Readers have been writing to express their gratitude ever since the CH “Dread” post was published, which advised men in loveless relationships to become more aloof and unavailable as a means of reigniting their women’s desire for them.
Women respond viscerally in their vagina area to unpredictability, mixed signals, danger, and drama in spite of their best efforts to convince themselves otherwise. Managing your relationship in such a way that she is left with a constant, gnawing feeling of impending doom will do more for your cause than all the Valentine’s Day cards and expertly performed tongue love in the world. Like it or not, the threat of a looming breakup, whether the facts justify it or not, will spin her into a paranoid estrogen-fueled tizzy, and she’ll spend every waking second thinking about you, thinking about the relationship, thinking about how to fix it. Her love for you will blossom under these conditions. Result: she works harder to please you.
The bitterboy haters really swooned with indignation after reading that post, feeling deep in their bones that anything less than flowers and constant supplication was the only way a man should act if he wanted to revive a flagging relationship. Hundreds of testimonials to the contrary would not convince them. Theirs is a Hallmark world, and goddamnit it’s going to stay a Hallmark world.
By why heed your real world experiences and the wisdom of CH when you can wait for CREDENTIALED EXPERTS to give you the go-ahead to try something new and daring with your life?
But the [female] rationale [for wanting sex] I’d like to focus on here is one that’s rarely alluded to in the literature: namely, a woman’s wanting sex–and at times desperately so–out of fear that her partner may be on the verge of leaving her. That is, she may actively pursue her spouse sexually to help deal with powerful feelings of anxiety, stemming from her intuition or knowledge that her relationship is in jeopardy–fragile, teetering, or on the brink of collapse.
The woman’s apprehension about a possible break-up may derive from her partner’s broadly hinting that he wants out of the relationship or, in fact, from his directly informing her of his intentions to move out and file for divorce. Or it’s possible she might suspect that he’s having an affair; or (because of the vast emotional distance separating them) that he’s actually fallen in love with someone else and, on that account, secretly planning to desert her. In a panic about it all–especially if she still feels devoted to him, or there are children involved and she’s frantic to keep the family together at all costs–she may be desperate to initiate sex to feel less helpless, as well as to exert some control over (and hopefully alter) her husband’s errant, non-loving behavior toward her. […]
As a consequence of her distress, or anguish, she’s strongly impelled to prompt a heated sexual encounter whereas previously she may have shown ambivalence, apathy, or even a marked antipathy toward making love with her partner. Withdrawn and quite possibly sexually shut down, in the bedroom she may take on the role of “aggressor”–or, probably a better term, “seductress.” […]
Ironically, the sex that can emerge from the considerable trepidation and anxiety I’ve been describing can be unusually passionate. Though I’ve already characterized such sex as “fear-inspired,” the very intensity of this fear can transform itself into substantially heightened sexual arousal — such that the end result of lovemaking can be electrically charged (what noted sex therapist, David Schnarch, actually refers to as “wall socket sex”!). It’s as though, ironically, the woman’s pronounced fear of abandonment renders her capable of having more abandoned sex than she may have been capable of before.
As we say in the business — Game. Set. Snatch.
Le Chateau ahead of the curve, again. A little bit of fear and dread will motivate a sexually retreating woman to joyfully spread for the sake of committed love. To put it in even more concise terms: Do the opposite of a beta male.
Dread is essentially a form of the scarcity principle, producing effects in the sexual market similar to the effects seen in the economic market when an in-demand good is in short supply. Not only will calculated doses of dread revitalize relationships, but it will also allow average men to date much hotter women than they would be expected to date by the dunderhead masses.
Maxim #55: A man can shoot way out of his league if he acts as if he is the one occupying the higher league.
Dread, or fear-inspired romance, is not a relationship cure-all. An average man can keep a level-headed hottie on a string for about six months using nothing but anxiety-inducing seduction techniques, but beyond the six month mark fissures will begin to erupt. Women’s hindbrains can fry from too much sustained anxiety, and past that point relationship management with a beautiful woman becomes more difficult, requiring more emotional investment from the man. Accepting this reality, the man will usually opt for gaudy beta displays of commitment, and as if on cue this will cause the hottie to reevaluate her relationship options.
Given the long-term risks of overuse, dread is still the winning move for the average man. Just as five minutes of alpha > five years of beta for women, six months of sex with a hot babe > ten years of sex with a plain jane for men.
The best news is that dread is exceptionally effective as a tool to coax hot sex from a woman if you are within an already established relationship, such as marriage. The trick to keeping the bedsheets stained with poos joos is the subtle application of intermittent dread, which releases your woman’s anxiety just long enough that she swings wildly between cuddly comfort and ravenous restlessness. Sustained dread is better when you’ve started dating a girl, and particularly the types of eye-catching girls who get propositioned on the daily.

