A reader passes along a screen capture of a text exchange he had with a girl who has a boyfriend she obviously worships as a king and duty-bound patriarch.
I thought you would get a kick out of this. Little background: this chick ended up doing facials, anal anything on demand. As of current I am in a relationship with her best friend who she introduced me to and she even endorsed me. They are no longer friends and she is on the rocks with her current bf bc he knows she still wants me. If i could change one thing I would’ve left out the “Lol.”
The reader’s poetic musing are on the right.
This is a thing of beauty. You’ve got a little bit of “Nah” game in there, lack of punctuation game, and all of it delivered with tingle titillating aloofness. This reader has expertly put into practice Poon Commandment V, always give less than you receive from a woman. If this text convo were displayed on a Jumbotron, he would feel no shame, for he would know the audience of millions understands he is getting plenty of action from this girl. And it is the audience that would feel ashamed that they intuitively know this, and will thus spend their whole lives embracing romantic platitudes as salve for their chafed soulholes.
The only question is, would the reader have achieved level A2M had he left off the “lol”?
Girl: That was the same night u made me give you my lunch money and ripped my bra and underwear
Guy: Who’s this?
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lol.
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@RP Awesome!
I woulda said…
Guy: I love me
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I’m not understanding the thing about the vibrator.
I mean, he is a dude, right?
We’re not talking about dykes here, are we?!?
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he didnt wanna get her pregnant
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???
Still not understanding the anatomical stuff here.
Are we talking ebernankified buttextualization?
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Reminds me of a cartoon I saw in Easyriders a long time ago. “I didn’t mind when you passed out on top of me, but then you pissed in my cunt.”
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Well, except that he wasn’t in her cunt – the vibrator was in her cunt [unless I’m misunderstanding something here].
If an Alpha can’t shoot his wad in a bitch’s birth canal, then what the hell is the point of being an Alpha in the first damned place?
If Game Theory exists solely to teach a guy how to trick a girl into taking off her clothes so that he can then slide a vibrator into her [rather than his own erection], then Game Theory is a really grotesquely obscene form of utterly purposeless nihilism.
[In which case I’d have to agree with FX’s deservedly bitter rant downthread from here.]
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You can stick your erection other places too, you know…
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Contracepted sex is essentially masturbating into a cunt. Everything else is sodomy. Which can be fun and satisfying to while away one’s life, but then so are healthy bowel movements and launching a thick piss.
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It’s a lot more fun than going at it alone though.
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Like I said, there are various degrees of masturbation, some “more fun” than others. And a lot of times, all female fucked-upness considered, it is not better “than going [at] it alone.”
Nonetheless, Zombie and I are discussing a difference in kind, not degree.
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You sound like fun in bed lol
Man you guys are terrible. No wonder I can get laid, if this is my competition in the bedroom lol
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lol – YR, you are a one-man monument to the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Is that the effect where I know how to find a clit and actually like women? lol.
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It’s like we’re talking to someone from the last century. Isn’t masturbation sinful anyways? All sex has to be for procreation. No wonder you both sound so miserable.
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I note a teleological difference in behaviors and out come the neo-moralizers and sex-revo shills, like elderly lechers in the 1970s who are pissed that
Sexual intercourse began
In nineteen sixty-three
(which was rather late for me) —
Damn you’re dull. You missed the point. And your vicarious adolescent bonerism was “hip” forty years ago, and now just comes off as creepy. You really showed the nuns what you thought about masturbation! Still showing them!
Further, YaReally probably should stop imagining how much “fun” other dudes are “in bed.” My suggestion for him is to watch Magic Mike twice and relieve his disordered urges into a roomie’s old Lacrosse jersey.
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actually it would be 5x better if he just put “lol”
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Worth repeating:
A socialite at White House reception said to “Silent” Calvin Coolidge, “I bet my friends that I could get you to say more than two word”
“You lose”
A better AMOG story regarding Calvin Coolidge concerns was that Will Rogers was going to meet him for the first time, and was told no one could ever get Coolidge to smile. So when they were introduced, Rogers looked at the president and said, “Sorry, I didn’t catch your name.” Coolidge cracked up.
Coolidge, Rogers, Alphas
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If you had asked me ten years ago your question wouldn’t have made sense because your blog did not exist. Any man that wants to attract women is lucky to have found your posts while DOING what Vic says http://www.lifegivingshow.com starting this moment. The “lol” thing should be reserved for approval seekers.
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The post above is spam. It doesn’t make any sense and just advertises a website.
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@Anonymous oh really? Every day another 300 or so men find heartiste.wordpress.com — This is causing a lot of interesting and positive change in the publicity machine in the “Hollywood” most readers do not yet understand. @Anonymous, your comment has nothing to do with the blog post, mine does.
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I thought he was one of femx’s suitors! 😉 Who doesn’t love his/hers swimwear?
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Hilarious rofl. The avatars are like His and Hers photos.
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The Narrative:
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+1000
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Interesting.
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Tl;dw summary: J’s do what the do because they are J’s.
It should be noted that Prof. MacDonald is only permitted to continue teaching at CSULB because he outright refuses to engage in “holocaust denial” aka holo-cost revisionism.
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The Hollow Hoax
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what do your retarded videos of clueless chaps like Kevin Macdonald and David Duck have to do with CH post regarding this slutt?
I do believe some of the men here are so worried about their own manliness and angry about their own lack of success with women and/or with their work/profession they look for excuses why they are unsuccessful. No one here is good at self-accounting.
Sigh…..it’s easy to blame the J for everything instead of looking at oneself.
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Focus on the culpability of Jews, their elitist Anglo collaborators, and the minorities and women whom they have manipulated should not, of course, become obessessive. But, it is necessary, to understand the cultural forces cunningly arrayed against White men – men of all races for that matter – and to identify our spiritual adversary.
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“it is necessary, to understand the cultural forces cunningly arrayed against White men – men of all races for that matter – and to identify our spiritual adversary.”
THIS
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Kevin MacDonald seems like an astute observer and analyst of what is really going on. It just seems that ANY critical analysis of the Zionists is automatically labelled as antisemitic.
Part of the brilliance of the Zionist mindset is to simultaneously be in positions of cultural, economic and political power while simultaneously portraying themselves as victims.
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Go back to the CNN comments section if you don’t like the daily dose of truth, you fairy.
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It’s really important that you folks stop and watch this video. This is but one of your prescribed red pills.
P.S. Eric Fromm’s “Escape from Freedom” is a book worthy of a perusal, despite his membership/leadership in the Frankfurt School. And yes I know he’s a YKW, Greg.
∞
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Effective video, excellent speaker. Mr. Whittle’s one blind spot, however, is to overlook the complicity of the political right. In the U.S. both parties are massively influenced, if not outright controlled, by Jewish money, media, intelligentsia, and cultural hegemony.
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This text chat log was kinda stupid
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He just might’ve received that A2M status and level had he steered the dialogue a bit
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This post really disturbs me. I feel such sympathy for the girl and such disgust and anger towards whatever sociopathic slimewad brags about taking advtantage of someone’s feelings and degrading them.
Who cares if this can be an effective way of manipulating some women into doing whatever you want? How would it be if some woman started writing a blog about how to take advantage of men and then laugh at them while they break down and cry? “Chateau Girltiste- Hey girls, you should marry a nice beta provider and then nail a bunch of alpha guys on the side! You’ll get all the benefits of a nice dude and a jerk at the same time! Oh and then when you get tired of nice guy, you should divorce him and keep the house and alimony! Yeah! Pity all the poor girls that don’t know about this and actually try to be nice to guys.”
Yes, you can treat girls like garbage and get what you want our of it. You can also be a con artist and treat any gullible person like garbage and then take them for all their worth. So what? It’s a wrong way to treat peopl0,e and those who do it are disgusting.
And in the end, guys that sociopathic do not function well in the world. People who treat girls like this will somehow end up angering men too and even if women never take him down, at some men other guys will. I’ve seen guys like that and they end up imploding under their own narcicistic personality disorder as drunkards with no career or fired from their job because others hate them so much.
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It’s okay. We didn’t want to get you pregnant anyway.
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WUT
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Whoa, wait a minute. How do you know she isn’t initiating everything? She’s cheating on her bf! Is this guy supposed to treat her like someone he’d take home to mom?
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I take it you’re not a Cosmo girl
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Direct ego-hit detected, hamster has gone into defensive crouch and left only a puddle and frustrated ramblings behind.
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No.
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lol +1000 what more needs to be said
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Ur PMSing today. Are you not a regular reader here? RE: “Hey girls, you should marry a nice beta provider and then nail a bunch of alpha guys on the side! You’ll get all the benefits of a nice dude and a jerk at the same time! Oh and then when you get tired of nice guy, you should divorce him and keep the house and alimony! Yeah! Pity all the poor girls that don’t know about this and actually try to be nice to guys.””
Um….yes, exactly that’s what every other MAINSTREAM media source tells girls, exactly, to do!!!
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I’m not femx and can’t speak for her, but the thing that might have set her off is the posting of the text exchange word-for-word…so that the girl might wind up finding it on here and realizing that her #1 Crush has no problem putting her business out on the Internet…?
…personally, it doesn’t bother me, as neither of their names are visible.
And for the record, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a mainstream media source actively advising women to cheat, although I’ve seen several “confessional” articles from women who’ve done it. If you’ve got examples you can post, I’ll be happy to eat crow.
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Hilarious! I can post them, but I’m outside of Los Angeles in Florida today showcasing how the people watching this trial via MSM have zero effect on the verdict of the Zimmerman Trial. Mentally ‘blind’ they waste mind space and precious time NOT affecting the trial or working to learn the truth … Truth? Yes, truth like the fact that most of everything that is most popular promotes the unraveling of healthy lifetime love. It’s a waste of time since the delusional refuse to believe in truth when MSM feels so normal to them. Will consider outsourcing the creation of such lists if 25 people buy the advice at http://www.lifegivingshow.com today. Otherwise, seriously, listing the links such a waste of money since the promotion of cheating is blatant! The “Sex and the City” reruns and every popular show it’s audience absorbs in the name of ‘it’s fiction’ despite the true data
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Are you sure? I didn’t see much of the SATC show, but as I recall, Samantha and Miranda got cheated on, and none of them ever cheated on their boyfriends. Samantha once very blatantly left her boyfriend for another guy (the one who had cheated on her), but I was not aware that any of them cheated.
I don’t see how the show was encouraging female cheating. I also don’t see any mainstream outlet encouraging women to deliberately cheat on betas with alphas.
I think you guys just like to remain ignorant about feminist and then blame them for whatever personal anxiety ails you.
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posted in wrong place. Meant to reply to catorenasci. I thought he was the one that mentioned SATC.
this is what happens when I skim this blog and talk on the phone at the same time. The female multi tasking gift did skip me.
