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Picky Men

January 29, 2014 by CH

The alt-internet is a strange land where you can find people who appear to have lived in a hermetically sealed Tyvek bubble since birth, and have escaped all interaction with reality. A recent example of this reality-cushioned subspecies is the obligate sperg — male or female — who believes, with absolutely no supporting evidence beside the whispers her hamster breathes into her brain ear, that men exercise no discretion when choosing a mate.

You’ll see this type litter comment sections of blogs whenever the discussion turns, however tangentially, to the horrifying and bowel-shaking notion that men actually prefer to bang and commit to prettier women at the expense of uglier women, and that this preference likely contributed to the evolution of beauty in women, particularly the women of certain races. On the Ugly Truth scale, mentioning that in medicated company is the equivalent of casually noting the vast (and increasingly puzzling, based on current performance) overrepresentation in elite institutions of 2% of the population.

But as anyone who has lived a day in his life knows, men are choosy. (I’m looking at you, Satoshi Kanazawa.) Go to a bar or a nightclub and AMAZE YOURSELF at the sight of so many men gunning for the attention of best in show, and how that best in show as judged by men are, PECULIARLY, often the same three girls. And then notice to your UTTER STUPEFACTION how so many men ignore the overtures of the less attractive girls, even at closing time when, legend has it, men become sex-hungry dogs incapable of controlling their impulses.

No, men are not dogs. Men are discerning dogs. Yes, men like to hump, but they do so with an eye for quality. Male choosiness is real, and while it’s not the equivalent of female choosiness in breadth or intensity, it exists, and it has likely shaped who we are today, and how our women look today. Intriguingly, there have been environments in the distant past when the sex ratio was so skewed by premature male deaths that the few lucky men left alive had a bounty of mate options that would seem incomprehensible to most men alive today, save for the über famous or obscenely wealthy. And since men, almost to the exclusion of all other considerations, prefer sex with hotter women to sex with plainer women, it’s a small logical leap to infer that, given favorable sexual market conditions, men will choose to fuck more often, and more vigorously, the prettiest of women from among all the women. And from that, men will choose to invest their resources in those prettier women, ensuring that their children have a survival advantage over the children of uglier women.

Rinse with sperm and repeat for a thousand years, and you’ve got a race of women who look as if they’ve been touched by the chisel of God.

And the male impulse toward polygyny needn’t be dismissed out of hand for this to work. Simply impose environmental constraints on the amount of resources any one man can amass and thus distribute among multiple women, and he will be nudged in the direction of favoring with his cooperation and sexual gift only those women who most stiffen his splitter. Even a small nudge in this direction can produce massive long-term generational change in the looks of women. An alpha male in possession of a few extra furs and stores of winter grain, who services, say, four women, will plow harder, and plow more often, the best looking of his harem. Over time, and patterned similarly among other men like him, this targeted ardor will lead to differentials in reproductive fitness between the women.

But enough of the theorizing. You don’t need computational geneticists to prove to you what your own eyes can see any night in a crowded bar. So get the hell out of your lala land, internet sperg, and join the human race. You might learn a thing or two.

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  1. on January 29, 2014 at 11:49 am Customer Service

    “Rinse with sperm and repeat for a thousand years, and you’ve got a race of women who look as if they’ve been touched by the chisel of God.”

    Whites? Or the Rus/Altai women mentioned in a previous thread?

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 2:52 pm The Other Jim

      I don’t think you need a thousand years to see the results. I think we’ve seen it play out over the past century in Russia. I wonder if the results of all those Purges by Stalin, the Holodomor, and World War II left Russia(& Eastern Europe) with a lot of excess women for those lucky surviving men who could afford to be choosy. In effect, for the male survivors of Russia after 1945, they had the pick of the female litter and could set the rules, perhaps explains why Russian & Eastern European women tend to be quite hot. Still, they tend to age quite badly. I’m not sure if that’s because of the weather or lifestyle of having to live in Russia or something else.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:37 pm corvinus

        Yeah, I remember seeing a photo of Russian women from about 1900 and they were total plain janes. Meanwhile, the UK has never suffered a mass cull in its recent history, except a relatively minor one during WW1.

        I also think enforcement of monogamy and prohibition of divorce helps — think of the women in Catholic countries versus those in Muslim ones. Men with options won’t invest in their one possible woman if she’s a fug. (This also would appear to suggest that women in the West will be getting uglier for the foreseeable future.)

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 7:40 pm Bob Wallace

        The catastrophic losses England endured in WWI left two million women with no hope of getting married and having a home and children. The English suffered almost a million deaths and about 1.6 million wounded. Out of a population of a little over 45 million.

        You shouldn’t use the word “culling.” You’re only making a fool out of yourself.

        By the way, there is old saying: “Mars takes the best.” If you don’t know who Mars is, look it up.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:27 pm corvinus

        I’ll consider myself rebuked. Regardless, the rest of Europe has suffered far worse, and even in WW1, England outsourced much of its fighting (and losses) to Scotland, Canada, and Australia.

        And WW2 left European countries to the west of Germany largely untouched. “Mars takes the best” means the best men die, but the corollary is that the surviving men take the best women. Countries that have had a lot of men die in wars (or other causes, *cough* commies *cough*) thus seem to have lower-quality men and higher-quality women.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:36 am Glengarry

        And consider that cousin marriage in the middle east means a greater degree of inbreeding and so more genetic defects. Beyond yon pass lie the exotic cities of fug and tard.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:29 pm corvinus

        It’ll be interesting to see the effects of declining birth rates on Muslim cousin-f*ckers.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:44 pm Hyperborean

        Those who support this theory seem to be ignoring the fact that the mass culling of males in Russia was directed at the elite leadership stratum of the population.

        The Bolshevist’s cut the head off the Russian nation. They systematically murdered the best Russian men in order to prevent anyone from organizing the masses against them. The best male genetic material was basically surgically removed from the population and destroyed.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 7:00 pm The Other Jim

        That may have been true in the initial Bolshevik Revolution and the Red-White War and Stalin’s Purges. However, by WWII, with a decimated officer corp, the Soviets under Stalin were just throwing masses of men, usually the poor, uneducated proletariat at the Nazi’s and the casualty numbers prove it.

        I know it’s teh Wiki but…:

        “The purge of the Red Army and Military Maritime Fleet removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to five-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to three- and four-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts),[28] 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars.”

        It was that kind of loss of leadership that led to the loss of over 20 million Soviet men(21% of the Soviet male pop.) vs. 6.5 million Soviet women(about 6.4% of the Female Soviet pop).

        All of this supports the theory that for the surviving men if the USSR, they were in a buyers market for women and could leverage the lack of men for better looking women. Perhaps with a mistress or two on the side.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 7:43 pm Bob Wallace

        The same thing happened in the War Between the States, when the South lost a quarter of its military-age male population. The most intelligent – the officer class – were slaughtered. Anyone who thinks there is anything good about the “culling” in war doesn’t have a clue as to what they are talking about.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 8:30 pm Anonymous

        Guess who was behind both wars.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 10:56 pm Matthew

        Sodomites.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:15 am irishsavant

        Same people who cut the head off the Gentile population in the former USSR.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:43 am SFG

        Wait, wait, wait.

        I know Lenin was a quarter YKW, and Trotsky 100%. But Lincoln and Davis were YKW? The only YKW was Judah P. Benjamin, and he was on the Confederate side…

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:23 am A Random Guy

        Now don’t let facts confuse the issue here 🙂

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:03 am Greg Eliot

        But Lincoln and Davis were YKW?

        Well, with a name like Abraham… and then there’s that story about walking 7 miles in the snow to return a library book and save the 3 cent fine?

        The evidence mounts! llzozozlzlzozozozlzlzozozolzlzlzozozlzlzl

        Oh, wait a minute… there ain’t supposed to be no ham in a Jewish name.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:31 pm corvinus

        Wait, wait, wait.

        I know Lenin was a quarter YKW, and Trotsky 100%. But Lincoln and Davis were YKW? The only YKW was Judah P. Benjamin, and he was on the Confederate side…

        You’re right. It was the YKW’s b!tchboys, the Freemasons. And there were lots and lots of Freemasons in the USA at the time.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:47 pm SFG

        The *Freemasons*? What does that have to do with YKW? The Freemasons were a bunch of Northern White Anglo-Saxon Protestant rich guys who were relatively left-wing for the era (they didn’t like the church, and were behind the American Revolution).

        It’s one thing to point out that YKW control the media and use it to promote left-wing ideas. This is obvious to anyone. But it’s not as if every left-wing movement throughout history is a YKW front. The industrial North wanted no competition from the slaveholding South, and didn’t want them leaving. The French bourgeoisie were sick of paying taxes to the king. The modern greenies are worried about global warming, etc. Labor unions wanted more money.

        As for Communism, which had a huge YKW contingent (as is obvious from perusing lists of CPUSA members)…sure it might have been partially driven by hatred of Christianity, but a lot of workers were pretty sick of working 12 hours a day and getting squat for it.

        Just because nobody talks about something important doesn’t mean it explains *everything*.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:59 pm Anonymous

        It has recently been proven that Lenin’s mother was YKW. He, like most of the Gentiles in the Bolshevik movement, was married to a YKW woman. Lenin was also a rabid philosemite perhaps to blend in.

        As far as the Civil War was concerned, it was primarily NY banking interests who were pushing the tariff issue which led to secession. They play both sides as needed. Lincoln was also assassinated over his expressed desire to print our own money again. Booth was a convenient patsy to commit the crime. Every president who was assassinated was contemplating this same move removing the nation from the Rothschild teat.

        I resent YKW control over our culture, but most of it is just making a buck from peoples’ base desires. It can be effectively challenged with open observation and discussion, hence all the efforts to make calling out the true culprits illegal through hate crime legislation. There is a hardcore minority of determined Zionists who are the foot soldiers of world Zionism who are in league with International finance.

        The rest, if they even think you aren’t nuts, run the gamut in their sympathies to Zionism and have no control over the movement or its success. This cabal’s rise corresponds with Moses Hess’ influence and atheism. Ethnic networking and the resultant reinforcing economic relationships are the weapons of choice.

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 5:25 am LexSex

        Dont forget about the “wonderful” Genrikh Yagoda. About freemasons, they have infiltrated and are no Kabbalistic Freemasons. Much different. Also, all the Non-catholics, funny how the Potocols and the masons call for the destruction of the catholic church. When in doubt hold fast to the traditions as St. Paul says. Guess what the early church fathers practiced who HELD fast to the traditions? DING DING DING

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 9:24 pm Supramax

        You are assuming that the best of Russian men made it to the top of a Communist organization. That’s unlikely – that was not a meritocracy and they were really not too removed from serfdom (which allowed extremely limited upward mobility) when that all went down. There are other reasons Russia is a mess but that’s not one of them. It’s been said that every country more or less has the government that it deserves. In my opinion Russia is the perfect example. I went to the last big Anti-Putin Protest and on the long walk to the protest I passed tens of thousands of ….shoppers. When I got to the protest it was clearly not a mainstream movement -although well attended, it was 95% (or more) people on the margins of society: students, professors, activists, hipsters. I saw nary a well dressed person (and very very few decent looking women) in the entire crowd.

        I recall a quote I read once: “We could have had a revolution but we shopped…..”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:17 pm Ternarydaemon

        Also take into account that Eastern Europe had communism, a high cultural level, developed social aestetique, limited economic opportunities, slim to none social mobility, no feminism (as far as the social psique is concerned), and traditional family values.

        As for men, consider the demographic effects of multiple wars and a welfare state which allowed a percentage of men to indulge in alcohol, tobacco and laziness while putting the minimum effort in life. Collectivized housing, free heating in winter, lots of cheap vodka, food rations and social security.

        Such conditions made many Eastern European women more proclive to invest into their physical beauty as their main asset to grab the favor of a male of good standing and economic security.

        However, many Eastern European women are gorgeous in their early 20s only because of genetics. They hit the Wall with great force. Low amount of melanine, fair complexion and lack of a healthy lifestyle makes them to look like melted adipose tissue by 28-32.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm L

      I lived with a Russian, I’ve been in Russia. I am part Russian. They are not that special. You’re all very strange.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:18 am irishsavant

        L, I agree with you. I have spent a lot of time there as well aan while Russian girls are generally pretty they’re not exceptionally so vis-à-vis other northern Europeans. I think the impression derives from the fact that the Russian population is very big, hence the absolute number of stunners is going to be high.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:52 am Wolfie65

        The fascination of the male American internet population with Russian girls stems from a wide variety of ‘mail order bride’ type websites, which feature pictures of thousands of fantastically gorgeous girls, along with profile texts that read so perfect, they are fit to make a grown man cry. Contrast that with the overweight, feminist-ized, quasi-lesbian battle axes with enough attitude to start world wars 1, 2 and 3 all in the same afternoon they meet in real life, and the myth of the pussy paradise east of the Niemen is born. Few if any of the guys have ever met a Russian, been to Russia (or anywhere near it), understand any Russian or have even the most basic clue what they’re talking about.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:06 am Col Nicholson

        And yet, in Joseph Heller’s “Catch-22” (1961) a character refers to the “fabled white-Russian pussy,” IIRC.

        Maybe this was just another brick in the myth but it captured my imagination when I read it in the eighth grade. Seems like all the hot ass is always in the next town/country over.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:58 am Greg Eliot

        Back in my day, I devoured that book, like a good little goy.

        Don’t recall that line… you’re probably mistaking it with another book.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:23 pm Col Nicholson

        @G E

        You are correct. The line about white-Russians appears in the short story “Love Day” by William Styron concerning a young Marine lieutenant about to invade Okinawa.

        Gettin’ my WWII fiction mixed up. Thanks.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:42 pm Greg Eliot

        Styron, eh?

        Figured it had to be from one of their lickspittle shabboz goyim K-Seal-Of-Approval writers.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:39 am CarpeOro

        Been to Russia, got laid there. Secret of many of those sites (and internet dating in general) is discovering how recent the pics are. Subtract seven years from any pic of a woman over 30 as a start point for that hot pic. Then add thirty pounds on up as they age. Many Russian women fare very poorly over the long haul and the petite 23 year old will be getting chunky by 30. Of course the pics will be the boner inducing 23 year old. Lesson learned and epic fail avoided.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:45 pm culprette

        It’s enough to make one suspect – Feminism is just a big plot by
        Russian and Filipino travel agents – ‘”You’ll never find a decent woman in America – Go Over$ea$, young man!””

        (Plane tickets, hotel bills, candy flowers, dinner drinks nightclubs, gotta
        chase that beta male dollar)

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 6:36 pm Wolfie65

        Much truth there. I haven’t been to Russia, but to various other Warsaw Pact countries – with the Iron Curtain still in full effect, although it was rather more aluminum in some spots – and the beauty of their women was not something I noticed. Generally, eastern European women seem to age similar to Hispanics. Lots of hotties in their teens and 20’s, who turn into Frankenstein’s monster’s grandma by 35.

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  2. on January 29, 2014 at 11:55 am burke

    off topic a little but fun http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/10603957/Large-testicles-mean-greater-infidelity-research-finds.html

    “Male lions have huge balls. All the females in the pride must have sex at the same time. When the female lions in the pride are in heat, he must mate with all the females every half-hour for three days.”

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 11:57 am burke

      actually the more interesting part is that our human testicles proclaim the infidelity of our women: “The testicles of humans are one and a half times larger than those of gorillas…’there is always a certain likelihood that the neighbouring male has dropped by.'”

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  3. on January 29, 2014 at 11:57 am Reservoir Tip

    Beauty is a social construct.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:05 pm Wrecked 'Em

      Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

      No.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm Tilikum

      so is gender !!!!! ;P

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 pm Heywood Jablome

      Heh.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:36 pm Hillary 2016

      [I am the west]

      Race is a social construct.
      Age is a social construct.
      Gravity is a social construct.
      The Sun is a social construct.
      Water is a social construct.
      Light is a social construct.
      Hydrogen is a social construct.
      Your dog is a social construct.

      [bullets lined up]

      We are all equally intelligent
      and beautiful
      and productive
      and experienced
      and sized.

      [placed into magazine]

      Global warming is real, and Goldman Sachs will help protect us from it, because they care.
      You have an invisible knapsack, and you must acknowledge the boundless privileges it gives you.
      The things that Rihanna and Miley Cyrus do are important, for they are wonderful and gifted artists.

