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Comment Of The Week: A Woman’s Love Is Free To Those Who Know The Price

April 27, 2014 by CH

COTW winner is Burn It All (but not my fedora and new atheist soundbite collection dude), who writes,

“Fuck ‘em all” >>> FTW. Don’t take anything too seriously. Nobody’s getting out of here alive.

“It’s purely a materialistic mindset you are processing with.” Yes. It’s HER materialistic mindset that you let take control of your life. Nothing can fill the hole in her soul. Don’t ever start to try. Fill her three useful holes with your cock instead.

Think of all the ass you pulled in college when you lived in a shithole, sheets over the windows, furniture from the dumpster, pounding shitty beer and sleeping on a soiled mattress on the floor. She never talked about window treatments, new cars, McMansions or vacations. She just sucked your cock and spread her legs whenever you flashed that grin.

Now she wants you to trade your life energy for something she gave to a ton of other guys for NOTHING.

The minute you indulge her fiat/debt spending endless accumulation tendencies you have lost.

A supreme tragedy of Western womanhood (from a societal perspective) is that the best years of their sexual scrumptiousness (age 15-25) are spent defiled by charming layabouts without a pot to piss in. But this should prove to men who opt for the golddigger bribery strategy that women aren’t attracted to your credit line or 2,400 sq ft heating oil sink. A wad of cash and a 1/2 acre lawn won’t make tingles erupt; those things just obtain concubinage from women who are already past their prime and willing to tolerate the boredom of beta male reliability.

The day that men wake up to this reality is the day civilization collapses into its origin goo. Which is why it will never happen. Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.

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  1. on April 27, 2014 at 11:08 am DeNihilist

    ” Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

    So Fucking True!

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  2. on April 27, 2014 at 11:10 am Comment Of The Week: A Woman’s Love Is Free To Those Who Know The Price | Manosphere.com

    […] Comment Of The Week: A Woman’s Love Is Free To Those Who Know The Price […]

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:52 pm Zombie Shane

      Heartiste – are you ghostwriting over at iSteve?

      The Life of Lily, Bride of the Obama Administration
      April 27, 2014
      http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-life-of-lily-bride-of-obama.html

      If not, then I guess the big question would be: What is Steve’s moniker at The Chateau?

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 10:19 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzolzozolzolzol

      GBFM ECONOMICZ MAXIM # 1: A woman’s courtship value is equal or less than the lowest price she ever gave her pussy away for. lzolzoz

      GBFM ECOnOMICZ MAXIM # 1:

      A woman’s courtship value is equal or less than the lowest price she ever gave her pussy away for. lzozozoz

      After a woman has had a one-night stand
      or given her pussy for free
      her courtship value
      is 0.
      or less than 0.

      As why would you want to be the guy
      who pays for what others got when it was younger hotter tighter
      forty pounds lighter
      for freeee?

      lzozlzozlzzo

      After a woman passes 25, whence she has generally been buttcocked numerous times and desouled, her courtship value is negative. It is the woman, who is now wired fiat bernanke cash and allowed to excel in fiat bernanke programs that drug up and dumb down boyz while deocntsructing da GREAT BOOKS 4 MENZ and creating far more debt than wealth while bankruping the West morally amnd moneetarily, who must pay the man so as to court him.

      For a 25 year old multi-buttocked, desouled, bernankifed woman represents a huge risk to a man’s livelihood, his time, his conscience, his soul, his future earnings, and his general well-being. And the man must be compensated justly so as to have to court a woman over 25 who has been buttcocked and deousled and converted by the cenrta; bankerz into a vehicle of welath transfer lzozlz so dey could convert their masisve fiat debt into physical property by leveraging a woman’s sexuality for prviate profit gains while placing all teh risksz on good menz zlozzllz.

      lzolzolzozozozozoz

      lzlozolzlozol

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:31 am Zombie Shane

        > “a woman over 25 who has been buttcocked and deousled and converted by the cenrta; bankerz into a vehicle of welath transfer lzozlz so dey could convert their masisve fiat debt into physical property by leveraging a woman’s sexuality for prviate profit gains while placing all teh risksz on good menz zlozzllz”

        Possibly the single greatest GBFM evah.

        Particularly when you come to realize how big the Frankfurt School is in cosmetics and dietary supplements and “fashion”.

        QVC, the Frankfurt School shopping channel, is moving hard into the makeups and the perfumes.

        Order up some face paint for $0.49 per bottle from the Chicoms and then turn around and sell it to de-souled butthextualized aging wrinkled USA whores for $49.99 per bottle and force their their beta wage slave husbands to accept the ensuing fiat debt as a millstone about their necks?

        Wait’ll you see what the Frankfurt School does with fiat debt and stoners addicted to THC in Colorado.

        Pure Profit for them.

        Pure Profit.

        Meyer Lansky – the old prohibition liquor kingpin – will be spinning in his grave with envy.

        “We will sell you the rope with which you will hang yourselves.”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:12 am Grim

        “For a 25 year old multi-buttocked, desouled, bernankifed woman represents a huge risk to a man’s livelihood, his time, his conscience, his soul, his future earnings, and his general well-being.”

        This is so fucking true, dudes. Read carefully. There are no extra words here. Soul. General well-being. Soul. Livelihood. Ability to be alive.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 9:10 am aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

        zombie shane, do you have ADD? honest question

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 9:41 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        OT: The Sisterhood of the Hashtag Doctrine

        With this one tweet heard around the world, America has launched a new foreign policy strategy that must’ve been devised by a clique of high school girls desperate to retain their social capital. But what if I told you that there already was a clique of females — worthy of their very own chick flick –running our foreign policy?

        http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2014/4/26/the-sisterhood-of-the-hashtag-doctrine

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:33 pm Zombie Shane

        I dunno, Mr Axelrod, is “ADD” what y’all are calling the Red Pill these days?

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:59 pm Zombie Shane

        For those of you who still doubt the genius of GBFM:

        Report: Wall Street Republicans Prefer Hillary over Ted Cruz, Rand Paul

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/28/Report-Wall-Street-Republicans-Prefer-Hillary-over-Ted-Cruz-Rand-Paul

        Those of you who still doubt the magnitude of the PURE UNADULTERATED EVIL which is Wall Street.

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 7:30 am Zombie Shane

        DO NOT DOUBT THE GR8BOOKS4MEN:

        Thanks to Ridiculous Tuition More Coeds Becoming Strippers

        http://www.jammiewf.com/2014/state-of-higher-education-thanks-to-ridiculous-tuition-more-coeds-becoming-strippers/

        “Some of these girls came out of school with a $50,000 [or] $100,000 debt. And this is a way for them to not have this debt,” says Diaz.

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 5:45 pm aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

        no offense zombie, but if you don’t know what ADD is, you might need to get out more

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  3. on April 27, 2014 at 11:16 am tspark156

    I could have copied and pasted my comment to the last post right into this one.

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  4. on April 27, 2014 at 11:26 am Randy the Random

    The stupidity of the average man never ceases to amaze me. This dawned on me the day I graduated college. Girls at work suddenly started acting different when they knew I had money. They wanted “dates”. I just laughed and went along with it, but lo and behold they kept getting more demanding! I gave an inch, they wanted a lightyear. I wised up immediately, and told’em to shove it.

    So now I’m picking up high school seniors and freshmen instead. They don’t ask about money, and just want alpha instead of pimply, horny, pubescent boys.

    The younger the girl, the more distilled alpha they want. The wettest girl I ever fucked was a hot little half-asian schoolgirl, on whose face I dumped three full drinks (purposefully), and fucked relentlessly while her girlfriend was on the balcony.

    It was during springbreak, and I never told her my name. She called me “The Fucker”.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm Tilikum

      careful son….the tradcons, boomers and sissy’s want white babies and players just wanna play lol.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:36 am Zombie Shane

        The tradcons want you to hang around after the child is born so as to be able to teach the child the difference between right and wrong.

        Cause the poor stupid baby momma sure don’t know the difference.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 11:45 am Randy the Random

        I respect what the tradcons are trying to do, but you can’t convince a stone to roll uphill. Girls are all the same, religion was invented to scare them from pursuing their deepest (alpha cock) desires. Well the cat’s out of the bag, and all those slutty church girls are the proof.

        Female nature doesn’t support civilization. And we men will just give women what they want. If they wanted lifelong commitment, they wouldn’t be hosting The Cock Olympics in their pussies on a daily basis. Not that I’m complaining, but a whore makes a poor wife (but a good ride). Men will be fine either way. Once it all comes down, and they can’t go outside without being raped, we’ll see the pendulum swing the other way.

        Look at it this way, once society collapses, the bank accounts are lost. The fucking elites playing games with us will be hanged in the street. Most people think we’re gonna go all feral after that, but the reality is society will spring back up with new rules. I bet you those rules won’t include no-fault divorce, alimony, nor giving women “half”. Oh, and any potential bride is a virgin. The non-virgins have lucrative, lifelong jobs as whores.

        I’m sick and tired of this bullshit artificial society with its unnatural “norms” and “rules”. Not that I respect it anyway, but the giving retarded cops the ability to ruin your life because you’re not a prince of the elite is fucking stupid. Any other time in history, I’d put a bullet through the skull of a wannabe tough guy trying to have his fun at my expense. Oh, and this goes for us whites too. The cops are the instrument of the elite, not race warriors.

        Have a look at human history. Our society is very far from the “average” human society over the past then thousand years. Reversion to the mean is a bitch.

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  5. on April 27, 2014 at 11:32 am Amy

    “Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

    Why must they be blinded? I assume men who want children also want them brought up in some semblance of a secure environment, not on dumpster furniture surrounded by beer cans and leftover pizza.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 5:30 pm Charlie Don't Surf

      In the Amazon, people hunt monkey. They cut a hole in a coconut just big enough for a monkeys hand – but too small for its fist. They then fill the coconut with sweet berries – a monkey favorite – then tie a rope to it and toss it into a clearing.

      The monkey comes along, smells sweet berries and sticks his hand into the trap – then the hunter slowly reels him in. The monkey, being biologically driven, will not release the food – and in clutching it, cannot remove his fist from the trap – He’s caught, captured and devoured …

      What makes this such an effective trap is that the monkey is trapped by his own values. Poor monkey doesn’t realize all it needs to do is give up a meal – open it’s hand, let it go – and escape with its freedom? Doesn’t he see? The forest is full of sweet berries!

      He’s not really blind – He just can’t see beyond his immediate situation.

      Providing ‘some semblance of security’ is the rope on the value trap.

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    • on April 29, 2014 at 8:06 am Jackye

      The game is survival for the sake of survival, replication for the sake of replication. That’s all life is. My interpretation is that we’re “blind” because us humans dress it up and make it seem like we’re doing something else when really it’s just our biology gaming us, following the DNA molecule’s agenda.

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm Charlie Don't Surf

        My Y-chromosones produce a billion swimmies a day.

        You’re X-chromosones produce one egg a month.

        My Mom warned me I’d go “blind” clearing out the surplus swimmies.

        She just knew.

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  6. on April 27, 2014 at 11:35 am Peter Connor

    This is why civilization IS collapsing–smarter men have figured this out, dumber ones haven,t.

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    • on April 30, 2014 at 11:11 pm Subway Masturbator

      What planet do you wing nuts live on? The malls are full, the Priuses run great, and the roads are like glass here in America. The rest of the world that lives in real filth just laughs at the idea there’s any kind of apocalypse around you.

      What do see as Apocalype? Walmart is out of your Duck Dynasty camp hoodie?

      No one says “boo” to you, you can make as much money as you want the cops are as polite as social workers.

      You’re strange and VERY paranoid lot.

      Yeah, “the end is near”. A guy walks by with a piece of cardboard saying that every day. It’s been being said for thousands of years. You’re morons.

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 7:49 am Canadian Friend

        There is a long list of reasons why we say there is decay, signs of collapsing, we are not paranoid, some of those things can and are being measured, they are real.

        here is one off the top of my head,

        … The American middle class, long the most affluent in the world, has lost that distinction.

        While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades….

        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html?_r=0

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  7. on April 27, 2014 at 12:18 pm Ripp

    If you really want to piss off a past their prime and waining (mid 20s+) woman- pretty much any of them, lump this knowledge bit in front of them during the argument thread if you’re talking about anything related to female beauty.

    …and watch the show. (Nibble on pop corn)

    It’s the silver bullet tactical nuke that will send her hamster flying off the wheel and bouncing around her brain.

    It’ll remind her of how much of a slut she was, and how much less valuable she is now as she desperately grasps to any rationinalization, attempted reframe and/or personal attacks against you to numb her pain.

    Prima facie, a direct serving of this knowledge is indeed *not* a seduction tactic. Rather a sure fire way to piss a chic a off.

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  8. on April 27, 2014 at 12:34 pm Michael

    Important. Editor. Please weigh in.