No relation to the post, but thought this was funny. My one buddy who is pretty alpha had a hot chick post this on his Facebook wall the other day:
“I have a bruise on my head from a certain someone who threw a piece of ice at me to get my attention .. You couldn’t have aimed somewhere else? Lol”
His response: you shoulda looked up when i was throwing the smaller ones.. snooze ya lose!
Hahaha. Reminded me of a solid game technique. Picking up chicks by throwing stuff at them. I’ve seen it in action multiple times and as long as it is playful and done with a grin of self amusement it is GOLD
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that was something i actually used effectively (relatively, for me) for a while. the key for me was you throw shit like ice or peanut shells, and when she turns around you are happily looking right at her and point at yourself like ‘yeah that was me’. it’s not a trick, you were trying to hit her.
there were times i didn’t even have to get up, they’d come over and ask who i thought i was or whatever, and then i was probably nice and blew it mostly.
but anything that makes them think ‘who does this guy think he is’ is generally pretty good.
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No Question it works. I remember a year ago I was starting to get involved with this chick that was clearly out of my league….just a total smoke show. How I hooked her?? By total accident. She emailed me one day some joke that got caught up in my spam filter. I didn’t get the email so there was no response. THe next afternoon she emails me in a panic wondering why she hasn’t heard from me… I was like “am i suppose to check in?” She was was like “you didn’t respond to my joke” and i was like “what joke.?” then i figured out her email was in my spam filter.
My not responding created the dread which allowed me to blow my salami insider her the entire weekend.
Works wonders.
I think i’ve alrady mentioend the cupacke trick that my buddy uses every once in a while. Where he brings home cakes and treats from work and then hsi wife asks him who gave him those and he says “some girl named Shannon at work,”…and then he says nothing and goes off to take a shower.
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Are you reminding us how clever you are?
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That cupcake/Shannon/shower trick is golden. I’m going to borrow that.
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The days when women used to sing swooning songs in a duet with the men being Alpha are dead but never dreaded ;D
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You write:- “Women respond viscerally in their vagina area to unpredictability, mixed signals, danger, and drama in spite of their best efforts to convince themselves otherwise”.
The other night I commented on here about Liberace, having just seen the film Behind The Candelabra.
Liberace appealed to women but, objectively and even by the standards of then, anyone could see that he was the biggest fairy who had fallen off the Christmas tree. So what was his huge appeal?
Primarily his mixed signals – had Liberace fully come out as a fag, it would have slayed the dragon of his mystery. Throughout all his shows he consistently lamented “not finding the right woman” (* dies laughing *). In the late 1970’s and early 1980’s he introduced his chauffeur, Scott Thorson, but did not say that they were co-habiting lovers.
Scott, despite all his horseshit, fucked up his life after he ended with Liberace. Liberace was the best thing that ever happened to him – think of the women who orbited Bill when he was in the White House. Liberace knew this when he asked Scott to get facial surgery etc. not to change his appearance so much as to assert Liberace’s control. Scott was always free to go – but to where? Think Monica Lewinsky …
The danger and drama were inherent in his ruthless self-belief which he expressed through immense bling. Who has inherited that mantle these days? The rappers.
Liberace was, believe it or not, a bad boy. Anyone reading between the lines of his act would have inferred this soon enough. The chicks really dug it because he put their hamster into orbit with a combination of love for his (ghastly) mother and simultaneous innuendo about anal sex.
It is sad to look at pics of Liberace and Scott together in their heyday because, as a fag myself, I can recognise the genuine love and friendship they had for each other during that time. The film Behind the Candelabra successfully captures this. It is, I think, a distinguishing feature of love between two men as opposed to between a man and a woman.
Liberace was highly alpha – he very seriously did not give a fuck what anyone thought of him but simultaneously was aware of the power of perception (and this is an omission many otherwise high alphas make – perception matters).
Liberace had full control of the perception others had of him – he was one of the most innovative popular entertainers ever, taking classical piano music across a huge rubicon and selling it incredibly well to ordinary blue-collar Americans. Once again, I invoke the rappers – bling, bad-boy, popular appeal.
Liberace was likeable. He had a real rapport with his audiences which could not have been faked and this was because they felt that – yes! – he was one of them. George W Bush recreated this excellently as well. (And, particularly over here in Europe, many ignore what a serious and substantial character Dubya really is – Tony Blair, another underestimated politician, always understood Bush).
Both Dubya and Liberace were charmers who combined a certain amount of narcissism with a healthy self-deprecation but who could turn very tough to suit themselves whenever they wanted.
Liberace was highly highly promiscuous right up to his death and it is this which killed him. But how many beta men would love a fraction of the life he had
So, as I wrote the other night, RIP Liberace.
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Faggot.