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A major plot line was Carrie’s character cheating on Aiden with Mr. Big while Big was married. It had to have been at least one season. They even had Carrie cheat (minimally) in the second movie. In all cases, especially Steve cheating on Miranda, they showed the emotional damage it does.
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I think this spambot is in love with me. What do you guys think?
Come away with me, Spambot LiveFearless, that we may make beautiful digital love. Give me all your RAM; I wanna feel your hard drive up against my GUI interface. Oh, yeah, you know how I like it, baby. Shower my motherboard with your zeroes and ones!
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Hahahahaha!
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No, I see it as an schizophrenic dialogue between two distinct personalities within Feministx. The beach swimwear coordination gives it away.
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No woman wants a guy like this, and that is why this girl now hates this guy. This guy knows perfectly well that women will end up hating and resenting him because of how he treats them and he gets a laugh out of that. He actually diabically plots to destroy their lives and friendships and enjoys knowing that relationships after him have been destroyed because of him. He is complete filth. That’s why he sets me off. He’s freaking evil.
His female equivalent would be some psychotic prostitute that pretends to love an omega just so she can take him to the cleaners.
I bet such a woman would end up with great shoes in the process. Let’s hold her up as a role model.
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Your last boyfriend eh?
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on menses today
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You are transgressing solid game dogma. Haven’t you heard that evil per se attracts women?
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Are you not a regular reader here?
Half of this site’s message is how to take advantage of modern amoral circumstances (while the schizo other-half is lamenting those circumstances). “Poolside” is ultimately united with what the “MAINSTREAM media” tell dysfunctional girls because well-adjusted young women would render the most reliable tricks of game moot and the PUA’s pee-pee dry.
[CH: As we say at speed dating events catering to the middle-aged spinster… you keep telling yourself that.]
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I don’t need to “tell myself” anything. I operate fluidly in both worlds.
Who’s telling whoself what? I don’t have to reconcile contradictions between the philosophical and the practical like you do. I am unified — heart, mind, body, soul, spirit, and strength.
Fuck a couple sluts and you become an philosopher, huh? Please. Stick to your street wisdom, which is unassailable. Leave the proofs to your contextual betters.
Or are you really trying to put forth that the lifestyle you pedestalize would be just as operable in a culture of fathers and, say, the death penalty for adultery? You cannot square this circle, even if most of your readership does not notice the deep inconsistencies or intellectual slights-of-hand.
I assume somewhere in the archives you’ve given your best defense of unfettered Epicureanism/hedonism. What I’ve seen does not impress. You’d do us all a favor by making an explicit case because so far it’s a blowout for the other side.
Which is why your ultimate response is a shrug and a retreat, whether that be to a fantasy Europe, now specifically Ukraine, or “poolside.”
Matt
[CH: MK, you know I have a softie for your noble if doomed antediluvian defiance, but you’re simply wrong to harangue like so many excusable ignoramuses before you that well-bred women are any more resistant to the peculiar vajlovian response to game-wielding men than are lower class “bar skanks”. Women are women, and their primal hindbrains that regulate their sexual cravings aren’t magically altered by class status or educational credential. The downscale Miley lusts for the same male attractiveness traits (give or take some minor preference disparities at the margins) as the upscale “Lean In” reader.
About the only concession I’ll make to your insistent anti-game drumbeat is the premise that higher class (i.e., higher IQ) women are better at refraining from fulfilling their worst self-defeating sexual impulses, particularly when those impulses have negative ramifications that extend beyond the time horizon of a week. But the key point to remember is that these higher class women STILL HAVE THE IMPULSES. It’s not a question of them feeling nothing for the smooth talking charmer; it’s a question of them being less stupid about rubber-free sex on the first date.]
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Anti-hedonism is not “anti-game” in the least.
Of course the impulses exist universally in women. But your practice encourages others to exploit them to get their nut, whereas mine — and civilization’s in general, too — is designed to protect hypergamy-addled girls against their excesses. That’s the difference. You “tell yourself” that this project is largely a waste (if not Sisyphean) because “higher class women STILL HAVE THE IMPULSES.” I say that corralling these impulses, rather than rationalizing their exploitation, is the only way to stave off civilizational disaster.
Whether it’s possible or not, the fact is, you and feminism counsels against even trying in the event you be asked to sacrifice. This is where your hedonism becomes an obstacle to general improvement. So, it is rich that you complain about decadence in half your posts when you admittedly find no shame in not just personally contributing to the decline, but teaching thousands of desperate victims of feminism to do so as well.
Our disagreement is over how well you reverse engineer your shameless hedonistic practice into a consistent philosophy, particularly in light of your other interests. All of which is fine: “A foolish consistency,” and all that. But this is awful long-term advice for the “excusable ignoramuses,” and besides, at some point you’re going to have to choose. Events will come to a head in your lifetime. Unless you’re 50-60something.
Matt
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Seconded.
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That system is already in place for women. We call it society.
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You’re right…it’s not just HUS…She just perfectly described every mainstream media site and TV show.
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That’s right.
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“Hey girls, you should marry a nice beta provider and then nail a bunch of alpha guys on the side! You’ll get all the benefits of a nice dude and a jerk at the same time! Oh and then when you get tired of nice guy, you should divorce him and keep the house and alimony!”
this is womanhood 101, passed down for generations and now perfected in the us.
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Why does there need to a blog to tell women to do this to men? Every girlfriend she has will willingly give her this beta-ball-busting advice without her even searching for it. In todays feminist world, being able to castrate a man, emotionally and financially is one of the ultimate status symbols…one that far too many divorce attorneys in America are more than happy to enable.
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“How would it be if some woman started writing a blog about how to take advantage of men and then laugh at them while they break down and cry?”
Who needs a blog when you have the State?
“And in the end, guys that sociopathic do not function well in the world.”
I’m doing fine. You are a childless and unmarried woman on the wrong side of 30.
“People who treat girls like this will somehow end up angering men too and even if women never take him down, at some men other guys will.”
Yeah but I don’t care and never will.
Toodles!
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Cryo, there are 2 options in life. A) Get on the wrong side of 30. B) Die early.
Can’t make myself born in 1993, so this is what I got. You too will get old and decrepit and die. You have nothing to gloat over.
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Yeah but when I grow old, I’ll still be awesome
Did you forget that its different for men? lol
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If this girl finds this man’s sociopath personality to be too much, she should stop talking to him. Just not respond. You assign this girl zero accountability when it’s a two-way exchange.
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How do we know she didn’t try to stop talking to him?
What I know is that some psychopath had a text exchange with a chick almost one year ago he has a hateful obsession with it. He texts her one word responses, but is diabolically aware of its effects. He’s so obsessed with destroying her that he sleeps with her best friend and then brags about destroying the friendship.
One year later, he still has this text exchange in his phone and thought about it enough to send it to a blog where it would be posted in front of thousands so he could brag about his exploits. We know nothing about this girl’s current relationship other than that the guy in the OP wants to believe that it is on the rocks because the girl is pining for him.
There might be one word responses here, but this guy is not detached. This guy has a driving obsession with destroying this girl is whatever way he can just because he can.
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if that is you in your avatar…hot bod gurlll #no homo. That being said, it is kind of pathetic that you are ascribing no blame to the girl. The girl is no more or less amoral. She was cheating on her bf while screwing this whatever youwannacallit. Pop some valium and re-evaluate before you continue. You are making yourself look stupid.
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With this screed, you illuminate your own character more than you do that of the texting guy.
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Femx still never answered Amy’s question:
“Whoa, wait a minute. How do you know she isn’t initiating everything? She’s cheating on her bf! Is this guy supposed to treat her like someone he’d take home to mom?”
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The post says the guy is dating the girl’s best friend now and that this exchange happened one year ago. It does not really give information that the girl texting had her current boyfriend at the time.
The information we have says that this guy had this text exchange with some girl a year ago and then is so in love with himself that he looks at it a year after it happened to admire his handiwork. And then he gets off on admiration from others so much that he sends the text exchange to CH. And then brags about how he nailed her best friend and ruined their friendship.
Then he is such a legend in his own mind that he needs to believe that this girl’s current relationship is going bad because she still wants him. I bet this guy is prodding her in some deeply manipulative way so that she feels that way.
This is not a case of a guy being terse just coz that’s how guys are. This is a guy that makes damn sure he emulates behaviors that will make him able to a exploit a girl to his own ends (because that’s what he needs to believe he can do). Then he uses the feeling of attachment he builds with a girl to hurt her, not just to get what he wants, but also just because. Hence, he brags about various facets of the lasting ruin done to the girl that don’t even benefit him (ruining friendship and current relationship with boyfriend).
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You are forgetting that I will still love you, baby girl.
How sad you refuse to acknowledge the soul, as if it were a mark of fearless independence rather than an obduracy leading to a solipsism impervious to rational analysis. Bags of meat rot indeed, if you really believe that’s all we are. So much for the “vibrant” life-affirming tradition you were born unto.
“Lay up for yourselves treasures … where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”
Love,
Matt
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why are you here. you think anyone will change because you whinge on. consenting adults have interesting sexual dynamics which feminist dogma does nothing to alter. embrace it. don’t text or tweet anything you’d be embarrassed to see in the Times.
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Sometimes it’s difficult. I got really trashed last night and texted (I sort of remember) my ex-gf. The text’s not in my phone (you have to choose “save”)but she texted me and said she’d call me in the morning. Damn.
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There’s a fine line between getting what you want from a woman and treating her like crap. I think its a bad idea to treat anyone like crap, because its bad Kharma in the first place, makes an ass out of yourself, and it poisons the well for the next guy. Unfortunately, this is how feminists are made and justifiably so in the world. I joke around with my wife like this and other girls I have dated too, but I always treated their feelings with respect if they treated mine in the same way.
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No matter how alpha this guy may be, game is not some kind of magical hypnotic-trance-inducing, free-will-removing, thing. She made the decision to accept his advances, and she made the decision to spread her legs for him, and she alone bears responsibility for letting herself be played.
Don’t want to end up like this girl in the texts? Don’t play the fucking game. Don’t be that girl. Have standards. Don’t follow the ‘gina tingles. Exercise your god-given capacity for self-control. This sexual apocalypse endgame that the guys around here are cleaning up on is made possible by women thinking it’s fun to act like sluts.
Simple, simple, simple.
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This reminds me of those three guys over in Europe a while back, who had an email exchange going where they had a contest going on who could sleep with the most American college girls (they were American ex-pats). Each of them had had sex with like 30 of them. Their emails got public somehow and outlets like DoubleX were hating on them and calling them assholes. I still don’t know what else they expected. If you’re willing to sleep with men you don’t even know (and let’s not play dumb, we know they’re doing that over there), this is exactly what happens. The most attractive of them sleep with dozens and brag about it. The very fact that they expected anything different, shows how they just don’t want to face the fact that actions have consequences. It’s not everyone else’s job to do, say, and think what they want to make things convenient for them so they don’t have to think about anything but their own whims.
