The Lost Ark of the human sciences, intelligence genes, has been found and opened, and the faces of Universalist Equalists are melting into a bloody pulp. Researchers have pinpointed a single gene which, in its high-functioning variant, directly contributes to higher intelligence.
Researchers have found that teenagers who had a highly functioning NPTN gene performed better in intelligence tests.
It is thought the NPTN gene indirectly affects how the brain cells communicate and may control the formation of the cerebral cortex, the outermost layer of the human brain, also known as ‘grey matter.’ […]
Teens with an underperforming NPTN gene did less well in intelligence tests. […]
They found that, on average, teenagers carrying a particular gene variant had a thinner cortex in the left cerebral hemisphere, particularly in the frontal and temporal lobes, and performed less well on tests for intellectual ability.
The walls are closing in on the lords of lies and their feels army of emotabots. Soon, very soon, they will have nowhere to hide nor any shadowed mental crevice left to dissemble. They will be faced with a stark choice: Capitulate, or self-deliver on the altar of their monstrous, deformed egos.
I foresee an end to the current Leftoid Regime playing out as one of two scenarios: Whole-hearted (and back-rationalized) embrace of eugenics and anti-dysgenic policies, or further retreat into smaller and smaller technologically and economically gated safe spaces where their hedonism can carry them gently to the eternal darkness, as a fetid tide of decivilization rises.
Will it be Gattaca or Attica? Is there a third way, less tyrannical but still wise and sensible? More importantly, is it too late to make these choices?
Addendum:
In Houellebecq’s novel The Elementary Particles, the protagonist, Michel, discovers a molecular process that launches the age of genetic engineering. Michel is loveless and sad, a numberless victim of a ruthless modern sexual market, and in the end… [SPOILER]… he walks into the ocean and disappears. He lived his personal Gattaca, and it was no savior to him. Was his death a warning of what he unleashed, or a fitting tribute to the end of humanity as we know it?
Oh fuck. It really is happening.
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I think it’s already happened. But instead of changing reality, which they can’t, they are changing how we can exchange ideas about reality. Destroying language, criminalizing thought (literally, not figuratively), practice maneuvers predicated on fighting the citizenry, and so much more. These people are going for all of it, they know the days are numbered so they’re going full-authoritarian.
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I wanted to post an mp3, but didn’t have it handy. I can’t recommend reading the first few chapters of ‘The Closing of the American Mind’ by Allan Bloom highly enough for an explanation of the mechanisms behind tearing down Western Civilization.
It’s got the ‘great books’ discussion for GBFM, it’s got Weimer/US comparisons, roots of feminism, and a very clear discussion of how completely open minds about everything leads to no reason at all. It’s from 1987 and it could have been written yesterday. So not that I’m hopeful we can fix our country, but if we did we’ve got decades of this stuff to roll back.
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Unfortunately he was a YKW, not to mention homo, not to mention Straussian gnostic. But he makes a few good points anyway.
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I haven’t read the book before so can’t confirm this is a complete and accurate copy, but this looks like it works:
https://archive.org/details/ClosingOfTheAmericanMind
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Interesting…
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That’s odd. The webpage was working when I copy and pasted the URL and posted the comment.
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Exactly. Completely open minds means perpetual scepticism, ie, no reason at all.
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Well, who would have thought it? Anybody with the slightest acquaintance with reality.
Fabulous news but don’t write off the lords of lies just yet. Remember this is not the first evidence of a genetic basis for intelligence and the bastards are still in situ. Also there are vast numbers of cushy sinecures out there, Diversity Managers and their ilk, whose continued worthless existence is contingent upon our current reigning orthodoxies being oblivious to the obvious.
I live in hope. Bring on the cleansing hellfire.
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It wouldn’t be any fun if they didn’t put up some fight.
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Now there’s a simpler immigration criteria
From ‘Give us your tired, your poor…’ to ‘give us your NPTN’. Oh shoot, that doesn’t track exactly with the world’s color demographics? Huh. Imagine that.
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A step in the right direction, certainly.
Note how the researchers involved are very quick to downplay this discovery, claiming that: “The gene we identified only explains a tiny proportion of the differences in intellectual ability.”
The writer adds: “..,the genetic variation identified in this study only accounts for an estimated 0.5 per cent of the total variation in intelligence.”
I suspect they understand the full implications of this kind of research and are therefore preemptively minimizing it.
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“I suspect they understand the full implications of this kind of research and are therefore preemptively minimizing it.”
Of course they are. Else they’d see their research funding come to a screeching halt. Many years ago I was doing R&D on speech recognition software and once we even looked like straying off the reservation we got warned in no uncertain terms. Sadly, I surrendered but the incident lead to my questioning the whole Equality Potemkin Village.
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What exactly in speech recognition could cause issues?
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I’m no expert but I would think for speech recognition to work one must pronounce clearly, have relatively good diction, at minimum use the correct words and syllables, something the fo’shizzle my’nizzle crowd does not seem to have the genes for…
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Tester 1- “Excuse me, what did you just say?”
Tester 2- “Da fuq u jus’ say mang?”
irishsavant to R&D funder- “The algorithm we are using seems to be having some difficulty with the second beta tester’s uhh, umm, voice”
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Many Germans have a problem with the “TH” diphong too because they dont use it in their language and are taught to pronounce it with a hard “T” like “Neander-tall”
If you ask Arnold schwartzenegger which gun he likes most, the AK or the AR, he would say: “I like Bowf of dem”;
must be that eggplant blood pumping through his heart?
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“What exactly in speech recognition could cause issues?”
We had to be able to accommodate a range of accents and voices. As you can imagine blacks and ebonics posed many issues. Most of the R&D was being done in Ireland where our sensitivities had not at that time been honed to American levels. Cue many jokey and unflattering emails, comments in conference calls etc. about our dusky brethren. We were all shaken by the severity of the response.
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Read Jay’s comment just after I replied to you. He nailed it better than I did!
I remember one time a desktop PC overheated and smoke emerged. The joke was that the effort in trying to map ebonics caused the unfortunate computer to ignite. That was one of the jokes – we thought it very funny – that got us in trouble.
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Well, it probably does only account for 0.5% of IQ variation. A complex polygenic trait like intelligence, with subsets like spatial, logical, and verbal, probably is controlled by hundreds of genes.
Yeah, IQ gene–>varies b/w populations–>racial differences in IQ. But we all knew that. 😉
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Indeed. Something as boring as eye color determination still isn’t understood completely by geneticists; I’d imagine something like cognitive function would be more complex.
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If it accounts for only 0.5% of IQ variation, then other things accounting for a lot more IQ variation are also different between blacks and whites. Because black and white average IQ are a whole lot more than 0.5% different.
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The third way is a return to “live and let live”, a reversal of all race related policies, and letting each man make of his life what he is capable of making through his own chosen efforts, or not.
The chips would fall exactly where one would expect them to fall in such a scenario. There is no need of dystopia when all one has to do is to stop creating a fake, dysfunctional and wholly destructive reality through law.
This is assuming that they don’t retreat to their “we can’t hear you! Lalalalalalala!” ear covering communities, and/or engage in outright totalitarian censorship. Given the druthers of these idiots, this seems a likely course.
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This is the ideal humane solution. However, the control freaks in charge would rather burn the country down that let go of their Soviet-like, kafkaesque racial bureaucratic terror.
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Yeah, we talk like the current situation isn’t already a distopia. I propose if they did as you suggest things would actually improve, and society would trend toward a more healthy equillibrium. They don’t understand the analytics of the system they are trying to manipulate, therefor they wallow about like a crazed blind ape.
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We’re told that that solution is “unrealistic”. Remember Clinton’s “Affirmative action — mend it don’t end it!” At all costs they must maintain their levers and distortions in the system.
We’re told that shipping all the illegals back to their home countries is unrealistic too. But likewise it’s the right solution.
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OT:
“Short Hair, Don’t Care”
Another dumb bitch cuts off her locks:
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1722164/taylor-swift-haircut-dumb-starbucks-explained-need-to-know.jhtml
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Yes – genes make humans different, but intelligence is subjective. Even when it is objectively measured by an “intelligence test.”
[CH: I’m sure you’d be completely indifferent to giving up 50 IQ points then.
ps you’re gonna have to bring bigger firepower if you want to do battle with the CH overlords.]
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Intelligence is a strange and dynamic thing, and probably includes a huge subset of things. That does not mean it isn’t a property of life, that can be measured. Especially specific skills. A materialist’s view of life specifically implies this, to the chagrin of egalitarian leftists who use creationism as a cudgel against dimwitted creationists, but refuse to see their own cognitive dissonance with respect to HBD.
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If by giving up 50 IQ points, I turn into GBFM and lay lotza girlzlolozlozl – then I’d rather have his form of intelligence.
[CH: Nice evasion.]
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How do you know. Intelligence is subjective, right?
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Right. And I subjectively say that GBFM is intelligent.
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Fuck dude, look at the world around you. Your eyes are not lying.
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The lzlzlolz are annoying, but there’s actually some funny wordplay in there. I just wonder what he’s going to do now that Bernanke’s not in charge anymore. ‘Yellenified’ doesn’t have the same ring to it.
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Intelligence is the ability to understand. It is the ability to see patterns, cause and effect. This is not “subjective”, no matter how much you wish it to be.
You want to find a way to the masturbating conclusion that you are just as intelligent as anyone else, and you therefore pretend that everyone has the same intelligence, although you say it not exactly with those words. But that is the kind of preaching you listen to. If that would be right, then why do people keep getting different results on IQ tests? Why do people who study the same amount get different results in calculus? For that matter, why do people who practice fields based on various mental talents such as musical ability get different results?
The egalitarian lies you make yourself believe in for mental-masturbation purposes have never been able to explain why almost no one who studies as much as Isaac Newton and Beethoven can achieve their heights.
“Subjective!” you cry. “Everyone can improve, therefore there is no innate ability!” I’ll make a comparison with physical ability since it may be easier for your underdeveloped brain to understand: A midget and a tall guy both practice high jumps for 10,000 hours. The midget improves, but he doesn’t come anywhere near the results of the tall guy. Oops.
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Arbiter
Intelligence is the ability to understand. It is the ability to see patterns, cause and effect. This is not “subjective”, no matter how much you wish it to be
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Then why can’t white people dance?
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I think that intelligence can actually be changed, but it requires incredibly hard work. If someone with low math intelligence learns high school algebra, really learns it to a level of competence, then I think they would improve their performance on most any IQ test. But for them to learn that, they would have to work extremely hard for a very long time, it would feel like they’re hitting themselves on the head with a hammer. A few students it, and they outperform expectations.
To me they are heroes, the real success stories of education. But they are rare. Few are willing, few have the strong and pure spirits to work that hard.
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FamilyMan
I think that intelligence can actually be changed…..
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Wait a minute?
you mean I wasted all that rope and all them trees for nothin?
Hmmm…?
I think I been hangin the wrong people?
(((SMMFH)))
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Thwack
I think the tree is hanging from you…
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lzlzlzozozozozozz
da inteligencez genez
gives da GBFM
access to getttinzg in her jeanz lzozozoz
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So no need for entrance exams? You are aware that while IQ tests are “subjective” there is a high correlation between those that do well on them and are successful in their endeavors. While it isn’t perfect they act as an excellent first level of sorting. To encourage some one with a low score “that is just a subjective, you can do anything you want” and telling them they can be a physicist is just plain cruel. Thanks for supporting my hypothesis that the cruelest among us are those who claim to be the most helpful and egalitarian. In other words, liberals.
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The education model can change with the wider availability of the best education. For example, if someone wants to be a physicist, they can start learning here:
http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-01-physics-i-classical-mechanics-fall-1999/
and if they can’t do it even after trying to learn the required basic calculus, then they can conclude that they should do something else. In fact, ambitious kids around the world are doing just this.
It’s cheap, it’s widely available, and it can’t hide pernicious things like affirmative action.
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Stoopid peepil r jenrali happyer. Id du OK at 92 IQ.
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Maak me stoopid! Bein bizzness owner sucks!
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Twatress! Mor bear! Flam in Dr peppers!
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Subjective intellect suggests an intelligence capable of making distinctions in grade and form. Calling intelligence subjective is like calling rock water, the words defeat themselves, with themselves.
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Burninator- that’s a colorful though inapplicable analogy. You’re basically saying that the dude who made up the intelligence test is the one who gets to define it on his parameters.
I disagree.
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Aww, little Preston disagrees. That throws out all scientific results.
When even leftists have been forced to accept the validity of IQ tests and that differences in intelligence exist, then the matter is pretty much laid to rest. Sorry boy, no matter how you try you can’t wish away the fact that there are people (the majority, I am sure) with a higher intelligence than yours.
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IQ measures a persistent factor that’s correlated with various other measures of intellectual accomplishment. This statement is statistically undeniable.
You can call something else “intelligence” and measure that, but the question is, will anyone care? Height is important for basketball centers. IQ is important for pure mathematicians. Emotional intelligence is important for some other things, I suppose. Nobody’s saying IQ is nearly as important as height for basketball centers, but come to think of it you probably need at least 100 to play at professional level. On the other hand, one can do good intellectual work with the very worst physical attributes ref. Stephen Hawking whose body barely works at all.
Don’t say that one thing is something else. For some reason, the emotional intelligence folks often seem to want to confuse rather than clarify. As long as there’s clarity, they can certainly define EI., figure out a test for it, show that it’s persistent (test results aren’t random and you can’t beat the test with a little practice) and that EI as they’ve defined it correlates with something interesting. Go for it!
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You’re debating IQ tests, as opposed to addressing intelligence. You’re essentially stating that since a given tool is inadequate to address a problem, the problem must not exist.
Kind of like those who doubted the existence of extra solar planets before the advent of, say, sufficiently powerful telescopes. Sure, the math might suggest it, but hey, the math is likely wrong, and how can we prove it? It’s all subjective, a matter of opinion, a wash.
But then along came the modern telescope.
Same thing here.
“Our tools are inadequate to see them, so they don’t exist.” == “Our tools for measuring intelligence may not be sufficient, ergo, intelligence is subjective (aka doesn’t exist as an objectively measurable entity)”.
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False premise – didn’t say that differences are nonexistent.
True statement – they are subjectively measured
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That reminds of a Seinfeld episode where Elaine ( obviously not proud of her unimpressive IQ score ) complains IQ tests are made for men, and Seinfeldwhile rolling his eyes replies ; ” yes of course, because there are so many questions about hunting and testicles”
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I have a mind like a steel trap; rusty and full of weeds.
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I don’t doubt there is a lot of weed in your mind as I can not make sense of half of your comments
Your mind is like a rusty steel trap? I have no idea what that means…
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Objectively, Haiti–an outpost of Africa–is a wretched shithole. If you transferred its entire population with, say, Sweden, would the inevitable destruction of all Swedish institutions be subjective?
Preston: Doing his part to undermine reality since 1987.
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I suppose it’s just a marvelous coincidence that so many ‘stupid’ people have persisted in the population after eons of human selection.
If all that extra cranium size isn’t helping them perform on pen and paper exams, then what is it good for?
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The stupid persist because of the efforts of the intelligent to help them stay afloat. The idiot who could not think to invent a grass hut profits from the intelligent man in his village who conceived of and built the same hut. The idiots today who cannot even remotely comprehend how a transistor work keep up with the rest of us through the efforts of the engineers who invented transistors. Life ain’t magic, and intelligence in a few helps all, even the low intelligence. How that negates high intelligence is beyond me.
Your view removes the intelligent man and basically declares that the idiot can survive sans hut-inventors. Millions of years of evolution towards a higher mean intelligence in the human race says otherwise.
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Population persistence is not a synonym for intelligence, particularly the high intelligence required to build and maintain a First World Civilization.
You will never relocate to Gabon, Djibouti or Haiti because, even though these low IQ groups persist–primarily through Western aid–they are incapable of providing a way of life that you’ll find satisfactory.
Civilization and high intelligence are interrelated.
This is true not because I say it is, or, because I wish it to be, but it’s true because it is a fact that can be experienced, observed and measured.
