wasn’t like that at all.

        There was definitely this queen bee bitch – the alpha female? – and the other two kept BEGGING her to get nasty with them.

        And she kept rolling her eyes and pretending to brush them off as though she were a female PUA.

        [Also as though she had been doing it since they were teenagers.]

        Not only was it one of the most overtly evil displays of grotesque licentiousness that I’ve ever seen, but also simply one of the most bizarre.

        Like Russ Meyer meets Salvidor Dali.

        Phreaking insane.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm Zombie Shane

        After making them beg for it long enough, every once in a while the queen bee bitch would consent and french kiss one of them [deep throat action] and feel her up just a little, but then suddenly twirl around walk away nonchalantly.

        Phreaking nuts.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm Greg Eliot

        Did somebody say Russ Meyer? 😀

        I’m a big fan, and always kept well abreast of his films.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:01 am gonzaga

        There is a whole world of swinging, sex-clubbing weirdos that would probably really blow your mind What you’ve described is typical for a non-trivial subset of people. Google “LA sex clubs”

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm Zombie Shane

        > “What you’ve described is typical for a non-trivial subset of people.”

        Right, but then the question immediately becomes: Just how non-trivial?

        And a related question: How many chicks these days are doing porn, as either professionals or semi-professionals, or just amateurs?

        Do you think that among, say, Caucasian American females, aged 18-24,

        a) less than 1.0%
        b) 1% to 4.9%
        c) 5% to 9.9%
        d) 10% or greater

        have posted a nude picture of themselves online?

        Or have posted a full nude video online?

        I’m a little worried that the answer might be at least “b)”, which could amount to upwards of 1 million white chicks in that age group alone.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:59 pm Libertardian

        Now I’m conjuring a mental picture of the bride hooking up with that blonde to her left. That beats the hell out of the picture we’re actually looking at.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm Matthew King

      A thousand bucks she didn’t.

      You see spooks in every corner, in every closet, under every bed. It’s excessive to the point of monomania. Insanity.

      You guys don’t just jump the shark. You are The Fonz in perpetual midair freeze frame. “… for all eternity insatiably calling out ‘da capo,’ not only to himself, but to the whole piece and play …”

      Aren’t there plenty of real monsters to be concerned with before conjuring phantoms everywhere one looks? I understand that the photos were just a hook so that the chorus may come out as one and perform a wailing dirge about modern marriage, but come on, man.

      If you zoom the camera in, you can see cum leaking down her chin. Notice he’s bent over to his best man, who is quite salaciously RUBBING HIS HANDS, which probably means the groom is SNOWBALLING HER after a quick MMF threesome in the stall moments earlier… Wake up people! Shit’s real!

      Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:48 pm earl

        A buzzkill of imagination people.

        I bet you’d be the guy telling Edison he’s a fool for failing on the light bulb so many times.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:42 pm Greg Eliot

        No… but I did break his chops about DC and brought up the name of Tesla at every opportunity.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:24 am Matthew King

        Edison didn’t fabricate “imaginati[ve]” stories. He doggedly searched for the truth.

        Yes, I would call Edison a fool for trying to make a lightbulb by chanting hot air over yarn.

        You are correct, this is a “buzzkill.” But seriously, dude, this Belieeeve In The Powwwer of Imaginationnn circle-jerk party blows. It’s called escapism, and it’s for those who have no capacity (courage) to investigate the truth, wherever it may go.

        Matt

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  9. on June 3, 2013 at 11:17 am YaReally

    wtf??

    I love that all the women have big smiles like haha silly boy getting denied! Grrrl power!!

    Then look at the eyes of the dude in the grey suit on the right. He’s faking a smile but uncomfortably thinking “ehh wtf??” and can already tell his buddy will be spending the rest of his life no closer to getting pussy than he was when they were clueless virgin teenagers, except now he’ll have a massive penalty of extreme guilt sneaking around, or losing half his money and custody of his children and end up paying alimony/child support for kids he’s not allowed to see, if he dares go out and get himself some strange.

    Agreeing to monogamy is just giving someone else the power to force you into involuntary celibacy.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:20 am Anon E. Puss

      Yep, and what he should have done 1 millisecond after the bottom photo was snapped is shoved her on her cute little ass and declared the wedding off, if the uploader is correct that this was *the* “you may now kiss the bride” moment??!?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:26 am YaReally

      Maybe she banged the grey suit guy but I doubt it. My guess is he’s legit the guy’s friend and his exact thought is “heyyyy…that’s….weird behavior…wtf?? Gotta smile and clap cause I can’t say anything about it but shit, I think my buddy is *fucked*…” Basically the same expression that went over most of our faces when we scrolled down to the pics, if a camera had been there to capture our initial reaction.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:59 am Maldek

        Well i just did show these pictures to my wife (without her allowing to read headline/text first) and her comment after 5 seconds was:

        “oh, she is disguested with her husband”

        After she did read the text she added:
        “hm she wanted his money and maybe she didnt want to kiss him, because her boyfriend (!) is there too”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm man reader

        Everyone, read this very carefully, ‘m kay? None of this is making sense because she is his COLLEGE girlfriend. That makes it make no sense. Age 22? Early 20s? GF from college. She’s very pretty. She would have an alpha BF in college. She’d ride the carousel until age 32 or 34 and then go on match.com to find her beta. Something is off with this.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm earl

        Does that look like a man she would stay true to…even if she was his college GF?

        It is just as plausible she rode the carousel behind his back and he had no clue it was happening because his oneitis blinded him.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm Lily

        College GF? They both look in their 30s. I wonder if this is a true situation or merely an imagined scenario for discussion. “Something is off with this.”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm YaReally

        “maybe she didnt want to kiss him, because her boyfriend (!) is there too”

        I actually was going to mention this too. I don’t think it’s the guy in grey right there, but I’ve been the “secret boyfriend” who a girl has flinched with another guy out of “I don’t want him to see me kiss my lame date” instinct and it looks a lot like this. Followed by an “oh shit I made this awkward, I’d better kiss him for real and hope no one caught what was going on there” to recover.

        I think it’s funny that a girl can tell instantly what the chick is feeling with no context. It’s not “oh she’s having trouble kissing his height!”, it’s disgust.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm Lily

        “It’s not “oh she’s having trouble kissing his height!”, it’s disgust.”

        Maybe she doesn’t want him to mess up her makeup, which is also quite ridiculous since she can touch it up later. Basically, it means her makeup is more important to her than him. She is definitely not in love with him – she doesn’t look up to him, or has that admiration for him that a woman in love has for her man. Eventually, she’ll become more frustrated, controlling, and bitchy….. until they both lose that spark in their eyes.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm xxxxx

        Yes.. wondered when a woman would bring this up. Agree with that mess up make-up or hair thing. I know so many women with that attitude. They reckon they paid so much money for the “look” they might as well hang on to it for as long as possible. Personally I don’t give a shit – never believed in paying so much money for one stupid day of playing princess. A few months the track she would be moaning to her husband about him messing up their expensive sheets when he wants to do the deed.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm zmbikilr

        Exactly right. Women in love would be beaming, and look radiant because of that glow. Dudes need to recognize this look well before they marry. You see it in 1 in 20 couples or so and it’s unmistakable. It can last for a long time.

        A woman in love will marry you in Vegas and not give a shit about makeup. She will never refuse a kiss. She’ll follow you anywhere. Marriage is really an afterthought, not “her big day.”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:02 pm YaReally

        “Maybe she doesn’t want him to mess up her makeup, which is also quite ridiculous since she can touch it up later. Basically, it means her makeup is more important to her than him”

        I’m glad you wrote that second sentence, ’cause I thought you were going to use the hair/makeup as justification to let her off the hook lol

        I have a chick coming over this week who knows I like when women do themselves up. She’s going to do her makeup, get her hair done, wear one of her favorite sexy dresses/heels, mani/pedi, eyelashes, the works. She’ll probably spend 3-6 hours in total for all this stuff, and who knows how much money.

        And she knows I’m going to be ruining all of it (tho I’ll try to be careful with the outfit so she can wear it again lol). She knows she’s going to be driving home looking like Cody Lane in the blue room and that we’ll probably take pics/vids of the whole mess.

        And she’ll do it again the next time I have her over. Because she’s so attracted to me that she doesn’t give a shit about not ruining her hair/makeup. This chick wouldn’t, in a million years, snub me for a kiss. Especially not if we were at our fucking WEDDING. I have more attraction/respect/love from my casual fuckbuddies than this guy does from his WIFE.

        Dude is fucked and won’t figure it out for years. I legit feel bad for him.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:19 pm Zombie Shane

        > “She’ll probably spend 3-6 hours in total for all this stuff, and who knows how much money.

        And she knows I’m going to be ruining all of it…”

        Chick sounds like she might be a keeper.

        You oughtta put five or six buns in her oven.

        Yeah, really.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm YaReally

        @Zombie Shane

        She’s in her early 20s, cooks, has a good career, her own condo, works out 3x a week, doesn’t do drugs, doesn’t party much and txts me all night when she does party, has a positive attitude in general, and can keep up with my sense of humor…on top of the whole dressing up hot and liking fucked up sex thing.

        If it wasn’t summer with tons of beautiful women out there to meet, I might consider getting more serious with this one. But what’s better than having one of these girls? Having more than one of them. lol

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm kleyau

      Blonde has a look of disgust but tries to force a smile.

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  10. on June 3, 2013 at 11:17 am Nick

    Tragic, I want to laugh but it’s just sickening. I’ve been to three weddings of friends, one was in Hawaii on the beach presided over by a female “minister”, at another the couple took special shots together as they took their vows and at the third the ceremony took place under an arbor with crystals hanging above them.

    Learning game has definitely led me to question tenets of my Catholic upbringing, but at least the many generations of tradition and reverence for ceremony create some sense of continuity with the past and hopefully instill the married couple with the notion that this is a serious commitment. With these new age weddings I’ve left feeling that the ceremony did little to help the long-term prospects of the union. Perhaps the divorce statistics are the same for Catholics and everyone else, but I’m sure as hell not getting married by my fu@king sister!

    It interesting to realize that even Betas can still marry attractive women, but their long-term prospects for marital bliss are disastrous. We’ve all heard of brides getting cold feet at the altar (perhaps realizing how Beta their husbands actually are), so I wonder how many brides came to this realization minutes after the vows are exchanged.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm earl

      I can tell you this…because of game it cements in my mind the fact the tenets and traditions of the Catholic church are true. They are “Evil Patriarchy” 101. Read the Gospel, look at what Jesus did and said, and tell me that’s not what an alpha is. Great storyteller, gave out universal health care, nobody ever got to him, stayed in his frame, he made his enemies look foolish, and he drew great crowds.

      Now as far as some of the idiots that run it they should be up for questioning…but the faith itself is gold.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:14 pm corvinus

        Not to mention He had hordes of women blubbering over him as he was led to the Cross.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:29 pm earl

        Exactly….a question for guys to think of…How many women have you had cry over the fact you have to carry your cross and get nailed to it?

        Females today would say you are supposed to do that anyway and they don’t have to show any gratitude, concern, or emotion for it.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm Greg Eliot

        Heady stuff. Well-put.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm McLovin

        yep. it’s actually pretty cool to simply read the gospels (easy read–not long at all) and see this.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:12 pm earl

        I think more guys should read the gospels. From the PUA alphas to the lonely omegas.

        You may not agree with what Jesus has to say…but if you downright hate the guy and what he did…you hate masculinity itself.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:05 pm Anonymous

        “Read the Gospel, look at what Jesus did and said, and tell me that’s not what an alpha is. Great storyteller, gave out universal health care, nobody ever got to him, stayed in his frame, he made his enemies look foolish, and he drew great crowds.”

        You’re delusional. Jesus was no alpha. He was the first liberal/socialist in history handing out free stuff so that people would like him and follow him, just like the democratic party is doing today. It’s the oldest trick in history and has nothing to do with alphaness. You want people to follow you, give then free stuff. Jesus is the oldest liberal in history.

        Furthermore, he was nonjudgmental and accepted any bad behavior. A father who truly loves his children must punish them to straighten them out. He doesn’t hand them things freely unmerited and undeserved so they never learn their lesson. However, people don’t like to be told off. This is why he accepted whore, prostitutes, and whomever without rebuking ; so that he would build a following.

        Then he had the audacity to say that just by believing in him one can go to heaven, just like every demagogue telling people follow me and everything will be Okay. He had the nerve to circumvent God’s purpose and authority in rewarding and punishing God’s children and promising them false rewards. Then to add insult to injury, his followers said he died as the sacrificial lamb for mankind. What nonsense. No one can pay for your sins. If you sinned you have to stand in judgment in front of God, face him and give account. No one can assume that responsibility for you. It’s liberal think. They always try to pass on their personal responsibilities to the state. You fucking religious nuts need a good pounding.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm earl

        You obviously have never read the gospels. Jesus gave out stuff for free?

        Here’s a tip…before Jesus did any healing miracle with a person did he just do it or did he ask them a question first. Or did the person prove their worth to Him?

        It seems many alphas have that same mindset…prove yourself to me.

        He tested their faith. A liberal would give you something because you have a different skin color, a vagina, or have been oppressed by the man.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm Greg Eliot

        The fulcrum of the lever that balances Good and Evil is based upon the simple question: What think ye of Christ?

        Never known it to fail.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:50 pm earl

        I can’t remember the verse but I remember that’s the only question you need to test a spirit to know where they are coming from.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm Greg Eliot

        1 John 4:2

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:48 pm Matthew King

        You may be thinking about Luke 8?.

        The literal quote comes from Matt 22:42.

        But I am partial to Luke 9:18-20, a big one for the Petrine tradition.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:58 pm Greg Eliot

        I was giving earl the text for the “test the spirit” verse he mentioned.

        That was actually the one I was thinking of when I made the fulcrum remark, but you’re obviously correct about the first four gospels covering the “What think ye” scripture.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm Matthew King

        You’re delusional. Jesus was no alpha. He was the first liberal/socialist…

        Epic eye roll. You are reading from the Gospel According to Marx. Everything about Jesus Christ has been feminized for this day and age, including your idiot understanding of him. Now why do you think that would be?

        He is the Alpha and the Omega. the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Therefore you can pick and choose any part of him in isolation and say he was the “first” this and the “first” that. The lack of catechesis is the doom of our age.

        That, and no class.

        Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm Greg Eliot

        And might I add:

        “You fairy!”

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:47 pm the fauvist

        Curiously enough, a theoretical “Gospel of Marx” would be about as historically reliable as any other book in the New Testament.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:30 pm cynthia

        Umm… I’m pretty sure Jesus accepted sinners on the basis that they stopped sinning. There are stories in the New Testament about people who come to him looking for salvation and being unable to meet the conditions (because, there are, of course, conditions).

        Christian sects do disagree on the question of acts/faith/grace when it comes to salvation, but the way I’ve always heard it described (as a Catholic) is that prior to Jesus, there was no route to God’s forgiveness; the rules simply didn’t include that clause. Belief in Jesus offers the path to salvation, but people are still responsible for their actions, and answerable for those actions to God, personally. God’s forgiveness is there for the asking, but even that takes more than just believing in Jesus – one has to ask and work for it.

        And socialism? Giving out free stuff? What, a bread-and-fish dinner after a speech he gave? Wine at that one wedding dinner? Those were courtesies, not bribes. Jesus wasn’t about establishing some kind of earthly polity, and he wasn’t about passing personal responsibility on to Big Daddy Sky Fairy. But if you’re talking about classical liberalism, where a man has authority and control over his own life, and the right to self-determination, then yeah, that’s a purely Christian concept.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 10:44 pm Dan Fletcher

        Not religious myself but I can say you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm Lily

      “new age weddings”

      That’s a perfect term for them, especially when you have women minsters officiating. They create a foreboding feeling of things to come. It’s like the couple isn’t married yet and already feminists are part of the vows, making sure the husband remembers the female presiding making him swear all kinds of nonsense.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm Tim

      Why would it lead you to question Catholicism? Instead it should make you realize why Catholicism and Christianity in general had the principles it did, especially about the fallen nature of man (and women).

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 2:55 am oy

      just throwing it out there: it’s not the religion that impacts divorce rates, it’s the role it plays in family life. people that attend weekly services together are way less likely to get divorced than the nominally religious.

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  11. on June 3, 2013 at 11:17 am greyghost

    Tell the guy to save his friend and go over there and fuck his wife and get caught or brag about it to him. Get that guy out of there before she gets knocked up. Or send the wedding photo with this article to every member of both families and to all of her friend and the local media with some facebook friends to blow this shit open. He has got nothing to lose.

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  12. on June 3, 2013 at 11:20 am Toby

    One has to wonder if the guy was able to bang her before marriage.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm AlmostAnonymous

      One has to wonder if the guy was able to bang her after the marriage.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm Greg Eliot

        Touche’!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:22 pm Toby

        No. Before. It could be that she never ever let her fucked her back then because she is repulsed enough not to be kissed by him in public.

        Wondering if they had sex after the marriage after seeing that picture is just being naive.

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  13. on June 3, 2013 at 11:21 am earl

    I’ve seen pictures of gruesome car and motorcycle accidents, the effects of terrible diseases, warfare, anything you can think of that would provoke the worst emotions you can think of. Although it never made me gag.

    You have found the first pictures that literally made my stomach dance.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm Cragsleeper

      Well put. These get more reaction out of me than anything on rotten.com

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  14. on June 3, 2013 at 11:23 am Joe Blow

    This does raise one of the tougher questions of manhood: how do you tell a friend he’s a delusional moron and he’s married / engaged to a complete monster?

