There were a lot of funny suggestions from commenters in this post about how to reply to a playette who “accidentally” texts you a nude of herself ostensibly meant for another man.
COTW winner has to go to WG.
“Hey, it looks like you have a small lump in your right tit.”
Now that is just stone cold clinical alpha detachment.
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COTW Runner up is… wait for it… anon!
anon funnies,
How ’bout texting her back a few hours later saying it’s only pulling a 4/10 on hotornot.com?
I laughed. She’ll cry. And all will be right in the universe.
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COTW consolation prizes go to michaelaurelius,
“Work on ur abs”
and to commenter Mom’s Proud,
“Your mom’s nipples are bigger”
😆 CH readers are a class act.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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Don’t leave out the comment moderators at CH. They are a class act too. 🙂
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CH has unpaid interns?
Salon banned me for violating their policy against dry wit. So I changed my handle to “Emahray Trolle” and was thoughtfully contributing to their online discussions and when their interns discovered the ruse and banned me again.
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I felt like this was a really profound comment, from corvinus:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/the-4-most-desired-people-in-new-york/#comment-535162
‘I wouldn’t call it “reverse social proof” — more like a group of girls ascertaining how much beta behavior is in a guy, and matching him up with the appropriate girl. If there’s very little in the way of betatude, they agree he’s an alpha and let the hottest one go for him. But if he turns out to be more beta than expected, the hottest one turns off and the plainer ones go for him. If he’s quite the herb, he’d be getting the most interest from the 5s and 6s in the group while the 7s and 8s cold shoulder him…’
It got me to thinking all sorts of Darwinian and Lamarckian thoughts about what might be transpiring amongst a group of females at a social function.
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Just picked up the number of an 8 in the middle of a class — other times, she’s with her clucking hen group, so I got her when she was a sitting duck. This group of women is unrelated to the previous one, in a completely different circle. Let’s see if the same deal.
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If she is Miss America, you could blackmail her.
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Pahleeez,
what girl under 30 doesn’t have a pic floating around of herself with a dick in her mouth?
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Cheers!
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FTW: Are your right and left breasts symmetrical?
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Rape is the winning comment.
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I love the runner up one the best. Not too mean, but gives enough unsurity as to whether actually did that or not. And if the lass starts getting super bitchy trying to get ya to prove it, you can always go and then put it up and make it true afterwards lol
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This.
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Playettes are a joke, tend to have giant egos that they will seek another man to help assuage, if violated.
As breathtakingly awesome all of these responses are, a “playette” (emphasis on the quotes) will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to make you look the fool.
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One of these responses thus would give you more pride than pussy benefit, and if I’m in a bad mood I’ll opt for one of these, but generally I prefer radio silence.
In the battle of the sexes it’s very tempting to one-up these type of women (they’re asking for it, true), but most of the “damage” you THINK you’re doing unphazes her, because this girl is *already* damaged!
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Right.
If you are sane yourself, then don’t waste too much time trying to understand the insane.
They aren’t like you.
And to really grok them – to “walk in their shoes”, as they say – you’d have to fundamentally transform yourself and, well, go insane.
Just like them.
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The children’s story, “Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby” had a thing or two to say about sleeping with dogs and waking up with fleas.
Or whatever.
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Slightly OT, but just a reminder…
There are places where the world is still right side up. Crimea, namely.
Here is an “average” local girl coming out to flirt with a dude packing a PKP LMG. This is what reality should look like in every Euro descended nation.
http://imgur.com/S4xy4i5
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Ha, nice, I guess there is still some sanity left out there.
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Could be Russian propaganda, but we should be supporting them regardless
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You know that the Russian Orthodox people who took over Kiev are heavily anti-Jew, but the Russians are much closer to neutral in the matter, right?
That said, I agree with you. My understanding is that Khrushchev, having come from Ukraine, made a gift of Crimea to Ukraine while he was Secretary General and had the power to do it. There’s no good reason for Russian-speaking Crimea to be in Ukraine rather than Russia.
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Sorry, Ukranian Orthodox. But I suspect that church and Russian Orthodox are not too far apart.
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That said, I agree with you. My understanding is that Khrushchev, having come from Ukraine, made a gift of Crimea to Ukraine while he was Secretary General and had the power to do it. There’s no good reason for Russian-speaking Crimea to be in Ukraine rather than Russia.
That’s pretty much it.
However, the libtards in the EU and US will be crapping their pants full because the last nation to actually go through with irredentism was Nahtzee Germany.
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Speaking of that, I have noticed that there are more personal-story stories and pictures of attractive women and handsome men involved in the wars now. There was an Iraqi girl (supposedly – could be true, who knows) who had a blog where she reported on the violence she saw on a daily basis, critical of the U.S. invasion. In the Syrian war there was also a blog by an attractive girl, an Alawite living by the cost in a well-to-do Westernized family, who reported on the rebels’ attacks on Alawites. Maybe the blog is still running.
Then there was a photo of a hunk-looking guy among the rebels that a lot of newspapers posted online, his rifle in a casual grip while looking straight into the camera.
In Egypt, the leftists made sure to post pictures of attractive young women in their demonstrations – both when they were teaming up with the Muslim Brotherhood against the dictatorship, and later when they had lost the elections and teamed up with the military to give them a “people’s will” excuse to overthrow democracy.
In Russia, Western media have made heroes of the sick, hateful left-wing extremist group falsely calling itself a “band”, Pussy Riot, a outgrowth of the Voina (War) communist group that vandalizes public buildings and attacks people. That’s a poor choice though since those “women” are not exactly camera material.
There are more examples. Who will take the lead in the Ukraine thing? The ones who overthrew democracy (John Kerry’s “fighters for democracy”), or the ones who support the elected government? Show some attractive women demonstrating and men around the world will eat it up. Give one of them a name and broadcast her precious hopes and dreams about Freedom and Love and Opportunity. Statistics and truths are boring. Sexy pictures are fun. You want to present yourself as the hip, modern, sexy side that gets all the young and attractive women, while the other side is full of boring, middle-aged men.
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“Luke at myee vyit byig gahn.” Ignores girl. Alpha.
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And the guy, like most Russian men, has those weird eyes. What’s up with that? Kind of an Asiatic slant.
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Arbiter—> Arbitrary. He is as white as they come, she is tall, thin, blonde, wearing boots with pinpoint heels.
This is NOT propaganda, it has been the scene all across Crimea where white people realize that Slavs > Europeans.
Hot thin white women baking cookies, making food, and taking pics with Russian soldiers.