    How do you reverse this, if have started down that path 4-6 months ago?

    Mid-30’s. Both specialist physicians. Good earning potential from both.

    Advice requested. Please help.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm Michael

      Don’t reply here. Please reply below.

      This post opened my eyes. How do I reverse it.

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  9. on April 27, 2014 at 12:34 pm CH reader

    “The day that men wake up to this reality is the day civilization collapses into its origin goo. Which is why it will never happen. Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

    CH:

    This subject matter sounds really interesting, BUT I don’t understand what you mean here. Could you offer an elaboration/explanation/translation of each sentence and how they relate to the empirical observation in the post?

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  10. on April 27, 2014 at 12:35 pm Michael

    Reposting so I get email notification of replies. Please reply here. Important. Editor. Please weigh in.

    How do you reverse this, if have started down that path 4-6 months ago?

    Mid-30′s. Both specialist physicians. Good earning potential from both.

    Advice requested. Please help.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:41 pm Glengarry

      Tell them you filed for bankruptcy and see if they still hang around.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 12:46 pm Michael

        Something a little more realistic?

        I guess that is showing that I am afraid to lose her.

        Fuck.

        I used to be alpha. Something happened.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm Zombie Shane

        What the hell is wrong with falling in love and starting a family?

        Do you really want to be that lonely miserable anti-life nihilist who will be staring back at you in the mirror in another ten years?

        Just keep up Alpha frame after the kids are born, and you’ve got nothing to worry about.

        In fact, I’d wager that a substantial portion of the readers at The Chateau are married dudes looking for ways to hold their marriages together.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:02 pm Zombie Shane

        BONUS TIP: Knock her up BEFORE you marry her.

        Do not concede the whole Cinderella fantasy wedding horseshit nonsense spectacle which takes two years of planning [ergo two more precious years of her fertility] and $100,000 in asinine expenses.

        In fact, I’d strongly urge you to get several children out of her before you even begin to talk about marriage.

        If for no other reason than to prove that she was still fertile in the first place.

        You don’t want to swear an oath to “foresake all others” with any bitch who might not be able to give you children.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:04 pm Zombie Shane

        Well, I’m already 3-for-3 on this thread in having comments get stuck in the LIFO stack.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:59 pm FamilyMan

        1 for 1 here on a long reply.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 3:00 pm Glengarry

        You and your girlfriend are mid-30s specialists, there’s either a lack of attraction in the air or she wants you to fill her material needs. OK, so what do you want to achieve, Michael?

        (I’m guessing she ultimately wants to get knocked up in comfy circumstances rather soon? Tick tock.)

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 6:49 pm Zombie Shane

        > “1 for 1 here on a long reply.”

        And then you see these field reports which are frigging 1250 words long.

        How do they make it past the LIFO stack?

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 9:33 am FamilyMan

        donno Zombie, but perhaps our little repartee here has relegated our helpful comments to the dustbin of … well just the dustbin.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 4:21 pm Anon

      Flirt with other women. Act aloof and indifferent.
      Fuck her savagely and treat her like a whore in bed. Try to connect emotionally afterwards but fuck her even harder the next day

      If she ever asks why you became so different, reply with why are YOU so different?

      Worked for me.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:43 pm kaizersoze71

        Anon is correct. Don’t be predictable and of course flirt with other women. You’re the prize, not them.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:40 am The Steve Bennett

        “Why are YOU so different?”

        Outstanding. Always flip it back on her. It’s HER problem, something SHE did or didn’t do.

        This is hamster crack as her life is all about her anyway.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 6:08 pm Mistral

      Here’s the straight dope:

      1. Decide if it’s okay if you lose her. If it isn’t, in your mind, then stop reading and get used to your balls being in her purse.

      2. Still with me? Ok, let’s assess the situation. You’re both mid 30s, successful (or on the cusp thereof) specialty physicians. Except you’re a man and she’s a woman. That means you’re just hitting prime time, and she’s hitting The Wall. Don’t believe me? Has anyone ever said to her, “Damn, girl, that MD looks GREAT on you!” Answer: No.

      3. Take the pussy OFF of the pedestal. Why was she ever on it in the first place? How did she get to decide when you get laid? I suspect she may think she’s the MAN in the relationship. What happens, you both come home from work and she’s “too tired” or starts whining about her day? Don’t let her turn you into a pussy beggar….

      4. This diamond thing has me a bit leery. Engagement ring? Diamond earrings? Dunno what state you’re in, but you’re a doctor and if for some insane reason you get married, you need to pre-nup the hell out of that marriage. Assuming you’re in as state where those matter. And once there are kids (if there are to be kids, which either (a) there are not or (b) that dried up, dusty raisin of a mid-30s womb is SCREAMING for), then child support is what it is. But whatever you do (on the kids front) do NOT let her quit her job.

      5. People LURN what we teach them, and you’ve taught her that she’s on the pedestal and is entitled. You need to shut that down like a leaky reactor. Get a couple of glasses of wine into her and talking sex. Ask her what her deepest, secret fantasy is. There are a number of them, of course, but two common ones for girls are (a) sex with another woman and/or (b) tie me up. That second one is key, because you need to introduce some light bondage in the bedroom. Blindfold her, spread-eagle her, and play that body like a Stradivarius. Take your time, get her properly heated, and then make her wait. When does she get to orgasm? When you say she does. And then she doesn’t get to STOP orgasming until you let her (depending, of course, on her capabilities).

      6. Outside of the bedroom, you need to start setting parameters. Cut down on the flowers/gifts/jewelry and shaddap about it. Let her female brain wonder what is wrong (sometimes, the Hamster is your Friend….) If she asks, “Why don’t you bring me flowers anymore?” as her what she’s done to earn them. Have her cook dinner for you. (I have dated lawyers (mistake), doctors, and professors. Every single one of them has cooked dinner for me.)

      7. You should be working on gaming other girls. Think of it as “going to the gym”. The incumbent may have gotten too entitled. If she walks (which is an acceptable outcome), better for you to be able to hit the ground running. If there is a break-up and she whines to her friends about how you are a freak or have a small dick or any number of lies, your story is that she couldn’t satisfy you sexually. Let word of THAT get around. It will drive a stake through her heart b/c she will have FAILED at the one thing that Nature intended her for, and you will have Won the Break-up.

      8. Hit the gym. You probably haven’t been (I could be wrong of course) and if not, then you’ll start to feel better about yourself and it will improve your SMV if/when the break-up happens.

      9. Get out there and Rock Out with your Cock Out. Own your life, my friend. Adios letting your pleasures depend on what kind of mood she’s in on any given day.

      À bientôt,

      Mistral

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 11:51 pm Michael

        Appreciate it.

        Great advice.

        The were diamond earrings

        I fuck her incredibly well. I pin her down and in the bedroom I am in charge.

        Am in incredibly good shape. Sixpack. Cut. Telling you this not to be defensive but to clarify.

        She did get on a pedistal. Did it to get her attention. This does need to stop.

        Appreciate the advice and help.

        Please elaborate if my comments have given you any further ideas

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 11:54 pm Michael

        Ps. Huge cock.

        I let her mood affect my day. Point 9 was money. Pure gold that advice.

        Merci tellement.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 8:07 pm Mistral

        Michael:

        Ok, so begin the de-pedestalization program, post haste. She’s going to notice, and if she complains, neg her on it—“Well, aren’t YOU an entitled little princess. But don’t worry; I’ll spank it out of you…”

        Fundamentally, I think you need to decide what you want with her. If it’s LTR/Marriage*, and you want to breed smart kids, great…she’s an MD, so good news, but as she’s in her mid-30s she needs to get on that.
        OTOH, if you are more in it for fun, you need to think things through. There’s an age when Pussy Is Magic™ but that’s not mid-30s, so you should not be permitting her to exercise control over you. You need to be the Shot-Caller, and she needs to understand it. As a highly accomplished woman, she may be developing entitlement issues (I don’t want to assume anything, but I’ve seen it happen—like 90% of the time). After all, she’s bright, educated, and has a great career, etc. As I’ve said to similarly situated women in my life, “That’s great, but guys don’t want to bang *other guys*.”** No diploma or professional license compares to the feel of youthful and supple flesh. If she’s not satisfying your needs as a man, you need to make a decision before she’s demanding a different kind of diamond….

        If you want to stay with her, you can game her by indulging in the prequalification by other women. What makes a girl want you? That other women want you. You have a high status career, are in good shape and have, well, other enviable characteristics, so this should be no problem.
        One final note: if she’s having a bad day and her mood affected your groove and it was just a one-off, fine, but one rule I have is Zero Tolerance for negativity. I will take a Sunny Seven over a Negative Nine 7 out of 7 days a week…okay probably 5 days out of 7, but you get my point: no man should be running a “Outreach Program” for Bitter Bitches.

        Anyway, good luck. My advice, such as it may be, is the product of long and difficult experience, but to you, it’s free.

        De Rien

        Mistral

        *NTTAWWT

        **Well, 90% of us don’t….

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 10:56 pm Tilikum

      stay frosty nigga and be a ghost.

      no contact for 4 days. bitch dont show up at your door crying…..never call her.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 7:52 am Zombie Shane

      Okay, dude, we’ve been teasing you a lot so far.

      But here’s a serious idea – try HONESTY GAME.

      Be completely honest with her about all of this shit.

      Just don’t do it within a “Butthurt” Frame.

      Do it within a devil-may-care no-water-off-my-back Honey Badger Frame.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 7:57 am Zombie Shane

        Shit like:

        “Jesus H Christ you are the highest maintenance woman I have ever had dated in my life. By a frigging country mile…”

        “God damn it, I swear you manipulate me worse than my own mother…”

        “If I didn’t get such a massive hard-on from being wrapped around your little finger, I’d be getting pretty pissy about now…”

        “Okay, General Patton…”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:03 am Zombie Shane

        I was going to say, “Start calling her Attila the Hun.”

        But then I had a stroke of genius: Start calling her ATIA THE HUN.

        Which means that – if you aren’t familiar with it already – then you two simply must get the Rome DVDs and watch them from beginning to end.

        Just make it clear that you are NOT the loser Marcus Antonius.

        That, instead, you are one of the winners – Octavian Augustus, Titus Pullo, or maybe Lucius Vorenus [in which case you must joke with her about being a hopeless white knight].

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 11:30 am Theodore Logan

      Sorry dude, let it go. You are fucked. Seriously, let her go, and move on. There is nothing you can do to salvage whatever you thought had.

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  11. on April 27, 2014 at 12:35 pm Rick250

    “Which is why it will never happen. Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

    Kinda reminds me of the life cycle of a salmon. Just its initial struggle to make it to the ocean seems against the odds; spending 3-5 years there traveling long distances avoiding all types of predators including man; and all types of hardship to get big and strong enough to finally one day return to that little spawning channel in some obscure river up to 900 miles upstream. All for what? Just to get laid once/reproduce..then die. None of them say ‘fuck this shit’.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:39 pm Rick250

      FGTOW =/= reality

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:23 pm Jackye

      Humans ARE salmon, nothing more. We just fool ourselves into believing otherwise because we’re at the top of the pyramid. This is all fucking futile. Glad you understand this, because most men are in denial while “clanking away.” There are some, humans at least, who say ‘fuck this shit.’ They live meager existences, not worrying about pussy or other shit (because they know it will mean nothing one day), having just enough to survive until death, trying desperately to escape the void. Some just say fuck it and go suicide.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:51 pm Theodore Logan

        And yet still, others just say fuck it, and go predator. For example, Ted Bundy, BTK, and Charles Manson.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 4:24 pm Anon

        Depression and existential spiraling down is not a way to go through life, son.

        Get money, fuck bitches. There’s Life’s meaning for you.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 5:44 pm Jackye

        To an extent, once you’ve accomplished so much there’s nothing left to do, because you recognize that it’s one giant circle that becomes less and less fulfilling each time around. Doesn’t sound like your returns are too diminished yet, so keep plugging away, I just suggest not procreating and bringing a new creature to do the same damn shit all over again, all in the name of the almighty DNA molecule.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 8:01 pm Rick250

        We are the figurative salmon that say ‘fuck this shit’..we as alphas TRY our best to live life by our rules not just natures. We are the self-aware ones. We are the outliers.
        You are eluding to MGTOW or pua ennui..paths to avoid

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:16 pm Aha

        Assuming some Platonic Glue that timelessly binds souls to some material narrative, intelligible to modern hu-mans: Life is the worst thing you can do to someone.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:54 pm Jackye

        Rick: Any fish in the pond is still swimming just like the others(it’s just that some are doing flips or some shit over the dam, which psychologically cues up the females), a slave to their biology. The only thing to do is perish or end it; end the consumption-reproduction-cannibalism-addiction cycle.

