Put away your history textbooks, this is the only graph you’ll ever need to consult for an explanation why civilizations rise, plateau, and fall.
set a course for vaginaland, sulu
In honor of the factually baseless, feels-fueled, and insipid “””Equal Pay Day“””, this graph represents what happens to civilizations as they slowly but inexorably womanize.
As you can see, the trajectory is back-loaded. The reason for this is that it takes a long time and a lot of realism to build a civilization from the dirt, but a very short time for that civilization to wither and die once an irreversible feels threshold is crossed. Civilizational peak and plateauing typically occur after feels have pushed aside realism and begun consolidating its cultural power and influence. The lag effect is a feels-ifying culture eating its seed corn.
Tragically, this belle swerve is an inevitable consequence of civilizing progress. Like biological death, civilizational death is unavoidable, an emergent property of collective human nature. The hopeful soul might say that curbing women’s political and cultural leverage can stop the bloodletting; theoretically a possibility, but what are the odds? Better to lounge poolside and enjoy the spectacle of civilization’s enemies shrieking in shiv-peppered pain.
Update
“An increase in the influence of women in public life has often been associated with national decline.”
– The Fate of Empires, Sir John Glubb
[…] The Civilization-Womanization Graph […]
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long story short, all the central bankers can do is create debt
they needed to convert the debt into physical property and goods
so they created the feminist movement and trained women
to seize children/assets from men
promising said women secretely tapbedz alpha fucks in college
and unlimited beta bucks
via the government programs they learned to
advance in
college
lzlzlzllzozo
[CH: unsettlingly lucid.]
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It’s a fish.
It’s a penis.
No,…
IT’S A FISH AND A PENIS!!!
ORDER YOURS TODAY!!!
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Do you think that the Asian elites will some day hurt their society with multiculturalism and extreme feminism their societies like the Western ones? or you think they will be perpetually sane? watching this video make me proud of Asian wisdom
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Gotta love Hungary marking out for her own performance. Good times…
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In the beginning men have to clear ground, cut down trees and fight off hostile tribes so that a village, then a town, can be built. Fast forward a bit. In the middle of that town, safe behind walls and with food coming in from the fields outside, philosophizing then begins where we are all described as “brothers” who must all be loved, which means ignoring inconvenient truths.
While their men are working in the fields, women flock to the preachers who speak the prettiest words about Love, Compassion and Brotherhood of Man. The preachers multiply with this support, and the women have too much support for their conflict-avoiding, reality-denying instincts.
Even then ordinary men, spending their days working instead of philosophizing and proselytizing, will usually keep the upper hand or at least a balance in the field of attitudes, simply by numbers and by undeniable worth as providers. They will usually not know the right words. They will frown and scoff, and say by the dinner table, “You shouldn’t listen too much to that crap.” And often that is enough.
But things can tip over in the wrong direction, and it only needs to happen once for the gates to be opened for the hostile tribes outside to be let in, in the name of Love, Compassion and Brotherhood of Man. Then it’s over.
It doesn’t get better when you have media owners and corrupt politicians actively working for this goal, as a way to make sure there won’t be a majority people that can rise up against them again.
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Anyone interested in getting a more indepth version of Arbiter’s excellent post should pick up Brooks Adams novel “The Law Of Civilization And Decay”. The book is about a civilizations two types of men ie spiritual man Vs. economic man. Spiritual man is basically represented by the yeoman farmers and related men who actually build a civilization to begin with and give it its foundational spirit. Economic man is the kind of man that represents the rot which comes after ie big financial Jew lowlives and related financial predators slowly going to work and changing everything for the worse to their benefit.
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All in the name of “progress.”
Progressive rape!
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If you don’t like to read that much or want to get even more depressed, try Lothrop Stoddard’s “The Revolt Against Civilization: The Menace of the Under Man”. A very simple, clear explanation of why and how a society goes first communist and then down the drain. Off topic, you might be interested in another of his books, “Into the Darkness: Nazi Germany Today”, and account of his trip to the land of Evil Adolf in 1939, quite a change from the usual ADL approved perspective.
http://www.aryan-nation.org/zog/books/newbooks6_20_08/RevoltAgainstCivilization.pdf
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I don’t think philosophy art and what not are what kills a civilization.
Indeed Socrates thought art created war.
My sense of the decline is a loss of nerve.
I do not discount nose behind the curtain conspiracy either. Much of history is incomprehensible until you look at the role of Jews.
Edward I ejected them from Britain, St. Louis got rid of them from France. It is no coincidence that these two nations then proceeded to build a native middle mass.
However the feminization of a culture is also important. The stock market crashed a year after women were awarded suffrage in the UK. The enfranchisement of females and the run up to ww2 Cohencidence?
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Maybe so, the loss of nerve. And that is probably connected to the value of “each human life” above all else.
Some women do that. Amy, maybe in the last post, makes a comment about saving all those black inner city babies as a reason for continuing welfare. Men would tend to cut them off at some point.
Likewise, men don’t band together to fight for anything any more. Got any exceptions? Is it because we’re too afraid of the idea of death, too much “little princes / princesses” ourselves?
Not saying I am any better in that respect.
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Women’s suffrage was a primary factor in the destruction of our civilization. Civilization is a masculine enterprise; when it gets feminine, it gets fucked.
The cycle of national birth and death is characterized by the ascention of the ladder or prosperity, which is culturally reflected as the ascention of Maslowe’s Hierarchy of Needs; people in the final stage of a civilization face no scarcity of food or comfort, so they indulge in grandiose humanistic moralizing; they are hardly the same species as the men who founded the nation by killing competitors and building homes out of wilderness.
