When feminists aren’t happily asserting that women cheat just as much as men do, they’re raging that cheating men are insecure chauvinist pigs who are afraid of strong, independent women. As per usual with the human emojis known as feminists, trying to square their internal contradictions is an exercise in infinitely recursive futility.
Which is why it’s so much fun just to stick the hot shiv in their flabby hides and watch them squeal in pain. Courtesy of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥science♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, a study found that men cheat more not because they have weaker self-control than women, but because men have stronger sex drives that compel them to cheat.
A recently published study strongly suggests men succumb to sexual temptations more than women—for example, cheating on a partner—because they experience strong sexual impulses, not because they have weak self-control.
Previous research has shown that men are more likely than women to pursue romantic partners that are “off limits.” However, until now, the explanation for this sex difference was largely unexplored.
One possible explanation for this effect is that men experience stronger sexual impulses than women do. A second possibility is that women have better self-control than men. The current study’s results support the former explanation and provide new insight into humans’ evolutionary origins.
Let’s tally up the scorecard and see how many losses feminists and their equalist paymasters suffered from this one single study:
1. Men have stronger sex drives than women.
Reality: 1, Feminists: 0.
2. Women don’t have more sexual self-control than men; they just have relatively weaker sex drives that reduce their compulsion to cheat.
Reality: 2, Feminists: 0.
3. Men have evolved different sexual strategies than women, and a higher male sex drive is one manifestation of that evolved sex difference.
Reality: 3, Feminists: 0.
4. Any sexual temptation is harder for men to deny than it is for women to deny, because men have more innately powerful sex drives that they must suppress.
Reality: 4, Feminists: 0.
5. Feminists are stoopid. It’s self-evident.
Reality: 5, Feminists: 0.
There’s a dearly held belief by feminists and their beta male suck-ups that women are the more “moral” sex. But virtue is empty braggadocio if it isn’t tested by vice. The fact that men need to expend greater efforts of self-control than are required of women to refuse the temptation of sexual infidelity is proof that, at least along this spectrum of virtuous behavior, men are the more moral sex.

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The Darwinian angle is pretty obvious – as regards the expected effect of men’s genes on their social behavior.
But the Lamarckian angle is always what intrigues me – given the dominant culture of a society at any particular time in history, what is the probability that a man’s faithfulness to his woman will be rewarded with his woman’s faithfulness to him in return?
And I’d say that with all the cultural poisoning which the Frankfurt School has engaged in, these last 50 or 75 years, the answer is probably “increasingly smaller”.
Which is a pretty horrifying commentary on the times within which we find ourselves.
What is the Chinese curse which Derbyshire is always quoting?
“May you live in interesting times.”
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There’s a dearly held belief by feminists and their beta male suck-ups that women are the more “moral” sex.
Moral systemz created by menz:
Ten Commandments
Jesus godpelez of
Cciceros
Homeric Honorz
Genesisiz
Aristotle’s Ethicz llzooo
Constitutuionsz USA lzloz
Moral systemz create dby womenz:
Cosmo
Vagaina Monologuesz
Jezzeelsz
Femisnsizt Litertauerez
Sex and da cityiz
Eat, Pray, Buththext
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Vagaina Monologuesz – Eve Ensler YKWess
Jezzeelsz – Nick Denton YKW and Jessica Coen YKWess
Femisnsizt Litertauerez – Susan Sontag YKWess, Gloria Steinem YKWess
Sex and da cityiz – Darren Star YKW, Sarah Jessica Parker YKWess
Eat, Pray, Buththext – hmmm…
That Gilbert chick is kinda interesting – she grew up on a Christmas tree farm, without a television set? – but she’s pushing 45, and she appears to have a lifetime Total Fertility Rate of 0.0, so her interestingness is about to vanish into oblivion and go extinct with her passing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Gilbert
“Gilbert” can be a YKW name, but I never heard of YKWs growing Christmas trees.
???
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hhahahahhaahhaha
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Well, no shit.
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Yet another scientifically grounded argument – the reality of which will be completely lost on feminists. Yes, sticking hot shivs in their flabby hides is all good fun – but, as a delivery device – it’s exhausting. Let’s put and end to this:
I advocate for polonium in the cat flood supply.
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Another pathetic beta male made a cringeworthy video. This one is a high schooler with wide eyes and permagrin asking an Olympic skater to his prom.
Good god, where is this boy’s father?
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oh, jez, i love you. a real article they published today suggests as follows: you (a man) should drop a defamation lawsuit against someone (a woman) who falsely accuses you (a man) of rape so that you (a man) do not “[contribute] to the culture of silence surrounding rape”
sometimes, despite myself, i wonder whether or not they really think these things that they write. also, how can anyone say with a straight face that there is a “culture of silence” re. rape?
http://jezebel.com/conor-oberst-asked-to-drop-lawsuit-against-rape-accuser-1529854774
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If by “culture of silence” they mean “all instances, both real and imagined, shouted from the rooftops” then… well…
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Conor Oberst? I have loved his music for years, but always figured him as a typical hipster herbivore. My respect for him has increased exponentially.
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You have to understand these paranoid harlots with flabby sides and saggy tits don’t interact with the outside world at all. They live only in their heads because that’s the only place where such idiocy and degeneracy is tolerated. Even rank and file leftists are repulsed by these airhead tarts.
This is a pretty good idea though. Whenever a woman makes rape allegations, the man should sue her for slander. This attitude actually shows that Jizzebel type of women don’t give a fuck about rape victims. Discouraging lying women from making false allegations would make women who are actually raped be taken seriously. Otoh, feminists love only pretend rape because so much of the actual rape is politically incorrect(e.g. all assault rapes in Oslo committed this decade were committed by immigrants).
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Does it then follow, that men who cheat or have multiple women in their orbit, have higher T, and that is why the “preselection” part of game, then works on women – they go for the man who signifies a higher level of T?
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As above, don’t leave out the Lamarckian angle.
Amongst the original WASP inhabitants of the USA, with their innate WASP culture, the cheating is hugely frowned upon and shamed.
Traditionally, the culture of the mistress was a much more Mediterranean/Eastern/Oriental phenomenon.
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@paddy: I believe that comment you left nailed it. And the vice versa of your statement holds true as well. Men are more attracted to women who have love T levels aka low numbers. In other words if you were given 2 girls that both looked the same but one of them had dudes chasing her and the other didn’t you would pick the one who didn’t have dudes chasing her. The girl, however, would choose the guy who has girls chasing her even if the two guys are equivalent or twins (that’s because he holds power and power is what girls are really attracted to).
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**low T levels haha
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and **the guy who has girls chasing HIM**
Wow i’ll proof read before i post now
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The more feminine (i.e. estrogenic) a girl is, the more men will want to lock her down in an LTR. And, significant exceptions to the contrary, very feminine low-T women tend on the whole to be more averse to riding the cock carousel, which is likely a contributing factor to men’s greater willingness to invest long-term in them.
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> “very feminine low-T women tend on the whole to be more averse to riding the cock carousel”
Do you have “SCIENCE!” to back that up?
Or is it just a hunch, based on lots of experience?
Thanks.
[CH: A field observation. And now that I think about it, this rule is flexible. Exceptions abound.]
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Pre-selection works because a man who is able to sleep with many many women, could have a son with the same gift. For a woman, a daughter can have a handful of children, no more than 6/7 at best. However, a son can potentially have thousands of children.
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Google “White american couple” or “stock photo of robber”. #ParadeOfHumiliations 24 minutes ago
Wow, just wow!
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Lolzolo,
How are those possible?
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Start at 2:52, the joke is at 3:00
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lol holy shit. Eye opener
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WTF?
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Put the reality and NAACP all over you … most criminals overwhelmingly Black. Put White American couple as White get hate crime acusation. Both a feature of White female disgust over beta White males. Cossack whip-a-slut or Putinize and that stuff goes away. White MEN humiliated not women daily. White women at war with White men over latters beta-ness.
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and people still believe in the West’s “freedom of the press” lol
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Self censorship and cliques (such as most of the MSM) are not excluded from the functionality of freedom. If you choose not to speak a word out of your own convictions and not because you were forced by law, then you are still exercising freedom of speech when you make that choice.
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I dunno, the feminists have taken to calling reality “BioTruths” or just a sarcastic “SCIENCE!”. Suck mocking portrayals of painful truths have really made me question their validity.
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“The fact that men need to expend greater efforts of self-control than are required of women to refuse the temptation of sexual infidelity is proof that, at least along this spectrum of virtuous behavior, men are the more moral sex.”
But women cheat for reasons other than sex. Men have to expend greater self-control efforts to resist the *sexual* impulses that lead to infidelity, but women also have emotional impulses to overcome.
I think it’s a stretch to say men are more moral than women in this realm. It’s probably more of a wash.
[CH: Your analogy doesn’t hold, although you do make a tangentially valid point. Men need more self-control to refuse sexual temptation, but women may need more self-control to avoid falling into love once they are having an affair. However, this distinction doesn’t negate the fact that in the realm of sexual infidelity and propensity to cheat, men are indeed held to a higher moral standard than are women by virtue of the stronger temptations that men must accommodate.]
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It’s also in a man’s interest that the cunt doesn’t stray and get a cuckoo for the man to deal with.
But I’d also say that a woman needs a guy around to pay for her and the sprogs. Somehow evolution made the modus vivendi work (if only in the breech)
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This makes me think of my first time in a strip club. I went in there alone on a very slow night, and I was quickly parted from my last scrap of cash in exchange for precisely nothing.
I had some idea what to expect, but was not prepared for how powerful it would be. If that chick had really been serious about fucking me, I would have raw dogged her right then and there, guaranteed.
Even while it was happening, some part of my mind was telling me to be reasonable, thinking about what kind of alphabet soup of crotch rot I would potentially take home to the much littler back then woman, and that part of my mind had zero control of my body at the time.
I really didn’t like losing my self control, and the whole experience pretty much pissed me off as soon as I got clear of it. Oh well, it’s good for laughs anyway. I’m the retard who asked a stripper to make change for a $50.
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I don’t understand strip clubs. Even erotic massage parlors make more sense. At least you get a handjob and do some titty fucking, plus massage. This is why one has to keep their dates cheap. I usually go play bowling, minigolf, go for walks or whatnot with women. Anything more than $20 isn’t worth spending, unless it’s guaranteed she will fuck. Now I only have to improve more to the point where I can make it work routinely.
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Strip clubs function on the premise that the only way you get to see an incredibly gorgeous naked woman in the flesh and get her to pretend to have sex with you is to pay her gobs and gobs of money.
They’re vampires who prey on losers who don’t believe in themselves, basically. There are a lot of them out there. I spent some time in strip clubs after learning game, and I’ve seen some pretty impressive displays of male idiocy.
I’d like to own one. It’s a pretty impressive business setup. Get some local girls with very shitty tattoos who pay you for the privilege of working in your club, pay some college football players minimum wage to keep the peace, invest in minimal infrastructure, and you have a money making machine. There are a lot of obstacles to overcome, not least of which is making sure you stay in the good graces of any organized criminal elements who already have a corner on that market.
Not worth it, but tempting. Paying strippers for their fantasy bullshit on the other hand, not tempting at all.
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This message brought to you courtesy of Captain Obvious and his trusty sidekick, Kid Duh.
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And of course Sgt. Toldyaso.
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Feminists are projecting.
They are the ones afraid of strong, independent women. Especially if they are one of them.
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There is no part of this post that I don’t like but, “virtue is empty braggadocio if it isn’t tested by vice.” Is one of best things I’ve ever read in the entire Manosphere. Polite round of applause from the boundary.
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*golf clap*
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A reference to Cricket not Golf dear lady, and don’t tell me that you don’t play it over there because I’ve been to Nashville and they play it on the front lawns of those “big ol houses”.
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I admit I had to Google it but it turns out golf clap means,
An exaggeratedly quiet clapping intended as a show of sarcastic support or disdain.
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Its almost entirely pointless using sarcasm on the interwebz because it’s hardly ever picked up on.
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That’s how the golf clap started out (sarcastic support/distain), courtesy of some movie with Martin Sheen’s boys playing garbage men, if memory serves.
It has, since then, expanded so that it could also mean its original intention… an exaggerated polite show (on forums, for humorous effect) of applause to express approval.
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Sure, I know all about crickets! They chirp in the backyard 🙂
(My golf clap is the non-sarcastic kind. I agree with what was written: untested “virtue” is truly worthless)
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Two nations decided by a common language
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did u contract golf clap when u put da putter up ur butter?
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u shouldn’t a done dat!! next time ask what would dlakrockas do> lzozozozo
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Ancient wisdom there.
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Equal and similar to “Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue”
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6. Men have not 18% more, but 18 -Times- the average circulating testosterone of a woman.
So, any woman’s id-notion of having something an English-speaker might call a [dr. evil quotes] ‘sex-drive’ is like them thinking a birthday candle could level Hiroshima.
Reality: 6, Feminists: 0.
