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An Artful Age Neg

October 11, 2013 by CH

For those of you men routinely scouring the bowels and spit-shining the lacquered coifs of both ends of the dating market, the issue of age discrepancy, in either direction, is a fairly common one and, if not properly neutralized, a potential cockblock on the road to vaghalla. The good news is that gliding past any age issues is easy, and is the reason why a good game strategy often employs the tactic of initiating the subject of age before the girl brings it up and locks you into her frame, (and remember that a female-defined frame is, as is usually the case in nascent seductions, antagonistic).

Personally, I like to start off a budding romance by psychologically knocking a girl back on her heels, especially if I sense that some intractable circumstance beyond my control threatens to derail my meaty Maglev. For instance, if the target of my predation is an older woman (read: north of 25) whom I suspect, by her body language and attitude, to be excessively confident in the staying power of her fading beauty, I might quip, “I’ve never met a real life MILF before”. Is this a compliment or a curse? That’s the point. She won’t know, and the not knowing is the brain lube that psyches her up to the possibility of receiving my generous endowment.

If, on the other hand, my muse is a younger woman of shy disposition signaling an organic discomfort with any coupling that may not conform to societal standards, I might loosen her up with a jaunty “You’re just a kid. Are you still on Team Edward?”

Anyhow, no matter the springboard which bounces the age discussion above the fold, if all goes as expected she will reveal her age (never accurate), and then the opportunity I need to deliver a pitch-perfect age neg presents itself.

“32, eh? Wow, that wasn’t what I expected.”

zoom zoom!

Said with pleasing sincerity, not sarcasm. You can stash the smirk for this one; you want to convey the impression that your expectations were genuinely unmet. And it works no matter what her age.

Think about what this neg does to a woman’s underdeveloped capacity for self-reflection. She’s momentarily stunned by a terrific tingle bolt of ambiguous candor. Now her brain has to process what it means, and no accessible neural algorithm is forthcoming. “Was he expecting me to be older? He must think I look young for my age. Or is he surprised that I’m younger than I look?”, deliberates the older woman. “Was he expecting me to be older because I look or act older than my age? Is he uninterested in me now? Or did he think I was younger? Is 24 old for a girl nowadays?”, deliberates the younger woman.

Whether she presses you for clarification, or attempts a hasty face-saving segue, or tries to pull a snark rabbit of faux righteous indignation out of a grrlpower hat, you win. You sit in the judge’s chair, your alpha judginess parting vulvate parapets from the bar to Timbuktu. If you must offer an explanation, season your reply to taste. But always, when possible, remain ambiguous.

“Oh, nothing, I just figured you were older/younger than you are. Based on how you sit/stand/act/laugh/dress/order a drink/behave around men like me.”

Defensive crouch achievement: unlocked.

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  1. on October 11, 2013 at 7:55 am tois95

    there. we shall use that as a template.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 8:45 am burke

      i really will try it, i blew a 24 situation by not answering too many times. i had sex with her but after the fact her friend told her i was 40 and she was taken aback. i need to make it a positive early on and her age the issue.

      timely, thanks ch

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:29 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozozozoz GBFM Text game for differnet ageesz:

      under 25: bring da moviez! but not da butt-team edward onez with da faggy makeup sparkly bunghoeleoozzo
      over 30: bring da movies! but not your box editcitionz of Sex in the cCty as i don’t wanna have to think of your arm fat hangingz off your armz before i am forced to see it turkey neckz zlzzozlzozo

      under 25: lotsas cokas 4u! (assuming u r legalz lzozozo)
      over 30: lotsas cokas 4u! (gonna take alotz! it’s like throwing a hotdog down a hallway with your strecthed-out vag zllzo)

      under 25: i don’t wanna get u pregnant (assuming it’s even possible zlzozi)
      over 30: i don’t wanna get u pregnant (assuming it’s stills possible zlzozi)

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 9:49 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        32? you’re 32?????!!??

        i’ll be right back!! gotta go get my “going down on over 30 year old chciks suit” which includesz:

        1. diving mask
        2. snorkel
        3. full body haz-mat suit (NASA approved)
        4. self-contained breathing apparatus
        5. 7 cans of industrial-strenght lysol
        6. leaf-blower to get all the dust off
        7. two-way radio
        8. emergency beacon
        9. hip-length rubber bootz for wading in the muck
        10. robotic arm to rub your cliztztzlzlzuzlzlzizzlzlzzoz

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:02 am burke

        might want to confirm the makeup of that dust before proceeding it is likely ‘organic’ if she’s 32. haven’t you listened to one coc rule re: female empowerment?

