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What To Do When You’re A Girl’s Second Choice

June 14, 2013 by CH

Sidewinder asks for help with his online game:

Online game update: 2 weeks ago I asked for advice concerning a girl who politely cancelled meeting me because she had something going on with someone else and wanted to see where it went. I wasn’t sure how to respond because it was generally polite, and since we had never met, I felt any kind of negative response would indicate butt hurtness.

Good call. Think of female politeness as entrapment to lull beta males into revealing butthurtness.

Yareally seemed to agree and suggested that I stay positive and say something casually light and humorous. I responded to her “good luck. Let me know when you’re ready to party with a real man”

She responded last night “so…..I’m ready to party with a real man. :-) ” Any suggestions on how to close this one out? My thought is to completely ignore her previous cancellation, but to somehow motivate her to prove her interest to me.

Shouldn’t be too hard to close this girl. She handed you a serious indicator of interest. Play around with her a little more, and then escalate.

“Ok, I’ve got Justin Bieber on the line for you. lol”

As the second choice of this girl, you have to focus extra hard on qualifying her as worthy of your attention, because the head space she’s in right now is very conducive to perceiving you as less man than what she ideally wants. That means DO NOT reference her previous cancellation or her excuses (unless it’s in a humorous way, but even that is fraught with risk), and DO NOT express any sort of gratitude for finally getting a shot with her. It DOES mean acting as if you were the one the whole time deliberating whether she was worth your effort to pursue.

“Great. Swing by my place first, we’ll pre-drink with hot cocoa and snort fresh country air.”

Playfulness, dismissiveness, self-regard. These are the keys to the VAJ lounge.

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  1. on June 14, 2013 at 1:39 pm PermanentGuest

    Good advice. Assume the sale.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm late late late bloomer

      and not only that– you need to be aggressive, almost demanding. she said ‘real man’ and nothing will pull you out of that category faster than end-of-date beta deference. i would give her some indication of your intentions, like ‘at least now you know what not to expect from me’ or something regarding the non-man she saw. assume and _take_ the sale early or you’ll be totally incongruous with the ‘real man’ confidence.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 9:56 am man reader

        Nice to at least see this acknowledged on huff post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/divorced-dads_b_3389434.html?utm_source=Alert-blogger&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Email%2BNotifications In the recent book Divorced Fathers and Their Families, author Florence Kraslow details the “long-term pain, sense of loss, and bereavement” divorced men experience and how difficult it was not to be part of their children’s daily life while growing up. And since two-thirds of all divorces are initiated by women, “the sense of having been discarded, rejected, and thrown out was pervasive … and for most of the men this feeling lingered for years and is periodically re-experienced” at family or children’s celebrations.

        What a divorced beta father goes through is literally BEREAVEMENT and it lasts for years. Alcoholism and SUICIDE much higher in divorced fathers than single men or any woman. etc etc etc.

        Let me explain a subtlety. Read carefully. In addition to just plain sadness and loneliness missing time with the kids and worrying about the kids, having to maintain 2 households, having the mother divorce theft the money taking the father’s month yet father now has to do even the grocery shopping for self and kids when kids there, no time, no money, no sex, no way to get a new woman under 170 pounds, in addition to all of that…..

        THERE IS “ANGER” AND “HUMILIATION” over the system. Understand this. It’s a small part of what CH and GBFM cover: the idea that women are allowed to do this to good beta men by our fucked up SYSTEM. One does not have to be a religious Christian but the Bible makes the point that was frankly followed in our society until 40 years ago…the man is supposed to be the head of the family, and if he’s a decent man to provides and does not physically abuse or cheat on the wife (or abuse the kids), quite literally the woman should not be able to get a divorce. At all.

        It is really that simple. A divorced beta dad feels extreme sadness AND anger that can lead to extreme depression at a minimum and even suicide.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 12:48 pm Man Reader

        lzozlzolzlzo CH look at this one and post this. Miss Utah botched answer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlgqWeuhJj4

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  2. on June 14, 2013 at 1:46 pm Lash

    Yep, similar thing happened. Good to have insight.