I told you niggas here before. Europa is LOST. The States are lost. The JEW infiltration is too deep. So sooner than I imagined, the Slavs are calling the West onto the carpet. Good for them for bringing the timeline forward.
Ukraine has a binary option right now— EU backed Jew Bankers who will DEFINITELY bring them as a #1 partner into the EU, OR— Russian backed Slavs who, in the past, have NOT been kind to Ukranians, but realize the existencial crisis all whites face whether slav or euro. Which is—- reject the race replacement of the dying West or embrace it for 30 pieces of silver.
To me…. the choice is VERY fucking clear.
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Aww, “arbitrary”, what a clever slur, don’t you think?
I know that Slavs are Europeans, why wouldn’t I? I also know that a whole lot of Russians have weird-looking eyes. And weird-looking faces overall, with parrot-like noses on the women and perpetual sneers. I could show tons of pictures to demonstrate that, but why bother.
“The Slavs are calling the West onto the carpet” – No. If the Western economy goes down, the East European one does too. And Slavs are not united, no matter what your dreams about a heroic heritage. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldavia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnian Muslims, Bosnian Croats, Bosnian Serbs, Serbia, Albania, Macedonia, Georgia – just a few examples of Slavs who have had beef with other Slavs and didn’t want to live with them. Which is normal, it’s the same in every region in the world.
Why talk to me about Ukrainian politics as if I had said something about that? Are you one of those who can’t view a statement for what it is, but has to fit it into the narrative that is already in your head? If I note that many Russians have slanted eyes – I must be against Russia! I must be for the coup! Etc. Even though I never mentioned that. No, I know exactly what kind of people have funded the “color revolutions”, I have read up on that more than almost anyone.
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You forgot GBFMs:
Her: “wrong number lol”
You: “right number would be 34D”
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ouchie
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I’d like to submit a personal ad
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Name: Maya
Age: 29
Looking for: LTR, friendship
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please understand that I could not attach a photograph or contact information. if you are interested please reply in a comment below.
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Whorefinder should be available for an extreme STR.
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Bing me the pocorn, woman!
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Pocorn is like popcorn, except you’re to po’ for oil and heat. And a pan. So it’s really just corn.
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Is somebody in need of my services?
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Was that the bat signal? Or rather, did someone sound the rape whistle?
Who was that masked man
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> “Looking for: LTR, friendship”
How about looking for a man to make babies with?
At 29, you don’t have enough time left to waste on any further LONG Term Relationships which don’t result in you pushing little human beings out of your birth canal.
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off topic but i dont have the patience to wait for a ltr strategy/amog post.
i kinda blew it last night after the girl im seeing got off work. She has a male coworker there who is constantly trying to tool me. He is in a relationship with one of the other chicks who works there (coffeehouse), so he poses no “obvious” threat. Though im well versed in the ways of women. He just goes out of his way to try and dominate me in front of my chick. Came and interrupted her and i having a private moment on one of the couches, makes little shitty comments, generally just tries to dominate me. Ive hated this guy for months, even prior to meeting this girl (who i live with atm). Anyways, ive sensed her attraction to him..my gut is very attuned to this sort of thing. And while she doesn’t touch him or defend his behavior or anything, she definitely plays along when he’s teasing her. She constantly complains about how they fight alot at work and hes an asshole to her (which of course i properly decode with red pill awareness)…and right on cue she lights up and laughs and smiles when shes around him. For what its worth i told her to shut the fuck up about him and that im not her therapist.
I have the humility to know that he’s def an alpha male…gregarious, loud and just sucks you into his frame. Not common to meet one like this for me, but i handle it with stoicism and generally acting as unphazed as possible. Im actually pretty embarassed that im so affected by this, i rarely feel threatened by any dude. honestly.
Yesterday though she was working with him (every saturday) and he was trying to tool me relentlessly. Even going so far as to ask my girl “whats wrong with him? hes being so quiet”. And generally just tooling me. There was one moment where she looked at me while he was making some sort of wisecrack as i walked to the bathroom, and i felt like such a fucking bitch. I knew she could tell he was rattling me. And i eventually snapped when i picked her up and told her i was done and im moving out of the apartment. And in the moment i meant it…and she was sobbing hysterically and wouldnt leave my car. She was apologizing profusely, begging me to give her another chance…yada yada. Says she wont even acknowledge him, didnt understand the situation. You get the idea. and eventually i just fucking gave up and went back to the place with her. Im not over it, but i just dont know where the fuck else to turn to im embarassed to bring up this shit with friends or family. Im not proud that i lost my cool and vented my hatred for this guy, because i was fully aware that i was lowering my value. but its been weeks of me trying to suppress it and i fucking snapped, and wanted out of the situation. I dont have the heart for manipulations and subtle game playing. Where am i fucking up, and while i dont want a confrontation with him….what do you think is wise to do?
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“And i eventually snapped when i picked her up and told her i was done and im moving out of the apartment… and eventually i just fucking gave up and went back to the place with her.”
That’s your problem, right there. You made your call but you didn’t stick to your guns. And for what? A wet whole the size of a quarter?
From what I’m reading, she’s the one putting a roof over your head. Fuck that shit! You’re a man of worth, not a fuckin’ squatter. You need your own place, yesterday. In your heart, you know that you don’t actually need her for anything, so get the fuck outta there pronto.
And why the fuck are you hanging out at her workplace, anyway? Find some work and stack your paper. Bitches, they come and go, but compounding interest always grows.
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“From what I’m reading, she’s the one putting a roof over your head. Fuck that shit! You’re a man of worth, not a fuckin’ squatter. You need your own place, yesterday. In your heart, you know that you don’t actually need her for anything, so get the fuck outta there pronto.”
thanks brother. i agree…this shit is ridiculous and unhealthy. i needed the reassurance man, im gonna bounce out. appreciate it.
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Handle him with grace under pressure. True competitors treat others with dignity. Force him to up his manners or come across as a crude asshole. Chicks dig jerks but not bores with lacking social skills. Be the gentleman.
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“It is better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.”
-Abraham Lincoln
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i don’t know if you have the balls to try something like this, but something this extreme is probably your only hope at this point….
Next time he is AMOGing you and is being pretty obvious about it and there is more than 1 witness (besides your girlfriend), stop, look annoyed/exasperated. The loudly announce “look, Greg, since I’m straight it took awhile for me to figure this out, but I really wish you’d stop trying to get into my pants. Seriously man, can you try your bisexual fantasies on some other man? It’s really starting to creep me out here!”.
