From the comments to a New York Beta Times article about the NSA’s ability to crack any privacy protection internet tools,
My mouth is agape. With names like “Bullrun” and “Manassas” for these programs, NSA is now (inadvertently) telling us they consider themselves to be battling a civil war… with the citizens of the United States.
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It’s almost like the United States has a secret “royal family”, to use the term loosely, and they are becoming more and more uneasy at the prospect of a peasant uprising.
It sure would explain this massive surveillance we now see before us. This can’t possibly be to fight terrorists as we know them to be. This seems to me to be something all the more sinister, something dangerous to everyone on Earth.
Some would call this the result of mass scale managerialism run amok. I’d use a less innocuous-sounding term: Tyranny.
The war on terrorism has been phony from the beginning. That was obvious to lots of people and it’s become obvious to more and more since then.
And yet there was no way to stop it. Fixed elections, outrageous Congressional shenanigans, this is no longer government by the people. It’s broken free of us.
Best thing I know to do is to throw sand in its gears and try to get control back.
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The War on Terror was legit under Bush.
Islamic terrorists were attracted to Iraq like moths to flame and we slaughtered them there. Worse for the terrorists, Sunni Muslims in Iraq sided with the Americans against the terrorists. Iraq pretty much turned into the terrorists’ nightmare scenario. Bush also had the Freedom Agenda in place which, if it had been applied in the Arab Spring, should have finished off the terrorists as a threat following on their decimation in Iraq. Terrorist organizations had been mostly broken down.
But Obama fumbled away Iraq and screwed up the Arab Spring. When Bush left office,the terrorists were on the verge of defeat with a plan in place to finish them off. Iraq was set as the cornerstone for regional reform. Instead, the terrorists have resurged because of Obama’s utterly incompetent foreign affairs.
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> “The War on Terror was legit under Bush.”
Bush 41 put the known sodomite, David Souter on the Supreme Court.
Bush 41 & “Rhymes with Rich” Babs just officiated at a bulldyke wedding ceremony up in Maine.
Bush 43 put the known sodomite, John Roberts, on the Supreme Court.
Bush 43’s daughter, Barbara Pierce Bush, probably caught the Jodi Foster disease at Yale [if she didn’t already have it before she even left for Yale], and has NEVER been romantically associated with a boy or a man.
Bush 43 just cut a big check to the Miss Lindsey Grahamnesty re-election campaign, and talked about how much he loved Miss Lindsey’s brand of Republicanism.
Bush 41’s granddaughter, Lauren [Barbara Pierce Bush’s 1st Cousin], just married into the Lifshitz branch of the Frankfurt School.
Prick Cheney’s daughter, Mary, caught the Jodi Foster disease herself, has been artificially inseminated to give birth to her children, and raises those children with her bulldyke partner.
Prick Cheney fully supports the NSA’s war on the Constitution.
[Not that we’ve even had a Constitution to make war on, ever since July 3rd/4th, 1863, after the fall of Vicksburg and the slaughter at Pickett’s Charge.]
These people – the Bushes and the Cheneys – are sick Sick SICK SICK motherfuckers.
They are NOT like you and me.
We are being tyrannized by the Frankfurt School and their Unitardian Sodomite Allies [and, whenever they can get a piece of the action themselves, by the Frankfurt School’s Jesuitical Velvet Mafia allies].
Do not kid yourself.
The Bushes and the Cheneys are very profound enemies of the Constitution and of Western Civilization.
They are very, very, very evil people.
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Oh yeah!
Best of the best:
“Bush 43 put the known sodomite, John Roberts, on the Supreme Court.”
And it goes beyond that. Not only a sodomite, but he likes them criminally young, as the NSA, FBI, and Lord H’ussein all know. Hence, his Osamacare vote.
It’s good to know someone else sees what’s going on in the former USA.
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Does being a sodomite make somebody less of a politician or a worse judge? Also, how does ACA enable pedophile homosexuals?
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You are a fucking crackpot. A broken cuckoo clock.
No fantasy too lurid, no rumor false. You give all truth tellers a bad name by association.
I am all for digging under the surface. I suspend my disbelief as a matter of course in the name of intellectual integrity. I don’t laugh at or automatically dismiss the paranoid, I listen to them.
But your revolutionary constituency has a population of one. Nothing is as it seems, no ally trustworthy, all “known” “facts” are actually the opposite.
The Chief Justice of the United States is a “known sodomite.” The Bushes are rife with secret lesbianism. Nunneries are secret sex dungeons. Your 84-year-old Jewish neighbor is running the world like Hyman Roth with his hiked-up trousers from a TV tray at the Broward County Shuffleboard Club.
The Cheneys are not just evil. Nor are they very evil. (Naif! SMH) “Very, very evil?” you might say? AHA, that’s just what they’d want you to say! They are no less than very, VERY, VERY evil. And don’t make me append a fourth, because I’m thiiiiiis close.
Now this is the internet, and the internet cultivates curious mold varieties like yours. But more importantly, you are a cautionary tale about the limits of young movements that must form at the margins. You blew it. Even for someone like me, who strives to take even the most incoherent drunkologues in good faith, who looks for a possible golden thread of truth under paragraphs of undermedicated babble — even I can’t make chicken salad out of your chicken shit.
See, there doesn’t have to be more crackpots than equanimous truthtellers before your obsessive presence starts poisoning the well for everybody, particularly the potential superstars who combine wisdom with courage to take us to the next level. Earnest, thoughtful people only have so much patience for broken-record frauds like you; far less patience than I. Look at me: I am taking the time to patiently explain your dysfunction to you.
For instance, CH will attract intelligent readers who may be misguided in correctable ways. They may have even voted Democratic once when they were young and dumb. They’ll look at the Citizen Enemy post and consider it judiciously. So far so good. Then they lift up the rock and see batshit reactions like yours soiling the undermatter and have to wonder why an otherwise intriguing post attracts people who mishandle Occam’s razor so thoroughly that they disfigure themselves monstrously (“bulldyke”! “prick”! “artificial inseminations”!) before bleeding to death. The kind who explain catching three red lights in a row as something to do with the “Frankfurt Unitardian Sodomites.”
You promote 1,000 conspiracies in the probable event that at least one will be true, and should a handful prove reliable, that justifies the other 990 as Too Real To Be Discussed In Polite Company But Must Be Shouted Nevertheless. And only a crackpot would look at that batting average and conclude it redounds to his credibility.
You see, we want to make common cause with marginalized figures because we ourselves are marginalized and the unvarnish truth is found here. Further, it’s not good to make more enemies when we already have so many. So we give you entirely more leeway than you deserve. We’ve provided enough rope and you’ve hanged yourself a hundred times over. You simply cannot help yourself, you bring enmity with you everywhere. Bitching and hissing and scratching at every imagined itch is inextricable from your personality, constitutive of your identity. Alliance is impossible.
A malcontented movement will always have trouble purging the truly poisonous individual curmudgeons from their ranks. We tolerate your malign existence out of basic sympathy because we are all theoretically purgeable given the right politically-correct criteria. But without a colonic designed to cleanse your more-destructive-than-constructive street ranting, the entire effort will remain as impotent as any one crackpot’s individual rage, disseminated in daily, cathartic ejaculations online.
Matt
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> “The Chief Justice of the United States is a “known sodomite.” The Bushes are rife with secret lesbianim.”
Increasingly I am coming to the conclusion that there has been an elite group of sodomites [very often child molesters], sufficently bisexual to have fathered children of their own [or who at least sucked it up, and took one for the team, and dropped their seed in their bearded wives, however distasteful it may have been to them to engage in intercourse with a human female], who have been existing in some sort of a parallel universe, alongside what we might call standard doctrinaire pediastrian Western society, with a wink wink and a knudge knudge and a knod knod amongst themselves, and who knew damned well of one-anothers’ existence, and how to remain in contact with one another, and how to interact with one another.
All that crap about the dudes in Skull & Bones paddling each other on their naked bottoms?
And about the dudes in Bohemian Grove running around naked and barking at the moon?
I’m starting to feel that there’s a whole lot more truth there than mere speculative slander.
And I just keep seeing stories like the following, which get swept under the rug by the Sodomite Media just as quickly as they arise:
Britain: ‘Pedophile Network at the Heart of Government’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3113589/posts
Slum Pleasures – The Social Church
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3068992/posts
‘Child prostitute’ connects Jerry Sandusky to Poly Prep sex abuse scandal and coach Phil Foglietta
“(Between) 1977-1980 I was a child prostitute associated with a tri-state (NYC-NJ-PA) pedophile ring. (During the) summer of 1979 I was brought to the State College area by Ed Savitz for the purpose of child prostitution with Jerry Sandusky at a Second Mile fundraiser…”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2934120/posts
Corey Feldman On Pedophilia In Hollywood
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2767436/posts
I could go on and on and on about this for hours, but I have crossed paths now with sufficiently many on-the-down-low elitists in my own personal life [like really serious elitists, at the very highest levels of society] – and I have seen sufficiently many hints of this in various historical tidbits which I have stumbled upon – for me now to cast aside any doubt in my mind as to whether there is indeed a corp group of bisexuals, whose roots are very old, very Dark, and previously very cloistered, living in parallel with traditional Western Civilization, and who feel that the nihilism of modernity has made it safe for them to begin to emerge and to start flexing their muscles and to reinvent the world in their own image.
There is not a doubt in my mind anymore whatsover.
And it’s at the heart of these Cheney [dykeish] Bush [dykeish & sodomite friendly] Grahamnesty [sodomite] McConnell [sodomite] power brokerages.
Just like it is with the Frank Marshall Davis [bisexual] Bill Ayers [bisexual] Rahm Emanuel [bisexual] Barry Soetoro Dunham [bisexual] Reggie Love [pure sodomite???] power brokerages on the other side of the aisle.
IT’s there, IT’s real, and IT senses that the time is ripe now for pouncing on Western Civilization and destroying it once and for all.
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I have translated your latest mind-blowing revelations and set them to music:
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Obviously you are free to stick your head in the sand, and pretend that night is day, and that day is night, but The Darkness is here, It’s queer, and It ain’t going shopping:
Secret gay society in Vatican poses security threat for Pope Francis: Ex-Swiss Guard
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3114083/posts
So either you can man up and confess to yourself what has become of your precious church of Simon-Peter, or else you can prepare for your precious church of Simon-Peter to bend you right over and sodomize your posterior so hard that your brains come squirting right out of your ears.
Or maybe I should say, “cum squirting right out of your ears”?
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> “some sort of a parallel universe, alongside what we might call standard doctrinaire pediastrian Western society”
Which I guess, in retrospect, we could now call, “standard doctrinaire PEDERASTIAN Western society”.
It’s there.
It was always there.
We just didn’t realize it.
We were too damned naïve, too gullible, too trusting in folks.
Too foolish to realize that it was right there in our very midst, staring us in the face the whole time.
The Abyss.
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I could sit here and do this all day.
Day after day after day – all day long – documenting how the Secret Society is strengthening its chokehold on Western Civilization:
Prosecutor: No crime in highway patrolman’s sexual encounter with pre-teen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3114522/posts
“Trooper Ricky Vitte Jr. acknowledged to his wife that he watched porn with the boy five years ago and both Vitte and the boy masturbated together, according to a report by O’Connell.
Vitte later told his wife he was attempting to teach the boy about sex, the report said…”
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This may be the most well-written and articulate comment in the history of CH. Tip o’ the hat to you, Matt.
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Nonagenarian Babs Bush still pining for the Alpha Cock after all these years:
Barbara Bush reveals close friendship: ‘I love Bill Clinton’
‘…Mrs. Bush seems to almost excuse some of Clinton’s more questionable behavior by stressing that his father “was not around.”
“I think that he thinks of George a little bit like the father he didn’t have,” she said. “And he’s very loving to him and I really appreciate that.”…’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3113746/posts
Jesuitical Superman Andrew Cuomo on what he really thinks of all that old-fashioned out-dated passe Christian loser horseshit:
Andrew Cuomo: Pro-Life People “Have No Place in the State of New York”
“Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3112960/posts
No tell me about how we are going to overthrow The Cathedral with Unitardian and Jesuitical “leadership” like that?
The Frankfurt School says, “Jump!”, and the Unitardian Sodomites and the Jesuitical Sodomites all scream in unison, “HOW HIGH, SIR?”
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You are a mirror image of the left. Opponents aren’t wrong, they are evil and the evil is always hidden. Nor are they really opponents so much as enemies, demons, “very, very, very … very profoundly … evil.”
They cannot be bargained with, they cannot be reasoned with, they cannot be persuaded. They are inveterate RACISSS HOMOPHOBE SEXISTS who must be shamed, scandalized, imprisoned, and destroyed, not converted. You don’t negotiate with rabid dogs, you put them down. In fact those who even seek to convert the incorrigibles are themselves suspicious if not ipso facto traitorous.
Just switch out the PC for politically incorrect matter.
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LOL After all THAT – this guy would have us believe he’d treat a “real woman” well –
Hell, I’m inclined to believe his love would be as warped and twisted as his various hates.
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I normally don’t advocate wasting time debating retards like zombie shane, but your response was top-quality writing. He won’t stop, of course. He’ll put on another tinfoil hat, impregnate his sister (again) and scream about how the illuminati/aliens/jewish bankers are living in his walls and trying to steal his teddy bear collection.
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Big words don’t impress everyone. He seems to want to build a common man army but speaks the language of the elites he intends to overthrow. It’s a modern day William Jennings Bryan curse. Mini spoiler he never won.
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But you are jew,right?
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You are becoming, after this post and the one explaining ‘The Cathedral’ to the layman not long ago, as quoted by ni66a lover Abe Lincoln “an angel of your higher nature”.
He was Secretariat on the first 2 races. Strong out of the gate, finger on the pulse, and even quoted by CH in a topic. But… winners of the triple crown are rare indeed. So he choked, as always, at the Belmont in spite of smashing it at the Kentucky Derby and Preakness.