    I tried with one buddy shortly before he got married, it ended the friendship. Their marriage ended months after the wedding, as she played frisbee golf with the fine china, using him as the ‘goal.’ Since then I keep my mouth shut and let my friends crash on the rocks. It’s their lives. Never have found a solution to this quandary…

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:26 am Jeff

      Don’t go after these topics directly. Ask unassuming leading questions to get him to feel like he’s realizing it himself. Talk about details within other relationships that are working well to get him to self-realize those things aren’t part of his own relationship.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:29 am YaReally

      Warn them and cross your fingers, but expect to watch them crash & burn, and be there to help them pick up the pieces after it all blows up.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm corvinus

      Most men have to learn things the hard way.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm ar10308

      I did the same. And this was before I became Red Pilled. I haven’t talked to him since.

      She hated my guts and basically told him a bunch of lies about me trying to get with her. He actually just got married this weekend, poor guy. As I was looking at the wedding photos, I could tell that she had already gained weight since I’d seen her a year or two ago.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:20 pm ar10308

        I should add, it also ended the friendship.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:00 pm Matthew King

      how do you tell a friend he’s a delusional moron and he’s married / engaged to a complete monster?

      You truly don’t have to say much. Men already know it in their bones. They’re looking for a vehicle to express it. You can be that vehicle if you simply stop nodding along with the culture and start challenging him to speak plainly about what he sees in front of his face.

      It’s the women who get nasty because their identity is constructed around the lie. The men, on the other hand, have been crushed by the lie. No deliverance is achieved without pain. No cross, no crown. But people like your friend are waiting for men like us to give them the “okay.” That is chiefly accomplished by being the friend in their lives they can count on to call bullshit on every feminist prerogative, big and small, when all others stay silent. Most don’t want to be the first one into unexplored territory, lighting the way for others.

      “She’s fucking fat,” is a good place to start. It’s an obvious one, bitches can unite with you under their intrasexual snarkiness, and the politics (speaking truth to power) are hidden in the statement. But once they get used to your plain speaking, they will be better prepared to eventually accept the doozy: Men are strong, women are weak, let’s all act accordingly.

      Matt

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 4:47 pm Pope Frankie

      I did the same thing. Guy I was playing music with said his fiance was screaming at him like irrational lunatic for 3 months straight. I asked him why he was even considering getting married. He agreed, said he needed to get a new piece of ass. Next week he started talking about the photo sessions before the wedding and I asked him if he was serious. He got bent about it, acted like we never had the conversation before. I told him straight up, its only going to get worse. Later I saw the wedding pics on facebook, never spoke to him again, but it wasn’t much of a loss. Fact is the guy was a tool and I wish I had never warned him. Only warn people you really care about.

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  15. on June 3, 2013 at 11:26 am Lily

    “(Speaking of, you can trace the accelerating decline of America to the point in cultural history when the bachelorette party surpassed the bachelor party in significance.)”

    Very true. In fact, I’m very much against women having bachelorette parties. It’s disrespectful and lacking modesty. It’s another instance of women trying to act like or surpass men in the sex department. All it does is scream slut. If she must have a party, why can’t a woman celebrate her impending nuptials in a classy gathering, as opposed to the boisterous classless shit that goes on at bachelorette parties?

    Off topic. I can’t believe it’s June already. Almost half the year is behind us. Time is flying. Speaking of June, it’s the month of weddings. You might hear many similar shocking stories from friends and acquaintances. Stay tuned.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm Matthew King

      Who is the lucky guy, Lily baby? I am desolated.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:08 am Lily

        “I am desolated”

        You have yourself to blame. Without your supervision it was only a matter of time before someone else pounced on me 🙂

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:08 pm Matthew King

        Mazel tov!

        Let me know when your hypergamy egg-timer goes off and you need an alignment.

        And whatever you do, do NOT turn your head at the altar (or whatever it is the Juse use) when it comes to the kiss. You will NEVER hear the end of it from this crowd. EYES FORWARD, LOCK THEM IN.

        Remember, e-mailing is not cheating! Drop me a line so I can give you my full Catholic blessings.

        Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:40 pm YaReally

        What a playa!! Remember to use Boyfriend Destroyers in your E-Mails!! (taking notes on how a real pimp games his e-harem)

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:38 pm Matthew King

        Holy shit, dude. Take an adderall. Not everything is a PUA lesson, monomaniac.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 6:13 am Lily

        lol, what’s with all the Jewish motifs?
        .
        “Remember, e-mailing is not cheating!”
        I’m worried about cheating? Whatever gave you that idea? I can’t wait to start cheating with you.
        .
        “EYES FORWARD, LOCK THEM IN.”
        Always! The eyes have it 😉
        .
        Catholic blessings? I can’t wait. Is there anything better than Catholic blessings on this God’s green earth?

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  16. on June 3, 2013 at 11:30 am Puzzle Pirate (@PuzzlePirate)

    They actually did kiss here: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pLSoahqTt40/UYqyT_rGQ0I/AAAAAAAAEhA/atHh8prQsKQ/s1600/132.jpg

    Fat-ass sister is right: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SBrxxhI5ru0/UYqyS42_PHI/AAAAAAAAEg4/F4fIRT3A0lQ/s1600/127.jpg

    Another kiss: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Wy0RSSk2Ii0/UYqyXJvrzyI/AAAAAAAAEhI/keDYg5njMvE/s1600/206.jpg

    You can see a bunch of wedding photos here: http://www.kgcphoto.blogspot.com/2013/05/heidel-house-wedding-photography-of.html

    [CH: She turned her cheek to the most important kiss of her life. That means something. I don’t think anyone is claiming they never kissed ever at all at any other time.]

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Greg Eliot

      Whew… that restored my faith in humanity a little.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm driveallnight

        WHAT?

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm Greg Eliot

        There’s at least a semblance of love in her eyes in those other pics… jes’ sayin’.

        Still doesn’t excuse the disrespect in the two thread photos, though.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:28 pm yeahokcool

        i still read grimace on her face and body-language. he’s leaned in way too far and she’s pulling back far too much.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm YaReally

      As usual Matt’s vast imaginary experience socializing as a jetset playboy with a harem of 10s trumps everyone else’s combined real-world experience lol

      Tyson isn’t looking at the guy’s track record or how he did in his last fight or how he walks talks or acts leading up to the fight…all he’s looking for is that one instant micro-expression where the guy’s facade slips and his id reveals itself and tells him everything about him regardless of how much he tries to cover it up.

      Girls read guys like this all the time…it’s why you can lose a 9 or 10 instantly with the most minor of flinches. They’re attuned to noticing that stuff and it doesn’t matter how you try to recover after they’ve seen your incongruence, you were done the split second you doubted yourself and looked down.

      Can the guy she’s marrying tell? Probably not. Maybe he’ll be happy, who knows, but I think he’ll be Googling MMSL after he goes sexless for a year or two down the road.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm YaReally

        whoops that was meant to be a combo reply to Matt’s rant and Pirate’s pics which Matt will try to use to prove he’s right, but it came off confusing. My bad.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm Maldek

        The pictures on the linked-site proof nothing. They certainly had a professional take these pictures and these guys are good in their job.
        Well maybe one thing, the hubby looks like beta-dude and the bride is way past her prime. Time for her to settle down I guess.

        The only REAL fotos are the ones seen on top of this page. Her reaction (no kiss) is how her inner self feels. The rest is show.

        Mike Tyson was right and fighters have won since centuries, following the teachings of Myamoto Musashi and his “Book of five rings”.

        No way this bride is in love with her husband or even respects him.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:24 am Pole

        ‘If you have made your opponent flich, you have already won’ Five Rings should be a part of GBFM’s list.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:01 pm Matthew King

        Isn’t it funny how everything I say is yet more evidence about how cool you are? WEIRD.

        I’d write a lengthier reply but my Lear is taxiing and Bianca and Svetlana get into the most petty little cat fights when I’m not there to ply them with champagne and dick.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:46 pm YaReally

        No. Funny is how, as usual, you skip addressing my pointing out the very blatantly obvious notion that you’re wrong, by hiding behind “snark”. Are you a writer for Jezebel now? “Facts will change if I just be snarky enough lolol what about teh menz!! No one pay attention to all the things I said that data and stats disprove!! Because patriarchy!!”

        How about addressing her shitty smile-kiss VS the staged ones? I mean, that’s your Occam “slice” after all. Can’t do it, huh? Nah, I guess you’d have to interact with people in real life more to be able to read body-language etc.

        It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong. Maybe it’ll be healthy for you and help get rid of some of your bitterness in the long-run?

        Tell Bianca and Svetlana I said hi. lol

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:14 am Matthew King

        For honest, brother, I couldn’t decipher what you were trying to say with that Tyson video. Eye contact is good?

        I know, it’s the height of heresy to mention that we cannot read a world into a pair of snapshots. Which furnishes the latest reason for you to bang your Occupy drum about how uncool I am.

        But there must be something to what I say, since it gets under your skin so consistently. Let’s not touch that controversy, though. We can’t even discuss the dishonesty of a freeze frame without you and the usual crowd losing its shit over the same pet issues. It’s a crushing bore.

        Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:04 am YaReally

        “For honest, brother, I couldn’t decipher what you were trying to say with that Tyson video”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microexpression

        “But there must be something to what I say, since it gets under your skin so consistently.”

        Yes, what you say is wrong and retarded and I worry that new guys who don’t have enough field experience to know you’re wrong and retarded, will listen to you because you write with delusional certainty. But anyone who goes out regularly can tell you base all your ideas off a keyboard jockey view of the world in your imagination.

        It’s very simple: If you post shit that jives with the experiences of hundreds of thousands of other men who regularly go out and practice game, I will slap you on the ass and say “Good job, Matt! I agree!” If you contradict the shit that we’ve figured out and see/experience on a regular basis because we’re in the field studying this constantly, then I will call you out on being full of shit.

        I consider calling you out on your ridiculous shit to be a community service. 🙂

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:21 am anonymous

        lol, has this site ever hosted a more delusional commenter than yareally?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:04 am Tyrone

        Ya really knows women pretty well. He’s also a good talker and is quick on his feet psychologically. For these reasons, I’m inclined to think of him as the real deal.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm Matthew King

        Not delusional. Just a bit fanatical and zealous for his religion. He is unable to distinguish between contrarians and heretics. The zeal for his brah Owen’s house consumes him.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:41 pm YaReally

        @Matt
        Nothing addressing microexpressions, hey Matt? It’s cool man, keep up the insults, no one will notice you don’t know what you’re talking about. 🙂

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:30 pm Matthew King

        I address the topics I am inclined to address, not your irrelevant hobbyhorses. Draw whatever conclusion you wish.

        Microexpressions are not related to the general subject and are of dubious analytical worth. They’re like palm reading and astrology, trueish sounding mumbo jumbo used to fascinate a dipshit coed.

        Which is the chick crack you peddle, I understand. But stop getting high on your own supply. That’s why your theories eventually unravel.

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 12:11 am Anonymous

        “Just a bit fanatical and zealous for his religion.”

        Speaking of fanaticism and zealotry, it takes one to know one, right Matt.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm n/a

        I keep my eyes on him I keep my eyes on him I keep my eyes on him

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:20 am josh

        Hey YaReally. Not disagreeing with what you are saying, but was also thinking that whenever I see the Tyson clip, it reminds me of this clip of the Thompson/Emelianenko fight which seems to be the exact opposite. One guy is going with the mad dog stare and the other just looks sleepy, looking around, wiping his nose, and then kicks mister alpha body language’s ass:

        Do you think that this is another dynamic, or is it just the next level of alpha body language? Intuitively, I have always thought that a truly confident guy could avoid the stare/look down/have closed body language, whatever, and it wouldn’t matter if he didn’t give a shit.

        I am wondering if this would apply to women too? Can they sense if a guy is so confident his body language doesn’t matter, or are they just naturally too shallow to notice anything but surface posturing?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:18 pm YaReally

        “I have always thought that a truly confident guy could avoid the stare/look down/have closed body language, whatever, and it wouldn’t matter if he didn’t give a shit.”

        This. The guy just doesn’t care. Why he doesn’t care could be a number of things: could be part of his “character” to stand out for marketing purposes, could be a complete bullshit front that he puts on to try to weird out his opponent while he’s actually shitting bricks inside, could be that he legitimately doesn’t think his opponent is a threat skills-wise, could be that he’s simply a guy who disconnects from all the pre-game stuff and only focuses on the actual fight itself, could be he’s found that he gasses out sooner in the fight or fights sloppier if he gets worked up into a rage at the start, etc.

        One thing to take away from this is that he holds his own frame of “don’t react to this guy, don’t get into an angry staredown, don’t play this guy’s game”. When you’re out, you might have friends who are the high-energy life of the party when you’re naturally a pretty chill guy…or you might be a high-energy guy and be hanging with a low-key guy…in both situations you may find yourself start to fall into his frame and change your energy based on how the other guy is, because your frame is weak. But down the road when your frame is solid and you really know yourself and express yourself as-is, you’ll find that you can keep your natural behavior around these guys.

        “I am wondering if this would apply to women too? Can they sense if a guy is so confident his body language doesn’t matter, or are they just naturally too shallow to notice anything but surface posturing?”

        Girls aren’t really shallow that way…a lot of them can see subtleties in body language, voice tonality, eye contact, etc. that even a guy who goes out every night for 10 years misses. They’re forced by life to learn how to spot posturing because the second they sprout tits (even before that) they have men trying to get something from them or use them or lie to them to get what they want etc. So they have to learn to do things like shit-test and spot incongruency, out of survival.

        There are girls out there who literally have a rule that when a guy approaches them they won’t say anything for the first minute, and just stare at him in the eyes, to see what he’ll do.

        Are they all super-genius mind-readers? No, of course not. But compared to guys who are trained in the opposite way, to take all women as special wonderful flowers and never ever suspect them of anything or look past their surface (“I want a nice guy!!” she says, to the guy who’s been in her friend zone for 10 years), ya, they’re all super geniuses.

        Part of why PUA advocates going out as often as possible and racking up field experience is because we’re compacting the social experience a girl has forced upon her simply by having tits, into as short a time as possible, so we can develop the same skillset. I would put my ability to read people way above like 95% of girls…but I have a shitload of field experience and naturally found the topic of reading people fascinating as a hobby so I took to it quickly.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:10 pm Erik Roar

        Thompson looked to be psyching himself up for the fight, like it was for his benefit more than trying to intimdate Emelianenko.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm embracingourfemininity

      They look so sweet kissing. Bless them. The bride also looks beautiful

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm itsme

        do you have an iphone app set to do that autoreply or did you have to actually type it out?

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm embracingourfemininity

        I typed it I don’t have an iphone

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm Matthew King

        Your innocence is so touching. No worries, it will be stripped from you after a few weeks of reading, ma chérie.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm driveallnight

        Awesome.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:17 pm corvinus

        Women should be like you. Unfortunately, 99% are the exact opposite.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:33 pm Heywood Jablome

        Spin, hamster. Spin.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm McLovin

      note the pic of the father or father-in-law dancing with the bride. as Jewish as it gets

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:18 pm Harvey P. Levinstein, Esq.

        correct, and everyone else’s failure to get onto this aspect of the topic is an epic failure

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm Greg Eliot

        I see what you did there… most droll.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:22 pm Lara

        Why don’t you explain it to us.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:43 pm Inane Rambler

        Painfully Jewish.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm Scray

      She’s smiling against his OPEN lips in that first pic — they ain’t kissing. HE’S kissing. It’s just a closer proximity version of the above photos. The other kissing pic seems to be the result of photographer direction.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:32 pm YaReally

        “She’s smiling against his OPEN lips in that first pic — they ain’t kissing. HE’S kissing.”

        Yep. Noticed this too and it’s an important tell.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:37 pm McLovin

        correct

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:11 pm haunted trilobite

        Scray and YaReally interacting reminds me of Bobby Ray Claggett and Wilton Cooper

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Very astute observation, Scray.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm earl

        Saw that too.

        It’s amazing what you can see when you aren’t so blinded.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm Anonymous

      scray’s right, she’s not reciprocating in that first pic.

      what was even more obvious to me though is her fat fucking arms. she’s a carb load away from being a land whale.

      anyone want to guess what this couple will look like in a few years’ time?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:18 pm jerk

      Looks to me like the dude went for a long, dramatic Al Gore style public kiss and she finally had enough, got embarrassed and pulled away. Not nearly as bad as her pulling away from the beginning, but it was beta on his part and she reacted reflexively to his beta move. Now, if she loved him, she would have surrendered to it.

      Or perhaps he thought he was being a clown by turning the kiss into a joke and she stopped it. He’s bent over fairly far in the final frame. But even if he was intentionally goofing the result shows she takes him for a goofball, not a man whose cocky behavior makes her swoon.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:22 pm jerk

        I’ll retract. Scray is right. There is no evidence she ever reciprocated.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:17 pm R

      What I noticed at the web site was the difference between how she looks at her dad vs. how she looks at her husband.

      I didn’t see a single picture where she’s looking in hubby’s eyes, but she looks up to her dad, right into his eyes. You can see the actual respect she feels for dad, as opposed to whatever she feels for hubby. She looks at his chest, at his chin, and all around, but never into his eyes.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 6:33 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      The bride has fat arms.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 8:44 pm Tim

      Hmmmm, can anybody tell her digit ratio? In one pic where she is sitting by the table and is resting her right hand against her forehead, it seems her digit ratio is very masculine. Or am I wrong?

