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Why Chateau Heartiste Taunts Loudmouth Fatties

January 9, 2014 by CH

Occasionally, barely concealed incipient concern trolls will ask why CH gives so much shit to obstreperous fatties instead of just leaving them to their moribund misery.

The answer — besides a vigorous reminder that CH is not a camp of saints — is that loud and proud fatso promoters deliver a caustic, soul destroying message that will increase the total amount of ugliness and unhappiness in the world should women reading their lies start to believe them. Fat apologist feminists who insist on writing manifestos excusing or rationalizing or glorifying their fatness, or slandering anti-fat crusaders, will get, and do very much deserve, both barrels of the shivgun. Call it environmental activism. Call it the penile erection protection program.

Lies must be met with truth. Ideally, that truth comes packaged in stylistic ordnance that explodes in a shower of entertaining dazzle for fence-sitting gawkers and liquidates the central processing egos of the blubbery lie machines. Utterly annihilated, their demolecularized fatty essence scattered to the wind, the suffering fat chick (and it’s almost always a chick claiming fatness is fine, which should tell you something) howling in pain and impotent indignation serves as an example for the others: If you spread filthy lies that cause, intentionally or consequentially, women to be stripped of their beauty and thus men deprived of their happiness, CH will be here at the ready, the tip of its nimble hate spear plunging deep into your ululating hindbrain, probing, excavating, and finally stabbing with the force of a thousand unleashed hells the heart of your scarred, coal black id.

Fat shaming now, fat shaming tomorrow, fat shaming forever! MOOAH!

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  1. on January 9, 2014 at 10:44 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    Hellz yeah. Never give up.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 11:43 am Matthew King

      Brings to mind an important point on strategy.

      In pseudonymity it is important to deliver the uncompromising radical message. The radical fringe feeds truth to the moderates and keeps them from drifting toward the enemy.

      The moderates do the public compromising, disavowing any connection to the radical, pseudonymous truth-tellers, and occasionally attacking them. Maintaining their mainstream credibility helps us score short-term victories, but maintaining private connections (e.g., like Paul Ryan reading CH) keeps long-term consistency with radical agenda.

      It’s a mirroring of the Alinsky leftist method. Obama grows up in the School for Radicals, pals around with uncompromising radicals like Ayres and Wright, but loudly disavows his connection to accomplish mainstream respectability.

      (The problem occurs when the radicals start demanding purity tests from the public face of our agenda, the agents of slow reform like NRO, William Bennett, Paul Ryan. Note the left never subverts itself in that way.)

      Matt

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 4:39 pm Chad

        The radical message pales in comparison to the controlling of the narrative. Essentially this means everything is presented for public consumption as a morality play. So it matters less to the public whether or not a message is true or not, but whether the messenger makes them feel good about the message.

        This is why their ideas are peddled in ways that make their supporters feel good independent of whether or not they are feasible. In contrast their opponent will have any objections dismissed as being full of hate. In a way they excuse their radicalness by demonizing their opponents.

        Thus the fatties will never figure that there is any concern by those who point out the health effects of obesity like we’re always supposed to assume of people who oppose smoking. Even if their obesity is addressed it’s to mention that these people are victims of restaurants that sell unhealthy food.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:54 pm Matthew King

        The truth has its own special persuasive power.

        Success will be a matter of carving out a protected space for men to live honestly. That is, give men the choice of a life of leisure and parasitism or a life of challenge and industry, and what will a young comer choose? We only need one or two out of ten: in concentrated form, we will rule the passive polloi. That’s the American mythos, anyway, and I believe in it. I have faith that a critical mass of (white) men will choose a productive life over an easy life. Our current predicament owes to becoming complacent by our success (“Ahhh fuggit, let women vote, it’ll be a gas…”), and the parasites oozed into positions of power while we were drunk/hungover.

        Whatever happens, we have nature on our side, and they will always have to rely on mutation, lies, and corruption. Men have conquering in their blood. Every wave of youth brings a fresh burst of energy that the enemy must scurry around to corral.

        I do not think it possible that the light can go out completely. We have to concentrate on simply getting to the new generation before the Father of Lies and his offspring do.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:50 am chi-town

        The truth is only really useful for those in positions of power. Knowing natural forces is useful, but does not really harness them, and we simply lack the resources to do so at the level of any real social level.

        As to winning or losing, white men are no more than dead wood compared to the cargo on the ships at sea. Agreed they hold the bearings of a sustainable progressive civilization that fuels virtues that otherwise would go to waste on vice. Beautiful women given away as bounties for technological advancement would make us a space age civilization in a few hundred years. Even those that harvest the wheat in primitive places ….

        http://www.kenyan-post.com/2013/09/all-kenyan-prostitutes-now-move-to-narok.html

        There is nothing to win or lose since the European as we knew them are already extinct, drown in their own success like yeast while the other people’s of the earth drink the whiskey of what was born from the European blood lettings.

        But there can never be only vice. That natural law cannot be overturned. No leftest rhetoric can sustain itself. Even parasites one day find themselves having to tend the very gardens they have raided, and are made servants to their symbiotic duties.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:18 am Arbiter

        The problem occurs when the radicals start demanding purity tests from the public face of our agenda

        Ah, right there. You reveal that you haven’t done any activism. Then you would know that the real problem is when mainstreamers attack the truth-telling radicals on ideological grounds. They are no longer “just driving the train a shorter distance in the same direction” but in another direction entirely, leading people astray.

        Here is what happens when a movement, an organization or party is hijacked: First, it is built by those who sacrifice careers, money and relationships in order to stay true to the truth. They know to not speak the whole truth at once if the people can’t handle it. They are committed to a piecemeal approach.

        The lazy mainstreamers scoff at them. But when the movement gets off the ground, some from the mainstream want to join. Immediately they set themselves up as “normal people” to gain status from that, as if the movement founders would be filth. Yeah, the founders have no money, careers or family. But that’s because they were attacked relentlessly by the media, and sacrificed themselves.

        The mainstreamers still think they are superior. They don’t bother to read any of the material available, they are too dumb, too cowardly and too lazy for that. They long for media acceptance, because they are sheeple, so they keep denouncing the “extremists”, which is the only new idea they have. And they do want to show that they are the people with the new ideas.

        Now, all movements are ruled by small factions. A new faction consisting of mainstreamers will run the denouncing of the “extremists” in order to gain support from the larger herd of mainstreamers who have joined in the movement’s enlargement. The new faction wants the power for themselves. They also often have their own pet agenda, based on religion, economy or Israel. They don’t care if the movement is hurt by throwing out those who are more experienced. They have no sense of shame, and don’t care that they are hurting those who went before them and created it all.

        I will take one of the more visible examples, William Buckley and the National Review, even though Buckley himself wasn’t exactly a radical. You think the NRO is on “our” side, apparently. But William Buckley, the founder, lamented allowing the neocons take control of the magazine he built. They threw out wiser, better men like Joseph Sobran, who had worked at the magazine for decades. And you claim the problem is the radicals demanding purity tests? When did Joseph Sobran ever demand a purity test? He wrote one story criticizing Israel – and he was out. “That is unacceptable in conservatism,” screeched the anti-conservative neocons.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:18 am chi-town

        This site was founded upon skirt chasing. I believe that one of the premises is that nothing fuels art like this pursuit. Why else is it that read this kind of well articulated argument here?

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:49 pm Matthew King

        You reveal that you haven’t done any activism

        Couldn’t be more correct. I act rather than engage in activ-ism, the empty expenditure of cathartic energy, which is a tale told by an idiot, full of Sturm und Drang, signifying nothing.

        “When mainstreamers attack the truth-telling radicals on ideological grounds,” then it is time to rely on the prophylactic pseudonymity of the radicals. The key to it all is making the truth-tellers impervious to “attack.”

