Women of all (pre-menopausal) ages and all social strata are fascinated by mental parlor tricks. They enjoy the self-revelatory aspect of psychological quizzes, and especially those versions which summon the senses and amplify the feels. Once a girl is emotionally charged, it’s a simple matter to anchor her good feelings to your company.
Today, I will reveal a very special game routine that as far as I am aware exists nowhere else in the game literature. It is a proprietary and leather patented CH blend of neural witch-craftery that engages girls so powerfully they won’t want you to stop. This routine — what I call the Imagination Test — is ideal during that getting-to-know-each-other phase of the pickup, (or what PUAs call the comfort stage). You could try to use it at any time during a pickup, though; the routine is designed to work within a broad array of contexts.
The premise is uncomplicated. Like an acting class instructor, you guide the girl through various sensual exercises simulating brief scenarios or actions that you choose at your discretion. For example,
“Imagine you’re holding an ice cream cone and the scoop falls out to the ground. Feel your face change as your disappointment rises.”
Or,
“Imagine it’s midnight and you hear a loud knock at the door. All the lights are out and you have no idea who it could be.”
The gist of this routine is to heighten the emotions that a girl feels in your presence. The mere evocation of sensual stimuli will produce authentic elevations in her emotional calibration, much the same way that adopting power poses will produce real elevations in a man’s testosterone level and feeling of confidence. Couple the mimetic onslaught with a shrewdly anchored hand to thigh or forearm and when she recollects her dreamy night feeling the fuzz of an imaginary peach you concocted from thin air, her mind will travel a short hop from fruit to you, farmer of emotions.
By getting a girl to essentially play-act imaginary stimuli recruiting one or all the senses, her mind opens to further exploration with you and she becomes quite a bit more pliable to your commands, (a pliability to which she secretly yearns to release herself). The Imagination Test is, besides a stimulant for bored girls’ wary ennui, a demonstration of your creativity and originality. Rest assured, there are few men riding these kinds of thought trains through the stony skulltunnels of girls just met. Women are always looking for men set apart; this routine is one way to accomplish that.
The hard part is not the routine itself, but the sophisticated segue you must have to open an unweird social space for the routine. A couple of springboards I use that work well:
“Are you interested in learning a little bit about yourself?”
Or
“Many girls can get by on their looks, but not many can get by on their imaginations. How good is your imagination?”
Neither segue is failsafe verbillade, but they’ll get the job done often enough.
Further examples of the Imagination Test:
Imagine yourself…
stroking a puppy’s belly.
searching through a dark attic with a flickering flashlight.
holding a pigeon to your chest.
seeing a loved one for the first time in a long time.
overhearing your parents having sex.
catching a whiff of a man’s cologne.
smelling freshly mown grass.
tasting something you hate.
feeling an ice cube on your neck (or breast, if mood permits).
massaging a lover’s face.
letting rose petals slip through your fingers.
wrapped in a sheer satin curtain.
breaking warm bread fresh out of the oven.
gently tracing the face of your grandmother.
rolling your fingertips over a strong back (substitute female body part if you think she’d be down for the FFM).
biting into a juicy sweet melon.
revealing yourself naked for the first time to someone you love.
After your hypnotized hussy has gamely visualized and phantom experienced your sensate novellas, the opportunity is rich for a well-placed neg or a grudging acceptance of her imaginative, if unexpected, spark. Too, there is the chance to reveal to her (fib, really) what her mien during the exercises says about her personality (feel free to wing it here). As long as it’s about her and her centrality to the cosmos, she’ll feel that ever-present but slyly nebulous “connection” that women so love and that men strive to fabricate for slits and tingles.
Your post-thespian responses can run the gamut:
“When you tasted the food you hated, your mouth made this funny snarl, like a dog trying to lick away peanut butter.”
“When you smelled the grass, you had this incredibly serene look. What was it that made you so contented?”
“You put your hands behind your back when you imagined being naked. This small movement tells me you want no obstacles between yourself and a lover.”
***
Seduction comes in three stages for a reason: it’s the rediscovery of a natural mating rhythm that has likely remained unchanged for eons beyond memory. Now you, reader, imagine a woman’s heart as a pot of water on the stove. You tease her and challenge her to turn on her burner. You draw her in with words festooned in emotional garland to warm her lifeblood. You raise her temperature with feints toward the gas jet until she is boiling over. Tease, engage, escalate.
TEASE. ENGAGE. ESCALATE.
Maxim #20: First, lead by defying. Then, lead by inspiring. Finally, lead by desiring.
All steps, however abbreviated, must come in their order to inflame her curiosity, just as your eyes must travel the expanse of her body and the inflection points of her face, and your ears receive the chirp of her voice, to form the full measure of your lust.

[…] The Imagination Test: A Game Routine […]
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here ya goesz:
Imagine you’re holding my lostas cockasz cream cone and the cum falls out to the ground. Feel your face change as your disappointment rises.
Or,
“Imagine it’s midnight and you feel a large cock at the gina door. All the lights are out and you have no idea who it could be.”
“Are you interested in learning a little bit about yourself as my cockasz glidesz ina and outz?”
Or
“Many girls can get by on their looks, but not many can get by on their bowjobs . How good are your blowjobz?”
Further examples of the Imagination Test:
Imagine yourself…
stroking my lostas cockasz belly.
searching through a dark ass for my cocksas with a flickering flashlight.
holding my penisz to your chest.
seeing a loved one for the first time in a long time, while i do u doggystylez
overhearing your parents having sex, and den finding me fucking your momz
catching a whiff of a man’s cologne when you lickz my bunghozlzo.
smelling freshly mown grass shaved off your assz.
tasting something you luvz 2 hate like da fgbfmz cumz lzozoz.
feeling an ice cube on your breast (or clittorlis, if mood permits).
massaging a lover’s face with your ginaz.
letting rose petals slip through your fingers and onto my ballsz.
wrapped in a sheer satin curtain with a holesz for my lotsstas cockasz.
sipping warm cumz fresh out of da cockaksksz.
gently tracing the face of your grandmother, and feeling granpasz dried cumsz lzozo.
rolling your fingertips over a strong bungholez (substitute female ginaz part if you think she’d be down for the FFM).
biting into da gbfmz juicy sweet cockasz melon.
revealing yourself naked for the first time to someone you love (if its da gbfm, it will be da last time too, and i will leave you lying on da bed with your ass in teh airz lzozozlzoz).
