Troubadour resigns himself to winning COTW,
Changing things up deep into a LTR can be tricky, but it works. I’m sitting here with a homemade cake, a card, and a DVD my wife bought me “for the husband I’m so lucky to have,” and she got precisely dick from me in the way of emotion. I gave her a speech about, “Instead of going through the motions of pretending I give a fuck, why don’t I let you spend $150 of your own money on whatever you want. How’s that for a deal?” She accepted, and undoubtedly spent some of the $150 on me to buy the card and the DVD.
I used to make kissing noises and say “I love you” at least 500 times a day. Now I’m looking at having to fuck my wife as a pure cash transaction as the man whore I am. Dump a fuck into Shamu every Sunday night, keep my wood shop and all the rest of my stuff. I hate it, but it’s a practical compromise.
I wonder how many marriages devolve into unhappy semi-extortionate waiting rooms for death? A lot of those striver class SWPLs who marry matte-faced multiple-degreed chubsters to maximize the odds they’ll shit out high IQ wunderkinds capable of competing in the glorious future of globocorpdiversity don’t look all that happy to me. They look more… resigned. Maybe relieved is the optimistic take, but none dare call it passion. Or love.
No need for second place. Tough to follow up this comment.
Enjoy the wood shop, then
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Jesus, that kkkomment got stuck in the LIFO stack for almost two days.
Do any Comp Sci departments in this country even teach common sense anymore?
Or is all of this code being written by simpletons from Bangalore?
Fuck the modern world,
And the nihilists who thrust it upon us.
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None of the blog software i’m familiar with works w/ true stacks. At worst what happens is that an email, or other, client presents them in descending (more recent first) time and the blog owner lazily works down that list. It’s not a true stack where you have to pop stuff off to get at the bottom.
Of course, some people’s email inbox is so full, that it is practically impossible to work from the oldest to newest.. I guess the same could be true of blog tools; ie. that there are just so many old, forgotten ones, that they end up being worked down from the top/recent.
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I’ll have a coke, then.
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More comments like this, please. Makes me glad I’m divorced.
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We talk a lot anecdotally, here at The Chateau, about the overwhelming importance of smell [of a chick to you, and of you to a chick], and here now is SCIENCE!, busy at work quantifying our anecdotal observations:
Could the smell of your EARWAX reveal where you’ve been, what you’ve eaten and even if you are gay? Scientists say substance is ‘overlooked source of personal information’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2559794/Could-EARWAX-reveal-youve-youve-eaten-GAY-Scientists-say-substance-overlooked-source-personal-information.html
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HAHAHA! So Facebook stalking is over? Look out for the woman offering Q-Tips!!!!
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BONNIE RANTHUM: DATE BETAS!!!
3 Terrible Male Role Models for Girls
They’re well spoken, intelligent and gorgeous. Keep your daughters away!
by Bonnie Ramthun
February 8, 2014
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/02/08/3-terrible-male-role-models-for-girls/?singlepage=true
3 Great Male Role Models for Girls
They’re fumbling, stumbling, awkward and imperfect. They’re also wonderful.
by Bonnie Ramthun
February 15, 2014
http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/02/15/3-great-male-role-models-for-girls/?singlepage=true
Lotsa luck wit dat advice, Ms Ranthum.
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Or how the fuck ever you spell her name.
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“Dump a fuck into…”
Got me to laugh out loud there. Lived with that. Now I’m divorced and having sex with women I WANT to fuck. Divorce is awful, but there are some positive benefits.
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You know why divorce is expensive?
‘Cause it’s worth it.
But you know what don’t cost a thing?
Rape!
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A McLaren F1 is expense because it’s worth it too, and I can’t afford one of those either.
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WTF is that?
Ford F-series FTW.
What I can’t afford is a fucking F-550 or some shit.
F-750. Whatever.
A cross between a pickup truck and a frigging tank.
That’s what I want.
Put a frigging water bed and a 5+1 stereo in the back of it.
Pop a bottle of champagne.
Turn on some Earf Wind and Fire.
Explore my inner nigger.
Boo yah.
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Behold the plethora of kabballic (?) imagery in that one album cover. The symbolism that adorned albums of that era is cryptic beyond all recognition. It was almost as if they were illumined. It wouldn’t surprise me if the mothership was pipelining monoatomic gold into shylock studios to get the artists resonating with out of this world vibes, man. Music just doesn’t seem to have a chance of being that groovy again.
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If I could afford to live out my fantasies, I want to take a Kenworth W-900 single-axle day cab with a 13-speed and dual 8″ straight pipes, and put a pickup bed on that motherfucker.
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yeszyzyzy!!!
it is indeedz “Tough to follow up this comment.”!!!
and dat is why we must turn to da BARD SHAKEPSEAREZ
who contempalted
marriage marrying a bernankifiedz chubsterz
long agozesz:
HAMLET
To butthext, or not to butthetxtzt: that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in da bunghole,
Or to lube up against a sea of troubles,
And by butthetxingz end them? To buttehxt shamu: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, ’tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish’d. To die, to butthext ;
To buttehxt: perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub one out;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil on her face,
Must give us pause: there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and butthext of time,
The oppressor’s lotsas cockas in da bung, the Fed Chief’s contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of Yellen and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To butthetxtz and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover’d country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those butthetx we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o’er with the pale cast of thought,
And butthetxtual enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.–Soft you now!
The fair Yellen! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember’d.
lzlzlozolzlozllzlzlo
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Hate to say it, but this is how most marriages end up.
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India has the highest proportion of unsolved . .erm . .disappearance’s, in the known world.
I hear Goa is nice at this time of year.
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Global corpse diversity.
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Lol, also Voila this 😉
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Holy crap what’s next, A MEXICAN WOMAN LIVING IN JAPAN?
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It’s hard to get one-itis on a Korean chick… they all look alike.
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I assume you mean the HOT ones all look alike;as I guess the warpigs all look alike too,but…who cares? In this vid the K girls def came out on top. The mexicanas seemed to have a bit much Indian blood,their features a bit strong ya might say. The K’s were all feminine and sexy. Speaking of Asians has anyone followed this story of Rupert(Open Borders Fag)Murdoch and his erstwhile Asian bish Wendi? Seems this bitch is a female alpha to the nTh degree. Sets her sights on beta males and just goes thru them like a hot knife thru butter. Broke up a marriage–two young kids–to get a green card. Left him to fuck somebody else. Extremely pushy,ambitious,relentless–but not to build a business or anything,which she couldve done,but to get quick wealth and fame and Eat,Pray,Love. She fucked around on Rupe with Tony Blair,among others. Very open and shameless. He has dee-vorced her yellow azz,but she walks away with absurd money and their 2 daughtes are also filthy rich. Really pitiful.This broad has realized all her ambitions. Only the wall will bring her to justice. But there are so many stupid men…
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“globocorpdiversity”
AKA “Encorpera”.
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“Now I’m looking at having to fuck my wife as a pure cash transaction as the man whore I am. Dump a fuck into Shamu every Sunday night, keep my wood shop and all the rest of my stuff. I hate it, but it’s a practical compromise.”
Help. I might have an idea what this is guy is talking about but somehow my brain refuses to accept it.
Could somebody please wipe out my last remaining doubts: What is he telling us exactly?
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“I wonder how many marriages devolve into unhappy semi-extortionate waiting rooms for death?”
Good question. I wonder the same.
Thankyou, CH, for not offering whatever bromancing-brigade pyrrhically victorious platitudinal accolades for his ostensibly “manly” handling of his women he obviously expected to receive.
Dude, this is your wife. A reflection of you. Asshat.
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Did the same thing with my ex. After all the Madison Ave-inspired cake and balloons symbolism of what a modern marriage should be, my inner altruist (alpha?) finally was unleashed. I couldn’t stand it anymore. I finally just coughed up a few hundred shekels and sent her to Scottsdale after a Battle of Tours-esque fight that lasted for hours. Happy Valentine’s Day. Don’t get me shit and, most importantly, do not bother me with this shit. I got a blow job or two out of it and that seemed somewhat fair.
It is not only that you have to pay for this nonsense with your hard earned money, you are supposed participate in this consumerist orgy as a “supportive husband.” Nothing is more beta than the dickless shell of a man standing in Bloomingdale’s with his wife purse in his hands as he misses the game and she shops for shoes with his money. Fucking sickening!
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Huh?
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The bots are starting to target this blog with spam posts for viagra or cialis or or “T” or whatever.
If it gets too bad, then Heartiste will have to institute something like comment verification.
Some people just don’t deserve to live in a free society: spam posters, spam phone callers, junk snail-mailers.
Klepto-capitalism at its finest.
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Practical in that you can avoid a divorce raping you if you play by her rules?
Christ man what a depraved existence.
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Playing by the rules of being a stone cold motherfucker who likes his shit. Hey, he’s in it, and he can’t get out. Even guys who don’t really have shit to lose still wind up losing a lot of shit when they get divorced.
The right move here, of course, is to bang other women and don’t get married if your next life happens in this God forsaken time and place.
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He does have a son and a daughter with her [as I recall].
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this just makes me sad.
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Me too. You’d imagine that something could be done to improve things a bit…..
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Ouch.
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Shouldn’t that be romancing the lard?
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Make the best of it.
Hire her a personal trainer. A female one. Spare no expense. Personally interview the trainer for suitable hotness.
Bitch had it coming. Shamu can lose weight or cut her up as shark chum.
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Note on above comment.
Reword…
I realize that sounds violent.
Perhaps get rid of last sentence.
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Well, the LIFO stack finally spit out the “Grand-Parent” kkkomment.
For two days, I had been wondering WTF you were talking about.
Is there any programmer in this country with a B.S. in Comp Sci from a USA university who understands that you can’t mix LIFO with any sense of determinism or chronological certainty?
This code is being written by frigging cretins.
I’m starting to worry that we are gonna be in deep mother-fucking doo-doo if the F-35 ever has to go up against the Chicoms.
Systems like that are gonna simply melt under the load of their first encounter with reality.
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Zombie Shane
I’m starting to worry that we are gonna be in deep mother-fucking doo-doo if the F-35 ever has to go up against the Chicoms.
———————————————————————————————-
Yeah, especially since for the price, we can only afford 9 of em.
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Gentlemen, I knew my parents’ marriage had turned a corner when my mom, out on a hike with my wife and kids and me , nearly had a breakdown upon finding herself surrounded by poison ivy. She was absolutely terrified she’d get ill again and upset my father.
This, friends, is the standard to which the “old betas” ought aspire. It can be done. Do not surrender.
The alternative, living in a box and smelling of ass, beats living boxed-in and smelling her ass.
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Lolozlolzlolzoz
Men’s speedskating team has female coach and completely humiliates itself . coach cries in response
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/meet-the-most-dysfunctional-team-in-sochi-193445739.html
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Female coach, “I am tired of being told that science is the only answer, that intuition and experience are not good enough.”
Lololzzolz
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The baby Boomer generation is an absolute cluster fuck failure of a massive carbon and every single respect. Complete utter and total failures
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Problem is that their kids are even worse.
At least on the libtarded/Blue State side of things.
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At least the kids are resentful, which may inspire them to rebel against the ethics (lack thereof) of the Boomers.
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I dunno.
The Blue State Boomers had a TFR of maybe 1.5 [children per family].
Judging from what I’m seeing [out of the likes of a Chelsea Clinton – turning 34 next week, with a marriage in shambles, and zero biological grandchildren to show for Boomers Bill & Hill], it wouldn’t surprise me if the children of the Blue State Boomers had a TFR of more like 0.75.
Or even lower.
I have lived in university towns my entire life, around these libtarded vermin and their children, and I just keep watching The Darkness grow and spread and cast its shadow more firmly and more decisively over more and more and more of their hearts.
And I don’t see any “Great Awakening” [part five or part six or part seven or whichever sequel we would be at by now], on the horizon, which would sweep into their lives and chase out The Darkness and whisk them away in the Light of Salvation.
From where I’m sitting, all I see is doom, agony, and despair awaiting them.
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It’s like society took an extended hiatus after two world wars of toil.
Nobody’s is more fucked up than the doctor’s kid.
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As of last weekend I’ve fucked 99 women. Is there a Chateau lady in Vancouver or Seattle that wants to be lucky number 100? You get a free Chateau T-shirt and boy-shorts.
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Side note but does anything think that ‘boy shorts’ suck? ‘nother sign of the times.
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Yes, they’re so blocky and unfeminine that granny panties look better. As you say, a sign of the times. I wonder when they’ll start making them with extra room in front to accommodate both of the ever more converging genders…
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Your outside of your mind.