        Did I say NRO “is on our side”? No, I more precisely defined them as useful moderates to be manipulated rather than dismissed as insufficiently pure, as you are now trying to do. We do not want truth tellers and radicals on the staff of National Review! That would do nothing but target them for annihilation.

        We have to work smarter than you propose. We have to be twice as smart as them. The enemy never attacks useful idiots but rather relies on them. You want to lecture the insufficiently fervid like a schoolmarm, like that will help anything but further isolate allies-of-convenience in the mainstream.

        I’ve been saying this all along: this community doesn’t need any more truth, it’s got enough veritas in dry storage to last the next hundred nuclear winters. This community rather needs leadership that knows how to deploy truth strategically, surgically with scalpels and umbrella-tip injections, not hatchets and mallets and constipated war cries.

        Matt

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  2. on January 9, 2014 at 11:06 am Hearst

    It’s out of love.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 11:19 am Ohiomega

      Pimp-ass moniker! Deadwood is the most alpha show in history.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 11:45 am Matthew King

      Deus caritas est.

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  3. on January 9, 2014 at 11:23 am fakeemail

    Same reason I can never admire the pluck of a fat cheerleader who has the guts to go out there and “enjoy her life.” She looks ridiculous. If she really wants to be a cheerleader, she should lose the weight and then go for it. Because a cheerleader is supposed to be nimble and athletic.

    But she doesn’t really want to be one. She wants to make a “point” and humiliate herself; and screech with indignation against any one who dare make a negative comment.

    Would some fat-ass man be allowed to get away with no ridicule if he’s trying out for Mr. Olympia?

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:07 pm Canadian Friend

      We have to lower the bar for women as if they were children or retards, but then they also insist – in fact demand – that we consider them, that we call them our equal.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:50 pm corvinus

      Cheerleading is basically the feminine professional sport. There’s a reason the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders have become famous: quality. If a squad admits fatties, that squad should be ridiculed until they don’t any more.

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    • on January 11, 2014 at 11:42 pm Nicole

      I have to disagree only because of the variety factor. Variety is a good thing, and if the girl can do the job big, then why not just for the novelty?

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  4. on January 9, 2014 at 11:27 am thecivilizationalist

    OT
    I have a blog related to evo-psych concepts. Would love to hear feedback from CH and the readers.
    My latest post is here: http://humancivilizations.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/male-homosexuality-as-a-sexual-competition-reduction-mechanism/
    I deals with an evolutionary theory of how homosexuality is linked with paedophilia, and how such a mechanism could have been evolutionarily selected.

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  5. on January 9, 2014 at 11:28 am Chris from Dublin

    Many years ago I was in a workplace which was dominated by a loudmouth fatty. On top of all this she was an obnoxious cunt also. I can think of few people who I disliked so much. My dislike for this person became pathological – everything she did grated upon me, every thing she said, every time I had to look at her vacant, imbecilic face.

    You are quite right to use the term “loudmouth” – the fact that she seemed to have never ever ever had any kind of original thought did not disqualify her from being the noisiest fucker in the workplace. If she had been silent, at least that would have been a saving grace.

    This deeply unhappy individual hid her personal trouble under a mountain of fat and under a “wacky” loud exterior. Rubbish people like this get away with being tolerated by a society that has lost its moral compass.

    You are right to identify this malaise as being central to what is wrong with our society. Obese is wrong – it is worse in women. If we were able to confront this – well, we would be living in a radically different society, now wouldn’t we?

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 8:15 am RappaccinisDaughter

      reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories

      WARNING: Massive time-suck ahead. It’s worse than the tvtropes wiki. You will probably be on there all day.

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      • on January 14, 2014 at 10:15 am Tim

        That’s my evening gone…

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  6. on January 9, 2014 at 11:30 am jack

    Because fat apologists are complicit in denying men an attractive and fit wife.

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  7. on January 9, 2014 at 11:31 am jack

    Chris-

    Fat woman’s disease = short man’s disease.

    Attempt to compensate when a person is not perceived as valuable by the normal standard.

    Hey! Let’s start a campaign to end short-shaming. At least those poor bastards can truly blame genetics.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 11:59 am Scray

      Lol no one claims that being a short male is a good thing tho.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm corvinus

      Fat woman’s disease = short man’s disease.

      Not quite.

      The male version of a fattie is a basement-dwelling loser with no ambition who refuses to go out and decides to live off his parents because he can.

      The female version of a shorty is a girl with plain features. In the same way a shorty has to be more masculine than a tall guy, a plain jane has extra pressure to dress sharply, stay thin, and maintain a pleasant attitude. (Think of Polish women. They’re mostly plain janes, but English-speaking men can’t get enough of them for that reason.)

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:31 pm Anon

        There’s no active shaming involved with being a plain looking girl who keeps herself looking and acting her best though (as far as I can tell anyway). As a shorter guy, I can tell you there definitely IS such a thing as short-dude-shaming.
        In most areas of attraction, I’m doing very well (work out, job with money, socially engaging/fun). But women (and men) will openly mock me for falling somewhere between 5’7″ and 5’8″.
        Hell, just today I saw two mutual friends (attractive 25 yr old girls) openly discussing on facebook why it was “hilarious” that short guys were constantly trying to talk to them. “I don’t want midget babies!!!!”
        We yell No Fat Chicks! And women scream No Short Guys!
        A Plain Jane who makes an effort is only akin to the Plane Joe who does the same. Nobody chastises them for doing well with their average looks.
        Being a shorter man, however, will draw a parallel amount of criticism from women that men often level against fatties. The only tangible difference being that dudes can’t grow any taller by hitting the gym 5 times a week and eating healthy.

        … and yes, a solid amount of game can overcome a disadvantage like being short, but the disadvantage itself is similar to the disadvantage of women with too much body fat – they are received in similar fashion by the opposite sex.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:38 pm corvinus

        One possible reason is that men are more likely to be made fun of than women in any case. A short man with game is therefore more likely to be made fun of than a plain jane.

        That said, though, plain girls definitely do get made fun of sometimes, usually by more attractive girls, and especially when they try to get with an attractive man or hang out with the attractive girls. Female bullying tends to be targeted at women who are significantly less (or more) attractive than the group.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:29 pm SC

        I told this to my friend who is even shorter than you, and I will tell it to you too. Shortness is relative. If you went to a Hispanic neighborhood suddenly you would be medium or tall. Girls will flock to you, no game necessary. Try it sometime.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 11:48 pm Nicole

        Plain girls are shamed a lot. I got called ugly, and then a bitch for not opening my legs to the guys who were calling me ugly, almost every day in high school. It was pretty brutal.

        I was extremely fit, and a martial artist, and the girls were afraid of me, so they’d get the boys to do their dirty work.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:13 pm Crazy Heart

        Women will always find something to shit test you over no matter what you look like. Remember that looks don’t matter much.

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      • on January 15, 2014 at 11:09 am Nicole

        Looks don’t matter unless you’re useless.

        If you behave sufficiently masculine, your looks are either a bonus, a sidenote, or in the case of what usually uglifies actual men who do men’s work, evidence of masculinity.

        If you are just a boy in a club looking for a one night stand, you’d better be as hot as you can. Being obviously a dildo and nothing more, you need to have the body to say that you’ll be a good time.

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      • on January 16, 2014 at 4:08 pm Trance Syndicate

        Good point.

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  8. on January 9, 2014 at 11:38 am Gro Haila

    Re: Heatmap

    A heatmap of population density of science Nobel Prize winners as function of the country of winners’ k-12 and college education would be interesting. My money is on Switzerland taking home the cheese.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:02 pm Matthew King

      Try it by race. Jews are 0.2% of world population and get 22% of the Nobels. (And whoever made that heat map misspelled “laureates.”)