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hey hearrtaeietstsz heararietststz!! yuou menat tor wirtez:
TEASE. ENGAGE. ESCALATE.
OR YOUZ GOTTASZ MASTURBATE!
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i like your game posts significantly more than political rants
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We racists are shallow like that…always thinking about culture, future generations, the ravages of fiat currency, genuine diversity, truth, hoping to avoid some hellish Balkanization, etc. Stick to teh P00nz, man!
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I mean, it’s not like there are any political topics that require any deeper analysis, right? I think It’s all in pretty good order, and is more or less on-schedule.
So, yes, let us please get back to the all-important how-to-get-one’s-ex-to-do-ATM. Shalom.
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…everyone thinks they are an expert on politics….even those with no meanignful power in the world to speak of…
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Ha ha ha haaaa! Good one! You paid The Village(tm) shill / useful The Village(tm) Idiot!
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..and you paid me…
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good agree and amplify – but based on a false premise
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..you can tell when someone is cranky…they talk about politics…..
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Or whine about how others are talking about politics…
Especially when their mentality is only interested in how to get their wicks whetted and wetted by someone other than themselves.
You dweebs are pathetic… a world chock-full of sluts, free with their favors, and putting out for a mere song… but all you clowns can cry is:
“Oh, please, CH… just talk about the bishes and tell me how to finally get laid!!!”
You slack-jawed fairy.
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..that wasn’t my statement..politics only get you as far as the power you actually have…crying about your powerlessness won’t do you any good…you know that…this site is rarely about politics if you pay attention…you sound like a crazy homeless man…
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And you sound butthurt… you fairy.
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Unless you missed it the entire site appears to be a critique of modern morality.
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It’s where pretty lies come to perish. Big popular lies of the current era relate to the true nature of women, beneficial multiculturalism and other PC hogwash.
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and black cock
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Says the muh-dik marionette who neener-neeners everyone else of having black cock on the brain.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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Is this where black cocks perish?
Do you have a perished penis Thwack?
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derp, having nothing to say, simply declares his feelings as if that proved anything. Typical socialist sheep.
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BEHOLD THE FUNDAMENTAL IMPORTANCE OF RACE REPLACEMENTISM TO THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL.
Already, Axelrod and Sunstein have dispatched two new jewish hacks to this website – “derp” and “no” – to beg the Shkotzim to stop talking about the policy of Race Replacementism.
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Do Electric Jews dream of Android Shiksas?
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Well-played, sir. Well-played, indeed.
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I would like to add this to my memory as the “Chateau Heartiste Voight-Kampff Method.” (or Voigt-Kampff for sticklers)
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Imagine… my cock in your ass.
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lol
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this doesn’t defy expectations and wont evoke much of an emotional response
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Whatever petrie dish of a (cough) girl this works on deserves whatever she gets… and that goes for the “got-the-name-of-a-good-clinic?” muh-dik dweeb as well.
And surprise of surprises… look from whence the ever-dandy ‘lol’ arises
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This stuff never works for me, because it requires native-level language fluency. Us men living in foreign lands and speaking second languages are always left out in the cold by these sorts of posts.
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Does your language not have poetry?
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True, but you also have foreign-guy bonus points that negate your non-nativeness.
Girls have a Foreign Guy Fantasy–a desire for a brief, “romantic” (i.e. lots of dirty fucking and lost nights drinking) encounter with a foreign dude. I get this a lot in the east coast cities I frequent; you see a lot of European/Asian/South American girls in town for the week/ studying for just one semester here, seeking a whirlwind romance they can fondly look back on when some beta guy at home is making them stare at the ceiling. Even girls from a different part of the country can think of you as foreign if sheltered or provincial enough.
In addition, many girls in foreign lands will want a quick, foreign guy lover if they they think he’s only in their country for a brief period of time (whether days or a few months). So, in your case, I would emphasize that you’re only in town for a “brief” period —a few weeks is the best one to say (a few days some girls will think is too short, a few months and girls may not think you’re truly a whirlwind romance)
Now, not all girls are into your foreignness; that’s life. But especially if they’re visiting your country, you have an in; they clearly like your culture on some level, and thus are disposed towards you. Then use the night to change locations a few times, to let them “see” the place (or, if you’re the visitor, have them “show” you the landmarks.
Offer them a few romantic (i.e. cheap and darkly lit) nooks to get cozy in and drink red wine, take them to a local landmark at midnight or dawn, and you’re in. Most will giggle at your “cute” (i.e. foreign accent) and go way farther than they ever planned–because “it just happened” and “he’s foreign.”
Bonus: due to the Foreign Guy Fantasy, you can actually score well above your average. If you normally trade in 6’s, you can nail an 8-9 who wouldn’t look your way if you spoke with no accent. Trust me, once you have a few IOIs from a hot foreign girl, go full, hard Rico Suave–you really have nothing to lose.
Note: this does not work on business grrrl types, who travel constantly, or any traveling career gals for that matter.
And if all else fails….
Go forth and multiply via…
say it with me folks….
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I thought I found my theme character.
But he was too subtle.
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Plus, he’s fixated on the mouth. It’s as if he doesn’t know about all the other places he could grape.
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Rape is universal, comrade!
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Rape acknowledges no tongue.
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And if a young girl is in from Africa…
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Expect both HIV and bestiality.
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Unless she’s from southern Africa. They’re more in favor of racial segregation than most rednecks.