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:16 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozo

        i have had the dust analyzed anal-eyzed lzlzozl and it is butt-dust, dried up poop dust form when she took da cockaszz in da ass and den put it in her gina before cleiangiing it off in he rnouthz lzlzlzozo lzizzlzoz moutztzjzmz zlzozl

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:47 am gunslingergregi

        you sick bastard lol

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 11:03 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlozoozzozlz

        yes, to simply observe and state what womenz do with a lostas cokas makes one a dirtyz sinner

        lzozooz

        but dey are da onesz taking da cocksz in der mouthholes, buttholes, and gina hoellzozizzlzoizlzzizlzizl

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 11:53 am gunslingergregi

        yea she didn’t clean it off that’s gross man
        and you let her get away with it

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:42 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i let her get away with it only because she was your mom

        lzozozo zing! lzozlzzozizzozizlzzlozzloz

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:24 pm gunslingergregi

        appreciate the exra respect got a Madonna complex now eh

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 4:48 pm Gina Tingles

        llzlolzolzzzolzozlzozlzozlololozzzzz!!!!!!

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm Uncle Ben

        GBFM in rare form today.
        Hey don’t forget to give us the scoop on Janet Yellen.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 7:36 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        janet yeelelen gonna needsz a strap onz to keep on ebenrnifkey da counrtry zlzzozlzozo

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 3:10 am MDE

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 7:01 pm VRW

        MDE is funny as hell. Brass balls that man has. -VRW

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:41 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      both republicansz and deomcocractsz are gonna buttcokcksz da common man via de inflation tax, the federal taxes, state taxes for welfare momma (alpha fux needs their beta bucksz), and senidng men to die and get mmamed in tehir foreiegn wars on foreiegn shores zlzozlzozozlo.

      but yet they call it “Democracy” and have elections so dat da people can vote on what butt-lube they would like to get bernekified with–repubican butt lube or demoasscratic butt lube lzozlzozozo.

      –dis has been a public sevrice GBFM announcement and is approved by da GBFMZ lzozlzlzolz (just liek da gbfm approvees of your grirlfierendisn pususysysys with his ocockass losta sockaks lzolzoz)

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 3:16 pm A Random Guy

        My only quibble here: lately they haven’t been using lube on us.

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  2. on October 11, 2013 at 7:56 am redpillmtl

    It still amazes me how you can go from zero to bang with nothing but ambiguous statements. Keep the vulnerability shit and opening up for when you’re trying to wife her.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:58 am Hugh G. Rection

      Soooo… never?

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 12:31 pm corvinus

      It still amazes me how you can go from zero to bang with nothing but ambiguous statements.

      Modernism and postmodernism are nothing but ambiguous statements, and AFAIC are pure evil. But we know that women are drawn to evil.

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  3. on October 11, 2013 at 8:02 am earl

    The only imagination women have…is when a man gets their hamster rolling.

    And that my friends is why negs, speaking ambigiously, or being mysterious works.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:25 am Tilikum

      ok, that was a smart comment.

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  4. on October 11, 2013 at 8:08 am Norpheus

    I think you can extract the “” Wow, that wasn’t what I expected.” part from that and make it any kind of neg, or really just the verb >>expect<<

    "You're a lawyer!? Wow! That's not what I expected!"
    "You're actually brunette? Wow, that wasn’t what I expected."
    "You have a dog huh? Oh, I didn't expect that!"
    "You've been living in Gambia for 10 years? Well, this was unexpected.."

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  5. on October 11, 2013 at 8:12 am gunslingergregi

    For those of you men routinely scouring the bowels and spit-shining the lacquered coifs of both ends of the dating market, the issue of age discrepancy, in either direction, is a fairly common one and, if not properly neutralized, a potential cockblock on the road to vaghalla.””””””

    dam hahahahahaa

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  6. on October 11, 2013 at 8:14 am gunslingergregi

    I think the ring on my finger causes some potential cockblocks

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:59 am Hugh G. Rection

      I hear different.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:45 am gunslingergregi

        yea it works good on some not good on some

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:45 am gunslingergregi

        it really makes chicks insane after a while lol

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:37 pm Jay in DC

        Indeed. And gregi is right. For the women left with a shred of moral fiber (increasingly rare) they don’t want to be chick that bangs out the married dude because they can empathize with the wife. For the majority though, it ups your SMV because at least one woman, somewhere, wants to fuck you. (Or presumably did at one time)

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:27 pm gunslingergregi

        makes em crazy though when they realize you never gonna leave your wife for em
        and they thought they were gods gift to the world

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:30 pm gunslingergregi

        here we go lol

        chick well then tell others and wife to fuck off and lets do this the right way I know you won’t

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:37 pm gunslingergregi

        any suggestions lol

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:38 pm gunslingergregi

        this is kind of when I wish I could fucking lie in a way grrrrr

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:40 pm gunslingergregi

        and I want to spend this bitches 65k dam morals a bitch
        and she just pressuring me to go solo with her I could agree and then change my mind lol
        but I can’t grrr

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:53 pm gunslingergregi

        I said
        this is the right way its not bad I want you on my side being my good girl havin my back

        oh shit ultimatum
        chick no I have to be only one just like you would be my only one
        I still aint said shit