      I belong to the Nietzschean school of philosemitism and wariness. Their record of survival and accomplishment is unimpeachable, and to deny it risks credibility where it counts, i.e., how much more dangerous and insidious such genius/industriousness enables them to be.

      “Let no more Jews come in! And shut the doors, especially towards the East (also towards Austria)!”—thus commands the instinct of a people whose nature is still feeble and uncertain, so that it could be easily wiped out, easily extinguished, by a stronger race.

      The Jews, however, are beyond all doubt the strongest, toughest, and purest race at present living in Europe, they know how to succeed even under the worst conditions (in fact better than under favorable ones), by means of virtues of some sort, which one would like nowadays to label as vices—owing above all to a resolute faith which does not need to be ashamed before “modern ideas”, they alter only, WHEN they do alter, in the same way that the Russian Empire makes its conquest—as an empire that has plenty of time and is not of yesterday—namely, according to the principle, “as slowly as possible”! …

      It is certain that the Jews, if they desired—or if they were driven to it, as the anti-Semites seem to wish—COULD now have the ascendancy, nay, literally the supremacy, over Europe, that they are NOT working and planning for that end is equally certain. Meanwhile, they rather wish and desire, even somewhat importunely, to be insorbed and absorbed by Europe, they long to be finally settled, authorized, and respected somewhere, and wish to put an end to the nomadic life, to the “wandering Jew”,—and one should certainly take account of this impulse and tendency, and MAKE ADVANCES to it (it possibly betokens a mitigation of the Jewish instincts) for which purpose it would perhaps be useful and fair to banish the anti-Semitic bawlers out of the country.

      One should make advances with all prudence, and with selection, pretty much as the English nobility do It stands to reason that the more powerful and strongly marked types of new Germanism could enter into relation with the Jews with the least hesitation, for instance, the nobleman officer from the Prussian border it would be interesting in many ways to see whether the genius for money and patience (and especially some intellect and intellectuality—sadly lacking in the place referred to) could not in addition be annexed and trained to the hereditary art of commanding and obeying—for both of which the country in question has now a classic reputation.

      But here it is expedient to break off my festal discourse and my sprightly Teutonomania ….

      — Nietzsche, JGB 251

      Matt

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:53 pm Gro Haila

        Re: Jewish laureatism

        My money is on gentiles doing the heavy lifting, then jew(s) swooping in for the finishing touch and conceptual merchandising/popularization (see E=mc^2). Although one got to hand it to the guy for the general relativity.

        Hence the factoid of Israel NOT turning into a Nobel Prize factory.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:02 pm The Spirit Within

        (facepalm)

        Can there be a single post on the site that doesn’t devolve in paranoid J conspiracy?

        Or should the site be rebranded?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:11 pm Gro Haila

        ?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:15 pm A Random Guy

        …

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm ho

        Only a knuckledragging imbecile would seriously deny that Jews are by far the strongest exponent of policies that we hate.

        People like you are probably the most feeble minded idiots on God’s earth: because at some point, somebody has branded clear eyed observation a “conspiracy”, your “mind” preemptively shuts down whenever somebody utters a negative thought about Jews.

        In other words, you are well deserving of the fate that many of your objects of worship suffered back in the 40s.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:25 pm Greg Eliot

        Paranoid? :confused:

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:36 pm Matthew King

        Solid postulate.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:30 am Arbiter

        E=mc^2 is a good example. Einstein did NOT come up with that.

        Also, letters found after Einstein’s death reveal that most of the mathematical calculations were actually done by a young mathematician working for Einstein.

        And why is Einstein held up as the greatest scientist, when he is not? Why isn’t Isaac Newton’s name praised that way? He practically invented physics. He developed and wrote down the laws for scientific research, on which all modern science rests.

        Isaac Asimov (nee Isaak Yudovich Ozimov), the sci-fi writer, gave a rare and telling comment about how he was considered an expert on robotics even though he just wrote fiction about robots. When he was alive, journalists would call him and ask him about any new development regarding robots.

        http://www.heretical.com/miscella/asimov.html

        The Three Laws, and the numerous stories I have written that have dealt with robots, have given many people – from enthusiastic teenage readers to sophisticated editors of learned magazines in the field – the idea that I am an expert on robots and computers. As a result, I am endlessly being asked questions about robotics.

        Meanwhile you have some guy slaving away on the actual development of robots, but his name is unknown.

        Read Bill Bryson’s A history of Nearly Everything. You only need to read the first chapters to see how often fame is misplaced. The guy who is a well-established professor at a prominent university gets credit for a discovery made by someone else years earlier. This was the case with the discovery that dinosaurs were not lizards, for example. And with the Periodic Table, which was first invented by a nearly crazy Russian scientist. But people weren’t interested. Then the Table was tweaked a bit and presented by a British scientist, who became famous for it.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:55 pm Scray

        Why isn’t Isaac Newton’s name praised that way?

        Ya……
        ….that Newton, completely unsung. wtf

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:58 pm Greg Eliot

        I understand the Jews win a lot of Academy Awards as well…

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:41 pm Matthew King

        Do you have a theory how they came to dominate academe, law, economics, medicine, and the physical sciences (chem, bio, physics)? Essentially all of STEM and more?

        Alternately, are the Nobels a hoax, and if so, how did you know who influence Stockholm so decisively?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:43 pm Greg Eliot

        Are you trolling now? Or playing the part of a good lawyer, and only asking questions to which you already know the answer?

        Obviously it’s a topic that requires more than a few sentences, but for the Cliff Notes, just look into the career and activities of one Franz Boas to see how “they came to dominate”.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:19 pm Matthew King

        Not trolling, I don’t have the answer, I don’t have a general theory of Jewish domination. The subject bores me to tears, but I am finding it difficult to proceed without at least some working knowledge, if you’d be so kind as to provide in capsule form.

        I don’t trust the others because they seem immoderate, oblivious, and allergic to Occam; such as when they blur the Elders of Zion with the staged moon landing, CIA invented AIDS and crack cocaine, and Sophia Stewart wrote The Matrix.

        One must understand the law of diminishing returns when dipping a toe into conspiracy theory. You need to be open-minded but not credulous, and frankly I just don’t trust their bullshit meters.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:48 pm Greg Eliot

        I’m not overly enthralled with the topic myself, because it’s (yet another) of those areas where you can search and dig and come up with all sorts of interesting things, but nobody really listens… and those that do, well… they see to it that you never work in this town again. 😉

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:00 pm Mr.C

        The brilliance of the Jews is their ability to be in positions of power and influence and yet portray themselves as victims at the same time.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:37 pm Greg Eliot

        Nobel Laureates?

        You mean literary giants such as Isaac Bashevis Singer and humanitarians such Menachem Begin?

        I understand they’re even trying to get one for Bob Dylan in Literature.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:46 pm Matthew King

        No, not them. It’s easy to speculate how they’d dominate the soft prizes in Literature and “Peace” (though even that achievement shouldn’t be instantly dismissed). I’m talking about the stuff that can’t be faked, e.g.:

        http://www.jinfo.org/Nobels_Chemistry.html

        What am I missing? I’m serious, I don’t know what else to think but give the devil his due. Gro Haila has a theory above.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:51 pm Greg Eliot

        His “theory” has been cited by many others, and often with specific instances and anecdotes… again, not a subject that can be dealt with in a few sentences.

        Granted, nobody is claiming that they’re not an intelligent and industrious folk.

        But in the sciences as well as the arts, it helps to have the help of a coterie of “friends”… and of course, good press.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm Greg Eliot

        If memory serves, Wilmot Robertson regaled his readers on this very subject, back in the day, in his seminal The Dispossessed Majority and the periodical Instauration.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:24 pm Matthew King

        I will look into them.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 4:00 am Gro Haila

        I found “Gimpl the Fool” quite a lovely anecdote. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

        In any case while a failed human, my laziness is bigger than my vainglory. So if someone can assist me with the commercialization of my work, I’m not that bothered by them not having done “their share” of the heavy lifting. Worked for my kulak ancestors in the lands of the Good Kaiser, works for me here in the cracker land.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:01 pm ho

        “I belong to the Nietzschean school of philosemitism and wariness.”

