At yet another internet portal leading to a giant flapping angry vagina, a bitchy woman reveals, unintentionally, hilariously, a list of 22 excellent negs, teases, challenges, and disqualifications that would work very well as pick-up tactics. She begins,
Don’t say any of these phrases to a girl. In fact, don’t even think them around girls. If you do, be prepared for the wrath.
What follows is not so much “the wrath” as a bandwidth-eating mess of GIFs which she uses as a crutch to compensate for her total absence of a sense of humor. Like other bishes of her kind, you can properly assume that when a blogger bish gets all wound up with no where logical to go, she’s recently been dumped by an aloof alpha lover and is trying to assuage her butthurt ego by pretending it was his lack of betaboy politesse that really caused the breakup. This is never more apparent than when the limbically bruised bish logs online to vent her spleen about a laundry list of supposed horribly inconsiderate alpha male habits that… coincidentally!… every man she’s ever banged and prayed would become her long term boyfriend exhibited in her company.
Here’s her list, minus her vapid snark. You tell me if you don’t think these are the sorts of lines that natural womanizers employ with impunity.
1.”You look really tired.”
Tingles are born in the defensive crouch.
2. “Don’t take this the wrong way, but…”
This is a great opener, especially if paired with a long pregnant pause, followed by some silly construct, like “Don’t take this the wrong way, but……….. paper or plastic?”
3. “You remind me of my mom.”
Fantastic neg. Is this a bad thing, or a good thing? It’s not like you think ill of your own mother.
4. “Are you on your period?”
This is a version of “nuke the hamster from orbit” game. “Are you on your period?…. Because I heard that girls who drink gin and tonics are flowing like the Nile.”
5. “Are you wearing that?”
This line provides a good conversation thread break to what you think would look good on her.
6. “You might be able to fit into this.”
Spin, hamster, spin.
7. “Your sister is so hot!”
Neg. Is she chopped liver by comparison, or does hotness run in her family?
8. “You have a really pretty face.”
This is what the bish wrote: Just my face? What, you made it past my neck and decided that the rest of me was hideous? And that, gentlemen, is exactly what a tight neg is supposed to accomplish.
9. “Your hair looks way better (shorter, darker, longer, up, etc.).”
Chicks dig a judgmental man. Why? Because it means he can afford to be judgmental.
10. “You’re still hungry?”
#FatShamingForever. Nip that Jabba wannabe in the bud.
11. “Why are you freaking out?”
This tactic is less effective within the firm shell of a relationship than it is when unloaded during the dating period. All I can say is that if you have a girlfriend who freaks out a lot, you’re better off telling her to stop than asking her why she won’t stop.
12. “Didn’t you wear that last week?”
Related: Classic PUA neg: “Great dress. It must be popular. I saw two girls wearing it last week.”
13. “You ask a lot of questions.”
This line is very effective when delivered on a first or second date. It immediately imbues you with an air of mystery while insinuating that the girl is so into you she can’t help but be curious.
14. “I don’t know if I trust your cooking.”
Great challenge that can lead to a funny conversation.
15. “It’s not you; it’s me.”
If a man says this nowadays, he’s obviously being ironic. Or a mischievous asshole. Translation: He doesn’t care what you think of the line.
16. “Is that your real hair?”
Neg. Chicks will claim it’s offensive, but their muff moistening belies their words.
17. “Don’t be mad; I was just kidding!”
This is actually the one line on the list that men should avoid saying. Not because it’ll make the girl mad, but because it’s supplicating and unattractive.
18. “Are you sick?”
If a girl gets this line a lot, she may want to see a doctor.
19. “You’re crazy.”
Challenging a girl to prove she’s not crazy is liable to make her even crazier… thinking about you.
20. “You have a lot of feelings.”
😆 Love the ambiguity.
21. “Calm down.”
Sean Connery knows how to calm a woman down.
22. “How much do you weigh?”
“Excuse me?”
“I’m curious. You have the body for a bobsledder.”
“What does that mean?!”
“Hey, bobsledders are HOT. Do you have a problem with bobsledders? My beloved grandmother was a bobsledder, and she was CHOICE back in her day.”
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Programming note: It’s a good time to reflect how fantastically obnoxious American women have become. Ladies, if you’re reading, a helpful tip: You have to work to please men as men work to please women. Somewhere along the way, a fat lot of you forgot that simple truth, thinking that the world, and the world’s men, owe you something for nothing. Worse, owe you for acting like roaring cunts. Rest assured, reality will set you right in short order.
My favorite is still: “You’re not pretty enough to have that much attitude.”
The best part is that she’ll either flounce off, mortally offended (which means you’re free to explore other options), or she’ll be curious why you acted like such a bastard.
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Like that one. Gotta use it
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I like it. A nice variation is “I’m not sure you’re pretty enough to have that much attitude,” which elicits qualification.
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No. “I’m not sure you’re pretty enough…” is uncertain and tentative; “You’re not pretty enough…” is declarative, which establishes dominance.
If you don’t want to come down too hard, then ask the question, e.g. “What makes you think you’re pretty enough to have this much attitude?”
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Way off topic, but how do you guys judge the probable personalities of the various chicks in this picture:
Apparently they are Minnesota coeds, and Minnesota is a pretty dagum libtarded state – they’ve got a Unitardian and a Frankfurt School Nihilist for their senators:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Klobuchar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Franken
So it’s difficult for me to get a good grip on where these Far Northern European chicks might be coming from, as far as temperament and outlook and spirituality are concerned.
Come to think of it, I really don’t have all that much experience with Upper Midwest chicks.
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Minnesota is heavily Scandinavian – liberal, sanctimonious, feminist, puritanical. Wisconsin is German – a bit more down-to-earth and practical, except for Madison, which is essentially Pyongyang.
The blond in the pic is in the top 10% of Minnesota chicks. Words that come to mind to describe MN women are: large, stocky, hardy, powerful. MN dominates in women’s ice hockey, for example.
Most of the women in both states are unattractive. The few who aren’t either leave for the coasts or get snapped up quickly and disappear into suburbia.
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They’re the kind of chicks for whom the donkey punch was invented.
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“I’m not sure…” is only uncertain if not said with a smirk. Your suggested variation is better, though.
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3. “You remind me of my mom.”
I actually use a similar neg that I got from a Spider-Man comic I read back in the early 90s.
Mary Jane: *says/does something annoying/boring*
Spidey: Aunt May? Is that you? What are you doing here dressed as MJ?
I replaced the aunt may with “mom” and MJ with the name if the girl I was teasing.
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Wow. I never would have thought of Peter having ANY game at ALL.
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So who has seen the successor to Pajamaboy for the Obamacare Ad campaign
http://weaselzippers.us/171424-hhs-uses-mom-jeans-in-latest-push-to-get-people-to-enroll-in-obamacare/
Comfy Mom jeans. How about – fatass pay for your own healthcare
These elites willfully are imposing their bizarro world into these ads
As we noted with the originals a few months ago, – this is advertising coupled with demoralizing the very demographic of Whites that are picking up the tab for the NAM’s freeloading on health bills;
the chubby white girls struggling to workout while drinking wine, the white slut looking for condoms, followed by the campaign with Pajamaboy in the onesie–
Embedded in the marketing are subtle tweaks to mock and demoralize whites
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> “Comfy Mom jeans.”
Jesus H Christ that’s obscene.
They’re basically running a camel toe crotch shot of people’s Moms [or of what people’s Moms looked like several decades ago, back when the Moms were still kinda early middle-aged Cougar-sexy].
Wow, The Frankfurt School is evil.
If they can’t win with Pajama Boy as the Face of Frankfurt School Triumphalism, then they’re gonna double down hard – even harder yet – and shove a filthy stinking mess of Freudian Oedipus Complex horseshit down the throats of the Shkotzim?
I tell you what, “Auschwitz the Sequel” just can’t arrive soon enough.
Or, at a bare minimum, a proper Ferdinand and Isabella expulsion of the mother-fuckers right out of First World Civilization altogether.
Let their sorry asses wander in the desert for the next 5,000 years.
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Um…Cultural Marxism and Communism I’ll give you (even though the Rooskies were in on that last one and the Holodomor was more about Stalin crushing opposition), but mom jeans? Gross but not dangerous.
Also, Spain became a relatively backward second-rate power relatively quickly. The least anti-Semitic European nations, England and France, went on to be successful in the modern world. I’m not saying there’s a direct correlation (it probably has to do with larger cultural factors).
