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Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Plagiarism

April 21, 2014 by CH

CH’s power grows, but it hasn’t grown enough to prevent thieves from plagiarizing classic Chateau tomes. See for yourself.

Here’s an excerpt from a Yahoo article titled “How to Get Your Ex-Girlfriend Back” that dates to September 19, 2007.

Rule number one: Let her leave. Don’t beg and plead for her to stay or text and call her incessantly after she does. This only adds to the image of you being needy and nothing without her and as we all know, women love power. Take at least 3 days before you even consider contacting her. If she doesn’t get a hold of you in those 3 days, consider waiting longer, to each his own. When you finally do talk to her be in control of your emotions. It is vital at this point that you do not let her get under your skin. VITAL! Keep the conversation general and don’t pester her or talk too heavily about getting back together.

And here’s the related CH article titled “How to Win Back an Ex-Girlfriend” published on April 10, 2007.

The less experienced man caught offguard will need to learn the art of turning it around after her decision to leave is made but before she has reached the no-looking-back stage.  Chances of re-notch success are much lower once she has verbalized her need for space, but with proper post-relationship game you can improve your odds dramatically.  The key is in the timing.  A mathematician has shown that the dumper’s loneliness and nostalgia for the broken relationship peak at about 3 weeks after the breakup, unless she has found another man in the interim.  Therefore, your job is to let her go and not speak to her for 3 weeks.  This will amplify her feelings of loss.  Then, at her most vulnerable 3 weeks later, call to say hi.  Keep the convo short and friendly.  Chances are best right at this moment that she will offer to meet you for drinks.

Once more, from the Yahoo article,

Women want what they can’t have any while they love the chase, keep your distance and keep them wondering. If she calls, don’t immediately answer or don’t answer at all. If she leaves messages call back at your convenience. Have some back bone and discipline, don’t be a lap dog! If you try to make plans with her and she either denies or agrees and then blows you off, don’t offer again, let her make the next move.

And the (earlier) CH version,

You must be the one to leave first.  Minimize face time.  Don’t call her.  Be friendly but ambiguous.  Don’t inquire into her life.  Laugh off her crappy attitude.  Most importantly, act as if nothing is wrong.  If she senses you are acting aloof out of spite the spell will be broken.  Eventually, she will wander back to you, bewildered and intrigued, filled with doubt about her hasty judgment.  You will resume a pattern of dating and sex that eerily resembles the first few weeks together.

Even the writing style is similar.

It’s a net benefit to society that the Rude Word of CH is disseminating to the masses, but blatant plagiarism is a theft too far. Unfortunately, there’s nothing to be done about it. Libertardians bemoan a trend to excessive copyright litigation, and they perhaps have a point (if only they could see how diversity and copyright mania intersect), but on the ground, in the ascii alleys of ideas, stuff is stolen all the time and there’s little recourse to those unwilling to pay the fee in time and energy to right the wrong. If you value the freedom that anonymity gives to speak truthfully and boldly, you have to put up with a fair amount of idea pilfering.

 

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  1. on April 21, 2014 at 3:35 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 10:14 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzlzozozloz

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      some quotes dat were orginally penned by da gbfm, and then stolen by historical figuresz includesz:

      GBFM: “The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s bungholizlzzlzozo.”

      GBFM: “Give me liberty or give me butthextz!”

      GBFM: “Luvy thy neighborz bungholzizol as thy luvz thyselves zlzlzozol.”

      GBFM: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s bungzhozzlzizozo.”

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  2. on April 21, 2014 at 3:36 pm Zombie Shane

    > “Libertardians bemoan a trend to excessive copyright litigation, and they perhaps have a point (if only they could see how diversity and copyright mania intersect), but on the ground, in the ascii alleys of ideas, stuff is stolen all the time and there’s little recourse to those unwilling to pay the fee in time and energy to right the wrong.”

    With the Frankfurt School, if they want your Intellectual Property, as they did with Google Books, then they’ll just go ahead and seize it, and then force you to prove afterwards [at great expense to yourself] that they’ve done something wrong.

    Whereas woe unto you if you dare copy any of their precious movies or rock-n-roll hit songs.

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 9:25 pm THE Rookie

      Damn synag…er…Cathedral

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:19 am Zombie Shane

        The amount of I.P. which they seized with Google Books is simply staggering.

        Hundreds of thousands – MILLIONS? – of old books in university libraries which they just grabbed for themselves, without seeking permission from anybody.

        Another place where they are doing it really blatantly is with these DNA “gene banks”. Patients are PAYING THEM for the right to have the patients’ DNA loaded into these genetic databases, and then these Biological Nihilists turn right around and make immense profits off of the patients’ biological intellectual property.

        With the patients not only never seeing a dime from the use of their biological intellectual property, but, as above, having actually paid immense sums of money for the right to have the patients’ own biological intellectual property STOLEN.

        But woe unto you if they find out that you’ve tried to download a copy of “The Sound of Music” or “Jurassic Park”.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:26 am Anon

        Copyright usually is for seventy years. Older works become public domain.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:32 am Zombie Shane

        Jesus Christ, you’re naïve.

        Copyright lasts for as long as Michael Eisner can continue to purchase congressmen to keep granting him extensions on what he claims to be his I.P.

        And when all copyright is finally exhausted, then Eisner will immediately switch over to “trademark” and claim that you can’t post or download video of Mickey Mouse because Mickey Mouse’s likeness is their exclusive trademark.

