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“The want of men was their ruin”

January 9, 2014 by CH

Aristotle expounded on the fall of Sparta at the hands of their women. It’s brisk reading and, to CH readers, offers familiar theories about the sexes. The ancients knew more about the nature of women than do our modern, plugged in Wiki warriors with the world’s PC knowledge at their fingertips.

Again, the license of the Lacedaemonian women defeats the intention of the Spartan constitution, and is adverse to the happiness of the state. For, a husband and wife being each a part of every family, the state may be considered as about equally divided into men and women; and, therefore, in those states in which the condition of the women is bad, half the city may be regarded as having no laws. And this is what has actually happened at Sparta; the legislator wanted to make the whole state hardy and temperate, and he has carried out his intention in the case of the men, but he has neglected the women, who live in every sort of intemperance and luxury. The consequence is that in such a state wealth is too highly valued, especially if the citizen fall under the dominion of their wives, after the manner of most warlike races, except the Celts and a few others who openly approve of male loves. The old mythologer would seem to have been right in uniting Ares and Aphrodite, for all warlike races are prone to the love either of men or of women. This was exemplified among the Spartans in the days of their greatness; many things were managed by their women. But what difference does it make whether women rule, or the rulers are ruled by women? The result is the same. Even in regard to courage, which is of no use in daily life, and is needed only in war, the influence of the Lacedaemonian women has been most mischievous. The evil showed itself in the Theban invasion, when, unlike the women other cities, they were utterly useless and caused more confusion than the enemy. This license of the Lacedaemonian women existed from the earliest times, and was only what might be expected. For, during the wars of the Lacedaemonians, first against the Argives, and afterwards against the Arcadians and Messenians, the men were long away from home, and, on the return of peace, they gave themselves into the legislator’s hand, already prepared by the discipline of a soldier’s life (in which there are many elements of virtue), to receive his enactments. But, when Lycurgus, as tradition says, wanted to bring the women under his laws, they resisted, and he gave up the attempt. These then are the causes of what then happened, and this defect in the constitution is clearly to be attributed to them. We are not, however, considering what is or is not to be excused, but what is right or wrong, and the disorder of the women, as I have already said, not only gives an air of indecorum to the constitution considered in itself, but tends in a measure to foster avarice.

The mention of avarice naturally suggests a criticism on the inequality of property. While some of the Spartan citizen have quite small properties, others have very large ones; hence the land has passed into the hands of a few. And this is due also to faulty laws; for, although the legislator rightly holds up to shame the sale or purchase of an inheritance, he allows anybody who likes to give or bequeath it. Yet both practices lead to the same result. And nearly two-fifths of the whole country are held by women; this is owing to the number of heiresses and to the large dowries which are customary. It would surely have been better to have given no dowries at all, or, if any, but small or moderate ones. As the law now stands, a man may bestow his heiress on any one whom he pleases, and, if he die intestate, the privilege of giving her away descends to his heir. Hence, although the country is able to maintain 1500 cavalry and 30,000 hoplites, the whole number of Spartan citizens fell below 1000. The result proves the faulty nature of their laws respecting property; for the city sank under a single defeat; the want of men was their ruin.

Translated into New Shivvian:

“Hordes of pampered, ballcutting, materialistic, meddling, careerist, status whoring, slutty Spartan women riding the cock carousel and riding their hapless hounded hubbies, became self-sufficient property owners and heiresses of a few very wealthy aggrandizing men, thereby robbing Sparta’s beta males of the opportunity to establish affordable families of their own, leaving the city down the road with too few men to defend itself against invaders who themselves didn’t give a shit what proto-feminist Spartan women thought.”

CH is fond of recapitulating the axiom that women are perishable and men are expendable, and this is true in the whole and assessed over discrete blocks of time. But perturbations in the male population caused by long term fluxes in the expendability side of the equation will lead, as observed and noted by Aristotle, (a thinker so great you could jam the writings and wailings of all of history’s leading feminists and mangina suck-ups into a single fold of his cerebellum and it would scarcely amount to more than a fleeting musing in his daily mental output), to the ruin of a nation.

Biologically, men are indeed the expendable sex. A population group (i.e., a nation in the old timey sense of the word) can withstand short term shocks to its total number of men; it doesn’t take but one man to munch a few celery stalks and pop a few zinc tablets and carry on in his duty to impregnate an army of patriotic women and repopulate the countryside.

But given enough male expendability over time, and the first order axiom of fundamental sex difference starts to break down. For although a single man can, conceivably, star in a version of Boogie Years and spread his seed to the four corners of the country to rebuild a stricken population, that single man is also critically vulnerable to overrun by hungry barbarians who get word of a land where they can dine on honeydew and drink the milk of paradise for the low low price of one man’s scalp.

Feminists, equalists, open borders nutjobs, and assorted degenerate misfits ought to keep in mind that their beloved “progress” comes prepackaged with the seed of their destruction. CH (and Aristotle) will slap on the warning label; now it’s up to them to heed it.

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  1. on January 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm TJIC

    > A population group (i.e., a nation in the old timey sense of the word) can withstand short term shocks to its total number of men;

    Lately I’ve been reading some books on hunting, game management, managing a farm stockyard, etc.

    They all make this point.

    You can even slaughter 100% of the males in fall…as long as the cows and sows are already pregnant.

    (of course, the next generation born in the spring have no fathers, and so – one presumes – all get issued EBT cards)

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:12 pm Arbiter

      There are many biological truths that are told when raising animals of various kinds, such as horses, cattle, dogs, felines wild and tame, that apply to human conditions as well. But media and politicians make sure that these truths, scientifically confirmed and taken for granted by those who work with nature, are forbidden in the blind cities.

      Good story by CH, a good find. Isn’t it refreshing to see history that is not skewered by the propaganda in school textbooks? Here we have a historian and philosopher of Ancient Greece who speaks of women gaining more and more power in Sparta. This is forbidden in school textbooks, where women are supposed to be portrayed as victims in the Dark Time before WWII, until freed in the glorious leftist time after WWII, that war being the center of history as far as leftists are concerned. Nothing good must be written about the earlier era, and tons of historical material has been erased.

      Leaving Sparta for a moment, how many know that for example Norse women had the right to divorce a husband? They could do so if they had sufficient cause, for example that he had beaten her or that he had been walking with his shirt open in public, shaming the family. One of those little details that give us a more nuanced view of history, and so it never appears in leftist school textbooks.

      Study the ancient times, there is much to learn.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:38 pm Carlos Danger

        YKW has an inherent bias against agriculture and have always been heavily urbanized. It has carried itself out in our society’s current disdain for living close to the land which is created by the media and pop culture.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:44 pm Zombie Shane

        Not on the channels that we control.

        All that “Dirtiest Job” and “Dangerous Catch” and “Swamp People” and [obviously] “Duck Dynasty” is UBER-POPULAR out here in the Red States.

        SURVIVORMAN GAME FTW!!!

        God, that was the greatest show on television.

        Evah.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:49 pm Matthew King

        Add to the pantheon How It’s Made and Shark Tank.

        Hmm … all originally Canadian properties.

        The chill in the air clarifies the mind, purifies the blood.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:13 pm Jay in DC

        With great reason. Read the historical record. They do not value the toil of the earth and never have. A primarily nomadic people in antiquity who had enough basic animal husbandry skills to subsist and get by. But true back breaking, earth rending, hard work in an agrarian way? Never.

        Far easier to simply provide for your people by latching onto a more productive host nation. Think virus + host cell, writ large.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:36 am Zombie Shane

        > “Read the historical record.”

        They used to raise sheep, down south, around Bethlehem town.

        But then about 2000 years ago, King Rahm Emanuel, -er- Herod, sent his IRS Storm Troopers, -er- soldiers, down into Bethlehem, to murder all the little children.

        “Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
        In Ramah was there a voice heard,
        lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning,
        Rachel weeping for her children,
        and would not be comforted,
        because they are not.”

        Which shoulda put a crimp in the great Judean tradition of shepherding.

        Fortunately, though, one little baby escaped King Rahm Emanuel’s IRS Stormtroopers, -er- King Herod’s soldiers.

        And escaped down into the Sinai.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:07 pm Hyperborean

        Parasites cannot survive in a rural agrarian culture.

        Living in a small community holds people to a higher code of conduct because in such a community, where everyone knows each other, everyone has a reputation; it is impossible to remain anonymous. This makes rural areas more capable of regulating themselves through simple social pressure, instead of extensive laws and the giant bureaucracy that is necessary to enforce them.

        If you behave in a benevolent manner, than it is recognized by the community and rewarded; if you suck blood for a living, then it is recognized by the community and you are shunned. Hence, the reason the organic rural lifestyle, which is natural way for our people to live, is so slandered by the parasites that control our media.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:20 pm cheers

        “hyperborean” what is the “borean” that you are above? looking at your avatar, you jerk it to well developed men (no homo). Please tell me more about your proclivities. sincerely, your cousin from thrace.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:37 pm cortesar

        Let us face ourselves. We are Hyperboreans; we know very well how far off we live. ‘Neither by land nor by sea will you find the way to the Hyperboreans’—Pindar already knew this about us. Beyond the north, ice, and death—our life, our happiness. We have discovered happiness, we know the way, we have found the exit out of the labyrinth of thousands of years. Who else has found it? Modern man perhaps? ‘I have got lost; I am everything that has got lost,’ sighs modern man. This modernity was our sickness: lazy peace, cowardly compromise, the whole virtuous uncleanliness of the modern Yes and No. … Rather live in the ice than among modern virtues and other south winds! We were intrepid enough, we spared neither ourselves nor others; but for a long time we did not know where to turn with our intrepidity. We became gloomy, we were called fatalists. Our fatum—abundance, tension, the damming of strength. We thirsted for lightning and deeds and were most remote from the happiness of the weakling, ‘resignation.’ In our atmosphere was a thunderstorm; the nature we are became dark—for we saw no way. Formula for our happiness: a Yes, a No, a straight line, a goal.”

        Friedrich Nietzsche, The Anti-Christ

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:54 pm haunted trilobite

        lol, ya, gay

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:29 pm Carlos Danger

        Now why would YKW, who is keen on turning the nation queer and pedophilic as well, make fun of a man for being homosexual, assuming that is even the case and not some hidden fantasy. He would merely be fulfilling the dream of YKW to destroy his nation and culture as they are so wont to do. Do you dream of anal rape by big brutish Aryans yourself?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:44 am cortesar

        The very fact that you use “YKW” tells us that you have been profoundly raped and more than on one level
        Total confusion of your post betrays a weak mind inhibited by fear

        “If you want to know who rules over you in society, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Voltaire

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:52 am Jon

        “Now why would YKW… make fun of a man for being homosexual…”

        It depends on the audience. If it’s comprised chiefly of gays and/or metroes, then they use some other character trait or ostensible mental illness ad hominem against whomever they’re discrediting./

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 4:30 pm Greg Eliot

        The use of YKW and other variations (ooJ, Sandhedrin, etc.) was simply to get around whatever the board monitor set up as an auto-filter to send posts that used the word Jew into moderation.

        Lately it seems like the filter has been turned off, but the habits remains.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:46 am Jon

        “YKW” could merely be a way to get around having posts automatically deleted.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:43 pm Greg Eliot

        If memory serves, among the Norse, you could just pay your wife to go away if you wanted to divorce her.

        Prices varied.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 6:05 pm El Bastardo

      The agrarian societies of times past had numerous benefits the city dwelling dweebs of false-progressiville have failed to envision. In their haste to reject their manly farm-cousins as degenerate and awkward; they failed to see what they did bring to the table. The very thing they were missing with their women.

      Namely wisdom of the cycles (read lunar, planting, life in general), dynamically hard work ethic, leadership, organization, and a down-home easy going attitude in the face of hardship.

      In their zest to escape the hardships of supposed inefficiency, they became lazy and weak in most, but not all cases.

      The closest thing to a hard cow-hand they mustered were the technical and manufacturing jobs of the past. The military, and the like, were easily implacable to a man use to the rigor in the trenches of farm life. It was were I grew accustomed to long hours as I did not grow up on a farm. Being athletic, I had a drive to go with it. But many of the farm boys I knew had something at that time I didn’t. A steely confidence that possessed a unique understanding of the world that strangely made sense.

      In a society largely un-trusting of old school farmers as nothing but backward, inbred racists waiting to rape women, and marry animals; they fail to understand their rigid view of the world leaves them bereft of the very “tolerance” they claim to own. Only to find out that the supposed intellectual insult they spent so many decades crafting with loving hatred, and contempt for their country cousins did like most of life’s trials did to them. Nothing. And it pisses them off that their inability to allow themselves children, will mean that they will be replaced by their virile country cousin’s offspring overtime, and be a ginormous communist douchestain of history, largely forgotten, as the farmer’s lot takes over in their stead.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:30 pm Jay in DC

        There is a fascinating sub-argument here. Everyone is hand-wringing about why we don’t present a united front against the progressive marxist agenda. Who will lead us? None want to take the risk of being ostracized, job loss, etc. etc.

        This entire cultural “war” could be ended, literally no fucking shit, in one month if one thing happened with not a -single- shot fired. Farmers unite. You want to get out of a shooting war, but realize you cannot win at the ballot box? Hot tip— aggressively spend your time trying to unite farmers, most of whom, are quite conservative and right leaning.

        As of 2007, 90% of US farms are still family or locally managed. The Big-Agra players are there Con-Agra, Hormel, Montisanto (death be upon them), etc. but guess what? You think these fuckers actually know how to run a combine? When to plant? When to spray? In what ratio? When to harvest? Shhhheeeeeeeiiittttt negro, they are suits with money which a couple of high paid fancy “Masters in Agriculture” shills on the payroll, and an army of slimey lawyers.

        If you could bring even HALF of the current farmers to your cause you would have an extortion scheme of biblical proportion. Imagine tomorrow, HALF the food supply of the US disappears. You think it was bad when the EBT/SNAP shit went down for a few ni66as in a few cities. Brother, you ain’t seen shit.

        What is the Gub’mint gonna do? Hold the farmers at gun point? Throw them in a dark NSA dungeon? Ok— calling your bluff USSA “Go FUCK yourself”. Now, learn how to do all that we know in SHORT order. Because if you don’t guess what?

        Starving people are approximately equal to a zombie apocalypse. Government DHS Stasi, only have a limited store of food and they certainly don’t have enough of a store to control 100+ million starving people, especially in this shit economy.

        Farmers now become our new Agrarian Rulers. What will be their dictates, what will be their demands? I challenge any of you to find flaws with this vector to freedom or invalidate my arguments.

        Remember, you heard it here first. Jay in DC, savior of all mankind.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm Jay in DC

        Following up to my own post, rare but I had more shit to say. 2 million. 2 million people provide the life blood for 314 million. So let me be more conservative in my goals… Get 25% in your court most of whom, would come willingly.

        That is 500,000 people. Backed by several million. Their shit government subsidies would look like pennies if a strong coalition pumped dollars DIRECTLY into their pockets without all the vipers extracting their pound of flesh first. Evaporate 25% of the US food supply tomorrow. Now think of the political power that generates. You are now “in charge” period. Point blank.