Heck, if the Krauts had stuck to killing Gypsies, gays, and the disabled, they probably would’ve won the war.
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You know who invented blue jeans, though.
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For a second — just a second — I misread the “HealthCare.gov” at the bottom right as “HealthCare.gay”. Or maybe “HealthCare.goy”.
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“Don’t be mad; I was just kidding!”
Ugh, good call on this one. Might as well profess your undying adoration for her and start building that pedestal out of good, solid oak right then and there.
If she’s angry (or more usually, pretending to be angry) a simple: “Would a Mydol help?” with genuine concern (aka feigned concern) suffices.
Two reactions to that. Stomps off pissed and who cares, or punches you on the shoulder and calls you a jerk/asshole (in the good way). Either way is a win because frankly my tolerance for the anger of women has about run its course and if she’s going to be fuming about something then I have no time left to care about it at this point in life.
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Speaking of punching in the shoulder …ANSWER THIS LADIES …
awhile back at a company function one of my athletic buddies that goes to the gym said something that got the social group to rib him. As he passed, I was laughing and put my hand on his shoulder and said, “Don’t worry dude. it ain’t that bad,” or some shit like that. I was struck by how solid the dude was. I knew he went to the gym but when I grabbed him I said to myself.”Damn, that dude’s a fuckin boulder. I’d have my hands full if I had to fight him.” So that got me to wondering, since I’ve worked out for 25 years and am stalky, do women that shake hands, hug, or touch guys in any way notice when a dude works out, and do girls notice when the guys don’t workout. And if so to what extent does this get the gina to do the tingle dance.
Just curious if any of you ladies have been surprised like this when toughing dudes.
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You have no idea.
Musclemen like the chippengays are not skinny for a reason. Thats all there is to say.
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Yes, we do notice, but it’s not an instant turn-on or anything. We’re much more likely to use that moment of contact—especially a hug—to take note of the way you smell.
And I know this is kind of off-topic, but the phrase “gina tingles” makes me roll my eyes so hard I can see corpus callosum. First off, “gina” makes me think of a girl’s name, not a body part. Second, it’s not a tingle. It’s more like…OK, have you ever been out swimming or running, and really burned a lot of calories? Worked up a big appetite, to the point where it’s almost making you a little nauseated. You’re heading home, and you get out of your car, and one of your neighbors is having a barbecue. You can smell charring meat, cheese, vinegar from the salads…and your stomach and salivary glands cramp with the desire for that food, filling your mouth with juice.
It’s like that. Not a tingle.
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You’re a good writer.
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Don’t encourage her
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I meant it. GTFO
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I think the manosphere picked up “tingle” from women quoting Sex in the City. I wouldn’t know myself of course.
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…a TV show written by gay men, who know even less about how women’s bodies work than men do.
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“First off, “gina” makes me think of a girl’s name, not a body part. Second, … cramp with the desire for that food, filling your [___] with juice.”
So … vag drool?
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…erm, well, if you want to put it that way, it’s closer than “gina tingles.” Only it’s kinda gross, you know? Why make it gross? I just call it The Hunger.
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I never thought about it, but you’re right. It’s not tingles it more like juicy cramps.
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“So that got me to wondering, since I’ve worked out for 25 years and am stalky, do women that shake hands, hug, or touch guys in any way notice when a dude works out”
Yes. I hug everybody. Muscular upper body = very hot.
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For betas it matters because it’s all they got. Girls will tell u that overly muscled and or overly tatted is a turn off, because it points to the same psychological damage that weight or short hair does in girls. Something is usually wrong. Gotta look bad ass because you don’t feel bad ass.
Muscles ain’t shit if you aren’t willing to cut off a dudes head and bowl with it And girls instinctively know it.
It’s really all in how well you can internalize your value.
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I’m not talking about overly muscled here. I’m talking about the “hard” effect that working out, athletic training, etc does. Some dudes are ripped and you wouldn’t know it until they take their shirts off. Those dudes are “hard” too I’m sure. I simply want to know if “girls” were ever surprised by this and how it made them feel. I myself don’t have that standard weight lifter physique. I am more of a strong man type husky.
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If the girl isn’t putting her hands where your large muscles are, she might not even know. And if she is putting her hands there, you’ve pretty much won the game already.
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Fuck! Perhaps I should have just typed “Ladies, ever been totally and unsuspectingly surprised how hard a man’s body was when you touched it (not his dick).”
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@newlyaloof “Perhaps I should have just typed “Ladies, ever been totally and unsuspectingly surprised how hard a man’s body was when you touched it “– No I haven’t.
You get the most value out of looking big and strong, not feeling big and strong to the touch.
[CH: If what women tell me in the afterglow of post-CH plundering is true, women love the feel of a man’s body. Not sure where you’re coming up with this contrarian stance.]
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Oh, I love the feel of a man’s body. But he’s asking whether I’ve ever been “surprised” by how hard a guy’s body is, and I haven’t. A muscular guy feels hard; it’s no surprise.
I think he’s trying to make the point that a guy can have a hard, muscular body but not look that way in clothes. That’s true and it doesn’t surprise me. I was just pointing out, though, in terms of initial physical attraction, he’d get more value out of actually *looking* big and strong. Obviously the girl sees you in clothes before she sees you out of them.
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I think I understand what Amy is getting at. If a man looks strong, he usually is. However, some of these muscular men are carrying a lot of extra weight. Basically, you want him to be strong, but also agile, fast, and have some endurance.
[CH: There’s a fair amount of consensus among studies examining women’s preferences in male physicality for men who are muscularly lean but not too big. But women are, on the whole, much more varied in this preference than are men in their preferences for the ideal female body. This is why plenty of meatheads get women and plenty of sknny fat hipsters do too.]
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I think reality usually surpasses expectation, when it comes to this sort of thing. A lot of guys who work out and focus on that sort of thing don’t develop the kind of physique that we see, say, Chris Hemsworth sporting in the Thor movies. But not every girl cares about that sort of thing when it comes to guys (which I don’t understand; I love feeling a man’s strength, makes me feel secure in a way nothing else ever could.)
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Cynthia,
If you like strength, then my glutes are the most sculpted constructs of titanium muscle around.
That is why there is a long waitlist of women desperate to pay $5000 for the honor of detoxing my buttox…
I will accept your application for consideration, if you fill it out properly….
If accepted from the highly competitive selection process, you will be allowed to…
…….Detox my Buttox.
-GB
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It’s nice that this makes you feel good. Does it increase the chances for a guy to get you into bed? Does it do so enough to justify the man-years in the gym required to give you this feeling?
Guys are generally a bit tired of doing things just because girls like them, so let’s make sure we are focused on the question of interest. So as for reality surpassing expectation, wouldn’t it be a shame for a guy to put in all that work and then, since he doesn’t get such a bulging physique, he still doesn’t get an f-close?
Providing more for a girl than she expects is beta. Provider mentality.
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Why the F are we asking a woman what she thinks when we KNOW that it means nothing. Watch what she does or ask a guy that knows this shit.
In field you can see the effect of muscles and how the hardness (this convo is gay) affects the ladies. They like it. They get tingles from it. It can surprise them the way it surprised Newly Aloof, but the curiosity it inspires is of the tingly kind, not the logical ‘how does the world work’ kind.
Next topic.
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@FamilyMan
The question was, are girls ever surprised by a guy’s strength? The answer is, yes, all the fucking time. The visual representations of male strength we see in the media do not mirror what exists in reality, so expectations are skewed.
Does it matter if a guy has a hard body? To some girls, yeah it matters a lot, to others, it doesn’t matter at all, and they date effeminate betas like PajamaBoy as a result.
I would never, ever, ask a man to work out just to make me happy. It’s not something that’s on my (very short) checklist for a husband. A guy should work out if it makes him feel good, for himself.
That being said, I am allowed to enjoy a man’s muscle mass, the same way a man is allowed to enjoy a woman’s breasts or narrow waist. These things are important not as a fetish, but because they serve to reinforce the way we relate to each other and feel about each other, as men and women. There’s a psychological aspect to this, for both sexes, that’s really important.
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“Girls will tell u…” = who gives a shit.
From a personal POV, it seems like -all- girls like muscles. Why? This may be anecdotal, so take it for whatever, but the response I get from the opposite sex has been universally far more positive now that I’m visibly fit and muscular. Old, young, hot, plain, artsy, conservative, etc. — universal positive effect.