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This is not a one night stand that someone cooly shrugs off the next day.
This is a drawn out years long plot to hurt someone as much as possible. He picked this girl because she takes the abuse.
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I’m really unsure about the backstory, especially given the texts were from last August. What’s the general timeline? Lat August she was talking about them having had sex before that, and the letter says she at some point ended up hooking him up with her bestie, and at some other point gave him sexually whatever he wanted, and now wants him again. Depending on when each of these things happened, this could end up being a lot less lurid than you seem to be imagining. (Then again maybe not, this being the Chateau.)
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@ feministix
you kinda got a pot belly
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fexy, you are not a mind reader. You have imagined a story that explains this post, and you have fleshed it with your own fears and past misadventures. This does not constitute reality; nor, really, does it constitute interesting discourse.
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This is why I’m honest with girls about my intentions and what I’m offering, and prefer sober girls. I like the girl to have consciously made the decision to fuck me based on the mutual attraction I’ve built up with her, VS just brow-beating her with psyche warfare into regretfully fucking me.
I’m totally CAPABLE of that, and there’s plenty of “dark game” PUA material for that for the guys who want to use it or just understand the dynamics behind it…AND there are certain personality types of girls who NEED that drama in their life and will get bored of a guy who doesn’t dole out a little drama now and then…
BUT, I prefer the good clean sober honest approach ideally. I love women and I don’t like making them feel shitty lol. But some of the guys I hang out with are on the other end of that and revel in the drama and manipulation…it totally works but I’ve seen the aftermath of damaged girls some of them have left in their wake and I just don’t want to be that guy. I still go by the oldschool “leave them better than you found them” PUA rule.
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I respect you for that.
This guy is not an example of what normal properly constructed men or women think a desired interaction is. People who have developed into complete human beings recognize that heterosexual people are supposed to love a member of the opposite sex. They are not just supposed to fixate on playing a game with the other person’s mind to take advantage of them so they can degrade them and then throw them away. The interaction noted here is about hate and despising someone for no reason, not love or caring or growing with each other. This is not what women secretly want in their hearts unless there is something wrong with them.
This man in the OP is like the AIDS virus bragging about how good it is at infecting Africa. It’s a possibility of human nature, but anyone that aspires to this is a moral failure.
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If you’re so concerned with “true love” then why are you flaunting your tits and cameltoe on a site populated by alphas that would gladly degrade you and then toss out your over-30 carcass?
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Why would you complain about that?
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Who’s complaining? Just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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As if complaining would cause her to cease.
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feministx, if the girl doesn’t like the way she’s being treated she can always cut him off. But I have no idea how you can get “hate and despise” out of this exchange.. at worst, it’s just indifference. If she wants to gauge this guy’s interest she can always go silent and see if he initiates contact. It’s very simple.
I think most women secretly want in their hearts a man who acts like a man. Men are capable of love and caring but they don’t express it like women do… and why would you want them to? I like being the girl in the relationship and I’m sure you do too.
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It comes down to taking value VS giving value. You can take value, and still be successful. Like you can be a dickhead CEO making your employees work on xmas and you’ll be productive and make money etc. But you can also be a CEO and treat your employees well and make them feel appreciated so they volunteer to work on xmas for you.
The PUA community started out way early on focusing on taking value because we were like “holy shit, we can GET these girls, we can trick them into banging us…they have no idea we’re nerdy and lame and they want to fuck us hahaha take that bitches!!” lol
But now we’ve evolved and we focus a lot more on teaching new guys to give value and spread good vibes instead…even tho the taking value totally worked, it wasn’t a “clean” win the way learning to just be a cool guy who spreads value to the people around him is.
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Again, rewarmed Karmic claptrap. It ultimately will not avail you.
Don’t get me wrong, though. It’s better than nothing and will do for now. And it is an order of magnitude better than the teenage-goth PUA idea of worshiping the “dark” this or the “evil” that.
Cf. CH’s latest:
Except that one doesn’t get “bored with the good good good all the time” so much as one becomes intellectually and aesthetically exhausted from the banality of evil. Eventually, a mature individual discovers the double-edged nature of evil, and how much he has been mutilating himself all the years he thought he was being independent. But evil is the opposite of freedom — of course it calls itself “freedom”! — evil is the equivalent of addiction, the drunk who has given over his will to death, and sobriety is no longer an option, just suicide. Fast or slow suicide, same ultimate destination.
In reality, the good is infinitely variable and endlessly replenishing, an exhilaration that cannot be matched. Evil is mundane. But our generation believes the opposite, that villains are jaunty and clever and having just so much fun!!! because we were raised by life-despising Hollywood rather than a plain old mother and father who loved them more than they loved themselves.
Matt
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Really? Even Augustine craved virtue…’but not yet’.
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… which he regarded as an erroneous approach emblematic of his former, frustrating, treadmill of a life.
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sure, after the fact.
I dunno- good can be pretty banal too.
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You’re doing it wrong.
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‘Except that one doesn’t get “bored with the good good good all the time”’
I’m starting to agree with this virtue stuff more and more. I mean, it’s could be just chance….but, three times girls have specifically used the word ‘courageous’ in describing me. One of them seemed like she was facile enough with language to use that kind of word often. The others, however, were less bright — so I took it to mean they were being extra precise.
Digging deeper, I interpreted what they said to mean that the act of approaching — with boldness and intent and strength — was impressive. Now, after that point, I fucked up more and more….so all they were left with was a fleeting impression of what could have been. However, that single impression bought a lot of air time. I’m unsure if I’m ready to say that five minutes of real virtue is worth……
….but, yeah it’s definitely interesting to think about. Can’t wait to fully get back out and cold approach next week.
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@Scray
“I interpreted what they said to mean that the act of approaching — with boldness and intent and strength — was impressive.”
On that note, read this Comment and my response down below:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/alpha-assessment-terseness-and-tingles-edition/#comment-456075
Leaving off the “escape hatch” is the same concept and gets that same “wow he’s courageous, that’s hot!!” reaction. You get more points for going direct and being unapologetic and unashamedly sexual than a tall good-looking dude does because for YOU to do it, you’re busting out of the societal stereotypes and blowing their mind…whereas they EXPECT that from those other guys (who often disappoint them by NOT being like that lol).
Like I say, your height is technically a “drawback” in society’s eyes, but when you understand how all these dynamics work, it really isn’t a big deal and in certain areas of pickup is actually BENEFICIAL and gives you an advantage.
Like I have a 5’2″ buddy who’s just built very small and has a child-like face so he looks like he’s too young to be in the bar for sure…so when we walk into the bar, every head turns and guys mumble “lol ain’t it past yer bedtime” (perfect AMOG opportunity to demonstrate value with a quick comeback and a wink to that guy’s girl), and girls think he’s soooo cute and giggle when he drops some aggressive sexual innuendo at them and they become intrigued. All of this is handed to him by default everywhere he goes because he’s short, so on top of being peacocked by default, he also gets tons of practice socializing and handling AMOGs and handling social pressure.
When *I* walk into that same bar? No one even notices me, because I look like just a generic random white guy…I have to actively do something to get attention, and even then I’ll only get half the attention he does and I’ll attract more negative attention because if I tool a guy the way my buddy does, with my buddy it’s cute and surreal because it’s so unexpected, with me I’ll get punched lol.
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‘You get more points for going direct and being unapologetic and unashamedly sexual than a tall good-looking dude does because for YOU to do it, you’re busting out of the societal stereotypes and blowing their mind…whereas they EXPECT that from those other guys (who often disappoint them by NOT being like that lol).’
The funny thing is, those statements weren’t even from direct approaching (I mean, I guess my body language must have been strong or whatever). Apparently, a guy talking to girls he doesn’t know is something noteworthy.
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Yes i bet that you were saying this same line at the ripe age of 20. So essentially lotsa cockazzz is always good as long as it comes with sweet rationalization flavored colors.
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I understand that you don’t revel in the “dark” aspect of game. Do you honestly think you’re leaving them better than you found them, though? In other words, once you’ve left them, are they really “better” emotionally/ mentally than they were before you met? Or do you think they’re saddened/ hurt? I’ve never been able to let myself off the hook so easy. Guilt is always there if I break off a relationship with a chick. You even said “I don’t like making them feel shitty lol” which to me implies you know the real score.
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Yes.
http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=Leave+them+better
But keep in mind that I take a pro-active approach to it because it’s important to me.
The mistake a lot of guys make is that they rush in like a bull in a china shop, tear the place up, then go “okay how do I get the bull out of here without breaking any dishes?” My method is more “okay before we go in there, lets figure out how to keep this bull from destroying everything and lets bring a few extra plates as a gift to give the shopkeeper just because we have a lot of plates at home and we’re kind and generous that way. And lets make the shopkeeper feel good about themselves and their decision to let us bring a bull into their shop.”
This is the same mistake guys make with setting up casual or open relationships. They go follow a traditional route and THEN ask “okay how do I make this a casual lay” when they should’ve been pro-active and laid the psychological groundwork for that from the start.
Or in a bar fight situation. They get squared off with the guy and go “okay now what line do I use to avoid a fight?” when they should’ve been pro-actively avoiding the situation getting to that point in the first place.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: my former lays LIKE me. I have Natural buddies who are bulls in a china shop and do massive damage to girl who are just messes by the end and hate them and ALL men etc. My girls have nothing but good to say about me (or neutral if we were just a one time fling). Because I didn’t hurt them and often helped them improve their lives or sort some of their shit out or kick bad habits or get the confidence to go for a guy they like or to trust men again or to embrace their sexy/slutty side in the bedroom that society told them to be ashamed of so they can overall embrace being more feminine, or just to have a bunch of mind-blowing toe-curling orgasms.
It’s possible to do good in the world. You just have to WANT to, and you have to accept that sometimes you won’t get the girl or won’t want to get her because it won’t be a situation where you can do good for her. But that’s fine when you have an abundance mentality, there will be other girls.
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*clap clap clap*
More like you, please.
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… And women respond.
See infra at 11:12 am.
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“More like you, please.”
That’s what I’m trying to create with my 400000 pages of comments I’ve written lol
Pickup and Game is like martial arts. You can use it to be a bully, but a good teacher will try to instill a sense of morals in his students and encourage them to use it for good. Like even if I never talked to Scray or Immoralgables again, I know they’re going to spread some good and pay it forward in general. I’m not creating killing machines spreading death and despair leaving broken husks of damaged women in their wake like the Jezzies have painted PUAs lol
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it’s impossible to leave a woman better than you find her…because by the time your done she’s that much older lol
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Rim shot funny.
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lol “leave them better than you found them” yeah ok.
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“Obsolete” and “weak” morality pops up in the strangest places. Odd, innit?
And women respond. Curiouser and curiouser.
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Chateau Girltits?
