Here’s a conversation I had with a girl on the night we met. Some details have been redacted to protect the devilish.
Little Lord Lucifer: Go over there and do [X] for me.
Girl: And what would I get out of that?
Little Lord Lucifer: My approval.
Girl: (waits a beat, audibly snorts) Your approval! What does that even mean?
Little Lord Lucifer: It means exactly what it sounds like.
Twenty seconds of me warmly smiling and her accusing me of being “full of it” and “a psycho” elapse. Suddenly, she looks at me with widened eyes, her mouth opens a little, she cocks her head, and gets up to do [X]. She returns, mission accomplished.
Girl: (with feigned deference) Did I perform to your expectations, oh great one?
Little Lord Lucifer: Yes. Thanks. I approve.
Girl: (sarcastically) Oh, I am SO relieved to be in your good graces!
***
Now, there’s a couple sociosexual dynamics going on here. There’s the obvious one that she did the thing I asked of her. Sarcastic intent notwithstanding to the contrary, I raised a hoop and she jumped through it. All that her consent required was my rock-solid frame and confidence that she would do it. Overconfidence is the heart of game.
Two, even when humorous or sarcastic intent guides a woman’s compliance — as if she was role-playing for the amusement of both of you — the physical motions of going through with the request will generate real feelings in her of slightly lower value and submission to a higher value man. This phenomenon is like the inverse of power poses, where instead of elevating one’s confidence and self-assurance through behavioral cues, one evokes feelings of submission and deference through “powerlessness poses.”
All of this psychological legerdemain acts on the abacus of subconscious mate evaluation. PUAs call it subcommunication, and it’s a powerful, if mischievous, means of strengthening attraction in women.

As one of the baby steps I’m taking in recovery from pedestalizing beta male nice guy provider I ask girls to do little things for me every chance I get. They always do it. It’s slowly becoming habit. In particular when I’m taking pictures I always give some kind of direction to the girls in the group, just to watch them obey. Baby steps…
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it’s a good habit, i try to do it with the girlfriends even though internally i feel like i shouldn’t be so demanding.
btw if you’re taking photos you better be in the photos or in the girl at the time.
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I’m sort of the group photographer. My camera is an inexpensive digital but looks like an SLR; it makes me look professional and the girls really respond to it. And, yes, I get some pics with the girls and put the best ones on my blog or FB for what little social proof it may afford me.
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I don’t know if it counts. My best pickup line is, “hold Delilah for me. I gotta go sing,” when I bring my dog to a karaoke bar near my place on the water. It’s not that much of a favor, though, ‘cuz she’s 10 pounds of furry rescued awesomeness, and there’s no shortage of takers. What’s funny is when other women see you doing that, and they’re like, “subtle.” But they always smile in their disapproval.
Good tip and will do more.
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did it ever result in banging one of the dog holders that night, or ever?
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Never. Holding a dog = holding your strapon.
Yikes
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lzlzozoz omzgz zlzlozozlzolzoz
dA GBFM MATRIXZ
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2014/04/10/da-gbfm-matrix-lzozozl-i-can-show-you-the-way-neo-but-you-will-have-to-walk-it-zlozlzlzozzlozlzlzo-zozozlzlz-the-more-you-read-da-gbfm-and-heariste-the-more-your-life-will-improve-as-you-come-to-se/
da GBFM MATRIX: lzozozl i can show you the way, neo, but you will have to walk it zlozlzlzozzlozlzlzo zozozlzlz the more you read da GBFM and heariste the more your life will improve as you come to see the fiat churchian gamey dalrock butthex matrix for what it is
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DE STEPZ TO BEING LIKE DE GFBMZ:
1) TYPEOZ
2) LZLZOLOZLOZL
3) Make fun of Darlock in every other paragraph
4) Use “Bernakified” at least 4 times a week
5) Encourage people to read boring works of fiction like de beta biblez which has betafied more men than the leftoids.
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Preston is a case study as to why
As a Man
your Natural Rights
and Freedom
and Liberty
and Happiness
are disappearing
up
Preston’s
gaping binghozzzizzlizozl, where
he is
shoving them
gleefully.
lzozoooozo
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Along with his pretty floral jizz-socks.
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The reason that family values haven’t persisted from the ‘good ol’ days’ (TM) – in addition to feminism – is because they’ve always had tenuous religious reasons to justify them rather than the type of scientific bases which CH, Rollo, and J4G offer.
Science and the secular-right will be around long after Christianity is little more than a fringe cult.
Religion is a lie GFBM. Let it golozlozlozlzol
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Dalrock writes, “The reason that family values haven’t persisted from the ‘good ol’ days’ (TM) – in addition to feminism – is because they’ve always had tenuous religious reasons to justify them rather than the type of scientific bases which CH, Rollo, and J4G offer.
Science and the secular-right will be around long after Christianity is little more than a fringe cult.
Religion is a lie GFBM. Let it golozlozlozlzol”
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“5) Encourage people to read boring works of fiction like de beta biblez which has betafied more men than the leftoids.”
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GENESIS 3:16:
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
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And HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE! That is game squared right there. Mr. Dalrox does the service of exposing the weak milktoast game of the effeminate semi-right, but nothing ever comes to his mind of the feebleminded progressive that roots at the feet of the “Bernakified” sluts. It really is quite disgusting to witness the lies by omission.
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zlzlozoz yes!!!
dalrock’s lies by omissionz!!!
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/the-center-and-circumference-of-christian-civilization-is-virgin-wives-who-serve-and-honor-god-over-dalrockasz-butt-and-gina-tingzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo-a-brief-history-of-christian-civilization/
The Center and Circumference of Christian Civilization is Virgin Wives Who Serve and Honor God Over Dalrocka’sz Butt and Gina TIngzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo & A brief history of Christian Civilization:
The Center and Circumference of Christian Civilization is Virgin Wives Who Serve and Honor God Over Dalrocka’sz Butt and Gina TIngzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo & A brief history of Christian Civilization:
The Center and Circumference of Christian Civilization is Virgin Wives Who Serve and Honor God Over Butt and Gina TIngzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo
A brief history of Christian Civilization:
EXODUS 20: And God spake all these words to Moses, saying,
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
GENESIS 3:16:
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Matthew 5:17
Jesus: Think not that I am come to destroy the law of Moses, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Dalrock 2012-2014: Christians must man up and learn GAME* so as to serve butt and gina tinzgzlzlzlzozoz as Jesus came to abolish the law of Moses. Also, Christians must man up and never, ever read a GReat Book for Men, nor quote them either, but only castigate and impugn the Great Books For Men, as reading them does not serve women’s butt and gina tingsallzlzozolzozzzlzozozozozoz, while wearing furry hats and negging them does. Every night, after gaming one’s wife so as to keep her from stealing teh children, and/or fornicating with women, one must kneel before the church of Dalrock and state, “Homer was a Pagan, but Dalrock, the great emperor, forgives us for our gamey gamez and fofnicationz and buttehtsthzt, for Dalrock is great and good, and the one,true, way, while Homer and Virgil are Pagans and Jesus came to abolish the Law of Moses.” lzozozlzlo
*The word Game can mean anything at any time. For in the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was good, and the Word was God, but now, I, Dalrock, dictate that My Words can mean anything at any time. So man up and get used to my Marxist march of deconstruction through our institutions, and the rule of da butt and gina tingzzlzlzolzolozoz.
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I ❤ bible study group with de GFBMz
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yesz! dalrock’s lies by omissionz!