And yeah, I think more is more in this case. Now, the aesthetic value of more muscles may diminish severely after a certain point….but the sheer presence is probably worth a lot.
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this whole willful ignorance thing you are sporting lately has me worried about ya.
the entire premise of game is listening to girls by rejecting their contrived social filters and deducing the signal. usually their subtle clues, sometimes their words. you better give a shit.
now im a big guy, but i get WAY more positive attention being 10 or 15 pounds fatter than normal because my natural (and developed, hat tip CH, Rollo, etc) style while attractive, is very intense. Few extra pounds makes ME more approachable, because my shit is locked down.
If you are worried about muscles, then clearly you need some more work, and i suggest quit using external ques as a crutch.
or maybe you are a beta for life and you will find a balance. who knows.
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“the entire premise of game is listening to girls by rejecting their contrived social filters and deducing the signal. usually their subtle clues, sometimes their words. you better give a shit.”
LOL This is Tili “A woman is not a person” Kum in another thread:
“Who the fuck cares what women think?”
But consistency in thought has never been his strong suit.
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Huffington Post is <<<<< that way sweetie.
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Learn to focus. Here is what I said: girls generally find more muscles attractive.
No one said anything about what makes someone approachable. No one said anything about needing muscles to attract women.
Deducing a signal =/= listening to what they say. The rule is forget what they say, watch what they do.
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Alpha body language and a muscled frame stirs a shit-storm of insecurities.
Aesthetics, attraction, expectation – These are well and good – at a distance.
Get into close-contact – and women become mentally unstable. Unworkable.
IF you get past the ‘knows it’ / ‘compensating’ / ‘full-of-himself’ dismissals – then you’ll spend half the night coaxing mama-button from under her hidey-hood because she’s worried you think her thighs are fat.
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charlie dont surf is a baller…..gets it.
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“For betas it matters because it’s all they got. Girls will tell u that overly muscled and or overly tatted is a turn off, because it points to the same psychological damage that weight or short hair does in girls. Something is usually wrong. Gotta look bad ass because you don’t feel bad ass.
Muscles ain’t shit if you aren’t willing to cut off a dudes head and bowl with it And girls instinctively know it.
It’s really all in how well you can internalize your value.”
-ish.
Women generally make a big fuss about how hard and “huge” I am. That said I’ve internalized my own high value so long ago that I honestly cannot conceive of being anything but high value. The two likely go hand in hand as you suggest. There are after all quite a few big guys who are mushy wimp kitten types around women, certainly that’s a turn off and sends the signals you note.
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“Muscles ain’t shit if you aren’t willing to cut off a dudes head and bowl with it. And girls instinctively know it.”
Exactly this.
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“Muscles ain’t shit if you aren’t willing to cut off a dudes head and bowl with it.
I told you f@ckin’ Krauts, I don’t roll on Shabbos.
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Yes, we would notice the same thing, and be pleasantly surprised. It is the reason girls will punch your arm, hug you, or otherwise try to touch your chest or arms. It’s a good indication of how strong you are.
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A poem for Lara :
The oceans grandly parted..
When I precisely farted..
Towards my Buttox, Lara darted..
To detox them, she started..
With $5000, Lara gladly parted..
From the gina tingles, she smarted…
-GB
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Beautiful. I wept.
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Why the 99% times you wrote those things to women? and 1% time you wrote one of those things to me, a man? that time I didn’t use this name of Lee Min Ho (like the Korean actor) ,that time I used the name ProudFeministGirl, but I am a man
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If you call yourself ‘ProudFeministGirl’, why would anyone assume you are a man?
I would certainly never invite a man to do the honors..
I was happy to take your $5000 fee nonetheless, even without allowing you to Detox my Buttox……Consider that a penalty for using such an ill-considered name.
-GB
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newly aloof, there was a test where men got to work out until they got sweaty, and the t-shirts they had been wearing were given to women afterward, who had not seen the men. The women were asked to rate the smell. The men who worked out on a regular basis and were the most fit also had the best smell. So even in this way, the most fit men won the contest. It is of course logical that women prefer men who are fit, healthy and muscular, since it improves the chances for survival. Do we even have to ask?
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broads love T. sweat and saliva are conduits for T signaling.
nothing to do with working out, you can be high t and a lazy fuck and still score 9’s. its capacity not current status.
go back and read the archives more better.
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Thing is, as we age our natural baseline for T decreases and it becomes much more important to work out to keep T high. Your comment is accurate until about age 29. Then the lazy man will have issues.
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lol working out increases your overall baseline t regardless of your age.
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I’ve had some luck using something like this. “Don’t be mad. I was just kidding.” Delivered in one of two ways:
Absolutely deadpan. Monotone. No emotion. Pokerface.
or
Over-the-top joyous happy schmo-face with lots of energy.
The key is to deliver the message with the tone “I’m lying to you, because I’m a liar.”
So, a question: I have a lot of success if I maintain the frame “I’m lying to you about everything”. Not “I’m lying to impress you”, but “I’m lying because I don’t give two shits about whether you live or die and and I don’t care whether you know or not”.
What’s going on there? Outcome independence? Mysterious-guy? I haven’t really internalized game yet. I just go with what seems to work.
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Outcome independence is more for your own calibration, although it’s true the girl is not attracted if you seem to care a lot about her.
It’s not very mysterious, actually all guys are mysterious and intriguing to women unless they beta up and destroy the mystery.
I think what’s going on here is just a plain old good neg. Like every neg, it works because it focuses her attention on you by requiring a response and self-qualification, and also because being pushed down tends to push some moisture out into the girl’s nether regions. All you need is to her attention on you without being beta, since you’re a guy with a penis and therefore she is programmed to be attracted to you, and a neg is a good and cheap way that any guy can do that.
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@Buck Futter
That’s called “self-amusement”. You’re doing shit because it’s entertaining to you with no fucks given about the outcome. I say/do a lot of stuff that should logically get me blown out of set, but because I’m self-amusing, it ends up building attraction.
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In years past, I would have regarded my behavior as “being an asshole” because I wasn’t showing concern for the feelings of those around me. But it was an internal struggle, as “being an asshole” got me attention and occasionally laid, while showing concern got me a handjob from myself. Over time I stopped trying to meet the external expectations and starting working with what produced results. I didn’t know why what I was doing was working, but I knew it worked.
Right here is the thing I like about reading sites on game: I’ve known WHAT I need to do, but I’ve never really known WHY I need to do it. Game is kinda like the scientific refinement of “sexual chemistry”.
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Re: the last (great) paragraph, perhaps this is self selecting for the worst–which is why they are on dating websites at age 32-38–but women believe the feminist lies they’ve been taught for 30 years HARDCORE. They unknowingly prove everything this blog preaches.
I wish they could be persuaded to read this blog somehow. It will never happen, but one thing I’ve seen mentioned here really is a failure of our society: the word “hypergamy” is not taught, anywhere, other than the new manosphere. That women are hypergamous, not naturally monogamous, is, of course, a FACT supported by numerous respected scientific journals, not just blogs. But nobody is taught this. Everyone knows the word “monogamy” but girls are not taught about their nature and asked to at least BE AWARE of it, the way men are taught to “not be dogs” and be monogamous even though men naturally want to spread their seed.
So anyway, reading online profiles of single women is like a science experiment. Literally 9 out of 10 of them explicitly state that they are turned on by “sarcasm” or “sarcasm is not a bad thing” but they have no understanding of why they like it. They don’t know anything about themselves, essentially.
By the way, have you ever met anyone who doesn’t love “having FUN!!!!” and “to laugh”? Me neither.
Like someone else said the other day, all women describe themselves as “educated,” never “smart” or “intelligent.” They are all looking “to enjoy everything this city has to offer me!!!” Always taking, never giving.
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Been on okcupid a bit the last couple of weeks. I don’t enjoy spending a lot of time wading through profiles unless the girl is an 8+ so I usually mass message with a few standard sentences, but occasionally get into original (non-canned) cocky openers or negs depending on the chick’s profile. Literally 30-50% of the time I open this way, I get something like:
“Cool story. Are you going to neg me now?”
“Nice neg, are you going to DHV now?”
“Let me guess, you’ve memorized ‘The Game’ by Neil Strauss” ((that was so 5 years ago, haven’t they heard of Le Chateau?))