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I agree in the most part, but do keep in mind that women’s testosterone sensitivity is much higher than males means that their lower levels will affect them more than the same level in a healthy male. That being said, it’s not equivalent to having the same t-levels whatsoever, hence why women have lower sex drives. If it were simply 18x less t = 18x less sex drive we’d have disappeared as a species before we ever hit the “Sapiens” designation of our species.
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Agreed.
That bit might be a part of the “It Just Happened” phenom.
T fluctuates, they’re not used to the daily grizzly-bear-deathmatch men endure, so when they do get some T elevation at all,…
-it’s like a ladytown-Tsunami.
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+In those “History of Sex”-type shows on Hist/TLC/Disc. etc. w/ people like Helen Fisher, they’ve speculated men like wetter kissing b/c there’s a good bit of T in saliva,
so getting that stuff into her at first, can grease the skids to get other things into her shortly thereafter via aforementioned T-fueled poonami.
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1. Men have stronger sex drives than women.
Reality: 1, Feminists: 0.
1. Feminists are quite happy to say that women have just as strong a sex drive as men, when it suits their purpose.
2. The reality is that men have more consistent sex drives than women. We want to fuck all the time, no matter the available talent. Hence, the propensity, even among alphas, for the occasional dumpster dive. “She was there.”
Women, on the other hand, need to have their sex drive activated by a high quality man.
[CH: Yes, that’s true. Women can certainly feel intense climbing-the-walls horniness, but the context and the man have to be optimally situated in their emotional feedback loop. Men feel climbing-the-walls horny more frequently and persistently, and its focus is more scattershot. Thus, it’s harder for men to control their sexual compulsion because it’s with them all the time, like a tiger on their backs. Women’s sexual self-control is easier since they only have to deny themselves when the context for romantic escalation is just right.]
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And I’m sure it relates to why women can be friends with men more easily than the reverse. Women aren’t thinking about sex as strongly and persistently, even if the guy is attractive.
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Amy,
My buttox are building up pressure of compressed gas, and have ballooned in size. They will soon release a billowing Cumulonimbus…
At that point, it will be your honor and privilege to…
…..Detox my Buttox…
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I see Madame Apparent has joined up with Captain Obvious and Kid Duh.
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Oh, be nice. I’m just trying to bait GasButtox. It’s gas game for girls.
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You always were the occasionally-funny one around here.
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Just be sure to stop short of gaslighting 🙂
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CH, good point. A number of women I’ve known (involved with or otherwise) have observed that when a woman is not involved with a guy (or actively interested in a specific guy), it’s almost like their sex drive is put on standby. They don’t feel that almost-constant awareness…
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http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/06/29/jade-beall-post-baby-body
OT, but fucking brutal makes me wanna smash a bitch. i know only a few girls that have had kids and stayed fit, but when they do make an effort to stay fit, they do it well. these girls are literally more bangable than 95% of the girls out there. it’s not fucking rocket science…STOP EATING, FATTY
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The sagging and stretch marks are functions of how elastic the woman’s skin is, and the extent to which her stomach wall rebounds after the massive insult that pregnancy deals it. Neither of those factors are contingent on diet or exercise (the stomach wall muscles are smooth muscle, not skeletal). It’s just an individual body variation. My guess is that most of those women are down to or below their pre-pregnancy weight; their bodies simply aren’t bouncing back.
The above message has been brought to you by the makers of Essure.
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Well the age of the mother has a lot to do with it according to :
http://www.amoils.com/treatment/stretch-marks/stretch-marks-pregnancy.html
“Stretch marks will usually fade within six to twelve months of giving birth although their texture will remain the same. They will therefore not be so noticeable.
Some of the causes of stretch marks in pregnancy are age and suppleness, the hereditary aspect, as well as growth and speed of growth. If you are very young when you become pregnant, for example in the teens and early twenties, then your skin is very elastic and supple. As you grow older and into your thirties, you are much more likely to suffer from stretch marks. It also depends on how much and how fast your skin has to stretch during pregnancy. You might gain a lot of weight rapidly, you might be carrying twins or multiples or you may be carrying a big baby. Finally, you may have excess amniotic fluid which in turn causes the womb and the body to grow larger.”
So we can conclude that young women in their 20s having kids=no stretch marks, while ones that jumped off from the cock carouse and are having kids in late 30s = massive stretch marks.
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And also getting super FAT during pregnancy because “baby has to eat” = FAT ASS massive stretch marks.
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It depends on the skin. Some women can have 4 babies in 30s, no stretch marks.
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hmm didn’t know that.
perhaps a case for hgh
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“The sagging and stretch marks are functions of how elastic the woman’s skin is”
Which is a function of age, which is why I won’t even consider women over 23 to be marriage material. I could hardly care about getting married, but if a woman ever expects marriage from me, it won’t happen if she’s done with her early 20s, no matter how spectacular she might be. The only exception would be if her parents are rich. I can deal with stretch marks if she gets me a SLK. lol
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G5P4, no special postpartum calisthenics, but indeed much better looking than that. Blaming kids for fat-side effects,
(and even if, what a tradeoff for a very perishable commodity!)
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Breastfeeding is AMAZING for eliminating baby weight. If she keeps doing it until the kid is 16 months she’ll be fitter than she was the day she married you. True story.
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Gott in Himmel! Danke! Danke!!
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Who is this woman, and why is she posing naked with her children?
And verfluchte Glück, why are you thankful for it?
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Parce que Ich habe das nicht!
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So sagen Sie.
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She needs to go the fuck back to africa
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The only place she’d go unmolested is Rick’s Cafe Americain… maybe.
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Nein! Keine saggen! 🙂
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Lawdy, lawdy… when the poor puns cross the language barrier, it’s time to bring on the Apocalypse!
Ya got the gab, kid… but ya ain’t got the heart.
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Don’t be dissing my Katie. How can you resist such a cute, sweet-tempered literary redhead? You guys are a tough crowd.
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Omg! HAHAHAHAHA! With friends like this, who needs enemies? 🙂 You couldn’t know how I dislike the name Katie, but redhead? Redhead?!?! Bawhahahaha! The days of blonde are gone! Gone, I tell you! Enjoy it while you’re young 🙂 LOLOL
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Gas Buttox is getting to be like a cop… never around when you need him.
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Don’t be dissing my Katie. How can you resist such a cute, sweet-tempered literary redhead? You guys are a tough crowd.
White knighting has been quite common, but it hasn’t been until now that we’ve seen an example of pink knighting.
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Kate, are you really not a redhead?? I thought you were from your last avatar but I’m not the most observant person in the world.
We’ll stick with cute, sweet-tempered and literary, though.
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I didn’t think I was!?!? 🙂 LOLOL But, you’re probably right. Former blondes *always* consider themselves blonde 🙂
I like having a pink knight. With all this protection, I might never dye!
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Both of you broads should curl up and dye.
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It takes 5 seconds for a man to know his temptations. Men can smell the roast beef while a woman needs to taste it. Sure women can be tempted as much as men when there is an occasion for it…and there is less an occasion for it.
Well, another big surprise to no one with any sense.
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“Men Cheat More Than Women ”
sp-ergo:
Some women really screw around,
or,
they are significantly more discreet about it. And deluded about it too.
Prolly a combination of the two.
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It’s possible that men in relationships screw around with single women and attached women while women in relationships screw around with attached men. Hence men can cheat more than women.
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Feminist(butto)X,
My buttox are blasting out fast, whippy, superheated flares of gas…
Goodness, Gracious, Great Balls of Fire !!
After you pay the $5000 fee, you will be permitted to conduct a ceremonial detox of my buttox…
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Gb, remarkably, it might be the case that your charm is greater now than it was before you read game blogs.
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AKA slut. Or whore.
Simple words elude the dumbfounded.
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Not only that, men are at war with their own biological impulses. Civilization is probably one of the results. Although you could argue at a pinch that civilization is an elaborate way to get women sexed up. That the Unabomber concept btw.
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WRONG. Women are BIOLOGICALLY DESIGNED by EVOLUTION to engage in non stop GANGBANG ORGIES with the FITTEST FUCKING MEn FUCKFACE.
HOLY.FUCKING.SHIT. what the ACTUAL FUCK are you VIRGINS on?
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Okay my niggah.
Keep it up and you too can enter NU. PhD rapology.
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He’s right.
There are 3 types of sperm contained in the ejaculate, supposedly the purpose of one of them is to destroy sperm of other males.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2518022/How-sperm-reveals-man-suspects-CHEATING.html
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And the glans of the penis is evolutionarily designed to scoop out competitor sperm. So the orgy or gangbang (or both) theory holds merit.
I find fault with hypothesis testing because it assumes that the mechanism of attraction for men and women are the same. The study presented images, no? If status, touch, charisma, and wit are left out of the study, how are we to assume that women’s capacity to feel sexual arousal is really less than a man’s? The set up of the study seems flawed.
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Precisely how does that glans theory back up the orgy idea?
More likely that women will cheat on you if you turn your back for a week.
A better test of the orgy idea is that a woman might fantasize about bukkake but not exactly understand quite why… Or at least fail to explain it honestly.
Young women, late teens seem to be the most likely to do this sort of orgy stuff. Then it returns in the mid to late 30s.
It’s rarer in the late 20s and early 30s.
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Sperm displacement as an evolutionary strategy…
http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep021223.pdf
Enjoy.
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Orgies, or gang rapes, or a mix of both, are what likely happened over and over again for generations. If you want the happy go lucky version read the book Sex at Dawn. If you want the more cynical view, read Demonic Males.
We live in a modern world with well defined rules of social behavior. Girls aren’t getting jammed with cocks like they likely were 20,000 years ago, however it doesn’t mean their bodies weren’t designed for it (they were), or that they’ve lost the primal urge to behave as the sexual hosts of a multitude of men. You’re viewing human sexual interaction through a very narrow and context-dependent sociological lens. Take a step back and see the big primatological picture. You seem really angry, btw lol.
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Two teachers from Oswego do not indisputable science make.
It amazes me how the legs of precepts that tickle our respective prejudices grow longer and stronger the minute some grad students or publish-or-perish pedagogues put a thesis on the internet.
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Especially “psychology” teachers.
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See, I always thought that humans were somewhere between gorillas and chimps. It’s a combo of mate guarding behavior and raw sexual competition.
I know there’s an theory out there about female orgasms and ancient group sex. I don’t really buy it, because jealousy is a natural human emotion.
Instead, I think the ancient dynamic was more like classic social circle — group of X people, and over time, the girls eventually are ‘with’ several of the guys. Not saying group sex never happened or anything, but the social circle dynamic would explain why there’s a balance in our species between mate guarding behavior and raw sexual competition (sperm, penis size, etc.).
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*find fault with the hypothesis testing of the study
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I was mocking feminists and their dumb fantasies, you sick cuckolds. My dick isnt scooping any mans cum.
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I mean come on..”designed” by evolution??? its such an obvious joke, you sick cum freaks.
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That “scooping” thing seems to be a favorite meme of the chateau’s (ahem) darker members… for whom every jot and tittle eventually leads to “Muh Dik”.
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How do you know that your cock ain’t scooping out my cum, you ever wondered why your bitch is so salty when she makes you go down on her?
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Congratulations. The dick of your ancestors were though. For many generations. And you can be thankful for their primal behavior since you wouldn’t be around here to post your angry comments without their “sick” actions.
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Greg Eliot
That “scooping” thing seems to be a favorite meme of the chateau’s (ahem) darker members…
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No Greg, you ain’t blamin this one on us. Thats some white sperg nonsense and you know it.
Matter of fact, one of the best things about this blog is all the wierd white sperg “theories” y’all come up with.
I didnt know about telegony till I read about it here.
The white man has his own version of voodoo too.
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You miss the point, as usual, old boy… it may have been some lily-white spergs that needed to come up with something/anything in their publish-or-perish tenure quest.
But it’s YOU dark spergs that give the nonsense legs by repeating it, as if it were gospel.
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For fun…
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Wait a minute the old pua canard that women want as much sex as men and and enjoy sex as much as men do is a lie?!!? like ” leave them better than you found them “…..lool
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It’s not a lie; we just don’t want it with a variety of partners in casual contexts.
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But you DO want it as much or more with your LTRs?
Then why do the sitcoms and movies have such long-running jokes along the lines of “Not tonight dear, I have a headache.” and women being “sex camels”?
Calling Gas Buttox.
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Because, as someone here recently said, women’s sex drive requires “activation”. So our initial sexual impulses are more susceptible to environmental factors. A guy might be tired or have a headache and still have the drive to initiate sex, but women won’t; if we’re not feeling good we’ll need more “activation” to want sex and women usually just shut the guy down and don’t give him a chance to get them in the mood. This is why women in relationships should generally not say no to sex, they should give the man a chance to get them to “yes”.
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Sigh…
(aside) Where’s Gas Buttox when you need him?
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Why? I’m being honest, although possibly not phrasing it well.
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I thought you said you were baiting Gas Buttox?
As they say Down Under, ya cahn’t ‘ave it both ways, luv.
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I love food but…
It has to be caviar and fillet mignon and it has to be on a moonlit balcony.