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/the-center-and-circumference-of-christian-civilization-is-virgin-wives-who-serve-and-honor-god-over-dalrockasz-butt-and-gina-tingzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo-a-brief-history-of-christian-civilization/
The Center and Circumference of Christian Civilization is Virgin Wives Who Serve and Honor God Over Dalrocka’sz Butt and Gina TIngzzlzlzlzlzoozzozozo & A brief history of Christian Civilization:
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zozoz DA GBFM IS GIFTED ARTISTIC!!! I am whatever u say i am lzozozozozo lzozozoozozzl omg lzozozozozozozzooz
lzozozozzo
DA GBFM AM NOT AN ASPYZZ!!!!!
lzozozoz
when i was littlez in school
dey put me in a class for
da gifted artisticz studentz
only on the door to da classroom
the IDITOSZ misspleessledz artisiticz as
autisticz
lzozozozozozozozo
the dumb dummmy fuckersz couldn’t diststuguish
between an r and a u
so da gbfm said
ru fukcing stooooopid!! R U!!!!
and da gbfm got snet to da assitantz princicpelsz officez
lozozzoz when i was in third gradezz i axsked my teacher, “what is da federal resevre?”
she sent me to da princicple!
so i asked him, “is it federal? is it a governemnt entity? is it a reserve? does it actaully have any moneyz or does it just create debts an dbruened da eoplz taxpayer with them lzozzlzoz?”
he sent me to the uspeirnetdenient
so i asked himz “what gives them the moreal authorty to crate out of thin air that whihc i must labor for, and give it to tehir firendz to deocnstruct westetern civilzizioaatonz?”
he send me to the chool nurse who prescievedbed me ritalaizinz and addeoeorloozlzozl lotass pillz lzozlzl for asking stooooopid quetsuzonzznz znzozlololzo
so i aske dteh nurse, “how is it that the cenrtal bank can create debt out of thin air and den cgahagr inetrest on it funding wars and fmeinsisnzmz and bostionrtoonz? and aborititonz? and why do christians never speak out agianst abortion, nor sosodomy, nor the detah of marriage and fatherhood? Why do chcistians instead kneel down before game, as if moisisntening buttcocked womenz’ gina walls is the greatest glory higher dan chirst ieven? lzozlzlozoozo?”
and the school nurse injected me with a ritalin addeorlloololzolzoz cocktail
and it felt good goodd godod and made me go lzozozozlzozlzl all dayz longz zlzlzlzoozlz
and ever since den
i talked like thiss and shsook and shaked when i typex d zlllzozlzozl as i get eixicieted dat i see and hear and see thingsz that noboy else see nor hears
for tehy are of little fiath lzozlloz
but jesus jeusus he saves me
and tellz me dat while the gamerz win on erth in moisuienetig da ssoccked buttcoked women’z gina wallsz with tehir lies and decpetions and degradgations
christ tells me dat my ideas win
in his kingdom of ideealz idealz
and dat is da story of da GBFM
since yu akeskekd lzozozlozz
have a niczozoe day!! lzozlzolzoz
i am with oyuyo alwlaolzlzlzozlzzlzooaalayayzzlozzlozzlzo
me and ross douthathyt zlzolzoozozo
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I was with you on 1=4. Not 5.
In case it is the source of confusion, 5 is not the same as “going to church” and letting a “pastor” select a couple lines from Paul’s letters to some people even more clueless than he was, out of context, and spin a sermon around it. It’s more like the opposite.
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The Difference Between Dalrock / Vox (Christianity=butt & gina tingzlzoozoz not Moses/Jesus) and Heartistes (Christianity requires women to act in a Christian manner) & Great Men on the Great Books for Men!
The Difference Between Dalrock and Heartistes & Great Men on the Great Books for Men!
While Heartiste understands that the true Christian context hath been destroyed and that game is one of the only ways to survive with women until things change, Dalrock wants to replace the true Christian context with gamey gamezlzlzozo, which is why he stipulates that “Christians need game,” as opposed to stating, “Christians need Christ who came to Fulfill the Law of Moses (Which Dalrock falsely teaches that Christ came to abolish).” Because women have violated the Christian contract by leading with their butt and gina tinzgzlzlzozz and fornicatiinzg instead of following God, Man, and Honor, Dalrock commands all the men to man up, get in line, and learn to serve those butt and gina tinzgzlzlzo so as to keep the women from stealing the children and their assets. In the name of Churchianity, Dalrock has thrown in the towel on Natural Law, God, Christ, Homer, Plato, Socrates, and Moses, and placed his faith in gaming da tinzgzzlzo butztz zztzzonzzlzl.
Heartiste does not state that “Christians need game,” but rather he points out that with all the butetehxtxing fiuckcingz suckingz going oionz zlzlozoz with women fornicatingz forniiciatzing and acting on butt and ginata tainzgzlzzoozo, women are simply not behaving in a Christian manner. While Dalrock wishes to rewrite the Christian contract, so that it includes and exalts his gamey gamezlzozo and sevresz butt and gingz itnglzlzoz, Heartsiste sees that women have broken the Christian contract, and thus, all bets are off. Rahther than teaching the Law of Moses which Jesus Came to Fulfill, Dalrock teaches da law of da butt and gina tingzlzolzozo, while teaching that Jesus came to abolish the Law of Moses, to make way for da rule of da dalorckkain tinzgzlzlozoz.
Long story short, while HEartistse sees that for men and women to kneel before god, women must also kneel before god, Dalrock stipulates that it is OK for women to rise and follow thier butt and gina tainzgzlzlzlzoz, but then men must stay kneeling, not only before god, but before the womenz butt and ginz tingzlzozoz tinzgzzlozoozozlzooz omgz zlzozolzolzoozz.
And while Dalrock continues his long march ogf deconstruction and destruction through the halls of westerrn civilizationz, exalting in his purple robe and gamey bathoils and chainsz in the midstz of his flock of fatherless franakfartian followers who have flocked to Dalrock to learn of glorious da butt and gina tingzlzlzozo which replaced the law of moses which dalrock tells them jesus came to abolish, here is what the GReat Menz said abdout da Great Booksz for Mensz:
http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2014/04/11/the-difference-between-dalrock-christianitybutt-gina-tingzlzoozoz-not-mosesjesus-and-heartistes-christianity-requires-women-to-act-in-a-christian-manner-great-men-on-the-great-books/
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You might consider refining your newfound practice from asking to telling. “What do you think?” vs “You think…” Be righteous in your application of this.
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I approve of this.
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i like it too, but i use ‘assume the poop’ game. she excuses herself for the restroom, you ask “number 2? ok cool i’ll be here” she sputters but has to go. comes back, still on her heels in the conversation forced to deny she pooped. i’ll combine it with this advice and get her to bring me a new drink when she’s done.
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She excuses herself. You say, “Get me a drink when you’ve dropped your load.” I like.
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im going on a date with a girl with limited english soon. obviously the conversation is gonna dry up fast so any tips?? caveman it? wouldnt more comfort need to be established before i can get really physical
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as a native speaker, you have in-built higher status. use this to your advantage. “it’s so funny the way you say [x]. don’t worry you’ll get the hang of it.” play a game with her, call it “wordless conversation”, and explain that you have to spend ten minutes talking to each other without talking. chick crack.
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That’s what I needed with la Colombiana!!!
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Why are you taking her on a date?
Go for drinks, get her drunk, pound away.
Rape!
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when i say a date i mean take her for drinks
good stuff CH
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Learn her language.
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Learn to say something very naughty in her language.
An off color joke perhaps.
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Teach her to say something unusual in your language. Funny idioms like “Nothing but a tornado in a tea cup” … esp. if you can come up with a good double entendre.
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I had heard “tempest in a tea cup.” But she won’t know and it’s funnier for you if it’s a bit off, is that the point?
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thats a good one too
shes brazilian…if what roosh says is true they are used to getting groped up in clubs by brazilian men anyways ha
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Unless she’s some religious prude or exchange nerd type, you are good to go.
We brazilians don’t do this “dating” thing just to get to know each other. Once a girl agrees to go out with a man its understood that she already likes you (at least for a same night make out session or bang).
Also, the girls here like to boast about banging foreign dudes while on a trip abroad – some sort of inferiority syndrome – neighbors grass thing.
It takes basic level game to get a brazilian chick (but solid game to keep a worthy LTR if it comes to that).
Hope it helps.