        I mean, talk about naïve – these people starved to death 10,000,000 Ukrainians in the Holodomor – do you that think they give a flying fuck about playing by the Marquess of Queensberry Rules?

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:26 am Zombie Shane

        Oh, and if you are a political candidate, then do NOT try to use any of their video [Meet the Depressed, Slay the Nation, Piss Weak] of one of their marionettes making a fool of itself on national television in your campaign commercials.

        Because they’ll throw the “Fair Use” doctrine right out the window and claim that it’s their copyrighted material and any television station or radio station which airs that copyrighted material will be sued into bankruptcy.

        Whereas, on the other hand, if you make a slip up, as a candidate, and say something which can be excerpted out of context to make you look like a fool, then they’ll invoke “Fair Use” and put it on 24×7 replay loops to destroy you.

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  3. on April 21, 2014 at 3:46 pm Bozu

    I read the title as: “Immigration is the Sincerest Form of Plagiarism” and realized that, yeah, that’s kind of true.

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  4. on April 21, 2014 at 3:48 pm Anonymous

    been reading this book called might is right…think it kinda goes hand in hand with CHs writings
    some quotes and maxims are here
    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Might_is_Right

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  5. on April 21, 2014 at 3:50 pm Ronald

    Excellent article! We are linking to this particularly great article on our website.

    Keep up the good writing.

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  6. on April 21, 2014 at 3:57 pm Canadian Friend

    Related,

    I understand CH’s anger at having his stuff copied or plagiarized

    A guy I know has finally published his music, he sells a few CDs, on Amazon and other such sites but he found out that most people simply copy his music especially in far away places such as Thailand

    I know most people disagree but copying a CD is stealing

    A music composer ( or a writer) makes money trough royalty, if you copy their stuff you are doing the equivalent of stealing

    But it is so common nowadays so much part of the “culture” to simply copy what the hell we want, ( songs, movies, books ) that even I a music composer I am guilty of having copied CDs…

    I will probably burn in musician hell…

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 10:08 am The Burninator

      Is that the one where they issue everybody an accordion?

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 10:33 am thwack

        bagpipes

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 10:35 am The Burninator

        Bagpipes are awesomeness. Accordions rank right down there with listening to small children torture cats.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 4:20 pm thwack

        Bagpipes are awesome when the person knows how to play them.

        But if they don’t, you are in trouble.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 5:38 pm Canadian Friend

        The slapping sound butt cheeks make when a fat girl is twerking hard…to me that is an awful sound…

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 7:30 am thwack

        You mean this sound?

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  7. on April 21, 2014 at 4:05 pm PA

    You’re in good company: Steve Sailer has been noticing NYbT columnists crib from him without attribution.

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 4:34 pm George Burke

      Except that most of the time the “plagiarism” that Sailer notices is pretty tenuous, not to say illusory. I think Steve flatters himself too much. The Yahoo article that CH quoted is definitely plagiarized, though.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 6:48 am Dan

        Sailer is by far the greatest thinker of last 40 years- no exaggeration. It’s not close either. Works his ass off too. Embarrassing how little credit he gets.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:36 am Zombie Shane

        Whew.

        I dunno.

        Donald Rumsfeld is gonna give him a run for his money.

        We no longer deserve to live in a country with public servants who have the character and integrity and insight of a Donald Rumsfeld.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 7:44 am thwack

        Sailer = weak

        he deletes comments that expose his hypocrisy and logical contradictions; makes his readers sitting ducks in the meat world.

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  8. on April 21, 2014 at 4:22 pm cryo

    “The key is in the timing. A mathematician has shown that the dumper’s loneliness and nostalgia for the broken relationship peak at about 3 weeks after the breakup, unless she has found another man in the interim. Therefore, your job is to let her go and not speak to her for 3 weeks. This will amplify her feelings of loss. Then, at her most vulnerable 3 weeks later, call to say hi. Keep the convo short and friendly. Chances are best right at this moment that she will offer to meet you for drinks.”

    This advice is actually a little off.

    She HAS to be the one making all the contact. Calling a girl that dumped you to say hi is Betamax. Also, you can’t expect her feelings to return for you by proxy; trying to relive the first few weeks of the relationship will fail and result in typical hot and cold behavior. The only way for the relationship to ever work again is when she fears she has lost you for good and verbally begs for another chance.

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 4:45 pm thrust

      Tend to agree with this if you were beta 90% of the time. in a moment of weakness i texted my ex 2weeks after. it was a feeler. she later told me she cried over it. though, i did pull a costanza and dumped the cockpit before she did me so that may have been a factor.

      if you were a lesser alpha asshole like I was, hate fucking resumes..

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 7:35 am walawala

        @thrust great post.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:46 am BuenaVista

      Agree, if a guy is the dumpee, I don’t see the value of reaching out at the three week point.

      I have won back one woman, but it was through an elaborate “I’ll be in Colorado too then why I don’t come down to Telluride and ski with you for a day?” thing. I had utility to her because I knew she was vacationing alone, I pretended we were just mature sorts in the friendzone, so she accepted the invitation and by afternoon we were back together.

      Otherwise I wait six months or so and then ask her out — after she’s had a chance to man-surf and realize what her true options are. That works about 5/10 times.

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  9. on April 21, 2014 at 4:23 pm Rollo Tomassi

    This is old. Wait until the ‘new’ T-Max starts lifting paragraphs from you.