      [click]

      MMphph..
      Immuffgration ppormoffes the ecommohnomy…
      Federull Resermuph wil promophe employumenn…
      [drool slides down barrel]

      ….

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:28 pm Canadian Friend

        The idea of social construct is a social construct.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 3:26 pm chi-town

      A demolished opinion.

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  4. on January 29, 2014 at 11:58 am Maya

    CH, serious question: do you ever date people you meet on the internet?

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:28 pm Heywood Jablome

      Every girl but you.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:39 am ho

        Cruel

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 4:41 pm BlackPoisonSoul

      Maya, still gunning for the love-machine that is CH. Good luck chicky.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:18 pm Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

      CH isn’t one man. He is a movement.

      Hope you like gang bangs.

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      • on February 3, 2014 at 9:17 pm ✖ (@filesofnerds)

        This.

        And [this](http://www.evoandproud.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-new-european-phenotype-expansion.html) has a huge penis as its caption image.

        CH as a movement is at least the size of that geographeme penis.

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  5. on January 29, 2014 at 12:00 pm corvinus

    And the male impulse toward polygyny needn’t be dismissed out of hand for this to work. Simply impose environmental constraints on the amount of resources any one man can amass and thus distribute among multiple women, and he will be nudged in the direction of favoring with his cooperation and sexual gift only those women who most stiffen his splitter.

    Although we should also note that the members of polygamous races (Muslims, sub-Saharan Africans) are on average uglier than monogamous ones. Reason being, I suppose, because in polygamy, the ugliest women do get married off to a man and have a chance at being impregnated, whereas in monogamous cultures, the ugly broads are more likely to be left as old maids. (In the Bible, think of Leah and Rachel. If Jacob was monogamous, he would have runnoft with Rachel, and Leah would never have reproduced, at least with Jacob.)

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 pm The Burninator

      “runnoft”

      Assuming he wasn’t turned inta a frog.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm thwack

      corvinus

      Although we should also note that the members of polygamous races (Muslims, sub-Saharan Africans) are on average uglier than monogamous ones.
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      Ive said it before and I’ll say it again; In order to make a choice, you need a set of traits to choose from. It is the original people, the black people who have the greatest genetic diversity; it is from this pool that all other people emerged.

      You may not think its important, you may think its ugly, but we are God’s insurance policy (along with monotremes) against shallow water black out because when it all comes down, the only question is whether you can complete the pass for another 1st down.

      You don’t get points for yardage.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:38 pm Anon

        Nice try, but all evidence shows that Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens are two different species.

        Jew paleontologists argue otherwise, but you know the deal.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:23 pm JohnnyBoy

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/science/neanderthals-leave-their-mark-on-us.html?hpw&rref=science

        Not quite. It now seems that some people (only Europeans and some Asians) have Neanderthal DNA in them. They’re finding out that DNA having to do with at least skin and hair is common in non-Africans today.

        Combine that with superior Neanderthal brain size (http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2008/09/09/neanderthal/), and a picture starts to paint itself.

        “After birth, Neanderthal brains grew faster than those of modern humans, but they had to reach larger adult brain sizes. Faster growth did not imply earlier completion of growth, the scientists said.

        Growing large brains at a fast pace is an energy-intensive process, which can only be sustained by large, late-maturing mothers.”Compared to modern humans, it thus appears that Neanderthals had somewhat slower life histories,” the researchers said. This meant they reached sexual maturity later and may have lived longer.”

        I read “large, late-maturing mothers” as “bitches with big tits and supporting husbands”

        [CH: Yeah, large doesn’t necessarily mean fat. It could mean large-framed and tall, like modern Nordics.]

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 8:44 pm Rum

        Back in 2008-9 it was still safe for equalists to discuss the fact that Neanderthals had big brains because it was not yet believed, much less demonstrable, that N genes for the making of big brains survived.
        They are so busted.
        National Geographic Magazine is in full damage control mode trying to say now that N. genes influenced skin development. Any 1st year student of embryology knows that epidermal = neurological.
        I am a nice person. Really. But I would sleep better after I killed them.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm Matthew

        “Compared to modern humans, it thus appears that Neanderthals had somewhat slower life histories”

        Jack Cuozzo got there first.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:32 pm thwack

        Anon

        Nice try, but all evidence shows that Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens are two different species
        ——————————————————————————————–

        So what is your point Kofi?

        Andy had 100,000 years to “get it together”; what happened?

        Was it the joos?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:43 pm Tilikum

        not this shit.

        r/K

        post fail.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm strawberryblocks

        in joolywood, white knight whiteguy sacrifices life to get bombed out preggo somalian to safety

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm Mr.B

        The new trend in Africa is having white babies (half-castes) so Africa looks like it is going to get a lot whiter while the the West gets darker, interesting future ahead of us.

        http://infoboxx.com/index.php/component/k2/item/352-hotcake-half-caste-baby-business-booming-in-ghana-got-3000

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm corvinus

        Nah… only for a small slice of the wealthier population. It won’t make a bit of difference for the vast majority of Africa’s booming population.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm Theodore Logan

        Hat hair hooligan can’t help herself from playin’ wit de old white woman’s hair, even in hymiewood.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm thwack

        Swing and a miss Ted. Thats not a hair hat; and her behavior is not “play”; it is communication.

        It may be the reason you are here today and “Andy” is not?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:03 pm Theodore Logan

        And yet you are using a work of fiction as a documentary??? No limit negro logic at its best again. You da man muhfuka! Ha five!

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:28 pm thwack

        Theodore Logan

        And yet you are using a work of fiction as a documentary???
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        No Ted, remember?

        We have a COMMUNICATION PROBLEM.

        Look beyond the “hair play” and see what is really occuring.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:12 am Greg Eliot

        Thwack has a personal library of these “facts” he loves to post…

        So, playing with another person’s hair is a form of communication?

        You mean like when you’re well-known to each other and being romantic (as opposed to whatever it is that is happening in this (ahem) documentary)?

        Or like when baboons pick lice off one another?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot

        So, playing with another person’s hair is a form of communication?
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        No Greg; the hair braiding is just the MEDIUM for the elastic exchange of ideas among these females via WORDS.

        Words ni66a WORDS!

        Ok so why not while gathering berries or collecting firewood?

        Because, when a female is having her hair braided, she is made calm, relaxed and confident she will not be harmed. Thats the BEST time to talk to her; matter of fact, thats the best time to talk to anybody.

        Its called a RELATIONSHIP Greg; And its still the best way to produce, exchange and refine culture using WORDS.

        The reason this is so difficult for Greg to understand is because all his personal interactions are ARRANGEMENTS masquerading as relationships.

        Thats why he has to read from the book; he knows he can’t duck me forever.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm Greg Eliot

        The usual babble from the usual suspect… with a soupçon of Cyberian outhouse psychiatry thrown in for good measure.

        Miss me with that shit.
        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:58 pm Greg Eliot

        Its called a RELATIONSHIP Greg; And its still the best way to produce, exchange and refine culture using WORDS.

        I suppose that explains the slowness and paucity of said cultural refinements and exchanges amongst the tribes of your ilk, eh?

        Too busy lolling about, beading up each other’s coifs and gossiping about Miley’s latest twerk with Jay Z and such?

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 12:07 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot

        I suppose that explains the slowness and paucity of said cultural refinements and exchanges amongst the tribes of your ilk, eh?
        ———————————————————————————————–

        It was enough to get you here mouthin off at me didn’t it?

        If it was up to andy, you’d still be in your cave gruntin with a mouth full of bloody meat.

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      • on February 2, 2014 at 11:02 am Greg Eliot

        It was enough for me to come slap down your usual n166er babble.

        Your assumption of a Nicole-esque style does you little credit.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:06 am Greg Eliot

        It is the original people, the black people who have the greatest genetic diversity;

        Diverse?

        Then how come so many of y’all are pretty much indistinguishable nappy-headed hos?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:22 am thwack

        Greg Eliot

        Then how come so many of y’all are pretty much indistinguishable nappy-headed hos?
        ————————————————————————————————-

        Thats because ni66ers are cursed:

        “And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee.”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:34 am Greg Eliot

        Y’all so’ nuff be an astonishment… yassuh!

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  6. on January 29, 2014 at 12:03 pm JayMan

    This was pretty much the point of my post on the reality and importance of female attractiveness:

    Keeping it Real… | JayMan’s Blog

    Human males, unlike most mammals, invest in their offspring. This means that there is sexual selective pressure on women, however weak or strong that is, but greater than neutral. Female jealously also evidences this. Human females are unique in that they have conspicuous secondary sex characteristics (e.g., breasts, wide hips, longer hair). Sexual selection is the only explanation.

    Now, whether or not Peter Frost is correct in that sexual selection explains Indo-European features such as light skin, neotenous face, and multi-colored hair and eyes, there is no question that most human groups there has been significant sexual selective forces on women (cf. breasts).

    As to whether this is still going on today, Markus Jokela found that in the U.S., the most attractive women had the most children, and the least attractive men had the least children. This suggest that selection for attractiveness is ongoing.

    [CH: I was unaware of that second link. Good find. Supports the classic CH maxim that in a freely functioning sexual market, a distinct hierarchy emerges, from biggest winners to sorest losers:

    Alpha males
    Alpha females
    Beta females
    Beta males

    Voluntary cheap contraception has likely reversed the order of alpha males and alpha females, but this wasn’t always the case.]

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm Tilikum

      i approve.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:21 pm anon

        How gratifying, I’m sure.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:19 pm North Vinlander

      Women usually have longer hair because they don’t cut it as short. Their hips serve a practical purpose in child bearing. What about beards on men (though there’s the theory that that trait was evolved for inter-male competition)?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:24 pm JayMan

        It’s not just that. Woman can grow longer hair than men.

        And what about breasts?

        Facial/body hair are secondary sex characteristics on men, however, unlike the case with women, that’s not zoologically unusual.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:31 pm North Vinlander

        You’re right about boobs. Do you have a source for the claim about hair though? Men can typically grow hair past their feet if they choose to, I think.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:39 pm Tilikum

        High t usually leads to high blood pressure which is bad for hair…..

        ever wonder why black guys got bald heads?

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16937606

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 11:14 pm FamilyMan

        I didn’t know about the blood pressure linkage, I just thought that high T is bad for hair, because we observe many men go bald but women hardly ever do. Baldness is one of a cluster of characteristics highly correlated with high T (or at least T at male levels not female levels.)

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:53 am Ji66aboo

        “ever wonder why black guys got bald heads?”

        Too much crack?

        Serum estrogen, but not testosterone, levels differ between black and white men in a nationally representative sample of Americans.

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17456570

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:45 pm chi-town

        What about breasts? We do have flat faces with no snout. It would make a long migration difficult with flat faces and flat chested women.

        I highly doubt sexual selection(aka handicap principle) is the main driver. I believe our brain and upright posture selecting for narrow hips has caused a biological dilemma. Women’s bodies have had to make a compromise.

        Long hair is not desirable on men because its a handicap in battle.

        “Therefore, in order that they might not give their enemies a hold by their hair, they cut it off. And Alexander of Macedon doubtless understood this when, as they say, he ordered his generals to have the beards of their Macedonians shaved, since these afforded the readiest hold in battle. ”

        – The Life of Theseus

        One also must pay heed to the relative selective selective pressure on men.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:02 pm JayMan

        And yet, there are many flat-chested women (particularly in East Asia). That explanation does not work.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:46 pm BlackPoisonSoul

        Malnutrition.

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 12:16 pm thwack

        If you mix Asian with African you get Polynesian, then the fat comes back, i.e Hawaiians, Samoans…

        Guess where the fatest people live?

        MICROnesia.

        LOL

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 11:17 pm FamilyMan

        Some men like me are leg men. I am attracted to nice legs and not to large breasts. Maybe it’s because my mother had large breasts, but I think it’s because from my point of view, legs lead to the business end of a woman. The breasts are for nursing babies, but first there have to be babies to nurse.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:35 pm Scray

      Now, I always thought that the OP was true only when discussing whether a man will provide for a woman. The woman a man decides to invest resources into will have to be highly attractive (or the most attractive woman he can get). However, a woman that a man will fuck and leave need not be anywhere near as attractive — which makes sense, because such a woman would have to be far enough beneath him in SMV to make the tradeoff of short-term sex in exchange for superior (relative to her) genetics.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:43 pm Tilikum

        true for the average man. say 50-95th percentile.

        but for the superior man, you NEVER go hoggin’ and when you are learning to be a player, the pros will say NO skanks. its ALWAYS better to go home alone than pull a skank if you don’t wanna poison the water hole for the rare 9+.

        Irish Goodbye for the fucking win.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:59 pm The Burninator

        “but for the superior man, you NEVER go hoggin’ and when you are learning to be a player, the pros will say NO skanks. its ALWAYS better to go home alone than pull a skank if you don’t wanna poison the water hole for the rare 9+.”

        Absolutely.

        What is an “Irish Goodbye”? First time I’ve heard that term.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:35 pm Tilikum

        irish goodbye-
        leaving the bar or anywhere for that matter, without closing niceties, like a kiss goodbye to that annoying girl or mentioning something to your friends

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:41 pm burke

        sneaking out the back from a gathering. i think i read an article recently about how saying goodbye was presumptuous and ruins everyone’s fun everyway so maybe irish is just default now

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:17 am thwack

        stop soft shoeing. Its nothing more than sneaking out and leaving the other person/s to pay the bill after a bunch of people run up a tab.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm The Burninator

        Thanks to the both of ya’. Learn something new every day.

        So if that’s an Irish Goodbye, would a Scottish Goodbye be mostly the same thing except you also refuse to pay for anything? heh

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 7:20 pm Col Nicholson

        It’s an Irish goodbye when you’re way too drunk to drive; when you slip out sober, that’s a French goodbye. You may also catch your host’s eye and
        give a little wave. Tres Parisian.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:04 pm Scray

        I’d actually still say the same thing. If you’re greater than 95th percentile tho, the woman you can short-term fuck are just going to be higher quality — but still lower quality than you. And the highest quality woman you can get will be the one you put the resources into.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm Tilikum

        above the 95th percentile you don’t short term fuck even if though you can.

        you never spill your very expensive DNA all willy nilly. cause if you do, its not expensive, see 🙂

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm Scray

        Uhhhhhh…..are you saying above 95th percentile you somehow refrain from deploying the male dual mating strategy?

        I mean, this sounds similar to the “Paul Walker Chaste” theory CH has. In which case….if true….seems like it applies to the top .0000001%

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 9:02 pm Tilikum

        i’ll concede to top 1%.

        i ‘ve left more than a few breathless and fucking pissed that they won’t get the d.

        gotta SO-1 buddy who is the same way. fucked up thing……we both end up dating bartenders. much more chaste than you wanna believe.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 11:20 pm FamilyMan

        I’m Irish and I never heard of Irish goodbye.

        But I guess I do it. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to do? Why say goodbye to people you aren’t interested in and don’t even know?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:02 am irishsavant

        I had never heard of it either but on checking with some American friends find that it can mean sneaking away quietly so as not to put a damper on the occasion (presumptious, I know) or not get dragged back in to an uncongenial event.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm Maya

        ”However, a woman that a man will fuck and leave need not be anywhere near as attractive — which makes sense, because such a woman would have to be far enough beneath him in SMV to make the tradeoff of short-term sex in exchange for superior (relative to her) genetics.”

        People probably are not genetically diverse enough to find a man who is so much hotter that the ugliest woman would think he has superior genetics. We are all very similar, I think.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:05 pm Scray

        According to basic evo psych, that’s part of a woman’s dual-mating strategy. She either finds a provider or she finds a non-provider with superior genetics. So, people seem to be genetically diverse enough for evo-psych experts to theorize this result.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:13 pm Maya

        everyone can theorize anything they want … doesn’t mean it has anything to do with reality.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:45 pm JCclimber

        Congrats Maya, you’ve somehow stumbled upon a grain of truth!

