Valued commenter Reservoir Tip relays,
I’ve been toying with this game method for a little while now, and think it’s pretty solid.
When a date and I are sitting down, I grab her keychain, and say, “Ya know… You can tell a lot about a girl by what she keeps on her keychain.”
Sucks them right in. Then you go on to analyze all the little trinkets she keeps on it. College girls’ keychains are practically cat o nine tails with all the junk they have hanging off them. Found a girls AA token on a keychain last night, and it had her qualifying herself to me for the next ten minutes.
Keychain Game.
As practical game advice, the phrase “You can tell a lot about a girl by [X]” (or its variant, “I can tell a lot about you by [X]”) is highly concentrated and purified chick crack.
Chick crack is any conversation topic or titillating segue that engages girls so powerfully they forget to act bored or shit test you. Cold reads like Keychain Game fall into this category, as does any ruse which implicitly recognizes a girl’s natural solipsism and entrancement with her own uniqueness.
The best thing about chick crack, besides its ability to pry taciturn pouters, are the opportunities for negs, teasing and disqualifications once the girl starts giddily reveling in her psychological diagnosis. Per Mr. Tip, the more a girl loves herself, the better you can leverage her self-love into self-surrender.
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GBFM IN COFFEE SHOP: I Canz tellsz a lot about a girlz by her clit chainz.
GIRL ON IPAD: Really?
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“the more a girl loves herself, the better you can leverage her self-love into self-surrender”
Could you please elaborate? Is that as opposed to insecure girls?
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More like, she lets her guard down. It’s pretty cool, because you are simply asking her to do so, asking her to tell you personal things about herself. And she wants to do it.
But grabbing the keychain and thereby ripping her guard away from her helps too. I suppose it would be better to browse her diary (do girls still keep diaries?) but that’s unlikely to be available for your inspection on first meeting.
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> “It’s pretty cool, because you are simply asking her to do so, asking her to tell you personal things about herself. And she wants to do it.”
And once you get her in that mode, you need to gently but firmly guide the conversation towards something sexual.
Get sex on the table.
The earlier the better.
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Re: grabbing the keychain and ripping guards away etc. – I would add (mainly for tadpoles new to game) that if this goes the other way – girl grabs anything of yours and starts examining it, making comments on it etc. – you’ve got a major IOI and it’s time to lean out and push, disqualify. Put another way, you can tell a lot about a girl by what she grabs.
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“the more a girl loves herself”
When a girl says she “loves herself” you want to run the other way. They’re all nuts, and I mean certifiably nuts, including psychiatric medication.
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Practice your Game on the crazy ones in anticipation of [someday] meeting that truly special little snowflake whom you want to settle down and make babies with.
Also, ALL chicks get crazy from time to time, even the best of them.
So the more practice you have in dealing with “crazy”, the better of a husband and father you will be.
Someday.
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This.
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> “Chick crack is any conversation topic or titillating segue that engages girls so powerfully they forget to act bored or shit test you.”
This sort of thing has always come naturally to me, but if you hang with some friends to whom it does NOT come naturally, then boy, does it make you cringe to listen to them stick their feet in their mouths and make complete fools of themselves as they blather on and on and on about what they think OUGHT to be chick crack.
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Keychain is also the name of a LS Pua.
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Jewelry inspection is similar.
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Even better was Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh‘s comment:
“It’s all good, babe. I’ve got a ‘lick her’ license.”
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I posted about my severe case of oneitis last week. I was so in love that it made me sickly when she started to pull back saying that she let things go too serious. And then her texts and phone calls became less frequent.
Anyway, I found something to help me–by taking advantage of a hot lead and getting laid today. And I’m seeing Ms. Oneitis tonight to boot.
Normally in my AFC days I would be suffering pangs of conscience and all that bullshit. Courtship seems to have changed dramatically in the 15 years that I was in a MLTR.
I’m still in love with the oneitis girl though. But now I can cope better.
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> “suffering pangs of conscience”
I would NOT lie to Ms Oneitis about this.
You can engage in all sorts of evasive tactics, but don’t lie and say, “No.”
SHE: “So, are you seeing anyone else right now?”
YOU: “Gosh, I’m sorry, remind me again about our wedding and us getting married and all that rollicking good fun we had on our honeymoon. Especially the wedding night. Tell me about that. How many orgasms you had and how it hurt to walk the next day…”
The reason I say not to lie is because if you decide that you really do want to settle down with her and make her your second wife, and get some children out of her, then it makes for so much better of a foundation for your relationship if you’ve never lied to her.