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* you’re
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Avaunt, impious fool.
Thou rake… thou profligate…
Thou petrie dish.
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> “Thou petrie dish.”
Yeah, when dudes start bragging about the notch count, I immediately start thinking about:
Human Papillomavirus
antibiotic resistant Gonorrhea
Hepatitis B
every manner of Herpes
etc etc etc
Some pussy just ain’t worth it.
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You forgot the male version of The Darkness.
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That would be “Stanley”:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/psychopath-game/
You know, they used to blame Syphilis for every manner of mental illness.
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And there are a lot of people who believe that afflictions like male homosexuality are caused by an as-yet-undiscovered microbe of some sort [bacterial or viral or prionic or whatever].
And that that microbe could be passed on to the next generation when a sodomite molests a little boy.
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Ass Ketchum
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Could be. I insist that gay child molesters should be sent to sleep with the fishes mob-style as Jesus suggested.
I also read a story about a French guy who sued a pharmaceutical company because their drug turned him gay, and he ended up getting raped by a sodomite.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/01/31/suit-man-claims-glaxo-drug-gay-sex-addict/
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And this: http://www.counselheal.com/articles/8351/20140120/mothers-who-smoke-drink-drugs-linked-gay-babies.htm
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New Rule: every time Greg Eliot uses the words “avaunt,” “impious,” “thou,” or “fairy,” he has to donate $1 to Heartiste.
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I’ll donate a buck if YOU donate a dime for every reference that flies over your head.
Thou fairy.
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GIGO applies.
Can’t just blame him for being beta, or her for being… her. Marriages don’t exist in a vacuum. It doesn’t sound to me as though he’s done his part in getting her to do hers. They sound perfect for each other.
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Eventually he will realise that dumping a fuck into a warpig is more painful than divorce. Poor sonofabitch.
Divorce is way, way better!
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Lolzlolz
Ch read this one
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/meet-the-most-dysfunctional-team-in-sochi-193445739.html
Jesus Christ.
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The “team” no doubt felt little espirit de corps, as is natural when one can’t really identify with the others as true “family”… it merely becomes an “everyman for himself” run for whatever 15 minutes of fame can be had in a podium appearance.
Then again, I’ve always rooted for several of the European countries over America when it comes to the Olympics.
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Not their fault. Coach had them training separately. They were never able to collaborate or bond.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/15/3937463/authors-some-groups-are-pre-wired.html
This one ifuck fucked up
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I’m in a marriage of assortative mating but I’m still quite happy after 17 years. My wife does kettlebell, bosu ball, yoga and elliptical trainer, and I take 3 miles walks with her several evenings a week, so she stays in shape. She’s definitely not “Shamu.” We have only one child, but that child has grown up in a home with two biological parents and a foreign language speaking grandparent, so she speaks a second language. It worked out OK for us.
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Except that, with a TFR of 1.0, your family tree will go extinct within another generation or two.
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Dread game, I used it naturally before I even found CH. Then a little bit of beta care. That’s it, more dick sucked guaranteed. I guess it depends on your SMV or marriageability too.
Dread game. Latest example, the richest 35-38 year old divorcee of the town(Multi millionaire) hit on me at the pub ages ago she’d be an aging 7. I’ve heard she likes to have a handy man clean her plumbing before, plus you have to be good with her kids, so she flirts with me while we look after the children at the pub. That was about a month ago.
Last week an old couple that are like grandparents to us, bought the divorcees mother up in conversion and slut shamed her. Mother like daughter heh. Any way I proceed to slut shame the divorcee daughter.
A long conversation cut short the wife’s response.
“Well at least she has taste.”.
If your wife wants money to spend tell her to earn it off her own back. That one really pisses off the white knight father in-laws. 😀
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The Greatest Try Hard (I still have the pictures of his slut), Thwack masta P, and Sweetheart Jason will gladly dump loads into his Shamu for him.
The Greatest Try Hard because he thinks 2’s are 10’s.
Thwack masta P because, like all subhumans, fat loud ugly bitches are catnip to his non-existent soul.
Sweetheart Jason so he can secretly slurp Thwack’s juices outta Shamu’s vajajay.
Rape!
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Someone mind helping me out in this one?
Met a girl on Tinder and went out the next day.
She’s Latvian, probably a 7, with a nice personality. Visiting the US for an extended stay on a travel visa. She’s the wandering spirit type, traveling and staying all over the place, but I didn’t get slut vibes from her at all. She even condemned feminism for its sluttery. She had mentioned wanting a drinking buddy, and even when I told her I don’t drink she was cool with meeting up. We meet up at a bar where she’s at a booth. Table or bar would have been better, I know.
We talk for a bit, good conversation but no sexual escalation and no touching since we’re on opposite sides of the booth.
We’re getting ready to leave after she goes to the bathroom real quick, when she brings back this sexy, sexy Indian girl who’s all over me. We all end up going over to the bar, touching some, taking a few pictures, with the Indian girl literally hanging off of me.
Indian girl splits with her friend and Laatvian girl and I talk at the bar for a while. There’s good touching here now, but no sexual escalation.
We head out, I move in for kiss, knowing she wasn’t going to have it, and didn’t get it, which is odd for me. We do the ol’ faites-la-bas goodbye and split.
I get home and she texts me “I’m starting to miss that Indian chick.” I respond. “She wanted me”
Thoughts? Was she really just wanting a “beer buddy” or did I kill this somewhere? Text conversations before the meeting were all playful and fun, but not at all sexual.
Probably should have just boned the Indian girl, huh?
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Traveling.
Met on Tinder.
Playful text vibe.
Met at a bar.
Escalate hard, don’t bother with her drinking buddy line.
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You have the Kavorka.
She’s the sullen slavic type – and they’re a hard read – So stop trying.
Babushka, beer-buddy or a wingman. What matter? You’re having a blast!
Definitely get her out on the town again.
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@Resevoir Tip I don’t get your story. The girl you want to bang brings back a girl who wants to bang you and you still have a thing for the Latvian girl?
Why didn’t you number close the Indian girl or at the very least escalate with her. Latvian may be bi, or lesbian. Or she may well be in need of escalation.
The next thing you need to understand is how to escalate. Sounds like you went out with Latvian for drinks–her frame—and you stayed in that frame.
What you should look at is ways to spark attraction, build comfort, spark attraction, bounce.
I ordered The Girlfriend Sequence. It’s got a very simple easy-to-follow model that would have turned your situation into something.
I practiced this with girls I met on OK Cupid and was hugely successful.
Building a sexual vibe just requires boldness.
A very simple way is to establish early “I’m a man, you’re a woman”.
I’ve said these words and the girl finds them playful but at the same time it embeds a clear dynamic.
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Hard to escape the conclusion the Latvian wants a threesome. Who knows how she knows the Indian chick, but I suspect she has the hots for her.
And her problem is, she can’t ask this Indian chick, because the Indian is not a lesbian. I’ve never heard of an Indian lesbian, it’s a traditional culture and the women are hetero. I had a gf who was approached very tentatively by a lesbian, and my gf just said no and that was that, but lesbians don’t have it easy.
Or maybe they have a sexual vibe between them, but still they can’t bring themselves to do it without a man. Or physically, they both vastly prefer a shared penis over a vibrator. As I said, lesbians don’t have it easy.
So the Latvian thinks the Indian might agree to a threesome with you though since she liked you. Or the Indian already agreed to the concept and was doing what she could to draw you in.
In any case, I think you still have the green light, just get back in and drive. And post a FR.
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Should mention that the Indian girl’s fat friend pulled her out of the place like a cockblocking B.
But I’ll keep ya posted on how things develop
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You could reply text to the Latvian
Latvian “I miss that Indian chick”
You: “for a 3 some?”
if you’re comfortable with that. I mean, heck, she’s opened the door for you to find out all about this. Fun!
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Lol actually tried that before reading this. Said, “ohh I get it now u wanted a threesome with the Indian chick”
She called me vulgar, and I called her odd in return
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Calling her odd was a neg. As such it is probably OK. But if I’m right you are on very tender ground with this girl’s feelings. Women are repelled by their lesbian impulses but they have them. We are attracted to hot girls. They, many of them anyway, are attracted too. The difference is that they can’t get them. They risk social ostracism for what we can do risk free.
They sometimes feel it’s ok if there’s a man involved, then it’s sex not lesbianism. But then they have to risk and tempt a man into the deal. It seems she selected you. Maybe all you have to do is say yes, after all it’s a lot of work and risk for her to set this up so she can’t just redo it so easily.
Don’t play too hard to get. The Latvian (les or bi) is playing alpha male, if you want the fun let her win to the extent of setting up the 3some.
This doesn’t mean you cannot play the two girls against each other or fuck them both separately. The Indian girl at least is into you and might be happier to get rid of the Latvian.
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@reservoir
FamilyMan has it wrong here. Calling her odd was not the right move. It’s what upset guys do. Here is why it was not the move and what was a better move…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/comment-of-the-week-romancing-the-load/#comment-531339
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“I miss the Indian chick” Reply: Me 2
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Should have replied: “On my way to her place right now.” Do not respond to the Latvian for two days. Lie your way into her skirt.
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I was thinking the Latvian would be able to contact the Indian. If not, yeah you just use the Indian to play dread / social proof on the Latvian.
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Neither of us got the Indians number. They literally met each other in the bathroom (women).
However I did play some nice dread game today. Also, She’s been texting me. And when I don’t answer, she double texts.
Onto the dread game: She asked what I did today and I told her I woke up late because I had stayed out and met up with a bunch of people who invited me out last night after she and I split. It piqued her interest and she eagerly asked to come next time
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Just gonna add some more perspective. She’s probably not lez, and she probably wants more than a beer buddy. Saying she wants a beer buddy makes it okay for her to go on tinder and look like a tramp. It also gives her the power to say, back off, I just wanted a beer buddy if you turn out to be someone she doesn’t want to hook up with and you press the issue with her.
Right now she is probably toying with you because if she’s traveling in the US by herself, it’s more amusing to toy with a guy she might like a bit than to roam around a foreign country alone. It’s amusing, and at least she gets male company out of it.
Right now you’re somewhat asexual to her. Tinder is a hook up app, but you’ve proceeded like the perfect little gentleman throughout your interaction.
Initial frame:
Text conversations before the meeting were all playful and fun, but not at all sexual.
Could see not being sexual here as decent just to get the meet up. I imagine there are lots of guys perving out on tinder and scaring away girls. I’m guessing a few well placed innuendo hints here and there would have helped set the frame, though.
At the bar frame:
We talk for a bit, good conversation but no sexual escalation and no touching since we’re on opposite sides of the booth.
Definitely want to jump into sexual conversation immediately here to set the path for seduction. Sounds like you didn’t. It’s actually way creeper to talk about non-sexual stuff and then put your hands on a girl than it is to immediately talk about sexual stuff. Like you can dive in and say, wow you’re hotter than I expected, we could have a lot of fun together. Shows confidence and intention.
When presented with other more willing sexual options frame:
We’re getting ready to leave after she goes to the bathroom real quick, when she brings back this sexy, sexy Indian girl who’s all over me. We all end up going over to the bar, touching some, taking a few pictures, with the Indian girl literally hanging off of me.Indian girl splits with her friend and Laatvian girl and I talk at the bar for a while
She probably lost a little respect for you here as a sexual being. At this point she knows you have a bit of oneitis for her and are focused on laying her. You had two options, a pre-packaged piece of ass ready for take-out, and a girl you really don’t have much of an established vibe with, and you said no to the sexy option that was ready to go. And then you went in for the kiss?
Teased about about a threesome frame:
I called her odd in return
My thoughts on this are posted below
All these snapshots in her mind add up to a guy who isn’t that sexual and needs her.
My advice: don’t contact her. If she reaches out and asks what you are doing, wait and tell her “just had sex”…not “I was hanging out with my boys”. If she LOLs, teases or asks for proof, just radio silence her for a couple days. You need to set the frame that you are sexual and that you’re not desperate for her.
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According to Roosh (FWIW), Latvian chicks are notoriously cold-fish.
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You should have writtenz!!
“I’m starting to miss that Indian dick.” I respond. “She wanted me.”
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Good frame there.
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I actually said just that, GBFM. Those very words.
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Also, Despite her “beer buddy” spiel, I assume that her texting me like an hour or two after the date was a good sign. And she’s texted me, with good conversation, since then.
She’s expressed interest in meeting up again, without me suggesting it, as well as meeting… my family.
Date #2 has to be hard on the escalation.
She threw a real shit test my way just now, though.
Her: “I’m going out now. Talk later tonight?”