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True, but they’re being killed off in a genocide. Many have left, but their descendants are poisoned by whatever lefty propaganda they find in their new countries (Britain and Australia being the big ones they’ve gone to).
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That’s true. I was down that back way in ’94 and it was interesting to see though.
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> “it requires native-level language fluency”
It is also HUGELY IQ-DEPENDENT.
The fantasy you weave, which works wonders on chicks with IQs of 100, simply will NOT work on a chick with an IQ of 130.
If, say, you’re in France, and you wanna try this technique on one of the big brain chicks at, say, the I.H.E.S., then your serpent’s forked tongue had better be whispering at least as lyrical a French poesy as did Gustave Flaubert.
Otherwise she won’t just next your ass – she’ll laugh right in your face before turning her back on you.
Right tool for the job, my mates.
Right tool for the job.
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Try this It is about hitting the wall
Ode à Cassandre de Ronsard
……………………………………….
Donc, si vous me croyez, mignonne,
Tandis que votre âge fleuronne
En sa plus verte nouveauté,
Cueillez, cueillez votre jeunesse :
Comme à cette fleur, la vieillesse
Fera ternir votre beauté.
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” Otherwise she won’t just next your ass – she’ll laugh right in your face before turning her back on you.”
I found the women in Paris to be very inviting. My French is total merde. Few were offended gave me the stinkeye , most found my verbal fumbling to be endearing even if they did giggle.
Generally true to the stereotype they don’t wear deodorant or shave their legs. Great kissers and ( 2 out of 3 ) very passionate lovers though.
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> “Great kissers and ( 2 out of 3 ) very passionate lovers though.”
And what’s the buns in ovens count?
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“The fantasy you weave, which works wonders on chicks with IQs of 100, simply will NOT work on a chick with an IQ of 130.”
Depends, sirrah. If you say it in fluent, flowing French to a 130 American chick you might as well go ahead and pull out three condoms in anticipation.
What helps more is the surprise factor of intelligent seduction if they anticipate that you’re a bad boy/thug/redneck. You can watch the shields literally get blasted out of existence. “Oooooh, why does a rancher looking redneck dude know Russian/French/poetry?! You’re such a mystery! Omg!”
Right tool for the job, my mates.
Right tool for the job.
Absolutely. Always keep’em guessing.
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> ““Oooooh, why does a rancher looking redneck dude know Russian/French/poetry?! You’re such a mystery! Omg!””
BINGO.
Thread winner.
Next thread.
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Re: Brainy Chix
Cave man game?
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Right – we’ve got a little subthread below about going Hard Troglodyte on LawyerGrrrrl.
Hard Troglodyte / Caveman Game is a most potent tool which should be in every PUA’s toolbox.
If you’re a sissy-fag effete panty-waist, who nevertheless wants to get laid by real females [not faggots], then fake Caveman until you can make Caveman.
And then just when she’s got you pegged as a moron, you flip the dinner table right over on her, and start dropping the Flaubert or the Dostoevsky on her unsuspecting ass.
Keep her guessing.
Get her mind to spinning.
Make her obsessed with trying to figure out how she can seduce the troglodyte with the evil serpent’s tongue and the twinkle in his eye.
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I like these better than the strawberry field routine.
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Very nice. It’s basically poetry though.
This is what a poet does at the mic.
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Kinda. It is poetry insofar as it is sensual descriptions of items in the world. The seduction however is getting the opening in such that she thinks it’s all about her her her (hence, she will be insanely interested) and then the closer where you sum up her reactions and make them sound both interesting as well as steering them towards your future sexual encounter with her (hence CH’s mentioning of being open to a lover, etc). Poetry in and of itself does nothing, if you just walk up and read her some John Donne you ain’t getting squat sexually, however if you convince her to go on a journey of guided imagery and take note of her responses, you got a lot of raw material just queued up and ready to use on her already emotionally heightened state.
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Imagine yourself being…
nah, too easy.
wait, there’s no such thing as a too easy rape!
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My first forays in GameWorld were via the cube and strawberry fields (circa Strauss’ The Game). They worked so well I thought I’d discovered the compass to navigate vast seas of cooze-ooze.
My opinion hasn’t changed. It’s just that now many girls have heard these routines. It’s an arms race out there. Thanks CH for another shell for artillery fire to blow apart the ever-armoring bitch shields of today.
But even the girls who have been gamed via the cube and others (the chalice, etc), are open to rico sauves, who speak in a low rumble with rich description and light touching. So solipsistic are the hot ones, they love nothing more than hearing about how they are special snowflakes – especially with a few sneaky negs to keep them off balance.
Plus it’s just plain fun!
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Holden: You’re in a desert, walking along in the sand, when all of a sudden you look down…
Leon: What one?
Holden: What?
Leon: What desert?
Holden: It doesn’t make any difference what desert, it’s completely hypothetical.
Leon: But, how come I’d be there?
Holden: Maybe you’re fed up. Maybe you want to be by yourself. Who knows? You look down and see a tortoise, Leon. It’s crawling toward you…
Leon: Tortoise? What’s that?
Holden: [irritated by Leon’s interruptions] You know what a turtle is?
Leon: Of course!
Holden: Same thing.
Leon: I’ve never seen a turtle… But I understand what you mean.
Holden: You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Leon.
Leon: Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden? Or do they write ’em down for you?
Holden: The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t. Not without your help. But you’re not helping.
Leon: [angry at the suggestion] What do you mean, I’m not helping?
Holden: I mean: you’re not helping! Why is that, Leon?
[Leon has become visibly shaken]
Holden: They’re just questions, Leon. In answer to your query, they’re written down for me. It’s a test, designed to provoke an emotional response… Shall we continue?
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Ah, Blade Runner! Took me a while to remember where that comes from. The replicant tries to interrupt and sabotage the story as much as possible.
I read the book too, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? While he is tasked with testing androids he is also asked to test Rachael, who works at Rosen Association, as a by-the-way. The test ends:
“My briefcase,” Rick said as he rummaged for the Voigt-Kampff forms. “Nice, isn’t it? Department issue.”
