COTW winner is YaReally, who summarizes the best use of a group of hapless men guarding their prized quarry.
Take their girl.
You’re cooler than them by default simply because they’re so low-value to her that they’re her orbiters, and you’re the bright shiny new object. Just ignore her and chat with them, then tease her when she tries to get your attention and she’ll choose you and demand more of your attention. If you choose her, they can “protect” her and kick your ass…but if she chooses you, there’s nothing they can do about it because she’ll defend you from them. All they can do is go home and cry themselves to sleep, then Google “how do I get this one special girl I’m in love with??” and end up on their way to enlightenment lol
The shiv is strong in this comment. Congrats Ya. Your Golden Shiv trophy is waiting for you at the Chateau reception desk.
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First COTW runner-up is EdwardWaverley, who writes a poem about a girl who secretly yearns for the grimy nonconsensual love of a street bum.
Tramp Seeks Tramp
I don’t want a beta provider
a simpering resource divider.
I won’t love a dashing young turk,
nor even a debonair jerk.To render me gasping agape
I need to experience rape.
I know ’round the mountain I’d come
to play rape with the neighborhood bum.As he stumbles alluringly near
with his gin-addled grin and his leer,
and accosts me without my permission,
all the dregs of my id start to wishin’that he’ll yank me right into his alley
to assault my near-quivering valley.
Though I’m trying to straighten my dress
and to vocalize “no,” I’m a messof frightfully strange contradictions.
And I’m finding that civil restrictions
are a cramp to my hideous kink,
that I wonder what mother would thinkcould she see me receiving attentions
from nefarious, strange uber-menschen
in a dark semi-public demesne?
Better not to examine that veinup too close. Yet it’s dreadfully clear
that an open-air climax is near!
If this fantasy goes any further
I may wind up a homeless man’s birther!But enough! I can’t think any longer
of my rapey mysterious schlong-er.
(He’d be homeless, and horny, and free!
And he’d long just to rape only me!)I’ve resigned myself simply to ponder
a vague thought of felicity yonder.
With my husband I’ll gladly play dumb
as I secretly yearn for a bum.
Stirring. I would pay good money to watch a prankster recite this on-stage just after a feminist slam poetess had finished her dull harangue.
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Second COTW runner-up is Just Saying, who reminds the dudio audience that giving a woman even an ounce of control is a recipe for romantic failure.
Women HATE making decisions or being in control – so don’t let her. Tell her where to be, and when to be there. If she is – great, if not you should have others lined up and it’s her loss. I have had a woman blow me off and my last text to her was a – “Sorry to miss you. Met someone, we’re off.” Suddenly my phone exploded with texts – which I ignored till the next day since I was with someone and they took precedence. The next time she was there – on time, and I banged her. You always have to be willing to walk on a woman – other wise they get full of themselves, and NO WOMAN is worth your dignity.
Being her pet monkey sending her photos with her name on it [re: James Franco], is BS – she showed it to all of her GF’s and laughed at you. No women is worth that – I would have sent her a canned photo of an old GF’s butt that I keep for such occasions with the verbiage – KISS THIS.
Depedestalization is a prerequisite to seduction. Of course, you can fake the pedestal funk to charm women, but really feeling the weight of that pedestal in your bones is a burden that will pollute any charm offensive you take.
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Finally, the COTW consolation prize is awarded to Waffles.
One of the first dates with my now GF of over a year, we were discussing what to do after we got food etc. I said something along the lines of “you can just drop me at my car tomorrow morning”, she said something like “Oh, what makes you think you’re coming back to my place?” Channeling the teachings of CH I smirked and said “Always assume the sale”. Sure enough went back to her place. We’ve been dating over a year now and live together. She STILL brings up that comment “always assume the sale” with sparkles in her eyes and tingles galore.
There is so little game in the world, and so few men practicing the art of game, that a little bit goes a long way. So long, in fact, that a woman will remember a cocky line spoken years earlier as the prelude to a deep and wonderful romance.
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Waffles,
Many years ago, I had learned a lilttle “game” (Ross Jeffries, The Art of Seduction), and I applied some of the techniques to the woman who was to become my girlfriend at the time. I made myself “less available”.
almost 20 years later, she tells our kids that “she picked me”, and that “I would never call her back” and that I’m “lucky that she was so determined”
It’s magic, simply magic.
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> “Channeling the teachings of CH I smirked and said “Always assume the sale”.”
The fascinating super-category here is to EXPLAIN to her how you are gaming her as you are gaming her.
“Blah blah blah” – okay that was my soft-neg.
“Yada yada yada” – okay that was my reassurance that I can also be tender.
“Blah blah blah” – okay that was me passing your shit-test and proving that I won’t take any crap from you.
“Slide in for contact” – okay, that was my kino.
Etc etc etc…
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“The fascinating super-category here is to EXPLAIN to her how you are gaming her as you are gaming her.”