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i doubt the guy needs any defense but come on. for one it was an interesting post with no grammar errors. for two is there anything less threatening for heterosexual males than homosexual males? a lot of them could really clean up if they chose, their attitudes with women can be instructive for us, and aside from that, i mean just come on.
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‘I mean come on.’ We’ve found another ‘wow. Just wow.’ If it’s of merit he can email it to CH instead of hijacking his blog… Twice. But guess what. No one here seems interested in gay guy game even if it parallels hetero pick-up. Now I had to scroll through it twice.
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So don’t. Proves you read it, anyway.
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What also makes me laugh is that it is obvious that so few of the posters here know what it’s like to post on gay websites (obviously).
If you want to see threads being hijacked, abuse, bullshit, psychopathy, lies, scandal, intrigue, drama, bombast, threats and all the rest, check out a gay chatroom.
Actually, do – it’s a bloody good laugh.
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wrong, I read Realmatt and laughed, then read late late late bloomer
i couldn’t get all the way through your comments
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As with certain other [heavily overlapping] groups, it is best to assume that everything a faggot says is a lie intended to produce some pernicious effect.
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+1… a solid point, well-put, and oft-forgotten.
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But how do you know that I’m not a faggot, and a Cretan to boot?
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You don’t register on the gaydar… and I could give fuck all if you’re from Crete. 😉
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The only emotions Dregs Elliot allows himself are anger and disgust. He is a hero among emotional Pygmys. Wait, I shouldn’t insult Pygmys.
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Oh shit, Greg has a dedicated YKW operative! I feel shamed in comparison.
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Several… gaze upon my works and despair!
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Greg Eliot only takes up space. He has nothing to offer besides idiotic comments he thinks are clever. Oh, and let’s not forget how jealous he is of the tribe for their genius, wealth, and IQ. Can anyone be more pathetic…..
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Steve is right. We can’t all have our dicks sucked by a mohel.
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Yes
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Nice. I wonder if Freddie Mercury ever creditied him as an influence.
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Would you believe, I think he really did?
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I’m as straight as they come, and I found Chris’ post to be excellent and insightful. We guys can work together even if we do have different preferences in whom we game. I never happened to like what LIberace did to classical piano music (basically he made it blingy and boring, not his dress but the way he changed the music take out the best parts) but mine is not the opinion that mattered.
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Fairy.
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I should have finished the point; Liberace was aloof. Scott could pack his fuckin bags any time he wanted. The relationship eventually failed because Scott (the younger by 40 years) couldn’t handle Liberace’s wild promiscuity.
Look, if I can fuck like Liberace did into his late SIXTIES, then I won’t be doing too bad!
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haha did you watch that one HBO yesterday, too
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No, HBO is not available in Ireland.
I paid ten euros and watched it in a real cinema.
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Christ, how about toning down the faggotry a bit? The hint of mint in the air is becoming stifling.
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Dregs, it would be a step up from the animals in your barn if you started in with men.
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Animals are a step up from chopped liver, Portnoy.
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Matthew, are you lonely? We can have a One World Operative cheering on your wingnut spasms too!
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Heh heh, you said “spasm”.
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Heh, heh… chopped liver/Portnoy… nothin’ like a burn that hoists ’em on their own petards.
Well-done.
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Hell… make that by their own petards.
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Dregs, it would be a step up from the animals in your barn if you started in with men.
What is it with you Yehudi cogdis trolls and the homoerotic references?
Geez, try NOT to be such stereotypes, for a change.
You fairy.
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“But it’s my only line!”
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I see the Chateau as dealing with many intersecting issues. Furthermore, and it need hardly be reiterated, being an alpha male is not an exclusive domain of heterosexuals. If you want to see all the bombast and nonsense of poon, visit a gay bar. This is also where you will see the sexual market at, by far, its cruellest.
An alpha male can be gay. Also, we tend to be far more immune to women and their shit tests, especially crying.
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Heh heh, you said “intersecting”.
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Hint of mint?
Not quite – most fags, especially the hot young guys, have really bad breath.
It’s a recognised phenonemon. Don’t ask me why
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Feh.
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It’s not that our “hindbrains fry from too much sustained anxiety.” Whether you choose to give us some credit for being self-aware creatures capable of rational thought or not, I can assure you that we get sick of being yanked around on a very conscious level.
[CH: You just repeated what I said., albeit in less hypnotically florid terms.]
Personally, I assume he’s “just not that into me” by the second unreturned phone call or the second flagrantly dick move if it’s someone relatively new (six months or less).
Oh, it’s true: it does make the hamster spin. I’ll spend a couple of days, maybe even a couple of weeks, wondering what the hell happened. But I’ll be doing that quietly in my own head, after I’ve deleted his contact information from every platform I’ve got.
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Not exactly…hindbrain |= forebrain.
