Out of their sight but not my earshot, I overheard the following conversation between two late 20s-early 30s SWPL girls giggling about a man one of the girls recently dated.
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“Did you check him out?”
“I googled him… got his accounts… {unintelligible}”
[ed: silly me, thinking her question meant to ask if she looked at him before meeting.]
“His accounts?”
“Yeah, you know. Facebook, LinkedIn…Instagram… thank god he didn’t have a Tumblr, as far as I could tell.”
“You should probably check those cheater sites too. You know the ones?”
“I did! I tried those… lol… but there aren’t enough women participating yet.”
“So what did you find?”
“Oh wow, a lot of douchy pictures of him at parties with skanks.”
“Gross.”
“But at least he doesn’t have love children… {unintelligible}.”
“Right!”
“Unless he’s hiding them, but I feel like it would be tough to hide secret kids.”
“I dunno, I dated this guy once who had a son, and I didn’t find out until three months later.”
“Except for the stupid photos…oh yeah, and the creepy military history stuff he collects… he seemed all right.”
“Did you go out with him?”
“Yeah. But he said something weird, which makes me wonder.”
“What?”
“He said I’d make a good event planner for bachelorette parties.”
“What does that even mean?”
“I asked him. He said it was my upbeat vibe, or whatever. He said I had the personality to manage a lot of high maintenance girls. Can you believe that!”
“Oookay.”
“But the thing is, I was at a bachelorette party recently. For my friend. He must have saw the pictures on Facebook. I was wondering the whole time if he was checking out my friends. Like, if we didn’t work out, he’d call one of them up?”
“lol… that’s crazy creeper.”
“Eh…. it’s not a huuuge deal.”
“I guess you didn’t see him again.”
“No, we’ve been on three dates. He’s out there, but kind of funny. Thank god he hasn’t talked about any military stuff.”
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Folks, you simply cannot make up the utter lack of awareness and pathological solipsism exhibited by today’s modern Western woman. It’s like if you threw a woman into solitary confinement, she would claim the world was banging on the cage door to get in and join her.
The lesson, as if it needed to be stated, is that you can expertly game the post-modern dating market by seeding the online world with self-glorifying disinformation. That is, if you choose to have an online presence. Women may cast a suspicious eye at massive online DHVs, but the power of social proof to redound to a man’s benefit is not a trivial thing; if asked, she’ll express disbelief in your sexyman antics but a part of her inner world will want to believe.
Also, don’t fear the douche. You can be all the douche you wanna be, skanks draped over your arms with a wall of duckbill mouths trumpeting your greatness, and women will come running to discover the “good man” underneath. But if you show the good man right away you’ll get a pat on the shoulder and a bored look.
Your other option is zero net presence. ZNP is the safe alternative, and it will certainly stoke curiosity in women in this day and age of pajama-concocted character story lines uploaded to social media megacorp spy machines. But it will also invite more questions than you may be comfortable batting away. If you prefer to go more with the cultural flow, you’ll have to manage your online presence. Welcome to the age of endless self marketing.
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> “Also, don’t fear the douche. You can be all the douche you wanna be, skanks draped over your arms with a wall of duckbill mouths trumpeting your greatness, and women will come running to discover the “good man” underneath. But if you show the good man right away you’ll get a pat on the shoulder and a bored look.”
Does a More Equal Marriage Mean Less Sex?
LORI GOTTLIEB
FEB. 6, 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html
NYT Bombshell: Women Prefer Manly Men
Bethany Mandel
February 7, 2014
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/02/07/nyt-bombshell-women-prefer-manly-men/
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I think this happened in Philly.
Use a real first name fake last name. Create a fake Facebook account with fake job and background. Friend a bunch of randoms. (You’d be surprised how many dummies will accept your friend request.)
Never tell them any details about you that could lead them to you and they can’t come over to your place because you’re having the floors done.
All calls must go through Google voice so they can’t trace you if they think the baby is yours.
For some of these girls they REQUIRE that you’re online so they can stalk you before they’ll meet you. In SWPLland everyone is guilty of creep before proven alpha.
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Makes sense when creeps are the vast majority.
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“He must have _saw_ the pictures on Facebook.”
Yep, the story’s legit.
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Hilarious. I was going to post essentially the same thing.
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My favorite part had to be, after google stalking his online accounts, it was called creepy that he may have done that. LOL Chicks.
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Yep. That’s my main takeaway too. This is what were up against dudes. I’m MGTOW now. Fuck it.
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i’ve had them go as far as interacting with me on blog comments, pretend to have ‘run across’ an article i commented on and make some kind of comment about how she agrees with an idea she thinks i agree with, etc. the tell is how often women talk about ‘creepers’. projection. they are far beyond what men have the patience for
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They hardly ever even realize it. That kind of behavior comes naturally to them. Information gathering is very important to women, the best weapon they have. It’s also why they love (celebrity) gossip.
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Why would you fold before such a weak adversary?
Who cares if this is “what we’re up against”. Get that pussy wet and all of the chatter to her friends will mean exactly nothing to her.
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> “Why would you fold before such a weak adversary?”
It’s similar to the “Anti-Natalism” shit on another recent thread.
I’m beginning to think that it’s some sort of an intentional Frankfurt School/Axelrod/Mossad psychological warfare operation to demoralize the Shkotzim and get them to stop making children:
How Obama Is Using the Science of Change
By Michael Grunwald
Thursday, Apr. 02, 2009
http://iepecdg.com.br/uploads/artigos/090402_grunwald_behaviorial_obama.pdf
“The existence of this behavioral dream team — which also included best-selling authors Dan Ariely of MIT (Predictably Irrational) and Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein of the University of Chicago (Nudge) as well as Nobel laureate Daniel Kahneman of Princeton — has never been publicly disclosed, even though its members gave Obama white papers on messaging, fundraising and rumor control as well as voter mobilization…”
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It’s similar to the “Anti-Natalism” shit on another recent thread.
Not to mention the rampant marriage-strike attitude which annoys the h*ll out of me.
If we want the race to continue, and don’t want lots of single moms around, marriage is kind of essential.
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I got married when I was 27. To a 25 year old. Six years later got divorce raped.
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So learn Game.
And if you’re still terrified about divorce rape, then have your kids out of wedlock with your girlfriend.
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I got married when I was 27. To a 25 year old. Six years later got divorce raped.
No wonder you’re so… grim.
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Zombie, you’re out to lunch here, sorry. Divorce rape has nothing to do with divorce, per-se, but getting screwed supporting kids you never get to see for years and years. Hint for you: this has nothing to do with marriage. If you think you don’t have to support your illegitimate children, you are grossly ignorant.
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Marriage is essential, but you don’t need the state involved to be married.
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I think that’s the crux. A lot of us (myself included) don’t particularly care about the future of the race. Can’t blame it all on you know who.
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> “supporting kids you never get to see”
*cough* GAME *cough*
Learn Game and the kids will never leave you.
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> “A lot of us (myself included) don’t particularly care about the future of the race.”
Well fuck you too.
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Zombie Shane
> “A lot of us (myself included) don’t particularly care about the future of the race.”
Well fuck you too.
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Yeah, fuck you from me too too.
My major problem is finding a suitable opponent. I can’t fight exhibitions and do charity events all the time?
And now you say no more white people?
WTF!
Ever since Greg Eliot announced his retirement, erybody duckin me and fightin these set ups. Somethins gotta be done cause I am ranked #1 in the world;
you guys got your chance,
now gimme mine.
Im not going away Balboa.
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How does game ‘keep kids from leaving you’? If they are young enough (mid teens), their feelings mean nothing to family court judges, the mom is in charge. Unless you are talking about gaming the mom, in which case being married or not is irrelevant. Try to be somewhat consistent, okay?
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“It’s similar to the “Anti-Natalism” shit on another recent thread.”
I never considered that but now that you mention it… intuitively there could be something wrong with some of those fucks at another level, i. e., they’re “insincere nihilists”. I figure ridiculing them is the way to go whether they’re “cognitive infiltrators” or not.
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@grim.
You sound like a bitter pussy. You’re bitching because you can’t step to a little GIRL in her early 20s and pull her lol. You have a confidence issue related to your divorce and your ability to draw boundaries that protect yourself and still be attractive to women. And so now you take it out on women. Yesterday it was how do I get the 20 year olds, today it’s I hate women. You’re reacting, not being proactive. Once you accept your weakness you can start getting stronger. But right now you’re a weak dude.
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Thank Lord for all these slutskies.
Transfer of wealth from men to women and state means it’d be so much harder to pay for their orifices. Luckily, they’re all giving it up for free.
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They know they suck. That doesn’t mean they don’t want a man who is much better than they are if they can get him.
No reason to be mad about it. Once you know their strategy, you do yours. All advantage to the second mover in this game.
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Also — and this is important and somewhat unintuitive in terms of game theory — many many girls are following the SAME strategy. The chicks in OP could have any level of SMV, from low to high. So a bit of time spent on appropriate presentation will yield vast benefits. Probably from females from 1 up to 10, they all want the same thing.
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ZERO ability to engage in slag reflection. ZERO.
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That’s self reflection. Damn iPhone.
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intuitive text
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The iPhones make them even better at self-reflection! Haven’t you ever seen one fixing her hair and makeup using the camera instead of a mirror?
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You mean pajama boy isn’t real?
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If men judged women the same way they judge men, human beings would go extinct.
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My favorite: complaining about non-existing “double standards” in the workplace … but demanding that women get to compete separately in every sport so they also can win medals and get money, because they know they wouldn’t stand a chance if they had to compete with men in sports. When did feminists ever complain about sex segregation in sports? They don’t because their real goal is not “an equal playing field” but “as much for women as possible, except for conservative women”. But billions of women are incapable of seeing the “double standard” of demanding sex mixing everywhere except in sports.
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They see it. They like it. What’s not to like, they get more, and men sit there spinning male hamsters complaining about it.
An important lesson from MGTOW is don’t bother trying to change things that are too difficult (or impossible) to change. Adapt strategically.
I don’t think this means giving up on women. There are lots of opportunities to interact with women, act masculine and mildly abusive with them, and reap the benefits, and have fun being amazed how effective it is. Just don’t be desperate for sex right away, I mean it may happen, but if you’re being driven by your dick, you won’t have any fun nor do it right.
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This
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Put another way: If women didn’t fuck, there’d be a bounty on ’em.
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Hahaha I like that one.
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Men and women shouldn’t be judged the same because they are not the same. To ask women to be like men is making one of the same mistakes feminists do.