Of course, I’m not a sociopath.
A True Alpha Sociopath would lie through his teeth to her.
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Only response you should ever give to such questioning is some variant of “isn’t it a bit early to be angling for a Ménage à trois?”
“Why are you so interested in other women?”
“Yeah, maybe you two could collaborate on a breakfast for me.”
Etc
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I’m somewhat dealing with a case of Onetis at the moment. How were you able to reel her back in to see her tonight?
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We basically have good rapport even though she is basically in the process of what is appearing to be putting me in the friendzone.
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dude, if you care like you say you GOTTA soft next her. NOW.
walk. go dark. the only way to get her invested is to get her to invest.
say nothing and fucking WALK.
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I can try that, sure.
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I would try the pre-emptive FriendZone Strike.
Do not let her frame the relationship.
In the wise words of Steve in the “Tao of Steve” (a fun, semi red-pill movie), “Be Desireless. Be Excellent. Be Gone.”
Meet up with her, drinks, whatever. When the rapport you speak of it at its pinnacle, look at your cellphone and tell her “I really gotta get going. I only thought we’d be out a couple hours, so I made late night plans”.
Her hamster will run wild. Of course, your “plans” can mean catching up on some internet or Netflix at home. Doesn’t matter. You have your own frame, your own life, your own mission. Own it.
Be the man and own the frame. She lives in your reality. Never forget that.
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Congrats. It’s a seriously tough lesson to learn.
My older friend who blew it with his oneitis was out with her last night. And she’s still letting it be known that there’s an extremely short list of candidates for her revenge fuck, so I moved to the other side of the bar. Unfortunately, she ends up next to a younger guy with natural game. So my older friend, after he finishes closing his bar, slowly insinuates himself between them and does his incredible mate-guarding pose.
He sits on a barstool, turns directly towards her, splays out his arms and legs so she can’t see anyone past him. Hilarious, but I felt bad for the guy.
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> “splays out his arms and legs so she can’t see anyone past him”
Any kino?
Or was there always space between them?
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Thank you. I think it was a good experience nonetheless. It’s helped me develop antibodies for the next time it happens.
The biggest red flag of all should be this: if a girl talks about bad boyfriends in the past and how she wants to find that nice guy, it really means that as soon as she finds a nice guy (like in the case of me), she probably grows quickly bored of it.
I don’t hate this Oneitis girl (I’ve had worse heartbreaking experiences in high school), I think the first half of our courtship was extremely affectionate and nurturing. She is easily a 9/10 in looks.
I had fun fucking that other girl today. There’s no strong emotional attachment here–she has plainly said that she sees me as a FWB.
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fuck letting her go….recalibrate and fix it. you get about 4 shots of oneitis IMO and then it all gets fucking grey and fuzzy FAST because you can’t unsee what you have seen.
a man can lose his ability to bond as easy as a woman can.
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I’ve had oneitis way more often than that.
I’m making peace with myself with letting her go. Maybe I’ll go dark and see what her reaction is.
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I’m referring to of course experiencing oneitis over the course of my lifetime.
But this case is the first time since I’ve started dating again.
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” if a girl talks about bad boyfriends in the past and how she wants to find that nice guy”
And how exactly did you miss that big ass red flag?
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In my defense, I am a n00b.
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Emotional attachment and loving and all that is like at least half the fun. Just learn how to do it without being a bitch. Til is right tho. Strongest frame wins….just get back in there. Follow every one of those 16 rules religiously. Watch what happens.
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@Single40NewtoPUA
Wow…this is exactly what I was posting 4-5 months ago.
Many here were extremely helpful in directing me to things like “The Soft Next”.
It’s now been exactly 3 months since I told my “Oneitis” to fuck off after she contacted me in a panic when I went away for holidays. I discovered she’d been lying to me and I called her out on it, then texted her to fuck off.
Yes…it was verbose and came off as “butt-hurt” but…for the majority of that relationship I had tight game and she couldn’t do enough for me when I pulled back: gifts, calls, dressing up, etc etc….
So the latest is I went out to my weekly social event, blanked her as I have been and noticed that she was doing everything to get in my line of vision: making eyes (i’d look through her) She hung around where I was sitting (I got up and talked to another girl) she was deliberately studying a flyer for another concert I’m organizing.
I didn’t do this to punish her…I did it to avoid being sucked back into a drama that would only result in my inner game being thrown off course.
