Commenter Mom’s proud provided a road map for taking the divorce industrial complex by the throat and throttling it until victory is yours.
You burn it down and start over. In all likelihood most of what you built was with her/family in mind in the first place. Not yourself and it doesn’t matter. It’s purely a materialistic mindset you are processing with. Take out all of the emotion and a divorce turns into a business transaction. As it should be.
I nuked a 25 year marriage, I filed and no it’s not easy. I consider myself the luckiest man in the world. I did what most men cannot and that is I walked away from a long term marriage without the burden of alimony and child support payments. I took on ALL debt from the marriage. I surmise it cost me around $245,000 in credit card balances, re-mortgage and division of the home equity (she got a check for $65,000 out of that, stung like a bitch) and some 401k stash plus a few silver and gold bars.
That was 5 years ago. Directly after the divorce was final, I filed for Chapter 13 bankruptcy and stopped paying the mortgage on the house and continued to live there for the next 4 years for free. I am untouchable and debt free at 51 with a stash of cash you wouldn’t believe.
It can be done and you will survive – Fuck’em all
Sever all emotional ballast. Take on all debt. File for divorce. Then file for bankruptcy. Start over a new man. That’s living the new American Dream.
The more men that do this, the closer this bernankefied debt scheme comes to total collapse. If single momhood, sluts, and gross obesity can be free from shame, then so can bankruptcy. Shamelessness is the lube that greases the asshole of a civilization about to get rammed into obliteration.
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Rule #1 – Divorce lawyers will cheat you blind during the process. Read the bills they send and find the phony phone conversations they bill you for. Most people are emotionally f–cked and they don’t think you are paying attention.
Rule #2 – Many time the opposing divorce lawyers know each other and play ping pong with each other to run up the divorce cost so they both benefit.
Rule #3 – Don’t jump into any serious relationships for at least 5 years after the divorce. You will surely make another mistake.
Rule #4 – 90% of women would nuke any “relationship” if cave man #2 has more resources than cave man #1.
Rule #5 – Have dignity if you have kids. They will love and respect you as they
come into adulthood. Don’t be a pussy.
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> “Have dignity if you have kids. They will love and respect you as they
come into adulthood. Don’t be a pussy.”
Well there’s all of Game Theory and the Manosphere and pretty much the entirety of the Dark Enlighenment in a mere three sentences.
Strong candidate for Comment of the Year.
And “Rule #1” – about the jews and the bulldykes intentionally overbilling – that’s at least Comment of the Week right there.
If you wanna prove to yourself that you’ve graduated and become true PUA sociopath alpha, then seduce your wife’s jewess bulldyke divorce-rape attorney.
Give it to her in her tight little jewish ass.
And tie up her little bulldyke “wife” with a gag in her mouth and make her watch.
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But do you employ a lawyercunt? or face the possibility of a white knight faggot who tells you to “man up”??
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You hire the Jew.
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i’ve known three people who believed ‘we can just figure this out between ourselves’ in a divorce. and their assholes were significantly embiggened afterward.
there is no reason to hold back on any front in these matters, no woman threatening divorce ever will.
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Make sure to double check:
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> “without the burden of alimony and child support payments”
Did you get full custody of the kids?
Because in the final analysis, that’s all that counts – that you be able to continue to oversee the childrens’ moral education – so that they will eventually grow up to be adults who have a very firm and strong understanding of the difference between right and wrong.
Nothing else matters.
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He was married 25 years, hopefully the kids were grown and out already?? That said…bankruptcy does not absolve you from child support…it accrues with interest….it is at this point you just leave for Thailand.
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Gonna figure for a 25 yr marriage…kids are grown.
I’m kinda heading towards the way of..if she’s gonna nuke the family, as is most likely. Fuck it….leave it all. Kids are probably gonna be ruined from growing up under mom rule…mom rule being a bar slut with new boyfriends paraded in front of the kids. Like Mother like daughter…son will be some emotionally confused panty waste constantly hearing dad referred to as “sperm donor.” If you’re lucky maybe some beta schlub will come along and make sure they’re provided for financially
Harsh but oh well
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> “I’m kinda heading towards the way of..”
WHAT?!?
Mother fucker, you get some fucking video and audio of your bar whore wife; and you get all her credit card statements, and her grocery store and package store receipts with the booze line-itemed on them; save empty bottles of liquor with her finger prints all over them; hire a private eye to follow her and take video and audio, bribe the bartenders for security camera footage, pay her BFFs to give you video and audio of her in a threesome with another man, get one of your buddies to take her home and videotape her in bestiality with a German Shepherd – you do What The Fuck Ever it takes to build a case against her.
And then you sue the filthy stinking whore for 100% FULL CUSTODY.
DO NOT SURRENDER YOUR CHILDREN.
OVERSEEING YOUR CHILDREN’S MORAL EDUCATION IS YOUR FUNDAMENTAL DUTY AS A MAN.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER DO YOU ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN TO BE RAISED BY A WHORE.
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Definitely advise the idea that if she’s gonna file, you get active and gather evidence. It’s gonna be show and tell, and if you have shit to sling at her, it’ll make it come out better for you and the kids.
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@ZombieShane… your advice to Knowbody shows your redeeming qualities
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I posted this as a response to his original post:
What Mom’s Proud said. Real men respond to an ultimatum with a straight “fuck you,” and divorce is an ultimatum. She wants a divorce? Give it to her, give her everything she wants (except alimony) and start from scratch again. I’ve done it twice (except I was the one who filed, both times), and it’s no big deal unless there are kids involved. But you deal with that pain the same way you deal with any pain: you weather it, and over time it goes away.
There’s a reason why a man should devote himself to building his career from an early age: it’s because when you’re older, you can have a “fuck you” attitude towards any ultimatum — whether it’s an ultimatum from a boss, or an ultimatum from a woman.
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Hey Kim. Do you follow CHs twitter? Read that Gawker article about bundy. Then read the other articles about Cliven Bundy. Still don’t think conservative, salt of the earth whites?
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Massachusetts is the worst, hands-down. You have to pay child support until age 23 (or the child graduates from a 4-yr college.) Alimony *used* to be totally at the discretion of the judge – it was changed a couple of years ago to actually implement guideline limits based on the length of the marriage. Still not great, but better than it used to be. Oh, and there is NOTHING to force her to spend any of the child support on the children when they are off at college 😦
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Well,now,seems you have redeemed yourself a bit,with this comment,Kim.
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True dat. Know your cards. Funny thing in my case, my ex thought she had me. Before she filed she got PO”d and threw a cookbook at me. Funny thing is neither of us were violent. Didn’t hit me but the moron did it in front of my daughter. Thank god. My attorney deposed her and she admitted it since there was a witness. Ex said I can’t believe you spent an extra 5K for that. Her attorney said, we’ll argue the truth, it only happened once. Mine said go ahead, id like to put someone on the stand who throws 500 pg books in front of a child. The blinked, 50-50 split.
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Nice move.
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Thanks for the field report.
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It is much easier, and less of a stigma, to file for personal bankruptcy in the U.S. than anywhere else in the West – and probably anywhere else in the world. It becomes more of a method than a disaster. And the U.S. has the law forcing men to hand over half their money to the ex after a divorce. Things are screwed up, forcing people to act in ways they don’t want to act. And the politicians have no interest in fixing it. This is when a political system loses its legitimacy.
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I naively assumed I would be handing over to my wife only half of the money I had earned. In addition to handing over half, I had to pay all my credit card debt plus all of hers (I hadn’t applied for her credit cards and didn’t even know she had them). I also had to pay, in addition to alimony and child support, half of her attorney fees. Guys should do everything possible to move to states that don’t rape them in divorce, such as Texas, whose law is now unfavorable to alimony.
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Hm. Has anyone made a list of the best and worst states for this? I’m assuming it tracks red-blue, but it may not.
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That is absolutely sick, Larry. That she takes your money like that is criminal. It doesn’t matter what the “law” says, it is still criminal.
Good to hear that about Texas. I only wish it was a separate country, it would be the world’s 14th largest economy. Texas has that law in its constitution that allows it to secede by a simple majority vote in the state senate – it’s not going to happen, but it’s a nice thought. Would shake things up a little. People and businesses would flock to Texas. The best defense for the common man is different nations with the same language and basically the same structure, so that people can easily move from one to the other. (Just like you easily move from one “guild” in online nation games to another. Theoretically you could be extorted and attacked by your guild leaders, who are unelected, but in practice they have to do their very best to attract members, since members can so easily move from one guild to another.)
If I would get married in the U.S., I would get one of those pre-nups you hear about in movies; they must be thoroughly worked out by now, how to write them airtight.
What the divorce law should say is, the spouses divide the assets in proportion to what they have brought to the marriage. With a basic sum going to a spouse in the case she (or he) hasn’t had any income at all. That’s a one-time thing, and then you never have to hear from each other again.
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God bless him! Smart guy. Also in a Ch 13 you can keep what you want as far as property/secured debts go and cramdown on your car. Ch 13 also lasts maximum 60 months
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Again alimony and child support are non dischargeable whereas mortgage, credit card debt is.
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Mortgage is dischargeable? CH13 is the way to keep your house free and clear?
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No, but it’ll take years to throw you out. It’s often sensible, when the mortgage is higher than what the house is worth.
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“Fuck ’em all” >>> FTW. Don’t take anything too seriously. Nobody’s getting out of here alive.
“It’s purely a materialistic mindset you are processing with.” Yes. It’s HER materialistic mindset that you let take control of your life. Nothing can fill the hole in her soul. Don’t ever start to try. Fill her three useful holes with your cock instead.
Think of all the ass you pulled in college when you lived in a shithole, sheets over the windows, furniture from the dumpster, pounding shitty beer and sleeping on a soiled mattress on the floor. She never talked about window treatments, new cars, McMansions or vacations. She just sucked your cock and spread her legs whenever you flashed that grin.
Now she wants you to trade your life energy for something she gave to a ton of other guys for NOTHING.
The minute you indulge her fiat/debt spending endless accumulation tendencies you have lost.
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> “Nothing can fill the hole in her soul.”
This is what I keep trying to warn dudes about.
Stay the hell away from the bitches with The Darkness in their hearts.
Seek out and find the nice girls from the good families who have some basic human warmth and kindness and decency in them.\
The girl whose Alpha father hung around long enough to teach his little daughter in no uncertain terms what the difference between Right and Wrong amounts to.
Marry a Blue State Blue City libtarded nutso chick, with shit-for-parents [and shit for grandparents and shit for great-grandparents], at your own risk.