I cannot add or subtract from your argument.
As an aside, I presume from your comments about me you realize this—
who strives to take even the most incoherent drunkologues in good faith
This is my Achilles Heel which rears itself now and then, I have my eyes on the prize and we have the same goal. I simply like to embrace my “flair for the dramatic” after alcohol poisoning… mea culpa.
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“explaining ‘The Cathedral’ to the layman”
Can someone post a link to this comment.
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Hey Jay, still wowing the ladies of DC in your nifty brown leather jacket?
Let us know how that’s working out for you.
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@Balzac–
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/01/03/the-leftoid-media-lie-machine/#comments Halfway down the page. Matthew King Jan 4 @ 10:08am
Landser— You been looking in my closet again? Did you smell my dirty boxers too? I left a nice ripe pair out for ya… Any other fashion tips for me?
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ZombieShane: YES.
Two little known historical facts:
a) Exactly ALL known tyrannies, fascist regimes, despoties, dictatorships, autocracies, coups-de-etat, wars, genocides and other mass-scale atrocities of all kinds have left the “Frankfurt school”, and them only, in possession of the resources despoiled from the murdered, repressed, suppressed, spied upon … people. More to the point: the one constant factor which unites all dictatorial regimes and atrocities perpetrated upon the peoples of the world has been that the one group which benefited most from these crimes were the jews, to the detriment of all other groups.
b) Besides psychopathy and other DSM axis-2 mental disturbances, the strongest qualifier towards being accepted into the “elite” is sexual deviancy – and this is self-referential as sexual deviancy correlates strongly with axis-2 diagnoses. Axis-2 and sexual deviancy correlate strongly with a want of productivity, that is, the individual in question being unable (or unwilling) to pay their own keep. “Elites”, the groups that represents the power behind the throne and are entitled far beyond their real contribution towards society.
The most visible sexual deviants are male homosexuals. They are strongly represented in diplomacy (the nazi diplomatic corps was not an aberration), a vastly overpaid “profession”. They are also strongly represented in the armed corps and visible as thugs and torturers due to their often repressed sexual inclinations, and in the judiciary as hysteric judges handing down sadistic sentences for victimless “crimes”.
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Your stupidity is overpowering.
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Strong breakdown and counterpoints Anonymous. Feigned shock without any attempt at rebuttal? Do you always mimic the behaviour of faggots and chicks?
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It makes no sense that people with no other reason to live other than anger still exist.
It’s for disturbed people.
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There are more conflicts in the Middle East now that when Bush was President.
Terrorists groups have more power now than when Bush was President.
Either Obama is very incompetent.
Or everything is going according to plan ( Obama could be rooting for the terrorists, it is not impossible ).
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You probably already know this, but investigate the connection between the CIA and al Qaeda. Osama bin Ladin (pre-9/11 spelling) was at a US base for medical treatment not long before 9/11. It makes one’s head spin.
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From a National Geographic interview with David Schanzer, Director of the Triangle Center of Terrorism and Homeland Security at Duke University’s Sanford School of Public Policy:
Q: In the months after the 9/11 attacks, there was a general expectation-and dread-that 9/11 was just the first of many terrorist attacks inside the United States. Yet the total number of attacks since then is relatively few. Why is that, do you think?
A: The counterterrorism strategy against al Qaeda that has been executed since 9/11 has been extremely effective. We eliminated the safe haven that al Qaeda enjoyed in Afghanistan and captured or killed hundreds of senior leaders and thousands of rank and file militants. It is also important that governments in countries like Saudi Arabia and Yemen, who were on the sidelines prior to 9/11, joined the fight because they felt threatened by al Qaeda as well. We have also tightened our visa issuance process and border security (at a great cost to our international image and economy) so that it is much harder to enter the United States, especially from certain countries. . . . we have crippled the organization that attacked us on 9/11 to the benefit of the United States and the world.
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Here, Schanzer described the pathway set by Bush and handed off to Obama to win the War on Terror. Obama only needed to stay the course like Eisenhower stayed the course he inherited from FDR and Truman. Instead, whether due to sheer incompetence or bad intentions, Obama sabotaged the winning strategy he inherited from Bush.
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I remember when Bush 2 announced the “war on terrorism.” I was in my car driving somewhere in the evening and heard it on the car radio. One of those moments I’ll remember, because I wasn’t yet used to our President saying things so ridiculous. Malapropisms! You can’t have a war on “terrorism”, it’s an idea not a country.
But I wondered if that was really going to stick. If something so ridiculous could stick, all bets were off and we were in for a crazy time. And it stuck, and we were. “Mission accomplished”!
All the robots who snapped into line, including all the approved candidates for President, are reading from basically the same playbook. Obama withdrew somewhat from Iraq (can’t say I know exactly what’s going on there, but supposedly it’s more like contractors, but we still have like the world’s largest building as our “embassy” in the green zone in Baghdad) but he moved those troops to Afghanistan — just as he said he would do. From one bad war to another, I can’t get too excited about it. They’re all aliens.
lol — laughing is better than crying. I won’t let their evil ruin my mental health.
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Terrorism is one method, a vehicle, to reify an idea in the Marxist sense. As such, in the War on Terror, combating the totalitarian Islamist idea within the terrorism vehicle is part of combating the realization of that idea.
Bush didn’t speak a malapropism. “War” is essentially a high-end, zero-sum competition. Your understanding lacked sufficient breadth. A competition between nations’ militaries is only one definition of the word, albeit the common one. A ‘clash of civilizations’, one hegemonic, one usurping, can also be a war.
Bush understood what was needed to win the War on Terror on our terms as leader of the free world.
President Bush, 2001:
“Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. . . . But the only way to defeat terrorism as a threat to our way of life is to stop it, eliminate it, and destroy it where it grows. . . . This is not, however, just America’s fight. And what is at stake is not just America’s freedom. This is the world’s fight. This is civilization’s fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom. . . . As long as the United States of America is determined and strong, this will not be an age of terror; this will be an age of liberty, here and across the world.”
To win the War on Terror, we need a reifying vehicle, too, in order to neutralize the terrorists’ reifying vehicle. Our vehicle for fundamental change while Bush was president was deep liberal reform through the nation-state system.
President Bush, 2004:
“For decades, free nations tolerated oppression in the Middle East for the sake of stability. In practice, this approach brought little stability, and much oppression. So I have changed this policy. In the short-term, we will work with every government in the Middle East dedicated to destroying the terrorist networks. In the longer-term, we will expect a higher standard of reform and democracy from our friends in the region. Democracy and reform will make those nations stronger and more stable, and make the world more secure by undermining terrorism at it source. Democratic institutions in the Middle East will not grow overnight; in America, they grew over generations. Yet the nations of the Middle East will find, as we have found, the only path to true progress is the path of freedom and justice and democracy.”
Bush set us up to win the War on Terror, but Obama screwed it up with predictable consequences. What’s our vehicle for fundamental change since Obama failed to sufficiently support liberal reform in the Iraq cornerstone and the decisive point of the Arab Spring? Resurgent terrorists in the gaps caused by Obama and giving away decades of American leadership to the Russians, I guess.
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> “I remember when Bush 2 announced the “war on terrorism.” I was in my car driving somewhere in the evening and heard it on the car radio.”
Do you remember the debate with Al “ManBearPig” Gore, in the autumn of 2000, when Bush 2 [“43”] declared that he would never but never but never get involved in “nation building”?
“Started off as a humanitarian mission and it changed into a nation-building mission, and that’s where the mission went wrong. The mission was changed. And as a result, our nation paid a price. And so I don’t think our troops ought to be used for what’s called nation-building. I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war. I think our troops ought to be used to help overthrow the dictator when it’s in our best interests. But in this case it was a nation-building exercise, and same with Haiti. I wouldn’t have supported either.”
http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=october-11-2000-debate-transcript
He lied through his teeth to us then, just like his Daddy [Bush 1, “41”] lied through his teeth to us about “Read my lips, no new taxes.”
If we’ve learned anything about the Bush family, it’s that NOTHING they say can be trusted.
NOTHING.
They will say anything to get elected.
And then they will turn on a dime and stab us in the back at the drop of a hat.
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Indeed, 9/11 converted Bush into a liberal. For the better.
Winning a war then throwing away the post-war without proper nation-building is the same as losing the war.
A limited humanitarian aid mission that turns into nation-building, which is what Bush talks about in your quote, is different in kind than following up a war victory by constructing the peace that is friendly to you and fundamentally incompatible with your enemies.
imagine winning WW2 then tossing the keys to Europe back to the Nazis, and never mind the Soviets, and Asia back to Hirohito.
War isn’t a sport where the game ends at the horn. Winning the long-term peace after the war is part of winning the war. In fact, achieving the dominance to build the long-term peace on your terms and denying that power to your enemies is the point of winning a war.
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There’s been a War on Drugs since last century and they haven’t even shut down the Drugstores yet.
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Legit but wrong enemies (and could have been declared and won in 1956 (Lavon Affair) or 1967 (attack on the USS Liberty).
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I was on a much needed vacation for a week to get the flying fuck out of this “global warming” scenario that brought sub-zero temps to DC. But I’m back to this—
“The War on Terror was legit under Bush.
Islamic terrorists were attracted to Iraq like moths to flame and we slaughtered them there. Worse for the terrorists, Sunni Muslims in Iraq sided with the Americans against the terrorists.”
Cart… horse. As others have pointed out and I simply don’t have the time or inclination to pile on about, you are basically, a fucking retard. There is no shame in it. Just own it, and carry on… we all have crosses to bear.
And, genius, what -exactly- drew jihadists to Iraq in numbers they’d never amassed there before. Ability to engage US troops who were in the wrong place, with bad intelligence, at the wrong time? Perish the thought….
Done with you, moving down the comments section to bust off on other idiots. You can find a towel at the top of the page maybe…
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The War on Terror was bullshit under Bush as well.
Iraq was a disaster, over a million people died for nothing and the US will have spent $4,000,000,000,000-6,000,000,000,000 on that invasion. The Arabs who fought the US in Iraq saw themselves as defenders of Muslims, much the same way Bin Laden saw himself fighting the Soviets in 1980.
The 3 reasons Bin Laden was against the American government were:
1. Bases in Saudi Arabia (their holy land blah blah)
2. Support of Israel and their attacks on Palestinians
3. Embargo against Iraq which killed 500,000 kids.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-a-close-encounter-with-the-man-who-shook-the-world-2278035.html
You should read this article, and if you want to learn more, read Fisk’s book The Great War for Civilisation. He’s been a Mideast reporter for 30 years, speaks Arabic fluently, lives in Beirut, and has no “side.” He despises murder no matter who commits it.
Obama is horseshit and garbage and incompetent, but the solution isn’t more slaughter. The solution is to just GTFO. Violence begets violence.
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“Iraq was a disaster”
False. Operation Iraqi Freedom resolved a festering problem and post-Saddam Iraq was set to be the cornerstone for a new Middle East before Obama threw it all away. To illustrate both points, here’s a before-and-after snapshot of the Saddam problem:
President Clinton, 1998:
“The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world. The best way to end that threat once and for all is with the new Iraqi government, a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people.
. . .
Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors; he will make war on his own people. And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.”
President Obama, 2011:
“Indeed, one of the broader lessons to be drawn from this period is that sectarian divides need not lead to conflict. In Iraq, we see the promise of a multiethnic, multisectarian democracy. The Iraqi people have rejected the perils of political violence in favor of a democratic process, even as they’ve taken full responsibility for their own security. Of course, like all new democracies, they will face setbacks. But Iraq is poised to play a key role in the region if it continues its peaceful progress. And as they do, we will be proud to stand with them as a steadfast partner.”
President Clinton set the standard to resolve the Saddam problem at Iraq in compliance with the Gulf War ceasefire and UNSC resolutions, Iraq at peace with its neighbors and the international community, and Iraq internally reformed with regime change. That standard was fulfilled under President Bush.
Saddam could and should have avoided regime change simply by complying with the mandated requirements of the cease fire and resolutions, which he should have done in 1991, let alone 2002-2003. He was given every opportunity, and then some, to come clean. But Saddam refused to comply from beginning to end. As warned, 2002-2003 was his last chance to come clean. Saddam triggered Operation Iraqi Freedom.
As Obama recognized, America’s victory in Iraq under Bush should have given us the difference-making cornerstone for regional reform and thus the path to victory in the War on Terror. But Obama threw away the hard-earned winning hand in Iraq he inherited from Bush.
“The Arabs who fought the US in Iraq saw themselves as defenders of Muslims”
Actually, Islamic terrorists view themselves as the totalitarian masters of Muslims and eventually the world. To achieve their end, the terrorists are the greatest killers of Muslims they consider apostates. Terrorists are responsible for the costs, suffering, and deaths in post-Saddam Iraq.
“Defenders of Muslims”? The opposite is true. Terrorists eagerly mass murdered and tortured the Muslims in Iraq you say they saw themselves defending.
Iraqi Muslims rejected those “defenders” and fought side by side with the Americans against the terrorists. The cost of the post-war in Iraq was driven high because Americans honored our commitment to build the peace in post-Saddam Iraq as we honored similar commitments in Asia and Europe as leader of the free world after World War 2, while fighting off a horrific terrorist invasion.
Actually, America has been the real defender of Muslims. With the Bush Freedom Agenda, our victory in Iraq opened the path to victory in the War on Terror. Obama. But Obama threw it all away.
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Bin Laden didn’t blow up bldg 7 or make the combat-ready pilots at Andrews sit around with their thumbs up their asses whilst terrorists had already hit two buildings and a third plane was in the air and on its way to the Pentagon never even intercepted, much less shot down. They never had any evidence to pin 11.09.01 attacks on him and never indicted him for them. We don’t get any timestamped videos of the the raghead hijackers contiguous with the passengers boarding the planes.