Oneitis comes from a place of neediness and scarcity. The minute you think you can’t do better or you’re working harder than her to “Fix” things…girls will sense this.
After my break-up I started seeing another girl—younger, cute, nice. I got her to dress up, bang, cook….then she started getting demanding and clingy so I pulled back. Now she calls, texts all the time and I just reply whenever I feel like it or don’t.
Take some time to read all you can about Cluster B girls…read all you can about the “Soft Next” then focus on some project or yourself.
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I was looking at my Oneitis’ facebook page, and her photographs just brought a twinge of pain in my stomach.
I’ll just avoid her for the sake of my sanity and preserving my dignity from here on out.
I’ll continue to date the nice, fun, FWB girl though. And I’ll work on finding another girl to date on the side as well.
The next 6 weeks of my life are extremely busy anyhow, so that is my mission.
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Good judgement here.
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> “nice, fun, FWB”
Okay, I’m not seeing what the problem is with that chick.
Why don’t you put some buns in her oven, and to hell with that crazy Oneitis bitch?
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A little follow through would be useful.
Some broad categories of teasing comment and whatnot?
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Teasing is good.
If she has tons of shit on her keychain, which she probably will, then you say something like, “oh wow… You’ve gotta be a wreck.”
Nothing on it? “Well, there’s nothing wrong with a simpleton.”
Keychain from some vacation? “Ah… I see you like to travel. I like adventure too.” Who doesn’t like to travel? But she’ll think she’s special or something since you read it.
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> “Ah… I see you like to travel. I like adventure too.”
Push harder and make it more overtly sexual.
“Athens? Okay, don’t hate me on, but I just gotta ask, when you went down to the beach, did you take off your bikini top? Got any selfies? Oh come on, lemme look at em. You know you wanna show em to me. Yes you do.”
“Rio de Janeiro? I heard all the dudes down there are a little light in the loafers. Did you get lonely while you were there? Did you take to dating other chicks?”
“Nairobi? Oh Good God, don’t tell me that you got the Jungle Fever.”
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Ask her if she want’s to try out for the traveling squad. No guarantee she gets to go.
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“So about that Alpha-Delta-Pi pin on your bracelet – did you have to let your Big Sister spank you with the wooden paddle in order to earn it?”
“Yeah, I was wondering about that Susan G Komen pin on your bracelet – your right boob looks like a D-Cup, but your left boob seems like it’s only a C-Cup, and I was worried that maybe they had to excise a cancerous growth over there. Thank goodness it was just for your role in the fundraising.”
“That employee appreciation pin on your bracelet – for your five year anniversary – aren’t you getting bored to tears working at that place? Don’t you feel like a change of scenery? In fact, speaking of changes of scenery, this place sucks. Let’s get outta here and go have some fun.”
“Well, you know what they say about how the girls have to earn their Add-a-Beads. If you dress up as Little Bo Peep for me, then we can get started on you earning your 4H pin on that bracelet.”
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Bracelet = Key Chain = Whatever
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Hammered Jude Law getting denied the kiss, repeatedly:
http://cink.hu/igy-smackozik-reszegen-jude-law-zimany-lindaval-1561690316/all
“as does any ruse which implicitly recognizes a girl’s natural solipsism and entrancement with her own uniqueness.”
Even Jude Law can’t get laid when he’s so wasted that the girl doesn’t feel like a special snowflake lol
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In her defense:
1. He had an unfortunate picture come out that made his dick look tiny.
2. He’s way over his “It” boy moment and is in permanent “Ben Affleck-at-Gigli” phase.
3. He’s kinda known for going after low hanging fruit (Sienna Miller gets banged by everyone, his nanny was East London fugly), so this girl wants to try be higher than that.
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Also baldness really fucked that guy over.
It must suck to be go from 10/10 in aesthetics department to 6/10. If I was Law, I would pay for Hair Club for Men ASAP.
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ya, bald and a twink body is no bueno.
this kinda bald has a different outcome lol
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C’mon Couture is all that is male. He probably looks better bald.
Law was a pretty boy. I’m surprised he didn’t aggressively treat it when it first started. When your money is made by your looks, it’s different than a normal guy. That’s millions flushed down the toilet.
He probably had some kind of complication that made him reject the transplants. Joe Rogan talks about his failed transplants and how he is glad to shave it now although Joe is in the Couture high T category so he rocks it pretty well.
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@YaReally….he’s hammered… but also he appears really needy and not displaying that “amused mastery” of pausing…looking into her eyes and then pushing her away.