Immediately exit stage left, don’t return for at least a week. Although I have to ask why you’re hanging around your GF’s place of work to begin with, makes you look like a loser….
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Nah, too serious. Turn to the girl with a smirk and say “betcha this asshole will try to fuck me before he tries you”. If he starts complaining, follow up with “not that there’s anything wrong with that, buddy”. Whenever he starts up again, make kissing noises, you might vary with stuff like “oh yeah Brad, that’s a normal size dick right there” or “mmm yeah, wiggle those hips Brad”. If he gets in a good one, “you don’t have to try so hard, Brad, have some trust in yourself”. Next time you see him, “wow Brad, you look exhausted, you okay man?”. Keep smiling.
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I think you did fine given the circumstances. Aren’t you better off than before? For once you let the real you come through rather than being nice, and that. is. alpha.
Either the chick will lose respect for you or not, but it wasn’t going well anyway, and you had no defense against the amog. You couldn’t fool her.
Are you fucking her? Will the fucking increase or not? Even if you do make good on your plan and move out, what’s wrong with that? You obviously didn’t have the status with her to withstand the amog as it was, so things can only go up.
And if you lose her, you were on a dead end anyway so you should meet new pussy.
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In my opinion, alpha doesn’t mean you win every confrontation. Very few guys can do that. Nobody.
Even Putin I suppose. He has had his moments of being embarrassed. He was relentlessly amog’ed when he was a party functionary earlier in his career. The pictures were posted to prove it.
I think all a man has to do (and pretty much, all he can do) to be alpha is to be himself. It’s always enough, if not for this chick another one, but usually this one. Being yourself means being a man. Letting the man come through. Learning to live that man.
Latent sadist was shocked by what that man did, because he’s out of touch with him. I know the feeling too, but going forward I think he’ll be more in touch with that man he met at that moment, his real self.
I think there’s a good chance this girl clings tight to him. She wasn’t pitying him. She was really attracted by the real man she saw in that moment. That’s all it takes.
I keep saying it. Women are relentlessly attracted to men. They just see so little male behavior, or men who limit themselves. Just keep your frame, latent sadist. She said she’d ditch this guy. Expect her to do so, you’re in the driver’s seat.
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family man. yeah im fucking her. fucked her post fight. thanks for your input, i think you may be right about having hand. Im just eternally suspicious and dont trust girls at all…so i fear that she didnt want to lose her investment, but may lose long term respect for me. i dont know.
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“Im just eternally suspicious and dont trust girls at all”
—> So you’re stuck on this chick? Not good bro. Make strides in your life to be alpha and understand that if she fucks around with co-worker douchebitch, she’s running the gauntlet. You let her know in a subtle manner that you cannot be taken for granted.
Make the money, workout, keep your shit together. If this chick is suspicious of cheating on you, it’s probably true. Which means you start hitting up more girls. Don’t get emotionally invested in her anymore – that’s HER job.
BTW, are you using condoms?
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As a “latent sadist” your only way to beat an alpha male is to be a completely immune sigma male.
If there’s any thing I picked up from that reading is his frame is pulling you in, and this dude is a piece of shit for trying to break apart a relationship. Tells me he is no alpha, just very charismatic.
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> “He just goes out of his way to try and dominate me in front of my chick.”
For future purposes, what are your respective physical statures?
Is he substantially larger and stronger than you?
Is this just a physical dominance, or is there an aspect of intellectual dominance, as well?
I’m having a hard time seeing how a guy working in a coffee shop dominates you unless he’s like 6’5″ 300lbs and was on a NCAA Div 1 football scholarship until he blew out his knee [or whatever].
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thanks dudes. fuckin needed some legit red-pill masculine input. You know your inner game is getting better when you dont wince at people calling out your problems. I welcome it…like oxygen. zombie shane, he is larger than me. Im not feeble by any means, im strong and well built from strength training, but he is just overall lankier and larger. Though im unsure if hes more muscular or not, he wears alot of baggy shit. At the very worst, id say he’s a solid physical opponent to me. Its not a sure thing i could win in a fight. He’s just very cocky and LOUD and belligerent socially. Though ive seen him show up during his gf’s shift, when hes not working, and he is totally quiet and sits in a corner lurking. So i imagine he gets in state during his shift. All i know is that my girl would complain about fighting with him (an instant red flag for me) and then light up like 4th of july whenever id see her around him. Laughing, goofing off etc. I was outside picking her up after all this and he muttered to her something about “”you want me to soup up his car?”. Basically made a dig at my ride. He just negs me in front of her like a faggot, and while my girl doesnt encourage it, im royally insecure that she finds it attractive. Though after i exploded she melted and clung to me like a toddler begging for forgiveness and that she would never even acknowledge him, and that she doesnt like him or find him attractive. I remain…unswayed… and red-pill suspicious.
Practically speaking, I think i agree that i shouldnt be at her work, and i had actually decided not to go there anymore prior to yesterday. And i def agree that i should get the fuck out of her place. It was a last ditch resort for me atm. Probably the source of all this to be honest.
Its strange, i did some sleuthing on facebook (in order to block him and her coworkers from my page) and found the guy…and he acts like the biggest beta bitch on facebook. Nonstop lovey dovey “my world is complete with my missus” type status updates. Shit like “she makes a better man” and even posting those gay pre-written romantic sentences (gifs?) that chicks love to post. blah dee blah. I was pretty suprised. So seeing that i decided to stop feeling so threatened and then i went there….and all that amoging went down. Should have listened to my gut.
For what its worth, i actually hit on the girl he’s seeing, almost a year ago, before i had any clue they were involved. I just rolled up to the coffehouse, horny as fuck and i was ultra direct, and she shot me down. No sweat, but im willing to bet it got back to him. He has always acted super wary of me. So i imagine this is partially to blame for his attitude towards me, and maybe hes trying to rattle me so i leave the picture at the coffeehouse. Dunno.