        Aha: Life is indeed “the worst thing you can do to someone.”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:47 am haunted trilobite

        Have you ever heard of the of the “three realms”? From wikipedia: “world of desire, typified by base desires, populated by hell beings, preta (hungry ghosts), animals, ghosts, humans and lower demi-gods”. Lives reincarnate within this 6 fold path of transmigration, in order to pay off the karma accrued in each lifetime.
        From Zhuan Falun, by Li Hongzhi – “there’s a truth in this universe: the things that happen to ordinary people, as Buddhists put it, all have underlying causes, and for ordinary people things like birth, aging, sickness, and death are just a fact of life. People only have health problems and suffering because they did bad things in the past and made karma. When they go through hard times they are paying off a karmic debt”

        Within this confusing maze we can cultivate a righteous law to gain salvation.

        “nobody is more precious than a cultivator. He wants to cultivate, and that’s the most precious thought. In Buddhism they talk about Buddha-nature, and that when a person’s Buddha-nature comes out the Enlightened Beings can help him. And what do they mean by that? If you ask me, since I’m transmitting a practice on a higher level, it involves truths from high levels, and the issues it touches on are huge. In this universe, human life, as we see it, isn’t generated in the ordinary world. A person’s true life is generated in the space of the universe. The reason being, there are many types of matter in this universe that produce life, and these types of matter can generate life through motion and interaction. What this means is that a person’s earliest life originates in the universe. The space of the universe is inherently
        good, and its nature is to be True, Good, and Endure, and when a person is born he has the same nature as the universe. But as more beings are created, community-like social relationships form. Some of the beings might grow selfish and gradually lower their levels, so they can’t stay at that level and have to drop. But then at the next level they become not so good again, and again they can’t stay there, so they keep dropping down and down, until at some point they finally drop to this level of human beings. The whole human society is at one level. When they drop down this far, these beings
        were supposed to be destroyed if they are looked at only in terms of abilities, or only from the standpoint of the Great Enlightened Beings. But Great Enlightened Beings take compassion as their starting point, so they gave them another chance and made this special environment and this special dimension. The beings in this dimension are different from the beings in all other dimensions in the universe. The beings in this dimension can’t see the beings in other dimensions, and they can’t see how the universe really is, so it’s just like these people have dropped into a realm of delusion. If they want
        to get healed, get rid of adversity, or eliminate their karma, then they’ve got to cultivate and return to their original, true selves. That’s how all the different cultivation ways see it. A person should return to his original, true self—that’s actually the true purpose of being human. So, once somebody wants to cultivate, they’d say his Buddha-nature has come out. That thought is the most precious, because he wants to return to his original, true self, he wants to break out of this level of ordinary people. Maybe you’ve heard the Buddhist saying, “When a person’s Buddha-nature comes out it shakes the Ten-Directional World.” Whoever sees this will help him, and they’ll help him no matter what. Buddhists believe that saving people has no conditions attached, it’s done at whatever cost, and they can help him unconditionally” – (Zhuan Falun)

        “There’s something that has always been true in this universe: when you want to return to your original, true self, there are beings that will help you. They think that a person’s being is supposed to return instead of staying in the environment of ordinary people. If the human race was made free of all sickness and lived in total comfort, even if you were given a chance to be a Celestial Being you wouldn’t take anyone up on it. You’d have no health problems, you’d have no hardships, and you’d have whatever you wanted—wouldn’t that be great? That’d really be like a Celestial Being’s world. But it’s because you became bad that you dropped this far, so you won’t feel well. It’s easy for people to do bad things when they’re in delusion. In Buddhism this is called karmic retribution. So, usually when people have tribulations or bad things happen, for example, they’re paying for their karma by karmic retribution. In Buddhism they say that Buddhas are everywhere. With the wave of a Buddha’s hand all of the human race’s sicknesses could
        be gone, and they can definitely do that. So with that many Buddhas around, why don’t they? People have to suffer like that because they owe debts from doing bad things in the past, and if you heal them it’s the same as violating the laws of the universe, it’s the same as letting him do bad things and letting him not pay back what he owes, and that’s not allowed. That’s why everybody upholds the way of things in the ordinary world and
        nobody upsets it. Nothing but cultivation can make you feel great, be free of sickness, and bring you true liberation! Having people cultivate true teachings is real “saving all sentient beings.” – (Zhuan Falun)

        “The Three Realms talked about in some religions refers to the nine levels of Heaven, or the 33 levels of Heaven, in other words, Heaven, Earth, and the Underworld make up all the beings in the Three Realms. They say that all living things within the 33 levels of Heaven have to go through Transmigration. What Transmigration means, is that while somebody is a human being in this life, maybe he’ll be an animal in the next life. In Buddhism it’s said that a person should seize the years he has in this life, and that if he
        doesn’t cultivate now, when will he? They say that because animals aren’t allowed to cultivate, and they aren’t allowed to listen to the Law, and even if they do cultivate they can’t achieve a True Fruition. If their gong (cultivation energy) reaches a high level they’ll be slain by Heaven. You aren’t able to get a human body in hundreds of years. It’s taken over 1,000 years for you to get it, and you don’t even know to cherish it. If you reincarnate into a rock you won’t be able to get out of it for 10,000 years, and if that rock isn’t crushed, or if it doesn’t weather away, you’ll never be able to get out. Getting a human body is so hard! If a person can really obtain the Great Law he’s just so fortunate. A human body is hard to get—that’s how they see it” – (Zhuan Falun)

        “Human beings have done bad things and dropped into this realm of delusion, so they have to cultivate by awakening in the midst of the delusion, and that’s why the Enlightened Beings can’t teach them. If you saw a living, real Buddha teaching you the Law and how to do exercises, even people who’ve committed unpardonable sins would come to learn, and everybody would believe then. Then what would be left to awaken to? There wouldn’t be
        a question of awakening. Human beings are supposed to be annihilated since they dropped into this realm of delusion of their own doing. But you’ve been given one more chance to go back out of the delusion. If you are able to return, then you return, but if you can’t return, what’s in store for you is continued reincarnation and destruction.” – (Zhuan Falun)

        Have you any new perspectives on the life course of the salmon now? In order to gain a new perspective on this life, I recommend reading all of Mr. Li Hongzhi’s lectures on this page http://falundafa.org/eng/falun-dafa-books.html

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 7:44 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Since nothing really matters, how about you say fuck it and do whatever you want in life? “OMG, there’s no magic creator to tell me what to do and we’re not special animals so I just want to die” is an idiotic frame. I suppose it stems from someone’s identity is invested into being special and the realization that they’re nothing. It doesn’t even follow logically that you ought to not perpetuate life just because we’re enslaved to our biology and/or there’s no objective purpose to life.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:07 pm Jackye

        Haunted: save the spiritual stuff for your religious friends, or the scientists who worship rocks

        Pajama: I agree that it comes from a realization that this is nothing, but it’s not illogical like you make it seem: 1) if I told you to start a business that wasn’t going to make you any money in the end, you’d tell me to fuck off and 2) to perpetuate this is to force suffering upon sentient creatures (other humans, animals). The logical decision is to press the red button and zap everything away, if such a device existed

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 10:22 am The Burninator

        @Jackye

        Your spiel demonstrates a lack of intellectual depth. You pin too much meaning on the material and nothing in the realm of intellectual curiosity or spiritual curiosity. In the physical sense yes, we all want to procreate just like salmon, clearly, and this is a prime directive built into our DNA. But men can be more than the sum of their penile impulses (not that there’s anything at all wrong with wanting to fuck a dame). Great works of art, literature, engineering and music come from men who, while reproducing, looked for and found something deeper and more meaningful than a hand to mouth concrete physical bound world. At least Manfred, once he came to despair, only did so after exhausting all of the gauntlet of thought and creativity. The way you speak tells me you’re not even interested in looking into even the most modest of those activities, so I ask, why? Futility? Well fuck, everything is ultimately futile since the sun will at some point in time consume this planet, is that a reason to sit in a slump? Not to me. Too much to see and do, too much to experience, too many thoughts and ideas to flesh out in my head on a fine summer day.

        Defeatism is a self fulfilling mindset.

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 10:29 am Canadian Friend

        Great comment The Burninator.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 5:54 am haunted trilobite

        Jackye: I presented some direct quotes from Zhuan Falun so that you could formulate your own interpretations and gain a new perspective. As you can see, others have also chimed in with their ideas. You seem to be labouring under the impression that “life is the worst thing anyone can do to another” as someone mentioned earlier. Admirable as it may be, in a certain sense, if you “do the decent thing” and don’t procreate, those lives will find another womb to reincarnate into (assuming reincarnation is a real phenomenon).

        I don’t have a single religious friend, or know any geologists. As you well know, it takes a lot of mental strength to face the realisation that life is futile, as you put it. Well, it takes even more to sever all the human desires that confine us to these three realms. As things stand, it’s doubtful I’ll succeed in doing so, but will try at the very least. If only it were so simple as having religious friends, going to a nice cozy church together and ogling the pretty girls (who’ll be wearing miniskirts later that night in da clubb). You know this blog is read and commented on by quite a few discerning gentlemen. Those who “get it” to some degree or other. I’d like to consider myself in that bracket, and therefore am confident when I recommend Falun Dafa. I can assure you, it’s not like the vague “superstitions” that people have grown accustomed to and lost interest in, in this technological 21st century. It’s none of my concern what you believe or how you look at life. I merely wanted to share something that gave me some hope among all the futility.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 6:21 am Canadian Friend

        I googled Falun and found this,

        … Falun Dafa involves the cultivation of a Falun, or “law wheel.” The Falun is an intelligent, rotating entity composed of high-energy matter. The Falun that Master Li Hongzhi plants in a practitioner’s lower abdomen from other dimensions rotates constantly, twenty-four hours a day….

        that is W-A-Y too weird for me…an energy wheel in my abdomen? that is rotating? seriously?

        this is worse than primitive superstitions…as if we had never ever had such a thing called science and we had never heard of biology, physics, chemistry, or even psychology…as if we still believed throwing virgins down volcanoes would prevent them from erupting…

        a rotating energy wheel in my abdomen…(((shaking my head in disbelief)))

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 1:41 pm haunted trilobite

        Yes, Canadian Friend, it’s quite a concept. Of course the Falun exists in another dimension, and works to transform a practitioner’s bodies in other dimensions. This human body doesn’t gain a wheel in the abdomen, and go tangling up the intestines, of course. The key element of the practice is upgrading one’s character to align with the nature of the universe, which is to be true, good and endure (Zhen-Shan-Ren in Chinese). Cultivation energy (gong) grows as one’s moral character upgrades to align with higher level laws.

        The exercises of Falun Dafa drive the energy mechanisms which cause the changes in other dimensions, but this flesh body also gains huge health benefits. Monks who used to cultivate in the past would sit cross-legged in trance, doing no exercises as such, but their bodies in other dimensions were changing. You can even find body parts of Christian saints and Buddhist monks that haven’t decomposed though they died thousands of years ago. It seems somewhat inconceivable to talk about bodies in other dimensions, but this quote from Mr Li might help to contextualise it more in line with our Western thinking: “Since Western culture doesn’t have the concept of self-cultivation, neither Jesus nor Yahweh mentioned the term “cultivation” back when they taught their Fa (Law); there wasn’t even that concept. The reason is, they knew “Cultivation depends on oneself, while gong depends on one’s master.” As long as one practiced cultivation, everything would be helped by the god of the heavenly paradise one would go to. He would effect changes in your body, transform your body, and enable your body to attain the great power that a god has. All of that would be done by gods… Buddhas and gods are infinitely brilliant, even brighter than sunlight. Wouldn’t a person’s spirit dissolve were he to see a god? How could it go to Heaven? It thus needs to have the body of a god and, at the same time, change the compositional elements of its intelligent beings through cultivation to make them comprised of high-energy matter. Only with a Buddha-body or a god-body can it go. Can a spirit come to the human world? No, it can’t. So before it can stay in this world, it needs to have a human body to reincarnate with and needs to be born through the bodies of parents.”

        Physics, chemistry and biology are of course a very important part of mankind’s understanding of the laws that govern this level of the universe. However there are higher level laws, such as the many Great Ways taught by enlightened beings who descended to the earth to provide salvation to humans in the past. Even Einstein gravitated towards religion towards the end of his life. Some form of Eastern “mysticism”.

        Believe me, there is absolutely nothing wicked like sacrificing virgins in this practice, as that is a case of harming beings, and is in opposition to the nature of the universe. It’s quite difficult for me to explain in a short paragraph here, and I wouldn’t attempt to try and teach the Buddha Law. A short paragraph on wikipedia won’t do it justice either. If you really want a proper understanding of it, I recommend going to the source publications. http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/pdf/zfl_new.pdf http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/pdf/flg_2006.pdf
        http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/lectures/19960728L.html
        http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/lectures/1996L.html
        I would wager that you’ll be amazed by what you read.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm Director

      Here’s run down:

      We are here to experience love.