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  3. on June 14, 2013 at 1:52 pm corvinus

    Sounds like her former No.1 man beta’ed himself.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 2:00 pm Marky Mark

      OR her former guy pumped and dumped her. Either way don’t take her too seriously and close the deal ASAP.

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  4. on June 14, 2013 at 1:56 pm TheCoolah

    Isn’t it possible, even likely, that “someone else” was just a pretty little lie? I’ve heard this line too many times before.

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  5. on June 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm yeahokcool

    but… but… but… isn’t it betaomega to use “lol”???????????? i am trying to be alpha with over 10,000 cool points and i heard i shouldn’t use text messaging or write lol or use smiley faces. please teach me how to be a man

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 2:40 pm corvinus

      lol or smileys are ok when being sarcastic

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm anonYmous

        U can use “lol” or “lmao” every now and then to fend off a shit test. If you over use it then it can be problematic but there is nothing wrong with using lol or smileys. 😉

        When I get those “hey” texts from chicks I haven’t talked to for a bit, 3 to 12 weeks, I know its because they are single again and on one level it is kind of a slap in the face. But one thing to remember about being different then the other guys, you have to start seeing opportunity in everything; good situations and bad ones. So I take these chicks and experiment with them to see what all I can do to them or with them or what I can get away with before they next me. Its no real conquest to sleep with these traitorous bitches, but they can still be fun.

        There is also the rare occasion that the chick might be busy, had to pick up a second job, or had family drama or just haven’t checked an account for a while. So not every break in communicado is because some guy is planting his seed in her rectum.

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 8:52 pm immoralgables

        You have a healthy mindset

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 10:24 am YaReally

      lol 😉

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  6. on June 14, 2013 at 2:22 pm Wrecked 'Em

    Sounds like her former #1 skipped to Hong Kong with state secrets.

    I hate it when that happens.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 3:09 pm Greg Eliot

      Droll.

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  7. on June 14, 2013 at 2:54 pm Tilikum

    Poor guy. I think single mom for sure.

    http://feministing.com/2013/06/14/friday-feminist-fuck-yeah-senior-male-athletes-at-phillips-andover/

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  9. on June 14, 2013 at 3:09 pm Art of the Pickup, round #1.5 | My journey to thrive….

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  10. on June 14, 2013 at 3:10 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    “I only wanted to be one of the boys/now you’ve made me second choice.”

    Cool tune — although Clive Gregson might possibly have had some Beta tendencies judging from this video:

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 3:30 am Eugen

      Good one.

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  11. on June 14, 2013 at 3:35 pm earl

    “As the second choice of this girl, you have to focus extra hard on qualifying her as worthy of your attention, because the head space she’s in right now is very conducive to perceiving you as less man than what she ideally wants.”

    That should be the advice for all men even if her first choice is you.

    But since they never met up before…I’d treat it as she’s choosing you now and you get to display masculine traits to her. If you have more than the other guy…he’s toast.

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  12. on June 14, 2013 at 3:57 pm Erudite Knight

    Talking about yourself and being mean/playful with girls is insane how effective it is.
    Glad I learned this while still in my 20s

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  13. on June 14, 2013 at 4:15 pm Ternarydaemon

    Two weeks ago a girl flaked me for second date. A long nice message saying his girlfriend was coming for weekend and that she proposed to change the date for next week. I texted nest day: I have plans already, can make an space for you, call me”

    She didn’t called and, succumbing to a moment of betitude, textet her monday morning, instead of waiting her to did it. Asked her out for friday night or saturday. I really had other plans so I needed to know If she was available or not. Another traggic mistake: I asked her to confirm quickly, since I had other plans on the make. She said that she couldn’t answer at work adn I could go wit my other plans but thanks anyway.