        I’m strongly considering creating a political action committee to lobby for this. Liberal hipster cunts, career politicians, YHW lawyers (many who work for Con-Agra, Hormel, et. al), DHS, and the Marxist left are no match for such an endeavor. They would wither under devastating fire. Like a poor pathetic WW1 vet attempting to smash into an entrenched line of machine gun fire.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:50 pm Jay in DC

        If you don’t hear from me within a week or so, assume that I’ve been lullabied by NSA listeners for scaring the piss out of them with a plan so simple, it would unhinge the States for about 10 dollars per pissed off citizen which is a HELL of a lot of pissed of people. But take up the torch, at the very least…

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:44 pm FamilyMan

        With rising and falling food prices and interest rates, many independent farmers were forced into mortgaging their farms. Now they owe the banks which makes them a lot less independent.

        I wonder how many of these family farms don’t have mortgage liens against them.

        Also, even if 90% of the farms are privately owned, how is that as a %age of acreage. For example, if there are 99 tiny farms and one huge farm, 90% of farms could still be way less than half the land.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:09 am Jay in DC

        Thank you FamilyMan, glad you came back, but I never produce a sad and butthurt argument without a solution. I’ve been a leader of men, since well… forever.

        Their acreage reflects their ability to produce. I.E A VERY small population feeding all of us.

        I feel like you didn’t read what I posted. What you said is true, they are single or double mortgaging their farms and lands against Leviathan who thinks they can operate without oversight.

        Tomorrow, literally 12 hours from now. I setup a Kickstarter webpage. It is simply a way to strip midwestern and rural farmers of goverment liens first off. Second off, if you are a true libertarian and realize the ultimate value of farmers since antiquity, contribute another 20 dollar bill to my kickstarter project. How much does Jay in DC get? Z E R O. Because why? There is no monetary value you can put on my want to smash the system even though I will likely be “picked up” soon due to my close proximity.

        People with large and thick testicular mass, often are willing to go to great risk and/or die for a cause.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:58 am FamilyMan

        I wasn’t sure I understood the Kickstarter idea. I still am not. Yes if we all paid off farmers’ mortgages then those farmers could pay off their mortgages. What do we get for it?

        You say, as I understand, that we get freedom from those evil big guys. And we can trust you to manage this money because you’re really committed and very sincere.

        Money doesn’t work that way. People want to get something definite when they send money. Nothing personal, but a scammer could be taking over your totally nonsecure CH nickname and using it to run a fundraising scheme. Or, even if you think you have huge balls or whatever, if you actually got that money, well many people would succumb to temptation to find something more personally advantageous to do with it.

        Kickstarter is simple and works because people are getting something definite, usually the product or service being funded. It’s a small amount of money so people aren’t looking for elaborate legal protection. Normally, if I were going to pay off someone’s mortgage, I would demand partnership in the operation. Balls big or small, that’s business.

        Look, don’t let me stop you, go ahead and post a Kickstarter. I don’t think you’ll raise much but I wouldn’t mind being wrong. No butthurt here.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:05 am FamilyMan

        And you never addressed my point about number of farms vs. acreage. The numbers may be on your side but I haven’t seen those numbers.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:05 am thwack

        Family Man,

        I that what Jay is talking about is the “Zimbabwe effect”; power is much more than the ability to snatch a ni66as happy meal; you gotta know how to MAKE a happy meal.

        All those white farmers that got kicked off the land?

        Guess what, negros are on the phone as we speak, calling them up asking them to come back because they tired of eating SANDwiches everyday.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:23 pm Jay in DC

        FamilyMan– briefly;

        I wasn’t sure I understood the Kickstarter idea. I still am not. Yes if we all paid off farmers’ mortgages then those farmers could pay off their mortgages. What do we get for it?

        Truth. And you could get more out of 20 dollars than anything in the last few decades. The ability to smash the progressive machine into bits within one month, and the ability to return this nation to normality. If you see no “value” in this you are simply lost forever.

        Secondly, I was being partially facetious about the Kickstarter. It was merely a ‘proof of concept’ which means that if some trustworthy and enterprising organization steals my template, they could grind it all to a halt in short order and be in a very dominate frame (props Game/PUA), and high value bargaining position.

        There is simply no way that given the length of crop cycles the USSA could manage to threaten, talk, intimidate, or buy their way outta this shit. They would be at the mercy of those that sustain their livelihood. This would be a glorious thing, but I doubt it will see the light of day because people are too risk aversive even when their imminent doom is not far off.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:39 pm Jay in DC

        @FamilyMan— Forgot one thing sorry.

        RE: Big Three (particularly Monsanto) vs. farmers. Yes you are right they can no longer bring seeds to harvest since the “suicide gene” has been built in by the Servants of Satan, Monsanto.

        But let’s talk about a simple scenario. A Mexican Standoff for the Ages.

        Monsanto— You have paid off your farm debt, you have hundreds of thousands of dollars in positive equity from Kickstarter. Good for you! We have the seeds you need to plant in the next cycle. So cease and desist with these empty threats.

        Farmers United- We have the arable and toilable land and have spent generations learning our own unique plots. We do not require your seeds because we have the means to make them into food and stop our nation from starving in 4 weeks. You want our soils and plots?

        ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ– ‘Come and take them’ Again, practical, real solution, but in a nation of sissified zombies it will likely never take hold. But remember I showed you the way to Canaan, even if you never took it up.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:31 am FamilyMan

        The only way I can see this working is that a pool of money is put together and buys the farm, or a share of the farm, and that partnership may include the original owner or not. If not a current owner, the old owner is kept on by contract to operate the property.

        Ownership of the means of production. Yes it can work. It’s the ideal that makes people think that Communism can work, but which has never been tried under the name Communism. Or alternatively, it’s the old model of Federalism, which was much more bottom up, or the Articles of Confederation, yet moreso.

        Just giving the money to someone else and expecting them to be a saint just because they’re a farmer — that isn’t on. Who knows if they won’t pay off the mortgage, then sell to Monsanto which now offers 3 times the money they offered before. With land no longer mortgaged, the price of organic food would go down (no loan to pay) and therefore farmers are more likely to sell at a given offering price.

        If you don’t think farmers are economic creatures, you’ve never touched the commodity markets. I have.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:04 pm FamilyMan

        On second (third, fourth, fifth …) thought, perhaps the price of farm commodities would go up if mortgages were paid off. Farmers could optimize for their long-run maximum profit, which strategies would probably include refusal to produce at all under some conditions. Credible threats of short run “farm strikes” to create better market conditions for themselves.

        Then you would start cursing those farmers you are now worshipping, when really all along they were businessmen, no more, no less.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:27 am Grim

        No , they are all forced to essentially be franchisees of the big 3 now or they can’t get seeds or their product to market.

        The future looks grim.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:46 pm Hyperborean

        You have sound ideas.

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 10:21 am Subway Masturbator

        Fortunately most farmers are pragmatic and not bizarre anti-semite paranoid wing nuts like you.

        Gee, from now on, gutless haters ashamed of their hate: YKW means “You Krazy Wingnuts”

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  2. on January 9, 2014 at 1:35 pm Hero

    Nice Rush reference.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:27 pm Matthew King

      Geddy Lee looks and moves like a chicken. A Canadian chicken. Here I thought you were talking about Limbaugh.

      For those not in the know, the phrase they’re referencing is, “dine on honeydew and drink the milk of paradise.”

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:36 pm thwack

        Matthew King

        Geddy Lee looks and moves like a chicken.
        ———————————————————-

        Yardbirds have an extra b.

        oops.

        nevermind

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:02 pm Canadian Friend

        Matthew King,

        I’m not here to defend Rush, but take a look at the lyrics of that old Rush song.

        No one knows for sure what Rush was talking about and they refuse to tell us, but substitute Maples for women and/or colored people, and substitute Oaks for white males and you will see this song was almost premonitory.

        Rush – The Trees Lyrics

        There is unrest in the forest,
        There is trouble with the trees,
        For the maples want more sunlight
        And the oaks ignore their pleas.

        The trouble with the maples,
        (And they’re quite convinced they’re right)
        They say the oaks are just too lofty
        And they grab up all the light.
        But the oaks can’t help their feelings
        If they like the way they’re made.
        And they wonder why the maples
        Can’t be happy in their shade.

        There is trouble in the Forest,
        And the Creatures all have fled,
        As the Maples scream oppression,
        And the Oaks just shake their heads.

        So the maples formed a union
        And demanded equal rights.
        “These oaks are just too greedy;
        We will make them give us light.”
        Now there’s no more oak oppression,
        For they passed a noble law,
        And the trees are all kept equal
        By hatchet, axe, and saw.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:49 pm Matthew King

        Let it never be said that hosers don’t stick together!

        I like the poetry, the deep meaning, and the heavenly strum of an arena rock chord. I just don’t like them all mashed together. It reminds me of this:

        http://tinyurl.com/chateauhenge

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:36 am Anonymous

        fuck you’re insufferable. Neil Peart, who wrote all the lyrics was/is a huge fan of Ayn Rand.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:48 am Jon

        At the time that movie (which I must admit was hilarious at times) was made you’d see from that particular ethnic group such kitschifying piss-takes of heathens and modern Whites’ reverence to ancestors (that one probably based there on Zeppelins Immigrant Song) far more often than of Christians and Christianity.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:54 pm thwack

        Matthew King

        I just don’t like them all mashed together.
        ——————————————————————————————————-
        Matt, there is no other way for a good musician to be popular and grow at the same time.

        Look at you?

        How many guys here appreciate the knowledge it took you years to learn? You gotta slip it in on a game blog FCOL.

        Not to take away from the skillz of Neil, Geddy (what kinda name is that?) and Alex, but Rush is very much an accidental slick marketing construct.

        Think of it as “college prep rock”; Greek mythology, western civ, humanities…without the sex and drugs; all wrapped up in the latest musical technology, and generous use of unusual time signatures like 7/8. But for their complex arrangements, their songs would be weak.

        Here is one of those Rush “mash up” songs Matt is talking about

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:46 pm Jay in DC

        Not tryin’ to be a dick thwack, but are you SURE you are even a maroon? You may have the mocha skin tone but goddamn if you aren’t ivory from the medulla oblongata up…

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:35 am thwack

        Jay in DC

        Not tryin’ to be a dick thwack, but are you SURE you are even a maroon?
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        I learned about Rush from white people, but not any ol white people; it was white musicians. We both spoke the same language. Music is kinda like Latin in that it forms the basis for many other things. Some white man even said: “architecture is frozen music”.

        Know what?

        He’s right.

        This leads to my main complaint about Rap and Hip Hop. The average word count of a typical song is quite high, and black people have many of them commited to memory; ditto for the Bible and Quran.

        Yet when we take a test on the periodic table, components of a cell or all the bones in the human body…

        we don’t get a “F”

        We get a “F-“.

        WTF?

        Its bands like Rush and Led Zepellin that give many white people a foundation for doing well on their western civ test long before they actually take it.

        And they don’t even know it.

        The only nonwhite equivalent is some of the advanced “jazz/fusion” where the key and time signature changes are going to hurt you if you don’t understand the math behind them. But thats a self selected group.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:51 pm Steve

        I’ve always took that song to be about race, since the trees have biologically different phenotypes.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:55 pm Anonymous

        I am hearing a tacit rejection of egalitarianism and Marxist economics, not rathithm.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:07 am thwack

        Sounds prophetic to me; but who is the hatchet, axe and saw?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:22 am Ryan Vann

        Pretty much. Rush are known Ayn Randians.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:15 am Carlos Danger

        Sounds prophetic to me; but who is the hatchet, axe and saw?

        At the time the socialist takeover of Canada in the 70s. This album came out in 1977 or so. Pierre Trudeau too. And don’t forget his lovely wife Maggie.

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 6:21 am thwack

        Maybe the hatchet, axe and saw reference is not humanity related but a natural catastrophe such as fire, flood or desert?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:20 pm Carlos Danger

        I remember that song from my youth. I had that album too.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm Arbiter

      “Honeydew” and “drink the milk of paradise” comes from Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s poem Kubla Khan. Let’s not give midgets credit for what better men have written.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 4:58 pm Backdoor Man

        Yeah, but it’s not the first Rush reference to appear on this site. CH is a fan.

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  3. on January 9, 2014 at 1:36 pm Derzu Uzala

    CH, you are a Rush fan?

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  4. on January 9, 2014 at 1:48 pm Grim

    Thank you for posts like this. By the way, no more than 0.5% of all females over age 18 in the United States would even be able to understand what you are saying, let alone agree with it. Politics is for the men, as it was in 1912, as depicted in the movie “Titanic.” Women are for being engaged at age 22 (or 17) to a good man.

    Women are running feral. We don’t live under the US Constitution. Under the Constitution, of course, women could not vote, blacks were 3/5 of a man, and only propertied men could vote. There is a reason for this.

    There is no turning back now. The future, indeed, looks grim.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:15 pm Arbiter

      I was thinking that too: that most who read this wouldn’t even be able to understand the text.

      And of course, having their egos flattered by telling them that short Facebook and Twitter posts are all they need to write, they find it far too difficult to read something that is not presented in bullet point and adheres to prep-packaged slogans already fed to them their whole lives.

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      • on January 15, 2014 at 9:01 am Gramps

        You realize of course that the 3/5ths rule was insisted upon by the non-slave states, right? The slave states wanted blacks to count the same as a white.

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      • on January 15, 2014 at 9:56 am thwack

        Gramps

        The slave states wanted blacks to count the same as a white.
        —————————————————————————————————–

        *but only for congressional representation*

        This is a very important point for non U.S citizens.

        In the United States, the power of each state is based on its number of representitives in congress, and the number or representitives is based on the number of PERSONS in the state.

        So the question at the time was; is the negro a PERSON?

        Because you cannot be a citizen of a state if you are not FIRST a person.

        See the contradiction?

        The slave owners wanted black people counted as PERSONS when it came to the census, but as “farm equipment” when it came to everything else.

        Does this sound familiar?

        So called “illegals” are being handled the same way today.

        Last time this problem cropped up white people started killing each other.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 9:40 pm Mike

      Instead of Last of the Mohicans it’ll be Last of the Europeans. Hopefully at some point when things get bad enough and whites are an even tinier percentage of the world’s population we’ll eventually band together and have enough wealth left among us to forge a new civilization. Like an Israel for non-Jewish white people.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:10 am thwack

        What about the Mormons? isn’t that sorta, kinda what they did?

        Joseph Smith game?

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  5. on January 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm Newbie

    Aristotle is one of the greatest.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:35 pm Matthew King

      Excellent stuff. Aristotle’s Politics is on The List.

      MOAR

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm Greg Eliot

        One of the greatest… but a bugger for the bottle.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 5:01 pm The Spirit Within

      Aristotle’s Nicomachean Ethics is brilliant, as is his Poetics.

      His natural science, however, is a joke, and has been rightly forgotten.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:09 pm Matthew King

        No, it is all brilliant.

        Aristotle’s Physics was sense- and experienced-based, whereas modern science is faith-based, riddled with conjecture treated as fact and unfalsifiable creeds: what the dork in the labcoat-cum-priest says is today’s truth.