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the dude might really be gay
cause I ain’t never seen a straight dude act like that
the guy really might just be getting flumouxed around you lolzzzz
but yea dudes and chicks at work are bound to have fun and talk about shit
when I was a waiter I used to toss the bitches around and such
only way a chick don’t seek other dick is if she decides not too not because you tell her not to
so as long as she works always gonna be dudes flirting with her and her with them pretty much it what it is and she always gonna have some feelins or the boss too
props on living in her house
since yea if she payin the rent
that’s prob the real fear is you on your ass not really losin her
thing is if ya can lose her she ain’t yours and if she isn’t yours then she doesn’t matter
but yea when ya tell a woman you are moving out you had better dam well do it cause now she knows you are gonna be her bitch
my chick always be fucking with the huband if she not with me about how I keep my word If I say something cause she know if I say get the fuck out she goin but when he says it he jokin so there are no limits to what she can do
that he will sit there and lap up
what the future on this chick is the question
whats the dynamic of the relationship
why does she see you as long term
do you guys click together like look at other couples and know you got it going on compared is it the one
and what are downsides to smackin this dude in the face when he talks shit
since obviously he beggin for it
I mean dude workin in a coffee shop though for gods sake
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the dude might really be gay … I mean dude workin in a coffee shop though for gods sake
One great question for him, one great observation to him.
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i guess he’s leaving the place according to my girl. And shes not working with him anymore…again this was revealed when i blew up at her…so jurys still out. i dunno, shes nurturing as fuck and takes care of me. but its not enough for me to wana sacrifice my independence to this degree. she saved my ass, but its coming at a price ya know. i mean the girl takes off my shoes every night lol. massages me, buys me food, pays my rent. i just drive her to work and smack her around at home lol. i have alotta alpha capital…as ch would put it. It was about three months of her chasing me down before she started getting anything remotely LTR-ish from me. so i think this is why losing my shit wasnt completely horrible. But still i fucked up by threatening her. gotta keep a tight lid on shit man…but then at what point do you fucking snap…
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you don’t snap ya just tell the chick to kill the dude you don’t like
he he he
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takin off the shoes I likes it
when you say sacrifice independence do ya mean she wants you hanging at the workplace?
This does seem like a perfect situation to go ahead and get your shit together instead of hanging at her work try to improve yourself and your financial position
but yea being a kept man sounds good on paper but a bitch will deball you if ya don’t watch
does she yell at you?
what price is it coming at what does she expect out of you
do you have to cook clean and does she nag you bout chores?
once my bitch started spending loot on me we saw this movie with a battle ax bitch cheaper by the dozen two I think or one
but yea my chick comes in talkin bout she cleaned the hell out of the stove and if I make a mess on it to clean it up right after
shit like that don’t get said in my house so yea major fucking shit test
im like the stove gonna get dirty like it did just clean the thing more often so it ain’t such a big job
yea she ended up crying and shit just the way I like it when I show disapproval of something
Don’t acquiesce to the seemingly trivial only goes downhill from there
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and that was after I got used to cleaning my own house so I was doing dishes where she could see me
and straightening up shit cause I got used to it because I had started doing it on my own
see what it got me though her asking me to clean a stove if I made a mess a power play now I stopped doing dishes again and just use my dick only he he he
now she still trying to order just tells me not to do anything with cleaning if I look like I might touch a dish she says I got it don’t worry just go relax
yeaa babbbyy!!
I guess I can take that order he he he
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gregi
nah i just mean generally living w her. its comforting in a way but it robs me of my freedom, so theres a subtle loss of mystery/intrigue..all the stuff that keeps me looking good. though i think i handle it well, despite how i lost my shit with this situation. im trying to do damage control…although i cant tell if ive lost status in her eyes. my #1 fear is just being a bad judge of character and getting blinsided by a lying bitch. she hasnt proven to me that she lies, so i try to trust her. atm i see no real change after i lost my cool.
no no way doesnt yell at me. she never crosses me. shes very mild and submissive. shell do just about anything i ask.
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my thought too. he might be gay.
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regarding the gay thing.
thats a really interesting possibility. the guy has acted bizarre around me since the day i showed up there. i wrote below: he and his gf (another barista there) havent ever had sex…according to my girl. theyve been seeing each other for almost a year. This was relayed to her by a different coworker. im inclined to believe it. the guys like 28..this isnt like when my 16 yr old gf in high school who made me wait like 6 months before we finally fucked lol. so something fuckin weird going on.
also, his gf is apparantly into girls also….so you have another shade of gay involved here. looking back on other instances it sort of fits. one time early on i walked in to use the atm in the corner. and i sorta turned around and he was right there…so i said “hey dude whassup?”. he acted totally nervous and like barely muttered something and then walked off in a hurry. i thought it was odd…but i jus forgot bout it. he seemed like a deer caught in headlights. very odd. he works with all girls….ive only seen him be affectionate with his gf once and they just sorta hugged a bit. i dont know.
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watch yer cornhole bud.
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He sounds gay to me, too. He’s acting like a girl who’s jealous her friend got a boyfriend and isn’t spending time with her anymore.
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Goth hottie u r. Good lord.
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Read yareally’s AMOG writings. ‘real social dynamics’ videos deal a lot with this kind of situation too. there are all kinds of comebacks you could do to disarm this guy and put him in his place. you handled this situation badly, but you can learn from it.
next time, don’t push responsibility on the girl to handle this. they’re incapable. deal with the dude head on.
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thanks ted. Yeah i knew it too, i was violating everything i knew about game and women. I just lost control. I gotta be honest when i say that confronting the dude, and dealing with this shit directly makes me feel nervous and shitty as fuck. But i feel like my honor is at stake sometimes, although i think my emotional reaction to this is heavily influenced by cohabiting and forming a possesive attitude towards her….because prior to cohab i was only mildly irritated with the guy…and almost always maintained amused mastery. The idea of having to manage amogs indefinitely just makes me ill. I dont know if that makes me alpha or beta….but i fuckin hate this shit. dont enjoy it, and honestly dont feel in control when im getting all pissed off.
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Sadist,
You’re looking for short-term solutions and “How To Guides” for handling this guy which is totally understandable and something many of us would do. The underlying issue is a structural problem so I’m going to deviate from the crowd here and suggest a more holistic solution.
Btw, I’m sincerely sorry to hear about your predicament. I lost an hb7.5 israeli I picked up off daygame a weekend ago due to using short-term solutions instead of fixing the underlying issue. Aka, I understand your pain and frustration. Before “The Red Pill,” similar situations where girls lost attraction were similar to driving a car before it wrecked and you had no idea that the car could wreck or why’d it happen. Nowadays, you can feel the car breaking down, sliding out of control yet you grip the wheel in frustration since you can’t stop the inevitable.
Hopefully what I’m about to say can bring light to that quiet desperation type feel.
Scray said it best a couple months back (Rough idea):
[If you don’t like the way a girl is making you feel, you need to change that.
You don’t change what the girl is doing specifically, you need to change the reasons for why you’re feeling that way.]