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  10. on April 21, 2014 at 4:33 pm Grim

    MSM liberal ridiculousness. Who is the “they”? Improper grammar. Not a he or she?

    The ridiculous “African-American” thing is just flat stupid, period. Don’t have to be “raciss” to say that. Why are libs so stupid.

    It’s a black person. The black person could be Haitian or Jamaican, for example. That is not African American!!!!

    Why are “whites” still “white” but “blacks” are “African Americans.”

    Why libs?

    “Black” is not being racist. It’s not the N word.

    It’s simply stupid to call all black people “African Americans,” especially in Miami, where they are often simply Haitians.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 6:15 am Grim

      lol this post is stupid because I forgot to link to the article that prompted the rant. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/21/4071995/mdc-professor-beaten-was-it-a.html

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:34 am Ryan Vann

      They has become the neutral gendered singular pronoun; deal with it.

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  11. on April 21, 2014 at 4:37 pm Grim

    CH you’ve been plagiarized even worse than the example you give here. By “even worse” I mean it was much closer to word for word copying. I can’t give specific links, but I swear I’ve seen other stuff on MSM “dating advice” — like on the rare occasions when they get it right, it is flat out from your rules.

    I don’t know what your finances are, but I consider it a good thing when your ideas are out in MSMland.

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  12. on April 21, 2014 at 4:44 pm anotheronetakesthepill

    Great timing. Last ex wants to meet after 1.5 years. She’s 20 now. I’m 34 … time to put into practice everything learnt here in a new situation.

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  13. on April 21, 2014 at 4:56 pm ACG1

    I’m grateful that you package game concepts in an eloquent and entertaining way, but do you honestly believe you’re the sole origin point of said concepts? There are plenty of more well-known game gurus (David D, Neil Strauss, etc) who say basically the same stuff in a less politically incorrect manner. It’s highly unlikely that the Yahoo author plagiarized this blog.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 2:46 am Glengarry

      Yeah, it’s like unthinkable that a Yahoo stringer would google around a bit and find one of the big active blogs on this our favorite topic.

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  14. on April 21, 2014 at 5:06 pm Director

    I have a 40/25 in the offing.

    Wine Wednesday night. She’s about 90 lbs and 5’8″
    Blue eyes dark brown hair.

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 5:10 pm cryo

      90 lbs and 5’8″? Is she gonna live?

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 6:31 pm driveallnight

      Take her to dinner, it’s cheap when the broad takes her meals intravenously.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:21 am sciences with lisps

      5’8″ and 90 pounds? In other words, you’re a barely-closeted pedo.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 1:37 pm Anonymous

        I am sexually attracted to many 15 year old girls. Big fucking whoop – that’s how we evolved.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:27 am walawala

      how about dinner and an i.v.?

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 8:35 am Ryan Vann

        Fantastic work.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:28 am walawala

      direct her to the kids menu and for dessert…split a grape.

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  15. on April 21, 2014 at 5:20 pm jrackl

    Time to finish the book, then. eh? and trounce the idea pilferers.

    Giacomo Casanova ran to 12 volumes, btw.

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  16. on April 21, 2014 at 6:01 pm Phero

    Chateau invented the Wheel, just after inventing Fire.
    Chateau is becoming as bad as ROK, ie written by skool kids not Menz.

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  17. on April 21, 2014 at 6:30 pm Director

    A slight joke.

    110-15

    😉

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:23 am sciences with lisps

      That’s still gross; I take back the pedo eval.

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  18. on April 21, 2014 at 6:35 pm Dr. Vandal Savage

    This is one of the most brilliantly written, witty and thought provoking sites on the net. I suppose it should be no surprise that one would plagiarize from the rich content here given the fact that the author is anonymous.

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  19. on April 21, 2014 at 6:42 pm Mistral

    The best time to call your ex-g/f is never. Once a girl shows you she’s a flake-a-zoid, she’s done you a favor. Some signals are LARGE PRINT. It’s never going to get better and it’s never going to be “like it was”. The only possible good that can come out of it is that you dump a few more loads in her–as a friend of mine calls it the ‘best part of the relationship’–before her dysfunction re-manifests itself and she flakes again.

    Three words: Done Is Done.

    À bientôt,

    Mistral

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 8:32 pm Survivorman

      EXACTLY – one chance per lifetime for each woman. Period.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 12:41 am Tilikum

        well, you never really miss your chance, only your turn eh?

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  20. on April 21, 2014 at 6:49 pm Ironthumb

    Well, anyways it is well and good for men that more men know the arts.
    Thus less and less will women’s egos be high the more they encounter gaming and less needy men. They will realize en-masse that bitchiness is not working.

    But off course that is quite a long shot but the general herd of men knowing better than to treat women like pricessess is a possitive over-all.

    But I wonder what kind of responses that article got

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  21. on April 21, 2014 at 6:58 pm Director

    She is a bit on the skinny side. So I’m definitely gonna feed her.

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  22. on April 21, 2014 at 7:30 pm Jackye

    We live in a closed system. There is no such thing as originality.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 9:26 am Smash 'em Good

      See Pythagoras, Siddhartha Gautama, Copernicus, Bach, Tesla, Fermi, Lonnie Johnson, Jimi…

      The list goes on and on.

      A truly great leap forward is coming. Use game to keep your dick wet until it arrives.