        Independent men require they be shown the truth, not told. They do not rely on diviners and scatomancers to tell them everything they see is a lie. Aristotle’s method was based on what a man can see and experience while allowing for truth beyond the immediately tangible, whereas modern scientism bases itself on the faith that spectators should believe the high priests rather than their own lying eyes, and allows no criticism of the party line.

        Meanwhile, their “proven” hypotheses are overturned regularly — particularly in the soft “sciences” — and they have no conception of the need to limit their scope. Hence we get the farce of a twerpy zoologist declaring himself Anti-Pope and announcing ex cathedra what is or is not to believed on this day. The pomposity to assume they and their just-so stories have a stranglehold on rationality, and all who disagree are superstitious. High level projection, that.

        Experimental science unmoored from theology fashions itself into a religion. Certain ultimate questions must be addressed — is the universe intelligible? why is there something rather than nothing? — lest an unexamined place-holder be used. There is a happy middle ground.

        But you will see my respect for Aristotle’s physics as apostasy and try to tell me I am anti-science, or some Devil Take The Hindmost bullshit.

        Matt

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:53 pm Anonymous

        You are correct to indict the rampant rationalism of modern “science” (Big Bang, quantum theory, AGW, Keynesian (and Austrian) economics…evolutionary psych, etc.).

        But you don’t need to invent a metaphysical dictator in a supernatural dimension in order to know “why is there something rather than nothing?”

        Your fundamental problem is the same error that philosophers have been making for centuries (most explicitly since Descartes): the attempt to derive existence *from* consciousness. Reverse the order of the relationship between existence and consciousness, and then you have to invent all kinds of rationalizations in order to go any further; hence Plato’s World of Forms becomes the Christian God, Descartes says “Consciousness, therefore existence”, Kant pulls the “noumenal world” and “Transcendental Idealism” out of his ass, etc.

        So start from the beginning. Existence exists. There is no “why”.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:57 pm Matthew King

        I’ll give you props for the sophisticated attempt at prestidigitation.

        But “There is no ‘why'” is equally dogmatic as “There is a why.”

        And if there is no why, then how exactly do you arrive at the conclusion that the universe is intelligible? And if you posit that the universe is unintelligible, then why should the sciences study it? (Or are you making a case against science?)

        Modern science achieved its fullest expression in the west because the Christian church not only posited the universe’s intelligibility, but unlike other great theologies, held creation to be something apart from God and therefore examinable without being blasphemous.

        And let’s be clear about your baby-bathwater tendency. To throw out the “metaphysical” “dictator” is to throw out metaphysics altogether — laws of metaphysics “dictate” no differently than a god would.

        Which was my point: scientism has no need to consider the paradoxes and conundrums of metaphysics, much less resolve them, and so they dismiss them as illegitimate inquiries altogether (while labeling skeptics superstitious and anti-science!).

        Meantime, they are unconscious to the working metaphysical assumptions already made on their behalf, long ago, which they treat as unassailable dogma, and without which their entire pursuit would be nonsensical.

        Matt

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:00 pm Jay in DC

        I read this with great interest and agreed, unfortunately, like Moses on the Burning Bush I have been struck dumb and in awe about how to lead my people to freedom. So all other things are background noise now—> Scroll up.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:41 pm Matthew King

        These aren’t idle thoughts. They are the foundation for effective action.

        We can kick ass and chew bubble gum at the same time.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:36 am unkempt

        there is a why to existence. god wants to know itself in all aspects. we are all a seperate piece of the same whole trying to know itself. not that that has any real bearing on what we do. theres the ‘truth’, and theres the truth, and theres the TRUTH, naw mean?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:21 am Canadian Friend

        I have always felt that if there is a why for existence, it is beyond what humans can understand.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:36 am thwack

        what color are you?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm Grim

        Any father who has witnessed his child be born knows there is a why, because at that moment one is literally physically touched by God. It’s like a momentary bolt of lightening that doesn’t hurt. It causes uncontrolled weeping unlike anything the father had previously experienced.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:49 pm Greg Eliot

        Only on the first one, though.

        The next two or three, it’s like: “Nice job, woman… you don’t have to cook tonight, I’ll go get a pizza.”

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:41 pm Patriarch

        The mistake they make, along with our dearly beloved Matt King, *is* exactly as you put it.
        The jackass before the wagon.
        Consciousness is a process. If there is consciousness, there is a mechanism for producing it.
        Existence by definition necessitates substance as opposed to nonsubstance.
        Descarte was bassackwards, a rationalization to the problem of contradiction found in the Nicene Creed, the definition of God contradicts the simple axiomatic principle that God cannot predetermine the nature of reality, as for God to exist he would be part of reality and subject to its rules.
        God cannot exist before time, exist outside of space, or violate any other logical constraint on his behavior or personhood.
        The main reason apologetics exist in the first place is to rationalize these questions away, which by the way are usually even understood by children.
        “Mommy, where did God come from?”
        “Nowhere. God has always existed.”
        “How is that possible?”
        “God is a mystery. Shut up and eat your oatmeal.”

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 9:49 pm thwack

        Patriarch

        .Existence by definition necessitates substance as opposed to nonsubstance.
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        Are you saying a substance cannot exist unless you can detect it?

        also,

        What if I can detect a substance but you can’t?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:44 pm Ben - AUS

        Hear hear. Well put.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:36 pm FamilyMan

        Presumably Aristotle’s science was a recounting of observed phenomena. To that extent it was correct –those things happened, they are illustrations of real physics.

        But how do you predict what will happen in other circumstances? Well you have to guess. You see a pattern, you think that maybe this pattern continues into other situations, you think “This would be an elegant thing for God to do”, somehow you come up with a theory. It is then never more than a theory.

        But some of our theories have been tested millions, billions and more times and work Every Single Time. Non-obvious theories. We use them to create wondrous machines.

        And when we get a theory not working, that’s even better.

        No, natural science and mathematics are mankind’s greatest achievement. Mathematics is the language of God. They are a reliable intellectual heritage that you can pass onto your kids with a completely clear conscience that you are improving them and their lives.

        They’ll have to work a bit to gain that heritage and most never get much of it. Good teaching and hard working capable students are at a premium in any culture.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:50 pm Matthew King

        The problem with modern science and scientism isn’t its deductive/predictive power. I gave that its proper praise. The problem is its inability to understand its own limits.

        This isn’t Aristotle vs. Newton vs. Einstein. This is the experiential plus the reproducible plus the theoretical. Like I said, the grand project of knowledge can use all of the above, so long as you don’t turn any one sector into a religion and pretend it is the only methodology that produces every kind of truth, like the animal doctor-priest Dawkins claims.

        This is basic epistemology. Not difficult stuff here.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:54 pm blockzocaust

        except for the part where you’ve called newton a sickly pale virgin and shat on his contribution to humanity

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:47 pm Hyperborean

        @Matthew King
        Although I find you overly patronizing at times, i enjoy your comments and hold you in high esteem.

        How do you reconcile your catholicism with Nietzsche (you quote him often)? I was raised a catholic and lived firmly in the catholic worldview until it was shattered by Nietzsche’s master/slave dialectic.

        Now I identify as a pagan, I don’t take the metaphysics of either religion seriously, I just find myself instinctively attracted to the mythology of the ancient Norse vs the Semitic mythology I was taught in sunday school, which even as a child I perceived to be strange and alien. Plus, I think Norse paganism bread harder better men, more in-tune with nature.

        Many dismiss mythology as being inconsequential, but I believe it plays an important role in forming a peoples culture and instilling a firm sense of identity in them. My greatest criticism of christianity isn’t the anti-values which modern christianity teaches (perhaps in medieval times it was much healthier), its that europeans are forming their identity on the mythology of an alien people.

        I agree with most of what you say, but it seems to me you are stuck between conflicting world-views which i have not seen you reconcile in your comments? How do you Identify politically?

        Just a sincere Inquiry.
        Hyperporean

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:01 am Jon

        @Hyperborean: You’re barking up the wrong tree. Don’t expect any more satisfactory answer (or anything other than, boiled down, because Pauline letters) than you’d get if you were questioning macroevolution to Dawkins.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:32 pm Matthew King

        I don’t “reconcile … Catholicism with Nietzsche,” I am interested in having them converse because that thesis and antithesis will create the synthesis we seek in our era to deliver us from nihilism. I quote Nietzsche because he is Our Philosopher, and it pays to go straight to the source. And it further helps that his writing is pure enough poetry to survive translation.

        I was raised a catholic and lived firmly in the catholic worldview until it was shattered by Nietzsche’s master/slave dialectic.

        You say “shattered,” I say fortified. Contrary to the leftist corruption (appropriation) of the faith, the Christian narrative is one of manumission not enslavement. “No longer do I call you slaves, for the slave does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends ….” — John 15:15

        The salvation of our age is the reconciliation of Nietzsche with Christ, so you are asking the right question! I suspect the synthesis will have something to do with the professor’s slow decent into madness as he fashioned himself into the Anti-Christ and attempted what Jesus of Nazareth accomplished without ever writing a word, by his mere witness: The Transvaluation of All Values. Only one volume of a planned four under that title was completed before he checked out of his faculties.

        What sub-Nietzscheans fail to understand — including his disappointing heirs, like Heidegger and Sartre (… and you) — is that the old master was not prescribing a new course so much as documenting how quickly man degenerates after he kills God. The postmoderns assumed it meant ultimate freedom, whereas Nietzsche was too prescient to understand it nothing less than the calamitous, tragic, and world-catastrophic development we have endured in the 114 years after his death.

        There is so much misapprehension and confusion about both Christ and Nietzsche that it is hard to have the necessary conversation. Suffice it for your purposes to hint that Christianity did not destroy paganism so much as absorb and sublimate it. “In my Father’s house are many rooms” (John 14:2), many ways to come to the father through the son. What the austere, naked-walled (almost Islamic) Protestants failed to grasp is the transformative power of Christ, rather than the replacement of all that came before. “Behold! I make all things new,” not destroy all old things but Transfigure them. “I did not come to abolish [the law and the prophets] but to fulfill them.”

        So the pagans’ dead wooden idols and busywork rituals remain in similar form to this day — like the tannenbaum becoming a Christmas tree for Saturnalia’s replacement, or Eostre eggs symbolizing The Feast of the Resurrection — but are infused with the One Universal truth, The Word Himself (John 1:1). It became impossible to bring back deliberate paganism once The Way, The Truth, and The Life was introduced to the planet.

        Matt

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 3:58 am Jon

        TL:DR version: Christianity: Truth with a large “T” because the bible tells me so (and also tells me that it applies universally to Australoids so well as Hallstatts)

        Paganism: because it comes from my ancestors.: (its apologists would never be so ridiculous as to cite circularly the Eddas to establish Tor as living forever in the ether somewhere)

        The text of the former says something about judging by fruits

        Fruits of Christianity: http://chechar.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/with-niglets.jpg

        Fruits of Paganism: http://irisharchaeology.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Viking_warriors.jpg

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 10:32 am Subway Masturbator

        Brat King: Thus spake the HVAC technician on modern science.

        Better tell all those cathedral fools doing silly fluff like gene sequencing and spraying the finest coeds while you labor with sheet metal shears and a fat wife that they’re on the wrong track altogether.

        Oh wait, you’re too old for those chicks and paranoids creep them out, in this case rightfully.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:37 pm ballsweatsoop

        Yeah, really, the only reason you want to know, for example, Aristotelian concepts of cause and effect, is if you are at all interested in the history of the concept. But, if you want to pretend like the last 2500 years of history just didn’t happen, by all means, forget it all.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:21 am Lucius Somesuch

        Hume, Kant, chaos theory and what have you notwithstanding, I don’t see how 2500 years of history have taught us there isn’t a sufficient reason for everything. Even leaving aside teleology (which I subscribe to), the wormhole for Cartesian skepticism about causality has surely, mercifully expired.

        I would hardly have hoped to arrive at this undignified display, but matt king matt king matt has a point in defending Aristotle’s Physics– and would have a much better one still come the “Metaphysics”.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:20 pm ballsweatsoop

        You left out freewill, quantum theory, and darwinism (or natural selection operating on random mutations).

        But, I’m not sure what your point is.

        Mine was is just that it is more interesting (and potentially fulfilling) to be aware of Aristotle’s ideas, than to ignore the fact that helped uh, cause our existing understandings.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:52 pm Lucius Somesuch

        I’m not sure what *your* point is. Are you some sort of Begsonian? Your comment above implies that Aristotle’s ideas (per causality anyway) are only of historical interest, which implies you think sufficient reason is some sort of discarded bunk.

        Now what is it you mean by “ignore the fact that helped uh, *cause* our existing understandings”? What “fact”?– String Theory? Feminism? If you consider multiverses our “existing understanding”, I’m a dissident.

        In any event it’s you, not matt king nor I, who implies anything less than a fervent interest in what Aristotle has to say.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:02 pm ballsweatsoop

        My sarcasm is apparently lost on you. No worries. Carry on.

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      • on January 15, 2014 at 9:05 am Gramps

        As I recall, having read parts of it, it his natural science was limited by lack of experimental verification. Mostly it was based on a few observations and plenty of speculation. We simply don’t appreciate how technology and communication have transformed how we do science.

        He thought it was obvious that the Earth circled the Sun, based on observation and “speculation”.

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  6. on January 9, 2014 at 2:00 pm Starrman

    It’s good that you bring to the table a few choice servings from GBFM, as that will be easier opening the door to the classics then GBFM’s list. I implore you to cut off the hand of GBFM and attached to yourself. I’m sure he is up to the sacrifice… Of course CH is a Rush fan, most thinking men are…

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 1:54 pm CarpeOro

      Except one of their best songs, the joke is actually on them. Free Will is a christian concept – it didn’t exist before early Christian theologians posited it. Before then, you were stuck with whatever fate. The new atheists even backed into the fact: if there is no God, you are simply a collection of chemicals to be quantified and weighed, with the results always predictable given x circumstances. You are simply a biological robot. Me, I’ll stick with Free Will and faith.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 10:02 am Patriarch

        There ya go.
        Throw out reason because “I’m important, damn it!”

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 10:18 am Greg Eliot

        The space he invades, he’ll get by on you.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 10:43 am Matthew King

        Pointing out the self-contradictory absurdity of positivism is not “throw[ing] out reason.” Though thinking so reductively would make your binary approach to the most complex of topics viable.

        I can only reiterate a request that you educate yourself about these matters, rather than smugly resting on what you think you know, because what you know is a very little. Which is the human condition, despite our exponential leaps from infancy. We have a long way to go yet; the only “reason[able]” starting point is Socrates’ All I know is I know nothing.

        Your approach is opposite, like you know something we don’t know, rather than admit the overwhelming possibility that you have something to learn from those who oppose you, especially from those who oppose you.

        As Rummy would put it, your “unknown unknowns” are off the charts.

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  7. on January 9, 2014 at 2:06 pm Grim

    “Hordes of pampered, ballcutting, materialistic, meddling, careerist, status whoring, slutty Spartan women riding the cock carousel and riding their hapless hounded hubbies, became self-sufficient property owners and heiresses of a few very wealthy aggrandizing men, thereby robbing Sparta’s beta males of the opportunity to establish affordable families of their own, leaving the city down the road with too few men to defend itself against invaders who themselves didn’t give a shit what proto-feminist Spartan women thought.”