      Have fun doing it. The plumbing might disgust you but overall love your life anyway. Don’t be such a cunt about it.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 11:26 pm Subway Masturbator

        Life is the worst thing you can do to someone? I don’t know-there’s cool stuff to look at, trees and stuff.

        And you can play the guitar and chicks will like squeal and stuff. You can’t tell me that’s not fun.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm Modern Primitive

      “All for what? Just to get eaten by a bear”

      FTFY

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 10:24 pm Rick250

        The best cure for life’s blues is fucking 8s,9’s,and 10,s…cased closed. lol.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 3:32 am gunslingergregi

        when your always with the hottest bitch in the club and she hanging off your nuts it helps a little

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:45 am Zombie Shane

        > “We are the figurative salmon that say ‘fuck this shit’..”

        > “All for what? Just to get eaten by a bear”

        Oh for fuck’s sake.

        This is the Dark Enlightenment.

        The Manosphere.

        CHATEAU FRIGGING CHARLES DE GAULLE AIRPORT IN PARIS FRANCE HEARTISTE!

        YOU ARE THE BEAR!!!!!

        Now go feast on some salmon for dinner.

        No wonder you little faggots can’t get laid.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:46 am Jackye

        Except when diminishing returns kick in and you’re no longer satisfied. Cycle, cycle, cycle.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:16 pm Jackye

        ZS: you’re obviously still obsessed with getting laid. Cool. Some people move past that after it’s no longer fulfilling (or as fulfilling as it used to be)

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  12. on April 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm CH reader

    “How do you reverse this, if have started down that path 4-6 months ago?”

    What path are you referring to?

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:41 pm Michael

      Catering to her materialistic desires

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 12:46 pm CH reader

        Well first, provide is with more detail about what constitutes “catering” in this instance.

        Second, why does it concern you? Are you worried that you will lose money, lose their attraction, what?

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:57 pm FamilyMan

        I think that in LTR’s (I’ve been married 20 years almost) fundamentals come to the surface. You are no longer in the glow of the first few years of marriage, certainly not any more if the kids are a few years old. The rush that swept you into marriage has dissipated, and her you are. Reevaluation begins, especially by the female, but by the male sometimes too.

        If you’re tall, dark and handsome (or have other attraction to her) so that she would have married you without money or career, then I think you can relax and things will stay together. The fundamentals are in your favor.

        If you bought this relationship by your stability, school success, etc.and that stuff has worn off or become less important, then things may go south very fast. You have a choice here: try to keep her, or don’t. I recommend not trying. That will come off best.

        Some guys here say you have to game your wife continually. Well fuck that, I don’t have to. If she leaves because I have a streak of beta, goodbye. If I have to continue to buy her affection, it’s actually a good thing to hit a bump to upset that status quo. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to buy my wife’s attraction.

        The way to stop buying her affection is to stop.

        But it’s almost impossible for two specialist physicians to run out of money, to the point that this “camouflage” is removed. You’re upper middle class, man. So am I. It’s impossible to live our professional lives in a primitive way. Don’t even try.

        You both are adults and have choices. If you’re afraid that you’re losing her, my advice is to do nothing except stop being afraid. And if you’re in a pattern of buying her affection, stop it cold. A mid 30’s single male specialist physician practicing in USA has the world of young pussy available to him, and if your current woman wants to leave over matters of physical provisioning, let her go. Don’t beg or try to help or anything. Put all the responsibility and risk for her behavior squarely on her, and accept full responsibility for your behavior yourself. Don’t be codependent.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 3:03 pm corvinus

        Don’t be the beta bucks.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 8:14 pm Anonymous

        As a medical specialist married to medical specialist, probably a few years ahead of you, I will say DON’T let her stop working or cut her hours when she gets pregnant. DON’T kill yourself trying to outearn her. Let her bring home the ca$h too. I told her she could quit but we would have to move to rural Iowa or someplace where my specialty is in great demand. That kept her working. As long as she makes as much or more than you, you have some hope of not paying alimony. Keep your own schedule reasonable, knowing if you ever split from her you can ramp it up when you need to. And just watch how many high quality pieces of ass come along that are younger and hotter than her every year. And I mean students and residents who can pull down just as much as she does but are ten years younger. Every year I see one who makes me say “damn, what if I had waited…”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:02 pm Zombie Shane

        > ” A mid 30′s single male specialist physician practicing in USA has the world of young pussy available to him, and if your current woman wants to leave over matters of physical provisioning, let her go.”

        I actually have no argument with anything you’ve written.

        What I got out of his original tone of voice, though, was that he’s completely smitten with this chick.

        Thinking that she might be THE ONE.

        The mother of his children.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:04 pm Zombie Shane

        What I need to know is whether she is fundamentally a decent human being [pro-life] or fundamentally a witch.

        And talking with her about Roe -v- Wade will quickly cut through all the bullshit and get straight to the heart of the matter.

        If she’s pro-life, then everything else can be dealt with by maintaining the proper frame.

        But if she’s pro-murder, then no house built upon a foundation of sand will persevere.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 9:28 am Charlie Don't Surf

      Recognize the message of this post – In terms of sexual attraction, Women don’t care about materialistic security. They understand the distinction between alpha fun / beta bux – and know that their agenda – to secure a provider – works in opposition to their sexual attraction. To them – It’s the cost of doing business.

      Once seen as a provider, the sex and affection comes at a price. Your professional situation makes you the target of hypergamy – and the material price she’ll extract will be increasingly steep – quickly eroding sexual attraction.

      Doctor, bed death is imminent.

      Your use of the word ‘potential’ indicates you might just be starting out in collecting up security – and here on out, she’ll be more “entitled” to those trappings of your success.

      Meanwhile, any attempt at reversal will be seen as taking the relationship backwards – and you will be blamed. She’d rather start over with someone else than renegotiate terms.

      Forget reversal. Consider next.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:11 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Forget reversal. Consider next.”

        You’re selling Game way short, my man.

        Bitches actually love it when their beta schlub loser tools start waking up and showing a little masculinity.

        That’s the entire point of Game – the power of positive thinking – that you very much CAN turn the tables on the bitch and start wearing the pants in the family.

        To say that it is impossible is merely to imply that the man in question lacks the strength of will to pull it off.

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 10:49 am Grim

        Yep, but he doesn’t want to hear it because he thinks he’ll never find someone as pretty and thin as her again. It’s really that simple.

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  13. on April 27, 2014 at 12:54 pm Michael

    CH reader.

    Paying for most everything. Flowers each week. Expensive de beers diamonds before we slept together. Great sex but on her terms when she wants it. Dinners at the nicest restaurants. Etc. She likes me but does she see who I really am or the money being spent on her

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 12:59 pm CH reader

      Seems excessive, so much so that your question comes off as putting us on. I’ll take it at face value for the moment.

      You should probably scale back. But if you can afford it, what is your worry?

      Also, your comment implies there is female to male attraction in the mating market based on “who a man really is” rather than on what resources a man can offer a female. Are you sure that is the case?

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 1:57 pm Michael

        Not putting you on. I can easily afford it. You realize how much specialists make? Single doc. No debt. Etc.

        I would like her to love me for who I am as a person. Not what i do for her

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 2:31 pm Pluviophile

        I would like her to love me for who I am as a person.

        Here is the cancer expressing itself in its fully glory: You want a girl to love ‘you’, for ‘you’. The problem is you don’t even know who YOU are.

        The essence of femininity is hero-worship. Psychologically you are the antithesis of a hero.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 2:40 pm CH reader

        You should definitely taper off. I think the relationship could continue to be a little bit one sided on a limited or one-off basis, however. But you have been going way overboard.

        Why don’t you change the practice and explain to her that, while you love her (or whatever verb or adjective truly captures your esteem for her), you are concerned expressing your feelings so exuberantly in a material way might not be healthy for the relationship at this point. So end the practice, but continue little one offs here and there: you treat her to dinner from time to time, surprise her with flowers ever so often.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 2:46 pm CH reader

        P.S. In your explanation, don’t explicitly mention materiality. You could vaguely refer to “my exuberance” or “so exuberantly.”

        Alternatively, you could just taper first and then if she seems to notice the change, reassure her that your feelings toward her haven’t changed and refer to concerns about whether it was healthy for the relations for you to have expressed yourself with such exuberance.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 3:12 pm Glengarry

        Sounds like she’s making roughly as much as you. If so, showering her with gifts won’t impress.

        I’ll recommend you to go to Rollo Tomasi, perhaps this will help: http://therationalmale.com/2011/12/27/women-in-love/

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 5:06 pm Mistral

        “But if you can afford it, what is your worry?”
        ==================================
        B/C he doesn’t want to wind up being her bitch, which is the path that he’s on–well on, unhappily.

        I have a successful career and live in nice digs, b/c I like nice digs. I make clear to the ladies in my life that they can go where I go, stay where I say, eat at the restaurants I eat at so long as they are “with me”. “With me” implies (and I make plain) on my terms. I live in my world, they’re visiting on a visa that’s revocable the moment they stop being cool.

        Our boy Michael has some ground to make up….

        À bientôt,

        Mistral

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:38 pm elmer

      She’s probably getting a mouth and ass full of D’Antoine during periods of radio silence.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:45 pm Canadian Friend

      Diamonds before you slept together?

      Odds are very – VERY – high she is using you.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 6:42 pm Moses

        You have spoiled this one beyond all redemption with the diamonds before fucking her. What were you thinking, man? Hell, I’m married and my wife didn’t get a diamond (and I could afford an enormous one).

        The only way forward is to next her and do the next one properly. No expensive dates, no gifts, tell her you’re a nurse or lab tech not a doc. Take her to a dive bar and bowling. This will screen the worst gold-diggers. That is, if you’re looking for a wife or LTR.

        There is a statistically significant correlation between women who must date/marry status and women who will destroy your life in court.

        Ironically, women sometimes will play harder to get if they’ve identified you as husband material. Despite years of giving it up to penniless bartenders in the boys room stall they suddenly channel their inner chaste. It can pay to play the poor rogue.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:11 pm FamilyMan

      You can easily afford it but so can she. When did she get you a sports car for your birthday or show her attraction in some nice way?

      Why do you have oneitis? I didn’t realize you’re single. Every year that passes, you get better and she gets older.

      If you want a reasonable size family she is already too old. Can you find a nice lit. major to marry or something like that? Someone who complements your technical mindset and is, well, a whole lot younger?

      I married a fellow professional in her 30’s too, but in no sense did I buy her affection. We were poor (but debt free) grad students together.

      Can you get free to date someone else too?

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:12 pm Director

      Kick her in her snatch at least once. Playfully though.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:23 pm Pluviophile

      Michael, you want to be normal….Then stop. Don’t be afraid to lose her. Sac up and be man. Period.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

      You were alpha once? NOPE. Yo were her beta bucks, you are her beta bucks and that’s who you’ll always be for her. Kick her out of your life, she’s close to hit The Wall anyway. Get a younger woman, less educated, less dominant, inferior to you in all possible regards, and don’t repeat your mistakes. Read this whole blog and them some more from those on the sidebar. Now go and sin no more.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:49 pm Zodak

        yup, this is the way to go. best advice so far.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 3:37 pm Zombie Shane

      Obviously she wears the pants in the relationship.

      But is she evil or is she just an ultra-fastidious obsessive-compulsive “Type A” bitch?

      Easiest way to learn this is to start talking Roe -v- Wade with her.

      If she’s pro-life, then put buns in her oven [her DNA will endow the children with their masculine qualities, and your DNA the feminine qualities].

      If she’s pro-murder, then Next!

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 4:37 pm Zombie Shane

        > “But is she evil or is she just an ultra-fastidious obsessive-compulsive “Type A” bitch?”

        In case any of the younger dudes at the Chateau haven’t dated them yet, that’s a pretty typical personality for the kind of chick who has the gonads necessary to make it through four years of med school, three to five years of residency, a fellowship, and the rest of her life carrying a 24×7 pager on her hip.

        Not for the faint of heart.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:20 am Coyy

        “her DNA will endow the children with their masculine qualities, and your DNA the feminine qualities”
        Loling hard here

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:20 am FamilyMan

        She’s intelligent, and so kids with her will tend to be intelligent.

        But she’s also practically over the hill. What kids with her? Will kids emerge? All this “sex on her terms” stuff, what does that mean? Is she hiding infertility from you (bad), or is she fertile and wants to be ultra careful about getting pregnant (good)?