“Well, well,” Rachael said remotely.
“Babyhide,” Rick said. He stroked the black leather surface of the briefcase. “One hundred percent genuine human babyhide.” He saw the two dial indicators gyrate frantically. But only after a pause. The reaction had come, but too late. He knew the reaction period down to a fraction of a second, the correct reaction period; there should have been none. “Thanks, Miss Rosen,” he said, and gathered together the equipment again; he had concluded his retesting. “That’s all.”
You can read it online. This book is really innovative, contains more philosophical quirks thant he movie. One of those books that a woman would never write. Most men couldn’t do it either, but a minority can, the minority who drag the rest of the world forward.
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When will they stop misspelling “Rachel”?
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Dick knew about the Jews. There’s a decent article somewhere on mypostingcareer about this novel.
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I read it now, here:
http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/2847-do-paranoids-dream-of-electric-jews/
That is a very good analysis. When I read the novel I was in junior high school and didn’t understand. But it is clear now. Yes, the androids are incapable of feeling empathy, and show contempt throughout for the empathic religion of Mercerism. The TV show Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends, running day and night with vapid celebrity guests (from vaguely unspecified countries, simply famous for being famous – Kardashian) and sneering jokes, is constantly chipping away at Mercerism. And Buster “Friendly” and his guests are actually androids – developed, as all androids, by the Rosen Association. Rosen, Rachael, Jewish names. (By the way, “Isidore” was the nickname Dr. Goebbels gave the Jewish chief of police in Berlin, who was constantly trying to come up with ways of stopping the nationalists and giving the communists the upper hand. In this book, though, Isidore is not Jewish. It must have been added as a quiet joke by Ridley Scott.)
The whole book is about the attempt to dehumanize humans, make them more like the androids. The Rosen Association tries hard to create androids that not even the police can detect as androids – after which they can claim that there is no difference between humans and androids after all. They describe Mercerism as simply a way for humans to falsely display superiority to androids, since androids can’t use the empathy boxes that connect humans with Mercer. A snyde, vicious description of a religion that makes people feel better and behave better toward each other. Buster Friendly is jealous of Mercer and is fighting with Mercerism for control over the human soul. As he is programmed to do by the Rosen Association.
Very good analysis.
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Wow.
I might have to check out this dude’s body of work.
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Ubik and A Scanner Darkly are also excellent. The Galactic Pot-Healer is less so, but still one of my favorites.
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Note also that Dick considered himself a Christian, though a Gnostic one.
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From hypothetical deserts to hypothetical walls:
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It also reminds me of “Tao of Steve.”
Dex says, “Both men and women want to have sex. It’s natural, except we’re on different timetables. Women want to have sex, like, y’know, fifteen minutes after us, so alright, if you hold out for twenty she’ll be chasing you for five.”
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Never seen it.
Is that a timetable? Suggest something direct at twenty minutes but not a moment before?
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You should see it. Not a great movie, but has lots of great game advice.
It was written (and starred in) by two sisters, Greer and Jenniphr Goodman, and purports to show that a player must put away his toys when he meets his soul mate. However, it unintentionally proves the efficacy, and necessity of game. There is a rich lode of irony.
And others on the board are probably more knowledgeable about the background – but I believe it was based on a real character.
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One thing to think of is that, yes, both men and women want to have sex, but for men it is food. For women it is just one type of meal. They can have it or leave it be, have a safer meal instead. It is a messy meal anyway, not always prepared right, could cost too much, and it could make them fat.
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You’ve never been with a woman have you
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You should specify “conscious” woman!
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“You’ve never been with a woman have you” says the moron from Philadelphia. Hello, buddy. Sorry, “pua” as you call yourself in your blog title, so hello, “pick-up artist”. (LOL Always get a kick out of seeing losers call themselves that, as if they think their bragging by giving themselves a title would actually work.) What an avantgarde little avatar you are using there, so chic and modern. Really shows your intellectual side, doesn’t it? Typical self-obsessed leftist who doesn’t know how empty he really looks.
Oh, and learn punctuation. It won’t help you look superior like you wish, but at least you don’t reveal yourself as an idiot too early.
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Lolz.
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That has not my experience. Women are not, in my experience, particularly rational or moderate when it comes to sex. Or much else for that matter.
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I will introduce you to some scientific research, then. Women have less sexual desire than men. Shocker, isn’t it?
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Women have less sexual desire *for you*. Speak for yourself man, I think CH has gone over this a couple times before. Alpha fux beta bux.
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Nah, CH is still on the blue pill in that regard:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/24/men-cheat-more-than-women-because-men-have-stronger-sex-drives/
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Oh damn, good call.
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Merciful Fundamental Correction
Women want sex WITH ALPHA more than you (a man) want sex with a HB who passes the BONER TEST with flying colors. All her eggs are in one basket. When women dress slutty, it’s to fuck alpha. Alpha does not come out every night, but when he does, she is going to do everything she possibly can to fuck him. Your job is to be cast into that role, then she won’t be able to fuck you hard enough.
When you do your hair for an hour, let me know. It’s not FOR other women except to out compete them for the best sperm and non-sperm resources, in that order. Spinsters want to fuck desperately, but are broken and find fault with all men, having calibrated to ridiculous expectations. Young women who want to ‘find themselves’ do that on the end of alpha dick, and women so want to find the spinster inside, to be really sure what alpha essence is.
Short version, courtesy of pulsotic,: “You’ve never been with a woman have you”. Excellent pith, sir, excellent pith.
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Hilarious to see the whiners whose toes I have stepped on try to come up with little theories that are supposed to show how “alpha” they are. Um, no, boy. As research shows (if only you two-digit IQ bipeds could read scientific treatises!) women have a lower sexual desire than men do, which is what I was saying. Was that hard to understand? I can imagine. Now write another long post bragging about how you are an alpha who every woman tries “to do everything she possibly can to fuck”.
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I think you guys might be talking about two different kinds of “desire” here.