I hardly talk. Chicks chase me.
““Slide in for contact” – okay, that was my kino.”
HB7 was bumping her ass into me last night while dancing. Another HB7 was kinoing my biceps as I walked her back to her seat after a dance. And colliding with me a few times during the dance, smiling.
I smiled at them during our dances. And I flaked on them afterwards, lol.
Let the chicks chase and do the kino. Flake on them occasionally.
Once I asked a group of fatties if any of them wanted to dance. I’ll dance with any woman, including fatties. Dancing helps turn fatties into HB’s sometimes. Anyway, none of them knew how to dance or wanted to learn, but they kept trying to keep me there by making it look like one of them might want to learn. Stupid chick shit. I walked and didn’t look back.
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“Dancing helps turn fatties into HB’s sometimes.”
This is incorrect. But fatties (by fatties I mean slightly chubby as in ~15 or 20lbs of cushion, no more) are great training wheels to learn what a woman truly in love with a man above her SMV acts like.
But the greatest part is, if you act beta even with the fattiest of the fat, they’ll start misbehaving eventually.
Women’s revulsion of betas is truly astounding.
As an aside, I don’t treat females with more than 20lbs over their optimum figure as humans. They are like furniture, my brain doesn’t notice them unless they bump into me. If they talk to me, I’m usually quite surprised and insulted, and simply move away.
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Recently [rerun again last night], Sean Hannity was doing a segment on the debauchery of the modern Spring Break, and, while they chicks in the video weren’t bowl-of-jello fat, every one of those heifers in their bikinis looked like they were [at a minimum] playing varsity softball or rowing varsity crew.
I.e. no “ballerinas” amongst them:
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/01/hannity-uncovers-wild-behavior-spring-break-florida
Apparently Jon Stuart “Stewart” LEIBOWITZ was not pleased:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/10/jon-stewart-sean-hannity-spring-break_n_5124398.html
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I know one who moved from HB4 to HB6 and climbing. Married, but getting hotter. She packages herself well.
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> “Chicks chase me.”
I don’t know whether all dudes can get there on attitude alone.
Maybe.
It always helps if you’re reaonably handsome and tall and physically fit.
But for the dudes who are downright ugly, short, and pudgy, my guess would be that they’re gonna have to move in for a little interaction and conversation and proof-of-worth horseshit Game.
Which, long term, might be more valuable than mere handsome and tall and physically fit.
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Tall handsome guys also tend to be more beta than those who are less physically blessed.
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Well, I used to be an 8, but probably a 6 anymore with the aging skin. Sun will do that. Medium height. 30 lbs. overweight, but I have some muscles. I carry it well.
It’s more attitude–posture, walk, body language, how my eyes scan my surroundings. Say little and make it important. Sure, convo some when chicks start chasing. I have dance game and that helps DHV. I have DHV in daytime, too. Got three hotties competing for my attention in the Dr.’s office.
Last night an HB10 was qualifying me to her friends. Complimenting me all up and down about my dancing and saying that I danced better than she did. Kind of a reverse shit test. I think that only one other guy even approached her.
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Bum Game! Thats gold,Jerry,GOLD!
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> “I would pay good money to watch a prankster recite this on-stage just after a feminist slam poetess had finished her dull harangue.”
Heartiste, the truly scary thing is that some nutjob YKWess femcunt – like a Lena Dunham or a Sarah Silverstein [or WTFE her name is] – is likely to grab EdwardWaverley’s poem and run with it.
Compare:
S.F. women’s rights advocate accused of raping wife
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3143561/posts
“While attorneys for a women’s rights advocate and prominent Twitter engineer accused of raping her estranged wife say the accuser is “out for revenge,” a friend who says she was present after the incident said Friday that the wife just wants to teach her children that criminals must face justice…”
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Even better is to bring a HB winggirl with you to chat up the beta orbiters. Preselection and competition come into play.
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Here’s something interesting I’m observing…
Began a thing with this super cute receptionist at work. Now she won’t stop giving me the eyes every time I pass, and I do pass her by a lot through the course of a day.
This has suddenly changed the amount of respect I am getting from the top boss, as soon as he noticed her giving me the eye.
I sell for a huge construction firm, and was recently promoted to work right under the CEO. He basically treats almost everyone like shit.
He wasn’t treating me like shit though… just that we spoke to-the-point. But now suddenly, for the past couple of days, I’m getting a lot more respect from him.
Makes me think he wanted to bang her too… maybe even made a pass but failed.
Reminds me of something someone once told me… Take a hot secretary to business meetings, and you’ll get twice the respect.
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While obviously this isn’t quite the same thing… it is somewhat similar.
Getting hot girls is one of the easiest way to show everyone who’s truly Alpha in any social circle.
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It’s even more alpha if it’s obvious that the HB’s are chasing you.
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> “Getting hot girls is one of the easiest way to show everyone who’s truly Alpha in any social circle.”