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Loose change, the movie
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/loose-change-final-cut/
Zeitgeist, the movie
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
But there’s too many deaf ears out there.
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The embargo against Iraq that killed 500,000 kids is a myth that has been debunked many years ago.
Very few kids were dying and none were because of the embargo, they were dying because Saddam kept the money for himself.
Saddam used the money to build himself most of his 50 palaces and to buy weapons. Before the embargo he only had about 3 or 4 palaces.
I have all the links and articles saved but since that was a long time ago they are in my old computer and I am not going to spend hours proving what I know is true.
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It was typically ham-fisted propaganda by Saddam. Unfortunately, it worked because it was boosted by folks who couldn’t care less about Iraq but supported anti-American propaganda from anyone. Then Secretary Albright validated and exacerbated it with her flip reaction: “I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it.”
michaelaurelius helps to highlight, though, that our status quo with Iraq was already untenable by the close of the Clinton administration, before 9/11.
Saddam had shifted the pressure of the sanctions meant for his regime onto the Iraqi people and blamed the harm on America. Our ‘containment’ of Iraq was invasive, unstable, indefinite with no foreseeable resolution, and costly. In fact, al Qaeda cited to our 1990s status quo with Iraq as their main cause of war with the US.
The best way out of the Saddam problem was for Saddam to comply completely with the ceasefire and resolutions, which included humanitarian, governance, and terrorism based requirements as well as weapons requirements – in effect, for Iraq to undergo regime change with Saddam still in power. Unfortunately, Saddam refused to comply to the end.
Even if Saddam had complied with the weapons requirements – which he did not – he remained non-compliant on the other requirements, which were equal triggers of the regime change.
Short of Saddam’s compliance, our choices wiith Iraq were to keep kicking the can on the indefinite, no-resolution, harmful status quo. Or unilaterally remove the enforcement and free the noncompliant Saddam. Or resolve the Saddam problem by giving him a final chance to comply under credible threat of regime change.
If michaelaurelius believes the pre-OIF status quo was unacceptable, then he either supports freeing a noncompliant Saddam, or he supports resolving the Saddam problem by giving Saddam a final chance to comply under credible threat of regime change.
Based on his comment, it seems michaelaurelius supports freeing a noncompliant Saddam.
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I support the non-aggression principle, that the initiation of force is never valid, and always counterproductive.
The non-aggression principle should guide the US’ foreign policy as it should guide every individual.
But on a practical level, it makes no sense for the US to get remotely involved in the Middle East. All of the countries are completely artificial. they wouldn’t exist unless formed by fiat after WW1.
As Doug Casey said, “These people have been fighting each other for 5000 years. What makes you think they’re going to stop?”
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michaelaurelius
I support the non-aggression principle, that the initiation of force is never valid, and always counterproductive
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Thats pretty good, but I support the “white man speak with forked tongue” principle.
That means the initiation of VIOLENCE is never valid, and always counterproductive; except when white men do it, then we substitute the word FORCE for VIOLENCE, and watch ni66ers scratch they heads with a confused look on they faces.
Works everytime.
White power!
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michael aurelius: “But on a practical level, it makes no sense for the US to get remotely involved in the Middle East.”
Well, we passed through that gate a long time ago and we haven’t invented time travel yet. Bush inherited the Saddam problem and our relationships in the Middle East. The situation and choices Bush was forced to reevaluate due to 9/11 were what they were.
Bush inherited the 3 choices with Saddam. Again, what was the situation with Saddam that Bush inherited?
President Clinton, 1998:
“Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors; he will make war on his own people. And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.”
Former President Clinton, 2004:
“That’s why I supported the Iraq thing. There was a lot of stuff unaccounted for,” Clinton said in reference to Iraq and the fact that U.N. weapons inspectors left the country in 1998. “So I thought the president had an absolute responsibility to go to the U.N. and say, ‘Look, guys, after 9/11, you have got to demand that Saddam Hussein lets us finish the inspection process.’ You couldn’t responsibly ignore [the possibility that] a tyrant had these stocks,” Clinton said.”
In 1998, before 9/11, Saddam’s failure to account for Iraq’s proscribed weapons already triggered Operation Desert Fox, which was the penultimate enforcement step to ground invasion. In 1998, Clinton already determined Saddam had failed his last chance.
Faced with the 3 choices in that context after 9/11, Bush chose to resolve the Saddam problem by giving Saddam a second final chance to comply under credible threat of regime change. Unfortunately in 2002-2003, Saddam failed to account for Iraq’s proscribed weapons again, along with his failure to comply with the non-weapons requirements, thus triggering Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Faced with the same choices in the same context under the same circumstances, you as President would choose to free a noncompliant Saddam … Okay.
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I must say I never gave a shit about all those countries, dictators, phony dictators, etc. over there. It’s only marginally a “US interest” and at that it’s not clear which side I wanted to win.
They kept telling me I was supposed to care and I never did.
And I’ve always driven a V-8 car (now two, one for the wife). My gasoline price is not an adequate reason to go fucking around in other people’s countries.
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FamilyMan: “It’s only marginally a “US interest” … They kept telling me I was supposed to care and I never did. … My gasoline price is not an adequate reason to go fucking around in other people’s countries.”
The same can be said for our ‘entangling alliances’ in Asia, Europe, and Africa, basically wherever we’ve intervened outside of our hemisphere. I use the Korea mission as a reference point for the Iraq mission, and Korea doesn’t even pump petroleum into the global economy. In fact, Korea didn’t provide us anything when we warred for control over what then amounted to an unknown backwater with Japan, north Korea, and China, consecutively.
Again, we passed through that gate a long time ago.
It’s what we got for picking sides in WW2, winning, becoming a dominant player, and sticking around to manage the aftermath in competition with the other dominant players. We’ve been the hegemonic leader of the free world for decades. Not that we weren’t already “fucking around in other people’s countries” as a relatively minor player before WW2, and WW1 for that matter.
Lying Democrats would have Americans believe that we took down Saddam in 2003 only because Bush [fill in conspiracy]. In fact, every US president starting at least with Jimmy Carter built up to the Iraq mission in a major way. Bush’s final case against Saddam was really Clinton’s case against Saddam.
Bush Sr should have taken down Saddam in 1991, but he at least had the excuse of first trying the other-than-war alternatives to resolve the Saddam problem. By 1998, all the alternatives had failed. Clinton had no excuse when he declared Saddam had failed his last chance, set up the full case for regime change in Iraq with laws, policies, and precedents … and then Clinton kicked the can on the Saddam problem without resolving it.
Bush deserves credit for resolving the Saddam problem on his watch instead of kicking the can to the next President. But in all likelihood, considering Bush’s foreign policy before 9/11, if not for 9/11, Bush would have kicked the can on the Saddam problem, too.
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Islamic terrorists were attracted to Iraq like moths to flame and we slaughtered them there.
Wow, what an ignorant neocon lover. Saddam Hussein was anti-Islamist. He was an enemy to al-Qaida. He wanted nothing more than to continue to be America’s ally. He had invaded Iran with American funding, when the people in that nation overthrew the CIA-installed shah. (See “Operation Ajax”) He executed Islamist leaders. The only al-Qaida presence in Iraq was in Kurdish territory, the Kurds being enemies to President Hussein – and supported by the U.S.
In President Hussein’s Iraq the Christians operated their liquor stores in Baghdad and Western-style rock concerts were held just outside the city. His foreign minister was Tariq Aziz, a Catholic.
But the Israeli lobby targeted Saddam Hussein. Why? Because he had given money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Those families, who usually know nothing about what their sons are planning to do until it is done, are thrown out of their homes without a trial, and their homes are bulldozered by the Israelis, so that they lose everything they own. If they live in an apartment building the entire buildi(ng is destroyed, dozens of families losing their possessions. This is collective punishment banned by international law, but Israel doesn’t care. The captured U.S. makes sure that the U.S. veto in the UN Security Council is used to stop any consequences for Israel’s blatant crimes. That has been the veto’s main use since the Cold War,)
President Hussein helped those families, so the Israeli lobby wanted him gone. The Zionist Paul Wolfowitz organized the support for an invasion on Capitol Hill. And naturally sectarian violence followed when they replaced one religious sect with another in Iraq.
American involvement on behalf of the Israeli lobby has caused most of the violence in the Middle East. The U.S. has installed and propped up thieving tyrants on condition that they make peace with Israel. This is the case in Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Yemen and Iran before the revolution. Democrats in e.g. Algeria and Iran were overthrown by CIA-sponsored coups. The U.S. constantly allies with socialist parties against the people: the ruling parties in Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt, all propped up by the U.S., are/were members of the Socialist International. But the only criterion for supporting them is that they don’t oppose the Israeli theft of the last 22 percent of Palestinian land.
The Israeli lobby is criminal.
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Thanks for posting. I hope “pizzaman” can see the error in his ways, but for some reason I doubt it…
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America’s support of Israel was the biggest motivating factor behind Osama bin Laden’s crusade against the US. He has stated as much in his amateurish looking tapes. The support that the US gave Osama, when it was convenient, is not a surprise today given that the shroud of American magnanimity has fallen by the wayside. The frightening reality of the “War on Terror” strategy, soon revealed as nothing more than officially sanctioned murder, torture, and surveillance, pretty much shattered the worldview that Americans harbored since the first World War.
There is no doubt that American intervention in the Middle East has destabilized the region, and the outcome of those developments is rather impossible to predict. The one thing that can be surmised with some confidence is that there will be no Kumbaya singing anytime soon. Sectarian violence is likely to flourish now that traditional seats of power (Saddam, Gaddafi, Mubarak), abusive as they were, have been dethroned.
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Actually, bin Laden’s main motivation for his war against the US was the 1990s US intervention in Iraq, not the US relationship with Israel.
See http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm .
The US didn’t support Osama bin Laden and his Arab cohort in Afghanistan. The US supported the Afghan resistance against the Soviets. Granted, bin Laden also supported the Afghan resistance against the Soviets. But to say the US supported bin Laden is a false conflation beyond a shared interest by two separate foreign parties involved for different reasons in a local cause. Keep in mind that the Northern Alliance that allied with the US was part of the Afghan resistance against the Soviets, and the NA were enemies with the Taliban that hosted al Qaeda.
As far as sectarian violence, I agree that the collapse of the Arab Spring has opened the door for terrorists to resurge, but that’s Obama’s fault. The proper US response to the Arab Spring was the Bush Freedom Agenda. Instead, Obama moved haphazardly to weaken dictators with insufficient intervention to build the peace in the aftermath.
Obama’s poor decisions are in direct contrast to the US’s commitment to peace-building in post-Saddam Iraq.
As Obama said about Iraq, “Indeed, one of the broader lessons to be drawn from this period is that sectarian divides need not lead to conflict. In Iraq, we see the promise of a multiethnic, multisectarian democracy. The Iraqi people have rejected the perils of political violence in favor of a democratic process … Iraq is poised to play a key role in the region if it continues its peaceful progress.”.
Bush got it right in Iraq. A pluralistic liberalized Iraq should have been the cornerstone of a reforming Middle East with proper US intervention in the region. But because Obama changed course from Bush’s strategy, the terrorists have taken advantage of the gaps in US intervention.
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From your own source:
“Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million…”
“Third, if the Americans’ aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews’ petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there.”
Two out of the three stated “facts” refer to Israel so it is quite clear where the bulk of the animosity stems from. Of course it is not the only reason as both of the needless Gulf Wars contributed to escalating violence, but it is definitely the main culprit.
“The proper US response to the Arab Spring was the Bush Freedom Agenda. Instead, Obama moved haphazardly to weaken dictators with insufficient intervention to build the peace in the aftermath.”
The proper course of action was not getting involved in an absolute mess that had nothing to do with US interests. America gets a large chunk of its oil from Saudi Arabia, which despite being a Muslim regime, loves the dollar just as much as any pure capitalist nation. There is no other reason to meddle in that region. The US has righted the course in recent years by pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan, limiting itself to air support in Libyan uprising, and non-intervention in volatile Syria.
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The Shrike,
You’re not entirely wrong; however, you said “biggest motivating factor”. The biggest motivating factor for al Qaeda’s war against the US was the 1990s US intervention in Iraq.
The document uses “crusader-Zionist alliance” to explain the 1990s US intervention in Iraq, not as the primary reason. Since it’s an explanation for the primary reason, and not the primary reason in and of itself, it doesn’t qualify as the biggest motivating factor. Was it a motivating factor? Sure, just not the “biggest” motivating factor.
In any case, al Qaeda’s PR wing wasn’t factually correct on the composition of the moving parties. The base alliance for US intervention in Iraq wasn’t the Israel-US alliance. The base alliance was the Saudi-US alliance, per the Carter Doctrine and the Reagan Corollary to the Carter Doctrine. Bush Sr deployed Desert Shield/Storm to enforce the Carter-Doctrine/Reagan-Corollary. The course of the 1990s US intervention in Iraq, eventually resolved by Operation Iraqi Freedom, followed from there.
I suspect al Qaeda’s leadership knew the facts, but their PR wing had strategic reasons for blaming Israel instead of Saudi Arabia for the US intervention in Iraq.
Since you said “America gets a large chunk of its oil from Saudi Arabia”, does that imply you believe the US alliance with Saudi Arabia qualifies as a US interest?
“The US has righted the course in recent years by pulling out of Iraq, Afghanistan, limiting itself to air support in Libyan uprising, and non-intervention in volatile Syria.”
Yours is the IR-realist view, and IR-realism is a mainstream foreign policy school. Before 9/11, Bush was an IR-realist, too. The problem is the IR-realist view guided our Middle East policy until 9/11, and within our IR-realist approach to the region, the conditions that fostered 9/11 happened.
As President Bush said in 2004, explaining his 9/11-induced conversion to an IR-liberal: “For decades, free nations tolerated oppression in the Middle East for the sake of stability. In practice, this approach brought little stability, and much oppression. So I have changed this policy.”