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  17. on June 3, 2013 at 11:30 am Canadian Friend

    Short women who marry very tall men tend to be shallow, cold and manipulative,

    they don’t marry the guy for love but for what they can get out of him such as an expensive diamond ring, an expensive wedding all the way to a lucrative divorce.

    No I don’t have scientific evidence to back this up, it is just an observation from an old 53 year old guy who has seen a lot stuff happen…

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm corvinus

      Short women who marry very tall men tend to be shallow, cold and manipulative,

      They’d have to be, if they’re short and only consider men over six feet.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 10:49 pm Col Nicholson

      Interesting. I have a different take on this, not necessarily contradicting yours. Tall, dorky betas are susceptible to being snagged by short chicks
      because it gives them the illusion of being dominant or having more control
      than they actually have, if any.

      In the examples I’m thinking of the girl is, as you say, manipulative -unbelievably so. I think these guys experience the most extreme flipping of script after the wedding. Out comes the 5’3″ D. I.

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  18. on June 3, 2013 at 11:31 am Adam

    You may now kiss the alimony.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      She won’t refuse *that.*

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  19. on June 3, 2013 at 11:35 am corvinus

    Here’s the biggest mystery to me.

    Unlike other hogzilla brides that CH has posted here, this bride is actually quite attractive. She should have been able to catch the eyes of an alpha, or at the very least, a greater beta that she could make out with. Her marrying a guy she won’t even kiss makes no sense whatsoever.

    WHY?!?!?!?!

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:45 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      He’s got them beta bux, and she’s already got the divorce rape timeline all planned out. Ka-ching!

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:55 am Matthew King

      It’s an overinterpretation of a photo, translated into CH terms. That’s why.

      This is what happens to a community of self-reinforcing theorists. Incestuous creativity and circular reasoning: He’s a beta because look at him. She’s a bridezilla whore because look at her. Everything else is fill-in-the-blank.

      Yes “marrying a guy she won’t even kiss makes no sense whatsoever.” You nailed it. Now, which is the more likely scenario, that she actually refuses to kiss him or be wifely to him in any way, or we’re reading our hobbyhorse theory into two frames of a mere snapshot of two people’s lives?

      Matt

      [CH: Is there never a hint of danger in a fleeting moment?]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:00 pm Greg Eliot

        I think I’m going to believe my own lying eyes on this one. 🙂

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm Matthew King (Jesus is Lord, Hail Jeebus)

        You should have believed your Bible. Corinthians 14:7 Paragraph 72. “And she who shall kisseth her husband before the village is a slut unto the Lord, and shall be stoned to death and her innards shall be fed to vultures. Such is the love of the one true King, Lord Jesus, master of the Sith and bringer of darkness and pain. Hail Jesus.” Her godly motivations and commitment to marriage and submission to The Lord God Unto The Highest are clear.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:42 pm Greg Eliot

        Get thee behind me, Sock Puppy!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm earl

        Haven’t you ever heard the phrase:

        “A picture is worth a thousand words.”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm Canadian Friend

        The kiss pics are set up,

        while the pic where she turns away reveals a spontaneous reaction captured by a photograph

        the former mean nothing, the latter tell a thousand words

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm Greg Eliot

        A fair point.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm Matthew King

        Or, the staged photo was over, and a cigar is just a cigar.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm earl

        Even if it is a set up…somebody had to have that thought in mind to set up a photo like that.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm Canadian Friend

        Earl

        I am agreeing with you

        the pic where she turns her head away do tell a thousand words because it is a spontaneous reaction the bride had that was captured

        as opposed to the nice kiss pics which are obviously staged and ” directed” by the professional photographer

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:52 pm earl

        Oh, gotcha now.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm wargasm

        I don’t doubt she’s an annoying bitch, seeing as most American women are. But I have to agree with Matthew and say we’re running the risk of overanalyzing this one moment in time.

        One picture out of hundreds, taken out of context and viewed through one perspective can paint an ugly picture.

        Maybe right before the picture he said “now kiss me bitch” and she turned her head in faux indignation.

        If you take enough pictures of me over the course of a day from varying angles and with different expressions I’ll look alpha as fuck in some, relatively normal in most, beta in a few, and probably like I have Down’s Syndrome in a couple.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:02 pm haunted trilobite

        it’ll all end with a man in a bar asking the husband if his wife’s a goer, nudge nudge

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:46 pm Greg Eliot

        Say no more!

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm Anon

      “She should have been able to catch the eyes of an alpha, or at the very least, a greater beta that she could make out with. Her marrying a guy she won’t even kiss makes no sense whatsoever.”

      No, it makes perfect sense.

      I’m sure plenty of alphas pumped and dumped her, and she has learned her lesson. What alpha would marry a cold bitch? Plus, betas are easier to control.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm SC

      Corvinus, I agree with you. From the looks of it this girl is an 8 (my standards for both women and men are very relaxed compared to that of Heartiste). Why the hell was she allowed to marry a man who is probably at most a 6 or a 7? Depending on how beta his personality is, he might even be as low as a 5. Women should be barred by their friends/family from marrying too far down, as should men. But of course this is 2013 and none of her friends/family/community members wants to judge her life choices. If she had married an 8 none of this would have happened. She would have found him alpha enough and gave him a proper kiss.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm corvinus

        There was something else I thought of. On Return of Kings, there was an article a while ago which states that American women value their independence over love, which leads to things like ONS’es with alphas but running from them if they want to date them.

        I wonder if marrying a nauseating beta that she’s incapable of surrendering to rather than a more attractive man is her twisted way of keeping her independence.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm Patriarch

        Interesting theory.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:05 pm itsme

      look through the entire album:

      http://kgcphoto.blogspot.com/2013/05/heidel-house-wedding-photography-of.html

      she’s no cigstache, but she’s not alpha marriage material. look at her fat arms, they’re bigger than her neck!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:10 pm corvinus

        As with Kate Upton, she’s pretty hot now, but there’s a fat broad in there begging to come out.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 5:47 pm SC

        Yep, you are spot on again. I once listened to a youtube video by a man in his 40s who had a very attractive wife. His advice for unmarried men looking to settle down was to marry a skinny chick, even if she was a bit bony and lacked boobs/butt/hips. To paraphrase him, “you know that 19 year old girl with big boobs and big hips? she’s not gonna look so good when she’s 39.” Skinny when 19 –> normal weight when 39. Normal weight when 19 –> fat whale when 39. Therefore it would be wise for men looking to settle down to get a young girl who is about 15 pounds lighter than ideal. By the time she’s middle aged she’ll have plenty of curves without being a bloated mammoth.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:13 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Yeah, I noticed that those flabbers, too. She’s a depreciating asset with little residual value thanks to her used-up fuckholes.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 4:14 pm Tilikum

      that bitch has huge arms! uggo for my neck of the woods. shes gonna be huge

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 7:52 am Patriarch

      She is a profitstitute. She only need endure a few bumbling zexual experiences with Herman Munster to become pregnant, then during the pregnancy claim she “isn’t in the mood” and leave after it’s born.
      Profitstitute.

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  20. on June 3, 2013 at 11:37 am Maya

    Hearts, I don’t get that. Why do people get married if they don’t love each other?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Holden Caulfield

      Right here, GBFM needs to dedicate a rendition of the now classic Alpha Fux, Beta Bux hit single, since someone isn’t putting the pieces together (or is trolling)

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm earl

      Most men marry because of love. Given the risks that should be assumed.

      It’s women that need to know the definition of it.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm Maya

        No, I think it’s the opposite. Most men don’t give a shit about love (CH is an exception), they only care about sex. Why do you think there are so many PUA blogs? Because men want to have sex, they don’t want to fall in love.

        [CH: Very few women sound like they need a long, deliberate, full throttle fucking as much as you do.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm earl

        I do appreciate it when someone without a penis tells me what men are.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:10 pm Maya

        Haha. What makes you think so?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:03 am Maya

        Sorry for being so rude … I was afraid that you don’t like me and you were trying to insult me … but maybe you really think that I sound like I need a boyfriend which I probably do so sorry again for getting angry.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm Canadian Friend

        Wrong.

        Men do fall in love.

        Men fall in love trough their eyes and trough good sex

        this may sound unromantic but it is no worse than women falling in love with a man because he is tall and has social status/power/money

        If the man really likes the way a woman looks he can fall in love

        and if that woman gives him a lot of sex, odds are very high he will fall in love with her.

        Men give a shit about love.

        It is often after having had his heart broken by a woman he loved deeply that a man becomes an uncaring aloof Pick Up Artist.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:16 pm earl

        Men don’t love. I don’t think so. Only love would trigger these reactions.

        http://deadspin.com/this-is-the-face-of-a-baseball-player-who-just-felt-his-511072771?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:10 am Maya

        Shit.. This is really sad. But does it say anything about how he feels about women?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:45 am anonYmous

        guys seek out pua sites because our fathers were too busy working and dieing to explain to us how women need to be conquered and not bribed. Our women have been spoiled for centuries by not having to fear for their lives from invading hoardes of despots. This is the end result.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:14 am Tilikum

        this

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  21. on June 3, 2013 at 11:37 am Slang

    I wonder what that wedding night was like……………..actually no I don’t

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm Canadian Friend

      It was the only time she gave him a BJ

      but when he came she turned her head away…

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:01 am Slang

        lol………..you so mean!

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  22. on June 3, 2013 at 11:39 am earl

    I got it now…those are pictures of that guy’s funeral.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Yup. Dead man walking.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 8:07 pm Greg Eliot

      Before the marriage he felt like he was only half complete…

      Now, he’s finished.

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  23. on June 3, 2013 at 11:40 am greyghost

    corvinus
    She is still going to have her alpha. This guy is going to watch the kids when she goes on her girls vacation to Hawaii.

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  24. on June 3, 2013 at 11:40 am newlyaloof

    Hey Friend of the Husband … TELL HIM ABOUT THIS SITE DUDE! Be a friend and bail him out sooner than later. Tell him to comment under an anonymous name so we can chat with him about this incident.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:46 am Greg Eliot

      I must admit, a lurid interest in hearing more of this story crossed my mind as well.

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  25. on June 3, 2013 at 11:44 am Matthew King

    I guess the cynic’s role falls to me again. You are reading way too much into a single photo.

    That’s the problem when a tightly reasoned hypothesis — the perils of modern marriage to a cock carousel alumna — begins to unravel into conspiracy theory. Every observed mote, indeed every phenomenon in the world from the substantial to the trivial, must be backwards-engineered into support for the theory. That’s a bad methodology. Fun to talk about and to lament over, but not very related to the truth.

    The guy is holding her awkwardly, hunched over rather than lifting her up to his frame (literally and figuratively, what a man must do). His build is big enough compared to hers that he should have no trouble accomplishing the lift. Instead, he lowers himself to her frame. He just needs some practice, and yes, a shot of alpha confidence. But what man doesn’t these days?

    So is her reaction visceral disgust, as you automatically assume it for purposes of theory? Or is it physical awkwardness captured at a particularly inopportune moment?

    I mean, carousel graduates are vicious and bad at hiding their contempt for compliant males, to be sure. But she is such a cunt that she cannot even comport herself at the nuptials? I just don’t believe that. The wedding day is part of her fantasy. She is as fooled as anyone that she is marrying a real man. You mistake her as being fully aware of her manipulations. It’s only after she gets settled in that she gets the seven year itch. Or seven month. Or seven week. She may have vague intimations of what she has gotten into, but you are engaging in caricature.

    If the groom is really “a friend of” the correspondent, then he must help his friend Jekyll get his Hyde on, now that they’re married and starting a new life. Best to show him how to truly start a new life, with him in the driver’s seat, whether that was the deal the bride signed up for or not.

    Matt

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:52 am anon

      The reality is, 50 years ago a woman like the one in the picture would have died or been made barren by an STD caught while riding the carousel, and the world would have been much better off.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:53 am Greg Eliot

      But she is such a cunt that she cannot even comport herself at the nuptials?

      I hear what you’re saying…. but… what if the situation with American feminity (such as it is) have degraded to the point to where such cuntitude does indeed manifest itself as if involuntary muscular activity?

      I find it hard to believe that these pics can be dismissed as merely “physical awkwardness captured at an inopportune moment”… and I’m a hopeless romantic. 😉

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:53 am YaReally

      You think if she was into him she wouldn’t have practiced, you know, how their physical bodies work when they kiss eachother? For the biggest photographic moment of her life? And made sure he knew what do to? She just wung it and this is their first kiss ever? Or she didn’t know people including the expensive wedding photographer she hired to take photos would photograph their first kiss because she’s never heard of a wedding before?

      Occam’s razor, yo.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:05 pm corvinus

        Matt has a hamster, and it’s spinning madly right now.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:19 pm Matthew King

        Occam’s razor, yo.

        Sliiiiice.

        The point of my comment above wasn’t to deny that incidents like these happen (or even to deny that it was happening in the photo). It certainly does. The point was to caution against jumping to self-satisfying conclusions when the data can possibly suggest other conclusions.

        It’s no fun being the staff contrarian.

        Wait, yes it is.

        It’s a grand, beautiful world out there beyond the game glossary.

        Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm Harvey P. Levinstein, Esq.

        Again. It’s a JEWISH wedding. This is a big part of the issue.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:01 pm earl

        I always thought at Jewish weddings the man stood on the left side of the aisle.

        And if you don’t know why that is another put down to men…read up on the reasonings why men stand on the right side.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm Darius Jackson

        Wheres the chupa?

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:22 pm Greg Eliot

        My nose is out of joint because no has remarked upon my marked restraint.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:33 pm Lara

        I’m admiring the restraint you are showing, until you think of something clever to say.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm corvinus

        Hmm… that might explain some things. She was pressured into marrying a nice Jewish boy, so she did, because she couldn’t find a Jewish alpha.

        But in that case, she should have taken a vacation in Israel.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm Karl

        Israeli men don’t want to get attached to dead weight. It is not ==our== military which has not yet even stopped paying Major Nidal Hasan his full active-duty salary

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm Darius Jackson

        She wanted marriage,not….rape!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:20 pm Matthew King

        Well that was vulgar.

        Occam’s razor, yo.

        Sliiiiice.

        The point of my comment above wasn’t to deny that incidents like these happen (or even to deny that it was happening in the photo). It certainly does. The point was to caution against jumping to self-satisfying conclusions when the data can possibly suggest other conclusions.

        It’s no fun being the staff contrarian.

        Wait, yes it is.

        It’s a grand, beautiful world out there beyond the game glossary.

        Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:32 pm earl

        Quit getting so offended and playing a victim because you have a different opinion.

        You could be just as right in your mind about what is going on as everyone else is. Nobody looks at a piece of artwork and has the same interpretation of it.

        It could be a joke, it could be a setup, it could be she is disgusted, it could be her lover is at the wedding, it could be she has some weird religion where kissing condemns you to hell.

        At least let us have some fun in having some discussion.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:23 pm Matthew King

        Who’s “offended”? I am the opposite of offended. I am responding to responses.

        Now you’ve extended your divination of photographs into the realm of commenter motivations? What’s next, tea leaves and sheep entrails? Cow dung?

        Trust me, I am not preventing anybody’s stupid fun. Look around you. But if you press me, I’m not going to pretend it’s not stupid.

        Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:41 pm earl

        “The point was to caution against jumping to self-satisfying conclusions when the data can possibly suggest other conclusions.”

        How self satisfying was it to bring out Occam’s razor theory? There’s more to life than saying the simplest answer is most likely correct. I’ve read books on body language…because they tell more truth than words. You can’t tell me that is positive body language from the chick in those photos.

        “Trust me, I am not preventing anybody’s stupid fun. Look around you. But if you press me, I’m not going to pretend it’s not stupid.”

        So it’s stupid to have an interpretation of a photo? And people coming up to conclusions based on what they are seeing and experiencing in the world.

        I would agree with a chick thought that it’s a sweet and loving photo just as much as the most cynical PUA that this guy is in for a divorce case. I see sweet and loving from the guy and disgust in the woman.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:23 pm Matthew King

        How self satisfying was it to bring out Occam’s razor theory?

        I didn’t “bring out” the razor. I was responding to someone who was wielding it poorly.

        So it’s stupid to have an interpretation of a photo?

        It’s stupid to have an overinterpretation of a photo, especially when “the simplest answer is most likely correct.”

        Look, most of this is a matter of disposition, and I am clearly, clearly in a very small minority here. I think it’s more rewarding to get to the truth of a thing rather than practice the community shaming ritual over and over and over. But I realize that this ritual sustains many people here in their sense of the right. I would rather converse with those who no longer need this crutch, what few there appear to be.

        I am a neoaristocrat. There is no reason why those who have embraced the presently illegal truth of anti-feminism should not fashion themselves into the elite class of this society. But to become an elite, we must act like the elite: rather than begging for numbers to enter our class, we should be erecting barriers to entry and making the initiation difficult.

        Yes, we should sustain one another’s flagging morale with ritual, I’m all for that. At the same time, we shouldn’t be a permanent remedial teaching society, repeating platitudes like mantras. Some principles should be assumed as given, and that assumption becomes the secret mark of the elite. Within those safe ranks we may speak freely and discuss matters truthfully without constantly covering our rear flank, paranoid that the old untruths will take over among the insufficiently faithful.