Although be prepared for the jealous sniping little Beta cunts who will try to cut you off at the knees.
The pioneers take the arrows.
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In fact, it’s pretty shocking how Betas can get all catty just like women.
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The difference is, beta male backbiting tends to (heh) backfire.
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Be careful with the Betas, though.
Particularly if they are in a position to do you some serious harm.
For instance, think long and hard before making your boss look like a fool.
Or any coworker who could sabotage your career if he decided to get vindictive.
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This. Never underestimate the intensity of butthurt betas experience. They aren’t stupid, and know that they are constitutionally failing at a very primitive, but rewarding game.
If I had a nickel for every beta doctor, accountant, engineer or other professional who went into their line of work so they could make money, and could thus convince a girl to bang them…well I wouldn’t be commenting here but rather making full use of Japan’s 13 year old age of consent.
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I think I can deal with a few butthurt betas if they ever rise to the occasion.
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I have to admit some of that is already beginning to happen. I seem to have a polarising effect on everyone. They either hate my guts (mostly milquetoasts) or love me.
I didn’t think I’d alienate a subgroup of people this easily again. Looking back, it always happens.
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it lingers gamely under the palate
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What is forgotten is that girls LIKE orbiters…it’s easy to get sucked into that endless Friendzone mentality…chasing the unicorn.
You see a girl with a bunch of guys and think…wow, one of those guys MUST be fucking her…but it’s rarely the case.
The last girl I was banging was laughing about the various dudes who used to hit on her: one particular case was a guy who bought her a glass of red wine which she proceeded to accidentally spill all over his white shirt.
instead of gaming her, asking her to pay the bill, the guy went home, changed and came back…the asked her to come over.
We both laughed at that…then I banged her again.
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I’d guess that:
p (n) = 1 / n^2
where n is the number of fan club chumps and p is the probability that any of them is fucking her.
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@walawala, your reports are superb. It’s encouraging for the rest of us to read what you have to say. For the older guys playing at home, you’re a more ‘mature’ guy yourself – are you finding any age limits to the girls you’re gaming? i’d say it would make a lot of older guys pretty uneasy to know what they could be capable of if they were willing to put their ego on the line.
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@Junior. Age limits? No. Types of girls…yes. I have banged a 25 year old nurse, other girls in their late 20’s. But it has to be girls who WANT a more mature guy and show it. Girls will make it clear through IOI’s. know what to look for and you know whether you’re in.
My ex gf was 34 when we started going out, now 35. The other girl I was banging for 4 months and then stopped was 34.
They may joke around about age, but if you’re well-dressed, professional and keep a more dominant frame with amused mastery I find that girls in their late 20’s, early 30’s are not hung up on age.
I’ve set an age limit of 34 now. I’m going to be late 40’s this year.
Some things I’ve done: refitted all my clothes, they’re tight, I look better.
I’ve started working on cool prominent projects that I lead in my social circle: concerts, shows…that also adds a cool factor and dominance.
I’ve consciously assessed why I allowed my ex gf to rope me in—where did that place of neediness come from? My inner game is now back to where I’m more comfortable.
I’m also adopting that “abundance mentality” written about recently. This is again based around the fall-out from the crazy girl…Why invest in hot girls who are crazy? I can do better than her…I’m focused more on what I want rather than worrying about my age.
I also use every interaction with women to practice game..teasing every girl I meet helps me to adopt that amuse mastery.
The more conditioned you get to positive reactions, the less self-conscious you’ll become.
When I get asked my age by these girls i’ll say: “I’m 60…” they’ll laugh.
When I get pushed I say: “Do you want a boy or a man?” This reframes things and sexualizes them.
I will say guess and 48. But they usually don’t care.
Some younger ones do, but they turn out to be the flighty flakey type I would only be chasing instead of being chased by anyway.
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@walawala
Props on your progress in general and taking control of your life even being “old” lol this is the difference between someone who steps up and chooses to handle their shit and someone who whines and cries about how life isn’t fair.
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@YaReally…thanks for the coaching. It had a few set backs but in the scheme of things got my balls back. Blank her completely. She was the one last week trying to get my attention.
But I have a question for you. I’m organizing a very unique concert, first of its kind. What do I do if she writes to book a ticket? I could use the money and everyone is welcome.
What if she books with her and another bloke?
These are two possible scenarios…your best advice.
Bear in mind that a “Fuck off” may be over-reacting and silence would mean I lose the sale and she could poison the well saying I’m not responsive.
How do I do this if…and I’m sure one of those scenarios pop up.
Thanks
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To any 40-ish+ (preferably married) guys,
Assuming you’re married and want to keep your vows, and you’re a natural who acts alpha out of his natural frame, how do you avoid leading women on without wearing a ring (which might trigger preselection)?