        “equality bullshit”

        chick I know its not possible its ok
        I still ain’t said shit
        chick well you have a good night I will be thinking of you
        I still ain’t said shit

        earlier
        yea one day you will when its right for you but I could not make you love me

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:56 pm gunslingergregi

        my response
        fuck an ultimatum your my bitch and always will be no matter what

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:59 pm gunslingergregi

        lol

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:08 pm gunslingergregi

        chick im only one woman and one man bitch
        me no it don’t got to be like that throw out the media bullshit
        chick that’s the only way
        me but yea don’t let some jealousy fuck us up get some sleep babe dream of me
        chick not jealousy diseases get spread like that you dream of me
        me care about you all that matters
        chick really
        me yea

        now that’s true yay it does set you free
        he he he

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:40 pm gunslingergregi

        oh yea it all started with her saying she saw some dude she was in love with back in day and he wanted her to get back with him
        didn’t know what to do was confused bla bla bla
        I told her go ahead and get with dude
        turned that shit all the way around he he he
        so im like yea really when I get home you can listen in on this bitch sucking my dick
        hahahhahahahahha

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:43 pm gunslingergregi

        she said she didn’t want to be sloppy seconds
        I told her that made me hot when she said that
        she told me she was hot too

        hahhaahahah

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:56 pm gunslingergregi

        im high man feel like I handled that like a champ
        im just laughin this shit funny sometimes

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 9:13 pm Jay in DC

        Yo brosef… I use to also have a BAD drug habit w/ stimulants which I think you still do based on your insane fucking rambling. It is all good… never too late to clean your shit up. Handle your bitch (wife), handle your whores (chicks), handle YOURSELF (habit or crazy, whichever), and become the better man.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 9:52 pm Anonymous

        No kidding. Between him and gbfm, ugh…

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 3:51 am gunslingergregi

        wife just good woman bitch above reg chick lookin for marriage/monogomy
        ain’t on stimulants unless its caffeine
        just havin fun

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 4:39 am gunslingergregi

        but yea it is crazy in my area dude for real
        no drugs though for me yet

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  7. on October 11, 2013 at 8:14 am immoralgables

    I see younger guys asking “But what do I do if she disqualifies me or tries to hint that I’m too young for her.”

    It happens, especially when you’re first starting out and you’re a little nervous about the whole situation. The issue is that you’re taking the woman’s query that seriously in the first place. The woman wants to know that you’re cool with the age thing and it won’t become a spectacle, learn to assuage whatever inclination of doubt she has.

    Seriously, too many people think the woman is being legit serious if she is trying to disqualify you for the age gap; she is looking for you to mollify that concern and plow past it.

    So what does one do? You can come off with an over-the-top neg or agree and amplify your way into dancing monkey territory (“Yeah right, I was hoping for somebody in their late 50’s, you’re way too young”).
    Either tactic works no doubt.

    More potent is to reduce the “gamey” aspect of it all, like this:

    “I’ve dated older women before, I’m not intimidated by it.”
    **Reduce the smirk, say it slow and hold eye contact**

    It shows pre-selection and confidence. Give it a try.

    And for the love of God, if the age gap is significant, don’t bring up age. If she does, acknowledge and change the subject. No need to point the flashlight at the elephant in the room.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 8:17 am gunslingergregi

      so ur hitting the old folks homes?

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:00 am Hugh G. Rection

        Ever since he started, Medicare had to pay thrice as many hip replacements.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:30 am Tilikum

        i know huh. give a guy the eqivalant of a $10K sniper rifle and a cool $million in training and he uses it to chases the old wildabeast and a sickly rhino. its ponderous.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:52 am Lou

      The line you suggest is qualifying yourself to her. This is supplicating. Agree and amplify works better in this situation.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:03 pm immoralgables

        How many times have you tried either line? What were your results?

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  8. on October 11, 2013 at 8:22 am Uncle Elmer

    re : white chicks in afro-buns, negs

    “What a stupid-looking hair-do. But it looks good on you though.”

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 8:33 am earl

      Don’t forget the over the top roll of the eyes.

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  9. on October 11, 2013 at 8:51 am John

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 11:06 am Tilikum

      look at the size of those upper arms on that “girl”

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 12:55 pm Uncle Ben

        She whips out a cell in the middle of her own fucking wedding? And the dumb-ass man just stands there and takes it?? And he marries that garbage scow???

        I prefer to look at the upside in life, and the upside here is….. Virtually every one of us men reading this post has more game than the average American man. To get more girly action in your life, all you gotta do is go out and throw yourself out there. Doesn’t have to be fancy. Just do it and you’ll be miles ahead of the rest.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 6:37 pm Hammer of Love

      I would have walked away as soon as that broad pulled out the cell phone. Holy mother of God, that’s disrespectful.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 10:45 pm Gina Tingles

        REVEREND: “Can anyone here give just cause as to why this couple should not be wed? Speak now or forever hold your peace.”