It doesn’t help when this weakening is pushed along by a diabolical media monopoly of Bolshevik Nation Wreckers.
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I recently compared science with philosophy on another board. Someone else had said that both philosophy and science use both logic/math and language. I replied:
Philosophy uses a bit of logic, maybe up to DeMorgan’s theorem, that one that says not (a and b) = (not a) or (not b). And infinite amounts of language trying to relate that to the philosophical question under discussion. Since the real work is done in language, nothing can ever get resolved.
Science uses math, of which logic is a subset, so science has a larger universe of discourse than philosophy. The real work of science is done by empirical observation, and math. Hence, things can be discussed clearly and resolved. The use of “language” is pretty much reserved for people like technical writers who translate scientific findings for a wider (i.e. scientifically incompetent) audience.
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That’s a happy, happy penis.
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The only way to keep a civilization stable is with the constant, universally experienced pain of survival. Because women highly desire to have the pain of survival removed from their existence, and men try to accommodate them, this never happens.
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“pain of survival removed from their existence”
This is why I have said for years it should be legal to spank women, to remind them of reality.
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http://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf
“An increase in the influence of women in
public life has often been associated with national decline.
The later Romans complained that, although Rome ruled the world,
women ruled Rome.”
The decline also had an influx of foreigners attracted to the wealth.
Each superpower only lasts about 250 years or 10 generations.
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Listen dude, after the fail of United States and the European Union, there is no way that humanity will make the same mistake again, as China will have too much advantage over the rest of the world, and they alongside Korea and Japan will never accept extreme feminism nor multiculturalism, and don’t talk about their low birth rate, because in their case is a must to have bigger houses than this
(PSstill I am a bit scared that their elites would do eventually the same though)
[CH: maybe this is all true, but urban, educated chinese women, just like their western sisters, are spending money like gangbusters and not having kids. a temporary, and needed, demographic adjustment? or portent of decline?]
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Amusing. Trying to school the West and ignoring China’s history. A center of wealth and commerce, invaded again and again. The past? Forgetting the last dynasty was Manchurian (a nomadic people from the fringe) and their roots aren’t long ago. Also totally ignoring the “little emperor” syndrome in China, low birth-rate as in extinction in a century for Japan, and the end of interaction between the sexes in Japan and Korea as they flee to the web. A bit behind the curve. Are you a product of the American public education vegetable patch perchance?
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China is not the same as Japan.
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In fact, they are directly antithetical. Japan is (or was, till recently) a civilization built and ruled by warriors. Philosophically, politically, economically and legally, ruled by warriors. That alone makes it one of the most pure from a masculine perspective.
Look at traditional behavior of Japanese women. They were rigorously disciplined from birth to serve their master, and any dalliances could result in death. This led to the most subservient, feminine, and viscerally attractive females in the history of mankind.
Indeed, the Japanese feudal society was one of the most beautiful creations of man. No society in existence has created such masculine society, and as a result, enjoyed the affections of such feminine women.
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Whoosh!! Points being missed all over.
“China is not Japan.” Which is why I identified their issues separately. Take the time to read the comment and note all the points. Never heard of them? Use a search engine, plenty out there.
“Japan is (or was, till recently) a civilization built and ruled by warriors.” Emphasis on was. They are not, as Zombie Shane would say, putting buns in the oven. Hence the extinction point. Also the reference to men and women stopping interaction – no interaction, low chance of children. Without a major shift in their current culture there won’t be a Japanese culture in a century or so. I believe there was even a CH post about it. If not, try Alphagame.
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My guess is that the Japanese will allow a trickle of Chinese and Korean migration.
Possibly some fleeing Brits and Yanks too.
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China had a one child policy, now mostly replaced by two child policy, because Mao Zedong had a hero-mother policy that increased the population from about 400 million to now about 1.3 billion, they are out of space to live and grow food on their homeland.
The preference for families, like most things that were there before the Communists, will survive the political regimes. Already the good families from before the Communists are rising in China, only 50 years or less after they were purged.
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Can’t have families when the system’s been so thoroughly broken. Only the very rich have the money to buy themselves the right for a second child. One child = no siblings = no aunts/uncles = no cousins = no familial ties of any kind, except to the parents. They might be in the process of correcting some of this (having a second child is still difficult) but this loss of family will last over two or three generations.
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Oswald Spengler (Decline of the West – 1918) begs to differ as he traced similar rise-and-fall through many (most?) major historic cultures INCLUDING Confucian Chinese. But perhaps the CCP has indeed repealed human nature.
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Pg. 105
The Ibsen marriage appears, the “higher spiritual affinity” in which both parties are “free” – free, that is, as intellegences, free from the plantlike urge of the blood to continue itself, and it becomes possible for a Shaw(1) to say “that unless Woman repudiates her womanliness, her duty to her husband, to her children, to society, to the law, and to everyone but herself, she cannot emancipate herself”. The primary woman, the peasant woman, is MOTHER. The whole vocation towards which she has yearned from childhood is included in that one word. But now emerges the Ibsen woman, the comrade, the heroine of a whole megalopolitan literature from Northern drama to Parisian novel. Instead of children, she has soul-conflicts; marriage is a craft-art for the achievement of “mutual understanding.” It is all the same whether the case against children is the American lady’s who would not miss a season for anything, or the Parisienne’s who fears that her lover would leave her, or an Ibsen heroine’s who “belongs to herself” – they all belong to themselves and they are all unfruitful. The same fact, in conjunction with the same arguments, is to be found in the Alexandrian [Greek], in the Roman, and, as a matter of course, in every other civilized society…
The father of many children is for the great city a subject for caricature; Ibsen did not fail to note it, and presented it in his Love’s Comedy.