Background: I did pickup around 40 years ago when I was in my late teens. I’m not too physically attractive anymore. (Well, duh!) I’m working on a book about dance game (almost finished) and wearing a ring is often counterproductive.
I was chatting up an HB10 (late 20’s to early 30’s–hard to tell anymore, they all look young to me) this weekend at my dance bar whom I’ve danced with a couple of nights previously at the bar. HB10 gives off the chatty nun vibe–very nice, friendly, asexual. Works for a nonprofit as manager. Volunteers helping impoverished latinos. HB10 was winged by a couple from her church. (No wingman is gonna keep them from cockblocking.) I thought she was married but was shocked to find out she was single. She complimented me on my dancing ability (also to her wingcouple!), which is a strong IOI, right? We also were figuring out logistics about when we’d connect dancing again. All very platonic and boring on the surface. Was she giving subtle IOI’s of the seeking-BB variety? IMO, this chick is looking for a hubby. Talked about her with a player at the bar and he agreed with my assessment.
My birddogging instinct kicked in when I was surprised to learn HB10 was single. My alpha behaviors were further stimulated when HB10 was upqualifying me based on my ability to dance. I didn’t mention that I was married. (I need a way to say I’m married that isn’t boring or awkward and a convo-killer.) Otoh, I didn’t kino her off the dance floor or ask for her phone no.–not part of my married frame. I also don’t normally chat women up–I usually change partners every dance and I dance most of the time. If I need to cool down I’ll chat up other guys. So, self-examination is required. Surprise was key here. First, that she wasn’t married. Second, that she was showing IOI’s. This forced me to reevaluate my SMV, which turned out to be higher than my previous estimate. Third, I probably pedestalized her internally somewhat. (Doh!)
In light of my question, what ought I have done differently?
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@walawala – nice one, cheers for the response. Keep killin it.
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Talking of cocky lines, the one that resonates with my wife (yeah I know – sue me – started learning / using game 5 years ago) is ‘Yeah, good luck with that’ (with an amused smirk) when ever she starts flailing around in Delusionland and blurting out absurd proclamations.
It’s far from original but clearly generates huge tingles. It’s got to the point where all I have to do is give her a despairing sideways glance when ever she spouts some nonsence and she will grin sheepishly and say, ‘Yeah, yeah, I know – good luck with that!’
She’s generating the tingle without me even having to make the effort.
Crazy
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I use a very similar one: “Yeah, I’ll get right on that.” (Add half smirk, half eye roll).
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nice lol
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@Cadders
That might work for regular shit tests.
I have a different problem–insecurity tests. I’m reporting about my experience with Dread for the married guys out there.
I’m getting frequent insecurity tests from Mrs. Gamer since I used nuclear Dread on her–I told her that I was getting a gf to break her proloooonged sex strike. After two weeks she ended the sex strike and I ended the gf search. However, I still go out dancing at my bar for weight loss and for material for my book. Sometimes I’m out late, like last Sat. until 2 a.m. Mrs. Gamer needs real comfort, not wisecracks, what with the quiet sobbing in her bathroom.
I take Mrs. Gamer dancing once a week and she sees me dancing with chicks 40+, which terrifies her. If she saw me dancing with the chicks at the bar who are in their 20’s…. I can’t talk about it with her. And she imagines the worst. Nuclear Dread fallout is no fun.
Otoh, when Mrs Gamer isn’t conjuring fantasies about some supposed orgies I’m involved in, she’s constantly flirting with me. And joking about supposed gf’s.
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here is what ya do ya got to to tell her you totally own her then that no sex shit won’t happen but also to combat her fear got to tell her your gonna be together in the afterlife even not till death but forever
then her fear goes away some
chicks freak the fuck out when I take em home and my girl there they get scared but my girl don’t worry i’m gonna leave witht hat chick cause she know i’m coming back to bed with her that other chick got to go and it makes her happy
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[…] By CH […]
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Field Report: Dancing with Drunk Chicks
Last night at my country dance bar I asked a drunk woman to dance, but didn’t realize that she was drunk when I asked her. Her speech wasn’t slurred. And she was with a man. Anyway, when we danced, she led herself in turns—obviously drunk. At the end of the dance, she had my hand in hers and hugged it to her tit. Now, the dance floor was pretty empty. Anyone who was looking at us could see what happened. Luckily, we were facing away from her man. I dumped her off at her table and skeedaddled away as fast as I could. Don’t dance with drunk women. They can do crazy stuff and might get you thrown in jail or get you involved in fights. And vett women you don’t know to find out if they’re drunk before you ask them to dance.
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Thank you CH, you are helping poor souls, I know because I used to be one. I wish I would have known about CH in my younger years, but better late than never. “The force is strong with you, Like the little man who conquered a nation;
“Veni, Vidi, Vici”.
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I’ve used the first one so many times. You can joke with her by calling her team mom and shit like they. More often than not they enjoy the thrill of
It especially if she’s hiding it from
Them so as to not look like the whore she is.