And don’t come looking to me for sympathy when it all blows up in your face.
I don’t give a fuck if your excuse is “B-b-b-b-but she’s an HB10!”
No amount of physical beauty can possibly compensate for the apocalypse of evil which will be visited upon you by a cunt with The Darkness in her heart.
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And there are too many of those around these days.
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This FTW!
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But none of this works if you want children.
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define “works”. because if you’re about to say “for the children”, you’ve already lost the argument.
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Yes the degree of difficulty goes up high when there are children, you have to wear different but complementary personalities. Beta and alpha, as well as father to each child, and husband, and so on. Often under battle conditions.
So far it’s not been impossible for me. It helps that my wife comes from a line of intact families, as do I. It’s more than “be a man”, more like “follow God” because alone this is way too hard to do. You have to follow closely, I’ve tried anyway, and the kids still have 2 parents under 1 roof.
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Well, what do men want for their children? If marriage should be avoided, and single mothers are whores, and life is good living in a tiny dirty apartment, how do you envision having kids? At least some of you must want kids.
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It does if you file chapter OJ
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If marriage wasn’t simply anal rape for men and if modern people understood the commitment a lifelong marriage takes, I might desire to get married, but as things are, I will probably have children with a woman outside of marriage and deal with it like that.
Maybe I’ll marry if I will meet someone who brings enough to the table(it needs to be more than sex and cooking because I can do the latter myself and I can get the former better outside a marriage). The recipe you must have here to get married with someone that isn’t a whore anyway is marrying your high-school sweetheart. I sometimes regret not being more serious about relationships then because the couples I know that were formed in high-school and still are together seem to be doing really well.
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What men want for their children, Amy: We want better marriage conditions than the present ones.
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Amy, this might require the women asking for some of their legal advantage in family courts to be removed. Because there a lot of men who would be fine husbands and wonderful fathers, who are on strike from the current system.
You can either have men (assuming they like you, etc.) under fairer conditions, or you can proclaim victory and grow old with your cats.
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The problem is that if you’re mid to late 20s or older and you live in a hellhole, any girl worth fucking will pass. I do agree that working yourself to death is stupid, but having some sort of car+apartment combination becomes necessary.
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agree with all of it except taking the debt. fuck that. never pay a whore to be a whore. put it all in her name credit wise and show your income as secondary. it goes tits up and let her choke on it.
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Reblogged this on Mindweapons in Ragnarok and commented:
Sever all emotional ballast. Take on all debt. File for divorce. Then file for bankruptcy. Start over a new man. That’s living the new American Dream.
The more men that do this, the closer this bernankefied debt scheme comes to total collapse. If single momhood, sluts, and gross obesity can be free from shame, then so can bankruptcy. Shamelessness is the lube that greases the asshole of a civilization about to get rammed into obliteration.
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As soon as this divorce tactic pops up on the elite’s radar, bankruptcy laws will be amended to prevent it. You can take that to the bank.
In the next 5 years, taxes are going to explode like you people can’t believe. Taxes on employer-provided health insurance kick in next year, just for starters. Congress is kicking around a VAT and Obama (being goaded along by Christine Lagarde of the IMF) is pushing for the pre-Reagan 70% income tax rate to be reinstated … but this time there will be NO loopholes and multiple deductions like they had in the 1970s.
The pain. And then the economic collapse into 2020.
Hmm, what will Americunts do when they have no where else to turn? All the club skanks and party girl sluts will magically transform back into virgins pleading for a white knight to rescue them.
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See zerohedge for details on the pain and collapse.
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We know it’s coming.
And if we didn’t PREPare for what we knew was coming, then we will have only ourselves to blame.
Ammunition. Potable Water Source. Ammunition. Veterinary-Grade Antibiotics. Ammunition. Toilet Paper. Ammunition. Vitamins C & D. Ammunition. Caffeine Pills. Ammunition.
And be sure to purchase plenty of Ammunition.
And also Ammunition.
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Probably some Miralax too, and maybe a nice stockpile of Dulcolax suppositories.
Just in case the supply line of Raisin Bran gets interrupted between you and Battle Creek, Michigan, and you have to survive on a diet of reconstituted potato flakes and water for six months.
Plus, of course, Ammunition.
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@zs
gasoline propane and car parts on an obd2 non gps sat linked vehicle… tools. or emp proof vehicle
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> “non gps sat linked vehicle”
This.
Also a car with as few computer systems as possible.
Preferably zero.
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Diesel trucks and sedans from the 80s. Mercedes 300D recommended.
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“Zombie Shane
We know it’s coming.
And if we didn’t PREPare for what we knew was coming, then we will have only ourselves to blame.
Ammunition. Potable Water Source. Ammunition. Veterinary-Grade Antibiotics. Ammunition. Toilet Paper. Ammunition. Vitamins C & D. Ammunition. Caffeine Pills. Ammunition.
And be sure to purchase plenty of Ammunition.
And also Ammunition.”
You could also stack protein powder and seed/grain for sprouting greens.
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> “Diesel trucks and sedans from the 80s.”
What do you do about your exhaust inspections at the DMV?
Are they grandfathered/legacyed in with exceptions?
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Second to Matthew on avoiding the new cars with their embedded black boxes and GPS. The technology exists in many cars already to track and ticket via satellite. I’m running a diesel F250 (2000), older 911 (2003), and a 23 year-old Volvo bread box. Also a 2001 Moto Guzzi and a 1983 Honda single.
It does affect dating, sure, unless you enjoy freaking out the gold diggers. Volvo game in DC or NYC does, however, reverse select a higher class of woman. (I’m prepared for the slurs on betatude cars, don’t care.) Plus it’s fun to pull up to the Hay Adams and valet park a car with a bicycle in the back that cost more than the car.
Already insurers are ‘offering’ lower rates if you agree to use-surveillance (e.g., Progressive).
The states I live in release older vehicles from emissions testing; one doesn’t do it in any event.
I’ll put a zero-time drivetrain (perhaps a small block Ford V8) in the Volvo pretty soon for a few grand; the 911 should be good for 250K miles with only brakes and the odd suspension (bushings, bearings, etc.) replacement; the F250 is suspension only, in regard to maintenance, for maybe 500K (it is the 7.3 International diesel). Essentially, properly maintained, you’ll get sick of your vehicles before they are done.
As a pilot you learn that motor vehicles are not life-limited if they are inspected annually and maintained to preventative standards rather than ‘wait til it breaks.’ My plane is in better shape now than when it was built (1976).
I used to be *that guy* with a McMansion and an $800K mortgage, two leased cars that each depreciated $10K per year or more, a Stepford wife, and $100K a year of school tuition bills. Single, I wrote a check for a house my ex- wouldn’t have lived in and rent condos on the east coast; I haven’t had a rollover credit card balance in 10 years.
There are fashion penalties to being solvent, but on the other hand, such is merely the price of personal sovereignty. The transition from indebted provisioning provider/wage slave to free man took about five years, and then only because I still had college tuition bills to pay. If you start out in your 20’s with this outlook it’s much more straightforward; I gave my children enough dough to buy their first home, though it appears only one of them will take advantage of it (the other is a junior exec and will leverage up for a NYC condo, I suspect).
Be a sovereign man. _Your Money or Your Life_ might be a good intro to the lifestyle.
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In short, it’s about assets, not assets funded by liabilities. It has always been thus, and always will be.
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BuenaVista, I used to have a 911. The maintenance bills on that engine were pretty high. It was an old one (’72) with solid lifters to those had to be adjusted ever 10,000 or so. How are you running a 911 for 250K without major maintenance?? Bought used of course.
For that matter, if I had it to do over again, I would have gotten a 914. Cheaper car, funner car, that was a blast to drive, like a gutsy gokart. Mid engine. Now it’s hard to find one that’s not all rusted out. Too bad.
I picked up a woman (before I knew any game at all, but this was one of the learning experiences that helped me figure it out) because of my 911, but the bitch was trying to get me to spend a lot of money on her by telling me about her last boyfriend who had had a Ferrari. So I kept taking her to very cheap places to see what she’d do. She kept trying to get me to spend money. Eventually I got tired of that and went black on her.
Congrats on getting the kids thru college, we have that coming up for ours in a few years. Trying to figure out how to game the financial aid.
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Family Man, I bought the 911 new. It had issues when it was new, all under warranty. After those were sorted out it has been as reliable as a Toyota. Expenses are just expected wear and tear (some bushings, brakes, clutch, tires) and the stupid price gouging on things like a new key, new cupholder. I had to replace my starter key cylinder, but that was only $200. Current mileage is 110K. I drive it on the road, never the track.
Long ago I had a 914 and enjoyed it very much, but there’s never ending rust issues with that car if kept in the midwest.
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Zerohedge has been wrong on so many things for so long it’s almost comical.
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If they’re hot, they will have somewhere else to turn. I’ve long predicted that the American West will become a sex tourism destination for Asians.
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Come the apocalypse, shit won’t end well for chicks like you.
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I can’t wait until civilization collapses, just to see how everyone reacts when the going gets tough.
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I suppose that’s one way of doing it.
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Men aren’t the only ones that think the way this man did.
That is exactly what I did when I divorced. When I finally left my drunk abusive husband after trying way too many years to keep my family in tact, I left the house, the cars, everything.
I took almost all of the debt. I even continued helping him with his bills for the first year after I moved out just to keep things smooth and amicable for my children. I refused to take spousal support even though my ex makes a lot more than me. I spent most of my years as a stay at home mom and running a household pretty much solo (he was never around). So while I was holding down the fort for him, he was building his career…I wasn’t. I suppose I could say he owes me something for that like other women do but I don’t think he owes me at all. I made my own choices and he made his.
I had to start my life over and reinvent myself in order to survive but there is no way I could have done it any other way. My pride and sense of right and wrong wouldn’t let me.
I have 50/50 custody of the children because I think that’s what is best for them. I personally wish the man would fall into an abandoned well or a tank of piranhas but I get along with him for the sake of the children. He is even close to my family still because I also think that’s best for everyone involved…everyone but me of course 🙂
I only get the minimum amount of child support as mandated by the state and those funds go directly into separate accounts for each of my children. I honestly couldn’t handle the stress of using his money to support myself. The thought of that makes me cringe.
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> “I finally left my drunk abusive husband… I have 50/50 custody of the children because I think that’s what is best for them…”
So he gets drunk and abusive towards you, but he does NOT get drunk and abusive towards the children?