President Obama has indeed shifted away from Bush’s post-9/11 IR-liberal approach to the Middle East. Although you may view that as progress, Obama seems to have adopted the worst features of both approaches mixed together with gross incompetence (or, as some accuse, purposeful intent to sabotage US interests). The consequences of Obama’s feckless, haphazard shift away from Bush’s progressing liberal strategy at a critical, difference-making point have been tragically predictable and evitable.
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Collapse of the Arab Spring? The only collapse was when the military shut them down. The “democratic” winners were the Muslim Brotherhood and friends. The Middle East is quicksand that sucks in and disposes of those with good intentions. Never hear of the saying “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink”? The only way democracy (vile thing that it is, the Founding Fathers in the USA spurned it in favor of a representative republic), should they want it, will come is if the locals fight for it. There has never been a successful imposition of a Republic or democracy from outside. Period. All have failed utterly, from the French Revolution creation of numerous client “republics” to the USA trying it in Cuba, the Philippines, and anywhere else you can name. All went to dictatorial governments. Best case scenario was South Korea, where it took thirty years before real elections and that was because the people pushed for them. George Washington said it best: avoid foreign entanglements. Oh, and by the way, Bush’s “victory” was Pyrrhic. We are broke and only getting worse. That wasn’t the sole cause but it has broken the camel’s back.
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CarpeOro,
War and peace-building spending in the War on Terror has not been the sole nor primary cause of the national debt. It’s a cost among other admittedly outsized government costs. Proportionally, over-all military spending since 9/11 actually hasn’t been excessive – think of it as like a pro-athlete salary that looks (and is) big, but actually has grown in proportion with the budget of the sport. More relevantly, military spending had nothing to do with the collapse of the mortgage bubble and domino-effect financial implosion in the private sector.
The military may be a government cost you dislike more than other government costs for fair reasons, but to single out military spending as ‘[the straw that] has broken the camel’s back’ of the US economy is a highly selective digging of an item out of the pile and making it out to be something more and other than what it is.
That argument is also outside of the scope of the best constructive course of action for US affairs in the Middle East after 9/11.
Liberal society is more than simple-majority democracy, of course. As Obama described it, post-Saddam Iraq should have been the cornerstone. I agree our victory in Iraq looks hollow now, but only because Obama bungled it. Obama was given a winning hand in Iraq – hard-earned – to build upon, but threw it away.
The sides in the Arab Spring were basically autocrats, Islamists, and liberals. Following up our success with post-Saddam Iraq, the courses of action for the US in the Arab Spring were take no action for any side, weaken one or more sides, and/or strengthen one or more sides.
Obama chose the worst course of action. Obama exerted US pressure to weaken the autocrats, ostensibly to support the liberals. Yet, while weakening the autocrats, Obama also declined to sufficiently support the liberals with the Bush Freedom Agenda. In effect, Obama opened the field for the Islamists.
We would have been better off taking no action than what Obama did. We at least have some common ground to deal with the autocrats. Not the Islamists.
I agree liberal reform requires an organic base, but liberal reform also requires active construction and conducive conditions, most of all a secure and stable environment, more so when competing for dominance with incompatible forms. Our experience in Iraq shows the organic base for liberal reform is viable, but they need help on construction, conditions, and especially competition.
If we’re still leader of the free world, then we help. If we’ve decided America is no longer that leader, then we don’t, and bless our competitors to define the world order instead.
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* previous comment from pizzaman – on a borrowed laptop and forgot to change ID info before posting.
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pizzaman,”The War on Terror was legit under Bush…”
Really? Three buildings collapsed on 9/11. Building #7 was not hit by a plane. Building#7 collapsed at free-fall acceleration for a distance of more than 100 feet. Anyone here take physics. How does fire cause steel beams to melt to NO resistance. None. Zero. A rock dropped from the same height in the air next to building #7 would have fallen for a least 100 feet at the same speed as the building. Fire?
Maybe you can argue the Frankfurt School’s teachings are of no consequence. Maybe you can argue sodomites are not a problem. Maybe you can argue the waves of pedophilia abuse in governments is not a problem. But how are you going to argue steel buildings falling at the speed of dropped rocks is normal. Even worse it fell symmetrically. Corners that were not even damaged fell straight down. Please explain first, then we’ll buy the big terrorism story.
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“The war on terrorism has been phony from the beginning.”
This has always been my opinion.
The United States was attacked by radical Muslims who were angry about Washington’s unqualified military support for Israel. Osama bin Laden spoke about this at length in one of his video releases, and he also refuted the myth that al Qaeda carried out 9/11 because of their supposed hatred for freedom and democracy.
The purported goal of launching the War on Terror was to eliminate bin Laden. Since Osama is dead, why is America still waging war in Afghanistan and possibly Iran in the future? Why did the United States go to war with Iraq when there were no WMDs? Obviously the War on Terror is a profitable money-making tool for the military-industrial complex. It’s also a means for the government to expand its power under the pretense of protecting citizens from terrorists.
I’ve pointed out these things many times in the past, and the reactions I get are always visceral. I get called unpatriotic and stupid. Other people call me a liberal, even though I regularly read many right-wing websites like AmRen, AltRight and the Occidental Quarterly.
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There were WMDs.
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“The purported goal of launching the War on Terror was to eliminate bin Laden”
That’s not correct because bin Laden wasn’t solely responsible for the 9/11 attacks nor the sole terrorist threat to the US.
From Public Law 107-40, Sep 18, 2001, Joint Resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States:
(a) <> In General.–That the President is
authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those
nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized,
committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11,
2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any
future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such
nations, organizations or persons.
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Note that PL 107-40 was only the law passed in direct response to the 9/11 attacks. From the Cilnton administration, other anti-terror laws and policies were up before 9/11 because the 9/11 attacks weren’t the first terrorist attacks against us.
“Why did the United States go to war with Iraq when there were no WMDs?”
Because the trigger for Operation Iraqi Freedom was not demonstrable possession of WMD. Rather the trigger was Saddam’s failure to comply with the Gulf War ceasefire and UNSC resolutions, including but not limited to Iraq’s failure to account for proscribed weapons. Iraq’s failure to comply with non-weapons resolutions were also triggers.
Since the Gulf War, Saddam’s possession of proscribed weapons was established and his guilt was presumed as the basis for the enforcement of the ceasefire and resolutions. As such, the entire burden of proof was on Saddam to show Iraq’s proscribed weapons were accounted for and disarmed. The US and UN held no burden of proof to demonstrate Saddam possessed proscribed weapons. Saddam’s history of hiding weapons and thwarting the inspections raised the standard for Saddam to meet his burden of proof.
Saddam’s failure to meet his burden of proof meant his presumption of guilt controlled, which triggered Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Furthermore, after years of frustration dealing with Saddam, Clinton determined that Iraq’s WMD was only symptomatic. The real danger of Iraq was the nature of Saddam’s regime. That meant resolving the Saddam problem required more than addressing Iraq’s WMD. The regime itself needed to fundamentally change, with or without Saddam. The test for regime change with Saddam staying in power was his full compliance. Saddam failed that test.
It’s not procedurally relevant to the trigger for Operation Iraqi Freedom, but the Duelfer report after the fact does show that Iraq was in violation of the weapons resolutions, though not entirely as suggested by the pre-war intelligence.
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The NSA has seen our nudes.
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NSA NSA NSA. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE CIA?
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I feel you don’t understand our Intelligence Agencies. Let me boil it down to absurdly simple game/PUA terms. NSA are beta listeners. Always have been and always will be, and just like our society they are manifold and many. It requires very little skill to use technology for malicious intent developed by a few men far smarter and better than you. You simply suit up every day. You can easily gain a Secret, Top Secret, or SCI clearance by simply having never done anything wrong and being a beta your entire life. It is, truly that simple.
The CIA— is an entirely different matter. They are a much smaller fraction of the US Intel budget. Always have been. Let us then call this, the Land of Alphas, again, in Game/PUA terms. The CIA are “do’ers” through and through.
NSA does all the grinding monotonous boring work, CIA executes. Yankee White clearance? Look it up… NSA directors have it, but CIA has it at a much lower level, ‘cuz why? They get the shit risky shit done that NSA dudes simply won’t do. Want to be a tool for Leviathan but still get to go home to put your kids to bed and possibly fuck your wife? NSA all the way.
Want to prop up foreign coups, overthrows, dictators, possibly be killed in action, possibly execute sitting US presidents if they decide to turn over the apple cart too rapidly, undermine regimes not friendly to US interests, supply terrorists with weapons which may likely be turned back against the ‘States in the future, et. al.? CIA all the way—
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When they are having a slow day the NSA nerds look at the sexy photos of your woman,
because they can.
and you will not even know if and when they do.
The gay NSA staff will look at photos of your dick.
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It also makes you wonder who the real ruling class is. I seriously doubt the president would have any real power over the NSA at this point, so who’s running them?
One thing that’s for sure is that it isn’t the WASPs of old.
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Took the family last summer to DC to see the sights. We had a tour of the Library of Congress (it’s a public tour, I recommend it) and the tourguide lady said a lot of their archives are stored in Ft Meade, MD. That’s where the NSA is.
The public documents (LoC) and the clandestine ones are all merged into one big information source. She didn’t disagree when I found this somewhat remarkable. That’s why she said it.
Not everyone who works in DC is a dweeb. She was helpful and informative.
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The NSA’s surveillance software has all been designed by Israeli companies and we share raw data with the Israelis. I’m quite certain that Israel has full access to all the intel gathered, either authorized or illicitly through hidden trap doors in he software. I’m sure that International Finance has full overview as well and uses it to destroy or build whomever they see fit. Our government is being stolen right before our very eyes.
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The families that own the Fed.
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Probably a fallacy likely looking for the “hand of God” guiding events. The government just does what it does like any being. Which is why it needs to be constantly chopped back like vegetation, fumigated like insects, fenced out like rabbits, burned away like a virus. Unfortunately the pestilence has become powerful, with the hosts promoting the disease similar to how Toxoplasmosis reduces mice’s fear of cats.
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This sounds right. The government is too powerful in the wrong ways.
On the other hand, it’s doing some things right. We’re not ratifying the full UN “human rights” agenda which would be even more oppressive, though some think Obama is doing it by stealth.
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Obama is the first President to not care about rules, laws and the Constitution so much.
He has no conscience, he lies all the time about many things form Benghazi, to the fact he said at least 20 times ” you can keep your healthcare system if you like it” which was a lie ( he lied about having told the same lie over 20 times ),
He behaves like a dictator.
It was under his watch that the IRS was used to persecute those who oppose Obama such as the Tea Party.
It is under his watch that the NSA has gone too far, and is still going too far.
Maybe he is not involved directly in all those things, but he certainly is the one giving the ok to go ahead as he can assure everyone there will be no consequences.
Obama is untouchable and so are his minions and his flying monkeys…well at least for now…maybe someday people will be really fed up and hold him accountable, but for now he is untouchable.
It boggles the mind how the American people have become so docile
Pardon my French but Obama is fucking the American people in the ass and almost no one is protesting.
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> “Pardon my French but Obama is fucking the American people in the ass and almost no one is protesting.”
Boehner is a Jesuit whose entire 100,000-year-old family tree has just been cuckholded by a dope-peddling rastafarian nigger from Jamaica.
Paul Ryan is a Jesuit who just sold out our veterans in his budget deal with Patty Murray [and he also dated a niggeress back in college].
Eric Cantor is a Fifth Columnist sent over by The Frankfurt School to infiltrate and destroy the GOP from within.
In the Senate, both Bitch McConnell and Miss Lindsey Grahamnesty are flagrant sodomites.
The GOP has been literally cut off at the knees by the evil in its leadership ranks.
The interesting question would be to work backwards and try to trace the history of just how the evil ones moved in and seized control of the party.
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ZS— as I said, you seem to have lost your mind approx. 90 days ago, but you still provide the LULZ either way.
Boehner is a Jesuit whose entire 100,000-year-old family tree has just been cuckholded by a dope-peddling rastafarian nigger from Jamaica.
LMFAO— I’d never had thought it true had I not seen it with my own eyes. And this is, if you believe MSM (YHW bought and controlled on both ‘right’ and ‘left) the strongest “opposition” leader we have. Right…
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Hadn’t heard that about McConnell, he seemed pretty solid. I watched him debating Harry Reid on the Senate floor from the gallery when we happened to go to watch the Senate during our trip there. They were arguing over the Nuclear Option (lowering the hurdle for cloture from 60 to 50 votes) that Reid ended up implementing for nominee confirmations a month or two later. And I can tell you they did not like each other, it was obvious. They weren’t just brothers in some vast conspiracy, although on some dimensions I am sure they are. The vibe was hatred. McConnell seems fairly solid and has been playing some strategical games competently from the right side.
That doesn’t mean he isn’t gay I guess.
Didn’t know Boehner was Jesuit either, and what is this about a Jamaican fucking up his family?
Agree that Ryan and Graham are weird. Haven’t been following what Cantor has been doing but I vaguely recall some of it seemed strange.
But McConnell and Boehner seem like pretty solid Republicans to me. I’ll change my mind on Boehner if he tries to slip immigration amnesty through.
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John Boehner’s daughter is marrying a Jamaican-born man who has been arrested for possessing marijuana
By Daily Mail Reporter
24 April 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314065/John-Boehners-daughter-marrying-Jamaican-born-man-arrested-possession-marijuana.html
Pictured: The Jamaican-born fiancé of John Boehner’s daughter – who has been arrested for possessing marijuana
By Sara Nathan
13 May 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314818/Dominic-Lakhan-The-Jamaican-born-fianc-John-Boehners-daughter–arrested-possessing-marijuana.html
The moment proud father John Boehner watched his daughter say ‘I Do’ to her dreadlocked Jamaican-born love
By Sara Nathan
13 May 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324023/The-moment-proud-father-John-Boehner-watched-daughter-say-I-Do-dreadlocked-Jamaican-born-love.html
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“Didn’t know Boehner was Jesuit either, and what is this about a Jamaican fucking up his family?”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324023/The-moment-proud-father-John-Boehner-watched-daughter-say-I-Do-dreadlocked-Jamaican-born-love.html
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OMFG. I don’t know what to think.