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My ex-girlfriend’s key chain was utterly ridiculous, had little stuffed animals attached to it and shit
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> “little stuffed animals”
Yikes.
My armchair quarterback’s analysis is that it’s probably a good thing she’s your ex.
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On the other hand, if she had a rabbit’s foot on her keychain, then you could make some breeding-like-rabbits wisecrack.
If you could hold uber-strong frame and stare her down the entire time:
“About that Rabbit’s Tail: So, does Mama Rabbit like Big Daddy Rabbit to mount her from behind to put the little Baby Bunnies inside of her? And yank back real hard on her big rabbit ears while he’s doing it?”
Move in for the kino and grab her hair and pull back on it gently but firmly as you say, “Yank back real hard…”
But only if you could hold uber-strong frame throughout.
Staring her squarely in the eyes.
Deep, deep voice.
Do not let your voice waiver.
Nor allow any of the muscles in your face to spasm or to squirm as you are saying it.
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one game tip that works sooooo good is simply….”i’m not from around here” said with a smirk.
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This seems usable. Is the line a response to something? At what point do you use this in the convo? Right after first hello’s?
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smaller the town the better, and as soon as you can. ask anything. remember that disparate DNA to a young, small town girl is hindbrain chickcrack.
just watch your 6…..lolol.
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Well done you devil you
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lol copywrited and comments are a lunchroom foodfight
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Not lol. It’s weak and cowardly, even though it’s true. It’s a sign of fear.
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..fear of idiots fucking your shit up…here’s my ice cream sandwich in your face..
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No. It’s smart and overdue and the main Proprietor is about to make good money for being on the ball.–
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One thing that I often say is when I find out about a girl’s passion or hobby or job: “What inspired you to become a xxxx (dancer, teacher, banker, florist)?”
Often times they’ll either light up and gush about liking kids…or they’ll shut down and say “I don’t know….”
The “I don’t know….” is a sign of low self-esteem. This is where I can either neg or probe further.
I met a girl the other night from Tinder: smoking hot…
We played Krauser’s “The Questions Game”—I ask something, she asks something.
In a move to sexualize the chat I asked her: “When you were a kid what was the naughtiest thing you ever did?”
She hesitated and said “I was always a good girl….”
I prodded her “Oh right…they all say that…”
Then she smiled and told me this story about coming from a poor village in her country and her mom gave her a gold chain as a keep-sake. She wanted money to play around so she started to pawn off sections of the gold chain until it went from a huge chain to basically a choker. Her mom the asked for the chain back to sell it because the family needed money and of course all that was left was a portion of what she was given. So she went to Daddy and asked him not to tell mommy….
I’m sitting there smiling…. and thinking “HOLY SHIT!!!!” she finally tells me that Daddy told Mommy and of course Mommy freaked out etc etc…
Great story….uh er.
I k-closed her…and she pulled back saying “I just met you….” Of course I realized that demure attitude was a complete lie and a front.
I said we’d meet up next time I was in town and her face lit up.
I learned so much in such a short time about this nutcase….and it was a blast.
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More bad game advice from women. This is about how NOT to do text game.
I would suggest reading this….and doing the EXACT opposite.
Check out “?” which is a variation of my “…” ellipsis game contribution…
Again what is interesting for me…is how this is written very “logically” but as I have come to understand in the last 4 years of learning game…relationships and game are counter-intuititive.
“…” works BECAUSE it creates doubt, questions….women don’t want certainty….they want surprises. “I had a great time too…” is predictable.
http://ilovemylsi.com/texts-never-send-her/
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“I met a girl the other night from Tinder: smoking hot…”
I gather young men need to fancy themselves as less than yesterdays paper to get an “IN” with a girl these days. How does one bend themselves so low as to become a member of the tinder box? In my day, we had to beat off the womenz with a stix! But never did we consider ourselves the stix!
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Field Report
I accidentally AMOG-ed a guy at a bar where I dance. Wasn’t doing pickup. He doesn’t dance and I danced with his girl (HB7) a bunch. She loves to dance and majored in dance in college. Eventually, she and I were chatting and her back was to him for several minutes. She was leaning in to me and telling me details about where she worked, etc. The chick was complimenting me on leading her, etc. When I realized what was going on, I departed their company, then they quickly left as well.