    How much did I fucked it up? I want to learn from my mistake.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 4:33 pm bob

      Don’t say “call me” to a girl you’re “dating”, because she won’t call you ever.

      Girls can have good reasons to flake sometimes, don’t be paranoid about it. If she has a good excuse and she sounds genuinely sorry and arranging for another meeting, it’s all good. You should start to worry if she does it again and then a third time. In a situation like this, just go silent for a while (should be at least a week, and don’t even answer to her “sorry, I have to cancel blablabla”), look for other girls, and after a while, see how you feel about re-engaging that girl. Should you re-engage, be VERY casual about it, being pushy would be ultra beta.

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 5:32 pm Ternarydaemon

        To add insult to injury, I texted her afterwrads, in a moment of beta-anger, that she still had a chance with me, that it was her choice. Promplty deleted her phone and messages so that I never call her again.

        Of course, she won’t call againI blew it up but, it was only one date, so I didn’t lost much except for my time. Lesson learned.

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      • on June 15, 2013 at 11:01 am Dan Fletcher

        “Promplty deleted her phone and messages so that I never call her again.”

        Wise move. Shoot and scoot.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 5:26 pm earl

      Never ask for a friday or saturday unless you are in a LTR. Odds are she’s booked up anyway…and you should have plans. I consider those days sacred and only women who have proven their worth get those days.

      Also agree with waiting a week to reengage. I go with the two strike rule…two flakes and she’s out. You could go three like baseball if you want.

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm immoralgables

        +1

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm the latent sadist

        agreed with earl. Sometimes if the girl is way into you its ok, but as a rule its no good to try and arrange plans on a friday and saturday. Weekdays are great…ive oddly found sunday to be good too. At the very least, be sleazy and hit her up after midnight if youre gona on a weekend.

        TO that guy above bob…keep in mind the golden ration…give her 2/3 of everything she gives you. YOu would have been fine just being silent after she said that shit bout her friend. Then going for the meetup another day. It conveys that youre unaffected, she will be intrigued. You start developing rules to live by as you do this shit…one of mine is i never acknowledge an meetup refusal.

        “I’ve gotta get with this guys requests or he will bail”

        is how you want her to view you…

        not

        “oh i can just see him any old time, if i refuse he’ll just offer the next day”

        So never acknowledge it. if she doesnt chase you, then wait a good amount of time (3+ days) and hit her up in the same exact tone as you always do…terse. Thats the benefit of being terse and inscrutable thru text…you never betray any difference in behavior. built in frame control.

        Women losing your emotional interest/investment is their biggest weakspot. Just like sex is ours. Exploit it artificially…or naturally by virtue of truly not caring. Caring doesnt help.

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  14. on June 14, 2013 at 4:59 pm Septagon

    Slightly OT, but still on the general topic of on-line dating…

    I was reading a forum elsewhere recently, and a woman told the following short anecdote about a man’s online profile:
    I saw an online dating profile today that said ‘Actresses/models/drama queens need not apply.’ I was completely livid and told the guy so. But then I suppose it’s because I’m an actress and just love the drama.

    Now I was wondering (perhaps I’ve missed this)…but is that line in bold taught somewhere as part of game? Is it featured on a website or in a book cataloguing clever things to say online? Because it sounds just perfect: It demonstrates the man’s status twofold – it suggests that the man is confident of being able to attract models and actresses (i.e. generally hot women), and he is self-assured enough to turn them away – and it contains a neg/challenge: accusing such women of being drama queens, and challenging them to demonstrate that they’re not.

    I don’t know what kind of success rate the guy has with this line, but the very fact that the woman says she responded to him is at least a starting point (not many women approach men online).

    What do you think? If this isn’t featured as standard advice for online dating somewhere, it should be.

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  15. on June 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm Chris from Dublin

    Demand that she suck your cock on the first date or dump her.