At this level all Civilizations enter upon a stage, which lasts for centuries, of appalling depopulation. The whole pyramid of cultural man vanishes. It crumbles from the summit, first the world-cities, then the provincial forms, and finally the land itself, whose best blood has incontinently poured into the towns, merely to bolster them up awhile. At the last, only the primitive blood remains, alive, but robbed of its strongest and most promising elements. This residue is the Fellah (i.e. – Arab Peasant laborer) type.
(1) The reference is to Shaw’s 1903 play ‘Man and Superman’.
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Okay Ching chong.
Your lot are not desirable or beautiful enough people to be a locus of attention.
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Yawn, do you think American media is it all, and you are stuck with that? not impressed, since I know that Korean media is a success as trending topic in twitter or Google trends in countries such as China, Indonesia, Peru or Arabia ; )
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page 15
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this is on point. wow.
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“The hopeful soul might say that curbing women’s political and cultural leverage can stop the bloodletting; theoretically a possibility, but what are the odds? Better to lounge poolside and enjoy the spectacle of civilization’s enemies shrieking in shiv-peppered pain.”
Except that if you brought innocent children, who didn’t ask to be born, into this world before you discovered the red pill, every day is scary and painful thinking about this information.
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There was plenty of bloodletting before women had any political or cultural leverage, and there’s plenty of it now in third world countries where women have no rights at all. Female influence actually operates to reduce bloodletting, at least initially. Like anything else there’s an optimum “civilization” balance to be achieved; the trick is to find it and keep it.
[CH: that’s not the bloodletting we’re talking about. don’t be so literal-minded, even when you’re trying to score an internet debate point.]
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Amy, just meet my beta ass in real life and I promise my negative attitude will disappear and we can grow old watching netflix and going to concerts together. ;-P
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Stop, you are not beta. I just don’t want you to worry about your kids. The more kids like yours in the world, the less likely everything will fall apart. They’ll be the solution, not the casualties.
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Aaaw that’s sweet.
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I’m not trying to score anything, I thought you were referring to chaos and rioting post global financial crisis and the collapse of fiat currency. Maybe you’re not quite as apocolyptic as JayDC and I am about the fate of the US… which is somewhat comforting. Lol
[CH: the blood that matters is a nation’s character. when that goes, everything follows.]
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Wtf?
Ww2 quite literally started within a decade of universal female franchise.
The backdrop of ww1 was women’s liberation.
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I could be wrong but if memory serves, the war in India in the 1800s only started after British women got involved in that colony.
White /British men and the people of India were getting along fairly well and then the British women had to get involved, they changed a lot of things, it caused a lot of tensions and a bloody war ensued…
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George MacDonald Fraser pointed out through the proxy of Flashman, that the memsahibs really ran the Raj.
He might have been deflecting responsibility but Englishmen do get on jolly well with dusky sexed up Indian women. I dunno if that was a bone of contention with the local men but in India life is cheap and the women at the time must have been cheap enough too.
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Props for Flashman reference.
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Fraser was a Scot – I suspect Director is too. It may count for this unorthodox historicism.
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That is indeed the case. The British women starting taking offense at those men who enjoyed the local women.
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Generally if you marry the local chief’s daughter and have a few grandchildren and import some arms for the fellow to bash his own rivals the Princes and Sultans got on famously with the Adventurers.
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The rani of Jhansi orchestrated the mutiny.
Look it up.
The grease on the bullets is a mcguffin.
The presence of women meant that men wouldn’t intermarry with local princesses and Brahmins.
This is so obvious as to not need reference.
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Almost correct Canadian Friend; the women did stop the English men from fraternising with the Native Indians, but the War (you mean Mutiny of 1857) was a result not of women but the greasing of rifles with Pig grease. Major Colin Campbell came to the rescue of those besieged at Lucknow, the Mutiny was defeated and happiness once again reigned in the sub-continent, which peace continued until some defrocked Barrister decided to be non-violent, after which we let the Indians and Pakis fight it out amongst themselves whilst we enjoyed the 1950s undisturbed.
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That was a mythological cause of the mutiny.
The Queen or Rani of Jansi a province actually staged the rebellion.
Canadian is talking about the wars that Cornwallis and Wellington fought.
Had women not arrived the English would have just been seen as another wave of Aryans to be absorbed and fit into the caste system.
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I heard it was the lard grease too, added to years of escalating religious/cultural tensions. Not surprising after hundreds of years of colonialism and increased annexation. But if anyone has any links that implicate British women in the Indian mutiny, please post.
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Director, How did women stop the English from being fit into the caste system? Women are by nature caste (clique) oriented, men are not so much.
Where would they have fit, anyway? Above, below or beside the Brahmin? It’s a perspective I’ve never considered, nor heard of anyone else considering.
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Family man.
The presence of white memsahibs created the segregation of the English from the Indian.
There is a fairly large Anglo-Indian ethnic group in India.
Sebastian Coe, Nigel Barker and a few others are examples who ended up in the west.
They tend to be quite handsome or pretty looking hybrids.
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The pin head thinks she is an historian!
The Suffragettes were at their most active right before ww1. The franchise was achieved almost everywhere in America and Europe by the mid 1920s. You had Soviet versions of feminism, that probably went much further in the west at the same time as the Holodomir.
The backdrop of both wars and the depredations of the Communists are all intertwined with female empowerment and enfranchisement.
We are so fucking doomed.
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The pin head respectfully directs your attention to most of Africa and the Middle East. These are not exactly matriarchal societies. How safe are they? How many people do you know vacation in Mogadishu? I’m not seeing a lot of female empowerment in Afghanistan, either. Would you characterize that as a country of peace and unity?