        GROOM: “Fucking yes I can.”

        Leaves her fat bitch @ss at the altar and turns his back on that fat worthless cunt and exits. That groom is now fucked for life.I would vote him beta of the month, but….. his face….

        Save a male and stop a wedding.

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 10:25 am AlmostAnonymous

        This.

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  10. on October 11, 2013 at 8:55 am corvinus

    When my birthday last rolled around, I would have girls try to guess my age (early 30s), and I have an advantage in that I apparently look about five years younger than I am. Funny thing is, they would then often make a production about getting “old” when their own birthdays rolled around.

    My impression is that they generally don’t care too much what a man’s age is, unless the older guy gives off a beta stink. Perhaps women instinctively understand that beta behavior is normal among young callow youths, but if a guy is older, with the benefit of more years around women, and he’s still acting like a shy, stupid, agreeable manboob, he’s probably a lost cause.

    [CH: QFT.]

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:37 am earl

      Girls can’t guess a man’s age to save their life. Most of the time it is younger than what it actually is.

      Same here…early thirties…they think I’m in my early to mid 20s.

      One of our gifts…we age slower and better…and die quicker.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 3:29 pm corvinus

        One of our gifts…we age slower and better…and die quicker.

        Da-n it feels good to be a gangsta.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:47 am retrophoebia

      If age comes up with younger girls, I channel Reagan:

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 10:27 am AlmostAnonymous

        He was a rare bird, that one.

        The world is a poorer place without him.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 2:24 pm Caramba

      Brilliant observation.

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 7:37 pm Hector_St_Clare

      I’m in your boat, Corvinus. 32, for what it’s worth, but girls at the bar usually guess about 24.

      For what it’s worth, I finally lost my virginity this summer, to a 21 year old social work major that ive been casually seeing. After years of floundering in a swamp of social anxiety and insecurity. At least part of it was due to reading CH and other Manosphere blogs that helped me feel more confident about myself. I think from here on our things are going to be better for me, and I owe at least a big of gratitude to the Chateau.

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  11. on October 11, 2013 at 9:00 am BA

    Excellent timing for the article! I just got a date with a waitress at one of the local breasteraunts. She lobbed her interest over the plate and I took the swing. She made it too easy. The early 20s and late 40s age dichotomy will arise and I’ll be prepared. With luck, it won’t arise until well after we’ve gone shooting, dancing & cooked dinner at her place.

    Thanks.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:32 am Tilikum

      waitress + single mom= gtfo

      because you ain’t eating out in that town ever again if you aren’t 100% on your game. only thing more dangerous is a bartender.

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  12. on October 11, 2013 at 9:02 am corvinus

    Any opinions on this type of neg?

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:56 am burke

      very nice, i’d say it’s about as good a recovery from ‘you look pretty’ as you can get. the ‘good night denise’ and exit take the edge off and guarantee she’ll be thinking about it all night.

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  13. on October 11, 2013 at 9:34 am Pete

    What is Team Edward?

    What can we use with foreign girls instead of Team Edward?

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 9:59 am burke

      you probably know, but it’s from twilight. don’t take it too literally, what you want is to make light of how young she is and imply she’s a silly girl still. any music or movie stuff can work for it, anything that’s come and gone and matches her rough age.

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  14. on October 11, 2013 at 9:55 am Jeff

    This post could NOT have come at a better time for me.

    Will dutifully employ this advice when I approach the tight-bodied, seasoned filly I eyed the other day.

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  15. on October 11, 2013 at 10:19 am peterike

    Help a brutha out. Advice wanted.

    As a 52 year old (look in my mid 40s) mostly beta guy hitting up late 30s broads via online dating (I have no delusions of nailing 20-somethings),

    [CH: Your first mistake.]

    is there a good opening gambit to immediately defuse the age differential?

    [You don’t need an age defusing gambit for late 30s broads.]

    Or just ignore it altogether?

    [If a late 30s broad brings up the age differential, treat it with the contempt it deserves. “Did you know 39 in woman years is like 70 in man years?”]

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:26 am corvinus

      [If a late 30s broad brings up the age differential, treat it with the contempt it deserves. “Did you know 39 in woman years is like 70 in man years?”]

      zlzozlzozlzozlzz

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:28 am earl

      50 is the new 40 for men…50 is still 60 for women.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 10:35 am Tilikum

      yikes.

      it’s like reading comprehension and discernment has dropped in the comments over the last few weeks.

      the lack of inner game is really shocking me these last few days.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 11:24 am Greatest Beta

        The inner game is THE most difficult aspect of pickup dude. Most men never get to the level of seductionist keep this in mind.

        Last night I went to a college ball game and met a bunch of people. Manosphere themes flying left and right.