That must be one Angel of a drunk right there.
Because I never heard of a drunk who picked and chose whom he unleashed his wrath upon.
I always felt like they were equal opportunity wreckers.
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I think you’re wrong about that. I’ve seen many cases of drunks who pick and choose their victims but that actually isn’t the case here. I never said he wasn’t abusive to the children.
He wasn’t physically abusive to them but he was very verbally abusive. The physical abusive was only with me and that was in private for the most part. After he had come home late after drinking and the kids were sleeping, etc. The children saw him flip coffee tables, punch walls and all that but they only witnessed actual physical abuse once when they saw him trying to choke me very close to the end of the marriage.
The fact that he was abusive to them as well is actually one of the biggest reasons for staying as long as I did. If I had left while the children were very young, I wouldn’t have been able to prove verbal and emotional abuse so I wouldn’t have been able to intervene as much as I did. He could have berated and humiliated them without me around to say things like…honey, you know you’re not an effing idiot or a piece of *hit, that’s just how your Dad talks.
I didn’t leave until the children were old enough to voice concerns, choose if they wanted to see him, etc.
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“So he gets drunk and abusive towards you, but he does NOT get drunk and abusive towards the children?”
I get your point. You’re probably thinking…why would she let her ex have 50/50 custody if he’s abusive. Well, I wish I didn’t have to but real life is complicated.
I never actually said he wasn’t abusive towards the children. The physical abuse was only with me but he was very verbally and emotionally abusive towards all of us.
The actual physical abuse was usually after he’d been out late drinking and the children were sleeping, etc. so they weren’t directly affected by that other than probably hearing us arguing in our bedroom behind closed doors.They did see him flip coffee tables, punch holes in walls, etc.pretty frequently but they really only witnessed him being physically abusive towards me one time very close to the end of the marriage.
But they were afraid of him…still are for the most part. That is one of the main reasons I stayed as along as I did. Witnessing many divorces and child custody battles myself, I knew how difficult it would be to prove verbal and emotional abuse so it was in my children’s best interests for me to be there to intervene when I could and smooth over as much damage as possible.
If I had left when they were younger, they would have had to spend time with him alone. I couldn’t have been there to say things like…oh honey, you know you’re not an effing idiot or a piece of *hit, that’s just how your Dad talks, etc.
Now my children are old enough to choose if they want to stay with him or see him or…not. And giving him 50/50 custody keeps the hostility down. Fighting with him for anything else would have inflamed him and he would have taken that out on the children with guilt trips and threats, etc. When you’re married to a man like that, you learn pretty quickly how to diffuse a situation for the best possible outcome. I could be a hostage negotiator 🙂
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> “Now my children are old enough to choose if they want to stay with him or see him or…not.”
???
Custody lasts through age 17.
There is no-way no-how on God’s Green Earth that I would allow a 17-year-old child to spend time any time at all in the company of an abusive drunk.
Much less 50% of its life.
If your husband was a drunk, it should have been a SLAM DUNK that you got full custody and that he got only strictly supervised visitation.
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You fellas are letting her change the frame! This thread is not about drunk abusive men!
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> “You fellas are letting her change the frame! This thread is not about drunk abusive men!”
Well it’s turning into a thread about filthy little whore cunts who fail to protect their own children.
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@Zombie Shane
You’re not my ex husband are you? He gets riled up and starts calling people names when he can’t think of anything rational to say too…that’s so cute 🙂
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I want you zombie to read really really read this area of the thread
then I want you to read it again for comprehension of exactly what this bitch did
then pull your head out your fucking ass and quit telling people to have kids
thank you
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and when you figure out what she did please give synopsis and copy and paste your comments then try to explain wtf you were thinking when you wrote them
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@ gunslingergregi
So who exactly are you calling a bitch? Me or justagirl, or both?
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@ gunslingergregi
Why are you guys picking on her anyway? And picking on me too. She didn’t attack any of you and she said a bunch of times that she knows she wasn’t perfect and all I did was stick up for her. You guys are jerks.
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I guess its just lack of comprehension day give it bit then read again
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It’s for this reason that I advocate getting ones fiancée drunk — really drunk — because drunken abuse — as a trait — is largely built into the DNA.
Watch out for purist teetotalers. You may well be looking at damaged DNA. One should suspect that either their parents were raging alcoholics – or they are. A teetotaler that slides off the wagon may prove to be far more than you can handle.
Only marry someone whose personality does not flip under the influence of drink.
Also, always check into the back story of the parents. It may be very scary.
Taylor and Burton portrayed exactly how ugly a bitter, raging alcoholic can be.
“Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?”
Every guy needs to nose around to find out if his flame is using drugs or some kinky diet to suppress her weight. When the first baby comes, you’ve got a walrus, not a wife.
These days it’s a real risk.
The life you’ll save will be your own.
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I had an alcoholic father AND my mom had a drinking problem plus my grandma died of alcoholism. I drink but have never gotten abusivebir violent, also can’t drink heavily more than once a week. Jut saying
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“A teetotaler that slides off the wagon may prove to be far more than you can handle.”
I’ve experienced this. The problem is that it doesn’t always show up early in the relationship. Someone with a history of substance/alchohol abuse is always a tricky bet, even if they’ve been on the wagon a while.
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My ex is from a family that struggles with addiction. That is actually something I talk openly about with my children. I never badmouth him to them but we do speak about the fact that although they are ultimately responsible for their own behavior and family history isn’t a guarantee of future behavior, they are at risk of having addiction issues so that is something they need to be aware of.
Also, studies have shown that people who begin drinking at a very young age, tend to have more issues with alcohol as well. It actually alters the structure and development of your brain. My ex started drinking when he was probably 13 or 14.
As I said before, I was very young when I started a relationship with him and I chose badly. Hindsight is 20/20 but teenage girls have really horrible vision 🙂
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I never understood people who get belligerent when drunk. I just want to sleep and/or puke if I’m really drunk.
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> “I had an alcoholic father AND my mom had a drinking problem plus my grandma died of alcoholism. I drink but have never gotten abusivebir violent, also can’t drink heavily more than once a week. Jut saying”
If none of the addiction genes got passed on to you, then get down on your hands and knees and pray prayers of thanks to The Big Guy for the life of freedom from addiction which you are able to lead.
I have seen the carnage which the addiction genes can do to a family, and the devastation is absolute.
Personally I know of one family where the addiction in the first generation produced the town drunk, the addiction in the second generation was for prescription drugs and pill popping and doctor shopping [essentially what the jews would lampoon as a “Stepford Wife”], and the addiction in the third generation resulted in a felony conviction for cocaine distribution. [It’s so bad that the sober people in that family won’t even talk to the addicts anymore – won’t even give them the time of day.]
And remember that – just because a gene [or a cluster of genes] might lie dormant and recessive in you – it does not mean that the gene [or cluster of genes] can’t come back and reassert itself with a terrible vengeance in your children or in your grandchildren [or in your great-grand-children etc etc etc].
You have got to remain ever-vigilant about that shit.
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> “I never understood people who get belligerent when drunk. I just want to sleep and/or puke if I’m really drunk.”
Me neither.
And then normal guys like us wonder why there are HB8s/HB9s/HB10s who think a guy is a total loser if he does NOT get drunk and beat the crap out of her on a regular basis.
Just stay the fuck away from that nightmare.
Marry an HB7 with a kind warm decent heart and be a happy man for the rest of your life.
Let some other loser suffer with the HB8/HB9/HB10 who wants an alcoholic wife beater of a husband just like “Dear Old Dad”.
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There’s no “addiction gene” in the sense of a deterministic biological compulsion; there are people with a propensity, but the addiction gene is a fiction that sustains the addiction industry (“Hi, my name’s Joe, and I am not in command of my behavior.”) FMI, see Lance Dodes, _The Heart of Addiction_. Almost all “addicts” mature out of “addiction” on their own; an example is the 90% self-cure rate that is documented among returning, heroin-addicted Viet Nam vets. Meanwhile the deterministic addiction gene folks have a recidivism rate of over 90%: the inverse.
Almost all of us can choose our habits; the ones who can’t usually are self-medicating prior trauma. That makes the prior trauma more important than the self-medicating behavior, in respect of recovering one’s self-respect and self-control. Be sovereign over all things.
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“That makes the prior trauma more important than the self-medicating behavior”
Excellent point. Even if an alcoholic stops drinking, they still have to deal with the reason they began drinking in the first place.
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Kate, Dodes makes the point that it’s always an issue with powerlessness, shame, and/or fear. In this respect, he gives some small credit to the alcoholic, who in his drinking is really saying “Fuck it!” to his conscience telling him he has to deal with the dark stuff.
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@Justagirl: good for you. It’s nice to know that there’s at least ONE woman out there who’s worth the effort and who can approach the whole divorce thing like a grownup.
I hope it all works out well for you. Keep your focus on the kids, and it will.
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@Kim du Toit
Thanks.
I’m sure I’m not the only one though. You know what you guys always say about abundance mentality and oneitis. No girl is one of a kind…but I’m giving it my best shot 🙂
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Any romance updates, justagirl? 🙂
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@Kate
No romance updates at the moment but I’ll keep you posted 🙂
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“I had to start my life over and reinvent myself in order to survive but there is no way I could have done it any other way. My pride and sense of right and wrong wouldn’t let me.”
Narcissist much?? Girls that talk like this are a nightmare in a relationship…if he’s a drunk after getting married…it’s because you made him that way by constantly reminding him how you “do everything and he doesn’t appreciate it.” Had a girlfriend like this once..not very long, it’s insufferable and I don’t think females that do this have any clue how draining it is.
“When I finally left my drunk abusive husband after trying way too many years to keep my family in tact, I left the house, the cars, everything.”
A successful man who built a career and home, took care of his family financially single handedly is a worthless drunk? Not buying it.
Just about every divorcee I’ve ever met has the “abusive” ex-husband story. They’re all abusive beaters…yes, the beta herb providers are regular woman beaters. I don’t believe you lady.
“I personally wish the man would fall into an abandoned well or a tank of piranhas”
From this line….million bucks says he has a hotter younger girlfriend or wife now. Make that 2 million. Opposite of love is not hate….If a woman hates you fellas, it’s strictly to save face, she actually still tingles.
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Yeah well, I’m actually not a narcissist but thanks for the compliment 🙂
“if he’s a drunk after getting married…it’s because you made him that way by constantly reminding him how you “do everything and he doesn’t appreciate it.”
He was a drunk before I met him. He came from a family that struggles with addiction. As I said before, I was way too young and chose badly.