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I see the point of this post. I mean, you can’t help who you’re attracted to. So ya, if someone takes advantage of that….it’s kind of fucked up, I agree. The people who say things like ‘well she should just not talk to him ever again’……I mean, really?
Imagine you banged an awesome (feminine, 9 in looks, everything you’d ever want in a woman) who then proceeded to treat you like shit/be aloof after those first few encounters. You’d just walk away instantly? RLY.
It’s just an extension of the argument ‘ya if u hate the country so much, PICK UP AND LEAVE LOL’
Personally, I truly believe that learning how to -give- value and build the people around you up in a meaningful way will go way, way further with both sexes than learning how to take value. But that’s just a personal outlook.
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“Imagine you banged an awesome (feminine, 9 in looks, everything you’d ever want in a woman) who then proceeded to treat you like shit/be aloof after those first few encounters. You’d just walk away instantly? RLY. ”
Sociopaths take advantage of all kinds of people at all kinds of levels. I read a book about sociopaths and there was a lady that pretended to be a psychiatrist and got recommendations to be faculty at a hospital. Then she’d mess with her patients minds just for fun. These people are taking advantage of corporations and hospitals. Is it so hard to see how some girl still in the ‘lunch money’ stage of her life can’t understand better than this?
Not long ago this blog had a post about how one could use all the same alpha behaviors on their bosses and that it would gain them favor there too. It’s not only women that are drawn to this behavior and its not only women that can be taken advantage of with this behavior.
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Ooooh you read a book! Was it with pages and everything?
Well boys, this changes everything! Time for us to pack up and shut down the man-o-sphere because some random chick somewhere on the planet has read a BOOK that says in there that we all be wrong!
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Bitter chump. Sarcasm is the least form of wit. And your abject witlessness fails to clear even this lowest possible bar.
Improve yourself.
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“Sarcasm is the least form of wit.”
In that case, you’re the most witless person here.
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I hate to use the word “creepy”, but your obsession with Matt King is veering dangerously close to that territory.
Let it go, ankle biter.
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Point to a single sarcastic post of mine, dimwit. If you can find any at all, the hit-rate will be somewhere in the neighborhood of one-in-a-hundred. Do you know what the word means?
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach. Those who can do neither, criticize. Those who can’t even properly criticize, snark. Sit in the cheap seats and loudly congratulate themselves about how ironic-cool they’d be if they wanted to.
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I said she she should go silent if she is bothered by his responses and wants to gauge his interest. And yes, if the situation were reversed and the girl was doing this (and it bothered the guy) then I think he should withdraw contact …or even just say “next” and move on. So with these options available, how is the guy taking advantage? Now, if the backstory is that he took her out and pretended he wanted a relationship just to dump her immediately after sex, and has been noncommunitive since then, it’s a little different. But something tells me that’s not the backstory.
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Its your own fault, for not policing other women, particularly the hot ones. Hot women love love love jerks, guess what?
Men will try to be the jerkiest jerks they can be. Men will be whatever women want. Your beef is not with us. It is with women. For wanting jerks.
When and if (which will be NEVER) the hottest, youngest, tightest girls sleep with nice guys and reliable decent ones, men will be just that. Which will be of course, never.
And if women feel (and they do) not a drop of sympathy for beta males, why would they expect any in return? I thought it was hilarious.
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Tomahawk dunk
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You can’t deny results.
Assuming the pictures from your profile are really you, and assuming you’re not a troll, acting like this is the only way to compete with your hypergamous instincts to desire an alpha male.
I have no doubt that if I started giving you a disproportionate amount of dignity and respect at the expense of acting like “Nah-man” and “Skittles man,” you’d no doubt add me to the laundry list of beta orbiters you have at your disposal who will do your bidding on command and be grateful for simply getting a tiny amount of attention.
Until you and the rest of your gender deny your biological instincts to accept and secretly desire being treated like this, I’m going to stick with what works.
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This isn’t a result tho lol. it’s a mistake to say ‘o he must have value BECAUSE he used -nah- and was terse.’
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Just because YOU can’t display value while being terse doesn’t mean it isn’t possible, Mr. Truth By Assertion. I pull nice ass with just a basic deployment of “indirect verbal, direct body language” and I hardly have to open my mouth.
If you truly have “value” and aren’t just trying to front with mind games, it will come across in your demeanor, mannerisms, and even show in your eyes. Yes, you can’t just stand there like a statue and expect cunt to fall on your dick. But when you reach the state in which you have nothing to prove to anyone and are in touch with your core, the value is self-evident.
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Ya ya ya… When I see someone in field not relying on looks/already established value to pull this ‘terse’ stuff off I’ll believe you.
And I didn’t say display value…..I said HAVE value BECAUSE of the terseness. So all of that body language stuff you’re talking about =\= terseness.
[CH: The general rule is that if you’re speaking fewer words than the girl at all points across the seduction trajectory (except perhaps the very beginning when you have to capture her attention), you’re doing it right.]
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Well just saying less than a girl doesn’t necessarily = terseness. If a girl speaks three paragraphs and you respond with one or two, you’re saying less than her…but you also aren’t being terse.
Further, going to the except perhaps the very beginning when you have to capture her attention part….well, that’s where you’re building value. Unless you are very tall, very good-looking (relative to target), i.e. have a lot of passive value….it’s kinda hard to build much value being terse.
Terseness seems to work because it’s a takeaway. You have GIVEN value, but you are establishing that it doesn’t come cheap, which maintains the value you built up. Really, it’s just an optimal play. Like you could be more loquacious if you wanted to, but you run the extreme risk of putting foot in mouth or coming off as tryhard — both of which lower value.
It’s like, you do a lot of active stuff (which includes body language, delivery, etc.) to raise your value to 10….and the longer you maintain your value at 10, the more she believes you are actually a 10 value man.
So I don’t see how what I’m saying is inconsistent with the general rule.
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“So I don’t see how what I’m saying is inconsistent with the general rule.”
It’s not, there just a miscommunication because you’re looking deeper into the pickup than other guys (probably because you’re short so for you you HAVE to be aware of how building/displaying value works, whereas a good looking rich tall guy thinks he “just says hello”).
ie – these guys are just looking at after she knows he’s high value (however he demonstrated that) and how it works at that point. You’re looking at “but he has to have established that value first somehow for this to work”.
You can say literally nothing and get the girl…if, when you walk in, you walk in with 2 girls on your arm, shake hands with a manager, dominate your social circle of alpha males, etc. you could just hand her your phone and she’d put her number in, but you’ve established high value with all this other stuff.
Can a homeless smelly old man carrying a bottle of booze just hand girls a phone and get their number? No. Well what if he just doesn’t say any words either? Still no. So you HAVE to conclude that it’s not the “talking less than her” that’s attractive…and that’s “establishing high value”. Convince the girl that the homeless guy is secretly a millionaire adventure badass playboy who’s just researching an acting role and he can get her number with one word.
Scray is noticing this disconnect because as a short guy he starts at a deficit based on society’s standards, so he’s like the homeless guy (lol no offense dude). He knows Jumbotron game won’t work for him on a cold approach because she doesn’t know he’s high-value yet. So he demonstrates it with his attitude, body language, dressing good, dominating girls around him, etc. THEN he can do Jumbotron game if he wants to, but if he just creeps silently out of the shadows as a low value schlub, Jumbotron won’t work.
Literally the article’s txt message is the equivalent to me of a guy bragging about how he totally banged his wife last night. Like, there’s no game in there, he clearly already has value to her.
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I’m fascinated that people think terse is synonymous with disrespectful, undignified, and/or cruel. I’m very big on respect…. both giving and getting. I launched a guy just a few months ago for being disrespectful. But… giving short, noncommittal answers in text messages is not necessarily disrespectful. It’s just a typical guy. I like guys who act like guys and I like to be the girl in the relationship. And that usually means I text about 10 words to his one. If these two aren’t in a relationship, she can always cut contact completely to gauge his interest…. if he doesn’t initiate contact, he’s not interested and it’s time to move on.
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“Until you and the rest of your gender deny your biological instincts to accept and secretly desire being treated like this, I’m going to stick with what works.”
I don’t have the slightest desire to be treated like this, and I don’t even know where I would find someone this pathologically cruel. I’ve dated a jerk or two in my life, and I don’t think anyone would call my current bo blameless, but I have never even encountered a dude that would ever make me give him money (the chick remembers this, so I don’t get the impression that this was a matter of casually needing a few bucks). I never encountered a dude that would sit there and think about how he could put in as little effort as possible to get more and more sex out of me to the point where he was so infatuated with himself and his work that he admired his text exchanges with me one year after they happened. Never been with a guy that dated my best friend after and then was pleased that I could no longer be friends with her.
I have no desire secret or otherwise to ever meet anyone this sick. I just want some guy to find me somehow and own me and control me and love me forever.
Cynthia said it correctly somewhere below. Women don’t want snivelling betas but they certainly don’t want this either, and the girls who end up with this are probably nicer and more pleasing than average. Hence, they can be taken advantage of more.
And don’t that this dude is pulling hotter girls because he’s like this. I bet this girl is below what this guy could get in terms of looks. He’s probably making sacrifices in looks in favor of willingness to take abuse.
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I never encountered a dude that would sit there and think about how he could put in as little effort as possible to get more and more sex out of me to the point where he was so infatuated with himself and his work that he admired his text exchanges with me one year after they happened.
Careful now, some people might read that sentence as though you were pissed off and feministix about not having that experience.
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“I just want some guy to find me somehow and own me and control me and love me forever.”
Does your boyfriend know this? You are just as sociopathic as the man you’re ranting against, stringing along a decent guy while complaining about his sexual prowess on a public forum. Not to mention the scantily-clad photos you love to display (look at me!).
“I never encountered a dude that would sit there and think about how he could put in as little effort as possible to get more and more sex out of me to the point where he was so infatuated with himself and his work that he admired his text exchanges with me one year after they happened.”
Are you really so stupid to believe that if you did encounter such a man that he would verbalize it to you? How can you possibly know what goes on in the life of a mind not your own?
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That’s the point I would have made if you hadn’t beat me to it. Banging a married man, without even enjoying it, and siphoning resources from him in exchange isn’t exactly an example of virtue.
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So she’s freaking out because she just saw herself, mirrored?
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“I’ve dated a jerk or two in my life, and I don’t think anyone would call my current bo blameless”
Game, set, and match. You can’t deny results.
“but I have never even encountered a dude that would ever make me give him money”
Perhaps not, but I’m sure you’re guilty of at least one of the following: (1) running over to alpha’s house at 4am when it’s clear you were the last option after he struck out at the club, (2) accepting and tolerating verbal or physical abuse to the dismay of all of your friends, (3) taking an alpha back after he has cheated on you and put your sexual health at risk by not using a condom when he did, or (4) waiting patiently by the phone while an alpha stood you up or otherwise broke a promise to spend time with you/go to your show/attend your friend’s dinner party/etc.