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm Scray

        Well….
        …evo-psych certainly seems to explain damned near all behaviors (male and female) I see.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:40 pm Tilikum

        poor girl is trying to rationalize her existence, eh brother?

        sad aint it.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm Tilikum

        attitude says more about genes than looks, and if you have been out at all in the last 10 years the men are complete pussies. its a gulf between 1st and second.

        open your mouth and say “ahhhh”

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:59 pm Lara

      Even with contraception, I would think alpha males are the clear winners, due to being less picky and having a longer window of opportunity than alpha females.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:05 pm Maya

        He said that.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm A Random Guy

        (Channeling Michael Scott) “that’s what she said!”

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:24 pm Lara

        I guess it depends if he is talking about number of sexual partners or number of children. I wasn’t sure, and I assumed sexual partners.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:58 pm GasButtox

        LaraButtox,

        A poem :

        The oceans grandly parted…
        When I superbly farted….

        Towards my buttox, Lara darted….
        To detox them, she started…

        With the $5000 fee, she gladly parted..
        And from the gina tingles, she smarted…..

        -GB

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 9:20 pm Steve

        You are a national treasure.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm guerrer0

      The only non-White people with natural hair of color (Brown, red, Yellow) are Austroloids who are least attractive race, maybe that was to compensate their low attractive level among all races.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:25 pm Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

        Austroloids are made up of the left overs when Jesus and Optimus Prime were done cooking up humans in their heavenly meth lab.

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  7. on January 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm Grim

    Of course. Christ, libtards are retarded. I was discussing this with a very beta buddy the other day. Men will literally choose NO SEX and a long dry spell over banging a fatty, or in some cases (such as mine) anything even close to a fatty. Or an ugly. I recently turned down an ugly (with a smoking body) who was all over me because she had bad acne and it was just too gross (not trying to be mean). She was just too ugly. No way to prove it and in light of my other contributions here, some might not believe me, but it’s true. I met this girl from POF and she had a smokin’ body from working out HARD but a very bad face–worst butter face I’ve ever seen. Took her to my apartment after meeting her for drinks at a dive bar, just couldn’t do it. Ended up giving her a guitar lesson and sending her home. She either thinks I’m the greatest gentleman ever or totally beta, or she has probably experiences this before and knows she’s just too ugly. (Like, her face is pretty gross, but I’m telling you, KILLER body–because, of course, she has to compensate.)

    And as CH says, of course, same thing in a bar scene and everywhere else.

    This is yet another way to defend my theory of what I call “understandable one-itus.” All the betas (90% of men) want the same top 10% of women. Even a fat ugly sexless beta wants a pretty, thin girl. So when a beta, even a greater beta, is lucky enough to find himself in the same time and space with an HB7 and she’s available and likes him, and they do an LTR, the beta is devastated when he loses her, because he knows a looooooong dry spell is coming, because said beta will choose NO SEX over a fatty and it will be a looooong time before the beta finds a new HB7 to LTR.

    Also, the though of sex with a fatty is just gross. Not even possible.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm Southern Man

      Handcuffs and doggie style.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 2:54 pm fakeemail

      5 minutes of hottie is worth. . .

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 4:05 pm chi-town

      Shortly after dumping my LTR ,an easy 8 and then some, I had no interest in what sort of reminded me of her, but in this case a 7. She was hitting on me after I used a big word, which often baits the interest of the typical smart girl. I did not even mean to, but it did not take long that I set a hook of attraction without even meaning to. I just wasn’t interested. I would have to give up a 5 6″ leggy blond C-cup for another leggy blond of lessor quality. I was at the time a greater beta with alpha moments(looking back of course). I could usually be an alpha of the group, but I just wasn’t much for going in cold. But there is no doubt in my mind that my dry spells were that I did not even want to talk to a 6 other than a friend zoned chick I did not mind personality wise and shooting the shit.

      Its also important to keep in mind that I had religious influence , meaning I believed hookup culture was wrong, even if I from time to time failed to live up to the standard. So more committed sex was the bias, and I was not going serve a life sentence with someone not so hot.

      Now if nothing was at stake like moral belief, paternity suits, or STDs, then I suppose I might dump a load into say a 5.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:27 pm Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

      Here bro:

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  8. on January 29, 2014 at 12:10 pm S

    Girls with rich dads are almost universally hot. Also, hot girls drive Jettas.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:12 pm JayMan

      Well, attractiveness is correlated with IQ…

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm Tilikum

        i’d agree up until you hit the millennials…..born past 1983, my observation is that it’s no longer the case.

        you no longer need to be smart to live and breed. attractive is enough.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:21 pm JayMan

        Satoshi Kanazawa found that the relationship existed as late as Wave III of the Add Health survey.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:45 pm Tilikum

        very good stuff. respect.

        but I’ll still state that experientially, i’m seeing a lotta hot under 30’s that are dumb as shit. dumber than their 30-40yo counterparts. but hot.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm yeahokcool

        I watched Blackfish the other day. Your namesake has lived a sad life.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:11 pm blox

        i always hoped he was going for “till I cum”

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 9:03 pm Tilikum

        double entandres never hurt 😉

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:54 pm BlackPoisonSoul

        It’s because they’re pampered and catered to now. They didn’t have to develop a real brain.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:29 pm yeahokcool

        Right. And I don’t think we should do this to creatures like whales. Please believe that I don’t give a shit about animal rights and have killed lots of animals in my life, but that movie really upset me.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm North Vinlander

      That’s because girls with rich dads usually have hot moms.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:15 pm JayMan

        That too…

        There was a debate as to the extent the attractiveness-IQ correlation exists because of high status (and hence high IQ) men mating with attractive women vs the effects of genetic load. Likely a degree of both is involved.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:20 pm North Vinlander

        The rich dads likely have better genes for looks too for that reason (and because their looks help them get rich, even if they’re businessmen or something).

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:39 pm Theodore Logan

        So how the fuck do you explain the excess of ugly rich guys with hot girls?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm Theodore Logan

        nevermind, I just had a retard moment. I so sorry.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:56 pm North Vinlander

        Do you understand correlation? lol

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:21 pm North Vinlander

        What’s genetic load?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:26 pm JayMan

        Short answer, the burden of deleterious mutations which we all carry. Those who carry more than average are sicker, dumber, crazier, and uglier.

        See here:

        HBD Fundamentals: On genetic load | JayMan’s Blog

        I should update that with additional posts by Kevin Mitchell and Greg Cochran on the matter.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:27 pm Reservoir Tip

        Oh I’ll give ya a genetic load.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:46 pm Tilikum

        haaaa

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:50 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Not in the eyes or the hair, please.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm thwack

        Pro tip; If you think a girl will say no, don’t ask her; instead, ask her if you can cum on her tits. Then at the last minute let the round go long and apologize.

        If she gets mad (which she won’t) just tell her to be a good soldier:

        “You don’t go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the army you came with.”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:01 am thwack

        Ya’ll are welcome; don’t act like you ain’t gonna use this.

        (((SMMFH)))

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:15 am Greg Eliot

        What is this “ask”, of which you speak?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:32 am thwack

        You’re right Greg. ASKING is for wives and girlfriends only. NEVER ask the new girl.

        Never.

        Because even if she says yes, she’s gonna be flinching or looking like Amy.

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  9. on January 29, 2014 at 12:12 pm earl

    The only people that believe men don’t have discretion when it comes to a mate are the ugly ones themselves.

    In fact I would say everyone should get out of their heads and interact with the human race more. It is quite entertaing, cheaper than a movie, and there is more truth to it than a movie. Leave the free thinking ignorance to the souless beasts behind the curtain.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:54 pm Zombie Shane

      > “cheaper than a movie”

      I can’t remember the last time that I saw a movie in a movie theater.

      Or, for that matter, sat down and watched a televised movie from beginning to end.

      Has there been a movie made in the last four or five years which is even worth watching?

      Maybe Alexander Payne’s Descendants?

      Or Terrence Malick’s Tree of Life?

      And are there any good war movies which involve the USA military NOT attacking Israel’s enemies – but rather attacking somebody else?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:44 pm Theodore Logan

        like attack Israel for once and razing Tel Aviv to ground??? Fuck no man, ain’t seen nothin’ like it.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:42 am L. Jon Hubbard

        An alternative history where the attack on the USS Liberty is responded to appropriately.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:34 am FamilyMan

        They just had a Godfather marathon on TV this past weekend. I watched all three, first time since the previous Godfather marathon about 20 years ago when I watched all three. But this time I was awake for the second half of Godfather III.

        Gotta teach the kids the important cultural information, like “make him an offer he can’t refuse” and the reason for the dark meaning now attached to the word “godfather”. Some very fine male behavior in those movies. Like how Michael Corleone (Al Pacino) refuses to say “I love you” to his future wife, well he finally does because that’s because he decided to marry her and needed a final push to overcome her asd-like dread of his lifestyle. After the one he really loved in Sicily got blown up in a car.

        The most successful man in those movies was the original godfather Vito Corleone, played by Robert DeNiro (young man) and Marlon Brando. He rose from nothing to build up the family. Did you notice the total lack of fucking around. He found a good traditional loyal wife and was already married and producing kids, young. And even out of three sons he only got one suitable scion for the family. (Sonny, even if he had lived, was too wild and emotional.) But the most successful people don’t spend their lives in the dating market. They get that locked down early and on to other things. Guess that was easier in the old days, even the next generation Michael was well into his career before he settled for his (second-best though “hot”) wife.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:33 pm WG

      You should probably heed your own advice, since it appears by your ubiquitous presence at Manosphere blogs that you don’t get out much.

      Get out, or get a blog.

      Just a friendly suggestion.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:45 pm Tilikum

        earl can stay.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm earl

        Good to know someone is following me.

        Excellent use of the term ubiquitous too.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 2:24 pm anon

      I’m sure the ugly ones woud know better than anyone that men can be discriminating.

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 5:49 am Willem

        But then again, at least some of them uggos have hamsters of such hefty proportions that they’ve managed to convince themselves they’re actually the cat’s pajamas. Hence, all the skinny, pretty girls must be nothing but worthless, shallow bimbos and men just exercise NO discrimination whatsoever going after those. Womynlogic’d.

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  10. on January 29, 2014 at 12:18 pm Grit

    In response to your all-male gym tweets:

    Men are not afraid of an undercurrent of gay. They are actually afraid they are *missing* an undercurrent of gay.

    Because ultimately the pretty little things that inhabit yoga studios and spinning classes have heads filled with pretty little lies. Those pretty things love their gay men and their gay rights and their gay flamboyance.

    Men don’t want to alienate hot women, but don’t want to accept that a hot woman comes with the whole flamboyantly-wrapped-and-sealed-with-a-rainbow-ribbon package.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm The Burninator

      dafuq?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:55 pm Zombie Shane

        > “dafuq?”

        Seconded.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 8:07 pm corvinus

        True. Men don’t care about alienation. After all, if a white power convict and a black female prison guard can get it off…
        http://www.ocweekly.com/2012-02-16/news/moxley-confidential-jennifer-tamara-mcclain-christopher-roger-brown-mark-mchenry-landmark-steakhouse/
        …then why “dafuq” should we care what women “think”??

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm Canadian Friend

      Gay.

      ( someone had to say it )

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm A Random Guy

        …

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:13 pm Reservoir Tip

        srsly tho ur pussy rocks!

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:17 pm A Random Guy

        Bring the movies!

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:35 am North Vinlander

        LOL that guy

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:19 am Greg Eliot

        If that wasn’t gay… it’ll do until gay gets here.

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  11. on January 29, 2014 at 12:19 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Great post. Anyone who has ever had to friendzone a girl and watched her meltdown knows that women’s don’t like to deal with this subject. As much as woman say men can’t handle being friendzoned, from my experience, they’re much worse at dealing with it and the reason is this very fallacy: than men will take whatever they’re given. Not even close to being true.

    [CH: Men are better than women at dealing with a lot of sexual market insults, because they have to be.]

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:25 pm Grim

      My fat friend from college was crying about this 2 nights ago. She literally threw herself at a man, on a business trip, and he rejected her. She was crying, “I thought a woman could just get laid whenever she wanted!” These girls are so brainwashed by Huff Post and it is so sad. This girls is a 1440 SAT (old SAT) girl too. Very intelligent, completely ruined by feminism.

      It’s because she’s fat (why the guy rejected her). I didn’t tell her this. Should I have told her? It’s not my problem. She has a pretty face but is fat because she doesn’t exercise. What’s the term that’s the opposite of a butter face? These women deserve ridicule because God gave them a pretty face and they chose to be fat. Butter faces deserve respect, because they can’t change their face but they did their best with the body.

      And I mean she literally threw herself at him. She told him, “I could be your play thing whenever you’re in town” (they were on some kind of mutual business trip with a common client or something like that)

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:47 pm The Burninator

        You should have told her. If she’s your friend she needs to know the truth or she’ll always be suffering from her delusions.

        If I had a buddy who was constantly striking out with women, and it was because his approach was that of a beta wuss, I’d tell him right up front, no matter how hard it hit his ego. If he’s my friend he’ll appreciate the honesty and grow from it, if not, well, then tough shit he’s going to hear it anwyway.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:57 pm Zombie Shane

        > “You should have told her.”

        If he told her, then after the subsequent weight loss, she’d come after HIM.

        Although there is a SMALL CHANCE that she’d get so angry that she’d never talk to him again.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:02 pm Grim

        She’s already coming after me. She wants to come visit me to have sex. And ding ding ding re: your 2nd thing. She is completely delusional and would never talk to me again, not that I would care. In fact it would be nice if she’d stop calling me. But I’m not really feeling like telling her to her face that she’s fat. I have my own problems, like finding an HB8 to have sex with.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:21 pm corvinus

        Dude… tell her she’s too da*n fat and needs to lose however many pounds. Do it, for crying out loud. If she’s nuts over you, she’ll do what you say.

        Think of this: if she was slender, would she be an HB8?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:36 pm The Burninator

        You have a self solving problem. She’s pestering you, you want her to stop contact, and you know why she isn’t getting men. Tell her, she gets mad, she stops wanting to have sex with you, she stops calling you AND you get street cred for being a “true friend”.

        IF she loses the weight and then turns grateful later, and she now looks knockout hot (due to aforementioned face combined with a tight body) and wants to fuck you, it’s just more win covered in win sauce.

        What’s to lose?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:16 am Zombie Shane

        > “These girls are so brainwashed by Huff Post and it is so sad. This girls is a 1440 SAT (old SAT) girl too. Very intelligent, completely ruined by feminism.”

        This is the big problem.

        The Darkness is already strong in her heart.

        If she loses the weight, will she still be carrying vestiges of The Darkness in her heart?

        I see two possibilities here:

        1) Break off all contact with her completely and never talk to her again.

        2) Go HARD ALPHA on her ass – where you are going to be not only responsible for chasing 40lbs or 50lbs of lard out of her physical body, but also responsible for chasing all of that feminazi nihilistic Darkness out of her heart.

        Choosing option 2) is a big responsibility – pretty much the biggest responsibility there is in life [short of actually having babies with her, which, of course, would be the next step] – and, quite frankly, most dudes just won’t be up to the task.

        Option 1) is the much easier path to take.

        Much, much, much easier.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm A Random Guy

        Maybe so, but do you avoid doing the right thing for a friend, because it might be inconvenient for you? If she turned into a psycho stalker or something, well, she probably shouldn’t have been his friend…

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:20 pm Skunk

        She knows she’s fat.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm Grim

        I should add one more thing (if you’ll let me, CH): this girl is not obese. Not even close. She is 5’4″ and probably weighs 150. Girls, that’s still too big. I’m not talking about a 300 pound freak. She has thick elephantine legs and cankles–MAJOR turnoff. She’s a white girl who always has a nice (not too much) tan and, as said, very pretty face, good skin tightness. Not even any cellulite marks–just thick. Her skin tightness makes her look like a slightly big 19 year old (good skin).

        Girls, that’s still too fat. This girl will get rejected by any man with normal standards unless he’s 55 years old (she’s 37). That’s what the girls don’t get. Thick elephant legs and cankles? Not possible to get it up for a girl like that because it’s biologically incorrect–it’s gross. It shows an insufficient level of physical activity.

        Just like the butter face with acne and puss oozing off of her skin also showed a marker for NOT being a suitable reproductive mate. My hindbrain tells me that if her face is oozing puss, how gross must her vagina be?!?