And I am NOT an angry feminist like my mother. I didn’t remind and nag and badger him about what he did or didn’t do…ever. I just accepted that I had chosen my lot in life and had to accept the reality of that.
“A successful man who built a career and home, took care of his family financially single handedly is a worthless drunk? Not buying it.”
1. I never said he was worthless.
2 He did not build his career and home single handedly. I stayed home full time during the day with children and often had to work nights to add to household income and pay off the enormous debt that he acquired with multiple wrecked vehicles (drunk) half-ass business ventures. etc. I am far better off financially now WITHOUT his income than I was with him.
3. Every advancement in his career was supported by me being there to maintain the home, take care of the children and household so he could do whatever the hell he wanted. And all those job applications and resumes that I filled out for him and the interviews that I scheduled for him didn’t hurt either.
4. I built as much of home as he did. I was the main caregiver for our children. I did all of the cooking and cleaning. I single-handedly refinished kitchen cabinets in both homes that we owned. I installed windows, laid tile flooring and countertops. I put in hardwood floors, light fixtures, garbage disposals, etc. I was the one mowing the lawn and maintaining the landscaping. I was the one taking care of plumbing issues, patching holes in walls and pressure washing the patio. I refinished furniture for our home, made clothing for our children, maintained a garden. I did the canning and the cooking from scratch. I am not complaining. I would love to quit my job right now and go home to make dinner and throw in a load of laundry. My point is…I did plenty to contribute to that home.
“Just about every divorcee I’ve ever met has the “abusive” ex-husband story. They’re all abusive beaters…yes, the beta herb providers are regular woman beaters. I don’t believe you lady.”
I never said he was a beta. He was an Alpha all the way. Why else would I have been doing all of that 🙂 Unfortunately, he wasn’t an Alpha of the sexy appealing kind. More the scary drunk psychopath kind 🙂
“I personally wish the man would fall into an abandoned well or a tank of piranhas”
From this line….million bucks says he has a hotter younger girlfriend or wife now. Make that 2 million. Opposite of love is not hate….If a woman hates you fellas, it’s strictly to save face, she actually still tingles.”
Okay so maybe the piranha thing sounded a little aggressive. I didn’t intend it that way. I honestly have no hate for that man. I feel nothing for him at all…absolutely nothing. I don’t hate anyone. I honestly just wish he wasn’t around. Life would just be easier that’s all 🙂
And as far as girlfriends. He does have one…finally. I actually encouraged him to date her. I want him to be settled and happy and NOT texting me anymore to say hi or that I looked pretty when I dropped the kids off. I also didn’t want him using the kids as his support group because he was lonely and needy. That just stresses me out and like I said, I don’t hate the man at all.
And as far as whether or not she is hotter and younger…she may be younger but I am WAY hotter. He wouldn’t be texting me saying he misses me right after his dates with her, if I wasn’t 🙂
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Pass the tissues!
The emotion, the nobility, the long-suffering – Her story smacks of overwrought reverse rationalization. Complete bullshit – but, in her mind, every word is true.
The woman reinvented herself … Riiiight!
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I wrote a very lengthy response but it is still pending. stay tuned 🙂
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I feel like her story stinks to high heaven, but [in comments above here] I’m coming at it from a different angle – that there is no-way no-how an underage child should be allowed to spend 50% of its life in the company of an abusive drunk.
The fact that he has 50% custody undermines every point which she has tried to make so far.
If he’s really that evil, then he should have 0% custody.
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She has to placate him in order to keep them safer.
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> “She has to placate him in order to keep them safer.”
PLEASE tell me that you are being sarcastic.
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Sarcasm is an inferior form of humor. When she says she could be a hostage negotiator, she’s absolutely correct. There is nothing that trains you to deal with people like living with an alcoholic. But, its a sick way to live. She’s done her best with the situation and that’s all anyone can do.
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@Knowbody — Well, every picture tells a story.. donit?
..and there’s MUCH more to justagirl’s story than her rationalization hamster is letting on..
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thanks a lot bro for clarifying some I just couldn’t write it out wanted people to actually use there brains a bit but apparently too much to ask on a Friday
;;;;;;;;;;;;Just about every divorcee I’ve ever met has the “abusive” ex-husband story. They’re all abusive beaters…yes, the beta herb providers are regular woman beaters. I don’t believe you lady.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
exfuckingactly
and yet you have peple who think they some kind of red pill not even reading that shit and listening just automatic that dude is bad what the fucking hell
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The fact that he has 50% custody undermines every point which she has tried to make so far.
If he’s really that evil, then he should have 0% custody.
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jesus Christ zombie get ahold of yourself
this is why the system is fucked up
bitches lit about everything but she is actually telling some of the truth and yet you act like your fucking blind
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“When I finally left my drunk abusive husband…”
WHO chose to marry a “drunk, abusive” man? That’s right – YOU did.
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“WHO chose to marry a “drunk, abusive” man? That’s right – YOU did.”
Yep, I did. As I said before, I was way too young and I chose badly.
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@ZombieShane
I agree with you completely and believe me, I wish things were different but as I said before, real life is complicated and I just had to do what I thought was right.
He is an abusive drunk but not every day, in every situation. He has wrecked multiple vehicles, had accidents at work, etc. but hasn’t had a single DUII or a documented violation. He was violent and cruel in the privacy of our own home, never in view of anyone. There is no proof of anything.
I would have had to drag my kids through court hearings to get full custody. Probably for years. He would have fought me because although he is volatile and sometimes very cruel in private and doesn’t particularly enjoy spending time with his children, he cares a lot about his public image.
I know this man very well. He has as much pride as I do 🙂 If I had attempted to gain full custody, he would have been furious and publicly humiliated. He would have lashed out and would have been totally unwilling to cooperate. Leaving his pride in tact was the best option.
As it stands now, he is more than cooperative. He is trying to prove that he is Super Dad and has the best interests of the kids in mind. He has found religion 🙂 and he spoils the kids with outings and lets them stay with me the majority of the time anyway because he’s back to his old routine of NEVER being home 🙂 And you know what, I can honestly say, no matter what his motivations are, he has actually become a much better father and I am really happy about that.
He also doesn’t drink around the kids at all anymore. For a couple of reasons I think. Like I said, he cares a lot about what people think of him. He wants to look like the good guy. The good guy that his nasty selfish ex wife left for no good reason 🙂
He also knows if he drinks around the kids it will get back to me. When we were married, there was no incentive for him to stay sober around any of us. I had stayed for years. He knew I wasn’t going anyway so why stop? That is all different now. He knows he has to stay sober around them or he could lose them if I hear about it. Or they won’t want to stay with him. He is also still trying to impress me and show me that he has changed. The important thing is, he doesn’t feel threatened by me or hostile because I’ve forced some court order on him. He feels like everything is his choice.
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Skunk is right.
This wasn’t supposed to be a discussion about drunk ex husbands. I’d much rather talk about something else myself and apparently our moderator would like that as well. My comments to Zombie Shane, Knowbody and Morpho still haven’t made it through moderation 🙂
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Yeah, let’s keep this comment string on topic. No discussion of disaster prep, racism or bullshit comments with embedded YouTube videos…
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“No discussion of disaster prep, racism or bullshit comments with embedded YouTube videos…”
These comments are exactly why I visit CH.
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du toit’s a Boomer, right?
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> “Yeah, let’s keep this comment string on topic. No discussion of disaster prep, racism or bullshit comments with embedded YouTube videos…”
Meir Henoch Mojszewicz Wallach-Finkelstein:
“WELL, THERE IS NO FAMINE.”
http://www.garethjones.org/published_articles/st_patricks/litvinov_famine_denia_oldl.htm
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@Charlie Don’t Surf
I was not telling my story to gain anyone’s sympathy so please save your tissues. I never claimed to be blameless. All I did was explain how I decided to go about divorcing my husband and people decided to go off topic and get into the details of my marriage. I shouldn’t have let them engage me in such an unproductive and off topic discussion. My apologies.
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He’s an alpha but he texts you telling you he misses you…and you have zero feelings for him. OK
Lady, he ain’t an alpha male. The only reason you said he is, is because no girl can ever admit openly that the father of her children and the man she spent her best years with is a loser beta herb.
Texting his ex wife he misses her and telling her she’s beautiful during the kid exchange LOLLL. This guy has oneitis for woman who nuked their family? Yea, totally ALPHA MALE BEHAVIOR.
GTFO
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@Knowbody
Obviously you’re right.
He did have a lot of Alpha traits. Dominant personality, commanding presence, etc. That’s why I was attracted to him in the beginning and it was a big factor in why I stayed for so long. But you are exactly right about Beta behaviors. He definitely had Beta traits… lack of control over himself and his behavior, irrational jealousy and possessiveness, ie: neediness, weakness of character, etc…that’s why I left ultimately.
He definitely didn’t have the right balance of Alpha and Beta traits and that fact became more and more apparent as time went on.
And although I am not innocent and I certainly played a part in the downfall of our marriage, I can honestly say that the imbalance in his behaviors was a major factor.
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exactly like every other bitch you planned it to have the power over the kids and power over him through the kids when he was gone out the picture
it was evil intent all the way gj your a normal chick
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@Zombie Shane
And it sounds like every decision she made was to protect her children. You would probably understand that if you weren’t so focused on hating women and you actually understood how complicated and hard it is to be a parent.
You didn’t criticize any of the men on here for divorcing their wives or for making tough choices. If she had come on here and said she was a man, told the exact same story but with a drunk abusive wife instead of a husband, you would have cheered him on.
Pull your head out of your ass, man and try putting together a coherent thought once in awhile.
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zombie told her she a good girl though lol all against the dude instantly because it is supposedly a chick telling the story of hw she manipulated her husband into having to have mediated visits with kids
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What color is he? (Sorry thwack,just kiddin’!)
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So do you want a medal now or something? The first time he’s being physically abusive you call the police, take the kids and leave. For how long have you kept enabling him?
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@Hugh G. Rection
No, I’m not asking for a medal. That wasn’t the point of my initial comment at all or the point of any of my responses since. As I said before, all I did was make a comment about how I chose to handle my divorce. Any explanation I’ve given about the details of my marriage has been in response to inquiries and accusations by the people on here. I’m not fabricating stories to generate sympathy or as a plea for approval or admiration. I’m just here because I like a lot of what I see on here and I wanted to learn more. I just decided to share my story…from my perspective. I won’t repeat that mistake again. Lesson learned.