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I’ll disagree with the Burninator on specifics while agreeing with his general point that IQ is important.
Stupid people have persisted because the genes for stupidity may have other positive effects, and because a gene’s Darwinian fitness is measured by how many offspring it produces, not how many sonnets they write or how happy they are. Stupidly screwing around will net you some kids even if you can’t feed all the offspring–some will survive, and lo and behold the genes have passed on.
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Pluviophile
Objectively, Haiti–an outpost of Africa–is a wretched shithole
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You try starting a slave revolt in your country, slaughtering ALL the white people and then declaring the 2nd republic in the western hemisphere; 3rd in the world,
and see what the rest of the white people in the world do to you?
The Haitians are being severely punished, but I wouldn’t have it any other way.
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thwack: The world’s first
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France lost so much money fighting the ni66er revolt in Haiti they had to sell Louisiana to the U.S
The U.S. paid 50 million francs ($11,250,000) plus cancellation of debts worth 18 million francs ($3,750,000), for a total sum of 15 million dollars (less than 3 cents per acre) for the Louisiana territory ($234 million in 2013 dollars, less than 42 cents per acre).[1][2
The Louisiana territory encompassed all or part of 15 present U.S. states and two Canadian provinces. The land purchased contained all of present-day Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska; parts of Minnesota that were west of the Mississippi River; most of North Dakota; most of South Dakota; northeastern New Mexico; northern Texas; the portions of Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado east of the Continental Divide; Louisiana west of the Mississippi River, including the city of New Orleans; and small portions of land that would eventually become part of the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Thanks a lot ni66ers.
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France ultimately lost Hayti because of a belief in an equality between the races that, in realty, does not exist. Haiti is the most poignant refutation of equality available.
It–Haiti–is a shithole because freedom failed the blacks and mulattoes who inherited the territory.
Hunter Wallace of Occidental Dissent meticulously traced the genealogy of Haiti:
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/category/haiti/
Have a read. If you dare.
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Pluviophile
France ultimately lost Hayti because of a belief in an equality between the races that, in realty, does not exist.
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(watch me put the white man on the spot)
OK, Mr. smart white man, what do you suggest the French have done to keep the black people in Haiti enslaved?
and before you answer I remind you that Haiti was responsible for a minimum 20% the yearly income of the French Government. Imperial armed forces are NOT cheap.
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Let’s take an eXtreme deep field view of the mess that is Haiti: The West–read white people–lied to themselves and the poor people of Haiti by convincing the lot of them that they are white men with darker skins; that by their genetic endowments they–the black and mulatto classes of Haiti–can sustain a Western form of government.
We all know the result of that experiment.
If Haiti, and, by extension, black Africa, would drop the pretense of western style government and return to tribal organization more compatible to the nature of blacks, the best of your people would come to the fore.
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The French organized a society based of slavery that produced more wealth than the thirteen colonies combined. What’s important is the aftermath of the slave revolt: when the mulatto class gained power they killed the white people responsible for its vast wealth. Since, the island began a process of deterioration that hasn’t stopped to this day.
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Did you guys notice he didn’t answer the question?
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Actually much of the work to invent transistors was done by a single white racist, William Shockley.
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Not really, someone else invented it, but it was Shockley who refined it into a functional reliable device.
He shared the Nobel prize with a couple other guys.
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Gosh Thwack, that’s exactly what I said. Much of the work was done by Shockley. Not all of it.
I guess some black bro’s did a lot of it too? *chuckle* Are there any black people in the world who understand the physics of a p-n junction? I doubt there has ever been a single one.
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FamilyMan
Are there any black people in the world who understand the physics of a p-n junction?
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I know of one; but there could be others I have not met.
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Well, adopting your perspective of avoiding anything that can be semantically corralled (however ineffectually) into being defined as “subjective”, we can always revert to non-subjective group behavior statistics as a measure of man.
Of course, this eliminates the chance for higher IQ outliers to escape condemnation. I assume that you are okay with this, considering your desperate desire to not rely on “subjective” standardized measurement and widely accepted mainstream notions of human potential. You called it. I’ll even give you the intelligence benefit of the doubt in that you thought out the potential ramifications of what you advocate. Here’s to you and yours, smart fella …
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You claim that it’s all subjective, yet without objective measurements at the boundaries of subjectivity then subjectivity itself is void. For example both black and white are necessary as objective facts in order to declare the existence of the multitudinous shades of gray.
Without objectively measurable high and low intelligence, there is no way to claim varying degrees/shades of intelligence. Even carving out middle grounds between darker and lighter gray (while denying black and white exist as objective artifacts) still necessarily relies on the objective end points. Something is either the shades of gray you’re pinning your bounds on, or they’re not. If they are not, then you cannot measure subjective within your bounds, if they are then objective measurements exist and the debate then goes back to the tools of measurement and the failed assertion that if one cannot use a hammer to launch a rocket ship then clearly rocket ships do not exist.
And “everything is subjectively measured” is rhetoric 101 stuff, best left to the 101 classes they spawned from. For reasons mentioned above. Or are you wanting to take this down to the atomic level and rest your case on 3 less atoms in a rhinoceros than is measurable due to Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle (poorly interpolated of course)?
This is of course all academic. You know, though you may not say it, that there is high intelligence and low intelligence. The mentally retarded simpleton in no way measures up to an Aristotle in any intellectual category whatsoever. To pretend otherwise is to mock reality and place oneself outside of serious discussion.
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Subjective you say. Are these people taking different tests, are the tabulations done differently for each subject?
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I think you meant to direct this to somebody else, I’m not claiming subjectivity here, insofar as real intelligence exists.
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Not sure why this appeared under your comment; it was supposed to be in response to this Preston character making the oft recited claim of subjectivity, but has deigned to provide evidence of how these tests are subjective.
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He’s not completely off-base.
[CH: You have to do better at reading people’s motivations. Understand that he is completely off-base if read in the context of his motives.]
Intelligence is indeed a multi-faced gem, encompassing the ability to generate theories and rational heuristics to understand data, the ability to remember and access memory, the ability to envision shapes in three-dimensional space, and so on. The core of all of those things is based in the ability to learn. That’s what the Wechsler IQ test measures. It is a flawed and imperfect tool, but as of now, the best anyone’s been able to come up with.
That doesn’t mean that we can simply discard all of the other attributes that can be considered intelligence, but are difficult to measure. The concept of “emotional intelligence” gets a lot of scorn, especially here, but it shouldn’t—emotional intelligence is simply being good with people.
[I believe “emotional intelligence” as a measurable quality orthogonal to g has been debunked as a concept. But it is true that some people are more socially savvy than other people. It is likely that these savvier people also have higher g.]
Most successful business people are emotionally intelligent. (So are the best PUAs.) You can be a brilliant inventor who comes up with a world-changing patent, but if you can’t talk an investor into ponying up some startup cash, you’re screwed.
And how do we categorize the brilliant musician who’s basically illiterate? Or the artist who can’t remember his multiplication tables? Or the guy with the 152 IQ who makes poor life decisions?
[Exceptions.]
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Wrong. Groupie.
The introverted inventor can license his idea to manufactures, a route with considerable less social and financial investment, that will, if successful, net royalties on a quarterly basis.
The entrepreneurial inventor to which you sloppily refer must be ready to sell to the entire food chain: investors, bankers, distributors and customers. Moreover the entrepreneurial inventor must be a talented manager.
Know your subject.
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Disagree with the CH, *partially*. IQ and social skills probably correlate up to a certain point–businessmen tend to be *moderately* smarter than average.
But the mutations that produce *exceptional* intelligence probably hamper social skills to some degree, particularly of the logical-mathematical sort. I believe this was even described in your male SMV test, where SMV rises but then falls with a high enough IQ.
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I’m not discounting the central point of your post, CH, or of Burninator’s. Anyone can see that intelligence tends to run in families, so it was just a matter of time before geneticists were able to isolate a gene that codes for it.
(Although I’d be shocked if it turns out to only be that one. My guess is that there will turn out to be a cluster of genes responsible, and that certain aspects of early childhood nutrition and intellectual stimulation will play into their proper expression.)
As far as the Brave New World questions this discovery raises, my guess is that the absence of this gene is about to become as vanishingly rare in certain segments of the population as Trisomy-21 has. There won’t be any government intervention that causes this, any more than government intervention caused births of people with Down syndrome to drop 90% even as the average age of first childbirth climbed up into brackets where it’s a serious risk.
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There are other talents and qualities besides IQ. Other good qualities such as perceptiveness, creativity, conscientiousness, agreeability etc. are definitely not the same thing as IQ, and are at least somewhat independent of it. There are even a few things, like a sense of rhythm, that are completely independent of IQ.
But IQ is real, mostly genetic in origin, and matters a lot for real world performance.
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It is also interesting that other psychological traits, such as conscientiousness, seems to be much more malleable than IQ.
To lay it out:
1. Some psychological traits are basically hardwired, and will be almost identical in any possible social environment.
2. Some psychological traits are malleable by the social environment, but only with a fairly narrow range of options.
3. Some psychological traits may be vary wildly depending on the social environment.
IQ (or at least g) seems to be mostly #1.
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“The concept of “emotional intelligence” gets a lot of scorn, especially here, but it shouldn’t—emotional intelligence is simply being good with people.”
That can be called a talent at best, not intelligence. The tactic to call every single mental talent “another form of intelligence” was pushed by a particular leftist psychiatrist; I forget his name now, but even psych students learn today not to accept his opinion without criticism. If you are good at languages, that is a talent. Good at art, that is a talent. Good at music, that is another talent. Intelligence can also be called a mental talent, the ability to understand, the ability to think logically, the ability to see patterns, and cause and effect. That doesn’t mean that all other mental talents should be called intelligence. They even light up different parts of the brain – this is not just some theoretical difference but a clear biological difference.
From whence comes the effort to call every single mental talent or ability “another form of intelligence”? What is the motivation? Simple: the leftist hatred of quality. If some are shown to be better than others, in any field, that is something the leftists want to attack. Socialists always cater to the low by attacking and dragging down the high, in any aspect. Diluding signs of quality is one way of doing this. ‘Look! There is “emotional intelligence” too! That means you can also call yourself intelligent, because no one can measure “emotional intelligence” so you can’t be proven wrong!’
In the same way, leftists push for diluding symbols of quality in, say, various Western armies, by demanding that everyone get to wear berets, not just the elite forces.
Here’s a task for you: try to invent the field of physics using “emotional intelligence”.
Here’s a thought for you: those with a higher intelligence commit far less crime and are generally far more pleasant and more kind than 70-IQ idiots.
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Ya’ll wake me up when you decide to start hangin people.
zzzzzz…..
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Who is this brilliant musician who is basically illiterate? Show him or her to me.
Now there are some brilliant musicians who spent their years that normally would have been in middle school performing in front of major orchestras instead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Chang comes to mind) but they are plenty literate and show the hallmarks of high IQ. I don’t know of any exceptions in the classical music world.
“Exception that proves the rule”? You haven’t even shown that the exception exists!
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@Family Man: my ex-husband. Brilliant, self-taught guitarist. Excellent at math, as many musicians are, but reads at about a fourth-grade level. The only reason he graduated from college was that I wrote his English papers for him.
More anecdata: I spoke for the first time at 10 months. It wasn’t babble; it was a sentence. (Fun part: The first thing I ever said was a lie. “Milk fall down,” I said, as I pushed my bottle off my high chair.) I taught myself how to read when I was three years old.
I was the eldest child, so my parents had no idea that this was abnormal in any way. The preschool teacher’s mind was pretty blown, though, so the school made me take my first IQ test when I was six. (Apparently the Wechsler is considered useless in children under six or over 16.) I’m not even going to tell you what it was (or the one after that, or the one after that) because it’s fucking insane and you won’t believe me anyway. Basically, I am Ender fucking Wiggin with tits.
And with that insane-ass IQ, do you know what I do? I FUCK UP ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I am a genius at fucking the fuck up. Walk into a room…why am I here? Open the fridge…what did I want? Walk out the door, carefully lock it…oops, keys are inside, good thing I’ve got the fucking locksmith on speed dial. Why am I getting a nastygram from Comcast? I paid that bill…oh, whoops, I paid it in fucking October and apparently decided that meant I never had to pay it ever again.
I’m here to tell you, IQ isn’t everything.
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Rap,
I also began talking at 10 months.
First thing I said was ” Bonjour madame” ( Hello Miss)
I have been told that I was such a phenomena that a neighbor kept bringing people over to show them she was not lying about the 10 month old boy who could talk.
In sixth grade I got the highest score in a school of 800 children, the school director was so impressed he called my mother to tell her.
at 14 I was called up at the office, they accused me of cheating because such a high score seemed impossible to them…
I also have been tested about 6 or 7 times and have an insanely high IQ (or actually had one). The last time I was tested was at age 32 (I’m 54), the psychologist told me that in most categories I was off the charts, she simply could not put a number on my IQ.
about ” I had one ” ; I am convinced I lost at least 50 points when I became plagued with CFS / Chronic Fatigue Syndrome back in 1996 ( at age 36).
I am not kidding. I woke up one morning and I was physically very ill and suddenly I was slow and dumb, like I was a different person entirely, like I was suddenly 98 years old, even my eyesight which was perfect and my night vision which was impressive were gone.
Now 18 years later I am feeling much MUCH better now, not cured but much better, but I am so “slow” mentally compared to what I was before CFS hit me.
Back then I could give advice to a customer over the phone about some technical stuff, while doing maths on a sheet of paper about some other thing, while thinking about what I need to buy to make my famous lasagna while following the conversation in the next cubicle… and all that was easy, it was natural it did not require effort…now if the movie plot is too complicated I have to rewind and watch again! sometimes 3 times before I get it!
it is fuck’n sad.
Back then there was a word jumble game on tv, I could tell what the word was almost instantly, now it takes me too long, the bell rings before I can find it or I simply can not figure it out.
In high school I never studied , I even skipped class often enough that I got in trouble with the “authorties” but was in the gifted group, everything was easy to me.
I used to be able to fast-read diagonally ( before I had even heard this is a technique that can be taught ) a whole page in seconds and then tell you what is on that page, now I have to read the same paragraph slowly 3 or 4 times before I get it, even these comments you read here take me several minutes to write, everything is much slower now.
I am not kidding when I say I must have lost at least 50 points.
I know most people reading this are hating me or thinking I am making this up but it is all true.
Once about 12 years ago while I was going trough a bad flare up of CFS symptoms ( intense body pain, zero energy, intense feeling of exhaustion, blurry vision, intense brain fog, extreme difficulty focusing on anything, cloudy memory , needing a lot of time to process any information etc etc ) I decided to test myself for IQ with some free internet IQ test.
in other words I could not have been in a worse condition to do such a test.
Oh yeah and I did the test in English which is harder for me, while all previous ones had been done in French which is easier for me as it is my first language.
I scored 131.
a decent score but to me it was confirmation that I had lost a big chunk of IQ points , I felt like an amputee looking at the stump where his arm or leg used to be.
I’m not dumb compared to the average human but dumb compared to what I used to be… as insulting as this may sound to most people….but it is a fuck’n a tragedy to me.
As far as IQ not being everything, I agree, I am not a very successful man despite the enormous potential I had.
many factors “kept me down”
I used to be painfully shy… then I got sick with CFS……and there is a long series of unfortunate events…yes bad luck is a real thing.
hard work and aptitude/ability matter but it is mostly luck.
not everyone who worked hard – not even the high IQ ones- digging for gold found some… while some found gold or found petrol the first day they tried. some of them were low IQ people who got lucky.
Luck -good or bad- is a real thing. no one will ever convinced me otherwise; I remember reading in National geographic that a family’s house in Texas had been hit twice by meteroids.
t-w-i-c-e .
If Mozart had been born in a Muslim nation where Music is a sin that would have been bad luck.( At least for him and for those of us who can appreciate such refined music.)
And as you know and understand – but a lot of people don’t – a high IQ does not mean we are infallible.
we can forget things, we can be fooled/deceived at times, we can not read minds. etc etc
IQ isn’t everything but it is still a damn good thing to have.
PS; “anecdata”…that’s a good one, I like it, did you come up with that ?