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Shut your stupid mouth before I…
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To the moon, Alice!
There are only two men who can shut me up fast, and you aren’t either of them. And FYI if you’re a real alpha… all it takes is a warning look.
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Why isn’t there a bun in your oven yet?
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Afghanistan was peaceful under the Taliban. Now we stepped in and established a government in Kabul, a “loya jirga” but with the innovation of female members. How’s that working out?
OK, it’s not a fair question, the government in Kabul controls nothing outside the city limits.
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Afghanistan was partly justified as a way to get women free.
Bush sold it as World War Feminism.
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Do you really have to try to use the Third World?
Africa is notoriously Matriarchal. The men are just sperm donors.
Afghanistan? Oh smash the patriarchy!
[CH: it’s a false dichotomy anyway. turning back the dumbfuck femcunt clock doesn’t mean turning into a shiekdom with harems and burqas.]
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It’s not like these faggoty Muslims are anything more than mummy’s boys anyway.
I’ve seen a few of the dowagers run their stupid sons ragged.
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“It’s not like these faggoty Muslims are anything more than mummy’s boys anyway.”
Go ahead and call one of them that to their face.
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I’ve shot a few. A few fist fights in the old town too.
Bunch of cunts mainly.
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Shooting a bunch of underequipped Afghan insurgents while having an entire army in your back doesn’t count you faggot.
Weren’t you the slimeball that claimed he would shove pork into muslims gullets?
Don’t talk shit you cannot back up on the internet you degenerate little cockroach.
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Meet me on the Cowley Road in Oxford outside Bullingdon Arms.
Bring your best Pakis.
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sub saharan african societies aren’t matriarchal?
eh? you hit ur head? matriarcial societies are DEFINED by their chaos.
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the women “run” what the men ALLOW them to.
It “looks good”, but men are still in charge.
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u need a refresher course in r/K
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U need you clit removed
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A compelling correlation. You have established “Granger causality” i.e. one thing tends to come after some other thing, which is the most you can get from statistics.
But do you have a logical cause-and-effect about why they are intertwined? It seems to me that they are both expressions of Communism / Frankfurt School — the emancipation of women, and the overturning of the old political order in Europe.
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The Frankfurt school is part of it.
It’s worth noting that the British Empire collapses within a decade of female emancipation. This certainly fits the narrative of “feminization”.
Not that the assault from Germany wasn’t important.
It’s hard to ignore the inverse relationship with increasing female voting power and the rather abrupt ending to the British Empire.
Let’s look at Germany. Imperial System, but it also contains a fairly good Parliament and social democracy. The internal infrastructure of Germany is largely unaffected by ww1. I think women get the vote in the early twenties and we see them decline into hyperinflation and a series of communist rebellions.
Hitler puts the females back in the kitchen and the situation improves. Admittedly he overreached with Moscow/Barbarossa but you can’t say that he didn’t revive German power in the process.
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No, indeed, Hitler and Mao Zedong had this in common. They started as heroes, real genuine heroes. They they deteriorated with their hands still on the levers of power, costing their respective countries.
Mao’s errors were more of the unforced variety. Mao was brilliant under pressure, then when he got to retreat to his bedroom and have concubines come and visit him one after another, his decision making deteriorated.
Hitler was always under pressure especially after the US entry into the war, and the slightest miscalculation could lose it for it him. He made a miscalculation.
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” Female influence actually operates to reduce bloodletting, at least initially. Like anything else there’s an optimum “civilization” balance to be achieved; the trick is to find it and keep it.”
Have any evidence? History says otherwise. The stories of women denying sex to their men unless they stop fighting are simply that. Stories. The truth is that men coming home victorious from battle has always been a turn on for women. The point of this thread is that the influence of women has destroyed the parts of society that would decrease the coming devastation, or at least done its best to destroy the interest of men in doing so. Too many years of feminist influence has created a society that echoes Louis XV. Apres moi, le deluge.
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It’s the other way around, Amy. The more women in politics, the worse the murder. Women are naturally fascists/communists and they vote Democrat….and the 20th century, the Age of Leftist/Democrat Mass Murder (200 million dead) didn’t happen until women were given the vote. How does it feel to belong to a sex that destroys everything it touches?
You might want to look up Elizabeth Báthory…the worst serial killer in history was a woman.
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I agree that there is a deep intertwined relationship between total war and female emancipation.
The Allies for example, they put women in the factory. The soviets put them in the factory and on the field.
The Germans didn’t. Thus a savage Mongolian horde got to rape the civilized part of Europe.
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“How does it feel to belong to a sex that destroys everything it touches?”
Bob… Jesus wept with these exaggerations. So now women are responsible for every mass murder dating back to the 20th century because we tend to vote Democratic? Interesting theory. Do you have any proof other than telling us x caused y because x came first?
And who cares about Elizabeth Bathory? I never said women aren’t capable of murder. Lots of strawman arguments and demonization today. Look, you could always go live in a monastery if women offend you so much with their annihilative malevolence. It’s no skin off my nose. I’ll be out in the real world with the rest of the cute girls getting hit on by the other 99% men who manage to find us tolerable.
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this conversational thread is getting real stupid real fast.
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If you hate imperialism there’s always Elizabeth I in Ireland or Victoria in Africa and India.
Not to mention Boudicca, Zenobia etc etc…
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..yes..literally “hit on,”…as in getting punched in the face….
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I think the common thread here is Communism, of which modern Feminism is a subset.
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Look look over there!
Communism? Partly true, but the high priests of communism are invariably Jewish.