    This is described in the Bible too. I’m sure Matt King or GBFM can give us the cite.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:23 pm Grim

      And branding instead of beauty. Uh oh. This is what we are seeing now. We men are set to be destroyed.

      The future, indeed, looks grim.

      Isaiah 3:

      Judah’s Women Denounced

      16Moreover, the LORD said, “Because the daughters of Zion are proud
      And walk with heads held high and seductive eyes,
      And go along with mincing steps
      And tinkle the bangles on their feet,

      17Therefore the Lord will afflict the scalp of the daughters of Zion with scabs,
      And the LORD will make their foreheads bare.”

      18In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, headbands, crescent ornaments, 19dangling earrings, bracelets, veils, 20headdresses, ankle chains, sashes, perfume boxes, amulets, 21finger rings, nose rings, 22festal robes, outer tunics, cloaks, money purses, 23hand mirrors, undergarments, turbans and veils.

      24Now it will come about that instead of sweet perfume there will be putrefaction;
      Instead of a belt, a rope;
      Instead of well-set hair, a plucked-out scalp;
      Instead of fine clothes, a donning of sackcloth;
      And branding instead of beauty.

      25Your men will fall by the sword
      And your mighty ones in battle.

      26And her gates will lament and mourn,
      And deserted she will sit on the ground.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:24 pm Arbiter

        Hm, a small difference: Aristotle’s text deals with the facts on the ground, not religious wishful “I bet magic is gonna do this soon!” dreaming. Don’t mix reality with fantasy. “Afflict the scalp of the daughters of Zion with scabs” – too bad it never happened, another fantasy by the bitter bibble writers that never happened. They thought they lived in “the end times” right before the longed-for doom, and still life moved on decade after decade, century after century after century. Oops.

        Don’t mix fantasy crap with real men talking. Note how Aristotle doesn’t include any sort of religious fantasies in his text, only observable fact. This is how men laid the foundation to Western civilization, both in the Mediterranean and in northern Europe, long before the internationalized Jewish religion was forced upon them by the deluded Constantine emperor. Stop trying to squeeze in your globalized Judaism to take the credit built up by real men with fact-based writings.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:31 pm Patriarch

        Gee Arbiter,
        Don’t you know Christianity has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism?
        Why, if it hadn’t happened how it did, those ignorant pale brutes of the North wouldn’t even…

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:46 pm ballsweatsoop

        Don’t Jews hate Christians because the Sermon On the Mount is an implicit attack on the 10 Commandments?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:27 am Carlos Danger

        I think the Synagogue of Satan comment about the Pharisees that made him a problem. They had to put him down then to maintain their political control.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:22 pm Matthew King

        You are both tiresome. Reduced to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit.

        Impress yourselves some more by reasserting your creed to each other. You have demonstrated an inability to operate on a higher level.

        Which is fine. But what’s with all the unsolicited interjection? Somebody makes reference to the Bible — which, in addition to being scripture is also the greatest founding text of Western Civilization, both sacred and profane — and you think it’s your job to bleat a disclaimer next every citation.

        Either you’re obsessed ignoramuses, or you’re smarter than I’m wont to give you credit for, and there is something nagging at you that perhaps you don’t have the complete intellectual picture, that your just-so understanding of the culture’s origins is incomplete or at very least not as rigorous as your minds would normally demand.

        Matt

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:55 am Canadian Friend

        ” … Reduced to sarcasm, the lowest form of wit. … ” ,

        and your calling me a hoser was not sarcasm?…

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:54 pm Matthew King

        It wasn’t sarcastic. Maybe you took it as mean spirited, but it wasn’t that either. I’m just taunting our little brothers to the north.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:07 pm Patriarch

        Anytime you’d like to step up to the podium and show how Christianity is not a religion based in Jewish mysticism, let me know.
        Until then…

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:56 pm Matthew King

        Of course it is based in Jewish mysticism.

        And Athenian philosophy. And Roman civitas. United under the Kairos.

        It was anticipated by Platonism and conquered every last white pagan via the Empire’s viae. Jerusalem confirmed its universalism and monotheism. Germans systemized it, the English liberalized it.

        Universal churches are like that — e pluribus unum.

        Your understanding of the history of thought is so blinkered that you can only see Jewish fingerprints everywhere. Like a little girl afraid of cooties. You understand the Old Testament as an all-consuming parasite rather than half of one of four cornerstones — scripture, tradition, magisterial teaching, and sanctified witness. You have no understanding of transfiguration or synthesis. As if the coming together of two bodies cannot produce life but only STIs. You are an intellectual celibate.

        Matt

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:10 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        You forgot all the Celtic pagans, Matt. Do you think your Christ was really born on the winter solstice? Do you think his martyrdom took place at the spring equinox? In a manner identical to that of Mithras?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:18 pm Sakura Haruno

        If one religión is the truth ,the closest would be Hinduism ! being reborn as a monkey is less evil than an eternal hell ! read about Hinduism here.

        http://www.hinduwebsite.com/

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:22 pm Grim

        @RD. lol. Exactly. Matt K needs a book I bought at the Roslyn chapel.

        Jesus, of course, is one of many Sun (son of) (oops )Gods with a winter solstice birthday and spring resurrection.

        Lolozzzz

        Nevertheless the bible is forth reading as a great book that sheds light on the need to control female sexuality by law abs mores.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:45 pm Matthew King

        You forgot all the Celtic pagans, Matt. Do you think your Christ was really born on the winter solstice? Do you think his martyrdom took place at the spring equinox? In a manner identical to that of Mithras?

        It’s safe to say you missed the point entirely.

        Direct me to where I said Jesus was “really born on the winter solstice,” or alternatively, explain how my belief or disbelief in that matter is relevant to the transfiguration of local customs into ones consistent with a universal truth.

        While you’ve been busy debunking the historical Jesus, correcting the microrecord (Christ was born on a Tuesday! not a Wednesday!!!), and spelunking tomb sites like mongoloid Indiana Joneses, you should have been studying the origins of Western civilization and thought. Much easier to do; less dust on your tunic; no snakes.

        And freshman trim.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:22 pm cortesar

        Your daily attempts to convert him into a Christian, to reconcile your slave, egalitarian teachings with his ubermensch, to twist and remold core of his ideas so it fits your dogma might be more offending to his ingenious nostrils
        But I very much doubt the he would pay any attention to you or your scribblings,let alone be offended
        So Jesuits are you and your disciples here,but somehow the irony has escaped you

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:43 pm Greg Eliot

        Lawdy, lawdy… when are you lightweights going to learn that your lances are but straws when you attempt to tilt against Christianity… and one of its finest defenders I have ever had the pleasure to read?

        You’re like a bunch of 10 year olds running up to the heavyweight champ and attempting to provoke him with your you-ain’t-so-tough taunts.

        I pity you fools.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:48 pm Patriarch

        You believe you’re the only one ever to crack a Bible open, Matt?
        Insult after insult Matt,
        You cannot escape the truth,
        in fact it will set you free.

        Your “god”, Matt,
        Is nothing more than hellenized mythology based on first century Nazarene apocolyptic Jewish reactionary conservatism grafted onto the state religion of a dying Rome…
        You know that the existence of an anthropomorphic disembodied omniexistent consciousness without beginning and end, sans material substance, existing outside of time and space, is semantic wordplay, akin to a square circle, a logical absurdity.
        You know it,
        Just like the Vatican knows it.

        The sooner you drop the fantasy, yes, FANTASY, of a future Christian western world, all the quicker you can move onto serious discussion. I understand the rush of pretending you’re the mad philosopher of our generation, immolating your favorite apologist in both snark and sarcasm to the cheers of those here who assume you’re the victor because “Hey, he’s Catholic, like me!”
        Yes, yes i understand the cultural underpinnings and historical fraternal blah blah blah ad nauseum…
        The difference between your kind, Matt, and the morons who ride around with bumper stickers threatening the revival of the Southern Confederacy? The fact that YOU know better…

        You’re dead weight in the coming collapse unless you’ve got something to offer yourself and the rest of us besides the fond memories of our collective past.

        Certainly Not Matt,
        Patriarch

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:23 pm Patriarch

        The foundation for Euro culture was laid genetically long before your daddy Constantine climbed in bed with circumcisers…
        Not one of your ancestors prior to that date believed that the meek would inherit the Earth or felt the need to beg on their knees for the forgiveness of imaginary transgressions.
        The intellectual, crafty, warlike nature of the Pale Man developed via natural selection in his inhospitable Peninsula many countless generations before Clergymen showed up hellbent on enslaving minds to the drudgery of the new ways of the invisible Roman empire.
        Without European genetics, Christianity means nothing.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:42 pm cortesar

        What a crude intellect is good for.– The Christian church is an encyclopaedia of prehistoric cults and conceptions of the most diverse origin, and that is why it is so capable of proselytizing: it always could, and it can still go wherever it pleases and it always found, and always finds something similar to itself to which it can adapt itself and gradually impose upon it a Christian meaning. It is not what is Christian in it, but the universal heathen character of its usages, which has favored the spread of this world-religion; its ideas, rooted in both the Jewish and the Hellenic worlds, have from the first known how to raise themselves above national and racial niceties and exclusiveness as though these were merely prejudices. One may admire this power of causing the most various elements to coalesce, but one must not forget the contemptible quality that adheres to this power: the astonishing crudeness and self-satisfiedness of the church’s intellect during the time it was in process of formation, which permitted it to accept any food and to digest opposites like pebbles.

        Nietzsche, Daybreak

        He almost predicted that one day Jesuits will try to impose the dogma of their cult on his ideas
        His entire life was a struggle of a lonely and sick man against the egalitarian plague,against its values and morals.
        Transvaluation of all values means transvaluation of all Christian values
        See in Genealogy of Morals his inquiry into the origin of words good and evil,
        what was their root and meaning before Christians transvaluated them into what they mean today

        “For this is how things are: the diminution and leveling of European man constitutes our greatest danger, for the sight of him makes us weary.—We can see nothing today that wants to grow greater, we suspect that things will continue to go down, down, to become thinner, more good-natured, more prudent, more comfortable, more mediocre, more indifferent, more Chinese, more Christian—there is no doubt that man is getting ‘better’ all the time.”

        Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 3:15 pm Matthew King

        He almost predicted that one day Jesuits will try to impose the dogma of their cult on his ideas

        If he predicted it, then it must have come to pass precisely as your god told you it would.

        This is another way of saying you are Nietzsche’s bitch. He would tell you that you offend his ingenious nostrils.

        Direct me to where the “Jesuits” are appropriating his ideas to their cult.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:53 pm Greg Eliot

        Without European genetics, Christianity means nothing.

        That’s a poor way to express a very salient fact – He recognizes His own, and they Him… even after having been figurative lost sheep, or tribes, if you will.

        Christianity came to full fruition through the Europeans… and there’s a reason those “Angles”, so named for their angelic looks and demeanor, came to be His champions.

        And as long as they remained His champions, they held sway over the earth.

        Alas, but a remnant remains in the End of Days… and numbers greatly favor those who would surround and destroy the Camp of the Saints.

        But His will… and His people… are what will prevail.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 9:32 pm Sakura Haruno

        Hinduism will win, read this. Om shanti shanti

        http://indianrealist.com/2010/01/03/why-hinduism-will-win-in-the-end/

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:33 pm cortesar

        Your champ looks pretty much groggy these days washing the feet of human waste while leftist and feminists are cheering.You little piece of nothingnes, have at list courage to defend what you believe in
        Do not hide behind “one of the greatest defender”, have a little dignity
        when sucking up and keep your pity for yourself
        Soon it will disappear from vocabulary

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 6:54 am Greg Eliot

        Who’s hiding, twerp? I’m standing shoulder-to-shoulder and joined in the fray…

        But you pseudo-red pill Cathedral shamers keep trying to fob off sticking up for a bro as sucking up and other homoerotic projections.

        If you want to talk about vocabulary, try not to be such a disingenuous dweeb by making up your own meanings of words.

        Now come get one in the yarbles,,, if’n ya got any yarbles, eunuch jelly thou!

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:36 pm Matthew King

        Obsessed ignoramus it is.

        Note how Aristotle doesn’t include any sort of religious fantasies in his text….

        If, then, God is always in that good state in which we sometimes are, this compels our wonder; and if in a better this compels it yet more. And God is in a better state. And life also belongs to God; for the actuality of thought is life, and God is that actuality; and God’s self-dependent actuality is life most good and eternal. We say therefore that God is a living being, eternal, most good, so that life and duration continuous and eternal belong to God; for this is God. — The Metaphysics, XII.vii

        Dipshit.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:06 pm CarpeOro

        He is another one that read a chapter once and decided he knew the book. He doesn’t know either apparently, or history. Historically, the Jews were run over by what ever empire was ascendent at the time. Funny enough, they had usually turned away from faith. The passage he cites describes a people that have been over run and pillaged. Happened plenty of times to them.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:58 pm bloxmosis

        you’ve got to appreciate the rhetoric where appropriate without taking it as gospel (heh)

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:04 pm Joachim Peiper

        In modern Dispensationalist interpretations, Isaiah is considered to be prognostic and hasn’t yet happened.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 4:32 pm JB

      The wise king Solomon writes in Ecclesiastes:

      I find more bitter than death the woman who is a snare, whose heart is a trap and whose hands are chains. The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare. “Look,” says the Teacher, “this is what I have discovered: Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things — while I was still searching but not finding — I found one righteous man among a thousand, but not one righteous woman among them all.”

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:40 pm Matthew King

        Hang on. Arbiter says this is magic and must be ignored, lest we insult Reason Itself. It even stinks of the foetor judaicus. If it is biblical, our combox prophet preaches, then it cannot be wise or of use to us.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:23 pm Jay in DC

        I find the Bible to be mainly shite, but… the fact that CH is moving ever so slightly towards Dalrock, I do NOT find shite. Because why? Christianity was the impetus and inception of the world bestriding Europeans from the 20th century prior. There is value in heritage, commonality, culture, even if people cannot agree on the specifics.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:53 am Jon

        Maybe in the past. Not now. Not when Bantus and Hottentots are spiritual equals and welcomed in the Church. Time to start over with a religion that is concerned with Us and Us only.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:56 pm Matthew King

        L. Jon Hubbard

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:15 pm haunted trilobite

        Nice

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:54 pm Greg Eliot

        When all men are of good will, our kingdom is expansive enough to encompass other races…

        Just so long as they don’t try and marry our sisters. 😉

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:27 pm Patriarch

        Remember,
        We are all descended from the same two people, and have all fallen short of the Glory of God. The ugly aboriginals are all merely our lost brothers and sisters in Christ.
        Racism from the standpoint of eternity is a wasted endeavor.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:06 pm thwack

        You got one Jon, its called racism.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:53 am Jon

        thwack: You got one Jon, its called racism.

        You are correct. “Racist” means “White people” (even including Tim Wise who equivocate about being racist himself, as his religion dictates). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8lBhLW4uH0
        Our sacred People is Our god.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:47 am thwack

        Jon

        thwack: You got one Jon, its called racism.