        This girl wants to come visit me or me to fly to her city to have sex (she told me explicitly), but I am going to reject her too. Legs are just too thick.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm corvinus

        If she’s only 5’4″, she should be 110 lbs, tops. She needs to lose 40 lbs. Tell her.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        No, don’t tell her. He doesn’t need Fat Girl Drama. They LIVE for drama since they have nothing else going on. Avoid any deep or personal convos with fat people of either sex or your life will end up in disaster. I’ll make an exception for some black women for sociological reasons, but that’s it.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:03 pm fakeemail

        This. DO NOT tell her the truth. Women can’t handle it. She’ll get depressed and fatter. She’ll blame/glomm onto you.

        Shit, every time I’m at a party and made 30 second small talk with the fat girl by the snack table I wind up regretting it.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm corvinus

        Shit, every time I’m at a party and made 30 second small talk with the fat girl by the snack table I wind up regretting it.

        I suppose. I have gotten so used to even avoiding eye contact with fatties that I’ve forgotten about how nuts they can be (except in the abstract).

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:49 am jez

        “No, don’t tell her. He doesn’t need Fat Girl Drama.”

        ==================================

        Seconded. A man will give a man friend a good kick up the arse when it is needed, and if they really are friends then it will be taken with the same generosity of spirit with which it is given.

        But a man telling a girl even an obvious truth, such that nobody wants to bang her because she looks such a mess? Won’t work. You’re just being MEAN. You’re hurting her FEEWINGS.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:18 am Claire

        Yes to a degree. I am the same height as my sister and about 2 kilos heavier but 2 dress sizes smaller. I suspect it’s because I do weights as well as cardio.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:14 pm thwack

        Do you plant tulips?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm Canadian Friend

        Cankles are not affected much by weight loss, even if she lost a lot of weight her legs would never be great…

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:56 pm Grim

        Yep. Her legs were always a little thick even when she was 19, when I met her. To the other posters: she won’t lose the weight. She puts ketchup on everything and says, “I don’t like anything that makes me sweat.” I have led her by example for the 19 years we’ve known each other. She knows I lift weights 3 to 5 days a week, am super fit, and have banged plenty of HB8s all weighing less than 118 pounds. In college she told me, “You will never be happy unless you have Cindy Crawford giving you a BJ every night.” Yep. Pretty much. Except Cindy is too big. I like petite little girls.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:44 pm corvinus

        Up the ante. Some lines to throw at her:

        “lazy” “You don’t like to sweat, you’d rather sit on your ass all day” “HFCS is bad for you” “lazy” “just like a basement-dwelling loser” “no self-discipline” “lazy”

        Boil it down to: “You want me, but you’re too lazy to lose the weight to make it happen. You have no self-discipline, just like a basement-dwelling loser who doesn’t want to go to college and get a decent job so a decent woman will want him.”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:07 pm Fearless

        She’s 37, its over. Rare woman that can lose weight without significant emotional trauma first, i.e… divorce, at that age.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:07 pm corvinus

        She’s 37, its over. Rare woman that can lose weight without significant emotional trauma first, i.e… divorce, at that age.

        Didn’t catch that. Yes. Next.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:57 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Usually cankles come right off with weight loss. The skin on one’s legs tends to be fairly taut and resilient, and will usually bounce back quickly.

        Where it gets dicey is the belly area. A lot depends on individual skin elasticity and just how fat the person was to start with, but sometimes even extreme weight loss will result in these big, dimpled, loose folds of skin on the belly area. It almost looks worse, sometimes, unless they get a tummy tuck.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:08 pm Canadian Friend

        I know what you mean but some women have cankles no matter how much they weigh, Hillary Clinton is not fat, yet she has unsightly cankles which is why she always wears pantsuits.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 10:21 pm Jay in DC

        Hey thanks for that Ms. “you are entitled to your fantasy image of me”. Are you SURE you are not my friend from college? Cuz she had some BIG ass cankles due to what? Big bone structure.

        Or are you my 4 year relationship ex from 2000—> who was a feminine in form as the day is long but still couldn’t account for her BIG ass lower calves in spite of being able to bounce a quarter off her exquisite ass and with a beautiful model hot thin upper torso– including flat stomach, skinny arms, small feminine hands, and pert B tits with pink nips to die for. Yet— cankles could not be removed and even she admitted this malady. She was 28 by the way… Rethink your strategy. Some shit is simply genetic for all of us.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:16 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Nope, Jay, my calves and ankles are slim and always have been.

        Of course some women (and men) just rolled the genetic snake-eyes and wound up with something that diet and exercise just won’t fix. My point was merely that most of the time, losing weight works out really well for people with big legs.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:42 am PR

        >>Hillary Clinton is not fat, yet she has unsightly cankles which is why she always wears pantsuits.

        Hillary’s pantsuits accomplished their Jedi mind trick of making you think she’s not fat.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:09 pm JironGhrad

        They are positively affected by “exercise” however. There’s a worthwhile direction there.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 7:42 pm Amy

        As a 5’4″ chick, 150 is BIG. At 150, she knows she’s too big. If she were 130, maybe she’d need the hint.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        “I could be your play thing…” must be a standard fat girl line. It didn’t work on me either. “Er…I have a girlfriend and I don’t cheat EVER!” was my excuse. Great story, by the way. ^^^^^

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:31 pm Scray

      generally, everything women accuse men of being bad at dealing with, they themselves are 10x worse at dealing with lol

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 7:52 pm Amy

      “As much as women say men can’t handle being friendzoned, from my experience, they’re much worse at dealing with it and the reason is this very fallacy: than men will take whatever they’re given.”

      We’re much worse at dealing with it because, unless she’s going way out of her league, say a 5 hitting on a 10, it rarely happens. Guys are just far less picky for sex than women are picky for everything.

      It’s the reason for the “alpha widow” concept this blog talks about. A 6-7 has sex with an alpha but can’t land him for a relationship. Why? Because she’s okay to have sex with, but not hot enough to commit to.

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  12. on January 29, 2014 at 12:26 pm My Take

    If I could approach that frequency (the male lion) you could hear me roar for 5 miles as well.

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  13. on January 29, 2014 at 12:40 pm Whatnow

    I remember when this fat broad I know asked me if a friend of mine was gay. Later, said friend told me that she tried to stick her tongue down his throat at a bar and when he recoiled she hit her head on the bar and started crying.

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  14. on January 29, 2014 at 12:40 pm The Burninator

    Ah, now this article puts CH and my views on being picky closer to being on par. A sufficiently alpha guy won’t settle, since he always has options, even if they are not in the same bar as him at the time. Woe be to the ego of the desperate 6 or 7 who simply expects men to line up for her at the end of the night, when she is given an indifferent shrug and told “Nah, I gotta go” by the man.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 12:42 pm Grim

      Dude not just alphas. Betas won’t settle either. Betas choose NO SEX over hogging. Now, for a beta, a 7 is pretty good, but same analysis, just move the standards down a bit. I see 7s as good for me, as I am no George Clooney. But I will either be with a 7 or nothing at all. It’s just not possible to contemplate sex with an ugly.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:12 pm The Burninator

        To keep it in context, I was speaking of an alpha with options who just happened to have not been there at the time. Abundance mentality and all that. If you have two 9’s prowling for you and inviting you over after you get out of the establishment, the 7 who desperately seeks your attention seems…desperate. What’s the killer for her ego is if you treat her as desperate and reject her without a second thought or pity.

        If you’re out cruising with no real options at hand, and reject a 7 just to be an arse, that’s an entirely different matter.

        I do think the point of the article is correct, as you and CH both point out, the betas have preference for the 3 9’s/10’s when they’re present. I do think that lacking the 9/10 chicks being in the establishment however, a beta will easily settle for a 5 (see it all the time, ugh). But if a 9 walks in the door the 5 might as well go home, not even Captain Nerd Avenger trying to impress any girl who will listen with tales of his level 80 Paladin will pay her any mind as he’s busy oogling the 9.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:00 pm Zombie Shane

      > “Woe be to the ego of the desperate 6 or 7 who simply expects men to line up for her at the end of the night, when she is given an indifferent shrug and told “Nah, I gotta go” by the man.”

      I’m sure I’ll be the outlier on this thread, but I’d way rather be getting naked with a 6 or a 7 who had a kind, warm, gentle loving heart, than to be chasing any HB8/HB9/HB10 whose heart had been consumed by The Darkness.

      Some pussy just ain’t worth it.

      The Dark chicks are frigging EVIL INCARNATE.

      [CH: There’s a contingent of MRAs, or MGTOWs, or whatever they’re identifying as now, who like to claim that even the fugliest fatties can get laid, thus boosting their self-esteems and making them intolerable to be around. This is bullshit. What these trollish types ALWAYS fail to mention is the QUALITY of the man who is dumping a sloppy fuck in the porcine hole of the fug fatty. They don’t mention this because it would blow their whole case to smithereens. Fugs aren’t getting laid with any man they really desire. They, like their loser lovers, are settling so far down the human totem pole they may as well be rutting in a deep ocean trench.]

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:03 pm Maya

        It is more likely for pretty girls to be happy and feminine. It’s less attractive girls who can become sad and bitter.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:38 am Zombie Shane

        I am coming around to the idea that “only-skin-deep” beauty might just correlate ever-so-slightly with “true inner” beauty.

        It’s a place where I don’t want to go – neither intellectually nor spiritually – this idea that a large portion of chicks could be cursed with both hideous countenances and also horrifying darkness in their hearts.

        It just doesn’t seem fair.

        And I’m way too much of a White Knight, by nature, to concede that fact without fighting my way through it to the bitter end..

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:05 pm Anonymous

        It’s an average world.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:07 pm Scray

        You aren’t an outlier. I don’t care about getting naked with a girl who is a bitch. Again, it comes back to ‘who am I investing resources/commitment into?’ Never a bitch. Ever. But yeah, slinging some seed? Who cares.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:22 pm The Burninator

        8/9/10’s aren’t bitches once you smash their shields, in fact they’re usually quite happy and submissive once you demonstrate your awesomeness and refusal to kiss their pretty little arses. Grateful even, to have found a man they don’t despise. Nearly worshipful grateful.

        What cranks my gears are the 5/6/7 with the bitch attitude, who, because they are treated as little princesses by idiots who think that they can’t do better, consider themselves as far, far above their own SMV. Sorry toots, but your flat chest and plain face may get you some drunk fool with no other options at the close of the bar, but that doesn’t make you worth my time.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:25 pm Reservoir Tip

        Oftentimes I get worse attitude from lower value girls than I do from higher value ones.

        I wouldn’t say I’m super high value, being a college student and on the short side, but I’m exceptionally good looking facially and in shape. Lower value girls can detect when a higher value guy wants to use them, and coupled with their monster egos, this creates quite the monster.

        On one hand they think they’re entitled to higher value men.

        On the other, they throw up their bitch shields whenever one wants to have anything to do with them.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:34 pm Zombie Shane

        For the record, I am NOT talking about the beauty here.

        I’m talking about the state of her HEART.

        If you take a Hillary Clinton personality or a Michelle Obama personality or a Nancy Pelosi personality, and transplant it into Megan Fox’s body, or into Monica Belluci’s body, or into Padma Lakshmi’s body, or into whomsoever’s body, then FUCK THAT SHIT.

        My little fella ain’t even gonna be able to rise to the occasion.

        On the other hand, if you can find an HB8/HB9/HB10, with a kind warm gentle loving heart, then I wouldn’t just say, “Go for it!”

        I’d say: “Seal the deal for all eternity by PUTTING SOME BUNS IN HER OVEN!!!”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:24 pm Theodore Logan

        For the evil hot chix, domestic violence game works wonders… and rape!

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:23 am Timo

        There is so much truth in this message.

        I am from Nordic country and consider two of them as my home (been living in both for a long time). The quality of ladies tends to be quite high and I am fine with playing the game with good looking women. But I have been living in London, UK, now for too long and the second paragraph is what it is in here. Ugly girls with bad attitudes thinking that I do all the work. I have never been so depraved of pussy than I am here, as I just cannot push myself to try to fuck an below average girl who expects me to behave like she’s a catch.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 1:24 pm corvinus

        I’d be fine with a 7 or higher, but below that level, I get a sinking feeling in my chest whenever the woman calls me up and wants to get together, and I just want to get away, no matter what her personality is.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:00 pm Canadian Friend

        I’m in that situation right now, this woman is in love with me, calls me often, always asking when she can see me, she is very nice, very sweet, my friends met her and they all love her, they say she is cute but they have not seen her naked…

        If I could take my ex girlfriend’s body and this one’s personality and combine it into one woman, I would have the prefect woman

        My ex had the ugliest personality ( she is the one who lied to the police to get revenge because I left her) but her breasts were so perfect and firm at first I was 100% certain they were silicone…her breasts were DIVINE!!! she had striking blue eyes, was a natural blonde, had a pretty face and a cute little nose, everywhere we went men were ogling her with their jaws hanging down and drooling ( I was so damn proud ), she had a firm butt, no cellulite at all, a cute pink pussy as if she was a teenager…she liked to have sex often…but her personality was horrible beyond what words can describe.

        The one I am seeing now ( reluctantly ) is the sweetest woman I have ever met, she is adorable but her looks are , well…she is maybe a 6 at best ( with clothes on )

        I will eventually get tired of her and cut ties, I hate to hurt her but I will have no choice…

        I’ll say it again; this woman’s personality in my ex body and I would be floating so happy I would be.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 11:05 pm Matthew

        But could you fuck a gorilla?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 11:06 pm Matthew

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:20 pm Reservoir Tip

        A white fattie can get an attractive black guy to take her home (to the bathroom stall) and blow his load in her.

        In her mind, she scored a “high-value, fit black guy.” It’s sort of a case of perception vs. reality.

        Of course, we all know this isn’t really the case, but I’d still stick with the idea that most women can pretty much get laid on a whim.

        [CH: This is a familiar trope, and has more than a grain of truth to it, but even so I’ve noticed that truly attractive, high social status, non-thug black men will more often than not turn their noses up at fug fatties.]

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:45 pm corvinus

        I guess that’s why the fattest whites tend to live in parts of the country where there are lots of blacks.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:47 pm Tilikum

        a white fattie with an attitude from hell, maybe.

        black dudes love a girl who tells em what to do. its like crack WITH a crack.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:01 pm Scray

        I’d say the fatties who get P&D’d by your average beta male 5-6 aren’t “settling.” They know that these are the best genes they have access to. They desire these men in the way a 5 girl desires a 7 male. Maybe the 5 girl would desire the 9 male moreso, but there’s still desire wherever there’s at least a 1-2 point SMV gap.

        MRAs are saying that the average fatty can, at the very least, secure human affection and contact of decent attractiveness. The same complaint greater betas have about the female 7+’s….omegas have about the female 3-5’s.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 10:12 pm Jay in DC

        Scray— short ass male ni66a. Maya– dark ass ne66gress. Same Gravatar. And I am now seeing truth. A dozen pseudonyms replying to each other, with the same gravatar. That is fucking mental. Period.

        CH, why do you allow this Sling Blade mothafucka to persist here? You have even, the higher evidence, the registry and the IPs. I find it weird…

        “I LIKE DEM DER FRENCH FRIED PERTATERS MMMMM HMMMM”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:13 am The Spirit Within

        Imagining a bunch of sock puppets is what’s fucking paranoid, JayinDC.

        Love that scene, though.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:25 am Scray

        Jay. Relax, dawg.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm Theodore Logan

        Noticed that too.

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  15. on January 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    RE: Your tweet

    “Let’s face it, girls who bitch online about ‘creepers’ are really fug attention whores who secretly wish they had admirers.”

    Some of them might be. But let’s face it, CH, there are a lot of guys out there with really, really bad game…and being on the receiving end of it, day in and day out, can grind you down. The effect is cumulative and, over time, can result in a woman really losing patience as well as perspective. This is how guys who are genuinely just trying to get to know someone, albeit in an unsophisticated way, wind up getting painted with the “creeper” brush.

    Don’t take my word for it. Here’s a guy who, just for shits and giggles, masqueraded online as a very average-looking woman for two hours…

    http://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1uqym6/as_a_guy_i_wanted_to_know_what_it_was_like_to_be/

    [CH: The example you gave is not a creeper. That’s just a garden variety prankster. Big difference, and you know it. Otherwise, your point is taken. But do note I specified “online” bitching. Women who bitch online are more like attention whores than genuinely put-off objects of some omega suitor’s amateur wooing. In real life when women deploy the creeper label, it aligns more often with actual creeper contact.]