        First: this guy was telling us how he proposed to his fiancé in the most elaborate manner you could think of. Was a big surprise and he had his and her family all there. He told her he was taking some finance exam that day so she had no idea the proposal was going down. When he got on the knee she asked “what happened with the test” to which he said “everyone is here watching” he told us this jokingly but inside he felt the disappointment. Hence why he brought up so much in our 15 min encounter.

        Second: this upper 30s aged couple was there. They have 3 kids SWPL and all that. Once she heard that I practiced in family law she got all excited and started asking me a bunch of questions re cash and prizes. After some time hubby told her “get it together” in a stern manner and she immediately STFU which I enjoyed very much. Nonetheless the husband looked great while she was morphing into a pile of mildew getting chunky and all that.

        So back to the point about inner game, I hope you realize that most people never reach that level of skill and power. I would posit that 95 percent of men will not reach this point in their lives. Most people meet their lovers through college, work or extended social circle. For many men that can maintain hand this works fine. But for those that are willing to challenge their own fears and egos and insecurities and work up the courage and inner game to begin converting cold approaches into love stories, we are truly in the tiny minority of men.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:25 pm immoralgables

        Regarding that guy that got married, Greatest Beta:

        Similar thing happened with a very dear friend of mine. He asked his gf’s Dad for “permission”, got down on one knee, said how lucky he was, joked that “surprised she said yes.”

        It’s hard to battle being happy yet at the same time looking at it thru the lens. You’re getting down on one knee? You think you’re actually lucky? You could have any pick of these women, she is the one that is actually lucky that you’re deciding to settle with her for the rest of your life. They’re likely to last but I didn’t like the frame he set.

        It ought to have been the other way; social conditioning be damned.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:33 pm gunslingergregi

        agreed woman should be asking men to marry em
        and promising the moon and stars

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      • on October 24, 2013 at 7:12 am KidB

        Wow, aren’t you super principled. Why stop there? See if you can get her dad to ask you if you’ll please pretty please marry his daughter. Oh, and don’t get her a ring. Bitch don’t deserve that. Just stretch out a rubber band, write “immoralgables be needed by deez bitches…yeah plural” and put it around her wrist.

        Douchebag.

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      • on October 25, 2013 at 7:41 pm immoralgables

        Wow man, ever sent our little internet-scuffle a few months back you seem to be holding a grudge lol.

        Have you been waiting that whole time

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:01 pm Tilikum

        for a while no one documented Game on blogs like these but then we grew to teach the ones below us.

        i, nor other men choose to accept the status quo.

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      • on October 24, 2013 at 7:06 am KidB

        I have no idea what the term “inner game” even means. I mean, yes, I’ve heard it used many tiimes, but I’m pretty sure it was invented by a dude trying to sell PUA products that needed a cooler sounding name for his $99.99 — three easy installments — 6 hour DVD program than “confidence”.

        Now if “inner game” actually means something discernibly different than “confidence”, then please pretty please explain. The floor is yours.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm Jay in DC

      I wish I had something more to add to this but CH just gave you all you need. “Late 30s” LLLOOOOLLL, they should be happy you are willing to bring you dick anywhere near them. Those are the very edge of the “invisibility years” for women which they will enjoy from 40 until death, period. Point blank. Qualify nothing and act like you are doing them a favor by even acknowledging their existence as a sexual creature, which you are.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm Jay in DC

        Quick addendum: If you really look “40ish” and your game is tight and you put 52 as your age on the profile you are a retard. If you go out and hold the frame and she is into you, she will care fuckall if you are 42 or 52 at the end of the day.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 12:58 pm Kate

        Please don’t lie…its so disheartening 😦 And, in all likelihood, the relationships isn’t lasting forever, so she won’t care while all is good, but she will care when its over. If she’s been lied to before and she figures it out before you tell her, it might be hard for her to trust you again. Call her a nerd or use your limerick skills 🙂 You don’t have to cheat to win!

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 1:12 pm Lara

        Probably good advice for a gay man. I don’t see why a straight man would bother lying about his age.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm Jay in DC

        Simple, you are (presumably) speaking from the position of a woman that is very Red Pill about the relative SMV of men and women from 40 onwards. This is NOT the majority by any stretch of the imagination. Feminists have been trying to inculcate, successfully, into most women that men and women should be around the same age range. So you are already working at a disadvantage due to the absurd agenda which is the norm. Hence, like the good brainless robots with a vagina they are, if you have 50 as a listed age and she is 35. Whooooosh. Onto the next profile.

        If the guy TRULY looks 42 at 52, he has now opened up an entire market in the 30s he wouldn’t have access to otherwise. He never stated his intention either. If he is looking for a fuck toy, who cares if he lied or not? If he is looking for a relationship she will either jettison him early or be so enamored with him that she won’t care though she may be a bit taken aback by it.