        In other words, I don’t want to talk forever about what alpha and beta and omega means, how this is manly and that is herbly. We fully initiated members and veterans already know the basics like we know the arithmetic tables. When do we get to try trig? When do we get to discuss calculus proofs?

        Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Fucking Bueller?

        Matt

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:03 pm Jason

        Matt King writes: “In other words, I don’t want to talk forever about what alpha and beta and omega means, how this is manly and that is herbly.”

        (massive facepalm)

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:08 pm YaReally

        @Matt

        “Look, most of this is a matter of disposition, and I am clearly, clearly in a very small minority here”

        lol. Look, whether the moon is made of cheese is a matter of disposition, and that 4yo child over there is clearly, clearly in a very small minority here.

        That minority is called not knowing what you’re talking about but being too stubborn to admit when you’re wrong. Look at this as an opportunity to grow and take one more step to someday becoming a Man! :*

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:37 pm YaReally

        lol predictable as always. At least you’re consistent.

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/big-mistake/#comment-444881

        Like I said, “Pirate’s pics which Matt will try to use to prove he’s right”. Occam’s razor says that a girl who clearly isn’t into her dude in the biggest moment of their life that she’s dreamt about since she was a child, probably just isn’t into her dude.

        If a baby cries at having to eat vegetables, he probably doesn’t want to eat vegetables.

        Simplify, Matt. I know you don’t get to mentally masturbate and listen to yourself pontificate when you just accept the simple and obvious answer like everyone else, but imagine the wear & tear on your fingertips you’ll save by not having to type out your armchair analyses. 🙂

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:37 am Jason

        Seriously. The dude is trying to find himself by typing thousands — THOUSANDS — of words a day.

        He’s like a homeless man with a Ph.D. in humanities yammering at himself while picking bottles out of a trash can.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:38 am Greg Eliot

        Alphie who loves to snipe doing what he does best.

        Go post us some more Jesse Eisenberg snippets of how to be alpha…

        You fairy.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:42 am Matthew King

        I’ll take mental masturbation over the mutual handies you two sissies are giving each other.

        And for those of you who find it difficult to string together a coherent thought — much less compose an intelligent sentence — there is little doubt why my presence sends you into predictable palsy fits of consternation.

        OMG, like how could he put together, like, paragraphs of stuff when it takes me all day to hunt and peck a dozen words!!!

        You are not the people I am writing to, for, or about. Why do you insist on attaching your thinly disguised fan mail to every thread I post to?

        You know what obsessive incredulity and frustration over a person indicates, don’t you? You’re not the first bicurious dudes to have a crush on me.

        Here you are again talking about me rather than the subject of the post. You can’t help yourselves, you have no recourse when you’ve played every last card in your sorry little hand.

        Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:58 am YaReally

        And again you go into name-calling and trying (badly) to personally insult us etc. instead of addressing shit. We’ve got photos of the bride snubbing his kiss at the most epic kissing moment of their lives, then a sad-ass one of her cockblocking his kiss with a teethy smile, and the only pics she’s actually kissing him are staged by a photographer.

        You can talk about how much you want us to suck your dick all day, but it won’t distract anyone from being able to tell that you’re wrong. 🙂

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:36 am Subway Masturbator

        Now there you go, mental masturbation I can be in favor of. In fact, I advocate masturbation everywhere, especially in my favorite subway.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:47 am Jason

        Exactly, YaReally.

        Matt King has scolded pretty much everyone who’s ever posted a comment at the Chateau. But if we attempt to hold the mirror up to him … the thin-skinned baby screams.

        He’s a highly educated shrew, plain and simple. And rather than admit to it, he’d rather blow squid ink (“you must be bicurious”).

        It’s interesting that he instantly imagines possible homosexual partners for men who show an interest. It’s interesting that he expends so much time every day urging all guys, everywhere, to be more masculine. It’s interesting that he never, ever, discusses his own experience with women. And it’s most telling that he’s a staunch Catholic.

        As a product of a pretty severe Catholic institution, I’ve seen this pattern before. Many times.

        Put it all together, readers. I’ll let you fill in the blanks.

        I’m just sayin.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:56 am yeahokcool

        @jason. matt is not highly educated. he is an autodidact of the modern era (i.e., he read a lot of wikipedia articles). this isn’t to say that he isn’t “smart.” however, matt is completely lacking in self-awareness and how to apply his knowledge in some useful, real-world manner. that’s why he’s here. this is where he is most comfortable.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:02 am yeahokcool

        @jason. but i totally agree with the rest of your analysis. lol

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:27 am Greg Eliot

        Heh… even though I myself disagree a bit with Matt’s analysis, I’d still rather hear what he has to say about things than listen to the puerile remonstrations of you girl-shitters, metro jerk-offs, Cathedral-in-all-other-areas apologists, and self-styled profligates.

        And you cunts have the nerve to call anyone else who backs up his bro a lap dog? Read your own tripe.

        I’d rather be a henchman to guy like Matt than sit at a club with you weak-sister specimens… even if you were buying the drinks.

        You fairies.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:52 am Patriarch

        Agreed, Greg. I can understand shoving back when shoved, and I’ve kept my silence the entire time they’ve been duking it out as men are prone to do from time to time, but when I see the shrieking sisters Jason and Subway Mense jump on him from behind I call foul. These two in innumerable threads whine and piss about their leftist ideals and in true faggish delight rush into to blindside like a couple of negresses on Bourbon Street.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm yeahokcool

        point one: you mongoloids can suck my huge cock. that’s the most important point. point two: matt is a loser who has no real-world experience and you “racialists” are punny lackeys of said loser. so, you can have your little club all to yourselves, trust me.

        here’s a newsflash nerds: blacks and jews and all that shit you are obsessed over are shitty people. they are not like me and i don’t want them in my life or around my people. however, i have way more going on in my life than you apparently do, because i can’t waste my time obsessing over people i don’t like or care about. what’s your fucking problem, then? no, seriously? no matter how many times you nerds say that you’re going to change the world and all that shit, you’re not going to do ANYTHING. people with actual power laugh at you because you look foolish in your robes, sure, but moreso, you’re uncouth and uneducated and unbearable to be around. that’s why society (and women) has rejected you. that’s why you are failures. it has nothing to do with jews or blacks keeping you down. learn to take care of yourselves and you’ll be surprised at how little jews and blacks have to do with anything.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:46 am Greg Eliot

        Aren’t you the guy who vaingloriously boasts at every opportunity that you don’t really care what the folks on this forum say and don’t bother responding?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:24 am Patriarch

        Greg, Jason has said any and everything possible to win an argument here. I may not agree with Matts assessment of the photos but I know Jason and this has nothing to do with the debate at hand and everything to do with Jason getting a blow in. He’s trying to garner emotional support from his fellow sufferers of Matts “abuse”. Hahahaha
        What a vag.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:28 am Greg Eliot

        You nailed it.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm yeahokcool

        i’m starting to wonder if you guys all know each IRL.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm YaReally

        @yeahokcool

        No, I’m pretty sure the gloryholes are anonymous.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm Patriarch

        Ahaha look at Yaokcool whine. look at him go.
        Cae in point. If Matt or any of us hurt your feelings with our “racialist” views then go blog about it. Jesus brah, you bitch like an old woman.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm corvinus

      C’mon Matt. Do you seriously expect me to believe that a woman would screw up her wedding kiss?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm jerk

      “The wedding day is part of her fantasy. She is as fooled as anyone that she is marrying a real man.”

      An interesting thesis. But if this is your view of how brides necessarily view their husbands at their weddings, your mind is as closed to possibilities here as those who see a beta in every bridegroom.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:03 pm Cragsleeper

      I’m typically on board with not jumping to conclusions, but I can’t see any plausible explanation other than that she was uncomfortable kissing her husband. You’re correct in that typically the wedding is part of a woman’s fantasy – which is exactly why they nail things like the wedding kiss; they’ve rehearsed it in their minds over and over again. I had thought maybe he was whispering something in her ear and she was laughing due to that, but another pic posted in this thread shows him clearly kissing her on the lips while she continues to smile. Hell, shouldn’t admit this but I’ve had a woman react that way to a kiss, and even in my beta stupor I realized she was disgusted by me.

      [CH: The photo captures her id monster, and it is not pretty. It’s all claws and clamped vagina.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:34 pm YaReally

        “Hell, shouldn’t admit this but I’ve had a woman react that way to a kiss”

        Don’t feel bad, I’ve had it happen too, that’s why I recognize it. 😥 lol

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:40 pm Jason

        Yeah, I got a mouthful of blonde hair once, in my inexperienced days.

        She was a 10, and I hadn’t yet learned that they play by different rules.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:48 pm MichaelDouglas

        Had to read that twice;At first I thought you said “she WAS 10”!! LOL!!You fairy!!

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:22 pm Jason

        Haha. No, she was 25 yrs old, blonde, all curves, about 5’10”. I’d met her on an airplane flight, got the digits, went out. She was a bitch; I got nowhere because I was still learning how to handle girls of that caliber. But it was instructive.

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  26. on June 3, 2013 at 11:44 am Wilson

    Only way to recover is to tear her dress off right there and take her.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:04 pm Greg Eliot

      His admiration greater for the torso, hence the trousseau got tore so.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm Darius Jackson

      And expose her PENIS!!!!!!

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  27. on June 3, 2013 at 11:45 am newlyaloof

    P.S. FRIEND OF THE HUSBAND… at least send him an anonymous email with a bogus email account pointing to this web page. That’s what friends are for.

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  28. on June 3, 2013 at 12:05 pm Clash1e

    Major disrespect. If she pulled this on the wedding day then she likely pulled more emotional abuses earlier on in relationship.

    Look at the guy, his face is bright red in the pictures. If it was me, I would have grabbed the microphone and just shitted on her behavior in the most polite and unreactive way in front of all the guests, then walked out with my head high.

    And the fatass sister of the wife is behaving in the typical “look at me” attention whore way. He should have shut her down with amused condescending remarks and had a priest do it or his father or friends, if he’s secular.

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  29. on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Peregrine John

    Holy fuck. Holy fucking fuck. Run, do not walk.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:18 pm Anonymous

      Yeah. He be screwed.

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  30. on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Sombro

    That is a sad, fucking picture.

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  31. on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Toby

    Lol. Loving someone you love is a modern concept.

    Before, you marry the one whom you were arranged to marry.

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  32. on June 3, 2013 at 12:07 pm Roosh

    Is he hyphenating his name to add hers?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm Patriarch

      Hyphenating nothing. This bastard is going to just have her last name period. The cunt sister in law is overseeing the ceremony, and it follows she will be overseeing the quick marriage also. More than likely this marriage will be a quick pump and dump, her pumping all of his money out and then dumping him.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:06 pm corvinus

        This bastard is going to just have her last name period.

        The frosting on the cake. I’m not at all surprised he’s such her bitch that he’s taking her name. lozozozozo

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:36 pm Patriarch

        She’s going to probably be naming her children one of these androgynous fad names as well.
        Caden, Aiden, Braiden, Daxton, Braxton, etc.
        An entire generation of kids with faggy names.
        No more Bill, George, Peter, David, or Daniel.
        Just liitle shaggy headed snarky omegas in training hooked on Anime and high fructose corn syrup.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:49 pm corvinus

        –aiden is the SWPL version of negro –eesha

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:54 pm Patriarch

        The future looks polarized.
        White herbs living out their anime fantasies through video games while feral minorities stalk the no mans land between walled fence cities dedicated to liberal feminism.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:41 pm Brighton Rubicon

        Interestingly, the name of the bride and groom are “Ashley and Tyler”. Not sure which is which.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:45 pm Patriarch

        Other comment lost for some reason.
        Assuming they have kids, don’t expect a masculine name either.
        No more Bill, David, Charles, John, Peter or Daniel.
        No we have an entire new generation of omegas growing up addicted to anime and fueled by high fructose corn syrup with the names Braiden, Caden, Gerran, Daxton, Brax, Tristan and Gerreth.
        God help us all.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:25 pm Jason

        *Your* definition of a masculine name, Patriarch, reflects the era you were born in. Names have seasons and cycles, like most other things in life.

        Would you argue that Kobe Bryant is a wuss because his name ends in a vowel? Would you argue that Saul is a pussy name because someone gave it up after a lightning-storm conversion? The manliest names in the Puritan era were abstract nouns like Capability.

        Besides, half of those new “pussy” names you mentioned are centuries old Anglo-Saxon or Gaelic derived. And they weren’t no slouches in battle.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 9:16 pm Patriarch

        So which one did your wife pick out for your child, Jason?
        Don’t say I didn’t warn you when he becomes a vegan and refers to himself as cis gendered and watches anime.
        Then again, you’ll probably be a very, very proud heterosexual life partner, won’t you?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:33 am Jason

        I’m *thisclose* to selling popcorn whenever you post, Patriarch. You’re a bizarre sideshow with an unusual interest in my life.

        But by all means, keep projecting your fears onto me. I’m not one of those people who is bothered by random name-calling from Internet bizarros, and you’ve got some issues to work out.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 3:34 am haunted trilobite

        Jason, if you don’t recognise that some of these modern parents use their opportunity to name their child in a very self-serving way (as in, to express their inner pretentiousness) you’re living in a dreamworld. These are the same parents who barely acknowledge their children at the dinner table because they’re i-phlating their social media ego. You make a good point about the relevance of names in different eras, but the other observation is valid, and does seem to be indicative of a trend in society that some people are uncomfortable with. Who knows whether the tradition-clingers of the hipsters will be vindicated?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:34 am Greg Eliot

        Dude… you’re the one coming out of the woodwork to respond to his posts, as this very subthread evinces.

        And then posting Jesse Eisenberg interviews as example of alpha?

        You never seem to fail to find a way to tout up what you claim are not your fellow tribesmen.

        So, you’re either a liar or, as many here have noted, some hopped-up example of SWPL bitch boy.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:53 am Jason

        The moment I typed “-berg” on his last name, I realized that the J-haters were going to pounce. You being first.

        Didn’t you read my comment earlier? Just copy and paste: “blahblahblah jewkikeniggersemite blahblahblah”. Save yourself some time.

        And I’m Catholic, asshole.

        Watch the video. It’s surprising. I thought the guy was a pushover, but he was alpha caddish.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:07 am Jason

        @ haunted trilobite

        How does choosing a traditional Gaelic or Anglo-Saxon name such as Gareth or Aidan in any way signal *pretentiousness*? It screams “old tradition” to me.

        Granted, these names are part of a new trend, but my point above was that ALL naming follows trends.

        In fact, it’s so natural to change naming conventions that some illiberal countries actually have registries of acceptable names. In those places, if your choice isn’t on the registry, you can’t use it.

        (Yes, bad parents ignore children in favor of their iPhones. But it’s false causality to connect it to name choice. And I see many, many more liberal parents here in Los Angeles, BTW, who take TOO GREAT an interest in their kids’ lives. They’re called helicopter mothers.)

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:42 pm Patriarch

        The point is Jason, names thst have BECOME the traditional western choices of masculine names are being traided in for names that SOUND like the examples I lightheartedly gave earlier. I’m quite aware of the Celtic background bases for names I’ve given.
        Patriarch: “Jesus, it’s a hundred and fifty degrees out here.”
        Jason: “Technically, it’s never actually been that hot in New Orleans, at least not in the last 3.9 billion years. Where does this ignorant redneck get his data from?”
        He knows what a vagina is for, but couldn’t tell you what it smells like. (Before you start, yes I know you’re married….for the hundreth time.)

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:52 pm Jason

        So you’re saying that nobody should take your comments seriously.

        Done.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:59 pm Patriarch

        I love when you type like a snarky 16 year old boy, shaking his shaggy hair out of his eyes and grinning, thinking he stuck it to another racist. I literally CANNOT wait for your first encounter with a real minority.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:00 pm Jason

        Patriarch, I want you to take the make-believe image that you have of me, and smash it to smithereens. Here’s the real deal: Meat-eating, athletic, NAM-knowing, raised-Catholic, six foot two, happily married man to a gorgeous wife who cooks seven nights a week (no joke).

        And I’ve lived in the ghetto. Twice. And dated black girls.

        Yep. Smoke it.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm Holden Caulfield

      I bet the wife already has the divorce papers drawn up. She’ll wait approximately 6 months, then decide she’s “bored” and its somehow his fault. Then divorce rape will ensue.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:42 am Subway Masturbator

        Wait, wait, let me interrupt the stoning to ask a real-world question– Doesn’t she only get half of what’s acquired DURING the marriage, unless there’s a kid? And doesn’t being a single mother damage her SWPL superiority posture if she bails earlier? Doesn’t she have to have a five year horizon to walk away with any dough?

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  33. on June 3, 2013 at 12:09 pm Toby

    oopps… that’s suppose to be MARRYING someone you love…

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  34. on June 3, 2013 at 12:16 pm aneroidocean

    How much you want to bet that the guy was such a beta he didn’t even go in for the lip kiss…on purpose?

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  35. on June 3, 2013 at 12:19 pm Anonymous

    Dude, that hurts to look at… ow, my balls!