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FamilyMan
Who is this brilliant musician who is basically illiterate? Show him or her to me.
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Talk to any warden.
The U.S prison system is full of brilliant musicians who are basically illiterate.
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@thwack
What’s yours? You’ve been tested; I know you have. A Black kid with some brains, they’d be all over you like white on rice.
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It must not be high because if it was Im sure I would have been told, and my parents would have spent money trying to benefit from it.
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@thwack: Maybe, maybe not.
I didn’t find out until I was 15. I saw it on the guidance counselor’s desk when his useless ass stepped out of the room to take a phone call. Even my parents wouldn’t tell me.
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RappaccinisDaughter
I didn’t find out until I was 15. I saw it on the guidance counselor’s desk
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saw what?
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@thwack: My sick-ass scores. Which I bet you got some of, too.
BTW, do you follow Colion Noir on YouTube? Sometimes I wonder if you might be him.
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So what was your “sick-ass scores?”
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160 the first time. See? You’re already calling bullshit. Everyone does*.
*except for when they do believe me, and they yell at me for not making a bunch of genius aryan babies. And they can kiss my entire, lily-white ass.
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… they can kiss my entire, lily-white ass….
entire?
that makes it sound like it is big…is it that big?
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I don’t care what your IQ is; do you know how to plant tulips?
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Yeah, baby. All the way to the soil substrate.
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Rapp is right. I’m not quite so high on the verbal intelligence scale as she is, but I’m very high. Yet I have no visual-spatial intelligence at all. I can’t assemble basic things, even with instructions. I’m deficient in practical intelligence and basic life skills… ex. I will jam a screwdriver into a electrical socket without realizing it’s a bad idea, I’ll light a match next to something flammable without understanding the consequences. Yet my IQ is 140. So you can’t tell me there aren’t different kinds of intelligence, or that an IQ score is a fair measure of all of them.
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What is your hip measurement?
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Waist: 24″
Hip: 36.5″
Bust: 34.5 under the bra, 36 over. A cup plus a little.
WHR: .69
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This whole thread has some seriously high comedy value. “Ender Wiggins w/ Tits”— LOL! If you are seriously saying you have 160IQ you are indeed that. You are in the top 1000th percentile, and yet, what the fuck do you do all day? Push paper in some office? By virtue of the fact that you have a vageen between your legs coupled w/ a 160 IQ you could be a the top of any industry riding the affirmative action wave.
“The saddest thing in life is wasted talent”— A Bronx Tale
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Yeah, Jay, that’s on the real-real. The 160 was just my first one, when I still had accidents in my pants every so often.
I was a military brat. We moved a lot. And every time we moved, they made me take the test over again, because they said it wasn’t possible and they called bullshit just like you’re doing now (not that I blame you). I took that fucking Wechsler so many times, I learned how to game it. And every score after the first one went up.
But no, baby. I don’t push paper. I am doing what I was born to do. And you don’t know it, but you’re really happy that I’m doing it.
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Rappaccini, where do you go to shoot your guns?
If I get my own, will you go shoot with me on around the equinox?
I need to get qualified cause I got a big mouf.
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If RappDaughter’s a genius, I’m U Thant.
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RD, were you pushed ahead a grade or two in elementary school? I ask because my daughter has a remarkably similar profile, and when she showed up at kindergarten, already reading Austen, the school system recommended she skip K and 1 and start in second grade. This is never an easy decision but I thought it best. Out of college at 19.
My son actually has a higher IQ but he stayed with his age peers owing to second child shyness and introversion.
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@BV: They recommended to my parents that I be pushed ahead 3 grades. They wanted to send my six-year-old ass into class with a bunch of nine-year-olds. My parents said no, they wanted me to be with my peers. They made the right decision; I wouldn’t have fit in anywhere they stuck me, might as well have put me with kids my own age to tell me how much I sucked.
@Greg Eliot: Yeah, CHIX R STOOPID. Right? Right.
@thwack: Erm, you can’t shoot where I shoot. But I can take you Isaak Walton if you want. Ammo’s on me. Just post your deets.
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I think she would have been miserable learning her colors in K when she was already reading the subjunctive. Problems emerged in a few years (4th grade) when she thought it was okay to raise her hand when the teacher said something factually incorrect. That teacher then bullied and ostracized her in front of her class and we put her in a private school. The other problem was athletics, obviously, but she eventually caught up, sort of, in college. On balance I disagree with you and believe it’s highly destructive to force children onto an age, rather than intelligence ladder. (My son figured out by second grade that he could sleep through school and ace it, which is a bad habit to get into.) But one never knows. Thanks for your comment.
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@BV: I was miserable. The teachers hated it when I corrected them. I learned, very quickly, not do do it. I learned to keep my head down. I learned to mock them in secret.
And then I got worse. I started playing pranks. Don’t ever let a smart kid get bored, that’s the big takeaway here.
Oh but wait, I’ve got XX chromosomes, I’m fucking stupid. DISREGARD THE ABOVE.
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RappaccinisDaughter
@thwack: Erm, you can’t shoot where I shoot.
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Its because Im black isn’t it?
grrrrrrrrr
Does a high IQ make you racist or does racism give you a high IQ?
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“But no, baby. I don’t push paper. I am doing what I was born to do. And you don’t know it, but you’re really happy that I’m doing it.”
Is there a wall involved and are you perhaps on that wall in an existence that may seem grotesque and incomprehensible to SWPLs?
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Jay in DC,
No worse, she comments on a PUA site all day.
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@thwack: No. We don’t give a fuck what color you are.
@glengarry: I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men.
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@Greg Eliot: Yeah, CHIX R STOOPID. Right? Right.
Not necessarily… but while we’re on the subject, you did miss the homage.
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Rap, that sounds pretty impressive mentally. Did you bother to get your PhD so that instead of calling you weird they would call you eccentric instead?
There are some people who *should* stay in school, it’s the right sort of asylum for them / us.
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@ Canadian Friend:
No, “anecdata” is kind of old for a neologism in English.
I swear, if I didn’t know for a fact that you’re Canadian, I’d think I’d met you. I know a guy with your exact same story. Turns out he was suffering from chronic Lyme disease. Get tested! Come to the US to get it done; it’s worth the money. They put him on massive doses of antibiotics and he got his whole life back. Seriously. Google for “Lyme-friendly doctors” and get your credit card out.
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@Amy: Welcome to the Nutty Perfesser Club!
Today my socks don’t match and I can’t find my ID badge. Oh, wait, here it is. Cleverly hidden IN MY LEFT FUCKING HAND.
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IQ correlates positively with income, career and educational attainment. It means something.
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Discounting environmental constraints.
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Intuitively, it seems it should work this way: Genes set a limit on the ceiling that environment (sensory imputs, drugs, nutrition, etc.) can have an effect on. Without some genetic therapy, you’re not going to make a Maxwell of an Hottentot. The floor OTOH has no limit (e. g., put a bullet in the head of any genius and his IQ tends to go down to 0).
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Hmm, so breeding will out, a la ‘Good Will Hunting’ ?
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You fairy.
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succinctness is such a lost art
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Heh, heh… certain statements merit nothing further.
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This is simply incorrect, and all this guff about emotional intelligence is just an attempt to muddy the water. IQ scores, even at a young age, are the best indicator of future achievement. I wrote the following seven years ago and it’s still a valid assessment of the subject.
http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2007/03/iq-is-key.html?zx=f078b2011a60ae80
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“emotional intelligence” is an invention of feminists that tries desperately to hide the fact that men are, overall, far more intelligent in most areas of life. They couldn’t fight the facts, so they try to move the goal posts.
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Disagree–social skills are important. Heck, that’s what Game is. We all know brilliant spergs who can’t get laid. (We may have even been them!)
I think social skills are overvalued (not valueless) to society as a whole and there is too much emphasis on making people feel good about themselves. I blame feminists for that. But the skills are important, at least for the survival and happiness of the individual.
[CH: Yes, social skills are important. Now, is the skill set becoming more important in our post-modernist milieu? I think it is. Growing wealth inequality and the stress fractures caused by diversity and a winner-take-all sexual market place a premium on those who can successfully navigate complex social schemata to the top.]
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Agree and amplify with CH. It takes a lot of brains to play Game while talking feminist, to avoid NAMs screwing up your business plan while playing lip service to diversity, and to deal with gay/YKW influence while looking non-homophobic/antisemitic.
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No.
Someone like YaReally, who seems to me a born salesman, has an advantage over more intelligent but less social people in almost every aspect of life that can improve material and emotional circumstance.
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Social skill = impossible to overrate. Put on your evo hat — back in the ‘tribe’ days, you needed to get along with whatever merry band of people because death was the likely result of an ouster.
Further, the world is superficial. There’s no way around it. People use heuristics to determine your underlying worth. So appearing to be X, Y, Z, etc. is extremely important.
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No, I screwed that up (never said mine were all that good!)
Social skills are the most important skills for the *individual* for the reasons you have cited.
Social skills are (*IMHO*) overvalued by *society* in that we prize getting along over finding the right answer and seeing the world as it is, with sometimes disastrous results. Any society must have peace and harmony to survive–I am arguing we are a little too far in this direction.
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I agree social skills are important……very much so. But we’re talking about a different thing. IQ testing provides very consistent results with powerful predictive properties. What’s been fraudulently described as emotional intelligence cannot be measured in a way that would survive proper peer review. And by proper peer review I don’t mean by social “scientists”.
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“Intelligence is one of the greatest human gifts. But all too often a search for knowledge drives out the search for love. This is something else I’ve discovered for myself very recently. I present it to you as a hypothesis: Intelligence without the ability to give and receive affection leads to mental and moral breakdown, to neurosis, and possibly even psychosis. And I say that the mind absorbed in and involved in itself as a self-centered end, to the exclusion of human relationships, can only lead to violence and pain.”
― Flowers for Algernon
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Social skills are important, but spergs like me can learn them. Take someone with high “emotional intelligence” and let them try to learn any one of the many spergy things I’ve learned.
Yeah, right.
IQ is persistent. EI is not.
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It’s pretty much accepted in circles where this stuff used to be sold (corporate America HR), that EE is a farce. You have to read more a more rigorous exposition on it than Goleman to know that, though. It’s old news.
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*EI
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Exactly. What word did you use? -Indicator.
One that has clearly escaped the study of our new subjectivist, prevaricating nutbar, @Preston.
While 1 set of tests like the S-B may not cover ALL types, they are a fantastic -Indicator- of what may exist in Many forms.
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Ex: I was talking to this doc once about a set of lab experiments using all kinds of fancy equipment, tens of $1,000.00s of it.
He went on to note that one intern on a random anecdote tried out a much-cheaper alternative instrument.
It turned out the relationship between the phenom tested-for and the readings on this cheapo-box were so in-sync, the lab could proceed to basically shift-out & repurpose the pricey crap to other experiments.
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So just as you say: Strong -Indicator-.
I am convinced people BS and Muddy-the-waters just so they can feel better about something they know they don’t qualify-for.
-Ego trying to preserve itself all over again.
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IQ is not subjective. “Intelligence” includes, colloquially: memorized knowledge, brain speed (how fast you can access memorized knowledge), creativity, and analytic abilities. High brain speed and creativity = sexytime. High IQ, strong analytic abilities, and memorized knowledge don’t necessarily make a man a pussyslayer, but these types of intelligence make for superior civilizations, even if they are rather boring — these types of men make good neighbors and coworkers, but are probably not the life of the party.
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Correct.
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Cool. I’m sure if you ever need heart surgery, you won’t bother to find an intelligent surgeon but will just randomly pick some man on the street who happens to have a knife to cut you open, right?
Because, after all, intel-eh-junce is subjective.
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Why does everyone insist that intelligence is some great power beyond “pattern recognition?” I swear, all problems begin and end with human vanity.
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Sigh… I know, right?
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I’m pretty sure there’s a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is – Derek Zoolander
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Why does the sober man insist that he is better able to drive than the drunk?
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Physics problems begin with the problem and end with the solution or failure to find the solution. And finding it has little to do with how you feel about your physics ability, almost everything to do with your actual physics ability.
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“but intelligence is subjective”
Oh shut the fuck up you quasi kike. No it isn’t. If it was, people with low IQs wouldn’t almost without exception have shit countries.
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Wait a minute, what if a black guy has a high IQ and a small dick; and a white woman has a slammin body and a low iQ? would they both be hung from a tree?
or forced to fuck each other?
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Why you be talking shit about David Alexander now?
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When the men hang me from the devil’s tree, I will swing free, until they cut me down.
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No clue. But then, I don’t go around looking at guys’ dick.
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The black guy with even a moderately high IQ would have so many creature comforts due to affirmative action he could have a girl for every day of the week come and mouth-suction his small wiener.
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FamilyMan
The black guy with even a moderately high IQ would have so many creature comforts due to affirmative action
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Is “affirmative action” designed to compensate a black person for being mistreated on the basis of color?
or to compensate for our tiny negro minds?
or it it something else?
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Something else: For YKW its a way to fuck over his Enemy,the White man. For the brain dead pipe cleaner dick Lefties its way to sustain the fantasy that blacks are equal to us. (Tho the fantasy that WE are equal to THEM has been abandoned. Confusin to my cracka mind) And to the ni66azz deyseff iss a way to get paid;cuz if dat ni66a don’ get paid somebody gon get hurt nomesyane????? PS:To Rappaccini daughter(get the ebonics?) reading about your life makes me want to bang you. Up to now I saw u as a bore but now I am turn on to you,dig? Bitch…
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Affirmative action is mostly so that liberals will have a good conscience.
If a fireman shot water at the wrong house – the one that is not on fire – and was causing serious water damage to the house not on fire, but could sleep at night because he felt that he at least tried to help, that he at least did something, we would all agree he is wrong and possibly insane.
Affirmative action is about as efficient as the above fireman,
yet liberals feel great about it.
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Is the ability to do nuclear physics equations subjective? Most people can’t do them. How about the ability to understand a proof in topology or complex analysis? Most can not understand advanced mathematical proofs no matter how much of an explanation they get told.
Intelligence is not subjective any more than computational power of a CPU is subjective.
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Oh shit now you’re talking about stuff most people have never even seen, let alone experienced failing at.
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I really hate when things get bogged down in this IQ crap. Yeah, I want scientists to do the research because I want them to hurry up and build the damn Matrix so I can at least have the option of regurgitating this Red Pill and live out my twilight years in an America I recognize, or Game of Thrones.
But do I need this justification for what I already see with my own eyes?
Or what SBPDL documents daily?
Will it change anything at all? Hell no.
Even if they prove beyond doubt that blacks (or whoever) are 90% born violent retards, they’ll just coddle them even more and that will become the new “racism” excuse. “They can’t help it because they’re born that way the poor dears”… cue even more money down the ghetto rat hole to “redeem” and “assist” and even less to things that might advance us.
I don’t need IQ tests and science to observe Detroit, and not Detroit. Africa, and not Africa. Validating common sense through science isn’t going to change my ideals, or those of the disingenuous leftists. Discussion of it is boring and unproductive and it always spawns the same conversation. Thanks though for the original post mentioning the study.
Carry on, just wanted to spew my bit of venom.
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This statement and most above it are a bunch of drivel. Here is what happens when a physics professor decides he wants to write and be published in one of the non-high intellect fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
If tomorrow, physicists had to start generating journal quality research in sociology and sociologists in physics or they would be executed, who is fearing for their life?
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Do you have an issue of reading comprehension? Sokol intentionally wrote nonsense, and the journal took it and published it, because their stuff is drivel anyway — as Sokol has correctly surmised. Sokol succeeded, sociology failed. Physicist >> Sociologist.
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No, but you apparently do. My statement was quite clear in its intent – that physicists (and other hard sciences) are far smarter than their LA counterparts. The folks above were yammering on about different “types” of intelligence and the subjectivity of intelligence. Like beauty, intelligence is not subjective.
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Quite right, it was late …
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My bigness is best brought
To other…
events
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Its time for all of you to make the transhumanist wager. Needless to say, I already have. All other considerations are minuscule in comparison.