Now, I agree that there are some women out there who love drama. I’ve blinked sleepily through their 2 a.m. phone calls while they cried about their shiftless boyfriends for the umpty-tumpth time, held their hair while they puked up too many “post-breakup” appletinis, and then had them ditch plans with me at the last second to go bring him da moviezz.
I don’t hang out with girls like that anymore. Girls who love drama are a pain in the ass. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to…
…oh, wait. You’re dudes.
Carry on.
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“I don’t hang out with girls like that anymore. Girls who love drama are a pain in the ass. I can’t imagine why anyone would want to…”
Price of admission. All girls love drama, it’s just that some aren’t able to have the assets to actually have guys put up with it. Although, this attitude is tiresome and toxic.
Because we have outfitted women’s hamster in a fashion befitting a Russian Cosmonaut and launched into the deepest reaches of self esteem space, the cunty behavior is now seen as a status symbol. So now normal women mimic this behavior even through it causes their own demise.
Is it really so hard to see that acting feminine makes you stand out from the pack and greatly increases your odds of locking down high value when you have some type of looks? It’s just so damn simple. Guys have multiple points of attraction to work on, all of them hard, while all women have to do is don’t get fat and don’t be a bitch. If that’s not an hard solid proof of how batshit insane women are I don’t know what is. They simply can’t do it. At the beginning they can manage but once they are settled it’s off to the races with trips to the Shittest Derby, Bitchness Stakes, and the Cuntmont Stakes.
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Price of admission. This
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Wow, you indict like a Federal Prosecutor, Ferret. Nice Salvo!
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Heh heh, you said “dict”.
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Well, you’re a freemartin so we can assume that you’re more like a dude than most women.
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How did I never know what a freemartin was until now? Thanks, corvinus (and Google)!
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Haha, something tells me that’s staying in the lexicon here
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Man makes generalization about women, woman responds “I’m not like that”. Looks like you are a typical woman after all.
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[…] heartiste.wordpress.com […]
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aloof game is tits. been running self-deprecation game for as long as i can remember. it works very well as long as it’s humorous.
http://dannyfrom504.com/2013/04/22/self-deprecation-game/
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i’m very tall and i do something similar. i sort of think the height makes the tiny wiener jokes go over because they assume it’s a joke, and i think your initial hog comment does something similar.
it’s a nice disqualifier to simultaneously start talking about sex but in a way that they can’t get upset about. so like if i’m getting a non-sexual compliment about whatever i will say something like ‘unfortunately i’m terrible in the sack so don’t get too excited’ or ‘if i didn’t suffer from micropenis all that would be great’.
anyway i’m sure there are downsides but it’s fun and they assume it’s not true, unless you really harp on it i suppose or are just a sad sack.
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every woman i’ve told that to replied, “ok, now i know you’re hung.” which isn’t really true, i’m 5’4″ for fucks sake. any time you can make sexual banter women will bite.
it’s just most guys do it wrong and creep girls out.
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Caller phoned 999 to tell police his prostitute was ugly
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4967115/Caller-phoned-999-to-tell-police-his-prostitute-was-ugly.html
A spokesman for West Midlands Police said: “A 999 call was received by police at around 7:30pm on Tuesday evening from a man wishing to complain about a sex worker he had met on a hotel car park.
“The caller claimed that the woman had made out she was better looking than she actually was and he wished to report her for breaching the Sale of Goods Act.”
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“But beforehand I have asked for a description of her – give me an honest description otherwise when I get there I’m not going to use your services.
“She’s mis-described and misrepresented herself totally.
“She was angry – she thinks I owe her a living or something.”
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“She was angry – she thinks I owe her a living or something.”
How’s that different from any other woman? zlozlzzl
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Needed this. Got the 2nd bang w the 19 yr old i mentioned in a previous post. think i may have gotten a tad soft on her later that evening after the sex. she didnt blow me off entirely, but in a quick exchange thru text the next day (after the bang) i did a little callback thing to stuff we were talking about…something kinda cutesy. Nothing crazy…but she just never responded.
Its interesting because she did this before, and i got the second bang. But this girl really responds to terse, aloof shit. I think she just wants the straight up asshole. Like the moment she thinks ive lost interest she hits me up to hang. So im just going dark for a bit….dont see another option.
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Do the beta shit when she’s thirty. 19? You can’t be too much of an asshole.
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you’re on the right (depressing) track. you’ll feel the pull to let yourself be yourself and relax and be nice. take it from costanza– do the opposite.
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think i oughta go dark? i was tempted to send a gbfm style “lotza cockz for your butholelzlzlz”. its been three days but eh lol
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jsust ebe dusr eto spellez lostas cokas right and you will do fineenz lzlzllzzozoz
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Hot 19 year olds dread guys falling in love with them more than the Herp. Jeez, at least the Herp would keep guys from getting all, you know, like EMOTIONAL. Eeeeeew.