“I never encountered a dude that would sit there and think about how he could put in as little effort as possible to get more and more sex out of me to the point where he was so infatuated with himself and his work that he admired his text exchanges with me one year after they happened.”
Again, assuming your profile pics are real, it’s no surprise that you’ve never sat around when guys have Guy Talk because they’d be afraid that you’d stomp off in a fuss and there goes the hot chick we all wanted to hang out with. We also don’t engage in Guy Talk around rabid feminists.
But Guy Talk is a common thing. I still brag about instances where I made hot, desirable women submit to my will months after the fact, and so do most of my friends. EVEN BETAS DO THIS. It’s a natural outflow of a man’s thirst for competition. “Remember Brittany, and how she saw me making out with that chick on the dance floor and then came over that night and ______ my brains out?” “Haha, ya. Remember when I told Kerry that I didn’t want to be in a relationship and she still came over and cooked me dinner whenever I asked and gave me ____ in the kitchen?” I think you get the idea.
“Never been with a guy that dated my best friend after and then was pleased that I could no longer be friends with her.”
Probably because all of your friends are ugly. Hot chicks like you rarely keep hotter friends around because they don’t like the competition.
“Women don’t want snivelling betas but they certainly don’t want this either”
Yes they do.
“the girls who end up with this are probably nicer and more pleasing than average”
Or they’ve been expertly placed into submission by the powerful game of an alpha male who is a master of his craft.
“And don’t that this dude is pulling hotter girls because he’s like this. I bet this girl is below what this guy could get in terms of looks. He’s probably making sacrifices in looks in favor of willingness to take abuse.”
Don’t jump to conclusions. You very well may be right. If he’s an 8 and she’s a 4, she’s going to put up with a lot of abuse. But I don’t know what he looks like. And I don’t know what she looks like. The fact that she was using a vibrator in the bedroom nevertheless suggests that she has a high level of experience, so unless she’s a beluga who sleeps with anyone it’s at least probable that she’s easy on the eyes.
But all of that is beside the point. I’ve slept with over 100 women of all shapes, sizes, colors, and feminist ideologies. This shit works. It works with girls like you, it works with the fatties, it works with the plain janes, and it works with the churchgoing folk. It. Just. Works.
Don’t deny your biology. And don’t appease the mass of betas who flock to this site looking for answers as to why girls like you ignore them, lead them on, use them, manipulate them, treat them like an employee, tell them you just want to be friends, or get into a relationship and cheat on them by misleading these betas into thinking that not all girls are like this.
All girls are like this.
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“Bo” is spelled “beau.” It’s not the masculine form of “boo” from the Ebonic. HTH.
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I spent way to long trying to figure that out as an acronym.
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Body Odor … Box Office … Barack Obama … Barack Obama’s dog …
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Fem, maybe I’m the only who thinks so, but this seems out of character and do you really not know how to spell beau?
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“How would it be if some woman started writing a blog about how to take advantage of men ”
http://jezebel.com/
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As if the government wasn’t already engaged in an intergender wealth transfer from men to women, and to put further sting into it, from sexless betas to women who won’t look at them twice who are banging guys who could give a shit about them.
Turns out the Patriarchy had some things right.
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Can’t believe I agree with you fx. Well said. Truth or consequence. Say it aloud.
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You done?
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What’s funny is that plenty of girls do, as you put it, marry the beta, nail the alphas, get the benefits, divorce the beta, get the house and the alimony all the time. It’s a very common occurrence in western countries.
Credit where credit is due, they have to decency to not create a blog and laugh about it, but feministx sweetheart, you’re a fool if you think this behaviour is exclusive to guys.
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“Hey girls, you should marry a nice beta provider and then nail a bunch of alpha guys on the side! You’ll get all the benefits of a nice dude and a jerk at the same time! Oh and then when you get tired of nice guy, you should divorce him and keep the house and alimony!”
No web site needed. They apparently all understand this instinctively.
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Nice one FemX. I agree with standing up for the little guy, even if it’s a she. Straight up glee at mocking those still capable of love is repugnant, and it’s a genuine, not imagined slippery slope from managing your image a bit to maximize attractiveness, to becoming a toxic emotional leech.
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And of course you conflate the personal with the political like a good lefty. That’s your entire agenda, which leads to a perversion of both the personal and the political.
Deus Caritas Est
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Yes, Matthew, I like the little people who humbly and helpfully carry out their tasks in life and are not glorified. Even inflated keyboard masturbators like you aren’t too bad unless you start spouting the pro-genocide crap.
Jesus said “What you do to the least of you you do to me.” It’s how we lefties distinguish quality, humble conservatives who are reasonable, cautious people from dangerous, inflated, reaktionary megalomaniacs.
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Yeah, but he was only talking to Galileans.
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No. Lefties confuse one’s personal responsibilities to his neighbor as the world’s responsibilities to everyone. They gave at the office, so they don’t have to help the man in need in front of their face. They preach about the evils of alcoholism but are too busy to drive an uncle to AA.
Lefties contract-out their “compassion,” thinking their moral obligation begins and ends by paying taxes. They travel the concentric circles of trust — self, family, community, state, country, mankind — from outside-in rather than the humane inside-out. Their sympathy is an abstraction.
Lefties become self-righteous about how concerned they are for their fellow man while their parents decompose in a nursing home. They give to Amnesty International but don’t give a shit about how divorce will ruin their own children. They relieve the charitable instinct through high dudgeon and blog rants while not putting a dime in the collection basket (“What’s a collection basket?”).
Lefties love humanity but hate human beings. Whoops! they just killed 100,000,000 of them to save the hayseed Kulaks from their intellectual errors. Like Lenin said, can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
And lefties make politics personal. They refuse to talk to their brother who voted for that Romney guy. They are outraged that the state won’t buy them an endless supply of rubbers. If someone has a different approach to the same political goals, he is mentally deficient, or insane, or perverse, or deliberately malicious. (With USSC’s Windsor ruling a couple weeks ago, this junior-high debate tactic has become the “supreme” “law” of the land.)
There is precisely zero content to lefties’ power-grab of a governing philosophy beyond, “The Personal is Political.” They seek power simply to exercise it, and they believe their positions unassailable. In other words, they are busybodies with no virtuous direction beyond the general “improvement” of the poor suffering proles’ lives. All this highfalutin intervention amounts to is fucking with people who just want to be left alone. The politics of annoying the living shit out of everyone.
Like you and every other daft “progressive” twerp demonstrate here daily. In practically every comment.
Matt
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Love is war.
We used to have a system for aligning male and female interests. They could agree to an indissoluble marriage in which each had a duty to sexually gratify the other regardless of whether they were in the mood or not, and regardless of whether the wife felt the husband was making her haaaaapy.. Unfortunately that contract is no longer enforced, so conflict ensues.
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Glad you’re here. I can NOT wait for the Jim vs. Matthew King fights to erupt.
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Tell this to my ex who sent me a video of her fucking this guy she was “friends” with. Hypocrutical Cunts like you and her will be treated exactly like this.
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Hermitsy, that’s horrible. May I suggest you try to pick a woman with more emotional sensitivity, who wouldn’t do something like that to someone just because things went sour.
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A blind Inuit amputee, perhaps.
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Red Pill Helen Keller.
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Cunty move, but exceedingly dumb. There’s so much you can do with that video now…
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I’ve read your blog before and you casually talk about how you want to cheat on your boyfriend but don’t want to leave him because he takes care of you. So I don’t think you’re really one to talk.
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You’re getting soft, beti.
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feministx,
You’re totally right. But please stop giving these guys insight. Let them be shitty seducers, who get girls who are tramps. Every good seducer knows you need to at least fake empathy. At least if you are going for the “rare” girl, which really is the only interesting thing seducers want anyway. The sexual-confidence-empathy trait triangle gets the hot/worthy girls. I am not saying the empathy needs to be real, but it definitely needs to be at least feigned.
This blog is about getting shitty girls, so guys can feel like “alpha” males. Anyone smart true alpha male on this blog knows it and is bored by the low class chicks anyway. They won’t be attracted to the girl who takes this shit.
[CH: 2 out of 10 troll. Would not dupe again.]
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You’re totally wrong. So please stop giving those of us working to make fine distinctions a bad name. They’re confused enough.
No wonder it’s straw men all the way down, when trolls like you are enthusiastically fitting yourself into their readymade definitions.
Not all women are sluts, and game is universally effective. This isn’t because hypergamy doesn’t exist in high-class women, it’s because we have removed manliness from the equation and have given our impulses free rein to stampede the sexual marketplace, which is an unprecedented social disaster at the heart of our decline. Those girls who are not cut out for the slut-life are thrust into it anyway. Their options have been curtailed in the name of grrrl power.
You do nothing but destroy your credibility (and through unwanted proximity, mine) by denying the obvious facts on the ground. Reforming the slut culture cannot be achieved either by refusing to acknowledge its existence or by pretending it will naturally correct itself by allowing “hot/worthy” girls to police their own instincts.
Matt
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Not all women are sluts, but too many of the ostensibly good ones are: pretty, smart women from stable middle-class families. How many gold bars must we find to be slugged with tungsten before we give up on gold?
The answer isn’t poolside indolence. It’s to drop-kick an entire cohort of women over the wall, then marry the teenagers.
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I believe my work is done here. I’m proud like a papa.
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Thanks to you, proud papa of atheist hindu girls.
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He could have just replied “Ok”. I definitely laughed reading this; it’s exactly how the guy I’m interested in texts me.
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He sounds like a keeper haha
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feministx: That site already exists; it’s called “Hooking Up Smart”. It’s essentially a site about how women can use red pill knowledge to finesse the system to get all of the tradcon benefits plus all of the benefits of our man-hating society at the same time.
Though I admit, this post is kind of disturbing. To me, it’s disturbing because /this is what works/.
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this. women are stupid. see Amy’s comment above. Even when women like Amy and FemX are aware of sites like this blog, they still admit they want badboys.
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Um, why am I stupid for being ok with a guy giving short one word answers in text conversations? Guys talk less than girls and they text less… it’s just the way it is. It seems natural. Obviously if her text was something more serious such as “my aunt died last night”, replying “Ok” is not very cool. But she’s just going down memory lane here.
[CH: You’re not stupid. You’re a woman who’s comfortable with her female nature. But some women don’t like their own natures and rebel against it, or demand that sanctions against revealing it are upheld.]
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Women want a man – who walks and talks like a man – to take care of her. No woman wants to be suffocated by beta-male niceness. No woman wants to be used by an alpha jerk. Big difference between rubbing one out while watching Sons of Anarchy, and living with an actual relationship with a man like that. Most women understand this (at least at a gut level).
Laconic texting does not a gun-running motorcycle gang president bad boy make.
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the chick was single at the time of events
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Disagree. This isn’t an example of tight game IMHROOKIEO. The dude already has sky high value, and so he can say (or not say) anything he wants. So….I mean, it’s an example of not fucking up sky high value I guess.