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Funny, the “Progressives” supported eugenics a little more than 100 years ago. Oliver Wendall Holmes ruled, “Three generations of imbeciles is enough.”
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Buck v. Bell 274 U.S. 200 (1927), is a decision of the United States Supreme Court, written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., in which the Court ruled that a state statute permitting compulsory sterilization of the unfit, including the intellectual disabled, “for the protection and health of the state” did not violate the Due Process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The decision was largely seen as an endorsement of negative eugenics—the attempt to improve the human race by eliminating “defectives” from the gene pool.
The Supreme Court has never expressly overruled Buck v. Bell.
The ruling was written by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. In support of his argument that the interest of the states in a “pure” gene pool outweighed the interest of individuals in their bodily integrity, he argued:
“ We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. ”
Holmes concluded his argument by declaring that “Three generations of imbeciles are enough”.[5]
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There’s plenty you can do without coercion. Incentives for intelligent people to have children, disincentives for them to go childless and vice versa.
Take a look at the comments and “likes” on articles on eugenics and compare to immigration or race/crime. We need to get to work with some good propaganda on eugenics. C’mon team, lets get as motivated as Hasbara trolls. We have the advantage that we are right.
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Good suggestion. This needs to be done. Even regular posting on blogs, especially those of the MSM before the thought police consign them to the ether, it all helps. It’s a cliché, but we’re talking about the world we’re going to leave to our children and theirs in turn. Another cliché – it’s existential – but true nonetheless.
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As Holmes pointed out, the sub-90 IQ welfare queens would not mind sterilization payed for by the state. They’d line up for it! They hate their own kids. They have 8 kids only because they have animalistic sexual practices with thug black men, without using birth control. Many of them would gladly sign up for sterilization, which would let them fuck like orangutans without having the suffer the consequences of pregnancy. Let’s make it part of Obamacare. All that needs to be done is not to give it a stigma. Don’t let the welfare queens know the reason society wants them to be sterile–simply present it as “free lifetime birth control.”
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Just introduce it as a benefit and a positive and they’ll go for it.
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Don’t be so sure. They are smart enough to like their babies.
If it were so easy it would already have been done. But if you try it, you’ll get a backlash like you wouldn’t believe.
That’s why it has to be done subtly, via “a woman’s right to choose” etc. That propaganda has the side effect of wiping out a large part of the next white generation as well, but I guess one has to ask about the reproductive fitness of those who fall for such propaganda — including white party girls on the carousel.
I don’t think you see many asians getting abortions. Never heard of it in fact, except aborting girls in China under the one-child policy.
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There’s a pretty good eugenic argument for importing YKWs and Asians under those conditions. If you’re not a white nationalist to begin with, it’s not clear why eugenics would make you one–if anything, a diverse gene pool is less prone to harmful recessives, and you have the benefits of the different high-IQ genes that evolved in Europe (Germanic and Ashkenazi), India, and China, for starters.
Plus it would give the USA the advantage in germ warfare–it’s a lot easier to engineer a bug that kills Chinese or Russian people (or whoever our enemies are at the time) than whatever mongrel mix America has.
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Nice try but then perhaps we should introduce the “red pill eugenics” concept, where YKW’s parasitism outweighs their superior abilities.
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Chinese are somewhat homogeneous. Russians – not, comprised of many different influences. The USSR had something like 80+ different ethnic backgrounds.
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including a healthy dose of Chernyy.
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Quite recently, both Portugal and Spain offered free citizenship to Jews who could “make a showing” (after 500 years, there’s not much objective proof) that they were descendents of the expellees of the AD 1490s.
Not many of us have bothered to apply. Why jump==on== a newly sinking ship?
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A Euro passport + schengen visa seems worthwhile if you don’t have one already.
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As an intelligent person, I refuse to knock up some baby-momma so she can garnish my blood/sweat/tears for the next 20 years of her’n’my lives.
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No matter how high the IQ – it still plummets to zero in
the presence of a gorgeous woman
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Wrong.
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That’s just the brain telling the cock:
“Look… I WANT that blood back… do whatever you have to do!”
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“There’s plenty you can do without coercion. Incentives for intelligent people to have children, disincentives for them to go childless and vice versa.”
Yes, but these incentives seem like they are based on institutionalized coercion so start with. What would they be, income tax credits and penalties? Income tax is coercive, dysgenic BS.
Why not have a system where only access to natural resources (land, fossil fuels, minerals, etc) are taxed and managed via a democratic process, and the revenues are only spent on law enforcement (which includes national defense from foreign forces who look to break laws & violate people), courts, and the administration of this natural resource management system (including possible public companies for physical monopolies such as for roads, utilities, etc). There would be no coercive back-end taxes such as income, capital gains, inheritance, corporate, payroll, sales, or value-added taxes. There would be no government spending on individually-consumed service industries such as healthcare, education, unemployment insurance, retirement saving, etc. After paying up front for natural resources used, each entrepreneur, laborer, and investor would be able to keep ALL of the fruits of his own labor and risk and save or spend them as he wishes, allowing for great competition in the already mentioned industries that are currently being corrupted by govt monopolies and cronyism.
After that, it’s a level playing field and natural selection can run its course. Not smart or conscientious enough to offer value to society in exchange for influence in the form of $? Then you can’t pay for raising offspring, and your inferior genes are filtered out of the future generation’s gene pool. It’s that simple: ban coercion from society and the inferior will fail themselves.
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It’s weird how people who support eugenics, in one way or another, never really support the idea of gene therapy to “rehabilitate” so-called “bad” genes.
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Check out this web site – http://faceoftomorrow.org
Basically, 50 individual photos of men or women – from the same city – superimposed atop one another. Theory being that as gene pools meld – certain traits prevail. The composite faces – are gorgeous.
So, are we genetically better off under a law of averages?
Interestingly, the photographic technique was developed a hundred years ago by someone looking to determine if criminals shared common facial features. The first ‘racial’ profiling.
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Charlie Dont Surf
Interestingly, the photographic technique was developed a hundred years ago by someone looking to determine if criminals shared common facial features. The first ‘racial’ profiling
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The criminals that share common facial features are the ones who get caught.
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LOL! An da niggazz we got HERE is da ones dat got caught!!!
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We would if it were possible. Is it?
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Are they going to just call this genetic “privilege”? There was a recent story about them shutting down a gifted program in a school because it was too white, saying that these kids needed to be held back to give the others a fair chance
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That smacks of what they’ll start out doing.
“It’s not fair, you are smarter than the average person, you don’t deserve your intelligence, you didn’t get that through hard work! You owe your fellow man some consideration (money)!”
I mean why not, they do it with everything else. The trick is to laugh at them and walk away.
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Well, being smarter than average (or stronger, or faster, or whatever) generally translates into higher income and correspondingly higher taxes. There, that’s your share. Happy now?
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Yes, of course, we both know that. But the Left will use it to, as usual, suggest that somehow, despite the fact that your demographic is paying 80% of the taxes in the nation, that somehow you are not “doing your fair share”.
I don’t wish for an Armageddon, but if one comes I won’t be shy about acting appropriately in a target rich environment. These vermin are evil personified.
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Maybe we’ll all have to do what is accomplished by a few smart people: become police officers. To pass the police exam, you must score neither too low nor too high. The automatic answers given by a smart person would score way too high, so some people quietly report having given some percentage of intentionally wrong answers — and they are now cops who may have already retired after their 20 years.
We have to acquire the “common touch”. Then use the intelligence quietly and strategically.
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yeah school districts are doing that everywhere. it’s maddening. or they go the other way: Miami-Dade County is infamous for lowering the standards for “gifted” so they basically call 40% of the students gifted. there was even an MSM article about it.
the reading standards are a joke. my kids are above average intelligence but not geniuses (like me) and they supposedly read “5 grades above their level.” My contention is they should be what is “average” and they basically are for civilized people. The “grade level” standard the schools use, however, is “inner city” standards if you know what I mean. “See Spot run.”
As we all know, the king of MSM, CNN, recently was forced to publish a huge story pointing out that 98% of all black college athletes (the big 3 sports) literally cannot read past a 2nd grade level. They have to be tutored to sound out words with more than one syllable. ALMOST ALL OF THEM!!! My kindergartener literally reads better than 50% of black kids in college right now and the third grader reads better than 97% of them.
LITERALLY.
Go to McDonald’s (not healthy but just do it once). You will notice the obese 400 pound black person behind the counter, who does not appear to be the same species as Avril Lavigne, will seriously struggle to make change, after the machine tells her how much to give back.
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My uber liberal sister just posted on FB that she is opposed to making teachers accountable for student performance because they can’t control what kind of kids they get. She also holds that all children are equally teachable. I cannot for the life of me get her to understand that these two positions are mutually exclusive.
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That’s because her world view is not based on fact, reason, intelligence nor logic. It’s based on emotion and emotion alone. There is no swaying that kind of worldview with straight facts or pointing out their own contradictions.
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Emotion, how do you figure? I see a calculating person willing to engage in mental alchemy in order maximize her self interest. In other words, it is in her self interest to not have a performance based accountability standard; it is not in her interest to hold views that would make her a pariah. Thus, she holds contradictory positions. Emotion? No. She is conducting pure social calculus.
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The goals are irrelevant, the method of basing them on one’s world view are. A woman can be entirely emotion driven and still want to “get my man” e.g. – a certain bachelor. That’s self interest, clearly, but it does not negate her emotion based psyche.
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In case you missed it; my argument is that she is internalizing social word views (not her own) and compartmentalizing them in a way that is to her benefit. This may be a sub-conscious rationalizing (psyche as you may prefer), but it isn’t emotional in any tangible respect.
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I don’t entertain that women are devoid of intellect entirely. An emotional world view (note the words “world view”) easily compartmentalizes, which requires a certain level of logic. The driving impetus however is emotional and not bound necessarily to swaying by facts, logic or data. If the data doesn’t fit, she will ignore it or not “hear” it or simply plant her foot and state “I don’t care, I’m right!”. This is not some major secret thing I’m stating here, it’s fairly well established that women work more on emotion than logic when it comes to tasks. This does not preclude women using some level of logic, nor men from having some level of emotional investment in a given topic.
When I say “world view” I mean just that, that the overall driving motivation and approach to solving or expressing problems is emotional rather than solid hard left brain intellectual. You can’t win arguments with those kinds of people, men or women, since their world view invests heavily in being right without regard to truth, fact or logic, as they have a heavy emotional investment in being right (for whatever reason).
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Yet another anecdotal, yet concisely persuasive argument for homeschooling.
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I imagine she means that all children can improve but that not all can excel.
The trend in education is moving towards measuring “growth” as opposed to “achievement.” While its unreasonable to expect every student to be at the “proficient” or “advanced” level on state tests (unless you live in Lake Woebegone) it is reasonable to expect that a student will improve over the course of the year.
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The way children learn differs – and the current model of education is too inflexible … so any “measure of success” is statistical codswallop – used by politicians to placate beleaguered parents while misspending their money.
Your kid has a visual /auditory learning style – Ivy League College
Your kid has a tactile / kinesthetic learning style – Trade School
Are venture capitalists crying out for more Phds? Nope – Their looking for someone who can reduce the thickness of a soda can by a fraction of a millimeter and save 1/10th of a cent per can. So they can leverage that across a billion soda cans – while short selling aluminum futures.
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I think it’s more than leaning style. That’s highly correlated with ability to learn certain things.
Visual / auditory learning style seems to be required to learn what we require to enter the professions. How can someone with a tactile / kinesthetic style function as an engineer or a doctor? Well they can’t. They would make a lot of critical mistakes and be unable to sit still long enough even to understand what they had done wrong, let alone acquiring enough overall understanding of the terrain to do a similar but different thing right the next time.
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But if you can talk to her about it without her getting angry and bitter at you, you’re doing more than I can do in such cases.
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My wife teaches high school in a suburban white area. Its true that basing pay on student grades would be a bad idea without other factors involved. Even at this school she gets her share of idiots and lazy kids that simply do not want to participate, lowering the average grades of the class. Also, she sometimes gets the gifted ones that can be inspired by a good teacher but don’t really need them.
Its all about the luck of the draw, but no one will admit this. Schools in ghettos are filled with broken children of low IQ parent(s), often raised by a mother without a father around. No amount of incentives will get those kids smarter. You can’t pour two pounds of sand into a one pound bag. White schools do better because they’re filled with white students. Duh.
The current system must change, of course. Public sector unions are a terrible idea and have held back the rise of new styles of schooling / education that can prepare the kids who actually want to be there for the 21st century. Giving teacher pay raises / pay cuts for grade performance will lead to situations like that in Atlanta where everyone simply inflated grades.
The solution is simple (but not easy):
Eliminate tenure, teacher unions, evaluate teachers by recording classroom time at random at letting parents review it.
Remove credentialism (a total crony barricade) and allow people who worked in the private sector easy transition to teach for a few years or part time in retirement.
Push kids that aren’t college material (i.e. most) into trades, apprenticeships by age 12.
Military-style boot camp schools in the woods / mountains for the kids that are identified as disruptive at an early age.
Change curriculum to re-introduce latin and critical thinking instead of all this self esteem multicultural diversity nonsense.
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Basically a pipe dream, but kids in Vietnam learn how to do spreadsheets in 2nd grade while we “graduate” communication majors in college who can’t find Germany on a map.
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Teachers keep saying they shouldn’t be accountable (and at risk of their jobs) because the evaluation system isn’t absolutely completely fair. Why do they think they get a completely fair evaluation? Everyone else is evaluated on things that are not completely fair, often terribly unfair.
This whole meme that teachers can’t be evaluated and fired because it’s unfair has got to be shot down.
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Yeah, like ‘Honor Student’, Strictly confined to the top 99%.
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“…obese 400 lb black person…” Who I am gaming the hell out of and just may score some PUSSAY from!!!
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Yep … the same old game as they always do … deny deny deny … then jump straight to justify. You don’t earn genes, you inherit them, so they will see that as all the more reason why I have to turn over my paycheck and savings to the government. They’ll forget about their decades of hiding the truth in an instant and see it as ammunition for their socialist cause.
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If they pull that shit, someone needs to sue to get on the basketball team.
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Are they just going to call this ‘genetic privilege’?
Oh, no, that could never happen. Just ask Harrison Bergeron…
http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html
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Why not? There’s already “pretty privilege” and “smart privilege”. It’s just the next step.
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Wilson
There was a recent story about them shutting down a gifted program in a school because it was too white,
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If you are really “gifted” you don’t need no special program.
Nobody taught me to draw, nobody taught me to play piano. Nobody taught me how to throw a perfect 60 yard spiral and hit my man on the slant?
Nobody taught me how to do a 2 and 1/2 gainer off the high dive?
Im teaching myself the bible right now. I ain’t waitin for no “special program” to qualify me as gifted.
I knew I was gifted when I stopped Greg Eliot in the 3rd round.
I must be the greatest, I shook up the world!
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thwack, have you ever read anything by John Holt?
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no, should I?
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I think you’d appreciate much of his work.
At the beginning of his career as a homeschooling revolutionary: How Children Fail. It’s a compilation of memos he wrote to another teacher while teaching math to fifth graders at an expensive private school in the ’60s.
Near the end of his life: Never Too Late, a book about how he began to learn the cello in his late fifties.
Somewhere in the middle: Instead of Education.
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Would putting you in the same class 8 hours a day with knuckle-dragging retards who give you wedgies, shoot spitballs at you and disrupt the class with one-liner put-downs of you, other classmates and the diminutive, cowering teacher have helped or hindered you developing your talents?
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In general, public schools, outside of the absolute basics you learn early on in elementary, is a huge waste of time. The people that are truly smart succeed regardless.
I’d say mixing males and females in school is more of a distraction than anything else.
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@Thwack: when the men hang me from the devil’s tree, I will swing free until they cut me down.
This. Thwack is off here. For YOUNG KIDS you absolutely need the smart ones together away from the average brained bullies. Duh.
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Hindered; but then again, if you really wanted to do that, you could just hang my father.
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Assuming your mammy could actually identify which of her (ahem) beaux he might of been… and then actually tracking him down, after his feets didn’t fail him upon learning the news.
