Asshole Game is one of the best and fastest methods for stimulating attraction in women. But its raw power tempts risky overuse. There are assholes who overplay their hand, and lose the girl. Women are romantically dichotomous creatures, at once lured by the aloof asshole as by the wooing beta. This dichotomy exists because women procreatively require both the seed of a proven quantity alpha male and the provisions of a proven investor beta male. The tension of the female dichotomy is never more apparent than when she’s at that precarious six-month stage of a relationship with an intoxicating alpha male, and she’s starting to fret about a dearth of romantic gestures from him that would allay her fear of abandonment.
Wise players understand this womanly war with herself, and tailor their game to satisfy her dueling needs, (or until such time that the player becomes restless for new conquests).
However, asshole game is SO powerful, that even overuse doesn’t automatically kill a budding relationship dead like beta supplication kills it flat out. Hence, the nuance quotes around “backfire” in the post title.
For an example of what I’m talking about, read what this reader passes along,
I’ve been devouring your archives these last two weeks. Great stuff that has really been life changing at my tender age of 19. I was never a complete beta, but I did not have an alpha attitude that I look to adopt now. I wanted to get your thoughts on a text thing that I’ve taken to. In the same vein of “gay” and “…”, I offer up “haaaaaaaa”. With as many A’s as you want. Recent example from an old ex texting me the other night, after a missed phone call from her at 11:30 on a Thursday.
ex: why didn’t you answer
me: i’m out
ex: i need to talk to you
(30 minutes later)
ex: actually forget it. go fuck yourself asshole.
me: haaaaaaaaa
ex: seriously?
ex: you’re immature as fuck
(hour later)
ex: are you home yet?Thoughts?
My thoughts are this is classic aloof asshole game, and her reaction indicates that it’s working on her. How do we know she continues to dream about you pounding her out? Because she’s responding. Not only responding, but initiating contact. Her words may sound resentful, but the fact that she bothers to express herself against your perceived indifference is all the evidence you need she can’t stop thinking about you. Women who are truly uninterested in a man show it by not showing anything at all — they tend to vanish in a quickly evaporating mist of curt goodbyes.
To the average culturally medicated passerby, it reads like your ex is really angry with you and that romance is the last thing on her mind. But to those with experience in the dating trenches, her indignation is a major tell. A woman’s emotional outpouring, good or bad, is reserved for men who matter to her.
Did this reader’s asshole game straddle the line between puppeteer of poon and jettisoned jerk? Perhaps. But there’s something you should know about assholes and their unusual pull on women. Beta suck-ups are rejected before they even know where they went wrong; an asshole can dump a quarry full of his toxic slurry into a woman’s heart and she’ll still leave the door to her pussy open a crack for him, based on nothing more than a slim hope he’ll redeem himself in her eyes.
Women give latitude to men with attitude, while earnest betas are swiftly disposed.
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In related news, the Napster-founding asshole with expertise in the art of vanishing has somehow managed to provoke the obsessed love and unthwarted womb receptivity of a model. Will wonders never cease?
Asshole game only “backfires” when you don’t amp it up enough.
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> “that precarious six-month stage of a relationship with an intoxicating alpha male, and she’s starting to fret about a dearth of romantic gestures from him that would allay her fear of abandonment. Wise players understand this womanly war with herself, and tailor their game to satisfy her dueling needs, (or until such time that the player becomes restless for new conquests).”
Y’all do Western Civilization a huge favor and, by the end of SIX MONTHS, either put a bun in the bitch’s oven, or else move your sorry poseur ass the hell on outta her life and let the poor woman find a TRUE ALPHA who will put a bun in her oven.
Western Civ thanks you in advance.
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lol ummm….
A true alpha will put a bun in her oven and leave….
[CH: The “alpha = bunned oven” equation was broken when cheap contraceptives became widely available.]
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That’s risky if she can find you. The state will make her try. They want you to pay to raise the kid, not them.
How do you deal with that? Serious question.
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Uh……..
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Well, I’ve learned a lot about these things in a very short amount of time.
And here’s the feeling I get — could be wrong, could be right…idk:
it’d be very easy for me to talk my way into getting them off bc and giving me a kid, and if I skipped out…..I get the sense that they wouldn’t try that hard to enforce the law against me. They’d bitch and moan to me, sure — if they could find me — but that’s about it.
But then again, all the girls I’ve been with so far have been decently intelligent and had decent jobs. I wouldn’t be with a girl if I had to pay for too much shit lol
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My plates are all scared to death I’ll impregnate them (although they’ll still let me rawdog them as much I want, even if they aren’t on birth control).
They simultaneously want a family/kids whilst professing to me they don’t want to be a single mom.
It’s amusing and sad at the same time. For what it’s worth, a sensible man does not let his plates know his last name.
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Why do you end every single statement with lol?
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Yes, all ghetto nigs are true alphas… You are a pretty smart half-breed scray so I will tell you like I told thwack, don’t post dumb shit that is beneath you.
Alpha is such an open statement that your blanket statement is non-sensical. We’ve dissected this 1000 times here I feel. There is “pussy alpha” AKA the alpha cad, who may indeed just bust into manifold women and father a small army. They are only alpha in their ability to trick dumb cunts into doing what they do best.
Then there is “true alpha” who has mastered his social sphere, probably livelihood sphere, and pussy sphere. Rarified air. Few ma’fuckas have the “trifecta”, the hat trick. But they do exist.
Then there is business alpha, who may be a master of the boardroom, but his wife still fucks Pedro poolside, on the daily.
You know all this, so me having to repeat it, is tiresome.
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I’ve begun thinking there’s more than one writer behind the “scray” persona. Lately he’s been all preachy and platitudinous. No more field reports, no more insights into the learning process. Just propaganda.
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most of wat I post now has to do with what I’ve learned in these relationships. Posted a little FR last week tho (meeting up with that chick tonight….she better put out). I’m in the middle of a plateau….like, within the 6-7 range I can pull consistently. It’s just harder to get the 8’s and above. Wicked hard.
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Matt – I have come to think that Scray is just a troll. Look how many times he posted in this thread ALONE.
He comes here, whines that he is a short crybaby beta that cannot get girls, spams the forums with his dumb posts (typical of the nigger he is), posts as if he is some kind of authority on women, then tries to act all tough when he is criticized.
Has to be a joke. Nobody can be this pathetic and delusional.
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Just testing something…
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Max, what you observe is true, but it points more at my conclusion than yours. How many trolls have the patience to create a narrative?
I’ve seen similar shifts in persona and aim from a commenter on my own blog that I’m fairly sure was a plant.
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Ya….it was a joke.
I think I’m gonna stick to doing whatever the fuck I want, tho.
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There is no distinction between your “jokes” and your absurd thoughts. Don’t backpedal because you are embarrassed.
Quit spamming the forums with your stupidity, nigger.
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[CH: The “alpha = bunned oven” equation was broken when cheap contraceptives became widely available.]Pharmaceutical convenience does not dictate what constitutes alpha. Willfulness does. If your life is defined around slut-enabling sterility pills, you are not a man.
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I don’t think that Heartiste is disagreeing with you.
Or me either, for that matter.
My point would be that six months is a pretty good yardstick by which to gauge your feelings for the chick.
If, at the end of six months, you still get that hopeful cheery optimistic feeling at the thought of swinging by her place for a late night booty call, then up the ante, and order her [not ask her, but ORDER HER] to get off the damned birth control once and for all.
Conversely, if, at the end of six months, you’re thinking to yourself, “Good God, I really don’t wanna go see that boring old dish rag of a nagging damned hag, but I suppose I ought to gift her with a mercy fuck just so that she won’t start cheating on me,” then it’s high time to move on and give the poor girl the freedom to start anew with another dude who might see fit to give her children.
Bottom Line: No white children = no future for Western Civilization.
Either you make ’em, or else step aside in favor of some other dude who will.
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I agree with the Zombie.
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Matt King agrees with Scray, what a shocker.
Matt King – a beta Jesus-freak white-knighting every girl online and whose posts include thesaurus-fueled non-sense (google Matt King banned)
Scray – a self-admitted nigger and short crybaby beta with a Napoleon Complex, whose quality posts included sending men smiley faces and imagining them in homoerotic fantasies of his
The similarities are uncanny…. lolzolzozlzolzozlzolz
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A “true alpha” who puts “a bun in her oven” and leaves produces fucked-up progeny like Ronan Farrow, leaving boys to the devices of damaged single moms who revenge themselves on his offspring. It’s the recipe for omega production.
A would-be beta who would otherwise turn out well-adjusted and productive becomes a useless omega. An alpha without a father is a nígger and/or a faggot.
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He sure looks a lot more like Frank Sinatra than Woody Allen.
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Please support your contention that a white boy raised by a single mother will become a faggot.
It’s better for all kids to grow up in complete families. But it’s better to have babies who didn’t have all the advantages, than no babies at all.
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CH, no need to educate the resident nigger shit-poster known as Scray. Waste of time.
He is a self-admitted short beta crybaby that has trouble getting girls, and he spams here constantly with his absurd remarks (as above) in a thinly veiled attempt to soothe his insecurities and Napoleon Complex.
When he is corrected or this is pointed out, he will deflect, squirm, and even type out homoerotic fantasies while sending men smiley faces.
Essentially, he is CH’s very own Pajama Boy, yet stupider and even more flaming. And with a skin color as dark as the rims of his glasses.
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….obsessed much? lol
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“When he is corrected or this is pointed out, he will deflect, squirm…”
Well, he did call it.
Scray, a tip: deflecting doesn’t mean people don’t notice how much you spam here constantly, or make your dumb posts (from an admitted beta dweeb such as yourself) like “alpha = bun in oven” any more valuable.
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LOL,
using another posters name in your title is the equivalent of wearing another guys name on the back of your jersey,
and then complaining about him.
It doesn’t get much more flacid than that.
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I used asshole game – used it so much I became indifferent. That’s where you can overuse it, to the point where YOU dont care anymore.
This is the current problem with my girl, in which case I’ll probably lose her.
But I don’t care.
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It’s good to reach a point where you don’t care about most girls. If you find a girl that you do care about, then you’ll know the difference. Then you’re caring because she’s better for you than the rest, not because she has a decent body and a vagina. That’s good!
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If you find a girl that you do care about, then you’ll know the difference.
False. Spoken as the beta you are. thrust is right— when you reach that critical tipping point, you REALLY don’t care at all, and it becomes a pathology.
I find myself here. I had a banging hot Eastern Euro bitch who was everything anyone could ever want. Good job, highly intelligent, thin & model hot, and the best sex I’ve had in a decade. What was wrong with her? Nothing really…
But I’ve become a bit of a husk, emotionally. So in a normal relationship I would have told her I loved her, and been right and honest in doing so. But I didn’t and I couldn’t fake it. After a long time, she realized this deficiency in me. But I still couldn’t bring myself to lie. I -should- have been in love with this marvelous specimen, and I probably was but never like I would have been a decade ago.
So we parted ways. I felt the loss acutely, even after a one year relationship. When it happened I realized I made a great mistake. That lasted for two weeks total. And I was only really fucked up for less than a week.
What a sad creature I’ve become where I can discard women most American men would literally die for, with no remorse. I still have some hope I can find redemption but I’m not sure exactly how.
Probably a 17 year old Latvian virgin with supermodel potential from a village? Dare to dream…
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You know what can change you. What is the telos of sex?
Put another way, why should you have any feelings for a woman you’re not planning to impregnate?
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> “Put another way, why should you have any feelings for a woman you’re not planning to impregnate?”
DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!
Thread winner.
Next thread.
PS: Jay in DC, don’t ask her, “Honey, do you want to have kids?”
Instead, just inform her.
Walk right up to her, stare her square in the eyes, and tell her, “Stop taking the birth control. And tell me when you’re ovulating again. I’ll be there two or three days beforehand, so plan for a long weekend.”
Just let her know that this is her new reality, and turn around and walk away.
Then come back three weeks later, a few days before she ovulates, with something like Taurus the Judge in a 3″ firing chamber, and some Federal Premium 410 Handgun ammo, just in case you have to chase a Russian Mafia gangsta out of her apartment:
http://www.410handguns.com/410_gel_results.html
But asking her, “Honey, do you want to have kids?”, is unter-beta supplication.
It’s getting down around gamma territory.
It is imperative that you ORDER her to have children with you.
And then get busy actually MAKING the children with her.
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Well said, sir.
I had such a woman once, betrothed to me. She was a virgin, 18, and would have been faithful to me, and a good mom. One day, I had a conscience appear out of nowhere, and I ended things with her out of guilt due to the other women I was seeing at the time.
I saw her again, 10 years later. She’s still the same, nice girl, albeit 28, not 18. But I don’t want her anymore, and I am glad I am not bound to her with the chains of marriage and shared children.
And the fact is, I don’t want any other woman any more than I ever wanted her. The fact any other woman considers she could ever be worthy is a point of amusement for me.
I do suspect I will foster/adopt again some day, though. Taking care of kids is a life-giving experience.
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Zombie, I hope you’re right about the way that Jay can feel better about communicating what he wants, or convincing himself that he wants it being so uber-alpha, or whatever.
I think it’s acceptable to know that the woman wants kids and then agree on it. All you childless uber alphas out there can assign all the greek letters you want to it, but in a LTR, I’ve never known anyone to be 100% alpha.