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Just keep crossing off those ‘you know you’re an alpha’ points…
at a party, did some drugs, got dragged to the bathroom to TCB…in the middle I’m like ‘this is great, even better than the office…’ to which she’s like wait….the office….I don’t have an office. what the fuck? did you fuck some girl in an office recently?’
….and then I realize that everything is blurring together with these girls. My answer?
‘oh come on don’t be like that…let’s keep going…’
So then she starts in with the possible relationship talk, and I’m able to be 100% honest for the first time ever: I don’t know, I’m not ready to commit to anyone, but at the same time….I do want you to be mine.
Strongest frame wins: I’m fine with waiting, you know I’m all yours. I hope you feel the same way about me eventually….
I never added the last part before — the one way exclusivity. It’s sort of implied but never said.
Also no need to mate guard at the party because I was busy flirting with the girls and establishing myself as part of the leadership of the men. Cold approach is useful for developing the skill of walking into a party where no one knows you and coming out with them eating out the palm of your hand.
Here’s a general tactic anyone is free to try…
1) get good at preparing drugs
2) get good at smoking weed (smoke rings)
3) develop a libertarian philosophy
The first two get you an ear lent in the circle, the last one gets everyone thinking you’re some type of guru. By now you’ve DHV’d the fuck out of the group and the girlies are way into it. This is when you pick a girl and start talking to her.
YMMV
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don’t need drugs just put rum, gin, triple sec, peach schnapps, vodka, and blue curaco 8 ounces each in pitcher then get ice and red bulls pour glass bout 3/4 full from the pitcher and put a red bull upside down in it
liquid magic
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-takes notes-
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just saw the video today from my buddies girlfriend lol
I knew I told my chick to get under the table and start sucking my dick
but watchin on vid was cool
she climbed on my lap then slowly slid down to the floor he he he
it was pretty bad ass
they were like your still smoking a cigerrette wtf lol he took another drink
hahhahah
I was so cool while getting it done lilke it was normal mua mua hahahahah
but yea that dude 6,4 im 5.8 youd appreciate this he made bet that he wouldn’t pass out I was like i’ll take that bet then he tried to change it to which one of us passes out first or who can hang I said ok that’s cool
he always talk about having done every drug on planet and can drink\
but yea that night he fell out chair and was out for tko lol I said you getting up he was just good sitting on floor lol
we did start drinking bout 6 his girl came back at 11
but yea he actually stopped drinking said no more so I won 20 bucks
then was complaining cause he took his dick out and his girl didn’t go to town hes like how come I don’t get that
game baby get your bitch under control
my chick just no talking when I told her she just did it went right to town no backtalk nothing got to love the shit he he he
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then his girl today talkin bout losing weight so he can throw her around but she was sitting across from me to be my partner in card and wouldn’t move lol im like she wants you to pick her up
now I know how rum feels
dude was trying to swing the night before i’m like this right here is mine I own it
my girl the next day talkin bout it like yea he wanted to swing and you said you own me
all happy he h he
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Anybody here ever use Tinder?
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Noone here ever heard of it
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@Ovid…yes, I’ve used it. I’ve met two girls—both were domestic helpers/maids working here in Asia. But both were smoking hot. The thing about it is that you need good text game to get a number. But it’s the same as most dating sites, hit and miss…but very easy…just like or dislike.
Once you get a “match” I usually write something like “Hi, you look like trouble….” and then take it from there.
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Thanks.
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Forney attacked us. I responded on his site. I have no idea if he deletes my comment or not. But I gotz my own site and so I reposted it there.
http://demarkate.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/22-forney-go-fuck-yourself-you-huckster
I write what I think is well researched articles using published papers from academics and attempt to collate and rephrase them, as well as relate current events to research.
I don’t get paid a dime. And I put a lot of work and effort into it. I don’t have ads. And I don’t monetize. I haven’t announced to the world like Forney that my whole site is for sale. If someone doesn’t care for me, or my past, and chooses not to read me, hey, it’s a big internet. I think it will be your loss.
Kate is more than an attractive woman. She is good person. She has backed me to the wall, defied her family, and has been one of best friends and allies I have ever had in my life. If all women acted as she has and does then these sites would have a very slim readership.
She wanted us to start writing because she thinks there is maybe another way than segregation of genders, all out war between men and women.
If you run her down, disparage her, jump to conclusions without knowing then frankly it is your loss.
Any other writers that wish to continue to waste the time of everyone dragging over the coals, can come on. I got real thick skin by now.
My advice would be why don’t some of you just go ahead and write something that is beneficial to men, that help them to find some way forward, something that ADDS to the body of knowledge, just write your own stuff, and let the wisdom of the crowd decide if I have reason to contribute or not.
I will not let clicks drive what I write. I am not for fucking sale. And the basis of every post that I have and will put up will be some research I have found in the web. I have a coming series on depression that you would be a fool to miss.