        You are correct. “Racist” means “White people”

        ***snip***

        Our sacred People is Our god.
        ————————————————————————–

        And your alienation from OTHER people is the source of your alienation from God; which ironically is white peoples source of alienation from each other.

        Get around that.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:10 pm Matthew King

        Thwack is my brother.

        The paranoid style on the right makes them enemies of truth. Genetic predestination is just as much of a faith as an any. Only they are so snake-bit by the left’s triumph that they won’t risk the merest possibility of agreement for fear they will become the enemy (or become surrounded by them), i.e., the left says race is no factor in anything, the paranoid right must therefore counter by saying it is the factor in everything.

        That is intellectual cowardice, plain and simple, leading to the dumbest possible dogmatism. A fear of flexibility, of self-examination. I will admit that such true-believing fideism can be a useful counterweight to the enemy’s mirror version. But they must know that they are not helpful at all in discerning where the truth lies with any degree of accuracy. Constant suspicion leads to superstition leads to purity tests leads to the fracturing of a potential unity.

        Is it so hard to acknowledge genetics and race is far more of an influence than the prevailing regime will allow anyone to think? But that it does not explain every controversy and conflict? It’s as if we aren’t talking to independent thinking men but rather Magic 8-Balls with the same answer on every side for every question.

        Matt

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:11 am irishsavant

        “Christianity was the impetus and inception of the world bestriding Europeans from the 20th century prior.”

        That was a very different kind of Christianity Jay. Today Christianity is part of the problem.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 4:09 am Jon

        There are several Trojan horses in the text, mostly written by Paul.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:25 pm Grim

        Saul/Paul was a world class dickhead, that’s for sure. It’s hilarious to read his part of the bible.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:04 pm cheers

        Jus wanted to say you talk like a faggot. most of the time i like to take the cock out of my mouth before commenting. fyi!

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 6:57 am Greg Eliot

        We hadn’t noticed.

        You fairy.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:47 pm little spoon

        “The man who pleases God will escape her, but the sinner she will ensnare.”

        Wishful thinking. But then belief in God is wishful thinking in the first place.

        My kind ensnares the sinner and the saint with equal effectiveness.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:01 pm Jay in DC

        Truth– and few want to hear it. All you need to do is disrobe that banging body in front of a Rabbi, Priest, Imam, Acharya, etc. and he will revert to his most base nature straight away.

        There is a minority that would not, but the vast majority would especially if it can be kept secret from their public persona. There is a reason that we don’t hear as much about Lilith as we do about Eve.

        It isn’t much different than feminism actually. We have 3000 years of mythology trying to erase 100,000 years of biology. This alone, is, I’m sorry to say, fucking absurd. Secondarily, and MUCH more laughably, we have 60 years of feminsim attempting the same. Did I mention 3000 vs 60— uhh, yeah.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:00 am thwack

        Jay in DC

        There is a minority that would not,
        ———————————————————————————————

        and it is they to whom you owe the civilization you dwell in today.

        That “bangin body” is from dust and will return to dust.

        Do the math.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:45 pm Matthew King

        Not one of your stronger commentaries, brother.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:20 pm thwack

        Why don’t you stop trying to hit me and just hit me?

        If you can?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm thwack

        oops; not for you Matt. (wordpest strikes again)

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 12:00 am Jay in DC

        “I need an old priest, and a young priest…”

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm Matthew King

        Risible. Only an abject ignoramus peering in from the outside could imagine God’s demands upon the righteous as “wishful thinking.” He demands sacrifice (which is love) with no guarantees.

        My kind ensnares the sinner and the saint with equal effectiveness.

        You have never met a saint that you could recognize as one. You are too distracted to notice them, busy patting yourself on the back for your “effectiveness” in further corrupting the corrupted.

        And as for Jay in DC mistaking the sinful who strive for holiness, like the clerical class, as saints says everything we need to know about your shared confusion.

        You “ensnare” nothing of lasting value. “Wishful thinking” indeed.

        Matt

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 3:31 pm little spoon

        “Only an abject ignoramus peering in from the outside could imagine God’s demands upon the righteous as “wishful thinking.”

        Come on. I said belief in God was wishful thinking. Did you really just twist that into me saying that I thought God’s demands on the righteous were wishful thinking? At least let me be the woman in an argument between us.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:53 pm Greg Eliot

        My kind ensnares the sinner and the saint with equal effectiveness.

        So say you.

        I’m no saint myself, but I’ve walked away from “your kind” (damaged goods, especially those of mischling variety) all my life.

        And when I didn’t walk… I ran.

        Get thee behind me, and to a nunnery… you brazen hussy.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 3:28 pm little spoon

        “mischling”

        I’m not sure why you keep calling me this.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:23 pm haunted trilobite

        You might have a bear trapper’s hat, but how highly you rate the effectiveness of the snare might be the real wishful thinking

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 11:35 am JB

        You’re missing the point. A righteous man takes his headship over his woman seriously. Therefore, he escapes a woman’s bitchiness.

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  8. on January 9, 2014 at 2:14 pm Bob Wallace

    “Biologically, men are indeed the expendable sex”

    After woman can no longer have children, are they not then useless?

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:20 pm A Random Guy

      But presumably they have ‘paid their dues’ by that point, so they are entitled to rest on their laurels. I don’t think the point was that men are useless, so much as that if 1/N of the population has to die for some reason, species survival dictates it be men, not women…

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:10 pm Gro Haila

      Nein. The job is only a third of the way done. Rearing the chilluns, and passing the traditions to the grandkids are the other 2/3rd of the job.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:13 pm corvinus

      Childfree post-menopausal women are useless dead weight on society. Worse than useless, actually, since they tend to vote libtard.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:26 pm Arbiter

        They can still work and produce more than they consume, thereby contributing to society. But society is hurt if they take part in politics, because the majority are not capable of that responsibility.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm OralCummings

        They can teach the young ones,the future of our society: “Now Tarquan,what year did Columbus discover America?” “Ah don care bout dat booshit! He be rayciss!” “Now Tarquan,please.” “Fuck dat!” “Ok Takaneesha?” ” Dat black skeeyun muvva fukka Quantavious keep tryin to feel ma pussy! Ugly dark nigga!” “Now Takaneesha,that is a hurtful word…and Quantavious,please settle down. Marcellus! Put your thing back in your pants RIGHT NOW!” “Fuck yoo bitch!” “You heah dat Miss Johnson? He say fuck yoo,you gon take dat shit! Nigga you gossa be ‘spelled an shit!” “You aint gon ‘spell me bitch! Dass rayciss! Obama be da Prasidant!” “He right bout dat!Fuck dem rayciss white muvva fuckazz!” “Now children…”

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 10:00 pm thwack

        Oral.

        Your ability to speak fluent niglish is gonna cause white people to stare at you without saying anything.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:26 pm darkreaction

      Men, like grapes, age into wine. Neither being particularly essential but both being useful and the latter even moreso (such that it’s better to have two bottles of wine than ten baskets of grapes)

      Women, like water, age and then become stagnant and toxic. The former is essential to us, but the latter is poison.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:23 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Women, like water, age and then become stagnant and toxic.”

        Unless they have skin in the game – which is to say, unless they have children and grandchildren to worry about endlessly.

        Then they become ultraconservatives in the blink of an eye.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:05 pm Random Guy

        QFT. It’s funny how the single most liberal demographic is young, single women. The moment they get married and have children, they slide over to the right…

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:17 am irishsavant

        True, but with some repulsive exceptions that we all can name.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:58 pm Steve

        I was thinking about this the other day, that the idea of “women and children first” is entirely based on the assumption of a woman bearing children. With many young women today not having kids, they are back of the bus, bottom of the barrel, lowest (wo)man on the totem pole in terms of value added to society and their place in a hypothetical survival scenario.

        The order of value (worth saving off the Titanic) in civilization is thus:

        young girls
        young boys
        child-bearing females
        young males
        middle-age males
        older males
        childless females by choice
        post-menopausal females
        older females

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:26 pm Audrey

        This is pretty silly. The value of any individual extends beyond whether or not heorshe is capable at that moment of creating a child. I addition to other things, older women can be intrumental in keeping her family strong and cohesive, and that benefits all family members.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:12 pm CarpeOro

        Not from the perspective of perpetuating the species. But your correct in one thing. “childless females by choice” belong on the bottom of the list. Older females that have been mothers have greater value by far.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 5:30 pm josephthunter

      If you’ll notice, he says that men are expendable, but women are perishable. So I think he’s already covered your point.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:11 pm Mr.C

      “Men were designed for short, nasty, brutal lives…Women are designed for long miserable ones.” ~ Dr. Estelle R. Ramey – Endocrinologist”

      from THE LUCIFER PRINCIPLE A SCIENTIFIC EXPEDITION INTO THE FORCES OF HISTORY by Howard Bloom.

      http://rpaleadership.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/howard_bloom___the_lucifer_principle.pdf

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  9. on January 9, 2014 at 2:15 pm Anonymous

    this pretty much sums it up http://humancivilizations.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/the-impact-of-constrained-female-mate-choice-on-civilizational-cycles/

    feminism will cause the downfall of western civilized society but i guess this is a natural trend, every civilization has its time and then it has to fall eventually…enjoy the pussy bounty while it lasts

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 6:59 pm Libertardian

      Yep, we’re going around the barn from stage 3 back to stage 1. Though his description of stage 1 as “a search for the right cultural, economic and political environment” is too optimistic. He later equates it to sub-Saharan Africa which I suspect will prove more accurate.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:00 pm thwack

        Libertardian

        He later equates it to sub-Saharan Africa which I suspect will prove more accurate.
        ————————————————————————————————–

        Actually, you guys need to upgrade your contempt. There is a place thats worse than sub Saharan Africa, not only are the people blacker than sin; they don’t do farming or have livestock.

        and,

        they never even invented the fish hook.

        But you better get to hatin cause theres only a couple a hundred of them left.

        *your welcome*

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:01 pm thwack

        oops, heres the link

        (don’t all hate at once)

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:31 pm Jay in DC

        Holy fucking hell! And here I thought Nigerians (AKA origin of Nigers) and Sudanese were as black as a light enveloping event horizon having ‘black hole’ they you do what?! Go and spring this gourmet shit on me. What flavor is this thwack? This is some serious gourmet shit…

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:24 am thwack

        It was an accident; I just typed “darkest people” into googoo and these guys appeared.

        Somebody need to ax em what country they come from cause they ain’t no flavor I ever heard of?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:38 pm OralCummings

        Sandra Bullock has already put in the papers to adopt one.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:22 am Martin

        They’re in the Andaman Islands:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaman_Islands

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:57 am thwack

        Martin

        They’re in the Andaman Islands:
        ————————————————————–

        That ain’t no country I ever heard of?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:48 pm Martin

        ” There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio…”

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:20 pm Greg Eliot

        Dey so black, dey’s blue!!!

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:31 pm Mr.C

      Not Feminism alone, but it is one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:38 pm Guerrero

      India stage 2 on par with China ? more like stage 1 on par with Africa.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 5:47 am Lurk n Learn

        the civilization that gave the world the Hindu numerals (adopted by the Arabs and brought to Europe as the Arabic numerals), the Vedas and was the #1 or #2 economic power in The World for 1800 of the last 2000 years ( yeah, look it up – British historian dude did the study) thus setting off an India rush by every scurvy ass European… is the same as Africa? Brilliant!

        While you are chewing on that, that poor stone age country just sent a mission to Mars at 1/10th the cost of the US mission that launched a couple weeks later and just last week joined the cryogenic engine club (only the 6th to do so). Strangely no UK, Germany, the Nordics or the parasitic Spanish on that list.

        Yeah, them code monkey must’ve copy-pasted all that snazzy amero/euro tech.. u cretins sure do crack me up. Now, back to the way more insightful discussion going on.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:05 pm Guerrero

        The truth about India here : )

        http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/india-hell-on-earth/

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:19 pm Lurk n Learn

        bwahaha… of all the noxious crap floating around, u found the blathering of a self proclaimed ‘pan-humanist universalist and a nonracist race realist’ who happens to be an ‘equity feminist’, wtf-ever that may be!

        Good one playa.. I skimmed thru the garbage in that link. Yup – textbook material from the conversion mafia. Keep reading and believing that.. 10-20 years from now u will be wondering how u had it all so wrong. 🙂

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:56 pm Greg Eliot

        And most of the movies of M. Night Shamalayan are pretty good too!

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:57 pm Greg Eliot

        oops… Shyamalan.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:41 pm haunted trilobite

        Not sure if this post will curry too much favour around here

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:11 pm thwack

        Sari to hear that.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:04 pm Jay in DC

        Jest uplifted, and appreciated by most, if not all…

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:33 pm Lurk n Learn

        curry? sari?

        such wit I tell ya.. playing to the lowest common denominator never hurt eh..

        Bit much to expect the (mostly) pussy hunting crowd out here to be aware of anything past their county line, I guess.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:05 pm thwack

        Slo your butthurt swami. Man the fuck up, take your hit and move on like the rest of us.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 1:34 pm haunted trilobite

        All right, nationalist ego-salve coming up: there’s no discounting the importance of the Injun sub-continent in history. E’e’ting is e’e’ting

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 1:42 am Lurk n Learn

        butthurt? over this? cmon peeps, there be standards… esp around this site.. considering the stuff thatz passed thru here on a daily basis, that was some lil league ball.

        Aint no nationalist bilge either… was just pointing out a few of dem FACTS to the lost missionary man. Been on the Interwebs for way too long to get into a stupid flame war over this stuff…

        Game is what am here for… the other commentary’s pretty good too.. the odd comment reeking of Ignoramus Americanus is to be expected; I mean ZeroHedge has em and that crowd is miles ahead of this bunch.

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 2:21 am anonymous

        “I mean ZeroHedge has em and that crowd is miles ahead of this bunch.”

        Definitely not…

        ZH readers are fairly ‘red pill’ when it comes to the economy and even politics to a certain extent, but they are distinctively ‘blue pill’ on topics related to gender, race, and most of the cultural stuff that gets discussed around these parts.

        Most reactionary communities tend to suffer from this problem in one way or another. ROK/RVF for example are clued in on topics related to game and women, but fall woefully short when it comes to race and just about everything else. They’re hardly better than a mainstream media rag in that regard.

        CH/Steve Sailer/Dennis Mangan/Chuck Ross come closest to touching all bases (with Matthew King bringing balance to the force, as required).

        I will say on a slightly unrelated note though that the nearly complete absence of Bitcoin/cryptocurrency discussion around these parts is alarming… and tells me that the alt-right in general hasn’t quite woken up yet to how big of a deal this is. It’s a blindspot to be sure that needs to be corrected post-haste.

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  10. on January 9, 2014 at 2:21 pm Backdoor Man

    Rush reference!

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:24 pm A Random Guy

      Hopefully you didn’t mean the band Rush 🙂

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm Blackburn

      and Rush got it from Kubla Khan, a poem by Samuel Taylor Coleridge

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm bloxmosis

      i’d like to think i’m the jason siegel to CH’s paul rudd in this bromance of minds

      [CH: totes magotes]

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:18 pm CarpeOro

        Previews mad the movie look like it was about a couple of gays. Not interested.