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  36. on June 3, 2013 at 12:21 pm feministx

    Not that this is why this chick did this, but this is what women in my family do when they marry white guys and have western weddings. Indians are very conservative about PDAs and do not ever kiss in public (it’s not even legal). They cannot bring themselves to kiss their spouse passionately with their family members watching, so they turn to the side, very awkwardly, and do the side kiss thing.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:52 pm Jay in DC

      It is one of the great paradoxes of the longing for brown women from more conservative places. Yes, they are untouched, but… they are untouched. And in many cases positively cold fish in bed, no different than a cock riding whore in it’s effect. They lay their because they have decades of conditioning about how bad sex is, just as the whore of babylon lays there out of sheer boredom at your tiny member attemping to go spelunking.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:29 pm itsme

        Yes, they are untouched, but… they are untouched.

        being outwardly conservative does not mean that they’re untouched. especially if these women have been in the anglosphere for any significant amount of time.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:40 pm feministx

        It’s true. Im not prudy. And I’m not virginal, but I might find it difficult to kiss the groom in front of my extended family. I mean, I guess I would do it as it is expected, but I don’t think I’d be into it as it would cause me self consciousness.

        My family is like old school. Like I saw my great uncle a couple of weeks ago. He said “why aren’t you married? You know what? My grandson is not married. He’s a good age for you. He’s a software engineer at microsoft.”

        I was like “isn’t your grandson a second cousin of mine?”

        He was like what’s the problem? My aunt told him that it’s different here and we don’t do that. He grimaced. I mean really, I have to make out with a white person in front of relatives like that (if they are indian, there is no public kiss part in the wedding)? I feel like that wouldn’t be that easy for me.

        [CH: Shyness is not the issue. The wedding kiss is a long-held American tradition. Everyone expects it, everyone does it (or tries to do it). To not do it is tantmount to someone raising their hand when the officiant asks if anyone objects to the marriage.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:13 pm feministx

        Yes, it is true. This girl looks white, so I am not sure why she would have the desire to not kiss the groom. It’s quite strange because it is something most girls look forward to since they are like 5. She must really have some issues. 99% of white women who marry betas who later divorce them out of disdain still kissed them on their wedding day.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm MichaelDouglas

        feministx a little advice re your grandpappy and other relatives. If by some chance the moon leaves its orbit and crashes into Mars and you actually find someone to marry you,by all means be as Indian as you like! But if your poor hubby should pass away before you,might want to think ‘western”as far as the funeral goes! ha ha I kill myself sometimes!!

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 4:45 pm feministx

        Good advice. Kiss your husband and don’t burn to death on purpose. Great ideas of the qhite man.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 4:58 pm Stilicho

        Femininstx….I challenge you to a medieval spike shield duel….

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 9:44 am Subway Masturbator

      Now the next best thing to nutting at 4 AM on my favorite line out of Manhattan while trapped rapidly sobering sorority sisters watch in horror, is defiling a frigid Indian bitch who can’t imagine liking sex but fully understands DRIP.

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  37. on June 3, 2013 at 12:22 pm Marky Mark

    I wonder why she was with him in the first place… probably first guy she met in college or something and was more alpha when they started dating. I often wonder how some of these married men get women to begin with… seeing as how they would get shut down in a heartbeat at a bar.

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  38. on June 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm Beta Beware #1 – The Hyphen | newlyaloof

    […] I have a theory. A woman who insists on keeping her maiden name and going with a hyphen last name is more likely to cheat on her future husband, thus future husbands should avoid this big mistake. […]

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:38 pm late late late bloomer

      that ain’t a theory brother, it’s a neon sign saying ‘open for business’ get yourself a facebook account and try a few on. it’s free!

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  39. on June 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm Turd

    It looks like she kept her last name

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=13949897&directed_target_id=0

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:39 pm earl

      She’s from MN. Well that explains a lot.

      The male role models from that state are beta, herb, or gay.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:26 pm Jason

        Jesse Ventura?

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      • on June 7, 2013 at 3:15 am emopap

        “Jesse Ventura”

        You do realize that “ventura” is his wife’s maiden name. He took his wife’s name–NOT the other way around.

        Got anything else??

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:44 pm corvinus

      She admires her daddy much more than her new loser hubby.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        That’s because Big Daddy DeBo don’t fuck around:

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  40. on June 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm Dslap

    The guy is a pedo but doesn’t mean his comments are wrong:

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/05/26/roman-polanski-says-birth-control-pill-had-made-women-more-like-men/?intcmp=obnetwork

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm Jay in DC

      The guy is a pedo Are you sure? Did you read that on the internet? Because he wanted to fuck girls who were IN PUBERTY or just beyond it 13-17 like every swinging dick since the dawn of time until the feminist clap-trap told us that wanting to bang teenagers is evil? You think “barely legal porn” is one of the most popular types as a coincidence? Shouldn’t you be off doing something like “Taking Back the Night(tm)?” Take that weak shit back to Jizzibell… thank you.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:34 pm cynthia

        I’d agree that fucking one underage girl does not a pedo make – I’ve got no idea what kind of world lies between Roman Polanski’s ears, so there’s no way to make a call on whether or not he is sick. But fucking a girl barely into puberty is a social perversion, and Hollywood tends towards the child pornography bent, so…

        Oh, yeah, didn’t he drug and fuck her without consent? That’s criminal no matter what age the girl is.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:28 am Greg Eliot

        Yeah, that drugging thing is conveniently forgotten to be mentioned by his apologists… profligate online Lotharios, his fellow tribesmen, and whoring actors who want to continue “working in this town”.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:06 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      He just did what millions of men have been doing since the dawn of time: bang teen girls. Before there were pesky age of consent laws, guys were gettin’ it on with fresh, nubile girls ‘cuz it made good biological sense to impregnate younger broads versus old ones. Polanski was merely acting on his primordial manstincts to mate with teeny boppers.

      Had he gone south of the border and mounted her in Mexico, shit woulda been copacetic. Too bad California’s age of consent is a steep 18 years old.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case

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  41. on June 3, 2013 at 12:31 pm Darius Jackson

    For what its worth,Michael Douglas says he got throat cancer from eating lots of pussy.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm Greg Eliot

      Damn, you black fellows were right all along!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:49 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        Fast forward to 1:00.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 8:10 am Slang

      Guys, on a serious note, never eat a pussy without getting the HPV test done on her.

      Also, never eat a pussy until she’s done some nasty/kinky things to you multiple times first. They orgasm hard from it, but it is supplicating behavior.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 11:20 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        ^This. If you must eat pussy, make sure she’s sucking you off at the same time.

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  42. on June 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm Anon

    Actually, this is more embarassing for hubby than the bride. Her reaction was natural for when someone drools all over you in public.

    I bet they kissed after the vows, then kissed again and then the beta got a hard-on that he couldn’t manage because of the beta excitement and the beta oneitis.

    This picture is more of a warning against beta public display of affection. The girl will probably react like this when you use too much beta PDA and when she knows you’re a beta.

    Guys, can we please have at least for once a comment thread without “you fairy” in it?…
    … oops too late.

    You fairy.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:41 pm Greg Eliot

      I see what you did there.

      You… lulz.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:21 pm Darius Jackson

        Fairy?? LOL thats so 1950’s!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:51 pm Greg Eliot

        Apparently you too have missed the innumerable Glengarry Glen Ross homages here at the chateau… sigh.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 4:08 pm Darius Jackson

        Love those Al Pacino crank calls on YouTube: “You fairy!!” Specially when they call a colored guy. I guess I am easilyamused.

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  43. on June 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm late late late bloomer

    in all seriousness, whether it’s the guy in the picture or someone else at the wedding, there is at least one current sexual partner of hers in attendance, and it’s obviously not the husband. she thinks she can squeak through the vows without incident. but she doesn’t want to lose the interest of her lover by showing too much affection and finds herself viscerally revolted by this interloper, her husband, when she’s thinking about the man that makes her shiver.

    i’ve been at weddings of women i was sleeping with. and they’re not as sick as this chick but pretty much the same. i’ve heard “when i’m with him i feel like i’m cheating on you” about husbands.

    when will this world just end already.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm Matthew King

      … there is at least one current sexual partner of hers in attendance, and it’s obviously not the husband. she thinks she can squeak through the vows without incident. but she doesn’t want to lose the interest of her lover by showing too much affection and …

      Sweeeet fuck, you read too much fanfic. The lines between fabrication and reality are permanently blurred. You know all this about the couple … how?

      Posting a photo here becomes a call for short story submissions. Instead of Create A Caption contest, it’s Create A Psychodrama.

      I give up.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:51 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        “I give up.”

        FINALLY!

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:23 pm YaReally

        @bloomer
        “i’ve heard “when i’m with him i feel like i’m cheating on you” about husbands.”

        lol I’ve gotten this too. It depressed me at first, but when you realize how many sexless/attractionless relationships there are out there, it’s hard to really get upset because it’s such a widespread thing that people just don’t talk about.

        @Matt
        “Sweeeet fuck, you read too much fanfic. The lines between fabrication and reality are permanently blurred. You know all this about the couple … how?”

        Like we’ve already established here:

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/fake-it-till-you-make-it-the-scientific-evidence-in-favor/#comment-427433

        This stuff is fanfic, screenplay fabrication to you because you don’t have the real world experience other guys do. Which is surprising, because I would’ve figured you’d have TONS of reference experience of women rejecting you kissing them to draw from lol I guess you’d have to interact with them first.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:09 am Matthew King

        This is as close to a confession of embellishment as we will ever get from you, studly.

        I wasn’t talking about the “TONS of … women rejecting you kissing them” — though I’d point out that the use of the word TONS in all-caps is an indication you are serial date rapist and/or drive-by groper one level removed from a subway masturbator. Your “game” is conversational rohypnol among a group of sloshed slots whose panties are already around their proverbial knees. (Don’t mind me, I’m green with envy. Ipso facto.)

        I was talking about Late Bloomer’s imaginative backstory, where he claims to have found the “the interest of her lover,” visceral revulsion, and thoughts that “make[] her shiver” in a fleeting expression. Just like:


        Look at Obama! He’s retarded! Durrrrrr…

        Now, dumbass, let me preempt your predictable reply and emphasize that yes, these scenarios actually exist in real life, all the time. I’ve seen the Jerry Springer show. I have heard what the white trash landfills you scavenge are like. And no, these are not circumstances that occur often in the class of people I most often deal with. But I will acknowledge the frequency of its occurrence among your low-class, permaboner, rut-in-the-shitter-stall type.

        NONETHELESS, Late Bloomer’s depiction of things is simply not in evidence of the photo. Do you not realize that the fantastical stories you concoct say much more about you and your class than they possibly could about a group of people whose entire lives you claim to have gleaned from a couple of snapshots?

        Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:54 am YaReally

        What in the world was the first half of your comment up to the Obama GIF about? lol. Have you gone off your meds?

        “these are not circumstances that occur often in the class of people I most often deal with.”

        They do, you just aren’t aware of it. You aren’t privy to the information because you give off a judgemental vibe, so they put on their “hopefully King A doesn’t think we have “no class”!!” facade when you’re around. Yes, even your close friends.

        Besides, if the “class of people” you “most often deal with” are guys like Greg Eliot, then you and I have *VERY* different definitions of class. lol

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:25 am anonymous

        “Besides, if the “class of people” you “most often deal with” are guys like Greg Eliot, then you and I have *VERY* different definitions of class”

        …says the guy who claims to have once defecated on a girl.

        you’re not just delusional, you’re fucking retarded.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm YaReally

        Look man, your mom said she was INTO it, I just went along with it. I hear she’s off all the drugs now so hopefully she’s doing better. Send her my love.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:42 pm anonymous

        lol oh noez the resident scatophile has attempted to shame me with a mom joke ;((((

        you’re the very embodiment of low class, brosef. i honestly don’t even mean that as a putdown or anything of the sort. just stating the plain truth for anyone with eyes to see.

        before you hit me with another mom joke, wipe yourself off a bit will ya?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:47 pm YaReally

        Oh man, what does that make your mom then?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:11 pm Col Nicholson

        Excellent point. This describes my older brother. Starting in grade school
        he fashioned an eagle scout/ junior priest personality that effectively shut him out of any insight into human nature and now it’s way too late to unwind.

        The last time I talked to him he was angry that, as a guest at his boss’s
        Thanksgiving dinner he and his wife were put at the children’s table.
        Between his Yale degree and his insufferable, unrelenting rectitude, no one want’s to be around him.

        He’s not an asshole, he’s a prisoner.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:06 pm late late late bloomer

        you’re right, i ‘know’ exactly zero of what i wrote, but i do think it’s true. total guess. but i’ve been to more than one wedding where i was a recent or current lover, and brides make efforts, astoundingly obvious efforts, to signal to you that they’re thinking about you, and it still doesn’t look as bad as these pics.

        could be the opposite and she is the most devoted gal to her one and only man, but part of commenting for me is just for fun and part of it is to realize that whether this exact instance is true or not, it is definitely possible and worth avoiding.

        i only wish i got my thoughts, right or wrong, from fanfic instead of real life in the age of the empowered american beastess.

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  44. on June 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm platonas

    Betas gonna beta gonna beta gonna beta

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm late late late bloomer

      i just googled it and realized i had only independently thought of it, and not anywhere near first, but you’re right

      betas gonna ‘bate

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:16 am someguy

        Nice guys jerk.

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  45. on June 3, 2013 at 12:53 pm Nathan

    I think people are reading way too much into these photos. No woman would marry a guy if she is so disgusted by him she will not even kiss him at the wedding. Most likely, she is either playing a joke on him by being coy with the kiss or he is playing a joke on her by going for her neck in front of her friends and family.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm late late late bloomer

      “No woman would marry a guy if she is so disgusted by him she will not even kiss him at the wedding.”

      i wish i could convincingly give a gbfm-style lol, but… LOL

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 1:07 pm Nathan

        Care to explain your “lol”? I’m really not getting it. I’m not saying women go into their weddings with the right intentions or crazy in love, but this is an extreme interpretation of these photos.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 2:29 pm late late late bloomer

        i was specifically talking about the ‘no women…’ and maybe i was being too literal with the absolute nature of your statement, but of course some, if not many, women indeed would and indeed do marry men they can’t stand, and relish humiliating them daily.

        i don’t think a quality woman who is moon-eyed over an alpha man considers playing emasculating tricks on him in public on her day to be the center of attention– i do think the interpretations on display here are very likely correct. since we know who they are we can revisit it and see! 🙂

        and btw no disrespect intended, just as a former long-term beta myself, the idea of most or all women having respect, admiration, or affection for the man they marry struck me as funny. and not ha ha funny now that i think about it.

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      • on June 7, 2013 at 7:13 pm David

        I just think she’s over the hill and wide. Look at her walking up the aisle with Dad, she looks much better from the side, but nothing can hide her sheer width. She needs to settle down before it gets even worse, fast. This guy is available.

        Now he looks very beta in the photos but that does not bother me near as much. He’s even tall, and for a guy the rest is all fixable. He’s probably spent too much time in the lab and too little on this site. Wifey may just get more than she bargained for here. May she have many surprises.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:04 pm earl

      Kept her last name, her sister is the person hitching them, smiling while he actually kisses her on the lips.

      If she is playing a joke on him…there’s going to be a bad punchline.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:05 pm Greg Eliot

      Aw hell…Twilight Game? On the bridal altar?

      Sigh… the Weimar Republic is starting to look like Sparta.

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  46. on June 3, 2013 at 12:56 pm Fran

    Groom kind of looks like Jack Black…well from that angle, anyways.

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  47. on June 3, 2013 at 1:08 pm Danger

    @Grooms friend.

    Hook me up with the Maid of Honor. I want to wreck that for a few weeks.

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  48. on June 3, 2013 at 1:24 pm itsme

    look through the album:

    http://kgcphoto.blogspot.com/2013/05/heidel-house-wedding-photography-of.html

    pic 3: holy fat fucking tree trunk arms batman!
    pic 5: dad is thinking ‘totally j3wed him’
    pic 12: wife is looking at the guy she’s banging behind her husband’s back
    pic 14: husband has already predicted his own future
    pic 15: she gets the ‘lifetime of beta’ realization
    pic 21: guy from pic 12

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm earl

      Last pic: That dude is gettin some.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:54 pm Inane Rambler

      What can you say? White girls love them some black cock.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:04 pm earl

      Third to last pic…gay dudes in the background, lesbians up front.

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  49. on June 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm stevie tellatruth

    “… getting a woman to marry you is not hard. What’s hard is getting a woman to love you.” – CH

    PREACH!!!

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  50. on June 3, 2013 at 1:52 pm n/a

    For anyone worried about death from rug-munching, some numbers:

    http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/hpv/statistics/headneck.htm

    6.4 per 100,000 incidence for white men.

    I’ll repeat that:

    6.4 per 100,000.

    In short and in sum and in fine, if eating cunt is your thing, go to it. The absolute risk is impressively low.–

    [CH: The prettier the girl, the more I want to labiamize her. Glad to hear the risk is low, (and probably lower still for hot girls who don’t sleep around as much as less attractive girls.)]

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm n/a

      Web/news commentary on the perhaps tongue-in-cheek remarks of Michael Douglas provides the *perfect* example of innumeracy and hysteria and their unfortunate meeting in the media.

      A tutorial on the difference between relative and absolute risk is in order.–

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:01 pm n/a

      The absolute risk is so low you could probably eat the cunts of whores morning noon and night for half a century and have little more than a well-muscled jaw to show for it.

      The use of the word “epidemic” in this context is truly outrageous when one looks at the actual number of cases.–

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:22 pm Rick Derris

      Michael Douglas probably had the misfortune to hook up with Sharon Stone during the filming of “Basic Instinct.” Don’t forget he claimed that he was infected circa 1992 and the movie was filmed in 1991. She might’ve been hot back then but she looked like a total dirty-ass ho.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 5:04 pm Libertardian

      “The prettier the girl, the more I want to labiamize her.”