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  16. on June 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm the latent sadist

    also +1 on the two strikes rule. Follow my criteria above and if she refuses twice in a row without a counter offer…cut the cord.

    Shes uninterested, unavailable, or just retarded.

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  17. on June 14, 2013 at 6:44 pm dannyfrom504

    i’d agree to make plans, then cancel at the last minute and set up something for a different date. i’m assuming this is a younger woman, they tend to pull this shit more than +25 year olds. ALWAYS have 2 or more plates spinning in the 18-23 age range. girls KNOW when you have other chicks and will usually chase you harder. especially if she’s on the carousel.

    but DEFINITELY don’t reference the previous blow off.

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    • on June 14, 2013 at 7:02 pm MMA

      ^This man is king of the soft harem.

      I would say 2-3 plates spinning is a minimum.

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      • on June 14, 2013 at 10:48 pm dannyfrom504

        I don’t know about that, but thanks dude.

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  18. on June 14, 2013 at 7:24 pm Graham Martin

    Well wouldn’t you know….

    Menopause, its all OUR fault.

    http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/06/14/origins-of-menopause-linked-to-mens-preference-for-younger-women-mcmaster-study/

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 12:23 pm John

      Just saw this comment now so repeating what I posted below:

      I think there’s a hilarious way to turn this study around though:

      The reason we have violent men is because of women’s mating choices. If women of the past and present were attracted to peace-loving nice guy betas, we could live in a more peaceful society like the Federation of Star Trek. Then all the betas could live their dream of being with super sexy comic book heroines. Instead, women are attracted to violent-prone men, leading to generation after generation of men not inclined for peace and prosperity but for war.

      So you could say the cause of war and strife is……women!

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  19. on June 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm What To Do When You’re A Girl’s Second Choice « PUA Central

    […] What To Do When You’re A Girl’s Second Choice […]

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  20. on June 14, 2013 at 8:59 pm betamax

    Get used to it. Unless you are the (perceived or actual) alpha male/office etc that reigns over your zip code/club/school/social circle, you will always be her 2nd or 22nd choice…even if she’s only a 3.

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm Anonymous

      Yup, even the ugly women love them some super-alpha men

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  21. on June 14, 2013 at 9:31 pm walawala

    Second choice” is a state of mind. You have to just pretend it wasn’t ever an issue you were busy, she was busy now you’ve found time.

    The idea of being someone’s second choice stems from a scarcity mentality.

    Girls and guys go out with other people. This is a fact of life.

    The fact you’re a “choice” is your own perception.

    I’ve been in this situation and just ignore it.

    After you’ve banged them, that becomes something that in the back of my mine is an element that always holds me back from getting any more serious with them unless and until they are literally throwing themselves at me…which she will if you game her right.

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 6:36 am Anonymous

      > walawala: “After you’ve banged them, that becomes something that in the back of my mine is an element that always holds me back from getting any more serious with them unless and until they are literally throwing themselves at me…”

      Wow, that is one helluva critique of the underlying nihilism of modernity, if a bitch allowing you to ravage her holiest of holies does NOT constitute “literally throwing herself at you”.

      It’s almost as though the metaphorical throwing of herself [s/p your evopsych manipulation of her hamster] is more important than the literal throwing of herself [her giving up the vajajay itself].

      In all honesty, I don’t see how you can hold together any possible civilization if a majority [or even if just a significant minority] of its females are giving up the poontang BEFORE they give up their hearts.

      That shiznat is a bizarre surrealistic inversion of the last 3,000 years of Western history.

      Has the hookup “culture” [which is really an “anti-culture”] degenerated to the point that a bitch will fuck you first, and then decide whether she likes you afterwards?

      “OMFG, I just realized that I fucked a beta last Saturday night! My bad. Gimme a mulligan, sistahz, gimme a mulligan! LOL’ed.”

      I mean, that shiznat is beyond obscene – it’s a very powerful recipe* for societal extinction.

      *Credit due to the psychiatrists of the Frankfurt School.