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thwacksta is of the high yella caste–or so we have been led to believe;maybe his daddy be da ofay DEBBIL!!!
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Are you really a self taught musician? and you play the piano? or are you just saying stuff to be funny again?
I am a self taught musician, I play the piano, I also play bass.
I play by ear but have composed a lot of music as of yet unpublished. Maybe someday I will try selling my stuff on CDbaby or some other site.
This will sound arrogant or pretentious but my friends call me a musical genius and say it is a tragedy my stuff is not published. Their words, not mine.
I don’t know why I am telling you this
let’s go back to talking about white supremacy and hanging from trees.
moving along…
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Canadian Friend
.I play by ear but have composed a lot of music as of yet unpublished.
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Yes Im self taught; but I did get some theory in middle school
How many parts did you write for your compositions?
And did they include lyrics?
Also, give me an example of a song you taught yourself to play and have mastered?
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My recording equipment has 16 tracks so I never wrote more than 16 parts ( piano, strings, brass, percussion, synthesizers etc ).
I am not very good for coming up with lyrics, most of my music has no lyrics because I just am not good at that, but as far as coming up with catchy melodies, musical arrangements, and cool riffs, making an intro, verses, chorus, a break etc etc that is easy for me, I am very creative, I can also improvise in most musical genres.
When I compose on the piano it sounds a bit like classical music but less cerebral. or I have ideas for ballads or pop songs
My main instrument is electric bass, then piano. On bass I have played almost everything from disco to heavy metal, so ideas that I have on bass are in many genres, on which I then add keyboards, strings etc… I also play guitar just well enough to come up with song ideas but I do not call myself a guitar player.
I should focus on one genre, people get confused because I can write a dance song on the keyboard one minute and a metal song on bass the next and have an idea for a ballad on the piano in between. I even have 2 or 3 country songs on tape cassette somewhere!
I often have an idea for another song while I am working on one song…
too many ideas but not enough discipline (and not enough time ) I drive myself crazy at times!
To be honest these days I don’t play much, I am getting old ( 54) and I don’t know the right people ; in that business it is 99% who you know and 1% how much talent you have , just listen to what is on the radio, most of it is crap. but they knew the right people, or sucked the right dick or provided them with enough cocaine so they got a recording contract and they get played on the radio.
I also had hard times in my life from health problems to losing insane amounts of money, so I am not as “combative” as I used to be.
oh yeah and in the 80s one of my songs (melody and structure no lyrics ) was stolen, it became a local hit ( quebec is a tiny market ). I had let a woman borrow the tape…she had told me she had connections…I never saw her again and a few months later that my friend told me my song was on the radio…and it was…
It was not copyrighted…so I had no recourse. but the market being so small here back in the 80s ( if the lyrics are in French ) there was not much money in that anyway.
How much do I owe you for this hour of therapy DrThwack?
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Canadian Friend
I should focus on one genre, people get confused because I can write a dance song on the keyboard one minute and a metal song on bass the next and have an idea for a ballad on the piano in between. I even have 2 or 3 country songs on tape cassette somewhere!
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No, don’t do that!
Its a trick. Write what you feel like writing, play what you feel like playing. The people telling you to be more narrowly focused are not musicians or artists. Don’t listen to “civilians”.
Im the same way. I write/play all different kinds of material.
Here is an exercise you can do to expand your musical IQ. Find another musical and have them write some lyrics which you then put words to; or write some words which you then put music to.
I swear to God you will be pleasently surprised with what you come up with. Look at all the material you have right here on the board!
Theres some gourmet language and concepts getting dropped up in this mufuggah eryday.
Matter of fact, send me some music you wrote and I will come up with some lyrics for you, Or vice versa just to show you how it works.
BTW– regarding theft?
thats why you gotta play live; you save the best lyrics and riffs for the people who came to see you. And thats when you send out “secret messages”…
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Thwack,
For all I know you could be a 300 pound transvestite posting from Thailand
this is the internet
How do I know my songs will not become a hit over there and then you will get the royalty while I get nothing because I will have no way of knowing?
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Actually, just get a Sound Cloud page and post a few songs/concepts you are working on up there.
Its free.
I will try to dig mine up.
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Canadian Friend
How do I know my songs will not become a hit over there and then you will get the royalty while I get nothing because I will have no way of knowing?
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Canadian Friend, you my friend, suffer from what is known as the philosophy of scarcity syndrome. You see limitaions everywhere instead of opportunities; what color did you say you were?
Look man, where is your great song before you write it? You think I got a limited number of drum beats and once I use em all up I can’t jam anymore?
Ni66a pahleeeez
Have you heard Beethoven’s 13th symphony?
Theres more than 9.
You have not even begun to make good music because of all the self imposed fears and arguments of personal scarcity you duckin; not to mention the biggest one, fear of rejection.
Do me a favor. Go find a mirror and look directly into it. See that dude lookin at you?
Extend your middle finger to him and tell him to go fuck himself and to stay the fuck out your way.
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Music theory in middle school! The earliest that’s available in my district is high school.
They didn’t have music theory in my public schooling either, at all, in my “privileged white” school. Thwack your presumed (humming “In the Ghetto” to myself) poor disadvantaged childhood included a lot of good stuff.
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I knew I was gifted when I stopped Greg Eliot in the 3rd round.
An over-active imagination in which one identifies with a silverback from a warmed-over Rocky movie doesn’t correspond with either connotation or denotation of gifted, Rastus.
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I was wondering why this gifted fellow who can throw a perfect 60 yard spiral isn’t getting beaten up in the NFL.
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its not good enough for the NFL.
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Readers not familiar with Houellebecq should know that his novels are full of CH-esque wisdom. From the same book mentioned (The Elementary Particles):
“Never could stand feminists…” Christiane continued when they were halfway up the hill. “Stupid bitches always going on about washing dishes and the division of labor; they could never shut up about the dishes. Oh, sometimes they’d talk about cooking or vacuuming, but their favorite topic was washing dishes. In a few short years, they managed to turn every man they knew into an impotent, whining neurotic. Once they’d done that, it was always the same story — they started going on about how there were no real men anymore. They usually ended up ditching their boyfriends for a quick fuck with some macho Latin idiot. I’ve always been struck by the way intelligent women go for delinquents, brutes and assholes. Anyway, they fuck their way through two or three, maybe more if they’re really pretty, and wind up with a kid. Then they start making jam from Marie Claire recipe cards. It’s always the same story, I’ve seen it happen dozens of times.”
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Houellebecq is awesome. His novel ‘Whatever’ is a good primer on the sexual marketplace in the West.
CH quotes from it (and other Houellebecq novels) here:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/choice-quotes-from-michel-houellebecq/
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I read The Elementary Particles last year. Still ruminating on the implications raised by the author’s observations. It is a big idea book. The story is not so important. I had taken the red pill shortly before I read this book. Viewing the book through the lens of the manosphere’s wisdom, it is unassailably true that both of the book’s protagonists were victims of the SMP. Michel is an omega. He was set down that road by his selfish parents. Bruno starts out Beta-ish but ends up an Omega like his half brother. Again, sent down that road by his selfish baby boomer parents. Neither could come to peace with themselves because they were oblivious to the SMP and its pernicious puppet strings. The clear winner in the book was David, failed rock star turned ritualistic Satanist and natural alpha who, at the time he met the protagonists, had already slept with 500 women. The sociopath got to spread his dysgenic seed whilst the intelligent and sensitive men fail to breed. The author’s vision of the future is chilling and just as plausible as any I’ve seen. Read this book. Our extinction or perhaps superannuation really could be only one or two geniuses away from happening in our lifetimes.
I often ponder whether that extinction will be a direct result of our evolutionary maladaptation to the modern SMP.
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I believe that you misread the book
There is no winners in Elementary Particles, certainly not the the one that you mentioned, a personality of no importance other than to add another color nuance to the background
The book is about our atomized society where all cohesive forces have been broken (we all know who), it is about men with no links to the past, no attachment to the present and no hope for the future
That is why it is called elementary particles
Houellebecq is a must read for anybody who strives to understand where we are, how we got there and is there any way out
There is nobody in my knowledge who comes even close to his masterful description of the nihilism that surrounds us, that tears us away from our very essence
Here is the part of the prologue which I hope It will compel at least some to read this and other of his books
(Part of the beauty is forever lost in translation so for those who want to learn French this would be a worthy challenge)
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Metaphysical mutations—that is to say radical, global transformations in the values to which the majority subscribe—are rare in the history of humanity. The rise of Christianity might be cited as an example.
Once a metaphysical mutation has arisen, it tends to move inexorably toward its logical conclusion. Heedlessly, it sweeps away economic and political systems,aesthetic judgments and social hierarchies. No human agency can halt its progress—nothing except another metaphysical mutation.
It is a fallacy that such metaphysical mutations gain ground only in weakened or declining societies. When Christianity appeared, the Roman Empire was at the height of its powers: supremely organized, it dominated the known world; its technical and military prowess had no rival. Nonetheless, it had no chance. When modern science appeared, medieval Christianity was a complete, comprehensive system which explained both man and the universe; it was the basis for government, the inspiration for knowledge and art, the arbiter of war as of peace and the power behind the production and distribution of wealth—none of which was sufficient to prevent its downfall.
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I haven’t read it, but it sounds like this David is the ONS that gets his dick wet and then vanishes, while the girl’s betas try and try to get a little more attention.from the girl they’ve put on the pedestal. If the beta who eventually marries her (and maybe raises David’s child) forgets that David even existed, then David becomes a minor character, after all he was hardly in the picture.
This is typical for alpha badboys, whether the plot reviewer wants to call them major or not. We’ve been trained to think of the “protagonist”, the character who changes the most, as the most important character. Yes I know they told you this in English class too. But why shouldn’t the character who causes the most change in others be considered the major character?
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Science is NEVER settled until we can transcend this universe. It has always be revised, progressively in the long run since ours is to be the apex species (so far). I suggest a culture of rationalists harmonizing with the laws of evolution. Groups that do that best are the big winners of history.
What institutions we must have should be hostile to all human institutional solutions and let the grim, messy but cleanest and most compassionate judgment of nature win immediately rather than later at a group cost far greater than any privileged individual’s benefits. Empericism keeps ‘science’ and all other dogma honest. We don’t need to know what the exact genes are to have philosophically sound culture and societal policy. To organize from the individual up to the collective is entirely different than maladaptive fiat force from the top down. Militia =/= military. Fiat money =/= private money. Men =/= women. &tc. &tc.
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Gallileo. But the flipside of an inquistion to suppress heresy is that ruthless rivals will use science to beat your magical beliefs.
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He wasn’t prosecuted for his theories, he was prosecuted for writing a forward in his treatise that mocked the Pope and called him stupid/simple/simpleton (“Simplicio”). The fact is that the Catholic church not much later re-published Galileo’s works whole, minus the Preface which mocked the Pope. Galileo had a whole debate society going with the cardinals and the Pope at the time, and was on good terms with them prior to his mockery.
In short, he acted like a snarky, smarmy Leftist before it was socially acceptable to do so, not content to present facts he had to also present ridicule with name calling. Had he published the works as is, without the snark, he would have done fine.
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Yup.
Then the Cathedral/Synagogue ran with the myth.
The Church actually PUBLisHED Galileo.
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All the above is true, but it can’t be denied that Protestant countries pulled ahead of Catholic ones shortly afterward. The Catholic Church was invaluable in terms of keeping the West alive after the fall of Rome, but after the Scientific Revolution got going it was a net minus, albeit not a horrendous one.
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Wasn’t Big Bang theorized by a Catholic Priest called La Maitre?
The Church has a formidable intellectual pedegree. You should take a look and see for yourself.
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It does have a formidable pedigree, I just think it was probably holding back Southern Europe. Still, it may provide a useful medium between pure secularism and fundamentalist Christianity in the days to come.
When Vladimir the Great accepted the Orthodox Church in Russia, he was establishing links with the most advanced Christian civilization at the time–Byzantium, the heir of Rome. However, his decision cut Russia off from the developing Civilization of the West. Right decision then based on what he knew and could know, wrong decision in retrospect–but who can know what will happen in a thousand years? Maybe the Church will save Europe again. We can’t know, really.
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BBT is deeply flawed. Basically just another version of “and God said ‘let there be light'”. Pseudo-scientific creationism.
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All Evolutionists are spontaneous generationalists; but they still try to ridicule Creationists.
(((shakin my head)))
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“The Catholic Church was invaluable in terms of keeping the West alive after the fall of Rome, but after the Scientific Revolution got going it was a net minus, albeit not a horrendous one.”
Europe was doing fine before Christianity. They had the ancient Greeks and Romans, who were intellectually more advanced and productive than Christianized Europe was for several centuries. If not for its role in running Islam out of Europe, I would say that the Catholic Church had no net positive role.
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whiskey you fucking dolt. Get the fuck out ——>
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at least he’s not salivating over interracial porn in this post.
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Go grab yourself IF you can find it.
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I think I may have seen it here a while back but, “we’ve spent the past 50 years proving what everybody before us already knew.”
And really, have the traditionalists and the ancients really been wrong on anything in regards to humanity?
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Well, technically, the kind of dropped the ball when it came to things like bleeding and putting flu patients out into the cold under the moon to chase away spirits.
But regarding human nature and basic truths we all accept to this day they had a pretty good batting average, that’s for certain.
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Wasn’t this the point of Charles Murray’s Bell Curve? If so, it had no effect on anything. People will believe what they want to believe, and poverty is big business.
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Well, yes, and the left vilified him.
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Murray’s work was concise and correct, but based more on derived data than on actual scientifically validated genetics. This is the keystone that may end up vindicating him entirely.
” If so, it had no effect on anything. ”
I was around when he published this, and it most certainly did change things, but not for the better. A lot of PC was instituted full frontal force as a result of his work, and the sneering/mockery industry went full bore to try to shame anybody for reading, let alone giving credence to, his work. His work may well be the driving force behind a lot of what we see from the Left these days, with their arrogant name calling ignorance. At the time, prior to his book, they were mostly granola eating but harmless fruitcakes.
“People will believe what they want to believe, and poverty is big business.”
True enough. But, another tool we can use for recruitment against trends in society. The more ammo we have, the more men we can get on our side and on the right page. Eventually there may come a critical mass from such efforts, which is the goal. Then, things will change.
Want a fun example (well too bad, I’m going to write it anyway)?
Women love to declare how they mature faster than men (intellectually). This fact is true, they do mature faster than men. What I love pointing out to men who spout or fall for this line is this:
Intellectual maturity times denote the level of intelligence a given mammal will have. The longer it takes the creature’s brain to mature, the higher the likelihood it will be more intelligent than creatures whose brains do not take as long to mature. A mature brain is less “plastic” and prone to developing new pathways and folds than a developing immature brain. Women do mature faster than men, brain wise, but the rate of brain growth is analogous up to that maturity point, with men continuing for years longer. Hence, men continue to ‘do dumb things’ aka “experiment with life and explore, discover and foul up then learn from experience” than women.
Now, do the math, and you’ll find that the women who snark this are basically truly putting down their entire sex.
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I never thought that women maturing faster than men meant we were more intelligent overall.
I have trouble believing intelligence tests tell the whole story. There have to be different types of intelligence. How is it that I have a reasonably high IQ but I have no 3D object recognition? Not only will I fail any visual-spatial specific intelligence test, I usually have to guess wildly at the answers. I can’t even narrow it down. If we’re going to put so much stock into intelligence testing, we need better metrics.
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There’s visual-spatial, verbal, and logical-mathematical IQ at a minimum, and the tests usually have breakdowns for those. You probably have a high verbal intelligence with lower spatial-visual scores–it’s a pretty common female pattern.
Women with visual-spatial intelligence will frequently express it in a feminine way–they’re the women you see doing elaborate knitting and so on. Similarly, men with high verbal intelligence will use it to write long epics extolling their greatness, whereas women with high verbal intelligence write novels exploring the feelings of the characters.