So in response to your comment:
Believe me, I question my judgment and my choices every day and I haven’t taken any of my decisions lightly.
I know I’ve made bad choices but I also know that my children are happier and healthier than they have ever been. Good students, hard workers, moral, kind and thoughtful. Not a single issue with drug or alcohol. I think I might have done something right. And so did their father. As I said before, I didn’t say he was worthless or that I was blameless. There were good things about him. I never implied otherwise. I was just giving the reasons for leaving…that’s not usually the good stuff, is it? 🙂
You are right, I probably did enable him. I’m an old fashioned girl that grew up with parents that stayed together even though they probably shouldn’t have. I always thought that was just what people did. You stay even if it’s bad. I made a commitment. Maybe I was foolish to make a commitment to that man but it was a commitment nonetheless and I take my commitments very seriously. I also know that life isn’t easy or simple and sometimes we have to live with the choices we make to the best of our ability. Sometimes we get it right and sometimes we get it wrong.
And like Survivorman said, there is obviously more to the story and there is certainly some rationalization going on. I won’t deny that. Sometimes a little rationalization is the only thing that keeps you in the game. I would tell myself that it could be worse. That other people have it far worse than I do…than my children do. I would tell myself…we aren’t homeless, we have food on the table and a roof over our heads. A lot of people in this world have far less than that. My children aren’t troublemakers, they are well liked in school, they get good grades, do sports, they aren’t getting girls knocked up or drinking or doing drugs. They are the coolest, funniest sweetest kids you’ll ever know.
And as I said before, he wasn’t worthless. He did have some positive attributes or I would done what you suggested and walked out the very first time he hit me. I know I’ve said this before too and you’ll probably see this as more rationalization but his behaviors weren’t constant. He’s probably bi-polar for all I know 🙂 There were periods when things seemed to be getting better sometimes or at least tolerable. Over a long marriage, there are always periods of good and bad. I finally left when the periods of better and tolerable became much too infrequent and I knew the timing was right for my children. There are also a few specific events that escalated my eventual departure but we can probably go into the details of all that another time. I’m sure everyone is tiring of the subject 🙂
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“Shamelessness is the lube that greases the asshole of a civilization about to get rammed into obliteration.”
This type of language is what keeps me coming back to this site.
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Brilliant, just brilliant.
Well done
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“Shamelessness is the lube that greases the asshole of a civilization about to get rammed into obliteration.
How succinct. Damn. Well done.
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I did a variation on this back in the 90’s. The Court F’d me to the max, as expected, and she thought that she’d hit the lottery. “Due to the substantial financial burdens placed on the former Husband…” the man-hating Judge made a concession to the obvious (that I was broke, with no incentive to even work…) and set the admitted town whore’s alimony to two years. Meanwhile I quietly filed bankruptcy, and as soon as the two years ended I flushed her inequitable distribution, attorney fees, …, and. in accordance with Federal Bankruptcy Law, asked for what she had collected in the interim back. Her final return was a $100K swing to the negative and I was again a free man. It was so awesome that “she got it all…” I counted on her greed and used it against her.
A friend of mine faced loss of his electronics business, one that he’d built from nothing. The wife, with the usual hired CPA sluts, valued it at N-times its actual value. He threw the keys on the table, and said “you can have it, I quit, and BTW, payroll’s due Monday.” Without him, of course, the business was worthless, and in a momentary flash of lucidity, she knew it too. BTW, she still walked away with an incredible sum and her new boytoy. She’s alone now, the wall is a distant memory, and the money’s long gone.
Another friend was in a partnership. The cheating slut wanted half according to her inflated valuation. He said, “you realize that if I quit, my share is worth nothing.” He had no intention of making his evil ex-wife a new business partner. She wisely relented, still collected big money, but not long after she and her new husband, lost everything in the housing crash.
Moral of the story… at least once in a while, karma’s a bitch. And as the article suggests, be ready and committed to burn it allllll down.
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Jesus Christ these women are evil.
Learn to recognize The Darkness in their hearts before you even think to possibly marry them.
Learn to recognize It.
Or else be prepared to suffer the consequences of your ignorance and naivete and foolishness.
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“recognize the darkness in their hearts”. NAWALT?
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MGTOW is becoming more and more comment, and women have pushed and pushed and pushed and asked for it! As you all know, I love my kids to the extreme, but my ex takes and takes and I’m “this close” to saying fuck it all.
At least I have discovered this blog before getting remarried. Women cannot stay happy (or thin), even if they love you (and are beautiful) the first three years. Despite all my whining about my ex GF (the 3-year LTR that followed the divorce), I should be celebrating the fact I didn’t marry her.
I’m sad about this world and all of the time I have lost and will lose with my kids, and I’m worried about them being in this world, but I’m going to start thinking more along the lines of “none of us gets out of here alive” in the end.
I also got a huge tax return this year. Should I put that money into ammunition, because 0.40 and 9mm rounds will be the new currency?
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To buy ammunition you have to find it first.
Last I heard, it’s so scarce there’s a buying panic.
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This is no secret. To find out which calibers will be most in demand, just look at the most popular guns extant. So, in an End Times scenario, the “currency” ammo will be .22 LR (by a country mile). For the rest, take your pick.
For handguns, currency calibers are: .38 Spec, .45 ACP and 9mm. Handgum ammo is in short supply. I haven’t been able to find my favorite .357 Mag ammo for nearly two years. (Good thing I had a thousand-odd rounds squirreled away.)
For long guns, currency calibers are: 12ga (by a country mile), .223/5.56mm (AR-15),, 7.62x39mm (AK-47), .30-30 and .308 Win/7.62x51mm NATO.
Right now, 7.62×39 is freely available, as is 5.56/.223. You can get 1,000-round cases of both at cheaperthandirt.com.
Forget .40 S&W; other than the Feds (who, sadly, have more than they need), it’s not that popular — certainly not enough to be a “currency” cartridge.
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[sigh] My comment on ammo is “awaiting moderation” (i.e. flushed). Too bad.
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“Women cannot stay happy (or thin), even if they love you (and are beautiful) ”
This is not entirely true. I was drawn to this blog because I have a good marriage and family and I want it to stay that way. Using even a little bit of game, artfully applied throughout the marriage, helps me achieve that goal.
A good woman will stay happy if she feels she is married to a Man.
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This ‘none of us gets out of here alive’ meme is too fatalistic.
There are places in the world where the weather – and the women – are warm, and the living is easy. Where even less-than-half of the money you have now could have you living like a king for the rest of your days.
Get out while you’re still young – stuff a suitcase with every spare cent – and when it’s full – head somewhere else.
Emigrate.
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My comment to this thread was intercepted as well and it didn’t seem there was anything controversial about it. Certainly no bad language.
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Do you guys live on the east coast or California/Illinois? Because there’s no ammo shortage here in central Ohio. I can find anything I want and need, and the prices have plummeted over the last year or so. .223 is going for $5.99 a box (20 rounds) and .308 can be had on sale at around $7.99 a box (20 rounds). Handgun ammo is cheap too, and plentiful, as are reloading supplies. They stopped putting a limit on primer buying around last Christmas or so (used to be 1,000 primers per visit, max in most places).
We have fuggin’ huge gun culture here, maybe they’re just feeding the demand where it’s highest first, dunno. I keep hearing about “ammo shortage” and there was one no doubt, but it doesn’t seem to exist any longer, at least not around these parts.
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I’ve standardized on 12 ga, 22LR, 9mm, 308Win, and .556/.223.
No problems — at this juncture — buying ammo. Sure, there are runs when the Feds appear to be gearing up for “gun control”, but just keep buying when buying is possible. Like right now.
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The bankruptcy angle is interesting in OP and you provide clues of tantalizing extra ideas here. How do you structure it? What does it mean to “flush” her inequitable distribution? Was it a clawback for creditors?
It is surely optimal for the party who expects to file bankruptcy to take on all debt and some other material stuff that can be stashed somewhere, I guess that’s the idea of the gold bars in OP.
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Reblogged this on ElderofZyklon's Blog!.
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Alimony/child support and govt benefits for divorced women are simply a state sponsored bounty placed on married men to encourage divorce and fatherless children. Even the most alpha male will struggle with a seven fig bounty on his head. The power disruption in a marriage cannot be sustained. Try using Dread game when she could run off with ur kids and all your money. LOL!
The system encourages hilariously ill-tempered and lazy wives running a shakedown racket. The only solution is prenup/post nup or have no positive net worth/assets. Lease/rent/borrow so that you are judgment proof.
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Case law in California has rendered most pre-nups sterile.
The judges are, of course, man-hating women.
That’s why they entered the arena in the first place.
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Dread game works beautifully when you’re willing to risk that bounty, and don’t care. A year ago I had a fat wife who wore the same ratty pink sweater, never showered, had total control of the finances, and screamed at me if she suspected I had glanced at another girl. Now I have a fat wife who tries to look her best, total control of the finances, and my half of the marriage is open.
I’m not where I want to be, no, but I’m better off than I was, and it’s all thanks to dread game 100%.
The reply to my message that ballooned into this whole post is inspirational, and yet not inspirational. My father essentially burned it all down in just the way that poster described. Mom died in the middle of the divorce (accident? many in my family think not) so that helped him some, but he still had all the debt to deal with from her rampant spending, and his own financial stupidity. He lived in his house for free for 3-4 years, but ultimately lost everything but his last name. He lives in a trailer park, drives some old used Japanese econo box, and he’s busy drinking himself to death, which he may as well do, since he has no retirement left after that gigantic financial cluster fuck.
Is it worth it? I live in a nice house with a new truck, and I like working on houses. If I had enough money to start up, I’d do well for myself getting into the business of flipping houses. Buy one, fix it up, profit, reinvest. Now that I’ve figured that out, I know what business I should have started the first time.
There really isn’t any stigma attached to bankruptcy anymore. I know people who have filed two and three times. Everybody files for bankruptcy in this country.
I know the worthless deadbeat college kid with a coffee table made of cinderblocks gets more and better ass than I do, but I can’t lay materialism and nesting instinct entirely at my wife’s feet. I didn’t build this for her, I built it for me. My parents were cheap, and I grew up with jack shit. When they finally foreclosed on Dad’s house, the guy who bought it invested $40,000 and it was the first time in 30 years that place had ever had a scrap of work done on it. Dad would never spend a penny replacing threadbare carpet, for example. Or buying a toy for his son. I made my own toys out of cardboard boxes and duct tape, even though my parents made the equivalent of $150,000 a year back in the day.