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  23. on April 21, 2014 at 7:34 pm Mike

    “It’s a net benefit to society that the Rude Word of CH is disseminating to the masses, but blatant plagiarism is a theft too far. Unfortunately, there’s nothing to be done about it. Libertardians bemoan a trend to excessive copyright litigation, and they perhaps have a point (if only they could see how diversity and copyright mania intersect), but on the ground, in the ascii alleys of ideas, stuff is stolen all the time and there’s little recourse to those unwilling to pay the fee in time and energy to right the wrong.”

    Heartiste I know of a really effective way to stop this horrific crime from being perpetrated on you any more. All you have to do is keep all your writings to yourself and not post anything on the internet any more. Then no one can plagiarize you again and you can show those stupid libertardians a thing or two.

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    • on April 21, 2014 at 8:54 pm CH

      what’s the fun in that?

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  24. on April 21, 2014 at 9:09 pm Director

    One thing is that you are marketing to men.

    Women won’t plagiarize this stuff as it makes them mad at you.

    Men will lift any good idea off another man if he’s openly talking about the idea.

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  25. on April 21, 2014 at 9:16 pm Director

    Hello Jerry Bruckheimer, Leni just called and wants her cinematography back!

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7TI6yIo-tcc

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  26. on April 21, 2014 at 9:46 pm Dragases

    Now that I’ve dated other women since I broke up with my Oneitis, I don’t really want her back anymore. I look at the emotional cost-benefit analysis of trying to game her, and it’s just not worth the effort.

    And I have an FWB in tow just in case I get severe Oneitis with one of my current girlfriends anyway. I never thought I’d see the day where I would find a female acquaintance who just likes to fuck and doesn’t mind hearing me talk of my girl troubles. And she is fun. I thought we had little conversational chemistry at first, but I think I’m starting to understand her sense of humor.

    Don’t try to win her back. It’s not worth the effort. Stay silent and forget ahout her. If she calls back on her own volition in a few months, then that’s a bonus. By then, you should have banged a bunch of hot chicks a few times.

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  27. on April 21, 2014 at 10:30 pm Anonymous

    Neither articles are unique to writings published many moons ago…

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  28. on April 21, 2014 at 10:33 pm Nicole

    My sympathy CH. It really burns to create and have it stolen. Isn’t there any recourse available?

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:16 am thwack

      Nicole

      My sympathy CH. It really burns to create and have it stolen.
      ———————————————————————————–

      *sigh*

      CH needs to learn who to manage the system. For example, if you only
      think, say and do things that work for you, you never hafta worry about people stealing and using your stuff because even when they do, it still works for you.

      The white man stole everything from the black man but you don’t see me leanin up against a fence post whining about it?

      Man up ni66a, man up; be fo real and don’t punk out like a bitch made ni66er.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 8:27 am sciences with lisps

        “The white man stole everything from the black man but you don’t see me leanin up against a fence post whining about it?”

        “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” ~ Lyndon Baines Johnson, expounding on the Great Society welfare horn-o-plenty where Uncle Samantha steals money from white folks at the point of a gun and hands it out to thwack and his dungskin brothas and sistas.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 9:55 am everybodyhatesscott

        The white man stole everything from the black man but you don’t see me leanin up against a fence post whining about it?

        Hahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaha. God you’re an idiot.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 10:34 am thwack

        Now even I hate you.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 11:21 am Director

        You dimwits couldn’t even sail a boat out to São Tomé.

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  29. on April 21, 2014 at 11:01 pm TJ

    Write the frigging books and then they will quote you. Your prose is gold. Sell your book(s) at Vox ‘ s new publishing house. Problem solved.

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  30. on April 22, 2014 at 3:36 am Promethean

    Watch this through the Heartiste lens and much can be confirmed or learnt.

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  31. on April 22, 2014 at 4:49 am The Burninator

    Libertardians bemoan a trend to excessive copyright litigation,

    Mainstream libertarianism is quite strong and consistent on intellectual property being a net good for society. A few internet cranks, usually leftists who try to assume a libertarian label so that they will not be dismissed as idiots, are the only ones against intellectual property and enforcing copyrights.

    From the LP website (http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/no-number-is-greater-than-one), this is a consistent theme I’ve heard espoused by Libertarians since I became politically active in the late 1980’s.

    “Individual rights encompass everything a person is, does, and creates. Property rights are individual rights. As James Madison put it, “… as a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.” And correctly understood, property rights embrace not just material possessions but whatever a person creates with their hands or with their minds. Just as no individual or group, not even government, has the right to use your material possessions without your permission, no individual or group, not even government, has the right to use your creative possessions, your spoken or written words or thoughts, without your OK.“

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 7:42 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      No Burninator.

      Heartiste has it right!

      Google “mises against copyright”.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 10:11 am The Burninator

        Mises does not represent the entirety of the libertarian movement, one, two he is not the titular head of the LP, three the standard libertarian you’ll find voting LP or attending an LP convention will be heavily in favor of copyright laws.

        You cannot cite one anomoly and say that it represents the whole. I have foot on the ground experience with the LP, both state and national level. Sometimes you have to do more than read books.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 10:17 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozolololzolzol fucking ididtzo

        lzozozolzolz

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 10:23 am The Burninator

        Ah, videos. How compelling.