And you compare your appetite to a person greedily eating 5 big macs out of a paper bag in the hot July sun.
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For the win.
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Men are fundamentally moral or immoral.
Women are fundamentally amoral.
FIN.
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That is what Weininger said,he also wrote the same applies to Joos and that every culture dominated by the tribe is quintessentially feminine
That is why in societies dominated by Joos and women every nobility is banished and non existing
“Noblesse Oblige” was dead long before the archetypical example of amorality and human baseness Bill Clinton pondered over the meaning of the word is
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If the Devil came to Earth and whispered into one of these radical feminists’ ear “I will grant you immortality, eternal youth and ravishing beauty, but only if you tell me the truth of what you believe about biological sex differences. And I will know if you are lying”, would even ONE of these “true believers” in the equality of the sexes NOT say “Of course men and women are different. I just spew that bullshit because I’m angry and I can”?.
The problem that we face, as their audience, to the extent that we willingly are their audience (and I’m glad that CH summarizes their views in a succinct form here, so I don’t have to read them), is that they won’t admit to biological differences because they have no incentive to do so. Nor can society really offer them an incentive because, in the end, we don’t need them to move on. The world will continue to spin whether these women like it or not.
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I cannot believe someone had to conduct a study to determine men have stronger sex drives. When does the study that proves men like hot , young, tight, teenage girls with long hair more than 80 year old women come out? Seriously ,I need the proof of that desire in men….
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This “study” is so laughable, just have to post another time. It’s not real science.
Again, assessing sex drive by showing men and women pictures is a poor methodological selection criterion. Men are able to get highly attracted through mere visual stimulation, women too, but not as much.
Because a man’s sex drive is do dependent on visuals, men are able to get REMOTELY attracted very easily. Women need to be LOCALLY attracted. Like, you need to walk up to woman and interact with her for her to get attracted. She needs to get an idea of who you are via language, touch, etc. Remote female attraction is narrative based (Celebs) more than visual based. Weak methodology, bad science.
The sex drive “switch” is activated on for men all the time. The sex drive “switch” for women is typically only activated through one-on-one interaction.
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Or it could be that any “drive” which requires that much work to get it rolling is inherently weak.
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Thank you.
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Ding ding ding…
Foreplay, romancing…low motivation.
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A man will drive his woman to be a better woman by complaining about how she is getting fat, etc.
A woman will drive her man away by bitching.
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Wow this is the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever seen
http://policymic.com/articles/82899/this-animated-video-shows-the-wild-economics-of-sex
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It benefits none of us to perpetuate the myth that women have lower sex drives than men. In my experience women’s libidos are adaptive. If you fuck them properly, like an alpha, you can fuck them as often as you like. By this I mean leaving them exhausted in a pool of sweat and squirt. Under the alpha regime they’ll even initiate even if you don’t. I’ve been married 10 years and a night off is rare. On the weekends we will usually have at least one “big night” where we fuck three times thoughout the night. I have no interest in fucking other women because my sack is drained on the reg and my wife is the best fuck I’ve ever had and still very trim and tidy with a very toned and expressive vag.
If on the other hand you are uninspiring and beta in the sack their enthusiasm and libido will wane. Once the frequency reaches and descends below their basal libido they become a cheating and flight risk.
So all these guys and their “Captain Obvious” comments are telling us more about their beta tendencies and lack of sexual skill than they are about women in general.
MSM is starting to get real over here in AU: http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/no-sex-please-were-equals-20140217-32umo.html
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What you’ve said fails to contradict anything here. If you maintain your attractiveness to your woman, she will be horny for you. A woman’s libido has a sort of quality control that a male’s libido lacks — that’s the difference. Men are just spontaneously horny
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So all these guys and their “Captain Obvious” comments are telling us more about their beta tendencies and lack of sexual skill than they are about women in general.
Yet another composer of Variations On Cathedral Shaming Litany… meh.
What all you guys with your self-styled Valentino comments are telling us is that you’ve never really had any LTRs to speak of, and very little experience with women worthy thereof.
Banging todays short-attention-span sluts is more like shooting fish in a barrel rather than any imaginary Rhett Butler cocksmanship or game skill.
I’m beginning to think the chateau should have an under 30 playroom… men who haven’t been married for more than 5 years by the age of 40 also allowed therein.
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Another thing — sounds like this poster has bought into the femi-crap of ‘YOU BETTER SATISFY ME SECKSHUALLY!’
Let it go, brother.
You will be her best, when you stop giving a shit about being her best and instead use her for your pleasure.
Do whatever you’re into. She gets off on your reality.
If that means you want to dress her up like a schoolgirl and fuck her, do it.
If it means you want to cut a hole in a sheet and fuck her, do it.
She’s the canvas, you’re the artist and that’s sex. Never assume she would know what painting even was without you, brah.
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Credit where due… well-said.
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Yes, of course.
If you do this and this and this and you are this special kind of guy….
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Do they? I guarantee it varies by age. I’m quite confident women aged 14-30 cheat way more than men of the same age, but men 30+ cheat more than women to an extent that the total amount of cheating is represented more by men.
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An interesting observation. “cheating” might even be the wrong word at that age 14-22. These specimens are shopping for cock.
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Exactly.
Still, it’s a fair point that young ladies are far more fickle than men, and the “broken heart” laments come more from the male gender.
The funny part is, I’m not sure it’s libido or “sex drive” that causes said fickleness… it’s more of a “princess gone wild” unleashed ego sort of thing.
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It’s just that eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap. Hot young girls live in a world of abundance. That’s why they believe in stupid new-age shit ‘don’t try so hard’ ‘just be you and good things will happen.’ They can sit around and have great lives because the world is their validation vibrator.
Men live in a more scarce world. The entire reason men have high sex drives is because men MUST take every opportunity to bone that they can (evolutionarily speaking) because who knows when the next time will be. Make love while and when you can is the life of a man.
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I think this is BS… I’ve been having this debate for decades but I think women cheat more than men because they can. Their sex drives are comparable, although a little different in practice, but their opportunity is way greater, so they take advantage of it. Hot women cheat WAY more than men, even more than serious players. They just lie about it a whole lot more, especially on surveys. It even makes good scientific sense when you think about it.
As for women resisting the temptation of extramarital sex: sorry, but I haven’t seen it.
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I know you guys who never actually encounter women like to imagine they’re all cum hungry cock wolves but in the real world, it’s not so cut and dry, WHere are they doing this?? secret spontaneous trysts in bathroom stalls while waiting for their shitty starbucks milkshakes? the manjaws clearly cheat. hb10s know better and dont even meet enough men they actually find attractive enough to have an affair with in high numbers.
alpha females, the only ones we care about, dont behave like this. but theyre still worthless so who gives a shit. a woman with 3 ltr’s is a woman with 3 failed marriages. she’s damaged goods, regardless of her looks.
Bible or BUST.
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Lol how did your last sarge with the gang from the Jerry Falwell PUA academy go? Yes incredibly hot women fuck in bathroom stalls while their all American investment banker boyfriend is at work pulling a late night. They don’t do it for you because you’re hyper judgemental and your American Taliban attitude is a turn off.
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Bankers dont get incredibly hot 10s unless they are alphas. Incredibly hot 10s who arent psychos marry alphas and alphas only.
I have yet to see a rich successful nebbish with a 10. Or anything but a soft 7.
you imagine christy turlington is with the average ed burns for his wealth and success???? He kicked her to the curb more than once.
youre delusional. And most likely harbor cuckold fantasies
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Banker was a metaphorical term. But I actually have an ex banker buddy who seriously dated a playmatevof the year in her prime, so you’re blanket statement doesn’t hold up.
In the last few months I’ve broken up two engagements (both grooms banker ivy types) and banged a the mother of pro athlete’s a one year old child. They live together. Tonight I’m hanging with a beautiful girl who told me her LT boyfriend doesn’t fuck her hard enough. Saturday I have a fuck date with girl who I imagine has a boyfriend since she can only meet during the day. I’m just curious what sort if cuckold fantasies your alluding to, the cuckolding I’m actually doing?
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This post may as well be a goddamned white knight post. Let it go, brah. See the world for what it is — stop expecting bullshit.
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Women get horny when around a guy at least 2 levels above themselves. Imagine that you’re a normal male 6. Well, let’s say you could only get it up — at all — for 8+.
Your libido would drop — 8+ women are fairly rare. Let’s say you land an 8+ woman. Okay, well now other 8+ women will turn you on…but you already have one you can fuck. It’s really going to be the 9+ women that threaten your relationship — and they’re even rarer.
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Science rediscovering what our grandfathers knew.
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I can’t believe no one asked this question yet? If men cheat more, then who do they cheat with? Monetarily unpaid sluts, good gals who are really lying about being good gals, monetarily paid whores or other men are the only answers I can think of either singly or in any combination. Note that I do not deny that men have a greater propensity to cheat or that men find a higher percentage of women acceptable to fuck than women find men acceptable to fuck. You may not like the question and dislike the answer more. So, what is the answer?
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Married men cheat more than married women. However, single women are more likely to help a married person cheat than single men. Many married men have mistresses who are also married. However, since there are more married men who would like to cheat than their married female counterparts, the left over married male cheaters will take unmarried mistresses. I have seen studies that prove this. When asked, “have you ever had extramarital sex?” a higher % of married men responded “yes”. When asked “have you ever had sex with a person who was married to someone else?” a higher % of single women said “yes”. A good conservative society would tell married men not to engage in adultery and single women not to help a married man engage in adultery. The problem is, while current US society does shame male adulterers somewhat (and a helluva lot if they are politicians), US society does not shame single women who are the enablers of the adulterers. I really wish society would do more shaming of would-be-mistresses.
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I agree. The only thing more true than if you want a job, another job or a better job is to already have a job is if you want a woman (for sex), another woman (for sex) or a better woman (for sex) already have a woman (for sex). Single women are much more likely to actively seek married men for sex than single men are to actively seek married women for sex. I don’t know for sure, but single women may be more likely to say yes to married men’s proposals for sex than single men would say yes to married women’s proposals for sex. It’s called pre-selection, and women do this much more than men. Women may deny this and hate this because the female imperative (another Rollo Tomassi term) would be jeapordized if more men believed this, but what we say here is true, and men would be stupid to deny or hate this. Men worldwide and American men in particular would be advised that there are more sluts and good gals who are lying about being good gals than they ever imagined. Also please don’t deny that many men fuck monetarily paid semi professional whores and fuck fully professional prostitutes.
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My answer is Alpha fux, Beta bux and Omega bad lux.
Sluts mostly fuck alphas, but sometimes get drunk and horny and fuck betas and to a much later extent omegas. Sometimes it does not pay to be drunk and horny, you silly sluts. Not only do you sluts go cock carousel riding, but you sometimes fall on the wrong cockas. It’s not so much mistaken identity as it is mistaken cock falling gone horribly wrong in these sluts eyes. Sluts either deny fucking betas and omegas, they say it was a mistake and that they can’t believe they did that or increasingly they file false rape charges. Either way, sluts run back to Alphas for comfort. Some betas or omegas are so delusional or desperate that they marry these sluts only to discover that they weren’t the first cock to enter them nor will they be the last either. These are notoriously bad marriage prospects.
We now know to use a term from Rollo Tomassi that Alphas create Alpha Widows. Many an alleged good gal really isn’t good and is lying and is an Alpha Widow. She’s more slutty than she lets on. God help the man who marries her as she’s an excellent deceiver and trickster. GBFM mostly talks about avoiding these false good gals alpha widows for marriage. These women turn into divorcees or harpies most of the time.
Whores will fuck most men for a monetary fee. They often support alphas or raise his spawn as single mommies after such said alphas either stay, collect money from the whores and play peek-a-boo with the kids while mommy is working or these alphas abandon the whore mother and their spawn. Either way, these alphas drive pimp-mobiles.
As for other men, well this nation is becoming more homo-sexualized all the time. What did you expect in such times? We are led by President Bathhouse Barry in the USA.
[CH: Alpha fux, beta bux, omegas chucked.]
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http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23971.html “Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry “
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Post: #3RE: Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry
GBFM is a genius.
“alpha fucks and beta bucks” — GBFM”
“There is a strange hypnotic brilliance to GBFM.”
“Yeah – his Matrix responses are the best.”
“I think GBFM is Sven Thompson. Read the comment section how he mentions exactly the books GBFM always mentions. He is completely serious here though.”
dey be sytitfying an dparsisnig da gbfm at roossh zlozlozoz
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23366.html
“GBFM? What dat’ about?
Anyone got any theories?
Also – if I can find it. I will post up one of my favourite comments by him. It is one of the funniest, most bizarre and yet profound comments I have come across.
[EDIT] – Okay I found it. I love this song from GBFM…
“da professional womenz ode”
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats”
http://therationalmale.com/category/hypergamy-2/
“Chick Logic
In the past I’ve described the female sexual strategy as schizophrenic, but what it really is is pluralistic. All the jokes you read as 4Chan memes about ‘chick logic’ are only funny because we all have an intrinsic, largely unspoken, understanding of this sexual pluralism. The female sexual response is characterized by a dual nature, Alpha fucks and Beta bucks.