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  11. on January 9, 2014 at 2:25 pm Marco

    My guess is that the Spartans’ practice of tossing out weak babies, the great earthquake, the men being in barracks during the prime years for copulation, and the unprecedented attrition of the Peloponnesian War were bigger factors. You could say that the Spartans didn’t have beta males due to the weeding out effect of their eugenics and rigorous training, of course this was a double edged sword as their population of male citizens (homoioi) was never very large.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:48 pm Marco

      All that said, the Spartan polity was remarkably durable, and was still a factor long after Aristotle, leading many philosophers to praise its weird part monarchic, part oligarchic, part republican govt.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:14 pm corvinus

      One reason Sparta eventually lost to Thebes was because the number of Spartan men fell by 90% between the Persian Wars and the final Theban coup.

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  12. on January 9, 2014 at 2:42 pm Joe Blow

    This is SPARTAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm Mr.C

      At the very least …. the Spartans are remembered.
      You cannot say the same for many other cultures or civilizations whom are mere footnotes in the pages of history.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:48 pm ChefBoyardee

        yeah in the same way we remember injuns via dan snyder

        GOTSA GET THAT MATZO, GOYIM, NOW VENERATE

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  13. on January 9, 2014 at 2:50 pm chi-town

    I am quite familiar with the account and the exile and ruin of king Agis to reform it. Unfrotunately the complicity if the right in involved.

    “he mention of avarice naturally suggests a criticism on the inequality of property. While some of the Spartan citizen have quite small properties, others have very large ones; hence the land has passed into the hands of a few. ”

    The FIRE sector economy hides in the platitudes of the right in our political system. Either they purge the rentiers amoung them or its over, all over.

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  14. on January 9, 2014 at 2:53 pm Marco

    From Plutarch’s “Sayings of the Spartan Women”:
    ‘When a woman from Ionia showed vast pride in a bit of her own weaving, which was very valuable, a Spartan woman pointed to her four sons, who were most well-behaved, and said, “Such should be the employments of the good and honourable woman, and it is over these that she should be elated and boastful.”‘

    http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/Sayings_of_Spartan_Women*.html
    Look at these proto-Dworkins and Steinems!

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm Laconophile

      Yep, sounds like the ravings of “Hordes of pampered, ballcutting, materialistic, meddling, careerist, status whoring, slutty women”. Raising strong sons is not CH’s cup of tea I guess.

      [CH: Sparta timelines matter.]

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:33 pm Arbiter

        Interesting that you couldn’t say anything about Aristotle’s post, only the much shorter texts, what CH wrote in the OP and what Marco quotes here. I suppose Aristotle’s observations were too difficult for you. After all, there were lots of commas and the text is not neatly separated into paragraphs. And above all, it doesn’t follow the direction you are used to seeing. That takes too much effort. Better make a quick strawman attack instead.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:53 pm Laconophile

        Oh wow, a late stage society is acting like a late stage society. Except Sparta kept its shit together better than most declining Greek states. Spartans continued their way of life well into Roman times, hundreds of years after Athens abandoned democracy.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:38 pm Jay in DC

        And, at the end of the day, it mattered fuck all. A Warrior-Caste nation state which had martial prowess STILL talked about 2000+ years later was laid low by out of control women. The Spartans are studied in military school to this day, but what unhinged them? Neither spear nor sword, nor arrow, nor anything a man could produce. They were destroyed internally and maternally. You are defending this why? History repeated itself in Rome not more than 500 years later.

        “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 4:29 pm tom white

        /facepalm…Plutarch was born 300 years after Aristotle and after Sparta had fallen. He was looking back to the golden times of Sparta which was the period before Aristotle.

        Or to put it in an analogy even you two can understand. Aristotle is CH looking at modern spoiled american bitches. Plutarch is a historian 300 yeasrs in the future talking about how great American women were…in the 50s

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:01 pm Zombie Shane

        > “talking about how great American women were…in the 50s”

        I don’t think that most of the younger crowd has any earthly idea how great America was in the 1950s.

        The Frankfurt School won’t allow anyone to even speak of it anymore.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:26 pm Grim

        I fucking know it. But Hollywood makes movies like Revolutionary Road that make fun of the era and the idea that marriage can ever be good.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:28 pm cortesar

        Revolutionary Road explores 50s suburbia life its conformism and human desire of main protagonists to to escape its dulness, limitations and their inability to reconcile themselves with ordinary lives
        It is based on Yates book of the same title,published in 1961
        Though you may argue that such a suburbia represents the foundation of a healthy society no revolutionary has ever lived there and never will, not even on the street called Revolutionary Road.
        Suburbia is mostly populated by betas while alphas essentially are revolutionaries, the kind which breaks societies and makes pussy wet

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:19 pm FamilyMan

        Suburbia is a bunch of people raising families. Not a lot of unattached dick, or pussy, here.

        There’s a single mom living on my street, she lives in her parents’ house. She takes her daughter to the bus stop, and picks her up, and that’s all we see of her. I talked to her once. This is a pleasant place with a good school district, but she has given up looking for guys out here. She talked of moving to the city for that, but she’s still here.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:50 am Grim

        One thing I know: don’t take your wife to watch Revolutionary Road if you are going through marital counseling with blue pill jooish counselors. (That’s what my friend told me.)

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:19 pm haunted trilobite

        How beautiful was Paris before the Paris Commune?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:07 pm cheers

        what is the “frankfurt school”? Is it like “austrian school” only another part of – GLORIOUS! – germany?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:55 pm Marco

        And? Lycurgus, if he existed, formulated his laws many centuries before Aristotle’s writing. But if you want a source roughly contemporaneous with Aristotle on the role of women in Spartan society, Xenophon says “the highest function of a free woman was the bearing of children,” since crafts were generally left to slaves. Death in childbirth was the only way a Spartan woman could have her name engraved on a tombstone (for men it was death in battle).

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:40 am irishsavant

        “Raising strong sons is not CH’s cup of tea I guess.”

        All that extra manly competition….

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm darkreaction

      Note well, however, that Aristotle was contemporary to the Sparta he was writing about (late period Sparta) whereas Plutarch was born hundreds of years after the institution had collapsed and for all we know relied on legend and hearsay for his sources.

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  15. on January 9, 2014 at 2:55 pm red texas

    Adam’s mistake was not eating the apple so much as it was the fact that he followed her ill advised lead of eating the apple just to be agreeable and maintain access to the only pussy on earth.

    Another downfall in history….Samson telling Delilah the source of his power.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:35 pm Arbiter

      So instead of discussing real history you have to fall back on a fantasy written by some Jews from shepherd families in order to have reference points you can understand.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:56 pm Greg Eliot

        Lighten up, Francis.

        2 Timothy 3:16

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm Matthew King

        It’s his hobbyhorse. He thinks he has carved out a niche for himself.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:04 pm Matthew

        Sperg.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:45 pm Marc Bahn

        Alex, is that you?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:09 pm Jon

        “goat-herding Jews” sounds better. Remember next time.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:20 pm chi-town

        What better example? They invented feminism. It was a noble memoir on the epoc of their demise.

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  16. on January 9, 2014 at 2:58 pm Laconophile

    He’s pretty much complaining that the Spartans weren’t faggots.

    It’s a sad fact that masculine women are a by-product of masculine men. Sexual dimorphism can only go so far in separating the sexes. However masculine Spartan women were, the men were far more masculine, that’s why there were so few of them. CH may not be to imagine a man more masculine than a Spartan woman, but rest assured they existed.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:08 pm chi-town

      I think it more complicated. Two problems were the men going off to war leaving the country in the hands of women and then the large estates. One has the effect of polygamy where the luxurious Ephorate hogs the women and the other leaving men with no landed investment in the kingdom . It would be like coming home from Afganistan and finding rich men of Wall Street with 5 of their former wivers. No land and no women. Why fight for that?

      Also notice what happened to us after WWII when the men left. Marks the social decline as well.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:16 pm corvinus

        Muslim men seem to have no problems with going to war. But maybe the 72 virgins thing is how they’re convinced to.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:16 pm chi-town

        72 virgins is quite a scam isn’t it? Kinda like VCR porn of the ancient world running on their stupid imaginations,

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:23 pm Mr.C

        Islam’s war to “Save the World”.

        http://howardbloom.net/the-lucifer-principle/islams-war-to-save-the-world/

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:20 pm Marco

      They were more assertive than other Greek women for sure, but they were physically without rivals, see Aeschylus’ Lysistrasra: in one scene the Athenian women gather in awe of the Spartan woman Lampito:
      ‘Hey, hold it, here’s the Spartan Lampito now!
      Lysistrata
      Lampito, darling, welcome, greetings from us all.
      what a gorgeous specimen, you lovely thing!
      What healthy skin, what firmness of physique!
      You could take on a bull!
      Lampito
      Is not impossible.
      I go to gym, I make my buttocks hard.
      Calonice
      I’ve never seen a pair of boobs like that!
      Lampito
      You feel them: like blue-ribbon ox, you think!’

      http://perseus.uchicago.edu/perseus-cgi/citequery3.pl?dbname=GreekFeb2011&getid=2&query=Ar.%2520Lys.%252046

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:51 pm Matthew King

        Appreciate all of your primary source references, brother. CH’s too! We’ve had enough fifth-hand conjecture for a lifetime from mediocrities ’round these parts.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 10:16 am Laconophile

        The ideal of beauty in Ancient Greece was male. So that makes sense.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 9:44 am The Burninator

      Laconophile,

      Perhaps you are not aware that exceedingly masculine men seek out exceptionally feminine women, and vice versa?

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 9:30 am Laconophile

        Nearly all men seek out relatively feminine women. More women are relatively feminine when compared to exceedingly masculine men. It is the relatively feminine men who exclusively seek exceptionally feminine women, because only they are feminine by comparison.

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    • on January 12, 2014 at 8:58 am Héctor

      Reading skills is not something so common as I thought. The same can be said of common sense in your case “Laconophile”. By the way, the most masculine men, DO NOT GO FOR BULLDIKES…

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 9:14 am Laconophile

        Who said anything about bulldykes? You’re the one with poor reading skills.

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  17. on January 9, 2014 at 3:24 pm Tilikum

    it needs to be said again:

    “To be disappointed in women is like being disappointed in your dog. Or your cordless drill.

    Dominate them completely and they will stand by while you molest babies.

    No woman is a person.”

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:14 pm Svetlana Svetlana

      Woman is not a person but you are the greatest person. I can tell you must have the choice of mailorder brides. But you have enough of dollars? You have career? Otherwise what an alone person you will be. Maybe African woman is cheapest, you can have African woman. She is waiting for you under palmtree.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:21 pm cortesar

        Svetlana Svetlana Svetlana are you Russian?
        There is a number of males here writing daily eulogies about Russian women
        We expect that you show some passion like Ana K or an ultimate sacrifice like Sonya,ready to follow Raskolnikov to Siberia
        I do not have a career and no dollars to mention but I like Russian literature. I was told that I can get some Russian pussy for free if I read all Russian classics So I did
        Do not tell me that that was just another lie perpetrated by Frankfurt school

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 9:12 am chi-town

        You are unfamiliar with male pschology and the need to hold to idealistic myths for a purpose. A man on a battle field must fixate on his invincibilty and as the embodyment of the destroyer that cannot be destoryed. What it means is under certain circumstances a man needs to strip a woman of her will entirely for the sake of all, even her. It is not you or for you, its a psycholgical objectivication for the way a man must sometimes be. The same man can ceretainly love his woman, perhaps even more so than the one who cowarly waits for approval.

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  18. on January 9, 2014 at 3:30 pm Uncle Elmer

    Plutarch also said this about 2000 years before the Internet :

    “Make trial in small things to build up one’s resistance to the vice of curiosity by refraining from reading graffiti and other writing on walls. Taking notice of such things may seem harmless, but the more the mind is allowed to exercise its curiosity on things that are not pertinent the more it will tend to curiosity about unworthy subjects in general. It is better to train oneself to mind noble and useful things.”

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 10:08 am Revo Luzione

      Possibly most pertinent life-hacking info ever posted here in the comments. Definitely in the top 5 I’ve seen.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 11:47 am Greg Eliot

      Excellent…

      Of course, when one of us here at the chateau says the equivalent, the wannabe poosy trollers (who, dollars to donuts, never had the presence of a father in the house) say we’re old fogies, need to remember how to have fun, never-go-out-keyboard jockeys, (put your favorite South Park snark here), etc., etc., etc.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:55 am Greg Eliot

        Exhibit A, witness Goober Bling Cap’s tirade below.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:33 pm haunted trilobite

        I must admit, all the big words were hurting my head, so I was glad somebody called a muh-dik.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 6:50 pm OralCummings

      So stop reading Jezebel!

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  19. on January 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm fakeemail

    Wasn’t one reason that Napolean amassed power because he gave each peasant man rights to his own meager plot and his own woman to bone? Thus, these dirt poor betas pledged undying loyalty to fighting and dying for France. Affordable family formation, blood and soil, boning. . .this is what men care about.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 5:21 pm chi-town

      And they always talk about his tactical abilities without talking about how he walked through France amassing an army out of nowhere. Fill his stomach and empty his balls is a statement that triumphs again.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 9:29 pm bloxistan

      his return to feudalistic principles was matched only by his contempt for central bankers

      “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.”

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:49 am Greg Eliot

        He was probably “just jealous” of the intelligence and drive of the money-changers.

        llzzozlzlzozozlzozozllzozozlzlzl

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 10:56 am Lucius Somesuch

        lolzlollzlz Vive l’Empereur!

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:52 pm OralCummings

        Anti-semite!

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  20. on January 9, 2014 at 4:02 pm damntull

    Arbiter, shut your hole. Wisdom is wisdom, even when it comes from Near Easterners.

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  21. on January 9, 2014 at 4:18 pm Pluviophile

    Interesting. I experience catharsis by attacking liberalism through fiction, it’s how I wage war against the enemy. As I mentioned before, I’m currently writing a novel surveying a man’s pilgrimage from patriot to anti-government radicalist.

    I have no interest in writing a manuscript exploring game qua game per se, e.g., a tale documenting YaReally’s transformation from omega incel to synthetic PUA khalif. Twenty-percent of men enjoy eighty-percent of the pussy supply, but as CH noted many times before, what’s good for the cad is not necessarily good for civilization.

    I’m ready to explore beyond the pick-up routines and psychological legerdemain we employ to satisfy ourselves and our denatured females. I want to rip the feminist rot out by the fucking root.

    Feminism, being a sub-ideology of liberalism, cannot sever itself from its mother’s umbilical cord so I’m unsure if it is even possible to attack feminism through fiction without attacking its guardian.

    I suppose the challenge will be to demonstrate through character and plot that the left is incapable of subverting human nature by attacking liberalism at its most patently defenseless outgrowth, and that its defeat will result in an implication–to be extrapolated from the male/female dynamic to all areas of life–that inequality is an absolute moral good

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 6:23 pm Zombie Shane

      > “I suppose the challenge will be to demonstrate through character and plot that the left is incapable of subverting human nature by attacking liberalism at its most patently defenseless outgrowth”

      As I was saying above, if you want your filthy evil witch-cunt of an anti-heroine to flip on a dime, and become Joan of Arc right in front of your eyes, then put some buns in her oven.