So I’m pretty broke, but I have a NICE house, and it has my fingerprints all over it, not hers. I went and bought new furniture for the living room recently, and didn’t even get her opinion. The guy at the store was like “Don’t you need your wife to approve first?” Fuck no. I don’t give a fuck what she thinks. I bought it for myself. With her bonus check. Ha!
Nah, fuck divorce. I just need a concubine or three, and I’ll be fine. The only reason I remotely care about divorce is because of the number of chicks who won’t talk to a married guy around here, which may just be a convenient excuse for dealing with my weak seminal game, and not even a real phenomenon at all. My game sucks, my being married gives the girl a convenient way of being rid of my unwanted attention…
Who knows. The main thing is to not be miserable, wherever you are, and whatever you decide. I’m feeling pretty good here lately. I’m not out there building a shed because my wife is harping on me to build a shed, I’m doing it because I want a shed for my mower, and I want to build it myself.
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In the words of the late Lawrence Auster, “It’s their country now.”
Let it burn to the ground. The sooner, the better.
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I was too proud to declare bankruptcy and didn’t. We split a quarter-million-dollar estate down the middle; she kept the house (an overpriced mini-mansion we’d just bought) and I kept our ten unimproved acres out in the sticks. She lost that house when the market bottomed out and has pretty much nothing today. I still have that land, my assets are now greater than our joint net worth was before the divorce, and all three kids now blame her for the mess she made of our lives. Win, win, and win. But the real way to win at divorce is to not marry at all.
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Bingo, just the only easy way to quit smoking…
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If you can still feel happiness, you’ve won.
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I got an even better idea: do not get married.
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^ Practical advice.
If 75% of these broads admit not marrying their first choice (real percentage probably higher), modern marriage is a losing proposition.
But for the 1% of couples where the woman gives her man everything, takes nothing and stands by him no matter what…
That bond is hard to beat.
I can think of far worse odds than 1/100.
Question is, are you a gambling man?
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Mine is a somewhat related convoluted parallel to the post cited. Young unmarried men read this for your own good.
Morals learned. Cash is King.
I tried to maintain the family home so the kids could keep their schools. I tried to maintain the usual routines, to minimize the shock of divorce to the kids. In the end the Great Recession/Real Estate Crash in Calif wiped out most of what I had created and still had after the divorce.
If I had concentrated on liquidity and then let the ex-wife take the kids to a new school and neighborhood w/ me living in a small apt nearby, I would be in a much better place today.
I’m sure there is a military proverb, something like, “Don’t fire all your bullets now; you will need them later” or “You can’t help anyone if you die first”,
but that applies.
If a man sees divorce coming he should get liquid, hide his assets, burn the shared credit bridges and maintain his own credit history.
Idea: Married men out there, try to convince your wife to open credit and bank accounts in her name only. Tell her you’re doing this for her protection i.e. in case you die first etc.
That will provide a little insulation for you if, I mean when the divorce comes, And young men, listen to an old man. The divorce will come….
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I never understood why you’d have joint accounts. My parents have separate bank accounts and they’ve been married for 30 years. What I find funny is that all my male friends are getting their shit together before marrying as in they’re putting the right kinds of property on their names before marrying in order to be in control about the sale of those assets in the case of divorce.
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Calling CH and GBFM: lzozlozlzozlozlzozo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feminist YKW theory has gone so far that a female slut has “conquests” when she has sex, as if she’s a man.
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/18/lindsay-lohan-owns-up-to-lovers-list/?obWgt=articlefooter&iref=obnetwork
The feminist stupidity just won’t stop, CH. MSM actively and aggressively encourages women to be sluts!!!
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This is some BS
IF TRUE, this dude had to change his name, has not filed taxes, will never see his kids, and has that money offshore or in the backyard and lives in fear 24/7.
You cant hide a “stash of cash” prior to a Ch. 13 or make one quickly after as no employer, lender, landlord or business partner will touch you.
Real story is he went bankrupt and lives in a 1 room walk up, talking a big game.
Bankruptcy Fraud is a major crime and you will be found out.
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Not necessarily. Stash of cash to which he refers is savings from 4 years of not paying mortgage. One could get away with that. Also the overworked state family court would have no follow-up powers and do nothing and care nothing about what went on in the federal bankruptcy court unless the former wife affirmatively got off her ass and did something. And file what? Some kind of motion in the family court whining that he’s not paying the mortgage? She would not know how to file anything in the federal BR court and would have trouble getting a lawyer to do anything for her.
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Find an.SOB a lawyer that does both, they exist and can run rings around family lawyers who don’t, particularly females since the bankruptcy code is so haaaaaard and unsexy.
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I am not following now, how would she have standing to file a motion about the mortgage that he pays (or doesn’t pay) for the house he lives in? I don’t see how she is impacted by it.
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Everything I’ve read says that bankruptcy doesn’t discharge child support. Maybe he didn’t have any children, or they were over eighteen?
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Or taxpayers are picking up the bill.
Not admirable, but definitely a way to live up to the grease on the asshole of the civilization metaphor.
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Maybe he offered assets in exchange for her to drop child support claims.
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Yes, it could have been a lump sum payment. Then when its all spent, the story becomes: “he never paid child support!”
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lol.
losers, most boomers, and tradcons cant even fathom a world without rules while nimble and adaptable winners exist outside of them.
everyone learns eventually!
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Yeah dude! Everyone knows the best places on earth, with the most “winners” have the fewest rulz!
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lololol, the Somalia=libertarian supershitlib thing i assume.
try wall street…… or anywhere craft white folks congregate to hod their hats under the money faucet. steal more with a briefcase than a gun you slave.
dont hate the player, hate the game 😉
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clearly i cant speel today.
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Silver, I doubt whether what he’s told us is the full story. I wouldn’t have, not on a public forum like this.
The real takeaway from his post is that men need to know ways (legal ways, such as bankruptcy) to avoid getting raped by the divorce process.
More important, though, is NOT to let the other side dictate the terms of battle.
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Part of the value of going about this coldly is that you will smoothly say the right things about your intentions while not mentioning any clues as to your real intentions (bankruptcy, etc.) If she hates you, you don’t want her to know your plan going forward.
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I thought that, at least for lenders, you were golden for 7 years after BK, because your balance sheet is cleaned up and you cannot file again for another 7 years.
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The article said none of this. You CAN willingly take all the marital debt, and in fact, the man usually gets stuck with that whether he likes it or not. “She gets half the assets, he gets all the debt” is a typical outcome. Then, once you’re greviously F’d by the inequitable distribution, both attorney fees, her shrink, …, and generally drowning in debt, you use that fact to argue against alimony and a downward mod of child support. Federal Statutes limit garnishments to a particular percentage of income so once they hit that max number the courts realize that it is pointless to pile on more.
As the filer, he also knew this was coming and could plan accordingly. He likely started this plan years before, stashing cash in coffee cans, not paying bills, whatever, to build an off-books nestegg, AND accummulate debt. Then, when it hit the fan, he flushed it all, lived free in his foreclosure, and banked his new earnings. BTW, this is the same advice that women get when they secretly visit that attorney a couple years before they pull the trigger. This story is unusual because the man took the initiative and got the jump on her.
It is possible to do this exactly as described with good results. If you’re an honest and responsible person this is painful and difficult, contrary to every belief. But trust me, any anachronistic notions of fairness, truth, and justice will become ashes in a divorce court. Its Alice in Wonderland meets Friday the 13th, and you’re the feature sacrifice.
BTW, I had a SECRET clearance, filed bankruptcy, and life and work motored forward just fine. It wasn’t an option. I didn’t hide it, and the reasons were obvious, well understood. The principle causes of bankruptcy are medical problems and divorce. They pound their rubber stamp and… next.
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I’ll be your Huckleberry…let me help you Mr. Fox.
I did not change my name. No need.
I do file taxes as I am gainfully employed.
Cash is king, get a safety deposit box.
No fear here, only joy.
My son’s were both under the age of consent at the time of the divorce and they both made the correct decision to live with me. In Florida, children at or over the age of 14 get a say as to where they want to live. The court does stipulate a child-support agreement that will include maintenance but that can be adjusted to a consensual agreement outside of the state managed environment if both sides agree. Bottom line – I got my kids.
Cash payouts can and do eliminate alimony. It helps if she is a professional working gal as well, they too have to submit financial disclosures. Remember, you are dealing with a emotionally charged woman and if you allow or convince her to think she is getting the better of you and she sees a large chuck of change in the form of a payout it’s hard for them to resist. The desire for immediate gratification can and will be used against her.
You are correct, you cannot hide a stash of cash prior to a Ch. 13 and you would be a fool to do so. I did not state that I had. One major misconception is that a bankruptcy trustee is going to “check-up” on your finances once you are in the system. NO, they don’t. The only time this occurs is if you miss payments to the trustee or try to amend your plan. Don’t make waves, make payments. I am not required to submit income tax returns or refunds to the trustee as that was amended to the final conformation agreement as part of the negotiations. And yes there are negotiations.
You set up the mortgage so the payments are “outside of the plan” and the trustee does not give a rats ass if you pay the mortgage or not as any secured debt can and will be repo’d if you don’t pay. (Basically the trustee is not making money off of the mortgage payments so no fucks given by them). Banks move at a snails pace in foreclosure and this is amplified when a Ch. 13 is involved. Sit back and pad the bank account. When the foreclosure does come around file a response to the complaint and then on the backside offer the bank a “Deed in Lieu”. This will suspend the foreclosure in it’s tracks for some time as per law today. Pad the bank account some more because you’ve just bought more time of free living. In the end – The mortgage is discharged in the bankruptcy and you owe nothing and you have “a stash of cash”.
The real story – I’m better off than I ever was and you can smurf my balls.
No fraud, no game. Use your brain.
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Well done Moms Proud..intelligent and inspirational. As a business owner, i could see myself closing up and starting a whole new similar business again/ totally in control of it, only putting it in the name of a trusted friend or relative who would ‘pay me’ a modest salary. If she had custody, i would be the deadbeat dad who’s ‘trying’.
Then, when they get past 18 and away from her, i would make it up to them and rebuild the relationship starting with a trip to Europe. lol
SilverFox: “This is some bs.”
Yoda: “That is why you failed.”
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“Shamelessness is the lube that greases the asshole of a civilization about to get rammed into obliteration.”
Assertions like this are the reason I love CH.
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as long as we remember that shamelessness can be found on both sides of the conflict, with identical results.
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women are leading the way, but men are catching up fast.