That’s the simplistic, distilled version ready for easy consumption and understanding, but the feminine sexual response is much more detailed on an individual level, and much more significant on a social level than just this jargon. Every stimulus bearing on the feminine, from how she’ll explain her girl’s night out to her LTR Beta, to how women in the workplace can rejigger legislature to create a society directed by the feminine imperative, all come back to the Alpha fucks / Beta bucks equation for optimizing Hypergamy.”
lzozoozozozozo graphic!!!
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qzzuz/
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http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com/2013/02/europe-trying-to-hide-alpha-fucks-beta.html
http://www.returnofkings.com/3303/american-women-are-mad-they-arent-courted-anymore
“Yes…a friend of mine sent me this article the other day. I laughed really hard. What it is talking about was entirely predictable…and was predicted by many. Women are chasing the alphas and only accepting beta chumps to pay the bills.”
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/woman-admits-to-alpha-fux-beta-bux-dating-strategy/
“Woman Admits To “Alpha Fux, Beta Bux” Dating Strategy” lozozozozozzoz
http://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/dating-2-0-a-definition/
“Dating 1.0 was murdered way back in the late 1960s by knife-wielding and birth control-taking women who wanted alpha fucks and beta bucks and so spawned Dating 1.5 where alpha guys had it made and beta men were kept in the dark. Until the Internet and the Manosphere, Dating 1.5 reigned supreme. But now that men are finally figuring out the score, Dating 2.0 has emerged. The only scenario by which we could return to something even vaguely resembling Dating 1.0 is when private, effective, male birth control is widely available.”
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/over-promise-under-deliver/
“ybm says:
July 11, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Forgive me if I don’t celebrate women turning against feminism. What will they replace it with is a good analysis to look at:
-They’ll convince men that they are weak, dainty, inferior little creatures who need a man to protect and guide them.
-They’ll probably want to go back to being able to stay at home while hubby works 60+ hours a week at a pay lower than inflation adjusted incomes from the 60s.
– The divorce/alimony/child support/ racket will be kept
– Alpha fucks beta bucks is a genie that wont be going back into the bottle, neither will female promiscuity.
– They will expect chivalry from men again. Including men being conscripted to fight wars for them, ‘women and children first’ and the man always paying on dates.
Some victory. Congrats men! Lay done your arms, the war is over! WE WON!!
And I think for the majority of idiot males, they’d actually think they won.”
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i need to send dat fatass birdemadedz some t-shirts!!!!!!
http://www.cafepress.com/greatbooksformen.582539775
“da professional womenz ode”
SPECIAL WEDDING EDITION
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
SPECIAL EDITION WEDDING CHORUS lzozozozo
i gave it 4 free when i was younger hotter tighter
back in college when i was thirty pounds lighter
can’t hardly wait to butthext yyou in divorce court
and have you fund my favorite buttehxtual sport
gonna buy sexy lingerie with all dat alimonee
fuck & suck alpha cocks as ur beta cock is just 4 pee
tee hee hee teee heee heee l
tee hee hee teee heee heee !
i’m da modern liberated womanz
i buttehxt before and after marriage
and during it too, but not with you
but with the father of da baby in da carriage
lzozozzlozoz
cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats
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https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/big-mistake/
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ALPHA FUCKS & BETA BUCKS DAT IS HOW WE ROLL! lzozozozo DA GBFM rveoltoutinez da internetz woolrd with his ALPHA FUCKS BETA BUCKS POEM Zlsososlzlzl zlzlozozozooz alpha fux and beta bux poetry poeteriesz lozozozzo poem poem poem poetry lzlzlozozoz
“da professional womenz ode”
alpha fucks and beta bucks
dat is how we roll
da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
and in our anuthes it doth deosul
alpha fucks and beta bucks
it is da way of da fed
to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
cuckold dose who pay for our bread
beta bucks and alpha fucks
it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
da assetts from betas we plucks
after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
and say da great books for menz was all fools.
yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats”
hlzozoozlozoz
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I stand corrected. It was you who coined the term Alpha fux, Beta bux. I said Omega bad lux. Hertiste said Omega chucked. I say now Omega chuxt. Alpha fux, Beta bux and Omega chuxt. Watch the 1955 film “Marty” staring Ernest Borgnine and see how even an omega had hope back then that he doesn’t today.
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I want credit for coining the nickname Bathhouse Barry for Barrack Obama.
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A quick reply.
A college professor might have fucked a couple of ex students.
A random chick at a bar
A peer within the profession
A coworker
Your takes em as you come across em.
😉
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And they all don’t have to be 8+ 😉
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Men and women actually have equally strong sex drives, but they manifest themselves in different ways. Men have a strong desire for copulation, while women have an equally strong desire to have a man interested in copulating with her – whether she does or not is a different matter – but the desire for her to be lusted after equals men’s lust, and she puts considerable amount of time and effort into it. (Women’s love is fundamentally narcissistic – she wants to be an object of desire).
Some choice bits from No Ma’am & Otto Weininger: (Weininger is added at the bottom of the page).
Contrary to the general opinion, there is no difference in the total sexual impulses of the sexes…
Any such idea comes from a confusion between the desire for a thing and the stimulus towards the active part in securing what is desired…
It is important to distinguish between the intensity with which sexual matters are pursued and the proportion of the total activities of life that are devoted to them and to their accessory cares.
The thing which also happens is, because of men’s linear brain, when men think about sex, they think about it intensely – maybe even to the point where they have to masturbate… but then after, those thoughts go away and he concentrates on other things, like complex math equations which take all of his brain power or what not – whatever man does is linear and so intense that he focuses his attention on it 100% until it is gone, then he focuses on the next subject with 100% intensity and forgets the previous subject. (After I got horny thinking about that girl, I went to the bathroom and jerked off, then I went back and concentrated completely on my work).
Women are multi-tasking or “diffuse” brains instead of linear ones. They are good at doing several things at once (biologically developed to help them care for children), but whatever they do is at a lower intensity – thus, why women never invent anything (their diffuse brains never focus intently enough to create – they are piano players, not composers). And so it goes with sexuality. A woman spends a little bit of energy all the time trying to be sexy. It starts in the morning and ends at bedtime, and in between she spends inordinate amounts of time achieving her goals – from putting on make-up, to choosing outfits, to the way she acts, and so on – chicks spend virtually ALL day trying to be sexy to create male desire for her – and it doesn’t have to manifest itself in copulation to be achieved – Thus, why women like to go to dance clubs and dance with random putz’s who buy them drinks – it strokes their egos without sex.
This is why Weininger and other of those misogynist cretins from the past used to say, “Man is partly sexual, but woman is always sexual.”
(He operates in bursts of 20% of his time at 100% sexual intensity, while she operates 100% of the time at 20% intensity).
Women get sexual validation from having men lust after her sexiness, while men get sexual validation from penis in vagina sex. The desire for validation is equally strong in each sex. Thus, you see upon beginning puberty that most girls are now losing their virginity at 14 years old, while boys are losing their virginity at 16.
The fourteen year boy is just as horny as the 16 year old boy, but the 16 year old outranks him in “alpha,’ for various reasons we all understand.
But, girls are still losing their virginity about 2 years earlier than guys… and yet we say guys have a stronger sex drive.
What the fourteen year old girl is really doing is going for “alpha” – which is often a guy two years or more older than her. She may not really want to have sex (PIV), but, she sure wants that 16 year old boy to want to have sex with her – as much as her pimply 14 year old male classmate wishes she would look at him and whisper dirty words in his ear.
Men and women have equal sex drives that manifest in different ways. The feminists are wrong to claim women want PIV sex as much as men, but everyone else is also wrong that women don’t need their sexuality validated as much as men.
I once read a comment by an older women in her fifties, speaking to younger girls about guys being sex obsessed horn-dogs. She said she knew it was annoying, but you won’t know how much you’ll miss it until it’s gone.
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What a bunch of gobbledygook!
It don’t count as a sex drive unless you want to fuck without having to have the planets in alignment and no pea under the 37th mattress.
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“It don’t count as a sex drive unless you want to fuck without having to have the planets in alignment and no pea under the 37th mattress.”
Aye, this.
The analogy would be to claim that car A has a better engine than car B. Sure, car B starts every time, is super powerful and fast, and runs without fail to every destination, while car A needs several applications of jumper cables, carburettor spray, pumping the gas pedal, flooding the engine then clearing the flood, then eventually it starts, gets you 1/2 the way to the destination at half speed then stops in the middle of the road…but man, did you see how shiny the air filter cover is on car A?!?
A large part of sex drive is desire to initiate. With that at < 20% for women compared to men's +80%, I think the difference is clear.
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this is very good, and a clear primer as to how the sneaky fucker gets the poosy.
wired like a chick.
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Didn’t read. http://8wayrun.com/attachments/didn-t-read-bush-gif.23344/
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Women’s sex drive is narcissistic.
Girls get turned on by seeing men getting turned on by them.
All game is a manifestation of this law. You don’t want her to get validated that easily. You want to make her work before you validate her even though you knew all along you were turned on by her.
Excellent comment.
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You guys are making the mistake of thinking women 24 and under in the throes of new love = “all women”… come back after a few LTR’s (5+ yrs) and we’ll talk about “women”.
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Exactly which part of my comment makes you say that?
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By your “excellent comment” remark on what amounted to Cyberian shithouse sociology.
You fairy.
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Also, at this point I don’t really care for LTRs. I see no point in LTRs. I don’t think I’ll consider them even for babies. I might just use a surrogate.
I don’t really trust women. Especially with the modern “laws”.
I’d rather use a beautiful, young, healthy surrogate to create a baby for me in exchange for money.
DNA testing FTW.
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The Millennial SWPL strain is strong in this one… more’s the pity.
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How’s the song go?
“I want you to want me, I need you to need me.”
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Well, Greg Elliot, that was an amazingly intelligent response.
It seems odd to me that people who claim women can’t contain the gina tingles enough to stop divorcing men in droves, also claim women that women have such significantly lower sex drives than men. If they did, then why are they leaving their unsexy beta husbands, unable to resist the allure of the alpha or the cock carousel he represents. The Beta makes more money, is better for her in every way, and yet she fucks the thug anyways. In other words, she is led around by her clitoris, rather than her brain.
Understanding women’s need for sexual validation will account for 90% of the free pussy you will ever get – ie. “take away game” – yet, the pua-sphere constantly toes the feminist line that women are dragged, unwilling, into sexual encounters. This is the fundamental basis for false rape accusations, people!
Many important historical philosophers have noted this… it is not gobbley-gook, as you say, but an important part of the red-pill and game.
Stop thinking of things in male terms (PIV sex) and think about it in female terms (What she GETS from being a sexual creature – or, Briffault’s Law). Female’s use their sexuality to manipulate males almost instinctively from puberty onwards – and if you deny them the validation of their sexuality, you have portrayed an alpha quality. Acknowledge you are a sex-starved putz who needs to jack off every time she walks in showing cleavage, and you lose.
Are you not actually studying game?
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The flaw in Briffault’s Law.
The basic assumption that the savage Africans that Anthropologists mistook for our primitive ancestors (instead of them being our evolutionary er um coequals in humanity) are anything like us is the root of the problem.
I don’t think that the matriarchy that you see in the hood is anything like the bands of men and women who colonized Europe and Asia. We would still in mud huts if we were. The caveman did thump the red head and drag her off for rape (like the African) the human human outside Africa developed something called culture that the female human has leeched off for 70,000 years. In the last 200 the black has leeched of the creativity too. Very soon the entire edifice is going to collapse.
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Didn’t thump the red head…
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If they did, then why are they leaving their unsexy beta husbands, unable to resist the allure of the alpha or the cock carousel he represents. The Beta makes more money, is better for her in every way, and yet she fucks the thug anyways. In other words, she is led around by her clitoris, rather than her brain.
There are apparently many “worlds” out there, and I do not inhabit yours, nor witness women doing this sort of thing in the droves that are imagined here at the chateau and trumpeted by the MSM, for obvious reasons.
Of course, I probably travel amongst a better class of people than most of you self-styled sociologists.
The topic at hand itself is how science has (DUH) proven that men have higher sex drives, and anyone with ANY experience in the field can tell you that.
As far as the “leaving their husbands” schtick goes, we’ve gone over this before… even the studs of Hollywood, TV, and music can’t seem to hold onto their wives nowadays.
There’s something in the air besides women’s legs.
As far as your snarky “that was intelligent” butthuredtness, welll… I would have thought by now all here recognized my propensity for drive-by mockery when you pseudo-red pillers spout Cathedral litany without realizing it.
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This is true:
There are apparently many “worlds” out there, and I do not inhabit yours, nor witness women doing this sort of thing in the droves that are imagined here at the chateau and trumpeted by the MSM, for obvious reasons.
Of course, I probably travel amongst a better class of people than most of you self-styled sociologists.