Let me propose a new situational definition of alpha for those of us who are capable of doing more than one thing in life. Alpha is when you are communicating with the girl’s pussy. Beta is when you are communicating with her brain. Gamma is when you are just generating revulsion in place of communication.
In this context, the mutual decision to marry and have kids demands agreement of both brains and genitals. It’s something that’s got to hold together for the long haul. Belt and suspenders. If you’re going to plant a bun in the oven then leave (a strategy that makes some sense given the hazardous legal environment for men) then the brain part is not needed in the same way.
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CH could you please stop blocking my replies here?
It’s acceptable to know that the woman wants kids and then agree on it. All you childless uber alphas out there can assign all the greek letters you want to it, but in a LTR, I’ve never known anyone to be 100% alpha.
Good LTR material will generally want kids. So it’s not some big surprising decision.
Let me propose a new situational definition of alpha for those of us who are capable of doing more than one thing in life. Alpha is when you are communicating with the girl’s pussy. Beta is when you are communicating with her brain. Gamma is when you are just generating revulsion in place of communication.
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“What a sad creature I’ve become where I can discard women most American men would literally die for, with no remorse. I still have some hope I can find redemption but I’m not sure exactly how. ”
This makes me sad. I broke up with someone who was exactly like you described yourself, for the same reasons. Guys like you are kryptonite to me (and probably most girls). But I think the fact that you sense that something might be missing from your life shows that love is possible for you… and it’s a matter of the right girl, and maybe the right timing.
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Nekkid pics for Big Jay or get the fuck out.
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Hey Amy,
Some of us already did the marriage/kids thing. After losing a kid and then losing the wife in the resultant grief, one realises that, indeed, one eventually will lose everything, including his own life.
Love is possible — in fact, I indulge it freely — but I don’t pin my hope and happiness on a girl sticking around with me for the long term.
And that, right there, is what drives you girls nuts. You want guys like me, but you want to know we’ll be shattered and destroyed when you leave us. And we will simply never acquiesce to being like that.
The only girl for whom my heart is still shattered and broken is the daughter I lost. And she is the only girl who will ever stake such a claim to my heart.
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Love is in the air…
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Aaron, I’m so sorry for your loss. I was referring to the inability to love, not unwillingness to marry or have kids.
“Love is possible — in fact, I indulge it freely — but I don’t pin my hope and happiness on a girl sticking around with me for the long term.”
That’s all I’m talking about. You can love someone without experiencing complete devastation if she leaves you. You’re right, we want to be special and feel like you’ll fall apart if we go, but we don’t want the kind of man who actually would fall apart. Romantic love, unlike parent-child love, is always conditional on something so a strong man knows not to lose himself in it.
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Amy, filthy mudshark, you are one of the worst posters on this site. CH has corrected your solipsism many times, and even threatened to temporarily ban you for your NAWALT stupidity.
You are a thug-loving old hag that had chased the cock carousel of badboys her entire life. You admitted to working at a prison, and to even dating a felon. You have been spreading your legs for the blights of society – like Jamal 6’7 fresh off the boat – for your entire wretched existence since age 14.
You know nothing of romance and love, and kindly walk off a cliff. Thanks.
Oh yes, you also are fat, and you told other posters that called you a fat mudshark that your military father would “crack their skulls with his bare hands”, lol. Joke.
P.S. Your dumb gravatar picture shows your fat neck from an angle as if you were getting your fetid pussy fucked from behind. Typical of a whore.
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Love is in the air…
Sorry Matt, wasn’t trying to horn in to your online harem. I even offered RD a night of blatant assholery with some mild choking farther down. Desperate times indeed…
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Notice the gravatar above mine. Notice some other gravatars with different names.
Still unsure why he isn’t banned yet…
Me too. You are getting realllllly sloppy nigga. Follow ups to your own followups?
Seek therapy.
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Hey guys, I wanted to let you all know I am a dimwitted blue-collar worker that worked as a lifeguard that is obviously too dumb to understand how bad I look white-knighting, on this website of all places, a mudshark whore that rode the cock carousel of thugs. Waah waaah please ban the guy from posting hateful words toward my online crushes.
Amy, if I keep defending you, will I get a drop of the old fetid pussy you willingly gave so freely to thugs and felons? I am just so desperate.
(Ignore my previous flirting with RD, another old divorcee shemale).
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Jay, ironically, you have the same gravatar as the poster above you, “someone else”.
Gravatars are not a fool-proof method and not a sure differentiation.
Perhaps learn the facts before opening your mouth. But this isn’t the first time you’ve looked like a moron. You willingly choose to live in a city full of niggers.
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Jay in DC
Notice the gravatar above mine. Notice some other gravatars with different names.
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Yeah, different names but the same avatar. This foolishness needs to stop.
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Horn on in, horndog. Nothing warms my heart so much as seeing love blossom during le Guerre or Unser Kampf. A brief respite from the unrelenting temptation to bitterness.
Love in the Ruins (Walker Percy):
Matt
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Hey! Thanks for the offer and all, but I’m too busy cleaning the smell of your mom off my elbow right this minute. Soap didn’t work, vinegar didn’t work, now I’m moving on to soaking it in tomato juice. If this doesn’t work, I might have to amputate, because lemme tell you…yo mama one stinky muffin.
Peace and love,
RappaccinisDaughter
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Stupid asses… YES, I realize that the gravatar above mine was the same. That was me you fucking retards. I chose to live in nigger central because I was paid highly to deal with the worst of the worst and “regulate” (props Warren G) their black asses for fun and profit. But it gets old and wears on you. Now just for dumb ass sock puppetry– It still makes “Scray” a bannable offender for being a fucking Sybil, mutliple personality disorder (MPD), short negro fuck up. My advice? Disappear for a while and hope you don’t catch the banhammer you fucking weirdo…
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church, brother.
it’s not sad to me though, it’s merely the reality of understanding what is real.
A good deal of money will be paid for ignorance when the need for delusion is deep. nothing wrong with stoic pride. you are what you can kill right?
now what to teach my son….that’s a mindfuck. hopefully society crashes all together or gets better, because we wont bounce along the bottom forever.
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It could be worse. Rather than feeling no remorse, you could actually enjoy their teary-eyed admonitions that “you just don’t care!” when you break up.
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I think this is a common experience after unplugging and becoming “indifferent” to the results. Maybe xsplat’s approach is something to consider it seems to be working for him.
Also Family Man’s point might not have totally sunk in “If you find a girl that you do care about, then you’ll know the difference.” This doesn’t mean that you have to revert to beta 101 just that it might be worth keeping there is a big difference.
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Yeah, you certainly would not revert to beta with a girl you want to keep. You would just keep her.
Game will get you the pussy. If you like the pussy and also want the mind, that in my personal opinion is a keeper. (Those who think it’s beta to even acknowledge the possible existence of a mind in a female, call it what you want.) If you have children with her, they’ll inherit a lot of their intelligence or lack thereof from the mother.
Leadership is best when the leader knows when to vest responsibility and authority in others.
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Female mating strategy: fuck up and love down (alpha fux beta bux). Male mating strategy: fuck down and love up. Therefore, if you don’t love her (care), you are just fucking down. Go after higher quality targets.
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Scray, you seem to specialise in saying foolish things. A man should always consider himself more valuable than any woman, not the least of which being women he is putting his dick in. To do otherwise is to threaten his emotional well-being, and will eventually resign himself to sexless betahood.
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“Scray, you seem to specialize in saying foolish things.”
Ding, ding, ding. Thread winner!
I have been calling him out for being the nigger shit-poster that he is – a self-admitted short beta crybaby who cannot get girls – and who also spams here with his absurd remarks heavily due to his Napoleon Complex and insecurities with women.
Unfortunately, like the dumb chimp he is, he won’t take a hint, and will deflect any criticisms due to his sensitivity, and even send men smiley faces while wanting them to suck his dick in his homoerotic fantasies.
What a quality poster – cannot understand why he constantly posts exchanges with women where he crashes and burns.
Still unsure why he isn’t banned yet…
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“Most men can obtain a much more desirable mate if they are willing to invest and commit to a long-term relationship. Most women, in contrast, can obtain a much more reliable short-term mate with whom nothing but sex is exchanged.”
http://www.psy.cmu.edu/~rakison/bussandschmitt.pdf
That evo-psych is some foolish shit. I agree.
You’re confusing thought processes that are helpful in one’s personal interactions and dealings with objective reality.
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I tend to be an asshole with my plates since I don’t give a crap about losing any of them. Of course, this means they all want to stick with me.
Sometimes I even do a nice, romantic gesture out of the blue. I actually told a girl “I’m sorry” tonight for standing her up last night when I said I’d Skype with her so she could show me her boobies.
But I only say sorry when I don’t give a crap about losing the girl.
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Asshole game backfires when the male;
a) doesn’t have enough value to pull it off.
b) isn’t higher enough value in comparison to the female or at least in her perception of his value.
c) in addition to the value aspect, hasn’t yet made himself valuable enough to the female emotionally (banged her good and proper).
d) the female has too many other, better options, or at least perceived options.
Having said that, the astute use of asshole game acts to increase the males value as perceived by the female.
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If a girl gives me her number and when I call her, she doesn’t remember me; its straight up a-hole, do not pass go, no small talk game from that point on annus horribilis my tongue becomes the illest I rip her a new asshole so she knows that Im the realist.
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She’s pregnant.
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BOO-YAH!
Game Theory & The Manosphere FTW.
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ZS– I don’t disagree with your mantra. But query– Do you have children? Do you want children? Are you willing to walk your talk soon?
I.E. How many white babies are you willing to make for the cause?
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Yes and I intend to keep making em until my prostate swells up with cancer and I can’t ejaculate anymore.
At which point I’ll switch over to artificial insemination.
PS: If you think that taking a dog for a walk in the park is a chick magnet, just wait until you start taking a HUMAN CHILD to the park with you.
Your ass is gonna be so covered in HB8/HB9/HB10 poontang, begging for their share of that sweet, sweet sweet Alpha dick action, that you’re gonna think that you’ve died and gone to Allah’s Heaven with the friggin 72 virgins.
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Oh, and you were a lifeguard, right?
Take a HUMAN CHILD to the swimming pool, and all the moms married to the beta losers will almost immediately start moving away from their husbands and gravitating towards a conversation with you.
And if the husbands aren’t even there with them? Fuhgeddaboudit!
It’s like a freaking miracle how half-naked chicks in bathing suits can sense which half-naked dudes in bathing suits are the Alphas.
An Alpha in a bathing suit with a young child in the swimming pool is some frigging completely irresistible catnip for the pussy.
But I’m such a nice guy that I feel sorry for the poor Beta husbands, and I’d much rather teach* them how to Man Up with Game Theory than actually cuckhold them.
*And thereby do what I can to try to save Western Civilization.
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Yes and I intend to keep making em until my prostate swells up with cancer and I can’t ejaculate anymore.
At which point I’ll switch over to artificial insemination
My LULZ for today… hilarity.
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“Your ass is gonna be so covered in HB8/HB9/HB10 poontang, begging for their share of that sweet, sweet sweet Alpha dick action, that you’re gonna think that you’ve died and gone to Allah’s Heaven with the friggin 72 virgins.”
it’s actually true lol.
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It actually is. I miss having someone else’s baby to tote around.
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My thoughts are look at the situation —- she is your ex-girlfriend. You’ve already boned her. So, what’s good here is that you’re remaining a challenge — maintaining the attraction.
Most of the stuff in this vein is actually better suited to relationship game, tbh. The emojis, the ‘gay,’ etc. That’s all good for maintaining the spark.
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Sometimes how open she is to assholes depends on how many supplicating betas she has had to deal with. A woman who hasn’t been pawed over by many betas isn’t as open to assholes, whereas a women who is used to constantly being around sniveling betas will find an asshole refreshing and honest.
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Nah. Has nothing to do with that. Asshole just correlates with other traits that DHV/generate attraction. If you distill it down to asshole you’re going to be fighting an uphill battle to generate attraction.
You could be the nicest guy in the world and still generate the same tingles if you possessed those other traits.
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> “You could be the nicest guy in the world and still generate the same tingles if you possessed those other traits.”
What women want is MASCULINITY.
They want a man with a SPINE.
They want RESOLVE and DETERMINATION and GRIT.
And above all else they do NOT want a push-over.
A wimp.
A loser.
They want Mr Queen’s English James Bond to be able to flip on a dime, and adopt a completely different posture, at the drop of a hat, and bust a cap in a nigger’s ass with his Walther PPK – if the situation requires it. And then flip right around again, and offer his arm back to her for the remainder of their evening stroll.
In theory, you can Game a woman perfectly well with nothing more than “Yes Ma’am” and “No Ma’am”.
And be total asshole while doing it.
Q: “Does this skirt make my butt look fat?”
A: “Yes Ma’am.”
Q: “Are you going to fuck me now?”
A: “No Ma’am.”
Your dialogue comes straight from Miss Manners herself, but you are still asshole gaming the bitch right through the frigging stratosphere.
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Ya this is tru. Strength is important. Assholes tend to have strength because…well, if you’ve been an asshole all your life, chances are you’ve had to develop a lot of strength. So a guy who’s 25-26 who started being a prick when he was 13 has a lot of those other traits handled. A guy who’s 25-26 who started being a prick at 24 probably won’t see a ton of difference. Now, he keeps being a chode for 6-7 years, then he’ll notice the difference.