      Claiming that eating pussy is inherently beta is a popular way to establish Internet tough guy cred these days, so it’s refreshing to hear some common sense on that subject.

      [Ch: The alpha or beta merit of cunnilingus is a fine, vertical line. It’s true that plenty of alphas love to eat at the Y, but this fascination only holds for pretty girls with non-smelly vaginas. It’s also true that plenty of betas will promptly go down on women to the exclusion of their own pleasure because they think a woman’s pleasure is more important, and that she will reward him for his slobbery slavishness.

      Basically, it’s contextual. A good rule of thumb, though: When you are first dating a hot babe — aka a babe in demand — it’s a good idea to resist the urge to munch on her for hours on end before you have fucked her and gotten off. Cunnilingus may be introduced later on, say two months, when she is fully engaged with you as an intimacy partner.]

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 6:47 pm Anon

        “Cunnilingus may be introduced later on, say two months”

        That may be valid for guys who are relationship-oriented. Others like to make a strong impression even for one night stands.

        If hotness and hygiene are satisfactory, and even if rug-munching is not pleasurable in itself, going full Pierre Woodman on a girl with cunni+G-spot+A-spot, followed by ruthless doggystyle (and anal if you have no spiritual depth whatsoever) is quite a sure way to gain a sex god cred, without risking the alpha points supposedly scored during the courting ritual.

        Not to please her, not to deepen the emotional bond in a relationship. The sole purpose here is ego masturbation.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 3:04 pm YaReally

        This.

        First time is all about rocking her world. But I do it for MY pleasure (ego), not hers. I pride myself on fucking her in a way that no other guy will ever be able to fuck her.

        They don’t come back to me over and over for my beer belly, lack of money, no car, and average height lol

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  51. on June 3, 2013 at 2:00 pm Beefy Levinson

    “Honey, it would be really awesome if my sister could do our wedding!”
    “Gay”
    “But honneeeeeey!”
    “Nah”

    To the groom I would say, “Where did you learn your trade you stupid fucking cunt, you idiot?!”

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:56 pm Greg Eliot

      Allow me:

      “You fairy!”

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:21 pm The Bechtloff

      Better reply.
      “Honey, it would be really awesome if my sister could do our wedding!”
      “Like I give a shit, just as long as she saves some cake for everyone else”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 3:50 pm Greg Eliot

        That was worth a snigger.

        (dammit, thwack… I said snigger!)

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 10:51 pm yeahokcool

        You’re a vaudeville show.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:20 am Greg Eliot

        Yeah, I’m the guy who jokes around… sometimes even at my own expense… and makes people that I like feel good.

        You must be that other guy.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:08 am yeahokcool

        the bosshogbigdog, you mean? hell yeah, that’s me.

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  52. on June 3, 2013 at 2:09 pm DiaboloBello

    Can’t wait until this chick sees this thread. Matter of time.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 2:43 pm earl

      It would be doing her a favor…you know how many tingles she’d get.

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  53. on June 3, 2013 at 2:32 pm santa666

    What’s up with their faces? Either grow a beard or don’t. Sheesh.

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  54. on June 3, 2013 at 2:42 pm santa666

    I’m also really disappoint no one has trolled this bitch yet.

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  55. on June 3, 2013 at 3:19 pm The Bechtloff

    That poor bastard. Why didn’t anybody stop him? A friend, his father, hell HER father, somebody anybody should have pulled this poor SOB aside and slapped some sense into him, literally if needed.

    I don’t care if he’s a beta dork, he still doesn’t deserve the hell that that marriage will be or being fed into the divorce-industrial complex that is the family court meat grinders at the end of this disaster.

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  56. on June 3, 2013 at 3:19 pm The Alchemist

    Who ever said this bride is an 8 needs their head examined. Even with the wedding day war paint, she’s still in the 6-7 range. And one look at the FB page will show you she’s a solid 6. Her husband is about a 6 too. So physically, they are evenly matched for now. She’ll balloon up pretty soon, though. And that, as they say, will be that.

    IMO bride is not recoiling. Bridesmaids and other guest, as well as bride, are laughing about something that happened right before photo was snapped. However, he is leaning and yearning in many of the photos. Needs to work on that a bit.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 10:53 pm Jay in DC

      ^^^–This. Put the fucking crack pipe down. Look at those arms, those are “bingo wings” in training and she ain’t even 30 I’m guessing. She is *at most* a 6 and that is generous. But with people calling her 7 or 8 it is easier for me to understand just how low the bar is set for your average American male these days.
      Of course they are from bumfuck Wisconsin so she is an Oshkosh 7 or 8 I guess? Token nigger at the wedding by the way, will get the most ass out of anyone and have his pick of SWPL chicks since he is exotic there and they can claim a “black friend” who they once banged.

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      • on June 7, 2013 at 7:25 pm David

        She looked 8ish to me from the side, in the photo where she’s refusing the kiss. Ass looked shapely. That’s probably the magic of being buttoned tight into a good wedding dress. But walking up the aisle with Dad — in the 4-6 range. (We do use the numbers up to 5 don’t we?) She . is . too . wide.

        I’ll take that back if she’s already 3 or more months pregnant with a girl. Then the hips would widen from that. (Boy pregnancy is narrower hips, belly sticks further out.)

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  57. on June 3, 2013 at 3:22 pm Bitch Slapped

    Someone send that guy this picture and all of this commentary. Hopefully he gets divorced in a few days.

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  58. on June 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm Brighton Rubicon

    Looking at the other pics of her, she has really weird arms. And the groom looks like a chubby version of James Blunt (the crappy singer-songwriter who was ubiquitous about six years ago with his song “You’re Beautiful”).

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  59. on June 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm Tex

    I can’t believe nobody saw this. The bride’s maid is wearing house slippers. That’s ghetto.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm Lara

      I just noticed that. I wonder why.

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  60. on June 3, 2013 at 3:41 pm logicwontgetmelaid

    Sobering. This will be a good page to show friends who are making the same mistake…

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  61. on June 3, 2013 at 3:53 pm Leo G

    Pounding the wife of 27 years last night. Finish. Snuggle. Go to get off and have a piss, and she pulls me back! First time ever. Right in the prime of her cycle.

    This shit works!

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 3:57 pm Greg Eliot

      Good on ‘er! Good on you!

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  62. on June 3, 2013 at 4:03 pm Nicole

    I don’t feel sorry for the guy. He’s getting what he paid for.

    A man who would tolerate that from a woman does so because it is more important to him to be with someone “hot” or socially convenient than to be with someone real. Rather than waiting for someone who had both looks and heart (which may be like searching for a unicorn these days), or choosing someone a little less hot but more responsive, he went for plastic.

    So he’s getting what he wanted. Who am I to judge his choice?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 7:11 pm Maldek

      IF you consider the bride a “HOT” babe, you and I are living in different worlds.
      Giving you the benefit of the doubt, it is true that in the west (USA, GB, D etc) there is a disease spreading called “overweight”. Nevertheless there are enough sexy women around who deserve the label HOT.

      This bride is none of them. Even 5-10 years earlier (my guess of her is 29/31) she was bangeable at best, never HOT.

      Given in numbers she is a 6. Back in her days, with arms less fat, she was maybe 6.5 to 7. In these pictures, she is modest and most men on this board would not date her, even less consider her LTR material, even if her personality was kind.

      Or in short so you can understand it: No alpha would marry a chick that “ugly”. Period.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:11 pm Nicole

        You highly overestimate Americans, and underestimate the power of desperation for approval.

        But you are kinda right about one thing. The truly hot girls were all married to someone alpha enough for home life before 25. You can’t just be walking around with beauty and a good heart and not have dudes trying to wife you. It just can’t be, even if you are a bit socially inconvenient. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

        Whores though, play whatever advantages they have, and ply their trade where it is the most profitable. A weak man who might be Gay or have no sex drive, doesn’t need someone truly beautiful inside or out. He needs someone who will serve his purpose or perhaps validate his self hatred. Either way, there is nothing to pity in this man. It’s not like the woman isn’t already bearing the facial signs of wearing a near constant expression of contempt, and bodily signs of not having nurtured anything but an overblown sense of entitlement in her life.

        So he offers stability and money and social benefits, and she offers him the ability to pass for straight, get promoted more easily, and perhaps if they can tolerate each other for a few minutes, some depressed children to continue the cycle.

        Our hell is their heaven.

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      • on June 7, 2013 at 8:51 pm David

        You have such contempt for geeky looking guys. There are plenty of other girls who don’t, who see quality there, so that’s fine with us. Geeky guys are able to understand game. It’s fixable. Someone give that guy the URL here.

        Stability IS important if there are to be kids, I think. And so he’d better alpha up fast and see if she stays or goes, before things start being unfixable like having kids come into a bad marriage. A quickie divorce should not cost him much if anything.

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  63. on June 3, 2013 at 4:15 pm Dan Fletcher

    What really stands out to me is the war-sow behind them. A wretched, vile creature. Look at that fake, menacing smile and the plaster of makeup.

    A face of pure evil.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 7:34 pm Jason

      Newsflash: Most brides wear heavy, plastered makeup on wedding day. It’s for the photographs. Many also wear enormously fake smiles because 1) they’re socialized to do so, and/or 2) they’re so damn nervous.

      But your imagination is impressive.

      (I do agree that the marriage is probably finished in less than seven years, though.)

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 10:24 pm Dan Fletcher

        Wasn’t talking about the bride you cum dumpster. Was talking about the sow behind them.

        Thems be evil Jabba the hut eyes.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:43 am Greg Eliot

        I wouldn’t have been surprised to see a girl in a bikini chained behind her.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 11:09 pm Patriarch

        Anyone who uses “newsflash” in a conversation with grown men is one wrist flip away from playing Duck Duck Aids in a truckstop restroom.Goddamn man, can’t you seriously just not be a faggot for one post?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:28 am Jason

        You argue like a woman. I’m not convinced that you’re a man.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:10 am Matthew King

        Hm. Now where have I heard that recently? Oh, yes:

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/the-best-all-purpose-alpha-male-text-response/#comment-444596

        Only mine was an actual presentation of a case for your literally feminine manner of “argument,” rather than a throwaway line indicating transparent butthurtedness.

        Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 4:19 am ( @ Y @ )

        Thank fuck someone said it. Seriously who is this “jason” character. “His” shit reads like a professional jizabel plant or some such. I’m not buying he’s a LBG (leftist big man) either. LBG’s are only LBG’s because they find a rare niche with SWPL tang and are not self aware enough to see a bigger picture but they still sound like a man some of the time.

        Where did you learn your trade?

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:14 am Jason

        Says the guy who named himself after a pair of tits.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 10:40 am Greg Eliot

        Tits or no (and what better way to bring men to attention?), everything he says rings true… especially the professional jizabel plant.

        I’ve often suspected you of cogdis activity.

        You fairy.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:46 pm Dan Fletcher

        Bwahahaha

        +1

        Leftist big man wannabe is the perfect description of Jason.

        “This alpha loves to fight”

        lozlolzozlozlzol

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:27 pm Patriarch

        Seriously. As time goes by, “he” seems more and more of the moose and squirrel type. Jasons comments are always all over the place. He’s womanizing in some, liberal in others…. check his papers.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:53 pm Jason

        The worst thing in life is to be ignored, so I must be making an impression. Good.

        You guys think that “economic liberal” and “game” are mutually exclusive?
        Are you aware of the existence of a man named Bill Clinton? Or a deceased man named John F Kennedy? Or various tough-guy union activists from the 1930s?

        Jesus, the fact that Democrats are having all the sex should be glaringly obvious just from the demographic changes.

        Take off the blinders. Embrace change and contradiction. It’s a guaranteed prejudice killer.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:01 pm Patriarch

        For someone who is ignoring someone, you certainly enjoy replying.
        You honestly believe libtards are the ones “having all the sex”?
        Your condescension is showing again.
        For the rest of you reading, the part about embracing diversity should be enough for you to ignore/mock anything our good comrade Jason has to offer.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 9:13 pm Jason

        I got no beef with anybody, of any color, unless they do me wrong. Benefit of the doubt for all humanity is the best way. That’s different from being a pushover, by the way; it’s being civil.

        The other choice — YOUR choice — is to your grave with jaw clenched, fists balled, and hate in your heart.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 9:45 am Tyrone

      Wisconsin has a lot of fat women. The Sister in law is pretty typical.

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    • on June 7, 2013 at 8:52 pm David

      Yeah she has a feminist look, the one behind.

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  64. on June 3, 2013 at 4:31 pm Leo G

    LOL.

    [CH: Stop repeating yourself. Your “discovery” has already been answered satisfactorily by other commenters. In that pic she is smiling like a goof while he’s kissing her. Total giveaway she’s not feeling it with him. It’s the spontaneity of the ceremony pics that matter, and in those she’s either outright rejecting him or smiling stupidly during the kiss.]

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 12:16 am Spiralina

      I’m not sure that pic is spontaneous. There’s another pic where they’re in the same place doing the normal wedding kiss. I’m guessing this is one of a series of outtakes where they were joking around. Not to say there aren’t obvious problems here, but I can’t imagine any woman – no matter how shallow and hypergamous – deliberately ruining her own “pretty pretty princess” moment with such a grotesque display unless it was a pre-planned joke.

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  65. on June 3, 2013 at 5:06 pm Anonymous

    i wonder what went through groom’s head at that moment

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 6:39 pm Libertardian

      IT’S A TRAP!

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:37 pm corvinus

      “Aw, she’s so chaste!” *warm fuzzies*

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  66. on June 3, 2013 at 5:23 pm Alchemist

    Someone cherry picked two pictures where he was kissing her cheek out of a bunch where they looked pretty happy, including a couple where she is kissing him full on the mouth. I am nothing approaching a feminist, but you people are overreacting majorly. It’s not easy to tell what’s happening in still pictures. The photographer might have snapped off ten pics really quickly while he was kissing all over her face or something, trying to look silly and cute.

    [CH: She turned her cheek for the most important kiss — the wedding kiss. That says something.]

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  67. on June 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm Troubadour

    That poor bastard fell for it hook, line and sinker. I bet she made him eat her out under that dress, and never even touched his penis on their wedding night.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 12:46 pm MichaelDouglas

      Eat her out under her wedding dress?! Who does that! I mean nobody right? But if they did,so what,man? Maybe he wanted to! So fucking what!??

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  68. on June 3, 2013 at 5:56 pm call it like i see it

    I posted this on Feministix’s wordpress account after this and the comments following it

    http://feministx.wordpress.com/2013/06/02/focus-on-the-positive/comment-page-1/#comment-342

    what do you think will be her hamster rational for blocking this comment:

    I see alot hamster going on here…so Im gonna but a non-beta’s perspective on it……..

    are you the ugliest women out there…..NO
    Are you the Most attractive women out there…..Hell NO
    Are you moderatley attractive considering your age, ethnicity, etc…………..sorry…

    Your shoulders are waay to broad, and your hips to small…….your deltoids are over deveolped for a lady……you have ugly looking hands/fingers/fore arms…

    the bra doesnt help either……making you look like you have big pec muscles, for some reason,…another masculine trait….

    Look, you probaly think im coing off as a troll, or jerk off……but when you spend time specifically nit picking your boyfriends flaws on Heartiste, despite all he is doing for you, then you have to learn how to take what you dish out……..

    I live near Edison and South Brunswick, NJ (Full of Indians), and honey, you would be lucky score among a three amongst some of them

    I figure you would have no problem with me saying this, considering how to bash out your significant other to strangers online…….I mean, you are just a stranger to me after all.

    if you can be an ungrateful attention whore on Heartiste talking shit about your boyfreind, than a stranger talking shit on a stranger shouldnt really bother you.

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  69. on June 3, 2013 at 6:15 pm Big Mistake « PUA Central

    […] Big Mistake […]

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  70. on June 3, 2013 at 6:29 pm Dr. Faust

    When I was a little girl I wanted to be a princess. My daddy would hug me tightly, lift me off my feet and twirl me around and say, “Princess, you can be anything you want when you grow up. So I became a man because women are stupid.

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  71. on June 3, 2013 at 6:40 pm Steve Canyon

    Warpig minister. Maid of Honor in flats. Hotel conference room wedding venue. Doughy groom. Best man with stubble and a bemused “glad it’s not me” look in the top picture.

    This guy isn’t going to get divorced early on. I don’t think any amount of persuasion is going to help him. He’s living in la-la land. He’ll accept his fate that it’s his duty to stay in a marriage with a control freak that won’t cough up the sexual goods in return. She’ll get baby-rabies when all her friends start squirting kids out, and you’ll next see him sitting in the mall with a dead look on his face, maybe pushing the stroller and schleping purses and bags, while his “wife” loads up on shit from Pier 1 and Kirklands, as well as the clothes to accomodate her ever-widening derriere. Her “Bestie” in flats, if she hasn’t already, will snag a Herb of her own and they’ll trade tips on how to handle their schlubs on weekly girls nights out while their men remain at home and wipe the snot from kids’ noses.

    When he’s 50, he might actually wake up and wonder what the hell happened. But probably not. It’s the husband’s lot to “sacrifice” while his “wife” sucks everything she can out of this “marriage”.