There is a whole lot of posturing going on that shows a cartoonish world. People latch on to the word “alpha” and take it way too far. The “alphas” you see in real life are not what some describe here: some hyper force that attract women like a magical magnet. They have to work for it, same as everyone else. They are just better at working for it than most, which has to do with looks and personality and standing in their social circle. (It is telling how seldom social circles come up in the conversation when people praise “alphas” and look down on “betas”)
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Greg doesn’t go out and pick up women. He is angry that he is married and has to take care of his three kids who who are friendless due to all the nigger jokes they’ve been forced to parrot and nifty 1950s throwback outfits he makes them wear.
You’re absolutely right about validation. Any alpha guy in a LTR will tell you it’s his wife, not himself, who presses for sex in the relationship. The drive for sex originates from her, and it is about validation.
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N166er, please!
Your usual suspect Cyberian outhouse psychoanalysis and tiresome Cathedral shaming litany is played… soooooooo played.
Especially when you talk about a man’s family from the safety of your keyboards.
He is angry that he is married and has to take care of his three kids
For the record, and as per your short attention span, I’ve mentioned numerous times it’s four kids, and pretty much empty nestville now.
What I wouldn’t give for just ONCE to have one of you South Park snarkers standing before me and have you spout off about the family.
Of course, we both know that would never happen… so:
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Greg, only you would assume I’m black just because my dick is big.
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So say you…
And when it walks and talks like a duck… well… it’s usually a duck, as the maxim goes.
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Greg,its FIVE kids you honly SOB! You tries to deny my ass but you caint! If’n you dont want no ‘sponsibility den you shouldna slepp wiff my momma! You rememba her dontcha,dont lie! LaDelicious Jackson. I am her son Tarquan! Tarquan…Eliot!
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Look into your heart… you know it to be true…
Damn, boy… I thought I named you Luke.
Next time I see yo’ mama, I’m gonna kick her in the azz.
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Any alpha guy in a LTR will tell you it’s his wife, not himself, who presses for sex in the relationship. The drive for sex originates from her, and it is about validation
Spoken like a neophyte fool who
a) takes anecdotal hearsay as gospel, and that from self-styled ‘alpha’ men, who of course NEVER exaggerate their power of their women (lozozozlzlzozozlzozl)
b) has absolutely NO experience with LTR married couples, including his own household growing up… I’d wager a month’s pay, judging by his posts here, that he was raised in a home without a father.
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More from the Men of Old – written over 700 years ago!:
“People say that women are lecherous. On the surface, these words sound insulting. However, with due respect to all ladies, it is necessary to speak as one finds. . . .
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If there is anyone who says that women with their tits and boobs are colder than the male, let him lose his purse and its contents. If anyone has come to this conclusion, he hasn’t looked at the evidence carefully enough. For, by Saint Acaire of Haspre, their lust is much stronger than ours and turns into greater ardour. A woman underneath a man gets very excited. But let’s say no more about it at present. . . Women are by nature very weak and frail and more fragile than glass. Ovid says that woman is only chaste when no man courts or chases her. Given their lust, the pope has granted them permission to marry without delay in order to pay the tribute their flesh demands. For otherwise they would hardly manage to wait and would offer or sell themselves to all comers.”
Thus, why women were married off early before the 19th Century (and, actually, it is interesting that before the 19th Century, it was a commonly held belief that BOYS needed to be protected from women’s sexuality, rather than the other way around!). “In the old days,” before birth control, it was well known that the average female wouldn’t age into her twenties without getting pregnant before marriage. So they married them off young, before they cock-carouseled and became the town whore.
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Just a quick programming note. Recent studies have shown an uptick in female infidelity rates over the past ten-twenty years, converging on the male infidelity rate, though still lagging men by a non-trivial percentage. If it’s happening (and my personal belief is that it is), then it’s yet another data point in favor of the hypothesis that Western women are becoming masculinized in their behavior. It’s almost like you could draw parallel lines between increasing female self-sufficiency and increasing female infidelity. Or: When beta males lose mating and resource provider value, any incentive for women to stay faithful to betas goes out the door.
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Or a data point in favor of the modern Western world becoming more tribal (Seth Godin) via technology, and returning to more primal, tribal sexual practices (sharing women).
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It’s almost like you could draw parallel lines between increasing female self-sufficiency and increasing female infidelity.
I would argue that this is indisputable fact… broads act A LOT different when they have their own resources, or believe they can get them.
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I don’t buy it. What I think is happening is women are becoming masculinized enough to ADMIT what they’ve been doing for probably 10000 years. Before the last few years, they just understood they should lie about it, lest they be kicked out of the cave, or the village, etc.
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Interesting how everyone suddenly turns into a scientist when it comes to this subject.
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@ Ch,
What you say is true – I see it all the time with MSM TV interviewing people who say that female education leads to population control – ie. Making women out-hypergamy men, means they are less willing to pop out the kids.
This isn’t a joke. Guys like Jeff Rubin, who get interviewed on TV regularly, read fembot books about how this is a good thing, and spout it on the MSM regularly.
The more educated and employed women are… the less babies they have.
This is all fine and good, unless, like us in the West, we have borrowed copious amounts of money based upon our every growing population being larger than in the past, thus making it easier to pay off debts. ((2 Million people can pay off billion dollar debts easier than 1 million people). But, now that feminism has so succeeded in fucking up our birthrates, we are now having 1.5 babies per couple instead of the 3.9 we had in 1970. Our debts cannot keep up, and with all the socialism women voted for on the credit card, the lesser population that feminism created can’t keep up with the debt tally – we are going broke because women aren’t having babies!
Enjoy the decline, as they say.
Wheee! This is a great ride!
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This is why I laugh when people say Africans will have less children because of economic development and lower infant mortality rates. The decreases in fertility rates are nothing what these people would predict based on their ideas. Female education and ’empowerment’ is the reason for the abysmal Western birth rates, not the economic development.
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Think of it this way: If we didn’t want to f*ck women all the time, the human race would die out because we would see women and kids as an unmitigated pain in the ass to deal with.
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If we could just be happy fucking dudes, we’d never bother with chicks at all.
You want to fuck a dude, find a glory hole and stick your dick through it. It’s that easy. I’ve been desperate enough to try to go through with it, but I just can’t.
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lozlozl + gay
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When you take a totally blue pill blue state guy and put him with a repulsive wife, that’s what comes out. She’s really beautiful on the inside and she’s a wonderful person, and she’s totally repulsive. She’s supposed to be attractive, because the kind of guy I’m supposed to be should see her true beauty.
Maybe I’m gay? I must be gay.
It kind of went like that. So long (and probably hilarious) story short, I went and found out that I’m not gay.
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women and kids as an unmitigated pain in the ass to deal with
Well, to be fair, kids are a barrel of laughs, and the pain in the ass one gets from one’s own children is very often mitigated.
From the women, eh… not so much.
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Yeah, yeah, I know…
“Good father? FUCK YOU! Go home and play with your kids!”
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Anonymous, your comments make sense, however you kind of lack the concrete science to support it. i.e. testosterone is a molecule that has scientifically proven functions in the body. However, I think your argument is accurate, I’ll try to explain:
If you break everything down to science (which is basically the best way to explain/describe and prove things in the world) you can see where all of this is coming from. That means evolutionarily and instinctively break it down. The goal and drive for every human being on this earth is to procreate with the best genes to move humans forward and to better our species. This is linked with the philosophical idea that people do what is in their own best interest; which, is 100% true. Again every individual’s drive is to procreate with the best genes thus creating the “sexual market”. In markets you will ALWAYS have competition (for the liberals reading this…competition is good because it advances things faster). Anyways, humans are driven by this innate goal to procreate with the best genes and that is why you will always observe selfish acts or at least subconscious selfishness (i.e. urges to fuck over your husband/wife).
Fact: Men have higher T-levels and women have lower T-levels.
Fact: Higher T-levels correspond with higher drive for PIV sex. The whole she goes 20% intensity 100% of the time and he goes 20% of the time 100% intensity is understandable and logical and that argument makes sense. Humans have evolved this gender difference in testosterone, without this difference procreation would have been halted in our primal days.
If the guys out there simply put yourself in a state of mind where you’re not horny as fuck and trying to get the PIV you will realize that the next thing up for our innate selfish selves is the drive to be desired and get sexual validation. Look at the girls who you don’t care about fucking. The next step in terms of your innate desire to up the feel good (aka be selfish) is to get sexual validation. It’s basically all game theory from there. Anyways I agree with Anonymous for the most part.
I’m wondering if any of you have input on this idea… It kind of makes sense that a girl (especially one not on BC) can have as many as one different sex partner a month and be fine with it as long as that one sex partner is alpha. If they are innately wired to fuck the alpha male and raise a kid then the fact that they don’t actually have a kid just repeats the cycle to when they are ovulating again to fuck another alpha male (if not the same). I also think it would be interesting to tie in the human evolution of our frontal lobe. The frontal lobe separates us as a species.
The executive function of the frontal lobes involve the ability to recognize future consequences resulting from current actions, to choose between good and bad actions (or better and best), override and suppress socially unacceptable responses, and determine similarities and differences between things or events. CH you might be able to have some more ground breaking, eye-opening posts if you made some further connections with this…
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Some typical Australian Fairfax media drivel.
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/life/blogs/love-and-other-flings/still-single-in-a-sea-of-worthy-women-and-charmless-men-20140224-33bvf.html?rand=7121989#comments
Some of the comments are great.
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@ Director,
The flaw in Briffault’s Law…
It doesn’t matter, really, if Briffault’s Law is flawed, or if it is a mere supposition rather than a capital “L” Law, or whatever other arguments are made against it.
Mere observation and common-sense should suffice to validate it.
After basic survival, every organism on earth has as its fundamental secondary purpose to reproduce.
Believe it or not, this includes human females, as they are of the animal-living kingdom just as all others. Any living creature that fails to reproduce, in a biological sense, simply fails. Full stop. Males fail far more than females do… as in, most male sex cells are unsuccessful – only one sperm out of millions is successful.
But a female egg that fails to get fertilized… is MONUMENTALLY more of a failure than a sperm cell that couldn’t get to the egg. If the egg can’t get ANY sperm cells swimming towards her… she has failed in her entire existence.
Even further up the chain, into more complex organisms… like mammals, most females manage to reproduce while most males do not. It seems like females are the ones always getting banged, rather than males. This is how the world works.
Women get the baby rabies for a biological reason, you guys. It is pretty powerful. Women have even been known to save sperm after a blowjob and used it later to impregnate themselves. Guys like Rollo often talk about women’s propensity to cheat with more masculine men during ovulation… and well, so on and so on.
What makes anyone believe that women are less jerked around by the need to be sexual creatures because of their very biology than men are? It’s absurd… unless you believe in all of that new-age Boomer gender is a social construct crap. The thing is, if we are of the animal kingdom – of which I believe we are, at least on some level – then we are also beholden to their rules. All living things are ruled by the desire to reproduce – it manifests in our brainstem, not our cortex. We don’t consciously choose these behaviours.
But at the basis of the biology of male and female, is this fundamental rule; “He chases her until she catches him.” This happens in EVERY organism that reproduces sexually.
If no man is chasing her… she’s done for. A female deer in the forest giving off pheremones that she’s in heat isn’t really much good if she can’t get a few bucks vying for the chance at her, is she?
In every living thing on this planet, is the female manipulation of the male to provide her with what she wants WHEN she needs it (sperm, resources, whatever). This even includes plants, which demand the male pollen be delivered copiously upon her flower at the exact moment she is in bloom. He is always at the ready for her. Never is she producing for HIM what HE wants… unless he plays “take-away,” – Either as a group the males shun her and she is an abject failure and becomes desperate, or the individual male believes he is so high value, that she shuns the other available men to find out why ‘that guy who is ignoring my pussy signals” thinks he’s so valuable that he can pull that stunt… and who is that bitch talking to him… she probably wants his sperm too… ugg… this social proofing!
All in all, the female is very much a part of the process, and tends to get much crankier than the male when she can’t get satisfied.
Have you ever refused a hot & bothered woman sex?
They go berserk frickin’ crazy. 10 times crazier than a man.
Women might not desire intercourse as much as men, but they certainly desire men lusting for their golden honey pot – and what that does for them – as much as men lust for the honey pot.
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Infanticide…
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Wow. This. I wish you would give yourself a real name so I could look for your comments.
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“Finnegan”
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“They go berserk frickin’ crazy. 10 times crazier than a man.”
That’s normal because female arousal is contextual and consequently they get to practice self control less. Imagine being turned on only if a woman sucks your dick. If that was the case, you’d practice self control by saying no to blowjobs, but if somehow a woman sucked you off and turned you on, you’d go insane too because you lack an evolved sense of self control. Turning women on and leaving them stranded is pretty funny though, especially since you know they will masturbate with far more fury than you ever did.
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Also, I’ve read this blog pretty closely; but, I am still confused as to how much control men have in keeping a beautiful woman loyal to him and in control of the relationship. To what extent can you get a girl that you’ve fucked to chase you and be a loyal LTR and raise your kids etc. to what extent do men have control over this and how do you gauge it? 16 poon commandments are a good indicator but if you can’t sustain the commandments then do you next the girl to a new one? Help CH ha
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A. Sustaining those 16 poon commandments isn’t hard once you start understanding the economics of sex.