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top quality of life countries lack diversity, but of course SWPL media won’t say the obvious:
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/19/how-u-s-is-lagging-on-quality-of-life/?hpt=wo_r1
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CH reading the twitter feed on catcafe is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (or as 100% of American women would incorrectly say, “hysterical”)
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Ya the Twitter feed is great.
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Indeed, fuck them all!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSLx4AGdaVI
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Russell Wilson, quarterback of the Super Bowl champion Seahawks is filing for divorce:
http://blogs.seattletimes.com/seahawks/2014/04/23/russell-wilson-files-for-divorce/
He was a third round pick and is still on that contract, so this is entirely to remove any chance that his soon-to-be ex-wife gets her hands on his big payday contract. Rumors abound that he has been cheating the whole time anyway but that aside if you’re going to make a move, he’s doing it right, no kids and she gets very little since he was making about as much as a rich doctor in his salary (and endorsements.)
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He plays like Joe Montana.
He must have made a phone call.
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I am thankfully ignorant here, but what’s to stop some judge in Seattle from sticking him with an escalator clause that means his alimony goes right up along with his salary?
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They’ve been married for two years. I can’t imagine such a clause lasting more than another year or two. It might be painful but again, two years, NO CHILDREN, I really don’t see her getting much except for endorsement contract money he has now. He may even care for her and provide extra but this gets the legal entitlement to that cash off the table.
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The only thing that would make this situation even more comical is if he had a career ending injury and had to work at McDonalds from now on. He will probably remember all the bitches he had sex with fondly. lol
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I thought he was dumping his black wife cuz now he is famous enuff to get the white wimmenz,but lo! his wife is a mudshark! At least theres some justice there as this skanky ho gonna miss the big negro payday!
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Who can say what happened in their marriage, although a (biased) observer would say that she got the par-for-the-course penalty for mudsharking: Desertion.
Shame, too, she was cute. Now an alpha widow with publicly besmirched committment value. At least Wilson’s a zambo and a non-thug which softens the blow a tad.
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From Twitter: “It’s more efficient to refute dumb feminists simply by posting their pics. Story: … Author: …”
Are we ever going to get a payoff/punchline to the ratings survey of the Jizzebell writers?
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[…] By CH […]
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How to win at divorce … show up at court with this:
http://www.curvyerotic.com/galleries/femjoy/josephine_heat_me_up/josephine_heat_me_up_femjoy_010.php
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the only winning move is not to play by their rules.
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http://fredoneverything.net/LaudableRacism.shtml
“Let us, improbably, glance at reality. A characteristic of human groups is that they do not like each other. The greater the difference between the groups, the greater the dislike; the closer the contact between them, the more open the friction. Note that before the advent of mass immigration, Americans of whatever politics had no dislike of Hispanics.
Thus separation increases the likelihood of amity. Is this not obvious? The instinctive rancor between disparate groups accounts for most of the world’s problems.
…
In Washington, white liberals cheerlead for diversity while spending their time exclusively with white liberals and execrating Southerners, Jesus Creepers, genocidal conservatives (understood to mean all conservatives), Catholics, racists, owners of guns, rednecks, and so on. No dissenting voices are heard because, like conservatives, liberals choose to be among their own.”
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Single mother here. Right on with the strategy. People get too emotionally tied to such things as credit scores, which certainly do not define a person.
I applied this with my home I bought in 2005 and I do not feel bad about it.
Working Whites must just walk away from all American institutions such as marriage, banks, home ownership.
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I was married 19 years, and had three kids when I filed for divorce. The ex. turned out to be an alcoholic, which got worse and worse as time went on. Maybe 6 months before I filed, she developed a fondness for cocaine. This caused some problems, as I was a cop. She then started running around, which was it for me. I hired a PI to get the documentation I needed, got a top-shelf attorney, and I listened (that’s the important part!) to what he said. He drew up the divorce papers and told me when they were ready to file. That evening before she got home, I changed the locks, threw her stuff out onto the porch, and locked the doors. She went ballistic when she got home, but I didn’t let her in. The next morning, my attorney filed the paperwork, and I had her served while she was in a meeting at work. I sued for custody of the kids, child support, and for sole possession of the house. She fought me tooth and nail and the divorce wasn’t final for almost a year.
It ended up I had to pay alimony for 2 years and had to give her a portion of my deferred comp account, but I got custody of the kids, kept the house, and kept her out of my pension. I got stuck with all her debt, but filed for bankruptcy after the divorce was final. After the bankruptcy, my only monthly bill was for the mortgage.
Bottom line, it worked out well for me. I had no contact with her after the divorce, and the alimony was only 2 years. I’ve been divorced for 15 years now and my life is pretty good. Divorce is expensive, but it’s worth it!
Guys, if you’re in a situation where you’re thinking about divorce, I guarantee you she is too. The best defense is a good offense. If you think you can just hang around and wait for her to file because she’ll be reasonable, you’re wrong, wrong, wrong. Because of my job, I saw a lot of divorce situations, not just with the general public but with other cops too. Women are NOT nice, reasonable, or anything else like that when it comes to divorce. If you let them, they will gut you like a fish and walk away smiling.
Move first! Don’t wait and then react to what she does. Document everything she’s doing. If she threatens you, tries to assault you, whatever, call the cops, have a domestic violence report filed and have her removed from the house. Go for the jugular every time you can. Especially if you have kids, the only acceptable outcome is for YOU to get custody. My attorney does a lot of divorce work and is one of the top divorce attorneys in the area. He said that if the husband files for custody and is serious about it and pursues it, he’ll get custody more that 50% of the time. BTW, this was in NY State, so if I could do it in NY, it’ll likely be even easier in other states.
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I totally agree with this, I am in the middle of it I didn’t file for bankruptcy, I have child support payments my accounts have been decimated. BUT I am fkn free and I will come back, I will retire wealthy. I am already doing it, it can be done and has been done. just plan and take the material blow for awhile its only money…Take charge …
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I fought my ex-wife for custody of our then 2 year old son. She pulled tricks like wrongly accusing me of violence, she went all out, even moving to a shelter with our son. I was picked up at work by 4 cops in front of colleagues and clients, and I work at a very high profile place. Having to walk through the building surrounded by cops could be devastating for a man’s reputation in the corporate world, if not played right. (Tough not with honeys I’d add, but I believe Le Chateau archives has posts on infamy game, so I’ll leave it at that). I’ll recommend you buddy with the cops, run your best vulnerability game, on your most likely female (or gay) human resources manager and maybe even mention suicide to your boss. 😀
Also important; question her sanity at all times. Tell the cops and everyone else she seems to be psychotic.
Another important thing is to lawyer up with a good senior female. If she can get a female judge, they will crush any activist feminist (real lawyers hate them) or white knighting male.
Be your SWPLst with the judge and your lawyer. Be a victim of a crazy woman. Be like their son, but with game lol.
I still had to pay a lot of money, but at least I was acquitted of the domestic violence and I have my son half the time, and even when I don’t always have the time, he has grand parents and manly uncles that loves to spend time with him.
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My grandfather was a lawyer and he defended this guy against what he said are fake allegations to get child support. My grandfather lost, but since child support here is capped to a percentage of your income, the man he defended proceeded to have 20 other children by a bunch of other women because the increase in child support payments he saw over it were minimal due to the cap.
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The best way to win is not to play.
Sad rape…
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Like any good,responsible Father I keep track of the goings-on of my daughter. On Facebook, of course. She is nearly always in the center of every picture she knows is being taken. Along with that she routinely sheds more cloth than the other young women and always finds a way to actually look downwards towards the camera…/.. It has worked well for her because she has been drop dead gourgeus since 10th grade.
Her live-in boyfriend is a TriAthelete Medical Doctor who pre-heats her scrubs every morning to prevent any annoyance to come to certain children of Houston as they are passing thru. (Irag) Kurdistan) Nevada(=)
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Question for the peanut gallery:
Has anyone thought about selecting companies that have annoyed feminists for *reverse* boycotts? Our numbers are too small to make a boycott effective, but selectively picking out companies to buy stuff from in a positive sense might start to make companies braver about standing up to feminists.
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Chic fil A
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Barilla for us euros.
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Yeah and Barilla like he said, which is sold everywhere in the US.
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Sorry to say Barilla’s products are shit.
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And here is that mangina Dr Phil’s advice (for women of course):
http://www.drphil.com/articles/article/619
Notice it doesn’t even pretend not to have a predatory tone – the highlight is to wait until he receives a salary bonus before filing and wait until 10 years so you can cash in more.
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Dr. Phil’s gets trolled:
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hahahahhaha…….never buy the cow!
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Someone enlighten me. What the fuck is it that goes through men’s heads when they get married? What compels them to voluntarily relinquish any measure of power or control they had in their relationshit? The oblivious blue pill chump I can understand…but I’ve seen many lesser alphas get totally rolled all in the name if that nebulous title…husband.
Just why? Do you really think you’re in love with the slut? Do you really think she can love you in the way that a successful marriage requires? Are you just afraid of being lonely?
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Some women are *excellent* at the selling of their lies, and a lower alpha can find her and simply see her for years and she remains constantly submissive, docile, highly sexual and adventurous with him, she has low mileage and he thinks “Shit, this is really working out and every other woman I’ve ever met is a flake, I should snag this one while the gettin’ is good”. That’s my guess anyway. Of course the sex vanishes nearly overnight, he starts thinking of ways to get it, then starts playing by her rules for pussy and badda bing, before you know it, you have some sad schlumpy guy wearing a pastel polo shorts and khaki shorts and loafers holding his wife’s purse while she’s off trying on new clothes at the mall.
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polo shorts = polo shirt
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Fuck’em all
That is the goal afterall… 🙂
I could myself as blessed in that I was never stupid enough to marry or get involved in anything long term. But I have to thank the older women that introduced me to sex, since I learned early on not to trust them as far as I can throw them. Although they did teach me that properly managed, they will do anything for you, including pay your living expenses and take care of you. What’s not to enjoy?
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Starbucks game.
I’ve noticed a honey pot.
Around 830-900 the coffee shop fills up with hurrying secretaries and other nubile students.
There must be sneaky ways to get a few numbers in that pile up of hard bodies.
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its my preferred place to pick up…the competition is FIERCE and the males there are….lets say hipsterfag is kind and not much competition.
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That tweet about individualism and fat chicks sounds P Man like.