      Nothing makes a bitch wake the hell up and finally start giving a damn – about the burgeoning national debt, about knockout game / polar bear, about citizenry replacementism via illegal immigration, about The Frankfurt School puppet-masters laughing all the way to the bank – than to have to start worrying about what sort of a civilization she will be bequeathing to her children and grandchildren.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:56 am irishsavant

        My own niece is living breathing proof of that. In technicolour (betraying my age here). She professed to hating me for my views and blog. Now she’s a fan. All due to a single offspring.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 7:20 pm immoralgables

      WTF drivel is this man. Seriously, get your head of your ass and go approach. That will be the single-greatest feedback you get in the game.

      Ideologies, liberalism, synthetic PUA. Fucking nonsense are you talking about

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:38 pm Matthew King

        Wasn’t written for you, insecure illiterate. Not everything has to be dumbed down into your “APPROACH MOAR” language to be viable.

        Go back to fellating Chef Boyardee while the adults are enjoying gourmet. Like I’ve said many times, we can co-exist as long as you don’t freak out about conversations above your pay grade and jump around like a ghetto baboon insulted when people be talkin’ white in your presence. You find all that fancytalk somehow insulting and can’t help but interject. Guess what: it’s not about you.

        Sheesh, can’t even leave you alone to your interminable field analyses and mutual scrote tickling. When people wonder why we can’t get along, why we can’t live and let live, this is the reason.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:44 pm ChefBoyardee

        that gables dome tho

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:54 pm immoralgables

        Like I give a fuck that we can’t get along lol

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:55 pm bloxmosis

        (he meant it as a race war shiv)

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:58 pm immoralgables

        Oh shit, race war. The incessant shit argued by the KJs all the time.

        Less i forget, I live in NYC.

        Where an Indian guy with a speech impediment can pick up sexy asians in the day.

        Where a korean guy can ONS with sexy white chicks at night.

        Where a black guy, can pick up a latina on the subway an instadate her.

        where the guys arguing about race are…

        Oh fuck, nvm. Most of the racemongers aren’t doing shit but complaining.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:12 am FamilyMan

        NYC has a nice ratio and at least as many of the planet’s hottest females as any other city.

        Wonder how it will change with the new mayor. DeBlasio is expected to bring back decadence. That could mean more types of interesting lifestyles and opportunities.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:53 am Greg Eliot

        I visit NYC frequently, kid… give me your hang-out locales so I can buy you a drink… maybe treat you to a Yankee games… and we can discuss some of our differences in a gentlemanly fashion.

        And truth be told, I’m just dying to see what that lid looks like in person.

        llozozozlzlzozozlzlzozozlzlzozozlzlzl

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 1:24 pm immoralgables

        Greg,

        No.

        -IG

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:13 pm Matthew King

        When people wonder why we can’t get along, why we can’t live and let live, this is the reason.

        Bold this time for comprehension.

        Note, I didn’t say, “When monomaniacal tryhard shitskins wonder why they can’t get along with me…” That would have been your cue to listen.

        My very first line: “Wasn’t written for you, insecure illiterate.” Neither was my reply. Neither is this. Don’t let the second-person usage fool you. We are talking above you and in a language you cannot understand (but makes you anxious nonetheless).

        For all any of us care, you may revel forever in the dusky odor of Gooks and Spades and 7-11 Clerks With Lisps all coming together on the subway under the rainbow banner of PUA game. Nobody was talking to you when you interjected yourself.

        There is a difference between explaining you and engaging you. Learn it, for your own progress. Add the missing skill of detection to your decade-long program of remedial social training … I mean “game.” You are months from attaining your G.E.D. and you think you can converse with men.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:53 pm Jay in DC

        You are on the border of my tolerance right now IG. I usually find you very genuine and honest. Stick to what you know which is making the best of 2014. Approach, FR, etc. But leave the ‘heavy lifting’ to people beyond you. There is NO shame in spite of what you have been taught to admitting limitations.

        Exempli Gratia— Matt King has a vocabulary far beyond my reach. He was raped, at a young age, with a Theasurus, so fought back earnestly against this injustice. You and I cannot understand pain such as this, but we shouldn’t try to either.

        Pluviophile– You are a beta, that is not an insult. Everything you have posted since I have replied to you confirms it. TRUE alphas, like moi, know the score. Betas are the girders and props that hold up a functional civilization. If you spent most of your days attempting to emulate me, it would still come up short. But you have found a higher calling which is disseimnation of valuable info that uplifts all males.

        You are on the right track. Read more everywhere, information is free, this is one of our only weapons. And when you have enough of it, launch your salvo.

        This is really a war of ideology as you probably know. YaReally is expendable, an entertainer at worst, and Agent Provocateur at best, but I don’t think he stands for a higher cause, which is sad actually for someone of his talent. He would make for an amazing spy.

        So don’t base anything in specifics. Just make general observation about the state of things, and work from there. Can’t give you better advice than this…

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:53 pm Pluviophile

        Pluviophile– You are a beta, that is not an insult. Everything you have posted since I have replied to you confirms it. TRUE alphas, like moi, know the score

        I wouldn’t emulate you comrade. I’ve already learned the universe, an unseen force, God, whatever you want to call it, corrects for braggadocio.

        Now, you seem like a decent character but your chest thumping betrays your words, moreover it’s n166erish and bad form. Likewise, Jay, insult is not my intent, but I imagine you have some sort of insecurity you might be trying to take into custody. If I’m correct, I hope you exorcise the demon, step over it without apology, and move on to a more perfect understanding of who you are and who you can become.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:19 pm Matthew King

        I endorse.

        Though Jay’s excitability is generally harmless and amusing. And he strikes me as someone smart enough to self-correct even as he’s sprinting toward the (mutual) goal.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:05 pm Pluviophile

        YaReally is expendable, an entertainer at worst, and Agent Provocateur at best, but I don’t think he stands for a higher cause, which is sad actually for someone of his talent.

        Well said.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:57 am Greg Eliot

        Shut the fuck up, Donnie… you’re out of your element.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:58 pm Pluviophile

        Fucking nonsense are you talking about

        Worthless. Absolutely worthless.

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      • on January 12, 2014 at 2:33 am anonymous

        immoralgables may have to live with the dubious distinction of being the only regular reader/commenter of this blog with an IQ under 90 (although stilicho certainly isn’t far ahead).

        Then again, at least his presence serves a positive reminder to the newly arrived betas/omegas refugees who find their way here:

        “If this fucking retard can (allegedly) get laid, anybody, and I mean ANYBODY can do it”.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 7:36 am Mel Gibson

      Cool. Writing stories is a passion and I’ve been mulling how to tell a story of a RP man in the future world (the one we all see coming) where liberalism has gone unchecked and unbalanced.

      Best of luck. Let me know if you’d like to email and we can take it offline.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 2:58 pm Pluviophile

        Interesting idea.

        Do you have an MFA in fiction? If not, what books have you read on fiction as craft?

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    • on January 12, 2014 at 3:24 pm Scray

      Or…you could just shut up and write a compelling, masculine protagonist. The problem in this comment section is that it’s extremely reactive. Nothing constructive, here. And these individuals try to lump themselves in with a great tradition of men that came before them yet, through words like these, they show themselves as alien to that tradition. Those who are strong, need only be who they are to serve as a rebuke of the world’s wrongness — or weakness. In plainer terms, stop whining like a faggot. Your words are bitter — get your shit straight before trying to take on the world.

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  22. on January 9, 2014 at 4:22 pm Matthew Walker

    WTF is this, GBFM? He’s an idiot and a bore.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 12:00 am Jay in DC

      Not really, but as much as I know there is a VERY high IQ above the charade of stupidity, brevity, apparently, is lost on him. And this makes me not appreciate his posts. If I wanted to scroll 7 times on spam I would summon Lily from the Dark Depths to Defend the Jew on every post.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 12:31 am GBFM

      Die

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 1:15 am FamilyMan

      I think he’s an English Lit. prof. who uses the lollzlzlzlz to cover up his writing style. Being not leftwing he doesn’t “out” himself, to make his professional life smoother. Writing under pseudonyms is an old honored tradition.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 10:41 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      alpha et beta sive approbet sive improbet illos leones,
      quod dat , quam volvuntur
      da nobis butthexting cockass sive approbet sive improbet , et iam sugit,
      et crescit sicut in anuthes deosul
      alpha et beta sive approbet sive improbet illos leones,
      est via da da fed
      ut transferrent assetss amitteret , qui butthext
      incestum , qui pro nobis panem dose
      arietes alpha et beta sive approbet sive improbet
      quid suus docebit nos sumus , ‘Magna etiam inscribitur
      da assetts eruit nos de betas
      da nobis per foramen enim , postquam Eliphaz desol poo
      lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

      Latin Edition Nuptias CHORUS lzozozozo

      Arctius liber IV minor esset calidior dedit
      rursus cum in collegium sum , triginta libras levius
      non satis in , vulputate ut, butthext yyou repudii iudicium
      et ecce ventus massa tellus buttehxtual
      Donec scelerisque venenatis lingerie dat omnibus alimonee
      confutuere et nutrientibus alpha galli gallinacei eris beta est IV MINGO
      Indi ille teee heee l heee
      Indi ille teee heee heee !
      da mihi parcus liberati womanz
      i nunc et prius matrimonium buttehxt
      et in ea , non autem apud te
      sed pater da infantem in da , gestus
      lzozozzlozoz

      da, da Eliphaz incestum betas cockhold
      in die qua tradidit in MBA paulatim disciplina datsz
      da quod nihil veri et judicium in legibus feiisnsits
      da magna erat in omnibus libris , et dices ad menz stulti .
      sic, sic, feci me ipsum gmats
      Dey bernenakifed animam meam , et non remansit in me et feles

      zlzlzzozozozo

      zlzoozozozozo

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:41 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul
        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread
        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

        SPECIAL EDITION WEDDING CHORUS lzozozozo

        i gave it 4 free when i was younger hotter tighter
        back in college when i was thirty pounds lighter
        can’t hardly wait to butthext yyou in divorce court
        and have you fund my favorite buttehxtual sport
        gonna buy sexy lingerie with all dat alimonee
        fuck & suck alpha cocks as ur beta cock is just 4 pee
        tee hee hee teee heee heee l
        tee hee hee teee heee heee !
        i’m da modern liberated womanz
        i buttehxt before and after marriage
        and during it too, but not with you
        but with the father of da baby in da carriage
        lzozozzlozoz

        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:50 pm Jay in DC

        LOL! “The power of Christ compels you! The power of…”, you get it.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:08 pm SredniVashtar

        The best GBFM post ever.

        Give that man a radio show

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:25 pm Jay in DC

        Yep, this is pretty awesome. I don’t have time to plug this shit into Google Translate right now, but I think it would come up at least 80% solid.

        Pro Tip for GBFM- From 500 year ago and I damn well know he knows the quote— “Brevity, is the Soul of Wit”. Evolve not only for you, but for all of us as you presence is felt throughout the so called “Manospehere”. You could have simply posted Brother Nathaniel’s latest vid on the petro-dollar and it would have been better and more relevant than your last 3 months worth of posts. Quailty, not quantity, innit?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:25 am Grim

        Bro da GBFM don’t need no pro tips.

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  23. on January 9, 2014 at 4:55 pm Anonymous

    Yes but your article is missing a key component: how can we blame the Jews?

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 5:19 pm Matthew

      – cracks knuckles –

      Sparta was bereft of men after the Peloponnesian war, which was provoked by Athens in its hubris of empire*. Athens was dizzy with success from its starring role in the victory over Persia, which was made possible, in part, by the earlier discovery of rich silver mines**. At the time of the Peloponnesian war, Athens had been having some sort of trouble with foreign residents, especially those married to leading citizens, as evidenced by Pericles’s citizenship law***.

      Judeans are notoriously associated with:

      – nations which discover rich sources of heavy metals
      – hubris of empire
      – expansion of citizenship
      – getting their daughters married to those in authority

      * Or rather, League.
      ** The wealth from which Themistocles coaxed the polis into spending on a navy, thus enabling the slaughter at Salamis.
      *** And also in the case of Pericles’s own wife.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm Greg Eliot

      I don’t know about the rest of the crew here, but I… in the largesse of my Christian heart… am willing to give the Jews a pass on Sparta.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:17 pm Greg Eliot

        Might white of me, eh?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:11 pm Matthew

        Greg, you might find Finck’s Christogenea interesting.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:03 pm Greg Eliot

        I went through the writings of Christian Identity back in the ’70’s… a few things didn’t quite sit right with me, but thanks for the tip… looks like there might be a tidbit or two to glean on his site.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 4:01 pm Matthew

        There’s a lot that doesn’t sit right with me, but I find problems to be more interesting than answers. See, e.g., Velikovsky, Halton Arp, Tom van Flandern.

        The cream of the CII movement has identified some very interesting problems.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm Matthew

        Milquetoast.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:59 am Greg Eliot

        The oak breaks when the wind is too strong… the bamboo bends on occasion and then snaps back. 😉

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 6:18 am earl

      They created the wars the Spartans had to fight in.

      /done

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  24. on January 9, 2014 at 5:38 pm Jeejeej

    It is not completely true that men are the expendable sex. They are the expendable sex in nature; in society however, women are the expandable sex. Humans can survive when there is only 1 man per 100 women, societies can survive when there is only 1 woman per 100 men in the workforce.

    This is the essence of gender roles. Men make society run whilst women make offspring.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 8:27 pm North Vinlander

      Good insight.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:43 pm bloxistan

        bad math tho

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 11:08 pm FamilyMan

      One man can maintain 20 wombs (maybe more) and as for productivity, all you’ve got to do is live in a warm climate and keep out the predators. Animals will be easy, protecting your little paradise from human invasion perhaps not so much.

      You need men if you want productive work done also. But for a low tech society that lives in a friendly ciimate, you may not need as many men as women.

      But then the women would be lonely.

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  25. on January 9, 2014 at 5:43 pm Hearst

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  26. on January 9, 2014 at 7:05 pm unkempt

    while everybody happily holds up Athens as a model democracy and Sparta as a horrible fascist state, Sparta was renowned for the freedom and independence of its women. just goes to show that even a nation of hard ass steel eating nail shitting men eugenically bred and raised from birth to be the baddest and most dedicated warriors on earth can still be laid low if they dont keep a handle on their women.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 10:20 pm FamilyMan

      Warriors don’t control women. They are being all tough and getting killed while the women back home are protected. That’s called chivalry. It’s also not very bright.