OTOH, to the extent that you are indeed talking about the same kind of “desire”, a man’s “desire” is pretty much constant [for literally years at a time], whereas a woman’s “desire” tends to be very cyclical and will fluctuate wildly depending upon whether she is heading up into ovulation or coming back down out of ovulation.
Or at least that’s true of the very high-Estrogen highly-fertile ultra-feminine women.
YMMV with the high-T manjawed lightly-moustachioed triathlete femcunt gals…
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Hey Reality Doug!
There’s a whole world out of your ghetto or trailer park… did you know that?
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That April first date is coming up….
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Intense drama. I think that women come in two states – Pre-love and Post-love. In the post-love state, they are converted and they want exclusivity. In the pre-love state, you mean nothing to them, you are entertainment. This is the flaky stage.
Looking back at my past dates, I find that “hooking” a girl, and getting her into that transition period between the two, comes down to drama and sex. A lot of PUAs recommend sleeping with girls fast for this reason.
Drama is essentially game. Every technique is designed to create drama, a storyline. We both the actors and the writers of plot. We inject it with explosive emotions, ups and downs. Attraction, comfort and seduction are all part of the same dramatic plot.
I have recently been looking ways to inject extreme drama of the kind that is not directly related to the game techniques we all know. Literary drama.
I had a girl who I could not kiss on the first date. I told her I could not see her anymore and walked away. As I was walking away, she ran up to me cinematically, and I walked regardless after a short dialogue. She was begging to see me again through text, and next time I closed the deal.
Unfortunately, I cannot do this every time. There are these dramatic moments that make the plot specially emotional, and I am looking to take this concept to an extreme. For example, imagine punching a mugger into a bloody mess while on a date, or running from the cops together for some reason… These are unrealistic, of course, but the idea is a shared dramatic adventure that is extreme in its emotions, and that is actually doable.
Do you have any ideas? I think this could be an incredible game technique if applied correctly.
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Ross Jeffries has a version of this, but it still has some issues with transition. His approach is a little less awkward, but I’ve yet to read or watch video of any presentation that adequately corrected the underlying transition issues. Anchoring beforehand seems to be key, as well as physical contact and personal grounding and posture. Like so much of game, there’s a big picture and broad set of skills one must develop to avoid the creep label.
The master’s level work I’ve observed evokes remembrance of previous sexual sensations, e.g.: “Have you ever felt a drop of sweat roll down your chest?” and similar remarks. Another easy line is, “Mmm, salty,” with lip licking.
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Great stuff! Only points I’d change is instead of “overhearing your parents having sex”‘, how about “overhearing your roommate having sex”. For lots of people (myself included) the thought of their parents bumpin’ uglies is just too much of a turn-off. Otherwise, sheer poetry!
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I think this can be filed under “Goodbye America”
Not hard to imagine which way she votes, assuming she gets her lazy ass to the voting booth.
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Ugh… What is that thing?!
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Ya future wife
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Oh, for sure. I can’t wait for my foreskin to get caught on those lip rings.
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The irony is that I refuse to have a serious career because it’s a joke. You simply end up paying too much in taxes to feed idiots like her. I’d probably bother with hard work if it made sense, but as it is, I’d work 9 months out of 12 to pay taxes.
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Once this monster crosses you trajectory you are ready to enter the purgatory singing
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Sigh… looks like we’re gonna hafta revisit that whole White Supremacy thing that thwack keeps throwin’ in our faces.
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Star of the new ABC family comedy about a newly married lesbian couple.
Working title is Orc and Mindy.
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Dominance and it’s effect on other men’s storytelling
see rest here:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/head-games/201403/yes-size-does-matter
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…and then there were guns…..and prisons…and feminism…
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White knighting + diversity + pigs = 😦
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-three-marines-stabbed-dodger-angel-fans-20140331,0,6917785.story
“Officers said the incident apparently began when a woman wearing an Angels jersey got into a dispute with two people who were talking about the Dodgers.
As the conflict grew, three Marines who were passing by attempted to come to the aid of the woman wearing the Angels jersey, but ended up being attacked and stabbed.
Police said that as officers tried to break up the fight, one of the Marines was stabbed in the face with a broken beer bottle.
Authorities arrested and booked Manuel Alexis Alvarez, 23, of Downey, and Victoria Robledo, 20, of Norwalk, on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. They were being held in Huntington Beach City Jail.
Additionally, police arrested Paul Santino Forno, 22, of Whittier; Daniel Magadan, 24, of Whittier; Erik Alexander Gomez Chavez, 27, Norwalk; and Jessica Perez, 22, of Downey. All four were interviewed and released pending further investigation, according to authorities.”
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Wasn’t all that diverse. All of them (except the Magadan fellow, who may have been a Russian YKW) were Latino.
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“Magadan” is almost certainly a Filipino surname.
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Off topic.
http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/miranda-kerrs-highflying-sex-life-revelations-20140401-35uv4.html
“The model (Miranda Kerr) also opens up about her relationship with Lord of the Rings actor Orlando Bloom, 37, who she split from in October.
She and Bloom had “great chemistry” in the bedroom, Kerr tells GQ, but says she made her ex wait “six months until I even kissed him”.
SIX MONTHS ! W T F
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He waited, like a dog for scraps. It’s a safe bet it was her who did the dumping.
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Celebrity gossip is for queers and women.
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Consider it intelligence on your enemy.
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GQ is a fag-tastic abomination.
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She’s trying to cut off his dick in public while simultaneously making herself seem like a special snowflake of virtue. Don’t believe a word she’s spewing. She’s female, assume the lie.
Say what you will about Bloom, but he is a man’s man in a lot of ways that most men aren’t. Does his own stunts, has a pedigree record of broken bones and gashes from doing such (including skull fractures), has women across the world throwing their panties at him, is an actor at the top of his game, and this bint wants us to believe he sat around begging her for a whiff of her lipstick, let alone her pussy? I don’t think so. He said “suck it” and she did it within the first five minutes of meeting him face to face.