Accept that women don’t give two shits about morality when it comes to getting the best DNA and resources we can, the same as you don’t give two shits about it when it comes to getting the hottest tail that you can, because this is how Nature keeps humanity from fail. If that ever changes, we will die out.
What some people perceive as the best or the best they can get is going to vary, and exceptions exist in small numbers, but basically this is how things work, and people need to make their peace with that.
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No problem here with unequal responsibilities so long as the rights are reciprocally unequal.
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The responsibilities are equally valuable even though they are not the same, and the rights are equally important even though they’re not the same…in a civil society anyhow.
People need to decide if they want a civil society or not. If they do, then the differences between men and women have to be taken into account. There is a sweet spot somewhere between anarchy and absolute denial of Nature that must be minded.
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But you see, it’s no longer common, if it ever was, to drag the hottest tail off and bust your nut in her whenever she walks by. So we do give two shits.
If we hanged women for their lack of morals regarding best DNA, or sent them to jail to be ass raped, beaten, stabbed, perhaps murdered for their heinous sexual crimes, well, even without them having any moral compunctions, they too might think twice. But obviously we don’t.
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“Accept that women don’t give two shits about morality when it comes to getting the best DNA and resources we can…”
Good advice. This is women’s nature. Accept and exploit.
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That’s my motto, and I won’t screw over another man in the process if I can help it.
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girls creep worse than any man but nobody calls em out like that
military stuff, god forbid you have a hobby.
If you’re a even decently successful guy, ie middle class,, not socially retarded and not dealing with some crippling addiction….you’re not a “creep.”
SWPL C U N T S
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Amen, bro. That word creep/creeper gets thrown around too easily. Just gotta learn to ignore those comments because reacting to it digs yourself a hole.
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CH wrote on this earlier – ‘creep’ is the standard word used to describe/disempower betas. I think the female equivalent is ‘ugly.’
It’s near-impossible to use the word ‘ugly’ in retort to ‘creeper’ or any other rejection by a woman without sounding butthurt. Much better responses have been delineated in writings past.
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Use the word ‘creeper’ or ‘creepy’ before she does. It takes the wind out of their sails.
Use any excuse to call her creepy in a joking way. It flips the script and sets you up as in the know.
‘Oh you like donuts? I knew you were creepy. I bet you eat donuts when you’re stalking people on Facebook.’
Doesn’t have to make sense, you’re talking to a woman. And aspies, delivery matters.
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> “Use the word ‘creeper’ or ‘creepy’ before she does. It takes the wind out of their sails.”
Agree and Amplify.
SHE: “OMFG you’re like so creepy.”
YOU: “Creepy? Honey, you ain’t seen nothing yet! Wait’ll I secretly tape me and you and your BFF in that threesome we’re gonna have and then I upload that shit to xhamster.”
SHE: “In your dreams.”
YOU: “And I ain’t even taught you about the double dildo yet. Gotta go. TTYL.”
SHE: “Wait, don’t leave yet.”
YOU: “I thought you said I was creepy.”
SHE: “Well you are creepy.”
YOU: “But it feels so good, don’t it, baby?”
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That actually works. I can’t tell if you’re kidding, but if delivered right the conversation will sound exactly like that.
I don’t know where that clip is from but the ending is awesome. That grin.
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pulsotic: it’s from Wild At Heart (1990).
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> “I can’t tell if you’re kidding”
Totally serious.
She gets “creepy”, you get CREEPIER.
She gets “nasty”, you get NASTIER.
She gets “shit-testy”, you get SHIT-TESTIER.
> “if delivered right”
She is constantly testing you for weakness.
If she can scare you off with nothing more than mere words, then the Sabre Toothed Tiger damn sure can scare you off with his growl, which means that, after you have abandoned them in an act of supreme cowardice, she and the kids will become the Sabre Toothed Tiger’s next dinner.
Do NOT lose your confidence at the last second.
Keep pushing and pushing and pushing.
> “it’s from Wild At Heart (1990)”
When I first saw that movie, as a kid, I was like, “Whoa, Nicholas Cage’s character is such a decent guy and he has such a good heart and he even sings like Elvis, whereas Willem Dafoe’s character is so filthy and disgusting and low rent and he even has horrible teeth – how could she ever dream of cheating on Nicholas Cage’s character with Willem Dafoe’s character? It doesn’t make any sense at all!!!”
But now I know.
Now I know what women want.
What women are weak for.
What women will fall for.
And that line which Dafoe’s character delivers, about how she jumped back, but NOT TOO QUICKLY – that is so true.
The minute that a chick hesitates like that, you know the pussy is in the bag already.
Just so long as you don’t lose your confidence at the last second.
Keep pushing.
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Calling them creepy first is definitely the best way. But if one sneaks one in on me first, I pull a Princess Bride, completely deadpan: “You keep using that word, creepy. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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I do not think it means what you think it means.
what exactly are you implying and what message is she supposed to take away from that?
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Why are you worried about sounding butthurt?
Who cares if you don’t like the girl.
That’s what outcome independence is fellas.
Sounds like you’re more worried about feeling butthurt.
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Darkhorse, I like your posts. Name some forums you’ve posted at, you sound familiar.
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I only post here.
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her: “OMG you’re so creepy!”
you:”Yeah, I know. And you’re ugly. Match made in heaven. [wink]”
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It’s just a phase we’re in. Don’t forget that the stuff white people in NY liked about 120 years ago was boxing women around the place or spitting on them if they found them out at night beyond a certain hour.
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The Irish are only just barely white.
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Red hair, blue eyes, you should be so barely white.
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You might be missing the joke.
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theres nothing funny about getting hung from a tree.
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You have no sense of humor. Dude crapping himself is always funny. Cf. Bob and Jack Shaftoe’s first job.
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Don’t think this conversation accurately reflects all aspects of what this girl is thinking. She is not going to confide her vagina tingles to her friend, who could even be a potential competitor. It’s just a lens. She’s obviously got the tingles, and the military stuff doesn’t hurt and may even help.
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The NSA has competition: women.
One would think that amazing lack of self-criticism (first talking about spying on the guy online, then saying he is “creepy” for possibly having seen her picture from a party in Facebook) would be an exaggerated story, but I have seen it all too often. Usually when women talk about politics, for example when they get holier-than-thou in opposition to the death penalty, but always make up excuses for groups or parties on “their” side when they kill. Or when they talk about greed, acceptable for some groups but not for others. And so on. And plenty of times in ordinary life, especially young twenty-somethings: there is no behavior they can’t excuse when committed by people they like for social reasons. Analytical side of brain – off, emotional side – on.
However, there are plenty of women who are not like that, or at least less like that and possible to affect with reason. I have dated many of them. I guess you need an eye to finding them. It’s a good ability to have, you get a lot less frustrated with the female sex this way. For one thing, you should date women who study real sciences, like engineering, biology, chemistry and medicine. And don’t say that women are ugly because they study this: they tend to be more attractive than the average woman. This is logical, since science shows that attractive people have a higher average IQ – good genes are good genes.
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You raise a provocative point about dating women who study hard sciences.
I find the sweet spot is when the most attractive of that group apply that knowledge to a more feminine or nurturing field. Things like Nursing, Dietetics, Exercise Science, Kinesiology, Public Heath, or teaching Math & Science at the high school level. Plus, those majors will consist mostly of other girls as classmates.
A downside to them majoring in CS, Engineering, Math, or hard sciences is they are surrounded by a ratio of like 10 guys for every girl, so they can pick up too many orbiters and otherwise inflate their worth. Girls striving to be Chief of Surgery some day are usually insufferable, self-centered, and step below law shrews, though.
If you value the occasional conversation about genetics, dinosaurs, the constellations, or evolution, it can be refreshing.
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A downside to them majoring in CS, Engineering, Math, or hard sciences is they are surrounded by a ratio of like 10 guys for every girl, so they can pick up too many orbiters and otherwise inflate their worth.
Heh, heh… picture Flo, the insurance spokesgirl, at a Star Trek convention.
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We were talking about this on another recent thread:
{STEM Dad} X {STEM Mom}
is probably gonna greatly increase the chances of the kids ending up on the wrong end of the Autism/Asperger’s/ADHD spectrum.
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“{STEM Dad} X {STEM Mom}
is probably gonna greatly increase the chances of the kids ending up on the wrong end of the Autism/Asperger’s/ADHD spectrum.”
Evidence, please.
Anyhow, if she had the logical, rational, usually-reserved-for-the-Y-chromosome type genes that increase the chances of austral spectrum disorders, especially if paired with a STEM spouse, then she’s going to have those genes no matter what. She could study nursing instead of math & still have an aspie kid. The only non-genetic way her college major could affect her offspring in such a way is if her studies postponed her childbearing and she conceived them with older eggs.
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If she really had the sort of genes to do engineering, she probably would not have done nursing. 40 years ago sure, but these days the girls are competitive, and they’d rather compete with men who will largely white-knight for her, than with other women who will only do negative things to her.
So I think you could reliably avoid this “problem” by dating nursing or education students.
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A downside to them majoring in CS, Engineering, Math, or hard sciences is they are surrounded by a ratio of like 10 guys for every girl, so they can pick up too many orbiters and otherwise inflate their worth.
Co-signed. Gentlemen, Anon speaks the truth right here. A few personal experiences have led me to the same conclusion. To elaborate on and clarify this tendency: I’ve observed that STEM fields tend to select for workers who are more psychologically masculine (logical, aggressive, future/legacy-oriented) to begin with, ergo most girls who are drawn to this sort of study are effectively damaged goods from day one for those of us who are looking to “live more alpha” and save Western Civilization in the process. Not all of these chicks, but most.
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Political science is the same way. There were a lot of hard charging, masculine women, and the few feminine ones there seemed to be along more for the men (plus it’s an easy major). Every girl, even the quite masculine ones, had a ton of beta orbiters. 5’s acted like they were 9’s. I think that club was one reason I find it far easier and more natural to talk to beautiful women than ugly or plain women. The ugly/plain women in that club were arrogant and snarky.
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You’re wrong.
Most women in hard sciences are fugly. What girl, who can get away with murder due to her looks, is going to spend 8 hours a day burying her nose in a book?
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ding ding ding we’ve got a winner. i took those classes and holy fuck those girls would have to be the last ones on earth before anything happened. even then i dunno
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I cured my daughter of the STEM fugs by explaining to her what the term “ratched” means, and telling her that she looks like a stereotype, and that nobody will view her as empowered for looking frumpy, just ratched.
I don’t know how someone would do this with someone of a different ethnicity.
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Lol I’d love to be a wallflower in your home for a day. Holy sh~t the convos are probably as weird as Thwack’s non-sequiturs.