There were three women peacocking for me today at my eye doctor. When I arrived I casually shifted my gaze between them, smiling. The redhead manager (HB7) did a bend and snap. The brunette (HB6) did the profile view center stage with her finger twirling her hair by her ear. The blonde held my gaze and smiled. She continually looked at me and moved to be close. I just smiled at the display. Pretty cool. I’ll have to ask one of them who won the beauty contest. 🙂
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oddly
ive noticed when im wearing a wire
my game is tighter
mtv realworld had a divergent thinking spicing something?
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this dude wore a wire to bust ten people for local police then turned around and got put in jail by fbi who didn’t care what work he did for local talk about fucked
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Snitching rarely works to your advantage.
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[…] Valued commenter Reservoir Tip relays, I’ve been toying with this game method for a little while now, and think it’s pretty solid. […]
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Always a good ploy: get her talking about her jewellery; she will talk nonsense about its supposed meaning. Try not to fall asleep as she witters on, and then use the opportunity to gaze down her cleavage (to get a closer look) or handle it – the jewellery – yourself. Of course when she realises what you are up to, she will either become very embarrassed or angry. Serves her right for wearing such inappropriate clothing.
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that’s what chicks do all the time though compliment and talk about something the other chick is wearing
ever been in bed look over your girl laying on stomach sleeping and your just like god dam that’s a nice ass
I was mesmerized trying to appreciate the little things he he he
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Beta of the month nominee:
http://surprisecatherine.com
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I love this. Dude is showing off his design skills w/ a nice looking website. He is showing off his power over others — his social standing. He’s demo-ing high value.
Granted, he’s probably super beta. But what he is doing does not HAVE to be beta. If handled the right way this is a pretty good DHV.
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…looks like he loves him some catherine..
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The fuckin’ shnoz on that broad… yeesh.
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When a date and I are sitting down, I grab her keychain, and say, “Ya know… You can tell a lot about a girl by what she keeps on her keychain.”…..reminds me of my own…you can tell a lot about someone by the way they kiss
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I discovered the one way this could backfire….I tried this on a girl who was wearing an interesting piece of jewellery—a key around her neck.
I said, “Interesting, what does this unlock?”
Her: “Hahahah, I don’t know…my boyfriend gave it to me…”
I had to reframe this into “Let’s imagine….”
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Hey walawala, would like your analysis on a text change (short). A little background: girls bi-polar, a 7, has built resentment over time through our text exchanges.
We text for a little beforehand.
Me: “So what does Miss XXX want from Santa this year”
Her: “Nothing. Bye.”
WTF. What steps would I take next? Move on and cut the losses? Text back later?
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@Ferret bi-polar and has built up resentment? serious? Why bother.
These girls are always going to be trouble. Game can’t fix problems and really only works on girls who WANT to be gamed.
If I text a girl twice and don’t get a response I leave it. If she reconnects I proceed with caution, one-word texts hours later.
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Keychain game..Good God, I can’t believe I never thought of this. This, this is why I come to this blog. It’s the simple things really.
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Field Report: Chick Pair Dance Instruction Game
Was dancing at my country bar. Not running pickup, but was trying out my dance instruction game. At about midnight, a PUA there I know saw two blond HB8 chicks at a bar and commented that it’s hard to approach two’s cuz they like to stick together. So I approached them, lol. They wanted to learn how to dance but wanted to do some drinking first. P (Drinking and dancing don’t mix well.) They asked where I was sitting and I told them. They said they’d look me up later. Maybe they wouldn’t be too drunk to remember where I was sitting, lol. I danced with other chicks and about a half hour later, one of them comes to me and asks me to teach her. So I hug an HB7 I know (who’s kind of full of herself, but whatever) who’s leaving and wants a hug, then go to give blondie a lesson.
She’s pretty drunk, but she’s trying hard and she has these HUGE tracts of land–I’m talking E-cups. Poor thing suffers from hypermammiferosity. And she’s not a fattie, but she’s very muscular–was a college athlete. So, I give her a lesson for about half an hour. Finally, she starts singing to a song that was playing about kissing goodnight, looking me in the eyes. (I’m thinking, “lolz, sorry, babe, you’re not riding my cock.”) But she really does try to learn how to dance. She probably was looking for a cock-jockey, too. It’s around 1 a.m. and she’s drunk, after all. Finally she remembers that she’s looking for a cock-jockey and realizes that I’m not gonna play and she thanks me and goes back to her table. Gonna ask that PUA next week about how hard it is to break up chick pairs. 🙂
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This is really good. I do it all the time without even thinking about it. Keychains, handbags, shoes. Oh boy do they really open up. Gives you lots of ammo to work with.
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