Seen enough divorces and LTR’s break up to recognize this kind of spew from women as the lie it always is. They cannot wait to emasculate their ex. in front of the world at the first opportunity.
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I read the post and tried this out just to see how it goes with a cougar in my building. I dated her once, she’s now old, has a kid and widowed but looks hot for her age (40?) and elegantly dressed, international brand manager for a French cosmetics company. She’s always perky with me so I asked where she’s been hiding…”Paris”.
Me: “What do you imagine when you think of Paris?”
Her: she goes on to say “It’s stinky….”
Me: “Stinky?” (you can see how easily this works to get her talking.)
Now, I’d like your opinion on her response because for me it confuses me about my own state of game.
By “Stinky” she meant “creepy”. She described how the minute she gets off the plane “restaurant managers” are chasing her to ask her for “coffee” and “Would you like to come to my home?”
They’re effectively chasing her.
I’ve seen this in my own social circle as well—European guys, usually quite good looking employ this same technique: “You’re very pretty, let’s go for coffee, would you like to go to my room?”
This girl seemed flattered. My ex gf went out with a dude who employed the same technique.
But I don’t think these girls are banging the guys. She’s giggling about this approach and then describing for me how she felt “weird” about it.
Though sometimes she does meet them.
Question: Does this “chasing” approach work???? is this even “game”?
Her reaction is one of being excited, but I don’t get the idea she’s actually banging them simply because by telling me the whole story she seems both fascinated and repulsed.
Personally I would always remain aloof, push-pull and neg.
I would NEVER say’ “You’re hot let’s go for coffee”.
What kind of girl accepts this offer? Is this a technique worth employing?
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No, that’s just beta orbiter background noise. She’s using it to reassure herself that she’s still attractive and to elevate her value in your eyes. She’s older, I’m sure it “works” in the sense she’ll have coffee with one or two of them because she’s flattered, but that doesn’t translate into sexual attraction.
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” I would NEVER say’ “You’re hot let’s go for coffee”. ”
I wouldn’t open with it, but it’s direct and confident. Seems like a numbers game , if you run it on enough girls, one is bound to say “yes”.
I use ” Let’s get some coffee sometime. ” On girls I open at the coffee shop while we’re already having coffee. Funnier that way , but never ever compliment her looks.
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This is like standard European guy game on Asian women. They just chase and chase and chase.
Many of the girls agree to meet. But it seems more like they enjoy the attention and being put on a pedestal.
I have not known or heard of any guy being successful with girls who I would consider 7 and above.
This has worked on: older Asian chicks, ugly ones, fatter ones.
But it seems that the reaction: tingles and giggles…isn’t something that actually leads to anything.
My own game has become better and tighter. If I find I’m deflected to the friendzone or it’s not going anywhere I bail.
In the situation where I was a visitor to a place I hit on a girl, push-pulled, she started chasing. I met once for drinks when I came back, amped up kino and k-close.
The next time I visited I banged her and continued banging her for 5 months until I got bored. Now we’re friends and she would do anything for me.
But it seems that guys who do this chasing get no where and only pedestalize women. Anyone seen this when you’ve either traveled to Europe or Asia?
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I’ve seen this in my own social circle as well—European guys, usually quite good looking employ this same technique: “You’re very pretty, let’s go for coffee, would you like to go to my room?”
This is like standard European guy game on Asian women. They just chase and chase and chase.
Sounds like most Americans when they talk about “Europe”. You meet one or two guys from “Europe” (or even a handful – which must be a statistically significant number) and then declare that “Europeans” act this or that way. Sure. Just like when you meet a few men from Nicaragua, you can declare that “people from the Americas”, including people from say Argentina, British Columbia, Alaska, New York, Texas and Montana, act that way. Because they are all from “the Americas”.
People from Ireland, Greece, Albania, Norway, Portugal, Poland, Switzerland, Russia, France are all “Europeans”, but that means nothing. Many of these have more in common with Americans than with some of the other countries. Saying that you have seen “Europeans” do something (run after women they don’t and ask them home for coffee in the first sentence – funny how I have never seen that) means nothing. And isn’t even very believable if you can’t even say what country they are from.
You might as well talk about “people from Eurasia”. Iceland, China, Kuwait, it’s all the same if it’s on the same continent.
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> “The next time I visited I banged her and continued banging her for 5 months until I got bored. Now we’re friends and she would do anything for me.”
And you are not putting buns in her oven because __________.
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> “You’re very pretty, let’s go for coffee, would you like to go to my room?”
Also, as upthread, DO NOT FORGET THE LANGUAGE BARRIER.
That may be as much as they can translate into English.
Or as much as they feel that a foreign girl will be able to understand in French.
[The other possibility is pretty scary – that sixty years of military and cultural domination by the USA has turned them into a bunch of manboobed beta herbling losers.]
Finally, remember that any opening with a chick – no matter how awful – is better than no opening at all.
Better to get up your courage and walk over to her and talk to her and make a complete fool of yourself than to never talk to her at all.
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Maxim #20: First, lead by defying. Then, lead by inspiring. Finally, lead by desiring.
Pure fucking gold Oh Dark Lord.
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Similar to this and complimentary, there is a famous sixties morality test called the trolley test that i have used on chicks. I change it a bit..tease them by saying i have to give them this test to see how moral they are, etc.
Basically, question 1 is do you flip a switch and divert a train which kills one man (some fat guy) but saves 20 women and children. Or do nothing.
Question 2 same problem but now you are on a platform overlooking the tracks..you have to push the fat guy off to stop/divert the train to save the 20.
The dilemna of course is both acts are murder for the greater good..but most people would do the first one but would not do the second..due to our built in adversion to physical violence..drives the female hamster a little crazy.lol.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/this-millionaire-playboy-is-the-most-interesting-man-on-inst
No shit. If I had piles of money, I’d probably do all those things too.