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This can backfire really easily. Quick story: Mexican delivery guy takes furniture to hot Puerto Rican chick’s house. She asks him if he wants a piece of “torta” and he is immensely disappointed when she brings him back a slice of cake instead of a helping of pussy. I’ve known Spanish speakers to take serious offense at mistakes like this. Not just mild indignation, but lynch mob kind of offense. It pays to know the nuances of your target’s specific dialect, which is probably too much investment to be practical for a chick you’re not already banging regularly and enjoying immensely.
The “powerlessness pose” thing works well on daughters too. My little bitchy teenage princess is still quite compliant a week or two after I forced her into total submission. She will need another corrective action soon, but I can manage this. Before I forced her to comply with my orders, she thought she could get away with murder, and totally blew me off.
Speaking of which, I need to go kick my son’s ass. The mower isn’t running. Why the hell not?
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@Anonymous, I deal with this all the time where I live in Asia. I’ve found in many cases, limited English doesn’t matter if you display confidence by smiling confidently and not appearing fazed when she appears flustered that a word doesn’t come out.
Also, kino is a great substitute, you can “comfort” her and escalate at the same time.
The “Question Game”—she asks you a question and you ask her a question is good.
You can look at photos or go to a photo gallery.
Also, this has taught me to speak slowly and more confidently.
The feedback I get is “I like your voice”.
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Tom Sawyer was a masterly characterization of this.
Getting a chick to paint a wall with a roller on a pole worked well for me one time.
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But I heard your Lord Lucifer could not be called little.
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1. “I had to promote the Little Colonel to Little General after those twins.”
—Joey from Friends.
2. Shut up, you lying dumb dyke. Take your Photoshopped pictures and kill yourself.
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Seconded.
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[…] Assume The Sale Game […]
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In other words, actions speak louder than words.
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My kid sister and I live in the house Dad bequeathed us, although not together in any sense except as co-owners. I am, for various reasons, the low status partner, and haven’t been getting much respect (and deservedly so).
Sis, in her late fifties with a brush haircut, has a boyfriend from another state.
He, and one of Sis’ daughters, were visiting a couple of months ago, and we were all sitting out on the patio. BF and I fell into a separate conversation, and drew off from the ladies. At some point, he politely asked Sis for a beer, since she was closer to the cooler. Sis was deep in conversation with her daughter, and asked for a minute.
Several minutes later, Jay asked me if I would prompt Sis for the beer.
And completely on impulse, to my own considerable astonishment, I bellowed, “WOMAN! SERVE US!”
Her head whipped around to give me a killing glare. A dark cloud roiled above me, vengeful lightnings began to play.
I opened my mouth to apologize….
…And she, by the Lord Harry, stood up, explained she’d forgotten, and got us both beers.
Two months later, I am still enjoying a considerably easier relationship with Sis.
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and the clouds parted a little as a ray of sunshine poked its way through the darkness.
Good work. You will find that game works on family, on female colleagues at work, at church, in the supermarket, and so forth.
It’s all about frame control.
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Game works on kids too.
Whenever we meet, at least three times a month, I’m applying textbook alpha game on my 4 year-old niece (reward slowly, punish swiftly, that kind of thing, no pedo for the love of God).
She is kind of obsessed with me , always asking about me when she’s at home with her parents… and although I frequently piss her off and make her cry, she always comes back for more.
The funny thing is that my father, her granddad, who is crazy about her because she’s his only grandkid, and who is otherwise alpha with my mom, is running a cringingly pathetic beta game on the little brat, and he predictably gets what he deserves.
When he begs her to come near him and I’m around, she usually ignores him and ends up all over me, leaving him scratching his head and wondering wtf is going on. I would gladly teach him or show him this blog, but we’re the kind of family where there is no realtalk.
All of my other family members are constantly giving me crap for treating kids like shit, and usually ask “they love you so much, why do you treat them like that?”.
Well, you guys know why this question is so off. Thanks CH.
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Here in Japan, until about 10-15 years ago, the tradition was that young women (“office ladies”, in classy feminine uniforms) would go around to the men’s desks and serve tea to them at the beginning of the day.
That tradition is just about gone now (though, curiously, the young men are still doing menial tasks like photocopying), and I only got to experience it one time when I was returning to my old graduate school to edit one of their publications, and was suddenly an honored guest rather than a fellow student.
A girl I had studied with was now an employee, and I’ll never forget the aura of happiness coming from her as she poured it.
What a huge motivational pick-up this small, ostensibly-servile gesture is! And for both sides — the woman enjoys “serving” just as much as the man enjoys being served.
Of course budget cuts and encroaching feminism have almost killed off this practice. But I predict that the upcoming end of the misandry bubble will see it making a return, in the West to boot, in our lifetimes. Everybody enjoys the practice except the hags and harpies.
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One thing I’ve read about japanese culture is that the women take the money the men earn and give it back as allowance, “okozukai.”
Not sure when this practice started but no doubt it has much to do with the catastrophic amounts of Herbivores and MGTOW in japan’s ever-aging population.
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Preston, no, that’s ancient. It used to be that the manly samurai didn’t want to have to deal with petty things ilke money and preferred to have their (very loyal) wives manage all of that for them. Today that custom has morphed into the pampered wives spending their salaryman husbands’ earnings on coffee klatches and flower-arranging lessons while their slaves try to get by on 300 to 500 yen for lunch.
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Preston, you should read up on old customs. In the West, even way back in the Iron Age, women in many cultures would hold the keys to the house and take care of the family economy. Caring for the home was a full-time job, and holding the keys to the room where the food was stored was part of that, as was deciding over what to purchase at the market. There is nothing “herb” or “beta” about it. The man, of course, would work the fields and handle the family’s interactions with other families, and make any big decisions for the family, such as if the boys were old enough to join the raid next summer.
Though of course, it is never this clear-cut either. Feminists like to make everything black and white, and declare that any power men have had in history is oppressive, while the woman’s power either didn’t really exist or was “subordinate”. But when two normal people live together and share their lives they will talk about things. For example the wife giving the husband spending money in Japan (On what? He’s not buying the rice or sewing needles. This would only be spent at the bar/tea house. It won’t be much money we’re talking about.) won’t be an unquestioned dictate, there will be communication about it.
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To make a long story short, feminists don’t know about division of labor and how it works.
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“A girl I had studied with was now an employee, and I’ll never forget the aura of happiness coming from her as she poured it.”
But how do we get that back? As civilization advances we become increasingly narcissistic. I’m really not sure how many women have that intrinsic desire to give and serve anymore. And if they have it, they question whether they’re seen as weak.
At my first office job, I used to take my boss’s coffee mug and wash it for him while I was washing mine. He caught me doing this and was appalled. “You don’t have to do that!” Well, no kidding. I wanted to do it. Did he think less of me for doing it? You have to wonder.
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No, he didn’t think less of you. He thought it was shameful for a man to accept service from a woman. My father has the same reaction to my wife serving him when he visits. It is sad.
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“But how do we get that back?” Nothing short of complete collapse of the modern world.
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U are so lost and bleed it in your posts.
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Coming from you this is truly hilarious.
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and she didn’t say i was wrong boys, just attacked the messenger……
you all get the predictable girl patterns yet?
in all honesty i feel for ya Amers.
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Civilizations is advancing? Technology is, but technology is not the sum of civilization. Civilization actually is in a constant state of upheaval and degradation since at least the 1910’s or so. We’re so near end game now that you can practically taste it in the air.
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If you think about it, in the old days you always had women serving men in the office setting, usually in the capacity of secretary. Now only high level executives have secretaries.
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Kyo, you happily don’t realize how strong the feminist imperative is here in the ‘states. As a man who would certainly enjoy a traditional style at work, I think it is near impossible. Western women won’t do it, they will sue if asked to do it. In some workplaces one could get fired for suggesting it — sexual harassment, discrimination, not being a team player, violating HR policies, etc.
If Amy did her boss a domestic favor washing his mug, she did it at the risk of censure from other women, depending on who the women were that could see it.
The United States, to my knowledge, has never had this sort of traditional culture. We have “frontier spirit” where the women are tough to deal with life on the trail.