It’s easiest to just ask yourself ‘if we were in the wild and it was just me…how would I protect those that I loved? How would I survive?’
Be honest.
If you’re honest with yourself, you will realize why everyone is not James Bond.
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> “If you’re honest with yourself, you will realize why everyone is not James Bond.”
Fake it ’til you make it.
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Fake it til you break it, more likely.
True confidence should come from accomplishment. Anything else will just boost your confidence for a while … until you run into the wall over and over again, because you never did anything to actually improve. Believing the people online who told you “You are the Prize!” etc. If confidence was the key to success with women I know several idiots who should be getting laid constantly. Instead they just make fool of themselves, embarrass themselves and gain a reputation that makes every woman in the bar turn away from them the moment they walk through the door. They faked it til they broke it.
I have never liked feel-good rules, whether it is “God loves you” or “all you need is confidence”. This “fake it til you make it” is a variation on the “all you need is confidence” thing people throw around in game sites. It sounds easy, no learning and no physical training needed, just “act like you have great value and women will think you do”.
It is so typical of today. It is like how kids are told in school how great they are – BEFORE doing anything to earn the praise. Then why improve, when you know you’re already great? And it’s like how kids in school get to vote on what textbook to use next year, or whether to learn grammar through a book or through subtitles to a show shown on the classroom TV. Because “your opinion is as good as anyone else’s”. (No it isn’t, only if you are right. If you are wrong, your opinion is worthless.)
Study shows: confidence does not improve ability:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/19/health/19mind.html?_r=2&ref=global-home&
Study shows students think they are better than ever – while test results have remained stagnant or actually decreased:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257715/Study-shows-college-students-think-theyre-special–read-write-barely-study.html
Don’t be part of the selfie generation. Don’t be a niggah. Build confidence on actual accomplishment.
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As long as you’re trying to be someone else, you’re just playing by their game and letting them set the standard.
Fake it til’ you make it is important….in Game 101.
Past that, it’s easy to see why some make it and some don’t. At first it’s good to have your rolemodels — James Bond, hey why not? But, if at some point you don’t grow and expand beyond that….you’re just going to get stuck in a rut. You have to take what works for you from your rolemodels. For some guys, they can ape like 90% of James Bond and call it a day. Most guys maybe can take like 5-10% and then need to move on/find better rolemodels.
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I’d say you are developing a new part of yourself. I would go further to say that if you feel wrong in adapting a persona in dealing with other people, including women, you are giving them too much credit.
They are not entitled to see your “real personality”. You are entitled to construct and present the personality you want them to see, and there’s nothing that says it has to be the same for all people.
As it happens James Bond works OK for me even though I never thought of myself that way. I’m even into tech and gadgets. As for the fighting and risking my life, I’ll skip that part without a single apology. I won’t do that for a chick or anyone else.
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Yes….but if you try to tell Mugsy Bogues to play basketball like Michael Jordan or Shaq….you are setting him up to fail lol. That’s all I’m saying. You have to find rolemodels who are like you but more successful.
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“like you but more successful” … that doesn’t feel like my approach. Or maybe it’s people who are more like me than I realize, but man I’m afraid of heights and I don’t have 1/10 of 007’s physique or looks. On the other hand, I am clever in some ways that don’t really come up for 007. I don’t think I’m much like James Bond.
I’ve been conscious of borrowing parts of my “personality” from others, and then with effort and often a bit of time, then they are automatically there as if they had been there from the beginning. This is what I was referring to. But the level of personality uptake needed to impress a girl for a couple hours is probably way less than what I am talking about. In fact she can be helping you practice without knowing it. The playful attitude will be the right one!
Only if she actually knows something about this will you get shit-tested seriously, and in that very unusual case maybe she’s someone to learn from rather than someone to fuck — or both.
If you want a more aggressive personality, you could take up MMA as some advocate here. To me that seems too hard and gosh, you could get hurt. You could just as well take some other model for behavior and adjust your style. For example, if you play tennis and you normally stand back on the baseline, try coming to the net more. Play like someone with a more aggressive personality. You can own that other personality. It really is a great feeling.
I’m ready to borrow personality parts from anyone I respect, or that has something I respect. I was recently respecting Richard Sherman in comments here. I’ll tell you this, I look a lot different from Richard Sherman.
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Ultimately, fake it til you make it works in the way Aristotle said: you must do the things that successful people do.
What builds the actual confidence are the experiences. You go out and you talk to girls — now, you realize that you are a guy who goes out and talks to girls (maybe he gets shot down, hey that’s ok). Then, from that you try to move things forward, like a guy who makes out with girls. And so on and so on. Are the experiences external? I don’t think so. It’s literally just putting yourself through so much shit….you’re making yourself into a combat veteran. Toughening your character.
That’s what people don’t realize. Yeah…STEP 1: ACT AS THOUGH….. and the next billion steps are putting yourself into some weird situations. Over and over again. Until you fucking learn how to be what you’re trying to be.
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> “As it happens James Bond works OK for me even though I never thought of myself that way. I’m even into tech and gadgets. As for the fighting and risking my life, I’ll skip that part without a single apology. I won’t do that for a chick or anyone else.”
Well then you’re gonna hafta fake the Stone Cold Killer attitude, because without it, you’re just another Beta herbling schlub loser wimp, who just happens to speak the Queen’s English.
Which puts you back at Square One: Fake it til you make it.
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Zombie, it’s a good thing that girls are easier to attract than you are. The goal is to get the pussy, not to escape your estimation of beta herbling-hood.
And it’s not necessary to fake stone-cold-killerhood. Maybe the reason I don’t have to is that I read Daoism, I practice a bit of qigong, etc. Tilikum just said that’s a substitute. I just know it helps me deal with life.
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Very true. The rule described above is definitely not a general rule.
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I suggest that asshole game, as in our case study above, must be parsimonious. Otherwise you’re just an asshole, not an “asshole.”
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Agreed. It can’t be all asshole, all the time, or she will get sick of it and permanently bail sooner or later.
It also helps if it’s “funny asshole,” vice “rude and obnoxious asshole.” If the assholery is delivered with genuine humor, it’s pretty much like crack for women. Even smart ones.
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So you are saying keep them on crack, but bring them puppies sometimes.
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I’m saying deliver the asshole lines in a genuinely funny way, and you’d be shocked at what you can get away with. What’s tough about doing that in a text message is that you lose the body language and tone of voice, so something that would be hilarious in person can come off as vicious in text format.
And don’t bring puppies. But texting a picture of a puppy if you think you might have pushed it a little too far might be helpful.
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For you.
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Perfect.
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Lies… you and I are closely in proximity. So if you’d like to test this theory, and though you offer nothing I want, I’ve banged out some “swimmer chicks” in my day (though, they were not purposefully sterile). I would posit to you that I can still be rude and obnoxious asshole, so long as it isn’t the whole evening, and directed at you. If we can find a target of mutual ridicule, you will engage me in our laugh even at the expense of another and it will turn you on, this is old ground for me.
Sadly, even if I fulfilled this promise, our imaginary image of one another though living mere miles apart would be forever shattered. So let’s do it another way— Younger- Charlie Sheen (Wallstreet) older (Christian Bale, the late years). You? My really athletic college friend with the really pert small tits and muscled frame.
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Actually, Jay, the mental image you’ve formed of me isn’t even close. I mean, you’re welcome to it; it doesn’t bother me. But if you ever saw me on the street—and, in fact, it’s entirely possible that you have, but try not to let that creep you out—you wouldn’t think “I bet she could hang a towel off that clit and still have room for a Soap On A Rope!”
I actually read as quite feminine, even fragile, in person. Long, slender neck. Slim wrists, delicate ankles, small waist, flat stomach. The jaw is square, but not Sigourney Weaver-heavy…and my long hair softens it. Big eyes, long eyelashes, Cupid’s bow lips.
The illusion lasts until approximately 30 seconds after I open my mouth.
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Great propaganda, RD – our resident afeminine shemale with a clit-dick that hits the moon.
Let me remind the audience with truth and FACTS about RD (all of which she admitted):
– old
-divorcee
-chain-smoker
-whiskey-drinker
-A cup breasts
– gun enthusiast and hunts deers
– man-jaw
– NICKEL IN HER FALLOPIAN tubes to ensure she never has kids
-she even fucking writes like a man (as per CH’s comment of the week)
Does this sound feminine to you? LOL.
Go take meds you delusional old hag.
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Your mom doesn’t seem to mind.
She says “hi,” by the way.
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You like the Jeff Winger alphas. Strange, that really doesn’t seem like you. You seem more of the douchebag lover.
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The IQ needed to do it humorously will keep her attached whether or not you make the jokes. I don’t think I would do humor for the sake of attracting a woman. It’s one of those things that a woman likes but that won’t help the man much.
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No, actually she’s rather right about this. Humor in and of itself just makes you the Monkey Boy to entertain her, since a lot of humor is not pointed at the person you’re addressing. Humor with assholery directed at her is pure gold at keeping her hooked and coming back for more. Indifferent humor, where it’s funny as hell but you’re cool and aloof when you deliver it, with some asshole on the afterburner…you will have her writing you blank cheques for the privilege of sucking your cock.
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The other thing about Queen’s English assholery humor is that it makes it so easy to flip on a dime and be just the mischievous little bad boy lovable devil with the twinkle in his eye.
If you structure the humor properly, then she’ll be silly putty in your hands:
“Not that I have any personal experience with this sort of thing, but they say that…”
“I read a novel once where the heroine was…”
“…present company excluded. Obviously.”
I suppose that really grotesquely vulgar assholery might work on high IQ chicks: “SHUT THE FUCK UP, BITCH. BECAUSE YOU’RE UGLY, THAT’S WHY!.”
I don’t know – I’m too much of a White Knight to ever get that cruel with my womynz.
But if you can weave your high-IQ Queen’s English assholery humor in a firm but gently hilarious narrative, then pretty soon she’ll be so wet for you that she’ll be dripping right through her jeans and onto the floor.
PS: It gets back to a point which I raised on another recent thread – we really ought to try to make a compendium of Game techniques which work on all IQ strata.
Versus specific techniques which work only on specific IQ strata.
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The women I hang out with become more formal, taciturn, and icy the angrier they get, and words like “fuck” and “bitch” do not function in any seduction context, at all, ever. I imagine they save that language for girls night out or something. Say “fuck” or “bitch” without some pretty serious qualification, you’ll be nexted in .0001 seconds.
Truthfully, I don’t really see how our hero, in the case study, as being an asshole. He’s just bemused, and toying with an eager kitten. Then he offers a non sequitor, non-supplicating text (“haaaaaaaa”) which causes our heroine to have a meltdown and then escalate to her booty call proposal. I’d say it was more laconic, bemused game than asshole game.
Maybe I don’t know what people mean by “asshole”, but I generally view assholes as being stupid, rude, and self-centered. This man was smart, ironic, and focused on his objective.
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Put another way, I associate “assholes” with people who complain. Perhaps this is the disconnect. Once I learned the old WASP wisdom of “never complain, never explain” I simply never lost a woman. The only women I’ve dated in the past three years who won’t go out with me on demand today, are those I’ve lost my temper with.
I’m not lobbying to change the meaning of “asshole game.” It probably means something I don’t recognize. I make a point of not doing what women tell me to do, unless I want to (sometimes), and maybe in this wussified, matriarchal era that alone constitutes “asshole game.” Certainly my ex-wife would say so, but then I smile and she gets kind of buttery.
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assholery humor — with emphasis on the assholery.
So different from what I think of, still got on my mind “women like a guy with a sense of humor” sort of advice we’ve all heard.
I need to update my thinking, thanks guys.
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BuenaVista, I think I hang out with fairly similar women as you do, and I think that with some embellishment Zombie’s ideas are appropriate for that setting.
““Not that I have any personal experience with this sort of thing, but they say that…”
“I read a novel once where the heroine was…”
“…present company excluded. Obviously.” ”
i’d refer to some people I met on vacation, or someone I knew in school, rather than being quite so vague, after all you are expected to bring value in the form of interesting personal experiences to the interaction. But those alleged experiences can be lies, nobody’s going to check and nobody would mind either if they found out, it would enhance your reputation as a storyteller.
Come to think of it, in married person’s party game, there’s not much pickup going on because both people are married I guess, I really don’t think I am being naive to say that actual sex on the side is little to none between party goers. We’re mostly 40 and up (sometimes way up) with kids, and then those kids are also at the party. But DHV and tingles are very much still in play, that is biological. And the vagina is the same, just the brain in the way can be different.
And those brains appreciate a good story. They’re not so much sizing up a potential mate (so the EHV aspect is still important because of automatic responses but somewhat reduced) as looking for entertainment. We’re not needy but we go to the party because it’s fun.
Does that sound like the milieu where you spend your social time?
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Does that sound like the milieu where you spend your social time?
I’m guessing it is as different as trying to pick up a hood rat vs. an Ivy league SWPL chick.
Not taking away from what you said FamilyMan, but my impression of BV is that he runs in pretty rarified air from us plebes. He can certainly correct me if I’m wrong.
He is dealing mainly with older career chicks who have eschewed the pedestrian ‘suburban life’ for urban pleasures. This entails name dropping who you know, eating in places where there may or may not be prices on the menu, talking about the fact that you had to get a passport insert because they ran out of room for stamps, and qualifying you by finding out how many advanced degrees you possess, or your managerial status at your company.