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They are probably pretty weird. We’re probably some of the few non Christian people in the west who use the saying, “Your future husband thanks you,” as praise for exercising or days of successful abstinence from sugar or not accepting the flirtations of a no-account dimwit.
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What girl, who can get away with murder due to her looks, is going to spend 8 hours a day burying her nose in a book?
Well, that’s just it – a girl who can get away with the academic equivalent of murder doesn’t have to bury her nose in a book. But the point made in your first sentence stands.
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Question: Are there a set of fields-of-study/employment that concentrate more shi*-personalitied women than others?
Ex: I’ve heard one opinion the worst chicks go for Photography. -But he didn’t explain his rationale/data.
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Depends on what you want from the woman. Feminine jobs for women where they’re working with other women and few men are good for LTRs. Masculine jobs where women are competing with men is bad for LTRs.
You can have success with girls in the arts if you know how they work. A photographer has heard all the same shitty game a hundred times so when your friend says he likes her pictures she’s bored and he gets blown out.
Tell a photographer girl that it’s refreshing to talk to her because us creative people think differently and outsiders to the arts can never understand us. ‘I find that no matter where I go, if I find another artist, we instantly like each other. Even if you don’t like their work because it isn’t your style you can still connect deeply with this person, like you’ve known them your whole life because we see things in a different way, like we live in another world that they will never truly understand.’
Point to self and away and to you and her at the appropriate times. They eat it up.
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Do you provide temporary beta-comfort by admitting to a regular job, or is that unnecessary? Otherwise I wouldn’t know how to chat about life as a starving artist, something I’ve never done and never considered doing.
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All you gotta do is make them think that you’re an artist of any sort. On your fake Facebook should be a ton of artwork that ‘you’ did. Just enough so you can ‘connect’.
Btw, don’t mistake provider status for comfort. Those are two different things.
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Shit personalities: HR, teaching, law. Anything that gives them undue power.
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> Shit personalities: HR, teaching, law. Anything that gives them undue power.
MANAGEMENT!
I FUCKING HATE having a female boss. I’ve had several. Bitches fuck off and leave me alone to work, I can’t get anything done with you hovering and treating me like a child, because the urge to strangle you is so overpowering right now.
We have one female employee where I work now, and one fag. Both of them are smart enough not to make waves. It’s pretty awesome, really.
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Good ones.
-Was thinking a little closer to college-majors, but I hear that on Management. Had some pretty atrocious ppl in those areas, even supervisors.
@et. al.: Certainly an outlier, but I do know one Biochemist who is sweet and cute as a button. -She is pre-wall, though so we’ll see.
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Here in NYC I have to say magazine writers are the worst lot. The higher end the mag the more dignified she thinks she is, which we all know is a load of shit. They tend to wear a lot of black, lean towards trendy over stylish, and express a shallow interest / knowledge of exotic goods and services (smokes shitty unknown polish cigarettes, drinks “the best” coffee made from a space age aero press, etc…) Regardless of gender most vain trendy liars can have their entire persona destroyed by a few well placed questions as to their motivations for what they do or why they use x over y.
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the level at which a female has to set aside her femininity to study hard sciences competently makes her….a MAN BABY!
they are all yours honey.
i swear you must be a hardover Chinese broad…
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It doesn’t do that to women in cultures where the family supports having a husband and kids on time while studying. It takes the grandparents being willing to babysit and shell out some financial backup while the parents study. It also helps if she marries a stable older man whose family is also supportive.
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Back when I went to engineering school in the stone age (but we did have the Tacoma Narrows oscillation-to-death video to watch) they were horribly ugly. Undate-able — but they did get dates from guys much better looking than I was. I never understood this, but then I basically became a monk during engineering school.
But now they’ve improved a lot.
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Nope. When I started in 1999 half the freshman chicks may as well have been men. Out of the other half, the 18 year old me would still need to be half wasted to think about touching. That’s 18 year old, fuck anything with a hole that doesn’t blow a rape whistle, me. The remaining 25% quickly acquired more orbiters than jupiter and gained the weight to match.
I work with one female “engineer” that isn’t terrible to look at but she’s ditzy as hell. I’d wonder how she made it through a state engineering school if she wasn’t mexican.
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I’ve never worked with a good female engineer, but my favorite engineering boss was female. She didn’t take shit from the female engineer on our team, this girl was constantly in trouble because, well, she sucked and the boss (a married woman who was actually cuter than she was) wasn’t white knighting for her. For once we weren’t expected to pull the weight for various affirmative action cases around us.
Never worked with a hispanic female engineer. Hard to imagine that actually. Very hard.
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“For one thing, you should date women who study real sciences, like engineering, biology, chemistry and medicine. And don’t say that women are ugly because they study this”
My anecdotal experience is the opposite. Women who study hard sciences have been of the more unattractive variety. I’ve seen exceptions of course.
I’d love to see the study that demonstrates IQ correlates to physical beauty because that hasn’t been my experience at all (although I never asked these people what their IQ’s were). You tend to pick up on people who are smarter than the average bear pretty easily after conversation or coming across some other demonstrable form of competency.
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I’d be incredibly suspicious of a guy with zero net presence.
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i think you mean an unattractive guy with no web presence. works awesome.
and before u nawalt, remember, when you stand girls on their heads you all look like sisters 😛
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No they don’t, but you can’t tell what one end looks like from the other.
Twin hypothesis: sisters look alike from the bottom end too. Haven’t tested this one myself.
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Of course you would. It creates mystery.
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Lol. What is creates is the suspicion that the guy is giving me a fake name because he’s married or a sex offender.
AWALT away, but (1) it’s happened to me; (2) it was one of those two things; and (3) I was definitely unimpressed by the “mystery”.
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Women are really creepy.
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I warned you not to meet up with Gas Buttox… but you jes’ couldn’t help yourself, could you?
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lolol
Amy knows. Almost everyone has a digital footprint these days. If there is nothing whatsoever, it ought to be cause for pause.
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Some people aspire to a morality far higher than the suspicious girl could ever comprehend, being so mired in the narcissistic world of online persona. And that aspiration possibly necessitates a social media embargo. So as Cad and Bounder so eloquently put below, it’s merely a case of the whore projecting her insecurities and vices onto someone who has the courage not to go with the herd.
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Or they work in high finance, security, intelligence etc. Lots of places prohibit social media for opsec reasons.
Couple of years ago, a HS buddy and I were trying to figure out why several classmates had virtually dropped off the interwebz radar despite being the type that should go places. Dug a little deeper with archive.org and came to a simple conclusion: no facebook= spook and/or globalist buttehxter.
So those unstalkable dudes are either creeps or high-paid and interesting. oooo dilema!
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I love this sort of fascist-friendly thinking. Either you are a part of the machine, or you are not to be trusted.
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I wasn’t referring to social media. I mean any record of existence whatsoever. I would advise women that this is a “next” immediately situation. If you have no mutual acquaintances who can corroborate who the person you’re seeing is, if there is no third party reference, whether that be electronic or personal, the only reason is to make a vanishing act possible. People who want real relationships don’t need to play these games. Its as simple as that.
On the other side of the coin, men reject women online who don’t post pictures. Whether its because the women are guarding their image for career or modesty reasons doesn’t matter. Men will assume women are fat or ugly. Same issue. Nobody wins a game from the sidelines.
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Amy knows. Almost everyone has a digital footprint these days. If there is nothing whatsoever, it ought to be cause for pause.
I’ve had it work in my favor, especially no facebook.
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You’re a longtime manosphere reader so u know women are famous for giving each other horrible advice, right?
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Kate is right. I don’t mean zero social media presence, I mean NO net presence whatsoever.
Kate is a smart chick. She can give me advice anytime.
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Absolutely, but longtime readers of the manosphere are some kind of hybrid, inclining that way to begin with and then reinforced by the ideology. While I try to block it out, I still find myself stupefied and appalled by some of the thoughts and behaviors of Feminist Pimp Mothers who would rather see their daughters rich men’s whores than serving honest men who care enough about them not to make them so. Their inability to recognize that their desire to “play work” in the sixties has not only brought incredible hardship to their daughters, but has actually overturned the entire system is pretty disturbing. They got to “have it all,” while my generation of women had to pay the price with our innocence just so we can, if we are lucky, re-establish it for our children. One of the things we missed out on in this devaluation of men was a chance to have meaningful and close relationships with our fathers. No matter how much they want it to be so, Smothers are not enough to make up that gap. From anyone who understands this, I might be willing to take advice 🙂
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Wrong Kate.
That’s the paranoid world women want to draw us into. There was no “net” 30 years ago that the public knew about and women had just as good (or bad, depending on your view) track record with men then as now.
The issue is that women cannot STAND that they cannot snoop on every single salacious detail about a guy online in order to chat about him with her friends. They cover it up with “but but but…PREDATOR RAPE!”, but it’s just a cover up. More women are probably experiencing the Strangers With Benefits situation now with places like Craigslist and other stalker hangouts then they were ever able to experience back before the web (Strangers with Benefits = Rape, for those slow on the uptake).
Context is key. An active guy out DOING THINGS in real life has little time or patience to sit on Twitter sending inane, narcissistic updates about the status of his cat vomiting on his new rug.
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No one is disputing that men of value don’t tweet like parakeets, Burninator.
But the fact is, Amy dated someone who was hiding that he was a listed sex offender and you can reference commenter Troubadour’s blog to see he is a married man looking to cheat. No third party source is a very real concern for women who object to dating someone else’s husband. How do you think women find out about game in the first place? Was it because men were all honest and up front about who they were? Not exactly.
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Again, the mystery. It draws you in. Sets your gerbil a-spinning.
It’s quite easy to look up someone’s past. Check the county courthouse database, for starters.
That’s how two different girlfriends (circa 2006-2007) discovered my criminal record.
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For what it is worth,
I’d be curious to know if women are more turned on when they learn a man has a criminal record.
I came really close to ending up with one because a crazy but damn hot woman who was worried I would tell everyone she was unfaithful to me went to the police – hours after I broke up with her – and told a bunch of lies ( that I was abusive, that I kept her from leaving the premises, that I wanted to kill her etc etc )
I was questioned by the police, I had to go to court, it cost me thousands of dollars in lawyer fees and to be honest it made me very scared that the whole justice system instantly believes whatever crazy stuff any crazy woman says ( it made me even more anti-feminist than I was before, those bitches now have the power to destroy careers, reputations and lives with only a few lies told with a few tears… ), and it even made me depressed for a while, but in the end I was acquitted of all charges.