        You’re a foaming retard.

        You’re talking about a group that pissed off so many people that they were put into ovens. Are we supposed to be impressed that they failed to go extinct?

        As for Jews being smart: no shit. Next you will tell us that blacks are really fast.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:06 pm Matthew King

        I’ll keep company with the philosopher that formed the ethos you swim in, thanks. Rather than you, who thinks The Jewish Question can be resolved by foaming-retarded analogies between world-dominating accomplishment and track speed.

        This thread is for people who can actually bring heft to their pronouncements, some legitimate support. It’s not one more opportunity for a Know Nothing hack to vomit up the usual twice digested bromides.

        You’re talking about a group that pissed off so many people that they were put into ovens. Are we supposed to be impressed that they failed to go extinct?

        You answered your own stupid question. Something must explain their survival for millennia despite being targeted for extinction. Something other than your “no shit” logic of being able to run real fast.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:36 pm Greg Eliot

        May I remind you that Satan himself is targeted for extinction, but has done quite well in the interim due to his intelligence, shrewdness, a masterful array of faces light and dark, and slights of hand/tricks of deceit in all disciplines social and political… coupled with what can only be described as formidable tenacity…

        But that doesn’t mean that he’s to be admired for it.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 3:57 pm Matthew King

        I don’t admire roaches for their sublimity but for their survival instinct. It’s a real admiration, if dependent on its relative context.

        I.e., survival is the priority of the slave. Life above honor, fear before greatness, cowardice paramount.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:53 pm Mr.C

        ” When you’re talking with a Frenchman who is a Zionist Jew, and you start to say, well maybe there are problems coming from your side, maybe you might have made a few mistakes, it’s not always the fault of other people if no-one can stand you wherever you go… because that’s basically their general history, you see… for 2,500 years, every time they settled somewhere, after about fifty years or so, they get kicked. You’d think that’s strange! It’s as though everyone is wrong except them. And the guy will start shouting, yelling, going mad… you won’t be able to carry on with the conversation. Which, to sum it all up, tells you that there’s a psychopathology with Zionism Judaism, something that verges on mental illness…”

        – Alain Soral

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  9. on January 9, 2014 at 11:49 am PR

    fat acceptance = misery loves company

    don’t fall for it girls. you have the power to not be fat.

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  10. on January 9, 2014 at 12:03 pm FamilyMan

    I think I’ve just been called a “barely concealed concern troll” for my comment near the bottom of the last thread asking for a different topic. I like reading this blog for game and strategies, i.e. turn-ons related to female psychology and the battle of the sexes. I don’t come here to think about turn-offs and those who can’t get onto the battlefield — I wish them well and that’s about it.

    But CH chose to double down so I’ll seeya on the other side. He can’t keep posting thread topics about fat people forever — can he?

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:59 pm FamilyMan

      CH you win, I didn’t stay away.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:46 pm Grim

        Bro, your input here is generally good. Keep your head in the game.

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  11. on January 9, 2014 at 12:06 pm Scray

    All right…but why just focus on fat women tho. Fatness in general is bad. Declining T and declining sperm in the last 50 years. What else has happened in the last 50 years? Oh yeah, men being fat fucks.

    Rather than betas being alive longer to ‘compete…’ I’d just say being fat is fucking with masculinity — and femininity.

    Women saying that “you go grrl” “you’re beautiful” is bad.
    But men saying shit like “ya women don’t go for looks” is also bad…because there’s a huge behavioral component to being fat that gets overlooked.

    Most game concepts are easier to execute when you are fit. Just sayin’

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm Hugh G. Rection

      The difference is there is no movement for acceptance of unattractive traits in men. It’s a lot worse for a man to be shy, a nerd or whatever than to be fat. And a lot of writers in the manosphere, and I think that includes CH, tell men to eat right, exercise etc. nonetheless.

      Manosphere: Improve yourself to improve how others perceive you
      Femcuntosphere: Try to force others to change their perception of you without the effort.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:51 pm Scray

        Yeah, but ultimately it’s a shit test. Reacting to fat-acceptance just seems to legitimize it. When a flat-earther tells you about how the earth is flat, do you honestly feel the need to go point-by-point with him? No. You just laugh, walk away, and exclude him from any serious discourse on that subject. As a consequence, no one listens to flat earthers.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm Hugh G. Rection

        So why are you commenting then?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:58 pm Scray

        What, we can’t discuss meta-strategy for our collective goals any more?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:08 pm Hugh G. Rection

        I don’t think that’s what we’re doing.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:08 pm ho

        The only thing that was missing is you saying “That’s very beta.”

        Give it up, you’re like those status jockeying leftoids that invent new methods to bleed from the heart so they can look better than one another. (like that asian whore from #notyourasiansidekick who claimed she hates it to be referred to as model minority because it’s racist towards black people. not even kidding)

        So no, this is not a shit test. And even if it was, ignoring it wouldn’t be the way to pass it.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 11:20 pm Scray

        thanks for those hot tips, ho.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:19 pm Amy

      “Most game concepts are easier to execute when you are fit. Just sayin’”

      Everything is a lot easier to execute when you’re fit. Including sex. If you’re not comfortable with how you look naked, male or female, then what’s your sex life going to be like? Probably not great, and that’s sad. Not a good situation in a relationship.

      [CH: Scray needs to cut the crap with the constant deployment of strawmen. It’s reaching past the annoyance threshold.]

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:37 pm Crazy Heart

        You obviously don’t have huge tits like my girlfriends.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:47 pm Kate

        Did you join the Blue Man Group?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:49 pm Matthew King

        My money is on Avatar extra.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:43 pm Crazy Heart

        How horny are you.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:54 pm Scray

        What strawmen — legit question.

        [CH: The strawman that anyone here worth reading says general fitness isn’t a laudable SMV-boosting goal.]

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:52 pm A Random Guy

        Fair enough. On the other hand, I find that much less annoying than the constant stream of anonymous insults aimed at Amy and others. That doesn’t bug you?

        [CH: As any largely unmoderated blog owner will tell you, it’s not easy striking that twerk-strife balance between the thrill of a no-holds-barred lunchroom food fight and the flow of a thriving roundtable of relevant erudite exchange. Tis the cross yer ‘umble savior must bear.]

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:16 pm A Random Guy

        I see your point. If it was my blog, I would be more annoyed at the other class of posts, but it’s not 🙂

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:54 pm Matthew King

        [As any largely unmoderated blog owner will tell you, it’s not easy striking that twerk-strife balance between the thrill of a no-holds-barred lunchroom food fight and the flow of a thriving roundtable of relevant erudite exchange.]You can largely self-moderate with up-vote/down-votes that conceal the massively downvoted. You have a large enough loyal and consistent audience to do that, and it would probably even eliminate spam without a filter.

        WordPest seems very script-heavy and unwieldy, though. (It regularly crashes mobile devices.) You’d need a new platform. Which you should be thinking about given the crusader tendencies of middle-management insects.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 4:46 pm Mob Barley

        This is why Jews win. Your asking for us to turn into a Zuckerberg Facebook.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 2:31 pm Matthew King

        Facebook has no downvoting mechanism. Nor auto-hiding of comments (note: didn’t say auto-erasing).

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 6:56 pm Nomennovum

        Amy is a red pill girl. She can take it. Many guys here are just learning game, so they are a little spergy. They will get better as they learn, and they should be forgiven. As an interloper, this is something she should expect anyway. She gets things wrong now and then, and that’s to be expected, but if more girls were like her, this country wouldn’t be as fucked up as it is.