B. Why would YOU want to KEEP a girl? It’s her job to keep you. You already got the better years of her life. Hopefully, you’ve crushed her pussy into a jelly-butter mix by now. You paid a low price if any and got the better product. If someone else will pay for that shit, you gotta thank your stars and find another younger one.
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“raise your kids”
Because you want children and you’d rather not have them be raised by a single mother that gets pumped and dumped by all the bad boys at the local bar? Of course, you can do the alternative strategy and just impregnate a lot of women and deal with child support.
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Yes…..due to biochemistry and the magic of testosterone men have a higher sex drive. This of course comes to us from the “Department of DUH!”. However unless all those men who are cheating on their wives/girlfriends are
banging each other in the bunghole then that cheating involves a female…and
thus the odds are that about as many women cheat as men and they do so about as frequently as men do. It’s just that women who cheat have this little issue with rationalization and thus when polled about it they can say with a
straight face “I’ve never cheated on my man, now excuse me while I go douche the poolboy’s jizz out of my snatch before my husband get’s home”.
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@ Will,
I’ve read your comment and would like to respond… but I am just heading off to bed, so I will have to review it again in the morning. Apologies.
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Given the higher male sex drive (that was never in question) one can but conclude – given the rareness of men forcing themselves on women – that in addition, men also have greater self-control.
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If men have higher sex drive, doesn’t that mean they will masterbate more often? I’ve never understood the correlation between sex drive and need to merge with a female body. Just jack off?
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http://racehist.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/heritability-of-facial-attractiveness.html
Heritability of facial attractiveness and masculinity-femininity
Estimating the Sex-Specific Effects of Genes on Facial Attractiveness and Sexual Dimorphism
Human facial attractiveness and facial sexual dimorphism (masculinity–femininity) are important facets of mate choice and are hypothesized to honestly advertise genetic quality. However, it is unclear whether genes influencing facial attractiveness and masculinity–femininity have similar, opposing, or independent effects across sex, and the heritability of these phenotypes is poorly characterized. To investigate these issues, we assessed facial attractiveness and facial masculinity–femininity in the largest genetically informative sample (n = 1,580 same- and opposite-sex twin pairs and siblings) to assess these questions to date. The heritability was ~0.50–0.70 for attractiveness and ~0.40–0.50 for facial masculinity–femininity, indicating that, despite ostensible selection on genes influencing these traits, substantial genetic variation persists in both. Importantly, we found evidence for intralocus sexual conflict, whereby alleles that increase masculinity in males have the same effect in females. Additionally, genetic influences on attractiveness were shared across the sexes, suggesting that attractive fathers tend to have attractive daughters and attractive mothers tend to have attractive sons.
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The X chromosome is one of the biggest, with a large amount of genetic material.
Because we as men inherit our single X from our moms, we end up looking a bit more like mom (or our maternal-side uncles, rather) than like dad.
Women get an X from each parent, so they’re an exact 50-50 mixture.
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My girl sent me a nude about 20mins ago… And replied saying “oops wrong number”. I will admit it did get under my shit ,but should I even respond to such crap?
[CH: If you’re not trolling, the correct response is “bad lighting”.]
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I think it’s really simple: When a man has sex (especially if he gets the woman pregnant), his job is basically done and any further entanglement with this specific female is neither really necessary, nor, in many cases, desirable. On to the next one.
For a woman, sex is more of a beginning rather than an end, especially if pregnancy ensues. She knows, either instinctively or by (many) examples, that raising kids on your own is difficult – not to mention expensive – and that kids without a dad tend not to turn out so well.
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Some wit once remarked (Wilde, Mencken, Twain?) that if women had the same libido as men, bastard children would be running the streets in greater numbers than stray dogs.
I see a lot of “qualification” going on in this thread about exactly how to define “sex drive”, and a lot of quibbling about “yes, men want to fuck more often and masturbate more, but women want blah, blah, blah.
Yes, we know… EVERYBODY likes to fuck… DUH!
But for women, it’s far, far, FAR more attuned to equation factors of “mood”, “comfort”, “cycles”, “the right guy”, (put your favorite factor here), etc., etc., etc.
Again, DUH!
But to say that the (in general, all things being equal, la la la) distaff side has anything near an “equal” sex drive/libido/whatever is pure nonsense.
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Well, to be fair, I haven’t seen very many stray dogs lately. Bastard children on the other hand…
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It was said at a time when said dogs were more plentiful, I imagine.
You fairy.
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I used to be the faithful sexually frustrated husband and we all know how that goes. Now happily divorced, I have a LTR and discreetly cheat on the side from time to time. Sex is better with my LTR than it ever was with my then-wife. Everybody’s happy, and I do as I please, she puts up with it as long as it’s a don’t-ask-don’t-tell kinda thing.
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@ Will,
I understand your desire for science to validate opinions – and if we lived in world where those doing the scientific studies weren’t politically motivated to come to certain conclusions, I would agree with you. But given that we don’t, I find scientific studies rather a dubious measure for “the truth.” Heartiste, for example, gave us scientific evidence of a certain position… however, it would not be very difficult for me to dig up a different scientific study which contradicts his thesis… in other words, “science” has been reduced to the usefulness of the realm of opinion backed by extreme bias. Hey, if one department (women’s studies) is claiming that Gender is a Social Construct – and the University backs it up as “truth,” yet when I walk across the hall to take my Queer Theory class, I am told that, backed by scientific evidence, “gays were born that way,” what am I to believe of their studies’ reliability? The two positions are mutually exclusive of each-other – while at the same time the same institution (the university that does the peer review) tries to claim they are both truth, when they cannot possibly be. How many scientific studies does one need to put forth in order to make one’s case then?
But, there is evidence for what we are talking about – ie. “The Mating Dance.” I found this study years ago right here at Heartiste, about the mating behaviour of rats:
“According to Ogas and Gaddam, we can learn some important lessons about female sexual behaviour from observing rats in the laboratory.
They insist that if you put a male and female rat in close proximity to one another, the female will start to come on to the male, performing actions associated with sexual interest — running and then stopping to encourage the male to chase her.
But after a bit of kiss-chase, the female rat stands still, adopting a submissive stance until the male takes action. They also claim that almost every quality of dominant males — from the way they smell to the way they walk and their deep voice — triggers arousal in the female brain, while ‘weaker’ men, who are not taller, have higher voices or lower incomes, excite us less.
What they seem to be suggesting is that the cavemen were right all along and that what women really want is to be dragged by the hair, all the while feigning reluctance, by macho men waving clubs.”
The above paragraphs describes a typical mating dance, which follows an observable pattern: Women attract, men pursue, she turns away and feigns disinterest but only goes so far, then he pursues again, and she turns away again, until they have synchronized and co-ordinated themselves to mate with eachother. Part of this synchronization is manifested as “shit tests,” and as is often noted ’round these parts, you should get excited by shit-tests rather than be afraid of them, because it is an indication that her attraction for you is building, not waning. And she needs you to pass her shit tests in order for her desire to build enough to let you into her panties. It is actually the back and forth of the mating dance that builds her desire. Further, and this is very important, the female is the one who begins the dance by signalling she is available to be approached by a potential mate (IOI’s) – it does not happen the other way around:
Cary (1976) discovered that the woman, through eye contact, controlled the course of interaction with a male stranger, both in the laboratory and in singles’ bars. Perper (1985) gave a detailed description of courtship, stressing an escalation-response process in which women play a key role in escalation or deescalation. The steps in this process are approach, turn, first touch, and steady development of body synchronization.
Although these reports are clearly valuable, most researchers addressed courtship very generally, and some failed to recognize the importance of the female role in the courtship process .What was needed was a more complete ethogram of women’s nonverbal courtship signals. To compile such a catalog of flirting behavior exhibited by women involved in initial heterosexual interaction, more than 200 adults were observed (Moore, 1985) in field settings such as singles’ bars, restaurants, and parties.
Research has shown, therefore, that the cultural myth that the man is always the sexual aggressor, pressing himself on a reluctant woman, is incorrect. — Courtship Signaling and Adolescents: “Girls Just Wanna Have Fun”? Monica M. Moore, Ph.D.Department of behavioral and Social Sciences, Webster University
What is important to realize in all of this – in regard to female sex drive – is that it is the female that is in control of the encounter, rather than the male.
“Women chat happily, send sexually explicit signals and encourage the man’s attention, even if they have absolutely no interest in him. This gives a woman time to assess a man, say [Karl Grammer of the Ludwig Boltzmann Institute of Urban Ethology in Vienna, who studied 45 male-female pairs of strangers in their teens and early twenties]… Importantly, the women also seemed to control the encounter – what the women did had a direct effect on what the men did next. ‘You can predict male behaviour from female behaviour but not the other way around,’ says Grammer” – New Scientist Magazine (London), February 14, 2001
So… out of the two sexes, which is the one that usually has “two in the kitty?” The female is the one with orbiters floating around, waiting for their chance to spill their seed into her with bated breath. “Don Juan” is actually a flipping of the sexual script, with men doing to women what women do to men – thus, the PUA always sarges and keeps spinning plates, instead of being a chump who focuses on one single woman like a beta does. Women are constantly spinning plates – that’s what orbiters are. And, since we can see above that women control the entire encounter through various means, nobody becomes her orbiter unless she has chosen it through her own free will. An orbiter is basically someone who she has allowed to progress partially through the mating dance, but stopped or suspended before it made its conclusion. I’ve read before that there are something like 150 various rejections a man goes through with the average woman before she agrees to have sex with him. She does this verbally, or with body language, or with her eyes, or in hundreds of other subtle ways – but still, you can see the mating dance take place. An orbiter is someone who has been stopped at rejection 50 of 150, and is left suspended in time and space… but make no mistake, she chose to have that orbiter there, and if she has five orbiters, it is because she let all five go at least part way through the dance, which she completely controls.
If a woman has five orbiters waiting to fuck her if she breaks up with her current alpha-bang, can you really say that her sex drive is lesser than the men’s? Even if she feigns disinterest in sex with her alpha, think of the effort that has also gone into acquiring – and maintaining – a stable of orbiters who gleefully wait for her in reserve. Most guys (who don’t go out sarging/spinning plates) will never have such options. Ever notice that women are like monkeys that don’t let go of one branch until she’s gotten hold of another? Well… as soon as she switches branches, she starts having sex with the new guy. Women don’t usually go through periods of several months without sex when they change guys – they are usually screwing the new guy already before getting rid of the old one. Whether she pushes all of her orbiters or slaps the new alpha’s Russian hands and Roman fingers away, feigning disinterest, in no way seems to affect that as a constant steady drip for her narcissism, she rarely goes through a period of time in which there isn’t SOME man trying to fuck her. How much energy do you think she puts into creating that situation? And, if a woman ALWAYS has a sexual partner and constant access to sex, can you really say that a man who only gets laid once every six months is “hornier?” Who has sex more? The woman. She is steadily having sex until her sexual appeal disappears later in life. The majority of males who are not married only have sporadic sex.
[CH: Sex frequency and horniness overlap but they aren’t the same thing, obviously.]
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Heh. Free diving pearl divers and the people living on the dry earth both desire to breathe oxygen.
Air is like sex. It’s not important until you’re not getting any.
Can you say the person on dry earth “needs” air, or has a lesser desire for air, than the pearl diver?
At the very moment, sure, the diver needs air more than the person on the surface… but, remove the air from the surface, and we’ll find that both need air just as much. One simply thinks about it more, while the other assumes it is always available. Sex frequency and horniness will match at the moment sex is no longer available. Nobody is hornier than a cougar who is losing her air supply.
Btw, one of the most significant developments in human evolution is that women began ovulating covertly. This is truly something that separates us from most other living things, where the female only signals she needs sex when she is fertile.
If we were to pile all of women’s manipulations into one short breeding period when she is in heat, like almost all other living things, we would see women’s sex drive more clearly.
Also, keep in mind, things like high-heels are designed to make women’s legs and ass move like a primate in heat. And rouge and lipstick is meant to mimic primates signalling they are in estrus. So, in humans, not only do females ovulate covertly, but as a society, we also encourage them to give off – on a daily basis – signals that drive males into a mating frenzy. I certainly understand today, why back in the 1980’s when I was a teen, so many parents wouldn’t let their daughters wear make-up until they were 16.
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online dating first message “lol” almost 100% response rate. thanks to ya really
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@Heartiste: Here is a rebuttal of sorts, for the ROFL & LOOOL Dept.:
Quoth: “Women are almost always shorter than men. Now researchers argue that it is because the girls are getting less food and fewer opportunities to grow.
Around the world, women are on average shorter than men. Biologically, the evidence suggests that it should be the opposite, which is that women should be larger than males”
Argumentation: “Females can benefit from large fat reserves, and the planet’s biggest creature is not just a blue whale, but a blue whale female”
Source: bit.ly/NusC2h (Swedish so pass thru google translate)
If that’s true then Lindy should be like 10 meters high with all that blubber she could convert into bone mass. That, or they’re smoking the really strong stuff in Sweden.