Now most girls love being gamed, but the ones who respond like this always, always are keyboard warriors looking to get into an argument with an e-playa. The thing is, when I’m negging, I try to be very subtle (never rude, never painfully obvious like: “Your hair is kind of strange but I might give you a shot with me…”etc).
The larger point here is that my supposedly subtle negs with which I have a decent amount of success with (read: shoulder punches) in real life don’t translate into great negs when body language, tonality and facial expression are removed.
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They responded.
With a shit test. You failed it.
Ignore what they say, continue to game and assume the sale.
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Since men outnumber women on okcupid by about 100 to 1, and young attractive women are even rarer, there’s a high probability that they’re fake female profiles put up by male game-hating libtards.
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> “Now most girls love being gamed, but the ones who respond like this always, always are keyboard warriors looking to get into an argument with an e-playa.”
When Game becomes so commonplace that even the stoopid bimbo chicks realize what’s up – when all the nameless faceless loser dudes are simply reading from a script and struggling to discover their inner jackasses – then distinguish yourself from the crowd by not being a sociopathic lying prick, but rather by being A PERFECT GENTLEMAN.
Your job is to Demonstrate Higher Value, and in a vast endless sea of shit-for-manners conformists, you’ll stand out if you’re the only guy who shows that his parents have some proper home training.
Just remain MASCULINE as a gentleman – firm, resolved, and rigid in your masculinity.
Maybe even dis a little on the loser dudes reading from their scripts.
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Possibly, the girl is reacting negatively to the amount of attention you are paying to her. You would do better with your canned openers, which you don’t report as stimulating this sort of annoying response.
These girls might just be responding favorably to guys who insult them or send a bland response that does not apply to their profile. That’s the DHV they are screening for — that you’re a busy guy who frankly just looks at the faces and the stats.
I don’t have specific experience on these sites so this is just a guess for what it’s worth.
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My standard first messages are all generic, sprezzatura-type posts – the issue with these is that they’re less likely to get responses (positive or negative) than original messages. I think this:
“These girls might just be responding favorably to guys who insult them or send a bland response that does not apply to their profile. That’s the DHV they are screening for — that you’re a busy guy who frankly just looks at the faces and the stats.”
-is very difficult to convey online.
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there’s nothing subtle about that “neg”.
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Correct response: ‘Funny, the chip on your shoulder doesn’t show up in your profile pics.’
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I think I read something like this about cunty girls who call out game in Le Chateau archives. It went something like this: “cool, now that the cats out of the bag lets get down to business and get drinks at x”….maybe that’s a bit too wordy, but you get the idea. Agree and amplify. That seems to make the most sense in this situation. The key is NOT to engage in a logical argument with them as it is not conducive to your goal of swift sexxytime with her, and it will lead you on a wild goose chase around a circle that leads to nowhere. I’d say agree and amplify instead of acting clueless or arguing that you don’t use game on girls or of game’s immorality. That’s exactly what the girls expects you to do.
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You’re full of shit that “30-50%” of girls on OKCupid are aware of game concepts such as negging and DHV. I know this because >90% of the girls I got responses from on there were too dumb to even recognize an attempt at sarcasm or wit, and I went out of my way to message only girls with decently written profiles. If I said something on the sillier side, I usually got a “what lol i dont understand” type response, and something on the tamer side was usually taken literally and steered toward a canned interview type convo. Online dating is the worst environment imaginable for game, as only the words themselves are conveyed, with their meanings left to the interpretations of a vapid and disinterested reader with a couple hundred other messages to sift through at any given time.
As a sidenote which validates CH’s teachings, I did eventually meet my current gf on OKC… she claims she never even looked through my photos before our date, and agreed to meet me because I sent witty messages and didn’t complement her. Lessons learned: (1) Women really don’t care about our looks nearly as much as we care about theirs, and (2) They really are repelled by the pathetic pussy worship most men believe is necessary.
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Online dating is in fact a DLV …
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oh yeah
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Yeah, agreed.
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Always remember, on online dating sites, that “girl” you’re chatting up, there’s a very good chance she’s actually a fat dude. That’s what I’d go with. Flip the script and accuse her of being a fat dude.
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Drop the “bish”, it sounds like something a 16-year-old whigger would say.
[CH: The mood struck. Deal.]
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Put a period where you put the comma and start a new sentence with “It.” You write like a woman.
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I like bish. Sounds funny.
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Agreed. I chuckled every time. But I can see it getting old if used too much.
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me 2. Takes the edge off “bitch” – shows something supposedly fearsome into the sad joke it really is.
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my bish doesn’t let me call her bitch anymore so i call her bish.
say that 10 times.
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i’m a bish, hear me rore!
yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp yielp
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halle berry? or hallelujiah!?
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16 year old wigger faggot
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You made me have to pull it out again… it is scary how often I have to drop it here.
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Heh.
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Oh cool a list of negs. I’m at the point where I need to start using those….
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I have spoken with American females in their 20’s openly say they plan to get free drinks from chumps. I ask, “What will you give them in return?.” They say, proudly, “Nothing.” I say, “I wouldn’t buy you a drink if you held a gun to my head.”
the guys who are still buying drinks for these douchebags are perpetuating the problem. Men have gone on marriage strike; they need to go on free drink strike too. And of course on beta orbiter strike — permanently.
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I’ve heard many women admit this as well. They have the same regard for interested men as most people have for used car salesman. Maybe you wouldn’t feel too awful about showing up to the dealership, feasting on freebies and promptly leaving… but to do the equivalent to a specific human being, who as far as you know harbors benevolent intentions toward you, takes unbelievable indifference toward others.
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I like getting girls to get drinks for me from the chumps who want to buy them free drinks. I used to know a girl who had massive fake tits, and didn’t drink very much….. She could get me several free drinks in an evening.
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“Are you on your period?” is so played and frayed I wouldn’t even recommend trying to launch that one ironically.
Plus…friendly warning…don’t ask questions you don’t want to hear the answers to.
Because some of us are happy to answer. Personally, if anyone asks me that one, I take a special joy in unleashing a mighty flood of crimson prose and clotted detail. A sanguine tide of information, creeping slowly up the beach of your mind’s eye as the gravity of the moon brings the waves closer and closer.
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Dad loves it when we’re menstruating. And if you gave him better bj ‘s, he might let you borrow the car sometimes like me.
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I’m convinced ur my ex.
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You’ve said this before, Grim, and now you’ve got me wondering.
What color were her eyes?
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It’s not a neg. I have been forced to say this matter of factly to every woman I’ve been with because the craziness is real.
It’s like a demon possessed your brain and that’s probably where that idea comes from in biblical times.
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My wife can be crazy any time of the month. So after a while the question becomes irrelevant.
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nah, don’t ever ask if she’s menstruating. Much better–when she’s pawing at me, shit testing, being feisty, so I probingly question:
“Are YOU ovulating?”
*she blushes.* “….Maybe.”
Me: “Well, you know the only way for me to tell is to check.”
Cue me putting my hands in her yoga pants, to check for cervical mucus the consistency of egg whites.
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That’s an interesting one to ponder. I have no clue if this is a good thing or a bad thing from a game perspective, but whenever I encounter that game, I just keep going right along.
“Are you on your period?”
“Yes. I think I just dropped a giant blood clot into my panties.”
“Is it a big one, covered in slimy mucus?”
“Yes, it’s extremely slimy and sticky.”
“So it’s like a giant twat hocker then. Wow. I’m glad I have a penis!”
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That’s pretty much the best way you could handle something like that. Just grab the ball and run with it until she starts laughing.
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the wife was cooking pancakes this morning with the kids still sleeping upstairs. Right before I left, I told her to come here. I inserted my hand down her pants and assured her that I wasn’t going to do anything crazy. I inserted a finger in her, removed it and rubbed it on my mustashe stubble, and said, “Thanks,” as I closed the door. Of course she ranted and raved, “I can’t believe you did that blah blah blah,” but what I did was way more exciting than those pancakes.
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…and this is why I don’t kiss people hello, Euro-style.
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Do you shake hands?
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You have no reason not to kiss people just because they eat pancakes!
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@Glengarry: Yes, but I keep a supply of this handy:
http://www.blueq.com/shop/item/229-productId.125845905_229-catId.117440744.html
@ newly aloof: I larfed. Yes, I did.
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That’d make a lovely gift to a friend. He’d sneer ostentatiously, but he’d keep it.
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Have to try that.
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Whoa, that last line – vaginal TB. Tell her you’ll buy some Christmas Seals.