        You’re clearly uneducated in a real life way. The LP is divided into a few major camps. Austrian economics is one camp and opinions vary in it regarding copyrights (granted), then there are Objectivists where there is no deviation on the “copyright is good” maxim. Most LP comes from the Objectivist camp (read Rand when they were young, found it cool) and the smaller segment from the Austrian economics (read Hayek when they were young, found it cool) and there’s major overlap (many Objectivists admire most Austrian economics, and many Austrian economic types find Rand fascinating). There are minor segments as well (minarchists, anarcho-capitalists, etc), but these are the two major camps you’ll find. Most all of them are pro-copyright. There are anti-copyright libertarians, but they are not the mainstream by any account.

        You’re using outliers to prove the rule, is what I’m saying.

        Also, just a clue, if you wish to converse with me further, post in a human way without your “try too hard” need to make yourself unintelligible. We’re men here, not children, act like it.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 10:17 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 10:19 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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  32. on April 22, 2014 at 5:23 am walawala

    Often when stories or articles make it to the “Mainstream” or traditional media it gives them more credibility.

    But from my own personal experience, when it comes to the game and “manosphere” it’s the exact opposite.

    I discovered the manosphere 4 years ago in a moment of despair and weakness.

    I typed: “When she disrespects you…” and found a series of blogs and as I got more into it and improved I started posting where I thought I could share some experience or insights.

    My “…” game came out of this.

    So while these guys like Tucker Max and others still see this blog and others as “research” for their own pieces…I think the internet has its own self-cleaning function and tends to flush out the stuff that clogs up discussion.

    Also, by the time a story makes it to the Mainstream like this, it’s already 7 years old…

    When I read game on mainstream media or see references to it in mainstream media…I usually see it as LESS credible–more like Cosmo stuff rather than the cutting edge stuff that comes out of this blog and a few others that I follow regularly.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:04 am The Burninator

      It takes time. The first breaks in the mainstream WILL seem like silliness. Give it some time.

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  33. on April 22, 2014 at 6:56 am Lurking Gorilla

    All this excellent writing, I wonder do you ever wish to come out and claim it as your own. Anonymous writing seems to be the only safe way to relay truths that strike at the ego, but shit, the LaidNYC guy quit partly because he didn’t like putting so much effort into something that wouldn’t redound to his status directly.

    I’ve been pondering the value of a net presence for scoring women and haven’t come up with any firm conclusions; is it better for your job/activities to be shrouded in secrecy or to be out in the open (on say linkedIn, or through blogs online)? When I won a couple of awards (nothing major, trivial shit connected to an artistic pursuit) and it was splashed over the internet, girls noticeably were more, uh, open to me.

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  34. on April 22, 2014 at 8:06 am reco

    Update on my situ. I have basically changed the way I engage my little HB9 and I am not so sure it is working. Maybe it will and maybe it wont. I have been doing a lot of reading and of course I am a noob and I have a lot to learn at 50. But i am determined to get there.

    So if I send her a text and she does not respond I do not engage I wait. The last time this happened Sunday night she did not engage with me until yesterday afternoon. Then She sent me two pics and a hello text. Very friendly and upbeat like there is nothing really going on. Then I waited a couple of hours and sent a whats up text. Then she sent me another pic about an hour later and I responded about an hour later she was at work at this time. And she responded about an hour after that. I then called her and she did not pick up. I did not do anything at that time no text or anything. Now it is Tuesday at 10 AM and she or I have not sent anything. This sure seems a bit petty and like a cat and mouse game. Is this how it is supposed to go?

    A few things. Before I started this different game last week both of us were much more responsive, of course I was more than her. Now it is very little texting or any contact. Our last meeting was really good the sex was great for both of us. It seems I am losing momentum here. Am I wrong?

    Also even though I am fully prepared to walk away if needed. And I have already kind of written her off mentally. I still have this feeling of loss in my head. Is this normal? I have been doing quite a bit of self observation and it does help. My question is how do you get past the shitty feelings? And how do you internalize more Alpha characteristics and attitudes?

    Not so easy.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 8:53 am walawala

      @reco…I’ll take this one because I’m just coming off a major Oneitis and have regained my mojo.

      It took TONS of soul-searching to understand what attracted me to someone clearly so broken. I gamed her perfectly…or so I thought. But in hindsight I overlooked a lot of crap in the naïve belief that game can overcome all obstacles. It’s a tool. But it has to align with an inner game and confidence.

      How you get past the shitty feelings? Wow…you’re digging deep. I could give you my own assessment of your situation but you would only keep asking for more ideas.

      I think…the frame has been lost…girls somehow sense this and if you’re here asking such detailed questions and we can sense your anxiety over this girl…she sure can.

      A “whatsup” text? Dude….my ex gf would ignore a text and I would disappear for a week and then pop back in or usually she would.

      Then one of us..usually her would accuse me of “disappearing”—ironic because it was more of a waiting game.

      Honestly…it got too exhausting and then she tooled me and the whole thing exploded. It’s 6 months later…I’m now getting new girls. You’re trying to put a bandaid on a sucking chest wound….let it bleed out for a bit…calm the fuck down…

      Here for your review is my own text game with a hottie in my social circle I gamed…HARD. This is LONG game…a few months. I’d tease her…disappear. Dance…pull her hair…disappear.

      Then if I got more IOI’s I might drop a compliment: “you didnt’ step on my feet…and your musicality is good”.

      I sent out a ping text ignored. Then she started asking me where I hung out on Friday’s. “Where-ever you aren’t…when I see you…I look the other way.”