Unbelievable. Is that daughter his only child?
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No. he has another daughter who is married and lives in Ohio. This is his slutty daughter. She’s 35 and just getting married and has a tattoo. I’d have made this fellow go away all the same.
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You’d think some moderately eligible guy would take the daughter just for the connections. Chelsea Clinton got married to a rich guy, now granted her connections are even better and after the massive facial reconstruction she’s more desirable, but still …
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John Boehner is an octoroon; get off his dick.
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Boner’s daughters are dogs
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No, they’re Canardlies.
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All of us are feeling in the dark here but I just cannot accept that Obama has real power. He was plucked from obscurity and punted into the Presidency. His bulging cupboard of skeletons was kept firmly locked. He’s so utterly compromised that he’s putty in the hands of his real masters. Their identity can perhaps be glimpsed by examining who selected and propelled him.
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Here is something that explains at least in part who is behind Obama, you have probably heard of them before,
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/who-funds-the-radical-left-in-america/
here is an excerpt,
” … Over the course of its 33 year history, ,b.the Tides network, has given hundreds of millions of dollars to anti-free enterprise groups, gun control groups, anti-private property groups, abortion rights groups, homosexual groups, groups engaged in voter fraud, anti-military groups, and organizations that seek to destroy America’s constitutional basis. All told, over 100 leftist organizations have received funding from one of the two Tides groups.
Not surprisingly, this network of anti-American groups played a key role in electing Barack Obama by using classic propaganda techniques in making false allegations about Bush (he lied regarding WMDs, he stole the election in Florida, he knew in advance about 9/11, etc, etc.) and created the impression that Bush and by extension, the GOP, was corrupt. Obama, of course, was portrayed as the reformer who would save America from this corruption.
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AN interesting link. But I think it’s a mistake to see things in terms of the Left/Right dichotomy. The agenda goes much deeper. I don’t think the Soros’ of this world have the slightest interest in the things that normally exercise a Leftist only in so far as they can be deployed as a hidden surrogate to destroy their real enemy. Us.
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I’ve said for years that he is a Manchurian Candidate of the CPUSA and wholly owned by George Soros.
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“One thing that’s for sure is that it isn’t the WASPs of old.”
So who does that leave? (Scratching my head in ouzzlement).
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Sodomites.
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Answer: Who was sitting behind the podium at Obamas Inaugural Speech?
Chiefs of Staff? Fortune 500 CEOs? Skull & Bones ex-Presidents? Nope.
Oprah.
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The Freemasons built their shining city on a hill, and it smells like a sewage pond. And now, they’re starting to get scared that the sheeple are starting to notice the stench.
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Lol. 99.4% of the sheeple notice nothing.
As awesome as this blog is, CH has perhaps 2,000 regular readers. Out of 180 million adults in the US and how many millions more in the UK and other civilized English speaking countries?
The rest are sheeple running up credit card debt to buy plastic garbage. The rest get their instruction on how to live and what to think from CNN, which is EVIL.
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Sad but true. However it’s up to the awakened among us to open eyes in any way we can. The one bright speck is that our numbers, though tiny, are growing very rapidly.
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I am continually amazed at how much government intrusion Americans seem to have accepted for years. I compare with Ireland which has the highest level of individual citizen protection anywhere in the English speaking world.
Hysterical tyranny dates back to at least as early as the McCarthy hearings (which weren’t a trial – nobody could be compelled to attend or testify).
It’s time to take a stand, folks
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McCarthy was accusing people of being communists, who as far as I have heard, have turned out to be communists. So how is that hysterical tyranny? Give a fellow Irishman some credit.
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McCarthy was right. Those Communists should have been tried for treason and deported or executed.
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Most of them had top cover from someone higher than the President. Every president who tried to print the nation’s own money was assassinated.
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As others have said— McCarthy was posthumously right.. he accused many Hollywood bigwigs of the era of being Red sympathizers. Guess what? YHWs through and through who had much knowledge of Bolshevik causes.
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YKW for the last century has been one big Zionist-Communist debating society. The Communist Movement is YKW’s secular method for controlling the world. Even if your doctor doesn’t believe in this stuff, which he proabably doesn’t, he likely contributes to groups like the AJC, JWC, AIPAC, SPLC, etc. Their big organizations are all moving to bring us a worker’s paradise where the majority of the party leaders will just happen to be YKW.
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Communism’s dead.
I think most of the Jews up top are more into Davos-style (neo)liberalism instead…globalization and a welfare state.
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It’s easy for you Euro faggots to play “good cop”….. because the US Armed Forces have got your back.
We should have just handed you over to the Rooskies. then you could have had your fantasyland “peaceful world”….. like the (say for example) Ukranians got.
Let’s be honest…. the Irish males don’t have the balls nor the fortitude to guard their own freedom.
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Shut up, fag. McCarthy was more right than even he knew.
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Talking of fags, why is nobody mentioning McCarthy’s little faggot sidekick, Roy Cohn?
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Roy knew likely where the Commies were.
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LOL.
Dissing McCarthy on a neo-reactionary platform and expecting folks to take a stand with you?
Epic fail, faggot.
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Hysterical tyranny > hysterical tranny
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I was going to change my moniker to “that faggot from Dublin” but my tablet keeps changing the word to ‘maggot’
Bring the flames …
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I think you’re an ok fellow. I’d have a beer with you.
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Gay
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I think his type is more into stuff like white Zinfandel.
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Or poppers.
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Any man who dresses as fine as you is welcome in my crew.
(no homo)
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“(no homo)”
Im poss see blah…. Your appreciation of fashion and at least half or quarter ni66a dick does not allow for the quoted interaction to occur. Sorry sir.
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fatality
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Why do you want to make your moniker a liver-pork meatball?
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most of these basic queers teasing ya would need a week of intense coaching to deal with just two mins of the faghag toss off u got.
no worries.
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You fairy.
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“My mouth is agape. With names like ‘Bullrun’ and ‘Manassas’ for these programs, NSA is now (inadvertently) telling us they consider themselves to be battling a civil war…with the citizens of the United States.”
For the moment, the cold civil war (as John Derbyshire has described it) remains a cold one. If current trends continue, within twenty years or so it will erupt into a hot one.
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> “within twenty years or so”
Twenty years will be too late.
The Resistance needs to move on, from simply stockpiling traditional ammunition [9mm, .308, 12-gauge, etc], and instead to begin branching out quickly into anti-drone systems and anti-robotic systems.
It’s only a matter of time now before they turn the drones and the new Google Robots upon us.
Mark my words.
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Anti-drone is problematic due to their high operating altitude, this will be a challenge no matter what. Anti-robotic is far easier and will be for a while because the systems are very green and crude. You can easily destroy any robotic platform we can field right now with conventional weapons a few smoke grenades, and a couple of road flares. Two decades from now? Not so much…
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Imagine an army of Google Robots, powered by Google Maps, and by Google search history, and by Gmail and Google Informatics intel on your political proclivities:
Google Joins The Military-Industrial Complex (Robots and “BigDog” Zombie Drones)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3102528/posts
Google’s robots and creeping militarization
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3110755/posts
And imagine that it became so cheap to produce the robots that Google could order them up, at, say, $10 a pop [maybe even with infrared “vision”]:
Google’s Schaft robot wins Darpa rescue challenge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25493584
Then Googe could order up 100,000,000 [ONE HUNDRED MILLION] robots for a mere $1 Billion.
Where a billion isn’t even CHUMP CHANGE to a Frankfurt School entity, like Google, which is on the receiving end of a limitless supply of fiat electrons being sent to them by the Frankfurt School High Priests & Priestesses of the Jekyll Island Conspriacy – Volcker, Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner, Yellen, Fischer, et al.
And suppose that Google could develop [or purchase] some halfway decent “dynamic swarming” technology, which allowed the robots to identify and seek and destroy targets, in swarms, with some semi-intelligent aspects to their behavior.
And then suppose that those ONE HUNDRED MILLION robots were sent to destroy a milita of only one million Patriots.
Fighting conventionally, each Patriot would need to be a perfect shot at the clay range, and would need to be supplied with at least 100 X 12-gauge shotgun shells, and would have to record 100 perfect kills in rapid-fire succession [faster than the Google Robots could attack him] – all while pausing to reload ever so often – just in order to survive the onslaught.
Which is to say: The militia of one million Patriots would be quickly and easily slaughtered and annihilated and then written right out of the history books.
Without the Frankfurt School ever having had to launch even a single nuclear device.
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Well drone wars could be interesting. One way or another, we are at the beginning of that story.
They’ll never be $10 though. The batteries in them cost way more than that, and whatever the state of the art battery tech. is, you’ll want to spend on the batteries, because they give you more payload, maneuverability, mission time, etc.
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Believe me when I say, I’m in the 1% of CH readers who keeps themselves apprised of -all- new military tech.
And if I wasn’t clear, I don’t disagree with you that robots will undo any enemy of the States within a decade or two. But you are over simplifying the current situation.
BigDog, Cheetah, PetMan, are quite expensive still. And let me say this again to be clear, RIGHT NOW. In 10 years your cost analysis will be valid.
They are also prone to simple countermeasures as I already told you. IRNV lenses can see through smoke assuming you know WHAT you are seeing. Secondarily, they have flare compensation too. An IRNV lens/optics system with this amount of tech currently sells for about US $20,000 for a 1-2x optic. You want to zoom that bitch? Start multiplying…
Swarm bots on the other hand, are a problem today. They are small, light, uber-cheap, and as you stated can project a massive amount of surveillance.
You surmised that the swarmbots would be the killer types, no, not for a long while. It is cost prohibitive right now. But the surveillance variety exist now, and are had for pennys on the dollar.
Once they have overtaken an AOE it won’t be Petman, BigDog, etc. it will just be planes and gunships. Much cheaper and still out of range.
Summary- Less Terminator, More Apocalypse Now.
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When you win the propaganda war, you and your guys will control all those toys and you’ll be able to do whatever you want with them.
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Why anti-drone? How about drone?
There’s all this fuss about whether you can have your own AR-15, meanwhile the drone market is totally unregulated. Granted you can’t have as strong a one as the military, but you can take a lot of pretty pictures for $1000. Including flight management system, camera, you can even wear special goggles and have the view from your plane. It’s all really really affordable.
http://store.3drobotics.com/ for example.
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Until flying your drone becomes a felony … http://diydrones.com/m/blogpost?id=705844%3ABlogPost%3A1524441
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There are always some Democrats trying to spoil your fun. The bill has gone exactly nowhere so far.
Even according to that bill, you can fly your camera drone above public lands as long as your name is on it.
And if your name isn’t on it, how will they know what you did?
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It’s a propaganda war. The people have been subjected to relentless psychological warfare and are deeply demoralized (brainwashed). Job one is deprogramming them. Our tools are talking points, images, stories, videos. Our enemies have gotten everything they have through propaganda.
Timothy McVeigh didn’t deprogram anybody.
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Rather, we need to begin vilifying drone operators, questioning their manhood, encouraging people to dox them. Make it shameful and dangerous to be a cowardly nerd who kills women and children from the safety of his expensive ergonomic chair.
But we must be as shrewd as Frankfurts in this operation.
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Gerald Celente was been warning people about the Military-Industrial Complex (as President Dwight Eisenhower famously warned the U.S. in his farewell address) for some time now.
Banks, the Corporates, the Military-Industrial Complex and the bought Politicians. Surely that is a recipe for Fascism.
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So Ike said it 50 years ago, but now that Gerald rants about it can we start paying attention. Thanks Mr. Celente!
My beef with GC is that his diatribes are information-free.
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I like GC but as you see there’s never any specific information and next year’s collapse has been happening for the last four years!
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They know that the United States and Western civilization is collapsing and they think they can contain it, control that outcome, and put a boot on the throat of humanity forever.
To paraphrase Rose Kennedy, what’s the point of being rich if common people can have nice things too.
People will tolerate lots of things as long as they haven’t lost everything, as long as they’re fed hope (which is an addiction). As long as they are materially better off than most people and even the poor here are better off than most people in the world.
When that ends is when it will erupt. It will erupt on the edges first, but it will erupt eventually.
The amusing thing is they have set up an apparatis which will eventually be turned against them. They have set up a system where they can be monitored and found anywhere in the world, and a legal apparatus that takes the position that the United States has complete jurisdiction over its citizens no matter where they are in the world and can prosecute them for things that are not a crime at the location they occur.
The Bushes can run to their Bolt hole in Paraguay, the Bankers can try to run to China.
It will not matter.
It is inevitable.
My only lament is I probably won’t be around to see it, but immortality takes many forms.
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Nothing is erupting.
If you were to describe the past seven years worth of legislation: TARP, Patriot Act, Obamacare, along with the way they were jammed thru Congress in violation of any common sense interpretation of the rules, along with a few choice quotes (“you’ve got to pass it to see what’s in it”), and asked anyone if it could happen, most people in early 2007 would have said no way, there would be a revolution, or SCOTUS would have stepped in to save us, or something.
But here we are, still in semi-disbelief.
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Oops Patriot Act was earlier wasn’t it? But that means it’s even worse. In 2000 nobody could have believed we’d have a Prez like W and 9/11 and getting to the situation in 2007. And then in 2007, nobody could believe we could get here.
What do the next seven years hold? Salvation of course. Yes of course. Anyone want to buy a bridge linking Brooklyn and Manhattan?