    The best he can hope for is she divorces him and forces him to wake up from his stupor. More likely, she’ll divorce him and he’ll self-flagellate trying to figure out where he went wrong. And he’ll still come to the wrong conclusion.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 10:29 pm Libertardian

      Every time I see one of those dead-eyed geldings pushing his stroller, ten paces behind his land whale, I think “Edvard Munch hadn’t seen shit yet.”

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  72. on June 3, 2013 at 6:47 pm gramps

    The “Big Mistake” is getting married, period. No need for it today. It is only a girl thing. Why be someone’s tool? If you must marry, wait until you are older, and too old for anything else. They all get old and ugly, anyway, so, don’t be in a rush.

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  73. on June 3, 2013 at 6:50 pm senseiern

    We should introduce the Game of Thrones Bedding ceremony where the bride and groom get carried to the bedroom and don’t come out until he has thoroughly fucked her.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm corvinus

      Great idea. Hopefully — hopefully — introducing that tradition would cut down on the rate of women settling for repulsive betas just because they want a wedding.

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  74. on June 3, 2013 at 7:26 pm Prime Alpha

    This has GOT to b a joke or a hoax. Some people marry then betaize and fall apart, meh, but NO WAY someone is so utterly clueless so as to marry and be denied even a kiss on the cheek. Before being nauseated as you would, before getting sick from this apparent display of beta cluelessness and evil female control for who knows what reason, my first thought is complete disbelief. Is there really someone out there that stupid, is there really a girl out there that evil from the get go. I just can’t believe these pics. Heaven help this man if this is true, and if it is, may the girl burn in hell.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 12:09 am Spiralina

      Yeah, there are other pictures someone posted in this thread of them kissing and doing normal wedding picture nonsense.

      I’m guessing this was a hoax picture they took to be funny, since even the most hypergamous bitch isn’t going to ruin the magical princess moment she’s been waiting for her whole life by giving her handsome (beta) prince the cheek. I’m not saying even doing this as a joke isn’t a problem, but some of the comments here are ranging on the….err, hysterical and hyperbolic.

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  75. on June 3, 2013 at 7:33 pm Prime Alpha

    Looking some more at the pics, still in complete disbelief, everyone around them is smilng happy-happy joy-joy smiles (as if watching a real happy moment, which this clearly isnt) as the groom can’t even land a kiss on the bride’s cheek. There is something malevolently wrong with these pics on so many levels. Nothing adds up. What has the world come to. Why is everyone around smiling, why is the bride smiling, what the hell is the groom doing. I’m serious. I can’t understand these pics for the life of me.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 7:40 pm YaReally

      “Why is everyone around smiling, why is the bride smiling, what the hell is the groom doing. I’m serious. I can’t understand these pics for the life of me.”

      This is the fucked up part to me…how everyone will go along with it. Like CH replied up above:

      “for those of us in the know, it was a night of nonstop hilarity watching their eyeplay and lustful rapprochement coordinated under the blank stare of the groom’s oblivious lumpentude. When I told the girl I was with, she rolled her eyes and pleaded with me not to bring it up again. Once the marrying machinery is in motion, the bride’s girl friends will close rank and make sure all peccadillos are swept under the rug so that the show can go on without a hitch.”

      People will just willingly wave and say “You’ll be fine!” to their friend as he walks into a bear cave slathered in honey, just because they don’t want to be the messenger that gets shot, or be the cause of the boat rocking and feel guilty, or know their friend wouldn’t listen to them anyway, or want company in their misery because they fell for the same shit, or they know they’ll get henpecked by all her friends rewriting her slutty history for her, or they’re just as ignorant as the guy covered in honey.

      The Internet existing has been amazing for men. They were finally able to discuss the realities of marriage and compare notes and realize that they weren’t the only ones suffering. Now if we could just get guys to read those discussions BEFORE they go out and buy a ring…

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:46 pm Mitch Cumstein

        Think of all your male buddies you know who got married and how much dialogue there would be if his bride did this to him. You’d hear murmurs of, “Well, that was kinda fuq’d up…” That’s just testament to how beta this guy must be. The whole wedding party seems to be in amazement. “Wow, never mind the kiss…this guy actually GOT a wife…”

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 7:50 pm Divorced Dad

        It’s more complicated than that. And the complication is why male rage is justified. A man simply must go through this stage of life to have kids. It’s the marriage phase. Followed, most likely, by the divorce. He then has to say it was worth it because he got beautiful kids out of the deal. Feminism has given females freedom to be their natural evil selves, as explained on page 3 of the Bible. No fault divorce. But most men are good, contrary to feminist propoganda. They want to get married and they get married, have kids, and are punished by women one way or another, either by divorce and child/divorce theft or by actually having to stay with an aging, horizontally growing, ugly, mean, bitter, bitching fatty. It’s a lose-lose for men either way. In the meantime, men will pay a good chunk of their earnings to see boobs, one way or another, with or without marriage. And yes even you alphas spend more money on chicks that you get back from the deal. Almost all of us.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 4:22 am Troubadour

        [Men who get married] are punished by women one way or another, either by divorce and child/divorce theft or by actually having to stay with an aging, horizontally growing, ugly, mean, bitter, bitching fatty.

        When you get down to it, I think having to stay with a bitter bitching fatty is probably worse than having a cheater file divorce on you. It just makes you question why you’re so miserable more, because you appear, superficially, to be better off than all your buds who got raked over the coals by their wives in divorce court.

        You can’t even win with a foreign bride. I have a buddy who bought one, although it pisses him off to no end to hear it put that way. She has no job, and every penny that ever went through her fingers came from his ass earning it driving a gas truck. She has managed to stash a small fortune in diverted grocery and spending money. He asked her for a loan, and she CHARGED HIM INTEREST, and he PAID IT.

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      • on June 3, 2013 at 8:16 pm Nicole

        Milgram experiment.

        Just that in this case, the shock button has a cooch, and the “subject” is not an actor.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 7:47 pm Dave

      Thank you that’s exactly how I feel about it.

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  76. on June 3, 2013 at 7:37 pm Jason

    I saw a work acquaintance do the exact same thing. She was marrying her guy friend because they had made a “deal” — if they were both still single at 30, they would marry one another.

    She literally flinched when, on the dais, he pecked her chastely on the cheek. I mean, she jerked her head to stage right so fast it should’ve given her whiplash.

    Now, five years later, they have two kids, and she bitches about him constantly.

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  77. on June 3, 2013 at 7:41 pm jazzy hands

    So how about some constructive criticism. What would you advise to Cpt. Blue balls?

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 8:45 pm Patriarch

      Flip around 180 degrees. If he stays on the same path it’s going to end anyway. If she’s going to leave she’s going to leave. Better to be remembered a complete asshole than a Jason, I mean a pussy.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 8:46 pm Prime Alpha

      Run.

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  78. on June 3, 2013 at 7:46 pm Dave

    Why do men have such low self-esteem these days? Why would he put up with that? I know ‘he’s a beta’ but this is historically very abnormal behavior for American men.

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  79. on June 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm necorochi

    Ok so I tried using Plenty of Fish to help with my text game, any advice? Where did I go wrong, was I to much of a Douche,

    Chateau Heartiste please help me.

    So here goes;

    Me: I don’t think we should get to know each other.

    Her: Then why did you message me?

    Me:We just wouldn’t get along, you wouldn’t take my shit, I wouldn’t take yours, etc.

    Her:Okay?

    Me: It’s because were to much alike, who do you think cheats more in relationships girls or guys?

    Her: Both cheat. Not one cheats more than the other.

    Me: Oh my God, girls cheat way more. I read this article on yahoo news yesterday morning at 6:00 and this guy was raising his kid for 2 years, come to find out, it wasn’t HIS.

    Her: And? Do you know how many single moms are out there raising kids on their own? Millions. My mom is one of them.

    Me: Fair, but do you know how many guys are stuck paying child support because their partner sabotaged their condom?

    Me: Case closed.

    Her: There are a lot of those too! Never said there wasn’t. Jesus Christ! Do you get on here just to piss people the fuck off? Honestly!

    Her: I would understand if I messaged you first, but I didn’t! You provoked a damn argument on purpose. No wonder you’re on this site. You can’t find a girl because you’re an inconsiderate prick. I’m on here because I’m bored and in my free time its fun.

    Me: Ha Ha Ha OK, so tell me, what are three things that make you unique?

    Her: ..Why do you ask?

    Me: Well I was curious about you but now I’m just annoyed.

    Her: Your first impression that you gave me was terrible. Why would I want to tell you anything about me, huh? Go read my profile again if you want to know anything, jerk. Bye.

    Brutal Truth me.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 9:50 pm moe jones

      Don’t feed the trolls

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 10:42 pm Jay in DC

      Not CH, but I will tell you my experience after running the gauntlet of online dating for a year or so. You are on the right track but asshole game in online dating particularly is a fucking tightrope that few can walk because you have no -context-, are a complete stranger, and lastly text is a 100% sterile medium where you cannot work her w/ voice inflection, kino, etc. All that being said though… you seem to have the basics down.

      I cannot *tell* you the number of chicks I was able to get on the hook on match.com from just coming at them from a 100% different angle than the typical generic bullshit people write. I was straight up insulting some of them, and my email reply rate went through the roof which is really sick, but not surprising. Of course, YMMV depending on how you look too. If you are Piggy holding the Conch, hang it up. Decent looking or better, you are all set.

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 4:42 pm necorochi

        Thanks.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 10:43 pm yeahokcool

      Kill yourself, Troll.

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    • on June 3, 2013 at 11:10 pm YaReally

      Seemed flawless to me! Lol.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 7:32 am walawala

      Only flaw, you let it go too long and didn’t escalate it.

      You: what are 3 things that make you unique?

      Her: Why do you ask?

      You: You have that look my mom warned me about…

      Her: What?

      You: sweet and cute in public, sex-crazed maniac in private… SEXUALIZE THIS NOW

      Her: blah blah blah

      You: If you promise to behave, we’ll go for a mojito…don’t embarrass me…

      Her: blah blah blah

      You: You’re buying

      then move it to a time and place…

      the first part was classic.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 8:52 pm necorochi

        Me: You have that look my mom warned me about.

        Her: Lmao are you serious

        Me: Sweet and cute in public, sex-crazed maniac in private…

        Her: Wtf lol

        Me: If you promise to behave we’ll go for a drink… Don’t embarrass me…

        Her: Wtf um not a child.

        Me: Your buying.

        Her: No I’m not

        Her: your the man your inviting me or there for you buy

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    • on June 5, 2013 at 3:52 pm necorochi

      “Proof, as if any more were needed, that getting a woman to marry you is not hard. What’s hard is getting a woman to love you.”

      It’s so fucked up because women think that without them we can’t reproduce. Without men they die to. It’s equal. It’s hard to not secretly be a misogynist now a days.

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  80. on June 3, 2013 at 8:17 pm Your Lord & Savior

    see CH u shoulda put my shit through I was the first to comment on the flats 8 hours ago.

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  81. on June 3, 2013 at 8:49 pm Aremo

    This man is a real person – somewhere – and I really really hope someone on this site knows who he is and shows him these comments. Put the little bug in his mind that his wife faithfully and truly does NOT love him. Put the sword into the belly of his own rationalization hamster telling him in his head “oh she was just nervous, her makeup would be smudged for the pictures” etc. You absolutely know that these are the excuses his own wife is thinking up in her head. If he tries to go the distance with this one the only thing that happens is he is a more complete slave. Like Ebenezer Scrooge each month the chains are forged longer and heavier with the ultimate lock box being children. If he bails out now he can leave with only the loss of a few thousand (because of course he paid for everything). Later and he’ll get her student loans for life, alimony, child support for 1-3 kids that likely won’t be his, and her lawyer fees. Cut the rope NOW. Just do it – just walk away.

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  82. on June 3, 2013 at 10:01 pm Ruxman

    Groom has serious muffin top

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  83. on June 3, 2013 at 10:26 pm Dan Fletcher

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  84. on June 3, 2013 at 10:30 pm [S]

    Beta of the year.

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  85. on June 3, 2013 at 10:42 pm Unfair

    Hi all, I am ashley debo. you people got me all wrong!

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  86. on June 3, 2013 at 10:45 pm Dan Fletcher

    Can we get a post on how to steer our bros away from crap marriages?

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  87. on June 4, 2013 at 2:06 am Jason

    OT

    Actor Jesse Eisenberg shows a surprisingly alpha frame in this interview:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2335234/Jesse-Eisenberg-branded-jerk-mocking-blogger-cringe-worthy-interview.html

    Scroll down to the video. He stumbles at :45, but recovers.

    I shouldn’t be surprised, though, after his powerful performance in The Social Network.

    And she’s tingly for sure.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 7:48 am Matthew King

      Eisenberg is obviously hitting on her hard, and she was reciprocating. The misinterpretation of this event — “jerk,” “mocking,” “cringe-worthy” — says everything about how clueless the feminized media is.

      When you see the nervous ball of cute-hot interviewing him, everything makes sense and you say, “oh.”

      Afterwards, even the mamacita interviewer felt it necessary to join the media chorus (which didn’t hurt her attention-whoring bid for clicks), but her heart was clearly not in it. “UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.”

      http://univisionnews.tumblr.com/post/50670415326/behind-the-scenes-of-our-jesse-eisenberg-interview

      Now being ignored, she is fishing for more of the same ol’ time religion:

      http://univisionnews.tumblr.com/post/51822735523/missed-you-at-little-league-practice-jesse-eisenberg

      Miss Puga made it to the Yahoo celebrity wire today, so she will be dealing with a permanent damp spot in her panties, and the more Eisenberg ignores her, the swampier it gets. A few months (weeks? days?) from now it will leak that he quietly flew her out to Hollywood and banged the bejeezus out of her.

      “Jesse Eisenberg isn’t very nice.” Game, set, and snatch.

      It’s rare to see mediocre celebrity flirting and its hypertingled response transcribed for the world to see. Good find.

      Matt

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 12:59 pm YaReally

        “Eisenberg is obviously hitting on her hard, and she was reciprocating. ”

        Heyyyy, you made an accurate read! See? That wasn’t so hard was it? Do more of this “not being wrong” thing lol

        Loved this part:

        R: You know what, just skip it. Let’s skip it. (compliance test to drop it after he won’t immediately jump through the hoop she set)

        J: No, I’ll do it. I’ll do the thing. I just want to know what to give it? (controlling the frame)

        R: Say it like if we just broke up. (falling into his frame, compliance test)

        J: I probably wouldn’t say anything then. (lol’ed hard at this. perfect way to handle the test)

        R: Ok… [C’mon!!] Say it like you’re trying to find me in a crowded place. (frustrated with him but in an attracted way)

        J: Oh ok. Romina [he says it pretty softly.] (complying)

        R: That’s it? (shit-test)

        J: The thing is I didn’t want to find you. I was actually hoping to stay alone. (obliterating shit-test)

        His only problem is that she isn’t smart enough to get his humor or play back with it, because she probably doesn’t have anyone tease her since she’s hot. I run into this a lot because I have a dry/sarcastic/fast/deadpan sense of humor, so if a girl isn’t sharp, she just thinks I’m a jerk or an idiot because the innuendo, nuances, call-back humor, references, etc. I’m tossing out on the fly go over her head.

        Notice she says “When the five minute “interview” (more like self-esteem butchering) were finally over I went behind a curtain to wait for the memory cards from the interview. I peaked around the curtain to ask Jesse about his neighborhood in New York (he lives a few blocks from where I used to live) and he immediately says, “You’re still here?””

        She tries to get rapport with him, even after he was “mean”. If he was a homeless bum on the street who tried to stab her with a heroin needle, she wouldn’t be seeking rapport with him again.

        His problem here is more a lack of calibration to her personality. ie – he’s probably used to being into girls who, and having guy-friends who, can shit-talk back and forth with him, which is why he’s so relentless with her in the interview. He realizes a few times he needs to pull back (“no, no, I’ll do the card trick”), so he’s trying to calibrate, but he probably just doesn’t have that much experience with pickup since he, you know, has other shit to do being a movie star and all. lol So he kind of backs off, but doesn’t lead her into good emotions before going back into it, he just floors the pedal again and ends up in the same situation, again probably expecting her to be able to keep up.

        After the interview, he teases with a “You’re still here?” thinking she’ll get that it’s a tease and that he’s just using call-back humor to reference an in-joke they had in the interview, but she’s, well, not smart enough at that moment to pick up on that and probably a little bit insecure under the hotness and she’s used to everyone telling her she’s a special flower in her world, so while she might objectively be smart enough to pick up on the humor, her brain at that point in time, isn’t in a mode where it’s registering that stuff because it’s clouded with “I feel embarrassed!! I feel too many emotions!!”. Kind of like when someone gets into a fight and just starts wildly throwing haymakers, VS a boxer entering a ring prepared to fight smart. Catch that boxer off guard and he might flail around.

        So I can’t say she’s for sure DUMB, she’s just not in the type of mindset that Jesse’s style gels with and he needed to calibrate down and pull back a bit. Around her older brother, at home on a Sunday afternoon, she might be sharp as fuck…but in the studio where every guy on staff wants to bang her and everyone treats her super special and celebrities probably fawn over her for being hot, and no one will tell her those glasses are ridiculous, she’s riding the Magic Schoolbus where nothing can hurt her and all the flowers wave at her and the sun smiles “hello!”…and then Jesse comes along and shits on the bus lol

        Ideally instead of “You’re still here?”, he’d have turned the teasing off and instead talked about New York and built rapport etc. and basically took two steps back and then went forward slowly, VS the steamrolling forward he was doing.