So… pretty much nothing like what you described. For my money? If I could be parachuted in, special forces style, to either social situation I’m taking your 40 something suburbanite party over the absurdly contrived “1% poseurs” any day of any week. The truly wealthy, connected, and elite look at those women the way most men look at a 100 bhat (~US$3) thai whore.
Your suburban hell is just old people flirting with one another. No one is brave enough to ask Sally to go the kitchen because you think we need to probably grab more chips and dip since we are running low. I’d then stick my tongue in Sally’s ear and tell her I don’t want to cause any complications because we all have alot to lose but if she didn’t like what I did speak up now. Of course, by this time, the IOI’s from Sally are well documented. She will have great difficulty returning to the party since her panties are now embarassingly wet and may even be running through her other clothing.
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Jay, I’ve done the average suburbanite thing previously. Barbecues, hanging around watching sports, the guys in one room drinking beer while the women are doing whatever somewhere else. People are at the party for a purpose, because (they and) the other people are boring. This isn’t that.
You wouldn’t get the hostess in the kitchen. The help is in there, the hostess is out socializing or doing some other alpha female stuff. Do you want to seduce an illegal immigrant? Knock yourself out.
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Jay, longer comment in moderation, if you went into the kitchen at parties I described, you would find the help not the hostess. 🙂
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Damn it, CH, will you get my comment out of moderation and let me push back? Thanks.
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I suggest that asshole game be deployed only in the context of prior attraction and –preferably — banging.
And the reason why “genuinely funny” asshole is good isn’t because of the asshole — being legitimately funny = DHV.
The asshole part = the takeaway.
I give you DHV trait — funny/protector loved ones/etc etc — but I could take it away at any moment. That’s what “asshole” game is about.
DUCY it doesn’t matter if you haven’t given her anything yet?
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Being an asshole when she is shit-testing works all the time. It can cause a nearly immediate and long-lasting (relative to the effort expended) 180 in most women. Also, you don’t have to be an asshole to her to get a response. Being an asshole to someone else who deserves it gets nearly the same effect. Women want boundaries, and a man who draws them, via whatever means. Being an asshole just to be an asshole may work, but it isn’t how I want to live, and you certainly don’t have to be that to attract women.
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To asshole or not to asshole, that is not the question.
“Asshole” and “douchebag” and “jerk” all carry negative connotations because of our feminized context. Those terms are interchangeable with positive ones like, “strong,” “independent,” and “direct.” In other times and places they were positively celebrated virtues in men.
So, you don’t calculate how to be mean or hurtful — that betrays a dependency on the female frame. You simply be independent minded, truthful, witty, and ignore the culturally-prompted negative reaction as irrelevant to you.
And that level of honesty is the trait rare enough today to distinguish oneself among the cringing and apologetic moob mob, especially with women who have been programmed the opposite and therefore are subject to the additional frisson of internal transgression. They cannot figure out what is happening, their insides go haywire, they are ripe for the pl/f-ucking.
Matt
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It depends. I have known good women who recoil from the asshole game. Thus, I only play it when I need to. I find that women who have not ran the cock carousel are much less receptive of the game.
A current squeeze of mine fits this mold. Raised in a small town to religious parents, she is much more reserved and “docile” than most women on the market. She has already been married once, and has grown children and is confident in herself and her life. Game does not work on her.
That being said, I am also an older guy, but still virile, and with a lot of game in me.
Just be aware that some of the most desirable women don’t buy in to the game. Yes, the young and naive girls will jump at a guy who is blatantly alpha, but not so much for women who are more experienced, and confident in their selves.
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i don’t have stats or anything but it does seem like a quality girl would respond less to assholery.
[CH: Define “quality”. Because I can tell you if you mean education level or social class, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Most men think of a beautiful woman when they think of quality. And in my experience it has been the (educated, smart) hot babes who most craved and best responded to asshole game.]
i have known some. and my unscientific feeling is that the reason it works so well, in this time and place particularly, is the low quality of upbringing most girls have anymore. or low quality of our culture now. or whatever it is we have going.
in asia, for my experience, and in other places i have only read about, you actually can get away with being nice and straightforward. here in the usa, i have to be almost pure distilled anus to get traction. tiring.
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There are a lot of variations of “asshole”. The women you’re talking about aren’t going to be as receptive to crude and immature types of response. I’d be way turned off by this guy’s “haaaa” response but if he just texted “?” or ignored me, it’s different. That’s indifference without being immature and nasty.
It’s the twelve year old “nah nah” type texts that would ruin it for me. I don’t want a boy, I want a man.
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I use the same type of ‘asshole’ – on women ranging from my VP Financial Advisor to my 10 year old daughter – and the effect is always the same.
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The type of ‘asshole game’ I practice is quite literal.
A lusty female like Amy frequently pays $5000 for the sheer honor of detoxing my buttox. She benefits from this, as it is spiritual, theraputic, and exhilarating all at once…..
When you allow a woman to detox your buttox, THAT is asshole game…
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lolz i said this to my girl tonight – bish loved it!
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I think aloofness works just fine with women of the highest education level and pretty good social class. I don’t know any famous women, but the ones I know that are very well off do want the man to be in control in their interaction. That’s hard to pull off if you’re responding every time she gives you an input.
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“And in my experience it has been the (educated, smart) hot babes who most craved and best responded to asshole game”
Yes, exactly. This is my experience as well. These chicks expect wit, honed conversational ability, sarcasm, spiced with strong assholery.
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Boomer, you are giving an anecdote about your old hag with grown children, and then you purport to tell us what “desirable women” want. Have you any experience with any desirable women which afforded you the opportunity to form your opinion? Because the woman you discuss in your 2nd paragraph is not one.
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Boom.
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She sounds nice! 🙂
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She is Kate…
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Die
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Do not arrogate my name. And do not interrupt my conversation.
Mike, email me if this ridiculousness persists.
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I am sorry, is a cultural misunderstanding, it won’t happen again for sure, because this is a tradition that happens just one day a year, like Christmas, today 23 january, we act as we are other person, is the tradition of a small Amerindian tribe, so even if you google it, you won’t find many info.
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In that case, allow me to dub thee “A boy named Sioux.”
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Lol
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Dafuq girl? I assume you wanted to reply to “Kate” with the busted gravatar? Why then, did you post it here? Secondly, Mike blah blah persists. Are these related? I’m thoroughly confused to be honest…
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Nevermind… I see now it was WordPress bullshit. You are way too old for me but you are Euro-descended. Your hair and eyes tell the tale. Get to making white babies, post haste…
Not sure who is going to save you from arrogate apostates here, but stranger things have happened.
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Ah, our troll is back. Must be winter break for the elementary schools.
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95% of men are blue pill and Beta and I just wanna say thanks man.
we need ya!
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I pray for them every day.
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Game does work on her, probably moreso than normal girls. She’s just developed an uber strong bitchshield for her own good. You just don’t understand what’s happening.
Her defensiveness, combined with her declining value (or already bottomed value) means that you’d need to deploy game/anti-game to get her. You know, drop a hint that you’d commit to her, then drop some alpha bombs. Fucking watch what happens.
Or, better yet, don’t do that and just try gunning for a 19 year old hottie instead.
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Will follow your advice sir and will only contact women under 19.
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OK, don’t be an asshole. Just be aloof sometimes. That’s what the guy really did in the texts anyway, he didn’t call her a cunt or tell other people secrets from her or steal money or anything like that.
You’re giving up frame if you think he’s an asshole just because she called him that. You’re really in trouble if you think you’re an asshole when your woman calls you that.
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If she’s begging for beta blood, you’re doing it right
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Should have went with “…”
Actually either do that now even or “So it’s come to this…”
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The level of asshole game must be in accordance with the mark. If you are attempting a pump and dump on a Mexican single-mother, hit the alpha gas. If you are gaming a WASPy brahmin with a strong family background, you might want to pump the breaks. I have found that the smarter the broad the more nuanced an approach is needed. Those extra IQ points push gals to hold onto the feminism they picked up in college. Not that they can’t be gamed all the same, but the approach between them and a stripper with a double-digit IQ has to be different.
This why I avoid any broad with a Stanford Binet over 115. The great, obese philosopher from Brooklyn, Christopher Wallace, said it best: “Bitches I like them brainless, guns I like them stainless, I want the fucking fortune like the wheel.”
[CH: Well-bred chicks dig assholes just the same, the difference being that they like their asshole served up with a chianti and a side of fava beans.]
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Mexican single-mother, hit the alpha gas….http://www.thetoptens.com/foods-make-you-fart/
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You don’t have to pump the breaks at all. The reason thuglife doesn’t clean up with Ms. WASP, is because the groups Ms. WASP roll in won’t be as respnsive to thuglife. So, thuglife won’t be able to display dominance. However, if Thuglife possesses some sort of IQ and starts wearing a suit to hide his tribal tattoos….he’ll be slaying WASPs too.
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sigh.
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lol
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yep, he really is the worst poster on this site now, bar none
look at him yell at some guy below, who is fond of casual sex, for wanting to “masturbate into cunts you don’t care about”. what a beta…
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This. The shit tests are different, because they are outbursts of the conscious mind trying to push back against the vagina’s commands. The vagina is not different. Therefore the social part of what you do needs adaptation, and the DHV she responds to may be different (or not, not really sure about that) but that’s only a limited part of the whole game
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jesus christ. NO not this.
gimme any gang banger and he has a BETTER chance with domestic royalty than 95% of men. fucking hell. aren’t you ignorant fucks paying attention?
YOU CALIBRATE DOWN WHEN YOU ARE ALPHA.
ignorant betas fake it and post up.
jesus fucking christ. Matt King you inbred fuck get in here. be good for something.
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i cuss when i got a buzz. sue me.
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I cuss without a buzz, I’m a sailor with one… which is more times than I like. But you are way off base on this one. You think some busted ass negro with his pants hangin off his ass any chance with some over-educated sheltered euro white bitch? Nigga please…
They only support these men in theory, not in reality. They talk the talk, they are far left voters all the live long day, but they are scared as fuck on DC Metro. And with good reason… there have been many articles on this phenomenon.
DC Metro goes all across the city. So it picks up dumb ass “no interaction” white liberal cunts from rich areas, and puts them on trains with “underpriveleged yoofs” who they SUPPORT! ALWAYS! They lack opportunity and are still suffering from oppression and disenfrachisement as a legacy of slavery.
Now— reality takes hold. (talking on iphone 5) ‘Oh my god becky, I am so happy to be on this project to bring more taxpayer money into underpriveleged neighborhoods that are not even TEN miles from us. How unfair is that?!’
Ohhh, uhh, hi… you are rubbing your penis on me now? So… not… cool. You just called me a dirty white whore?! ‘Uhhh, Becky… something strange is happening, and I’m scared’
I say this with nothing but conviction in my heart. Recently a liberal white cunt got “knockout gamed” by some bruvas in DC. She forgave them, and asked for me. This is a thing of beauty. My great hope is that every Becky who lives in NW, works for a social justice org, or a political action committee, or a non-profit, or an organization that serves ‘underpriveleged’ communities catches the ni66a dick and a punch in the face. Preferably, both at once. Nothing short of this can possibly snap our women out of genocide. And even this, may not be enough…
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i dunno……i’ve seen my share of it.
maybe it’s regional but from scottsdale to LA……oooh! salt lake! you wouldn’t believe how those model quality rich white blond mormon girls flock to a homie.
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Jay, the problem with your desired solution is that then they would have gone black … would you want them back?
There really is no solution for many in this generation of women, and it’s not job to teach them. There’s a whole world of choices out there. Look, you can’t even talk to bitches who have seen failure first hand and are past the wall and/or “experienced” with 100 lovers or more, maybe with kids in tow, and desperate. They think they can demand that men be attracted to them.
Regarding girls selecting low class men, we recently had this: http://www.theroot.com/blogs/blogging_the_beltway/2013/05/john_boehner_welcomes_new_black_relative_daughter_marries_jamaicanborn_man.html
I still can’t believe it either, but at least Boehner has another daughter, younger, who is already safely in a better marriage. To the extent that marriages are safe these days.
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Nah you’re entertaining.
Anyway please explain in English: “YOU CALIBRATE DOWN WHEN YOU ARE ALPHA.”
It’s true that you don’t really want to engage the girl’s cranial matter, the goal is the same as always, to bypass it. If you get into a direct contest with the girl’s brain, she’ll develop feelings of hatred (hence, strained relationships in sexually integrated workplaces abound) same as she would for another woman who competed with her. You will probably win this competition but it doesn’t get you closer to the pussy.
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Rollo quoted it the absolute best yesterday:
“She wants a kind man who knows when to be tough. #bluepill
She wants a tough man who knows when to be kind. #redpill”
If you are a hard ass mofo, you roll it back and soften it up proportionate to how you are perceived.
took me YEARS to learn. i can literally be as emotional as i want (not slipping into a perception of excess volatility of course) whenever i want. share what ever feelings i need to. its a TURN ON for these girls. blow jobs and hour back rubs every night just by letting some feelings “slip” during the limited conversations i’m willing to indulge w a girl. if i want to keep a girl long term, ill go to a movie that is guaranteed to make me cry (i recommend “Lone Survivor”) and i won’t have clean my house, make a meal, or buy my own dinner out for a month. rinse repeat. CALIBRATE DOWN.
of course i am a natural with an alphette for a mom and a hard core sigma for a dad and mom conditioned the living shit out of me to the point of early detachment (say, 6 years old) so my learning curve is very different.
i also discovered eastern philosophy and that has helped tremendously. it’s actually a bit of a problem because internalizing things like the Tao makes you bulletproof, and you have to get even MORE emotional to counteract the effects of enlightenment and a lack of fear.