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This is not an attack on you FamilyMan but I am always puzzled as to why people focus so much on what Bush has done wrong when Obama is either doing the exact same thing and in many cases doing far worse things.
Did you know that one of the things that motivated Snowden to reveal all the spying by the NSA was because Obama had taken it to a much more intrusive level than Bush?
Why even mention Bush? Obama is doing things that are far more disturbing and he would be doing those things no matter if Bush had been there before him or not.
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quit crying obama said these nsa folks are our friends and neighbors
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He is right actually… see my post higher up for explanation. They will spy on you taking a shit and wanking off to kiddie porn, but they live next door to you. This was not actually a false statement.
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A buddy of mine used to work for them.
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Dox him. For great good.
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None of this immigration “reform” is the will of the people.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/17/obama-vows-john-boehner-will-indeed-push-through-i/
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and i don’t think a lot of people realize (more are every day) the stark difference between ‘free enterprise’ and ‘big business’. big business loves more regulation, more centralized power– they know which palms to grease. free enterprise needs a level playing field and low barrier of entry so competition can sprout up.
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As CF says, immigration ‘reform’ (more Newspeak) is about replacing and blending out the White race. Once you understand what the overall program is about it becomes startlingly simple to join the dots. Unfortunately the number of Whites who can do that, or would want to, remains tiny. Our lands will be like Brazil within a few generations.
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That is race replacement.
It is not done anywhere but in white nations.
But for my mentioning it I will be called a racist.
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Eventually it will become meaningless.
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I’ll call you a racist, and I’ll call myself a racist too.
It’s not a crime to be a racist. If we own the word and don’t flinch from it, I think it loses its power.
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The problem is the day the word “racist” looses its power, the left will come up with another word. ( example; The more we come up with evidence the planet is not warming – at least not as fast as Al Gore warned us – the more they change the name of global warming )
Us white men in the eyes of white leftists are the perpetual aggressor and everyone else the perpetual victims.
As long as we let the crazies run the asylum ( the left is the establishment now and judging by what they do they are mostly dysfunctional deranged people ) leftists will wage this war against white males and treat us like shit as much as they can.
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But who get’s laid more by young, slender, facially symmetrical, white women due to the NSA’s work? If you ever met guys from the NSA, they aren’t exactly alphas.
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I feel like a fucking broken record now after repeating the same stuff from my last reply. How the HELL is this news?! Scroll up for NSA vs. CIA… christ.
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90% incumbent reelection rate and that includes dying in office, retiring and going to prison. My oppressor is the dumb fuck assholes next to me in the elevator, bus, at the movies, everywhere I go.. I see slaves with their head up their asses consuming media on their idiot phones. Democrats? Republicans? Keep voting them in? You gotta be kidding me. Think the NSA is the only one watching? I am watching and I don’t know how they can keep spying on us without puking or just laughing their asses off. .
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You are aware Obama was probably not reelected right?
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Not really aware of that but what about Congress?
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If Obama were confident of reelection with an accurate vote count (even after preventing lots of illegal registrations from being checked) he would not have had to award himself 100.0% of the vote — every single vote — in certain black districts in inner city Philadelphia and Cleveland. Including one where a black woman was on tape saying that she was voting for Romney because they needed business in her neighborhood.
A lot of blacks were disillusioned with Obama by 2012, he had accomplished little for them. They would tend to vote for him based on color, but not enthusiastically, and Romney had a chance to get some of those votes — and he surely did.
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Greater Information collecting ability is largely meaningless unless you also increase your ability to process and make sense of it (without a value loss as a function of time)
Are you really better off with a larger “haystack?”
How many of you know talented people who spend so much time collecting and managing their resources that they never actually produce anything of value?
Fighter pilots refer to the phenomenon as a “helmet fire”
(80 percent of all e-mail is spam)
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Ever hear of data mining?
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Carlos Danger
Ever hear of data mining?
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Yeah, but todays machines can produce as much data as you want.
I predict that due to machines getting smarter, and/or people getting dumber; future Capcha” software will will require you to answer a joke or riddle correctly, instead of correctly typing in a line of difficult to read characters.
On the other hand, just imagine the NSA listening in on a couple of jive ni66as:
11) “UNINTELLIGIBLE GREETINGS”: Two Niggers passing each other on a street or sidewalk will loudly utter unintelligible garbage back and forth and walk away smugly as if something important had just happened. It didn’t. The Nigger engages in a 24 hour a day effort to set itself apart from the rest of the Chimp Pack in order to be noticed by females, or by pretending it knows something that the others don’t in order to give its fragile ego a boost.
Typically, in a scenario like described above, Nigger #1 will bellow out something like, “Hey Brutha — Foobity Hoo, Fu Man Chu, Who Be You, CanYaDigIt?”
The second Nigger, not wanting to admit that it doesn’t know what the first Nigger is even remotely talking about will reply in an even louder voice (to draw more attention to itself) “Summuh Fummuh, Shamma Lamma, Sweet Home Alabama, and a SideOrderO’FrenchFries”
The first Nigger, unable to understand a damn thing the second Nigger said, will pretend that it understands perfectly well as to not to appear stupid. It will respond in an even louder voice (again, typical “Look-A-Me” behavior) and utter some more idiotic garbage.
Pretty soon, they are both talking at the same time and trying to drown one another out as they continue on their separate ways — each content that it was the victor in a verbal display of dominance and showmanship, much like two Roosters puffing and strutting around the same yard to impress the females. Stupid Niggers….
What better cover for transmitting secret information than afrocentric negro babble?
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There is terrifying truth in this statement. Few will see your genius. First off, not sure why you posted Das Efx, but as a “honorary” knee-grow white boy who was immersed in ghetto culture for fun and profit, I do know that song well. I get your point, Das Efx are spitting mad niggerish lyrics that make very little sense. So I suppose, in that way, it does jive. There is a concept that is usually lost on our best and brightest and though it is very difficult to pull off, it has historically worked best—
Hiding in Plain Sight. They, the listeners, look to complex ideas and technologies. They search far, wide, and deep. But as you said, two ni66as who have been told to speak jive to each other for a 50 rock each from an unknown source could undo an entire city.
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We all know who the real citizen enemies are…monkeys like you.
Rape!
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Artificial Intelligence backed by truly awesome computational power. You can even buy incredible computing power for your home, all the Pentiums since Nehalem (a few years ago) are monster processors, and you can get an incredible data crunching machine for a couple thou.
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With all that computing power, if you ask a super computer: “Whats a Hindu?”
Will it ever answer: “lay eggs”
How do you give a machine DESIRE?
I don’t think they stand a chance against us without it.
Look at all the ways we get around software designed to filter out words like ooJ and ni66er?
I think we should start calling black people “mondays” because EVERYBODY hates Mondays.
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There’s a certain attitude of “fair play” on the public internet. They pretend to have content filters and we pretend to comply and everyone’s OK with it. And there’s no money to be made by improving the filters.
Presumably sometimes the NSA wants to be competent. Then I believe they can be competent. They have the money to hire the people, and often the technical problems are quite interesting and motivating to young geeks they hire.
Warfare — including information warfare — is the source of much of our technology development. The internet was originally DARPAnet. DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
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Obama suddenly realizes America is racist.
http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/935149
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Our third annual sobfest from down under about the alpha shortage.
http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/935110
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I’m curious as to whether any of you guys have been Down Under to Australia and of your experiences with Australian women.
They are indeed a mixed bunch; particularly in the big cities Melbourne and Sydney.
They are no better; and often worse than American women.
What many Australian guys find is that with American women, they will at least seem and act friendly and have a conversation without the bitch shield assumption that you are only there to fuck them.
As far as Australian, white, “professional” women go, you will struggle to find a more self entitled, hypergamous, hamster spinning, “yayyy, girl power”, blame men for everything group of women in the world.
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From my understanding, Brit/Irish/Aus/NZ women are the worst in the world.
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Yes, and our mainstream media are one of their main enablers.
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True, but Scandinavian women are in there with them. To them men are the enemy.
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What many Australian guys find is that with American women, they will at least seem and act friendly and have a conversation without the bitch shield assumption that you are only there to fuck them.
I believe “foreigner with (cool) accent” may have something to do with that. This is likely the same for non-Australian talking to a white, “professional” Australian women.
vive la difference
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Yes, the foreigner with the cool accent does have an effect.
Also, the what happens on holidays/overseas stays on holidays/overseas (doesn’t count) when she gets back home.
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That’s what’s kind of funny about our immigration policies. Many of us find European/Western accents attractive, but do we get more people with these kinds of accents? No, we get people with less attractive (or not at all attractive) accents. Why don’t we get to get immigrants we actually would like to have in our country?
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Audrey a very good question. I know of a white woman who has been trying to get her white college graduate husband over from the Netherlands for years, and she has about given up.
Meanwhile we a lot of people from places we would never even want to visit, because those people have made shitty countries. I think there’ was an immigration act around 1960 that fucked things up.
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Australia is being flooded with Chinese and Indian immigrants.
Walk through the Melbourne CBD (Central Business District) and you will think you are in a foreign (non-white) country.
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/01/immigration-into-australia-highest-in-four-years/
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Can Australia handle rapid poulation growth?
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/10/can-australia-handle-rapid-population-growth/
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+100— Americunts will swoon over Aussie / Brit accents. This has been widely validated. There is a reciprocal thing for men but it isn’t as strong as Aussie and UK women tend to still be as bitchy and aggressive as US women.
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Depends on the accent. Yorkshire is impossible to understand in some cases, Brummie is whiny.
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Duh, yes. Even that lefty-rodent Seth MacFarlane (may he and his family die in a plane crash) noticed this and did a skit where just talking in an Australian accent netted some guy three girls at once.
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I lived in Aus for 9 months in 2010. It depends on if you live in the city or in the country.
In the city, The women suck. They’re feminists, they watch Sex and the City, they expect expensive gifts, they’re shit in other words. If you’re an American you might get a few roots (as they call em) off that because you’re exotic, but they’re pump-and-dump material at best.
In the country, totally different world. You have to actually work out there to get to know them I worked in the Northern Territory for 6 months. Some of the jillaroos (cowgirls) are smoking. For the most part, they’re sweet hardworking girls. A few city-style bitches sprinkled in, it’s not bad.Find a half-caste (half-Aboriginal, half-white), they’re fine, and down to fuck. DO NOT FUCK A GIN (Aboriginal female) DO NOT FUCK A GIN. They might try and fuck you though…
“Hey ya wan shum shex?”
“Buy me uh be-ear!”
“Nor”
“Awww pleesh? All shuck yo ballshz”
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Besides regret, what are the consequences for fucking a Gin?
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Is Evonne Goolagong. a “Gin?”
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Australian Aboriginals have a have a significantly higher rate of sexually transmissible infection (STI) than the rest of the community and they are generally seen as having VERY low sexual market value by the vast majority of the general population.
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Hell hath no fury like an Australian woman in the Family Law Court.
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This PM of yours seems to have his head on straight though.
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For quite some time our current PM (Tony Abbott) was being painted or implied by much of the mainstream as being a misogynist or at least being sexist.
Then his media handlers/spin doctors went about (successfully) manipulating his image as a loving husband and father of three daughters.
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/tony-abbotts-women-in-white-a-symbol-of-whats-to-come-20130911-2tjm7.html
At the same time, leading up to the election that Abbott won, his predecessor Julia Gillard was smashed in the media.
As far as his head goes; I can assure you that it is firmly planted up his own ass.
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Are all Australian judges Jewish like in the US?
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Very timely. Just today I was saying quite the same thing about VADER, a sensor being used by border patrol. While I might agree with border security, I also know that what can be used to keep people out who want in, it can and might eventually be used to keep in those who are trying to leave.
It seems that a reasonable agency head might have determined that naming the tool after an evil, iron-fisted imperial lord might send the wrong message. Unless that is the message they intended to send. Yes, its like they are rubbing it in our faces. The republic is dead. This is an empire, and we are the subjects.
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-04/border-patrols-newest-tool-vader-drone
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The War on Terror is quite real. It consists of refusing to name it by its proper name: War Against Muslims. Who are very assuredly making war on us, from beheading the odd White British soldier in the middle of London at noon, or blowing up the Boston Marathon.
However PC and Diversity crime-think prevent the NSA and anyone else from actually doing anything about it. Hence the tools are used on the White Middle class. Presumably, me. I’m sure I’m slated for destruction. I’ve stopped caring some time ago.
So we have half-assed idiot moves to stop jihadis, handcuffed by PC and “Diversity” garbage, the Crystal Methodism of religions, and the ugly clueless elites nervously fantasizing about a giant Holmodor for us peasants.
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> “War Against Muslims”
You mis-spelled, “The war by my Tribe to eradicate Christianity from the Middle East under the guise of a phony war against Islam”.
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Who let the muslims in? Who provides continuous political and propaganda cover the keep them there and let more in? Those are the real enemies. Muslims haven’t been able to invade Europe by force of arms for centuries.
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…says the jew
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Whiskey, I hold no brief for that execrable ‘religion’. But the only reason the West has problems with Muslims is that we’ve been induced to fight them on Israel’s behalf (and other unworthy reasons) and that tens of millions have flooded into Western lands, with predictable results. It’s about as cynical and cynicism gets.
http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2013/11/ethics-for-thee-but-not-for-me.html
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I know your eyes have opened, and you have a very real presence on the alt-net, but you seem a bit misguided or ignorant, about this particular entity. Whiskey (simple letter reversal YKW) is a crypto-jew; at the minimum. A philo-semite, and more likely a tribesman based on years of posts and conjecture.
Only the late Larry Auster held him in somewhat high esteem and I think this was because he hadn’t yet peeled of his human skin and face to reveal the ever probing and smelling reptile tongue and slitted eyes.
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Hey “whiskey”…
I just want you to know you and your hyperbolic lies and histrionics have done wonders in awakening at least one young man to the truth about YOU PEOPLE
Die in a fire you f*cking rat
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Hate to admit two things:
1) I have a brokerage account that I’ll probably leverage to buy an engagement ring with when I decide to tie the knot.