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 5:41 am gunslingergregi

      Great sex but on her terms when she wants it. ””””””””””

      lol you are the woman shes the man gj

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:38 am Zombie Shane

        There is a gut-wrenching scene in the original “Father of the Bride”, where Steve Martin and George Newbern are sitting at a bar, shooting the shit, and the voiceover of Steve Martin’s thoughts interrupts the conversation, and you hear him in his head realizing that his daughter [the bride] is he [Steve Martin] himself whereas the beta schlub loser [George Newbern] is the personification of his wife [Diana Keaton].

        And then finally the whole bride-bridegroom relationship starts making sense to him.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:39 am Zombie Shane

        I couldn’t find the scene on Jewtube, but here’s a chick who’s written up a description of the bar where the scene was filmed:

        http://www.iamnotastalker.com/2009/12/10/the-father-of-the-bride-bar/

        And here’s the dialogue at IMDB:

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101862/quotes?item=qt0550214

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 8:50 am BuenaVista

      Right. “Diamonds before sex.” I don’t think so.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:51 am CarpeOro

      There is no reason to think that she likes you from your details. She likes YOUR money being spent on her. Bring skittles next time and offer to share. If she is disappointed, move on. She is into your money, not you. She has money of her own? So what? So far it doesn’t sound like she is doing any of the lavishing so far, so she falls in the same category as a waitress as far as your concerned. Difference is a waitress may actually be more appreciative.

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  14. on April 27, 2014 at 1:39 pm MosesTransports

    It’s amusing to see what my life would’ve been if I weren’t alpha. Yes, it’s a rather cruel observation, yet looking down from the top of the food chain at all the manginas that refuse to exit their ignorant state of blind stupidity, denying the smallest ray of purpose their petty, ant-like life cycle might have, wishing they wouldn’t know better, when they actually do…it’s quite the sight, I can assure you.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:43 pm CH reader

      “refuse to exit their ignorant state of blind stupidity,”

      What are they blind to? (Please be specific.)

      “denying the smallest ray of purpose their petty, ant-like life cycle might have,”

      What is their purpose then?

      “wishing they wouldn’t know better, when they actually do.”

      What is it that they wish they didn’t know?

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 4:06 pm NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

        My purpose is to please myself, the most important being in the universe as far as I’m concerned. Fuck my genes, fuck other’s genes I’m not in the business of propagating them. I’m here to have fun. This is my philosophy..and I’m not even alpha.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:23 am FamilyMan

        I think it’s real simple.

        All those dirty impulses you have are the real you that women want to see. Let them out, and maybe you’ll get a little shit now and then, but you’ll be well liked by women, you’ll be an alpha.

        If not, you’ll seem fake to women, plastic, a beta, a provider.

        Unlearn a lot of self control.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:31 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Unlearn a lot of self control.”

        Doesn’t it suck?

        That you have to become a complete cad to bed women nowadays?

        That shit like elegance and refinement and sophistication and grace have to get thrown right out the damned window?

        Fuck the modern world.

        And fuck the memory of that little cad faggot Willoughby.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 9:35 am MosesTransports

        1. The greedy paw of modern society holds its clutch tireless. Most follow the herd, without question, thinking it’s the right thing to do, being conditioned to not look behind the false curtains. The stupidity lies in accepting their place.
        2. Fucking and conquering.
        3. Porn.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:45 pm Jackye

      “…all the manginas that refuse to exit their ignorant state of blind stupidity…” I used to think this way as well, but then you realize these words apply to everyone who engages in this life game. It’s a futile swim, and yet we’re all swimming away like it means something, thinking “we’re winning” when we’re pounding that pussy. The reality is we’re just slaves to our biology, like a salmon.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 2:19 pm Director

        Cheer up asshole. It may never happen. 🙂

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 2:20 pm Canadian Friend

        I’m more a tuna than a salmon,

        my meat is white…

        hehe…

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 4:05 pm Jackye

        Canadian Friend: Feel free to pick whichever fish you want, it’s just that salmon illustrate the addiction so perfectly, leaping into the brick walls of dams: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4J_cF7l3Bw

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

        Salmons don’t ponder if they’re slaves or have a free will. We do, so it means we have one.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 5:48 pm Jackye

        NGGC – The free will debate is over at this point: It’s clear we can all do what we want, but it’s also clear we don’t get to choose what it is that we want (that part is determined by our genetics and upbrining). You’re a slave, like me and everyone else, just processing the information that’s given to you and reacting accordingly.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 3:36 am gunslingergregi

        lifes a game win it

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:52 am Jackye

        “lifes a [zero-sum] game [you can’t] win it”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:06 am gunslingergregi

        I have won in every way I have wanted to on my terms based on criteria I come up with of course you can win at life

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:53 am Jackye

        Life is a deprivation game: create the need, then try to satisfy it. You’re in the negative at birth and constantly working toward zero to satisfy your wants and desires (which are determined for you, btw): Your mind tells you you want to fuck that pussy, and then you fuck it, getting to zero. You haven’t won anything. It’s zero-sum.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:32 pm gunslingergregi

        can you win at cards?
        seems like you are changing the definition of win to say it is no longer a word or means anything
        well of course if win is no longer in the English language then it will be hard to in and have it have meaning but if it still is a word then yea ya can win
        he he he

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:35 pm gunslingergregi

        or lets say can two people come up with a bet on something and one of them wins the bet whatever criteria they set for that bet
        now make your own bets with yourself
        you can win a shitload of times in life

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 7:53 pm Jackye

        The majority of our language is very outdated. Words like “random” and “win” and “love” mean nothing knowing what science has brought forth. The human race has a bad track record for getting things right the first time around, and words are just one example of that.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 9:42 am MosesTransports

        Salmon don’t got a large cock and a level of confidence that rivals Vlad Putin’s.

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  15. on April 27, 2014 at 1:39 pm Dragases

    So after 2 weeks of complete silence, my previous Oneitis calls me out of the blue and asks how am I doing. She kept harping on the fact that I was so nice to her compared to the “other douchebags” she’s dated previously and she regrets not appreciating me as she should have at the time.

    I nod politely and then she asks what I’m doing tonight. I told her that I’m having my new girlfriend come over to watch Game of Thrones. I could hear her heart sink as she feigns being happy for me and all that.

    The best way to beat female hypergamy is becoming a hypergamous male.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 1:46 pm Zombie Shane

      Missed a chance to say, “Wanna come over and make it a threesome?”

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:41 pm Dragases

        Heh. Well current girlfriend is a Church-going conservative. It’s actually a bit refreshing not to be dating a slut. She’s not a complete prude, however. I’m still getting some.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:16 pm Zombie Shane

        > “a Church-going conservative”

        BUNS. IN. OVEN.

        Now.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:54 pm Jackye

      It’s ironic that you’d post this after the was in the original post:

      “Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

      In other words, you’re not winning. You’re getting played just like she is.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 11:31 pm Tilikum

        yup.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:43 pm Dragases

        I feel much better off without her overall. The only positive part of our courtship was in the first week, and then a barrage of shit tests came raining down on me that were impossible to pass.

        So I cut her off, while it was extremely painful to do so.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 11:40 pm Subway Masturbator

        Man, you”re always whining and shit, and acting superior. “We’re just like salmon.”

        Well, big deal. Salmon tastes good. Salmon are great. Why are you insisting everyone’s so dumb? You don’t sound too happy being so smart.

        It’s like that Brit saying “Too clever by half.”

        Too smart to accept what’s there, but not smart enough to figure out something better.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 4:24 am Coyy

      Lol Maybe you could have said. I’m going to XXX with friends , met her there and fucked her . Just Maybe. ;). And then disappeared.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:45 pm Dragases

        Maybe I can extract a no-strings attached fuck session out of her. But I’m actually dating 2 women right now (current girlfriend whom I am fond of) and an FWB for when the former is not available.

        Adding in a third might cause confusion.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:27 am FamilyMan

      If you want, as long as the new gf thing is going well, you could call her back. Basically to invite her into the competition for you. What do others think of this? I think it’s OK as long as (1) you can overcome the oneitis for the new gf to do it, and (2) you can be really tough about it, don’t declare your love for her, let her know it’s not exclusive at this point but there were some feelings there and you just want to see what everyone feels now.

      Like you’re giving her another chance. If she turns down her chance, fine. If she accepts it, it is what it is. A competition. Watch her be obsessed over her competition.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:37 pm Dragases

        Reflecting upon my previous Oneitis from a detached perspective, it seemed to me that it was one long continuous shit test. I only passed the one shit test: I let her go, stopped calling and never begged for her to come back as most AFCs would when it comes to an HB9.

        I remember one meorable neg I planted on her: after a fuck session, I slyly commented something to the effect that: “You’re quite the skilled sexual athlete aren’t you?” and she seemed to be taken aback as if I was insulting her.

        Yeah, she fucked like those women you see in sex porn videos. She did allude to a shady past of sorts, so it wouldn’t surprise me if she did internet porn.

        I don’t think it’s worth the effort to court her if I’ll be thrown off my game constantly. My current girlfriend, while not as technically hot (HB7.5) is far more giving in terms of attention and affection. And her shit tests are really soft lob balls that are quite easy to pass.

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  16. on April 27, 2014 at 2:10 pm Burton

    The day that men wake up to this reality is the day civilization collapses into its origin goo. Which is why it will never happen. Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.

    I see too many men with stars in their eyes even as they are approaching Social Security age fluttering around females, dumping their wealth on them and hoping in return they will be allowed some access to their bodily orifices. In return they get…nothing. Does not stop these men from dissipating their wealth. And from going ape (bonobo?) when some guy offers them the Red Pill.

    It’s a wasteland, but one which those who have taken that Red Pill can navigate.

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  17. on April 27, 2014 at 2:25 pm Opus

    No such thing as free sex.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 2:50 pm burke

      least costly is with the youngest most attractive girls, though.

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      • on May 5, 2014 at 1:07 pm go

        “least costly is with the youngest most attractive girls, though.”

        are you talking about girls for short term FB and FWB situations only or do you think this is true for LTRs with young girls as well? if so, what makes them the least costly in your opinion? are you speaking primarily about financial investment? thanks!

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 5:01 pm Anonymous

      Maybe, but if you’re smart you can get some pretty big discounts. I’ve been screwing someone off and on for the past few months, my only expenditure being extra-safe rubbers and the occasional six pack or bottle of wine, of which I drink at least half. Of course the cost for her future POF matches may be significantly higher.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 5:46 pm slickwilly

        Burke-“least costly is with the youngest most attractive girls, though.”

        Anonymous-“Maybe, but if you’re smart you can get some pretty big discounts.”

        If you’re doing it right, with the right girl, you aren’t paying anything compared to what you’re gaining. And I’m sorry but, those young attractive girls cost more than they’re worth as far as I’m concerned. I find most of them immature, demanding and entitled. Fine for a pump and dump but that’s not my thing anymore.

        If you’re a young man in your twenties with nothing, those young girls know they aren’t getting anything from you so it’s easy, their expectations are low. But if you’re man that’s a little older with something to offer, they want it all, the dinners, the booze, the house, jewelry, all of it. The young pretty ones are the greediest of them all. They are still in acquisition mode searching for a chump.

        I’ll take a girl that’s a little older any day. In my experience, they are much more loyal and mature and less focuses on material things. You might have to give more in some ways, more beta reassurance behaviors, less alpha aloofness, etc. but it’s worth it to me. That’s more my style anyway. I’m naturally a beta provider type so that works better for me.

        And a girl whose a little more mature is more likely to want to cook for you. She’ll actually offer. AND she knows how. Major plus there. She doesn’t expect you to do all the initiating and planning, the driving, paying for everything, etc. If you’re doing it right, she offers to do it all and you pay very little if anything.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 6:31 pm Libertardian

        “Of course the cost for her future POF matches may be significantly higher.”

        Chumps pay for their own screwing. Betas pay for their own lack of screwing.

        As another poster observed above, women on dating sites exhibit an inverse relationship between youth and beauty, and lists of gripes and demands, that would make Alfred Marshall blow his brains out.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:33 am FamilyMan

        slickwilly, I am sure the young girls are trying to game thru this, but can you run tantalization game on them? Hold all the good stuff out of reach? Sure they can “have” your house, they can visit it on their way into its bedroom. They can “have” thoughts of the big engagement ring they can get from you. But don’t actually give them any real jewelry, explain how wealthy people keep the real stuff at home and wear costume jewelry in public.

        The hope of that stuff will generate more wetness than once it’s already acquired from you.

        But of course, if the girl is like that, you just use her for fucking. She truly would be dangerous if she got title to your stuff.

        I wonder if 25 isn’t the optimal age. Then if she falls in love, 5 -8 years later after the kids come and she falls out of love, she’s over 30 and passing the wall, so your risk is somewhat reduced.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm L8Br8ker

      “No such thing as free sex”

      Unless you’re whorefinder

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  18. on April 27, 2014 at 2:52 pm Jackye

    “Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.”