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 10:34 am YaReally

      Truth bombs right here.

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm M. Simon

      My very best line – once I get them talking – is, “Snuggle naked with me, no sex. I like the body contact.” I keep at it until she gives in or goes away.

      Then I do exactly what I said. Snuggle naked – no sex. (a little fingering and fondling is OK.) About 3/4s come back gagging for it. Why? She is thinking, “Is something wrong with me?”

      Now this is very good because she thinks it is her choice. So when she comes back she is so in to it. And I’m so in her. No physical coercion. No convincing.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 1:46 pm M. Simon

        And if she doesn’t come back? Well, I got to snuggle naked with her.

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  22. on June 15, 2013 at 1:17 am ttaz4dqm

    I am no one’s second choice. Ever. I am the shit.

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 1:36 pm M. Simon

      Ah. So you are going out with no one. Clever.

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  23. on June 15, 2013 at 6:33 am tspark156

    On/at (insert date/time) I will be at/going to (insert place or event) and end the text or email there without specifically inviting her to join you.

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  24. on June 15, 2013 at 11:26 am Marky Mark

    I think if you don’t give a fuck which choice you are and just bang her with minimum investment on your part… it shouldn’t really matter. Which ‘choice’ of hers you are is just insecure ego b/s unless you are George Clooney you will never be every girls first choice.

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  25. on June 15, 2013 at 11:54 am Cauthon

    “Pre-drink”? Did the chateau relocate to the UK?

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  26. on June 15, 2013 at 12:22 pm John

    Vox Day linked to an article claiming that the cause for women’s menopause is men’s mating choices:
    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2013/06/its-your-fault-shes-old-and-dried-up.html

    I think there’s a hilarious way to turn this study around though:

    The reason we have violent men is because of women’s mating choices. If women of the past and present were attracted to peace-loving nice guy betas, we could live in a more peaceful society like the Federation of Star Trek. Then all the betas could live their dream of being with super sexy comic book heroines. Instead, women are attracted to violent-prone men, leading to generation after generation of men not inclined for peace and prosperity but for war.

    So you could say the cause of war and strife is……women!

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  27. on June 15, 2013 at 12:25 pm lzzoozollzozo

    Gbfm response: “cooool sooon as u wash alll da gizizizzz outta ur butthole bring da movies. Lotsas cockas 4u longas da gbfm don taste no smelly cumspeemrmlozlzozo spermataozaas zlzozozzzzozzlz

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  28. on June 15, 2013 at 1:11 pm Anonymous

    This chick already told you that you’re not good enough for her. The only correct move here is to ignore her altogether. Or meet her in person and tell her that she’s a lot fatter and uglier in person and then walk off never to be heard from again.

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 6:11 pm Marky Mark

      That sounds butthurt… even if your a solid guy women have other things going on in their lives. Maybe she had known the other guy better before or something and wanted to give him a chance.

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  29. on June 15, 2013 at 6:42 pm whorefinder

    What to do when you’re a girl’s second choice??????

    Do I really need to say it??????

    I will anyway….

    Rape!

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm j

      Consider yourself reported, you idiot.

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      • on June 24, 2013 at 7:58 pm whorefinder

        Noooooo

        Not reported!

        Rape!

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  30. on June 15, 2013 at 7:11 pm Transmillenium

    Alpha or Gamma? http://www.bestgore.com/suicide/bjork-stalker-ricardo-lopez-suicide-full-uncensored-video/

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  31. on June 15, 2013 at 9:02 pm Sidewinder

    2nd date lay. 1st guy wasn’t an issue. She felt obligated since she had been seeing him before she contacted me. She was already on the fence with him when she first contacted me, felt bad, decided to see it through with him before going out with someone else. It should also be noted that she has amazing d cup breasts. I will throw it in the dog tonight in honor of CH and Yareally.

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    • on June 15, 2013 at 9:21 pm immoralgables

      “She was already on the fence with him when she first contacted me, felt bad, decided to see it through with him before going out with someone else.”