I do not have a criminal record.
Since a lot of women feel gina tingles for bad boys and psychos, I wonder if having a criminal record makes the man seem like an even more interesting “forbidden fruit”
I would think for many women it does.
In the months before going to court when I was worried the judge would believe the lies of that crazy woman and I would end up with a criminal record, while I was discouraged and even depressed ( for a whole year that Damocles sword was above my neck, her accusations were Jan 1 2013, I was in court Jan 8 of this year ), at some point I began trying to find the positive in all that, and I began wondering if a criminal record would not make me more appealing to women.
Like a battle scar it would have probably made me more alpha in the eyes of most women.
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and told a bunch of lies ( that I was abusive, that I kept her from leaving the premises, that I wanted to kill her etc etc )
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you need to contact your cousins who done some serious prison time.
They know people both in and out the joint who can “solve problems” for you. You would be surprised at the kinds of “talent” out there.
Just sayin.
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Sounds like he was a sex offender. You’d have fonder thoughts if he was married on the side (too many women) rather than a convicted sex offender (the idiot got caught – fail!)
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women are such retards.
notice how guys don’t act like this.
BRO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME SHE DOESN’T HAVE FACEBOOK, TWITTER, AND INSTAGRAM?! WHAT’S WRONG WITH HER?!
women are fucking sheep.
but then again, their laundry list of demands get thrown out the minute the intense creepy badboy walks in and gets their panties wet.
women have no fucking clue what they want, they are slaves to their vaginas.
no respect for women, ever..
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Maybe a Facebook account, but don’t post or comment too much. Just enough presence, that she can see you know other women, and get her jealous.
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Exactly. You want hot girls to tag you in photos with them, which will show up on your FB page. No need to post much if anything yourself.
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these bitches will claw out their mother’s eyes to fuck a charming sociopath but their standard dating practice is to demand photos, birth certificates, social security numbers, hair samples and blood samples so they know they’re dating someone “reputable”.
LOL STFU
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If you’re in my vicinity you don’t need electronic vapor to prove my worth to you Amy, you’ll see the girls actively hanging on me or trying to. If you need an electronic validation to make you feel comfortable then you’re clearly in the wrong place and asking that I adapt to your demands. Ain’t gonna happen. I am who I am, you’re either in the game with me or you’re not. If that’s uncomfortable then retreat back to the posers and betas who are doing everything possible to make themselves conform to your unrealistic demands. I’m sure they’ll relish your company.
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I also need some advice about something, I know Spanish and English, am I doing the right thing learning Portuguese and Korean? or there are better languages of the future such as Mandarin, Russian, French ,eh?
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The second. This is not difficult. Why speak a fringe language when you could speak a major one?
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Seconded.
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I’d say really master one or two languages, rather than be semi fluent in a lot of them.
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Portuguese and Korean are just perfect 🙂 who do not t like Brazilian Telenovelas and Korean Dramas? I am a big fan of Dae Jang Geum and Avenida Brasil 😉
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Learn German and Russian. Languages of the future.
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Chinese and Russian… FTFY
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what kind of global influences have those languages? the other 2 are also popular in the music industry, one Brazilian man ( Michel Telo) and one Korean (Psy) already are among the most watched on Youtube.
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I suspect the default condition with most young girls these days is that they think a guy DOES have a NP, but he is hiding it for some reason. In other words he is on FB and the like, but he doesn’t want me to see it because he is married or has a gf etc. Starting a relation by her assuming you are a liar, isn’t usually a good step.
This sort of assumption (no ZNP=liar) is especially resonant with women, because their solipsism means they project that men are cultivating an online profile in the way that they do. In other words, use FB as a kind of cultivated PR machine in order to push their value up to the outside world at every possible opportunity.
On the flip side rt some point, somewhere, some women, some how, will realise that men don’t give a shit about how many likes they got for their pic in a nightclub/birthday party/holiday/cute video of a dog on FB, because none of it will make them slimmer, more feminine, younger, or have nicer tits. You know, the stuff we actually care about.
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But THEY care about the stuff you CAN represent on FB. It can do you much more good than they do.
Besides, if they’re assuming you are cheating in some way (e.g. misrepresenting yourself via net marketing) it must be optimal strategy to do exactly that. Otherwise they’ll read the truthful information you do post, discount THAT, and you’ve just DLV’d as far as they are concerned.
It’s a game. It has rules. We are learning the rules. Once we know those, we just play with a good strategy, and enjoy.
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Yep as a woman today you would. You expect us to be as frivolous as you. There are legit reasons to not be on facebook etc
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“Zero Net Presence” sounds like you’re aiming to balance your positive and negative presence at zero, like Zero Net Energy balances output and intake in your efficient green home. Like Zero Sum Game.
Zero Sum Game should like totally be the name of a manosphere band.
[CH: I vote for The Exclusionists. Every girl crazy bout a VIP man.]
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How about Zero/Some Game 🙂 Kidding!!! I’m kidding!!!
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Keep it up and Zombie Shane will put a pun in your oven.
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HAHAHAHA! That would be ill bred!
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n/a b znp baby
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Easy to deflect. Just tell the girl you’ve been in prison for most of your life.
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Yes, net presence is vital — obviously we need to filter out the single moms, crazies and divorcers. For the more serious among us, it would be great to have a social network documenting notch counts and other points of interest.
In the meantime, it’s a red flag if my date has no juicy spring break pics.
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I have ZNP as far as I know. My parents unintentionally named me after a famous man which doubtless throws snoops off my digital trail.
Perhaps it might be advantageous to name any future kids I sire after someone famous.
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Tough break, Adolf. 😦
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Saddam.
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I’d be sad too 😦
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Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud
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John Singleton Mosby, Commander of the 1st Partisan Rangers I presume?
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Jeff Dahmer?
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A for effort. Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, but you can call me Pluv.
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You’re whats-his-name – the guy who invented the piano key necktie?
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Why do you guys give girls your slave name?
Make up a cool one for them, keep it short and simple, one syllable like “Cash”, or “Free”.
if they don’t like it, fuck em.
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How about: “Bitch” … would that work for you, Stymie?
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I usually give ’em my rap name: Dry Ice.
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DJ Wry Droll
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Dry Hump
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Eliot with another grand slam.
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Do you guys remember the white female 911 dispatcher who got fired for posting “racist” comments on Face book about the black people she had to deal with?
One of the comments she made about was about a black woman who wanted to report her boyfriend assaulting her children, but the only name she had to give the dispatcher was some slang like “T-Dogg”.
The local news station stuck a camera in her face expecting her to apologize and beg for her job back, but she didn’t. She very diplomatically explained how these kinds of nonsense calls divert resources from real emergencies.
Trayvon Martin’s dad didn’t even know his own address when he called to report his son missing.
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Trayvon’s dad did not know his own address?
That is because addresses were invented by the race that oppresses all others, my race, the white race
addresses are racisss, just like legal citizenship or correct spelling are
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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
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Nawh CF, Tracy Martin was boffing 3 different women at 3 different houses; you’d get confused too.
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Best post in this thread. Solid, simple game advice, the kind of shit that works because you might actually remember it.
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Zbigniew Brzezinski
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Pepin Le Bref?
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Mbembe !ngbentu?
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“Your other option is zero net presence. ZNP is the safe alternative, and it will certainly stoke curiosity in women in this day and age of pajama-concocted character story lines uploaded to social media megacorp spy machines. But it will also invite more questions than you may be comfortable batting away. If you prefer to go more with the cultural flow, you’ll have to manage your online presence. Welcome to the age of endless self marketing.”
Why would it be uncomfortable? I suppose it depends on the type of person you are. My serfs expect me to be unavailable, aloof and having better things to do than sit around on Facebook hitting “Like” every time somebody posts a graphic they didn’t create that was “funny”. When I am on the internet I’m anonymous (such as here) and only during “working” hours, at best.
Advantages that I’ve found from this kind of attitude.
1. It creates mystery. In this day and age of social voyeurism, you’re the one that dares not be naked on the stage with the rest of the herd, hell, you’re not even in the same auditorium as the rest of the exhibitionists. The very first thing a woman does, if she’s interested in you, is wonder (usually aloud) “but…why?” Let her stew on it.
2. It’s a quick tell, if you’re a normally active/social guy in real life, that you have better things to do. If you’re out and about like I am after working hours, it reaffirms the identity that they’ve already seen and acknowledged.
3. It creates the impression of rebellion and non-conformity. Couple it with direct statements of “I have better things to do” with no further discussion of the topic ensuing, and you become oddly mysterious rebel bad boy. “But but but how do you keep in touch with family?!?” “Carrier pigeon. Any other questions?”
4. It makes you less like a girl. Sitting around texting all day and smarming on Facebook or other social media IS A WOMAN’S THING. Independent, alpha men have a life they’re confronting head on, and winning; who would expect them to sit around in pj’s, sipping cocoa and posting about Miley Cyrus?
On topic: As to the conversation, sounds typical. A complete lack of self awareness coupled with inane idiocy and chatter. If you made a recording of the conversation and played it back to her, pointing out the insanity, she’d deny that it was her voice. Women are strange like that.
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ZNP is the way to go. Doesn’t hurt that I share a name with a US Senator and several pro hockey players. Covers up any trace of me online.
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how many Barbara Mikulski’s can there be?
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I think there is one on the Red Wings.
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I’d imagine only one. Having that much dumb concentrated in two places has to violate some natural law.
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Babs is a fine piece of ass.
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Generally agree. However,
“Sitting around texting all day and smarming on Facebook or other social media IS A [LITTLE GIRL’s] THING.”
Also, see yesterday’s headline about social networking making you stupid. As predicted.
Note, I’ve raged elsewhere about the inability to truly communicate via social networking b/c of all the missing signal (yes, yes, you can manipulate, you just can’t truly, fully communicate)
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shoot, forgot the article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2551578/Is-Twitter-making-STUPID-
Social-networking-sites-making-hard-people-think-themselves.html
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4. Amen
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I went Zero Net Presence since last year and never looked back. Best thing I ever did. My time was no longer being eaten away by status-whoring wall posts, asinine likes, and mindless tweets, and I now have more time to pursue my personal goals. Unless your line of work requires a modicum of social media involvement in order to stay in business, I would urge all the men reading this to do the same.
Sure, I can’t get attractive women through social media sites, but that doesn’t stop me from approaching them. If anything, ZNP sharpens my game because I am forced to rely on body language cues, voice tonality, and the overall “vibe” of the face-to-face interaction in order to escalate quickly and and crush some ass. If I don’t bob and weave her shit tests, put my hands on her body ASAP, and whisk her away to my apartment nearby, then I either settle for her number and play the texting game, or I purposely cut the interaction short and move onto the next broad. Time is money, and if she appears to be a bad ROI, then I immediately drop the stock and explore the market for more lucrative options.