        All that being said, I am guessing by his original statement he has nowhere near the level of alpha it would take to be 10 years younger on a dating website. So if I were him, I’d maybe dial it down to 5. 🙂

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm Uncle Elmer

        Because women don’t lie, that’s why.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm BA

        My online dating results indicates that Jay has the right idea.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:17 pm Hugh Mann

        Benjamin Franklin, 1745 – “Advice to a Young Man on the Choice of a Mistress”

        http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/bdorsey1/41docs/51-fra.html

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm Southern Man

      “Most girls your age are a bit immature for my taste. I was hoping you were different.”

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  16. on October 11, 2013 at 10:57 am gunslingergregi

    allegedly “orchestrated the kidnapping and torture of reluctant husbands.” #waronmen ”””””

    got to get permission from husband to get divorced not bad

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 6:42 pm Hammer of Love

      You got to post the link dude.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:48 pm gunslingergregi

        ch twitter

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  17. on October 11, 2013 at 10:59 am Greatest Beta

    There’s a nektar down the street from my house. One of the girls that works there is a hard 9 is probably 5 ft 10 with electric hazel eyes. Been going there about twice a week. Walked in today with my bro was talking to another worker and she was peeping hard.

    We know the owner so we gonna go in one day and chat her up and meet them all. Game plan is to take them all out.

    Been scoping out all the little juice bars, cafes in my area and this one is by far the tightest one.

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  18. on October 11, 2013 at 11:39 am GM

    Beta of the month contender. I present you with this well-built specimen, whose size and physique belies the fact that deep down he is a nauseating omega male.

    This is him with his girlfriend, who posted the pic in response to the fat shaming week doing the round on Twitter:

    What we have to say about #FatShamingWeek http://t.co/mhHH32BXyb—
    Deemi(Dankii) (@DankiiDoll) October 11, 2013

    How you can look like that and date her is anyone’s guess.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm Greatest Beta

      its probably his friend or cousin dude. No way in hell hes banging her

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 1:32 pm GM

        I invite you to peruse the sow’s Twitter feed and pictures; it appears to be legit. Here he is in more photos, including kissing her. There are photos of the meals she is preparing him to facilitating his bodybuilding hobby.

        #FatShamingWeek Reminding fat chicks that they have no options http://t.co/WvjeminB32—
        Deemi(Dankii) (@DankiiDoll) October 11, 2013

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 3:36 pm corvinus

        Yeah, but typically men lift weights in the gym for a functional reason: to get stronger. They don’t go for that stupid faggy 6-pack-ab sculpted look unless they’re either really skinny and wiry (and this guy doesn’t qualify), or they are taking it up the rear.

        He’s either gay, or possibly a fag that also has a hetero chubby-chasing fetish.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:38 pm Uncle Elmer

        Fucking a fat chick is like fucking uphill, which would explain the abs if he has any endurance.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:55 pm Come-On Eyes

        I find your comment reeks of butthurt.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:58 pm Come-On Eyes

        Corvinus’s comment

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 9:33 pm Jay in DC

        I find your comment reeks of Love for the Cock™ FEW, very few, European men even of this guy’s age have abs like that. It requires insane effort and ridiculous diet. Does it look good? Fuck yeah… which is why you typically see this in much thinner male models. But until Cum-On My Eyes posts his pics he is just a poser and recent poster. I use to kill myself at the gym and ate like I hated myself and though my stomach was washboard flat, I never looked like that. My upper body was like dude’s but abs are generally unobtainable unless you are a masochist or just won the genetic lottery.

        As for this sad sack… I can’t refute the further twitter evidence other than saying he is .001%. So some statistical outlier rips his body and then dates Jabba the Hutt? Ok… all kinds of weird shit happens in the world. I don’t care why or how he got here.

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 8:25 am APL

        JiDC: “So some statistical outlier rips his body and then dates Jabba the Hutt?”

        an actual ‘lol’ there.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm Hammer of Love

        Maybe he’s running anti-society game. Similar to what upper class white chicks run when they date black dudes.

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 3:18 pm Crazy Heart

        He’s a serial killer.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm corvinus

      Plenty of sows have faggot best friends.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 1:09 pm Jim Noel

        I wonder if she’s CAFO or grass-fed.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:14 pm corvinus

        Definitely CAFO.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 12:53 pm Jay in DC

      A disgusting lie, like most of the things that come out of the Cathedral or any of its religious zealots. NO dude that puts that much effort into maintaining his physique (especially abs which are notoriously difficult to maintain) is going to go near that wildebeest.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 2:10 pm Scray

        It’s unfortunate but ya true.

        Like, once you start putting a lot of effort into your body…fatness repulses you (both sexes, but with women especially)

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 2:30 pm Caramba

      She must have paid him,no other explanation.
      Or he has a mental illness of some sort

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 2:32 pm Caramba

      Or he is a fag indeed.
      I mean the guy is working out pretty hard (to get those abs you must spend every day in a gym) and if he does it-he must be pursuing some aim.Nobody goes crazy in a gym for nothing.This aim is always the same-hot women.Or men.
      99% sure he is a gay BFF

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 2:48 pm happycrow

        Folks are dealing in myth. I’ve known a LOT of guys who rocked their devastated omega egos to sleep at night by racking in a lot of extra gym time instead. Strong is good, but strong doesn’t tell you squat about a dude’s character.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 3:02 pm earl

      When it comes to male looks…meh.