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(Reply to Tilikum)
I’m unlike you in that my home training was not so alpha. I remained attached to mom a long time. I think the gamewise problem with this is just that one must learn that one will not recreate your relationship with your mother, with girls. Thinking of maternal love you received from your mom, vs. attraction you will generate in girls (their maternal love is not for you but for your children by her), makes this clear.
For such a simple and important thing, I’ve never seen it explained elsewhere, at least in the game literature. It’s probably something like Oedipus complex. but it’s not really that either. Anyway, understanding that will solve any problems created by having a had a close relationship with one’s mother.
I don’t understand “alphette”, I have been operating on the assumption that women involuntarily love their children more than anything. Please expand, maybe my understanding is incomplete. Does their love of self (narcissism) triumph over love of children (maternal love) and the children are emotionally ejected?
I hear you on the Eastern philosophy, especially Daoism. Have you tried energy practice (qigong, aka reiki)? The energy field can extend to the woman next to you.
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Also Tilikum, you didn’t tie your comment about “calibrating down” to the discussion of whether it would be more or less important to use an asshole attitude with the upper crust of females.
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If you really seek the great Dao family man, read Zhuan Falun http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/pdf/zfl_new.pdf
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Hat tip to h.t.
I’ve seen some other “wheel based” practices outside of formal qigong practice, so I am interested to see how they integrate. It looks like this text will get into that.
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The other 5% are the alphas in the domestic royalty circle — y’know, the ones who have the IQ. Nah, ur right….the gangbangers are so alpha that they run Fortune 500 companies, right? Not the alphas who also have the IQ that are tapping the highest possible quality puss. lol
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simple. you are what you can kill.
works on every girl. every time.
just because you have leveraged some skills into a career doesn’t mean that you are anything more than a bug to a girl.
i left corporate america because it was full of bitch-ass ceo’s, coo’s, cfo’s and wholly feminized cultures. it was poisoning to the soul.
get a real estate license if you have to but get OUT.
IQ isn’t the ability to adapt. intellectual IQ isn’t mechanical IQ.
you think way to monolithically about everything except how women’s attraction triggers work.
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If you would actually read what I’d write I think you’d come to the opposite conclusion. I’ve already said 3 billion times that intelligence is always an attraction trigger if you learn how to apply it. It helps to think of yourself as being in a primitive tribe and thinking how intellect would have helped you survive back in those times.
It would help you take risks with a higher chance of success, mainly.
Anyway, I never said every CEO was an alpha. That top 5% tho….ya….those would be the alphas who have all the other stuff thuglife lacks.
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lol our resident Boomers FamilyMan and CanadianFriend are cute (no homo) and their hearts are in the right place, but they are “off” about 60% of the time.
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That’s informative. You’d better warn the others more specifically of what we are off of. And tell us how to improve, I am certainly here to learn.
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Some rapper banged a married Rothschild woman (yeah, those Rothschilds), that was pretty funny. Classy too.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2329289/Jay-Electronica-Kate-Rothschild-The-dope-smoking-rapper-Rothschild-heiress-make-husband-No-2.html
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LULZ
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Ironic how the cultural degeneration that they funded and imposed on the rest of us came back to bite them in the …
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Exactly. Karma
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Yes, I can understand why a high IQ would be very off-putting for you.
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As per the previous Chateau musings…the uncaring asshole gets the girl. As soon as you add a tinge of emotion into it you care and thus you fail.
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Stupid.
Have fun masturbating into cunts you don’t care about. What a beautiful life…lol
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ok.
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It’s the thought that counts.
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indeed.
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Your way of caring can (and should) be that you are in charge and give her the gift of your guidance. She’ll assume it has high value, generally unless you tell or show her otherwise.
I think of game as being communication with the vagina bypassing the conscious mind. You can and should wave hello to the conscious mind on the way past, and it can be interesting getting to know it, and it can be a good mind too in some women.
But you do care about that cunt (to use your word) and your job is to free it from the overbearing blockage of her conscious mind.
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I agree. You can care while acting like a man — developing control is a difficult skill to master. Shit, like I’ve said in prior posts, I can’t even properly Soft Next a girl yet. Guys who bypass this necessary skillset by just shacking up with girls they don’t care about are as bad as the betas who overwhelm themselves with emotion.
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Wisdom
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In case anyone is still not convinced yet how much of a shitty poster this nigger Scray is…
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I am flattered
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I don’t fully agree with this. There’s nothing wrong with “emotion” if it’s rooted in masculine strength and honor. Being emotional and adding emotion to game aren’t the same. Women only speak in emotion, not in logic, so you have to relate to that for LTRs. But always with amused mastery assholishness.
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Had a buddy throughout high school and college that would always interrupt me when I was talking with mixed groups (and new girls of that night at clubs/bars). I remember several times me saying, “Dude, you interrupted me in the middle of my f#ckin’ sentence.” I couldn’t understand why this “asshole” buddy of mine, who knew I’d likely kick his ass if I felt he was disrespecting me, always did it. That was pre Red-Pill. Now I know that although I was alpha with sports and brawling, I was blue pill and my conversations were blue pill downers. He wasn’t being an asshole. He was just doing the right thing to get him and his buddies laid more easily.
What I know now: Assholes are real close to the pussies (closer than beta males).
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A true buddy wouldn’t pull that shit on you in front of da bitchez.
Mother-fucker pulls that shit on me, and he’ll be lucky if I don’t pick up a chair and crack his God-damned skull wide open.
Trying to “pull an Alpha” in front of da bitchez is a serious infraction against The Man Code.
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Yep. He needs a kick in the balls.
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nah, if you don’t demonstrate his weakness for him, some other swinging dick will.
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Call it friendly encouragement.
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hehe
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@Zombie Shane: Nah, I know what you mean. There’s a fine line, but he did it so that “we both” would have a better chance of getting laid. He wasn’t AMOGing or cockblocking me, just steering the conversation. Lol, just think of my buddy as David Spade here:
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Let me try that embed link again:
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Bust his skill open with a chair?
It’s sad how the ‘sphere attracts these little bitchboy fantasy artists. Run along, kid.
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That bunny’s got a mean streak a mile wide.
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Your male friends — in mixed company — are only a net benefit if they help you get laid. There’s none of this ‘true buddy’ shit. If your bros want you to go down and hit on chicks with them, ask yourself if your odds of getting laid will go up or down if you are with them. If the answer is no, confine hanging out with them to nights where you don’t want to get laid.
Make your life easier rather than harder.
Fuck all of these appeals to nobility — a true bro wouldn’t….
whatever.
And then, if/when it does happen…you’re going to fight over it? Just make a note of it and act accordingly — i.e. never hang out in mixed company with that individual again. People linger in shitty situations with shitty people because they are scarce in their entire lives. They worry that no other friends will come along, etc. etc.
it’s way easier to just construct the life you want when you have abundance.
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Dude knew what he was doing. I didn’t. I was uncalibrated as a mofo back them, just throwing anything out there. He steered the conversations down the path in the way they needed to. I didn’t know shit about the Juggler Method of conversation dynamics, but he instinctively knew this (even though he wasn’t self aware enough to teach it). Red Pill awareness is an awesome pet to own. I go out now and the bar appears as if it’s a chess board and I have the omnipresent view of the game player from above. I know all the moves, rules and interactions around me. Before, I was like the haphazard pawn with the limited eye-level view of my small piece of the board. I was a pawn bumping against the rules of the board.
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Ha ha, my dad’s a chronically depressed alcoholic with aspergers and he’s been playing narcissistic asshole game on my mom since 1965.
She hasn’t liked the dumb sonuvabitch since Nixon’s first term but she just can’t leave. Deep in her heart, she knows she can reach this useless moron.
Now if he had a shred of social skills and could form a complete sentence after 5 pm, they’d both be happier.
A girl can easily forgive you for ruining 50 years of her life, but never for being too easy to get along with. She has to draw the line somewhere.
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“A girl can easily forgive you for ruining 50 years of her life, but never for being too easy to get along with. She has to draw the line somewhere.”
This.
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Heh. Relationship game ftw.
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“chronically depressed alcoholic with aspergers”
Ha ha. That reminds me of the footage of that stoned girl fighting with the tree.
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Napster dude is a pimp. That bitch is crazy about him.
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There’s a reason bastards were historically not given support. If you want a man to support your child, give him a reason to make you his wife. Child support should be abolished for societies sake.
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Nah.
That’s too far. Women can be lied to, too yannow. And I mean, if a woman gets knocked up by an alpha at a young age….make the alpha pay for his spawn so that the woman is a more attractive mate for a beta, who she’ll give two or three more children to.
Even alimony isn’t a bad idea. Just none of this no-fault alimony bullshit. But yeah, if a man enters into a marriage and decides to dissolve it….yeah, he should be on the hook for it. A woman should be on the hook as well.
Y’know….true equality and shit.
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OT: Find one non YKW in this gay marriage/judge/lawyer story:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2014/01/gay-marriage-case-assigned-to-miami-dade-circuit-judge-sarah-zabel-a-veteran-family-law-specialist.html
christ
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JD from Nova. lzozlozlzlzo christ
https://www.jud11.flcourts.org/juddirdetails.aspx?judgeid=804§ionid=16
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“christ”
Crucified.
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“Fanning had not responded directly to her attempts to contact him, she said, even though he was aware of the campaign: “He’s not answering, he’s lowballing me.””
Whoops baby mama, that’s a tell.
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I’m sorry CH but GOD DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/opinion/kohn-white-male-hollywood/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
Note link title, YKW authoress, dyke hair, and the content. It’s really too much to expect me to get out of bed anymore.
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Remind me to continue to ignore all the shit from Hollywood. If it’s all taken over by Jesse Jackson, I don’t care. I don’t pay them money now and I wouldn’t then.
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It’s been ignored for a long long long time.
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Look at the comments man. Most people are just as sick of hearing “THERE AREN’T ENOUGH [women/blacks/Latinos] IN [insert field] BECAUSE THE OF THE EVIL WHITE MEN” as we are. This is encouraging.
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Depends on a culture and needs of a woman.If a woman is in touch with her tingles and lives up to her emotions: you have a very high asshole game tolerance level.
If a woman lives in a culture where sexuality is naturally suppressed and only sees a man as a headless,soulless slave,created by the nature only to serve her majesty-you get a very low asshole game tolerance level.
For example,with Ukrainian and Russian women the asshole tolerance level is very very low.It is either you are a beta or a highway in 2-3 months.If you agree to be beta,she will throw you out in 2-3 years,if you dont-she will do it in 2-3 months.
But for example with women who are naturally sexually liberal and follow their tingles not their heads -asshole game will bring you to the top of a mountain.
E.g. Spanish women,as more you asshole to them as better your life will be.And it will last for ages (couple of years at least).
Also other factors play massive role: social class,education,hotness etc.
Just my subjective experience.
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don’t forget the Italian girls….
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Greatest example of the Wall I have ever seen: http://stylecaster.com/once-famous-celebrities/
zlozlzozlzll. Ally McBeal was *hot* in 1997.
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sorry it didn’t link right. Calista Flockhart, about the 7th one in the list.
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Holy shit, that was awful.
Most of the American girls I was banging in the late ’90s were addicted to Ally McBeal.
Damn.
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Terrible, truly, But is IS hollywood. This has been going on for many decades. Calista Flockheart was hot 10-15 years ago as I have a penchant for thin women who may or may not have eating disorders. But poor Han Solo, married this bitch even though he has another decade of shelf-life.
Stifler, should not be on the list. He made his mark in 15 minutes. Thora Birch? Dafuq? I like when she showed us her big tits in American Beauty at 19. Period. Mena Suevari—ditto.
Brandon Routh— not sure what to make of this dude. I think he is an AC/DC that sucked off some hollyweird director to become Superman, even if for only one movie.
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Another post that seems to be mirroring what’s happening to me.
My ex gf is now freaking out…calling and reaching out on every type of chat network she can find with the same message: “Are you ok? Where are you? I’m worried about you.”
This comes amid me fucking up the “Soft Next” and engaging in contact with her after she came to my New Year’s Eve party.
As YaReally has accurately predicted she then suggested we meet up to go see a photo exhibit. I agreed.
Then she flaked a day before on some flimsy pretext trying to elicit sympathy. I didn’t react. But then I went on a major 3 week holiday which I’m on now….and didn’t tell her.
So the barrage of “I’m worried about you” texts/emails/phone calls (unanswered)
She was never like this when I was the one chasing her.
Now when I quietly go “off the grid” for a while…her imagination and hamster is in over-drive.
When I think back to a variety of situations, “asshole game” has never failed me in the long run.
In the short run the girl I’ve either told to fuck off or acted like the OP or disappeared has short-term reacted with anger, resentment, questions…but longer term they’ve turned into docile kittens.
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This may be asshole game, but you’re also just giving her what she deserves. She jerked you around and flaked, and now you’re forcing her to deal with the consequences of her bad behavior. I do this myself to guys if something is really out of bounds, and it usually works. It can’t be just “game” if it works on men. Lol
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Soft nexting is the magic bullet of assholery. I’ve aired broads out for 2 weeks plus and returned unscathed. I’ve kicked broads out of my place only for them to return a week later to their stuff boxed up. Post coitus shit test?:
Her: Why did you pack my stuff?