    I was never able to fully accept the idea of an alpha male in the purest sense, because it becomes apparent, after years spent wandering around on this planet, that we’re all slaves, our actions dictated by that damn DNA molecule. Animals surely don’t know this, as most humans don’t either, but there are a select few who come to this understanding and stop wanking off to the futility. These alphas, if there is such a thing, can be men or women, and they’re the ones who give up on the race before their physical beings expire.

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  19. on April 27, 2014 at 3:01 pm corvinus

    Yeah. The hot college chick servers I game just love it that I’m a stingy tipper (but fair; I give 15-20%), as it provides ample opportunity for them to tease and have fun with me. Meanwhile, suckers who give 50% tips get a nice pat on the head.

    Once in a while, if they’re really nice and prompt I’ll surprise them by upping the tip to 25% and they’re really appreciative. Then I’ll go back to 15%.

    Being a cheapass FTW.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 3:55 pm anonymous does not forgive

      >stingy tipper
      >15-20%

      i tip 0 unless it’s a place I frequent regularly enough to be recognised. If given excellent service (above and beyond the normal thats expected) I do throw in a tip though.

      If a chick is hot she has to work extra hard to get a tip from me, because hot chicks live such a privileged life in general.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 8:10 pm corvinus

        Yeah… where I live, servers are paid half the minimum wage because they’re expected to make up the remainder in tips — here in the USA, it has become basically an extra tax.

        I do tip zero if they do something to piss me off, such as one time recently on a trip when she screwed up and got me something that was more expensive, and I didn’t realize until the bill came and I had already consumed it.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm Ras Al Ghul

      15-20% was generous just 20 years ago. 10% was typical.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:10 am gunslingergregi

        yea 50 percent then woman are definetly making more than men for fucking sure

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 9:41 am FamilyMan

        They’re always trying bullshit arguments to increase it. They were doing this 20 years ago, and 30 years ago, saying that because of inflation under Jimmy Carter (rofl) their percentage should go up.

        Are we supposed to excuse the dumbness of that argument because waitresses are not expected to understand any math?

        Anyway I still tip 15% for good service. IF I go into a restaurant where one tips. Mainly I avoid them because it costs a mint to get out of one of those places, once you add in the tip.

        Think of it this way. For the 15%, I would rather get my own food from the kitchen and pour my own drinks or whatever, unless it’s some sort of a celebration. And my time has got to be worth more than a waitress’. Therefore 10% is overpaying.

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  20. on April 27, 2014 at 3:02 pm Comment Of The Week: A Woman’s Love Is Free To Those Who Know The Price | Reaction Times

    […] By CH […]

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  21. on April 27, 2014 at 3:23 pm Will

    A little off topic, but I wanted to hear from some guys who have more experience with girls and a wider variety of them:

    Girls that are very close with their mothers and make it seem like they’re best friends or something. I know some girls like this and I find it weird. Usually with very overly protective moms…

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 3:28 pm Zombie Shane

      What about the father?

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 3:31 pm Will

        Father is the ‘I don’t care’ parent. Pretty much way older than the mom too and somewhat checked out but still there married and supportive. Ha that’s the best way I can describe it

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 11:03 pm Tilikum

        quit. you are over your head.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 3:50 pm Jackye

      Just a stage I think – all part of the societal game of trying to higher one’s value (“look at me – I’m such a great person because mom and me are besties!”). I bet that same girl was pretty bitchy in her teen years to her mom.

      Everything done is done with pretense, and so you can’t really put much on it. Yes, I’m saying don’t put much on anything because it’s all passing and you’ll soon be dust in the void.

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      • on April 30, 2014 at 11:58 pm Subway Masturbator

        Dust dust dust, sure you’re factually correct but why choose to focus on that? Are you gravely ill or something?

        I think I’d rather listen to the wing nuts than you, at least they think there’s a solution like some crazy shit such as going back to the sheepfucker standard.

        I heard sheep are the best animals to have sex with. Do you think I should try it?

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 11:03 pm Tilikum

      google “electra complex”

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 12:18 am Will

        @tilikum, the “electra complex” seems to be geered towards the development of girls 3-6….does it apply to girls later in life too???

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      • on April 29, 2014 at 1:15 am Tilikum

        do women cease being competitive?

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  22. on April 27, 2014 at 3:48 pm OralC

    BTW have ye heaqrd thios shit about the owner of the LA CLippers being “rayciss” and a tape being leaked by a BITCH whom he was accusing of stealing 1.8illion buck$?? Bitches!!

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  23. on April 27, 2014 at 5:06 pm Ian

    Nah, I’ll post here.

    There’s literally no reason for a man to strongly prefer the company of a high-earning doctor in her 30’s to other available women. It’s undiagnosed paraphelia. But, since that’s what floats your boat, I recommend that you sail away in it and enjoy the trip – embrace your alternative lifestyle fully.

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  24. on April 27, 2014 at 5:09 pm Scott

    I don’t understand how men aren’t torching the streets and storming college campuses. How can they can be okay with this setup?

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 5:33 pm Ras Al Ghul

      “Because they’re different.” They’ve been told repeatedly that they will be a good father and they are proud of being dupes. They don’t think they’re like “all those other guys”

      Pride goeth before a fall

      Most men think the men that got divorced/betrayed deserved it, even though when it happens to them, they can’t believe it because they’re different.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:12 am gunslingergregi

        yea their bitch is always diferent than those other bitches
        like my bitches really are but not everyone elses

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 11:13 am Grim

        “Most men think the men that got divorced/betrayed deserved it, even though when it happens to them, they can’t believe it because they’re different.”

        This. As a no-fault divorced man, I get told this daily–or whenever I mention my divorce. You tough guys will call me beta.

        There are two types of commenters here. One is the type of man who thinks about “macro” big picture societal issues. For example, the MSM’s 30-year attack on men, women, children and the family and the very institutions of marriage and even long term monogomous relationships for any physically attractive people younger than 30 is real. The women believe it.

        To be completely blunt and literal: a man who is a loving father who provides a home and food and who has never been violent and who has never cheated, if he wants to stay married, should have that right. Period. A woman should not be able to divorce the father of her children because the man is too boring (in her frivolous thinks-money-grows-on-trees eyes). But that is literally what is happening across the United States every day, which is messing up our civilization. And prior to the divorce, inside the marriage, a lot of the unhappiness is, in part, caused by the women being encouraged at every turn to be ballbusting materialistic bitches who don’t respect their husband and are nasty to the children and then the woman is unhaaaaappy when the man, for example, tries to impose some discipline and common sense into the home life. It’s just true.

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  25. on April 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm Grim

    Left’s stupidity is increasing exponentially

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/27/4084113/with-rising-waters-in-south-beach.html

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  26. on April 27, 2014 at 5:51 pm David

    Scott, what do you mean? Okay with the feminized society setup? Or what. I’m peronally pissed off right now because Im 22 and learning all of this. My mind is splitting. I am the youngest of 3 brothers. The oldest brother mairried his high school sweetheart who has since turned into the biggest bitch and has emasculated my oldest brother.What once was sweet is now dusty and old, they have a baby now. I used to look up to him so much when I was little but now.. I dont envy him. The second oldest brother has been happily married (or so he thinks) for half a decade. His wife will be bearing his first child in May. He seems happy working his sales Job which is constantly demanding more of him. And turning his house into a nursery. Shes okay though, not that I know what goes on in private, but she is smart and making more money than him becoming a pediatrition.
    The third oldest is gay. Nuff said.
    Then theirs me. I was reckless, did drugs and fucked girls in highschool, got into fights and did everything. I am a beta-male forsure but I had the oportunity to be a best friend to a Straight Alpha-male badass in highschool that knocked the pussy out of me. So he would throw parties invite all the girls, and I fought and won a few fistfights. Nothing like getting your shit rocked in a red-blooded duel. I don’t believe any of my other brothers have ever been in a real fight. Now I’m 22, I love to learn. I eat healthy, lift heavy weights, and and I am going to school for culinary, which I know can be a highly femeninized profession. All my classmates are female.
    So thats me, I don’t know what I want anymore. To be honest I want nothing. A cutie pie has consistently ripped my heart out and tugged me along for years. I’m finally rid of her. She’s a whore that doesn’t see it, blinded. She is my berometer girl, everything is measured against her. My eyes were shut and blind when I was in love with her/fucking her. So I have no highschool sweetheart. I have a clean slate. I didn’t find wife material in highschool like my other brothers. I just have an urge to be the best man that I can be. Up until today that has been my goal and my plan. To be the best guy, to deserve the hghest quality woman that my value would allow. But I see now that its just not that simple. That I don’t know what to aim for anymore. I used to pity my brother for being gay, now I’m starting to think that he’s lucky in some weird sense.

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  27. on April 27, 2014 at 5:54 pm David

    hello

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  28. on April 27, 2014 at 6:39 pm Pasbo

    pabo ya~
    You’re stupid. Like many men you’re so stupid you don’t even realise you’re stupid. Well done for the breathtaking heights of your stupidity.
    That’s why you’ll just get used by women who just want to fuck you, for your good genes or whatever. They don’t care about you, fundamentally as a human being because you don’t appear to give a shit about her either. That’s what makes you stupid.
    Yeah, that’s why you try to fuck so many women, because you’re stupid. That’s why you fucked her, isn’t it, you stupid idiot. Paboo~ meh-long
    Well done. Here is your stupid badge. – enjoy much??
    – Btw, I’m 15 YEARS old so I am prime fucking material for you and the other guys on this site. I am also from South Korea. You p[robably think that means it’s OK to exploit me, because I don’t speak ur language so I must be less than human, like other womenz. Enjoy ur lifes x~

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 2:14 am Glengarry

      Well, you almost speak us language.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:57 am Zombie Shane

        > “Btw, I’m 15 YEARS old so I am prime fucking material for you and the other guys on this site.”

        Is this that bisexual boy who kept polluting the other threads?

        Because, if not, then it says to me that Axelrod picked up the phone and ordered Eric Holder to send the FBI agents over here to run an “underaged 15-year-old Korean geisha girl” child porn sting operation in order to shut down the Chateau.

        Thith ith THUPER THEREAL.

        Exthelthior!

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  29. on April 27, 2014 at 6:41 pm Pasbo

    -xXx Death to pabos

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  30. on April 27, 2014 at 6:50 pm Pasbo

    -Oh, I’m sorry; I guess I should have said raped. Bexause that’s all you guys talk about all the time, isn’t it, rape rape rape.
    You’re so classy.

    This is why you’ll never live up to Korean menz because Chinesez are just superior to you in every way, in looks, appearance and images.
    Haha. Enjoy your lame-‘ass’ American life,
    Love, Me.. 🙂
    xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 4:14 am gunslingergregi

      not Korean chick but yea anyway
      they would prob be writing perfect English
      fucking trolls

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 7:40 am corvinus

      This is why you’ll never live up to Korean menz because Chinesez are just superior to you in every way, in looks, appearance and images.

      ….. what

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  31. on April 27, 2014 at 6:57 pm David

    Fuck yu, korean wanker. your balls havent even dropped yet. Oh wait, they never will because your korean. Your balls are the size of raisins. have fun never being higher than 5, 5′.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 7:04 pm Pasbo

      🙂 Guys with higher quality sperm have smaller balls, so you’ve just proven me right. Korean guyz are better than yu actually, I am a girl BTW though lol I guess you wudn’t be able to tell
      x *Kiss Good luck with ur life.
      -x
      Love, me

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:06 pm Pasbo

        I’m sorry that height is the best thing you could think to get back at me with. Well done, elementary school humour./ Best wishes to you, American I diot
        -xX

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:22 pm Pasbo

        *Ee-ddiot that should be

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  32. on April 27, 2014 at 6:58 pm Jackye

    “A woman’s love is free to those who know the price” – this is true, and yet why would one pay for this:

    “So deeply does self-doubt work in us that, to remedy it, we have invented love, a tacit agreement between two unhappy parties to overestimate each other, to praise each other shamelessly.” – Emil Cioran

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 7:19 pm Pasbo

      Ha, she iz smarter than u guys, because she’s female. She thought of the bester answewr to the question.
      I could have said that too, but I don’t think you classless bitches are worth it.
      Love from me. Pasbos-x Enjoy ur lifexo))

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:20 pm Pasbo

        Peeps

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:57 pm Jackye

        All life is futile. There is nothing to enjoy about it, unfortunately, unless it’s delusion the person is after.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:13 am FamilyMan

      He’s describing codependency. I’ve been there. So sorry for him he never got better than that.

      There is a love between a man and a woman that can last a while, at least until the kids are born.

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  33. on April 27, 2014 at 7:02 pm Pasbo

    I guess no one here has the guts to challenge me, as usual. Once more, the game is won by me, Hahahaa xx
    –
    x

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 2:19 am Glengarry

      Hi Pasbo, I’m a scout for Jezebel. I think you should get in contact with us. Go to the jobs link at the bottom of jezebel.com.