1) Telling her off and trying to set it up so she doesn’t interact with this guy is reactive and will probably hurt you much sooner than later (You know this)
vs
2) Legit finding/meeting/attracting comparable girls so you can get your mind off of this. Would you really be as swept up if you had 2-3 similar girls that you could or could try to progress things with?
You mentioned that you know visiting her work and living with her is a bad idea so hopefully you can change that. No doubt there will be solid advice about how to handle this situation in particular but I think you’d be better off changing the underlying issues that would cause you to feel this way:
1) Lack of comparable options
2) Not gaming as much and trying to develop those comparable options
3) Not improving as much so you don’t have much to be proud of. Comes down to inner game
4) Not having a larger goal in life where you can focus more of your energy
Again, you seem wise to a lot of this so hopefully it’s not that shocking to hear that this is more of an inner game issue than an outer. Set yourself up with success and your inner will improve…which will hopefully lead to less distress when external situations/factors like these arise.
Actionable advice on how to handle this guy would be nice and all but focus on things you can control (#1-4 above). This was just experienced first hand and I went from “Yeah i got this girl on lock” to legit feeling like I got emotionally sucker-punched (all my fault, btw).
If you want details on my particular situ I can expand but I don’t want to detract from your thread.
Best of luck.
-IG
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immoral good to hear from you. Always enjoy your feedback. nah not to worry id def be interested in hearing your situation. I gotta crash atm but i will reply more lengthily to your post tommorow after i get some sleep. I def understand what youre saying…in the big picture im chalking it up to winter blues/not approaching and just getting too cozy with one girl. I definitely understand the outcome independent mindset versus the scarcity mindset of not spinning plates. Its eerily predictable…the behavior of running out of (self imposed) options. Even with slightly more independence, just not living with her, i rarely gave the guy a second thought when he would act douchy. Only when i started becoming invested in the girl out of financial necessity did i start feeling threatened by his behavior. And cohabing w her. I swore id never do that shit again, and im working to get out…its such a trap. tty tmrw
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Sadist,
Your situation is pretty similar to mine in the sense that:
1) Chalking it up to winter blues/not approaching
2) Getting too cozy with one girl
3) Its eerily predictable…the behavior of running out of (self imposed) options
Long-story short: I met this HB7.5 Israeli off of Daygame back in December. Went for a day 2 in January and by Day 3 I had the bang. Played it pretty tight up to this point as i was still actively daygaming and going on other dates with girls. Here is where stuff went downhill and hopefully you can learn a lesson from me and not first-hand (because this shit is painful first-hand, lol).
My top 3 Mistakes:
1) I stopped actively daygaming and cultivating similar leads
2) I stopped going out as much
3) I took HB7.5 for granted. I thought I had shit “on-lock” and no way could she lose attraction for me
Notice how the points above that we have in common and my top 3 mistakes will do us in.
Beyond that, I could feel that I was over-investing, getting needy, projecting future plans and fucking up by making mistakes. In other words, I knew that the car was losing control but I thought that whatever, spring-time is near and it’ll be all good because my situation is different. This time around, I thought that since I know game/red-pill, that I could balance all this out by being less available, not hitting her up, ignoring her texts, etc.
Basically, I tried to maintain hand by being reactive and ACTING disinterested versus legit being disinterested. But get this, acting disinterested is no less reactive because you are going out of you way to do this.
Check this
text: http://i.imgur.com/9D5CEuj.jpg
That is evidence of me doing reactive shit to maintain hand because I didn’t have abundance, was developing oneitis, and was investing more in another person than I was myself.
The ending? She started to fadeaway and I could tell so I started to fadeaway too. I invited her out to a concert but on the day of, my pride prevented me from hitting her up to secure plans for the pre-game. She didn’t hit me up and vice versa. She shows up to the concert and surprises me when she tells my buddy that she isn’t interested in me anymore. Can’t blame her because I was trying to actively game the situation instead of being congruent and coming from a place of abundance. It hit me like a punch to the stomach and I’ve spent the last week reeling; no doubt because of Mistakes #1-3.
TL;DR: It’s better to operate from a place of abundance than a place of scarcity. Set yourself up to have abundance instead of acting like it and it will be better. Remember the inner-self always shines through.
-IG
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@Immoral
Woohoo, glad to see you’re back man! Although, I’ve been progressing slowly, I’m PRETTY MUCH at the point where I am ready to close. I can DHV, I can approach, I can go physical, I can makeout, I can pull shit outta my ass and make it funny, I can plow, I can lead… now I just have to make the decision to pull.
Got into a moral dilemma with this hot drunk chick. Should I pull her? Or is it wrong to do that? My pua bros all bashed me (“wtf is wrong with you?!”) so next time I’ve decided to fuck the girl if she’s hot, as long as she’s not vomiting and stumbling everywhere looking like a fool.
This one was only SORT OF doing that. I said “afterparty” she said yeah, and then I starting going over all the things that could go wrong… then she left.
This was end of the night. But I’m positively ready to close now.
Haven’t been going on any day twos. To be honest, I haven’t really been doing a lot of number closing until recently. A lot of bullshit I would obsess over for weeks… and then one of my friends got laid with a rich busty blonde chick and now they’re fuckbuiddies. That lit a fire under my ass… or at least enough that I’m absolutely closing whenever I make the opportunity.
Anyway, glad you’re back. I don’t come here that often though, but I still drop in a few times a week to read YaReally’s and the rest of the crew’s posts.
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@hunter
losers take advantage of chicks who are too drunk. if you’re looking to get laid, you just need to approach more and filter out the chicks who are dtf. there are millions of girls looking for recreational sex on a given weekend, there is no need to get yourself in trouble over a chick who is incapacitated. it’s a violation and sign you have no options or confidence in yourself.
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Great to see you posting again, man. Sorry things went to shit with your 7.5 tho. Looks like you’re going through some awesome inner game stuff.
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@Hunter
What’s up dude! I still was following your FRs man. As you can see by my post above, it’s about time I get back out there in full force again.
In regards to closing…I saw that you went to a HotSeat. Good on you man that def helps your game out from what I’ve heard. Glad to see you practiced the fundamentals like YaReally said to do…you spent your fall/winter right brother. Look forward to swapping stories on here over the next few months.
@Scray
Yo dude. Yeah this whole situ was a wake-up call for me man. You got to be progressing and spinning plates or you’re gonna have a bad time lol. I’m getting over it…what irks me is the whole ego thing. This was my source of validation and I lost it in a bad way lol.