I’m pretty sure, over time I will have a readership. And to dismiss me on what Forney or anyone else might say will be your own loss. They don’t know the whole story. They don’t know me. And they surely don’t know Kate or they would say the shit they do.
http://demarkate.com/index.php/2-uncategorised/22-forney-go-fuck-yourself-you-huckster
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I skimmed Forney (whoever that is)’s rant and felt embarrassed for him. WTF is that shit?
exactly as you say…acting like a teenage girl.
there was some faggot meetup of “manosphere” people?
GAY.
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Danny Edwards held a manosphere meetup in NO and there were managerial problems.
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I posted about my Oneitis
So my Oneitis ex-girlfriend (she has put me in the Friendzone) invites me to go out to a nightclub with her female friends where I would meet them for the first time. So I show up and we all make pleasant chit chat.
THREE TIMES I attempted to touch her hand and three times she coldly moves away, the final time where she angrily states that “we’re only supposed to be friends!”. So I ask her to dance and as soon as we go on the dance floor, her best friend tags along with the two of us and Oneitis completely does not engage with me.
So we all go back to our booth and then later on she asks the group to go on the dance floor again and I politely refuse.
I proceed to make eye contact with this very pretty blonde girl in her early 20s nearby. She smiles and then takes me out on the dance floor and proceeds to grind against me where Oneitis sees me.
Later on, Oneitis happily takes me to a one on one dance that is clearly more amicable.
When we return to our booth, I proceed to talk to the blonde girl where she is in a group of other young female friends and she grinds against me some more. I make pleasant talk with all of them for about 30 minutes.
I return to the booth where I was sitting at and Oneitis is now completely turned away from me while her friends also seem very uncomfortable looking away in the same direction for about another 30 minutes.
As we all leave the nightclub, I am not even bothering to walk close by to any of them and we just politely say goodbye as I return to my car.
What do you all think happened here? Was her rejection of my advances an extreme shit test? Was she really jealous or was it just my imagination?
I wonder if she’ll now burn all of the gifts that I’ve given to her.
Anyway, I now have 2 other girls on the go–the FWB girl who is texting me all the time, and a first date with what appears to be a reasonably attractive woman from OKCupid.
ALL I WANT IS A STABLE LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP. This world is pretty messed up. I’m now convinced that Heartiste is RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. I had no idea there was this world of loose party girls who are pretty easy to game (at least from my perspective). I’ve come from 15 years of continuous marriage, so all of this seems pretty new to me.
Being 40, how many more years of pickup do I reasonably have? One thing going for me is that I look much younger than my age suggests.
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“ALL I WANT IS A STABLE LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP”
this is where you are falling down. this statement alone is ruining your chances for ever having one in this culture. what you think, you act out in subtextual ways, and your beta behavior is a real turn off in a world where women have been taught and bribed to not think they need anything you offer.
i suggest reading more Rational Male before the Shiv Lord here.
you gotta unfuck your social conditioning and start to see through the Matrix before you can understand how to move in it, outside of it, and often dance through it like a ghost. CH is advanced tactics for the samurai of skin and you desperately need a yogi.
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When you’re right you’re right.
It’s a lot of fun though to romance and game women.
If the most beta conservative guy in the world (me) can turn into a cold hearted sociopath of seducer of women, then this world is really fucked up.
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Why are you going out with this chick at all?? You’re torturing yourself.
She’s caught between disliking your neediness (hand touching etc) yet wanting your orbiter attention (jealous reaction to seeing you game young blonde). There’s no rationality to this, trust me. If you ignore her for a while she’ll probably contact you. But why are you doing this to yourself?? Go forth and have fun for a while before settling down in a LTR.
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Well, at least I got to flirt with a young blonde in a live setting as opposed to me using online game on dating websites.
That part of the evening was fun for me.
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THREE TIMES I attempted to touch her hand and three times she coldly moves away, the final time where she angrily states that “we’re only supposed to be friends!”
“My friendships with girls only come with benefits.”
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I absolutely sincerely hope this makes comment of the week. I am currently conducting a corporate/international tax fraud investigation on the Island of Tonga. Its hot and it looks like this:
http://blog.studenti.it/annakaliva/a-warm-welcome-to-tonga/
Once the boys turn 11 years old they are required to swim fully clothed at all times. Anything else is considered disrespectful towards the old women on the Island. So most kids simply stay out of the water
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Heads up CH: Ivy League school fails at attempt to thin-shame co-ed into more acceptable liberal fatness.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599138/Naturally-Yale-student-forced-stuff-face-Cheetos-ice-cream-school-officials-thought-eating-disorder-threatened-expel-90lbs-frame.html
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Tonight I watched 2, at least, long term committed relationships turned into hellish ruins. All it took was for me to arrive at a gathering of old friends with a tight bodied fuckable woman-friend. Her family is wealthy… etc..