        Not that I think she should have the vote, or anything. We need to be realistic here.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:19 pm FuriousFerret

        “Amy is a red pill girl.”

        Is that we are calling slutty chicks these days.

        “She gets things wrong now and then, and that’s to be expected, but if more girls were like her, this country wouldn’t be as fucked up as it is.”

        Oh yeah. If only more women were highly attracted to felons and bad boys and proceeded to sleep with those men the country would be way better.

        No reason to canonize Amy. I think some guys have a faulty view that if more women could just realize that going after men above their pay grade or antisocial bad boys they would stop this behavior and go on to be a 1950s feminine housewife that will choose the good ole fashioned beta provider. It ain’t going to happen Mate. They already know these things and they choose the ill fated relationship with the alpha anyway. It’s that strong on bio-mechanical level. Combined with the free for all that feminism has instilled, the only answer is to alpha up. Don’t count women as a group to change anything unless they have to by legal or financial force. See Great Depression and flappers for an example.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:35 pm Nomennovum

        Random Guy, met sperg. Sperg meet Random Guy.

        Ferret, I didn’t realize spergs could take such copious notes, but thanks for alerting me to her slutty feminist ways. You say she like felons? You mean I have a chance???

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:10 pm bloxmosis

        “Amy is a red pill girl.”

        Is that we are calling slutty chicks these days.

        /thread quote of 2014, we can all go home now

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 6:42 am Amy

        “Random Guy, met sperg. Sperg meet Random Guy.”

        Lol. Exactly. He also likes to post under various other names or just Anonymous. It gets tedious fast, so I’ll give you the cribnotes of my allegedly slutty ways:

        I’m a mudshark (I had to look that one up)
        I work in a prison so I can have sex with felons (no and no)
        I like some Jamaican black guy named Jamal (or Nigel? I think it varies)

        If you were to ask him to point to any post that suggests any of that, he can’t. But I don’t think it matters to these “what color is the sky in your world” types. The virtual reality of the internet is all they have, because they can’t hack actual reality.

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      • on January 11, 2014 at 8:02 am Kate

        FuriousFerret is not a troll.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:06 am Hugh G. Rection

        White Knight alert!

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:02 am Nomennovum

        Spoken like a huge erection who can’t distinguish disgust for one person’s embarrassing behavior (and I *am* embarrassed for you) from endorsement of the object of that persons spergy actions. I was waiting for someone to deal white knight card from his 3 card deck. You win.

        You guys have learned some good lessons here at CH, but some of you cannot seem to be able to take them to the next level and learn how to modulate your actions based on the circumstances. One obvious thing to learn here is that women posters are not your gaming targets — nor are they mine. This is not a bar, nightclub, or even Match.com or POF. It’s kind of silly to watch some of you try to neg the girl commenters in your spergy ways and then accuse those who point out the silliness of it by insulting your betters. It’s so … beta.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 11:32 am chi-town

        A white knight is a quixotic idiot that always sides with women, even when their dimples and cavities are filled with dorsal nerve toxins. Women who embrace our world view are afforded an equal portion of civil protection.

        I don’t know the context well enough in this case, and if she has taken our road maps on a trip to hell so be it, but use “white night” with discretion.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:38 pm Crazy Heart

      Game is a lot easier with Confidence..So whatever gives you that/placebo effect….

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 12:52 pm FamilyMan

        Generally I agree. I’m short, I’m overweight (but not as much as my doctor), and I am doing OK gamewise — for which this blog is helpful. Putin has a bit of a belly too, and he’s an alpha’s alpha and doesn’t need any more chicks.

        Weight is more important for a woman, because men care more about it. This is not to say I shouldn’t lose some weight, but I am a man and I don’t need to eat like a woman.

        Life isn’t fair. But there it is.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 4:40 pm Scray

        Life isn’t fair. But there it is.

        Women care about behavior. Take you, but add 20 pounds of muscle and cut you down to 10-12% bodyfat. I guarantee you will — by your behavior alone — be far more attractive to the opposite sex. I’ll even go further and say that the jump you see in behavioral attractiveness will rival the aesthetic attractiveness a woman experiences.

        Putin has a bit of a belly too

        a) Putin has stratospheric presence, political power, and financial resources
        b) he’s 61
        c) if you look at the physique he has now (pretty good for a 61 year old man), you can tell that in his prime he was fit.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:05 pm Crazy Heart

        Men are more logical about these things.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:00 pm YaReally

        “Game is a lot easier with Confidence..So whatever gives you that/placebo effect….”

        This. If you think being fat is a positive attribute, so will women. They follow your frame because they ping off their environment to know how they should feel…that’s why social proof works. That’s why when you get a new shirt and feel awesome, you get more attention, then when that new shirt feeling wears off, the attention slows down and you go buy another shirt.

        If you’re fat, short, etc. they may snub you on online dating sites and shit where all they can judge you by is your photo, or when you stand around in the bar you’ll get less looks, but in an action interaction in person, face to face, if you fully believe that those attributes are boss, your frame will overcome theirs.

        The problem is most men don’t like themselves (for a ton of reasons, advertising/marketing being one of the top ones of course) and don’t feel like they deserve hot women. That’s why they’re better looking than I’ll ever look, but posting forever alone posts on the Misc after their workouts, or waiting till they make their first million before they start approaching.

        If you want a mind-fuck, keep working out until you look so ripped/hot that hot girls start rejecting you because your body makes them feel insecure about theirs, while at the same time you become more outcome dependent because you think the girls should all want to fuck you because of how good you look and you become frustrated when they don’t immediately like you lol it’s all completely arbitrary and silly.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:37 pm FuriousFerret

        “waiting till they make their first million before they start approaching.”

        CEO/10k day

        At least The Misc is a lot better than the vast majority of men in our society. Black Knighting is positive, White Knights are severely frowned upon, funny politically incorrect humor is seen as a good thing.

        Also it’s cool to see so many nationalities posting. You get a sense of other culture’s viewpoints and it’s one of the few places that you get a heavy masculine vibe and it doesn’t allow females to take over for the most part.

        There is reason that a sizable minority is drawn to The Misc even for people that don’t body build. It’s because it’s become a last bastion of ‘boys being allowed to be boys’ in a world where every damn place is being coopted by feminine ethos.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 5:54 pm YaReally

        “It’s because it’s become a last bastion of ‘boys being allowed to be boys’ in a world where every damn place is being coopted by feminine ethos.”

        I love the Misc for exactly that reason. It’s just pure “id”, even if a lot of them are misguided when it comes to game/attraction. I read it all the time lol

        But that doesn’t change that a lot of them are still trapped in social conditioning that prevents them from getting results with women.

        The nice thing about being a man is that like 90% of this shit is internal. You could take a virgin dude who’s ugly and if you could magically flip a mental switch in him to change all his beliefs to the proper ones, he could instantly be capable of picking up and banging hot girls. Like Tyler said back in the old days “put me in any one of your bodies and I’ll pick up”. A ton of pickup isn’t about learning new things, it’s about undoing all the damage a lifetime of social conditioning has done and rewiring shitty beliefs/habits.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:46 pm Scray

        lol the misc can be red pill. for example, they understand that all girls are ‘slootz.’

        they’ve failed to understand the great irony of Zyzz. Zyzz’s overconfident trolling about aesthetics was what was attractive, not the aesthetics.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:44 pm Jay in DC

        And… that nigga dead… so apparently, he wasn’t as alpha as he thought.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:04 pm bloxmosis

        or maybe it was all that cycling that jacked his T levels

        woulda been hella alpha to have a non-working set of gonads had his omega’s heart not closed up shop

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 7:35 pm immoralgables

        God so much fucking this man. If you’re short and not physically attractive, having the stones to approach direct via the day is going through the attraction stage and voila! You are in comfort bros. Fuck, the chick automatically assumes you got it going on because you got to when you feel entitled enough to come over and give her a slice of your personality.