But truth be told, I lost, what, 2 months? I learned a fuck ton and got a potent reminder as what not to do so it’s good timing since the season is about to change. You said it best though man. I remember your comments sticking in my head over the past month and it was an icky cognitive dissonance. Half of me knew I was fucking up and the other half was in denial. Fortunately, my gut was right as she faded away towards the end so my instincts are getting better.
This is the last I’ll speak of her it’s time to move on. Did 3 direct cold-approaches today and starting to feel better.
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Oh gee look, immortalgaybles – a white-knight who constantly posts text exchanges where he crashes and burns with women – and Scray, resident darkie who is a self-admitted short crybaby beta – are back on the comment section again jerking each other off to comfort themselves after all their failures with women. you two were meant for each other.
move along folks. nothing to see here.
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next time, don’t push responsibility on the girl to handle this. they’re incapable. deal with the dude head on.
This. Especially when it sounds like she has been probably letting him hit on her. You could try a variant on my above that includes calling her out in front of him (again, calmly, matter-of-fact) and then having a short, to the point, handful of words with him.
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a) my above was really below and b) I mean, what the hell, this is not a one coffee shop town you are living in, is it?
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I don’t know if that will help, I mean the whole point is to DHV.
And it seems this amog is legit showing higher value. At some point you can’t hide it and amused mastery requires mastery … where does he get that leverage.
The amog has higher value than latent-sadist, he knows how to show it, and he is determined to fuck this situation up. It might even make sense to try to confront amog verbally. This is called “talking” or “negotiating” among the less testosterone-amped population. Ask him why he keeps butting in when he’s talking to the girl.
I know this is against all the macho shit one reads on how-to sites, but that stuff is mostly for game among people you’ve never met. How to DHV in five minutes. How losers attract girls for one night stands. Here there’s a longer history.
Actually, this is more like, how does the loser keep the girl when true higher value comes along. Amazingly he hasn’t lost yet, a testament to the staying power of oxytocin.
Logically, this chick is gonna have to make a choice. But the chick has said she’ll stay with him! Sure, don’t rely on that promise, but don’t think it’s some sort of subversive plot against you either. It’s oxytocin (bonding) talking, and it’s a good ally. It tends to last about four years. (Then it wears off and the divorces start.)
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First of all, i would have called them both out in public. To her, in front of him, “why are you accepting this guys needling of me?” Not aggressive or bitchy. Just matter of fact question. and when he pokes his nose in with something to needle you at that point, “dude, what you think here is unimportant.” Good friends get a little leeway with embarrassing you in front of your girl, if it’s all in good fun. Girlfriend’s douche coworkers don’t. There’s nothing wrong with pointing that out to everyone involved.
At this point, it doesn’t sound like you have even given the guy a good warning to put him in his place. Maybe t’s time for a small confrontation. I mean, what, do you think he’s going to fight you in the coffee shop? And within whatever parameters that will allow you, if you want, to come back in the place. First opportunity you get, you could coolly tell him to watch his mouth (below you mention him always wanting to shake you hand, maybe some version of “dude, no thanks, we’re not friends” but I’m not sure whether that’s been made clear to him). WARNING: No matter what you have planned to say, no matter how genius you think it is, be prepared for him to come back with something aggressive, which you can’t let bother you. Say something like “yeah, I figured a jackass like you couldn’t take a hint, no worries bro, just stay out of my face”. With a smile on your face. Don’t appear upset. And you shouldn’t be upset. Dude is a douche.
Three, this bitch doesn’t sound like she’s worth it. See first point. Not sure why we are wasting so much ink on this.
(ps. “dude” and “bro” and “no worries” are just my way of trying to keep a calm frame when the underlying content is getting serious)
(pps. I typed up paragraph two before reading a few more of your comments below. It’s not clear to me that you think you need to put this guy in his place)
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yeah its not clear to me either. I feel like this is less about the girl and more about not allowing myself to get tooled. I’ve just been amazed at how persistant this guy is, i’ve ignored the living fuck out of him for awhile…but he persists. He just wont stop, continues to sneak up on me and try to fuck with me. One time…month or two ago he fucking came up behind me while i was on my laptop and like pressed a button “oooh what does this button do?”and walked off. Another time more recently i was on the same couch, and i felt a hand on my shoulder. Not firm or nothing just a quick hand resting on my shoulder. I turn around its him, and i say “whats up dude?” ands he flat out ignores me and starts talking to one of the regulars nearby. I was really taken aback. The closest I’ve come to confronting him is when last week i came to pick her up. I knocked on the glass, as they were closing to let her know i was there. And she opened the door and he said “come on in son” (while they closed up shop. something ive done before and mistakenly complied with when he did something similar one day i was waiting outside). I just said “nah im good”. Then after my girl gets in the car, im idling on the street and he runs around gets like a foot from my face, with my window open and says “Goodbye”.. in this quick smart ass voice.
So on the one hand i feel like this is an overall situation i want to bail out of…at the least just stay the fuck away from her work if i do continue seeing her. But OTH, am i being a pussy for staying away because the guy gets under my skin…ya know? I like your advice, and im def at that point where i aint shaking this cunts hand should i see him…so i think thats sound. Just to cooly tell him that were not friends. Ive thought of that before.
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TBH the guy doesn’t sound so bad.
It looks like the situation when someone is teasing you, and if you say/do nothing but look like it’s bothering you they keep on doing it, but if you tool them back they stop and kinda “respect” you and treat you like an equal!
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Ya pretty much this. You can gain a lot of respect by simply -fighting back-
Like, even if they’re more attractive/alpha-ey/whatever, just by letting it be known that you aren’t an easy target, they will lay off most of the time.
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You called him “she” and later “cunt”. Your anger is boiling below the surface and I am sure it’s obvious to all involved. She’s used to it. Not a good situ. I mean, is she even worth it?
You’ve got to get him to back off, or bail out for your own sanity and stop picking up her at work. That means admitting he’s won, but you can’t win them all in life.
I suggest you talk to him man to man and get shit straight between you two. That does not mean threatening him. If it helps, imagine you’re Putin (smaller man but a man’s man) negotiating with Obama. Putin would not come on with threats and anger, but logic, cold logic and reason. Working out a settlement that’s best for all concerned, but not being soft and never forgetting his own interest. Do that with this guy.
This is for the men to settle. The girls don’t even have to know, in fact they should not know. And later if she asks you , be vague about why he’s treating you with respect now. This is not her concern.
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when you talk to him, address him as barista, in a condescending way. thats a girls job not a mans job…
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Alright ol’ oogabooga is gonna tell you how to put the fear of God into this paper alpha. What you do is follow him into a bathroom sneakily have a knife in your hand, sneak up behind and put the steel to his neck. Then say, “bitch, drop them drawers”. Now if sufficiently hysterical your work is done, if not a little prison style rape will take the biggest sigma/alpha down a couple pegs.