      Kind regards, Manatee~~ so cute ^+^ Marcotte

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 9:06 am Knowbody

      Femme logic…nobody cares to challenge or play your game, you’re the victor.

      Same thing as the slut maxim “No man can handle me”….no, it’s just that nobody wants to or cares ya whore.

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  34. on April 27, 2014 at 7:26 pm David

    Hey guys, I have to post on here to get something off my chest. I’m a 22 yr old swm, 6’1. live in Merica. I tried posting something long but it did not work, so I will try and distill it down. My 2 older brothers are chained to their highschool sweethearts and now each have a baby, the wife of the oldest is a bitch and never happy. She has emasculated my brother and I can see it in his eyes. My second olders bro has married well, very lucky too because she has been his only girlfriend ever, and shes not that much of a bitch. She makes more than him, and their baby has turned their haouse into a nursery. Third oldest is gay, never had a girlfriend and will never, scrawny & wimpy. But smart. Then there is me. Now I am athletic, good looking, I lift heavy weights and I eat damn well. I am constantly improving, and all about a clean lifestyle. I have done my fair share of sowing wild oats in highschol and got myself into a 2 year LTR when I was 16, that bitch almost killed me. I hung out with stoners and drug people; I myself personally have always been a beta-male. But in hghschool I was befriended by a true alpha. He didn’t give a shit, he was liberating. He backed me up and threw parties and got drunk together. I fought and drew blood in highschool too. My other brothers have never been in a true fight, where you actually get hurt and get your shit rocked. This girl though is what I want to tell you about. She was my first and only true love. I see that now, we had sex more times than I could count and went beta- bitch on her when I was younger. We have since kept up correspondence through the years and now she is 20, and I am 22. She has no real father figure, and she tried to find it with the men that she is with. mom is a messed up whore. And she is working a shitty job at Remax and blowing guys that are 15 years her senior. The problem is that I care about her, I will always love her. But I see how futile trying to help her would be. She doesnt know herself, or understand WHY she wants what she wants. She doesnt think for herself, and would be an easy lay for anyone with half decent game which saddens me . I have just since cut the tie with her since I moved to Colorado for school. But a few weeks ago we started txting again and she was sending me dirty pics. I invited her to come down to my apartment for a weekend of “fun” sometime this spring. But I fucked myself. My heart got in the way of my mind and my dick. I told her not to come, on the grounds that It would be pointlessly futile, after a weekend of talking and hanging out and great sex. I would only want her to stay, and be my girlfriend. So, I flushed it. I could have had exactly what I wanted, and no strings. But my past with this girl and how deep she has gotten inside me over the years killed it. If I had her here though I would show her exactly who I am now. I would fuck her better than any other lover, and I would share with her all I know about how these guys shes attracted too. Only want to fuck her becuse she is easy non-demanding pussy, and she just wants an Alpha cock to control her for true happiness. So they get reward for not too much financial input, and she gets the Alpha satisfaction of having that void filled for a period of time. Let me know your thoughts.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 3:08 pm Knowbody

      Beta mindset already. Let it go. Do you have a thing for bein a cuckold. How can you even think for a second this girl is worthy of your quality commitment given your knowledge of the number of Ds she’s had in and around her face

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    • on April 29, 2014 at 9:45 am Amy

      I know you think she’s special, but she isn’t. She really isn’t. You will never save her and you’ll ruin yourself in the process. You have great things ahead of you, concentrate on the present and future. Meet new girls and forget about her.

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  35. on April 27, 2014 at 7:38 pm Jordan Belfort

    “We are smart enough to not buy into the oldest myth running: love. A fiction created by people to keep them from jumping out of windows.” – Gordon Gekko.

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 7:57 pm Pasbo

      You are stupid.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:58 pm Pasbo

        Stupid.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 7:59 pm Pasbo

        Ahaha~

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 9:58 pm Jackye

      Yep Jordan:

      “A woman’s love is free to those who know the price” – this is true, as stated in the OP’s title, and yet why would one pay for this:

      “So deeply does self-doubt work in us that, to remedy it, we have invented love, a tacit agreement between two unhappy parties to overestimate each other, to praise each other shamelessly.” – Emil Cioran

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  36. on April 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm Pasbo

    “Meh-rong~ who can ever defeat me?? No 1. No man can; no woman either. I am my own ME hahaha”
    That’s what you all think isn’t it. But you’re stupid. Aha HA – x
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 7:57 pm Pasbo

      *Snail

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 8:00 pm Pasbo

        Stupid.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 8:01 pm Pasbo

        Stupid snails.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:44 pm Bruce Dickenson

        Hey kid i like your style i really do..they sent me here to help out; improve it..

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:46 pm Bruce Dickenson

        Hey listen kid, im just like u..i put one pant leg on at a time. But when my pants are on…i make gold records (and great posts)..

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:54 pm Bruce Dickenson

        Ill be honest about your last posts..stupid, and stupid snails..they sounded great…but i coulda used a bit more t&a..and cowbell

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 9:58 pm Bruce Dickenson

        Really explore the blog space this time…IM MEAN REALLY…i like what im hearing..dont hold back..youre gonna want those t&a pics and cowbells on here..im telling ya.

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      • on April 27, 2014 at 10:03 pm Bruce Dickenson

        Guess what?? I GOT A FUCKIN FEVER..AND THE ONLY PRESCRIPTION… IS MORE T&A… AND MORE COWBELL

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  37. on April 27, 2014 at 8:02 pm Pasbo

    In conclusion.

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  38. on April 27, 2014 at 9:17 pm Will

    Shouldn’t it be easy to convert a fuck buddy (super high smv) into an LTR…..Why am I having such a hard time doing this

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  39. on April 27, 2014 at 10:02 pm Matt

    The day that men wake up to this reality is the day civilization collapses into its origin goo. Which is why it will never happen. Men have their own hardwiring which acts to blind them to the machinery clanking away underneath the mating dance gloss so that their true masters — their genes — can propagate.

    Ah, but it will happen. It is true that men are hardwired, of course. But it wasn’t a half-century ago that recognition of reality was the norm, and our present unreality is only temporarily sustainable.

    Eventually it’ll all come apart, and the legacy of hundreds of generations of genetic K-selection will reassert itself on men.

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    • on April 29, 2014 at 6:47 am Mark

      Most people today don’t know that the current state of things is a historical aberration. We built up a massive amount of wealth over the last few centuries but doing that required a certain frame of mind and certain social arrangements. Women had to balance their desire for the sexiest male with their desire for economic security through the institution of monogamy. Women have freedom now but it’s an illusory and temporary freedom. It depends on a welfare state that depends on men who work and pay taxes. It depends on an advanced technological society operated by men who value education. It doesn’t depend on guys who work out at the gym and learn good pickup lines but that’s the kind of guys women will get because that’s who they reward with sex. They’ll end by getting their sexy guys but nothing else.

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  40. on April 27, 2014 at 10:19 pm Will

    Like how is a girl down to be a fuck buddy for longer than 8 months. b/c I give her squirting orgasms (proven via wet bed sheets). And then how is it so difficult to get her to want my commitment or be always pushing for an LTR. I get people are busy. Is it from me training her not to be like that? Wtf…What the hell does it take to get a super high smv girl chasing you. I can turn her into a FB but not LTR? makes no sense.

    I honestly don’t get this world right now. Or the sexual market or whatever you want to call that

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    • on April 27, 2014 at 11:06 pm Tilikum

      quit asking for it u pussy! im done with you ya simp. (drops mic)

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:13 am Will

        I’m not even asking for it. She has asked for a relationship but it seemed to be more of a shit test to give her justification for leaving her slutty fb status from me…I think.

        I’m generally trying to hang out with her more. But she seems to have “studying” and what not going on…just not down to be spontaneous with me

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:15 am Will

        And I’m honestly extremely reluctant to get in anything serious with a very high smv young girl again. I’ve seen too much fucked up shit it’s like idk how to accept exclusivity now

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 1:28 am Tilikum

        ignore her for 5 days. next fri. nada…..resist your faggy hipster niceguy instincts.

        she shows up at your door crying, get all gunslingergregi on her.

        till then, just stop!

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:27 am gunslingergregi

        she shows up at your door crying, get all gunslingergregi on her. ”””””’

        for the fuckin win yea that will work
        that made me laugh
        still can’t believe I got those vids he he he

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 4:31 am gunslingergregi

        took 28 days though

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:02 am gunslingergregi

        my girl said is he tryin to get shot
        tellin my gregi to ignore me for 5 days lol
        if you took his advice and ignored me for 5 days he would have to die
        thought you were giving advice to me to ignore her for second there
        so you can see just how powerful it is
        he he he

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 6:02 am gunslingergregi

        like how she would blame you and not me for me fucking with her lol got to love it

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:15 am FamilyMan

        Will, make her pregnant, make her your wife. You could be the winner with a big family.

        That’s what you should do with a high smv young woman.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:38 am Tilikum

        oh family guy.

        this isn’t your era of girls bro lol.

        not one under 70 that’s worth a shit. you misunderstand how much impact the cultural messaging is having on em.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 3:29 am bob

      Blame feminism. Your only hope is to get an even higher SMV.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 6:05 am Zombie Shane

      Order her to stop taking her birth control.

      Do not ask. [Betas ask questions.]

      Order. [Alphas issue orders.]

      And if she refuses, then walk away and never again make contact with her for the rest of your life.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:38 am thrust

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/21/curing-oneitis/

      this has helped me understand. I haven’t plowed anything hotter than the ex. the pursuit for similar pussy starts today.

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  41. on April 28, 2014 at 12:31 am Troubadour

    I’m in no way trying to argue that having a house and good credit makes you more attractive to poon.

    This whole thing turned into a discussion of how I should burn the marriage to the ground, and quit letting “her” materialism ruin my life. It’s not her materialism, and never has been. She hitched her wagon to a horse that was going somewhere of its own free will.

    I see the kind of marriage you all imagine I have every day. Some fat shrew whining that she wants a Bimmer and a trip to Tahiti every year… She wants that shit, but I haven’t given it to her, and never will.

    If I lose all my material goodies and go live in a trailer park in a single man, it changes nothing with respect to my dealings with pussy. I’m not having pussy problems because of some loyalty to my wife; I’m having pussy problems because I can’t treat beautiful women like I treat this fat one.

    All this other materialistic shit is totally unrelated to that core issue. It doesn’t matter if I’m a billionaire living in my own skyscraper or some poor sleaze living in a dumpster; it doesn’t matter if I’m married or single; if I can’t treat a gorgeous woman like a filthy whore, I’ll never fuck one. Period.

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  42. on April 28, 2014 at 6:24 am Gro Haila

    Re: Jackye
    We have troll. Insipid, YKW-script posting troll.

    FOR THE LAST TIME, TROLL. ZHYDS DON”T DO NIHILISM!

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:41 am Jackye

      You say my comments are trollish, but you don’t say why, which leads me to believe you’re simply experiencing cognitive dissonance because you do like what you hear. This is typical with such discussions. Though feel free to refute what I wrote with an actual argument. All in all, you’re like a Cinderella who was just told the magical ending ain’t coming.

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 12:14 am Subway Masturbator

        THE JACKEYE SONG

        Nih Nih Nih Nih
        Dust Dust Dust Dust
        Salmon Salmon.

        I have cuntrol over my destiny
        I am an eager sheepfucker,
        I am Jackeye.
        Into the eye of the sheep pussy
        Salmon salmon salmon.

        I am the meaning of life.

        In a Taco Bell Mexican pizza, ordered without meat.

        I have my weenie but I want a gun to shoot myself
        because I don’t like dust.

        I am an angry OCD because
        nature won’t negotiate,
        and I must be all -powerful

        neenie neeni neenie
        Nih Nih Nih Nih
        neenie neeni neenie
        nah nah nah

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  43. on April 28, 2014 at 6:25 am Gro Haila

    P.S. Troll is troll quoting CIORAN?

    CIORAN!?!!??

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:44 am Jackye

      When the OP discusses the biological slavery that infects us all, Cioran is indeed relevant. But again, sounds like you’re akin to the monogamous dreamers and just start complaining when you don’t like what the facts tell us.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 12:19 pm Gro Haila

        Asculta pizda.

        Te-au futut toti arabii si negrii in cur, si cate doi odata, de umblui cracanata. Ai luat si cinci, si zece puli in gat pe noapte.

        Si acuma o faci pe marea nihilista pe net?

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 7:58 pm Jackye

        Typical – now you’ve resorted to a different form of temper tantrum. Well done.