      Sounds like she’s a good girl man. I’m not saying rush into this head long or nothing but I see a clear sign from this girl that she isn’t a straight up hyper famous untrustworthy whore like a lot of the manosphere claims that all women are.

      Yeah.

      Proceed carefully and always strive to be the best man that she can get and all that. End of day though, she seems like she has some substance. Glad it worked out for you and thanks for sharing the experience.

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      • on June 15, 2013 at 9:22 pm immoralgables

        *hypergamous not hyper famous

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 3:26 am lightlybraisedturnipdotcom

      Sidewinder, your first and only mistake, pardonable as it might be, is that you actually believe her.

      The truth could be different even if she herself has convinced herself that she told you the truth.

      I encounter woman after woman who tells tales about how awful her ex-husband was to her and how she had not choice but to leave him. All these stories turned out to be pure fiction.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 12:24 pm Sidewinder

        That’s a good point. Who knows. I don’t know if it was mentioned or not, but she contacted me on an online dating site. We had never met face to face prior to her initial cancellation. Maybe I was her second choice, maybe I was her transition from a boring relationship, or maybe she was just exercising online dating etiquette. hard to say. But I do think its important that we had never met in this scenario. Had we met and then she cancelled or picked another guy, I probably wouldn’t have been so nonchalant. But maybe I should have responded in an unaffected manner either way? Who knows.

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  32. on June 16, 2013 at 12:11 am Betaboy

    She responded last night “so…..I’m ready to party with a real man

    Did she mean you or the alpha man?

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  33. on June 16, 2013 at 6:35 am LeapFrog

    CH: Need some advice. Background: Picked a girl up on the street about a year ago. She’s hot, very smart, well bred, 10 years younger, seen as a prize in her social group. A bit of an “it” girl – some magazines have written her up. I have a girlfriend, she’s aware of this.

    Over the year we’ve texted on and off. She can be aloof on text. We hang out a couple times with friends, one of those times friends leave and make out moment with hair pulling and light face slapping ensues. (She’s actually one of the few girls that returned the hits slap for slap.) Pulls me into the bathroom, says “I can’t do this”. Imagine I could have fucked her, but something doesn’t seem right. I stop.

    Months later texts me to hang out, reveals she wants out of her relationship with her boyfriend. We hang again – surprise – she brings boyfriend. Guy is beta, I’m touchy feely with her, clearly flirting in front of him. Month later dumps her boyfriend.

    Now very responsive on text. Last week three times tell her to show up at place X , she shows up every time. Rub is last two times show up – surprise – with guys. They’re lame betas, but it’s not like I’m going to fuck her in front of them.

    Question: Does she want me to call her out on the psuedo cock-blocking? Would you recommend dismissing her friends on text (“who was that loser…”)? Ignoring the issue? Ignoring her in totality?

    She seems more and more DTF but her behavior expresses unease with the fact that I’m not her boyfriend, not interested in commitment, older, have never taken her out, picked her up off the street, etc.

    Side note: As I write this, becoming aware that I’ve been getting this behavior recently from a couple other girls too, both of whom are attractive “celebrity lites” (reality TV), but who subconsciously know I don’t take them seriously and basically dislike their personalities. Once every couple months or so they try to engage me and bring their significant others or a decoy. It’s amusing more than anything. One of them reached out recently to hang out alone and I finger-banged her in my office. She’s engaged.

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  34. on June 16, 2013 at 8:21 am Anon

    “No man should do that to a woman. She raised her voice and got angry but at the same time was trying to calm him down, almost like you would try to calm down a child. The kiss was a strange thing. He was being intimidating, threatening.