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I’d like to see Heartiste write an article about the hilariously skewed dating dynamics between Western men and Western women when they travel and live in Asian countries. I can’t think of a better illustration of SMP/SMV principles than the social phenomenon of hypergamous white girls in Asia being unable to find clothes that fit their obese frames and unable to have romantic/sexual satisfaction due to them finding the vast majority of Asian men unattractive while their male peers enjoy a sexual feast.
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Hola CH,
With regard to Maxim #20, how should (could) one follow up a reversed stage of “leading”?
Two weeks ago, at a dive bar, I opened up a mixed set (three girls, three guys, couples it seemed) by asking for a light. By the 2nd time I had one of the girls ask me some questions and her friend joined moments later. The guys got angry and left, and we continued chatting with my buddy.
We talked for about 20 mins and go to know each other, I gave ambiguous replies to their flood of questions and they liked my comments even if they weren’t jokes. The 1st one was a weird but good looking hipster, “looking for a fresh start” in life. The 2nd was very pretty, unfortunately a lawyer, dressed in a hipsterish outfit but the Moncler jacket gave off that she really was a hard working upper-middle class brat.
I said i needed to go home and my buddy had plans to see a girl, so they wrote their numbers down on a napkin. I urged them to give me a ride which they happily did. I sat down in the back seat with the pretty lawyergirl and had some light body contact. At my street I said they could come up for fifteen minutes to watch the view (no view, my place faces a yard) before I went to bed. We had some wine, played music and chatted. I was quite drunk and led the conversation into us getting down, while caressing both of them (I was sitting in the middle of the couch). They got very giggly but were reluctant. Said “they were romantic girls and never would imagine doing something like this together”… I was outcome independent, it was funny to try. However they didn’t want to leave the subject and were amused of (not making fun of) my intention. I led them out, to the words of “as the gentleman I am, Ill show you to the door” and they kissed me before leaving.
I want to re-initiate contact with the lawyergrrrrl.
What would CH do?
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> “I want to re-initiate contact with the lawyergrrrrl.”
The first and most important and really the only question is: Are you her intellectual SUPERIOR?
If you are smarter than she, then there are almost infinitely many options.
But if she is at least as smart as you, then you have to go HARD TROGLODYTE on her ass.
Really dull and pedestrian and vulgar.
That’s your only chance.
Don’t try to out-sophisticate a bitch who is more sophisticated than you.
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One good technique for the sophisticated pretentious smart [or even just pseudo-smart] chicks is to keep changing directions so that they can’t get their bearings and figure you out.
Let’s say that she’s seen you once now, in a dive bar, wearing a leather jacket and a knitted wool turtleneck and some scuffed up old working boots.
Then the next time she sees you, you’re in a Michelin ***-star restaurant, wearing a tailored suit and italian alligator-leather wingtips with a heavily starched shirt and your hair is slicked back and you’re talking to the sommelier about the merits of the vintages of the wines on the wine list.
And then the next time she sees you, you’re taking her out on a date to a local watering [swimming, not boozing] hole, with a couple of six packs of Rolling Rock, and an afternoon of skinny dipping, and whatever it is that comes after skinny dipping when you’ve drunk a six-pack of Rolling Rock.
Followed by, say, a chamber music concert, only the balcony is cordoned off, and no one is supposed to go up there, but you sneak into the balcony anyway, and fuck her brains out up there, and she tries not to moan too loudly, but eventually all of the spectators down on the floor of the auditorium figure out what’s going on, and they are all “Who the fuck is up there in the balcony?”, and you’re all, “Honey, I think we better leave. Now. Zip up your skirt. Hurry.”
That sort of thing.
But always keep the hard troglodyte blue collar man-of-the-people act near at hand, because that’s what she NEVER sees in the supercilious oleaginous dickhead company-men faggots whom she has to interact with all day at work.
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I’m digging it.
You’re acually quite spot on. I was wearing a leather jacket and boots! The escape from the dive bar to my place was a juxtaposition of contexts. I’m renting my pad from an interior designer. Even though my own furniture is cool, the place is easy on the eye. The Lawyergirl showed some pics of her parents house because some objects reminded her of their “collection” or whatever it was.
Whether we are on the “same level” remains to say. She’s seemed to have good taste and intelligence, not necessarily great intellect. I probably came off as a troglodyte by the behaviour at home, but it probably means i remain that way whatever memory she has of the encounter – with a tasteful and cool apartment as contrast. So yeah, i’ll bring out the monkstraps/loafers and a suit if a meeting will happen.
Some game theorists (practitioners who blog i guess) haven’t tapped into the gaming this kind of smart-still hip-from “good families” grrrls, but puts most of them in the lawyercunt bracket. Your insights seem to match quite well with this situation and i’m even more intrigued to follow up this with some heavy contrast game.
Taking her to a tattoo parlor for a candyskull tat is perhaps too early… errr…
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And put some buns in her oven
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Don’t try to out-sophisticate a bitch who is more sophisticated than you.
Dammit, Zombie. Says who?
Whenever you think about writing this shit, can you just take a step back and remember that you HAVE A PENIS THEREFORE YOU WIN.
You are interviewing her for the chance to be your assistant/sidekick/whatever.
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> “You are interviewing her for the chance to be your assistant/sidekick/whatever.”
Unless she is as smart and as ruthless as you are [which is entirely possible with li’l lawyergrrrrl here].
In which case SHE IS INTERVIEWING YOU to be her boytoy fuckthing one-night-stand amusement, before she immediately “nexts” you and moves on in search of someone who is more ruthless than you.
HARD TROGLODYTE is always your fallback position.
Learn to project that “DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT” attitude.
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‘In which case SHE IS INTERVIEWING YOU to be her boytoy fuckthing one-night-stand amusement, before she immediately “nexts” you and moves on in search of someone who is more ruthless than you.’
I feel like hitting you on the nose with a rolled up newspaper. That’s just another shit-test attempt to control the frame. As someone who actually FB’d a 7.5 lawyer chick last September, I know what I’m talking about. I’m pretty sure she’s smarter than I am….really doesn’t make a difference…she still texts.