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And non-responding is the hardest thing to do when you’re in LURV.
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Hot blond chicks wear a look on their face now like low-class punks spoiling for a fight did in the 1950s. Perfect bone structure, wasted.
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I would think that 19 year old dreads would be fairly stanky.
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JEEZZ you’re COUNTING THE DAYS. Next thing you know, you’ll be masturbating in the Subway when the Catholic Schoolgirls go home.
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yeah im so aloof my womens beg it in ass in a back alley behind plantparenthood hahahahahahahha
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Yeah im so aloof many womens of many races crave my Morcilla (Blood sausage) hahahahahahahaha
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Im so aloof many womens crave my precious bodily fluids hahahahahahaha
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+111… never gets old.
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You need to add a “your mileage may vary” statement here. Some women may respond to aloofness by trying to win back their man with sex, but not all will.
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If the aloofness is abrupt, is perceived to be a reaction, and follows years of being a contemptible beta, then yes, you will fail. You saying ‘your mileage may vary’ does not negate the whole premise of fundamental female instincts. It merely says you yourself may not be able to pull it off. I for one can attest to the power of aloofness.
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This is a newbie question: I have a hard time implementing this. Specifically, I have a hard time reconciling the difference between being agressive and aloof. If I’m aloof in the beginning, I seem to loose, because girls tend to think I’m not interested at all. if I’m agressive, I give away my position, which in it self is a loosing tactic. So, where and how does an aloof attitude fit into the structure of pickup? I apprecieate any thoughts on helping me get past this.
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I understand how this can work within a relationship. What I’m having a hard time grasping is how to use this at the very beginning of the pickup…
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Aloof is not uninterested, unengaged in the process or pompous.
Aloof is indifferent to outcome. Your not afraid to lose her. She is one of many. Treat her like a fat co-worker…it’s easy. Its an internal attitude.
This will help, study it. – https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/relationship-game-the-day-to-day-alpha/
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You say whatever you want to say. I’ve had reactions range from smiling to terrified…but my state of mind didn’t change. The point is you are amusing yourself.
It’s true your opener really doesn’t matter as long as it isn’t garbage about worshiping how pretty her makeup and push up bra looks.
If there is an avenue you can learn from…watch stand up comedians. Patrice O’Neal, Bill Burr, Jim Norton, Christopher Titus, etc. They say whatever they want to and act amused the whole time.
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All about finding a balance between the two, it will come eventually. If implemented correctly being aggressive should NEVER be a losing tactic. You want them to know you want to bang, but also want them to know that you have plenty of other alternatives, all based on your own whimsy. Some nights you’re on, some nights you’re off, but if you treat learning game like learning any other skill you will slowly develop to the point of “supreme flow” where you are a liquid contortionist, capable of realizing in real time what needs to be done and adjusting accordingly. Read the defense and call the right play to score.
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Hey Heartizzzeee Hearzizize Hearisileste!!!! check out this fattie. her “boobs” caused her a problem, not that she’s a manatee zlozlzozozlzl http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/06/04/dnt-wa-breasts-too-big-for-prom.komo#/video/us/2013/06/04/dnt-wa-breasts-too-big-for-prom.komo
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Have to say it.
“Do these pants make my butt look big?”
“Do I look like a whale in this dress?”
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It seems inherently difficult to be a chaser while being aloof. Glad I don’t have to do it. Over here, I take hours to respond to everyone’s texts.
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“It seems inherently difficult to be a chaser while being aloof.”
Exactly my problem.
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This is my understanding — aloof just means you are unafraid to break rapport. You can risk a negative reaction because, for whatever reason, you don’t -need- her validation.
real interaction differences—>
7: What do you do?
Me: I work at Mcdonald’s
7: Bullshit, just tell me where you work already
Me: Hahah, sorry yeah I just got done with grad school and…….
(So afraid to risk any sort of negative reaction from her that I cave and try to seek out good feels. I did this a few times when I was first doing the ‘BS’ answer to what do you do)
vs.
7: What do you do?
Me: Well, it’s a pretty high-up position….you know Taco Bell? Yeah…..they let me cut the lettuce there
7: OMG, bullshit you don’t work at Taco Bell…tell me where you work already
Me: Psssssh….see if you get any of my lettuce….
7:…Tell me! Tell me now!
Me: Settle down. Jesus.
(real interaction from the other day)
I agree. It -is- hard to pull off. I’m starting to hit a ton of moments where it flows, but that’s between the screwups. So yeah, you -chase- and get some rapport. Then, once you have it…you just treat it like you don’t care about it.
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Did you forget how to change a subject?
‘that’s bullshit, tell me what you do’
‘later, that reminds me of…’
It does not have to be a logical segue. The more interesting directions you go in the better. Hours later she’ll realize you never told her and she won’t get you out of her mind.