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I was with a group of men last night and one of them was sent a screenshot by a female friend of his profile on a female-only website called Lulu. This site allows women to create a profile of a man, discuss him at length, rate him, and share it with any other woman who wishes to view. Further, these other women can opine and rate this man (I’m guessing it’s market specific), thus allowing several hamsters to spin in the same wheel.
This is the site – https://onlulu.com/auth/intro/1/
This man is about to be a BFD and thankfully this particular screenshot did not feature anything negative about him.
Immediately, most of the other men were eager if a woman had created a profile for him and discussed him. It was a common act of beta males. One male who called his sister so she could login and check for his profile asked why I chuckled. I could only think of the great teachings of CH.
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I find more bitter than death
the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap
and whose hands are chains.
The man who pleases God will escape her,
but the sinner she will ensnare.
27 “Look,” says the Teacher,[b] “this is what I have discovered:
“Adding one thing to another to discover the scheme of things—
28 while I was still searching
but not finding—
I found one upright man among a thousand,
but NOT ONE UPRIGHT WOMAN among them all.
LOLOLOLOLOLOZZLOLZ
29 This only have I found:
God created mankind upright,
but they have gone in search of many schemes.”
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The [f]woman of folly is boisterous,
She is [g]naive and knows nothing.
14 She sits at the doorway of her house,
On a seat by the high places of the city,
15 Calling to those who pass by,
Who are making their paths straight:
16 “Whoever is [h]naive, let him turn in here,”
And to him who lacks [i]understanding she says,
17 “Stolen water is sweet;
And bread eaten in secret is pleasant.”
18 But he does not know that the [j]dead are there,
That her guests are in the depths of Sheol.
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It’s funny how the ancients were able to notice truths using common sense and experience. Now we have things like SAT scores to prove they were right. Women, on average, are simply not nearly as smart as men. They are, in fact, “large children.” Period. Don’t give me any bullshit about them being smarter at other things like “communication.” No, they are not as smart in ANY area. It’s just obvious to anyone who has lived in this world more than 18 years.
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Woman: the most responsible teenager in the house
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being smart 500 years ago meant no bullshit distractions from technology and a lotta time to think.
if you have a M-F, 9-5 today you are a fucked up dude.
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That multiple levels of “communication” thing is bullshit anyway. Female communication between themselves is deliberately limited to innuendo and lies. If they had any intelligence they’d realise not to use it when communicating with men.
Fail.
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aint that the truth
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Immediately, most of the other men were eager if a woman had created a profile for him and discussed him. It was a common act of beta males.
That’s hilarious, considering that women are harshly critical of betas.
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1. CH guys create a bunch of fake female FB accounts. As far as I know, this is easy to do isn’t it? Get some hawt photos.
2. All those FB accounts join onlulu .
3. All those onlulu members give social proof to the real guys behind the FB accounts, etc.
4. Enjoy the general positive vibe that results.
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Insidious.
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Yes, but step 3 requires further elaboration once “inside” seeing how it really works in this women’s bathroom that is onlulu.
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Omega FB hook-up game – chronic desperation leads to time behind bars. Can a man recover from something like this? Creeper for life?
http://www.fox21news.com/news/story.aspx?id=1004121#.UvU72M7WC64
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HIs problem was not because of FB, but because he was caught soliciting underage girls. It just happens that he was doing that on FB.
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ahhh, the Lorenzo Von Matterhorn…
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Classic… there is so much right about that show that I’m surprised it hasn’t been banished from the airwaves long ago.
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lol, well done man …
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The tragicomic part of this is that you overheard women who are nearing the wall, late 20 early 30 somethings and the conversation reads like what you’d hear two 19 year old chicks engaging in. Speaks volumes about the maturity and intelligence of the modern American woman.
Secondly “that military stuff” is hilarious. I have to tell you, though I have said I don’t wish for total anarchy; it would be fascinating to watch every single SWPL liberal white chick in this country suddenly become REALLY interested in military stuff and men who knew about it.
No idea that that “military stuff” has built the entire infrastructure that has allowed for this vapid seagull to squawk about how much it displeases her.
When I hear things like this is when I’m most interested in watching the wheels come off in a spectacular fashion. Never has a more ruinous creature been birthed into the world than the modern Western woman and her ilk.
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Jay, remember what it was like for a brief, shining period after 9/11? When American women were afraid that this violence might be needed to protect them and their children? How being a masculine man was suddenly back in vogue? Didn’t last long, alas…
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Fuckin A. Those two weeks or so are my touchstone. It reminds me that so much of this decline is superficial, and that men rally under the right circumstances. All at once, without direction from the top, without hesitation. It was an anomalous moment, but it proved something. My fellow citizens are not what you see on TV or in politics. Despair is for women.
In a non-suicidal culture, Beamer, Glick, Burnett, and Bingham would have been canonized and taught to every schoolkid how free men instantaneously organize and respond to disruption and challenge. Instead some hack Hollywood jew cunt made an unwatchable, ambiguous Lifetime Movie Network about United 93, and the only reason to mention that quartet these days is because one of them was a peter-puffer whose heroism therefore is specialer than the rest.
In other words, there are enough of us to ensure that this country will not go gentle into that good night. Man, woman, and child wait for those rare moments when they can be their true selves, when superficial degenerate politics are shoved aside and the villains named, when upstart poseurs and bitches-in-over-their-pretty-heads stand aside to let righteous men direct their lives and unfuck the decadent mess they’ve imported to “This other Eden, demi-paradise, / This fortress built by Nature for herself / Against infection and the hand of war.”
Matt
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In a non-suicidal culture, Beamer, Glick, Burnett, and Bingham would have been canonized and taught to every schoolkid how free men instantaneously organize and respond to disruption and challenge. Instead some hack Hollywood jew cunt made an unwatchable, ambiguous Lifetime Movie Network about United 93
Truth— I remember my heart soaring off Beamer in particular with some final calls to action realizing what comes next. Leonidus, reincarnated— Let’s Roll
Goddamn right…
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Fuckin’ truth. I recall on 09/11 targeting a car driven by a Subcon/Paki on I-95 in Connecticut, I’ll never forget the look on the little fucker’s face when he saw me.
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about one week.
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> “Secondly “that military stuff” is hilarious.”
And yet, when it’s all said and done:
SHE STILL WANTS THE CREEPY MILITARY-HISTORY DOUCHE-COCK!!!
Women want men with a spine.
Men with determination.
Men with resolve.
Vascillation, hesitation, or wishy-washy-ness gets your ass sent straight to Beta Hell.
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or he’s a dork running some “mall ninja” game. no resolve required!
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the scarlet whore has been unleashed
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“creepy military history stuff he collects”
Like, omg, Britney, all of those dead white males that fought for our country are just, totally creepy.
NUKE THE WEST, TODAY.
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when your history is reduced to ever smaller concentric circles representing 2 hour blocks of time, who cares about yesterday?
i’m serious. broads look forward, and not that far either. use it, profit. or turn into Matt King.
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I’m sure this made sense in your head before you typed it.
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nah, was waiting for you to show up and explain my thoughts to me.
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> “NUKE THE WEST, TODAY.”
Dude, not so fast. The Lord works in mysterious ways:
9/11 Truther Rosie O’Donnell: My Son Joined the Military to ‘Annoy’ His ‘Left-Wing’ Mother
Scott Whitlock
February 7, 2014
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3120511/posts
…Updating everyone on life since the show, she revealed that Parker, her now 18-year-old son, will be attending the Citadel…
…O’Donnell admitted she interrogated her son as to why he made such a decision and he responded, “Only in America, mom, could somebody like you who came from a horrible childhood, grow up and adopt kids like me who needed a family and I owe something to this country”…
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Libtard to neocon patriotard. BFD. Hardly a 180 from my perspective. Now if he keynote spoke at an Amren conference, that would be something (and the Freeper cretins would either ignore it or castigate him worse than they do Rosie).
She’s right by the way that towelheads in a cave with boxcutters didn’t do it.
Never mind bldg 7, obviously suspicious as that is. You could, otherwise, at the least, point me to a video with a unaltered time stamp, showing hijackers CONTIGUOUS WITH THE OTHER PASSENGERS boarding planes and going through security.
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It’s creepy if a man finds out any information about a woman without her knowledge…but perfectly okay for her to invade every space you’ve ever occupied on Earth.
And we still let them vote and write advice columns.
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Someone posted in the comments yesterday about a guy who was being charged because he read his ex-wifes email without her knowledge. The DA was actually prosecuting a guy for this on computer hacking charges when the ex brought it to their attention. The charges were dropped when they found out their key witness, his ex-wife, had been snooping on his stuff for years.
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Any DA that even paused for a moment to consider bringing charges on such a thing obviously has too much time on his/her hands and should be drummed out of the profession.
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Creepy means something like “I don’t like this because I can’t control him, and he’s using his brain rather than his muscles.”
It means she wants the man to be her muscular brute slave, and he’s not doing it at all.
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I like that.
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Way off again. Creepy means nerdy awkward unattractive bad hygiene khaki wearing dork who disgusts her.
In her brain it’s rape for a niceguy creep to LOOK at her.
Creep has no chance from start based on his clothes.
She’s not wanting him to be dominant.
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The problem with ZNP is that it’s simply going to blow a whole load of leads for you. There are a lot of girls out there that have it in their heads that if you are not on FB etc you obviously have something to hide.
The situation come up with me a few days ago. I was with a friend (girl), opened a three set. All 6s but nice girls. Early 20s. Played it well. Patient. Got a strong hook. Target kept butting in when I initiated conversation with her friend. I wasn’t particularly bothered with it all, and considered it an easy close. Usual routine.
Hey I gotta run, this was fun, maybe we can discuss it more over coffee sometime.
Yeah sure, let’s add each other on FB.
Wow, haven’t heard that before. I’m not on FB.
(Arms waving) (attitude) how can you not be on FB???
Why should I be on FB. I’m not a little girl.. ..at least the last time I checked.
(laughing) turns to my friend and starts asking her how long she has known me etc.
My eyes glazed over with boredom, and I left shortly afterwards. The fact is, even if I did finesse her into swapping numbers that girl is still going to go away and google the fuck out of you. And she will keep doing it until her, or her friends find a reason against you.