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  44. on April 28, 2014 at 6:33 am Mark

    The thing that surprised me about women I knew was that they waited too long to make the switch from alpha male to beta provider. Women ignored me in my twenties and then started being friendly when we were in our thirties. I looked at them and saw a female with rapidly declining looks and often a couple kids around. I decided it wasn’t worth it and stayed single. The same women might have successfully snared me several years earlier. Why do so many women have such bad judgment and how did civilization survive their bad judgment for so long? Was it because they didn’t have the vote and that limited the damage they could do at the societal level?

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  45. on April 28, 2014 at 7:13 am Canadian Friend

    I need help!

    Please anybody ( Or CH ?) help me with my next move!!

    Yesterday just for fun I sent all kinds of messages to about a dozen women on a dating site, some of my messages were cool/alpha and a few were a bit Beta as I did not really care, I was just passing time and having fun amusing myself.

    I sent a message (very Beta I know) to a very hot woman thinking she would never ever reply. But within less than an hour she replied with something that I would describe as a positive reply ( you tell me )

    You must understand the exchange was in French (my first language) as where I live most people speak French only, some speak English as well but apparently not that hot woman.

    I mention this because something is always lost in translation… but here is roughly what my embarrassingly Beta message to her was and then her reply

    ME ; I’d like to speak to your best friend and buy her a drink to make her talk a bit…so she would confide in me what does a man have to do to conquer the heart of the most beautiful woman on Plenty of Fish; You! (((sigh)))

    HER ; Lolll. thank you for your very nice message…I must admit it is by far the nicest and most original I have ever received 🙂

    ( ok laugh at my utter betaness and once you are done please keep reading )

    she replied kind of fast, within less than an hour… not a bad sign.

    The fact she replied is in itself a good sign, right? ( If she wanted absolutely nothing to do with me she would have simply ignored me as most women who are very hot do on dating sites )

    the fact she says positive things and admits she really liked my message and even ends with a smiley are also very good signs, right?

    maybe I’m wrong but isn’t she letting me know – indirectly – that I have already managed to kind of “seduce” her? ( that I do not need to “ask her best friend how to conquer her heart” as I said as a joke )

    And she knows as all women do that the fact she replied opens the door for more from me.

    But what is the best thing to say to her next?

    She is hotter than the women I usually approach in person or contact on dating sites so I admit it, I am a bit intimidated, I never ever thought she would reply and even less with a positive reply and a smiley.

    I am also a bit intimidated because I am not a wealthy man, my car is 10 years old ( that gives you an idea of my situation ) and I am worried such a hot woman would be turned off – once she would find out – by my ordinary/average social status, my old car, my small house etc etc…

    It seems I stand a chance with her… but I can not think straight; if I ever manage to either date her or even bed her she will be the hottest woman ever for me

    Please help me!

    what should be my next reply?

    what do I tell her now?

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 7:35 am Troll Ride

      lzolzolozzzzzzz chill out eh?

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 7:46 am corvinus

      ME ; I’d like to speak to your best friend and buy her a drink to make her talk a bit…so she would confide in me what does a man have to do to conquer the heart of the most beautiful woman on Plenty of Fish; You! (((sigh)))

      HER ; Lolll. thank you for your very nice message…I must admit it is by far the nicest and most original I have ever received 🙂

      “Hey now, it’s not like your competition is that impressive. What are you doing on the Wal-Mart of the dating world anywayz? :-p ”

      I am also a bit intimidated because I am not a wealthy man, my car is 10 years old ( that gives you an idea of my situation ) and I am worried such a hot woman would be turned off – once she would find out – by my ordinary/average social status, my old car, my small house etc etc…

      A woman will get with a poor alpha. They do it all the time. Emphasis on alpha. Again: don’t be the beta bux.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:03 am gunslingergregi

        get loot not just for bitches but because it is the difference between life and death, fucked up or not

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:27 pm corvinus

        get loot not just for bitches but because it is the difference between life and death, fucked up or not

        Indeed, words to live by.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 8:25 am aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

      could be she latched on because the message actually was so different than the 1000 “wannna fukkkkkk” messages she gets daily

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 9:12 am Canadian Friend

        That is probably it, she could be experiencing some “fatigue” from getting too many emails from alphas being too direct or even arrogant.

        Obviously whatever I did – even if it was too beta – has worked on her, she is charmed by my different approach.

        I know I was too beta at first and should be less and less beta in the next emails but I can not suddenly switch to full on alpha, then I would simply be another one of those thousand guys who assume they can fuck her and who she does not think are as nice or as original as I am.

        I should tone down the betaness but what do I tell her?

        She does not say that much in her profile ( compared to other women ),

        – she is a nurse, works part time ( any clever reply I can come up with her being a nurse…such as ” then I know you will take good care of me” or is that way too beta? )

        – claims to be a treehugger ( yet she does not look like one, she is kind of elegant even classy in all of her 4 recent photos, she is not a frumpy granola hippy at all… )

        – she likes hiking in nature, riding her bicycle and even going fishing…( I do not like fishing so forget that…hiking and cycling yes that is fine with me… )

        – she says she likes to ride – as a passenger – on snowmobiles and motorcycles ( I do not own any of that…if I did I would have invited her for a ride… )

        – she says she is looking for a long term relationship ( probably tired of alphas wanting one night stands; she is a pretty faced slender blue eyed blonde with big breasts, she must be bombarded with offers )

        – she has a cat ( conversation starter?…I have no problem with cats, don’t hate them, not allergic…)

        – her sign is Cancer ( I don’t believe in astrology but most women do…conversation starter? clever comment about our being compatible or made for each other? )

        – she says she is an optimist and always positive ( great but how do I use that??)

        – she says she wants a man who will manage to seduce her with his intelligence and charisma ( I think I am half way there…but what is my next move???arghhh! )

        Is there anything in there I can use in my next reply?

        how soon do I reply?

        do I thank her back for saying she liked my message?

        As I said above I really don’t think I can switch to an alpha attitude not so soon anyway, I think that would “scare her away”

        Please keep the suggestions coming, keep bouncing ideas, I really appreciate it and if CH could jump in I would be very grateful

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 8:29 pm corvinus

        – claims to be a treehugger ( yet she does not look like one, she is kind of elegant even classy in all of her 4 recent photos, she is not a frumpy granola hippy at all… )

        Tease her about being a dirty hippy, for starters.

        – she has a cat ( conversation starter?…I have no problem with cats, don’t hate them, not allergic…)

        My particularly alpha brother always joked about cooking a girl’s cat and making it into food. Chicks dig cruelty.

        But, as always, with a smile and in good fun.

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 5:49 pm aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

        “…getting too many emails from alphas being too direct or even arrogant.”

        doubtful. yes too direct and yes too arrogant, but not alphas.

        i would put lots of money on there’s very few alphas that use dating sites. the only dating site should be your day to day walk

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 5:53 pm aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

        actually just read your post canadian friend. you think about shit like this too much.

        my younger brother hits these sites up and literally – i’ve seen him – copy and paste the same message to 50 or more girls a day. and he doesn’t even give a shit if he sends it to the same girl twice. they just say back “hey you sent me this a while ago you fucking prick” or something on those lines and he just fucking laughs at them

        if you’re gonna use online dating, play the numbers game, don’t put any thought into anything other than maybe the copy pasted message you send, and just spray that shit everywhere you’re bound to hit a few

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 8:28 am She Always Pays

      “I am also a bit intimidated because I am not a wealthy man, my car is 10 years old ( that gives you an idea of my situation ) and I am worried such a hot woman would be turned off – once she would find out – by my ordinary/average social status, my old car, my small house etc etc…”

      ^Textbook example of frame constructed by a team of dried up cunts at a NYC ad agency. A stiff breeze will knock it over.

      None of the things that make her pussy drip are for sale. They cannot be bought. They are only available to her on loan from alpha men.

      Once she gets a whiff of alpha she will suck your cock in the back of your fifteen-year-old shitbox in the Lululemon parking lot in broad daylight. Then she’ll buy you dinner.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 11:07 am Tilikum

        amen brother.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 9:15 am Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

      Challenge her to a game of dungeons and dragons. Then, when she gets super horny (and what girl wouldn’t?) – stick it in her pooper and yell “Level up!”.

      Natural 20 rape.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 9:48 am FamilyMan

      If it comes to that, let her think she is less hot than the women you usually date with some negs.

      I guess, just tell her where you’ll meet her. You can start out the negging by telling her to bring her best friend too.

      No guarantees here but I would try something like that.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 10:09 am FamilyMan

        And do it quickly. You have thought enough, do something that gives the impression you have a good stiff dick. You don’t have to tell you have other places to put it, she’ll be afraid of that automatically unless you screw up and disqualify yourself.

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  46. on April 28, 2014 at 7:46 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    Meh, wordpress is too broken to bother commenting. :/

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  47. on April 28, 2014 at 8:13 am betterthantheoriginalwally

    One important thing to remember is that women are NEVER, EVER happy for long. Men with the ability for introspection can look at their own lives and say, well fuck, I’m pretty happy. All things considered, life is ok.

    Not women however. They want one thing, complain until they get it, an hour or two of happiness, realise that it didn’t make them happy and want the next thing. The vicious cycle spins like the wheel of the hamster.

    Will my girl be happy when I get her that engagement ring. No. When she gets the dream wedding? No. When she has a child? No. When I buy that million dollar McMan$ion? No. When I take her on that first-class trip to Europe? No. Never.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 2:26 pm Gro Haila

      That YOUR hapiness isn’t HER highest goal it is YOUR fault.

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:44 pm gunslingergregi

        yea you should tell her often that she was born for you to make you happy
        or in the form of a question
        is your ultimate life goal to make me happy
        is the only reason you are on this earth to make me happy
        if the best thing you can do on this earth making me happy
        do you live to make me happy
        is every thought you have about me and how to make me happy
        would you do anything to make me happy
        do you spend every waking second thinking about how to make me happy

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      • on April 28, 2014 at 5:48 pm gunslingergregi

        its like adds playing over and over they work so does the above he he he

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  48. on April 28, 2014 at 8:18 am Grim

    Spot the 9 CH lessons here:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/26/4082922/on-the-trail-of-a-serial-killer.html

    Read carefully. Attraction to the boldness of jumping in the car. Prison worker lady marries serial killer AFTER knowing he was in prison for a brutal rape and murder — defends him til the end. Helps him get out of prison (after which he does more raping and killing).

    Serial killer has many clueless lovers in his life–and 2 wives who just can’t believe it.

    But read deeper. Notice two key characters in this story between the lines: abandoned beta husbands, who were left and their DAUGHTERS taken to live with serial killer stepdad, who abuses them.

    Wow just wow.

    Also this killer appears to have gone from attractive “alpha” sociopathy (when he jumped in the car with girls) to omega creeper status (writing unanswered love letters for 25 years to his first wife).

    But in beginning, well, read carefully. Read this with the CH goggles on and pay attention.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 8:33 pm corvinus

      There’s lots of this stuff in the archives. First, for a real howler, search (in the bar at the tippy top of this page) “Hamster of the Month” and click on the first story. Then type “chicks dig” in the search bar and read those entries.

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  49. on April 28, 2014 at 9:11 am Grim

    CH I don’t understand the liking of the rat video.

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  50. on April 28, 2014 at 9:43 am FamilyMan

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HOME_FERTILITY_TEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-04-26-14-55-28

    Male home test kit for sperm fertility. The guys bought out a patent for a biohazard detector they were working on at Sandia, and I guess that it’s about the same to detect fertile sperm as to detect biohazards.

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  51. on April 28, 2014 at 9:52 am Nathan

    How long until society reverses the decadence

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:02 am Gro Haila

      “this” very society? The bernakified bitchez and the betaschlub have to be put to sword first, if no other, the sword of time, The Merciful One provides for all.

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    • on April 28, 2014 at 10:11 am FamilyMan

      Who cares. We are born into the time we are born into, we meet the people we meet. Enjoy what’s here, worry about tomorrow when it comes. Don’t be the man to stand up for principles for the good of all, that’s bullshit.

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      • on May 1, 2014 at 12:31 am Subway Masturbator

        There is no principle to stand up for– except in people’s minds.

        Except might makes right, over and over, until the last star dies out.

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  52. on April 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm alex

    we should invent a hormonal therapy that makes women as generically horny as men to balance out the natural advantage women have in mating at least until they’re past their prime. but I guess I’m in the minority because the PUA community resents easy pussy and wants challenging pussy. I’m more for a socialdemocracy of pussy.

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  53. on April 28, 2014 at 12:35 pm Gro Haila

    One has to, again, pay respects to the glorious pronouncements of GBFM:

    you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
    and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
    stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”

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  54. on May 6, 2014 at 9:03 pm Intersexual Hierarchies – Part I |

    […] ‘date night’ after marriage, there’s a college girl swooning to bang her boyfriend living in a shithole, sheets over the windows, furniture from the dumpster, pounding shitty beer and […]

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