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Yes it is indeed inherently difficult to be a man.
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Think Brando vs Sheen in Apocalypse Now. Brando wanted the saucier dead, and he accomplished it theatrically, but he exuded outcome independence. Sheen needed Brando dead, and he got Doors-song-as-soundtrack obsessed with it.
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You say whatever you want to regardless of outcome. I’d say the lone exception is don’t verbally vomit how wonderful her makeup or push up bra looks. The whole point is that you are amused all the time.
In fact watch some good stand up comedians…Patrice O’Neal, Bill Burr, Tim Norton, Christopher Titus, etc. Watch their demeanor.
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you’re a kid in a candy store. the kid is aloof because he’s not gonna get upset if he can’t get that ONE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE candy since there are hundreds of other types of candy to choose from. in other words, aloofness follows from abundance mentality
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Amusing read… http://www.idatedthatdouche.com/
They just cant forget.
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Wow that site is depressing. Provides examples of everything CH covers here. Dud you read much of it? Too many examples to list here and no CH reader needs me to point it out, but notice that half the time the behavior that leads to woman’s “douche” label is alpha pump n dump but half is beta. A key point is that after the breakup a woman’s hamster must make the woman hate the man and be monster in her mind. Can’t be just that things didn’t work. Every man has dated numerous “douche” women by their criteria. On mobile or I’d explain Better.
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I kind of recall a story where a famous (and good looking) actress called her ex boyfriend a “loser”. Hilarious.
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Yeah that (depressing) website gives one a chance to learn that everything CH teaches is true straight from the horses’ mouths. God these women are evil and stupid. They have no awareness on so many things. Just no time to type it out. In short, that site presents women, in their own words, illustrating literally every idea that has been discussed on CH’s blog: finding betas repulsive, attraction to asshole aloof alphas who are jobless and live on their mom’s couch but the girl pays for everything while not understanding or being aware of her own attraction to the assholeness of the guy, narcissim, double standards, selfishness. In short, women act exactly like the guys the label “douches” without even knowing it. Every (beta) man has been abused by several women who are “douches” by their own definitions. You also learn how women really look down on “internet dating” yet they all do it. I now know that as a man on internet dating site, you are starting out with negative 10 points. Even if you are a normal higher beta guy who fucked plenty of 7s in the days before internet and cell phones even existed. (don’t need internet to meet a girl). It is the girls who have retreated to the safety of the web and texting (has been discussed here…they get attention, don’t have to actually face a man in the same time and space…easy to flake). And they then hold it against the man that you had to go to the web simply to find them (where they themselves also are with a profile of course). THen read the bitching about the internet date man who had the audacity to make her pay for half the bill!!!!! No awareness that the average man from match.com who makes the mistake of paying for a dinnerview first date pays the hefty bill and never hears from the woman again because that very act (doing dinner on the first date) marked him as beta and killed all chances for vagina tingle.
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Danny makes a good point about self-deprecation game.
But I think it’s not so much the actual self-deprecation, but the act of doing it.
Trying to be “aloof” and “alpha” is, prima-facie, putting on a facade (for most of us), with self-deprecating comments you 1) disarm any critique that someone has of you, and 2) being brutally honest about yourself/what you think. #2 is easy to do and very alpha, and is much more pro-active than the more anti-social aloof badboy game, and probably much easier to execute in real life.
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Self-deprecation has a polarity. When you do it, you’re either shamelessly lying, or you’re compensating. One pole is good, the other not.
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The most crazed sex I’ve ever had was the morning after my woman found me hanging out with a lovely young lady from the office. I actually orchestrated the encounter. That night, at home, I neither admitted to nor denied having an affair, but the seed was planted in her mind. The next morning, she was beyond electric in the sack, fucking as if her life depended on it, and literally screaming as loud as she could. I honestly thought the neighbors were going to call the cops, because it sounded like she was getting stabbed to death. It was shocking, really.
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In other news, an article borrowed straight from Atlash Shurgged and 1984 with abullshit premise supported by 70% of the article generation ghouls in bedsheets.
;D
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2041705/us-prosecutors-propose-kill-switch-to-prevent-smartphone-theft.html
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In theory, one should be able to overheat the phone remotely, causing the battery to explode.
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assplode!!! xD a kill switch is great when they don’t want you to call 911 while they are murdring your dogs and you for not agreeing with their agenda. “Theft” is a moronic screen which they are hiding under
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Gubmint gonna gitchoo.
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*Atlas Shrugged **generating
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I’ve been fucking/hanging out with this Eternal Ingenue (aka superflirt) for about 2 months (she’s 18). This ho fits heartiste’s description of an Eternal Ingenue to a tee. She even runs guy game to top it off.