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Female sex drives also cycle based on the menses, her age and the availability of sexual partners. At the moment I am young, fertile and with a man who I find to be amazing, so I’m perpetually horny. When I was a virgin, my sex-drive was entirely absent unless I was ovulating and even then it was more of a “memo” that I should be reproducing. I have a feeling that when I have my first child my sex-drive will drop again. Other elements that are known to affect both male and female sex-drives often hit women harder. Lifting weights makes you hornier? Expect a 120% increase for the male and a 300% increase for the female. Stress kills sex-drive? Expect a slight drop in sexual frequency for the male and complete death of desire for the female.
So a female with an active social life, in optimal health and who is regularly satisfied is at low risk of cheating maybe 15% of the time and at high risk of cheating maybe 3% of the time. All she has to do is ignore the 15% and bear out the 3%, upon which she can relax until it starts again. Even if she isn’t regularly satisfied, she may only be at low risk of cheating a quarter or half the time and the spikes don’t really increase as they’re more hormonal. A female’s natural urge to stay with and bear the children of a high-quality male can make or break her during the 3%, depending on how high-quality her partner is. Whereas a male with an active social life, in optimal health and who is regularly satisfied is at low risk of cheating 25% of the time and at high risk of cheating 10-20% of the time. Remove the regular sexual satisfaction and you have a guy who’s almost certainly going to snap eventually, continual low risk of cheating leading to him cheating when the spike arrives. He is bearing with mild arousal and interest at least a quarter of the time and his natural urge to mate with high-quality females ONLY pushes him towards more of them, rather than towards the one he has back home.
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That’s like a friggin’ AP Bio/SAT Math problem:
(37) A female with an active social life, in optimal health and who is regularly satisfied is at low risk of cheating maybe 15% of the time and at high risk of cheating maybe 3% of the time. She states that she has to do is ignore the 15% and bear out the 3%, upon which she can relax until it starts again. Even if she isn’t regularly satisfied, she may only be at low risk of cheating ________% or ________% the time and the spikes don’t really increase as they’re more hormonal.
a) 25,20
b) 30,25
c) 25,50
d) None of the above
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*shrug* I needed numbers to translate the mental charts to. At least I didn’t just make a few ASCII depictions of the charts instead.
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I got yer ASCII depiction right here, toots:
8=========D ~ ~ ~ ~ ( o ) ( o )
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That is pretty complicated but I don’t buy it. What I’ve seen is that women will cheat pretty much any time if their buttons are pushed the right way – which generally means following the typical PUA script. All this “women are picky and carefully chaste” narrative generally ignores the fact that even marginally desirable women can have their pick of men, any time, so they take it. It isn’t that they aren’t doing it or won’t do it, it’s just that they have the luxury of being somewhat selective, which creates the illusion of chastity. They then deny their behavior, even to themselves, which distorts the “scientific” data.
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Based on the language you have used, I shall assume your mind is made up and nothing I could say would sway your view at all. Regardless of what I say, you’ll either assume I’m lying or that something else is involved. No point.
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Not so at all… I’m only expressing my impressions from my own experience. I’m sure there are other viewpoints and plenty of contrary data points and I’m always interested in opposing but sincere ideas and input.
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Well, for starters your angle is a bit too absolute. Yes, the point about cheating women probably does hold true for the modern crop of Western teens-to-30-somethings, but they aren’t the world. For starters you have exceptions, such as myself. Then you have differing cultures within Western countries where sluttery is no longer approved of. And we haven’t even got to non-Western countries yet! So, that established, let’s observe the modern White Western woman.
First is the issue of polygamy, serial monogamy and polyamoury. Pretty much any woman who’s had more than one man before her husband/life-partner is itching for someone else at some point. The cause is twofold: 1, women who have had more than one or two men are often naturally sluttier anyway, skewing the figures; 2, due to the functions of oxytocin, having sex within a series of LTRs can devalue sex for the woman, the oxytocin bond ceases to mean anything. However, in a woman who’s only had one or two sexual partners her entire life, the oxytocin bond between her and her husband is immense. To such a point where most virgin-brides and girls who married their first guy (or at least the genuine ones I’ve met) seem almost incapable of finding other men sexually attractive. Good looking? Yes. But when approached by another male, they often feel the same repulsion teenage girls feel for their creepy uncle. This is intensified by the length of the relationship. Oxytocin is, interestingly, released by kissing, child-bearing and breastfeeding as well, implying its function is actually to keep women with the father of their first child. This would also mean that virgins who’ve dated a lot and single mothers are also less capable of commitment than women who’ve been more careful.
Next, you have the problem of selection. Often, the most successful PUAs:
1: Look for girls at night, in bars and other similar places. This is where women of looser morals tend to congregate, as they KNOW this is where they have access to sex. Try the same thing in a Christian bar or a British pub and you’ll probably get closer to the day-rate, if not less.
2: Are more attracted to the sluttier women anyway. People who have less success with game are often starting by aiming too high. If they like the neat, feminine, modest look, chances are their success rates are lower than those of a guy who likes miniskirts, long nails and high heels.
3: Are already higher-ranking. Applying game to a guy like that is basically taking a pre-alpha and making him an alpha. Combine that with points one and two and you have a lot of women of looser morals, out looking for sex, who are being approached by the guy of their dreams.
All this ends up skewing the perspective of PUAs, who get the impression they could have ‘anyone’ if they tried hard enough, when, in reality, certain women are more chaste than that.
Finally you have the investment argument. Women are biologically designed to want it all: dominant, attractive, resource-rich male who is of a similar mind. This is so as to guarantee a father who will give good genes, look after and protect his family and agree with her child-rearing methods. (This would have been easier in an earlier society, where everyone shared the same culture, threats from within the tribe were low, child-rearing was viewed in a positive light and camaraderie would inhibit mate-stealing practices.) When a woman finds a suitable mate, she will bond to him quite strongly (even moreso if he’s her first). In a natural setting, this woman would now provide for him, converse with him and give him free rein to show how willing she is to adapt to his lifestyle in order to possess him. This, in turn, shows the man that she is a good woman worth having children with. In a society where pair-bonding is the norm, having children out of wedlock, with numerous potential fathers, most of whom are young, virile and caddish would be a near-certain death for the children. Limited resources, a burden on the rest of the tribe (who are all raising their own children) and a careless, sluttish mother does not a good hunter or housewife make. Therefore, it’s in a woman’s biological interest to get the best man she has access to, bond to him and get him to bond to her and guarantee good paternity and a steady supply of resources. Whilst it no longer applies in modern society, the basic drive is still present in most women. (Of course, the same argument can be used to point out that, in tribes where everyone knows everyone, ‘beta chumps’ are less likely to be created, which would also drive women to chastity.)
There are more things I could go into, but it would basically be another tirade against how feminism has ruined modern women’s views of sex, men and marriage and, to be honest, Sunshine Mary does a far better job of that than I ever could. If you’re interested, just have a bit of a read through the ‘feminism’ tag on her blog.
Anyhow, the conclusion is basically that some women (such as myself) are programmed for monogamy: zero sexual attraction to other males, excessively careful about picking our first sexual partner regardless of how often we’re approached, who eventually bond to a male, settle with him, lose our virginity and make use of the oxytocin bond to stay with him for as long as we can. There are some women that are programmed for sluttery: intense attraction to everything about the male body, very little shyness, sexually initiate themselves whilst they’re young, even without encouragement from boys and are not happy unless they have access to a variety of high-quality males, even if this means they and their children become a burden on society or their parents. And most of the women in-between can be swayed one way or another by society. As Free Northerner pointed out, even in today’s society a third of women have had one or no sexual partners before marriage. Whilst you could say they’re lying, you have five issues to contend with:
1: If you use the same data, most of these women have longer, more stable, more satisfying marriages and a happier sex-life. If the difference were between liars and non-liars, this correlation would be weaker.
2: You get a similar figure in anonymous studies as well as in studies where individuals are observed.
3: These women have happier sex-lives (linked back to oxytocin, likely).
4: Modern society prizes women who are sluts. The incentive to lie about virginity and chastity is all but gone in most communities. The incentive to lie under anonymity is nil.
5: I, as a female, know enough young women to say there IS a clear line between whores and madonnas.
But let’s knock them down to a quarter or a fifth, to account for a number of liars. That means we’re saying that even under the constant feminazi pressures 20-33.3% of women are STILL acting in a chaste manner. And no, not all of them are disgusting slops. I was one of them, as were many of those I chose to associate with before meeting my fiance. Birds of a feather and all that. In fact, some of the more disgusting women tend to be the greater whores, but that’s more a combination of validational sex and low chances of getting a suitable male to settle with them.
I believe that, were we in a more moral society, chances are that the line between whores and madonnas would become even clearer, with a 50-70% (let’s say 60% for simplicity) madonna rate, a 10-20% whore rate and a 20-30% ‘not so clear’ rate.
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PS: Apologies for the sheer length of it.
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All very thoughtful, but, nope. Your ideas are skewed by your own attitude and experience. Most of the virtuous virginal child brides I knew begged me to have sleazy affairs with them a few years later, saying they were bored silly and insanely horny. I didn’t hit it but imagine someone did. The only thing I know of that has any chance of keeping most women faithful is fear, and that has been eliminated in our culture. (And replaced with a system of rewarding female infidelity…)
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I’ll have to politely disagree and take the stance it’s a cultural thing, as my experiences don’t tie-in with that at all apart from Southern suburban England, which is basically a hotbed for all the more extreme levels of Western depravity.
I’ll bear in mind that my experiences may have skewed my views, but please consider that the West is the greatest aberration to human nature and your views are likely equally skewed by our sick society.
PS: SunshineMary’s take on the cycles of promiscuity and monogamy as sexual strategies is also an interesting explanation. Called “why do modern women try to use sex to secure commitment from men”.
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My chick told me that when I bring other chicks upstairs it makes her want to touch herself and she wonders what we are doing
hamster on overdrive
that was this past weekend when we got drunk as fuck she allowed that to slip out
She said I don’t know why it makes me so hot maybe because you are honest about it
maybe that and I broke a pelvis fuckin before and now a support beam for the house
what can ya do he he he
cheaper to replace than I thought although wood cheap as fuck hmm
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she also said it makes her want to walk upstairs with a gun and point it at the chick and say yea suck that dick bitch deeper bitch
and she want to manhandle the other chick on my dick
then she was calllin other chicks after talkin bout it to come over and lick my balls while she rode me
it all just came pourin out that night he he he
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see that’s why you don’t do the lesbian thing get them hetro dreams going where its all about YOU
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Geez, Louise… sounds like a co-directed Russ Meyer/Quentin Tarantino production.
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naa holywood would def be trying to fuck up the one cock rule lolzzzzzz
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Touche’
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OT.
A Game element leaks out, of all places, a Yahoo! message board comment:
This was regarding an article that said, “Here’s a wakeup call for you: Women spend an average of 55 minutes getting ready every morning — frittering away the equivalent of 6.4 hours a week, or 335 hours a year, on looks alone, a new survey finds. ”
There is a good way to reduce these numbers. Men, tell your woman that she is pretty. I once dated a guy who told me on a regular basis how pretty I was, how much he loved my eyes, how I was the smartest girl he had ever dated, ect. Who cares if he didn’t mean all of it, it made me feel good. I started wearing a little less makeup and found simpler ways to do my hair just so I could get over to his house early before work. He still said the same things. Sadly the whole thing started to go downhill after his daughter called me mom. Now I’m married to a man who never tells me I’m pretty, smart, ect. I put on loads of makeup and wear revealing clothing around him all the time just to get his attention with no success. I have decided to use up my makeup and only replace the ones I really care for. Maybe he will notice when I’m no longer trying to dress like the playboy playmates he claims he wants.
So, the one beta guy tells her how hot/smart/etc. she is all the time. The result? She turns frumpy and obviously is no longer with him.
She is now married to a man who never tells her such things. The result? She puts on “loads of make up and wear revealing clothing around him all the time just to get his attention” and dresses “like the playboy playmates he claims he wants”.
LINK: http://shine.yahoo.com/shine-beauty/335-hours-a-year-primping–here-s-how-to-speed-up-your-morning-ritual-201727525.html
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Women will always be viewed more positively then men by the general public, and as the fairer sex. The only way to change that is for more men to have strict standards when dating, and for men to get as good at cheating as women are. Women cheat almost just as much as men, they’re just better at hiding it because of the slut stigma of a cheating girlfriend or wife.
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Women are better at cheating because they tend to control the time and place where the cheating takes place.
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guys go to work on a schedule
too easy
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CH, will you be monitoring this for YKW/Cathedral lies?
http://www.nbc.com/about-a-boy?cid=Display%3ASS%7CAbout%20a%20Boy%7Cmdssn2014%7Cytb%7Csite%7Csite&hcoref=Display%3ASS&WT_srch=SS%3Aytb
I don’t have time to watch TV and it would just piss me off, but since you can stand reading Jizzibel, et al. I figure you might get material and insight from this.