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“I never thought that women maturing faster than men meant we were more intelligent overall. ”
But most women do. Have you not heard the gloating phrase over and over again from women? I certainly have heard it many times in my life, especially when they get into groups and snark about “dumb men/husbands/daughers-vs.sons”. You may not believe that, and that’s great, but a lot of your sisters do.
>>How is it that I have a reasonably high IQ but I have no 3D object recognition? >>
Because your brain is not wired that way, unlike the minds of men. That was covered a long, long time ago I believe outside of the context of you, I mean men/women in general. Guys excel at 3d mental/spatial modeling inside our own heads compared to women (generally speaking).
>> If we’re going to put so much stock into intelligence testing, we need better metrics.<<
I don't disagree with this. All tools can use constant improvement. The problem, as always, is politics. Our entire society is being re-imagined into a place where the native intelligence of men is being covered up in preference of "feeling" dominated ways of looking at things. IQ tests and academic standards are being purposefully changed to ensure men do not come out on top, and of course we have law to deal with.
It would be nice, if unrealistic, to get a nice set of tools unencumbered by politics to measure intelligence.
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The Stanford Binet is pre-feminism, though… I believe early 1960’s. So I’m not sure feminism is the reason for slanting it toward “female” intelligence.
Maybe the answer is gender-specific tests. Of course pigs will fly before any politician suggests that.
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This silly trope was a favorite of one of my highschool gym teachers; he was one of these “Way of the Peaceful Warrior” proglodyte types.
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“Because your brain is not wired that way, unlike the minds of men. That was covered a long, long time ago I believe outside of the context of you, I mean men/women in general. Guys excel at 3d mental/spatial modeling inside our own heads compared to women (generally speaking). ”
It’s not the strongest indication of a masculinized brain though. The typical aptitude distribution for an East Asian female is almost exactly the same as a white male in terms of their spatial/numerical advantage. East Asian men have an even higher spatial/numerical advantage.
East Asians are a good chunk of the human population, so it’s not really correct to say that men excel at math/spatial stuff while women excel more at verbal stuff. On an aptitude test, an east asian female looks almost like the same thing as a white male.
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I gave a listen yesterday to one of my fave recordings,Rhapsody In Blue by Gershwin. The story of how he wrote it was very interesting:Seems he got paid to create a piece for an upcoming concert. “Cept he forgot! Under presure,he said riding on a train he heard the music,inspired by the clacketty clack of the train,and saw the whole piece in his mind. Pretty cool. But…he died of a brain tumor at the Portal To Pussy young age of 36! He gone! Some guys here and in other sites have spec. that at the upper limits of mental ability things begin to go haywire in the brain. As if we are made to have a certain IQ span and if we exceed it,we may pay. The YKW are loaded with autism,retards and schizos,panic-attacks and you name it. Just sayin.
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Because of genetic bottleneck. Common in endangered species with pop crash. Jews, pogroms, urban plague, Holocaust vastly reduced pop. May explain massive outmarrying.
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This why the Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale is superior to the Binet as it gauges a wider array of intelligence types. The scoring is made up of a performance IQ and a verbal IQ that are then applied to “full-scale” score.
To your point, I took the Binet in 6th grade and scored a 126. A few years ago I took the WAIS and received a 136. My spatial intelligence in terms of matrix and block puzzles were far lower then how I scored on the rest of the rest. I can’t, for the life of me, back my boat into the garage without getting confused. My verbal IQ, verbal fluency in accordance with my hypomania, and rote memorization are extremely high and that pulled my total up.
A lot of folks view “genius” as being a polymath. People like Goethe and Da Vinci or Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting. The truth is there might be one or two people like this on planet earth right now. Most people with gifted intelligence are usually superior in two or three areas and average to above average on the rest.
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Stanford-Binet is useless at the high end of the scale. Acing the vocabulary section makes you unscorable, according to the psych major who tested me in high school.
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The “different types of intelligence” you speak of all strongly correlate with one another, suggesting that there exists some single underlying entity at least partially responsible for them all. This is what people refer to as “g”. And I believe it is the basis for having a single, unified IQ test.
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“How is it that I have a reasonably high IQ but I have no 3D object recognition? Not only will I fail any visual-spatial specific intelligence test, I usually have to guess wildly at the answers.”
Your aptitude disparity may be higher than average, but that’s the typical aptitude distribution for a white woman.
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Do you throw like a girl?
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Because you’re a really feminine female. Vive la difference!
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“Intellectual maturity times denote the level of intelligence a given mammal will have. The longer it takes the creature’s brain to mature, the higher the likelihood it will be more intelligent than creatures whose brains do not take as long to mature.”
The stereotype about women maturing faster is largely about the type of personality they have rather than the time of maturation. Wikipedia notes the following about actual maturation:
“On average, girls begin puberty at ages 10–11; boys at ages 11–12. Girls usually complete puberty by ages 15–17, while boys usually complete puberty by ages 16–17. The major landmark of puberty for females is menarche, the onset of menstruation, which occurs on average between ages 12–13; for males, it is the first ejaculation, which occurs on average at age 13.”
So, there is strong overlap in male and female maturation. Females seem to potentially start and end just slightly earlier, but again, the range of maturation time is almost the same. So, it’s not actually true. Women don’t mature faster.
IQ tests produce about a 3-5 advantage for males on average. However, if you break this down by aptitude type, there are some types were women score higher on average. It would be easy to accidentally create an incorrectly designed IQ test where women score higher on average (it has been done many times), but it would be very difficult to create a test where blacks outscore whites as whites have higher aptitude than blacks on all types of intelligence types.
It is actually remarkable that men have such a small intelligence advantage over women because their brains are much larger and much faster. The difference in size between a male an female brain is quite a bit larger than the difference is size between a white and black brain. But there IQ disparity between blacks and whites is a standard deviation while it is only a few points between sexes and not consistently found in all aptitude types. It seems that either the female mind arises differently from the female brain than the male mind arises from the male brain or men use all of their extra brain mass on functions unrelated to intelligence.
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Nah, I think “The Bell Curve” did a lot of good, it confirmed what a lot of people intuitively felt strongly, especially those who had tried to “uplift” the black man and found it was not at all the sort of challenge they had any idea how to deal with.
It made the left very angry because they were weakened. Before that they would quietly enact their whole agenda and nobody could speak against them. Would that be better, to slide helplessly into oblivion? To complete race-mixing before the differences between the races could even be measured or identified? Once it’s all mixed up, they’d be safe.
So it made more of a fuss, but it was a fuss from a position of weakness. And the fuss does cost them and exhaust them, as well as alienating potential allies. Now blacks are in even a more tenuous position, having to fight for limited affirmative action slots against hispanics, while those hispanics are vulnerable to a similar analysis to keep their bullshit level down too. I have never been scared of them, because I can always just point back to the data. Never seen any effective comeback against that.
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You never read the The Bell Curve so stop with the queef laden rhetorical.
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Actually, I have. I realize this doesn’t fit into your “all women are drooling morons” paradigm, but you’ll have to cope.
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Newbs, take notes: This is what qualifying looks like.
You’re welcome.
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Oh, I’m qualifying. Just not to you.
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“…you’ll have to cope.”
I could cope with a fistful of fresh and steaming dogshit, only I can’t be bothered. The reward is simply not worth the effort.
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Touche’
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I’ve read bits of it.
Not all of it.
And I was a fan at the time. I skimmed the summary sections and read it backwards.
Who reads these days anyway?
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Your excitement is rather misplaced on this one.
There are actually quite a few genes like this. See this (via Elijah Armstrong):
Factor Analysis of Population Allele Frequencies as a Simple, Novel Method of Detecting Signals of Recent Polygenic Selection: The Example of Educational Attainment and IQ
Within he talks about 10 or so such genes that have been linked to IQ.
The problem? All told, they only explain about 2% of the variance in IQ!
[CH: Nowhere did I write that this wasn’t the case. “It’s happening” means that there will likely be future discoveries that add to the sum total of discovered genes found directly responsible for IQ boosts. The fact that even one such genetic variant is found is more than enough to silence the cultural mass of leftoid malcontents who have been claiming since they could babble that intelligence is solely the function of environmental influence.]
This particular variant is only associated with 0.5% of the variance.
Unfortunately, many of these hits have thus far to date been false positives. This is especially so in a sample so small (~1,600). GWAS reports estimate requiring samples approaching 1 million to make reliable hits. This one could be, and likely is, another dud.
Actually, the single best piece of evidence to silence the debate over whether or not IQ is linked to genetics is the work of Peter Visscher. Using genome-wide complex trait analysis (GCTA), Visscher and his team found that common genetic variants can explain at least 50% of the variance in IQ. They did this by taking a population sample and comparing the degree of shared genetic variation between unrelated individuals. This doesn’t tell you which genetic variants matter, but it does buttress behavioral genetic studies that show the very high heritability of IQ.
[As the precision of computational genomics advances, behavioral and cross-sectional cohort analyses wil yield to direct identification of individual genes and gene clusters and their effects. Once that barrier is breached, creating a post-human becomes a technical challenge instead of a theoretical one.]
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No worries. As soon as it’ll be discovered that this ‘intelligence gen’ is spread inequally throughout the different races this finding will be condemned as “RACIST” and therefore “unscientific”.
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The Chinese won’t care about “raycism” charges…
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The Chinese Chinese wont care,but the American Chinese will!
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The gentleman’s name is Ray Ciss. Show some respect!
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Don’t forget his Chinese cousin… Nah Zee.
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Mee Suk Yung Dong, Hu Yoo. Foo Kyu Ma Fa,etc etc
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Oh Yu Geh Gai.
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The linked article consistently refers to an expressed gene, so I wonder if there is a way to “game the system”. I would be willing to bet that you can significantly impact the other genetic factors that control the expression of this particular gene, through environmental stimuli.
A child born with a lower expressing variant could be put into an intellectually stimulating environment that could significantly “up express” that gene, and vice versa with someone born with the higher variant. In fact, I think that is what is happening in our society with the significant dumbing down of our educational curricula, and the advent of modern media. We are no longer selecting for K factor, and it will be taking a significant toll over the next few decades.
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Michel’s suicide was an ending of a miserable, emotionless life of a half autistic person. From what I remember in the book, his scientific legacy seems to be quite distanced from that very act.
(Btw, young girls should be forced to read this book – they have to read all that junk like Anna Karenina and Madame Bovary in school and listen to all that crap how those mighty characters will teach them about life…. and in this novel they get such a clear picture of what their destiny might look like even if they look like an angel – abortions, solitude, loneliness and complete emotional failure).
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Both Karenina and Bovary contain much truth about hypergamy, among other things. The problem is that girls read the books as girls, and so they are not taught the real lesson – Karenina gets her Alpha, sure, and winds up dead under a train, for example. Five minutes of Alpha may be more thrilling than five years of Beta, but is it worth five minutes under a train being shredded?
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In school we did Anna Karenina and I wrote in length about the slavery of women in patriarchal Russia and how terribly treated women were. I never even read the damn book, and got straight As because of that the whole semester. Conclusion – even if there might be valuable lessons from that book, reading them in the context of today’s schools is just pouring gasoline on fire. On the other hand, Houellebecq gives us such a crystal clear picture of humans completely wrecked with modern values and an open sexual market. Bruno and Anabelle are tragic characters of modern age, world of cocks and cunts, lack of trust and love, annihilation of family and kin, antidepressants and boredom. Kids could dig this. They don’t dig a 19th century rag who is trying to get her pussy wet through 900 pages.
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“Kids … They don’t dig a 19th century rag who is trying to get her pussy wet through 900 pages.”
Challenge them around 10-11 y.o. You’d be surprised.
e.g. My son digs The Psalms…
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Reading was not used to be about getting pussy wet
In any case for great majority of women reading is waste of time, simply because the world of ideas is profoundly alien to them
As for Ana Karenina, Madame Bovary and I would add Effie Briest all written about the same time,all about adultery, are great books and represent in a certain way represent a turning point in the western literature
It is said that initially Tolstoy attempted to portray Anna as selfish adaltress but gradually got seduced by his own creation and ended by essential caricaturing her husband as weak and selfish
Than came finally Heinrick Ibsen, who created in Heda Gabler one of the most if not the most diabolical woman of western literature and theater
The play is just must see,but be subversive and bring a feminist and/or liberal cunt with you
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Ooh! An Ibsen fan. Let me add A Doll’s House and Ghosts to the list as well.
http://eradica.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/reviews-of-movies-you-should-see-ghosts/
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Roxana- Defoe
Vanity Fair- Thackery
Gone with the Wind- Mitchell
McTeague- Norris
Sister Carrie- Dreiser
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If the intelligence gene is propagated there is hope. Otherwise it makes no difference because idiots can’t understand the truth.
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Intelligence gene discovered… but not here…. not here.
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Where’s thwack? I’m sure he’s delighted at the news, confirms that Whites stole all dem African scientific discoveries.
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He especially likes to hold that “walking upright” breakthrough against us.
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Damn bipeds!
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mother fuckin tetrapods
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What does it mean if you can’t read and write music?
I didn’t say “play”.
I said READ and WRITE.
Why isn’t that part of the IQ test or SAT?
After all, it is a language with a heavy mathamatical component?
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Musical notation and harmony and melody are White inventions. Sorry for that White privelege
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How many original compositions have you produced?
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Thwack, you wouldn’t be interested in the songs I’ve written… for one, they heavily favor lyrical melody and many are best suited for the stage.
The only stage people would like to see you on is the next one out of town, pardner.
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Greg,
Although the cause is hopeless, I’d like to thank you for your persistent attempts to…..
detox
thwack’s
brainbox.
Your check for $5,000 is in the mail.
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Beyond the Valley of the D(r)olls.
I’m returning your check… I consider bouncing here at the chateau as pro bono work. 😉
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He is still on an approach vector to Giza, flight time approximately 43 minutes to get the ancient craft back into the atmosphere. He will be along shortly after that…
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Hey Jay,
those pyramids did not build themselves?
If it wasn’t black men, it was probably little GREEN men from outer space right?
The head is bobbin cause the neck knows:
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Little brown men built the Pyramids. Black guys built …. I’ll get back to you when they do.
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the beat.
Eat your heart out David Byrne:
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http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/10-inventions-by-african-americans.htm#page=10
Inventions by African Americans…wow they rock!
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thwack, I like Fela Kuti. Or I have on heavy drugs. Did he maybe steal this from some honkies? Stay blue, bro
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Eff Kay rocks
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Jt,
– The earliest patents for train telegraphs go back to at least 1873. Lucius Phelps was the first inventor in the field to attract widespread notice, and the telegrams he exchanged on the New York, New Haven & Hartford railroad in January 1885 were hailed in the Feb. 21, 1885 issue of Scientific American as “perhaps the first ever sent to and from a moving train.”
– The automatic “displacement lubricator” for steam engines was developed in 1860 by John Ramsbottom of England, and notably improved in 1862 by James Roscoe of the same country. The “hydrostatic” lubricator originated no later than 1871.
– English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting.
– During World War I, Dr. Oswald H. Robertson of the US army preserved blood in a citrate-glucose solution and stored it in cooled containers for later transfusion. This was the first use of “banked” blood. By the mid-1930s the Russians had set up a national network of facilities for the collection, typing, and storage of blood. Bernard Fantus, influenced by the Russian program, established the first hospital blood bank in the United States at Chicago’s Cook County Hospital in 1937.
– The US Postal Service says that “Street boxes for mail collection began to appear in large [US] cities by 1858.” They appeared in Europe even earlier, according to historian Laurin Zilliacus:
Mail boxes as we understand them first appeared on the streets of Belgian towns in 1848. In Paris they came two years later, while the English received their ‘pillar boxes’ in 1855.
– The invention of the gas mask predates Morgan’s breathing device by several decades. Early versions were constructed by the Scottish chemist John Stenhouse in 1854 and the physicist John Tyndall in the 1870s, among many other inventors prior to World War I.
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Inventions by white guys… wow, they rock!
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Anyone who reads about Egypt can tell you that their civilization declined and then fell as a result of importing Nubians as wives, possibly because of the SMP at that time, similar to how some guys get Asian or Eastern European women as wives in the USA and UK. Nubians were written about in Egyptian writings we have available – they were portrayed as being much darker. Basically, Egyptians destroyed their society by having kids only with the Nubians.