Fat women universiably and inevitably feel fierce raging hatred for any guy that would have sex with them.
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I hear ya yu the man
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If a woman ever mentions that she does Kegel exercises be sure to push her hard for an explanation. Almost anything she might say about it can be turned into high pressure, concentrated neg fuel..
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every woman should do klegals that is the law that would make the most sense
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Report from the front in the Culture Wars:
I was a the gym doing squats and I saw a guy w/ a nice HB 8. They acted platonic and you’ll see why.
The blond girl had a tattoo on her left shoulder, two female signs, the double female rainbow colored sign. She was nice and tone and I figured she was a lesbian, duh, right? but I am getting ornery in my old age so I thought why not ask?
She had headphones on as she exercised and I had to flag her down fromt he water fountain. I asked about the tattoo and she said w/out a blink of the eyes, “Yeah its a lesbian design.” I said, “Oh really? I’m kinda old so like is that a new thing or what?”
She kinda laughed and said “Yeah I guess it’s a California thing etc.”
I was hoping for a different response and I’m sorry I didn’t push the matter. If she had got defensive and asked if I had a problem w/ lesbians I was ready to say, “Yeah I do. America can’t afford to lose any good women.” too bad she didn’t bite at the bait.
Can we get a post called “Fighting the Good Fight?”
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EdwardWaverly, come on down! You’re the next contestant on Name that Rape!
Rape!
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You inspire great poetry WF!
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Field Report: Shy girl dance instruction game
So I cold approached and asked Shy Girl HB7 if she knew how do dance. She didn’t. Then I asked if she wanted dance instruction. She seemed hesitant, but eventually agreed and seemed to have a good time. I dropped her off at her seat. I taught her fat friend to dance, too. This builds comfort with Shy Girl.
I asked Shy Girl again if she wanted dance instruction. She was very reluctant and it looked like the sale wasn’t going through. So I took one of her hands and her shoulder and led her onto the dance floor, my face close to hers and smiling–I gave a strong lead, but I didn’t muscle her there. Assume the sale.
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Treat your fellow humans like shit, because you can, rather than pushing your own individual growth and leaving others in peace. Wonderful counsel.
It should be evident to all who read this site who the real tools are.
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lol
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they’re going to feel like shit anyway if they indulge in desperate and irrational behavior…it’s not like taking their girl is actually taking away anything they had to begin with…the commenter even mentions they’ll be closer to enlightenment after experiencing this rejection…seems worse to me to live in denial than to be bitch-slapped by cold hard reality
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Also if you read my followup comments I also talk about introducing those guys to other guys while taking their girl. All 7 dudes can’t fuck this one girl they’re orbiting so they actually make out better if I throw other girls at them lol
Besides I’m not saying this is how I handle it. The question was what can be done in this situation and this is an answer. I would actually just lol at the sausage-fest and go for a different girl or befriend the guys and try to encourage one of them to make a move on her and go after his crush, unless one of the guys was a dick to me.
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Hey YaReally,
Have you ever unintentionally AMOG-ed another guy who had a girl whom you didn’t really want? (She started shutting him out and chatting with you.) How did you handle that?
Have you ever been AMOG-ed when you weren’t doing pickup? How did you handle that?
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ive had it happen but generally when im out with a girl or with a couple.
i bring alot of heat and energy when i go out and especially if im drinking booze. what usually happens it the other girl gets fucking crazy jealous pissed that SHE cant have what the girl im with has, and starts beating up on everyone and everything around her. Me, the girl i’m w, her man.
had it escalate recently at my home bar and i told the bartender to 86 the beez or i was gonna break her fucking jaw. (out with my main girl, and this woman started referring to me as “bitch” and “pussy”….her fucking man literally left to smoke a cig so as not to get in it as i was clearly done)
in this case the restraint i showed turned out the girl i was with and earned me the bartenders phone number the next time i rolled in there.
remember, no mean girls really, just horny ones. sometimes they dont even know they are horny until the juices are flowin.
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“Have you ever unintentionally AMOG-ed another guy who had a girl whom you didn’t really want? (She started shutting him out and chatting with you.) How did you handle that?”
All the fucking time lol It’s really hard to avoid when you pass a certain level of skillset because you internalize a lot of shit and so many guys are SO actively fucking lame and have such anti-game that literally just by being a normal cool guy, a lot of guys’ girlfriends/crushes will get all up on me.
I have to tone things down a lot when I’m out with normal AFC type buddies and their girlfriends because their girlfriends will flirt with me and the AFC guy can’t even see it because he doesn’t know what to look for.
It happens with randoms too, and wingmen depending on our states that night…like I usually wing with solid guys, but if my buddy is having an off night and I’m having an on night, if I enter the set his girl will gravitate toward me, and vice-versa if I’m the lame one and he’s feelin good.