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“Did you do sports in high school? You look just like one of my friends who played softball back in the day.” Good thing about this line is that she won’t know if your friend is a slim outfielder or fat catcher.
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or a carpet muncher.
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Exactly.
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Thanks for this! I’ve used a few of these lines.
This list reminds me of those pencil-necked progressives and SWPLs who publish lists of fascists and neo-nazis nobody’s ever heard of, unintentionally providing free publicity for these individuals.
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they do that because they want people to assume those people exist and to label and negate entire groups of people under the “Nazi”
label which has an entire group of images that it invokes in the mind and then are applied to those people but even the prison show on the tv that followed some they didn’t really kill more than a few people and they were dragging the bottom of barrel to find the supposed worse ones and really they weren’t that bad
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Usually I have to hold off on saying it, but if I don’t at some point say ‘relax, I was kidding, get over yourself’, the girls get offended and hurt. Sometimes they cry to me or they write me these long texts down the line about how much of an asshole I am and how they won’t talk to me anymore if I keep being so rude to them.
Does this mean my negs are too insulting and not ambiguous enough? Or am I just dealing with over-sensitive girls? I mostly only kick it with attractive party girls who go to the clubs at least every other weekend.
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Shit tests
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Lol, if she’s really hurt and offended she won’t send you long texts about how mean you are and threaten to stop talking to you…. she’ll just stop talking to you.
For every couple asshole things you do, throw in a little warmth. Then you can get away with a few more asshole things.
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stick your finger in my azzhole best of both worlds babe
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No, don’t apologize. But at some point, throw in a little stupid romantic gesture.
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I like.
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Ask her if giving her flowers and writing poetry will make her feel better.
Then get down on one knee and do an over-the-top poem about tapping that ass.
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If on strange shores
from fables told
I found some time to pass
rest assured, my dear sweet flower
I’d want to tap your ass
Were birds to swim
and fish to fly
and bottles not be made of glass
no matter how upside down the world
I’d want to tap your ass
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These lines should be collected into a single line of interrogatives.
Imagine some girl just brought you a home-cooked meal.
“You look really tired: don’t take this the wrong way, but you remind me of my mom. How much do you weigh? Are you on your period? I mean, look at what you’re wearing. You might be able to fit into something much slimmer. Your sister is so hot, and you have a pretty face, but your hair looks much better than hers. Anyway, you still hungry? Why are you freaking out? I mean, didn’t you wear that last week? Damn, you ask a lot of questions. Never mind; I dunno if I trust your cooking. No, it’s not you, it’s me. Wait; is that your real hair? Don’t be mad! I was just kidding! Seriously, though, are you sick? You’re acting crazy and full of feelings. Calm down!.”
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WARNING: Hamster implosion imminent.
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Brilliant!
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Ziiing!
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Me: “You look tired.”
Her: “You should never say that to a woman.” storms off
Her (3 hours later): “Ssllluurrpp.”
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“Hey, you look like you’re originally from London/Detroit/Mogadishu”
“Yes/No, how did you know/why do you say that?”
“Meh, you’ve got that sort of debauched look”
Grins and eye’s her knowingly. It’s worked for me before.
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Most women where I live don’t know the meaning of the word debauched.
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Then, just tell her she look’s like she’s been spunked over a few times.
(probably best to sport a pair of shin pads under your stride’s for that one tho.)
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Is there a difference between a neg and a shit test?
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A shit test is when a woman sees how fit you are by trying to fuck with your state (and to break her own excited state sometimes). Takes many forms.
A neg is a subtle DQ that generates interest because it comes across as ‘wow, this guy isn’t phased by my beauty etc.’
My understanding, anyway.
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It’s apparent that you haven’t the slightest idea about the concept of “game.”
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We aren’t born knowing it. Asking and reading, and trying, is how we learn.
Scray gave the standard (therefore probably correct) answer about how negs work. But I have a different view. I don’t know how to tell which is right, or if it even matters.
I think any female is attracted by default to any male. Sorry girls, you cannot stop it. This is why when you’re on girls’ night out, you are discussing us. Guys can fuck up so bad they disqualify themselves, and shit-tests are probing questions to stimulate self-disqualification. But realizing this, all a guy has to do is skate across this stuff. The most important thing is not to prove you’re alpha. All you have to do is avoid proving you’re beta.
So how do you spend three minutes talking to a girl and avoid coming across as beta? One way, not the only one but a convenient one, is a gentle insult, even an ambiguous insult. Since the girl is attracted (you have not disqualified yourself) she’ll take a lot of shit and hang around for more.
And indeed, the insult sexualizes things, by proving to her that you’re the boss. After all, you just insulted her and there’s nothing she can do, she’s still with you! This puts her in the subordinate position, where she belongs for things to develop sexually, and puts you in alpha position with respect to her.
It’s not a matter of the girl’s pride. Girls don’t have so much pride! How can a vagina, a weak receptive thing that bleeds monthly, be proud? Even hot girls, you only think they have pride because they intimidate you. And if you act intimidated, they’ll act proud. But they have all the usual female insecurities, and they too are automatically attracted to any male, even a loser ugly male, until and unless he disqualifies himself. On the other hand, they cannot pay attention to 10 guys at once, so getting facetime initially can be an issue.
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“I think any female is attracted by default to any male.”
No way.
[CH: That’s right, but every man should *act* like any woman is attracted to him.]
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” All you have to do is avoid proving you’re beta.”
This is fuck-up avoidance game. And it only works when you already have value to the girl.
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I have never heard “fuck-up avoidance game” and I’m not sure what it means. That she’ll pull you into bed with her if you do nothing but avoid fuckups? No you still have to move toward the finish line.
But with an alpha attitude and a couple of keywords in mind (push-pull, a bit of kino) it’s hard to forget how to do that. There’s always room for improvement, but once attracted girls will give a ton of latitude, they want you to win. Make a mistake, fine. Just don’t go beta.
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‘That she’ll pull you into bed with her if you do nothing but avoid fuckups? No you still have to move toward the finish line.’
If she presumes you’re alpha, then all you have to do is avoid demonstrating that you’re beta = Fuck-up Avoidance game. And ya, you have to move toward the finish line, but she’s kind of pulling you too mostly.
For example, a male 9 in looks who approaches a female 7 in looks will just need to avoid fuck-ups. He’s obviously (by appearance) more valuable than her. She will fuck him as long as he doesn’t become a sniveling beta.
A male 7 in looks approaching a female 7 in looks enjoys no such presumption. So nah, it’s less about avoiding appearing beta — she assumes you’re beta — and showing that you are alpha.
There -is- a difference.
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I’ve gotten a lot of traction out of fuck-up avoidance game, which I’m taking as an indication that my value is more apparent than I tend to think it is.
This is encouraging, actually.
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“Were you in a hurry this morning? Did u forget to put on makeup?”
Is solid on an 8 or up.
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That’s rough, man. So she says fuck you. Then you must have a followup ready.
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Followup: [mock scandalized voice] “Please. We’ve barely been introduced”
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Well played
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Yes, I like it. 🙂
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solid 8 and up eat this shit alive. vegas 8.
no follow up just a smirk and a “i’ll love you forever if you forgive me for that, i get kinda mean when i drink” especially when you are holding an iced tea or a water bottle. (shows capacity to not give a shit but no culpability for not giving a shit…..does he care…blah blah)
works like a charm and i never get a fuck you.
you gotta seriously amp up the attraction/comfort balance to it’s extremes with really hot girls but it’s not for a learner. more advanced. not merely giving her a roller coaster of emotion, but an f-16 ride. lot of mean followed by a lot of comfort, rinse repeat until you can successfully balance it out and drop the energy level to a more normal interaction. takes about 5 min. at the 1 min mark you are watching like a hawk for preening or the 3 sirens.
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Don’t take this the wrong way, but….. are you on your period?
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Great post.
I used a version of this one: “You remind me of my mom.”
After a woman straightened my collar on the dance floor, I said, “Thanks, mom.” I’m not heading for her friend zone anytime soon, lol. It was a legitimate thank you, funny, and a challenge, packaged as a neg. Laconic, too.
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LOL – and I mean I seriously laughed out loud. This is gold. From the mouths of babes I guess.
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“Nice jeans! What size are they?”
(after she answers)
“Thanks…they’d look good on my girlfriend and she’s a bit smaller. Wanted to make sure I got the right size.”