Me: “No sry if u want me to talk to u again then u have to get me something nice while you’re out. easter is near and cadbury chocolate cream eggs are everywhere. u have to make up for the kiss u skipped out on”
Her:”Okay if I see any while im out ill grab one for you. 🙂 ”
Her: “and i dont think i skipped anything i should repay :)”
My responses arent normally so verbose. The kiss part could have come across as a bit butthurt, but I also gave her a good hoop to jump through. The proportion of her texts to mine is highly in my favor generally. How do I answer that shit test though?
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Holy shit I think she’s a lesbian.
“With all due respect the flirting makes me feel weird. And it’s rare that someone gets to meet someone so smart and funny. I should have mentioned that I don’t do the whole opposite gender and hooking up ”
Either my games is awful, which while it could be better, I don’t think it is, or she’s a lesbian. It’d explain the Indian.
Either way. She texted me when she got back in last night like she said she would. I didn’t answer and she called me this morning.
This girl’s weird
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> “This girl’s weird”
Whew.
I was worrying about your critical faculties as I watched this subthread unfold.
Better late than never.
[Stumbling upon the Truth, that is – better late than never.]
Proceed with utmost caution.
You do NOT want to find yourself locked up in a police substation somewhere, in a window-less cell, being grilled by some nameless faceless femcunt Assistant District Attorney, who specializes in sex crimes, about a false accusation of rape which has been filed against you.
Avoid the weird ones with The Darkness in their hearts.
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I’ll certainly be watching it.
But suppose she is indeed a lesbian. It seems taking the “friend” approach could be beneficial here.
If she’s calling and texting all the time, that’s a good sign. She enjoys my company and has expressed interest in wanting to go out again. She thinks I’m smart and funny, but feels weird flirting.
The way I see it, I have two option.
1) I can ease her into the D. If she’s a lesbian, then going macho man isn’t going to do it.
2) I can actually just be her friend, and use her to pull other girls (threesomes?)
Or what if… She’s using ME to pull girls?
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Well, one obvious solution is to VIDEOTAPE EVERYTHING.
With audio.
And make multiple copies of the tape afterwards.
A video/audio tape could go a long, long way towards proving your innocence in a court of law.
Even if it’s technically “illegal” to tape in your local jurisdiction.
Also, make DAMNED CERTAIN that she is >= 18 years old before you start taping.
Nothing will get your ass thrown in prison, for 20+ years, faster than taking nudies of a child <= 17 years old.
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@Reservoir
Dude, just qualify her lol…
“I don’t mean to be rude, but I’m getting a lesbian vibe from you, and that’s totally cool but tinder is my app for naughtiness, and I have a lot more success with straight chicks,”
If that doesn’t change things, cut your losses. Are you on tinder for a drinking buddy? Because that’s what you are now.
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FYI you are in head game playing mode because your game wasn’t tight. Just move on to the next. There is a better girl out there, your ego just won’t let you let go of this one.
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perhaps consider getting her to lose weight. You could secretly put her on the atkins diet without her knowing it, for the most part. lots of bacon and eggs, maybe walk the lard every other night, steak and veggies. Use paleo as an excuse, that sugar and fructose syrup causes cancer, go off the deep end. I bet if done right it could work. It could even be like a game, see what kind of fuked up sh1t you could get her to do using bizarre explanations. lol
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I mean really, it works for liberals, all the sh1t liberalism demands of its congregate is justified using the most asinine of argumentative constructs. Women’s rights…by butthex, free contraceptives and abortions. I could go on and on, but the left uses freedom to justify making people slaves, so why cant that type of stuff be used on people in day to day life. I think im gonna try it more. Have fun with it.
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If the dumb broad can be made to think these things through ideological indoctrination, there is a very good chance that they can be made to believe anything.
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Put her on the anti-freeze diet…J/K!!
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Most of the time I put them on the deepfreeze diet. heh
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Deepthroat diet.
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Terribly depressing, but if he’s speaking the truth he should be lauded. Wedding planners and romcom writers who sell lies that get people in prisons of their own making, they should be the ones getting reamed.
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“romcom writers” = Frankfurt School Central Command
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Agree?
“It’s a fact, I mused to myself, that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women, others with none. It’s what’s known as ” the law of the market”. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally liberal economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally liberal sexual system certain people have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude”
HOUELLEBECQ, Michel. Whatever
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I was married. My ex wife was older than me and I now realize I was a target: beta provider chump.
Something about her was always wrong but at the time I was Blue Pill and figured she wants to get married…ok.
It lasted months. I broke it off. She re-married some older richer divorced guy 6 months after our divorce was finalized.
It was “no fault” divorce so we separated for a year then filed. The filing and settlement took a year.
She would have re-married him sooner but our divorce papers got lost in the court system so that was delayed.
Immediately after getting separated, I started banging girls—tons of girls. I didn’t know anything about game then.
It was another 10 years before I actually started to understand what happened, the Red Pill/Blue Pill dynamic and how women think in romantic relationships.
A huge HUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGE learning or piece of self-awareness is NOT to project my own thinking onto her actions.
The “is she still thinking of me?” or “she only married him for his money” things are probably true—but that flawed thinking doesn’t address why I still care.
Walking away is the hardest thing in game.
We spend a lot of time here discussing response strategies and what to say and do in xxx situation or yyyy situation.
Not enough time is spent on these boards urging guys to walk away and reboot.
I personally have become painfully aware I spend too much time going through situations to the point of OVER-ANALYZING them when what arises from this post is that alpha/beta what’s more important is addressing your own needs.
My game is reasonably good. But I realize I spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about the ones I couldn’t game rather than enjoying the company and banging the ones I can.
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Younger readers at the Chateau – there’s some massive wisdom in the above post.
Probably the single most important thing which normal dudes can learn from the natural psychopath [the true psychopath, who literally does not have a conscience at all] is the supreme importance of not giving a fuck.
Or, at a bare minimum, learning the self-discipline to FAKE not giving a fuck.
[And, in the dark times, when the circumstances of your life make you feel as though you cannot bear the burden of it anymore, the self-discipline required to keep up the FAKERY will simply break many lesser men, who will collapse under the strain of it all.]
There are very, very few things in life worth caring about.
Concentrate on those very few things, and to hell with everything else.
PS: And thank the Creator of All Things that you were able to get out of that marriage without children.
Your own flesh and blood children are #1 on the short list of the only things in life worth giving a damn about.
Can you imagine how tortured you would be if you had had children with that witch and she had manipulated the court into giving her full custody?
You wouldn’t be able to sleep at night, you’d be so terrified for the kids’ safety.
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That’s loss avoidance and it is inherent in our nature. One of the strongest psychological forces. That’s why guys will stay way too long when they should walk away.
If OP has kids then the loss avoidance programming wins over the lure of possible gains.
He says it’s his wood shop, but that seems a bit silly to be the deciding factor.
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Yes. Knowing when to fold.
These are sage words. From my experience, times to fold are…
Date flakes: no shows or girls who sat oh we had plans? Sorry forgot…fold immediately. There is a difference in SMV perception. Quality girls who are truly into you do not flake.
Attention whores: can’t commit to a meet up but respond to texts. They out themselves by going silent over text when plans are proposed, after you’ve engaged in decent back and forth conversation, even if the topic is sexual and she gets into it. Cut. Don’t continue wasting energy trying to get them out.
Sexy girls you don’t actually like spending time with: it’s the kiss of death because you can respect their physical awesomeness but cannot respect them as a person. This is a really hard fold for a lot of guys. Saying no to the 8, 9 or 10 who sucks to hang out with.
Prudes: Girls who claim to be good girls. They have ASD. It’s really something they need to get over themselves and pressuring then is certainly not the way to behave.
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Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death- even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the father.
Philippians 2:6-11
Here ends any contract you have tricked me into. I am not bound to anything or anyone because Jesus is real and he has paid for my sins with his blood. I owe you nothing. I don’t have to spin or mirror people because everything I make and say is honest and real.
This is the last time I am ever posting or visiting this site again.
Bye.
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Vaya con Dios, hermano. My “missionary” purpose here is also winding down. Reteaching the “position” to the neosavages.
Keep an eye on the Christian sites, though. They might have some legs.
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Hurrah!
Don’t let the gates of Le Chateau hit Greg Eliot in his ass as you leave….after all, his nose is typically stuck up YOUR ass, isn’t it?
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Your weak-sister Cathedral shaming, when a bro defends a bro, is played… soooooo played.
And speaking of things up where the sun don’t shine…
One day they’ll be taking us BOTH to the ER… to remove my size 12 Caroline from YOUR ass.
So keep tap dancing on that land mine, eunuch jelly thou.
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If I remember right, and I am sure I do, a large part of Troubadour’s reaction to his wife comes from the years of shit he took from her. Accumulated hatred. Now he’s not fast to forgive, or maybe he’s not inclined to forgive at all. Understood, but let’s not say that weight is the whole story.
Nor to talk as if one marries a fat girl because she’s intelligent. In fact, just recently there seemed to be consensus that smart girls were better looking than dumb ones on the average.
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no relevance to the blog post. but i feel like sharing shit.
I posted a few months ago gushing thanks or YaReally (and by extension, CH, rational male, etc) for the red pill enlightenment. Im a gamma male but I swore I was going to start working everyday to improve. I wasnt cold opening yet but I was trying to run game on all the girls I work with. I got a cute 18 yr old to go on a day date with me before work (only way i could do anything with her) and got a kiss, controlled the frame perfectly up until that, then i got bad oneitis and i think i failed some really obvious shit tests. had a lot of drama that lowered my value at work a bit, realized why they say not to shit where you eat, but i recovered. i have a really strong frame at work somehow, i socialy dominate everyone there. i just suck eerywhere else.
so anyway i finally went out tonight and committed to cold opening. and i did it. i stilll stood at the bar and drank a lot with a buddy, but im also cool with the bartenders, one of my friends tends bar there, so i have some social proof, and i opened every girl that came near me lol. not quite the same as APPROACHING per se, but it works. i try to get girls to buy me drinks, mock and say how dare you when they refuse, then get names, redirect the convo and go from there. i met a girl that was telling me all kinds of personal shit, big dish bowl eyes, like 3 or 4 dudes were orbiting around us while i had that bubble effect going, some dude appeared and tried to amog me and she introduced him as her “best friend” and i punked him and kept our convo going, then i lost it when my buddy distracted me to get another round.
so i felt really great from that, it fizzled out but my mindset was right, taking the positive elements from that. the upstairs bar closed so i went down, moved up to the bar next to some blonde, i tried to open her but she blatantly ignored me, really rudely. so i stood at the bar just saying shit in the air like “i know im producing soundwaves that make air that effect ear buds, and im right next to you, so i know you heard me say hi” etc, over and over, and she finally turns to me and gets very hostile, saying leave me alone, etc. 2-3 big muscular dudes swarm me to defend her, and im into bjj/mma so one of my problems is that i ALWAYS get into near fights with guys, cuz i never back down, and instead of that “no fight is going to happen” frame yareally talks about, i just have a “yes, let us please fight” frame cuz i know i can smash bitches lol. so anyway they overwhelm me with social pressure and i finally leave the bar.
i dunno what im posting this for. give me a pat on the back? i just feel really good for finally opening shit, and im learning to not give a fuck. im actually starting to get ADDICTED to that social pressure of making awkward situations. its fucking fun lol
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way to go
babysteps or something he he he
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> “babysteps or something”
BINGO.
Dude had a choice between fishing or cutting bait, and he made the decision.
Only thing I’d add is to NOT get into it with the whore cunt blonde at the bar who refused to answer.
Turn around, walk away, and never look back.
NEVER.
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Good job.
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Good job.
Keep in mind a couple of things.
1. Fighting over bishes is a no go. No woman is worth fighting for in any sort of pick up context, and most other contexts. Stopping a (real) rape, mugging or assault is about the only context in which i would intervene – but not for her, it would be because i hate cunty men.
2. I, like you have a background that taught me to never back down and how to handle myself in a fight. If you find yourself in a situation in which fighting might be an outcome, you can make it very clear that it would be a very undesirable outcome for your opponent and that you will not budge on the issue without actually fighting. Hint: threatening language is not what you want to use, instead try ambiguity and strong body language.
3. Allowing your emotions to control you like that is exactly what women do not want to see. Aloofness is preached for a reason, because it above any other tactic will moisten loins without fail in virtually any situation.
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Good stuff. You’re converting your courage with men (fight) to courage with women (fuck), not the easiest of transitions.