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So long as we’re being literal, don’t think that women are any less capable of it. From time to time certain women will talk in happy tones about how, we would live in Peaceful, Utopian, Egalitarian Societies with Fresh Air, Rainbows and Butterflies for Everyone, if only WOMEN ruled the world!
The reality would go more like this:
France would invade England and England would ring up and say, “Hi, France? This is England….why are you invading me?”
And France would reply, “OH, I THINK YOU *KNOW* WHY!!!”
The female of the species is more deadly than the male….
À bientôt,
Mistral
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I see how this works.
Feminists go to the extremes writing women into the war narratives and the get to have their cake and eat it too by denying any significant role in said wars when lobbying to corner even more power.
Fuck you Amy.
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“Female influence actually operates to reduce bloodletting, at least initially.”
Except for abortions and “let’s him and you fight” induced bar brawls I guess.
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Anyone ever heard of Anne Carroll?
This bitch doomed the Confederacy.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Ella_Carroll
If the significance of her battle strategy is reliably accounted for you have a busy body bitch hatching a plan to end white supremacy.
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Would you have had kids if you discovered the red pill before?
I’m torn with this shit. I love family and kids, and I may very well find a half decent wife (call me naive), but at the same time I can’t imagine bringing innocent souls into this insanity.
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Really tough to answer. I love my kids so much. No one who is not a father can understand. (My childless spinster ex GF would call that “smug.”) I can’t imagine them not being here, now, but yeah….. I suffer enormous stress every waking second worrying about them and the future.
Also I was divorce thefted so I pay for two homes. I pay for the “right” to see my kids LESS than I want to. So to the extent the US dollar does not collapse and things generally stay about like they are, I’m still stressed because even absent total collapse my ex wife has been allowed by the state to waste about $150,000 of the kids’ future wealth so far….paying for two homes).
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I was young n dumb, full of cum.
That’s how nature makes us around 18-25.
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I’ve lucked out, it’s been a rocky ride but I’ve not been served yet.
And yes, I would do it again. I think I’ve already succeeded, I already have two children in my image, who will always be that way and know me, even if I disappeared tomorrow.
I had kids late. I’d already done everything else, to a close enough approximation. Either done it, had an idea what it would feel like, knew it would be way too expensive and not worth it, or too scared to try (ex. high wire walking, being one of those guys who builds tall buildings and bridges, etc.)
The argument about bringing kids into this horrible world doesn’t work for me. I am not trying to kill myself, I don’t see other people trying to kill themselves, we can get something out of life even if the world sucks in ways that we cannot fix.
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The future belongs to those who show up. Red Pill men are the most critical to future generations and have to come from somewhere.
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It is very difficult to find a woman who is suitably young, thin, and pretty who is willing to have kids today. Trust me. Y’all would call me beta and of course it is beta to give off any signals that one might actually want to have a serious relationship that eventually leads to kids.
99% of white, thin, high IQ (women can be high IQ while still possessing the womanly qualities we all know and love) women who would make good kids are thoroughly “all in” on the Puffed Ho advice, which is to ride the cock carousel from age 19-36 and *then*, finally, look for a beta husband.
It is VERY difficult to find a genetically suitable woman to give one kids while she’s still younger than 28.
I’ve been trying for 5 years now since my divorce. I already have 2 kids (that I got from a South American who was traditional before the divorce fantasy was taught to her here in the US), but I want more.
The ones I want are not into me. So you and the other put-bun-in-oven guys….are you boomers? If so, you truly have not experienced the world we Gen X and Y men 39 and younger have experienced.
Thinking back, it really started in the 80s. When I was in elementary school. We were already seeing the favoritism of girls in school, which as GBFM points out is feminine. More valedictorians are girls even though none of them can do math, etc.
Admittedly I live in a big city. I guess if I lived in a flyover state I could find a nice country girl? I don’t know but I’m stuck here now. My kids are here.
It takes two to tango in the absence of rape. Girl must be willing to get pregnant AND then keep the baby.
By the way, I and many betas could get a fatty 4 I guess, but I want an 8 to give me more kids and I deserve it. I’ve done my part in life getting to where I am in my career and financially….and I’m a nice (but not “too nice niceguy” to boot.
My kids are very smart and thin (proud father everyone says that but it’s true)…because I’m athletic and my ex wife is also thin and smart (she has high intelligence). They kick ass and are easily 95th percentile.
My ex GF the spinster is like 140 IQ, 5’7″, super awesome ballerina body….creamy skin, perfect pink nipples, long legs, blue eyes…would have passed on great genes. She is a perfect example of a Gen X childless spinster whose hamster has convinced her that she’s happier being childless and fucking around being an artist in NYC. It’s sad.
She’s not alone. She is literally the SWPL CH writes about. CH agrees with me. The “smart” white girls are overwhelmingly SWPL and part of that religion is reading Puffed Ho and similar garbage *religiously* and part of the doctrine of the SWPL religion, literally, is that pretty, thin women should ride the cock carousel from age 19-34, be unapologetic about it, and then look for her husband by 35 or 37. This is not hyperbole or exaggeration. That is LITERALLY something they strongly believe in. It’s not happening accidentally.
You are seen by the SWPL crowd as a fucking cave man if you suggest a woman should actually be married and have her first kid by 27. They see that as absolutely preposterous, let alone correct, as that means she’s jumping off of the cock carousel and robbing herself of “fun fun fun me me me martini” time a full 6 years early.
If you see a pretty white woman younger than 27 or even 32, there is a 99% chance that is how she thinks. And what they think matters. That they don’t agree with CH’s correct assertion that 25 is past expiration date matters.