    “And yet she kissed him. She appeared to be a woman who loves him but was clearly unable to stop him being abusive, frightening and disrespectful to her.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10123316/Nigella-Lawson-attacked-by-husband-at-restaurant.html

    “Nigella Lawson ‘attacked by husband’ at restaurant”

    Saatchi sounds like a hell of an Alpha male, too. Check out some quotes from him regarding women and marriage in general:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/9151424/Charles-Saatchi-wants-wife-Nigella-Lawson-to-be-coveted.html

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 6:55 pm j

      His behaviour screams personality disorder. Alpha? I think not.

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  35. on June 16, 2013 at 9:55 am Transmillenium

    Ten Things to Avoid When Hitting on Me: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melanie-curtin/ten-things-to-avoid-when-_b_3447210.html

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    • on June 16, 2013 at 2:41 pm haunted trilobite

      I’ll tell you what I want what I really really want. I wanna huh I wanna huh I wanna zig a zig ahh

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    • on June 16, 2013 at 4:58 pm Anonymous

      What a stupid, clueless, self contradicting, selfish, entitled, carousel riding SLUT.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm j

        Please do feel free to elaborate, if you are able.

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 3:55 am Anonymous

      “Melanie Curtin is the founder of Vixen on the Loose, the sassy brand seeking to redefine what it means to be a modern, empowered woman (and man, for that matter). She is convinced her generation can do the whole sex, dating, and relating thing better than those who came before, and her goal is to spark the conversations necessary for this to be the case. Both lightning rod and spitfire, she invites you unleash your inner vixen by unabashedly expressing her own. Tweet her at@VixenHaiku, email her at vixenontheloose [at] gmail [dot] com, and subscribe to her YouTube channel for more sexy, spiritual smackdown! “

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 4:46 am Libertardian

        I hate to think how many neurons died while I was reading that.

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  36. on June 16, 2013 at 1:21 pm Adam

    lol

    http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/pregnant-boys-chicago-teen-pregnancy-ads-article-1.1368349

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  37. on June 16, 2013 at 3:21 pm Greatest Beta

    Went to a party in Laguna Beach yesterday. It was on a private beach, approximately 100 people. Beautiful girls with very good looking guys. Didn’t see one mismatched couple.

    By and large, average guys that pull hot girls will remain in the minority. I saw these dudes that were 6ft 3 stacked with muscle. The few single girls were orbiting around them like moons to a large planet. There is no way a 5ft 8 guy could compete against these genetic lords lol

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    • on June 16, 2013 at 4:51 pm Anonymous

      Truth. Best comment here in a while. Except for genetic part. Often steroids are involved.

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 8:28 am Sidewinder

      What are you good at? What is your occupation?

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 9:40 am Sad Clown

      “There is no way a 5ft 8 guy could compete against these genetic lords lol”

      Forget about competing with them, and take your game to where they aren’t. You probably aren’t going to find the stacked meatheads in coffee shops, bookstores, or dog parks. In other words, learn day game. Context is everything.

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      • on June 17, 2013 at 10:56 am Greatest Beta

        Very true. I was watching as I didn’t know that many people there and it was a pretty stuck up crowd.

        I was there with my chick and I got some hostile stares from the pretty boys. One in particular was angry at me for no particular reason. He was probably upset I was there with a hot girl while he was there alone. I’ve gotten shit on by men that are taller than me, call it “heightism”

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    • on June 18, 2013 at 4:05 am Scray

      lmfao

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  38. on June 16, 2013 at 5:02 pm Alexander

    You guys might get a kick out of this.

    So yesterday I was walking to my car after the gym and I overheard two girls talking. Now mind you these were buff chicks. Around 5’5 5’4 ripped to the gills. Anyways one was complaining why a guy who visited her last night left without fucking her.

    I wanted to shout “Cuz you look like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger!!” . Advice to all women please don’t cut your hair short, don’t pack on muscles and stop being bossy/loud. I don’t understand why any self respecting man would insert his dick into a testosterone filled body.