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You’re not even a white person, why should I listen to you?
Wheres my rope?
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Wouldn’t it be great news for any egalitarian?
Just set up some government program that funds essential “improvements,” like intelligence, for less well-off individuals/groups. Seems fine.
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But they’d have to implicitly acknowledge that there is inequality that makes some better than others in a given realm. That is, frankly, beyond their ability. They can NOT admit error in their dogma, that is anathema.
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Ya they’d be able to once the “cure” is found. Idk, I’d be fine with it too. Seems like a great solution to a lot of problems. Government subsidizes basic genetic improvements = more useful human capital = renaissance of the West.
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guy with his thumb in his ass intellectually on most any issue is “fine with it” .. like cows at a passing train .. please stop ..
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Has genoplasty (I’m sure ginaplasty is well advanced) developed that far?
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But, but, but, wait, does this mean that evolution applies to humans, too? And it doesn’t stop at the neck?
Oh, noes…
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Racist Game.
I recently had a sequence of conquests after developing a racist attitude. It wasn’t game per se.
However the ladies I bedded were all Scandinavian and quite liberal. They reacted in a form of horror to me bitching about blacks and browns. Then I somehow finagled a few conquests. I’m decent looking, bohemian, artistic, dark hair blue eyes.
The basic info was all culled off of the more erudite ethno-nationalist sites like SBPDL and others… If you do it jokingly and avoid expressing this stuff as a loser (your own good looks are a control factor) and show how fuvking ugly liberalism is, these women self actualize and realize how much they have been lied too.
The catch is you have to also bash Limbaugh and the GOP at the same time. You cannot tell em to vote GOP. You have to remain outside of establishment norms to pull off the routine. It helps if you actually know the facts and stats.
Tips for cynics.
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Light n Fluffy, always Light n Fluffy with the ladies.
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Exactly.
If you also claim to be a liberal “only months ago” they ask:
“who did this to you.”
I replied, I merely realized that the dung Beatle got around to inventing the wheel millions of years before the African…
It gets a chuckle.
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Beetle
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lol Now that’s funny!
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the dung Beatle got around to inventing the wheel millions of years before the African
Credit where due though… the dung Beatle admitted being influenced by earlier works of the Berry Borer.
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The Berry Borer having been backed up for a while by the Irish Sav Ant. OK sorry
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It’s not racist game, it’s strong identity game. None of these women are realizing the truth of anything. They’re just falling into your frame. Women will fall into whatever viewpoint you have about anything when your game/frame is strong. Next.
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Did it without gaming. Found this site realized it might be something for people to play around with.
Works extremely well if you follow the protocols.
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Lol. Then you were gaming without realizing you were gaming. I’m telling you why what you did worked.
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I know, that’s what I thought was interesting about the experience.
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It’s also an accessible identity. Women can take on this identity with Survivor’s help, then they feel very close to him. If I am really into electrical engineering and convey that to a girl, she will mainly be impressed that it’s something that can earn money, but she can’t identify with it herself or do it without at least years of effort first. So that’s distant.
The combination of racy, and comfort, is pretty genius, I like it.
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left brain wins again
follow up study: how much NPTN before you go full sperg
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It’s polygenic, I’m sure. 0 smart genes, you’re a drooling idiot. 10 smart genes, you’re a ghetto dude. 15, you’re a redneck. 20, you’re an average Joe. 30, you’re a clever businessman. 40, you’re head of the Dungeons and Dragons Club.
More is good, too much is bad.
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Nice pull on Gattaca….I use “gattaca” as a verb as in “gattaca your room” aka “clean up your shit” to my 15yr old daughter.
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there are lots of genes related to intelligence, that are already known and discussed.
you know what would be subversive? diff the average negro genome with the average white and asian genomes, and start looking for intelligence genes there
sperm donors and convicts can supply iq and genome data too
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‘Although the genetic variation identified in this study only accounts for an estimated 0.5 per cent of the total variation in intelligence.’
shit, i risk 50 basis points on a trade
tis’ but a dribblet
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The third way: Gattaca, Attica and Idiocracy.
The elite overlords will still need low IQ human cattle to do the “dirty work” and be cannon fodder for whatever other wars or invasions they want to start.
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Serious question: Can you think of any way in which heritability of intelligence (or racial differences in intelligence) should impact public policy? Does all this theory have a sensible real world application?
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I wonder what all those football players are thinking about that flaming homo?
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Don’t let the organs of information dissemination fool you: the great majority of heterosexual blacks do not accept homosex. I’d imagine the blacks in the NFL are whispering abuse to family, coworkers and friends. Same for most whites, too.
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Bullshit. Most young people of average to below average IQ (as is the case with almost all football players), of any race, simply believe what’s popular because on the deepest level they prioritize social acceptance above all else. The tide of popular belief is obviously turning hard toward gay acceptance, so this guy should be fine for the foreseeable future.
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I just wish the guy was a quarterback. Whatever NFL team drafted him, can you imagine the text messages their starting center would get from the other linemen on draft day?
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He’s projected as about a fifth round draft pick.
I don’t see why he needs to make a team.
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So what can come of this — perhaps not much? Let’s see:
– A step toward genetic engineering for intelligence? I say ‘nah’ for a number of reasons. One, some types of intelligence enhancement technologies have been around for a long time. So many single mothers, and not one — except Jodie Foster — availed herself of tall, blond medical student sperm at a fertility clinic. From the standpoint of procreative self-interest, every fat deformed ghetto Shaniqua, every sleek sassy sistah, every fat white prole woman would be well served, even on her own terms, with Dolph Lundgren’s genes. Yet, that is not the genetic destiny they seek.
And on the high end of theoretical possibilities in intelligence enhancement… I suspect that it’s a non-starter. One, elites and upper middle class are intelligent enough and there would be diminishing returns on tinkering with their genes. Two, intelligence is likely a complex thing and undesired side effects may come with messing with genes.
– A step toward HBD realism? I suspect that the ruling classes know the score. Anyone else noticed that after “The Bell Curve,” the uplift narrative gave way to “fuck you whitey just because” narrative vis-a-vis blacks — and mass Mestizo immigration was initiated to replace whatever remained not just of the black working class, but of any pretense that blacks perform productive work?
There is a possibility of amped-up genetic communism, wherein white family formation is clamped down on even more. On that one, let’s hope that RealTalk and other factors bring down our enemy elite.
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“every fat deformed ghetto Shaniqua, every sleek sassy sistah, every fat white prole woman would be well served, even on her own terms, with Dolph Lundgren’s genes. Yet, that is not the genetic destiny they seek. ”
I’m not a ghetto Shaniqua, but I too would be better served with Dolph’s frozen sperm if my goal was to create some all around all star child. But that’s hardly anyone’s goal. Most people want to create a child with someone they love or admire- even if that love or admiration is very temporary. At the time people conceive their child, the women generally feels that she is so deeply fond of the guy that she wants his baby. It’s the unified product of their love. You don’t get that from a sperm donor you don’t know.
But tinkering with a gene here and a gene there doesn’t violate the sense of having produced a child with someone you love. Technically, if you replace your child’s genes with a bunch of other genes, it is making it more like someone else’s offspring, but it doesn’t have that feeling. It just feels like you are making small enhancements to your natural child.
Aside form that, sperm donation and artificial insemination is very expensive and Shaniquas of the ghetto have children so they can collect welfare money. So it makes no sense for them to spend money on making a child when they could make a child for free.
I think there will be high demand for gene therapy for intelligence once it is affordable.
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little spoon
I think there will be high demand for gene therapy for intelligence once it is affordable.
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You could start your company right now little spoon, and instead of spending millions on technology, R&D, and staff to produce an effective therapy, just spend a few thousand to make your clients think you did.
Sell them the fake gene therapy for intelligence “product” and the parents will do the rest.
The resulting children will have a high IQ because the parents will assume they are gifted due to the therapy. The parents will treat them like they are gifted, educate them like they are gifted, interact with them like they are gifted…
and as a result, the child will act like they are gifted.
No parent could or would even want to prove the gene therapy for intelligence work they paid thousands for was fake or ineffective.
Its also known as “the coaches son syndrome.”
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Dude, putting a kid in a crash helmet does not make them a retard. Treating a kid like they’re gifted will not make them gifted. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
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The Afrocentrist Cathedral has long had a litany of negro underachievement due to environment and “the way they were treated”.
So part of their belief system is they can be white if’n us whites would only treat ’em as white.
History has shown, and continues to show, the results of that ill-founded social experiment.
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Greg Eliot
The Afrocentrist Cathedral has long had a litany of negro underachievement due to environment and “the way they were treated”.
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Let me teach your children and not only could I get them to kill you, I could get them to kill each other AND themselves; using nothing more than words.
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Why Blacks are not popular on Youtube? there are more Asian Americans like Ryan Higa or Michelle Phan there, than African Americans, I am talking about producers of their own content, not the likes like Rihanna that are singers that mostly don’t produce their own music and only give the voice and body images too.
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Miss me with that n166er-babble, boy…
And for the record I knew Jim Jones, and you’re no Jim Jones.
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I got treated like a white person and look at me?
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Pass.
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Consider the twin studies cited in “The Bell Curve”. It’s mostly nature, not nurture. This is settled science.
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Then why are you white guys promoting “game” as a SIMP antidote for white males?
After all, It’s mostly nature, not nurture. This is settled science.
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Game is the way for spergs and other high IQ folks to emulate naturals and get the results for themselves. IQ is a flexible thing, it can be applied to most any goal you have.
You’ve been here this long and you didn’t even know that?
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FamilyMan
Game is the way for spergs and other high IQ folks to emulate naturals and get the results for themselves. IQ is a flexible thing, it can be applied to most any goal you have
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Hold on, lets slooooow down a bit.
What you are saying is intelligence, i.e, how smart you are, is dependent on a person genetics and is therefore not remediable by practical improvements in environment.
Then you say “game”, the ability to bed females, is NOT dependent on genetics and therefore IS remediable by practical improvements in environment.
Is that what you are saying?
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For the same reason athletes have coaches.
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Would athletes refuse to compete if coaches did not exist?
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Refuse to compete? Heck they wouldn’t even be in an organized sport. You think athletes are going to run the business? Only rare ones can do that.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if future studies show that genes account for how well or poorly neurotransmitters work in the brain, but let’s not forget that intelligence isn’t necessarily fixed. There was a study where participants played Tetris for 30 minutes a day for three months. FMRI scans were taken before and after the study, and the results showed greater brain efficiency and a thicker cortex. You can read about the study here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090901082851.htm
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Bring on Gattaca.
All women ever born in first world countries are HBBs. Yes Please!
If there ever was time that equalism would work, it would take a technological breakthrough such as mass gene manipulated eugenics to make it happen. Traditionally Marxism has always ‘worked’ by trying to tear down the minority of the superior to the gutters with majority inferior. At no time has it ever been possible to bring everybody up to the level of actually being excellent in areas such as intelligence, facial symmetry and athleticism.
Of course the technology would be extremely expensive and only available to the rich countries, thus keeping the old immutable dichotomy of the Haves and the Have nots, just on a more macro level.
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Unrelated:
http://www.viralnova.com/father-letter-to-daughter/
Laughably dramatic headline followed by a nauseating mass of vapid, substanceless far left emotional BS is the new norm in online content. Looks like upworthy.com has some serious competition.
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I missed the part where the NTPN gene was on the Y chromosome.
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There’s a traditional belief that a baby inherits its mother’s brains and its father’s body type. If the NPTN gene is on the X chromosome, it’s consistent.
Ugly sperg scoring a hot but mentally vacant fashion model (or at least Victoria Secret model.) He’s got it made, right? Yes until his ugly stupid children appear.
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Since when has the “truth” (especially scientific studies) about anything mattered in politics?
Look at the food we eat and all the bogus studies that are referenced in convincing people that we thrive on shit that we never ate in the history of our existence. The drugs that are routinely pushed on people by doctors and big pharma en masse, yet the diseases they supposedly treat are the top causes of mortality.
Any legitimate study that doesn’t serve the interest of those with the most influence, especially ones that undermine it, can and have been silenced or proven wrong pseudo scientifically.
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Doctors don’t push drugs on me or my family because I know the magic word. “No.”
Annual checkup, doctor asked if I wanted a flu shot as he was probably required to do under Obamacare. I said “no” immediately and firmly. He said “OK, no problem.”
BTW haven’t had the flu at all this winter. Even if I had, I’d rather have the flu than the shot. And I am in the old age range where they are now pushing the shot.
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stop this. I’ll do what whatever you want my family is innocent of this. they have done nothing to deserve this. please stop this. i will do whatever you want. I don’t want to be an example. Please don’t make an example of my family. they have done everything right. they are hardworking honest people. my crimes are not theirs. I’ll do whatever you want. I had to know the real limits. I’m sorry. I had no idea of the full extent of the power. please. please. please. let my family go. if you want to take me, take me. leave my family alone. they have done nothing wrong. please stop this. I’ll do whatever you want. I’m all yours. please I’m begging you. I’m nothing but a slave. you are right. Please stop this. Tell me what you want me to do. I know nothing. I promise I will work hard. Tell me what you want me to do. I have much to offer. give me a chance. i can do more than most people. it is a waste of a valuable asset.
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I don’t get it. Why are you babbling like this?
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It is funny how this site goes. Science finds a genetic component to intelligence you applaud , science finds a genetic component to homosexually you deny. This research fails to link intelligence to race, parental involvement, natal and early life nutrition or economic factors and points to a single gene and proformance on a single test. It is a start but far from the holy grail. I work in biotech and I am currently finishing a MD / PhD program so trust me on this , wait for the replication studies before you accept this research as absolute fact.
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False. I don’t deny that some have genes that often cause homosexuality. Nice try. But leftists like you deny the fact that many caught in a moment of weakness, like many who are victims of pedophiles, are pushed toward homosexuality. Women who have been raped and molested make up 43 percent of women in the homosexual subculture – their fear of men goes untreated and they are urged every day through schools, media and other propaganda to avoid men and turn to women instead. Likewise the percentage of men in the homo subculture who were molested or raped by men – by homosexuals – is very high, though I don’t have the exact figures right now. These are men who follow that common pattern, to become obsessed with the thing that hurt them, in order to “master” it so they don’t have to feel bad about what happened to them. (Also the reason why some women who are raped become sluts.) In this they are encouraged by the media. And therapists are forbidden to warn them from this sick way of dealing with what has happened to them.
Also, three quarters of women who turn to the homosexual subculture are obese. Oops. But surely that has nothing to do with them turning away from the normal dating market where they are shunned by men, right?
Studies also show that the majority of those in the homosexual subculture only stay there for a few years. These are degenerates who are also often alcoholics and drug addicts. They simply turn to “gay culture” as yet another easy way to get a fix, in this case to get easy sex.
so trust me on this , wait for the replication studies — Ohh, a PhD, then you are the one who needs to be “trusted”. As opposed to Watson, the man who led the effort to map the human genome, and who speaks of genetic differences in intelligence. I suppose his credentials are not as good as yours, oh Mr PhD?
And of course, without any proof to counter a study, you simply try to bury it by saying “there are no replication studies!” Typical leftist tactics, stall and try to change the subject. Unless you can simply censor and erase the offending fact.
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I do not know you, I did not reply to you. I was talking about this site and CH who called the gay gene a germ in past comments. Male and female homosexuality are very different as men and women are. Furthermore I am not a leftist I am a scientist, you are not. Lastly replication studies are always the standard when dealing with peer reviewed studies to see if their hypothesis holds true when done by others with no investment in the results. The publish or perish nature of academic research requires this, if you want to know why look at the cancer research and the subsequent replication studies. Go to college, go to graduate school, take statistical analysis , do research in biotechnology, biotech patents, then work for a drug company , then enter an MD/ PhD program with a focus on biochemistry and genetics then tell me what you know. I have worked on cancer drug trials where the efficacy of the original research was in excess of 65 percent, during the expedited drug trials we were hitting 3 percent , within the margin of error meaning no efficacy. Subsequent replication studies were within standard deviation as well. My point being you always wait for outside replication studies before you hold the research as valid. I hope I illuminated you , and you will know what you are talking about before you make uninformed emotional responses to statements not directed to you.