To “return to” a higher level of civilization than has existed here before would be a miracle. But if anything can make miracles like that occur, I guess the government-mediated invasion by more traditional cultures (Mexican, Muslim) and economic depression are the sort of things needed. So hey maybe it’s possible after all.
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One of the first dates with my now GF of over a year, we were discussing what to do after we got food etc. I said something along the lines of “you can just drop me at my car tomorrow morning”, she said something like “Oh, what makes you think you’re coming back to my place?” Channeling the teachings of CH I smirked and said “Always assume the sale”. Sure enough went back to her place. We’ve been dating over a year now and live together. She STILL brings up that comment “always assume the sale” with sparkles in her eyes and tingles galore.
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Brilliant.
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zllzlzoozooz
daonly reaosn 2 have a girfifrnedz
is if you have
no gamez
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how many men has your girlfriend fucked
a) before
b) during
c) after
your brief interlude?
10? 20? 33? 42?
lzolzozozooz
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how many men has your girlfriend fucked
a) before
b) during
c) after
your brief interlude?
10? 20? 33? 42?
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Don’t hate on the man with the girlfriend. He just did himself better than 90% of other dudes w/ that comment.
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Perhaps it’s a caution to Always assume the salle (salle being the French word for durrty)
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“salle” is room or hall.
“sale” (pronounced “saahl”) is dirty.
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‘Salle gooood?
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that’s right. GBFM embrace the LTR with low mileage broads.
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I prefer:
TSW: “Let’s make a bet.”
Girl: “About what?”
TSW: “How many more days before you let me fuck you.”
Girl: “Ahhh. What do you think?”
TSW: “Six. We’ll fuck in six days.”
It always speeds up the process, guaranteed. But say something tasteful, like six, so that she doesn’t feel like a slut.
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sounds like it works.
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“But say something tasteful, like six, so that she doesn’t feel like a slut.”
Yea, that’ll do it. Lol!
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A friend of a friend tried that with my the other day. It was really awkward. I did what he said the first few times because I couldn’t figure out whether or not he would get angry if I refused and I didn’t want to be rude. I had to excuse myself eventually though because he kept doing it and it was getting tedious.
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Lie.
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It’s a psychological tactic that gets your “enemy” to do a favor for you. If they perform that favor, regardless of how it’s stated, they will feel good towards you. Basically, people do nice things for people they like. If you can get someone to do a nice thing for you, they will like you more.
I think it was Benjamin Franklin who employed this tactic to have one of his “enemies” send him a book from their private collection because the “enemy” had a better knowledge on the subject. Even though the request was belittling of himself, the “enemy” send the book and a letter happily explaining what he needed to know. From then on, the “enemy” tried to be friends with Franklin even though Franklin didn’t solicit such behavior,
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Another interesting strategy is that you can prime someone to do you a small favor by asking for a big favor first.
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Are you jooish?
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Phallic username … probably.
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Frankfurt school, born and raised.
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Well, the strategy there is to wrap a compliment or some deference around the request. In your example the enemy was flattered that he was being treated as an authority on that subject, which made him more willing to comply with the request. We’re more willing to want to do something nice for people who are nice to us.
The psychology of what CH is describing is different. It’s about establishing dominance. Instead of a compliment, you want to wrap some teasing/smartassery around the command (at least initially) so she has a little deniability. She can laugh and think “hey, this is just roleplay, he’s a dork” and it gives her psychological cover for following his orders, which she secretly likes to do, but is not comfortable doing right off the bat.
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[…] (and alienating) my coreligionists many of whom seem get the vapors every time his name comes up, this bit from CH is exactly the kind of thing that I’m talking about when I talk about […]
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“a date with a girl with limited English”
Get a “translation” app for your smartphone, or there are little Gizmo’s that will do this for you as well. Foreign women tend to be MUCH better at this sort of thing than American women – at least from what I have been told by foreign men. When I was in China I found I got as much interest in the gizmo as there was in the fact that I was willing to take the time to try to communicate in a way that was easier for her. But then the women were Chinese, so much more polite and sweet than any Western woman. Unfortunately, just translating words is only a few percent of the task as the language construction is usually completely different. So you have to keep things short and sweet.
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I read Hans Christian Anderson’s Tinderbox to a Danish hottie once in halting Danish and she gave me a nice
Blowjob at the end.
What’s the language?
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Better yet: learn to speak her language very, very well. Not so that you can communicate with her perfectly; no, what we want is much more devious than that. What you want to be able to do is speak her language with just the right accent and just the right simplified sentence patterns that you have the charm of someone “foreign” but without actually burdening her with making her understand “wrong” language.
Speak her language slowly and with a slight accent, but not incorrectly. She gets the thrill of successfully communicating with someone exotic without the costs that would come with someone who can’t actually speak her language, all the while not knowing why it’s not as much of a headache as she might expect it to be. Punctuate your talk with occasional perfectly-enunciated words so that she can see your “potential”. Occasionally have a hesitant, “am I saying this correctly?” look on your face so that she can tell you that you are.
Works great; Europeans have been pulling this on American women for years. All men should try it!
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In Taiwan that’s just part of a normal conversation. You can often “accidentally” make a funny substitution word, such as “pussy” instead of “pen”.
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But Europeans all learn some version of English in school. Or at least they are taught, so some learn.
Trying to learn a foreign language well starting from age 18 or more is basically impossible.
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The Defense Language Institute in California would say that you’re wrong on that assertion FamilyMan. They turn out very competent linguists in a variety of languages, all of whom enter no younger than 18 years of age.
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I agree, Burninator. You just have to use your “adult skills” rather than the osmosis that small children use. Learning a Romance language? Get a book about the sound changes that occurred during the two millennia in which Latin morphed into Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, etc. Learning an language with Chinese characters? Get a good dictionary that explains the phonetic-semantic compound nature of over 70% of the characters (they’re not little pictures; neither are hieroglyphics).
At age 27 I took a grad course in linguistics in which we practiced every sound on the chart, including those exotic African click sounds. All of us were able to pronounced everything. You can too; you just need to be taught like an adult.
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VI. Keep her guessing
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Such a powerful one. I’m actually enjoying being completely -honest- about my (relative to these chicks) inexperience….and then just launching myself full throttle into whatever debauched activity. The key is to approach it with full concentration so that you can nail the execution. Leaves them with a ‘I thought you said you never….’ and then you can just kind of smirk back ‘…oh, did I say that?’
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all warfare is deception
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When someone does you a favor the common assumption is that you’ll owe them a favor in return, when in actuality it increases the possibility that they’ll do you another favor. Getting people to do little favors for you increases their loyalty to you.
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Doesn’t this partially explain “put your # in my phone” game? It covers everything here and the thing she does is put her # in your phone. 2 birds with one stone. ??? Even I am 4 for 5 doing “put your number in my phone” and I’m 39 and 3 of them were probably 19 year olds…..problem is they were working as barkers on the street and it didn’t go anywhere after that. Which proves another point others have made: location does matter. The “put your # in my phone” guys in the vids are on a college campus. I am 39 and in the streets of a city not near a college. There is a college or four in my city but it’s not college girls walking around downtown where I work.
Also on the OP, why can’t you give us more details without giving anything away? For the educational value? What did you have her do? Wave at a passing car? Do a cartwheel in front of a random stranger? Lick some used chewing gum off of the bottom of a table? I think the details would be helpful.
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I am like you Grim…and i think the PYNMP game should be done with some prior banter/rapport first like if the woman is working as a server or in a shop and you end a brief convo with it..like ‘hey, we should go on a date. put your number in my phone’.
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Tho, I would love to try and pick up a girl who works at a convenience store or somewhere with the following:
Drive up to the store on a slick, fast street bike. Enter the store wearing full black leather bike attire from head to toe including gloves and a full-face helmet with a black visor.
Walk up to the counter..say nothing..keep your helmet on..point to what you want. (pull out your cash so she doesnt think youre a robber..probably important)
Her: “you want what..lol..this?”
You: give her an extremely subtle nod
Buy something else like this..then pay..take your change..say nothing still.