Don’t give me this BS “if you were more alpha” if you are a boomer or older. Just as I wasn’t there to experience the struggles of the 60s and 70s, you simply have not experienced the life a 39 year old man today has had….our entire lives starting with elementary school there has been this “worship of the great female” and our women have absorbed it, seriously.
Look around you. It’s not me. Look at women today aged 30-40 — the tats, the attitude, the cats, the unmarried status (either never married or divorced by their choice).
I won’t do it anymore, but if you go on match.com and read their profiles, it’s enlightening and disheartening to an extreme level. They truly don’t understand let alone take any responsibility for the choices they’ve made. They put their ignorance and lack of accomplishment of anything in life on full, proud display. I would be fun and funny to read and laugh at their profiles if one were not actually trying to find a decent women to become the mother of his kids.
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Yep, following is destination when Sulu sets the course.
http://www.georgetakei.com/WEDDING.asp
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[…] “The Civilization-Womanization Graph”, and […]
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I wanted to get rich for selfish reasons. Now I want to get rich to finance a new country, modeled on The Constitution and The Bill of Rights.
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Hopefully you can do better than the US Constitution, which was written by the lobbyists of their day (landowners, slaveowners, tax collectors) for their own benefit with enough lip service paid to “liberty” to fool people who don’t read carefully. Article 1, Section 8 gives the govt carte blanche to steal regardless of individual liberty or property rights.
A good Constitution would include some form of FA Hayek’s “hard and fast” rules protecting individual life, liberty, and property. Without that, it’s just a matter of time until political weapons make the country communist.
Have you looked at any of the seasteading projects?
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I did say ‘modeled’ not cloned. I don’t have near enough wealth to self-secede from America.
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Come help me take over Patagonia and form a new English language country built on traditional western values. White immigration only, of course, but may let a few vibrant women in for some strange.
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The Constitution was induced by England and maybe also France, that wanted to collect their war debts. (Odd that we owed war debts to England which we supposedly defeated …)
The Articles of Confederation, since they did not establish a central government, gave those creditors nobody to demand payment from.
The Constitution, by contrast, established a “more perfect union” that was way more perfect as far as creditors are concerned. It contains a clause saying the debts would be paid. The 14th Amendment perfects that further, saying the debt shall not even be questioned.
A “constitutor” for a debt is someone from whom you demand payment. Etymology anyone?
Why do you want to establish a government in the model of a business corporation with pre-established creditors? Why not go for one like the Articles, which is what most of the Colonists thought they were fighting for (perhaps some who signed both the Declaration and 13 years later the Constitution knew the plan all along.)
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you got tricked by the white man.
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Please, we all know who’s behind feminism, let’s stop pretending this is just all a coincidence.
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It’s a cohensidence.
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sweet.
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you mean the i-l-l-u-m-i-n-a-t-i
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..why yes…the devil is
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No.. not the devil, per se.. http://www.joyofsatan.org
(The root word Devi hints to our more divine origins.)
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the reason i don’t see the fall-off so steep is this: the fed has now been signaling since the crash of 08-09 that it will inflate it’s way out of this to whatever extent possible. it will do everything in its power to facilitate the ‘soft landing scenario’. our country will never take the proper dosage of the medicine we’d need to hit bottom ASAP, that we might build anew. so it’ll be a painstakingly endless gradual decline whereby any future generation will be awarded with living standards just a plateau below the previous generation.
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This. Yes, the inflation created by QE Infinity hurts wealthy people just a little bit, but they have a massive cushion so they hardly feel it. Inflation doesn’t affect Uncle Samantha teat-sucklers because all they gibs are indexed to inflation, or at least the fake low inflation reported by Uncle Samantha herself. But the middle class gets the shiv because they earn actual paychecks not indexed to inflation, plus they don’t have the massive cush that rich folks have. So the intended affect of QE Infinity is to decimate or even destroy the middle class and turn everyone into serfs.
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You are a Kulak.
If you have a paycheck and a car and a house you are a grasping peasant fit for Siberia.
Give your property to a Sheboon with a brood of honor stoodints.
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QE helps the rich at the expense of everyone else. It’s driven this massive inflation in assets (greater than the housing bubble, it seems), allowed connected banksters to expropriate whole industries, even purchase massive amounts of real estate (which are then rented to section 8 tenants.)
Meanwhile, if we’d actually allowed the market to crash as it should have, the initial pain would have been as intense, but by now we’d’ve come out of it, and younger people would find affordable homes to buy (and get divorce-raped on 20 years later), as well as full-time work.
But, hey, Warren Buffet got paid, so that’s what really matters.
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BS. There are unique situations for the US that foreshadow a decline more spectacular than that of any civilization in history:
– its currency is used as the reserve currency for nations all over the world
– it has multiple enemies who possess weapons of mass destruction
The fed inflating its way out of recession devalues the dollar & pisses off those foreign countries that use it as their reserve. So they’ll band together & decide to dump the dollar and replace with other currencies to be used as their reserve. Some countries have already started doing this, and many others are having meetings to discuss this away from the prying ears of Americans. They’re talking about a “basket” reserve currency made up of several currencies from China, India, Japan, Europe, the middle East, etc. Once that happens, the global demand for the US Dollar will plummet. With its demand decreasing, its value will also decrease dramatically, and the USA itself will experience hyper-inflation. The silver lining would be the high cost of imports might inspire the US to manufacture things domestically again, but that might be a splash in the bucket compared to the tidal wave of civil unrest that comes with a severly declining standard of living and isolation from resources.