Anyway, I’ve been running dread game and it works but the thing is, i can never quite get to her. She always feels a bit off. I’ve been giving this ho orgasm after orgasm too, and it never seems to be enough. At times, she hints at wanting more emotional commitment from me, but I just don’t know how to go about it without going too beta. I also don’t want to put myself out there and end up getting fucked over for being soft.
Also, I hardly if ever, text her. Only when i’m about to meet her. She also never texts or calls first. I’m always the first one to do so. I mean, she always responds back, but damn ho put in some effort. I’ve never been flaked on anytime we’ve hung out and she always likes it rawdog but I can’t help but feel that she’s not completely here… If you guys get what I mean.
Heartiste or others, what should i do about this?
This whole situation is starting to become a headache.
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Sounds like one-itis to me. Don’t get sucked in. 18 yo is too young for a LTR anyways.
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Got a 19 yr old similar deal. Theyre just anti commitment . Mine actually has a bf, which is hilarious. But she bitches to her friends (not to me id shut that down) that hes a jerk…the guy is for sure alpha. Younger and dumber than me tho lol. So ive fucked her twice…im letting her do the work now if she wants to fuck more. Shes getting something out of it…but ill only be a candidate in her mind if im more aloof, more an asshole than the guy shes into. The key really tho is that its easy to get onitis when ur bangin a young cute girl…gota keep at it w other girls and keep ur distance. Get machavellian.
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I played aloof maybe a little too well recently. This girl and I went to the movies and I bought her ticket. I said, “Okay, I’ll buy the tickets today but next time…you’re buying.” As we’re walking up to the box office the second time, she’s telling me how ridiculous I am. She tells the lady “Two for…” the movie, and when the lady quotes the price, she steps aside and looks back at me. I didn’t budge. Stood there for just under ten seconds before she caved. During the movie, she kept leaning in and saying, “You’re such an asshole…” I still gave her some of my white gold later that night.
The next night though, she got drunk and was texting me. Asking me what I was doing, said she missed me. “I really like you, you know…” I responded, “Thanks. You’re all right, too. I guess…” It was a joke, of course, but completely lost on her. She told me the other night I need to show more affection and can’t be such a dick. I played with her hair and made it cover her face while I made Chewbacca noises.
She is 20, so maybe I should calibrate the aloofness?
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Johnny Depp would be nicer. But he’s Johnny Depp, granted. How about “But it’s so much fun being a dick and getting you mad. But I’ll make an exception if you want me to because you’re so special.”
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Aloof guys get far with me, it’s true. But personally, guys who work their ass off to get my attention get far with me too.
My boyfriend is there for me. He takes care of me. He dotes on me 110%. He gets it whenever he wants from me.
I don’t know how common girls like me are, but a guy that dotes on you is a guy that creates dependence. Inside I feel like I wouldn’t last a month without my guy because I rely on him for everything.
That said, he kind of does always have one foot out the door being that I know perfectly well that my boyfriend would soon start looking for a younger and hotter replacement if I stopped having sex with him for say a week.
My boyfriend decided to play blues guitar suddenly for some reason. I have no interest in this, so I stopped attending his gigs. After not going to like 5 gigs in a row, I showed up at one. I was watching this gig, and some some fine as hell 23 yr old walks in and sits at the table in front of me. After the gig, I was going to walk up to the stage to give my fella a hug. Not fast enough. Miss 23 beat me to it. She let me know that she had lunch with bf in the week prior because she was an aspiring actress and she wanted to try doing a demo for him. Apparently she’d been to far more blues gigs than I had.
Recently, I reminded my boyfriend of what country I wanted to visit this summer, and he began working on putting that trip together immediately. I’m sure he’ll make it very nice.
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Yup, I can attest to this.
At my request, I’m currently in the midst of working out a divorce from my wife.
While prior to this our sex life never died and was actually satisfying, the last few times we’ve had sex have been on the “wall socket sex” level. It’s easy to see that the anxiety of my leaving is having an effect on her performance.
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But going by this…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/13/white-majority-in-the-us-gone-by-2043
….white American men cannot afford to remain aloof to white American women.
Your aloofness will cost you.
The Black guys, Indian guys, Arab guys and East Asian guys are already starting to move in and pick up the slack.
That’s why right now 20% of American babies born are mixed race and by 2050 it will 50%.
I personally am not bothered by this (celibate yogi here) but you seem to be.
Why not settle down and breed lots of kids with a good white woman?
They DO exist. I know several Indian guys married to family oriented white American women. They have to be very family oriented in order to be accepted as daughter-in-laws by an Indian man’s family.
Indian in-laws shit test like crazy, and these women are passing.
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Is it true?
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You can’t afford to remain aloof if you don’t want to become a minority.
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Huh? Could you elaborate without moving into Eastern Wisdom?
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Sure. This site posted a blog about how white people will be a minority in the US by 2043. So… if you (or the white people here) don’t want that to happen, you/they need to start gettin’ busy and making babies.