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You would just come off as being really baffling and dickish – and not in the right way – if you went up to a random girl and said that. Think about it, no normal person would say that to someone they stopped on a street. You want to drain her confidence a bit and make her reply in defense….not have her stare you down and tell you to fuck off.
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I see number 1 is “You look tired.” Too funny. These happen to be the very first words I ever uttered to the woman who would become my wife. She mentioned this on our first date (I barely remembered saying it) and would bring this up for years afterwards.
Too bad for my wallet I couldn’t keep this verbal talent up with the crazy bitch for year after year, decade after decade.
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I’ve use a couple of these back when I was with my ex who was an Ani di Franco loving, Women Who Run With the Wolves reading, alpha male hating cunt. I’ll relish forever the fury in her eyes when, having come home from a 12 hour shift in a weld shop to hear her unload on me all of the days make-believe stories of infidelity, partying, or fucking my boss insanity that her hamster could conjure, and finally when I could get a word in I asked, “did you start your period today”?
I’m dead serious when I say that she would remember shit I said 7 years ago and if I contradicted myself, it made her angry. Always telling me that personal growth is what makes a man great and when I changed she would go full Fuckin psycho. Hell, the last time I spoke to her which was last month she said, “do you remember when I first told you I was pregnant you said ‘oh my gawd I’ve ruined your life.'” My child is 11 this year and we split up 3 years ago. She still remembers that shit. At that time, she was getting up in my face because my 2nd car which she had been driving, was broke down and in her indignation was demanding that I get her one that works.
Women like her are just like hogs at a feeding trough. Just squealing and snorting and getting fat on the hard work of others. Which reminds me, she hasn’t had a job since her last trimester of pregnancy. Of course she thought that I should pay her for doing the housework. “If you had to pay a cook, a babysitter, a cleaning service, a laundry service, blah blah blah.” I would tell her, if you want to make money then get a real job. She would say “do you know how lucky you are that you get to go to work instead of staying home?” I could always shut her up with “I’ll gladly stay home if you can find a job making as much money as I make.”
I used to feel bad for her for her situation in life but she’s been in CBT for 3 decades talking about the same shit and is to fuckin stupid to see that if you want a wound to heal, picking at the scab every goddamn day is the wrong way to do it.
I’m glad we never got married. Not that I didn’t ask. Used to piss her off that I had health insurance through work and she didn’t. She actually hated me for it.
Her- “Why haven’t you asked me to marry you? Don’t you love me?”
I don’t like the idea of marriage.
Me 3 months later- “Will you marry me?”
Her- “You’re only asking me because I want you to!” Runs off crying. Repeat every year.
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> “but she’s been in CBT for 3 decades talking about the same shit”
CBT???
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=CBT
> “My child is 11 this year and we split up 3 years ago.”
Please tell me you have custody.
PLEASE.
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He means Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which is actually pretty common-sensical stuff examining the things you tell yourself and how they produce emotions. I.E., if you tell yourself you’re worthless, you’ll actually feel worthless and turn into a beta.
It’s pretty much replaced the Freudian garbage.
Not that there aren’t any feminists into BDSM. A lot of them are subs, though.
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> “Cognitive Behavioral Therapy”
Okay, right, I remember that now.
That’s the shit that they try to use on the bitches with the Borderline Personality Disorder.
I read about that in the “Eggshells” book.
Sounds like it did fuck all of good on his ex-girlfriend.
And if she is full blown clinically-verified Borderline, then it is IMPERATIVE that he get custody of the poor child.
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Easier said than done.
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To elaborate: I don’t know what state you live in, but in many of them (possibly most), unless the mother is literally a psychotic crack-whore, if she wants custody, she will get it, because… she’s the mom!
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We didn’t need to go through the court system because we weren’t married. I kicked her out of the state, she took the child, I agreed to child support terms (slightly less than what the state would order. Why? Because I can.) I still have visitation every other day and weekends. Custody is a bit of a moot point for now other than I would save a few bucks every week.
As far as her diagnosis goes, I don’t know if she is clinically Borderline even if her therapist treats her as though she is. Even going so far as to suggest she admit herself to a hospital for treatment. But instead she’s opted to martyr herself to show me how fucked up she is because of me. One of the things I used to hear all the time was, “If I tried to kill myself you wouldn’t do anything to stop me. If you come home from work and I’m laying in the bathtub dead with my wrists cut, then you’ll be sorry. Then you’ll wish you would’ve helped me.” I would never respond to empty threats. Perhaps I was silently daring her to do it.
I’m to blame for her crazy. “Are you crazy?” “Only because you made me this way!” Yep, just like a femcunt to never take responsibility for anything. EVERYTHING is always somebody else’s fault. She would never apologize for anything. She would just shift the blame onto me, or her mom or her dad, or her friends or her old church or the next door neighbor or the girl at the drive-thru window at McDonalds who “…was the kind of girl you always like to look at and I know if you would’ve been there you would’ve made eyes with her and she would know that you wanna fuck her instead of me so now I’m fucking mad at you for wanting to have sex with her in my fantasies.”
I’m putting this out there as a warning to you younger guys: Yes, there really are women out there who are this cray-cray. Or worse. If you find one, even though she might have the best pussy you’ve had, you must RUN. RUN. RUN. FAR. FAR. AWAY. FAST.
I could probably have her committed fairly easily though I’m not sure if it’s my place to try. Opinions?
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“Her- “Why haven’t you asked me to marry you? Don’t you love me?”
I don’t like the idea of marriage.
Me 3 months later- “Will you marry me?”
Her- “You’re only asking me because I want you to!” Runs off crying. Repeat every year.”
Sounds like a high speed hazmat train wreck. Here’s a tip for the future though: Don’t make that offer twice. Under pressure, there’s always “I already asked and you turned me down; I’ve moved on.”
Bonus. An even better tip, originally for court but it fits marriage too: Never ask a question you don’t know the answer to.
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You can’t be a patriarch alone, Nomennovum, nor civilized for that matter. Bros before hoes = women’s socio-survival instincts inhibiting women’s socio-reproductive instincts, and thus their their civilized (mainly reproductive) utility is guarded, conserved, and rewarded. No patriarchy, no commitment value.
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Um, CH, thanks for the credit to me for finding this. You’re welcome, dude.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/07/overheard-in-redacted/
“FamilyMan
22 Great Negs, unintentionally suggested by a female
http://www.hercampus.com/life/entertainment/22-things-you-should-never-say-girl“
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+1
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bish, definition : a cross between a fish and a bicycle, not gender specific
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excellent.
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“a man needs a bish like a fish needs a bicycle”
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Wow. “Don’t say these things because they evoke a strong emotional response.” It’s like finding the other team’s playbook. I will field test them all and get back to you, maybe.
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“You have a lot of feelings” made me laugh out loud for some reason.
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“Don’t take this the wrong way, but…”
Women say shit like this all the time.
“Calm down.”
Well, calm the fuck down and we won’t say it. I frequently say “Relax” and it has the same effect. But it’s like — fucking chill out already.
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http://www.fredoneverything.net/Frost.shtml
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I’m doubly depressed now. MGTOW looks better and better. The bitch can’t even get the word ‘stimulus’ right, and she’s ivy league. Half pull-up Sally is a Marine too. And I must waste away unemployed simply because I can’t stand people. Beats sadistic execution by farm cubicle.
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The original article is an amusing read. The author’s responses to these so called ‘things you shouldn’t say’ are revealing. Take for example her response to
“10. “You’re still hungry? You know what? Yes, I am. And I am going to inhale this entire Footlong and not feel bad about it.”
It’s similar to, say, when men say they like long hair. The consistent reply is to say something like ‘oh, yea, well now I’m going to chop it all off just to show you.” It always reminds me of a petulant child daring her father to discipline her for doing something wrong. The thing is, if someone doesn’t care, then they don’t care, no need to prove anything to anyone. You can only ‘rebel’ against someone you already see as an authority figure. It would seem that subconsciously they see men naturally as the authority, hence the rebellion.
“5. Are you wearing that?
Well, I was going to… until you said that. Congrats, now you have to wait two more hours while I find another outfit that you’re probably going to hate. ”
Yea, now I ‘have’ to.
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Awhile back on here (or maybe in one of CH’s twitter links) this very topic was analyzed in depth. A high status man will simply say something like “I like slim women,” “I like blondes,” “I like firm breasts,” etc. And inevitably, angry women will respond with “Oh, so now you’re telling me I have to starve myself, dye my hair blonde, and get a boob job? I’m fine just the way I am! Blah blah blah,” as if his statement of preferences was an individually targeted, coercive order. Can anyone link to this discussion?