I’ve gone to great lengths to create an online DHV in order to counter this by pre-empting it, and that has helped massively.But I have never overcome the ‘you are not on FB’ objection when they raise it first. Not once.
You have to develop a technique to pre-empt it. ZNP is not going to be optimal with young girls.
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You’re letting them create the frame, then advise conforming to it, then blaming men who don’t want to play the game.
ZNP works fine, if your frame is the strong, confident man who has a lot of things to do besides fritter away time hitting “Like” to idiotic posts on FB.
A couple of problems with your scenario:
“A couple of 6’s”: First problem, you’re aiming low and towards the target demographic who has a huge sense of entitlement for no actual reason, hence why they are on FB/social media in the first place, in order to keep the unearned buzz going. Without a bevy of idiotic beta/gamma guys and fugly gf’s telling them how cute they are, their egos wilt. That cut your odds in half right off the bat.
Second problem: You didn’t find an alternative to present. If you’re not on FB that’s great (neither am I) but do have a quick follow up way to touch base. Phones, last check, work fine, or set the date immediately (I do see you tried, in a generic sense) but with specifics. Always walk in with specifics at hand.
Third problem: You let the friend hang around while you were trying to close the deal. That rarely works out well if the friend is already in “butt in the conversation” aka cockblock mode. Send her off to get a drink or something, then try the date setup.
Her friend cock blocked you, without her presence there you could have easily stood your ground and made it a position of strength.
No girl addicted to social media is worth the bother. If she “uses” but can pry herself away, great. If she *NEEEDDDDS!* you to be on FB in order consider any social interaction, then run.
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I can see that you are trying to help, and it’s well taken. Either I didn’t explain well or you misunderstood. Suspect the latter, because you have quoted things I didn’t even write. This wasn’t in an English speaking country (an EE 6 is = American 7), and they happened to be sitting on the same table as me*
I was talking to her friend(s) precisely because I wanted the target to butt in. She passed the test. Incidentally her friends weren’t cock-blocking at all. On the contrary.
This wasn’t a cockblock, a weak pitch, a lack of DHVing, or any other of that stuff. She initiated the FB adding so we could arrange a date. BTW, the coffee stuff is in order to frame the interaction afterwards.. I am on FB but I have a ‘no FB’ rule when gaming chicks. I could have whipped out my phone and showed her my manufactured online presence (solely created for these situations, but I have a large Non-FB web presence anyway) but I couldn’t be bothered with a 6 raising objections over no FB.
All told, we just have to accept that there are a lot of girls out there who are simply not going to believe that someone isn’t hiding something if he isn’t on FB. That’s just the way it is.
Agree with your last point 100%. They really aren’t worth the bother. My gut feel is that holding your frame with a rigid ZNP is going to lose you more than you win, but I’d like to hear other people’s thoughts on it too.
*And yes the FB bullshit is spoiling young girls in Eastern Europe too.
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Fake Facebook. Chicks googling you helps get them familiar and comfortable with you. It reduces the probability of a flake.
So besides outright losing a lead to ZNP, the leads you get would be more likely to be weak. And if the leads are weak. You’re weak.
Fake Facebook.
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The point is that I really don’t care what “she” believes. My experience is that she adjusts to my frame, my view, my outlook, not vice versa. To me, and I may be the odd man out here (likely am), creating fake FB’s or creating a little to no use FB/Twitter is scrambling to adjust to her expectations. For the record, I do *very* well in real life and am at a point where I rarely ever have to approach a woman first these last few years. Social proof (real life), reputation, looks/build, minor community celebrity (I’m well known around my parts), command of the scene you’re in, all of these do wonders to make her snarking about Twitter/FB disappear into the dank recesses of her mind. That kind of confidence locally also translates when you’re not local, and the results are the same.
When women meet me it’s almost always in my venue, on my terms. My identity, my frame (I keep using that word, not sure if it’s accurate, but saying “presence” or “situational authority” is cumbersome) is such that one would be thrown way off in thinking that I gave two shits about social media.
Example:
Consider the guy who works on an oil platform out in the gulf. You’d expect this guy to have ZERO interest in social media, because he spends day in and day out, 14-17 hours a day, doing absolutely manly things and would naturally assume that he has better things to do. You’d expect him, on his time off, to be a hard drinking womanizer who spends his $250,000 a year faster than he can make it. He has a specific identify and presence that instinctively excludes expectations of idiotic SWPL notions like social media and some other social graces. I’m not an oil platform worker, this is just an example.
I guess younger guys may need to do this bullshit, I really don’t know, and honestly I feel for you younger bucks because of this crap. All I can suggest is that over time you craft your identity, aura, stature, positive social proof, presence, frame etc. in such a way that you won’t have to bother worrying about “what she might think” regarding any potential target of your aching lust.
The king does not don the habits and clothes of the serfs in order to find a bride, the women instead come to him begging to be considered. The choice is to make yourself a king of your community in some manner (take your pick) and go from there. It takes time, likely longer than you have at the moment, but I strongly encourage walking down this path.
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Your argument that ZNP is a problem because a woman will attempt to google stalk you doesn’t make sense to me. If you are occupying headspace in an activity that is ostensibly a rabbit trail, how is that problematic? Seems to be it is in your favor for someone to be so interested in you as to continue to scour the internet for a trace of information about you.
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Her Google stalking you is fine, as long as you can manage what she sees. As pulsotic correctly writes, girls require comfort. The problem is if you have ZNP, and she can’t find anything on you, then she won’t be comfortable with you. You will lose more than you win with young girls.
Now, think about what they are thinking about a man with ZNP. They just assume that you really want to have a FB profile (because they all do), but you must be needing to hide some serious shit (because they hide stuff all the time) in order to not to have one.
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As an older guy with a pretty vestigial FB presence, I don’t understand the point about hiding something. You write your FB profile and choose your friends. Why would it be hard to hide being a convicted axe murderer on FB?
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The point is that, tactically speaking, it’s better just to have her phone number rather than get involved in their ‘FB world’.
Think of it like this. You are in the final interview for a prized job. You just have to meet the final decision maker for a one-on-one interview. It will be a yes or a no.
Then all of a sudden a letter arrives informing you that you have to go resend your CV in, with lots more details on it, so some junior staffer can assess it all rationally, and then filter down to the 15 they want to interview from 80 applicants. Oh and the CV will be looked at by a committee of people most of whom don’t want you to get the job.
That regressive move from final interview to initial CV is analogous to what you are doing by entering her FB world.
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Isn’t that the point?
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I bet CH left out the part where he dialogued the two bitches and then had a three-way with them. I guarantee those two chicks needed lotsa cocksas!
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Eh, quick tip, if one does not have a common last name, always play around with the spelling, FB is dreadful when it comes to the search function. And perhaps “dark Triad” it can be advantageous to use the Hamster’s Google Fu for ones own benefit when tracking down someone else
Cannot believe anyone would be dumb enough to use their actual name on social media sites, basically they are “dumb” data bases and only know what you tell them..treat them like the stupid bitches they really are and use it to your advantage
“If all men were good, this would not be so good, since (wo)men are inherently bad this is necessity”- The Prince, updated
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everyone here should use the facebook lastname of AINTTELLIN
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What the hell’s wrong with ‘military stuff’? Chicks dig antique weapons and Nazi paraphernalia.
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Slip matter of factly the fact that you own a rifle or a handgun into a conversation with swpl girls and watch them light up.
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My wife and I mentioned this to a yoga instructor friend of hers, and the next thing I know we are making plans to go to the range (she’s never shot before).
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*cough* threesome *cough*
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Never did it, just a thought experiment: you are regarded by SWPL girls as a worldly, intelligent, professional type — around forty years old or older, to allow for an adequate amount of biographical distance. And you let it slip that you were in the Klan or a Skin group in your early twenties (with no judgment in present time on your attitude toward that part of your life). How does a SWPL girls react?
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That is exactly what I do. Although, I still look as if I’m a skin (minus the 100% shaved head–I still have a lot of hair). I was involved in Nationalist groupings in Britain, South Africa, France, and Germany. The girls generally don’t give a shit. I mention the background, the African travels, the shooting range, the weight-lifting, the gym workouts, etc., etc., it’s no big deal. They will love you more for it. It’s a turn on for them.
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The level of stupidity demonstrated in the conversation above is all the reason any thinking man needs to go abroad for a wife. I can’t even get it up for chicks this dumb and superficial, no matter how hot. Most hookers have more brains. This is what is running the country today.
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Try working out more to raise your testosterone.
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Come on, now. You can literally bang the sense into them. Their attachment to surreality is just like any of their other loyalties: thin, easily breakable, and even more easily replaced. Think creative destruction.
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I haven’t figured out how to improve her brain by what I do at her vagina. Sadly.
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It’s easy if you try.
You can start off by planting subliminal instructions in her cooze via morse code. Try this fuck rhythm:
— • • / — — — / — • / —
• • • — / — — — / — / •
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Dude, all women are this shallow and superficial. We love ourselves some gossip. We’re hardwired to be in tune with the daily happenings of our environment, and treat it all as if it is far more important than it actually is.
Women abroad are no different in this regard. Men just don’t notice such behavior as keenly, mostly because her cultural scrubbers are filtering for different things than those of stateside girls. She’s still doing it. You just aren’t tuned into it.
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You are too idealistic. You remind me of myself in my youth. Get grungy and shitty, no thought is too base or greedy or ugly, and you’ll have an easy time with the chicks.
Yeah overseas ones too. But you may prefer one from overseas anyway, there are more different cultures and more sheer numbers to choose from.
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“You are too idealistic. You remind me of myself in my youth. Get grungy and shitty, no thought is too base or greedy or ugly, and you’ll have an easy time with the chicks.”
holy shit, you do get it.
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I can’t figure out how you listen to things like that and still want to bed them.
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Sorry, by “things” I meant “asinine conversations like that”.
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The stock answer is to say that vapidity and fecklessness has no effect on the boner, and all that matters is how she looks. This is palpably untrue, the non-physical is nearly half of what goes into the female attractiveness formula, but leave that to one side (because the toadies hop forward and screech whenever a “poon commandment” is contradicted).
Whether washed-up skank or daisy-fresh virgin, the sex act is the most efficient way to transform a woman. It is intimate, it is powerful, and what femininity is left in her will insist that it be rare — even if she has to lie to herself (one-night stands and BJ’s don’t count!). Done right, sex rattles their brain, it bonds them to a man and his judgment, it clears out space to be filled up by a man’s will.