The real art is to both BUILD value and pass the jumbotron test simultaneously ==>
Her: who is this? (ya, means I have low value to her…starting at deficit)
Me: hopefully nxt guy u regret sleeping with. hai.
Her: lol wat is ur name
Me: will johnson 😉
Her: lmao dumbass
Me: u should be nice to will johnson
Her: is this that guy from weds? (value building……)
Me: ya…WILL JOHNSON ffs dummy
Her: that’s not what you said your name was!
Me: …..o shit. who is THIS?
Her: lmfao cant keep ur girls straight
Me: (later) hey tomorrow u should tag along at venue x
Her: i dont get off work til 9 if thats ok
Me: fuck u call in
Her: i cant lol pushy
Me: ok u tried ur best. see u then.
I’m not saying this is PERFECT or THE BEST. But what I’m saying is that it got me a successful day 2 with that 6.5 and required actual value building. Just my 2 cents.
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Thinking about it more…like, if this is just an example of ‘look this guy has sky high value to a girl = alpha to her,’ then ya I can agree with that. But sometimes the alpha assessments seem like they’re about “alpha in the face of pressure.”
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“Disagree. This isn’t an example of tight game IMHROOKIEO. The dude already has sky high value, and so he can say (or not say) anything he wants. So….I mean, it’s an example of not fucking up sky high value I guess.”
This. Was coming here to post this. If he doesn’t already have high value to the girl, that style of txting won’t work. It will go like this:
Him: “hey”
Her: “hi”
Him: “How goes”
Her: “Good”
Him: “Cool”
(then she just stops txting…2 days later he tries again):
Him: “we should hang out”
Her: “I’m kind of busy this week”
Him: “gay”
(then silence, followed by NEXT’ing her and bragging that he totally ditched that bitch and showed her who’s boss because she’s a frigid lesbian)
You have to establish higher value specifically to HER first (vs just objectively to society being higher value by having money looks etc, doesn’t mean shit, SHE has to view you as high value). There are a ton of ways to do that, in person, in the initial pickup, over txt/phone, on a Day 2, etc.
Anyway here’s my obligatory counter-argument to the Jumbotron. Note that I actually like txting lol so literally *I* would be bored having these Jumbotron conversations.
http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=Verbose
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lol I only say it because I’ve TRIED it in the wrong situs and it DOESN’T work without the value hahaha. I mean, as I resolve this ‘flake’ situation, I’m getting really into trying to supplement/add value through texts…and I’m finding that longer/more fun texts are better for that purpose.
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‘u tried ur best’. haha like that framing. I do longer texts generally. I texted a 7 for awhile using long but spaced out texts. She was doing the same thing. Seemed to work fine, got her out twice and she was saying things like ‘hope I didn’t bore you too much’ but I botched it on 2nd night when I kissed way too long and she actually was the one to finally pull away – just plain dumb of me lol. I knew better I’m just a horndog sometimes. Needless to say I couldn’t get her out again.
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‘Seemed to work fine, got her out twice and she was saying things like ‘hope I didn’t bore you too much’ but I botched it on 2nd night’
So, I notice this too….and tbh I legit think that sometimes they are giving you a hint to be more fun and engaging. Like, sometimes they legit just think you have super skyhigh value — but if they aren’t ramming their tongues down your throat, it’s possible that the *hint hint* be cooler *hint hint* could be tru.
‘Needless to say I couldn’t get her out again.’
The fuck you can’t bro. It’s never over. I have a friend who has built a life out of non-cold approach puss-getting. It’s a constant stream of online messaging, texting, social circle gatherings, etc. He’s gotten several girls to go out again after a botched date or flake or whatever months later….even when they haven’t responded to like 10 consecutive texts (spaced out by hours, then days, then weeks, accordingly). Granted, he’s always getting new leads and farming them too, but…you get the point lol
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“He’s gotten several girls to go out again after a botched date or flake or whatever months later….even when they haven’t responded to like 10 consecutive texts (spaced out by hours, then days, then weeks, accordingly). Granted, he’s always getting new leads and farming them too, but…you get the point lol”
This, also. At 10:30 in this super old Tyler seminar:
[audio src="http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/realsocialdynamics.com_audio.mp3" /]
The key part is where he doesn’t get the girl but is like “a few weeks later I called her again to see if I could turn it around…months later when she’s deleted my number, she picks up”. And then he just controls the frame and acts like nothing happened and just assumes attraction/value and builds attraction again, then is like “how come we never hung out, i never got that, you should come over.” and pushes for the close again.
Granted your situ might be different/awkard, like that girl could be married to your brother right now or some shit lol. But if she’s a random, you had enough attraction to get her out and make out, and your game has probably gotten better since then, so feel free to give it another go and see if you can turn it around. Basically just act as if nothing went wrong and you had just met her this weekend and she was a fresh start. As long as you can give her good emotions and spike them and get her attracted etc, she’ll forget all about how raging horny you were lol
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@Scray
“lol I only say it because I’ve TRIED it in the wrong situs and it DOESN’T work without the value hahaha”
I know it for the same reason. 🙂 Field Experience is king lol
Like I always say, when you do something and get two different results with it, you have to drill down deeper to figure out why you’re getting two different results. So jumbotron txting works sometimes and not other times, and verbose txting works sometimes and not other times. So then drill down deeper and look at what commonalities are there when jumbotron works, and how do those cross-check with when verbose works.
Keep digging and you produce the diamond of: it comes down to higher value. A distilled concept that we can universally apply, and look at other concepts to figure out how/where we can link them to this concept and where else we can apply it and how we can manipulate or capitalize on it.
“I mean, as I resolve this ‘flake’ situation, I’m getting really into trying to supplement/add value through texts…and I’m finding that longer/more fun texts are better for that purpose.”
Personally I enjoy it. I was a nerd growing up, so I was on IRC, ICQ, MSN, etc. all my life (even BBS’es before that for the old guys here lol). So to me txting is just like that. I have my phone with me 24/7 and just txt thru my day.
One of my buddies and I, when we pre-drink and play xbox on fri/sat nights, we have to constantly pause the xbox because every 2-5 minutes one of our phones will go off and we have to just pop off a txt. It doesn’t annoy us because it’s happening to both of us and we just understand “gotta’ put some time in if you want pussy”…whereas buddies who don’t get laid or have girls txting them get mad at us for having to pause the game so frequently lol
txting a lot is fine, as long as it’s going somewhere and as long as you’re banging her and can manage when to push/pull and run her through emotions and ignore her now and then (give her the gift of missing you) etc. Too many guys try to misapply being aloof jumbotrons and do it before they have value, or when she needs more (“my dad died today”), or right when they almost had her or could’ve had her they think “gotta’ back off and ignore her for 2 days” and the vibe is dead by then when they could’ve fucked her that night with a couple more txts etc. etc.
@Cragsleeper
“Seemed to work fine, got her out twice and she was saying things like ‘hope I didn’t bore you too much’ but I botched it on 2nd night when I kissed way too long and she actually was the one to finally pull away – just plain dumb of me lol. I knew better I’m just a horndog sometimes. Needless to say I couldn’t get her out again.”
lol. Happens to all of us. Some shit to consider:
1) if you can’t seal the deal that night (whether you don’t want to, or whether logistics are bad, or whether you think you’ll get way too much Last Minute Resistance to be able to pull it off because she needs more comfort/game, etc., don’t make out with her hardcore…just kiss her with a romantic kiss and be the first to pull away.
2) you might not have moved fast enough if you didn’t try to seal the deal that night…ie – you had two dates where you’re already making out but if you didn’t figure out how to push it to sex then she might label you as “this guy doesn’t know how to make this happen, ughhhg frustrating” and not come out again.
Just throwing those two things out there. 🙂 I always try to fuck on the 2nd date at the latest. I’m actually messing with this next week for fun…I’m meeting up with a super hottie (totally my type looks-wise) and I know she WANTS to bang but she’s nervous about it and wants to “just have drinks, no funny business”. I CAN escalate to banging her that night, but for fun I’m going to just build as much sexual tension as possible and like, move in close for a kiss but then not quite actually kiss her, etc. and then at the end move in real close, cup her cheek with my hand, look her in the eyes, start to move in, then stop and go “well, I promised I’d be a gentleman, have a good night! :)” and abruptly turn and walk away.
She’ll either chase me down and jump my bones or send me a fuckton of angry horny frustrated txts and then demand I fuck her next time we hang out…either way is funny to me and a win, but I feel like slow-playing it just for the practice/entertainment.
But notice that in doing this I’m following the rule above of not kissing her if I don’t intend to seal the deal that night, and it’s our first date so it should lead to sex within the 2 dates timeframe.
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@ya – the big thing here with this last bit, is that you’re the one deciding if there will be sex or not – megaframeshift
great stuff
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P.S. that was solid-ass txting. Like you say you started from a deficit but you set a sexual frame and pushed towards an actual meetup (“pushy lol” she loves it), and plowed towards the meetup despite her working late, etc
No surprise at all that it worked and ya, going from “who’s this?” to a date takes more game than going from “I want to fuck you” to “I still want to fuck you” lol
That’s not to say there aren’t lessons to be learned from the OP’s screenshot, it’s a good example of how when you have value to the girl the lol or non-lol doesn’t matter, and how you should always be calibrating to “how much value does she think I have?”
Like that’s a good lesson to take away. Sure you got her number but how solid is it? Did she see you with other girls and your entourage and shaking the managers hand? Or did you establish solid rapport and comfort? Or was it a 5 min #-close on your way to the bar? And even then did you do something in that 5 min to establish high value to her because the 5 min part is irrelevant, you can get a 5 min # with low value or high value, THAT’S the relevant part.
And if your value is lower to her, even if you were on fire like a boss all night fucking playboy models in the bathroom, if she saw you pooped at the end in a McDonalds, she has no idea what a god you were because you ARE high-value but to her you haven’t DEMONSTRATED high-value yet (tho you’d probably ooze it from state after a night like that lol)…so then you have to ask yourself: “how can I build my value to her?”
And that’s where game tactics come in.
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Scray,
Nice work my man. I’m stealing some of that for when I’m in situations where the girl says “Who is this?”
[Me: u should be nice to will johnson]
Classic
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Thanks, I caught a break for sure.
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Deep Question:
If you have a 9-10 and slightly bi gf, do you go for the threesome? No woman wants to share an alpha, so this is a prescription for drama. Thoughts?
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Yes go for the threesome, comeon man. Having a bi gf will inevitably lead to drama regardless so might as well go out swinging your dick around
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Always go for the threesome, always try to bang the hottest girls as possible, the earth revolves around the sun.