Then give her your smart phone set on the dial pad screen.
Her: “Wat..lol..you want my phone number..lol?”
You: give her an extremely subtle nod
Her: “No..i dont think so…lol..take off your helmet first..obviously..”
You: you casually look at your watch then leave, jump on your bike and peel away.
Next day: repeat above until she tells you to remove your helmet then remove it and laugh self-amusedly, chat her up, then PYNMP game. lol.
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It’s hard for me to imagine there’s no way to get one date with a girl who already put her number in your phone. She’s already started by showing some vulnerability, go ahead and play off that. Text something like “Hey, it’s FM, you put your number in my phone Wednesday over by the bookstore. I don’t think we know each other very well, let’s meet at Venue#1 for coffee 7pm today.” Very friendly and smooth, and she’s already invested.
Never done this but how could it not work?
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because girls will easily give out their #s to avoid confrontation rather than just say know….getting a # is nearly no accomplishment at all. CH has written about this. then it is easy for them to not answer phone or return a text.
getting a # is not much of an accomplishment
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Exactly. The rule is to always get the number. Even if the interaction wasn’t good you still get the number. This trains yourself to be the guy that always gets the number. It generates a lot of weak leads in the beginning and many don’t even respond. But five years later you’ll be the one not initiating contact on a number you got because a hotter chick just gave you her number. And she gave it to you because you get every girls number. Even their friends numbers. That can provide some interesting stories, too.
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[…] By CH […]
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Did something similar to a girl over the phone and told her “read this thing and tell me what you think about it”. She answered instantly and seemed to agree although she said “sorry, can’t do it right now. I’m at school. Later.”
Never did. And hasn’t done it or talked about that.
Days later I told her about another text I had read. And she said: “Do you want me to read it and then we comment on it”. I said: “Sure.”
Hasnt happened.
I meet this girl regulary at church every week. Last friday I had to leave early. 5 minutes after leaving I got a text: “Sorry that I didn’t greet you. Was busy with [something]”. I went beta: “No problem. First things first”. Later I thought I should have told her something else teasing about me being most important (overconfidence).
We meet two days later and I realize she never comes and greets, it’s always been me who has to take the iniative. (Why the text then?)
Future-faker? Just toying with me?
Anyway I cut the phone texts a week ago.
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I think you see where this’s headed.
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Yeah in fact I do … no way to turn around this dynamic. Time to move on with lesson learned. It’s a never ending learning story
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Next time you see her, say, “I can trust you, right?”
She’ll be hesitant and say, “yeeeah, I guess”
Then you say, “I just ate some spinach dip, do I have anything in my teeth?”
And then bare your teeth for her inspection.
Then let us know what happened.
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I saw the video you shared via twitter on the evolution of beauty and I thought you might find this interesting:
According to the study, the traits that mattered most to women are as follows:
Body Shape: 79.7%
Height: 6.1%
Penis Size: 5.1%
I was surprised on how low height scored and even more surprised that If a guy is tall and with a big penis, it’s just an added plus but not to a short guy. A short man can have a huge penis but it won’t boost his overall attractiveness. So, the traits have to be interlinked in a way to gain the overall attractive ideal.
But…at the end of the video, someone asks him a question about competition and penis size. He theorizes that there might be some positive correlation between this but a more in-depth study is needed.
Now, I know some guys will think this discredits game but I think it actually sets the foundation for why game is important.Game helps by letting you actively compete out there in the market. This competition (theoretically) could fuel your biology directly, whether you know it or not.
Man is, by his nature, a competitive animal. Those who keep plowing on will eventually pass their genes to the best mate that they can find.
[CH: female physical attractiveness criteria don’t discredit game because those criteria are orthogonal to the other traits that women love in men. to put it succinctly, women have a much broader range of attractiveness criteria than do men. game is an exploit of the personality/charisma/social status axis of male traits that women judge for mate worth.]
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whatever. height is UBER important to women. any man under 6’0″ is absolutely starting with a handicap in this world. even 5’11” is missing out on a huge % of opportunities (both professional and personal) compared to a 6’1″ man. literally life changing in mate choices, who you end up marrying. sure the 5’11” can learn game and anyone can approve, but 6’1″ naturally broad shouldered guy has huge starting point advantage.
even with options from the get go. sure there is the Tom Cruise thing, but usually 5’7″ is a bit too tall for a 5’11” guy because when she’s in heels she’s almost as tall as him. women want to look up to their man literally and figuratively. it’s just fucking true. There are plenty of 5’8″ girls who are total hotties. That’s not too tall for a woman (like a 5’11” awkward looking girl is a bit too tall)…but it’s too tall for me. My options are limited to 5’7″ and below and even that is a bit too tall and 5’3″ to 5’4″ is better for me. So I literally have less options than the 6’1″ guy.
My ex GF was/is 5’7″ and a long legged hottie–awesome body. She was the tallest girl I’ve ever banged and we dated for 3 years…but even that (my height) was partly an issue, I believe. Her dad is 6’5″ huge guy. Now, in the beginning she chose me and fucked me for 3 years, but I firmly believe that some of the natural beta that creeps in to any LTR would have been more forgivable if I were 6’2″, which is the height a 5’7″ girl needs.
life’s not fair. just like a female 6 is missing out on being an 8 …. huge difference.
A 5’8″ girl is not too tall; I’m too short for her. Yeah I know–fix my internals.
I absolutely know that at parties, the girl wants the man to be comfortably taller when she’s in her heels.
Now, men’s dress shoes have like a 3/4 inch heel. When my 5’7″ GF wore some pretty big heels, I was still taller than her, by about an inch. But that’s not enough. 5’7″ girl really needs the man to be 6’1″ minimum…have to be 2 inches taller, at least, even when she’s in her 4 inch heels.
Women admit this. Fucking little spoon, who is 5’0″ and 101 pounds, says she won’t date a guy less than 6’2″ or some shit like that, and many many women hold that same view.
Cue the guys to tell me about game. 6’2″ guy can learn game too. All game being equal, it is better to be 6’2″ than 5’11”.
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Yes, and it’s even better if you’re also a rockstar. There’s nothing much you can do about your height.
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I’m going to tell you now that height isn’t really that big of a deal. It’s funny how you’re listening to what women say still —>
‘Fucking little spoon, who is 5’0″ and 101 pounds, says she won’t date a guy less than 6’2″ or some shit like that’
Women also say they won’t date men who treat them like shit.
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The thing you have to bear in mind whenever the subject of women’s measurable attractiveness criteria comes up is that the studies finding this or that female preference for particular male physical attributes have a restriction of range problem; namely, that the men in such studies for the most part have no compensating game. This is the case because as much as we talk about game here the fact remains that few men in the outside world are actually putting the principles into practice. So what happens is that female mate choice gets heavily weighted toward the physical side of the male attractiveness equation when social scientists attempt to analyze the issue closely.
This is not to say that female preferences for certain male physical traits don’t exist (all else equal, women do prefer taller men to shorter men), but these inherent mate choice study limitations do point up how difficult it is to uncover female preferences in a real world setting where all sorts of biofeedback (such as male charm and confidence) influences female perception of male sexual or romantic worth.
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On the complete real, I’d say height doesn’t matter much — if at all — if you’re at least two inches taller than the girl. It matters a fair amount if you’re like the same height. And it matters a ton if she’s noticeably taller than you.
However, even if you want to keep things totally physical….the effect of being muscular/low bf goes a long way toward modifying what I just said about height.
Getting some tats, adopting an edgier style, even moreso. This is before we even get to ‘game.’
Once you pass a basic looks threshold, the rest is all game. For height, IMHO >90% of girls just need you to at LEAST be a LITTLE taller than them to meet that standard. A substantially less amount are cool with you being a little shorter. And a substantially less amount are cool with you being a good amount shorter.
You’ll see. Get some 2-3 inch lifts. You will realize that the world really won’t react to you much differently — despite the fact that you, personally, will feel way more confident.