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:44 pm Grim

      The point of this blog is that it is unfortunate that women’s biology requires them to want “game,” which means “treat me like a cocky, irrationally overconfident asshole and neg me.” So by very, very bad game, you are referring to decent greater beta men who are in a gym lifting weights, probably decently fit, to say polite things and try to make polite conversation or say something like “maybe we could go out sometime.” That is a “creeper.”

      The “creeper,” if he’s 29 or so and the female “victim” is 24 to 26, actually, usually would make a great husband and father for the “victim.”

      The victim, however, being still in the middle of her ride on the cock carousel from age 19 to 34, will then, at age 34, go on match.com and create a retarded profile bitching “are there any good men?” and “chivalry is not dead,” and she will not remember all the good men she rejected from age 23 to 28, who literally would have married her and stayed with her for 50 years.

      http://www.lightlybraisedturnip.com/story-for-women-on-matchcom/2013/3/16/a-parable-for-the-older-single-women-of-matchcom-told-by-pro.html

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:13 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        The guy in the gym who says “maybe we could go out sometime” (Dude A) isn’t displaying “bad game.” The guy in the gym who rolls up on her while she’s in the middle of a set and starts pompously informing her that she’s doing it all wrong, and that if she keeps using weights that high she’s going to wind up with a big ass (Dude B)…THAT guy is displaying bad game.

        The problem comes in when poor Dude A has the misfortune to make his approach after she’s just dealt with 10 Dude Bs in a row.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 2:48 pm Grim

        I agree with that. But how do you feel about the parable to which I linked?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:56 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        The parable is an illustration of a series of very common tropes in the manosphere. But since you’ve specifically asked for my opinion, here goes:

        It is true that there is no such thing as a perfect-unicorn guy who will make all your wishes come true, who will support you and indulge your every whim and do everything you want and never hurt your feelings. He doesn’t exist. There is no such thing as a “perfect man.” There is no “one true love.” There are, however, a number of men whom you could love, and who could love you in return.

        It is, therefore, true that you probably already know at least one guy who fits that description.

        It is true that, if you wish to have children, your chances of being able to do so without medical intervention drop off sharply at age 35.

        So, therefore, if your goals are to marry and have children, it is probably in your best interest if you make a realistic appraisal of yourself and your options—and the closest at hand are men you already know—and exercise them before you turn 30.

        That said, everyone’s mileage varies. Perhaps, like me, you do not want children. Perhaps you are ambivalent about getting married at all. Perhaps you know that there’s no such thing as perfect, but you’re not willing to settle anyway. Perhaps you’re OK with putting off kids until you’re 40 and using all the bucks you racked up in your career to pay for IVF.

        We all takes our money and places our bets, and lets the chips fall where they may.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:17 am Grim

        lzozlzolzozllzozoz. Actually being on match.com or POF as a man searching for women would change some of your views. There are millions of females on there who:

        1. are age 36 to 42;
        2. are pretty (used to be 7s or 8s)
        3. DO want kids (lzozlozlzozoz) who are totally brainwashed. They are fucking 39 and want kids “some day” (they are completely delusional or appear to be)
        4. ask “where are all the good men?” and say “chilvalry is not dead” and their profile description is a pre-emptive bitchfest bitching out the betas who would actually be nice to her, saying “you have to pay for this and wine and dine me” essentially literally because they are mad about all the alpha pump n dumps they got the past 15 years, exactly as explained by GBFM in one of his oft-pasted comments. “Now you (beta) must pay…” for the cock carousel ride the pump n dumps the alphas gave me.
        5. there are no perfect women either. the marriage strike was begun by women. the good men wanted to marry you when you were 25 or 27 and we were 28 or 29……that does happen. the good women are taken and are not on match.com

        If you show me a woman aged 35 to 39 who is on match.com, there is a reason for that. She has issues and is not a good catch and is not worthy of chivalry or commitment.

        Well, I’m chivalrous with anyone all the time, because I’m a good man and it’s not hard to hold a door open. Every day I hold the door for 3 to 8 fatties who are either oblivious (“that’s just what men do”) or downright rude. They rarely say “thanks.” A man could be struggling with two 80 pound weird shaped objects by the way, trying to get through a door, and only 1 out of 100 women would even think to hold the door open for him.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:24 am Grim

        CH, why won’t you let me respond to Amy when we are in agreement? She wants to set me up with her hot 25 year old Latina friend!!! 😉

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:40 am Grim

        Shorter response: it ain’t no trope. Bottom line is that a 35-year-old woman with a notch count of 40 or 70 or even 30 or 20 is truly clueless as to how horrific that is, making her completely unworthy of commitment. She gave it up commitment-free to all those Jasons (from the parable) from age 18-35, giving away her good milk, and now she wants a niceguy beta to marry her at age 38 and have only her growing-old years!!! lzozlzozlzozlzoz.

        Short part over (sorry):

        The betas are rightfully doubly offended by this scheme and the ignorance of the women, because–as has been documented in numerous places, some of which have been referenced by CH in the past–the average 38 year old man, even a good looking greater beta who’s not a total omega dweeb creeper, has a notch count far lower than the average 38 year old 7 woman ****AND**** has had sex a total number of times WAAAAAAAAAY fewer, if you follow me. While the 7s and 8s women were having a blast from age 19-35 getting laid whenever they want (could be 250 times a year if they want that) being frivolous, the 38 year old beta man they now seek on match.com was working most nights, building his career, not getting laid on 90% of all his nights.

        Can you get that? That’s another reason why men can’t understand why women complain about being hit on everywhere they go.

        Even a moderately successful (with women) greater beta, who has, say, a notch count of 15 (from about that many LTRs over the 20 years of his adult life), will have had many looooooong dry spells that a 7 or 8 woman does not have to endure.

        It’s another example of women not being able to deal with what men deal with routinely. I used to have an LTR with a true HB9 little hottie, when she was 22 and I was 25….sex was awesome. On one night I was tired and knew I had to get up early for a big day at work, wanted to sleep, she was IRATE about “another night I’m not going to get fucked!!!!!” boo hoo hoo sweetie, try being a man.

        It is now 13 years later and I have not kept in touch with her but I guarantee you she has probably had sex at least 3,250 times in the past 13 years (she likes sex…props for that). That number is astronomically higher than my number, even though I’m a horny guy who would like to have sex 3 times a day.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:14 am Amy

        “Well, I’m chivalrous with anyone all the time, because I’m a good man and it’s not hard to hold a door open. Every day I hold the door for 3 to 8 fatties who are either oblivious (“that’s just what men do”) or downright rude.”

        And I’m sure you feel like it’s rarely appreciated (because sadly you’re probably right) but the women who DO appreciate it, really do appreciate it and will thank you.

        Whenever I bring this up in men’s forums it turns into a brawl, but *in my experience* there are still a lot of men, including some men in their 20’s, holding doors for women. Not just holding it behind them, but holding it open and letting me pass through first. The old-fashioned way. I don’t expect it, but when it happens it’s very nice and I express appreciation. If you’re doing that, (1) it isn’t beta, and (2) any girl with some class will appreciate it and thank you. Of course rude bitches will not.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:25 am Zombie Shane

        > “They are fucking 39 and want kids “some day” (they are completely delusional or appear to be)”

        This is one of the most viciously nihilistic aspects of The Frankfurt School’s War on Women [a.k.a. “feminism”]: It fails to warn young women that the time to have children is NOW.

        Instead, The Frankfurt School keeps pushing barren or near-barren heavily plastic-surgeried childless old sows as models of femininity:

        * Sandra Bullock, 0 biological children, DOB July 26, 1964, now 49

        * Jennifer Anniston, 0 biological children, DOB February 11, 1969, now 44

        * Charlize Theron, 0 biological children, DOB August 7, 1975, now 38

        Sandra Bullock should have been trying for kids no later than about 1994, after she made “Speed”.

        Jennifer Anniston should have been trying for kids no later than about 1999, halfway through the run of “Friends” [but, of course, The Frankfurt School scriptwriters would never allow a filthy shiksa whore to give birth to a living breathing human child on American television].

        Charlize Theron should have been trying for kids no later than about 2005, after she made Aeon Flux.

        Etc etc etc.

        Some huge percentage of all children – well in excess of 90% – are born to women who are 35-years-old or younger, but The Frankfurt School is never going to tell that precious little secret to the shiksas.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:30 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        That’s not my experience, ZS. Starting from the day I graduated college I’ve had doctors, colleagues, even random strangers all up on my jock about how I needed to start crankin’ out the babies RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW! BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE! And then acting shocked, horrified, even enraged when I told them I couldn’t WAIT for it to be too late.

        And two of those doctors were non-shellfish-eatin’ types, so there’s that as well.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:37 pm Never Mind the Balzac

        “if she keeps using weights that high she’s going to wind up with a big ass”

        A big ass is an antisocial construct.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm Amy

        Here’s an example of creeper game: Guy downloads a photo off Facebook of a girl he met briefly through mutual friends, photoshops himself into it, and posts it to his wall with caption “Girl and me in NYC”. Girl has never been anywhere with him, ever.

        [CH: Depends on the context. Did he post that chopped photo to boost his “preselected by women” score to improve his lay ratio with other women? Then it’s not creepy, it’s devious. But if he posted it to force a fantasy relationship with this particular chick, then that is creepy. Borderline flesh dress creepy. Omega male territory.]

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:59 am Amy

        In my case I think it’s more the latter than the former, but even if it’s just the former… that isn’t creepy to you? I bet you would never do or recommend that. You might go out of your way to get pics with hot girls and post them, but you’d never photoshop a girl in and misrepresent that she was actually there with you! I find this really freakish. It probably took him a while to do it, too.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:45 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      Oh, the example isn’t a creeper himself…he *is* a prankster. My point is, in the course of his prank, he got two hours’ worth of being creeped on and found the experience disturbing.

      Your point about bitching online vs. bitching about how one is treated online is well-taken. Then again, in an age when everybody feels it necessary to post pictures of the salad they had for lunch, it’s no surprise to find that some women feel it necessary to air every moderately annoying social interaction they had as well.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:33 am Matthew King

        Again, more apologetics for the princess syndrome.

        If a life on OK Cupid is exhausting, if it is so distressing that it moves that transgender poseur/white knight to think “women have it so much harder than guys do,” then stop subjecting yourself to the circumstances which create the distress rather than demanding the world and masculine nature bend itself around your sensibilities.

        I go out in a low-cut top, push-up bra, and yoga pants and the guys won’t stop staring! What pigs! My eyes are up here!

        These contradictions simply do not compute to the modern whore.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:46 am RappaccinisDaughter

        If you’re going to call me a whore again, Matt, the very least you could do is pull my hair while you’re at it. That’s just good manners.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 1:50 pm Tilikum

      that’s why you never hit girls over 22. clogged filters.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:53 am Anonymous

        This.

        Someone needs to teach the Redditors not to white knight the feminists who complain about “older men in my industry” hitting on them at conferences. If you’re over 22 and female, you’re supposed to be looking for older guys in your industry who are maybe about to cash out so you can both retire young and raise children.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 11:25 am Matthew King

      Some of them might be. But let’s face it, CH, there are a lot of guys out there with really, really bad game…and being on the receiving end of it, day in and day out, can grind you down.

      It’s not all about you and your comfort zone, princess.

      The effect is cumulative and, over time, can result in a woman really losing patience as well as perspective.

      Patience is a virtue, a particularly feminine virtue. The necessity of male initiative — the one who must approach — requires patience for a difficult connection to work. You, on the other hand, are looking for any excuse to be curt and cuntly, pretending that a poor fellow’s social awkwardness gives you license to condescend and roll your eyes rather than help him out.

      So along with your self-centeredness comes its typical companion: the denial of culpability. If an awkward proposition occurs, it’s all because of his “really, really bad game.” Meantime there are hundreds of ways to turn the interaction positive if you took partial ownership of it, ways any B to B+ girl should have developed by now as a part of her social repertoire.

      The argument from sheer frequency and volume — it happens so much that you have a right to be frustrated — is similarly a non-starter. The more it happens, the more practiced you should be at defusing an interaction before it reaches the awkward stage. Women, by virtue of the fact that they hold the right of judgment, should do more than what you assume is required of them. But then, today’s iPhone absorbed asocial bitch never went to finishing school, and any demands of politesse is utterly lost on them.

      And don’t think women have some unique perspective on this circumstance exclusive to their sex. We all have little brother types, young shavers developing their social graces who tend to embarrass themselves and the group. As any genuine PUA-trainer will tell you, it is an art in itself to rescue your boy after he steps in it.

      This is how guys who are genuinely just trying to get to know someone, albeit in an unsophisticated way, wind up getting painted with the “creeper” brush.

      Why do you allow it to happen, since you apparently know the score? Could it be your own deficiencies in the promotion of group comity?

      I don’t suffer cunts. They take the easy way out and think they fart perfume clouds. It’s a pastime to turn their ridiculous snobbery on their heads and publicly embarrass them for being uncouth in the extreme (as they like having done to them). Your point is taken, and yet you instinctively apologize for crass female behavior in response to crass male behavior, which requires a public rebuke.

      Matt

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:19 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        For someone who likes to tout the theory that women are solipsistic and argue from anecdote only, you’ve missed something rather crucial about the post to which you are responding: Nowhere in there were the words “I,” “me,” or “my” used. Not once. That post is actually rather conciliatory towards and understanding of the unsophisticated, shy, or socially awkward male who finds himself tarred and feathered as a creeper…it merely offers an explanation of how and why that happens. (Complete with an illustrative URL from a male perspective, no less.)

        But since you’ve elected to make this personal, to make this about you and me, let’s forge down that path. Here are some behaviors you, personally, have exhibited towards me, specifically:

        1. Informed me that I like big cocks. Ignored protestations to the contrary.
        2. Informed me that you have one.
        3. Informed me that if I were ever to experience it, it would cause the scales to fall from my eyes as if your one-eyed trouser snake were somehow a fleshy, veiny road to Damascus.
        4. Informed me that you would like to “lick the poison from my skin,” which I assume was a reference to my nickname. So, kudos on getting the literary reference, I suppose.
        5. When I was unavailable for several days, created a sockpuppet of me.
        6. Which you then talked to, like some bizarre Jesuitical version of “Romper Room.” (I guess I got to play Lambie-of-God-Pie.)

        I suppose I was remiss in not immediately informing you that these behaviors are not alluring, intriguing, or attractive; I simply assumed that you were trying to be More Creepy Than Creepy for the sheer joy of it. Which I respect. However, since you apparently do hold me responsible for not only tolerating the behavior but correcting it (“it is an art in itself to rescue your boy after he steps in it”), allow me to offer one piece of advice:

        As clever a stroke of synecdoche as it may seem to call a woman a “cunt,” it is actually neither novel nor shocking. We have all heard it before. Although the dictionary definition is “vulgar term for a vagina,” the real translation is “I am a sad little man, and your instinct to ignore me was absolutely correct.”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:38 pm Matthew King

        For someone with an “instinct to ignore me,” you have a strange memory for detail from months- (or years-?) old throwaway lines. I wonder if this private list to which you keep adding constitutes your entire bill of particulars.

        Meantime, your tryhard attempt to belittle me as “creepy” by exaggerating the guessed-at meaning behind casual remarks demonstrates my criticism of your type to have been accurate. It also confirms that nipping this brand of cuntliness in the bud is wise policy, wherever found.

        You don’t seem to understand that this is not the place to file a brief for The Princess Prerogative, even if it attracts the usual white knights who pretend to sympathize with what they imagine are “Hot Chick Problems.” We’re about a dozen steps ahead of your conservative-cum-tranny-cum-slut shenanigans.

        Matt

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:44 pm Anonymous

        I am CONVINCED you are my ex GF.

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  16. on January 29, 2014 at 1:32 pm Anon

    Assimilation for thee, but not for me:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/netanyahu-blasted-for-sons-non-jewish-girlfriend/

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  17. on January 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm Tilikum

    just because

    this what a girl worth commitment looks like, and listen to what she’s saying….

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 2:31 pm darkhorse

      lol facsimile of my primary’s body

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 3:58 pm corvinus

      Perhaps… but whiggers are posers by definition.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 9:04 pm Tilikum

        or adapting to what works…….