2) I invested a small sum in a company that works directly with the NSA (see link below).
http://unsungman.com/game-over
I invested in $KEYW long before the Snowden/NSA spying leaks and it’s really taking off. Not saying “if you can’t beat em, join em” or anything like that. I’m just a 26 year old who thought it would be good to invest in cybersecurity.
Point is…from my research I can tell you that serious money is flowing into cybersecurity.
So…if there’s really a “war” and a “secret royal family” waging it, I can tell you that they’re definitely funding both sides of this war.
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Congress will throw money at anything with the word “cyber” in it. That’s why the DoD is using the word now, despite the fact it’s an imaginary concept that doesn’t actually describe what they’re doing. And because nobody in the government understands it, it’s pretty easy for private industry to take advantage of. At the surface levels, anyway, it’s not a conspiracy, but bureaucratic idiocy.
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With the market this frothy I wouldn’t recommend leverage, especially when you hold mostly common stock without downside protection. And why the fuck spend that much on an engagement ring?
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I agree and how things turn out this January will be the barometer for the rest of 2014. It’s always been that way historically since the 1950s…which basically comes down to this…if Jan is a bust it’ll either be a flat market or a ~20% correction for 2014. So I agree with the hesitation but even in a bear market there are some overweight calls that can outpreform.
To answer the more important question…I probably won’t spend that much on an engagement ring. Average sucker pays about 5k. No clue how much I’ll pay but this little project does make for interesting conversation at times (even if I decide to say fuck it and blow it all on a trip to Estonia).
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Heartiste :
When I saw this “Jack Monroe” chick right there on the front page of Amerika’s newspaper of record, I know something just wasn’t right.
(http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/world/europe/jack-monroe-has-become-britains-austerity-celebrity.html?_r=0)
Even in the small thumbnail photo on the Times’ front page, you can see that this chick is no fatty, and is even totally presentable in terms of Heartiste notions of presentability to put it mildly.
Why therefore does this young Brit with a 2 year old have no suitors to care for her and her bastard spawn?
Eh bien, the vermin at the NYT want you to believe that all woman being fungible, this one just happened on to bad times, and the equalist forces of poverty-pouncing descended upon her in the same way that, say, a woman decades her senior and with scores of extra flesh would be subjected to, as well.
Obviously, this is not the case: the New York Times by putting “Jack” Monroe’s picture on their front page, is attempting to continue in their perfidious scheme of circumventing the laws of nature on every level, to make of one individual an example of their universalist doctrine.
…/…
I could never say it as well as you, which is why I bring this mater to your attention, and request that you dissect the pretty lies contained in trompe l’oeil within this sickeningly dishonest article.
Sincerely,
– Arturo
crimesofthetimes dot calm
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The tattoos have certainly not helped her in finding a good man or finding a good job.
and it was a waste of money.
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Absolutely. Too much ink is about as unappealing as too much fat. It might even be worse. Whereas with fat it’s a sign of poor self control, lethargy, etc., several conspicuous tattoos on a woman (especially on the arms) is a sign of overall poor judgement, lack of foresight, a fundamental disconnect with her femininity (the short hair confirms), and a considerably higher likelihood of psycho-bitchiness.
I’ll also throw in that she probably has more than slight dominatrix tendencies and often expresses her ‘affection’ and attraction through physical aggression. I’ve been heavily immersed in punk-rock scenes throughout most of my life. Some of those chicks really like to flirt by punching and kicking you. It’s part of the female punk’s psyche: the need to compete with men, to be as aggressive as men, and to try to prove they can be as tough and cause just as much pain as a man. It gets old quick.
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that girl is a 5. who gives a shit what she needs.
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She has a fine face, cute, but she’s somewhat heavy under that apron and oh the tats. I am surprised she wasn’t doing better in the dating market, maybe the men are catching on to not raising another man’s child.
It says she never got benefits. Do you have to wait a long time for them in the UK? Here I think they come quickly, and there’s home heating assistance as well. Is welfare so scant in the UK that she fed her baby with a single cracker and didn’t heat her house? And if so, why wasn’t Child Protective Services swooping down to take her child to foster care?
Story doesn’t fit together. Most (all?) of these stories they push don’t.
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The fact that both the left and right are coming to the same conclusion as explained in the post (yes i know there are differences on both sides but the common interest is this case). The funnel of who the problem are to all American’s is becoming clear. The see now the urgency for the need to end Net Neutrality, and fast. The politics of distractions (gay rights, abortion, scandal, womanizing politicians) wont save them for long.
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Notice that despite the trouble Snowden would expect face, he still had relative trust he wouldn’t be whacked by a g-man. Snowden didn’t have balls to do what he did. He just looked around and realized not one government brown-noser would act outside of due process. Oui-la.
Slaves to our own ideal of justice. Justice is served.
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Wrong. Snowden is on the payroll of the Osama Regime and was sent out to divert attention from the IRS crimes committed against Osama’s political enemies. Remember, Snowden revealed the NSA stuff less than 48 hours after the IRS crimes were known. How else to explain his walking around without compunction in Russia and getting a well-paying job within six weeks, even though he speaks not a word of Russian? Stop going along with the gaystream media narrative: Snowden is a plant.
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I don’t think so. Snowden seems to be CIA, and CIA seems to be pissed that the NSA is getting all the public largesse. I don’t think it is really much more complicated than that.
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Only following orders…
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Meh, articles like these are mostly FUD, but it takes a certain level of understanding of (boring, beta, nerd) topics like encryption and general computer security to understand why. I can’t see how this is particularly controversial either, given how even as we speak, various illegal online marketplaces, carders/bank account hackers, pedophile rings, and a host of other criminals of that ilk continue to congregate and operate more or less out in the open on the dark web. All of these guys are highly dependent on various anonymizing technologies backed by the power of cryptography to keep their identities concealed. If the powers that be could stop them, they would have by now. But they cannot. Now the day where they can will surely come, and it may even come soon (which will simply force the anonymizing technologies to improve in response, perpetuating the never ending game of cat and mouse), but as of this writing, there’s no reason to believe that that day has arrived.
I would even argue that if online anonymity is the goal and that you know what you’re doing, it’s even easier to conceal your tracks now than it was a few years ago, with Bitcoin/cryptocurrency now available to help you bypass the legacy payment systems.
tl;dr – The NSA: Strong, yes. Harry Potter, no.
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I think we may have a beta of the year candidate in this British newscaster.
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He says the banner was 2 1/2 feet by 130 feet long???
It looks like it is maybe 25 feet long at most.
But then again what else can we expect from white liberals?
Their minds are diseased.
They have an understanding of banner lengths that is about as good as they understand the racial replacement situation that people like them have created for the white race.
Denying what is happening to the white race and to Western Civilization is like denying that alcohol causes drunkenness.
White liberals such as those two are repulsive messed up in the head pieces of shit.
They are traitors of the worst kind.
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The filter ate my previous comment.
They say the banner is 2 1/2 by 130 feet long, it looks like it is at most about 20 feet long, not 130.
Those two white liberals have an understanding of measures of lenght as good as their understanding of race replacement.
Their liberal minds are diseased.
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Yeah, it’s not 52 times as long as it is high, in case they didn’t notice.
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I have to hand it to whoever did that. How many people read it?
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Also, consider that England has over a million Pakistanis now…
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Gads, that’s both awful and likely God’s honest truth. The last time I was in London, around 2009, there were entire segments that looked, smelled and seemed like something out of a middle east set in an Indiana Jones movie. While I understand ethnic enclaves in any major city, this one seemed to go on, and on, and on, and on. Chinatown in Frisco couldn’t hold a candle to this “enclave” in size and scope.
To this day I breath a word of silent thanks that my grandparents (both sides) left Airstrip One in the mid 20th century before things went so far south. Can’t imagine trying to cut it in London (mum’s side) or Inverness, Scotland (pop) these days as a tall, aggressive, individualistic white male. I’d be slaughtered by the Paki hordes or arrested by the effeminate bobbies and put into the clink in short order.
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Stahlgewitter’s newest album Das Hohelied der Herkunft removed from youtube.
End- und sinnlos debattieren,
Volkes Willen ignorieren,
fremde Kriege finanzieren,
Nationalisten schikanieren,
wahre Probleme ignorieren
und sich selber inszenieren.
Fette Diäten abkassieren
und immer noch nach mehr Geld gieren.
Ihre Politik – Ein Schweinestall.
Deutschland – Ein Sanierungsfall.
Ihre Politik – Ein Schweinestall.
Deutschland – Ein Sanierungsfall.
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The German Government likely caused this as the lyrics don’t hate on anyone except the current political system. They have a banned list of groups and their stuff automatically gets pulled. Pretty much every German would agree with these lyrics.
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My mouth is agape. With names like “Bullrun” and “Manassas” for these programs, NSA is now (inadvertently) telling us they consider themselves to be battling a civil war… with the citizens of the United States.
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It’s almost like the United States has a secret “royal family”, to use the term loosely, and they are becoming more and more uneasy at the prospect of a peasant uprising.
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Yes, this is correct. There’s a globalist elite trying to build a global government who see the masses (especially non-elite White men) as the greatest threat to the plan. Here’s a good article on the globalist elites.
http://beforeitsnews.com/power-elite/2013/03/globalists-concentrated-in-4-cities-ny-dc-london-hollywood-2441680.html
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Someone’s pulling some strings there.
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Most people only see something funny in that, they don’t realize that it is evidence that the main stream media are all controlled by the same small group, that they are told what to say and that they do what they are told like mindless little robots.
When they are told to bash a right wing person or even tell a lie about a right wing person, they all follow orders and they all do it like mindless little robots.
When they are told to embellish a story or even lie to make a left wing person look good, they all follow orders and they all do it like mindless little robots.
When they are told to lie about Zimmerman to make him look like a white racist and to lie about Trayvon to make him look like a victim of white man’s racism, they all do it, they all follow orders like mindless little robots.
When they are told to ignore the latest shocking thing the Obama administration has done ( Benghazi, using the IRS to persecute those who oppose Obama etc etc ) they do it like mindless little robots
when they are told to put in high rotation anything that may make right wing people look bad they do it like mindless little robots ( I posted a link a couple days ago showing that the MSM devoted about 20 or 30 more time on Christie’s traffic jam “scandal” than on Obama using the IRS to intimidate and persecute people who oppose him)
The main stream media is controlled by the left, there is no news anymore, there are only left-approved messages to brainwash us into becoming more docile sheep.
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Boomer, ur getting closer
Read all of this :
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
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This isn’t as nefarious as you would believe. Certain news segments are farmed out to independent media outlets, in this case being “consumer report” I believe, and the dipshits on local newscast just read the copy verbatim. A lot of the general interest content is provided this way. They are bought as a service from a number of providers.
I used to cram a broad at ASU that worked an internship at channel 3 here in Phoenix. Part of her gig was transferring the content to the prompter and getting the canned video content (also provided by the independent source) to the producer.
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Looks like they still get the odd bug in the matrix program
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They are the Praetorian guard of the United State. Another similarity to the US and Rome. After murdering Pertinax, an emperor whom they feared would make real changes to their power, they carried his head on a lance through Rome and displayed it at their fort.
Finally:
…the Praetorians, apprehensive that, in this private contract, they should not obtain a just price for so valuable a commodity, ran out upon the ramparts; and, with a loud voice, proclaimed that the Roman world was to be disposed of to the best bidder by public auction.
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I’ve never understood why the conservative types care so much about this. Social climate in the West is leading your civilization to cliff’s edge, privacy is just not that important. The average person is too obscure to be concerned with. Focus your efforts on leftist dogma and enforcing your identities.
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Privacy is quite important to liberty actually. That said, the majority of privacy invasion is carried out with the consent of the violated, via social media and electronic banking, so in a sense you’re correct, at least in the context of its relevance to the average person.
But to truly independent freedom minded folk, privacy is quite important. The beauty is that it takes very little to drop off the radar, if one is not totally feminized into believing that they “need” convenience and social media at every turn.
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THE ART OF WAR
“never fight on two fronts at the same time”
The Straight, White, Christian, Male is under attack on four.
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Then you have to prioritize the threats and take them out one at a time.
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A good way to sort out the loyalty heirarchy:
Question for Christians: If restricted to the following two choices, would I chose my great-grandchildren to be 1. Christian mulattoes 2. White atheist/Pagans
Question for atheists/Pagans: If restricted to the following two choices, would I chose my great-grandchildren to be 1. Atheist/Pagan mulattoes 2. White Christians
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2.
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You can convert an Atheist into a Religious person or convert a Religious person into an Atheist but you can not convert a colored into a white.
I will go with white in all cases.
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Then the focus should be on the one facet that is viewed by our masters as the most dangerous and inexcusable: race. Get white americans to refer to themselves as such and act in accordance with their shared interests and there will be no need to address the others.
The failed artist with the goofy lip pubes was right when he said: “Race is all that matters, everything else is bunk.”
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Are atheist/Pagan White straight men and women who are loyal to White straight people your enemies or allies?
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Allies.
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“Are atheist/Pagan White straight men and women who are loyal to white straight people your enemies or allies”
I wouldn’t consider anyone making the personal choice to be an atheist as an enemy.
But I do believe that the more atheism becomes embedded into the psyche of western civilisation, the easier it is for the warped ideologies of our opponents to flourish.
“Show me a man who believes in nothing and I’ll show you a man who’ll believe in anything” G. k. Chesterton.
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This is a good place to start.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm
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This is a rather interesting chart of the three main religions of Abraham– J- ism, Christianity and Islam comparing their beliefs about the End Times. Notice where they disagree they are often complimentary in their outcomes. There is a high degree of correlation with the modern dispensationalist accounts for the End Times. The Muslims also believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah and that they must convert us in order to save us. Muslim power will be projected from Persia. Christians believe the same in reverse. J believes only they will be saved.
http://www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/eschatology.php
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” Its adherents are clever, angry white men patiently awaiting the collapse of civilisation, and a return to some kind of futuristic, ethno-centric feudalism.”