That’s what “the game” should be: how men might weave together the physical, psychological, mental, and spiritual strands of intimacy in order to reboot even the blackest of black-hearted bitches’ souls. With the understanding that the window of opportunity closes roughly in line with a woman’s fertility, and decreases with every strange pork her quim absorbs. This adolescent stage of game is solely interested in how to sneak your dick into a slut’s worn cooze before she figures out what’s happening.
But face it: in our era of defenseless women drunk on flavored vodka and self-esteem, who were taught from the cradle to always overestimate themselves, capturing their bodies for a night or three is not rocket surgery. Capturing their souls is a bit more of a challenge. And as it happens the future of civilization depends on us doing just that.
Matt
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+1
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MK – I replied to you & Joey below.
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It signals which orifice needs stuffed.
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Because they’re women. If they acted like men, well, it wouldn’t be much fun would it.
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see, between this one and MKs comment above, this is it.
theyre fucking women. who cares what asinine shit they say and do? it doesnt matter. they say women mature faster, right? that just means that by the time they turn sixteen, theyre all growed up, and thus gossipy vapid empty headed pretty idiots forevermore. old ass women in retirement homes play the same fucking games they did when they were young and hot, just the subject matter has changed.
the good thing about women having nothing of import (besides looking hot and maybe taking care of kids if they have them) in their heads is that along come men and put good shit in there. ahh, how we long for the feminine women of days gone by. yearn for the men of those days who made them what they are. the feminine mystique, the great question of ‘what the fuck, women?’ has a simple answer.
women, in isolation, are nothing. they are pure reactivity, and require outside actions to exist at all. this, they usually get from men, who in isolation are pure action (have you ever read the book Hatchet? imagine if it were a woman instead. ha!). women are a mirror of us, a touchstone to see if we are pure gold or something more base.
denounce feminism, because it is evil, but remember Adam was the first feminist when he let that bitch get him to eat the apple instead of slapping her shit to the ground then having hot ass make up sex, and so it was our forefathers allowed women to vote, and our forefathers who allowed them into our militant universities to soften them, and our forefathers who allowed unjust laws, and we today who persist in allowing ourselves to be not man enough to have good women.
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Exactly, I’d rather have women acting like this (asinine, feminine) than acting like lawyer cunts (masculine, aggressive). Theredpill acknowledges women’s personality & excepts it. A feminine personality allows a man to come in and like a road roller transform a woman’s mind – and that’s the way it should be. Who knows what the sexual market consequences would be if women were logical and arithmetic, it would probably lead to more hypergamy than we thought possible.
Comment of the week.
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Or live in a way that you have a very positive net presence. Chicks who Google me get war stories and pictures of me looking like Rambo or something. Weeds out the filthy hippie chicks, but you’d be shocked how many very liberal girls find it a turn on. I think deep down many liberal girls just want to make love to a right wing oppressor 🙂
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Self confessed right wing Green Party / Performance Artist chick magnet.
Teh crazee is hot. It’s not LTR material though, usually, unless you can poison their wee utopian birdbrains and fill them with solid right wing blood and iron type shit. That takes time though and long before then, you’ve probably run out of chocolate syrup to pour on her and gotten over the buzzcut which admittedly looks cute on her, but no other women you know because the other women you know aren’t bright eyed, skinny yoga fanatics. On the plus side, there’s always plenty of room to bang one out in the back of an older Volvo 240 wagon.
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Matthew King: “reboot even the blackest of black-hearted bitches’ souls”
Joey: “That takes time though”
Just two quick points – I don’t know how recently MK has been on a university campus, but the level of black-heartedness in the blackest of souls is pretty damned black these days.
I recall a conversation we had a while back where I was trying to warn you that not all folks will prove to be salvageable [i.e. that there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth].
And Joey is certainly right – you start with, say a 30-year-old witch, a grad student, who worked for a few years after undergrad, and then came back to graduate school, who’s been in the gubmint/NGO/non-profit sector her entire life [or similar shit like law firms], and you might need 15 or 20 years of coaxing to start to light a fire in her heart.
Or not – you might spend 15 or 20 years trying to coax her out of the Darkness, but at the end of it all, you come to find that she’s Darker than ever before.
Bottom Line #1: Either way, she’ll suddenly be 45 or 50 and menopausal/post-menopausal, and you’ll have gotten all of ZERO live births out of her to show for your effort.
Bottom Line #2: Life is too short to waste 15 or 20 years on some God-damned Satanic basket case who might very well prove to be impervious to your very best attempts at saving her any-damned-way.
Too short.
Way too damned short.
That’s why I keep urging all y’all dudes to be on the lookout for the nice girls from the good families, and to grab one for yourself just as soon as she comes prancing into your life.
And at a bare minimum, if you can’t find a nice girl from a good family, then be scrutinizing your libtarded girlfriends and fuck buddyettes for ANY SIGN WHATSOEVER of some basic warmth and kindness and human decency in her heart.
Do not drop your seed in one of the Evil Ones – the ones whose inner heart of hearts is pure, unadulerated Darkness.
Avoid those witches like the plague.
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I’m around a 75% conversion rate. And yet I have gazed into abyssal eyes and have seen no flicker there. But it is above my pay grade to determine whether a soul is dead (1 Tim 2:2-4). My only duty is to present truth and let those with ears hear it. You might be surprised at the power to instantaneously soften the hard-hearted. She is waiting, waiting, waiting for someone to deliver her from her tortured existence. I’ve seen Satan fall like lightning…
Everyone is a work in progress — until Christ returns in his glory. The secret is getting them over the hump and letting the Spiritus Sanctus do the rest.
In the meantime I am the happy warrior. The miserly, cramped little men around here think love is a zero-sum game, so they must hoard it for only the right people in the right places with the right thoughts. “Hear then the parable of the sower…” who throws his seed indiscriminately, not just in rich soil but on rocky ground and among thorns (Matt 13:18-24). I scatter my seed among the young and the old, the rich and the poor, the beautiful and the ugly, the good and the evil. I have plenty of nut for all.
The great man is defined by megalopsuchia, or greatness of soul, or magnanimity. He is constantly replenished so he is not concerned with holding back. There is so much calculation in petty men about who deserves their puny efforts, if anyone does. I have lost all ability to relate with skinflints and hook-nosed stockpilers, which is why I am unpopular among the uppity, grasping strivers here. I “consider the lilies, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin” (Luke 12:27). The more I give away, the less I am “of anxious mind” (30), the more I get. So much that I cannot possibly keep it all locked away in storage, whether that be wealth, attention, favors, loyalty, wisdom, friendship, trust, infatuation.
Megalopsuchia is an attitude that derives from largess and equanimity. Even if you don’t have much to give, give it away, and it will be returned a hundredfold. Guaranteed. And if you have nothing to give, fake largess till you make largess. It is an attitude, a way of life, more than a prudent distribution and husbanding of resources. You can grasp anxiously at water and see it leak through your clenched fist. Or, like Nietzsche’s “most world affirming being … calling out insatiably da capo,” (BGE 56) you can keep cupping and scooping and giving it away — and always be in the wet.
And the young pretty white girls say, “Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw” (Jn 4:15). And the colored girls say, “Doo, d-doo, d-doo, do-do-do, doo, d-doo, d-doo…” (L. Reed).
Matt
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“Everyone is a work in progress” Hallelujah!
He who waits for perfection, waits for Godot.
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exactly
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Matt?
Have you left your house recently?
Do you live in the West?
Have you tried given all, literally all you have, to someone who seems the only one capable of recieving it, recognise it, a real last-ish aristocrat.
Just to see the princess become a prole. . .
No, you do not necessarily recieve a hunderdfold. Actually, you will probabily never recieve two fucking fold… And that is being a man. You just try to suck it up, go through two years of depression just to cope with it, pretend nothing ever happened when you see her again… then you try harder not to fail and you still fail. And your failing has nasty consequences.
And you do not feel sorry for yourself. You feel sorry for her. You understand that she has fallen in a trap she didn’t diserve to fall on. You understand it was your duty to protect her. You understand you failed, you did not have the power to shake away the trap, the forces of darkness.
You understand your duty as a man is to be honourable. You understand you failed. You understand you want to die …
… and stil your rise up, turn “your guts into a heart” and you do something you previously thought you were not able to do. You grow and you surpass yourself as a man. Fuck it! You surpass every fucking single person around you. But it is too late.
You go there to give, to envagelise if you want, but you set boundaries. And then you get shit tested. And because you did something so much greater than she tought you could be, you get shit tested massively.
And you fail. And you don’t really know why you failed. But you failed.
And then you leave her be because you’re so damn tired, because you know you could be enjoying other girls of a lesser quality instead of planning the future to make babies, white babies that seem to be so treasured in here. White, +120 IQ, upper middle class, non leftoid babies, children, men or girls.
You leave her be because you only know you love her when you let her go is on the radio, and you realise you’re not doing yourself any good…
Call me a beta, I know I have alpha characteristics. But I know I’m not alpha.
Tell me I have a disease… oneitis… maybe I do, but I want to get out of there, if I haven’t gotten out. But the shit is, I know what I lost althouth I never had it. Because I know what the world lost and is losing every minute.
That’s the shit. And I don’t think that I am going to stop because it just got to long.
I just want to say that you shall not give to recieve.
You must understand that it’s normal to give and not recieve.
And I am a fan of you Matt, but I wonder if you live in the real world sometimes.
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Hah, that’s true Joey, that are not LTR material, alas… That said, the best LTR I ever had was with a vegetarian uber liberal, lasted over 3 years. We had a strange chemistry – she used to threaten to hide my alarm clock if I would go on a hunting trip, I used to make her feminist mom literally cry with anger when I responded to her attempts to goad me into a political argument. Nowadays I’m friends with a feminist activist, and she clearly has feelings for me despite knowing my blatantly opposing views. Opposites attract, to some degree. I say some degree, because right wing women won’t date leftist men. In this world though, I think you have to accept a considerable degree of political stupidity from women to have an LTR, very few have seen the light, how many females write a reactionary blog? Also, liberal girls really appreciate it if you find one thing they agree with you on (it can be rather neutral or benign, like saving pitbulls) and you can be “activists” together on that one thing – they’ll ignore all the other things you believe in.
BTW that girl I was with for over 3 years wound up skewing at least very libertarian before I left her. Reason being is that before I joined the military I worked in GOP politics and she was deathly afraid I was cheating on her when I went to work, especially on the weekends and in the evenings, and forced herself to sit through all kinds of dinners, speeches and political conferences to be by my side to the point that a lot of truth rubbed off on her. Some girls can be somewhat fixed if given a steady dose of reality (not saying the GOP is reality, but it’s a lot more right than the Democrats).