        I just went on my first instadate via daygame with an HB8 today man and that comment you made earlier about banging the hired gun put me in the proper mindset to pull it off.

        I’ll probably give an FR in a more recent post to share with the readership.

        I remember back in August I number closed an HB8 Russian Blonde and you asked why I didn’t do the i-date. That fucking stick with me.

        Today was the day I was able to calibrate and pull it off.

        Quote from the i-date: “Yeah everyone was staring and watching you as you came over and started talking.”

        Ahhhhhh fuck yeeaaah

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:50 pm Scray

        ‘Today was the day I was able to calibrate and pull it off.

        Quote from the i-date’

        Holy shit, nice!

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 10:09 pm immoralgables

        Yo dope new vid from Tyler

        Right up YaReally’s alley

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:16 am YaReally

        All solid stuff in that vid. Especially the idea that “you will never win”. I think a lot of guys visualize that when they get their million dollars they’ll finally feel “good enough”, but they just haven’t hung around high-value guys who already have a million dollars and see how they don’t feel “good enough” until they have 50 million dollars, etc.

        The more people you go out and meet, the more you realize that everyone is insecure and feels incomplete no matter how good it looks like they have it. It’s very very rare to meet someone who feels complete and secure in themselves regardless of their external attributes.

        This is also why if you go to a private party with super high-value people, you’ll find that because everyone is rich there, everyone’s money becomes irrelevant and the people there judge eachother based on other attributes like who’s the most socially free or intelligent or has the most interesting frame/reality etc. Like if everyone in the world had a Ferrari, you couldn’t really impress anyone with your Ferrari…but when you’re a peasant who dreams of owning a Ferrari and only 10 people in the world can afford them, you think when you get one you’ll finally be able to impress people.

        And then you can take this even further, into hitting on 10s. Legit gorgeous 8+ girls are surrounded by tall good-looking guys with 6-pack abs and Ferraris and tons of money, and those guys are all shoving that stuff in the girl’s face trying to impress her. Because she’s surrounded by that, it becomes meaningless and she looks at other ways to judge the men she meets. So even if you have none of that shit, if you approach her with the same level of confidence as those guys, but you have a strong/interesting frame etc., you’ll be more attractive to her than them because they haven’t cultivated that stuff since they got caught up in the rat race.

        It’s fascinating, but super hard to wrap your head around and fully believe until you’ve seen it in action in the real world around you and been a part of it. Thus our stressing that guys go out and approach regularly…to experience this stuff first-hand.

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:03 pm Crazy Heart

        I love this guy.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:37 pm Scray

        Let me clarify:

        We all realize that the internals are what matter in game. Self-confident behavior is a marker of fitness.

        And ya, you can try to ex nihilo your way into the kind of earth-shattering confidence it takes to overturn social norms (like, a fat newbie just coming in to this has to COMPLETELY rewire his psychology to do this).

        I’m just saying that, if you start getting your shit together while simultaneously going out and gaming, it will make for a better experience. It’s symbiotic.

        There’s a video somewhere where Tyler talks about how the game itself encourages self-improvement. Getting fit is just one of those areas.

        The reason why you need to improve yourself and game at the same time is so you can avoid relying on externals. The value in building yourself is mostly in the act of building yourself up.

        You start thinking of yourself as a person of action. You start thinking of yourself as someone who gets what he wants and as someone who deserves the best.

        That was huge for me starting out and it made it easier for me to take chances and throw myself into shit. Plus, getting fit has a ton of health benefits beyond the psychological ones I mentioned — the T stuff, whatever aesthetic effect (ya, keep it contextual….as in, ‘cool will be a little easier in some sets and I’ll be able to screen for certain types of girls as well’), etc.

        Once you’re past newbie stage, I mean….your internals will probably be rock solid independent of that stuff. But starting out, I’d def recommend it

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 8:50 pm ImmoralGables

        Scray knows!

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:51 pm Jay in DC

        Agree with all of this. I was alpha from jumpstreet mainly because I won the genetic lottery (tall, v-shaped, dark haired white dude) so I already had a pretty easy path. But I saw the same effect on guys I use to run with too who weren’t quite as gifted.

        We’d go to the gym and just crush it that day. Go home, shower, and get some nice threads on. That very positive feeling from pushing up mad stacks at the gym plus the new clothes— I would describe it as an “aura”. And I think women are just more intuitive in this way. My still WAY more pudgy than me but he had the same feeling I did and he slayed pussy that had he been a lesser man would simply be out of his league.

        A good non cock-blocking wingman is also a seriously good asset. He knew I was going to take the alpha bitch and he was ok with that. So he still got to take another chick that would have normally been beyond him. It is simply a win-win on ever level.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 10:07 am YaReally

        “You start thinking of yourself as a person of action. You start thinking of yourself as someone who gets what he wants and as someone who deserves the best.”

        Agreed. The thing I like to stress in these discussions is simply that these other internal things that you build through working on improving yourself externally (getting in shape, earning money, updating your wardrobe, etc.) are what’s attractive, not the external thing itself.

        Some things are cheap quick fixes that wear off quickly…”dirty highs” like basing your worth in your new shirt. Till that effect wears off as you get used to the shirt, and now you feel like you’ve lost your mojo and advertising convinces you that shirt isn’t cool anymore and you need the next new shirt to feel attractive again.

        On the flip side some things are long fixes that can stick for life…like dedicating yourself to a goal like getting in shape and achieving that goal and building all the internal stuff like dedication, time management, pushing your limits, self-discipline, etc.

        I fully support guys working on the long fixes, but with the caveat that it should be while ALSO going out and approaching women, VS waiting until you achieve those goals to start.

        I don’t support chasing the short fixes because they expire and the crash will fuck you over, possibly even worse than when you started out. It’s like a poor person winning the lottery (external short fix)…they didn’t build up the internal skills (money management, discipline, etc.) that the entrepreneur who built a business slowly did, so they end up throwing all their lottery money away and ending up poor again.

        The problem with the guys at the Misc is that they look at the surface level and say “I wasn’t getting attention when I was 20% bodyfat, but I do at 18% bodyfat, so 18% bodyfat must be more attractive to women”, instead of looking at the internal level of what obtaining 18% bodyfat did for their mental state, view of themselves, confidence, etc.

        A lot of people get stuck in this thinking because social conditioning is designed to make you chase the newest product and never feel complete, so advertising etc. WANTS you to focus only on the external attributes. They don’t want you to look any deeper, because if people realized that they didn’t need the $75 t-shirt to get laid and instead they could get laid just as much in a $5 t-shirt, the world starts falling apart lol

        Women ping off their environment for how to feel, so marketing is aimed toward them…because they know a lot of guys don’t see any reason to own more than a few pairs of shoes, but they can convince women to drop $300 on a new pair every month till their closet is full and they’re still looking for the next “dirty high”.

        This idea is covered in Fight Club a lot…all the stuff about “working jobs we hate to buy shit we don’t need”, “a duvet is just a blanket”, “I say never be complete”, etc. is trying to get the mass audience to look at their IKEA lifestyle and think “how much of this is really relevant to my worth as a human being?”

        That all said, while improving yourself is good in the newbie stages, when you become advanced you should destroy yourself a little every now and then. Go out dressed like shit with your hair unkempt and do the same thing you always do approaching women. Gain a little weight for a few months and do the same thing you always do approaching women. Tell girls sincerely that you work at Wal-Mart and live with your parents. Tell girls you don’t have a car. etc. etc.

        Do that stuff while still approaching in the same way you’ve taught yourself to do, until you’re getting the same results you got when you had all that good shit going. That’s when you truly become free and internalize “you are enough”. Then you can go back to achieving those things again if you want them, except you’ll be doing it with a healthier intent (chasing 14% bodyfat as a personal challenge/goal, VS chasing it because you think it’ll get you more girls and that you aren’t “enough” at 18% bodyfat).