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  39. on June 16, 2013 at 8:41 pm Harry Baldwin

    Sounds like she made a mistake with the first one – didn’t choose well 🙂
    Don’t mention the previous time at all is my advice, even jokingly. Too fraught with peril. But I’d be so tempted to bust her chops about it!

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  40. on June 17, 2013 at 4:41 am Libertardian

    Money can’t buy alpha

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2342799/Young-pretty-successful-So-DID-Helen-Croydon-let-rich-sugar-daddies-date-cash.html

    “Three months later, Greg invited me to New York. On a walk on our first evening, he said: ‘I’d like to buy you something.’ I smiled awkwardly, but he was insistent.

    ‘Who’s your favourite fashion designer?’ he asked. I didn’t dare tell him I was a Topshop girl. But he grabbed my hand and took me to the Prada boutique.

    I was ushered into a changing room with a glass of champagne and a red dress, black leather and velvet panel dress, tailored trousers and silk shirt. Greg wanted to buy all four for me. It was flattering, but unnerving.

    I was stunned when the bill came to $12,000 (about £7,900). I wondered what the shop staff thought of me, cooing over clothes I couldn’t possibly afford.

    People will, of course, draw parallels with prostitution. All I can say is I went to New York with no expectations, material or otherwise. I saw it as an adventure.

    But it was not without its darker side. The weekend was on Greg’s terms from the minute he produced his charge card. He held the power; I had none.

    We didn’t have sex that evening, but only because I had jet lag and couldn’t stay awake.

    When we made love the next morning, it was because I wanted to just as much as Greg did. We never met again – it had been an exciting one-off experience, but neither of us expected more.”

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 1:24 pm bob

      “We didn’t have sex that evening, but only because I had jet lag and couldn’t stay awake.”

      Yeah, right.

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  41. on June 17, 2013 at 9:40 am Sidewinder

    This girl affirmed a key tenet of alpha male communicative technique:

    She told me that she liked it that I “told” her what i wanted to do instead of asking her, and she said that she liked my decisiveness. When I picked her up for date 1, she asked “Do you have a plan for what we’re doing tonight?” This may have been a shit test, because I wondered if admitting to a plan would suggest try-hardness. Even though I really only had a loose idea of where we would be going, I decided to answer “Yeah, there’s a couple spots I’d like to hit tonight.”

    When setting up subsequent meet ups, I always tell her what I want her to do. I don’t ask her what she wants to do, or “if” she wants to do what I am suggesting, I text “come over and [insert something/anything reasonable]”.

    I don’t believe they get off on an authoritarianism vibe with this direct method of communication, rather it just makes things easier for them. To the male, it may seem like these directives may be interpreted as rude “demands”, so they often soften it up by asking the girl if she wants to do one thing or another. But I don’t think they interpret the directive as a demand, but rather an enthusiastic suggestion of something to do. And by stating the suggestion clearly, the girl doesn’t have to question what she should be doing or not, what the male may be implicitly asking or saying, why her hamster is running forward and/or reverse,…make the decision and clearly inform them of it and it makes it easier for them. When they don’t want to do what you suggest, they will politely let you know or suggest an alternative.

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  42. on June 17, 2013 at 9:56 am YouAndI

    The Death of “Freedom”, Edward Snowden Public Q&A

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower

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  43. on June 17, 2013 at 12:08 pm M. Simon

    I’m Sooooooooooo sorry. In the interim I met some one else. If that doesn’t work out would you still like a call?

    There are way more cunts than there is time.

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    • on June 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm M. Simon

      “There are way more cunts than there is time.”

      Should always be your attitude.

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  44. on June 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm PUA advice WTF and glad i'm not a hustler

    […] […]

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  45. on June 17, 2013 at 1:23 pm Adam

    botm candidate:

    http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/im-overweight-boyfriends-not-big-freaking-deal-134800157.html

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  46. on June 21, 2013 at 9:48 am treylesnorth

    George Zimmerman Treyvon Martin shooting trial has an all woman jury

    http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1378193#bmb=1

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