      She replied to a FB text and I suggested drinks. She was all up for the flirty play. Then I suggested we meet up: check out her princess shit-testing and my re-framing and assuming the sale…remember, she dropped the IOI about the drinks and now wants to make it seem like i’m chasing her…I don’t: By the way…the credit for a lot of this structure goes to KRAUSER from his book Daygame Mastery:

      Me: if you dress nice and behave i’ll sneak you in (amused mastery and dominance)

      Her: uh…that’s a night club (picks up thread)

      Me: this is a cool club photo exhibit (building up excitement and adventure)

      Her: Just you and me? (shit-test…she wants to see how I deal with her shit)

      Me: pool table (ignore and plough on)

      Her: You go to [business trip city] this week, sounds like you retired already (she changes subject back to ME….)

      More blah blah blah… Then I switch the date from Monday to Wednesday…

      her: Mind if my friend is coming as well? (again the shit test…either she’s really testing me or really nervous…either way I have to take charge)

      Me: I was thinking you. but if you’re not up for it is ok (non-needy)

      Her: Coz she is crazy as well (trying to weasel out or wants me to chase)

      Me: i can only handle one crazy at a time see you then…ciao gotta run M is calling me (I don’t take the bait…I tease and take charge)

      Her: Evil guy, who allowed you to leave the chat without permission? (she wants more attention)

      Me: I wear the pants in this chat young lady (more male dominance-thanks Krauser)

      Her: So? Doesn’t apply to evil girl (picks up on this thread)

      Me: Naughty corner…go! (dominance)

      more blah blah blah…she tells me she’s wearing Victoria Secret underwear, I send her a photo of some hot model and tell her it’s her uniform for our next outing…she’s up for it.

      Today she pings me: “Ciaooooooooo”

      Me: “Is that Agent Provocateur?”

      Now I know some of you guys are going to say “wow, you’re spending way too much time…but the point is my texts are short, playful and I want to bang this girl and keep up attraction while still building comfort. I’ve sent her the sexy photos, she’s talked about life begin an “adventure”…the subtext here is making her not feel bad about meeting up for drinks.

      Dude…the point of this above chat is to have fun. This girl has been giving me IOI’s for weeks and in her shy way hoped I would ask her out, then wanted to shit-test me into either overtly asking her out, or caving into her frame by bringing her friend along–or perhaps verifying that this was in fact a “date”….

      This is the kind of shit you should be texting back and forth to her….be that cool older married guy she wanted to blow in the first place…not the needy older married guy who’s falling in love with her…ew!

      You’ve kind of lost frame here—-the way I totally lost frame with my crazy ex gf.

      She started to mean more to me than I did to her. I started to “value” the relationship more than she did….

      You have to start with the alpha frame and keep it…never be afraid to lose her.

      If I were you (and I was YOU) I would just disappear from that hottie for a few weeks….WEEKS…shoot her the odd text if you want “Having cocktails….chat later”

      Send her a photo of some exotic place you’re at with no explanation.

      Then go silent.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 2:10 pm reco

        Thanks brother…since I posted this today…she has texted me with “are you not allowed to come out and play” sounds like a little interest. I waited and then replied with “awww cute…I called you last night trouble”. That is where it is at right now. I have read your answer and it makes a lot of sense.

        Believe me. i am learning. This is very foreign to me. 50 years of programming. I believe I am needy. And I need to get over that. I do not believe I am in love.I am trying to get into the frame where she does not mean more to me than I do to her. I still think it is possible.

        But once again a lot of this is about my own attitude and how to change my thinking and my beliefs. Thinking can change. Beliefs are really hard to change. And that is what creates the anxiety. Working on it. And I am working on other plates also. But it takes time like you said and I am playing with much younger women and that does not make it any easier. And yes I will calm down. lol

        @dragases Thanks for the words. I guess this is a oneitis situation. Dont know how it got away from me so quick. Not being aware I guess. And yes the grief factor is high maybe too high. And I may just have to walk completely. But I do believe that I am a whole helluva lot less needy now than I was just a week ago. And getting better. And I am hiding my neediness better also.

        I am going to only contact if she does. The text above about coming out to play is a good sign. Basically she asking to get with me. And is seeing if I am going to jump. But I dont want to jump on it goo quick. I believe I have to show her that I do not need the pussy that bad. Just because she sends me a text.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 10:39 am Grim

      texting is not fucking. it’s not even cuddling. it’s not even being in the same room with her.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 11:42 am Dragases

      …This sounds almost exactly like my Oneitis situation from a few weeks ago that I posted about here. She was very sweet and romantic at the beginning and then she lost interest.

      Sounds like HB9 is causing you more grief than it’s worth–just drop her. It might be a hard thing to do and it sounds defeatist, but if a woman is really into you, she will meet you halfway and you won’t have to run a completely paranoid and tight game just to keep the embers going.

      “I still have this feeling of loss in my head. Is this normal?” — yes of course. You courted and banged a fairly hot chick and she seems irreplaceable. It does suck quite a bit that she’s not into you as much as she was at the beginning. Just take heart that she found you attractive at some point and move on.

      “My question is how do you get past the shitty feelings?” — Go find other chicks to bang, even if they don’t have that “IT” factor that your current Oneitis has. Time and getting laid will heal those wounds.