Me: I was gonna have a yard sale & your shit is more valuable.
Her:*HUGS*
Don’t even engage them logically. They don’t even really want you to.
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“My ex gf is now freaking out…calling and reaching out on every type of chat network she can find with the same message: “Are you ok? Where are you? I’m worried about you.””
This is just the next card in her rolodex. She can contact any of your friends to find out that you’re safe and sound if she’s really concerned, or she can call the cops to report a missing person…but she won’t, because she isn’t really concerned that you’re in trouble, she’s concerned that you aren’t responding to her attempts to get your attention because you’ve been responding to her attempts to get your attention with your “I’m Mr. Aloof txter!! look at me use my ellipses to mess with her mind!!” power-trip lol So now you’ve trained her that she’s still a part of your life and when she txts you respond (sooner or later).
So basically you’ve given her this card to play. Her next card will probably be something like “I found out from Mutual Friend that you’re okay, why are you making me worry like that?? Why are you so meeeeeeaaaaannnn!!! (guilt trip)” type shit. Maybe even followed by a “Whatever it is I did I’m sorry!!! (fake apology) I know you hate me right now (guilt trip) but you could at least let someone who cares about you know you’re okay when they’re worried :(” etc. etc. bullshit. Just more rolodex cards to get you to respond.
This is why your responding fucks everything up. Short-term reward (feeling like a boss, getting some validation or revenge) but with long-term consequences (now you have to wait like a year before she stops txting you when, if you had stuck to the Soft Next, she might have given up by now and you could let her back into your life in like a month).
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every guy should read this.
also, keep in mind that this also works in reverse, ergo when a chick splits it, you gotta disappear and not “be friends”. don’t keep interacting.
i fuck with all my ex’s but that’s cause i like to experiment with people and it’s a ton of fun as a calibration exercise, but the average guy shouldn’t ever do it. imo.
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Most women need to be trained, but it doesn’t take that much perseverance (waiting a month – for what?). “Reward” of attention is fine if she is showing signs of coming around. The fact that she indicates she is “worried” is actually good behavior, even if it’s not genuine. A good response would be “Yeah, I’m great, I’m on vacation!” which is not only truthful, but let’s her know she is “not part of your life” and having girls worrying about you is normal. You’re thereby giving her the attention she really needs: the knowledge that she’s going to have to work hard to win you, let alone keep you.
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@YaReally. Spot on as usual.
Yes. I fucked this up and responded or took the bait a few too many times. It was all a good learning.
But at the same time I surfaced the issues. I also learned a lot along the way of what NOT to do as well as what to do. A big one is never to get oneitis again.
I asked her outright what she wanted with all this outreach: the calls, the FB, the emails, the texts and the whatsapps.
She said “friends”. I told her I had no interest in being “friends” with her. I saw her as a woman not a ‘friend’.
Then told her bluntly to go fuck herself and pointed out what a liar she’s been.
I can hear now that I over-reacted and shouldn’t have taken the bait.
But sometimes, you just have to say what’s on your mind in its brutal unvarnished and harshest way. I have no intention of ever talking to this person again anyway.
Game is really for women who deserve it.
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@YaReally
You’ve been through this before haven’t you? 100% everything is following the script. Thanks for this.
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Why not send back a casual “hey thanks, im fine, no worries”
blow her concern trolling (that’s what it is) out of the water, be light and casual and provide no info.
I’d get expert advice first (YaReally) but this is what I’d be inclined to do. No reason to seem mad. It’s never right to seem mad. Never, never, never.. Being mad is weak.
Being calm and polite when she expects you to be mad is strong.
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Improvement, use “good” instead of “fine”
hey thanks, im good, no worries
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“Hey thanks” – suggests you appreciate them attempting to contact you.
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Would you be calm and polite if you ask her to do something and she doesn’t for no good reason? How about if she goes into the bathroom to cut herself because she thinks you don’t care about her?
I’ve gotten mad in both cases with quite satisfactory results.
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Yes but this is different. This is war. In war you’re not intimate enough to drop the calm-and-politeness. And it’s not your problem if she cuts herself.
I think the situation you’re describing is different. If I cared about someone and wanted to protect them, of course I would act differently.
A guy has to decide when he’s at war and when he’s protective. But you know this.
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When I read this, I realize I’m still not clear on what your goal is here. Oneitis? Revenge bang? Put her in the rotation? More drama in your life?
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*our lives
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@Glengarry
This is a journey. Interesting whenever you learn any skill there is a pivotal moment or point where you hit a wall–in a marathon or whatever.
This was my “wall”…now I’ve past it. It was painful and stupid and I made every counter-game mistake there is—despite overall success. It’s humbling to be out-matched by a girl you thought you had a handle on.
But now I have the clarity I was so sadly lacking.
What I’ve realized now is that despite being generally quite intuitive and sharp I was manipulated because in a very definite way the girl pushed all the right buttons. This is why the whole idealization phase of how these types of girls start with is so bewildering and confusing. The question is how and why I allowed this. I think I’m now seeing this better.
The goal of game is a greater self-awareness. Hard pill to swallow when you realize that you’re not quite as good or game-savvy as you thought you were.
Thanks to everyone who supported or offered their inputs it was incredibly helpful. I hope my own experiences can help guys finding themselves in similar scenarios.
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This is the “jerk vs nice guy” thing again. Guys like to tell themselves that women only like “jerks” because it makes their failure less painful: women be bitches who make the wrong choice.
Women don’t have a problem with nice, they have a problem with boring. They have a problem with weakness. That’s all that needs to be said about this. A jerk may show her something new and exciting, and his aggression will be a signal of strength, true or false. That is what women like. But you don’t have to act like a jerk to give her an exciting experience, and you can show her strength based on actual strength.
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Show any hint of nice when meeting a girl for the first time and she will blow your ass out. You have to be smartass-ish at the least to get any traction.
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Arbiter is completely right
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I remember going to Denny’s with two of my lady friends. One of the girls picked up this guy from the bar. She was showing us pictures of her nephew. Her friend ooh’d and ahh’d. The guy she picked up said, “I’d dropkick him.” They were both aghast.
I kept my mouth shut. I knew what he was going for, but I was in no way indebted to this guy enough to tell him to tone it down about four notches. He shot himself in the foot and didn’t get laid. Which is a miracle in itself, because she is Slutty.
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I’m sure there’s a bunch of women that line would work on.
You win some, you lose some.
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Showing pictures of nephew is maternal / family oriented. Seems totally wrong mindset for vag tingles. I don’t know how I would redirect this, his way would be as good as mine since I have none either. At least he tried.
Specific suggestions for how he should have proceeded?
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I don’t think there has to be a line for every situation. I think you can look at the pic and not say anything. Doesn’t have to be clamoring for every baby. But I mean…something like, “He’s a good-looking baby. Are you sure you two are related?” would suffice.
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In a joking tone — sure, good neg,
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Hi, you have perfect blowjob lips.
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lest any newbs consider the opinions of Arbiter the Delta as either masculine or worthy of real consideration, we would have you notice the manjaw agreeing with it.
there is a lesson there, if you listen.
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Agreed. Jerk in this context doesn’t imply a nasty, vile human being; just someone who doesn’t give a fuck and won’t supplicate (as many men are inclined to do). The key is to avoid the painfully boring nice guy script-
You: “So where are you from?”
Her: “_________. What about you?”
You” “Cool! I live about 10 miles from there. What do you do for a living?”
Her: “I’m a ________ at _________.”
You: “Oh. Nice. I’m a __________.”
Her: “Cool.”
You: “Yep.”
I overhear some variation of this so often it makes me want to vomit. I even find myself reverting to this horrible interview if I can’t think of anything else to say. Or I’m at a club where the music is playing at 130 dB and I know no sentence more than 5 words long has any shot at being understood.
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Excitement stimulates dopamine which creates and stores happy memories. That can be fine as long as the woman isn’t remembering her victory over you.
More important is to stimulate oxytocin which is the bonding chemincal in a woman. I know this is different from how MMSL describes it, because I think MMSL is wrong.
Asshole and hamster-spinning are useful in stimulating the oxytocin.
It’s nice to give her a little dopamine once in a while but that’s a nice to have. The oxytocin is necessary if your aim is not to end in the friend zone.
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Only the callous can give her the phallus
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+1
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Ha. Good stuff.
Next level game: rendering all the wisdom into short Dr. Seussian rhymes.
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OT:
“The answer is for established men to start marrying much younger women. Break the assortative mating chain.”
I’d prefer a hire-hetero-males-first policy, with retroactive enforcement (i.e. mass firings of females; mass firing/closeting of gays and other abnorms). Cut the assortian knot.
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But the first is within men’s control, the second is not.
You might get some semblance of the second (with lots of camouflage to pretend that men haven’t won) if do the first successfully. Then women will seek men and take them seriously, and men can react to the changed environment with a reduced level of cynicism and a lighter touch on the game.
After all we don’t hate women, it’s just that we love ourselves and won’t take shit.
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Fat woman loses weight, now sobs about how betas ogle her.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenny-g-perry/the-ugly-side-of-pretty_b_4577625.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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She could have avoided all these problems, from both women and men, if she had dressed modestly.
But that thought never even occurs to these mentally ill “liberated” females in our society.
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Well, dressing modestly wouldn’t really protect her from the female jealousy thing.
And she doesn’t have any “problems” from men… thinking it’s creepy when men check you out in public, wth? That’s what men DO. And how is that not a compliment anyway?
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Sounds like she needs a self esteem makeover, so she can elevate to a better class of female friends. There are some slim trim recent mothers out there. As for the men, yeah she’s bullshitting.
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A couple of extracts from that Huffington-Puffington horseshit:
“Men, don’t objectify a woman who is dressed in a bikini or be disrespectful because you like the way a woman looks.”
What, all three billion of us? OK. At once, ma’am.
“A woman should never feel like she has to hide her body for fear of comments, ogling or creeper behavior. That is never going to get a guy anywhere anyway.”
Chortle.
“Compliment a woman’s intelligence, character, integrity, her heart.”
Paging Wendy Davis!
“There’s no such thing as an ugly woman, in my opinion.”
Wow, let’s have some more of these dazzling opinions, sweety. Just a second while I get a notebook.
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I’m sure she’s wearing tight clothes and bikinis because she wants to be appreciated only for her character and heart. Yup.
Why’d she lose the weight then? Why is she wearing fitted clothes and makeup? She tells us her friends are jealous of how she looks now, so we know she’s not improving herself for female acceptance. Of COURSE it’s for looking attractive to men. That’s how we assess our looks and how we define beauty– how attractive we are to the opposite sex!
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People don’t want to admit there’s a motive to everything they do: “I just want to look pretty for myself/look professional” (raise my status when compared to others/buy into this role of professional POWER-dresser).
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All the time!
There’s a great opportunity for irony with that line of compliments. Isolate the most obviously exhibitionist girl in the group and tell her how you could just tell how smart and nice she is. Along the lines of (the real) Tyler Durden:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wwtdd+“seems+nice”
The more you exaggerate how wonderful her personality is, the more the contrast is highlighted, juxtaposing what they pretend to want (“compliment[s about] a woman’s intelligence”) with what their appearance proves they want (compliments about their body).
Matt
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The protestation is of “thelady doth protest too much”, variety.
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From the same river of sewage, hamster gonna hamster
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HuffPost is THE worst of the worst of the worst.
Pure evil garbage that is royally fucking the minds of young women today. They all read it and they consider it “high end intellectual stuff” like a female version of the Wall Street Journal.
I know this first hand. My ex GF is high IQ and pretty fucking rational and logical, for a woman, and she does NOT consider herself a feminist, and she knows how to cook, and she tries to be feminine as is her nature, but EVEN SHE is a regular reader of Huff Post, which totally fucks with her brain, which is a total clusterfuck because of it.
I could give so many examples. If you asked her, she would literally say, “I am not a feminist,” but her very being has been infected with feminism for her entire 30 years of being a conscious person (since age 6).
I repeat that Gen X got it the worst. The men of Gen X were royally fucked with the worst crop of women ever.
There is hope that the younger generation will return to a better situation.
I am bitter and I’d say rightfully so about being in Gen X.
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+1 on GenX….
under 28 isn’t so bad. the stupid broads 31-40 are giving out some painful lessons is what not to do.
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http://f2bb.com/bbs/show_topic/935316/1
Also, BOTM candidate, as you can deduce from the URL:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/10579798/My-wifes-male-best-friend-has-moved-in-with-us-and-he-wont-leave.-Help.html
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that BOTM was painful…..but not as bad as the advice.
counseling? i counsel with my closed fist.
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Though gen X women have aged out by now, haven’t they?
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the internet will have made humanity absolutely psychotic if it’s allowed another 10 years to progress. Generations that grew up with books and community are suddenly ensnared in a world of comments sections, friending, flame wars, selfies, porn, voyeurism, isolation, smartphone enslavement, etc, and some generations know nothing but this existence. Infected, is the word you used, and this technological track we’re on is systematically and relentlessly infecting us.
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Depressingly good point.
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Is this the famous “humblebrag”? While she obviously wants to trumpet her new hotness, do note the high exposure on the “after” photo. The ancient way of photoshopping away the wrinkles.