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They use this on RoK to great effect. Someone writes an article, like say “11 reasons feminists are crazy” and then the waves of crazy come crashing down their shores proving the point.
Angrily yelling “I DON’T CARE” pretty much makes the point to the opposite.
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“It’s similar to, say, when men say they like long hair. The consistent reply is to say something like ‘oh, yea, well now I’m going to chop it all off just to show you.””
“I like it when girls have two eyes too. Think about it. Here’s a fork.”
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Off topic.
Turns out my definition was too “edgy” for Urban Dictionary.
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SWPL
SWPL = Self hating White Pussified Liberal
20 something freshly indoctrinated leftard: “You suck straight white male taxpayer coz patriarchy/misogyny/rayciss!!
Average right thinking civilization builder: “Ah another SWPL””
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hey newbs: use these in a friendly yet playful asshole manner on the hottest chicks you can find.. see if a few dont seriously view you in a way that you havent been viewed before.
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I bet Heartiste is an Aries.
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Lololzolozlolz
Russian curling team does maxim style photo shoot in lingerie then complains “we are world class athletes first them pretty girls”
Loloxlolololzlz
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/anna-sidorova-now-wants-to-turn-heads-with-her-curling-132937978.html
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/11/thought-police-firms-must-swear-obamacare-not-factor-in-firings/
“Obama officials made clear in a press briefing that firms would not be allowed to lay off workers to get into the preferred class of those businesses with 50 to 99 employees. How will the feds know what employers were thinking when hiring and firing? Simple. Firms will be required to certify to the IRS – under penalty of perjury – that ObamaCare was not a motivating factor in their staffing decisions.”
Socialism will work if we just send a few more economic criminals to the gulag, I swear!
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This is absolutely fucking retarded. Under what circumstances does an employer to have to make a sworn statement to IRS when dismissing an employee? Does it apply to firings already done or when does it kick in?
But the article makes a good point. It will stop these employers from saying publicly, or even to employees being fired, that it’s because of Obamacare. It will keep the Obamacare messages happy happy happy!
Incredibly insidious, actually. Shit like this is evil, and it won’t save jobs either.
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after 1/2 dates: Me: I had a very nice dream..
She: immediately: oh really? Tell me about it:
Me: Come up with some funny shit not involving her
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Church girl I’m banging now shit-tested me. She wanted to go out Valentine’s Day and I was busy so arranged to meet Thursday which she agreed to.
She then sent a late late text saying Thursday wouldn’t work because she has plans and since I was not free Friday what could we do.
Me: hmmmm making plans then canceling what am I to think about that?
This was a kind of experiment. Based on previous experiences with my now ex the soft-nexting and going off the grid didn’t work so well when she canceled dates. Neither did direct confrontation.
So this idea here of throwing out a question to get her hamster spinning was something I thought I’d throw out.
her response was interesting…I got a reply in 2 seconds:
Her: nahhhhhhh I didn’t mean it I want to make more plans with you
bunch of sad face icons. then qualification about why she couldn’t come etc etc
then “don’t be mad I’m so innocent”
I waited like 6 hours and replied with some non-sequitor but no mention of a reschedule.
She proposed rescheduling, I said Wednesday and she agreed.
This: ‘you did xxx what am I to think?” Worked.
I think also context is important. This is not a bar chick. This is your typical entitled princess type chick who isn’t so experienced with blokes, fairly sexy and attractive but used to guys pedestalizing or caving in to her.
Setting the frame early: ie “I’m no pushover” was a learning from past situations.
I leave it to you guys to chime in.
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> “Church girl I’m banging now shit-tested me.”
Is there enough material to work with here so that you could get something serious out of this chick – like a bunch of children?
I tell you, though, this idea of two people fornicating but NOT being able to find time in one anothers’ lives to meet on a regular basis – that is some weird, weird, weird shit to me.
I mean, seriously, WTF in life is more important than sexy time with your lover?
At least until you start having kids [and then the kids become more important].
“Oh, I’d come over and fornicate with you, but I really have to go shopping at the mall with my sorority sisters first, and then we have to do the Susan G Komen for the Cure 5K Fundraiser Walk, and then we have to volunteer at the Soup Kitchen for our mandatory community service credits to get a Bachelor of Arts in Femcunt Theory, and then we have to go back to the mall and do some more shopping, and then I have to pick up my Little Sister from Da Hood and take her to buy some clothes because her Mom got sent back to prison for violating parole and her Great Aunt who is taking care of her now doesn’t have any money for proper school clothes, etc etc etc” – that shit is simply bizarre to me.
Unless, as YaReally and thwack and Scray would point out, she’s having sexy time with some OTHER lover…
But these busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, busy as a bee lifestyles are simply poisonous.
Life is too short for that nonsense.
All this excess and these choices and this technology tends to drive people insane.
Simplify your life if for no other reason than that the simplification of it allows you to live a proper life.
Rather than suffering as a slave to your cell phone, and a slave to consumerism, and a slave to fashion, and a slave to society, and a slave to the system, and a slave to the man.
Fuck that shit.
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>this idea of two people fornicating but NOT being able to find time
Spot on….. These women either have another lover or they just like to create some kind of emotion, disappointment, anger, etc.. (so she’s an attention whore)
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Or, in her defense, she’s getting sucked into a death-spiral vortex of time-wasting insanity and she hasn’t yet engaged in some self-reflective contemplation and stepped back a few hundred yards and tried to concentrate on seeing the forest for the trees.
If, deep down inside, walawala is starting to think that he might be developing some feelings for this chick, and he might be wanting to start getting serious with her [BY PUTTING SOME BUNS IN HER OVEN], then he ought to “Game” his way [i.e. gently lead her via the power of his evil serpent’s forked tongue] through to a realization that she is unwittingly allowing the nihilism of modernity [cell phone addiction, activity addiction, socializing addiction, shopping addiction, choice addiction, certification/edumakashun addiction, etc etc etc] to destroy her.
And that if she really is a “church girl”, then she needs to get back to living a much simpler lifestyle, concentrating on the basics of Life: Love of God, Love of Family, Love of Her Man, Making Love with Her Man, Making Children with Her Man, Giving Thanks to God for allowing her to have Children with Her Man, etc etc etc.
And to hell with all of that other shit.
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Huh?
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Outstanding post Zombie.
“At least until you start having kids [and then the kids become more important].”
This I have issue with. For most modern women, kids do NOT become more important, their careers do. Would that kids were still the focus of most women these days instead of their god damned useless chatter chatter fake positions created by other women “careers”.
Outside of that, spot on post. As you said, fuck that shit.
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when society finally and necessarily collapses, your preferred reality will exist.
until then, you gotta operate within the bounds of the reality you have. you can wish it away and fight it all you want and it doesn’t matter.
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It’s not either or as you suggest.
The willow bends with the wind while the rock stays planted firm. Depending on the weather at hand, both can prove useful things to model oneself after.
In a day and age of rampant e-stupidity and out of control conformity to female inspired idiocy, being the rebellious masculine rock on the shore can prove quite alluring. In the same sense, during times of solid social conservatism, being the rogue random rebellious swag can garner you the vaunted ‘tang.
Since I usually am the masculine rock on the shore, and I get as much as I want from women, I can say assuredly that there is no need to go along to get along as you suggest. It’s all dependent on context.
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reading comprehension not your strong suit eh?
Burn wrote:
“I can say assuredly that there is no need to go along to get along as you suggest.”
based on what I wrote:
“until then, you gotta operate within the bounds of the reality you have. ”
dum dum. “operating” isn’t conforming, its adaptation and profiting from said adaptation.
you’ve been chewing on the urinal cakes again. one more time, they only SMELL like cinnamon.
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If all you have are inane insults, I’ve already won.
“adaptation and profiting from said adaptation” is conforming, chief. When Burger King comes out with an identical burger to McDonalds and calls it a Big King, they are adapting and profiting from said adaption, aka, they are conforming precisely to what the market is demanding, a Big Mac, ergo, profit. The motivation behind the conforming are irrelevant, the end result is the same. A distinction without a difference is where you’re hanging your hat.