In short, it’s a new TV show and the spot they were showing for it during the Olympics show the older guy (brother or uncle or something who is a bachelor raising a boy alone for some reason) who takes care of the little boy advising him:
“Timmy, you are a wonderful, sensitive, smart, sweet, caring boy. Unfortunately, those qualities *repel* women. They like bad boys.”
So we see realtalk truth at least THERE. Will the rest of the show be accurate, or will it be blue pill?
I’m curious.
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There’s no realtalk there. It’s a common trope — dude thinks that women just like bad boys blah blah blah but THEN HE FINDS THAT ONE SPECIAL ONE WOOOOOOOOOW.
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Indeed, women are not more moral than men. All philosophical debating of morality has been done by men. Women don’t debate it, they “just know what you’re supposed to do”, which incidentally almost always fits the Political Correctness of their time and place.
Honor is an entirely manly concept, and honor means to do things without calculating how they benefit you or those close to you. Women despise honor because, for example, it makes a man fight an enemy even though it brings on risk for him and their relationship. “Just let it be!”
But wait – what about women giving money to charity for children in far-off lands? They do that only when Political Correctness has declared it popular. It is something to brag about, something that makes them feel part of the herd. Their charity is based on selfishness, but they make themselves think it isn’t so. If it was shameful and brought on risk, they wouldn’t do it.
The second reason they give money to other peoples, so those peoples can have even more children, is that they have been shown a picture of a child staring at them from the TV screen. Always the cutest child the propagandists could find, and almost always female. The women’s brains erronously project feelings onto the TV screen which they are built to reserve for the children close to them.
Their biology reacts as if it would be their own child, pretending that there aren’t other parents standing out of view of the TV camera, grinning at the thought of the money they receive from the film crew. (“Finally that worthless female child paid off!”) The human species doesn’t have brains that can deal accurately with television.
In short, women’s “morality” is about selfishness and brains that aren’t wired to handle visual propaganda well. Meanwhile they scoff at men’s concept of honor, which is true unselfishness, because they are told to scoff at it (as long as the men are Western) and try to stop it. Alas, such is the story about morality these days.
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“is that they have been shown a picture of a child staring at them from the TV screen”
What exactly do you think honor is? Just masturbation of the ego over feeling morally superior when you make decisions that aren’t self-serving.
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OT: Man, do these poor guys need them some Heartiste Game wisdom: http://thechive.com/2014/02/25/wow-your-new-girlfriend-looks-totally-not-fake-34-photos/
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Your “muh dik” chanting is as tiresome as its source.
Proud that you’re a no-class Jody who lives by his little head?
Yup… sounds like the usual n166er-babble.
Avaunt, impious fool.
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Class and piety are illusions. Feelings and reproductive outcomes are realities.
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Feelings are indeed important to you half-men nowadays, just like the chicks you claim to game.
Reproductive outcomes, you bloated gloating sophomore? Where are your well-raised sons and daughters?
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dude you try way too hard
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yeah, dude. way too hard. I mean, we all should just chill and be satisfied with the cards we’re dealt in life.
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The rallying cry of jealous beta humans is “you try too hard.” As if organisms with the most reproductive options are “just born that way,” and don’t work or fight for their success. Such nonsense.
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You disingenuous azzhole…
You yourself pulled the “try-hard” card on me the other day in reference to my jests and barbs… which, for the record, flow easily and quite naturally.
But you’re right about the “just jealous” litany in that regard… not having any sort of style or wit in your own writing, you felt the sting of my rapier and lamely threw out the try-hard card.
It’s always amusing how you pseudo-red pillers revert to Cathedral shaming litany and wind up telling on yourselves.
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No, you were shat on because you implored men to settle for lesser women for long term relationships. If you had said differently I would have supported you.
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Monkeys throwing their feces is a form of being “shat on”, I suppose.
Which is the reason they subsequently get their beat downs, as did you.
On a side note, if it was Scray, well… the point remains the same.
And as you rightly noted, in meat world, most of you look the same, and online y’all muh-dikkers sound the same. lozozlzozolzlzozl
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As far as that “settling” goes, if you don’t see the wisdom of picking a sweet 8 for an LTR over a bitchy 9 or 10, then you stay on your planet, I’ll stay on terra firma.
Get back to me in a decade or so when you have some experience.
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Ya, Greg I’m pretty sure that was me who called you a try-hard for your jeers and blurbs.
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Y’all look alike, even online.
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Also, another point I’m noticing —- while being chased is fun, I actually prefer to chase and lead the interaction. I’d prefer her to remain idle and a nothing, ready to be activated at my command, than her to be hounding me/txting me/whatever.
I actually want her to lack accountability. I want her to be able to say, ‘before I knew it…’
Same is true for sex. I actually have a harder time getting into it when the girl initiates. I thought I enjoyed that but I don’t.
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@ anonymous,
For lack of better terms: there’s a difference between bullshit research/science and actually biochemically proven science. Or the difference between political research and biochemical and evulionary/biology research. I’m talking about the biochemical standpoint. However, your comments literally could not be more on point with the mindset of females. It’s logical, makes sense and is basically another post for CH in my mind.
Anyways, I’ve also come to this conclusion about the age 25 and under 7.5-8+ girls with options: because females are the gatekeepers of piv sex you literally don’t have control over keeping these girls in love and chasing you and wanting to raise your kids etc. This is because they are fucking purely alpha cads for the most part or they subconsciously are desiring this and biologically lean towards this. After 25 they begin to acknowledge and feel the wall and realize the next best thing for THEMSELVES (selfish by nature) is to find an alpha with enough beta or a beta with enough alpha in him to marry and chase and love for as long as possible to raise the kids. This all makes sense if you keep in mind our biological and nature to be selfish.
BUT where I get confused again is this: you hear a lot about the younger best girls getting snatched up early (before 25). How is this possible that they are getting snatched up if alphas don’t agree to be exclusive. If my thinking above is true then that’s a short time frame of women 25-30 (maybe) to get to raise your kids. Or my thinking above is wrong? I also draw a conclusion that if you have a fling with a girl (not exclusive, so alpha) and the girl doesn’t initiate or “female court” you (whatever that is?) then you should next her because you will continue to initiate and thus chase her which isn’t how we biologically work and will end with disaster. hmmm..
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When I was young (under 25), and more alpha, the most desirable girls dumped me and settled down with guys who were very,very beta. This phenomenon is not well described or explained here, or elsewhere on the internet. (To be honest… “dumped” is not the exact right term. All of them would have left the betas at the altar had I asked them to… but I told them “no promises and no regrets” and they all said “we’re going for the sure thing now”, and I wished them well.) They were the good ones – after 25, the pickings were slim.
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Men cheat more than women because even now in the era of YugoGrrlPower, men’s preferred form of promiscuity is parallel while women’s preferred form is serial. Men want a harem to rotate through, women want to trade up.
Hypergamy drives women to always look for the next Mr. Big, the better man than the one she has now. Like a monkey swinging through the trees, she does not let go of the branch she has until her hand is on the next branch that she wants. This is why cheating by a woman in an LTR means the LTR is dead, dead, dead; she’s got her little hand on the next branch in the tree or rung higher in the ladder.
This what the series of “boyfriends” in a young woman’s life really is; it’s her ladder-climbing hypergamy at work. She gets rid of her virginity with Boy 1, then some time later sees he’s not all that after all & moves on to Boy 2, and in time to Boy 3. Quantitatively it is no different than the Venusian artist who spins 3 plates at once, but of course the feminists and the White Knighting tradcons clutch their pearls, point and shriek at the one while nodding approval to the other.
If nothing else, the fact that 60% or more of divorces are filed by women gives the lie to the notion that women are naturally monogamous – they are not, they just prefer to do their promiscuity, and their cheating, differently from men.
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Will said: “BUT where I get confused again is this: you hear a lot about the younger best girls getting snatched up early (before 25). How is this possible that they are getting snatched up if alphas don’t agree to be exclusive. If my thinking above is true then that’s a short time frame of women 25-30 (maybe) to get to raise your kids. Or my thinking above is wrong? I also draw a conclusion that if you have a fling with a girl (not exclusive, so alpha) and the girl doesn’t initiate or “female court” you (whatever that is?) then you should next her because you will continue to initiate and thus chase her which isn’t how we biologically work and will end with disaster. hmmm..”
Weininger referred to this as well in Sex and Character, in the section about “Motherhood and Prostitution.”
In there, he refers to two philosophical women: The Absolute Mother and The Absolute Prostitute. They are absolute because no woman truly represents either principle, but instead have elements of both inside of them – some women have more of the one than the other, which affects their general disposition.
The Absolute Mother is purely a mother, and would marry any man who is suitable for her purposes in being a mother – he says, would marry any man of whom her family and friends approve of, I think.
These are the girls that get snatched up early and stay as mothers. However, this is hardly a triumph for the man, as he is a mere bit-player of little significance. He is merely a tool to facilitate her motherhood – who he is as a person is not of any importance aside from his suitability for the task. Great!
The prostitute is the one that goes for guys as people, and also harms and abuses them when she hypergamously moves on to the next guy. She is not a good mother, but is the one who is sexually exciting to most men.
Anyway, the link is up there – it’s worth the read.
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@ anonymous and anonymous reader,
both your comments are right and again logical/make sense, so thanks for attempting to clear this extremely fuzzy subject up. Anonymous, that link you posted is very over-the-top with analysis–wow. Some of it makes sense but it sometimes goes down weird routes that are hard to follow. Anyways, I’ve never been much of a “marriage hater” but slowly moving toward that. It makes a whole lot of sense that BETA MALES created marriage….in a society so long ago females did nothing really (rule them as creators out) and beta males maybe needed a way to tie down girls because they werent getting as many as the alphas were. Once again marriage is for chumps and maybe even avoid it at all costs…Unless you’ve gamed a hot girl and have her wrapped around your finger and figured out? The only reason why I don’t want to be against marriage is because I think having that loving relationship/bond between two people is a fulfilling thing and something that defines life….is that where my mindset is wrong? Should I destroy that thought or can that happen, you just have to learn it….
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also CH or anonymous I’d like to see what you have to say about my situation:
I am fucking this girl who is younger than me and has SHIT tons of options (i’d rate her an 8.5, but is around guys and parties frequently). We have the weirdest relationship, we talk probably 4 times a month and fuck 2-3 different occasions (she’ll spend the night) a month. So very very spread out. She has never once denied to hangout really in the 8 months and I’m pretty sure she sees me as alpha…The only thing is I pretty much alwayssss initiate the hanging out but it makes me feel like i’m chasing her. is this a bad path to go down? how do i make her initiate hang outs more? best case scenario is she likes the fact that an alpha is wanting to hang out with her and thus waits for the attention (as in the example anonymous had–guy chases, girl catches..etc). What would you do with this situation b/c it’s hard to stay aloof
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CH might have to confirm, but I think the reason she isn’t chasing you is because she doesn’t see you as alpha enough and as having higher value than her. Either this or she’s just a sociopath using you for sex. If the latter is the case, just enjoy and use your time to get other girls?
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1. drop the alpha sperg deflection talk
2. stay aloof because you’re getting free pussy. for free
3. if she wanted to chase you more, she would
4. stop letting her spend the night
5. you’re welcome
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How to avoid cheating if in monogamous relationship? I know it is not a popular situation around these parts, being in LTR, but how does one avoid cheating?
Any tips?
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She has taken me out once or twice compared to me taking her out about half the times we fuck. I honestly don’t think it’s an alpha issue it’s very bizarre though. I’m not complaining, but I just don’t want it to end and I feel like it will if I keep doing the initiating to hang out. BUT it has gone on for about eight months now. so weird. I’m expecting it to flip flop in her mind and the that woman 180 that we all have seen. dgaf, im nexting this chick. but this applies to a lot of the hot high quality girls out there so it’s valid.
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@ Will
Sounds like she is keeping you as “dick in reserve.”
The once every two weeks or so sounds like the perfect set-up, though. That is the optimal length of time to maintain a “bed-buddy.” – Twice a month. Once every two weeks. Make your time together valuable, then disappear for two weeks. Always replenish the supply with new girls – it will even keep the old girls around longer. Beware if she wants to see you more often.
Dick in reserve though, means she is using YOU for sex. In other words, she needs a guy to get off on, but doesn’t think you are high value enough to introduce to her friends.
Go for kinky. Use her and abuse her… cause that’s what she’s gonna do to you as soon as she finds her “main dick.” Blow her mind… make her a chick who facebooks you in five years, wondering whatever happened… then you have future options…
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@ anonymous:
I could for sure see that being where I’m at ha. The only thing is this, I have met a couple of her best friends. And when she took me out it was tickets to a game so she seemed to have some interest in pursuing me… My whole point is I guess I would expect her to be more initiating of texts and hanging out? She brought that up with me saying that I disappear a lot and “isn’t it the guy who initiates?” I took them as shit tests and passed them, but is it possible that I can be safe or in an alpha position while initiating hanging out so much?
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