Reject the “no fight is going to happen” sissy-frame, it engenders unspoken, visceral disrespect. Don’t make a clownish display of yourself, but leverage your physical fortitude among men into the new context of social courage among skirts. It would be tragic for a man who is already comfortable with confrontation to be led astray by “men without chests” who avoid conflict at all costs, including the pussy prize.
It’s encouraging to see you intuitively develop your own understanding of game. For all the lure of easy trim, game is ultimately about manliness applied to the pick-up. The growing potential of this community hinges on how quickly its vagocentric champions realize game’s utility beyond its most basic application — impressing tipsy-trampy bimbos.
Matt
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“Reject the “no fight is going to happen” sissy-frame, it engenders unspoken, visceral disrespect.”
Your problem, because you live in a fantasy world in your basement instead of going out, is that you picture avoiding a fight as ducking and scurrying away into the shadows, hands over your head whimpering “please don’t hurt me, sir!!!” Because that’s what it looks like in cartoons.
But in reality you can stop fighting with calm authoritative tonality. A lot of the potential fights I’ve diffused basically looked like I’m a principal scolding a student lol friends have asked how I get away with it but it’s just a strong frame and breaking rapport tonality combined with applying massive social pressure, followed by extending an olive branch for him to take to escape the pressure. Sometimes I’ll even lecture the guy “HEY. Come on now. You know that’s not cool. No, shut up, you’re being a dick and you know it. We’re all here to have fun. I know you’re not an asshole, we’re all just drunk. Lets not make this some bullshit dick waving contest.”
I explain the structure of this handling AMOG stuff somewhere in my archive in a lot more depth but it’s a consistent thing, learned thru experience mostly.
The thing is that anyone reading this will go “lol whatevs I would knock your block off, my MMA buddy would kill you if you tried to scold him” because they haven’t seen it. But unless your MMA buddy would punch out a cop when the cop tells him to face the wall, he’s going to cave to authoritative voice, the implication of status/power, and a stronger frame than his…it’s just a question of how MUCH of that it’ll take to make him cave and since most guys don’t learn to handle social pressure (the OP eventually ran away due to the social pressure despite his big talk lol), it often doesn’t take much. And it’s easy to leverage more social pressure as you just get girls, staff, the crowd, etc on your side. Comedians are great at this, when a heckler shouts shit out and they rally the crowd on their side they’re just applying social pressure to the heckler…it’s very hard for anyone to hold their position when they’re convinced an entire room full of people are against them.
Also most big tough guys have never run into someone talking to them this way so when it happens they get a slight shell-shock because I’m not an intimidating looking guy so they’re confused why a guy like me would be so sure of myself. Strongest frame always wins and sucks other people into it. While they’re shell-shocked, since I’m expecting it, I just lead them into a better frame. It’s kind of like a pattern-interrupt in NLP, where you derail someone from their path and give them a new one while they’re short-circuited.
Again, no one will believe this I’m sure lol cause even the guys who go out probably don’t learn to deal with AMOGs this way, but it would blow their minds to see it and I’ve done it a bunch of times over the years. Again check my archives for details on it. Ironically it’s actually the biggest toughest guys who turn into schoolchildren shuffling their feet like they got their hand caught in the cookie jar when you scold them…the little guys tend to have a chip on their shoulder and pride to hold up and don’t cave as easy lol
The only guys this doesn’t work on when you’re good at it are unhinged guys who would legitimately psychotically take a swing at a group of cops for telling him to put his hands behind his back, or punch out his own mom or daughter for telling him to wash the dishes, and generally those guys are uncommon and pretty blatantly obvious from a mile away and the bouncers are keeping an eye on them. 99% of guys aren’t this guy lol
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And your problem, again, is that you compose paragraphs of straw men and then claw them to fibers. Try directly quoting me, chump, rather than dumbing down an argument into one your tiny wigger brain can handle.
I encouraged him to sublimate his fighting instinct into something more effective with women. I didn’t advise him to start shit at every opportunity or go full psycho on someone who looks at him wrong. You illiterate twerp.
You’re protesting too much about the “fantasy world,” which you clearly depend on to deal with the reality of criticism: you fantasize that only the insanely aggressive could find a problem with the “Pretend You’re A Principal!” improv-class response to provocation.
No kidding there are a thousand ways to defuse a situation before resorting to violence. This hardly needs to be said, and this all-around preferred outcome hardly needs to be advocated for. Now consider that pulling off a “calm authoritative tonality” is much easier when a man is prepared for every contingency and any possible escalation. You are so stuck on “inner frame” that you discount the utility of outward presence and physicality, the very kind of frame that comes with the MMA “of COURSE [I] can kick their asses” attitude you cite in a different context. Are you following me yet?
Nobody wants to hear how slick you are — if you do say so yourself — in belittling angry men into slinking away, humiliated into impotence by your verbal prestidigitation. This is about the infrequent moments when you can’t talk a man down from his rage, or indeed when your snarky cleverisms are the source of his rage.
Now if you claim this has never happened to you, that your power of speech is so magical that it can stop a charging bear, then you’re even more of a fabulist than I thought.
Likelier, you tuck tail like a rat and beat a retreat from danger but then lie to yourself about how cowardly evasion is the superior Way of the PUA, that discretion is always the better part of valor, and now you are extending those lies to this forum.
Or, worst of all, you are so intimidated by conflict that you only visit the places where challenge is impossible, circumstances where AMOG tips from the side of a PUA cereal box don’t apply but rather themselves escalate the situation.
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sounds like you need to get laid buddy
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@YaReally you may want to reconsider your advice.
“HEY. Come on now. You know that’s not cool. No, shut up, you’re being a dick and you know it. ”
If this works in your little corner of the world, that’ great.
In less SWPL degenerated areas you will reach ..not cool. No, shut up *!Ü*! -> and thats the exact moment when his fist hits your face. Or his boot your manhood and THEN you get a few punches to your throat. (because head normaly moves down after a groin kick). Game over. Wake up in hospital.
In even less civilised areas, like south america/parts of eastern europe/russia you will not wake up at all. You will not just get beaten, but stabbed or point black shot then thrown out and left on the street bleeding.
“99% of guys aren’t this guy lol”
These guys are 80% of people in russia, romania, venezuela, brazil, argentina etc – you need to travel some more m8. Take care.
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Skip to 2:10 in this vid:
This guy won’t calm down, so at 1:45 he builds social pressure by appealing to the crowd around them…sure he looked like a bitch, but that guy would’ve caved his head in if he got up in the guy’s grill to show he’s willing to fight:
Watch some vids on “verbal judo”:
People respond to authority. Calm assertive breaking-rapport tonality + alpha body language + completely solid frame that a fight isn’t going to happen + social pressure = people falling into your frame. It’s instinct/psychology.
That’s why cops aren’t taught to just barge in guns blazing in a potentially violent situation. That’ll escalate things. They’re taught to use a dominant frame and various psychological tactics to calm the situation down first because most situations can be easily calmed down by a strong frame.
Hell, why do you think there are hostage situation negotiators in the police force? To talk a chaotic situation down.
The catch is that if you don’t do it with 100% belief, the other guy will sense that weakness and you can get into a confrontation. But if you do, they fall in line because they’re reacting on instinct.
You don’t have to believe me. You could always go out to shit-hole dive-bars and hit on the girlfriends of scary fuckers and then try it out for yourself, the same way I did when I was starting out. 😛
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This is another great video on verbal judo. I use a lot of this, but I learned it through pickup experience VS arresting people lol The stage he calls “giving options” and “how can you give him a way to save face” is what I call stuff like “extending an olive branch” or “pace his reality and put him on a better path”…a lot of this would be rephrased into natural social conversation instead of cop-talk but the concepts/principles work the same:
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Your video dump proves my and CGS’s point. For fucksake, the only good ones come from a site called streetfightsmarts.com. And the Vitaly chumping shows just what happens when a man follows your advice: he turns into a literally screaming bitch running down the street for safety (but trying to appear casual, and rationalizing his pussitude through technicalities).
At the conclusion of Grannon’s excellent tutorials, he even says in the very last line, “I can guarantee you humiliation is a much, much deeper fear than violence ever will be.” Your takeaway? You tell students to avoid violence at all costs and go for the humiliating Pretend-Principal AMOG.
Grannon further counsels to initiate a “pre-emptive strike” in some circumstances.
See, for all your monotonous chanting about the importance of “field experience” over theory, the moment you attempt your own theorizing, you demonstrate the limits of your experience. Your anecdotes compile into surreal cliches and denunciations of those of us who disagree with you and utilize applied theory.
Your only possible conclusion is that men who arrive at different conclusions must lack experience, ipso facto. What you fail to realize is that such selective judgments indicate how inapplicable and uselessly anecdotal your own experience is, especially when you try to transform it into general advice. It’s gotten to the point that, when you start whining about who is legit and who isn’t by virtue of going out moar, you betray your inability to contribute anything of substance to the discussion.
Finally, it is the female mind which traffics in anecdotes. For any principle to be understood she must first funnel it through the narrow pinhole of what she has personally experienced. It is why bitches are addicted to the first person. It is why they have a hard time learning from others’ mistakes. This community calls the phenomenon “female solipsism.” The female mind cannot follow a discourse of abstractions or generalities; she cannot recognize the legitimacy of concepts that do not pertain to her immediate five senses.
Which is fine with me: if you want to think like a bitch and act like one too, get down with your transsexual self and giggle at honor. But don’t presume to teach men. You counsel the hard-up and unaware to be more in touch with their self-centered, soft side, their instinct to avoid confrontation, their femininity. You worm into a hag’s good graces by mirroring her personality, by playing her assertive gay friend and then pulling a switcheroo when the booze kicks in. This is why, despite whatever observational wisdom you bring to the lives of omega males, you give most men (who do not need to be reminded they are men) the creeps.
Communicating on a masculine level is as foreign to you as it was during your bad old social outcast days. Don’t think we can’t smell it on you. Honesty in advertising would require the disclosure that your formula for getting women requires a man trade in his balls for pussy.
Matt
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@Matt
“Grannon further counsels to initiate a “pre-emptive strike” in some circumstances.”
Yes, because he’s talking to cops who deal with violent situations they can’t just walk away from. He’s not talking to some 5’8″ dude in a bar who made out with a girl and accidentally pissed off her boyfriend, or some dude in a bar getting tooled by another dude (aka something completely pointless and not worth fighting over).
I thought the difference was obvious but I guess I have to hold your hand through everything as usual lol
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Solid. Massive props for turning your life around and getting onto a better path. Keep approaching, but also feel free to do what you did and chill with your bartender buddy and flirt with girls that come up for drinks…that’s totally valid, and right now you want to collect as many “talking to girls I don’t know isn’t a big deal and won’t result in the world ending” reference experiences as possible, any way you can get them. A lot of cold approach game is just for hobbyists who want to show off or push themselves…you could get laid perfectly fine just running game on girls that come up for a drink beside you. When I’m out solo and having an off night where I’m just out of it, I’ll usually sit/stand at the bar and chat with the bartender and do what you did, just cheersing and joking around with anyone who comes into my little sphere lol I joke to the bartender “sorry, I’m gonna scare off all the girls that come up here lol” and just tip decent if I don’t know the barteder personally, since I’m taking up space that paying customers could use.
Ditch the fighting mentality. That chick won’t suck your dick even if you kicked all those guys’ asses. At best you win and get banned from the bar and lose access to a venue that could help you improve your sex life for the rest of your life and risk some kind of legal charges that fuck you over and add stress to your life. One of my best buds is an amateur MMA fighter and he used to scrap at bars all the time cause he likes it, but now he looks at it like those guys aren’t worth his time…of COURSE he can kick their asses, they’re just dipshit bar dudes. He fights REAL fighters in the ring that are a challenge instead of wasting his skills on some bar shits lol and he’s right, those guys aren’t worth your time. You should be embarrassed to give them that much importance that your even waste a swing on them lol. They’re like children, you don’t have to defend your honor and not back down from a 5yo calling you a poopy-head.
But hey, you’re an adult you can do what you want. Consider that there’s going to be a time in your life where you can’t just spring into your BJJ (maybe you’re too old, maybe there’s too many guys, maybe you have your future wife and children with you, etc) and being able to calm a situation down and befriend the other guys or at least walk away without a conflict, could be a useful skillset to have experience with.
Just don’t get into a fight around me (metaphorically), because I will have the bouncers throw them AND you out, because the bouncers like me, their job is to keep the enviro safe for the customers, and neither of us wants you guys and your dick-swinging competition to ruin other people’s night.
aka GTFO of my club, you guys can suck eachother’s dicks in the parking lot outside while the girls and I have fun inside lol
Anyway, that said, like I say massive props for taking action. Keep it up and your life 5 years from now will be something you never could’ve dreamed of a year ago.