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Thinking in terms of “cause of homosexuality” is not precisely scientific. As Arbiter said, some people are just pulled inside the scene, but on the other hand there are guys who behave like girls since childhood. David Bowie was gay because it was cool, and a guy from my class behaved like a girl since he was 11. Difference.
One should not make scientific generalizations on the basis of everyday language, and I believe both Arbiter and you are making a mistake in treating both homosexuality as one type of behavior and the cause of homosexuality as only one possible cause.
Btw, I am not a scientist, I am an engineer – and I know not only how to cook the numbers in any way you want me to, I also know that a motivated investor can make people much smarter than me ignore the fact that we’re working on a shit project in global, and make them be very precise and truthful in details. So, your PhD may say something about your knowledge of the field, but is in no direct correlation to clear thinking on that matter as a whole.
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I never said there was one cause, or one type of homosexuality. I do appreciate your reasoned response, I wish we could talk outside of these comments and I could show you some research I have done. As an engineer you would have no trouble understanding my statistical methodology and you would see it is sound.
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Medical statistics is the very bottom of the barrel, almost an oxymoron, I remember a girl flunked out of the Stats doctoral program at my grad school because she was seen to be a moron (because she was), but she was welcomed into Medical Stats (run thru the Med school) and graduated with no problem with her PhD in Medical Statistics.
This is not to say your methodology is unsound, heck I haven’t even seen it.
Good point about replication studies.
The point people may be thinking, but not saying, is that amid all this statistics, things are not coming out that they KNOW to be true. Sometimes anecdotes are better than statistics, especially if the statistics are very imprecise and riddled with problems. Even if those problems are endemic to the research question and are not the fault of the researchers.
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Bring my popcorn, woman!
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Well I just read that that William Burroughs dude(“Naked Lunch”,Ginsburg,Kerouac etc) was,as he recalls,forced to suck the dick of his nanny’s boyfriend. (Now,force your GF to coerce others into having sex with you. Alpha! But its a 4 yr old BOY. Not so alpha!) He became a notorious gay icon. Is that why he was gay? BTW I dont know if the nanny or her boyfriend were black. That ‘d explain a lot. (Just teasin’ thwacksta)
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lol. Silly faggots, dicks are for chicks.
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Then you should know that most “scientific studies” are neither truly peer reviewed and almost zero of them are replicated, ever.
I assume you haven’t been too busy to follow up on the study done in our own field of biotech by Amgen….where they found that most of the foundational scientific studies in our field could not be replicated.
“During a decade as head of global cancer research at Amgen, C. Glenn Begley identified 53 “landmark” publications — papers in top journals, from reputable labs — for his team to reproduce. Begley sought to double-check the findings before trying to build on them for drug development.
Result: 47 of the 53 could not be replicated. He described his findings in a commentary piece published on Wednesday in the journal Nature.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/28/us-science-cancer-idUSBRE82R12P20120328
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Thank you for proving my point, even if you did not intend to. 47 out of 53 could not be replicated, which means do not believe it till you verify it through replication. Science is not subjective, it is or it is not, if it is do it again.
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so do we have an extra bone in our foot or not?
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How would I know. I have probably never touched a black person’s foot in my life.
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How are you not completely positive about such a thing?
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Are you suggesting that this website dabbles in some confirmation bias?
No it doesn’t. Look, here’s one example that proves as much………………..
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Well we know it wasn’t discovered in a woman…or one of thwack’s subhumans brothers…
Rape!
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Quick question: When you flash people, has anyone ever just sat there and laughed?
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No, but the stadium organ player once did break into a rendition of “Is That All There Is?”
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Just your mom. In delight. Because she enjoys the rape! That’s how she got you.
Rape!
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whorefinder
Well we know it wasn’t discovered in a woman…or one of thwack’s subhumans brothers…
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Speaking of subhumans, Ive noticed that from time to time when you guys are tearing into Obama, or ripping some black leader a new A-hole, 1 or 2 white guys gotta chime in with the obligatory “Now Farahkan is the black leader I can respect…”
I understand why you could admire a black leader who names the ooj, and calls for separation. But in this internet age of shallow knowledge, Im remind my white brothers that Farahkan’s call for separation is NOT based on some kind of mutual respect or an appreciation for true diversity… To the contrary, he wants black people to separate from you cause he thinks you are the devil.
He says the white man is evil because he was created to be evil by a mad scientist named Yacub who produced white people the same way white people produce white lab rats.
Im not making this up. The Farahkkkan has an entire cosmology regarding the white mans evil origin and his impending destruction.
Are the white people who praise Farahkan aware of this? Or do they know and not care?
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Separation at any price.
It happens de facto anyway.
Might as well make it legal.
They could be shuffled into Florida and a wall could be built to contain them.
Warm weather, beaches, a place to shit.
It’s a win win.
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You could be shuffled into a cold,damp cave and held there by a beam of sunlight.
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Who is “Farakhan”? Never heard of him.
Now, Louis Wolcott, AKA “Louis Farrakhan”, he’s a cult leader with loony, race based ideas that have no basis in fact…
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You’re just jealous because he reminds everyone that you are of your father.
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But in this internet age of shallow knowledge, Im remind my white brothers that Farahkan’s call for separation is NOT based on some kind of mutual respect or an appreciation for true diversity… To the contrary, he wants black people to separate from you cause he thinks you are the devil.
Who cares what be the reason, as long as desideratum is achieved?
Wha? You think it would hurt YT’s feelings that the separation wasn’t due to (ahem) mutual respect? LLZOOZLZLZOZOZLZLZLZOZOZLZLZLZL
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Greg Eliot
Wha? You think it would hurt YT’s feelings that the separation wasn’t due to (ahem) mutual respect?
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Yes Greg.
The major cause of the white mans spiritual and emotional deficit is his fear of rejection; and is thus not remediable through increasing scientific and technical improvments of his IQ.
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Do you actually believe this incessant n166er-babble of yours (and others like you, Nicole for one).
I always thought it was just a defense-mechanism… a sort of verbal Rooney rifle that scatters bullshit in all directions in order to disperse a crowd and give the appearance of victory.
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lol. Poor stupid obama son (but that’s redundant). So dumb, he thinks I said something about Farahk….Farrakk…about the Muslim Darkie Leader.
Wrong again, my stupid little pet.
Rape!
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Good enough for me. I don’t care what his reason is, only that the goal be achieved. The black people can think they are freed of the white devil. Win-win!
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Question: if there was a way to give people genes that increase their intelligence, but because of finances or other obstacles it couldn’t be given to every single human being, would the socialists … A. approve of this improvement, that would obviously benefit mankind as a whole, or B. try to ban it?
We don’t need to ask, of course. If the Left truly wanted to improve society they would approve of this, but their real purpose is simply to win elections in order to get a place at the trough. Aside from the monetary bribes to their voters, they offer ideological bribes by pretending that the low, no matter what the category, are as good as the high in that category, or that they are far better people and the high are evil, or that there are no differences. Also, fewer dumb people would mean fewer leftist voters. Fewer poor people would mean fewer leftist voters. Therefore they do everything they can to increase poverty and lower average IQ through dumbed-down schools and Third World mass immigration. Note the leftists who reply here – their gut reaction is hatred toward a scientific study that shows differences between people and that could possibly lead to an improvement of intelligence in the future. Leftists hate improvement.
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Question: Why do you not know anything but act as if you do? Do you even know how genetic codes are implanted on existing DNA strands? Which is better to accomplish implantation viruses or bacteria ? What are other measures of intelligence aside from IQ tests? Which institution mapped the human genome ? What role does PH play in genetics? What are four beneficial mutations that have occurred on the human genome in the last 7,000 years ( hint : there are 45 documented beneficial mutations and 105 possibles) ? What role do telomeres play in aging? Where did humans common ancestor originate? Which political party denies evolution? Which political party limited stem cell research and restricted the use of discarded fetuses? Does politics matter? Does your vote matter? Do you think who is president matters or that it changes anything?
I am going out on a limb here but I think you are emotional, uninformed, and prone to cherry picking studies to support a preexsisting agenda. Stay out of scientific research until you can grasp what you are reading. If you wish to know what you are talking about regarding genetics Wikipedia is not going to cut it. Seriously, go to community college take the biology AA degree prerequisites and then reveiw the research about the genetic basis of intelligence. Right now you sound astoundingly ignorant of scientific procedure and foundation of genetics.
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Atlanta Man
What are four beneficial mutations that have occurred on the human genome in the last 7,000 years ( hint : there are 45 documented beneficial mutations and 105 possibles)
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Hey Atlanta Man, can you link me to the list of beneficial mutations?
I have this big knot growing out of the side of my neck and, well, ya know… Im kinda wondering, well hoping that its on the list kindasortamaybe?
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lol what about C, which I suggested above, have the government promote a type of ‘Genetic Welfare.’ People get the basics — intelligence, height, whatever-the-fuck-you-need-to-avoid-diabetes/heart-disease/cancer.
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Quick question.
I’ve got a hot assistant director working under me. Half my age, nearly. 23 me 39.
Any generalized ideas for bagging her? She is excellent support beaver, seems to follow commands and is enthusiastic around me. general stuff. I’m in the Boss Zone…
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Yeah. Don’t shit where you eat. Go out to a bar/club/ANYWHERE and hit on the millions of girls who are a) hot and b) younger.
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Even if she says she already knows, teach her how to swing a golf club correctly.
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You ungreatful bitches; this is why I don’t share my pro tips with you.
A ni66a can’t even get a shoutout up in this muhfuggah.
You know you gonna use my tip.
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Atlanta Man
What are four beneficial mutations that have occurred on the human genome in the last 7,000 years ( hint : there are 45 documented beneficial mutations and 105 possibles)
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Hey Atlanta Man, can you link me to the list of beneficial mutations?
I have this big knot growing out of the side of my neck and, well, ya know… Im kinda wondering, well hoping that its on the list kindasortamaybe?
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The boss zone is a good place to get fucked.
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How IS the porno biz these days?
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YA REALLY/LTR gentlemen.
my girl of 2 years went out with her gf to a bar last night. im cool with that as she always goes dt when im bouncing weekends.
i asked her who she met up with and she hesitated, looked away, then said that it was a few guys from her work (popular steakhouse) and a girl from there.
turns out she was texting one of the guys a few nights back when we were watching Blade Runner. i asked who that was and she said it was a guy from work. she met that guy at the pub last night. apparently this guy isn’t much to look at or whatever – that isn’t the point.
point is she did this behind my back, lack of communication, hiding shit etc.
so i told her tonight isn’t a good night, and told her to leave my pad.
i’ve had issues in the past with this. no cheating obviously but hiding shit most definitely. always having to ask what she did the night before blah blah. her excuse to that was i wasn’t texting her last night, when really i texted her twice at midnight and 130am.
how long should i soft next. v-day is in tomorrow and really, fuck her. we haven’t fucked in roughly 5-6 days.
end o’ the line?
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time to turn into a ghost.
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no cheating obviously
and then…. but hiding shit most definitely. always having to ask what she did the night before blah blah. her excuse to that was i wasn’t texting her last night, when really i texted her twice at midnight and 130am.
Is it obvious? Lol.
Anyway, the problem has nothing to do with whether she cheated, is cheating, or cheats. It’s all about how she makes you feel. If she’s adding a bunch of suspicion and doubt to your life, start spinning other plates.
If you were at the height of inner game and shit, you could just straight up tell her — “I wanna keep fucking but I also want to fuck other people.” You’re probably not there yet, so I’m just going to give you the list of what you can do.
If you’re uncomfortable with cheating in any form, then just focus on something else — work, school, whatever, and just forget about her for awhile. Don’t initiate any contact, but don’t shy away from it either.
If you’re ok with it, then continue. Cultivate any and all other options. Forget about her and hit on other chicks. Try to get a few girls in rotation as soon as possible. This will give you the abundance mindset necessary to deal with her. Again, don’t initiate any contact, but don’t shy away from it.
I’m not sure if this is soft next worthy yet. May just be a ‘pull back and fuck other bitches’ situ.
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She’s cheating. I’ve seen this type of thing hundreds of times with both sexes. She may or may not have fucked this guy or that guy, but that’s just a matter of chance or opportunity. Ask yourself, would she be lying to you unless she’s doing something she knows you wouldn’t want?
I won’t tell you what to do because that depends on what you want, but make your decisions based on reality not wishful thinking.
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Although papers like this align nicely with your (and my) worldview, one has to be very cautious not to overinterpret.
As a general statement: Everyone who is not a dumb idiot knows that we are not equal, and that our genes shape to a major extent our physical and intellectual abilities.
Nevertheless, as a thoroughly-trained biologist, I advise you to abstain from oversimplification. Most genes and their respective manifestation (allele sequence) have only incremental effects on a given biologic process.
Moreover, a certain genetic manifestation, which is detrimental in one certain respect, might very well be beneficial in another respect (think sickle cell disease – in nature, most things are not black and white, but rather oscillate between different shades of grey…
Moreover, it would be naive to think that gene A determines intelligence, gene B determines height, gene C determines sexual orientation, because the whole is more than the sum of the single components. Also bear in mind that even in a given individual with a given DNA sequence, life experience can change protein levels throughout lifetime (think epigenetics)
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>>>> Ya’ll wake me up when you decide to start hangin people.
no need – just wait until your EBT card is declined. That will be your clarion wake-up call.
you think you’ve already seen “black on black”? Wait till then.
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But is it enough to penetrate the left’s defenses against reality? They’ve set up many walls against differences in intelligence.
Denial & Derailment: This is when lefty uses true but off-topic points to distract from the painful fact that some people are inherently superior to others
-Intelligence is hard to define
-Intelligence is hard to measure
-Intelligence is determined by many genes
-Intelligence is determined by environment
-Intelligent people are lacking in other things (empathy, feelings etc)
-Intelligence is variable within groups, and this somehow negates variation between groups
Academic persecution:
-Slandering scholars whose work indicates demonstrable differences as bigots, racist, etc
-Apply extensive methodological scrutiny to their works that would never be applied to dogmatically agreeable results
-Bring in outside voices (from sociologists, anthropologists, activists, political commentators) in order to “gang up” on the dissident
-Label contrarian views politically biased while quoting Marxist scholars like Gould, Lewontin, Kamin etc
See, I believe that deep down inside the leftist mind, they do in fact, suspect that people as groups are not equal to one another. The odds of any two things being exactly equal in nature is astronomically small. Their defensiveness and moral anger when approached on this matter is a sign of internal guilt. So with the tactics above, they manage to bog down, emotionalize and obfuscate conversation so much that no serious discussion can ever take place.
With the internet, there might be a slow shift in mentality. But in terms of public discourse, I don’t see the political correctness going away anytime soon. Notice the article is printed by the Telegraph. We’ll know the tide is changing when it’s being printed by the Guardian, or the Huffington Post.
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I absolutely agree. When has the “truth” ever mattered in politics…
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You were asleep during Biology lessons werent you?…
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Just left a comment that I think went to Spam
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Try actually reading the study next time: The genetic variation …only accounts for an estimated 0.5 per cent of the total variation in intelligence.
Completely meaningless study.
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So they were able to measure “intelligence”?!??
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Is this “0.5%” the difference between a person that does 2-digit integer multiplication consistently (not a mean feat in of itself) and someone like say Augustin-Louis Cauchy or Bernhard Riemmann?
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I think the issue is getting people to accept that intelligence is genetic and that it differs between populations because the research that has been done is clearly pointing towards that conclusion. And its not that people havent tried, like Amy said about the Bell Curve, and many other other books that tackle similar issues, and dont forget the poeple who have gotten Watsoned for speaking up about this.
IMO the change must come from internet blogs/forums/whatever because the establishment will not change its tune otherwise.
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A generally correct Technocracy/Meritocracy is far better than either liberalism or conservatism.
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0.5% of variance. Looks like we’ve proven that intelligence is no more than 99.5% determined by environment. Congratulations.
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