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:05 pm Crazy Heart

        Yes “get that shit together.”

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      • on January 13, 2014 at 5:18 pm Crazy Heart

        The “looks imperative” is definitely generational advice. Yesteryear’s advice was to “get a good job.”

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 10:09 pm bloxmosis

      straight up, survival is a metric that both sexes select for and pot-bellies don’t make the sale in times of plentiful calories

      also: plastics as endocrine disruptorz, selection for low T males given police state/cubicle culture, etc.

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  12. on January 9, 2014 at 12:46 pm Nomennovum

    Normally, I would mostly feel pity for a fat woman. However, because of feminist-inspired “fat acceptance” — which is nothing more than a fruitless attempt to change men’s nature in the face of rampant female obesity in order to feed the feminine imperative — I welcome fat-shaming as a reaction against oppressive feminism. A normal man will never truly accept female obesity in his private thoughts and actions. Society’s demand that we do so publicly is another great lie we are being required to parrot like mindless zombies… and it is disgusting.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm FamilyMan

      I think that, like most things of feminism, the pressure is greatest on women. I look at Kardashian’s butt the size of an aircraft carrier on the covers of supermarket tabloids, but I just shake my head in wonder. It doesn’t affect my opinions or preferences, never has.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:03 pm Amy

        But men think she’s hot. I don’t understand it either.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:00 pm Greg Eliot

        I don’t think men are watching those insipid shows or buying the tabloids at the market.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:07 pm corvinus

        +1. It’s not men keeping up with the Kardashians.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:03 pm Matthew King

        Nobody thinks that swarthy high-maintenance inkwell is “hot.”

        Her precocious tits were hot when she was 14, that’s about it.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:50 pm reakcionar

        All the guys I hang out with comment on women a lot, and it’s waitresses and college girls who it’s about most of the time. I honestly can’t remember one single conversation among my friends which included even mentioning non-pornstar female celebrities. However – more then a few times I found myself in a situation where women were shocked by my lack of knowledge about celebrities, and they refuse to accept that I am more interested in looking at an average busty waitress than a silicone creature from the TV screen.

        One of the reasons women watch those reality shows is getting the kick out of celebrity stupidity. “I may be alone, desperate and obnoxious but check out how stupid THIS famous chick is!” It’s a form of gladiatorial games of the 21. century, where blood and guts are replaced with public humiliation and mockery, and instead of a sword in the heart, the gladiator gets a million dollars.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:11 pm Matthew King

        Observant. Great gravatar pic too.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:05 pm Nomennovum

        Feminist pressure is NOT greatest on women. Feminism is centralized, state-sponsored feminine imperative on overdrive. The pressure is on men. The danger of fat acceptance is to men in the form of more fat women — women feeding (ha!) off productive men. Fat-acceptance is for the benefit of fat women to the quite obvious detriment of men. A secondary benefit to women is that fat women get to feel better about themselves. Where is the pressure on women?

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:13 pm FamilyMan

        The pressure on women is as readers and partakers in the big-as-beautiful PR movement. I don’t read the women’s magazines where it’s promoted.

        I’ve written earlier about the intense pressure feminism puts on women because of its desire for “blanket coverage.” Men would naturally prefer what we naturally prefer, but if we are presented only feisty jeans-wearing PC corpuscles that are carrying all the vaginas in our society, we’ll have to choose one of them.

        But men are opting out. Some are not marrying, some are finding the brave women who still have humanity and femininity (a few of whom have the nerve to post on this blog), some are looking overseas where our market value is quite high and we get treated 100 times better. The feminist police are unable to close any of those avenues though they try on all of them.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 1:44 pm Amy

        Feminism exerts plenty of pressure on women. I’m not minimizing the detrimental effect on men, but it hurts women, too, because it force-feeds us lies to act against our nature, which makes us unhappy (and then confused about why we’re unhappy). And it reviles us if we dare deviate from its principles. What do you think would happen if I went over to that fat-empowerment blog, or any feminist blog, and described myself as a single girl who generally likes herself but makes efforts every day to be attractive to men, which includes being slender and fit? How do you think I’d be received? I’d be shamed and pitied for hating myself so much that I need external validation from men to feel good. They’d tell me there’s something seriously wrong with me, I’m a victim of the patriarchy, I’m pathetic and stupid. That stuff can hurt. Men probably don’t understand how damaging it can be, because they care so much less about what their peers think.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 4:28 pm Charlie Dont Surf

        Keep you chin up.

        Illigitimi Non Carborundum

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 12:44 pm Greg Eliot

        That’s make-believe Latin… the true way to say it goes something like:

        Non licete nothi vos demolere.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 2:11 pm Nomennovum

        You’ve touched on the single benefit to men of fat acceptance: the benefit of fat white women to black males.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:56 pm Jay in DC

        You are overthinking this. She is built for ni66a dick. So she capitalizes on this to great effect. As a Euro male you see dat ass and think aircraft carrier. A black male sees that ass and thinks nirvana.

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  13. on January 9, 2014 at 2:08 pm Nomennovum

    Non bona est decepere Matrem Naturam.

    [/Channeling Matt King]

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 3:08 pm Matthew King

      [/summoned]

      Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:40 pm Greg Eliot

        True enough, but did you know that the entirety of Gaul is divided into three parts?

        Or, after a particularly raucous evening at the baths, Nero was wont to exclaim:

        “Ubi, O ubi est meus sububi?!!!”

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:14 pm Matthew King

        Evidently Mr. Eliot is an educated man. Now I really hate him.

        “Sububi.” Groaniest of your considerable stock of groaners. Take a bow.

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:19 pm Greg Eliot

        It was time to butcher another language. 😀

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  14. on January 9, 2014 at 2:16 pm Rick250

    Seems like the only ones left to shame the fatties are alpha males (and cruel competiive teenage girls). Because for alot of women now, shaming a beefy rhino hits too close to home. It is in direct conflict with one of their primary goals: Self-acceptance.

    When heffers are spending their money on tattoos instead of gym memberships its another example of how beta the male society has become..like Sweden. Cause theres always a guy who will fuck them/abide. Then they get fatter and lazier. And the low IQ ones like blacks doubly so.
    No woman below 29 should be fat.
    There is one major culprit tho. And thats the American diet proudly being exported to the world. Macdonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut,, Burger King, US chinese food, even Starbucks and white bread. Garbage in/ garbage out. Burger, fries, diet pop….fuck.i like it too.
    Consider this: one shot of vodka is 70 calories = 20 brisk walk on the treadmill; one bag of potato chips = 40 min. of swimming laps.

    One thing i am really amazed about is that there, over the last decade, has not been any fast food competitor that has opened up to deliver the same fast, affordable – tho slightly more $, hot, convenient food but food that is nutritious and tasty. People would still eat alot but the calories would not be empty and keep you full longer..plus it would be healthy.

    Possible reason: Because theres not einough profit in it, and most people are stupid and dont care until there is a crisis. Most people are sheep..most men are not alphas or close to being so.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:29 pm FamilyMan

      Agree on the cruel competitive teenage girls. But why would an alpha male want to behave like them?

      [CH: Why would teenage girls want to behave like an alpha male?]

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 9:20 pm Matthew King

        Teenage girl is the distaff equivalent of an alpha male, at or just before peak value.

        The reason an alpha should be above insecure pettiness is a function of experience — the sexes peak at considerably different ages and levels of social maturity. Better perspective/bigger fish to fry.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 2:40 pm Gro Haila

      ” has not been any fast food competitor that has opened up to deliver the same fast, affordable – tho slightly more $, hot, convenient food but food that is nutritious and tasty.”