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The Way We Were is about that exact conflict.
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Thanks for pointing that one out, I’ll need to watch it. Saw a few pictures from the film and damn, Barbra Streisand had it goin’ on back in the day.
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Thank God somebody is doing it right.
It is not an “opposites attract” phenomenon. It is the exhilaration of witnessing truth annihilate lies. It is a liberation from chains she did not even know she had.
When they cry they are coming to terms with the realization that they could have been free any time they wanted to, but as is the case especially in old women, they are in so deep with the lie that they’d literally rather waste away and die than acknowledge the complicity in their own life-long torture. Yes, there may be spectacular waterworks when you force the issue.
Matt
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Oh! Lies feel so good!!!
– girls everywhere
THAT’S THE FUCKING PROBLEM MATT!
You will only get a woman away from the lies when they suffer in their own flesh the corrosive acidity of the lies.
But by then they are either too hooked on lies or have no vallue what so ever as girls.
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I’ve become more selective about which photos I now leave up. No goofy mugging shots, but shots of me at parties here girls are present and in the shot or with high-status friends hanging out “rat-pack” style.
I also selectively “like” posts or comment on them if I want girls to know i’m in town or planning to go to an event.
Finally, creating groups and using Facebook as a social-networking tool where you urge people “come out, great night ahead” without a lot of hard-sell.
All these add to you mystique.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/british-woman-jailed-trolling-facebook-article-1.1605696
“A British woman has been jailed for trolling herself on Facebook.
Michelle Chapman bombarded her own page with horrific abuse for more than a year to try and frame her dad and new step mom after an argument.
The 24-year-old set up fake accounts in their names to send the sickeningly vile – and often sexual – taunts.”
Get a load of that picture and this behavior will make sense real quick.
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“Get a load of that picture”
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Ah, the flower of British womanhood.
It’s a very stupid face as well as a very ugly one.
Maybe she will lose weight in prison.
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OT remember that Victoria Secret underwear model chick a couple posts back, who was presenting herself as being at the pinnacle of modeling? This is what a real fashion model looks like:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2553996/I-starved-agent-5ft-9in-model-strict-800-calorie-day-diet-taking-just-115lbs.html
VS models are way too fat, they are semiprofessional. I bet VS hires them cheap or even pays them nothing.
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Dude u r loony with ur vs posts.
Google images Adriana Lima hot
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Yes and if she posed nude that would be even more hot.
That doesn’t mean a successful fashion model will pose nude.
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It says she is now a healthy size four 🙂
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I’m not breaking news to say the fashion industry is run by faggots with tastes that incline toward pederasty. They first and foremost seek women who look like catamites because that is their warped aesthetic.
Secondarily, they want them tall, bony, boyish, and fascinatingly grotesque in the face because, like the envious sissies they are, they want attention on their work product, not on the lanky, animated clothes hanger. They do not want a gorgeous face or womanly body competing with what’s draped on them, whereas Victoria’s Secret is flat-out selling beauty in the hope that women will associate the models’ otherworldly attractiveness with their flimsy lingerie.
The “fashion” industry has long since ceased having anything to do with beauty. It’s a gaudy queer romp with big budgets.
Matt
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Nothing you said contradicts the economic facts of the fashion industry, something that’s big and powerful and eats hot women for lunch. Without this industry, what use is a hot body really? Only as much as guys like us will give it.
You think models would look better with more meat on their bones. You are welcome to your opinion, one that many others share. The VS model admits her agent called her a fat cow and she had weight issues. She would have been more successful if she could have been thinner. Maybe taller too, I don’t know if she was tall enough.
She had more weight issues even than some other VS models. (I actually listened to these interviews, analytically.) One said to her that she kept in shape just by fucking her bf a lot. The one who was talking said she was shocked, shocked by that. Why, the other girl had lots of sex, and less weight issues.
Somebody has to pay these models, and it’s clothing sales. Yes they are clothes horses. In the pecking order of things, a model for Givenchy or YSL will rank higher than one who models middle class underwear.
This is obvious, and anyone can see it if they stop being so impressed by a woman with a 10+ body — who can’t make it as a model because she doesn’t have a 10+++ body. Stop worshipping them. If you can do this, you’ll have no problem unraveling many other truths, and once you start thinking with your large head and not your small one, sufficient alphatude will come naturally.
I’m harping on this because it’s a mistake I used to make, and it’s hard to learn, and I see other men here making the same mistake of letting the small head disrupt cold hard logic and cold hard empathy. If you’re one of the few guys who can do this, you will stop over-validating them and can perhaps attract them instead. I am too short, though, for a model. I wouldn’t want a wife tall than me. But I have a friend about the same height as me, who has such a wife, and he’s happy with it and that’s great. The girl is very nice and friendly, not proud at all.
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“In the pecking order of things, a model for Givenchy or YSL will rank higher than one who models middle class underwear.”
What pecking order? Conde Nast? Because the most recognizable,*highest paid* models are (or were) VS models, not the heroin chic swizzle sticks in Vogue.
I’m sure Anna Wintour would go for the stick figures with flat chests, but if you’re talking money, recognition, and sex appeal, it’s the VS models that are the real supermodels. Ask any guy whether he’d rather look at a VS catalogue or YSL ads in Vogue magazine! 99% will pick VS I’m sure.
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A bit off topic but I’m in a celebratory mood. My ex is being abused by the asshole she ditched me for a few years back. The God of Biomechanics may be a cruel shithead but every once in a while he comes through in a big way.
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Congratulations. Go saunter up to some girls hotter than she is (or even was) and have fun!
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Hold on there. You never said anything about her leaving the asshole.
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Social media is for little girls and other easily distracted people.
Look around when you are in a city, on a subway platform. Everyone is looking at their phones. No awareness of the space around them. The only people not plugged into something are mostly shuffling around drunk or high on something. When the zombies come no one will even notice.
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Zombies eat brains…..they’re more prepared than you are.
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But are there any brains available?
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The zombies are already among us.
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“Social media is for little girls and other easily distracted people.”
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Neatly put, Baby.
Some dimwit is judging me by her moronic standards and is worried that I’m not on Facebook? Truly, it would be funny if it weren’t so pitiful.
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So true. Social media is an addiction to a momentary reprieve from the loneliness which is engraved deep within nearly everyone to varying degrees. Something that would be better solved by lifting our heads up and speaking to the thousands of people around us. It’s ironic that by being better connected we are really further apart than ever.
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Well done
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22 Great Negs, unintentionally suggested by a female
http://www.hercampus.com/life/entertainment/22-things-you-should-never-say-girl
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An outstanding resource for teaching one’s son about wymin’s frame and how to avoid conforming to it..
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Ha! what a great example of the inverse relationship between what girls say they want, and what they reward. Each single one of those “don’ts” is a nice, shivvy neg.
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It is always good to tell girls ‘you’re fucking crazy woman’. Most of them are on brain pills anyways. ‘but he can’t possibly know that about me, can he?’ enjoy the scent of wet pussy.
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Love that “You have a lot of feelings” could be a neg…
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… and the authoress’s one-liner commentary that follows each of the twenty two “don’ts” is about as ugly and charmless as the worst stereotypes of modern women go.
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Is it just me, or do all the women in those gifs look like they’re about to hate-f*ck the perp?
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Man, pays a very nice compliment, by saying, “You remind me of my mother.”
Obnoxious twit answers, “Isn’t your mother like 50?”.
I would immediately walk away, and have nothing to do with her after that.
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I would like to hear the Chateau’s opinion on this female cop failing to render aid to dying car crash victims in FL…
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/07/dashcam-video-shows-uniformed-officer-standing-by-as-off-duty-officer-begs-for-help-trying-to-resuscitate-crash-victims/
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The proposed five day suspension is terribly inadequate. She should be fired for failure to perform her duty when it counted.
She is a disgraceful individual who lacks caring and compassion. Failure to render CPR because she lacks gloves cannot be acceptable.
The hard comment I have is that I think this sort of critical failure is more likely from a female than a male, and this is sufficient reason not to employ females. Sadly our legal system has many “protections” to ensure that my concern cannot be actualized — these sad substitutes for human beings must be hired, retained and promoted.
I hope that her address becomes known publicly.
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That is pretty good but I think I can beat it…
Negroid w/ badge arrests white firefighter ON DUTY and responding to injuries at scene of accident. You can’t make this stuff up.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-chp-officer-handcuffs-firefighter-online-comments-20140207,0,6043681.story#axzz2sfAsxQpY
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The page is inaccessible for some reason
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Ah, it’s the Olympics again. I am watching the US women’s hockey team demonstrate, as we always see, that we have the toughest, most aggressive women in the world. Olympic pride!
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The only women who look better when they take a puck to the face!
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True, but on the net positive side of things you also get to watch lithe and flexible teenage girls in leotards pose in contortionist positions that are not -in the least bit- sexually provocative or arousing. Get your box of tissues ready…
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That’s mostly summer swimming and gymnastics, when they’re not showing our national pride and joy, our women’s soccer thugs er team.
Not much of it in winter olympics. Actually (truth) I like watching curling, which isn’t getting any coverage so far.
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Manjaw’s gonna manjaw.
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[…] Overheard In [Redacted] | Chateau Heartiste […]
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Damn it, late to the party and I have many questions. Is it stupid to add the chicks you’ve banged/flirted with to your Facebook, given the chances that one of them may try to sabotage you (by, say, contacting another chick you’re banging) or to try to fuck up a current relationship of yours? What about girls with dodgy baggage like dirtbag possessive boyfriends–stay well the fuck away or take the risk of adding them?
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[…] Out of their sight but not my earshot, I overheard the following conversation between two late 20s-early 30s SWPL girls giggling about a man one of the girls recently dated. *** “Did you check him out? […]
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“Folks, you simply cannot make up the utter lack of awareness and pathological solipsism exhibited by today’s modern Western woman. It’s like if you threw a woman into solitary confinement, she would claim the world was banging on the cage door to get in and join her.”
So fucking true. This weekend I was around a girl in her mid-20’s already on her way to the Wall (AKA, sort of hot but nothing special). Either way, she still talks like she’s hot shit. So she’s telling the group of people with us about this guy she started talking to and is interested in. The only problem is he shows no interest in her. She doesn’t know him well enough to know his past dating history, so the next part is hilarious. Her explanation for why he’s not interested in her?
“I think he’s asexual or something.”
You heard that right. A girl couldn’t bear to think that a guy wasn’t interested in HER, so the hamster assumed he’s just not interested in ANY girl. She thinks she’s God’s gift to the world, and myself and our friends couldn’t stand to be around her.
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