You want to pretend to be an outlier, when all you preach is conformity dressed in different words and then sneer and snarl at any who don’t conform to your definitions (heh). Sorry guy, it doesn’t work that way. If conforming to the norm in others eyes profits you, great, but let’s not pretend that you’re anything but a conformist who preaches adherence to the collective zeitgeist in order to get pussy.
Aside from that, word of advice, lay off the juvenile posturing, it detracts from your attempts to deliver a message. Catty name calling is for broads.
Slainte.
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god its just paragraphs on end of the same recycled zealotry. you, zombie shane, Matt King, Arbiter. ever noticed how the guys trying to “save” civilization just can’t help but endlessly persuade you with their tireless prose and logic that somehow everything that a thinking man knows, sees, and touches is just wrong!
you win. where can i pick up my membership card and the embroidered team yarmulke. Wonderpets to the rescue!
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She was trying to punish you for not making plans with her on Valentine’s Day. But she caved.
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@Amy Yes.
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This. You did good by not falling into her frame and failing the shit-test. Props!
Her offering a reschedule is a huge ioi. A shitty flake is when they flake and don’t apologize, that girl isn’t interested and is probably a waste of time or needs some more high-octane emotional game played on her. Slightly better is when they flake but apologize, that girl is interested but needs some work but should still be do-able. The best is when they flake, apologize, and offer a reschedule. That’s pretty much on like donkey kong.
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Speak for yourself. Mom used to walk down the street and randomly hit guys in the balls with her purse, then stand there laughing about it. She was something like Kathy Bates in “Misery” combined with Nancy Parsons as Balbricker in “Porky’s.”
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Neg?
chick: have your girl do that
me need you lickin too babe
chick not gonna happen only me
me well only you lick me right now
chick don’t have vehicle but I will not have a man who has other girls
me come down visit shell cook for us
chick no thanks I still don’t have vehicle
me k
is the only you lick me right now a neg lol
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I guess when a chick eats shit to be with you she serious lol
she came into some loot getting me some chicks today I broke her to the saddle the circle is almost complete
bought me flowers got some early valentines goin on
buying me the hotel bed I want
took a lot of work though
he he he
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Neg to girls when there is some age gap:
A pity you are too young. The police would put me in jail.
Hamster in overdrive and that starts her need for showing you that she in fact is not that young, that she is mature and you HAVE to want to be with her like everyone else
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biggest nuke neg ever
I don’t want to fuck you anymore
neg or just soul crushing
turns out I still want to fuck her though
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all her power up in smoke in one line
though
ownage
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“You remind me of my little sister, she’s fucked over every man in her life too”
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Uhh, the problem there is that you’ve framed it so that the little sister appears to have the upper hand.
Try to re-frame it so that the men in the little sister’s life have the upper hand.
“You remind me of my little sister, she’s been pumped and dumped by every man in her life too.”
Or: “You remind me of one of my ex-stepmoms – my Dad’s third wife – the latest rumor I heard is that she’s in rehab now for the umpteenth time and even Obamacare is balking at the idea of continuing to pay for it.”
Something which makes the men look strong, and the women look weak.
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Disagree. Look at the frame again, Shane – a woman never wants to leave the impression of a “bad person” in anyone’s mind. Most importantly her own because…you know…it’s a Hallmark world and she could never hurt anyone.
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Never? I agree there’s at least that superficial motivation not to hurt anyone, that’s probably how she talks to her girlfriends.
But when it comes down to the nub, she’ll hurt anyone except for maybe her kids, if the alternative is even a small cost to her.
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> “turns out I still want to fuck her though”
C’mon man, up the ante here.
Get serious.
Start putting some buns in her oven.
Chicks that you actually enjoy spending time with simply do NOT walk into your life every day.
And as you get older, it’s gonna become harder and harder to find ANY chicks AT ALL whom you enjoy spending time with.
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And as you get older, it’s gonna become harder and harder to find ANY chicks AT ALL whom you enjoy spending time with.”
Mmm maybe. Are you talking reduced opportunity (e.g. exposure to the girls you like) or just the fact that being older makes guys choosier?
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“or just the fact that being older makes guys choosier?”
I can’t speak for Zombie, but for me, that’s the case.
My ability to tolerate inane chatter and nearly illiterate levels of stupidity kind of filter out a lot of girls who, were I 18 again, would pass muster. Youth seems to be far more forgiving of stupidity since, presumably, when one is young one is also spouting a great deal of stupidity to others.
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> “Mmm maybe. Are you talking reduced opportunity (e.g. exposure to the girls you like) or just the fact that being older makes guys choosier?”
Both.
Very early on, the truly smart dudes grab the nice girls from the good families and make them their wives until death do them part.
Which means that the older you get, the fewer truly nice girls there are to hit on, and you keep having to go younger and younger and younger to find a chick with a good heart.
At some point, being 45-years-old and hitting on 17-year-old high school seniors is gonna start raising some eyebrows [and might just get your ass murdered by some girl’s father].
Even the best of Alphas ain’t in his prime forever.
There comes a time when you have to start thinking about settling down and perpetuating your family in The Tree of Life:
And I’ll say it again: It is not every day that you meet a chick you really enjoy spending time with.
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“At some point, being 45-years-old and hitting on 17-year-old high school seniors is gonna start raising some eyebrows [and might just get your ass murdered by some girl’s father].”
only if she is mexican.
90% of the time the dad is a fucking herb and a checkbook, the mom is only pissed cause she ain’t banging ya and is cockblocking the daughter subconsciously (so be really flirty with mom, but subtle ya know?) and everyone in this girls life totally gets it (if you are high enough value to attract her in the first place).
the only people who are pissed are the religious white knight civilization savers or the fat chick not getting the D.
life is simple.
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Saying “calm down” never calmed anybody down, but for teasing someone it works.
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“Don’t be mad; I was just kidding!”
A derivation of this can work, but it must be crafty as an admonishment. Instead, in a sly voice ask “where is your sense of humor?”
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Just a reminder that some inanimate objects get more action than beta males:
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I don’t know. Looks like she’s on the fence on that one.
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Today’s hyperverbal woman loves nothing more than to talk. Feminist society has taught her that everything she thinks and says is fascinating and important and must be shared with the world. Look at TV ads for dating sites. Most feature a couple on a date in which the female is yakking up a storm and the beta is raptly lapping up every word with a look of utter delight on his smooth round face. Unfortunately, this results in women talking way too much and even worse, interrupting constantly. So my favorite neg is to say “be quiet” or “don’t talk for a second” or “stop interrupting”. Women never hear this and you should see the look of confusion and wounded-ness on their faces when you say it. They try to act hurt or insulted but I’ve never had one cancel a date, leave my house or otherwise stop seeing me because of it. Women hate to admit it, but they love it when a man installs some boundaries. Try it. Silence is golden.
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Hush woman… The men are talking.
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Used a decent one this weekend.
Gathering at a friends, firepit out back, music etc… His girlfriends friend comes by for a drink, she starts complaining about the Pandora station… Jay-Z or something I think.
I asked, “What would you rather listen to?” I had never met this girl or said anything to her before that except “My name’s christian, glad you could make it”… She’d been there about 10 minutes, very cute. 7 easy.. She pulls out her phone and says… “I have a good playlist on my phone I like…” I get up and come around behind her, she had a pink bedazzled gemstone case on her phone… I lean in and say, “I can tell by the case on your phone i’m not going to like any of the music in there”….. pause, then walk back to my chair, sit down and take a drink.
kiss close later, Got her number, FB, etc
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Nice. Just when she was expecting some beta … whack!
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Bishes gonna bish.
Sloots gonna sloot.
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Ha it’s HerCampus. By the way, these lines don’t mean anything. It’s all about how you deliver the playful tease.
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Me: You have an uneven body
Her: why do you say that?
Me: your tits are too big for your body
Me : unless you have it stuffed then its all good
Neg?
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Yeah and she’ll be confused. Does she qualify to you that they’re fake? Oh, to have a man’s reasoning powers at a time like that!
Pretty good, I like it.
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[…] At yet another internet portal leading to a giant flapping angry vagina, a bitchy woman reveals, unintentionally, hilariously, a list of 22 excellent negs, teases, challenges, and disqualifications that would work very well as pick-up tactics. […]
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These are actually amazing negs lol
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[…] know that many Christian men read Heartiste, and there was a post a couple days ago on a list of “negs” that a woman unintentionally made. Here’s the first 6 from that […]
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#8 is not a neg, it just means she’s a pretty-faced fatso.
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