      I think there are a number of reasonable choices more recently. Also if able to pony up a modicum of extra $, cheapo restaurant lunch may offer an even better choices…

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      • on January 9, 2014 at 3:13 pm Rick250

        Familyman: We dont want to behave like them. We just happen to share the same self interested goal for different reasons.

        One nice thing about the fast food chain formula is speed factor in our busy world. Fast, hot, drive-thru, no waiting, cheap, no tip, lots of parking, boom.
        Imagine one that has a salad bar, vietnamese soup with sring roll, etc. etc.all homemade..thats what i was getting at.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 3:05 am Hugh G. Rection

      Seems like the only ones left to shame the fatties are alpha males (and cruel competiive teenage girls).

      And the mirror.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 8:42 am The Burninator

        That would imply a sense of shame over one’s bad choices, which is a virtue that has been bred out of modern women.

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  15. on January 9, 2014 at 3:42 pm McGonzo

    It’s to save everyone from this fate:

    http://apelac3.edublogs.org/files/2012/03/The-Fat-Girl-297rfhc.pdf

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  16. on January 9, 2014 at 3:58 pm Chris

    That’s funny, I remember being taught in high school history that women in Sparta had no rights and were basically baby-making machines.

    The cycle continues.

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    • on January 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm Greg Eliot

      I was taught that some Athenian was taunting a Spartan because the latter’s nation was “ruled by women”… and the reply was (now made famous to the South Park generation due to 300):

      “They rule men because they’re the only creatures from which men spring forth”.

      Or something like that.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 3:26 am Hugh G. Rection

      Sparta was pretty much a communist society.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 9:44 am Master Beta

      Sparta was no feminist Utopia that’s for sure. But, Athens was probably the single biggest feminist nightmare there has ever been. So, compared to Athens, Spartan women had a pretty sweet deal. Athenian’s were very much of the opinion that women are generally inferior to men.

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  17. on January 9, 2014 at 5:31 pm ACG1

    Anti-smoking campaigns regularly take to shaming smokers, not just for being unhealthy but also for being disgusting (yellow teeth, bad breath, smelly clothes, etc). In a sane world, the American Heart Association would air PSAs in a similar vein about how gross and ugly fatties are.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 8:49 am Troubadour

      On one hand, I enjoy smoking, and just laugh at the PSAs. Fat people would probably do the same thing.

      On the other, look around man. Just look at what we have to choose from in the way of females in this day and age. I don’t get it. All human beings are attracted to female beauty, and women have the same standards as other human beings for appreciating female beauty. They KNOW that looks like shit when they see it on some other girl, and they KNOW that looks like shit when they see it on themselves in the mirror, and yet we have these stupid hamster voices screaming from the ramparts, FAT IS BEAUTIFUL! Bullshit. Nobody believes that for one instant.

      I think it would be fun to round all of them up, put them in stocks in the town square, and let everybody walking by force feed food into their fat faces until they puke everywhere. She stays in the stocks for 24 hours the first time she’s caught, then gets a six month pass to show some improvement. Each time she’s caught, she stays longer, and eventually she gets force fed to death, and the world is a prettier place.

      I had occasion to stand around for an hour talking to about a dozen guys about ex wives tonight. One happily married man, about 10 guys who hate their ex wives, and each and every one of the men told exactly the same story. She used to be slender and pretty, and she ended up over 200 pounds. He couldn’t take it anymore after 20 years, and got rid of her fat ass. (Guess which anniversary ol’ Troubadour celebrates in a few more days?)

      I bet $50 that one guy who is still happily married, his wife isn’t fat. I bet $100.

      One guy’s wife wanted to stay married, and keep her boyfriend!

      When the sexbots finally arrive in stores, Homo sapiens will be extinct not long after.

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  18. on January 9, 2014 at 11:37 pm Gil

    obstreperous: adj., “noisy and difficult to control”.

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  19. on January 10, 2014 at 12:36 am Arbiter

    It is good to keep sticking it to the blubberati. Though not that way. Their reasoning is based on the anti-scientific “logic” first developed by Marxism. That there should be no standards for human behavior. That those who ask for standards are evil. That everyone is equally good at everything. It is an ideological bribe to the followers. And it is a way to shame young Western men, make them think they are evil for their natural instincts, so they won’t oppose the Left’s agenda as it is rammed down their throats, turning them into silent, passive, shamed and depressed tax slaves.

    The Realist approach is instead that our instincts exist for a reason: evolution has shaped our instincts to help us survive. The instinct to dislike obesity serves a very real purpose, it aids survival. The world, based on immutable laws of physics, is a harsh place and it won’t let us play around.

    The civilization that thinks it is above nature is doomed to fail. It will be overrun by brutal peoples called “equals” who cannot even spell equality and don’t care.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 11:02 am Amy

      “And it is a way to shame young Western men, make them think they are evil for their natural instincts, so they won’t oppose the Left’s agenda as it is rammed down their throats, turning them into silent, passive, shamed and depressed tax slaves.”

      It turns women into depressed tax slaves too. We’re told we don’t need a man, so why bother attracting one, we can just be completely self-centered and individualistic, and work and support ourselves. Men are shamed into passivity, but women are lured into it…. by ridiculous lies that this “independence” is actually desirable and fulfilling.

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      • on January 10, 2014 at 5:13 pm Arbiter

        That’s also true. And women are also taught to stay away from men who complain about this state of affairs, as it is dangerous to be around them. The women could be punished too, when the men are.

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  20. on January 10, 2014 at 9:54 am Master Beta

    Being fat is one of the most obvious indicators of a privileged life. It shows you have very little physical work to do, and plenty of food.

    Women today are quite a lot fatter than men on average.
    This could be why the feminists defend their fatness so emotionally, because pointing out their fatness is pointing out an obvious contradiction in their whole ideology. And we all know how feminists react when you point out some evidence that seems to contradict their ideology: They play the victim, and shout and scream of patriarchy and misogyny.

    No oppressed person has ever been fat.

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  21. on January 10, 2014 at 11:56 am Ragnar

    All this misplaced “white knighting” of men and their inability find a hot woman or get laid by a hot women tells us all that the owner of this blog is probably a short, lumpy, ugly, troglodyte who could get laid in a cathouse even if he had a fist full of hundreds. Blaming fat girls for man’s relationship unhappiness is an excuse that only a beta boi loser would use.

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 1:54 pm Gro Haila

      the libtard chutzpah

      wow … just … wow

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    • on January 10, 2014 at 5:17 pm Arbiter

      Ah, a feminist troll.

      “‘white knighting’ of men”? That shows you’re an idiot who doesn’t know what white knighting means. You just use it because it is a word with weight in the manosphere, and you hope to siphon off that weight for the benefit of your own faulty reasoning. But since you use it in a completely erroneous way, you just expose your ignorance.

      You also show that you have no inkling of the scientific studies linked to in CH and elsewhere. Studies clearly show that an unattractive woman does a whole lot more to ruin happiness in a marriage than an unattractive man. While women of course want their men to also be attractive, men are far more visually focused for evolutionary reasons, and the sight of a woman who doesn’t take care of herself causes men a lot more unhappiness, thereby dragging down the marriage as a whole. So yes. It is perfectly all right to “blame fat girls for man’s relationship unhappiness”. What, is a man supposed to be happy for being married to an ugly fatty like you?

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    • on January 14, 2014 at 4:08 am Master Beta

      I suspect he is a “short, lumpy, ugly, troglodyte”. Or at lest he’s probably not very good looking. No “PUAs” are particularly good looking……. Because good looking people don’t need the help, and good looking people aren’t the normally the people looking for help attracting people. What’s your point?

      Let me put it this way, who would you take advice from on making money:
      a) A billionaire, who became rich by inheriting their father’s wealth.
      b) A fairly rich person, who was born in poverty and orphaned at a young age.

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