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“as much as we talk about game here the fact remains that few men in the outside world are actually putting the principles into practice. So what happens is that female mate choice gets heavily weighted toward the physical side of the male attractiveness equation when social scientists attempt to analyze the issue closely.”
This is important. Part of why I’m not intimidated by the tall rich jacked guys I see is because I’ve been around enough of them to know that maybe 10% of them have any real game and only like 1% of them has game that I’d actually have to worry about.
Guys give way too much credit to other guys. You have to go out and watch these dudes going home alone and supplicating to girls and buying their attention with drinks every night and go up and talk to their girls and run game and experience the girls snubbing them for you, to really burn into your brain how rare good game is.
So in these studies, it’s like I’ve said before: being tall/jacked/rich is just a fast indicator that the guy is more likely to have alpha attributes than a guy who doesn’t have those things…the same way if we put a mousey makeupless girl in a baggy sweatshirt beside a model in a tight dress most guys would pick the model because we assume a woman displaying her sexuality like that will be a good fuck.
But once you add game into the equation all that shit goes out the window the same way as if you found out the mousey girl loves the same kind if sex you do and the model hates giving head and only bangs with the lights off and only lets you fuck her missionary and has banged 50 guys…you might still go with the model but she’s become a lot less appealing than that mousey girl who’s become more appealing.
I haven’t done a workout in like a year (besides sex lol) and the girls I’m with give no fucks. I’m actually turning down a fuckbuddy who’s my height and wears stripper style heels (so she towers over me) tonight to get some work done and she wants me to come out to where her and her friends are drinking because she knows other guys will be pussies around her but I’ll dominate her and pull her down by the back of her head to suck face and lead her around by the small of her back etc even in public while having to look up at her. A second FB plays sports every week and works with athletes but loves cuddling up to my chubby belly. With both of these girls I just walk around naked after sex as if I’m a 10 lol
My two LTRs were both my height and wore heels but those were flukes cause I actually like short petite girls personally.
So much of this height and looks shit is about “will she like me????” instead of “does she pass my requirements?” It’s such a wrong headspace from the start lol
Shitload of mental masturbation in this comment section today. It’s Friday night, GTFO there and run game on some tall girls talking to tall guys lol
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5’9 guy here (I know, I’m “average” but to women 5’9 is simply short) and I’ve smashed women taller than me. And I mean taller without heels.
I actually prefer women 5’7 and up, I like that body type and I enjoy the challenge of gaming them as a smaller guy. The thrill of the hunt and all that.
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“‘Fucking little spoon, who is 5’0″ and 101 pounds, says she won’t date a guy less than 6’2″ or some shit like that’”
I said this? Not me, hon. I would prefer a guy to be 6’2″, but I make very minimal efforts towards dating a guy that tall. My boyfriend is 6’1″ and he is the tallest man I’ve ever dated. My exes were 5’10, 5’6″ and 6 ft.
I will agree that penis size doesn’t fix being too short though.
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I like how people are relying on a study that asked women to rate height and penis size — two variables that are attractive in close proximity, i.e. when the dude is hugging/holding the chick or fucking her — visually. Well no shit they won’t be as attractive as body type when women are just looking at them. It’s like a woman saying ‘no i don’t like big dicks they huuuurt,’ when abstracting one but squirming and squealing when one is actually inside of her.
Stop being such chumps.
‘I will agree that penis size doesn’t fix being too short though.’
Shit test^ ….ya’ll are failing miserably.
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..you can’t even do anything about those things anyway…so fuck it..
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Scray, you have no experience in LTR.
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Also untrue. I had two very long-term girlfriends before getting in to game. I have a pretty steady ongoing relationship with the 7 I met last summer.
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I think he defines LTR as something a bit more substantial, time wise, than you do Scray. Last summer? Dude, that’s not even a year. The scent is still on the bloom in year one. When you get to year 5 and past, that’s when the real “fun” of a relationship starts.
Note: I’m using “fun” sarcastically.
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Yeah, real LTR is after several years of raising children together.
It’s really down to brass tacks, eventually. After some successful and some unsuccessful life events. Big decisions not all of which look good in retrospect. Being only with each other, and your joint problems, i mean kids, everyday for years.
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lol if your def of LTR = several years of raising children together then I’d def say height (or anything else) fails to matter after that point. Why? because you knocked her up and she’s had your kids. You won the battle of that pussy. It’s over, KO.
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What women say vs What women do are galaxies apart.
Openly stating prerequisites (as per Little Spoon) is laughable.
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At a foot shorter I’m pretty sure Style bagged as many women as Mystery did. We all have our physical shortcomings and a huge aspect of game is ignoring these and focusing on the strengths we possess. It’s pretty clear your height insecurity is burning a hole in your inner-game. Any average height dude with airtight game doesn’t even mention height because it’s never an issue. step you game up beta.
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Are you 5 11?
It’s not bad, Jim Morrison was that height.
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I don’t buy that height is important. I am 5′ 8″. What is important is and what has served me well is recognizing that look that a female gives you when she is receptive to being opened. If a woman is not open to being gamed by you, no amount of game will get her. Learn to recognize when a woman is open to being gamed and your height becomes irrelevant. At any given time most women are simply not available to you. Find the ones that are and hit them.
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This is such a good piece of advice.
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I was out last night, and some HB7 that I’d never met before walks up to me (crowded area, btw) and says “OMG! You’re burninator! I’m *ditzy name here*, I passed by you last week and waved, remember?!?” and then, I swear this was weird, hugged on me like I was her FB (?? dafuq?) and asked to sit down next to me.
So I’m wondering…was she receptive to being opened?
Heh
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I guess she’s open, next time it’s your move. Assume the sale.
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Face is more important than height. It doesn’t mean face will always win, but take it from a guy who is 5’6”. If it weren’t for my face being considered attractive, I’d have a really tough time otherwise.
I’ve won out over men much taller than I and it had nothing to do with any alpha behavior or game (I’m naturally aloof because I’m more introverted). In fact, most women consider me to be more of a provider upon first glance.
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Brother, I think it matters over the long haul. (married about 18 years) Once the hot passion wears off — and kids are pretty much guaranteed to snuff it out — fundamentals that can affect day to day attraction and repulsion matter more not less.
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I’m gonna agree with Grim. Well I’m 5’6″ and my wife is 5’2″. But she doesn’t do really high heels, it works well enough. Of course taller is better, but I’ve never even tried a pair of elevator shoes for the small lift they would give. I’ve had some relationship issues that might be less if I were taller, but as I say, the kids are teenagers already and I haven’t been served yet.
There are plenty of petite women in the world. Many of them are in Asia or originally from there.
What I don’t agree with is saying 5’7″ is “not too tall”. It is too tall. For you. Or if that isn’t, say 5’9″ surely would be. It’s important to have right proportions, then things feel better, in bed and elsewhere. You should be able to maneuver your woman around and control her without effort. If you were 6’8″ (NBA guard/forward), then any woman under 6 feet would probably feel too short for you.
This is not a matter of fixing your internals in the sense of showing confidence with women that are too tall for you. That’s hard, and it is an ongoing challenge in a LTR that can sink you even if you do everything right. Fix your internals to realize that there is a right size range of women for you, same as for any man, but the range differs by the man’s height. That’s easy and it works.
I used to dream of dating a supermodel, then I realized that a supermodel is much taller than I am. That would suck. In this lifetime, supermodels are not for me.
I always thought Sonny looked pathetic next to Cher. And sure enough she never showed him any respect. Wrong choice for him, and they made money in the music biz (I don’t know why, they weren’t great), but romantically it was a bust.
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thanks. yeah I know. I’ve been with many little cuties between 5’0″ and 5’5″. Not as many as YaReally but not a totally embarrassing number and way above the national beta average, according to CH. they are everywhere. but after being with the 5’7″ girl (who was in such good shape that she’s still tiny…had a six pack and was about 120 lbs at 5’7″ due to doing ballet SERIOUSLY her entire life)..I’m kind of ruined for the 5’0″ girls I used to like. Now I need a professional ballerina (literally) or I’m not happy.