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Negative. Strive for more than fellatio in your life. That chick and a hundred more will suck your dick on the way to greater things, things which you have experienced and your online insta-adviser has not: the ability to dominate men as well as women — or dominating men as a means to dominating women with little added effort. These matters are not in the realm of his experience, so he has no time for anything but the hard-sell.
Zen master: when you focus too hard on catching the ball, you drop the ball. If your ultimate goal is to get your dick sucked, you will transmit your neediness in every expression and in every gesture. Focus on striding perfectly under the thrown ball and cradle-catching it rather than diving and clenching and clutching. Let the beej come to you.
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Bla bla bla, keep reading those comic books for your lessons on manhood lol
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@YaReally
Was telling one of my fuck buddies some interesting sex stuff I did with my main girl over the weekend. She asked me to send pics over. Curious if you’ve experienced this and what a request like this is about. Guessing she wants to compare herself to the other girl?
I’m not going to do it because sending the FB a copy is a violation of the other woman’s privacy.Don’t want her picture in the hands of another girl. In these situations do you use these moments to define boundaries, “I can’t show you that, and I don’t want see a picture of your boyfriend, remember we’re just having fun babe.”
Also, when a girl in a relationship has ASD and meets up, do you find that casually talking about banging other girls is a good move or bad move? Does is it get the proverbial competitive juices flowing or amplify the ASD that much more?
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@darkhorse
“I’m not going to do it because sending the FB a copy is a violation of the other woman’s privacy.”
Yup. Don’t do it, for this reason. Part of why my FBs send me sexy shit and tell me their fantasies and make sex vids with me etc is because they trust me not to violate their privacy. Also if you did it you would also be telling this girl that you will happily violate HER privacy too. She doesn’t need to see any pics, not even you holding your phone up for her.
Often I’ll say “no, you might know her.” lol
“Don’t want her picture in the hands of another girl.”
Yup. That would be bad. There is NO benefit to you in this situation…only possible downsides.
“In these situations do you use these moments to define boundaries, “I can’t show you that, and I don’t want see a picture of your boyfriend, remember we’re just having fun babe.””
Yup, this is a boundary thing, but I would say stuff like “no. I don’t show off pics that girls send me.” Or joke around that a gentleman doesn’t kiss & tell depending on how annoying she is about it. If she won’t drop it I’ll go more serious with an “I told you no. If you’re going to keep asking, this conversation is over.” and if she keeps going then you Soft Next total radio silence for a week and that should correct the behavior.
“Also, when a girl in a relationship has ASD and meets up, do you find that casually talking about banging other girls is a good move or bad move? Does is it get the proverbial competitive juices flowing or amplify the ASD that much more?”
It depends entirely on the girl, wish there was a consistent answer. Like it ultimately comes down to WHY does she have ASD? It generally comes down to two categories: either she’s worried you only want her for sex so she’s nervous to bang because she has some feelings for you (she could be prepping/viewing you as her next monkey branch to swing to when she breaks up, this is why I purposely set an anti-provider frame where she thinks I would be a shitty boyfriend and I don’t see her often enough for those feelings to build etc), or it’s the opposite and she’s got ASD because she just wants something casual and thinks you’ll fall in love with her and cause her drama and fuck her relationship up etc.
If it’s the former, then less talking about other girls. If it’s the latter, then more talking about other girls. But you’ll have to figure out which it is based on your knowledge of the situation.
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clarification: pics of the other girl.
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Spoken like a feminist, who thinks honor belongs to the realm of comic books. You teach hard-up men to be pussies — or even gay — to get pussy. Your victims shouldn’t have to suffer through your one-size-fits-all, short-man theory of retreat before they realize there doesn’t have to be a trade-off.
You should be asking him how many nights he spent in jail, how many bars he’s been kicked out of, how many felonies are on his record. You are clearly out of your depth, and rather than citing phantom “friends” who happen to always comport with your rigid policies (If you don’t eliminate the urge to fight, you will have to suck cock in the parking lot!!!), try admitting your ignorance and a willingness to learn from others up-front, especially from students who come from different places than you do.
As a bonus, you will then be able to dispense with the LOLs and “hey I’m just a chill easygoing dude” tryhardery in these spaces, which you use to compensate for your ideological rigor mortis.
Quick, who wrote this just three days ago?
I advised your victim to parlay a skill he already has into the development of a skill he doesn’t. You, as usual, repeated the same cookie-cutter dogmatic advice to avoid conflict because escalating with men doesn’t work for undersized clowns like you, and therefore you can’t imagine how it can work for anyone. You are an anecdotalist, not a teacher. Your method is to encourage desperately seeking betas to become you rather than figuring out a way they can play to their strengths.
So you see every incident with a potential for violence as the inevitability of a felony, cops coming, getting thrown out. Whereas these situations are more often defused by showing one’s readiness to fight rather than trying to worm out of it with faggotty verbal theatrics. Not every signal of the ability to defend oneself proceeds from hotheadedness.
Your advice-by-anecdotes is a centimeter thick, and no matter how many you accumulate, you still draw the wrong lessons from them. “Never fight!!!” says the divorced mommy to her precious little boy, and the adult, still a half-pint, remembers.
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In field you find that the guys who want to fight are the betas that are sexually frustrated because they don’t have the skills to get laid. They are channeling pent up sexual energy and releasing it through their fists. Guys that get laid know this and are above it. Fighting in bars is for weak minded people. Yes, it’s important to know how to defend yourself but it should not be a first response. Blotter showed poor social skills in that he was going to play “let’s you and him fight” because he got cock blocked. If that’s his default response then, yes, police will eventually be involved in one of the many alterations and women and men will avoid him. He would not learn a damn thing because starting out he’s going to be blown out of sets constantly. If he fought everyone then he’d give up on getting pussy and live in his parent’s basement and comment on blogs using the name Matthew King.
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Tell me more about this honor thing. Be sure to keep watching thru to 1:10 in this vid:
Everybody thinks they’ll be the guy standing at the end. Nobody expects to be the guy on the ground. This isn’t one of your John Wayne cowboy movies where two guys square off outside a bar with fisticuffs and when one guy goes down the crowd cheers and they shake hands and have a beer together after, having earned a newfound respect for eachother, as the credits roll.
This is 2014. Sure, squaring off with the guy might gain his respect…still his buddy suckerpunches you from behind cause you were busy locking eyes with the first guy, and in the confusion someone smacks a bottle across the back of your skull. Or you get a bit tipsy one night and one of those guys remembers you and you get jumped while you’re taking a piss in an alley after last call. Or you beat the shit out of one guy and his buddies run to their car to grab knives, bats, a gun, etc because they’re not going to go “good show, sir! I would like to challenge you to a round of fisticuffs next! No hitting below the belt, do we agree, my good man?”
And nobody is jumping in to stop them, just like no one in that video is jumping in to try to stop this dude from bashing this unconscious guy’s head in, because no one wants to be the next victim.
I’ve watched a random guy in real life get curb-stomped (dude stomped his head into the ground full-force), tons of sucker-punches, saw one get chased down and stabbed in the gut with a knife, been across the street when a dude fired a gun into the crowd etc. this is the shit you see when you actually go out. I’m sure knowing some BJJ is super, except the guy won’t stop when you tap out, and while you’re wrapped around his back choking him out, his buddy you didn’t even realize was with him is boot-stomping your head or running a knife thru your side. And that’s if you get fucked…maybe you win and as the guy falls down he cracks his head on the pavement and dies, and now you’re on a dozen cell phone vids with the cameraman shouting “worldstar” while you plead “I didn’t MEAN to” to a jury. And that doesn’t even afford his drunk Snookie jumping in to claw at your eyes and put you in a position where you have to legit defend yourself and smack a chick down in front of a crowd of drunk white knights who will instantly turn against you for it.
Sure, this doesn’t happen in every fight. But it’s not that uncommon to see stuff along these lines when you’re out 3-5 nights a week around testosterone fueled sexually frustrated drunk guys. And I’d prefer not to be the case where it does happen, and to advise other guys not to chance that for some gay notion of “this retarded guy who means absolutely nothing to me might think I’m a pussy if I step down bro!!! I gotta defend my honor!!!” I expect to do a lot with my life, not have it end in some meaningless bar fight.
But no, hey, tell me again about how things work in your fantasy world. Because I sure wouldn’t want to be called “just like a feminist” by a retard on the Internet OMGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!111
Every guy has 2 delusions:
1) “if the chips were down, if I REALLY needed to, I could win the fight”
And 2) “if I REALLY wanted to, I could pick up that hot girl at the bar”
Both are generally revealed to be bullshit in the cold hard face of reality over a long timeline.
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@YaReally
I don’t know where you go out, but the scenarios you described are quite uncommon in SWPL territory. Those sorts of things happen in the seedier areas of town. Anybody who has any experience handling himself in confrontational situations will be able to identify the difference between Frodo Bagstein the hasidic hobbit and the fellowship of the yarmulke who works at KKR vs Suge Knight and his heavily armed entourage of drug pushers.
If you find yourself in the latter situation, you have made a serious error in judgement. Firstly, you put yourself in an environment where you are not a high value male. Secondly, you are not in the majority. Ingroupsim and its consequences has been discussed here, thus ostracism should be expected – especially when the situation escalates towards physical confrontation.
If you are in the former situation and you truly do have a strong frame, you won’t be out looking to give wedgies to the douchebankers. However, if one of them decides that their entertainment/”AMOGing” will come at your expense and initiates some form aggressive dialog then you should surely escalate the situation to the point of calling his bluff.
It sounds to me like you enjoy needling at guys in social settings to establish your “AMOG” status. That is a recipe for getting your teeth kicked down your neck. To a natural, you’re the passive aggressive guy that hits on the chicks we’re talking to. The combination of persistence and lack of investment will usually get us to leave because there are others to talk to that don’t involve being around somebody who cannot cede any amount of control in a social situation.
However, if we are out with a girl with whom we have some investment, you will be getting swirlied in the bathroom or beaten like a rented mule because you thought you could outwit the situation when the only play on your part was to move along. Perhaps you have already learned this lesson and know when to fold. But, by failing to acknowledge it you are setting people up for a hard lesson that will likely leave them wondering where your advice failed them and what else you have not mentioned.
You might have a highly refined skill-set at managing social situations, manipulating people and gauging the social temperature within a certain range. However you fail to realize that acceptable social behaviors are only followed because disobeying them and devolving the situation has been disincentivized. Once the disincentives no longer outweigh the incentives, ass-kickings will commence.
I understand a lot of guys arrive at the manosphere looking for pussy procurement advice. A lot of the issues most men have occur in the social arena and fixing those issues is usually among the easier things one can fix and the results are easily measured by the more frequent sexual encounters that most realize. However, a bountiful harvest of hoes deludes one into thinking they are now a man; it is the other more important aspects of manhood – knowledge, wisdom, courage and self-respect that one must cultivate to gain the rock-solid frame you seek to imitate.
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You two coolguys ought to focus through your ADHD on the point of contention rather than working so hard to convince yourself I am something I’m not. Repeating it doesn’t make it magically come true.
Direct me to the place where I said anything about “the guys who want to fight.” Again, I spoke of only the readiness to fight and the benefits of such preparation whether or not the fight occurs, which it usually doesn’t, even without your inane, cryptofaggot Hints from Heloise about the importance of avoiding conflict at all costs.
This is like trying to shout drive-by algebra at corner coons who dropped out of special-ed to sling crack.
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@CGS
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@Matthew King
You ignored all my other points so I’ll assume you agree with them.
If you are complaining about people misinterpreting you, try to write clearer. Lay off the purple prose and stick to logic if you want to debate with men.
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@CGS
“I don’t know where you go out, but the scenarios you described are quite uncommon in SWPL territory. Those sorts of things happen in the seedier areas of town.”
I go out everywhere. I spent a few years when I was first starting out in a lot of shit-hole dive bars with bikers and drug dealers and gangs and shit, and I was trying to hit on their women lol Now I try to stick to the nicer places, but I’m not a threatening looking guy so a lot of dudes like to have a go at me because they think I’ll be a pushover and now that UFC/MMA is popular, everyone fancies themselves a badass and is eager to throw down, esp in an 18-25yo nightclub on UFC night when everyone is jacked on testosterone and adrenaline from watching the fights.
“If you find yourself in the latter situation, you have made a serious error in judgement.”
Agreed, avoiding the situation entirely is the best bet. Most guys are stupid and not paying attention to potentially bad situations (usually ’cause they’re drunk). But when you go out solo attempting to hit on girls and know you’re going to run into boyfriends and AMOGs sooner or later, you learn to be very aware of what’s going on around you.