My calibration is super sharp so I can see this stuff coming a mile away and if it’s a situation where I don’t want to take the girl or accidentally encourage any possibility in her head of us boning, I’ll usually just try to be as boring as possible and/or completely leave the interaction and go do my own thing. Like the first sign she’s into me I’ll back off and bail. Or I’ll do something so offensive that she’s super turned off, except that half the time trying to turn her off (aka disqualifying myself) ends up making her chase harder so that’s why I tend to just leave the room entirely lol
I will never ever end up in a situation where I’m alone with a good buddy’s GF and she’s drinking, because there’s just no good that can come from that. Unless I have to take care of her (like she got wasted and he’s out of town and she needs me to help get her home because she ended up somewhere bad or whatever), and in those scenarios I just go full out business mode and take care of the situ as fast as possible with no conversation or flirting or eye-contact or anything and then GTFO as soon as possible.
“Have you ever been AMOG-ed when you weren’t doing pickup? How did you handle that?”
Again, allll the fucking time lol Hell, I have guys try to AMOG me when I’m out with girls. A couple weeks ago some guys waited till I went to the bathroom and then approached the girl I was there with lol I’ve had guys come up and hit on my girl while my arm is around her. It’s funny ballsy shit to me lol
But ya in day-to-day I get AMOG’ed depending on my mood. I stare at a cpu screen all day for work, so if I go for lunch or something I’m not really in a killer alpha badass mood, I’m more inside my head and anti-social. So it’s not real difficult for a guy who’s in a good vibe to say something wittier than me or do something that I don’t have a good response for or that tools me a bit. It’s no big deal, it’s not the end of the world lol And I mean, if you work with a bunch of people and had managers etc., you have to let them AMOG you a bit because a lot of them are insecure and need to feel like they’re badasses so you can keep your job or work your way up the ranks without them feeling threatened.
It’s no big deal though. It’s kind of like being in a fight. Sure Mike Tyson won a shitload of fights, but it’s not like he’s never taken a few punches. A lot of guys stress about AMOG stuff like “omg if I get AMOG’ed once it means I’m pathetic and I lose and it’s over!!!” but it’s like a fight, one punch probably isn’t going to take Tyson down, hell he might even get knocked dizzy a few times, but it’s no big deal, that’s just part of the fight and he’ll probably end up getting his own punches in and winning in the end.
That’s why I call them “AMOG battles”, because it’s a bunch of little exchanges that add up. And I don’t really attach my worth to that stuff…like if the guy at the lunch place tools me on a Tuesday afternoon after I’ve been staring at my computer and like, the cute chick who works with him giggles and wants to fuck him, what do I care lol If I ran into them at the bar on a Saturday night when I’m feelin good and having fun and not thinking about work I’ll probably blow the guy out of the water, it’s no big deal to take a few punches.
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‘It’s no big deal though. It’s kind of like being in a fight.’
It’s good that you posted this because it seems like a lot of commenters are afraid of getting tooled once or twice. I mean, if you’re rolling in somewhere trying to be alpha — or at least some level of high value — you’re going to be tested.
And to save you all the suspense, it’s impossible to win every single test. What differentiates the guy who will eventually win or hold his own from the paper tiger is the ability to recover and remain cool. essentially that’s the only way to actually get in to the ‘leadership of men’ part of whatever social group. Even if you don’t become Mr. numero uno alpha male, you still have a place among the elite.
And really, I have yet to find a better, faster way to raise your value in a group then to FIRST get TOOLED — and I’m talking, out of nowhere, didn’t see it coming, no amazing comeback — and then OVER TIME come back to win. I mean, it’s kind of stupid but all they’re doing is testing you to see if you’re the kind of person who’s cool enough to hang with.
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hehehe
don’t get mad cause something works sweetie! i show every beta male/woman the exact same respect he/she/it/shit shows me, and the bitches inexorably all get played because of their mercenary and narcissistic behavior. well, outplayed really.
born a god and made myself a king.
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“i show every beta male/woman the exact same respect he/she/it/shit shows me”
Really.
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absolutely. if you met me you would love me. very kind, very humble unless prodded to lead, smart as fuck and passionately sexy.
act like an entitled attention whore reboot as a girl or a blustery insecure downmarket fuckhead as a guy…….ill fucking reach into your head and heart and devour you.
raise a hand to me, and ill tie you into a chair and cut the fucking fingers off of everything you love while you watch.
and I am really good with babies too. Newborns all the way up. I’m a diaper changing son of a bitch.
and if I like how you smell i’ll tell you in front of what ever girl who’s status you are attempting to usurp.
all things to all people, crazy huh.
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I want to surround myself with lots and lots of creatures like YaReally. I want lots of YaReally’s for my friends, family, and homies. CH, please write a post about how to incorporate more YaReally’s into my life. lol
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Actually saying ‘always assume the sale’ to a girl is an interesting take – breaking-the-fourth-wall game, anyone?
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