There’s nothing troglodyte about ‘does not give a shit.’
And really it’s better to say ‘only gives a shit about self.’
Anyway, re-initiate like a normal non-sperg. ‘Hey [some variation of you’re cool] let’s hangout soon.’
Boom. done.
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> “non-sperg…. you’re cool…”
Where the fuck are these chicks getting their “Law Degrees” if they respond to “You’re Cool!”
Grambling?
South Carolina State?
Alabama A&M?
Howard?
Spelman?
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‘Where the fuck are these chicks getting their “Law Degrees” if they respond to “You’re Cool!”’
I said some variation of you’re cool. Could also be ‘hey slut,’ ‘hey hot stuff,’ ‘hey sexy,’ etc. etc.
Women like to feel like women, no matter how smart they are, which is why this paradigm you have is silly.
I honestly think you just get thrown off by the frame. When they put their merits in your face — about how smart they are, or something about an ex, or this that this that etc —- they are trying to impress you. They are qualifying themselves to you.
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The ladies DO love psychological scenarios, that’s for sure.
I remember holding them in rapt attention many a time, back when I was scanning a worthy oven to bun up, with two particular gambits… which also served well as a preselection filter.
One scenario involved five characters and a murder, and the listener’s task was to put in order of fault for the death all five characters. Unbeknownst to the listener, each character was symbolic of something in life, and the order in which they faulted each character was the order of importance in THEIR life for these particular things.
Another scenario was a bit more complicated, something about walking through the woods, entering a cabin, and mentioning the first things that come to mind… it entailed about a dozen questions or so, and again, revealed quite a bit about the answerer’s childhood, current state of mind, and priority of things in their life.
It was nuclear catnip to the ladies.
Alas, most of details escape me now… I’ve been satisfied with my “established” loves longer than some of you readers have been walking the earth… and I haven’t felt the inclination to entertain at parties and such for an equal duration.
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If you did encounter worthy oven to bun up, I bet the kid’s first words would be “Frankfurt School”….
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In honor of Zombie Shane’s two favorite topics, natch.
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Politics were never discussed in my house… you can’t be a friend of the world and a friend of God.
And as most Cathedral-aware guys know (especially when having done their utmost to protect their families from the pernicious influence thereof)… those who have lived the good life safely amongst their own kind do not cotton to the message… they have to learn the hard way on their own.
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And don’t get me mixed up with Zombie Shane.
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A) Fuck you very much.
B) A little off-topic, but my thoughts on “a worthy oven to bun up” have been altered rather dramatically over the course of the last few years.
When I was younger, I was looking for IQ and tits & ass and social-butterflies and life-of-the-party-ness and shit like that in my womynz. But mostly IQ.
Now all I care about is CHARACTER.
A bitch who can’t immediately see through the obvious lies which the Frankfurt School is trying to shove down her throat is a bitch who does not have the CHARACTER necessary to have my buns in her oven.
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Zombie Shane,
Regarding CHARACTER. Once you’ve met a wimynz with some of that, wouldn’t you prefer those traits to be oblivious rather than acquired and digested through some red brick institution (or alpha father)? Risk is that such a chick’s milieu, now i’m thinking friends and coworkers, still would turn her into a smartass.
Why am I asking? Because her background and experience produces either good or bad CHARACTER although the qualities I think you have in mind manifest themselves almost the same way in the early phase of a relationship, but will look completely different with some time. Hence disappointment or general cuntiness.
Hence my interest in a prior post regarding “smart-still hip-from “good families” grrrls” who aren’t lawyercunts or overeducated. Still, Habermas next to Houllebecq in her bookshelf would be a good sign.
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Zombie Shane,
Regarding CHARACTER. Once you’ve met a wimynz with some of that, wouldn’t you prefer those traits to be oblivious rather than acquired and digested through some red brick institution (or alpha father)? Risk is that such a chick’s milieu, now i’m thinking friends and coworkers, still would turn her into a smartass.
Why am I asking? Because her background and experience produces either good or bad CHARACTER although the qualities I think you have in mind manifest themselves almost the same way in the early phase of a relationship, but will look completely different with some time. Hence disappointment or general cuntiness.
Hence my interest in a prior post regarding “smart-still hip-from “good families” grrrls” who aren’t lawyercunts or overeducated. Still, Habermas next to Houllebecq in her bookshelf would be a good sign.
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I hate these game related posts. Stick to politics!
/derp
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Do Android Shewolves of the SS dream of Electric Heartistes?
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COTW right there.
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You: “Imagine … you’re reading the book My Secret Garden … You’ve read it right?”
Girl: “No, what’s it about?” or, “YES!!! OMG, you’ve read that?!!!
Can’t think of a better way to steer the conversation to the sexual.
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P.S. Speaking of a game routine, imagine that every time a hot chick crosses your path you have to imagine something to say. That’s game routine.
Just did this at a Chipotle. Black girl in boots, her white friend with long curly black hair, both built like brick houses at the place where you get your drinks and napkins and suck. I come up behind them and waited my turn. They see me and say what most people say, “Sorry,” and do that little scurry shuffle a few feet to the side to get our of your way. I said, “You two can get in my way any time.” Gina tingles and giggles as they left. Always be gaming – it’s fun and it fills your nuts up.
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So what’s the relationship between Nietzsche and the Frankfurt School? And what about the Bavarian roots of the Illuminati?
And I am to believe Rotshild or whatever YKW cabal cared much less had the power to wipe out the catholic Bavarian and Hapsburg monarchies, orthodox Romanovs, and the Catholic-Calvin Hohenzollerns?
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To elicit emotions in this way is basic hypnotism, and the article is certainly a beautiful application thereof.
With certain questions like “have you ever imagined …” you engage the subconscious of your subject in order to get them into a desired state. Emotions _are_ expressions of the subconscious.
I’m looking forward to more of this 🙂
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