“Firstly, you put yourself in an environment where you are not a high value male. Secondly, you are not in the majority.”
ehhh, this isn’t that big a deal if you have social skills. I routinely go to environments where I don’t “belong” (non-white clubs, “themed” clubs (cowboy bars with legit rough-n-tumble cowboys, biker bars, goth bars, etc.), old people bars, young people bars, rich bars, dive-bars, etc.), just because I go out a lot and I have a variety of social circles now so a lot of nights I’m the odd man out. But I have the social skills to be the one guy in a suit in a cowboy bar that they all approve of, or the one guy in a t-shirt and jeans in a high-end bar that they all approve of. You get tested a lot more, but all the AMOG psyche tactical stuff usually diffuses that and wins them over…I don’t even really think about it now.
“However, if one of them decides that their entertainment/”AMOGing” will come at your expense and initiates some form aggressive dialog then you should surely escalate the situation to the point of calling his bluff.”
lol what? No, that’s retarded. You’re only doing that because your ego took a hit and you’re trying to save face. If anything I agree and amplify. Work the crowd, throw girls at him, there’s all sorts of stuff you can do. It’s retarded and weak to allow yourself to fall into his frame of “let’s you and me fight”.
‘It sounds to me like you enjoy needling at guys in social settings to establish your “AMOG” status.”
Nope. I befriend everyone, unless they start it, and then I snuff it out fast and offer them an olive branch so we can be friends. A lot of guys end up buying me drinks because they end up feeling stupid for trying to have a go at me when I don’t react to their “monkey dance” (google it).
“That is a recipe for getting your teeth kicked down your neck.”
People keep telling me that, and yet no one has ever taken a swing at me. I would put my experience up against uncalibrated armchair theorists with less social experience than me any day.
“To a natural, you’re the passive aggressive guy that hits on the chicks we’re talking to. The combination of persistence and lack of investment will usually get us to leave because there are others to talk to that don’t involve being around somebody who cannot cede any amount of control in a social situation.”
You’re just painting me as a cartoon character of the type of guy you hate right now. You’re picturing the obnoxious guy who won’t let anyone else talk and try-hardly attempts to dominate every interaction. That’s not what I advocate at all. I always attempt to befriend people around me, even the ones who hassle me.
“However, if we are out with a girl with whom we have some investment, you will be getting swirlied in the bathroom or beaten like a rented mule because you thought you could outwit the situation when the only play on your part was to move along.”
Oh of course. And you would totally punch my face in bro!!! I bet you’ll wear an Afflication shirt while you do it so I know you’re a total badass lol The reality is that you won’t do shit, because she’ll choose me over you and you will act like big vaginas who won’t hit me because she doesn’t want you to. You can’t even imagine how many times I’ve diffused this kind of thing lol You talk a huge game, like all Naturals do, but in the moment your default instincts will take over and you’ll react the same way they all do. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.
“Perhaps you have already learned this lesson and know when to fold.”
Never had a single swing taken at me, but been in plenty of situs where, if I was an idiot, I would have.
“But, by failing to acknowledge it you are setting people up for a hard lesson that will likely leave them wondering where your advice failed them and what else you have not mentioned.”
I don’t advocate picking a fight. I advocate if, the potential for a fight is there, attempt to de-escalate it first, instead of escalating it to save face. Very few fights, especially in a bar, actually HAVE to happen. It’s stupid people getting sucked into the “monkey dance” with other stupid people.
“However you fail to realize that acceptable social behaviors are only followed because disobeying them and devolving the situation has been disincentivized. Once the disincentives no longer outweigh the incentives, ass-kickings will commence.”
Agreed. That’s why you learn how to increase the disincentives. You might want to punch me, but when there’s 3 girls standing in front of me telling you “leave him alone!! we LIKE him!!” and a bouncer I’ve befriended earlier watching you like a hawk, you’re probably not going to. I try the easiest route first, and if you don’t back down then I increase the disincentives until you do. It’s a simple concept, but requires social skills, awareness, and calibration to actually execute.
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YaReally,
You missed the point. Your deft handling of social situations is certainly a worthwhile skill to develop, however you fail to realize that it is not the only viable strategy for one to have. I am quite certain that your ability to manipulate social situations exceeds mine. But, you seem to think that your ability is an indicator of superior intellect/judgement.
Any man who has ever been out among a group of females and has observed a male that is unknown to the group approach the group understands exactly what his intentions are. Attempting to befriend me or the group before you take a pass at some of the pussy is hardly a recipe for deception. I know what’s up, and I’m not interested in being your pal. If I surmise that you’re in fact one of those individuals who is a one trick pony, I’m not stupid enough to engage you with tactics that play to your strengths.
Typically, my first response will be to pull you aside and politely ask you to leave. If you insist on over-staying your welcome, then I will resort to tactics that lend themselves to my advantages. I am not foolish enough to escalate a physical confrontation in the presence of dozens of witnesses. I will wait for you to go to a place where you are vulnerable, eg out for a smoke or to the bathroom – where your bouncer buddy or groupies are not around to be your advocate.
I’m not some meathead guido that’s been mainlining thoroughbred spunk for the last 5 years trying to get yolked. I do not engage in over the top frat boy behavior. I think UFC/MMA stuff is generally practiced by individuals that think very narrow-mindedly. My teeth were cut in a far more demanding crucible – actual combat. On the modern battlefield one learns very quickly that the tactics you are describing – open conflict fueled by emotion, which lends itself to being vilified, is not a viable strategy. Instead, isolating your enemy on your terms is the way to win. MMA teaches you to fight in a fair fight. War teaches you to turn the odds decidedly in you favor.
You will mistake my patience for inaction. I will not repeat myself to you nor will I directly engage you in verbiage, my intentions were already made clear once. I do not parse words. I have dealt with your ilk many times before and your overconfidence in your social abilities are your shortcoming. My strength is determining your strengths and weaknesses and devising a way to exploit them. So while in any given area, you might be superior, you will likely be lacking in others. Success breeds repetition, failure is the mother of all success.
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‘Typically, my first response will be to pull you aside and politely ask you to leave. If you insist on over-staying your welcome, then I will resort to tactics that lend themselves to my advantages.’
Yeah, sure. When a guy approaches the group and gets everyone laughing and brings value to the group, this is how you’d respond. Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Your problem is that you’re imagining some low-value dude approach the group.
A) Imagine that the guy comes from a group standing right next to yours filled with people who are awesome and having more fun than anyone else at the venue
B) Imagine that the dude knows the staff in the venue and seems on very friendly terms with them, to the point where maybe he can get you guys a free drink or something like that
C) Imagine that one of the women gets interested in the man who approaches and asks him questions and is very nice.
You. Wouldn’t. Do. Shit.
I admit that last year, around May-June when I was first getting in the swing of this, guys like you did this to me. Why? Because I didn’t bring enough value. Now that I usually meet conditions A) and B) where I’m at…at least A), what happens is that at least one or two of your male friends will like me.
And my external game is getting pretty solid….to where I get to social hookpoint with the girls in the group quick, so C) will be happening even in venues where A) and B) don’t. I’ve been in a lot of sets where the guy — like you — tries to pull this enforcer crap only to have the girl roll her eyes and be like ‘OMG what are you doing, stop being a creep to this guy,’ so that she can continue to talk to me.
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‘escalating with men doesn’t work for undersized clowns like you’
I really fail to understand what you’re advocating, Matt. What, exactly, should a guy who weighs 130 pounds and is 5’5, do? Should he just always be prepared to fight?
The reason why showing a readiness to fight works is a) the person who seems ready to fight is physically imposing, or b) the individual who is ready to fight has more of a will to fight than those around them. Here’s the problem — the less you have of a), the more everyone else’s will to fight will rise….because hey, they reasonably think they could take you.
What you’re saying boils down to ‘show em’ that you have balls.’ If I show a 6’9 guy my ‘readiness to fight,’ it’s likely going to escalate a potentially violent situation because he doesn’t feel much of a physical threat from me.
That’s what it reads as to me.
HOWEVER….what I think the general gist is, is that knowing how to fight and how to handle yourself when shit gets real will give you an edge. But still, sometimes you have to know when to hang your head and concede no willingness to fight. Seems common sense.
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@CGS
Everything Scray said.
Your problem is that you’re imagining 1) a low-value guy approaching, and 2) that that low-value guy is looking to TAKE value from your group, to “use” your women, and to “tool” you.
Imagine your life-long role-model is at the bar. Whoever you look up to. Or hell, say your group just attended some fucking epic concert and the lead singer of the band comes over to say hi to your group and your girls are going “OMG!!!” with smiles on their face and your bros are going “man that was a sick show, can I get your autograph?” because a legend is coming over to chill with your group…are you going to put your arm around him and “politely ask him to leave”? No, because he’s bringing value to your group. You would have to be a complete social retard to tell him to leave lol…and I mean, that’s possible, but you don’t seem like an idiot, you’re just picturing the worst-case scenario.
You’re doing the same thing girls do when they’re asked if a guy touches them at the bar without permission, is that attractive? They picture some low-value creeper sneaking out of the shadows to cop a feel and go “omg no I would hate that, men should always ask permission, I would spray Mace in his face and call the cops immediately if he laid a finger on me!!!” Meanwhile when the guy is high-value and offering value and smoothly approaches and slides an arm around the small of her back, she melts.
The girls in your group have seen me with hot waitresses running up to hug me, bouncers shaking my hand, groups of people laughing at the shit I’m saying as I talk to them, girls dancing with me, some girl making out with me, and as I pass your group I drop some fun comment to the less-intense guys in your group that makes them laugh or hell, I’ll bring another girl and introduce her to them, or bring an entire SET of girls and introduce them all to your boys (or do you all stand around stone-faced staring every other guy in the bar down 24/7 because they’re all enemies to you…I’m sure your girls are having the time of their lives hanging with your group if that’s the case lol) and your girls grab me to ask me questions and invite me into your group because they’ve been wondering who I am.
Hell, I might even grab a girl from another set and roll up with her on my arm. Are you going to pull the two of us aside while she’s all bubbly and smiling and in the middle of complimenting your girls on their outfit while they all girl-five eachother, to tell us both to fuck off? lol you wouldn’t do shit, because we’re bringing value to your group and I don’t even care about the outcome: I don’t need your girls, there are 100 other girls in the bar, all I’m doing is being social and friendly and fun, spreading good vibes to everyone around me…and guess what, your girls LIKE fun, and are drawn to it lol
You are actually the easiest type of guy to disarm because you wear your intent on your sleeve and are predictable as fuck. All it would take is one stone-faced stare at me that I catch out of the corner of my eye to tell me “this is a guy who’s scared I’m going to try to take his girls”. I would disarm you by talking about my girlfriend, maybe introduce a random girl as my girlfriend (I told her to play along and she did, because roleplaying is fun and remember what I said before about girls liking fun? lol) so you’d think I wasn’t after your girls, and then on top of it I’d shoot the shit with your buddies and win at least one of them over, ignoring your girls completely to help re-enforce to you that I’m not after them…but of course, your girls will be curious about me and start asking me questions.
Quite frankly, you’re the type of guy who usually ends up buying me a beer and thinking “this guy’s alright!”
As far as your “I’m a super cool ninja who’s going to stalk you” shit goes, I’m fully aware of where you are at all times. You’re not the only one with a mental radar…there will ALWAYS be a dozen witnesses around me, even if I went for a smoke or to the pisser, the second I notice that little stone-faced glare in my peripheral vision. 🙂
I’m not saying you’re dumb, because you type well and shit, and I know you have a very clear mental image of how this would all go down and with a low-value guy, ya, it probably does go down exactly like that…but I don’t think you’ve run into many high-value guys before and I don’t think you have the reference experiences to understand what I’m talking about, in the same way some chick on the street would tell an interviewer that no way would she fall for game or would negs work on her or would she approve of kino etc…she doesn’t have the reference experiences to envision those things coming from a guy she LIKES and who’s giving value, so she pictures the worst-case scenario and builds from there like you are.
Again this isn’t theory lol It’s like Scray says “Now that I usually meet conditions A) and B) where I’m at…at least A), what happens is that at least one or two of your male friends will like me.” Field Experience teaches that this shit works consistently…it won’t for the low-value newbie, who should just bail entirely on the situation and run away because it’s a no-win for him to fight and he doesn’t have the value/calibration yet to avoid the fight, but the more a guy goes out and applies this stuff, the better they get, and the more they see barriers dropping the way Scray is.
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@scray: excellent point — and a fair question for our dimwitted Jesuit, Matt King.