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Men and women project their own desires onto each other with disastrous results.
Men want a nice, caring, and sensitive woman. So they act that way and get blown out.
Women want a ballsy career guy. So they act ballsy (bitchy) and kill themselves at some pointless career that no man cares about.
It’s a sad situation.
Regardless, women are far more demanding and unreasonable.
For men: non-fat + non-bitch = attractive nearly all the time
For women, a man loses his attractiveness the SECOND he shows any signs of being weak or boring. It’s fucking impossible bullshit and part of the reason women should have highly restricted rights in all spheres of life.
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This
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Nice summary, +1
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But … the woman is naturally attracted to any guy who smells decent, even if he’s fat and asinine (masculine version of bitchy).
No wonder she needs auto cockblocks from her brain, her vag just wants to meet these guys. When her brain can’t cockblock coherently, it cockblocks incoherently.
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This superplus.
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As much as I dislike you, and it is QUITE acute, you have moments of brilliance still.
Less negro worship, more RealTalk™
❤ <3— Jay
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awe…
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The only necessary comment on this thread. Tight, well done.
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I remember an ex sent me a pic of herself. This was after we’d broken up and she was prone to compliments. I told her how amazed I was she’d put on 10 pounds. She called me an asshole. I said nothing back.
Three weeks later, she told me she would be in town to be a bridesmaid at her best friend’s wedding and she wanted to see my new apartment. Fish. Barrel.
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The natural tendency of 99% of guys out there is to try to placate her when she’s upset, and it’s a tendency you have to fight. So I figure when in doubt you gotta go asshole.
IMO the key is mixing it up. You can’t go all asshole all the time, because part of the point is confusing her. Once she decides she has you figured out (one way or the other), you’ll be less interesting.
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“when in doubt you gotta go asshole.”
A powerful slogan and good reminder right up there with “keep calm and. . .
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It is hard to overdo asshole game if you properly calibrate to the type of girl you are dealing with, and throwing them a non-asshole bone once in a while *reinforces* their attraction to you, rather that detracts from it.
One other thing to remember: this works with *all* relationships, not just sexual ones. Try it at work. You will be the man with both sexes and with subordinates and bosses alike.
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Even though David Letterman betrays his asshole game by having the heart of a beta, I recommend watching him interact with his guests as a general guide on the correct stance to take with women. This also got me thinking, are all late night talk show hosts betas? The evidence:
Jimmy Fallon: married a post-wall woman at least six years older than he is
Letterman: sired a son with his frumpy unattractive long-term girlfriend and cheated on her with staff members who were never above a 6 or a 7
Leno: married to the same woman for 30+ years…and she’s half a decade older. No kids.
Kimmel: said he would never date a girl now who he couldn’t have gotten in high school i.e., he seems scared to leverage fame and acquired alpha male status. Recently married a decent if plain looking chick. Previously married to a frump (see old Man Show episodes)
Conan: wears his beta heart like a badge
Johnny Carson: married and taken to the cleaners like four times. There’s a story circulating by his lawyer who said Carson cried like a girl when he found out his wife was cheating on him…while at the height of his fame
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Plenty of opportunity to fuck, but you just can’t execute. You’re sitting there asking people about their lives night after night after night, trying to make them interesting/funny. Makes sense to me.
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Everyone knows what my asshole game is….
RAPE!
The best part about rape? The cuddling afterwards….
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Don’t think of it as rape. Think of it as strangers with benefits.
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haaaaaaa..
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lol. Win.
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So couple of things, both releveant to CH.
1) I speculated the shooting war would be far off, but apparently, the stakes are ramping up FAST. A dude that put up a paltry 15,000 in party contributions in facing years in a cell. Do you know the amount of money laundering that ‘democratic’ PAC’s perform in a year? Untold sums… but then, there is this
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/2016-obamas-america-filmmaker-indicted-673670
I said everything I needed to say in my comments on that link. Fuck that nigga— straight up.
2) Time Magazine– Have you seen this week’s cover? I have been to the Smithsonian in DC and they have reconstructed figures of Neanderthal, Homo Erectus, etc. Those reconstructed skeletons and jaws, are FAR smaller than this, and they are males!!
The modern manjaw, brought to fruition, embraced, and loved. It is sad because beyond the jawline she is gorgeous. My old EE hottie had the same face/features but didn’t look like she’d just completed the Quest for Fire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082484/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
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What is the CH explanation for modern manjaws? I don’t have that one figured out? More testosterone in women to compensate for more estrogen in men? Manjaws also with the narrower hips, smaller boobs, etc?
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There ya go again, as if phony inter-cracker and cracker-negro conflicts are not makebelieve.
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Yeah, Im not seeing it either; nothing really wrong with that girl. White, blonde, thin enough to strangle with one hand…
would bang.
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Facebook is a wasteland. I know. But I have thereby met a lot of my extended-family. But G. Dam., the (right named) women are all hot. Every single one of them. It is as if there has been a ancient family meme to reject with deadly intent any and all fuglies.
God be praised.
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facebook was still usable as of 2010. It was still a novelty and 2010 was the peak of using it to find people from high school (for gen x people). I hooked up with a hottie from high school (who still had a banging body) using FB in 2010 (and had LTR for 2.5 years after). It is literally in the last couple of years that FB has REALLY gone downhill. It is literally for the baby boomer and older generations now….everyone’s mom and dad are on it.
I am off of FB now. When my dad made his own account, I knew it was time to go.
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Hey man, what happened to your “Female beauty from 1 to 10” article?
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/female-beauty-from-1-to-10/
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I disagree. There’s no such thing as too much asshole.
Don’t get me wrong, you can be a massive asshole and still fail to get the girl, but the reason you fail will never be because you were too much of an asshole.
Women go running back to men that beat them up all the time, you don’t get much more asshole than that.
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There is a great article by Shark on jerk vs alpha
http://www.solvemygirlproblems.com/2011/05/being-too-alpha-or-too-much-of-a-jerk/
There is a danger which I have been guilty of in thinking that to be good with women you have to always be a dick.
This is only true in the “attraction” phase. But if you over-do the cocky-funny a woman will just think you’re a dick and walk away.
That’s why the shift to comfort and calibrating the degree is so important.
If you were always “nice”—beta
If you were always a dick—“asshole”
But if you can balanced and calibrate at the right times so you know the difference between when a girl genuinely wants reassurance or comfort and when she’s shit-testing is the challenge in this journey of taking the red pill and understanding game.
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And clearly since the same can be said of women (men go back to all sorts), a woman can never be too much of a cunt.
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True, of course. In fact, I would argue that men are even worse than women at this (running back to partners who abused them).
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“Women go running back to men that beat them up all the time, you don’t get much more asshole than that.”
Really, this is your proof? These women are at the extreme end of the submission spectrum. For every woman who wants these extremes in their relationship dynamic, there are at least two who don’t. And the ones that do usually aren’t stable. Enjoy all those DV arrests.
Yes, there is such a thing as too much asshole, IF you want to keep a quality girl around. I broke up with a guy for exactly this. It gets too painful to be in a relationship with someone and love them and not have any idea if he loves you back. CH is right on the money with the “vulnerability game”. It’s necessary and I think a normal guy will want to do it anyway.
Honestly you can probably get away with MORE assholery if you do it, because she’ll be so anxious to get the next fix of caring/approval from you she’ll let other things go.
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Typical NAWALT shit post by Amy, resident overweight mudshark that has been told off by CH repeatedly and even threatened with a temporary ban.
Oh, yes, ironic too – considering you are a slut that rode the carousel of thugs her entire life into solitary spinsterhood, admitting to even dating a FELON and working at a prison.
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@Amy:
“”Honestly you can probably get away with MORE assholery if you do it, because she’ll be so anxious to get the next fix of caring/approval from you she’ll let other things go.””
Good insight.
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It was an example, not proof.
I would say the “nice – asshole” spectrum is relatively superfluous to attraction.
You can be super nice and be attractive, you can be super nice and be repulsive. You can be an asshole and be attractive, you can be an asshole and be repugnant.
For those doubting that you can be super nice and be attractive, consider a Captain America/Superman/generic hero type personality: Unquestionably nice, generous, selfless etc….. But also strong, dominant, honourable and great leaders.
As for your personal example, I would ask: Even if you did break up with him because he was too much of an asshole, did his “asshole-ness” cause you to be less attracted to him?
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“As for your personal example, I would ask: Even if you did break up with him because he was too much of an asshole, did his “asshole-ness” cause you to be less attracted to him?”
That’s a good question. I was still just as attracted to him, but it became so painful to stay in the RL that I had to leave. I had to respect myself. But yes, I still loved him and was attracted to him, until I cut off all contact with him and eventually moved on.
A girl who sticks around with a guy who’s a dick all the time and hurts her all the time (emotionally or otherwise) has low self respect/esteem. There’s no other way to look at it. She’s damaged. That’s going to end up manifesting itself in the RL in unpleasant ways for the guy too. I think a guy can get away with a lot of assholery in short term flings and have that assholery enhance those flings, but if you want to have a real relationship with a quality partner, you have to start giving some signs that you care. It may be one little sign to her twenty signs, but you have to give her SOMETHING.
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Have to? Good one, all that’s needed is some good game with a little dread-game now and again to remind her she’s replacable.
But sure sure, women are super great and you have to be nice to keep them and yadda yadda. Tell me, what flavour does your blue pill have: because I doubt anyone is going to bite into it to find out. Wait let me guess… menthol, like your cigarettes.
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if a woman thinks she can’t be a part of your club, she’ll do anything to get into it.
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CH study this. Could be interesting exploration for u. I’m sure u don’t follow miami dolphins like I do. A YKW mole owner has literally wrecked the team by making a woman the de facto GM
IM NOT even sure if intentional or just in their nature or a mind disease but YKW IS feminism !!!!!
Read up on miami dolphins blogs for background. Basically dawn aponte got GM fired using standard woman in an office tactics. Now the team can’t find a new GM who even wants to come to this once flagship franchise.
Aponte also gives head coach cue cards to read at pressers and is fucking the coach or owner or both.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/24/3889206/miami-dolphins-gm-candidate-ray.html
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Hey CH and commenters, I have a question for y’all: You’ve done a lot of talking about asshole text game, but can you please explain what’s going on with the dick text game? I mean, the unsolicited dick pics. What’s up with the unsolicited dick pics? I straight-up don’t get it. I’ll get an opening text, usually something sort of noncommittal. I’ll respond to the opening text. And then, two or three texts in…BOOM! PENIS TIME!
This question has been brought to you by my text inbox, which currently resembles the Museum of Modern Dicks. And the letter D.
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At first I wasn’t going to click that, but then I thought…what the hell, carpe diem.
And I’m so glad I did.
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It’s just projection. These guys think that because men are visual, women will probably be too.
There is also the subversive (well, getting less and less subversive anyway) aspect of sending a picture of your dick to a stranger
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That makes a sort of sense, I guess. But it inevitably just comes out of nowhere. It’s like…
HIM: Hey, it’s so-and-so, nice to meet you yesterday
ME: Oh yeah, too bad it was so cold out there
HIM: So what you up to
ME: Some chores, you?
HIM: [DICK PIC]
I mean…what the hell?
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Just ‘next’ Rap. You must be interacting with children, to be candid.
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Oh, I do. Unsolicited dick pic=no reply, number blocked.
But…these aren’t teenagers; they’re grown-ass men with careers. They walk among us, dude.
[CH: Texting actual dick pics is bad game. Texting ASCII dicks is good game. 8===D]
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You could also send back a selection from the Museum, “with compliments.”
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Your mystified stance about this is troubling. We have an entire generation of men that have been raised by women, no father figure, and basically think that sex is very much like what they see in porn. The younger half of this generation have basically only ever talked to girls through a phone.
Dick pics are NEVER, never… did I say never? Ok. Ever. But again you are dealing with the lost boys. Anthony Wiener is their posterboy. You are an older chick so you are only getting half the story.
Go find out what 20 something girls have to deal with. Interestingly though… girls are becoming so fucking dumb and desensitized that porn is also starting to affect them. So for every unsolicited dick pic a 20 year old receives, she may or may not return a duck-face with her tits hanging out.
These, the majority, will be running this country in a decade or so. Jesus Wept…
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The only reason a man would transmit dick-picks is that it has worked a significant percentage of the time. I would say, 50% of the time, given the disapprobation that occurs with more aspiring females. Markets are efficient.
So, on the one hand, blame the sisters as well as the brothers. On the other hand, filter much?
Most of the work I’ve done in the last year, with the kind assistance of the more articulate and experienced here and elsewhere, has to do with filters. I commend the effort.
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“What’s up?”
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Delusional RD – you are an old divorcee shemale hag, who chain-smokes, drinks whiskey, hunts deer, has a man-jaw, chemically neutered herself by choice, and you are as flat as a Chinese boy.
You have ridden the cock-carousel of thugs that have beaten and even raped you your entire life.
Do you really think you can afford to be picky? Serious question.
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again i am flattered
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Why a Chinese boy? Does this mean you’ve been making a study of the bodies of very young men of different races? Serious question.
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lzozlzozlzozo poor little modern feminists, the HB6s Amy Poehler and Tina Fey, actually think a man like Clooney should be with a woman his own age
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/22/george-clooney-tina-fey-amy-poehler_n_4645214.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment
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It’s actually no laughing matter, because their female followers thing they are right. So a normal 38 year old single man today is fucked, but not in the proper way.