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 6:00 pm ACG1

      Ariana Grande is a legit 10

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:08 pm corvinus

        She’s an 8.5 in my eyes.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:54 pm darkhorse

        I agree not a 10, but I think she qualifies as a 9 though. Let’s do the math. On a percentage basis, there are just very few women in the world who are as attractive.

        Just for contrast, here are examples of women who get paid for their looks in a competitive, international “looks” marketplace:

        http://www.musenyc.com/results.aspx?nav=2&subid=8846

        Like VERY few women can legitimately make money from just their looks. You have to be really beautiful. Ariana Grande would fit in fine amid this group, although she might be too short.

        Legit female beauty is rare. Think about Victoria’s Secret models. There are maybe 12 or 20 of them in the ENTIRE WORLD. Understand the rarity of that – objectively, not as an exercise in pedestalizing female beautry. There are more MLB all stars than there are Victoria’s Secret models. World-class athletic talent is pedestrian when compared to female beauty that when placed in front of a camera or marched down a run way can independently generate a six-figure income.

        My point is there are very few women in the world who have the level of fitness, bodily proportions, facial beauty as Ariana Grande. She may not be a 10, or your cup of tea if you have a thing for blonde girls or can only get it up for a ginger chick with freckles, but I imagine she is easily in the top 1% of females ranked by beauty when you take into account all female sexual options in the world.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:42 pm ACG1

        If the top 1% don’t qualify as tens, who does?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:17 pm darkhorse

        If beauty could be measured on a normally distributed scale with 1 and 10 as then endpoints, then we might envision “10” as a single point occupied by most beautiful woman in the world lol.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:04 pm ACG1

        “If beauty could be measured on a normally distributed scale with 1 and 10 as then endpoints, then we might envision “10″ as a single point occupied by most beautiful woman in the world lol.”

        Fair enough, but doesn’t really make sense for what’s actually a discretely categorized distribution (I’ve never seen someone rate a chick as a 9.78234152938). I prefer to think of it as ten vertical bars that look roughly like a normal curve (i.e. the middle bars are taller than the ends), but the ends still have a significant chunk of the population.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:39 pm Hugh Mann

        Don’t like the colour of her moustache.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:37 pm Anonymous

        U should have posted my first response to this one giving background on her an Victoria justice. Was on point

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 1:21 pm Jay in DC

      She is 20 and famous so of course she is going to be bangin’ hot. She is a little (just slightly) too dark for my tastes for a “true” commitment but girlfriend worth fo’ sho’.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:02 pm Tilikum

        i usually don’t chase r’s but the looks, the youth, and the $$$. yikes.

        ;P

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  18. on January 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm newly aloof

    I tried to be picky back in my prime, but my dick kept overriding me with, “Dude, I got one squinty eye so all these pussies look the same to me from two inches away, all of them are just as warm and juicy, and all of them make me feel better than you fappin’ the snot out of me.”

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 3:11 pm fakeemail

      The key when you’re desperate is to NOT bed down with a fatty. You find a thin girl with a bad face (often an Asian girl) and turn off the lights during sex. Let your mind take care of the rest. . .

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:26 pm newly aloof

        I wasn’t desperate in the slightest. Just drank a lot and had an easier time using the Juggler Method of making most girls interesting enough to let the imperfections slide enough to bang them. Rarely was it something I’d be ashamed of when sober. A ton of girls are just a sliver too fat, or a few inches too short ,or a little butterface, blah blah blah for a lot of guys. Yeah the HBs are fantastic, but those other girls were some wild, memorable rides too.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 3:37 pm newly aloof

        P.S. Case in point. The following girl. If you look at her face, it ain’t much. If you put this girl into a sweater and sweat pants covering up her body, most dudes would pass on her for something hotter. But back in the day, it’d do her. I could look past the face and the clubby figure to see the big titties and naval ring and possibly wild in bed girl. Sure, I’d aim higher, but again, at the end of the night this girl or fap … easy fuckin’ answer for me. http://www.primecurves.com/chrissy-boobs-with-a-smile/

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:06 pm Zombie Shane

        > “If you put this girl into a sweater and sweat pants covering up her body, most dudes would pass on her”

        Without her clothes on, that chick has a frigging awesome body.

        Frigging AWESOME.

        Like 9.5 out of 10 on the body.

        > “possibly wild in bed girl”

        She looks as though she would fuck like an animal.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:40 pm Scray

        Same exact body as she-who-will-not-be-named almost. Actually, I think SWWNBN was thinner with better hips. Goddammit. Now I want to put my fist in my mouth and scream.

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:50 pm darkhorse

        girl in question has cankles. this is a natural 9+ bod…

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 10:52 pm Champagne and Cocaine

        Uh, you’re joshing with us right?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:18 am corvinus

        6 face, 7 body. Bangable, but I’d still be checking out other girls.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:29 am Scray

        Ya, more like that chick in darkhorse’s pic but with lighter skin and bigger tits.
        …
        fml

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 6:22 pm darkhorse

        Wouldn’t bang. 6.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:35 am newly aloof

        Yes, aim high, but 6 > fap.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:16 pm Grizzly

        Overweight, saggy tits, disgusting nipples, mediocre face…..she would be a 6 if the guy looking at her was legally blind and forgot his glasses. Pass.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:58 pm newly aloof

        Always try to aim higher in ideal conditions: http://www.bustybloom.com/galleries/evasgarden/courtney_cass/sequoia

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:37 pm Ryan Vann

        Honestly, I like the body (on the right frame, that of being bottom heavy, a little extra weight is great in my opinion), but the tits are a bit out of control for me. I mean she is better than the fake breasted airbrush jobs posted below, but she could use some reduction in the chest area.

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  19. on January 29, 2014 at 2:38 pm tteclod

    My brother, a fat lard-assed creepy and slightly insane nerd if ever such a being existed, recently landed himself a Ukrainian who’s living with him preliminary to marriage. I haven’t met her, but according to my parents, she’s WAAAAAYYYY out of his league in appearance, speaks at least three languages fluently, and meets all the uber-Christian criteria my parents and brother require. [I am convinced he’s kept her from me so as not to confuse the girl with my dominance.] After dating a few loony toons here in the states, he bought a plane ticket and flew to Kiev three years ago. The result of his efforts now shares his home in some hick Texas burg.

    Gentlemen, this is the result of American male choosiness. If a guy who absent-mindedly walks into the kitchen with my wife and I carrying a handgun upside-down but pointed forward can catch one of these hotties, anybody can do it.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 3:32 pm Anonymous

      The challenge is keeping them. They will work to improve a man, however, if they married in good faith.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:49 pm tteclod

        It’s been a LONG engagement, at a distance, with lots of airfare. One hopes he does well.

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  20. on January 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm Jack

    I for one am glad CH is naming the jew, in a way that only he can.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 3:16 pm Theodore Logan

      The Dicaprio vs. Putin post was the only time I saw that happen. Though I appreciate the real talk and then immediately use game as a cover MO.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 7:17 pm Anonymous

      2% reference in this very post idiots

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  21. on January 29, 2014 at 2:43 pm Ronin

    The funny thing is when you lodge a critique of any sort in a cmmts section.

    -Not just the chicks, but their WK-sperglings base-jump right down your throat about how you must be Sooo perfect that you would actually DARE to criticize the looks of a poor, defenseless little girl.

    Memorize the Phi Mask for the face, along with what you already know for the body in The Hourglass.
    I guarantee it will make you a smarter, less-easily-impressed ‘consumer’ aware of the ‘Breed Standard’, like in dog-shows.

    -Which might feed right into your Alpha*Aloofness Quotient.

    There was a NatGeo (?) vid on this somewhere in a series I think called “The History of Sex” (or sommat).

    .
    fyi, the metrics list for the classical ‘breed-standard’ (which is the baby-face) included: brow-distance, chin-distance, chin width, jaw-roundness, cheek-convexity, forehead-convexity, vertical eye-placement, horiz eye-distance, apparent eye-size, ratio of upper-face to lower-face size (women are supposed to have upper slightly bigger than lower, (men the reverse (big jaws)), size & ‘cupid’s-bowing’ of upper lip (thin lips make women look old), nose-length, philtrum-length, + then all the rest you probably look at already.

    Exaggerations/errors in these, either too big or too small made them either look too Old, or just too weird.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm thwack

      Too complicated for my tiny negro mind.

      This is the perfect woman:

      http://www.docstoc.com/docs/952069/The-Perfect-Woman

      [CH: What did I say about curbing your “tiny negro mind” ad absurdum trolling? It’s played, governor. Played into overtime.]

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:31 pm thwack

        OK, let me rephrase it. Ronin may be correct, but thats a lot to remember, even for you guys.

        Is there an app for it?

        Or does Matt King have the ancient heuristic quiv for it?

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 4:56 pm Ronin

        Google Images, “Phi Mask”: http://images.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1057&bih=852&q=phi+mask&oq=phi+mask&gs_l=img.3..0j0i24l3.2239.3570.0.3776.8.8.0.0.0.0.132.390.6j1.7.0….0…1ac.1.32.img..1.7.389.FNQEEqlA1yc

        Show v. similar to Discovery’s “The Science of Sex Appeal”, but they went over this one girl’s face very specifically.

        cilp: “Science of Sex Appeal- Is Your Face Attractive?”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVhKSzSpXMA

        clip: “The Beauty of Symmetry”: http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/other-shows/videos/science-of-sex-appeal-the-beauty-of-symmetry.htm

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:06 pm Ronin

        CH mentioned the Cupid’s Bow Lip, also: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/from-the-lips-of-babes/

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      • on January 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm Ronin

        AHA! Found it; -BBC One, “The Human Face” 4pt. docu w/ John Cleese: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZe9g2Huz0

        there you go

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  22. on January 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm Anonymous

    OT: clueless alpha male posts the latest man-up article.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/29/seahawks-broncos-manning-what-men-really-need-to-know-about-super-bowl-xlviii/

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:39 am FamilyMan

      They say it’s based on biblical truths. I haven’t watched the videos or whatever they have, but are you sure it’s crap?

      Anything that says guys should not spend all their time gaming, has some truth to it.

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  23. on January 29, 2014 at 3:21 pm blox

    as evidenced by the homeless bum at the grocery store who asked me for a beer instead of taking some change, beggars CAN be choosers

    amerika, where everyone thinks they deserve caviar but couldn’t even catch a catfish

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  24. on January 29, 2014 at 3:48 pm walawala

    The “picky man” can also be an ego trap. You don’t go out because you rationalize to yourself that women are all ugly so why waste your time.

    Then you become a keyboard jockey.

    It takes hard work to get off one’s ass and just do something…anything to interact with the opposite sex.

    Bars—no. But take a class, women take classes out of interest and I’ve met decent women I’ve banged taking general interest or especially dance classes.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 11:33 am Scray

      99% of the time it is an ego trap. Generally, if you’re pulling girls within 1 point of your current looks-derived SMV (plus/minus), you’re doing great I’d say. Way better than most guys. Sure you can do better if you push yourself, but I think a lot of guys confuse objective beauty with “relative to me” beauty.

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  25. on January 29, 2014 at 4:10 pm Troubadour

    A few random thoughts…

    a) Certain races… It is a weird thing that African women are soooooo ugly in comparison to everyone else

    b) Not all men are choosy. I have a friend whose standard of beauty is does it have a vagina. He is very comfortable being the butt of all our jokes, and tapping all the ass nobody else wants, but I’d rather do without, as would everyone else in our circle.

    c) Weirdly enough, I’ve devoted a ton of self-improvement work to the goal of banging prettier women, but I don’t really see your snotty neighborhood sorority slut as breeding stock, and it doesn’t bother me to have settled down to raise kids with a more plain specimen. I see hot women as toys, stockier women as baby producers and mothers. There’s even something a little unappealing about spoiling a beautiful specimen by stretching out her gut.

    The last one is especially interesting. It seems to me if hot women weren’t so incredibly rare relative to the massive abundance of fattitude, it would seem like less of a violation to plant babies in them. This self observation says something key about how I still have hot women on a pedestal. I need to think on this one. If I’m not willing to shoot a baby in her cooter because I don’t want to break the delicate china plate or some shit, my attitude is still fucked up.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 5:11 pm BlackPoisonSoul

      Pedestal indeed, good to know that you’ve realised it. Eventually you will be able to violate with glee – and she will love you with abandon for every enthusiastic violation.

      I believe that I’m channeling CH there.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 5:12 pm Skunk

      Would you rather be the guy who wrecked it or the guy who got stuck with the broken remains

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:43 am FamilyMan

      I don’t think young African women are necessarily ugly at all. Some of them have a very nice shape and I am even entranced by their faces. They look lovely. I sorta wanted to date a girl from Ghana when I was in school.

      When they get old they balloon up, and that’s a big problem.

      Also African American women rarely look as good as the more attractive African women. Someone theorized that it’s because the slave women had to be able to withstand the passage on the ship and the really fat ones were best suited to that, or something.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:06 am thwack

        Trubador suffers from not getting out very much, old tee vee watching, or a combination of both.; he reminds me of one of those people white people who think Africa is a country; Its not. Its more like 4 or 5 continents in one. The Caribbean is like that too.

        Also, in addition to the middle passage, there was another type of selection that resulted in the so called “African American”. We really don’t know where the Africans who were sold into slavery by other Africans came from. Most people don’t realize that the European didn’t park his ship and go ashore and capture black people. Thats a lie spread by the movie “Roots”.

        It was a very sophisticated trade arrangement and you had to play by the rules which were set up by the Africans. Same thing with gold.

        Im sure the Africans on the coast sold their criminals and undesirables to the white man; but for the vast majority, nobody can be sure of there origin. The internal slave trade is probably more interesting than the one we know about.

        African women are very conservative compared to African American; they have no problem “playing their position”; and even if they did, their family will straighten them out; and Im not even talking about the Muslim ones.

        In many ways, African Americans are the most fucked up black people on the planet. They are just so lost and mentally destroyed… don’t get me started on that.

        (((SMMFH)))

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 1:27 pm Jay in DC

        In many ways, African Americans are the most fucked up black people on the planet. They are just so lost and mentally destroyed… don’t get me started on that.

        Pretty much, and I’m telling you that Africans that come here now are NOT well liked by their AA sistas for all the reasons you already know and some you stated above.

        Though I ain’t really down with the dark chocolate I’ve seen some African immigrants from certain areas, Ethiopian, Morrocan, etc. that are hot by any yardstick. Of course, as always, there tends to be significant cream stirred into that coffee somewhere along the way.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:46 pm Hugh Mann

        Somali girls are slender, physically attractive, great clothes. Do have some other drawbacks though.

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      • on February 4, 2014 at 1:32 am Troubadour

        I know a guy from Senegal who would totally agree with you that African Americans are the most fucked up black people on the planet.

        Trinidad and Tobago isn’t Africa dude. I’m talking Somalia, Senegal, Kenya, Côte d’Ivoire, and so on like that. The women I picture are tall, straight, severe looking, angular creatures with closely cropped hair, and they look like they would be at home hunting lions with spears or something. They’re more athletic and practical than beautiful to my eye.

        I’ve never traveled outside the US, so this is all based on National Geographic, textbooks, web articles, and so on like that. I could be totally full of shit, and Africa could be crawling with gorgeous hotties, but I doubt it.

        For the record, I’ve never paid anybody to fuck me, although at the start of my midlife crisis I did pay a college student $50 just to allow me to pay for her dinner before she made a hasty exit. I’ve come a long way since I was that guy, but I have a lot farther to go. I met two girls in 2013. I didn’t fuck either one of them, and so far I’m still technically faithful to my fat ugly wife.

        Yay!

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    • on January 31, 2014 at 12:35 pm thwack

      Troubadour

      It is a weird thing that African women are soooooo ugly in comparison to everyone else
      ————————————————————————————————-

      Have you ever slept with any you didn’t have to pay?

      Go spend two weeks in Trinidad and get back to me.

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 12:48 pm Scray

        Or Jamaica. Some legit hotties there.

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 9:06 pm thwack

        I here ya, but I gotta shout out Trinidad and Tobasco because its some gumbo up in that muhfugga.

        Not only did the European powers snatch it from each other several times over, but they populated the island with people from all over the world. So when a girl says she’s Trinadian, that could mean anything; white, black (include redbones and high yellahs), Chinese redhead, Indian (dot or feather) , Cajun American, Arab… or anything in between.