Unfortunately, he won’t respond. He can’t. Because your points are irrefutable, and he knows it.
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Scray and YaReally,
Put into the context you described, your diagnosis is correct. If you are in fact adding value to my group then you certainly would be welcome (although classifying yourself as a celebrity/role model is a big stretch). As a matter of fact, I would likely put on my party hat and we would clique quite well. But you overestimate how often people like that I (or most others) encounter. I can think of maybe 3 or 4 people that I have met like that over the past 10 or so years.
Your assertion that fighting is never a viable option is not one that I will agree with though. Firstly, it takes a strategy that could be favorable to you off of the table. Secondly, there are things in this life for which, fighting is a worthwhile endeavor. Finally, removing fighting from your repertoire limits your choices. I do NOT advocate frat boy meathead testosterone fueled violence. There are ways to administer a beating such that most if not all disincentives you mentioned will not be realized.
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CGS, if you want to know where their vagina-forward attitude is coming from, I explained it above. It’s one of three scenarios:
1) They are spinning their experiences into tall tales or outright lies, knowing they cannot be confirmed, and they are portraying “verbal judo” as more effective in defusing situations than it is, conveniently leaving out the times it blew up in their face. (“A lot of the potential fights I’ve diffused [sic] basically looked like I’m a principal scolding a student lol…”)
2) They instinctively flee from situations with a potential for violence, convincing themselves that it is the high road and that they aren’t really retreating. (“[Fighters] are channeling pent up sexual energy and releasing it through their fists. Guys that get laid know this and are above it.”)
3) They are so intimidated by the possibility of violence that they go out of their way to avoid areas of heightened risk. (“I try to stick to the nicer places… I’m not a threatening looking guy…”)
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See what I mean, Scray?
Take note of how Matt King ignored your question.
Your points are irrefutable: and our dimwitted Jesuit fanatic knows better than to try and answer them.
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Scray wrote:
Read the whole thread. By the time I said that (and it is presented out of context) I was just cleaning up YaReally’s willful misinterpretations.
Here comes the short clown telling the original commenter Blotter, who is experienced in escalating and violent confrontation, that he has to adopt the attitude of the “I’m not a threatening looking guy” wisenheimer to ever be effective.
This was not a point of disagreement, but since you bring it up — yes, he should always be prepared to fight.
Now, if you are an uppity argumentative self-declared PUA, you will now edit my recommendation (confirmed, incidentally, by CH a couple days ago) that “a man should always be prepared to fight” into “a man should always fight.”
This is simply not the case. Physicality is only one component in presenting oneself as a “threat.” An unblinking stare, standing your ground without flinching, a ready posture, stepping forward: these are international signals of readiness.
Size is so overrated as a component that there is a cliche about it, “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.” Little men with experience are fiercer in compensation. Big men are the opposite, often less prepared because they don’t have to be. And big men who have never gotten into the ring are still worse because they are slower, clumsier, and overestimated. Suffice it to say, fighting between men can be equalized by many factors. It’s not just a tale of the tape.
Munchkins who are insecure about their size often overcompensate with a Napoleon Complex or they laugh at honor (manliness) itself as preposterous and something chicks hate, believing “violence is never the answer!” no matter what. It is a feminine perspective. My point is: however feminine you are in your approach to socializing, get over your solipsism and consider that different men with different natural qualities can find success without transforming themselves into somebody else, particularly into a former omega turned know-it-all PUAoid with a chip on his shoulder about his height.
See! This is what happens when you focus on the disagreement rather than peripheral irrelevancies, straw men, and fantastical assumptions about your interlocutor. You get to common ground. You have plenty to teach your online mentor.
But I still wouldn’t say “concede no willingness to fight,” ever. You must always be willing to fight in order to avoid being forced to choose between principle and peace. It’s even got a name, “Peace through strength.” We build large militaries hoping never to have to use them. We take martial arts training hoping we are never in a bad enough situation where it will be relevant.
You’re a man of the classics: read up on Hegel’s definition of a slave. It is all about conceding the willingness to fight.
As I said above, when it is understood that you are not a pushover, you gain respect even from aggressive enemies, and that respect can be used to defuse or escalate a tense situation. More often than not, ratcheting it down is called for — but not always. In fact, turning up the volume is often the most efficient way to resolve a certain kind of confrontation: by representing yourself properly a grudging respect is forced well before it comes to blows, and from there even the recommended first-resort verbal theatrics have a better chance to find purchase.
Peace is not worth the concession of powerlessness. It’s nauseating to
have to defend so basic, so natural a principle that should be as familiar to men as their own blood.
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@Matt
“1) They are spinning their experiences into tall tales or outright lies, knowing they cannot be confirmed, and they are portraying “verbal judo” as more effective in defusing situations than it is, conveniently leaving out the times it blew up in their face. (“A lot of the potential fights I’ve diffused [sic] basically looked like I’m a principal scolding a student lol…”)”
lol ok Matt, please share with us your first-hand experiences with being a short guy in a bar with a drunk jacked angry guy trying to pick a fight that you personally defused by escalating things with him.
I’m sure we’d all love to hear your first-hand field reports on this subject you’re advising on. You know, not just Shakespeare quotes and cute “everyones afraid of little guys cause they’re more intense and my batman comic books told me big guys are slower and since I train in 10 martial arts I’ll ninja block his slow punch and touch him in the secret ninja death spot” platitudes. Real, first-hand situations where you’ve applied the advice you’re spewing.
Because I’m happy to share MY first-hand experiences. I have a lot of them from, you know, going out and being in these situations.
@CGS
I fully agree that there are all sorts of ways to fuck a guy up. But the point we’re trying to get across is that when it goes down in reality, by guys who know what they’re doing and who legit offer value and good vibes and are calibrated etc (ie – not the average value-sucking uncalibrated leech which is who you’ve probably been approached by before), you won’t WANT to do that to them.
You aren’t going to plan to break Brad Pitt’s legs in an alley at last call because he made your group laugh and one of your girls flirted with him and demanded he takes her number after he actively tells her no until she insists. You’re going to go “haha this guy is alright, that was a fun night!”
No ones saying you’re not capable of doing some damage. We’re saying our skillset is designed and trained to create a situation where you will actively CHOOSE not to do said damage or even trigger the mindset in you where doing said damage is an option that crosses your mind and, more likely, you’ll end up doing the opposite and actually have our back if someone else messes with us because you and your group like us.
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Is that what you call those cable-access shows and infomercials you posted above? Your fourth-hand, borrowed “experiences” about “verbal judo” come from retired cops who are giving advice to patrolmen who 1) already carry an air of authority by virtue of their uniform and 2) have deadly force openly affixed to their belt.
Everything else you cite is self-reported, big fish stories which conveniently leave out any critical detail, about the time you like totes AMOGged that 275 lb linebacker with a glare and a clever one-liner.
Whatever decent advice you might have about defusing a situation gets lost in your insecurity about needing to demonstrate your expertise in this area above reproach. It shuts you off from the possibility of learning from others, and especially from critics, which makes you an unreliable teacher and an annoying little gnat when it comes to having a conversation.
Like I said, you come off as a chick with three too many useless graduate degrees, trying hard to establish respect via credential rather than contributing meaningfully to the exchange. For example, this is probably the third time you are repeating the same inane position, albeit with different strategically placed LOLs.
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@Matt
So what you’re saying is “no, I don’t have first-hand experience, but my armchair opinion is really really strong so it should be taken as valid!!” Same ol’ routine. I’m sure NASA scientists are banging on your door to hear your armchair opinions on how the next space shuttle should be designed, I mean you don’t need experience or anything lol
Points for consistency at least!
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Matthew King – Game Advice Written in Latin
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Yeah the problem is I get too drunk. It’s not productive for gaming chicks, and it gets me into those posturing near fight situations at 3am. I need to get better control, a buzz really helps me loosen up and unstifle myself enough to get some momentum, but then I go too far.
I really think I could have pulled that girl. I just didnt have the nerve to take it father. I was so happy feeling myself instinctively using these pua concepts to guide our interaction that far, it was like thats enough for one day. I’m seeing the openings, I’m seeing indicators of interest etc etc. But the only girl i’ve ever had sex with I met on irc of all places lmao, so it’ll take a long time to believe internally that I’m a guy who meets chicks and takes them home. But I’ll get there.
Thanks again for the suppot, this really is an amazing community thats helping people live better lives!
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Don’t focus on the lay. Don’t focus on the pull. Don’t focus on the number. Focus on your form. With correct form and enough approaches the lay, the pull, the number – they all happen. You can’t fault yourself that a discrete outcome fails to materialize; you can only fault yourself for not being at the top of your game.
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Wohoo, nice! Great shit. Fellow new guy here to tell you to keep it up. Keep posting, man. We’re here for ya.
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Here’s a comment peripheral to the OP about marriage and LTR’s.
When I’ve had gf’s or dated within my social circle I’ve been discrete about publicizing it to the group at large.
I show up with my gf and never deny it. But in the past to avoid gossip and unwanted questions I worked out a system with my now ex gf where we would leave and meet down the street after our weekly parties.
One key reason is that i notice guys who do get involved and publicize themselves as a “couple” generally are then subjected to various questions and comments aimed at raising the value of the girl and betacizing the guy, things like “ohhhh [gfs name] will be happy” or “wonder what [gfs name] thinks about that….” etc etc. I’m sure you’ve heard this before.
The point is it seems like the feminist imperative pervades relationships to the point that when you announce yours people immediately assume the guy has to please or live up to the expectations of the girl.
Then of course if you break up, the questions about why you “lost” such a prize arise.
Anyone have this?
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Yes. I would die to see a parallel blog written, with the narrative pertaining to social conditioning of feminism vs what this blogs feature topic is, which is game. I like macro much more than micro. So I’d pay with an arm or leg to see great minds apply themselves to studying and explaining the way society works as a whole, vs the way pieces of said society i.e. girls, work in particular. I think this would cause intelligent macro thinkers to smash open societies conditioning and truly change the world. Instead of blog topics such as “why do girls fall for alphas” I’d rather see topics such as “the underlying difference between an alpha and beta male, and how this difference is manifest as a qualitative attractive differential in the female mind”. I wanna see actual working concepts, not just spin and game. Bigger game. Deeper game. More real rawness. Definitely want to see others expounding on the macro.
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Hello good day http://quatuor-ludwig.net/buysynthroid/ synthroid 0.1 mg and operating instructions should beshould use a mounting accessory
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So, Lily, no walls of text anymore?
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I don’t think it’s our Lily. This is a diff Lily.
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I guess I hate being broke more than I hate being married. The only one of my friends who hasn’t been through a divorce is the one dumbass who just got married. I’ve been exposed to this again and again my whole life, and divorce fucking sucks.
It’s like trying to cut yourself on purpose. Getting cut is easy to deal with, but taking a knife to your own flesh is entirely more difficult. I just can’t do it, both literally and metaphorically. I cannot cut myself on purpose.
So I spent the last year goading my wife into doing it for me. I have no secrets from her, and no shame; no locks on anything, every detail an open book, and the rope she could use to hang me in divorce court. She knows the color of the tongue stud of the girl I was recently gaming, and what her tattoo is. She knows that a certain sound my phone makes is me getting a text message from a girl I’m trying to fuck. She sees how happy I am every time I get close enough just to be experiencing physical chemistry with another girl.
She baked me a cake and all that other shit. She isn’t filing for divorce.
Fuck it. It’s really an offer I can’t refuse, even though I do accept it with much solemn resignation.
What else can I do to get her to divorce me? Fuck a hot 20 year old in front of her? Give me half a chance, and I will. I’ll make a video and make sure it ends up on her goddamn phone.
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if you got the balls to fuck a hot 20 year old in front of her she will love you forever
extra love if you make her lick it clean after
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> “extra love if you make her lick it clean after”
LOL’ed.
The real test of her femininity is whether she will change the dirty diapers of her 20-year-old sister-wife’s babies.
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Lol troubadour you’re a trooper don’t mind the haters. It’s more like tough love.
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Anyone considering a divorce should consult with a recommended family law attorney so that they have a realistic estimate of what will be the (financial) costs. Sometimes these costs are less than they expect. But before doing this get a knife and draw blood from your arm.
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“A lot of those striver class SWPLs who marry matte-faced multiple-degreed chubsters to maximize the odds they’ll shit out high IQ wunderkinds capable of competing in the glorious future of globocorpdiversity don’t look all that happy to me. They look more… resigned.”
Shots fired. Direct hit on Lion of the Blogosphere.
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Yep — caught the reference immediately. The Lyin’ is useful only for mockery, and it’s sad there are so many readers there who don’t seem to understand his blog is a troll and not to be taken earnestly.