The 5’7″ girl…I swear the extra 7 inches compared to the 5’0″ girl was all in her femur bone (thigh bone)!!!!! Like…again, I’m not super short (5’11”), but this girl’s legs were as long as mine). She is truly a phenom….all legs, thin, but still has good hips like a woman as opposed to a masculine shape.
She hates me now and I know her feminine nature and all the stuff we talk about here (has only one egg; must be able to move on quickly) tells her I’m a total asshole evil incarnate, but the reality is my only mistake in the relationship was a sort of natural betaization taht creeps in as even CH says….. I really think if I were a 6’2″ guy the betaness can get forgiven more easily.
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“The 5’7″ girl…I swear the extra 7 inches compared to the 5’0″ girl was all in her femur bone (thigh bone)!!!!! Like…again, I’m not super short (5’11″)”
Okay, so who to listen to on the subject of height mattering. The 5’***11***” guy (jesus, I assumed you were like 5’8″ from 5’7″ being your tallest girl, you have 2 inches on me…my extra 2″ went to my cock) who’s tallest girl was 5’7″ and the family man who’s married and doesn’t actually go out and get laid let alone by taller girls…
…or this 5’0″ guy:
Tough call lol Go spend 6 months hitting on every tall girl you see.
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“I’m gonna agree with Grim.”
Well shit, if the married guy agrees with the guy who’s never fucked a girl taller than 5’7″, that’s all the evidence I need! Case closed! Everyone go home! Where’s that website for extending my shin bones???
If I wasn’t posting from my phone I would link some Cupid Schmupid vids here for the basement dwellers who haven’t seen a short guy with game before.
Most of the major name PUAs are in the 5’7″-5’9″ range.
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You are answering a different question than I am. I don’t doubt that if I tried, I could overcome gravity for a while and date a girl taller than me, even though it would make ME somewhat uncomfortable.
Game can do a lot.
But unless you think you really can continuously game your wife to overcome such a situation, and really want to set yourself such a lifelong challenge, I don’t think you have addressed my point. Taller is generally better, and the normal height difference is pleasing to both people, creating a condition for success rather than an ongoing risk for failure.
Show me the guys who have been married 10 years to taller women. Well I happen to know one, he brings massive intellectual and financial capital to a relationship with a taller poor girl who does have model-like looks. Their marriage is stable. I think they’re happy. Good for them, and he’s comfortable with it.
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Well no offense, but you’re married and you’re not going out hitting on chicks often….so like, what’s so special about your advice?
I go out fairly often — even with the plates I’m spinning — and I interact with women.
‘You should be able to maneuver your woman around and control her without effort. If you were 6’8″ (NBA guard/forward), then any woman under 6 feet would probably feel too short for you.’
Normal — read: thin — women aren’t heavy or difficult to move around. Even if they”re taller than you.
‘ And sure enough she never showed him any respect.’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/18/cher-divorce_n_3951182.html
She loved him very deeply. It’s pretty obvious.
A lot of this just goes back to fear…again.
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Explain the orthogonal principle here.
I’m familiar with the term in perspective terminology.
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Orthogonal means perpendicular, but it also means statistically or otherwise independent. “Perpendicular in a generalized sense.” A movement along one axis causes no change along an orthogonal (perpendicular) axis. Changing one thing has no effect on the other.
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Women say they love a guy with a sense of humor too. But, how many of them in high school had a poster of Shemp in their room they used as masturbation fodder?
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I guess what the Bitter Loser Squad will take away from this is: “He smiled at a woman and said thanks to a woman. That’s so beta!”
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real question:
can you conceive that it’s not ever the words or the question asked but the man asking it that portends the reciprocity from a woman?
you personally like words and use them well, but i feel like you mistakenly overvalue their importance unless they are spoken or written by a man with the proper status/frame.
i’m also genuinely curious how tall you are, because I’ve seen this specific behavior manifested by men under 5″10″ and with diminutive statures quite a bit.
care to share? realtalk is very important.
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“23 February (8th March) was International Woman’s Day and meetings and actions were foreseen. But we did not imagine that this ‘Women’s Day’ would inaugurate the revolution. Revolutionary actions were foreseen but without date. But in morning, despite the orders to the contrary, textile workers left their work in several factories and sent delegates to ask for support of the strike… which led to mass strike… all went out into the streets.” Leon Trotsky
Communism was all about tingling Vagina.
Which leads to the great bloodbath of the USSR.
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No. No no. That conversation isn’t ass-kissing enough. CH has a few blind spots to the limitations we betas labor under.
[CH: break your beta chains, brother troll!]
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Communism is also about getting to tingle the Vagina.
Communism: beta nerd men who cant or wont compete under the rule of law and therefore get no ass use the force of violence to take wealth, resources, from the men who have it (and are presumably getting most of the prime Vagina).
Once they have the resources and have a monopoly on the use of violence, they use to get the Vagina – women give it up to get food, security, or through fear.
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Chateau :
Had a revelation :
An inordinate amount of the PUA advice that you dispense here and with munificence, seems to be inherently discriminatory in nature, and here’s why:
A majority of the precepts you offer your readers must fly over the heads of 99% <85iq people. [Including – nay especially – myself (wink**) ].
So I suppose the question is this: can one be a Nam or a liberal, and still grasp the CH message?
Sincerely,
– Arturo
crimes of the times.com (rather silent these days, practically defunct, it is too depressing to study the descent into Boasian dystopia that characterizes America's "newspaper of record").
[CH: re: CH, it’s a style issue. game can certainly be condensed into mushier bites, but here at the chateau form is on equal footing with function. to the bigger question, the concepts of game are likely unreachable for sub-85 IQs. maybe even sub 95s. that is the nature of the poonslaying beast.
ironically, the ranks of dummies are filled with naturals. what they can’t be taught they apparently know instinctually. there’s a lesson there for the more self-aware: game works best when you can “turn off” your overactive brain and go with the flow.]
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Colin Kaepernick, a good wingman, introduces his buds to an ex he doesn’t need.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2014/04/10/colin-kaepernick-investigation/7550297/
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OT.
http://us.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/22mrwy/catholic_christian_man_gets_cuckolded_asks_forum/
I think it might be a troll but either way it is illuminating. Christianity seems to turn men into sackless omegas
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its the deep tribal need to belong.
kills a man in an ltr
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On the Kirsten Dunst tweet: I repeat, see, this *really* sucks because all thin, attractive women under 35 read websites like the garbage the complaining YKW is on “religiously.” It matters. It’s how they think. Any woman who wants to be a feminine woman is subjected to a relentless barrage of attacks from the femcunt “be a strong woman” brigade. The YKW’s article attacking Dunst is so stupid (to any thinking person) it’s nearly unbelievable, including the — as CH has noted — bitchy/childish/snarky/purposely improper grammar, writing in the style of a big “text.” Sad.
The strong women femcunts are so weak, without realizing it. The underlying theme that is in of their advice is “never do something just because it might be pleasing to a man.” It’s so *weak*. Why can’t they see that?
Men, even alphas, happily try to do things that please women. They may or may not succeed, but they try. And the femcunts see a problem with simply trying to be something that is desired by the opposite sex!!!!
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And unfortunately, so many young guys now are really not masculine enough to inspire whatever femininity might still exist in these girls, so it’s a vicious circle. I meet a lot of guys my age who I have no desire to do anything for, not because I dislike them but because they aren’t masculine enough to generate the dynamic. They’ve had those masculine behaviors programmed out of them. Women will be extra feminine in the presence of a very masculine man. In a world of demasculinized men, women will become more and more masculine.
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Ah the old “make me a samwich woman!”
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Off topic I have to break up with my gf because I’m not ready to settle down, but I’m so chemically/emotionally bonded to her that it’s gonna hurt like a bitch for months, fuck this. I have no experience with breaking up with girls, is it cruel to keep her around as a “friend” and to tell her I’ll give her sex/a listening ear any time she wants it? Has the chateau written anything about breaking up with a girl? She’s a sensitive girl, with a good heart. No stunner, a 6.5, slim, cute.