I don’t exactly see how individualism has anything to do with fatties, but thats just me. I also laugh at the assertion that individualism hasn’t led to wonderful Randian titans. Yeah it has. Think Steve Jobs et al. (although the iPhone isn’t actually a positive invention when you think about it, so maybe he is right.)
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The link from individualism (at least its atomic form) to fatties is that the philosophy eschews the notion of moral communities to which the individual ought to conform his lifestyle. Movement libertarianism imagines idiotically that the antidote to the disease of statism is to exalt the atomic individual and his fantasy of unfettered liberty. The truth is that both of these ideologies are Marxist, neither one is sustainable, nor has either ever obtained successfully in any healthy society. If the good life is all about looking out for number one and feeeeeeling high self-esteem no matter what, this will entrench vice everywhere, and one of the consequences will be widespread obesity. Another will be female hypergamy, and those two factors as we all know have converged to skew the sexual market in a monstrous direction: entitled fatties.
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Eh, I’m not sure if individualists can be called Marxist in ANY way or shape.
“If the good life is all about looking out for number one and feeeeeeling high self-esteem no matter what,” I don’t know if THAT is what is meant by libertarianism or individualism.
I believe in “hard” individualism but soft “collectivism” I suppose.
I don’t think abandoning individualism is necessary to properly shame fatties. I think the main reason for fatties isn’t really individualism or collectivism but the peculiarities of the food and agricultural industry in the states.
The problem with individualism being about refusing to conform to moral communities is that it is individualist of most alternative rightwingers to not go along with the “cathedral”. (synagogue?) If you’re part of THIS part of the internet, you most likely fail to conform to the community already. Is that a bad thing? Communities can be wrong. I don’t think conforming to communities surrounding you is necessary to avoid vices like obesity. Kuwait and a bunch of other Islamist, conformist countries have sky high obesity rates. I think it is mostly unrelated.
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Nonsense. In countries were prostitution is legal and/or widespread, women are motivated to stay thin. As an example, there are more fatsoes in the Wal-Marts in my area than there are in the entire nation of Colombia.
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Yes, Libertarianism is at its core Marxist, for Libertarians agree with Marx that the means of production are the basic source of power/happiness in society. This happens to be nonsense, but that’s as may be. The fact remains that Libertarians only reject those portions of Marx which urge Statism as the solution for a happy distribution of the world’s resources. Whereas Libertarians argue that there is never any time for any central planning, with the federal State being the most odious form of planning for the Libertarian, and with even patriarchal/tribal arrangements striking the libertarian as interfering immorally with the inalienable sanctity of the Holy Individual and his free pursuit of stuff and happiness.
Meanwhile, Marx’s whole oeuvre is an attack upon a straw man. He assumed homo economicus and that Western civilization was a vast conspiracy of theft and mind control perpetrated by a cynical cabal of capitalists and priests. And what do libertarians believe? That man is basically homo economicus and that that Western civilization was a vast conspiracy of theft and mind control perpetrated by a cynical cabal of corporatists/politicians and priests. And so we see that there is very little room, if any, between the two ideologies, both of which take their cues largely from classical liberalism (Locke, Rousseau and others).
Note too: most movement libertarians, as well as the majority of their public figureheads and academic spokesmen are reliably anti-racist/anti-white; tend to range from indifferent to fascistically approving with respect to the homo-rights movement; as well as accepting at least the assumptions of the Feminine Imperative. Libertarians cherish many of the same delusions as outright Marxists and feminists: the fundamental equality of all individuals, the fundamental equality of the sexes (before the law at least); the fundamental equality of the races; blank-slate explanations of generalized genetic differences between the races.
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I don’t think that getting a divorce will collapse the obese slut industrial complex.
Instead, the satanic sadistic psychopath Cultural Marxists will do it for us.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/376532/chris-hayes-wants-kill-about-57-billion-people-tim-cavanaugh
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Little Advice on Lawyers
A friend of mine was very wealthy and he knew the divorce was coming and he also knew that there is a huge difference between good lawyers and bad lawyers. And this can mean thousands of dollars to you in a divorce negotiation.
So he found out who the top 10 best attorneys in his city. He set appointments with all of them and payed for the hour of an initial consultation. Then after he talked to all of them. He decided who best to hire. And then the other nine were now unable to be hired by his wife. SInce this would be a conflict of interest.
Things turned out for him pretty well overall.
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dam
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Side note. I believe that Tony did the same to Carmela in The Sopranos.
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Literotica
Anyone ever here about the girlfriend activation system. They claim that they have a method of picking up women that does not require approach. Now this sounds a little odd to me. Since approach seems to be the cornerstone of this whole movement. At least the part where you get women to talk to you.
They claim to use a technique that is in literotica about having the man able to overcome certain obstacles that the woman intentionally puts in their way. And this endears the woman to the man who overcomes these. And they guarantee it works or your money back.
Just wanted to get others opinion of this.
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What color are you?
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What color is your boyfriend?
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http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/white_working_class_women_should_stay_single_mothers_argue_the_authors_of.html
Naomi Cahn. Lol.
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ROTFLMAO.
Methinks plutocracy (“The Village”) is overpaying for their zhyid aggitateurs. But where would they find equally relentless asskissers? None of my worries, tho.
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How exactly does working two jobs and pawning the kid of the state or the grandparents make you a mother? These are the same people that say biology is irrelevant for paternity…
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CH Tweet: “Clive Bundy’s love for Mexicans is a symptom of white depression about black dysfunction.”
A lot of people profess what they believe is a sincere tolerance or even affection for a particular non-white race. But this is where the rubber meets the road: (1) would he be OK with his daughter marrying one? (2) would he be OK with tons of them moving in to his neighborhood?
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lol classic
http://joyreactor.com/post/572453
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Lots of anti-semitism that needs to be countered. Regarding Southern Sephardics.. yes, they got along wonderfully with Southern cavalier aristocrats (and still do). Sep Jews fought ferociously for the Confederacy.
There are three types of Jews from 1900’s onward
1) Bolshevik — Primary of Russian extraction (80% US Jews) and Jews from big Euro cities (Berlin). Highly radicalized, anti-Christian and intellectual types. The miserable lives of Russian Jews (worse than any European people) helped create this radicalism. Russia/German sadism didn’t help.
2) Zionist – Austrian/Polish/Ukranian/Lithuanian/Sephardic — right of center nationalists (they currently run Israel). Not radical and very pragmatic (Netanyahu or David Gelertner are good examples). Often stocky build, large stature and blunt spoken. They are very easy to spot if you know what to look for.
3) Ultra-Religious- South Poland origin (epic fertility rate). Brooklyn and Israel. Small stature, isolated, no political view.
These three groups don’t care for each other much. Bolsheviks particularly hate Zionists. Bolsheviks tolerate Ultra-religious because they find them easy to bribe to serve them.
Russian US Jews favor unlimited 3rd world immigration because they are Bolsheviks, but Zionist nationalist Jews (in Israel) oppose. There is no Jewish monolith because these three groups are at war with each other.
There is no default alliance between the secular Right Zionists and the Ultra-religious Right (who are often on welfare).
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What kind of Jew is the one that advocates for white women being single mom? Bolshevist?
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It doesnt matter a kike is a kike, fuck them all
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My divorce was the biggest education any man could ever have. When a woman wants out, watch your back.
After five years of marriage, she decides she’s unhappy and after a poorly-planned ambush in a couples therapy session where she tried to paint me as a lout and a monster, I decide that it’s just not worth it. What started out as an “amicable” dissolution turned quickly into a “glass parking lot.”
We hired a common attorney to handle our “no-fault” quick divorce. As I awaited papers to sign, I found out that she’d hired a second lawyer to start separate proceedings that were anything but “amicable.” I discovered this when a friend in the county registrar office received a petition to have me removed from the deed to my house, declaring me “missing.” She and her other lawyer had me “served” with notice purposefully at an old address and then used that as proof that I was “missing.” If it weren’t for my friend in the clerk’s office, I’d have lost everything I owned and been given all her debt.
It turns out that In the last two years of marriage, she’d run up $60k in credit card debt, she had also neglected to declare all her income during the time we were married (she was a “creative professional) According to her “other” lawyer, she expected me to hand over the deed to our house and take on all her debt which included a staggering $160k in back taxes.
I walked away, literally. I contacted the IRS, filed a statement that her failure to pay taxes were done outside my purview and advised them to seize the house, quickly. I cashed in every account I had, bought a plane ticket and went to Mexico for five years of surfing, running a bar and nailing girls on spring break. I stayed in touch with the IRS, stayed current on my filings and eventually the US DOJ took my ex to the woodshed. She lost everything, including three years of her freedom for the attempted fraud. Her lawyer was disbarred and I still have a civil suit pending against her.
Before this, I was a chump. I believed that women were essentially good and that when they went bad, a man was always at fault. I cared for my wife, supported her completely and that being a good man meant that she was always right. Now, more than a decade later I realize that while I lost the life I had, the one that emerged from the ashes of that conflagration is the one I really wanted.
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Damn man, you’re a fuckin’ hero! Well done, even if it was under regrettable circumstances.
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Before this, I was a chump. I believed that women were essentially good and that when they went bad, a man was always at fault. I cared for my wife, supported her completely and that being a good man meant that she was always right. Now, more than a decade later I realize that while I lost the life I had, the one that emerged from the ashes of that conflagration is the one I really wanted.””””””””””
brutal
me too got to learn that lesson through my dad though
but I stil thought woman essentially good
but no since i been back from warzone i learne they fucking the most sneaky fuckers on the face of the planet
murder, thieving, lying all in a days work
be the wrong dude you just there patsy and will be under a fucking bus or ground
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a study needs to be done on this thread to show just how effective code words are when words aren’t words but symbols that mean so much more to where you use the symbols and people can’t even get past them to see the actual statements in between
fuckin amazing and why the dude is almost always gonna keep getting fucked because other dudes want to fuck him without even hearing his story and even when his story ain’t bad the code words evoke such emotion no other side of the story matters
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“I did all of the cooking and cleaning. I single-handedly refinished kitchen cabinets in both homes that we owned. I installed windows, laid tile flooring and countertops. I put in hardwood floors, light fixtures, garbage disposals, etc. I was the one mowing the lawn and maintaining the landscaping. I was the one taking care of plumbing issues, patching holes in walls and pressure washing the patio. I refinished furniture for our home, made clothing for our children, maintained a garden. I did the canning and the cooking from scratch.”
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Are you faggots buying this shit? No f’ing way bro. This hast to be a sock troll.
*shakes head*
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Chapter 13 doesn’t protect you from an unpaid mortgage.
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