        I almost don’t want ya’ll to know about it

        Oh well, C’est la vie

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  26. on January 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm Mr.C

    If the spinning of a hamster burnt calories this chick (and I use the term loosely) would soon be anorexic…

    http://www.dailylife.com.au/health-and-fitness/dl-wellbeing/fat-and-easy-are-not-synonyms-20140129-31mhk.html

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  27. on January 29, 2014 at 5:52 pm Mr.C

    Male pickiness is usually Directly Proportional to a mans Value and options.

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  28. on January 29, 2014 at 6:02 pm ACG1

    Create a fake profile of a 3 with no personality on OKCupid or POF. It will be abundantly clear why some people say men have no standards.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 7:19 pm Anonymous

      Nope

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  29. on January 29, 2014 at 7:30 pm whorefinder

    One reason Russian women look so damn good is because of the lack of Russian men around.

    This is true—there are way more females than males in Eastern Europe. Furthermore, the social safety net is dogshit. The result? Women will work there asses to the bone—plastic surgery, calisthenics, blowjob classes–to secure a provider man.

    So the key to well behaved women is twofold: increase the women to male ration —once handled by warfare, which is now unthinkable in the west—and offer no government protection for the women.

    A mass war seems unlikely, but riots and a spare nuclear bomb by Al-Queda could do it here, or a financial collapse—but the latter would take a generation to kick in.

    Am I the only one hoping for a big war with China?

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:46 am FamilyMan

      NYC has a decent ratio. San Diego is terrible, with a Navy base there. I sort of think the whole west coast sucks, ratio wise.

      And now with Fukushima radioactivity problems coming there first and most, there are many reasons to go east young man.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 12:55 am tspark156

      You may be about to get what you want, the armed forces of the west are rapidly approaching there lowest manning levels for since just before the Napoleonic wars. Throughout the last two hundred years numbers of serving regulars have always fallen to their lowest and, numbers of reserves to their highest immediately before a large and lengthy conflict.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:56 am tspark156

        Since, not for since

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:20 am FamilyMan

        Not what I want, it means those men who aren’t on base are elsewhere, like on the east coast.

        And indeed people are giving stories of getting a lot of shit from women in NYC, maybe the ratio isn’t as good as before.

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  30. on January 29, 2014 at 8:27 pm Anonymous

    That would get ugly fast. You can kill 500 million of them and they still would have 900 million people. We would really have to be on our toes to kill that many Chinese without nukes. It could even still have an enormous ground component without that even being the most important or decisive dimension as in previous wars. Both nations have high technological capabilities too. Rifle and MG barrels get really hot fast after about 100 rounds. Several hundred degrees. You have to exchange them for a fresh barrel. That’s tough to do with 100,000 Chinese chasing after you. That would just be a drop in the bucket for them.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 8:56 pm thwack

      The best way to kill your enemies is to get your enemies to kill each other.

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    • on January 29, 2014 at 10:49 pm Mr.C

      What the world really needs is some sort of superflu that can start in China, kill at least 75% of the population, then spread to India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and then run rampant through the Middle East where a particularly lethal strain hits Israel and then does a left turn to sweep through all of Africa, getting more lethal as is goes.

      One can dream.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:12 am thwack

        -Mr.C

        What the world really needs is some sort of superflu that can start in China, kill at least 75% of the population, then spread to India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and then run rampant through the Middle East where a particularly lethal strain hits Israel and then does a left turn to sweep through all of Africa, getting more lethal as is goes.

        One can dream.
        ————————————————————————————————-

        The problem with your evil wet dream is HBD.

        You see the Creator, in all his infinite wisdom, accounted for people like you when he designed this world. He made different kinds of things, and even made the same kinds of things a little different from each other; cause he knew a punk ass, bitch made ni66er like you would come along sooner or later.

        Due to the amount of human biogenetic diversity, any pathogen powerful enough to qualify, would be so lethal it would burn itself out before it could become an epidemic.

        Thats why the white man had to give up on Ebola; it would kill an entire village before it could find a healthy host. to infect and continue to spread.

        But, there is one VIRUS capable of killing off large numbers of nonwhite people while leaving white people unharmed.

        Its called the White man.

        And I think you might be one of em.

        I wonder what the Creator has created to deal with you?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:23 pm zek

        Jews.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:06 am thwack

        -Mr.C

        What the world really needs is some sort of superflu that can start in China, kill at least 75% of the population,

        *snip*
        ————————————————————————————————-

        The problem with your evil wet dream is HBD.

        You see the Creator, in all his infinite wisdom, accounted for people like you when he designed this world. He made different kinds of things, and even made the same kinds of things a little different from each other; cause he knew a punk ass, bitch made ni66er like you would come along sooner or later.

        Due to the amount of human biogenetic diversity, any pathogen powerful enough to qualify, would be so lethal it would burn itself out before it could become an epidemic.

        Thats why the white man had to give up on Ebola; it would kill an entire village before it could find a healthy host. to infect and continue to spread.

        But, there is one VIRUS capable of killing off large numbers of nonwhite people while leaving white people unharmed.

        Its called the White man.

        And I think you might be one of em.

        I wonder what the Creator has created to deal with you?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:20 am The Spirit Within

        Well retorted.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:07 pm Greg Eliot

        You especially liked his claim that the white man either invented… or rooted for… Ebola, eh?

        You stupid little squid. Horse-whipping would be too good for you.

        Thats why the white man had to give up on Ebola; it would kill an entire village before it could find a healthy host. to infect and continue to spread..

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:09 pm thwack

        Marburg virus is a hemorrhagic fever virus first noticed and described during small epidemics in the German cities Marburg and Frankfurt and the Yugoslavian capital Belgrade in the 1960s. Workers were accidentally exposed to tissues of infected grivets (Chlorocebus aethiops) at the city’s former main industrial plant, the Behringwerke, then part of Hoechst, and today of CSL Behring.

        During these outbreaks, 31 people became infected and seven of them died. Marburg virus (MARV) causes severe disease in humans and nonhuman primates in the form of viral hemorrhagic fever.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marburg_virus

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemorrhagic_fever_virus

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:36 pm Greg Eliot

        Thwack, your continued Rooney-rifle attempts to muddy any waters you try to dip a conspiratorial toe in has reached its usual tiresome point.

        First, your snarky attempt to make these early tidbits of arcane medical factoids tied to some sort of Yakubesque white devil plot to invent a disease to kill nonwhite folks is beyond the realm rational consideration, even on a catch-as-catch-can forum such as this.

        Secondly, these selfsame factoids have little to do with the Ebola recognized by nearly all of the non-practitioner public as that “flesh-eating virus” sensationalized by the media (and first brought to the attention of most of us) some 15 or 20 years ago.

        Your disingenuous Afrocentrism gone mad needs to establish a boundary somewhere… all that’s left is trolling entertainment value, which wears thin and closes out of town on its best day.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:07 pm thwack

        Greg Eliot

        Your disingenuous Afrocentrism gone mad needs to establish a boundary somewhere
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        There is already a well established boundary to disingenuous Afrocentrism gone mad. Its called: when “white people start bleeding from every orifice in their bodies”,

        Do you want me to wait till it gets there?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:17 pm Nicole

        See, the facts don’t matter to Greg unless they support his beliefs that “white” people are angelic creatures who have never done and can never do anything wrong…even when they do things that kill other “white” people, and especially if they kill non “white” people.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:32 pm Nicole

        Greg, you may want to read this:
        http://www.citypress.co.za/news/health-council-found-wouter-basson-guilty-unprofessional-conduct/

        If you were less naive, I’d discuss with you the implications of this conviction aside of his being a scapegoat for what was a government policy and not just his being uniquely evil or something.

        Suffice to say, chemical and biological weapons have been and are being used in Africa against inconvenient populations. This is not something new, and shouldn’t be surprising to to you. We’re well beyond conspiracy theories already.

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  31. on January 29, 2014 at 9:25 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    >> casually noting the vast (and increasingly puzzling, based on current performance) overrepresentation in elite institutions of 2% of the population.

    1. if we believe the tenets of Human Biological Diversity…. whatever’s on top ==is== the cream.

    2. if we believe the tenets of Human Biological Diversity…. if the top stuff isn’t getting displaced downwards by something else…. the something else was at best, no better.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 1:58 am L. Jon Hubbard

      Best at what?

      From, the bell curves and populations of each group there should be roughly twice so many goy geniuses and bright people as jew ones.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:56 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        So if the observed facts don’t fit his chosen mathematical models….. L.Jon Hubbard wants to adjust the facts.

        saddest words in the English language ” there should be”

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 4:32 am L. Jon Hubbard

        Straw man and non-sequitur.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:09 am L. Jon Hubbard

        Just to clarify, with “non-sequitur”, I mean it doesn’t follow from a largely atomised, self-hating and mind-controlled group having as members twice so many geniuses as an ethnically cohesive group that has largely through subterfuge and stealth gained control of society’s important choke points (chiefly money and culture creation) that the former group will be able to exercise hegemony.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:56 am Greg Eliot

        The parasite which bests its host is not the same as triumph in a fair fight or achievement on anything close to resembling a level playing field.

        The house isn’t superior to or more worthy than the players… it merely controls the wheel, often to the only game in town.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:54 am Matthew King

        Right, Greg. Genealogy of Morals clarifies this by distinguishing between a morality of “good and bad” (master) vs. a morality of “good and evil” (slave).

        If only boys got a classical education, so much of these remedial exercises would be unnecessary. To GBFM’s credit, he understands the centrality of this modern deficiency and promotes it obsessively. Without that great foundation of “the best that has been thought and said,” we have to start at square one with every earnest but maleducated himbo eager to join us and the forces of light.

        Instead they spend their formative years getting filled with Sojourner Truth and Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Washington Carver inventing the peanut.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:04 pm Greg Eliot

        And how the Tuskeegee Airmen single-handedly won WWII.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 5:29 am SFG

        You can succeed through both honest (working harder and being smart) and dishonest (getting control of the admissions office) methods. They reinforce each other.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 6:16 am Gro Haila

      Of course, the rub is … best at WHAT? Or there is not a Godly reason why Yusuf ben Yaakov does not have his sub-tribe?

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  32. on January 29, 2014 at 9:48 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    >> cut the head off the Russian nation. They systematically murdered the best Russian men in order to prevent anyone from organizing the masses against them. The best male genetic material was basically surgically removed from the population and destroyed

    The “best genetic material” doesn’t lose a protracted battle against a small group with zero military training and no ethnic homeland.

    Look at predator-prey relationships in the wild. The lions are ==not== killing and eating the smartest/fastest-running, fit young zebras. In the real world, predators just barely get the decrepit ones before the vultures do….

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 5:56 am Anonymous

      They killed the best leadership in key cities right away and killed the rest amidst the confusion. One can control Russia by controlling Moscow and St. Petersburg. Germany is decentralized and it’s why you failed there until after the war. It’s been done here as well. Anyone who has the ability to lead an uprising against your power is killed or bought off well before they become a threat. It’s that killer combination of moral and immoral methods of power discussed above. We’ll remember that comment the next time it’s your turn. The world will abandon your people and turn against you. It has long been prophesized. You only succeed now because you have Satan’s blessing.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 6:22 am Gro Haila

        A jew-centric view of post-WWI madness in Russia, i.e. more of the “look at these fucking frontrunners” misdirection.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:46 am Greg Eliot

        You never seem to miss an opportunity to clang that “pay no attention to the (ahem) frontrunners behind the curtain” gong.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:19 am SFG

        Sure, but don’t you think Russians were also sick of getting frozen and starved by the czar and the nobility? Not that Stalin didn’t wind up becoming infinitely worse, but the ancien regime, so to speak, wasn’t that great, and I can’t see why the workers weren’t sick of getting the shaft.

        Anyway, the soft version of Communism–social democracy–worked pretty well in Western Europe until they started importing non-Europeans. Russia’s too corrupt, of course, but I can’t blame ’em for trying.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 10:26 am Greg Eliot

        Decrying what happened during the Revolution and it’s following years… and pointing out the puppet masters and their hencemen… does not equal support of the czar.

        What are you, some sort of hamster-driven chick who thinks only in binary terms?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm SFG

        Nothing binary, just saying there’s plenty of blame to go around. YKW profited from Communism, but it evolved in response to real problems with the Industrial Revolution at the time. And Lazar Kaganovich was YKW, but Stalin and Beria were Georgian. Besides, a lot of times the only choice was between monarchism/fascism, not known for their friendliness to YKW, and communism.

        I could argue your endless focus on YKW is itself pretty binary. Is every movement you don’t like a YKW plot? We’re not that powerful. 😉

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:07 pm Greg Eliot

        Nice try at continued deflection… at least you admit it’s your ox being gored, as “one of them”.

        The point isn’t that NAJALT or that HEY LOOK, THERE’S A NON-JEW COMMIE!!!

        The point is… battling the continued cogdis attempts by your ilk and their shills to label recognizing and calling out the YKW behavior for its deleterious influence as some sort of misconstrued paranoia or of no importance.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 3:57 pm Anonymous

        The Czars were generally popular and well thought of. This was always a frustration for the Communists and they came up with the false paradigm argument to counter it.

        From Peter the Great on, most were standard enlightened absolutist leaders who tried to rule well and saw it as their duty to care for the people of Russia. Russia has always been vast and corrupt at the execution level of administration. I recommend Dead Souls by Gogol to gain a good picture of Russian life. Alexander II who was murdered by YKW Communist agitators, survived the first bomb that destroyed his armored coach and was killed by a second bomb set off because he had gone into the crowd to help a wounded bystander despite being wounded himself.

        Nicholas II made great efforts to reform Russia that were all systematically frustrated by Bolshevik assassins. He appointed Stolypin to be Prime Minister, probably the greatest statesman Russia has ever produced, a man of genius and ability on par with Bismarck or Talleyrand. He would have transformed Russia favorably and brought it into the 20th Century but he was also cut down early by Bolshevik assassins. The provisional government run by Kerensky, also a YKW, but a man who cared for the nation’s fate as a whole, was also murdered by the Bolsheviks. His government would also have been successful and likely have led to favorable results for Russia.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 2:53 pm SFG

        Communism had a huge wellspring of YKWish support, largely because they had trouble with the czar. As did a lot of people.

        I actually think ‘leftism is a YKWish plot’ makes more sense in the modern USA than it does in post-WW1 Russia. Lazar Kaganovich and Felix Dzherzhinsky were scattered among various other minor nationalities ruled by the Russians that had it in for the czar for obvious reasons (the guy in the eight-digit club with Mao and Adolf was a Georgian), but Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer…that I’ll buy.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:43 pm Anonymous

        YKW was highly urbanized in Russia. There were only about 4% living as peasants on the land. Fiddler on the Roof is a quaint myth. YKW dominated Russian professions and were an elite in Russia throughout the 19th Century. There were poor and middle class Russian YKW, but they were disproportionately represented in the wealthy and educated classes. The May laws were a misguided attempt to create a YKW landed gentry and peasantry in order to assimilate them into Russian Society more completely. Most Ukrainians who died in the Holodomor had never even met a YKW. The loyal YKW intelligentsia were also murdered by the Bolsheviks in large numbers too. But Zionism and Communism are ultimately two sides of the same strategy to dominate the world. Ethnic diffusion for everyone but YKW, who retain a special identity and can dominate the key positions in a command economy through ethnic networking and prohibiting people from noticing or speaking out about what is going on. It’s a good plan and has been effective. I think most YKW would pay for the sins of what is ultimately a small minority were a pogrom ever to happen. But in the end, those who dominate us do so because they have the money to do so and they naturally play out their ethnic biases and interests accordingly. I only demand that all be allowed to do so and have that long awaited candid discussion on race.

        BTW, Stalin’s real name is Dschugashvili, which translates roughly to the English name Jewson.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:45 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        >> They killed the best leadership in key cities right away and killed the rest amidst the confusion. One can control Russia by controlling Moscow and St. Petersburg.

        The Russian Royal House was not installed by God. It installed itself some years before by…. killing off any possible opposition You cannot show me a Royal House that was originally installed by taking winning a popular election.

        If it was ==even possible== to kill off the “best leadership” in a short time…. and if killing off a few elites results in 95% of the rest of the population getting “confused”…. then the society/culture being described is not exactly a robust one. In fact, the phrase “a house of cards” comes to mind.