      “And how do you internalize more Alpha characteristics and attitudes?” — I am admittedly a natural romantic nice guy beta. I don’t try to overanalyze as to whether or not my actions are alpha/beta — there’s no point in beating yourself up and putting yourself down. But it’s a good thing to minimize your beta gestures and make the girl work for them. If all else fails and the girl goes completely cold: just go completely silent (kudos to Heartiste on this) if only for the fact of preserving your dignity. Follow that rule, and you’re doing a lot better than 80% of the general AFC population who keep pining for and try to win their ex-girlfriends back as their natural impulse.

      Addendum: I actually started talking to a girl from high school (from Facebook) on the telephone. She was OK looking, but her personality was not something I was looking for. And so why would I expend fake interest in a girl who is on my Facebook and knows some of my inner circle just to bring up my proverbial laycount right? She loved to talk incessantly for long periods of time, but I don’t even do that with my main current girlfriend, and I have strong feelings of infatuation for my girlfriend.

      This high school girl became more needy as I took longer to reply to her texts. She eventually went into screeching beta mode calling me a cold and aloof asshole and that I manipulated her feelings. But that is bullshit, because she is using manipulation to get me to feel sorry for her and keep talking to her. I see right through that. I never even laid a hand on her. Obviously, if I had fucked her (just to up my lay count), she could have used that incident to claim some pregnancy or STD scare.

      Anyway, while I was not romantically interested in her, but I found her increasing neediness to be quite repulsive. I would have been totally cool with talking to her for 15-20 minutes a week on the phone in a platonic way. I don’t think it’s just a female hypergamous trait to despise neediness because I’ve seen it firsthand now.

      I can see why my Oneitis pulled further and further away as my neediness became more and more apparent. But at least I wasn’t nearly as needy as the high school girl.

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm Amy

      “So if I send her a text and she does not respond I do not engage I wait. The last time this happened Sunday night she did not engage with me until yesterday afternoon. Then She sent me two pics and a hello text. Very friendly and upbeat like there is nothing really going on. Then I waited a couple of hours and sent a whats up text. ”

      You’re still giving her way too much. If she makes you wait that long for a text response then you should disappear for at LEAST two days. And no “what’s up”. You don’t care about her life. You care about arranging meetups for sex.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 2:16 pm Grim

        FR update (cont). So last night was track night. I went to the track, got a good workout, ran fast (week 4; I’m getting in better shape), saw the HB10, caught her looking at me, didn’t talk to her. I completely beta’d out and that is violation-of-three-second-rule done, right? Now she sees me as giving beta male gaze. Actually I kind of kid not look at her *at all* — not sure if that came off as aloof or like I actually didn’t even notice her. Locked eyes with her one time when we were going the opposite direction (I was walking after a sprint and she was running).

        My internals are just terrible. I don’t think she’d like me or that I can offer what she wants, so I self eliminate myself. Even though in my younger days I’ve been with more than a dozen women equally as hot. If I can’t meet women doing healthy things during the day, as I will no longer go to smoke filled bars, my situation seems quite hopeless. Even if I managed to get a few plates, like when I’m really trying and using POF, I max out at 3…so the scarcity eventually betrays itself.

        I really need the social circle through-a-friend thing, as I did in my 20s like when my met my ex-wife. Oh wait, I have no social circle. All of my guy friends are married and home with their kids.

        But back to track girl, I actually feel like I did the right thing or the result would have been the same — the girl really does NOT want my 39 year old beer belly ass hitting on her when she’s doing her track workout. That’s what I think.

        Also wrap your alpha minds around this. I may have come full circle and reached agreement with the likes of Scray, but I’m taking a different (self defeating) approach. The way things ended with my last oneitus LTR (3 years) has really really fucked me up, I now realize, even more than the standard “this sucks I don’t get to have sex with her anymore.” I am truly over the ability to have any oneitus anymore — the thinking is “if that one didn’t work out, no LTR will ever work out in the end.” As Roosh writes, all relationships are on borrowed time and all will end. The difference between my admittedly bad, self-defeating attitude and Scray’s and Roosh’s is that, well, I’m still sad about that. It’s like I have accepted the red pill but I still refuse to adopt the PUA lifestyle (or even attempt to adopt it, for you tough guys who will say I’m beta and couldn’t do it if I tried). In other other words, when I met the last LTR I still blue-pill believed in “the one,” and so did she, and there was SUCH a connection and strong love in the beginning, there really was, yet it all ended horribly and I’m really fucked up now and can’t seem to even try to start anything with a new woman.

        Yes, I know this entire mindset is beta. As someone pointed out, with each HB7 I see, I think internally “could I LTR her?” instead of “could I bang her tonight?”

        Like, it makes me sad that LTRs can’t work. And they can’t. No LTR can last longer than 5 years, max. Even the cute old couples married for 50 years are not HAPPY. They eat their breakfast each day in silence, not even looking at each other.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 5:17 pm Scray

        ‘Like, it makes me sad that LTRs can’t work. And they can’t. No LTR can last longer than 5 years, max. Even the cute old couples married for 50 years are not HAPPY.’

        I never said any of this, tho. My whole thing is just to let go. If she’s going to fuck some other guy, there’s nothing you can do about it. Let go. She is not your world. Never act with fear….basically one of those 16 poon commandments, or ‘courage’ as they say. If she fucks you over, leave.

        Women will push you and see if you actually have the balls to walk. And as long as she believes that yes, you could kick her to the curb in a second, she’ll be loyal to you.