        Anyway, it’s a good example of passing shit/compliance/hoop tests (like Mystery says, if she gives you a hoop “say my name”, make her jump through a hoop “tell me how to say it” and then it’s fine to comply), and also a good example of how important learning to calibrate on the fly to what the other person is feeling/thinking is.

        Here’s a clip of John Mayer teasing some of his fans;

        He’s got a dry/sarcastic humor, but he has wicked calibration. He knows these girls aren’t genius intellects, and that they’re not in the headspace to go toe to toe with him, so he just keeps things light and he drops in little comments (“you’ll get there when you sell out.”) that us viewers get, but that he knows will go completely over the girls’ heads.

        Contrast that with his interview with Alexa Chung, where he knows he’s dealing with a sharp intellectual equal who’s going to get his humor and be able to play along…so he goes full-tilt with it and knows she can keep up:

        How do you learn this calibration?

        Field Experience. John Mayer has banged a zillion chicks…I’m sure Eisenberg does fine, being a celebrity, but I’d doubt he’s spent as much time flirting with a variety of girls as Mayer has, so naturally he’s not as calibrated.

        Anyway, what do I know. lol

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:25 pm cryo

        Pretty good analysis there. Though it was kind of weird how you acted like that female blogger/journalist/whatever was wicked hot. I’m sure Eisenberg has been around broads that are much more delicious than her.

        Calibration is definitely an important aspect of game, at least if you want to actually get laid. However, I do have fun with brutally taking down dumb bitches, and most of the time the humor is so subtle and dry that these hoes don’t even realize they are being mocked and ridiculed. And to top it all off, I still usually manage to get the bang.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 3:16 pm YaReally

        “Though it was kind of weird how you acted like that female blogger/journalist/whatever was wicked hot”

        Doesn’t matter how hot I think she is. What matters is how hot she thinks she is, and how hot the people around her that she interacts with daily think she is.

        She’s young, cute, skinny, bubbly, and confident enough to interview celebrities. She has 500 guys around her who all think she’s the hottest girl in the world and that she can do no wrong because to them, she is and she can’t.

        Calibrate to the girl and her emotions. You don’t neg an insecure shy 9, and you don’t play softball with a bitchy shit-testing 7.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 5:33 pm Jason

        I love his line at the end when she tries to wrap it up:

        (bemused) “What? You’re on *my* time.”

        Assuming dominance. Well played, Mr. E. I’m going to steal that.

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 6:53 pm Matthew King

        Though it was kind of weird how you acted like that female blogger/journalist/whatever was wicked hot. I’m sure Eisenberg has been around broads that are much more delicious than her.

        Okay, 2/10 Would Not Bang. Romina Puga is a college-aged American Eagle Outfitters model.

        And it is her nervousness and her warmth and, once she relaxed, her eventual hot-chick attitude (“Let’s wrap this up”) that makes her attractive on top of it all. Her voice has that throaty Miami silk to it. She isn’t one more LA bimb starfucker, which probably sparked his interest.

        The real takeaway is to see just how effortless it is for a good looking girl in her prime to equal all the powers that men must labor to bring to the table — fame, charm, confidence, status, resources. All she has to do is sit there, look good, and be a plausible wall for him to bang his shtick off of. And being nervous, a death sentence for him, is a plus for her.

        Eisenberg’s banter was mediocre and halting and too rapid, but then, it doesn’t have to be that great when “she’s on his time,” as he helpfully reminds her.

        Matt

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  88. on June 4, 2013 at 4:04 am Master Beta

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  89. on June 4, 2013 at 4:58 am Piggyback

    Ok ive just returned from 300km trip to fuck girl that is getting married on august.

    I know her for 3 years and shenwas already engaged when i first meet her.

    Shes tezting her boyfriend reassuring him thas shes at home while stroking my dick with her other hand in a hotel room.

    And shes not american cock carousel bitch, we are talking europe poland cute “high schooln sweetharts”.

    She will marry him i will not interupt that but boy i feel sorry for this guy sometimes when im returning from her place 🙂

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  90. on June 4, 2013 at 6:01 am Prime Alpha

    I went to the blog and watched some other pics. In that spesific blog the two evil pics aren’t present, and they are actually kissing full on in another pic, but in another somewhat evil pic from the marrying momen, she is smiling and her teeth are visible as he is kissing her, just like ws said here in the comments (it is commonly known a passionate kiss is with full on lips and usually the eyes are closed, there is something wrong with smiling through your teeth when kissing). Then in more pics they are doing other wedding stuff.

    I really don’t know what to make of this story. There isn’t enough clear info for 100% conclusions. Yes, the 2 evil pics are very evil, yes, the smiling-kiss pics has its problems, but there is other stuff too and we can’t say for sure whats going on. Either this is a joke (itself a slight problem as was said here), or she was really that stupid for a split second and almost gave away the charade.

    For the record, I think it is much more evil to give an actually good show, then go have some bad-boy’s sperm and have the hapless beta hubby raise the bastard. If indeed she dislikes her husband, at least she is giving him signals so he may run away if he picks up on them. The truely evil bitch would not have flinched, and he wouldnt even know about it until he spent his fortune on a child that wasnt his.

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  91. on June 4, 2013 at 6:41 am Australian Escort

    Im appalled at this woman. Fair enough if you are being cute and dodging kisses only to come in for a big one, but actual rejection? Shame! You only get one wedding kiss. How embarrassing.
    As an escort, you wouldnt believe the amount of men I see whom crave to be touched or even kissed by their wives. I give it 2 years before that groom hits the hooker scene if she keeps that crap up.

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  92. on June 4, 2013 at 7:13 am cynthia

    Even if this was a staged shot and during the actual ceremony she kissed him back, doesn’t it still say something pretty friggin’ bad about her? Her sister officiated the ceremony, she thought it was cute to mock her new husband in the humor shots… I guess he could be teasing her, but again, her sister officiated the ceremony. Her fat-ass sister. In what looks like a hotel conference room. There’s so much wrong with this, kiss aside.

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  93. on June 4, 2013 at 7:16 am Kate

    FOOOOOOOOD FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!
    (with wedding cake, of course 🙂 )

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 1:22 pm n/a

      I won’t believe it’s serious until you no longer come here. 😉

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:49 pm Kate

        The only way I *could* still come here is *if* it was serious 😉

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 7:33 pm Matthew King

        Ooooo. Kate and n/a sitting in a tree…

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm n/a

        No man, it’s just me and an apple up there; but she’s free to take it if she likes. 😉

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 2:07 pm n/a

        Alright, kiddo, we’ll see.–

        It’s just that any truly smitten woman should turn in exasperated disgust from all other men the moment *he* makes his presence known.

        Never trust a man who doesn’t care about your extracurricular antics; he may be convenient, compatible and amiable, but a man who isn’t insanely jealous of his woman’s least attentions and affections is above all one thing and that’s most definitely not in love.

        But if you only require something short of that ridiculous intensity then you may well be doing just fine. I always told you beta is the way.–

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 2:42 pm Kate

        I’m slightly more evolved than to need to express disgust with people I knew before. Experiences of good fortune make me want to share the happiness and help others find theirs, not turn from those who have been kind to me. I’m not 18, n/a 😉 I know my boundaries and can be trusted to stay easily within them.

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 3:03 pm n/a

        Kate it’s not a process of thought but a movement in the viscera. A woman in love abandons the world for one man. A great irresistible and irrevocable turning away from everything and everyone, but him.

        I write so extravagantly here only because of your many verys.

        And I know you’re not 18 Kate because if you were and were anything like you are now I would’ve found you and *stuck* you.–

        You’re a good chick so I wish you well.

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 3:58 pm Kate

        I am well aware of what you describe. I’ve already said several goodbyes. I still have a little time before I go completely under, but not much. And I don’t think there would be anything wrong with me re-emerging from time to time to weigh in. I don’t think its necessary to toss out all of the old to make room for the new. I still go back to old haunts now and again when I have time to try to offer perspective. Its what you do when you’ve made it across. You hold out your hand to pull someone else over.

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 5:06 pm n/a

        Kate,

        I’m not saying this abandonment must happen; I’m just saying it is the brutal sine qua non of a woman’s love.

        Hell I like having you around.–

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      • on June 6, 2013 at 8:37 pm Kate

        I consider myself a very passionate person in several aspects. But I don’t think its wise to forget about one’s friends and one’s interests to be totally consumed by another person. Old folk like me can love in steadier fashion such that the candle doesn’t burn out quickly. Or the relationship doesn’t collapse under the pressure of suddenly being the sole source of happiness. Of course, things can’t be exactly the same. As long as everyone understands that I am completely committed to this person, I think I can still come and chat now and then 🙂

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      • on June 7, 2013 at 11:36 am n/a

        I understand that you are completely committed. 😉

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 1:53 pm Kate

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      • on June 4, 2013 at 2:16 pm Jim

        white chicks love this stuff. my ex GF posts this kind of stuff to her FB constantly

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  94. on June 4, 2013 at 7:36 am Just Saying

    “I knew a guy who was fucking the bride (he wasn’t the groom) ”

    Been there, done that… It amazes me that so many men are such chumps. Heck, I was riding the bride bareback only hours before he was with his virginal bride for the first time. I have sent so many women down the aisle carrying my load that it’s become blase’ – it used to turn me on, but women are such skanks these days that I’ve come to expect it of them – I could be anyone. Heck, I’ve met women who were getting married and fucked them within hours of meeting – one within hours of meeting her at her at the dinner for the wedding party – I was the date for one of brides’ maids and had the blushing bride six ways to Sunday the night before. That’s why the groom can’t see the bride the night before – she’s pulling a train with as many guys as she can.;

    This is why I tell everyone I know – get a DNA test when she tells you the little bastard she’s carrying is yours… It probably isn’t… Heck, I’ve done the bride and her mother – that was a kick, but Mom was still a hot piece and needed to be drilled…

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 10:42 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      “That’s why the groom can’t see the bride the night before – she’s pulling a train with as many guys as she can.”

      CHOOO-CHOOOOOO!

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  95. on June 4, 2013 at 9:01 am MercifulBoss

    A situation like this happened to a beta friend of mine. He slapped her lightly, took his hand and forced her to kiss him. His mooment of alpha. They had great sex after.

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  96. on June 4, 2013 at 10:15 am AndrewFoxRussell

    I am sick of people using the word “Bachelorette”, an unmarried Man is called a Bachelor, an unmarried woman is a Spinster. Women choose not to use the word spinster as it has negitive connotations and opt for the word Bachelor-ette as it is seen to have a more positive association.

    Do not let the word Bachelor be marred by the hamster trying to live as if she was a Man.

    Definition of spinster ( as per Oxford dictionary)
    noun

    An unmarried woman, typically an older woman beyond the usual age for marriage.

    Derivatives

    spinsterhood
    noun
    spinsterish
    adjective

    Origin:

    late Middle English (in the sense ‘woman who spins’): from the verb spin + -ster; in early use the term was appended to names of women to denote their occupation. The current sense dates from the early 18th century

    Given that todays womans Hamster spins like a tornado never has there been a more fitting word.

    Just as I go out of my way to correct anyway who refers to me as a boy, guy, dude as I am a Man, I will insist on correcting anyone who refers to an unmarried woman as anything less than a spinster!!

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 10:34 am Greg Eliot

      Given that todays womans Hamster spins like a tornado never has there been a more fitting word.

      Never thought about it that way… good catch.

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  97. on June 4, 2013 at 10:50 am peckerwood

    I don’t know. I see what’s being said but the guy looks like a Chris Pratt type of big lug who intentionally smothers people with overbearing displays. Thereby projecting physical dominance with the expected mock recoil the bride is showing. Like the Pratt character in 10 years. Maybe the bride should be scared that he would be such a jerk so as to ruin her big kissy kiss moment with physical comedy/dominance.

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  98. on June 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm Butch Cassidy

    The bridesmaids are wearing white Toms shoes. Pretty sure the bride is too. These people are all hipstery SWPL fucks and that explains everything- the past, present, and the inevitable future.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 12:22 pm Patriarch

      Good observation.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm peckerwood

      I guess so. We make fun of materialistic girls here but how could you trust chicks who won’t dress up on a wedding day? The most dressiest day ever. It’s unnatural. Burn these witches.

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  99. on June 4, 2013 at 12:20 pm Lovekraft

    Reality shows about pirahna brides and their weddings are nothing more than warning signs for the rest of us.

    Anyone unable to see these shallow, self-centered phonies for what they are are beyond saving IMO.

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  100. on June 4, 2013 at 12:23 pm Recently Sober

    Any posts on Game for the recently sober?

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    • on June 6, 2013 at 7:26 am Social Cream

      Try Krauser Daygame

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  101. on June 4, 2013 at 12:51 pm Daniel

    The picture on my 2 inches early 2000 phone was minuscle, but it filled me with all bad sensations known to mankind

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  102. on June 4, 2013 at 1:13 pm Slang

    You know, I just noticed that even the brides maid is arching her back, and leaning away from the interaction.

    That, and the phony too wide smile on her face, clearly indicate a feeling of unease, and a desire for escape.

    You can even kind of make out a sneer around the nose.

    I like these body language type posts.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 1:37 pm Jim

      that’s how women stand when not in heels

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      • on June 5, 2013 at 6:55 am Slang

        no…….its not

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    • on June 5, 2013 at 11:18 am not_PC

      This is what John Quincy Adams said:

      “From all that I have read of history and government of human life and manners, I have drawn this conclusion, that the manners of women were the most infallible barometer to ascertain the degree of morality and virtue of a nation.”

      And this is what Susan B. Anthony said:

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  103. on June 4, 2013 at 1:18 pm Wedding Pro

    Just a note… These two pictures were taken following the actual first kiss. Their first kiss was just like every other wedding I’ve been to. This was a reaction going in deeper.

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    • on June 4, 2013 at 1:21 pm peckerwood

      see that’s what I was thinking, that this was a Look At ME, I’m a Big Dumb Loveable Lug Who Will Invade Your Space In an Alpha Manner, Chris Pratt style, on the part of the groom. And the wifey was taking on her role by being all reacting to it the way she did, like as if a big dumb dog was slobbering all over her.

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  104. on June 4, 2013 at 1:32 pm chris

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pop-psych/201306/when-and-why-is-discrimination-acceptable

    “Thankfully, there is some research we can bring to bear on the matter. The research comes from a paper by Tetlock et al (2000) who were examining what they called “forbidden base rates” – an issue I touched on once before. In one study, Tetlock et al presented subjects with an insurance-related case: an insurance executive had been tasked with assessing how to charge people for insurance. Three towns had been classified as high-risk (10% chance of experiencing fires or break-ins), while another three had been classified as low-risk (less than 1% chance). Naturally, you would expect that anyone trying to maximize their risk-to-profit ratio would change different premiums, contingent on risk. If one is not allowed to do so, they’re left with the choices of offering coverage at a price that’s too low to be sustainable for them or too high to be viable for some of their customers. While you don’t want to charge low-risk people more than you need to, you also don’t want to under-charge the high-risk ones and risk losing money. Price discrimination in this example is a good thing.

    The twist was that these classifications of high- and low-risk either happened to correlate along racial lines, or they did not, despite their being no a priori interest in discriminating against any one race. When faced with this situation, something interesting happens: compared to conservatives and moderates, when confronted with data suggesting black people tended to live in the high-risk areas, liberals tended to advocate for disallowing the use of the data to make profit-maximizing economic choices. However, this effect was not present when the people being discriminated against in the high-risk area happened to be white.

    In other words, people don’t seem to have an issue with the idea of using useful data to discriminate amongst groups of people itself, but if that discrimination ended up affecting the “wrong” group, it can be deemed morally problematic. As Tetlock et al (2000) argued, people are viewing certain types of discrimination not as “tricky statistical issues” but rather as moral ones. The parallels to our initial example are apparent: even if discriminating on the basis of obesity could provide us with useful information, the act itself is not morally acceptable in some circles. Why people might view discrimination against obese people morally offensive itself is a separate matter. After all, as previously mentioned, people tend to have no moral problems with tests like GRE that discriminate not on weight, but other characteristics, such as working memory, information processing speeds, and a number of other difficult to change factors. Unfortunately, people tend to not have much in the way of conscious insight into how their moral judgments are arrived at and what variables they make use of (Hauser et al, 2007), so we can’t just ask people about their judgments and expect compelling answers.”

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  105. on June 4, 2013 at 2:06 pm chi-town

    A tractable gelding, blind and guided by the sting of his red and swollen welts.

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  106. on June 4, 2013 at 7:16 pm al

    maybe she’s mentally ill ……..

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  107. on June 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm Tinderbox

    The REAL big mistake will be reproducing with that woman and being stuck for 18 years in a sexless marriage.

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  108. on June 6, 2013 at 7:24 am Social Cream

    He should have let her drop to the floor then walked out with a big ass smile.

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  109. on June 10, 2013 at 6:35 am blogster

    This kind of thing is even visible in music film clips. Noel Gallagher formerly of British rock band Oasis fame, with his new band:

    All the classic elements: eternal longing for rugged alpha cowboy, reluctant marriage to beta provider, clearly alpha father and the extreme distaste when kissing her to-be husband at the altar. And the visible pupil dilation and obvious panty wetting when alpha cowboy interrupts the wedding ceremony to claim her.

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