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Lisping betaboy gets marriage proposal rejected because his girlfriend claims his penis is too small:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/small-penis-proposal-fail_n_4782584.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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He never should’ve agreed to appear on the HuffPost. All those fat c*nts are making fun of his small donger behind his back. I hope he makes some good cash from his sad documentary and spends it on escorts in Vegas while the HuffPost bitches just get old.
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Conclusive proof YKW is evil:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/14/3934514/new-gender-options-for-facebook.html
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I guarantee Fuckerberg is getting pegged by his heinous wife.
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How about Friedrich Schiller on game:
“Man only plays when in the full meaning of the word he is a man, and he is only completely a man when he plays.’
GAME.
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Whoever has created
An abiding friendship,
Or has won a true and loving wife,
Join in our song of praise,
Yes, all who can call at least one soul
Theirs upon this earth;
But any who cannot must creep tearfully
Away from our circle. …
Even the worm can feel contentment,
And the cherub stands before God.
Gladly,
As His heavenly bodies fly
On their courses through the heavens,
Thus, brothers, you should run your race,
As a hero going to conquest.
Brothers, above the canopy of stars
There must dwell a loving Father.
Do you fall in worship, you millions?
World, do you know your creator?
Seek him in the heavens;
Above the stars must He dwell.
— Friedrich Schiller, Ode an die Freude
And its most famous translation, probably the single best total work of music (and perhaps art) ever produced by man — and therefore having descended to cliché in the last two schlocky postmodernizing centuries …
The climax (hedonists read: “orgasm”) being
Und der Cherub steht vor Gott … Steht vor Gott!
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OT but the decline continues unabated:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560282/Prison-manager-two-year-affair-Britains-biggest-gangster-jail-cell-But-allowed-away-it.html
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This no longer surprises me. I think I’m more surprised to find out a girl-jailer isn’t fucking a violent felon. That would be exceptional. This is just expected.
Which of course begs the question, again, as to why the fuck we have girls watching men in jail.
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To humiliate them. I think that’s the agenda.
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Disagree. Out of political correctness. Same reason we have cops and firefighters (women) who can’t physically do the job. Oh, like they are now pushing women into front-line ground combat roles they can’t do.
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As far as I know, female prison guards succeed in guarding those shackled caged guys without unduly more problems than men have. I could be wrong but I haven’t heard of major problems.
I would be humiliated if a fat woman could peer into my cell at any time and had such control of me. A constant humiliation and emasculation.
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Oh, you didn’t hear of the prison guard harem in Baltimore then? Here we go:
“Federal law enforcement officials say the defendants conspired with or took bribes from members of the Black Guerilla Family to smuggle drugs, cellphones, and other contraband in and out of the Baltimore City Detention Center and several facilities connected to it. Four female corrections officers named in the indictment even allegedly became pregnant (one of them twice) by the gang’s accused ringleader, inmate Tavon White.”
http://nation.time.com/2013/04/24/sex-with-guards-in-baltimore-prison-scandal/
Guards getting neck tattoos mentioned here:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/chicks-dig-jerks-when-quantity-is-its-own-quality-edition/
Ole Tavon got game.
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How many …”Unhappy, semi-extortionate waiting rooms for death”
Lol! More than you’d think. Certainly sums up mine.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/15/3938274/fla-man-guilty-of-lesser-counts.html
Saint trayvons parents opined.
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He’s with a _wife_ that he doesn’t care about, what a moron.
Pretty lame when your claim to manliness is having the stones to be rude to a woman.
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Nation’s Girlfriends Admit Absolutely Everything Riding On Valentine’s Day
WASHINGTON—Confirming that it’s “all come down to this,” the nation’s girlfriends admitted Thursday that, despite anything they may have said or implied in the past, absolutely everything hinges on the outcome of this Valentine’s Day.
Describing the evening as “the indisputable make-or-break moment of our relationships,” the girlfriends explained that if Valentine’s Day fails, in any way, to live up to their standards, or if at any point they sense that not enough effort went into the occasion, then things are as good as over.
“Look, I’m gonna cut the shit here: I’ve basically funneled all my hopes for the future into this one night in which my boyfriend must achieve perfection, or else we’re through,” Virginia Beach area girlfriend Jenna Boyce, 27, told reporters, noting that she will be able to tell immediately if her boyfriend cheaps out on the flowers he has bought her or throws his gift together at the very last minute. “I expect an amazing, thoughtful, nearly flawless experience, one that is simultaneously fun and romantic, and a night I will remember for the rest of my life. Anything short of that, and I walk.”
“I know I’ve stated in the past that I believe Valentine’s Day is dumb and that it’s a commercial holiday and that it doesn’t matter to me, but I was lying,” Boyce added, in total concurrence with every other girlfriend in the country. “That was total horseshit. I, in fact, care more about this than anything, by far.”
The nation’s girlfriends admitted to reporters, and to anyone who cared to know, that nothing their boyfriends have ever done for them in the past, including any and all good deeds previously rendered, will matter in the slightest if they don’t make tomorrow a day to remember.
The assembled women then confirmed that they expect the following things tomorrow, and they “don’t give one flying fuck” if these expectations make them appear either old-fashioned, demanding, or unrealistic: flowers; repeated romantic gestures and signs of physical affection; compliments; assorted gifts of an emotionally resonant nature; a dinner that is sufficiently high-end yet also warm and intimate; two to three fond recollections of the relationship’s origins; an outfit and attention to personal dress on the part of the boyfriend that shows he cares; extended eye contact; highly engaged conversation; no spared details; no mistakes; no jokes that in any way undermine the seriousness and romantic gravity of the evening; no mention of money or cost; and a minimum of 25 utterances of the word “love.”
“And if you don’t like it, that is too fucking bad, because this is the attitude I am walking into tomorrow with and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to alter or subdue that attitude,” said Seattle area girlfriend Sonia Moreno, 31, noting that Valentine’s Day will be the sole metric she will use to gauge her boyfriend’s worth and romantic commitment. “That’s the reality. It’s all come down to this. And so, come tomorrow, I suppose myself and every girlfriend in America will find out for sure if their relationship has a future or not.”
The nation’s girlfriends also confirmed that if their boyfriends are able to go all out and make tomorrow truly special, then there is no reason why they couldn’t make a similar effort on every other day of the year too. (the onion)
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Da fuk ?
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Satan’s annual motivational letter to his minions, 2014
http://opinions.caduceusx.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=16906
“There are two sets of laws and two sets of books now firmly in place, one for the financial Elites and their political toadies, and another one for the tax donkeys beneath them. This blatant injustice that roams the land like a foul, slobbering beast will eventually ignite the firestorm I seek.
American extravagance has surpassed even my highest expectations, as purveyors of luxury goods reap record profits, and the childish desire for instant gratification has become the unspoken ruler of the land. Convenience is now worshipped as a god, sitting triumphant beside entitlement, greed and willful ignorance. Convenience is, as you all know, the name of a peculiarly slick slide into Hell.
One of my favorite sins, gluttony, is running amok, with half of the people groaning under their own weight, sickened and weakened. My loyal minions in the fast-food and packaged food industries have followed my plans to perfection, and my lackeys in the marketing and media have fueled the instant gratification and ignorance which insidiously undermine even the greatest empires.
…
When the people cheer “We’re number One,” I cheer with them, for pride goeth before a fall. When they believe the half-truths, the illusions, the misrepresentations, the misdirections and yes, the outright lies of the ruling class repeated by their toadies in the media, I can no longer restrain my delight, for lies and half-truths are my favored weapons of destruction.”
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> maximize the odds they’ll shit out high IQ wunderkinds
Do they really try to have multiple high-IQ children? I mean, if they do, great. But I get the sense that their thinking about genetics is far too muddled.
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I go out to club haven’t been in a while with the ex chick now my live in again
but man we were clicking on the dancefloor like normal but like we were like one or something
the normal chicks staring with drool coming out their mouths
but like the amount of phone video lights on was staggering of people taking vids of us dancing
nice looking brunette grabs both are hands like I love you guys you always have so much fun together
not trying to brag its just my mind is blown
paprazi don’t give movie stars that much attention and I wasn’t paying people to take pics
the fuck
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I’d like to add to the previous post’s list of Things To Do When Raising Boys the following: When your son is a teen and hopefully showing some interest in understanding how the (modern) world works, teach him to be wary of the stories progressives tell in the advancement of their causes. They are quite often convenient fictions. On second thought, teach that to your daughters too.
Here’s some recommended reading for the faithful which describes one particular flavor of these fictions:
http://themattwalshblog.com/2014/02/16/sure-its-a-lie-but-it-helps-the-gay-rights-agenda-so-lets-just-go-with-it/
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http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/17/3941091/sochi-scene-crazy-emotional.html
Lololozlolz. Women are incompetent
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The absurdity of public-choice theory is captured by Nobel Prize-winning economist Amartya Sen in the following little scenario: “Can you direct me to the railway station?” asks the stranger. “Certainly,” says the local, pointing in the opposite direction, towards the post office, “and would you post this letter for me on your way?” “Certainly,” says the stranger, resolving to open it to see if it contains anything worth stealing.
doesn’t sound so absurd to me.
“Can you tell me how to attract women?” asks the beta. “Certainly,” says the hamster, pointing in the opposite direction, towards the welfare office, “and would you pay for my hellspawn on your way?” “Certainly,” says the beta, resolving to assume an orbit around the pussy.
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OT, but I just noticed something…
Google puts up all sorts of special pics/doodles for every holiday and indeed, lately, every obscure nonwhite on his/her “birthday” or marked special occasion.
And here we are on President’s Day, already a watered-down version of two of our most notable chiefs… yet even then, a big schneider from Google’s front page?
One doesn’t have to look far to see the Signs O’ The Times, Cathedral-wise.
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I’ve never understood guys who have trouble with LTR game. It seems like women are designed to be annoying enough to naturally trigger disinterest, if not disgust in their mate. This disinterest looks like aloof amused mastery to the female and her hamster is thus provided a positive feedback loop of tingles from her increasingly distant (situationally alpha) beau.
That said, I do get how the whole EatPrayLove/yougogirl Culture throws a wrench into Nature’s machinery.
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> “aloof amused mastery”
That’s great if there are no children involved.
But once you have kids with her, you can no longer be aloof & amused.
She simply MUST NOT be allowed to ruin their lives in the way that she has ruined your life.
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“Aloof and amused” always applies, especially when it comes to children. You can be invested without wearing it on your sleeve, where it appears to all the world, and especially to the mother of your children, as a dangerous weakness in a man.
Women and children (and men) react to deeds, they respect outcomes, not strained and especially emotional confessions of loyalty. Save your words for oaths in the context of religious solemnity. Save your shouting for emergency and rare emphasis.
This is also a problem with your personal rhetorical affectations. You are too invested, too emotional, and you come off as desperate. You do not seduce, persuade, or inspire by Henny Penny reaction to every minor obstacle and disruption. Equanimity — another word for “aloofness” — in leadership is the order of the day.
Matt
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Olympics start, Google homepage displays artsy rainbow flag. Presidents’ Day, Google shows…nada. Love it when enemy identifies themselves.
My previous comments on the prior thread about this Google (ahem) oversight got swallowed, so I’m glad someone else noticed.
Although instead I had mentioned Google’s recent homages to obscure persons of color, and had forgotten about their homosexual in-yer-face for the Olympics.
Sign o’ the Times, and the enemy’s hubris is truly starting to show.
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Hey, you failed with the “odd” comment. You insulted her. There is a chance she was down for the threesome but you didn’t play it cool.
Better response would have been, “yea, I love a good threesome.” You seem like a boss with this response. She has to tease and play coy with that shit at first, but she will actually be more interested in you if you own your masculine sexuality unapologeticically. Insulting her was not the move.
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thanks for all the advice.
Keep ya posted on how this develops.
Learning every day.
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Yeah no worries. It sounds like you’ve fumbled a lot but she views you as having potential. I think you’re over thinking the situation and really putting a lot of pressure on yourself to live up to some sort of mental image that you’re a never lose type player. As noted in my posts, would definitely back off and tacitly hint that you’re about sex and having it with with other girls. Again, you didn’t congruently sell yourself as sexual. Either play that card or just cut off because she is deep in your head. You might consider it test of your fortitude to see if you can just cut her off entirely.
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Yeah, she always initiates via text, asks me to hang, and so on. Even calls.
Just have to keep it cool, sexualize some, and give her some hoops to jump through.
I’ll probably play her off the sorority girl who asked me to that formal, if you saw that post.
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