        We know for a fact that the Japanese DECLINED an apparent opportunity to invade the USA mainland in late 1941, EXACTLY BECAUSE they knew that the civilian population was heavily armed…. and possessed a fighting spirit.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:55 pm cortesar

        This post is an perfect example (amongst many) why your tribe is hated across the world and throughout centuries

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      • on January 31, 2014 at 6:41 pm Anonymous

        You realize of course, that your arguments completely justify the Holocaust.

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  33. on January 29, 2014 at 10:12 pm unkempt

    A thousand years my ass. Just look at east Europe. Conquered by the Nazis, and then the Soviets, and a few guys before that too, and they’re frequently regarded as the hottest women in the world because the men all got killed off a few times.

    Also, Heartiste finally names the Jew. What a world.

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  34. on January 29, 2014 at 11:09 pm texaust

    Yes to this post, and I can’t figure out why Vox took this article seriously the other day, when it’s obviously fabricated:

    http://www.alternet.org/im-fat-40-and-single-and-ive-been-getting-laid-crazy

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 5:28 am SFG

      Why is it fabricated? She probably is 40, fat, single, and getting laid like crazy.

      She never says how much game the guys have. Probably she’s on POF picking up every guy who admits to liking Dungeons and Dragons. If you’re willing to settle, you can do quite well, numerically speaking. Of course, it’s only thanks to feminism a woman thinks that’s something to shoot for in her case.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:51 am Greg Eliot

        I think it’s true as well… we’ve all seen far worse than her finding willing one night stands.

        The fact that sluttish behavior is now celebrated as female empowerment, even among the age group of women that, in a normal society, would be wise grandmothers teaching their younger charges the ways of polite society, speaks (yet greater) volumes of the rot that has overtaken the West.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:38 pm Nicole

        …or sassy old broads teaching unmarriageable and unlucky women how to cut their losses and do the best they can with what they have.

        A society’s success or decline does not rest solely on its “polite” members. Part of the problem with folks today is that the underground that should be the underground has been mainstreamed, and the quality of both sides have suffered for it.

        An older woman who finds herself on the market after misfortune, or a woman who has always been unmarriageable, should still conduct herself with a degree of dignity that does not spread dysfunction. It is one thing to triumph despite adversity, and find a way to express and enjoy one’s sexuality and womanhood despite having to take a non conventional or otherwise difficult path, but quite another to encourage people to do things that are sure to bring them to ruin.

        I’m 40+, fat, and also have the option of getting laid like crazy, but because I’m selective, I’m getting laid sanely. Over 40 is the age to start doing that though, not in the teens and 20’s.

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  35. on January 30, 2014 at 1:50 am L. Jon Hubbard

    “Look at predator-prey relationships in the wild. The lions are ==not== killing and eating the smartest/fastest-running, fit young zebras. In the real world, predators just barely get the decrepit ones before the vultures do….”

    Are you really stupid enough not to recognise how getting nourishment from animals of other species (which hasn’t directly put any significant evolutionary pressure on men for some time now) is different from killing off same-species competitors for territorial political dominance or is your post merely a piss-poor attempt at obfuscation?

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 6:27 am Gro Haila

      Yes, he is THAT stupid, and the fact that the likes of him occupy the positions they do should tell everybody paying attention something.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:24 am L. Jon Hubbard

        Most TV execs, bank owners, judges, mutual fund managers, etc. would be smart enough to both recognise the distinction and appreciate among which audiences they could successfully blur it, leaving one to doubt that the author of the OP could possibly be a member of an equivalent group and think “low-rent hasbara troll” more likely.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 7:49 am L. Jon Hubbard

        That they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel for hasbara trolls these days is not particularly noteworthy or even topical.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:33 am Gro Haila

        Quite. Because the use of the Zhyd (at the top) and Negro (at the bottom) in stabilizing the social dynamic in favor of the Cracker Master Race shall not be discussed.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:43 am Greg Eliot

        The so-called social dynamic has been neither stable NOR in favor of your cracker bogeymen for quite some time now.

        I’m still undecided whether you’re merely (yet) another Yiddler troll or just (yet) another dumb n166er with enough white blood to give you delusions of cogdis adequacy.

        Probably the latter…

        Regardless of which, certainly overrepresented on forums such as these in general… and here at the chateau in particular.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:47 am Gro Haila

        Slav – slave

        who said the colour of the skin matters any?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:09 am Greg Eliot

        If it were merely the color of the skin, you’d have a point… beyond the one on your shoulders.

        As has been explained ad nauseum here at the cheateau… indeed, on pretty much ALL such forums in Cyberia… the problem is the set of behaviors that invariably seem to accompany said skin hues.

        The outward appearance just happens to be Mother Nature’s way… in her infinite and never-failing wisdom… of broadcasting the differences between types…

        Probably as a defense mechanism… which used to work pretty well, until the West got stupid and decided to let the hornets’ nests remain in the backyard, lest they be deemed unjust to the handful of “good” creatures that wouldn’t sting.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:13 am L. Jon Hubbard

        I agree. Noone but a Negro would ever use the phrasal verb, “to hate on [someone/something]”. I think it might be a thwack alter-ego. If it is, he’s a genius — should have been him writing for In Living Colour’s Cornel West parody skits.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 11:08 am Greg Eliot

        Don’t throw around the word genius like it’s a Frisbee… treat it like the manhole cover it warrants.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 12:13 pm L. Jon Hubbard

        If Ike Snopes were a real man, he were an idiot. But Faulker’s not an idiot (same with Gro Haila).

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:46 am Gro Haila

        Hari Aiyar, Vikram Pandit, Rajat Gupta, Anil Kumar, Raj Rajaratnam … the bindi Miss Cracker … ya’ll crackers’ ebullient newlyfound antisemitism.

        not particularly noteworthy or even topical.

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  36. on January 30, 2014 at 2:05 am blogster

    Some will recall heartiste’s de-construction of this fat bitches blog a month or so back. Well she’s at it again:

    http://www.dailylife.com.au/health-and-fitness/dl-wellbeing/fat-and-easy-are-not-synonyms-20140129-31mhk.html

    Apart from the vomit inducing picture, the hamster-logic is again hilarious and completely lacking self awareness. Spin hamster spin.

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  37. on January 30, 2014 at 3:12 am Picky Men | Truth and contradictions | Scoop.it

    […] The alt-internet is a strange land where you can find people who appear to have lived in a hermetically sealed Tyvek bubble since birth, and have escaped all interaction with reality.  […]

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  38. on January 30, 2014 at 3:16 am Daily Linkage – January 30, 2014 | The Dark Enlightenment

    […] Picky Men | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  39. on January 30, 2014 at 4:39 am Gro Haila

    Re:2%

    Gotta keep fieldniggers away from the pantry, no?

    What better way than a using a bunch of sycophantic selfimportant incorrigible knobslobbers for pantry duty?

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  40. on January 30, 2014 at 6:18 am Master Beta

    We men are much less choosy about sex partners, but much more choosy about relationship partners.
    This also applies to non-sexual relationships i.e. Friends.
    Women tend to have many more friends than men, and will even maintain friendships with people that they outwardly dislike (I believe they refer to this phenomenon as a “frenemy”). Men tend to be much more picky with picking friends.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 6:33 am Gro Haila

      Any (well almost) cunt can plop out a fetus, but how many men will stand with you when the heat is on?

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:12 am SFG

        Pretty much. A group of women can help each other gather nuts and berries and compete in subtle ways, but the need to have guys who will stand with you in a fight means men are much more selective about these things, and you see the respect heroes had for their companions in the old sagas, etc. .

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  41. on January 30, 2014 at 8:06 am Chris from Dublin

    As the Chateau has repeated ad nauseum, we live in difficult and perverse times and many of those who should prosper today are wondering why not. Men who are honest, decent and hard-working can still cling to a delusion of being that type of alpha provider who gets plenty of a better type of woman.

    Look around you. It’s not true.

    Time again, beta of the month and other similar related posts on the Chateau have remarked upon hard-working men who built family homes only to have the woman vanish in her thirties, set up with a generic biker – bad boy and both of them rape the provider-man for alimony. In particular I recall one man describing how he could “dissolve with rage”. Quite.

    So what’s a guy to do these days in order to prosper?

    Well stick to a general principle: turn the perverse system in on itself. An honest man has no moral duty to support a corrupt system, and has no moral duty to co-operate with anyone or any group of people who, whatever they might profess, are trying to harm him.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 8:28 am Gro Haila

      Or, as one zhyd put it (with dwindling but still big following in Europe, however booming current success in Eastasia and non-Maghreb Africa):
      “wise as serpents”.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 9:14 am SFG

        You forgot the USA…still heavily Christian in the Midwest and South.

        Come on, these religious books last for thousands of years because they work at binding people together and giving them a moral code. There are hundreds of other religions–Mithraism, the cult of Isis, alternate forms of Christianity like Gnosticism and the Cathars–that didn’t make it.

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    • on January 31, 2014 at 11:25 am Grim

      What if you found the red pill too late and already have two kids to protect, despite their mother?

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  42. on January 30, 2014 at 8:33 am Anonymous

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/n-s-woman-admits-she-strangled-daughter-to-keep-boyfriend-1.809803

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  43. on January 30, 2014 at 10:15 am Matthew King

    Tweet:

    Sexual counterrevolution proposals. online.wsj.com/news/articles/… @jamestaranto you may want to check out this proposal…

    Taranto doesn’t make the best case. Douthat does here:

    http://douthat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/social-liberalism-as-class-warfare/

    He restates Charles Murray’s Coming Apart thesis. The decline has less to do with alpha and beta males than it has to do with elites who encourage traditionalism in deed but not speech. Belmont vs. Fishtown. The SWPL promote — in true hebraic fashion, “what’s good for me is not good for thee” — the self-destructive ghetto fuckall among the lower and middle white classes while acting socially conservative (sexual continence, marriage, children, fatherhood, stability, tribal loyalty).

    The retarded denizens of the PUAsphere are the first dupes of this arrangement. They are a mouthpiece for downscale hedonism/promiscuity without consequence as the way out of the trailer park and into a jet-setting life of easy pussy, when in fact such incontinent behavior keeps them locked into a low-class ethos.

    Meantime, this site wants to have its cake and eat it too. It promotes a revanchist attitude in underclass male losers, to go and seize the pussy that is rightfully theirs, while denying any connection to hedonism’s strong affiliation with niggerizing a formerly intact, white, working-class culture. With one hand you complain about the societal effects of, say, a black man who fathers 29 children from 16 women; with the other hand you fuel the bitterness and celebrate the mentality that creates those kind of men in the white middle class (and occasionally pedestalize them as alpha!), pretending that an improper use of birth control is separates white sybaritic reprobates from their black counterparts, sufficiently to keep civilization together.

    In other words, your promotion of heedless, boundless amorality does the bidding of the very “Cathedral” you claim to be at war with.

    You cannot elide this contradiction forever. It’s okay for your views to mature with experience as the war progresses.

    Matt

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 11:11 am Tilikum

      most average dudes are just that brother. average.

      no matter how much it kills ya.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 11:54 am L. Jon Hubbard

      They have also set in place a government/taxation/family court system (that it’s getting hard to escape from in any corner of the world) that makes practising social conservatism and being productive for a middle class guy without unlimited means a mug’s game. So much as I agree with traditional patriarchal morals being the best way to set up society (and am actually lucky enough to have been able to live myself), if society is rigged against that, one’s two choices would appear to be tilting at the windmill or adjusting to the real world whilst doing what one can to change it.

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  44. on January 30, 2014 at 10:23 am ng85

    Great post. I personally have a low notch count, but I feel that my notches were quality as opposed to going for pure quantity. I realized this when I showed a friend a photo of a girl I had banged the week previous. This friend, who’s one of those people who never has anything nice to say, actually complimented me and told me he hated me because I only seem to get with girls who are “out of my league”.

    Yeah, I’ve been with some dogs in my time and swept those under the rug, but I do have to say that about half the girls I’ve been with have been exceptionally good looking. And I chalk that up to my pickiness. There’s this mindset in PUA that you just have to blanket approach every woman, and then if one of them bites just go for it. In my mind that’s the real-life version of an email from a 419 scammer. I’d usually just feel the vibe of the room out and only approach one or two girls if 1) They looked good, and 2) We were on the same wavelength. Even if it didn’t materialize into anything, I still didn’t waste my energy doing a “routine” 20 times in a night. After a while I said fuck it and just waited for girls to approach me, since it shows definite interest. If I dug her then I’d pursue.

    Recently my life got really hectic and I didn’t have time to go out and meet girls, so I “settled” for this girl I’m currently seeing. I dig her enough to fuck her, but I have to be honest and say that she’s definitely in the lower tier of girls I’ve been with. Had we met during the times when I was really picky I’d have probably passed her over without a second thought.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 11:09 am Tilikum

      topical.

      i was thinking this last night while i was out but i realized all at once that i get a crazy better quality during the day and at say, Starbucks than a club.

      better quality, more time for vetting.

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  45. on January 30, 2014 at 10:33 am Greg Eliot

    And for the record, I dispute this whole “2% of the population” canard.

    I know that many myself.

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 6:22 pm Anonymous

      This!!!!!

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 6:23 pm Anonymous

      This. It is clearly more like 40% of non blacks.

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      • on January 30, 2014 at 8:19 pm Greg Eliot

        Well, let’s not go crazy now.

        And while we’re on the subject… Alas, yet another jest fallen flat.

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  46. on January 30, 2014 at 11:37 am tspark156

    The Six Nations starts this weekend. It’s like the Superbowl but not gay.

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  47. on January 30, 2014 at 1:23 pm Just Saying

    “Men are discerning dogs. Yes, men like to hump, but they do so with an eye for quality”

    Yep – pretty much sums it up nicely. As to Russian women – you have to remember most of us are comparing them to American (or British) women. Compared to that lot they are all about 3 notches higher on average. Of course, I’ve been struck with Yellow Fever and find Chinese women to be more attractive overall. (I could be more specific as to provinces and such – since it is a huge country, but in general they age differently so it’s difficult for a Westerner to peg their age and tend to mistake them for 10+ years younger than they are.)

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    • on January 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm Hugh Mann

      It’s odd how cultures can change. 100 years ago no Han Chinese woman (except the Hakka who were looked down on) would sleep with a white man – even many Chinese brothels wouldn’t let them in.

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  48. on January 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm Dman

    Anyone ever notice that escorts in Vegas that are slim, toned and athletic never post that they’re having ‘specials’ or ‘discounts’, and overweight escorts always do? Their prices are notoriously lower too.

    Supply and demand at it’s finest.

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  49. on January 30, 2014 at 2:09 pm Nicole

    What confuses women is that there is a difference between what women think beauty is, and what men think beauty is. What women think is beautiful is connected to status, and what men think is beautiful is about femininity.

    In some cultures, they are closer, and in others farther apart. There is a “sweet spot” where female beauty can be promoted without negating the importance of behavioral fitness, but few “advanced” cultures reach it and stay there without extreme pressures (such as a shortage of marriageable men).

    Another problem is older women. Most of us don’t retain much beauty in the way of looking fertile and fun over 35, but people are living longer, so there are more years to pay the price of a wasted youth. So they would very much like to switch status markers for beauty in western society, and get lots of people to go along with this.

    I believe that, to some degree, the fake food problem is related to this since if someone isn’t eating naturally and living sanely, it is very difficult and costly to be pretty even over the age of 18. I point out to younger women the damage they’ve done to themselves with the wrong food and drinking too much and a bad attitude, that they currently try to cover with makeup and calorie focused dieting and other bandaids for the gaping wound in their psyches.

    When they take the advice, they find themselves needing to spend a whole lot less to improve and maintain their looks. I think the powers that be want to convince us that we need to have more money, and that having more money makes us more worthy mates.

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  50. on January 31, 2014 at 11:18 am Dr. Giggles

    What sperg says is not the same as sperg does. I knew an Indian sperg in college that shot down a fat girl offering him free sex on the spot. She had found out he was a virgin and wanted to take his virginity. He refused. Despite his choosiness, he would oneitis himself regularly with the cutest girls that joined our social circle. Spergs can exasperate and throw you off just like women. They even have similar sized hamsters.

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