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Do they?
That’s the kind of joke that celebrates someone….
The longer I do this the easier it is to translate blue pill speak.
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Don’t worry about this stuff. Sure a lot of women date for their girlfriends, cut their hair for the Sisterhood, just as they really dress for their girlfriends and choose jobs that the Sisterhood administer. So it’s some sort of merit badge to date a putz 10 years younger than the girl is. Ignore all that.
Just ignore them. If a girl dresses up for you, has long hair, makes you coffee in the morning, and does a couple of other things, she can parrot any whack-job feminist she wants, as far as I am concerned. They’re obsessed with fitting in, and the rhetoric is how they fit in with their girl-crowd.
My current flame is a sex-positive, sexual-outlaw, UC Berkeley PhD, radical feminist sort. She says. She mocked me for my prior life of monogamy. She mocked me for my use of condoms. She mocked me for going home a couple of times when she wanted to rock and roll. So our first few dates were filled with endless shit-tests and demonstrations in favor of The Cause, all of which I sort of laughed off, shrugged my shoulders at, and said, “Well, none of that’s really true, or you wouldn’t be dating me. You talk tough, but I know tougher Mormon girls.” She has a troubled past as a diplomat in some very famous Arabic and Pashtun-speaking shitholes over the past 10 years. She’s 17 years younger than I am, is a size 2, and wears Louboutins to breakfast in Adams Morgan. We cook, do the hookah thing, talk about books, and fuck a lot.
Here’s the punch line. She (like most women) lied about her age online (which is where we met.) I don’t lie about my age. She’d presented herself to me as being 22 years younger. So then she felt bad and said, “I just thought I should let you know in case you want to back out.” I said, “I didn’t think you were XX anyway.” So Ms. Progressive thought I might drop her because she’s only 17 years younger than I.
Most people are pretty good people, even if they are distracted by the rhetoric of the matriarchy. Trust me, they don’t *really* want to run things, these women. They don’t know how, they do know there are bad people in the world (some first hand), and they do know that the men are the problem solvers and weapons-carriers. The more serious the woman, the more educated: I would say the more realistic she is about what she is good at and what we men are good at. I find that if I just ignore the feminist skirmishing, the real woman emerges and is all the more interested. If I have any problem with my girl here, it’s her former access to SOF and former SOF contractors: she knows what a real man looks like, and whether or not he can field strip an M-4.
FYI, this woman was very frustrated with me during the early moments of our fling, as I was insufficiently dominant. I explained that she would have to earn that, as I wanted to know if she was the ‘call the cops’ sort, and … she did.
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“Earn it” that is. Probity requires me to make clear she never went regret-sex on me; quite the opposite. The other ambiguity relates to her life living with SOF operational types; I am the analytical, not operational, type. When I told her about one of my best friends, who is ex-SOF and now a banker, she blushed. She may be an alpha widow to my dedicated sigma ambitions.
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I’m glad to see you are now realizing your SMV and getting away from the old DC hags for something more your league. Based on everything you have said here about yourself your -minimum buy in- should be 15 years younger. You had an odd notion that you cannot find intelligent, educated, and rather deluded women in their 30s and even 20s. Apparently, you have rectified this fallacy.
Hot tip for ‘UC Berkeley’— First ask her how she can reconcile her rather radical feminist agenda with the fact that SOC men are the ones she is most attracted to in spite of the fact that they tend to be absurdly partiarchal? Two, ask her how she can remotely reconcile her knowledge of a feminist agenda when she still realizes ‘men are problem solvers, and weapon carriers’. This is called cognitive dissonance.
And lastly, it doesn’t matter what happens in 1 and 2 above. The next time you have sex now that you know she isn’t a ‘call the cops’ sort, as she is (hopefully) approaching orgasm put your hand around her throat. No pressure at first. Just see what she does. If she doesn’t freak out, and I don’t think she will, keep it there. As she approaches climax start to squeeze more tightly. The first time, nothing uncomfortable just a gentle but noticeable pressure.
You pull this off, and she will be licking your asshole within a month and will denounce her feminist claptrap in favor of a classic society. I’m here to help…
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If *I* can be dating hot girls 20 years younger than me, George Clooney should DEFINITELY be smoking hot dating girls in their 20s. Because. He. Can.
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He does, you do, we do. It’s what some fraction of the female population wants: leadership, confidence, expertise. It’s always been thus. If that’s what you want ignore the noise and find the girls who agree with you.
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eh. im almost 39 and I have a 21 yo Cara Delevingne lookalike sitting on my couch in a cheap apartment playing MineCraft with my 8 yo son who’s mom just turned 31.
and i look like Peter Freuchen with two legs and a trimmed white beard but he probably smells better.
limiting beliefs are just that.
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Half of that is true anyway.
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your right, few weeks till my birthday
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Supposedly only 1 in 50 US citizens is YKW, only 1 in 9 even in New York, yet they are literally 90% of all mainstream media “journalists.” How can that be?
Just click on any random article in any major city newspaper. Does not even have to be the Jew York Beta Times or Wash Post….chances are 80% that the writer will be YKW, regardless of the section of the paper you’re in. Why?
Look also at the population chart. There are hardly any YKWs at all in the southern and midwestern farm country states where real manual labor that produces food is conducted.
Betty Friedland and that other one invaded our culture and purposely set the seeds of destruction in motion.
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What’s this stupid YKW thing so many are using here? Is it a respelling of the word “Jew” to avoid having to type that word too much? An attempt to be a hipster? Does it stand for “You Know Who”?
Come on, don’t be pussies and try and disguise yourselves. Don’t buy into the Main Stream paradigm that you can’t malign those of jewish ancestry who keep outing themselves as society destroying parasites.
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Well, YKW/jews are very useful in ensuring papist / chinkojapogook types dont get too much power and perturb the apple cart’s travel. So there you have them in the middle management an propaganda positions of the orgchart. But the applecart sooner of later, will be hurtling on a downhill path it cannot handle (As surely as Water will wet us).
When jews make convenient scapegoats (with the caveat that somehow the Lazard Freres accolytes escape and only smallfry a la Otto Frank (or my grand-dad’s biz partners) end up in the camps.
So, Imean sure as symptom of the diseasesure, but as the deus-ex-machina. Insulting actually.
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“A true alpha will put a bun in her oven and leave…”
Been there, done that… Rinse and repeat… Just make sure that she has a beta to blame for being the father, and you’re good to go.
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and they ALL seem to be married 7-8.5’s in my neck of the woods too…..
used to be a contest with me and a baller buddy: how fast will a girl “lose” her friends and strip off a wedding ring from the moment she sees ya on a “ho’s night out”.
best time by a girl worth banging, 3 min.
none of em wanted to use a condom or would literally strip it off ya.
dirty sloooots.
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O.T. : I like this site: http://thechive.com/2014/01/24/there-are-sexy-chivers-among-us-95-photos-6/ Lots of HB faces looking back at you as you scroll down. Cool calibration/get-in-state practice: look at each of the girls on this page and say, “Hey, how’s it going. I’m insert-your-name-here,” to each pic. Good practice seeing a shit-ton of pretty faces and saying hi and introducing yourself. I noticed as I did this a few time I calibrated how I said the line depending on the perceived personality of the girl in each picture. Fun to do right before you go to a bar too; kind of like getting in state by talking to people in line at the bar before you go in.
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forgot to mention … it’s good practice with not breaking eye contact.
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I think it’s really a question of playing to your alpha strengths and minimizing your beta weaknesses. For instance, asshole game will work great for some who have predisposed personality traits towards assholery and will not work for others.
“Funny/cocky” will work for some.. Aloof game still for others.
As someone who’s more introverted, I’m not particularly funny… I’m also not really an asshole. Just don’t have those personality traits and “faking it till you make it” to try and wedge cocky/funny or asshole into my game would come across as completely contrived and unconvincing. It would be inauthentic and I’d look like a fool.
But man, I can play aloof game or amused mastery game with the best of them. Here’s an example:
I travel a lot for work and am often by myself in cities where I don’t know anyone. Have a favorite watering hole in one of these cities where I’ve gotten to know the manager. Went in to the bar last night and there was a new bartendress — smoking hot Latina 9 with long jet black curly hair, dark, killer body. Beautiful eyes, great ass, etc.
She came to take my order and I gave her a half second cursory glance before ordering a beer and then responding to emails on my iPhone. She brought my beer and I said thanks without even looking up at her. Paid her absolutely no attention whatsoever.
Then I noticed that she started hovering. It was a big long bar, all the other scrotes were clammering to chat her up, but she literally ended up camping out right in front of me… Kept coming back to home base in front of me without me even acknowledging her except to order another beer. Manager came and sat down with me for about 30 minutes to talk (social proof) and I noticed her constantly staring at me out of the corner of my eye.
Here’s the kicker… I throw a $20 on the table to pay for my beer and leave, she comes back with the change and *BANG*, I go for the kill… Look her square in the eye, hold her gaze, smirk and say “What’s your name?” She starts vomiting out words… “I’m so and so, I’m from… blah, blah, blah” Me: “What do you do so and so?” “Blah, blah, blah.”
She’s throwing off IOI’s left and right… Fidgeting, playing with her hair, touching her neck, leaning over the bar. I can see that she’s actually nervous.
Me (after about 5 minutes of chit chat) “Nice to meet you. See you around.”
Her reply? “Why are you leaving so soon?”
Me: “Gotta get home”
Her (with an almost plaintive look in her eyes): “Well, I’m working tomorrow if you’re around”
Me: “We’ll see”
And I walk out of the bar.
Will I go back tonight? Maybe… And I’ll do the same aloof push/pull all over again.
The point of all this: I was beta as a motherfucker could be a few years ago — cringeworthy so. I would try and up the alpha in the past by trying to be funny or trying to be an asshole and would always end up frustrated as shit… That is until I finally recognized that my personality is particularly suited to a *specific* kind of game: Quiet, dark, mysterious, aloof.
I’ll never be the life of the party… I’ll never have chicks laughing at my jokes or crowding around me… I don’t even like crowds. It’s just not in my DNA.
In one sense the “just be yourselfers” are right… Adapt your game to your specific personality traits and play to those strengths.
One final point: I’m married (happily) and I don’t cheat. I keep my game as tight as possible for one reason only… It’s an insurance policy. If I’m ever served with divorce papers, my goal is to have PIV of someone new within 48 hours.
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I dunno. It just seems necessary that, in order for a man to keep acting in a way that will in turn keep his SO attracted, a man must have a harem.
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Or for his SO to always know that he has readily available options.
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Sitting at a bar a few weeks ago and a hot little rich drunk girl from Connecticut sidles up. Just a total bitch. I ignore her and then say something smart ass to her. She says “you’re a total player. Why do you have to be such a douchebag.”
I smirk and say, “Well aren’t we rather cunty this evening” and turn away.
Sploosh! She spends the next 20 minutes trying to get my attention.
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The gals that these comment-sections attract is fucking depressing: useless, old and washed up tramps like Amy and in denial manosphere-groupies like Kate. All so eager to prove us wrong that the red pill isn’t as red or true and we shouldn’t be so harsh on them because they got what they did wrong. NAWALT by any other name…
Sad.
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I don’t think either of them are trying to convince anyone that red isn’t red. It’s just that since we’re embracing realism and truth here, one of the hard pills some of you are going to have to swallow is that very few of us actually escaped the programming entirely.
So in your crusade, you must provide some means of redemption rather than just slaughtering everything in your path, if you want it to be sustainable and not die in less than one generation.
Right now, the vast majority of young women in western countries are a wash. They’re being encouraged to sell their virginity for shiny beads, waste their youths partying and/or studying and/or working for the wrong thing, and nobody with any say in their lives is telling them otherwise, except religious hypocrites with their own set of rotten ways.
Even you men, who should be as fiercely seeking to secure and impregnate the few who aren’t completely torn up as you are to tear it up, are wasting your youths…which last a bit longer than women’s youths, but still ends just as surely.
If, by some miracle, a woman manages to wake up, you don’t have to fuck her, but you should encourage her awakening. For sure, her understanding to take better real care of her health, dress like a girl, and be selective but not a ball cutter of the worthy, makes her more fuckable than she was as a “slut” rhinestoned sweatpants sporting or equivalent sheep.
Save your bitterness for those who refuse to wake up despite the wrecking of their own and others’ lives.
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I gamed a girl online to test this one. Background…my profile already said i was a family man…and this chick smiled me first.
Hey wats up?
12:59 p.m.
her
Hey spunk hows you. Sorry for no reply ive just been so busy with work. how are you? Im hardly ever online would you prefer to text Me? Dont worry im not a text stalker I never text unless the guy does plus im always working.
1:58 p.m.
Sat 1 Feb 2014
me
All play and no fun? Sure whats ur txt?
1:13 p.m.
her
xxxxxxxx my name is xxx
1:42 p.m.
Mon 3 Feb 2014
me
So…photo?
6:21 p.m.
her
Hey your a spunk I know cos ive served you but from what I saw your also a family guy (as you had 2 boys with you) and I aint into that. Sorry but goodluck to you
6:58 p.m.
me ( punchline)
Haaaaaa
7:04 p.m.Read at 7:05 p.m. today
her
And I mean I aint into being like a thinn gap …. what you laughing at? You dont think I’ve served you aye.
me no contact. Really couldn’t care less…thought i would gather some CH fodder for yall to splurge.
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