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Relevant part for your situ in the 2nd half of this video when he’s talking about li’l wayne & deadmau5:
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Mean and uncaring guys ARE the hottest and most attractive to me, trying to change one and get him to be loving is so addictive. The best thing I’ve found for bringing out the loving side of this kind of man is speaking in a soft and sweet little girl voice! It brings the ‘nice’ out of a mean guy! Getting nice and loving moments out of guys like that is SO satisfying, pure happiness! 😀
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What a miserable life you have ahead of yourself. Part of me just feels utter pity for them. They get 10 to 15 years to find a decent guy and they just waste it. Then the wall stares them down and they are screwed.
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Shut the fuck up.
… wet yet?
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masculine feminine polarity FTW
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You have it the wrong way around..
The most attractive and hottest guys are the ones that can be and are allowed to get away with being mean and uncaring because the female hypergamous rationalisation hamster allows it and thrives on it by spinning ever the faster.
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I dated a girl like you in the past year.
You were always so damn sweet. Feminine voice just like you said. Would always cook, offer massages, do stuff that I wanted to like.
You would shit-test but through Chateau I was able to understand and play it to my advantage. You were crazy attracted to me and I tried to make sure the sex was the best you had. Thanks for wearing the red lingerie when I requested and for cleaning your room and having candles lit and everything.
You were by far the nicest girl I’ve dated and definitely raised the bar for what kind of relationships I expect in the future. Do understand that it was a learning process for me so if I was too much of an asshole it was because I wasn’t calibrated yet (still working on it.)
Hopefully I set the frame of the relationship well enough so that you weren’t surprised when I ended things and went completely cold on you. I hope you weren’t surprised by what I did and I want you to be with someone who has the same long-term goals as yourself.
I’m not that guy. You knew that though but maybe I wasn’t congruent with it 100%. I was that fun, young, fling; and now I’m gone.
-IG
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That’s your hamster speaking
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the acronym ‘lol’ gets too much hate from the manosphere. i find it invaluable for lightening up a conversation and providing a sense of playfulness and sexual mischief to what could otherwise be interpreted as an overly serious creepy comment.
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Totally agree. I give much credit to YaReally for improving the discussion of text game here. The more terse text communication style that Heartiste generally advocates is great [b]when you’re already fucking a girl[/b] and want to project aloofness. When you are in the initial stages though, the cock/funny/playful style works much better (at least if it’s congruent with your demeanor).
You can be aloof once she’s the one chasing you, not before.
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I’m not a fan of “lol,” but I’ll take it over “hehe” any day. Every time I see a “hehe,” I form a mental image of him giggling like a pretty pretty princess while pouring tea for his dollies.
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“I form a mental image of him giggling like a pretty pretty princess while pouring tea for his dollies.”
What? Is that NOT your type? wtf am I gonna’ do with all these dolls now, fuck. hehe.
On that note: I’ll sometimes calibrate to the girl. Some girls are heavy on the lols and winky faces and shit, and those ones I’ll lol and emoticon like normal…but now and then I’ll meet a girl who never uses any of that stuff and I’ve found that those girls tend to want their guy to not use any of that stuff either because it makes him seem girlier/gayer and less attractive to her…ie – she wants more of a jumbotron aloof style txting guy. When I notice she’s that type, I’ll drop that stuff even if I keep the rest of my txting the same.
I’ve also noticed that those girls tend to be the less feminine girls. Still hot, but more “independent feminist” type personalities. I prefer bubbly cute girly-girls, personally. But ya, I calibrate my txting style a bit to stuff like that.
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“I’ve also noticed that those girls tend to be the less feminine girls.”
Yeah, low-digit-ratio woman here.
I actually prefer verbose texting, complete with grammatically correct sentences and punctuation. I just hate when they get cutesy with me.
There was one guy that I would always push into actually calling me (wouldn’t answer his texts with anything other than, “Sorry, driving now. Can you call?”), because there was this tremendously jarring disconnect between his meatspace persona and the personality that came through when he e-mailed, IMd or texted. In person, he was this big, hulking, virile horndog of a guy…in text form, he was all “Howya doin’ cutie hehe :-)” Bleh.
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I have zero shame in admitting I’ve sent gay ass smiley kissy face emojis. Calibration is key.
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It really is futile what we use, isn’t it? Somewhere down the line, you will text something that does not pass the jumbotron test. As long as you are AWARE of your useage (how you come off to her, who is chasing who for value, etc.), then there shouldn’t be a problem. And after you get the lay, your emoji useage will go down dramatically anyway, right?
YaReally uses “lol” like a scalpel, to great effect. He is the exception. In my eyes, 99.9% of guys using it come off like apologetic cunts. Unless you’re using it in an ironical sense, you look like you lack conviction in what you’re texting. “If I don’t put LOL, she may never respond to what I just said.” An emergency eject button in case you come off as terse.
I prefer “Ha”. The other person doesn’t know if you went, “HA!” out loud, if you were unimpressed, but…there is interest to find out. Just my $.02.
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This is an important point actually.
I very consciously do not use “lol” in situations where I’m aggressively pushing forward in a way that she could shoot me down, which is where other guys use the “lol” as an eject button exactly how and why you described.
So it would be something like:
Me: “bla bla lol bla”
Her: “lolol bla bla”
Me: “You’re funny. You should come out tonight.” (no lol)
Her: “Why?”
Me: “Because I want to see you.” (no lol)
Whereas other guys might do something like:
“You’re funny. 🙂 You should come out tonight!”
“Why?”
“I dunno so we can hang out or something lol”
Like, when I’m making a Statement of Interest or giving a “command”, I do it with just a period and wait for her response. I don’t care if she doesn’t respond for a week, I stated my intentions and I’m not backing off them or cushioning them inside an “eject lol”. That’s what that shoul be called lol, an “eject lol”.
Anyway ya, this is something I consciously do. I liken it to how in a live pickup you might dick around and tease her and not be fully facing her etc, and then she says something interesting and you suddenly turn to her, stare her in the eyes with laser intense focus, step in her space, drop your voice into a serious tone, and calmly state your intentions or whatever. Like because I’m lol’ing all the time, when I DON’T it has that much more impact on what I’m saying.
Good comment/analysis.
[CH: Good points. This is the principle of “don’t half-ass it” when you need to impress a girl with authentic alphatude. That “lol” can be dangerous when used as an escape hatch of plausible deniability when strong dominance is required.]
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“[CH: Good points. This is the principle of “don’t half-ass it” when you need to impress a girl with authentic alphatude. That “lol” can be dangerous when used as an escape hatch of plausible deniability when strong dominance is required.]”
Right, and to extrapolate it into a normal live pickup: part of demonstrating high-value *IS* risking getting shot down. ie – going direct is, in itself, attractive, because you’re saying “I’m willing to risk not seeing you again, to make my intentions known” VS going indirect and trying to “avoid pain”. She might not bang you from that alone, of course…but I know when I drop a hard SOI with no lol via txt her first thought is “…isn’t he going to write a lol? No? oh wow…he’s being serious when he says he wants me, that’s fucking hot…”
You can still go indirect, but there’s a point, like me stopping using lol’s at certain times, where you have to unapologetically go direct without an escape hatch.
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omg- you are fire today! heheheheheheh 😉
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Why, thank you! I guess two nights’ worth of insomnia makes me funnier. Time to head to Starbucks!
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Oh, now that’s just cruel. My bras are way prettier than that.
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South Park LOL. When they’re really on, when it’s a good episode, it cracks me up. Practically the only TV show I can stand.
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I actually put bourbon in the tea cups. Tee hee.
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Just drop the last “e.”
[CH: heh.]
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Eh, I prefer the HAHAHA. It’s guttural and onomatopoeia; it just seems right. To each, their own though.
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A single “HA” is what I normally go for.
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[…] heartiste.wordpress.com […]
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Lol. She’ll be in to him due to law of attraction. Then get over it. Running a soft harem.
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I would have gone LZOZOZOZOZOZOZOZOZOZ.
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hahaha I’m so aloof many womenz crave my precious bodily fluids
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great movie…Kubrick was Red Pill…Eyes Wide Shut…Barry Lyndon
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So… this is what “alpha” is all about?
Meh, feh, and heh…
You fairies.
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Kosher posts are always “alpha.”
No “objectively wrong” small-dicked nahtzees ranting about the JQ here.
And oh God, can we please not call it the Synagogue? People are going to think this is a neo-Nazi website.
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You’re my new girlfriend, Puke is Beauty. Am I Alpha enough for you?
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[…] Alpha Assessment: Terseness And Tingles Edition […]
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‘Text game’? Really?
Maybe this works in High School, but beyond that, if you go texting, you’re playing HER game by HER rules on HER home field – with a ref who hates your guts and a crowd that wants you dead.
Men don’t text.
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i thought this went without saying, you’ll still text occassionally (also you really don’t have time to go meet her), why not know how to do it properly
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“I would like to broadcast to you all to let you know how I would like you to see me that I am NOT the type of male who has to resort to the silly tricks that you guys do to get the highest quality trim. I am an alpha! HA! You have all given it away that you are BETA and you don’t realize that you just need to be yourself to get girls. If that doesn’t work, then it was not meant to be that you are to reproduce and therefore know your role and be quiet!”
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i think that lol usage depends on internet usage of the chick. using lol is a sign of social awareness this day and age and would deter only stupid finds internet stupid chick.
of course only in texting, pulling of saying “lol” takes some cred
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Social awareness? It indicates nothing that you know what it means, other than you’ve been awake the past 10+ years. And I can think of no faster way to make a woman dry than to even attempt to say “lol” out loud.
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indication that you’ve been awake fo past 10 years is still not bad in any way.
why the fuck are so many of you so close-minded? in the right context sayong lol can make her piss her pants. in the wrong context it can make you look like a standard mmorpg nolifer. as i’ve said before, it takes cred.
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off topic
stripper transformation, before & after
http://imgur.com/gallery/gXC8Flg
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You should see pornstars before and after….egad
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the take home point that most people miss, is that with more wealth enable creation and access to more beauty products ( both preventive and maintenance oriented ) which artificially makes hoes look better than what they really are without all those ” marketing and advertising ” unlike say women in Afghanistan, which is what is supposed to happen and is ultimately good in the long term.
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Game… is makeup for men.
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game is the natural state of man ( and as a characteristic is present in all normal male to a slightly varying degree ) in a more scarce resource primordial setting as seen in all animals.
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That’s what always struck me about the strippers I’ve met…up on stage, they were goddesses. But if you saw them grocery shopping with their hair in a ponytail and no makeup, they were completely unremarkable. The cashier checking them out would be better-looking (if not quite so pneumatically enhanced).
And while we’re on the subject of pneumatic enhancements, I’d like to take this time to bemoan the fact that so few plastic surgeons seem to know what the f they’re doing. I’ve seen so many scars, misplaced nipples, asymmetrical boobs, and visible, rippling implants…guess I’m just going to have to stick to padded push-ups. I’d rather take off my bra and have the guy feel a little cheated as to size than to have him run away screaming “SHE’S GOT KUATO STAPLED TO HER CHEST! AAHHH!”