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My name is driveallnight, and I approve of this message.
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I’m hella grunching this, but here goes —
‘He is in a relationship with one of the other chicks who works there (coffeehouse), so he poses no “obvious” threat.’
Lol, he poses a threat. If anything, success breeds more success. In order of threats — cad always seen with women > guy with girlfriend > normal single guy.
‘Anyways, ive sensed her attraction to him..my gut is very attuned to this sort of thing. And while she doesn’t touch him or defend his behavior or anything, she definitely plays along when he’s teasing her’
Ya, bad signs.
‘For what its worth i told her to shut the fuck up about him and that im not her therapist’
Which just increases his value — why can’t she talk about him around you? Why does it bother you? Because you are threatened.
‘Where am i fucking up, and while i dont want a confrontation with him….what do you think is wise to do?’
You fucked up a lot by not wanting a confrontation with him. If some dude is tooling you, you need to lay down your boundaries. Trust me. It really doesn’t matter if you get the girl. If you just stand up for yourself and refuse to fall into his frame — for example, ‘ya I don’t appreciate you saying X, it’s not cool.’ and he comes back with typical AMOG ‘oh sorry bro don’t mean to offend you.’ Respond with ‘apology accepted.’ You will feel good about yourself, and you will give less of a fuck about your chick liking the guy, and -amazingly- this sort of inner confidence and integrity will get her more attracted to you.
You also shouldn’t have relented on your decision to break up with your girl. Your gut is always right. Never go against it.
Of course, your main problem here — in all of this — is that you were reliant on ONE GIRL. Can you imagine how fucking boss you would have acted if you had 4 or 5 bitches in rotation? Who gives a shit if one of them seems to like some other dude?
The real problem is any kind of oneitis.
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This sounds right. You’ve got oneitis for this girl.
Are you her servant? Picking her up at work and enduring this shit to do so?
For some reason you don’t disclose, she still apparently has the hots for you. Maybe it’s just the stuff you do for her and the rent you help with, or maybe other things.
But putting up with this stuff is not required. Life is too short.
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slow down. im not her servant. the dynamic is really the opposite. i havent paid any rent and she basically supports me 100%. i give her rides because i honestly dont care i drive so much anyways. its really the only way i help her out. she seems to love to take care of me. i do agree that this stress is not required though…which was part of my initial assesment in my first post. im not sure how to answer your question about why she has the hots for me. i had alot of alpha momentum going into this situation..and im not convinced shes crazy about the guy. but im wary. alot of people are suggesting he could be gay, which i actually never considered…its further possible because i learned through my girl that he and his gf (another barista there) havent had any sex. theyve been seeing each other for several months… if not a year by now. and i guess his gf is into girls also…lol fucking wacky culture. its a damn interesting point though…the guy has acted weird around me from the day i started going there. even prior to getting with this girl.
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This is the sort of confused situation we have these days because of endless relationships. This chick is spending her few precious fertile years working in a coffee shop, she has taken in a stray man she is attracted to (latent sadist), and the normal next step is
FUCKING GET MARRIED AND HAVE 5 CHILDREN TOGETHER
instead of all this bellyaching and back and forth while she loses her youth and latent sadist gains experience that won’t be all that important after he finally settles down.
Latent sadist you’ve gotta choose. Because I think you could have this girl. But if you want her, man up (I never say that except for this instance) and propose a very short engagement. And if you don’t, let her find another man.
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A good old punch to his face would have been much healthier for everyone involved.
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Read this comment and most of the ensuing conversation, and had to respond.
He’s no alpha. He’s a beta taking a shot at the title, a swing at the king.
Beta males aren’t all passive pussies. They’re often jealous and insecure, so they’ll seek out better (read: alpha) men to bring down to their level. It makes them feel better about their pathetic lives. The problem is, he pulled you to his level. Now, as a better man, you have somewhat already and can continue to regain frame.
CH wrote about AMOG uppity betas:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/dealing-with-hair-ruffling-amogs/
My response to this beta when he drops one of his annoying lines: Turn slowly to him, lock eyes, squint slighty, pause and flatly say “Are you gay?” He’ll retort “no” and probably add to it “Are you?” “Why do you say that?” “I have a girlfriend” etc. It doesn’t matter. Sort of look away, disinterested in his spoken answer. Pause for a second, still calm in body language and tone, and say “Huh. You remind me of a weird gay guy I used to work with.” He’ll probably respond again, something about how gay YOU are or whatever. Again, it doesn’t matter. End the conversation by turning back to whatever you were doing thus ignoring him. If you were just sitting there, walk out and say with some condescension “I gotta take a piss.” Don’t return. If you do, make sure you come back with something to do (read a book, surf the net, whatever) and act busy. His beta hamster will be spinning. Ignore him.
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You need to be more specific. Give some examples of statements he makes to you or about you that you think are his attempts to AMOG. If it’s just some dumb ball-busting, then keep ignoring or give a dose back. If it’s more serious accusations or insults, then more serious measures may need to be taken. And how often do you hang out at the coffee shop when your gf is working? Looks a little loser-y.
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As a “man” Who is unable to provide his own living space, you do not deserve to have a girlfriend, so get the fuck out of here and leave us alone
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its a game blog dipshit. the fact that 10+ people have something to add shows the relevancy of such an issue to most men
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I rarely have fights with people so I had this ‘we’re done’ reaction only once in my life and she had a similar reaction to your girl(give me another chance). I pretty much had no reaction except looked her in the eyes while she was pleading and asked her ‘why?’. The make up sex, initiated by her, was pretty amazing. Maybe it was a fluke, but I doubt it.
Regarding the douchebag, tool him back. I think the ‘you’re hitting on me’ angle that you got in other replies is pretty good. You can even tool him about his job being congruent with his bi tendencies. You can also ask him if he is hitting on you because he wants you to fuck his girlfriend. Flip the script on him.
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@ Maya
Make me a sammich and then we’ll talk.
Regards,
The Autistic Gamer
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Dude. Feel for you, brah.
I don’t have much experience with your situation precisely as it deals with a relationships, but I have had to deal with an inordinate number of obnoxious douchebags in my line of work.
The best tactic, which I’m sure the rest of board will confirm, is that attitude of amused mastery. It’s hard work and (almost) impossible to fake, but it pays endless dividends in every area of your life.