Americans themselves are too unprincipled to deal with such a crisis in a manly, courageous fashion. They’ll turn on each other faster than you can say Jackie Robinson. Look at the riots during relatively-minor natural disasters. Imagine the violence & chaos if the whole country was instantly poorer. I don’t want to be poolside enjoying the decline, I want to be far away.
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Correct regarding ‘unique situations’.
However, the tenuous global reserve currency status notwithstanding, consider other factors as well.
-Virtually all ‘1st world nations’ are welfare states. Switzerland, Japan, perhaps 1-2 others – somewhat less so, but they too have ‘safety net’.
-The Euro is on track to be worth less than the dollar. Worse welfare state morass. No will to stop annexing parasitic Eastern bloc states.
-Tenuousness of dollar as remaining global reserve currency already somewhat priced into its comparative valuation on global FX markets
-Considerable improvement in living standards, technological infrastructure in ‘2nd world’ over last 10-20 years (I’ve seen the difference in several Latin American countries recently vs. just 8 years ago).
-Even 3rd world countries seeing dramatic improvement in living standards. Parts of Nepal e.g. are almost unrecognizable from 10 years ago. It’s being built up fast.
In sum – yes we’ll see a decline – but I certainly don’t see the US plummeting beneath the 2nd/3rd world countries on their way up. Not in my lifetime.
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Hm, which LatAm countries are looking good now? I may want to retire there, some equatorial country where the climate is fantastic if you live at 3-4000 feet elevation. A place where they grow coffee. Coffee requires a fabulous climate year around.
I visited Venezuela about 10 years ago and desipte the obvious political issues I was intrigued with idea of living there. Well those political issues have obviously gotten worse not better but what else looks promising?
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Medellin, Colombia delivers what you’re asking for. But you better speak good Spanish + have Third World-level street smarts. I’m even more watchful in Medellin than I am in Phnom Penh or Manila.
And the paisa women are simply unmatched. Unless you’re a pussy, of course. You’ll find pieces of clueless gringo beta males in their poop.
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I would not buy private property in Venezuela or Bolivia. Militant leftism threatens your continued ‘ownership’ of it, even if paid free and clear.
Brazil and Chile have had a prosperous 10 years, marked by fairly responsible governance.
If it were me, and contradicting myself somewhere as it’s scarily unstable – I’d wait for Argentina to crash and burn (default) again, then take advantage of rock bottom prices and move there. But that is due to my love of the lifestyle and culture and women there. For my money – best in the world.
Uruguay is just like a mini-Argentina and not nearly as unstable.
For coffee specifically – yeah Columbia as driveallnight said, another option would be Nicaragua/El Salvador. Those are more ‘3rd world’ though.
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Women are competing for jobs but are not creating them. Though men shank me and insult me, only men provide me with opportunity. Women can only insult me and deprive me of opportunity. Only men, and only a small fraction of them, take the risks that create industry and opportunity. Women can only serve as mere functionaries in man-created structures. When an organization becomes feminized, priority shifts from efficient and profitable production of goods and services to development of labyrinthine rules for the comfort and security of women. Ossification and organizational death are inevitable.
Peter Drucker, in his famous essay Managing Oneself, advised strongly the need to understand your strengths and weaknesses, and observed that you can never win by improving your weaknesses, only by improving your strengths. In broader socio-economic terms, we have given women the opportunity to build on their weaknesses (ability to compete against men) and discouraged them from capitalizing on their strengths (youth and fertility). They compete through artifices of fairness and inclusion that are borne on the backs of an ever-dwindling pool of male supporters. We have weakened society as a whole by building on women’s weaknesses in attempts to make them the equal of men, rather than encouraging them in their natural strengths. And while this charade is going on, men are encouraged to adopt feminine attitudes and lifestyles at the expense of their own natural strengths, now deemed unnecessary in the new gender-neutral economy.
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This is interesting.
Western imperialism virtually halts the moment that women get the vote (or are about to).
We were busy filling up Australia, America, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa with our seed.
Then it stops. The white man then fights two fratricidal wars in the homeland.
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So True. Imagine if Albion’s seed spread to all the continents. There would’ve been more of us than Han Chinese
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You’re right.
And now we have so many cross-referenced laws and governing bodies we can’t get an extra square inch at any cost. Everyone is utterly shocked that Russia retook the little Crimean Peninsula that’s always been theirs anyway.
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COT Thread?
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It’s my standard comment that gets me banned from progressive-dialogue webzines like Atlantic and Salon.
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Yes, COT Thread was referring to the comment by the commenter known as elmer. The thread doesn’t appear to reflect that.
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“The women’s suffrage movement is only the small edge of the wedge, if we allow women to vote it will mean the loss of social structure and the rise of every liberal cause under the sun. Women are well represented by their fathers, brothers, and husbands.”
– Winston Churchill
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“you can never win by improving your weaknesses, only by improving your strengths.”
I don’t know about this. Say a person is a terrible public speaker. Does this mean they are better off finding a figurehead than learning how to improve their public speaking?
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Public speaking is a required skill, like knowing how to wipe your own ass.
We’re talking native talents that one should recognize and develop from honest personal assessment with an eye on the competition and marketplace.
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Ah. I’ve always wondered what makes the better society: Renaissance people or capitalists.
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Most people are bad at public speaking because of fear and lack of practice, not because of a natural weakness in their speaking ability.
And public speaking is a medium that can communicate a persons other skills, whether it be engineering, politics or humor. So it’s not that someone would need to improve their public speaking skills to the point of being a professional public speaker on any topic, but to improve their ability to communicate on their domain of knowledge would add benefit.
I feel like I could go on trying to explain this… but you are a woman, and if you can’t figure it out on your own you’ll probably never figure it out. So… go make me a sandwich.