        Become totally self-sufficient and build a tight life, then they’ll come running. That’s what it takes if you want a hot girl to be your ride or die. But I definitely think LTRs can work, provided you never stop getting tighter and you keep growing.

        LTRs MUST work….I mean, dude. After about 28-29, she’s gonna crater in SMV value. And let’s say you knock her up between 23-26….shit. She’s done. I don’t even know how guys allow their wives to boss them around after their wives have kids. Like, lol. Your body is ruined — if I walk, you will never be able to get commitment from someone as good as me. I win. The odds are in your favor as a man. Don’t listen to society and act accordingly and they’ll be yours.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 9:12 am Grim

        You are leaving out the part you have not experienced: the law of no-fault divorce. She has all the power, because what you don’t yet know is how much you will love your kids. She can take them away from you while taking half of your money so you literally become a slave or a mule. I am a mule for my ex wife. I work to pay for her life, get no sex, pay to see my kids much less than I want to, and she does things like the latest thing I just learned: she’s taking the kids for 20 days this summer to visit her sister on the other side of the country. 20 days. In the 5 years since the divorce I have never had my kids more than 4 straight nights. She doesn’t even begin to appreciate the unfairness of this. I can’t get more than a week off of work, max. She takes 20 day vacations from not working while I pay for her empty apartment while she’s gone. She’s lucky I even get out of bed in the morning and if this keeps up, I might not.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 5:44 pm Reco

        @ Amy thanks for the info. I still need to calibrate better. So when she makes me wait then I make her wait even longer. And then when I do contact her it is to say something like “lets meet tomorrow at 12pm” right? This shit is so foreign to me. I have spent my entire life perfecting my ability to communicate in my personal and professional life. And I got really good at it.

        And then I dive into this world. It’s like visiting another planet.

        @ Walawala one other thing. I hear ya on the fun and flirty texts. I was certainly getting a little too serious. Which communicates neediness. I will adjust on that too.

        I will keep moving forward. Awesome help.

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      • on April 22, 2014 at 6:26 pm walawala

        I agree with Amy on this.

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      • on April 23, 2014 at 5:10 pm Scray

        You’re right about me not having experienced the raw stupidity of marriage. And I don’t plan on it any time soon, if ever.

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  35. on April 22, 2014 at 8:37 am Simon Corso

    ” …Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief. All kill their inspiration and sing about their grief…”

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  36. on April 22, 2014 at 10:30 am Ollie

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2609624/Meet-Mr-Poo-UNICEFs-new-anti-public-defection-mascot-mission-encourage-children-use-loo.html

    Dizzavizzzertity be our strizzentgh yo!

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  37. on April 22, 2014 at 11:29 am Blessent

    OT

    “I learned a lot from each and every one of those bad boys.”

    LOL. I’ll bet you did sweetheart.

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  38. on April 22, 2014 at 11:30 am Beefy Levinson

    If you read Steve Sailer regularly, you’ll see that his ideas are, ever so timidly and heavily edited, aired in the columns of the New York Times token conservatives about a month later.

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  39. on April 22, 2014 at 11:32 am Grim

    Small victory for states’ rights and the democratic (with a small D) branch of government:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/supreme-court-upholds-michigan-affirmative-action-ban-n86626

    But lzolzozlzlz US Supreme Court precedent is so royally fucked up now. There is zero connection or pattern that can be discerned from “the law”; no predictability. Because what about all of the other statutes the VOTERS of states have passed that were struck down by the Court on BS “substantive due process” or “equal protection” grounds? This case is literally no different from, for example, oh I don’t know, individual states saying that abortion is illegal.

    So now an individual woman has a “fundamental right” to kill her unborn baby, and a state legislature can only add restrictions such as waiting period but can’t outright ban. But an individual black person does not have any right to have the unelected branch of government overrule a state’s ban on affirmative action in college admissions.

    Let’s review. A woman has a “fundamental right” to kill her baby. If the elected branch of any particular state tries to outright ban abortion, that state law will be struck down as “unconstitutional” on substantive due process grounds. Roe and Casey.

    But a woman does not have a “fundamental right” to special treatment in college admissions. Just in life or death decisions whether her baby daddy’s baby will be allowed to live.

    Also no baby has a fundamental right to be born, according to this completely fucked up leftist logic. Everything started going downhill in the 1960s with the Warren court.

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  40. on April 22, 2014 at 11:33 am AlphaBeta

    lol Jesus http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5186174

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  41. on April 22, 2014 at 11:33 am Travis Bickle

    Hey CH, the “Boondocks” writers have obviously been reading your site.

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  42. on April 22, 2014 at 12:34 pm al

    “Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Plagiarism”

    once I learned this I was never angry at seeing old portrayals of minstrel shows and whites in black face ever again………………………

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    • on April 22, 2014 at 6:17 pm Director

      Hey Al!

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3yzLA-g24

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  43. on April 22, 2014 at 1:36 pm Grim

    again i forgot link http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/archive/segment/single-over-30-and-and-feeling-the-pressure/5329d208fe344434b90005e7?cn=tbla

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  44. on April 23, 2014 at 2:12 am Imitation Is The Sincerest Form Of Plagiarism |...

    […] CH’s power grows, but it hasn’t grown enough to prevent thieves from plagiarizing classic Chateau tomes. See for yourself. Here’s an excerpt from a Yahoo article titled “How to Get Your Ex-Girlfriend Back” that dates to September 19, 2007.  […]

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