      Guys using their brains control women. If you just avoid all the distractions meant to dilute your control, it’s easy. You can’t avoid them all, so in practice it’s hard, but it’s doable and certainly clear thinking increases your success.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:44 pm haunted trilobite

        Good point. The more moderate civilisations throughout history probably had it down pat. Look at America, with its worship of that movie 300 (as well as endless other military movies), and how that translates to a ‘hoo-rah’ fascination with the military among impressionable youngsters who think going off and becoming a jar head is going to make you a man and get you an endless stream of women. The YKW must be in stitches laughing at how easily the gullible lap up their glitzy propaganda like indefatigueable puppies. The moderate societies who weren’t all gung ho were able to just manoeuvre around their women with a few calm thoughts. That’s why they’re all so hysterical in jezabel – they want to draw you into their intense, passionate argument, because that’s the territory they traverse best. Better to be like Snoop and be “too quick up on my toes to get caught up by these hos”

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:25 pm Carlos Danger

        Spartan deference to women originated with Lycurgus, who wanted them to be as equal as possible. It was very communistic in its inspiration and inception. Each sex slept segregated in large open room dormitories but were allowed to sleep with whom they wanted and were married. Spartan children were also raised in common. It ran much like a modern day Kibbutz. Spartan warriors were the officer class and commanded vassal armies as well as Spartan ones. They were able to get much more out allied forces than their own officers would have. There were never enough of them, however. Even at it zenith, Sparta couldn’t put more than 8000 or 9000 Spartan warriors in the field. At the end, the period that Aristotle discusses, the number was well under 1500.

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  27. on January 9, 2014 at 7:07 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    There is always the possibility that the “want of [White American] men” will be solved by the mass importation of African, Hispanic, and Asian men.

    This is, I would propose, the point. I wouldn’t put it past the sick motherfuckers.

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    • on January 11, 2014 at 1:12 am irishsavant

      Nor would I.

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  28. on January 9, 2014 at 8:41 pm Ben - AUS

    Ugh. They know all this. Don’t be stupid. They’re not (at the very, very top of course–past obobo.)

    They *want* to kill themselves. And us with them.

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  29. on January 9, 2014 at 8:41 pm Ben - AUS

    *Not stupid

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  30. on January 9, 2014 at 9:08 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    OT: CH, have you examined the works of the late right-wing philosopher Anthony Ludovici [‘The prophet of anti-feminism’]?

    He had a lot to say on women, sex, and feminism. His ideas might blend with yours.

    http://www.anthonymludovici.com/index.htm

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  31. on January 9, 2014 at 9:22 pm Operation Reinhard

    “Feminists, equalists, open borders nutjobs, and assorted degenerate misfits”

    Those are just the dogs. Don’t forget their master…

    The goddamn Jew.

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    • on January 12, 2014 at 11:07 am Subway Masturbator

      Reemhard–You win!

      Subway Masturbator Dim-Witted Hater of the Day Award. Any attempt at glibness–that trailing three word sputter– by someone at the 3rd to 5th grade reasoning level ALWAYS has the slightly putrid incongruity of a grade schooler in a Nazi uniform. Oh, that rule about debate?– Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Just to spite y’all.

      You get a free poster of Mustache boy, an extra large astroglide, and special blue shop towels to clean up after your blissful reverie.

      Congratulations!

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  32. on January 9, 2014 at 9:32 pm bloxistan

    sry gaiz but we’re too deep in the borg to ever go back now; nukes and shit

    better start working on your post-morality and how to play your part in the soft genocide of whitey.

    check your privilege!

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 12:04 pm Greg Eliot

      check your premises.

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  33. on January 9, 2014 at 10:09 pm laughing mime

    @jeejeej

    ‘women are expandable sex’ – typo influenced by recent CH fat shaming ? :))

    just don’t let this slip of the tongue happen when you talk to actual fatty ; )

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  34. on January 9, 2014 at 10:17 pm FamilyMan

    This article describes non-monogamous relationships in more modern times. It betrays its misandric thought base a couple times (“letting men off the hook isn’t progress”, and the suggestion at the end that things would have been better if her mother had divorced her father) but it has interesting moments as well. It agrees with Aristotle that a dearth of men leads to unconventional (non-monogamous) relationships.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/308654/?single_page=true

    Were US relationships really as unconventional as she says during the history of the USA and colonists?

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 8:14 pm Carlos Danger

      Generally not. America has always had rebellious sects that did things their way, but the vast majority has been the traditional heterosexual 2 party union. People were much more religious back then and weren’t inclined to have a lot of casual sex as we do today. It happened but it was always the minority, a small one at that. I can imagine some polygamy might have gone on in the very early colonies but it didn’t last long and was likely more due to necessity if it happened at all. This is typical Lefty revisionism to make the exception seem to be the norm.

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  35. on January 9, 2014 at 11:37 pm retrophoebia

    Aristotle’s cool and all, but check out Livy’s history of Rome (shameless linkwhorage follows): http://retrophoebia.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/game-lesson-roman-history-edition/

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  36. on January 10, 2014 at 12:21 am Burton

    You’re hitting on all 8 cylinders, CH! 8? 12!

    Feminists, equalists, open borders nutjobs, and assorted degenerate misfits ought to keep in mind that their beloved “progress” comes prepackaged with the seed of their destruction.

    And we are already seeing that play out in the burning of cities in Europe and the self-destruction of the USA.

    History.
    It’s what happens when you blinder your eyes with feminist ideology.

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  37. on January 10, 2014 at 12:21 am 1HourMartinizing

    Good God, this HAS to be a joke. What losers are having sex with a 300lb whale?

    http://www.xojane.com/sex/hi-there-im-fat-forty-single-and-slutty?utm_medium=facebook

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  38. on January 10, 2014 at 2:14 am Ohiomega

    The ancient Greeks were gay as all hell. I’m pretty sure their hatred of women extended all the way to the vagina. They used them for procreation moreso than recreation. Sparta was unique in most facets of society, though, and perhaps in this respect as well. I’m not sure.

    The other thing about Sparta is that their unique way of life, revolving around war, was made possible solely through the subjugation of the Helots, a race they enslaved to grow their food, etc. In between wars with other city states or Persians, they stayed sharp by quelling Helot insurrections.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 1:11 pm Joachim Peiper

      The ancient Greeks were gay as all hell.

      Read the Odyssey and get back to us on that.

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  39. on January 10, 2014 at 4:37 am anon

    ” For although a single man can, conceivably, star in a version of Boogie Years and spread his seed to the four corners of the country to rebuild a stricken population, that single man is also critically vulnerable to overrun by hungry barbarians who get word of a land where they can dine on honeydew and drink the milk of paradise for the low low price of one man’s scalp.”

    Which would be a good thing because therwise it would be all brothers and sisters you PERVERT! 😛

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  40. on January 10, 2014 at 6:21 am earl

    The want of a FEW greedy men leads to ruin of everyone.

    The Spartans were Bernakified.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 1:01 pm Greg Eliot

      And the Athenians butthext.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:54 pm Carlos Danger

        Athens was screwed by class differences. The rowers in the fleet were the poorest citizens, and served as rowers because it didn’t require them to provide any equipment. They each earned a drachma a day as pay, often twice what they earned as laborers or tenant farmers. It was also safer work than being a cavalryman or hoplite. During the Peloponnesian War, Athens held several unsuccessful votes to bring the war to a close. This was largely due to the rowers wanting to keep earning their high pay. Moreover, their presence could be intimidating in open votes because they were all very fit and strong from rowing so much. Eventually, noblemen from both Sparta and Athens conspired to set up an oligarchy and later a benign dictatorship. And that was how Athenian democracy died.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:00 pm Carlos Danger

        In addition, the state fed and housed the Rowers’ families from imported grain from the Crimea and southern Ukraine financed by their trade duties through the Delian League. The timber imported from Macedonia made it rich and set the stage for Athen’s demise at the hands of Phillip II of Macedon. He is in my opinion one of the greatest warriors and statesmen in history. It is a pity he was murdered.

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  41. on January 10, 2014 at 6:33 am Cleber

    The wives wouldn’t want having babies anymore, then Sparta fell.

    http://www.law.virginia.edu/pdf/olin/0708/hanssen.pdf

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  42. on January 10, 2014 at 7:02 am Mark Minter

    Off topic but of interest to subversives.

    The Pirate Bay is designing a new P2P internet that circumvents DNS. The general idea is that the content is packed and downloaded to you and a special browser using webkit realizes the pages. Subsequent downloads contain only changes and occur as p2p currently occurs. Rather than centralized servers, the content is then spead out among the participants in the P2P network. I would assume if there is dynamic, database delivered data, then the “url” to obtain that content is contained in the updated content. I would assume you could slide databases or replicate them across multiple servers with the access info hidden and encapsulated behind server functions. The implementation imports a technical challenge but is quite doable. I would think a the rough sketch of the tech required was probably sketched out in just a few design sessions.

    Here is an article describing the undertaking. I states that it should be out there and running “in a few months”. The Pirate Bay Browser has achieved great success for allowing users to circumvent ISP censorship and blocking and the downloads have passed 2.5 million. I would assume the Browser in the P2P net was the lynchpin in the whole internet endeavor and TPB has the Pirate Bay Browser as a starting point.

    http://torrentfreak.com/how-the-pirate-bay-plans-to-beat-censorship-for-good-140105/

    So to sort of get back onto topic…..
    Sparta don’t code.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 11:03 am thwack

      There is a risk that any code can become so sophisticated in its attempt to get around censorship and blocking that it confuses even its emitter and/or receiver; in addition for the potential loss of the time value of new information.

      Just sayin.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 1:32 pm thwack

        thwack

        There is a risk that any code can become so sophisticated…
        —————————————————————————————————-

        That ni66as think it don’t apply to them; or that they can get around it…

        *think again*

        15 year old gets 118 years for armed robbery

        Travion Blount’s punishment may be the harshest in America for a teen who didn’t commit murder. The 15-year-old robbed a Norfolk party with two older gang members. He hurt no one. His friends got 10 and 13 years. But as it stands, Blount will die in prison.

        http://hamptonroads.com/blount

        Blount knew he would spend years in prison. He didn’t expect to die there.

        Angela Blount watched her son turn and ask, “What happened, Mom?”

        Cue Ice T:

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 12:59 pm Jay in DC

      Off topic but of interest to subversives.

      Indeed. It isn’t just porn and movies that need to move darkly. Manuals and “recipes” are always better handled in such a manner.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 3:07 pm SredniVashtar

      Guess what Mark?

      Spartans don’t preach incessantly to gullible followers about avoiding marriage as the worst thing in the world, then immediately wed the first pretty lady to come along.

      I suspect your commitment to fighting internet censorship is as deep as your previous convictions.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 7:56 pm Stilicho

        +10

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:40 pm Jay in DC

        Sick Ass, 100 percent, Grade A, RealTalk™

        I’m guessing there will not be a followup post because this drama has been hashed out all across the manosphere for many months.

        I have no dog in this fight, so whether MM responds or doesn’t matters fuck all to me. But let me play Devil’s Advocate as I am exemplary in this role….

        Mark Minter, who not to be a dick, I’d not heard of before is not an alpha dude by any yardstick I’ve ever seen. He is a high beta, ok, cool. But he is one of the originators of Red Pill, and this is a wonderful thing. He castigates blue pill men for years, but then finds Kate, who is a 100% red pill chick and, at least as I’ve seen, has been for many years.

        And you call him on the carpet for trying to ring up one of the last and dying breed Americunts that understand the dynamic between men and women?

        I don’t have Mark Minter problems, I have RooshV problems. Poland is usually best. Ukraine is also awesome, Czech Republic is turning into a land of mercenary hookers, Hungary is great but they are too fucking hard to talk to overall since they have more in common with Finns than Slavs.

        I could go on… but suffice to say— I never heard of this dude prior to the Manosphere castigating him, and turning him into a decade long example of exactly how not to proceed.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 8:31 am Kate

        “then immediately wed the first pretty lady to come along”

        Not wed. Not the first. But, pretty lady? I’ll take it!

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 4:36 pm Greg Eliot

        You’re the Helen of the Manosphere, darlin’… our own special snowflake.

        And Amy’s our Penelope. 😀

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 6:49 pm Kate

        Aw 🙂 I think?

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  43. on January 10, 2014 at 8:53 am Troubadour

    Random scene I witnessed: Hot 19 year old was talking about one of my managers. He saw her through the window and came into the room, whereupon she told him, blushing, “If you and I were the only two people on earth, we could repopulate the planet.”

    Guess who cheated on his wife? Guess who DIDN’T get fired for fucking a subordinate? Years later, now I understand what that was all about.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 11:01 am A Random Guy

      Wow…

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  44. on January 10, 2014 at 3:20 pm universe

    Good, although brief, pointed pertinent to the times, essay, and commentary, too.

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  45. on January 10, 2014 at 6:29 pm haunted trilobite

    Great post. Thanks for bringing pertinent wisdom of the ancients to light

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  46. on January 10, 2014 at 7:11 pm cheers

    “greg eliot” writes with a dick inside him. That is the explanation.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 7:42 pm Carlos Danger

      That was pretty edgy. I wish I had thought of that. Besides, I thought you progtards liked faggotry and see it as no different from heterosexual sex and something everyone should try? How then can it be an insult?

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 3:55 am Jon

        Progressives like faggots but avoid talking about faggotry (lest such talk reawaken normal revulsion repressed in men’s washed brains).

        Their sub-85 IQ clients OTOH, hate gays as much if not more than normal people.

        That said, Greg doesn’t help matters by calling everybody who doesn’t agree with him a “fairy”.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:32 pm Greg Eliot

        Geez, Louise… if anyone doesn’t grok by now that the “You fairy” is an ironic homage to Glengarry Glen Ross that has become one of my shticks here at the chateau, then I can’t help you guys any more.

        And whether people agree with me or not ain’t the issue… it’s whether they spout the Cathedral and/or muh-dik litany that gets ’em the “You fairy”.

        A third earning goes to those of slow comprehension…

        You fairy.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 12:35 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… that’s one of the “tells” about the mental illness that is homosexuality… as an insult, they accuse you of being one of them.

        llzozozozlzlzlzozozl

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    • on January 11, 2014 at 12:39 pm Greg Eliot

      Well, that was somewhat random…

      I must have missed who was asking for an explanation of Greg Eliot’s contributions here at the chateau.

      Of continued interest (and confusion)… to me, anyway… is why there are periodically-appearing sock puppies who single me out in particular, when so many here are sympatico with my opinions, and indeed, often a sight more virulent in the expression of such.

      I must be doing something right. 😉

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 4:50 pm Gro Haila

        birds of one feather, cracker.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 7:35 pm Greg Eliot

        Whatever that means. (((shakin’ mah haid)))

        And for the record: that’s Mister Cracker, to you… you fairy.

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  47. on January 11, 2014 at 3:38 am “The want of men was their ruin” | ...

    […] Aristotle expounded on the fall of Sparta at the hands of their women. It’s brisk reading and, to CH readers, offers familiar theories about the sexes.  […]

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  48. on January 11, 2014 at 6:06 am Carlos Danger

    http://msnvideo.msn.com/?channelindex=4&from=en-us_msnhp#/video/10d5e718-4c37-4507-9109-d719004c34ea

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  49. on January 11, 2014 at 6:06 am Carlos Danger

    This dog is Alpha.

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  50. on January 12, 2014 at 12:52 pm Anon

    Same thing happened in Rome. They wiped out the small holder so that the latifundia owners could prosper, up until the barbarians came in that is.

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  51. on January 13, 2014 at 12:50 pm DFCtomm

    A man is expendable, but men are not.

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  52. on January 14, 2014 at 11:01 pm Lightning Round – 2014/01/15 | Free Northerner

    […] Aristotle: Sparta and spoiled women. […]

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