      She’s a reflection of the dude. I’m guessing his insides are all messed up.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm Greatest Beta

        Good insight there.

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      • on October 11, 2013 at 5:07 pm Tilikum

        she better hope he doesn’t figure out whats wrong with his bbbbbbbb—brain cause that waste of perfectly good carbs is gonna be single for a long, long time.

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  19. on October 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm Gro Haila

    maybe she’s his adopted sister.

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm Hammer of Love

      He’s kissing her on the lips bro. I dont think so.

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  20. on October 11, 2013 at 3:33 pm tj

    If she’s of college age, you could ask her opinion on Pussy v Furburgerson and the doctrine of “separate but equal” when it comes to Vagina Monologues

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/white-vaginas-banned-for-ivy-league-production-of-vagina-monologues/

    And then tell her to bend over

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    • on October 11, 2013 at 6:59 pm Hammer of Love

      As I mentioned in a previous post, I believe these kinds of events to be the initial stages of the Left turning on its self. The liberals have consistently beaten back any signs of a Conservative revolt, to the point that they no longer feel threatened by by it. The next stage will involve various liberal factions eliminating themselves , till ultimately just one remains. History is full of examples of this ultimate outcome. Think revolution era Russia or Maoist China.

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 7:30 am tj

        In the game of privileged victimization, there are no equals

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  21. on October 11, 2013 at 4:44 pm Simon Corso

    Humbly submitted for approval into the CH lexicon, I offer,
    ” You sound like my ex ”
    Primarily used in relationship game, it’s great way to reframe or blast away a shit test. Adapt/modify for context and present tense. Can be used in a facetious or jovial tone, but more effective with a look of disapproval on your face. It offers a subtle hint that if she keeps talking that way, she’ll never see you again.

    Examples :

    A few weeks in, when you’re 45 minutes late to meetup, again .
    Her : Why are you always late ?
    You : You’re starting to sound like my ex.

    2-4 months in.
    Her : You never listen to me !
    You : You sound just like my ex.

    Her: Whose bracelet is this on your coffee table ?
    You : You sound like my ex.

    6 months in.
    Her : We need to talk about our relationship.
    You : You sound just like my ex.

    And later.
    Her : The pregnancy test is positive.
    You : My ex used to say stuff like that.

    Of course you don’t say this in a mopey ” I miss my ex ” kinda way. The implication is, bitch acted up and now she’s gone.

    Be prepared for the obligatory response ” I can see why she’s your ex ” with
    ” She used to say that too ! ” and if she ever does say ” I can see why she’s your ex ” it means you’re lacking alphatude or haven’t boned her properly.

    This probably wont work for everyone but it has served me well.

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  22. on October 11, 2013 at 5:01 pm anotheronetakesthepill

    I’ve used the “oh you are X, it’s a pity I only date over X+2. Experience have shown me girls aged X are ….” and let the qualification show start

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  23. on October 11, 2013 at 6:35 pm Uncle Elmer

    Interesting use of govt anthropometric data. He needs to do an average woman from different countries :

    What Does the Average American Man Look Like Compared to Other Countries?

    http://www.mydeals.com/blog/what-does-the-average-american-man-look-like-compared-to-other-countries/post

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  24. on October 11, 2013 at 7:05 pm mm

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  25. on October 11, 2013 at 11:29 pm Mr.C

    The most subtle, effective yet hardest “neg” to deliver to a HB hottie is to Ignore Her Looks.
    Every other guy is noticing, commenting and complimenting her looks.
    Well … to stand out from the crowd, to get her off her pedestal and to have her wondering … ingore her looks.
    Talk to her like she is just a girl/woman.
    Easily said, damn hard to do because it is so damn easy to fall back on or slip into old habits and default behaviour.
    Ignore her looks.

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  26. on October 12, 2013 at 12:50 am Coyy

    Here’s my original
    I gave this when I learned the girl was a vegetarian.
    “You could use some meat on you”. Deadpan face.

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  27. on October 12, 2013 at 4:34 am TLOS

    Found another solid neg over at Jezebel, actually, under an article titled “Things to Obsess About Instead of a Thigh Gap”. One of the top rated comments reads (partially but accurately quoted):

    “…the last man I slept with [said]:
    “Your thighs touch together. It’s cute. Everyone else seems to be trying to get a gap,”

    …my logical, reasonable brain [went]:
    ‘AAAH! Must get thigh gap! He noticed that they touch. Cute? Shouldn’t I be sexy?” Calling my thighs cute, sounded patronizing. Like awww… look the tops of her thighs touch… and she isn’t even trying to do anything about it. Bless her heart!’