I’m a celibate yogi so I’m outta the game.
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You mean you’re celibate, like, even on the Subway?
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Celibates probably ‘bate more than most.
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To Hari Krisha: Most males on this planet do not have the option to simply “get busy”. Obviously, if getting busy and making babies was so easy, the particular blog would not garner the traffic and interest that it does.
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You’ll have to know how to get/keep women before you start making babies. And the moment you unlocked that box (or boxes, in this case), monogamy and rug rats aren’t all that appealing anymore.
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Gracian and Hugh G. –
Admittedly I may not know about the mating scene because I’ve lived in ashrams as a celibate most of my adult life. However how come there’s still plenty of married people who are managing to have babies?
I mean, if Indian guys (who I read have a hard time here) are able to get American wives and stay married to them can do it, why not you guys? I wouldn’t say that on average Indian guys are any better looking or “cooler” than your average American guy. So what is it that is holding you back from finding an average American girl, marrying and making babies?
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The economy. Jobs.
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No, Harry’s got us there. You just have to approach like a Congolese orphan warrior on speed and have no regard for fembot feelings. If they’re convinced you’re fearless and made out of evil, they cant wait to get preggers
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I think you misunderstand. Many of us don’t want wives/marriage or children.
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http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/sylvia/nobody.html
…We came back home
Got ready for bed
I said to myself
I’ve got one shot left
Your still mine and I won’t stand in line
Behind nobody
Nobody
Well, your nobody called today
She hung up when I asked her name
Well, I wonder does she think she’s being clever
(Clever, ohh, ohh)
You say nobody’s after you
The fact is what you say is true
But I can love you like nobody can
Even better…
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The ability to congruently act as though you occupy a higher league is itself evidence that you occupy a higher league … even if not so high a league as you’re acting.
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Male bartenders went into the saltwater to save fatties who can’t swim in 4 feet of water. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/13/3450248/breaking-deck-collapses-at-shuckers.html
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women use sex for power/control.
this is why feminists insist rape is about power.
this also tells you about the human brain: it thinks that every other brain thinks like it does. so smart people think they are average, dumb people think they are average, men think women care about looks, women think men care about social success.
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True story. Moved in with a girl in my mid-20s. A year went by hunky dory. After that, things started to go downhill. Eventually, we had a few months left on the 2nd year of our lease and she suggested that we start seeing other people. There was still occasional sex, but I’d turned beta. I was still young and we weren’t married, so I said the hell with it, that’s fine.
A couple of weeks later I got drunk with a buddy and got blown by a fat chick. I rolled home at 6 AM. My semi-girlfriend was awake as soon as I walked in and asked me where I’d been. I said “out,” and then fell asleep.
I’d given my phone number to the fat chick and she texted me throughout the day. I was asleep/hungover and didn’t check my phone. My semi-girlfriend read all of the text messages. She woke me up and asked me about it. Since we’d already agreed to “see other people,” I told her that I’d fooled around with a girl last night. She threw my phone at me (while I was laying in bed coated with the residue of my hangover sweat) and said, “well, your new girlfriend is texting you.”
As luck would have it, we had already scheduled to hang out with friends that very same night, a Saturday. We went out and got drunk, and on the ride home she started crying and told me that she didn’t want to lose me. She fucked me with more vigor than perhaps at any time in our relationship, including when we first started dating. Deep throating, wild positions, facial at the end. It was just sex with complete abandon.
The honeymoon ended within a few weeks and we broke up completely a few months after. I learned game as a result of that brutal breakup and I haven’t seen her since. I will never, ever forget that night though.
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Uh huh. Everyone knows that the strongest desire is when you want something that’s just out of reach. Women want Alphas but Alphas refuse them because they know the story of Tantalus. Women won’t Betas and Omegas so they know their efforts are going to be in vain as they learn the story of Sisyphus. The hardest trick for is guys is to create an Alpha persona so women want them. Denying women something they don’t want is daft. And we all know women can refrain from sating sexual desires a lot longer than men can. Hence the ball’s in the womens’ court for most men.
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These valuable principles must be applied with reference to the menstrual cycle in a ltr. It’s easy to know day 1 (they tell you, most of the time, almost an involuntary prompt, in retrospect). Over the course of a few cycles, with an electronic calendar, you can plot and divine the key points in the cycle. Dread works well from day 3-4 through ovulation. It can be just mean (with no discernible benefit) in the latter portions.
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The hamsters are alive and well. So alive that now menopause is men’s fault: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/men-cause-menopause_n_3441544.html
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“subtle application of intermittent dread, which releases your woman’s anxiety just long enough that she swings wildly between cuddly comfort and ravenous restlessness.”
-Very cool.
Just like Banter. It’s the spice, not the meal.
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