That said …
I once lost my cool for one blinding flash with one of those lazy yet arrogant bastards and it cost me hard-won credibility and even led to me losing my job.
Still, it felt great to smash his smirky face in and I’d do it again.
The long-term consequences are that I was able to start my own business after being fired, and am making twice as much money and own an asset that I can pass on to my children.
It was the best thing that ever happened to me. And now this fuckwit has to deal with me on a regular basis, knowing that his slippery, sneaky sabotage backfired, and I am now top dog in our very large social set. And while it seemed to him that he’d won the round, I won the battle. People know that I’m a friendly, gregarious guy, but they also know underneath that velvet glove is a fist of steel.
My preferred tactic is to act all super-friendly and backslappy around him and watch him wince. He actually flinches every time I put out my hand. It’s so much fun.
As Gore Vidal put it so well, “It’s not enough I succeed. Others much fail.”
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thanks man.
“He actually flinches every time I put out my hand. It’s so much fun.”
funny. this is this guys prefered tactic now too. Everytime i walk in he tries to get me to shake his hand. def a power play, and it def raises my hackles. and the girl im seeing was all “oh the shook your hand, oh that was nice!”. I cant tell if shes playing dumb, or shes just totally naive and oblivious to the dominance-play undertones. she says the latter.
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Shake his hand, but make sure yours is on top and that your grip is firm. You can even go and ask his girlfriend what handcream is she using that her boyfriend steals because his hands are so smooth. Then if she laughs, ask her if he also sometimes uses her makeup. Just make shit up and tool him and he will stop this crap.
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Scray: “The real problem is any kind of oneitis.”
Bingo. Oneitis only makes sense if you’ve given your word about a relationship, such as when you are engaged or married.
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“is that a before or after photo”….
my vote is for 4/10 on hot or not
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OT: Field report – ish
TL;DR – 4.5 SMV guy with no redeeming physical qualities applies game masterfully and has a solid HB 7 eating out of his hand, and when she went to the restroom acknowledged to me that he knew about “red pill” and “game”.
The story;
Mostly about another man who impressed the living shit out of me, though a bit about my own interesting encounter as well. Word of the manosphere is spreading, is all I can say.
So it’s Saturday afternoon and the sun has come out for a fleeting hour or two, meaning that the temps here hit a whopping 49-51 degrees. Yeah, I know, sucks, but we’ve been sub arctic temps wise since November. Needless to say, I take the motorcycle down off the stand and take it out for a spin.
Hit a couple of bars while making my way down the road. Hit the home base bar last, biker bar that seems to draw in upper middle class “professional” women types out looking for their alpha fix. Sure enough I no sooner walk in the door than I notice a gaggle of chicks at one end of the bar, and two more coming in directly behind me (cooing appreciatively about my bike and how surprised they were to see anybody riding this soon, blah blah blah chick flirting stuff blah blah).
Sit down, take off the jacket, order a drink and immediately a very attractive 20 something girl (I’m 46), brunette, very round feminine face and a nearly perfect physical build locks eyes with me, smiles, then basically invites herself over and sits beside me. HB 8, easily. Long story short, she said that I look a lot like a famous person she’s into, everything’s cool, she provides the number, touches me like she owns me, rubs her body and hands over me several times “hugging” as she left conveying the message very clearly of “I want to fuck you right here, but they might call the cops”, begs me to call her, and so on. She leaves, all is right with the world. Good for me.
So, she up and leaves, and two girls who trailed me in start flirting across the bar. It was apparently a really slow day in the city, or I was the last man alive (or at least, the last Most Awesome Man alive). One comes over, sits right where the other had sat, and honestly, didn’t really impress me, especially after My Biggest Fan had run such a great routine just a few minutes earlier. She was boring and nowhere near the quality of the first in looks. I’d say perhaps a 7, mid 20’s, bangable but uninteresting, most guys would hit on her in a bar though. As I’m sitting there giving the best impression I can of not giving two shits to hear her talk any longer, she soldiers on with a vengeance. A guy sits down on the other side of her. Short. Bad teeth (as in, he had them all, but the front ones appeared to be deciding still which direction to face). No physique to speak of. I was reminded very much of what you’d consider your stereotypical scrawny West Virginian country boy looking like. I’m not good at judging how other men look, but if I’d hazard a guess, I’d say a 4.5-ish.
While she’s babbling to me, dude gives me a silent “You with her” nod, I nod no. When she takes a moment for a breath in speaking, he sidles up and starts playing what I can only consider Master’s Level Game. Fucker had it down tight and scripted (not lines, but order of progression, application of cockiness, aloofness, escalating touching, etc). Chick absolutely forgets I even exist and starts twirling her hair and giggling at his work. He was brashly arrogant about presenting his own physical value (of which he had none, but hearing him talk you’d think the boy was George Fucking Clooney), kept the conversation always redirecting towards sexual innuendo or in some way serving keeping her aroused, great use of subtle negs that got her immediately qualifying herself, push and pull like it was second nature to him. The girl has to get up to go to the bathroom, making sure to tell him “Please don’t go anywhere!”. Off she goes. I laugh and my first words to the guy were “Red pill?” He smiles and fist bumps me. I compliment his skillful use of game, he acknowledges, then she returns, and back he is at it. When I got up to leave he was touching her face, she was touching him, etc. etc. and I guarantee that that 4.5 SMV boy either got laid or got numbers to get laid in short order. Fantastic entertainment to just sit and watch and marvel at.
Game works men, take it to the bank. That little dude had the balls to not only successfully hit on a chick a good 3 points above his SMV weight, he did it fearlessly and without regard to the very tall, muscular, proofed and attractive alpha biker that she was trying desperately to get the attention of just moments earlier. He worked her like a boss and she fell into compliance immediately to the awesomeness of his technique.
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Great story, man. Thanks for sharing.
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“How ’bout texting her back a few hours later saying it’s only pulling a 4/10 on hotornot.com?”
Has anyone tried that for an opener on OKC/POF?
E.g. “Hey, your pic is pulling a 4/10 on hotornot.com”
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Testing it right now. I’ve got a major trolling account on OKC.
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I asume that you’ll probably get some replies, though this version has to be refined as it may 1. offend them and 2. piss them off for you submitting it to hon
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Girls have absolutely no sense of humour indeed.
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“piss them off for you submitting it to hon”
Why admit to doing that? Tell her that you’ve seen her pic on hotornot and it’s only pulling a 4/10. This line worked in the context of a girl you had rapport with, not some random girl on a dating site. Adapt it for the latter.
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