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Where in the world are you hanging out at?
KUATO IS MY WINGMAN
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Everywhere. Girls–strippers and “regular girls” alike–who’ve had their boobs done love, love, love showing them off. The problem is that unless they are strippers, they can’t really bring themselves to show them off to their intended target audience (men), because it’s slutty.
So, instead, they whip them out and show other women. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve fallen into a casual conversation with some chick waiting in line for the bathroom and the next thing I know…out come the sweater kittens. “Go on, touch them! What do you think, do they feel real?”
I know that sounds like the first 10 seconds of a bad pr0n, but I swear I am not making this up.
[CH: The reason these girls love to display their mechanized wares for female consumption is because they are insecure about the uncanny valley quality of their butchered bitties, and are seeking gentle reassurance from any available female with spare faux empathy to lavish.
FACT: Most men can tell the augmented monstrosities from the natural ski slopes. The strip mine-like terrace is usually the giveaway.]
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CH, I believe you may have just validated my decision.
[CH: To get fake tits? I’n not dead set against the cosmetic improvement of unsatisfactory body parts in all cases. While small-ish natural boobs are almost always better than their enlarged fake alternatives once clothes are off and touching is operative, there are a few types of natural titties that could benefit from surgical meddling. Small, droopy, flapjack tits are the absolute worst (right down there with gargantuan pendulous old lady udders), and augmentation would be a big improvement for those unfortunate women. For such dire patients, most men would be willing to overlook the telltale signs of intervention as a small price to pay for not having to look at or feel really ugly flapjacks or bovine udders.]
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Oh, I agree. And also when she’s not just small, but actually flat…there’s actually a medical condition that causes some women’s breasts to just not develop at all.
But that’s not what I’ve got going on. I have the classic “teacups.”
[CH: When I envision teacup tits I see small but upright, with prominent pointy nipples. That’s not so bad. Fake tits are really a poor choice for women who have any notion that they’ll share a bed again with a man of discerning taste. The fakies look fine under sweaters, but once naked their flaws become apparent, not just to the eyes but to the fingertips as well. As I said, the terrace (where the outline of the bag is visible at the base of the boob) is really off-putting, and especially so when a man can feel the damn thing through the skin. Fakies that are too big feel like rocks buried in the chest. Nothing soft about them. Yeah, they’re a handful… a handful of stones! Then there is the obvious convex rounding of the top of the boobs, because the bag pushes the boob upwards as well as outwards. This upward rounding gives the appearance of a perpetual corset driving the tits together and up. The problem is that it looks freakin unnatural when the fakes continue looking that way with clothes off. They look like two balloons taped to the chest.
Fake tits are really designed to appeal to men who want trophy wives to show off at cocktail parties but don’t give a fuck about authentic bedroom intimacy. For that reason, the worst fake tits are typically found on golddiggers.]
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Huh. You’re one of the first guys I’ve ever heard say anything like this…most of them give me some variant on “fake or real, the bigger the better.”
You’ve actually made me feel better, CH. Thank you!
[CH: Male boob size preference is fairly uniform. Most men like boobs in the B to C range, a nice handful. A minority prefer dem double Ds, and a smaller minority prefer teensy As. Few men like boobs smaller than A (flat chest) or larger than DD (grotesque). That said, the ideal boob is a natural B or C cup, followed by a natural A or D cup. A few tit jobs are good enough that they can compete with natural Bs and Cs, but most are not. A tit job, even one with telltale signs, makes some sense if the woman has vanishingly small boobs or needs huge knockers reduced.
More important that boob size is boob shape. A firm A beats a saggy C. A slightly droopy D beats a flapjack B, etc. The ideal shape is firm, pert, small areola, pointy nipped, and with a slight “ski jump” aspect to the upper part of the boob.]
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Stop. Mutilating. Yourself.
Sheesh. Teacups are cute.
Instead of pawing insecure fellow-cutters in line waiting for coffee, tune your gauge to male opinion. CH is right, only flappy deflated udders should be considered for the knife — this is correction, not augmentation. But even then it would have to be an extraordinary case to merit the general anesthesia and nip/tuck quack-jobs.
Think of how Gwen Stefani rocked her little A’s with no self-consciousness in the late 90s. The sexiest thing about you is your self-possessed poise, coupled with an utter lack of pretense or affect. Don’t toss that gift into the slop sink of a professional tit slasher.
Where is your dad?
Matt
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Back to my original question.
Who in the world are you hanging out with?
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The elder Rappaccini? He’s fine. Still happily married to my mother. I talk to them at least once a week and visit them frequently.
I’m afraid your theory that I had some horrible childhood experience that drove me to sterilize myself is incorrect. I grew up in a stable, Protestant, middle-class family with parents who set clear boundaries and enforced them with loving discipline. No family friends named Chester or Late-Night Sneaky Uncles.
To the extent that my family has anything to do with what you perceive as my “self-mutilation,” I suspect it was to pass on a gene that led to an utter lack of interest in parenting. I have an uncle, a cousin, a great-aunt, and a great-grand-uncle who all chose not to have children.
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Glad to hear it, and I’ll take your mere testimony as falsification of a theory. But that’s just what it is, a working theory in the absence of a better explanation. Mine happened to be the most frequently occurring and most comprehensive explanation for why freaks of nature get their freak on.
An inherited trait of childlessness is an oxymoron. Anyway, let’s not go down the blind ally of Darwinist fabrication. You and CH can diddle each other in that exercise of circular-reasoning.
The point is, somewhere and somehow your wires got crossed, and high in-utero testosterone exposure isn’t an explanation so much as a tautological punt. Your second explanation, relativizing the very idea of disorder, is similarly evasive (not to mention fecklessly postmodern), no matter how many scare-quotes you affix to what I or a simple comparison with the norm “perceive.”
You don’t seem interested in getting to the bottom of this and therefore neither am I. Take a thousand women, get a thousand uniquely crafted disorders. You get spontaneous neuroses out of left field, manifesting themselves as a woman’s sell-buy date begins to focus the female mind on the meaning of life for the first time. I do feel your anxiety, though.
Best wishes,
Matt
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“An inherited trait of childlessness is an oxymoron.”
Not if the trait’s recessive. It would, however, be mildly ironic. (Unlike rain on your wedding day, which is simply a bummer.) Still, the idea that I may have inherited it is merely a theory of mine…albeit one that has considerably more anecdotal evidence to back it up than yours did.
“You get spontaneous neuroses out of left field, manifesting themselves as a woman’s sell-buy date begins to focus the female mind on the meaning of life for the first time. I do feel your anxiety, though.”
I’m not going to discourage you from continuing to take shots in the dark, because one of these days you may actually hit something. Still, this is also a miss. I’ve checked my sell-by date and, to be safe, have also given myself a furtive sniff and am pleased to reassure you that everything here remains thoroughly edible. I recommend you start with my firm, heart-shaped ass.
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natural always better. trash get plastic. only trash men prefer that.
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One question… Is there such a thing as a nipple being too high?,
I’ve been told mine are perfect, but I saw my roommate’s (accidentally) and her nipples were so high making her breasts appear bigger and perkier. Since then I’ve been self conscious. Thoughts?
I feel mine are in a normal place compared to many nice breasts I’ve seen on game of thrones
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http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21cgvwg&s=6
This version lacks the funnest reply in the thread.
“We shall call it rover. Rover to omega is like omega is to God-emperor of mankind”
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I like this Kevin MacDonald chap.
On jewish hypocrisy and double standards .
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Ooooh Mr. Pee, a new race baiter!!! I get so hot over you big, bad racists. Can I be your friend?
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Stand down, sonny, that’s just a federale trolling for his next arrest.
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It’s not race baiting or hatred. It’s an analysis of behaviour and raison d’être.
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OT.
Heartiste Revolution.
Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Thanks for noticing—we’re going to fix it up and have things back to normal soon.
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I just keep beating my self up for all the bangs I missed due to Poor game and some girls were freaking hot. Uhhh fuck its fucking up my state. Any advise on cultivating the right mind frame.
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game is power, and like any form of power it is up to its beholder how he/she chooses to wield it. i for one try to use it for a good of sorts. there have been many girls in my past rotations, that immediately go on to find their sought after hubby after we split (always after the commitment talk-i don’t want marriage and make it clear).
they always wind up with decent men who don’t know game, but are respectable. the reason i believe is because while they are with me, i slowly deconstruct and remove all the feminist, grrrl power crap they’ve had their minds crammed with from birth. i try to reunite them with their natural femininity they never knew through the alpha ways, and even the most ball busting bitches can become very sweet and gentle with the right man.
once I’ve demolished their you go grrrl personalities, they are then primed to receive real love by not trying to control every little thing and letting it in. we then inevitably split after the talk, but she is now a changed woman who can actually accept and maintain real love.
she’ll then give the guy a chance whom she never would have before, and viola, she finds her love. some have recognized what i did for them and have expressed sincere gratitude to me for opening their eyes. unfortunately some do offer to reignite the old flame between us while they’re with new guy, but i always tell them no. the guy is usually a good guy, so I’m not going to do that to a fellow brother who is respectable. her new found awareness doesn’t always stick, but i can’t control what happens after we split.
i like to think I’m doing some good, but I’m only one man. a man trying to heal the world one girl at a time. a man known as The Wifey Fluffer™. you’re welcome gents.
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What is alpha with using a vibrator?
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Using it as an insurance policy?
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I just figured it out. The alpha Tucker Maxed her, then fell asleep while she was trying to finish off.
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Ahhh is THAT what Tucker is up to these days.
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Chicks dig (violent, remorseless) Jerks http://thestacks.deadspin.com/rae-carruth-the-women-he-loved-and-the-one-he-paid-a-747347792. In Legion. 2001 Vintage.
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every once in a while i actually have an inspired response, i just got this in email (granted she’s not super high value but i dig her body):
‘i’ve loved you since that day after we finally met when i told you i was afraid you’d found me less captivating in person than in text. you said, “the opposite, you’re a terrible writer”‘
i generally only have sex with her in a car and the worse i treat her the more enraptured she is. helps keep my perspective when i meet a girl i could fall for.
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Somewhat O/T, but file under the annals of the Dark Triad
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/amanda-platell-some-men-adore-humiliating-successful-women/story-fnet09p2-1226677617612
How could such a strong, beautiful, hugely successful woman let herself be treated that way?
When I read the Mail on Sunday headline “Saatchi: I’m Divorcing You, Nigella”, I was hit by a sense of sick dread.
Why? Because I, too, have suffered the grave misfortune of falling in love with more than one such control freak in my lifetime.
I couldn’t be fucked reading the rest of her screed, but that alone was entertaining enough.
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This seems convenient http://www.spring.org.uk/2013/07/women-3-times-more-likely-to-wear-red-or-pink-when-fertile.php
Women who are ovulating are more likely to wear red/pink
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