    WTH is wrong with me? I hate thigh gaps, but I want them.”

    One of the finest examples of a neg and subsequent hamster spinning I’ve ever seen.

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 7:11 am anon

      “One of the finest examples of a neg and subsequent hamster spinning I’ve ever seen.”

      Really? How about:

      “your stomach is soft and squishy. I like that…so many people try to have a firm stomach”

      “I like it that you’re short. Most women prefer taller men but not me! I think short is cute. Kind of like a smurf with muscles”

      “You have a strange smell. That would bother most people but I like this unique characteristic about you.”

      There are about a thousand equivalents. He was trying to write her off, not artfully neg her. She was just too stupid to realize it.

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  28. on October 12, 2013 at 5:33 am Rum

    There are not very many true alpha females. For one thing, the concept itself is at least partly flawed, in a humanoid context. However,,,
    A tall, congenitally lard resistant, naturally curvy, naturally high IQ girl-child is not an impossible outcome in nature. Her emergence may be very hard to get started, but no one is really going to try to stop it.

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 3:20 pm Crazy Heart

      Alphas are usually contextual/situational. It’s more of a game in a sense.

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  29. on October 12, 2013 at 11:51 am 2cupsofjoe

    I remember last semester there was this older lady student, 50+ and for some reason I found her hot. I saw her on a class trip where she works as a rehabilitation technician with people recovering from surgery, and the attraction was still there. Given that there is a few decades or more difference. Maybe there will be a future blogs on the art of dating women from space.

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  30. on October 12, 2013 at 1:05 pm mas00

    and in the comments section (reality from the keyboard)

    “It’s about time the gender roles are reversed. I work full time to support my children and teenaged son who doesn’t really like me (aka my husband) I do all the shopping and cleaning and house payments and the little money my husband does make with his casual job is spent on his pot habit. He refuses to do anything because he’s “no ones maid” He won’t leave because he knows how good he has it even though I yell at him almost daily. Yet he tells me how crap his life is which is why he has to smoke. I changed the lock and threw out his stuff but he just broke the window and came back in. He sleeps in the basement and I hardly ever see him. I hate him. What I would give for a man like the one in this article.”

    Keep dreaming..

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  31. on October 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm Brought to you by Irony | A Radical Centrist

    […] up, there’s Heartiste over at Chateau Heartiste who seeks to take advantage of what he calls, “A woman’s underdeveloped capacity for self-reflection.” This is in a blog post where […]

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  32. on October 12, 2013 at 8:08 pm mas00

    I’m curious why women neg men when there seems no threat to them?
    I.e. I get this all the time – women mentioning they have b/f’s and I don’t even know them.

    I was at crate n barrel today and the women asked if I need help. I said sure looking for blah blah. We went to the computer. She asked what was it for, I told her not the intended use I’m a artist making something from it.

    I specifically said ” I’m a mad scientist” with a smirk
    Her – “My boy friend is a scientist”

    But I really couldn’t figure out why she mentioned her b/f. I wasn’t hitting on her
    in my book she was HB4 if that.

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    • on October 13, 2013 at 8:48 am thwack

      I specifically said ” I’m a mad scientist” with a smirk
      Her – “My boy friend is a scientist”
      ———————————————————————

      I know I could be incorrect, but my theory is that its a weird kind of competition (one up manship) that some females use to compensate for the interaction that would occur if you found her attractive.

      You could have replied: “what has your boyfriend invented?”

      She would have replied (continuing the competition theme) with, “what have you invented?”

      Thats when you say, ” A NEW FUCK POSITION” real loud so everyone can hear it.

      “oh Im sorry? did I break your concentration?

      You were saying something about boyfriends…?

      Oh, you were finished?

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  33. on October 13, 2013 at 9:50 am Reservoir Tip

    “not half bad”

    Use this in text game after I get a girl to and me a pic of herself. Works like a freaking charm. “wait is he calling me pretty or ugly?”

    I imagine it could work well in person too, so long as the delivery is good.

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  34. on October 14, 2013 at 1:01 am An Artful Age Neg | Truth and contradictions | ...

    […] For those of you men routinely scouring the bowels and spit-shining the lacquered coifs of both ends of the dating market, the issue of age discrepancy, in either direction, is a fairly common one and, if not properly neutralized, a potential…  […]

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  35. on October 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm Lightning Round 2013/10/16 | Free Northerner

    […] The age neg. […]

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  36. on October 16, 2013 at 6:57 am erik

    gave a 26/27 y old a masterfully delivered age neg
    she is a 7, im her 2nd or 3rd lay ever, she is really shy
    she smiled, laughed n thought it was funny
    then she looked puzzled n teared up after having processed it for a min or so
    did i go overboard or how should i react if the girl gets sad by a neg ?

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    • on October 16, 2013 at 8:46 pm Uncle Ben

      what did you say?

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