Since the tweet is relevant here: One thing white people needed less of was fascism. A long winter was authoritarian without remorse. All a tribal leader would do is amplify the nature already bred into the society to follow a consistent plan of cooperation. Its ironic that the European invention is being criticized by Europeans when , for the most part, democracies work on a small scale.
Our European liberalism is what is particularly destroying the blacks. Blacks need authoritarianism. They even began to thrive in a sweet spot from slavery(too authoritarian) into a functional “lower class” in the 40s and 50s. In modern times, the urban black has no access to the natural wealth and has little access into the labor economy. The tribalism(called gangs) financed by drugs, that keep trying to develop are constantly decapitated as the gang leadership is constantly liquidated. This leaves the black areas in perpetual chaos, unpoliced at the lower levels while the only policing force is crushed as a “drug gang”.
One size just does not fit all. Has nothing to do with hate, or intolerance. It just is.
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Not entirely off-topic, via G. L. Piggy:
Hit-piece on the ‘Dark Enlightenment’.
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Very interesting. I’ve been saying for years that we’re headed for civil war.
In addition to using hi-tech weapons such as drones, the power elites will also use ‘boots on the ground’, i.e., mobilizing blacks, Muslims, and mercenaries to assault white communities in street fighting.
Keep your eyes open, stay alert, and starting picking local targets.
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They are trying to embed their forces into the white neighborhoods to demoralize their enemy and weaken him.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/huds-new-fair-housing-rule-establishes-diversity-data-every-neighborhood-us
They are having some trouble pushing this agenda forward though. They suffered significant electoral setbacks in local elections last November in areas they were trying to soften up.
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CIA-NSA ??? who staffs the NSA and the “security complex” ???
-Anglo Saxons – Bush/Cheney/Gates
-Scotch Irish – Clapper
-Irish – Brennan
Northern Europeans of the Barbarian type – i.e. genetic recessive Neanderthal hybrids – most likely have a genetic tendency towards sociopathy.
These are the people who annihilated Indians at Plymouth after being saved from starvation and cannibalism by said Indians. These are the folks who have made their fortune – slave trading Negroes, trafficking Opium, ethnic cleansing the US of A. Heck – they even try to ethnic cleanse Ireland a few time.
We are dealing with SOCIOPATHS. Sick fucks who want to legalize:
– sexual abuse of your granny – in order to touch/smell her panties-
-torture – i.e. take civilization back to Medieval times
– Abu Gharaib
-Guantanamo
-removal of all rule of law
Why are Euros of the Norhern type so power hungry ???? what cause the sociopathy – ……..must be genetic.
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Are you saying the Irish tried to ethnic cleanse Ireland? What are you talking about specifically?
And I thought the slave trade was Jewish.
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Pardon me, Miss, but I couldn’t help noticing that your anti-White petticoat is showing. I know that it’s indelicate of me to pass comment, but such a glaring display is really quite vulgar, and you’re embarrassing yourself and everyone watching. Please be so kind as to shut the fuck up. Thanks awfully.
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War on Terror (a.k.a. invade the world; invite the world) is a scam.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/resources/2014JanLetterPepper.pdf
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Thank you. I have to remind myself even I didn’t look into it until last year or so – otherwise, I get angry at people’s blind ignorance.
I guess I was afraid…There was and is reason to be, of course.
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“I shall rather move to a country that makes no pretense of loving liberty – Russia for instance – where I can take my despotism pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”
– Abraham Lincoln
I wonder if Lincoln knew how inspiring his words would be 150 years later for a certain former government employee named Snowden…
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Yeah old Abe knew a thing or three about despotism.
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Anyone still claiming Islamic fundamentalists were behind the September Eleventh attacks are trolls and should be banned from posting on this blog.
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You mean random office fires won’t explode two steel framed buildings and drop a third tidily in it’s own footprint?
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…tidily at essentially free-fall speed
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I can’t prove who did it. I don’t know (exactly) who did it. I only know that controlled-demolishing 3 buildings is inconsistent with any theory solely involving towelheads. And the burden of proof is on those who blame. Consistent with such ridiculous theories, ridiculous not only because of obvious controlled demolition of buildings but countless other inconsistencies and extreme implausibilites like a passport surviving the twin tower wreckage but no black boxes from the planes, unaltered plane boarding and/or security videos showing hijackers, CONTIGUOUS WITH THE OTHER PASSENGERS going through security and boarding with timestamps not tampered with for flights 11, 77, 93 and 175 must exist if the perpetrators or accessories after the fact didn’t destroy them. WHERE ARE THE VIDEOS? Show them or STFU.
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This site has been a breath of fresh air since my divorce. Thank you so much for introducing me to the red pill.
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Welcome, we have much we can learn from each other.
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when you realize we all have the tendency to resonate at debased wavelengths these types of power grabs become far less appalling
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We’ve been hypnotised. Not less appalling but rather less appalled.
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That article is such vague blather the NSA must have written it. Still, best to assume all US tech companies are extensions of the US government.
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Don’t know if it’s been posted, but…
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/01/sperm-smugglers-score-victory-gaza-201411912315567823.html
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Lol at all the hysterics in this thread, with the Pièce de résistance being Matt’s laborious reaction to Zombie Shane.
To think a system designed for political (both in business and politics) blackmail of power brokers would elicit so much hand wringing from the common folk.
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My mouth is agape. With names like “Bullrun” and “Manassas” for these programs, NSA is now (inadvertently) telling us they consider themselves to be battling a civil war… with the citizens of the United States.
Meh. Could be, I guess. More likely it’s paranoia, and that the person doing the naming is a civil war history buff. I used to name projects after WW I battles, and I don’t consider myself battling a world war with “the citizens of the United States”.
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Of course it’s tyranny. Some of us have been noticing the impending tyranny since long before the WWW started to lift it’s head into the public light in the mid 1990’s, and we noticed that both parties were happily participating. Nobody listened. We were mocked, ridiculed, called unpatriotic, told that we were crackpots (not a conspiracy theorist type, but an actual crackpot for suggesting the government wants to control most every aspect of our lives).
Time has passed.
Here we are.
And it’s going to get worse.
Limbaugh has his good and bad points, and I generally don’t take the man seriously in about half of what he says, but he has coined a correct term for what we’re at right now – soft tyranny. It’s perfect. We get to keep the trappings and surroundings of what was once a free nation, we still sing the national anthem, we still fly the flag, we still eat hot dogs and apple pie, but something significant has changed.
Officer Friendly has become a mindless LEO (a term that didn’t exist prior to the 1980’s) abuse-bot that will brain you with his club, tazer or S&W .40 at the slightest provocation. He will get off scott free even if the entire encounter is filmed on dash cam, assuming the video doesn’t disappear before trial. You are forbidden to exercise your 4th amendment rights and have privacy in any meaningful sense if you participate in public life. Massive blanket surveillance exists in every aspect of life that involves the movement of atoms across copper. If you wish to travel via airplane you are not only forced by government to withstand warantless searches of your persons, you are humiliated and subjected to Orwellian prodding, scanning and cavity searches if you look even remotely suspicious (say, for example, you look like a hot chick, then clearly you’re a terrorist that needs a good feel up). The agents of the state have become openly mocking and sneer at us daily.
Government controls every single scrap of ground with regulations, rules and laws, especially if you dare…DARE…to go out and try to make money or make a better life for yourself in a self started business. Every single damned facet of your life is now regulated, ruled, monitored and reported through a huge and growing bureaucracy. On top of that the amount of debt taken on your behalf, without your consent, is beyond the ability of all existing and future human beings on the planet to pay off, and guess what…the debtors want their money regardless.
We invade nations now without them attacking us first, placing us squarely back into the non-exceptional realm of every other nation in history. We’ve taken up as a matter of course the acceptance of torture and midnight warantless raids that descend and depart, sweeping away citizens to parts unknown without charges being filed, indefinitely. Our politicians smugly dictate how others in foreign lands will live and exist, we “bring democracy” in the form of degeneracy and feminism at the point of a gun to cultures that despise us, and we do so while singing “I’m Proud To Be An American!”. Our culture has placed the uniform agent of the state at the epicenter of public worship, and no holiday or event passes without a constant barrage of uniform worship and slavish bowing to the state and its servants. Our colleges now inculcate canonical Marxism as delivered wisdom, collectivism is being normalized and men, manliness and masculine rugged individualism are being stamped out under the hard iron and high heeled boot of the feminine imperative.
And every single one of these things are happening to the cheers and applause of at least half the nation at any given time, regardless of which faux “party” is in power.
There are a handful of resistance movements afoot to counter these things, but their chance of success is sketchy at best. The manosphere has popped up as a reaction against the feminization of culture the last few years, and here there is some measure of promise, for it is in reclaiming our manliness that we can learn to stand and fight this tyranny, if we dare. If only we can learn to apply the same zeal to overthrowing the tyrants as we do to bedding pussy we’d conquer the world. The problem here is apathy or disdain for anything except “the golden pussy” even if it means that the world burns in a nuclear Armageddon; a problem that has to be addressed I think.
We also have a rapidly growing and open arming up of individualist minded men and women, with concealed carry of firearms becoming the norm for a growing majority in many states, and open carry of firearms seeing more light of day as an open defiance of the majority culture. Nothing spits directly in the face of the pudgy fat acceptance shrill Big Sister like a free man carrying a sidearm on his hip, proudly, in the public sphere.
Electronic currencies (Bitcoin et. al) are starting to gain traction, which is ripe for creating a tax free underground marketplace. Onion routing is starting to peek out of the holes of geekdom as a way to avoid some level of monitoring (TOR).
Men are dropping out of the tax base of the feminist tyranny and going their own way. IF there is a philosophy behind this, then we have the seeds of victory that we need only plant and harvest. If there is no philosophy behind this then one hopes that the manosphere reaches out and nets these young men and gives them one.
Time will tell where we end up. As it stands the feminine imperative is strong and growing fond of using physical force against dissident rebels and non-conformists. We can win this fight, but it’s going to take work, and it’s going to take more than figuring out “text game” on the chick at the club. It’s going to take more than sitting at a computer. If we can combine and KEEP the PUA of the manosphere, and create/expand the political side of manliness to inspire rebellion and resistance, then we’ll be on the surest path to victory that we have available under the circumstances.
So yes, this is tyranny. And I ask…so what are you going to do about it?
Slainte
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Hey man, what you said was awesome.
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Poetry… Comment of the Week, IMHO. You nailed it brah.
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Read between the lines
Ex husband.
The novela plot.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/21/3883118/venezuelas-president-blames-telenovelas.html
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I sometimes wonder if some of these things are just a form of Psy-Ops. Just scare the layman enough that they think they can do nothing to protect themselves from the criminals at the NSA so they won’t bother.
Also, the NSA could use that kind of image they built up to fabricate evidence against people – they can pretty much claim they lifted incriminating e-mails or worse kiddy porn or whatever off someone’s computer. As long as it’s credible enough that the NSA is capable of getting that data what would stop them?
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You’re right to doubt their claims. I used to work in military intelligence, a lot of what passes as gospel in the public realm is actually fantasy used precisely for what you indicate. There is really no way possible, as of yet, that they can even remotely pretend to have cracked secure public key encryption, as that would take the combined computing power of the planet today, with an algorithmic growth rate calculated into it, an estimated 6 billion years to do, give or take a billion years. They’re bluffing on that count I’m certain. Quantum computing is still a lab geeks wet dream, and will be for a long while yet, despite their snarky claims to the contrary. If they crack encryption it’s always the result of a) they planted a back door in the program, ergo, always use public domain encryption that comes with compilable source code or b) they compelled a person to give up his password through threats or force. In meatworld that’s known as rubber hose cryptanalysis.
That said, there are things that they can and will do, such as massive data collection across the internet (non-encrypted) as well as phone monitoring, etc.
They’ve built up a pretty convincing image of their “strength” by utilizing the Mainstream Propaganda…er…Media/entertainment complex. Any cop show (aren’t they all cops shows now, if they’re not reality show dreck?) will have the cops exercising what seem to be amazing super high tech super-powers, where in real life their actual method of capturing criminals are either direct observation OR tricking the suspect into talking. That’s it. All the high tech super weenie stuff is usually ancillary at best, outside of DNA testing. They’re faking it, and they want you to buy the myth of their super-power invincibility.
Example: here in Columbus, Ohio a few years back a sniper was firing at cars off of a handful of overpasses. The cops knew the overpasses. The guy was rather active, not a slacker in the snipe-at-cars department. It took them 7 damn months to capture him. With all their high tech super-powers they were clinically incompetent and unable to capture a guy firing off of a handful of known overpasses for that long.
Good instincts you have there.
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That was an interesting thread. Jesuit papists of doom – ha ha ha – I gotta get a cut of that action.
Second the observation on child-centered sexual deviancy and the western european men in power. [a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais”]A long history for that one.[/a]
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A long history for that one.
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Tyranny is believing government can grant you freedom.
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“rubber hose cryptanalysis”
KGB is the heart of the country! That beats! … and beats … and beats … and beats
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By now everybody knows there is no terrorist threat (apart from the false flags perpetrated by Jews/Mossad). Jews did 9/11. That is not in dispute. That is unassailable. That is non-debatable. THAT IS NON-NEGOTIABLE. Refer to Christopher Bollyn’s “Solving 9/11”, and the “9/11 Missing Links” video.
So there is no real purpose for the Jewish NSA. Unless you include in its purpose the complete annihilation and eventual extinction of the White race, then sure it has a purpose. And we know this is the Jew goal.
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Reblogged this on et tu, Bluto?.
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