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Go buy the bread.
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Bake the bread, wench.
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If he brings home the bacon, I guess its the yeast I can do 🙂
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Women are competing for jobs but are not creating them.
Very good point.
We have had several decades of womyn’s studies programs and womyn’s commissions, and what have they produced? Slut marches. Vagina monologing. Potemkin village affirmative action programs.
But nothing which expands the industrial or technological base.
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can’t find it now but whoever just posted this:
http://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf
this is on point. everyone needs to read this now.
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“The White Man has lost control of his woman, and therefore his race is doomed.”
Quote from me, 1978.
Upon returning to America and witnessing what had been destroyed in the preceding 10 years.
I never thought it would happen so fast, though.
Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
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I didn’t know Gloria was sick
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I don’t get the graph. It suggests that civilization increases at a faster rate as womanization increases. There is a low level of civilization until we hit a substantial level of womanization. In other words, this graph suggests that we depend on a high degree of womanization to have much civilization at all.
Seems like the curve should have a steeply postive slope at the beginning, which levels off and then a very abrupt switch to a steep negative slope.
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There is a series of Sci-Fi books, in these books there was a civilization that solved this problem by breeding consciousness out of the female of the species. I think it was the Kzinti (Sp?) from some set of books by Larry Niven. Smart Dude!
There his another set of books, the Gorr series I think? That has a LOT to say about how to treat women 🙂
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John Norman wrote the Gor novels. He’s still alive, and his books sold, but the feminists who took over publishing in the ’80s killed his line off. Best his agent could do was get him w/ a smutty book publisher (Masquerade I believe it was.)
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the penis is content
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[…] By CH […]
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“Woe to any man when death approaches him, to the strong man when he becomes weak, or to him who loses his sight; but woe to the whole generation which is ruled by a woman.”–Mid. Psalms 22.
White people would do well to study the Torah, the Midrash and the Talmud.
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Good lord, between the article and its unspeakable truth… then the great letters… it’s almost too much! Where is THAT world I want to live in?!
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Showed my girlfriend … “What’s CERN?”
Looking for a new one needless to say. A
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Not gonna lie: that was funny.
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Check this out, the latest in high school emasculation – promposals! Yes, guys must nearly make a proposal of marriage for the kind consideration of spending a fortune on some chick that he’ll never see again:
http://news.yahoo.com/kids-now-prom-153246662.html
Perhaps just as interesting, one’s sense of incredulity does ever wear out.
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In the world of the Gold Collar, men still serve the role in the philosophical circles of engaging territories of thought once considered dangerous. They become the “hunter” of the intellectual domain. Moreover, they become the “expendable” character of failure, like the juvenile hunter who accrues scars from the hunt. Now, given information-as-a-threat to mental health, men are expected to risk the harmony of their mental edifice so to enrich the community to which their role is defined, all the more rigidly. Women are able still to isolate and disseminate such knowledge, assuming the Alpha is manageable.
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Or the “manufactured nihilist.” You, CH, very much fit this archetype of post-classical categories.
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Somehow I cannot see the womanization of the Islamic world. On the other hand, their efforts at civilisation building is not very impressive for the last 800 years or so.
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[…] Put away your history textbooks, this is the only graph you’ll ever need to consult for an explanation why civilizations rise, plateau, and fall. […]
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Like biological death, civilizational death is unavoidable, an emergent property of collective human nature.
Sure, but its inhabitants need not die with it. In fact, it presents a great opportunity to reinvent Western culture and enjoy the benefits of other inventive and hard working white people other places. I’m talking about micro states made on international legal ground or deals for leasing land, agreements etc. And also agreements for leasing or living agreements territories with powers like China (Hong Kong, Macao, Singapore), who welcome non decadent, non feminized men, because that’s what they are too. Even if we are culturally and genetically different, Chinese, Asians, all non whites have a strong common interest in not letting the harpies among their own steal the fruits of their labour and sour the relationship between men and women. Feminism is a cancer that exists on the creativity and labour of men. Once the host state dies, the feminist cancer dies with it. Let lesbians build their own houses and drive trucks at five times the normal accident rate, let’s see how that man free civilisation works.
The beauty of men moving to non-Western states with low income taxes is that it will force everyone involved, including Western states, to change to compete over the most desirable men. And this can only be done by separating the non productive feminist/harpy elements from leeching off resources through goverment funded activities and having and kind of media dominance. As of the moment, Western states have a pretty good oligarchy, but it’s falling apart. But we don’t need to fall with it.
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More nails in the coffin of the “unequal pay” myth:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303663604579503800504978432?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303663604579503800504978432.html&fpid=2,7,121,122,201,401,641,1009
More education doesn’t necessarily lead to greater earning power, but in most U.S. cities, single, childless women under 30 now make more money than their male peers, according to analysis by Reach Advisors, a research firm. Across all social classes, women contribute 47% of household income, reports the Carsey Institute at the University of New Hampshire. And most strikingly, Pew has found that in 24% of marriages, women earn more than their husbands, up from 6.2% in 1960.
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An interesting thought, that WWII was caused by female suffrage.
A lot of German women voted for Hitler. At election time the Nazis considered branding him “der schöne Adolf” to capitalize on his attractiveness to women.
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Women have much lower IQ’s than civilization builders, so what you are really seeing is civilization being taken over by morons. When times are tough, the masses of morons acquiesce power to the best, and when life gets easy, the masses of morons use their safety to take power back. Kind of like a car; an adult drives on the freeway and the children won’t bother asking to drive out of fear, but put them in a parking lot and the children will have no problem trying to drive. Emphasis on trying.
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