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I break up with chicks every four months. It sucks every time cuz I know I’m probably not gonna bang ’em again. But then I find another girl and all is well in the world.
They are a beautifully cunning species and display “sensitive” traits to beguile mates into feeling a sense of duty to them. But don’t be fooled. It is a ruse designed to bait you. Nut up, my man, and just phase her out while banging other chicks. So it is.
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Cheers. The last paragraph is spot on. (Though there’s a risk of a sincere sensitive girl getting tainted by the majority’s weasely wiles). Any tips on how to phase them out? My girl is full on psychotically in love with me. 4 months is a good timeline, I stayed far too long in this relationship
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You’re probably seeing her more than once a week. Slow it down by telling her you can’t hang cuz you’ve got commitments. Just make some shit up. If you were planning on breaking up with her anyway then it doesn’t matter what you say. And if she catches you in a lie who cares. I’ve found that you have to see her at least once a week to keep the benefits. Your mileage may vary. On the nights you free up you should be out sarging or banging tinder sloots.
Your girl is psychologically in love cuz she knows you’re too good for her SMV-wise. Just like how a beta guy would be if he was with a higher SMV girl. If a chick can’t get you with her looks then she’s gonna use guile. The chemicals messing with you are amplified by the guilt she’s created. It’s not real. The phase out is important so the chemicals get diluted by new girls.
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I said baby where is the ashtray luz
she said sorry and came runnin with it
he he he
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saw the wolf of wallstreet had one solitary tear slide out at the lack of freedom
I did start fucking in middle of movie somewhere just too much pussy runnin round decent movie
can we get a writeup?
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I’ve always thought how the Chateau seducer Lord would smile , you said some things in the 2010/01/26/are-pickup-artists-wrong-about-the-benefits-of-smiling post
“Examining my own successful pickups, I can recall not smiling much at all for at least half of them. Maybe a coy smirk, after introductions were made, but certainly my face was not shining brightly with the happy, smiley glow of a motivational speaker working the audience. I’ve always thought that the advice for men to smile was a bit overblown”
But there’s so much to body language to put on mere words, from my own experience the best smile (in a pickup context) is a smile that recruits the minimum possible facial muscle fiber while stretching both ends of the lips like a sexy masculine Mono Lisa, i guess this how psychopaths smile.
Hannibal Lecter, Patrick and Normam Bates can be used as good templates for compliance smiles if you dial down the creepiness and tilt your head up, since a psycho smiles with a downwards inclined head
Or is this a case for a Bruce Willis smirk?
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Yes the psychopath smirk or ryan gosling smirk will get your dick wet. maximum points if it’s genuine. Mine is always genuine especially after sex when I have a woman’s dried up juices still adhesed to my member.
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@CH If you’re in a relationship with a girl who is about to go study abroad in Europe (aka possible cock carousel of the euro strange D) how would you handle breaking things off while maximizing the chances of her coming back to you when she returns in 4 or so months?
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Slap her face with your dick.
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Make her slap her own face with it
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/2068583124/
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Your mom does it every night..with whatever 3 gorillas are running a train on her that evening.
Rape!
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depends how close you are. do you love each other? is she smitten? then schedule a couple of visits and trust that she’ll stay faithful during her time there. 4 months isn’t too long that faithfulness isn’t feasible or is asking too much.
otoh, if the relationship is fresh, and you sense she could be the type to stray, preempt her and say “ya know, neither of us is ready for this long-distnace thing. maybe if we were in a different place it could work. so let’s take a break while you’re away and see where we are in 4 months.”
if she’s into you, that push will get her worked up and she’ll be thinking about you for at least the first two months.
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I respect those answers. But, I’m surprised you say visit her one or two times.
[CH: or vice versa. Look, a trip to europe is fun no matter what the reason. If you’re enjoying yourself you won’t seem very needy. flirt with the local girls. your american accent alone will give you a bit of leverage.]
That makes me seem needy…Shouldn’t she be the one visiting me back home…I just want to avoid her fucking around and me flying over there at the same time–regardless of love i think female’s nature would allow that promiscuity especially during ovulation…also what are the signs a girl is smitten or in love again? b/c i’ve thought a girl was and it turned out to be the opposite. Briefly help me out here
[your girlfriend will ovulate hundreds of times if you stay with her for a lifetime. let’s not get carried away with the implications of each ovulation.
anyhow, if your girlfriend is in love she won’t bear to be without you for long. is she feeling lovesick about leaving you? will she skype you as soon as she lands? just keep an ear open for any communication channels shutting down.]
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At a deep level, feminine compliance takes any babe back to her daddy-daughter daze.
The more one replicates that dynamic the more you’re able to drill down into her ‘inner naif.’
Daddy always asked her to perform s i m p l e, e a s y tasks; after which she would be given some l i g h t emotional strokes.
Her default mode after such micro-dramas is to wait for daddy’s next command… and in this way replicate the daddy-mommy dynamic that she sees every evening.
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Good insight.
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Girls love doing things but only for guys they see as high value. It’s a good measure of how tight your game is if the girl is doing what you ask.
I’ve gotten girls to do things for me they never have or would with other guys: cook, clean, fuck, etc etc….Most of the time it was an “assume the sale” and when I got push-back or shit-tests it was “I’m the man you’re the woman” response which always brought a laugh or a pause with “hmmmm…right”.
if there was further push-back it was a sign things were heading south.
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Whorefinder doesn’t assume the sale. Whorefinder assumes the rape!
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Long, long ago I did exactly this with a girl I really liked, but who really didn’t like me, only the hoop was non-trivial. It was a big, hard job and she did it and she hated me even more after she did it. I never did figure out how to translate the animosity into attraction and she _still_ hates me to this day, decades later. I don’t think I ever lost my frame but I do wish I could figure out what I did wrong.
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Last summer was at an outdoor bar. Chick comes up and asks me to buy her a drink. I knew her so it wasn’t quite some unsolicited bimbo looking for a free ride (though to be straight up, she was looking for a free ride, it’s just that I knew her and she thinks I’m cool). Told her “No, don’t think so, are your legs broken or something and you can’t walk to the bar”. Got the mouth open “wtf?” look from her for a second then a smile and she turned to go buy her own drink. I stopped her as she was leaving and gave her three bucks and said “Hey, while you’re at the bar bring me back a beer too”.
Another “wtf? OMG!” look, then a bigger smile. She brought me back a drink.
Women, heh, so predictable it’s a wonder that men need instructions nowadays to deal with them.
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Stumbled across this article. Don’t know anything about the guy, but this article makes him an ally in The Cathedral.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-thought-police-on-patrol/2014/04/10/2608a8b2-c0df-11e3-b195-dd0c1174052c_story.html?tid=pm_pop
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I knew a natural. One of his techniques was to ask a girl to do him a favor. For instance, he met a girl from Texas who was going home for a holiday and asked her to bring back a pair of Texas boots for him. They ended up having a brief but passionate affair.
He used it on guys too, eventually gathering quite a posse around him. He’d ask for a favor, or offer to do you a favor, after learning a bit about you or your interests. For instance, I mentioned I had an old camera. He offered to get it valued by a contact of his (and left it in the trunk of his car for months). I’m not sure what the psychology was, but I suspect there’s some kind of control thing going on.
This was a guy who would sometimes screw four different women in a day. I lived in the same house as him and I’ve seen it.
He had other techniques, but I noticed that doing a favor was something he used quite soon after meeting someone.
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This is standard stuff from the type of influence that Cialdini teaches. Cialdini says that when someone thanks you for a favor you did for them, you should reply “I’m sure that if the tables were turned you would do the same thing for me.”
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Can’t link it right now but there’s a recent RSD vid that goes I to this stuff and describes basically how the fastest way to build a deep bond with someone (men or women) isn’t to do THEM favors, it’s to get them to do YOU a favor.
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yea ever since I haven’t been driving been picking up more friends lol asking rides and shit
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And even if she does continue to refuse, the sparkle in her eyes as she says no gives it away. Either way, you win.
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