– Any time you’re out ordering chicken with a girl is the perfect time to use the “I’m a breast/leg/dark meat man. Whoa, that’s not what I meant!” line.
– A decent out-of-the-gate neg: Stroll up, look over girl puzzlingly, say “I don’t know if you’re worth a cheesy pick-up line.”
– Women will construe your complaining, however justified, as whining. Frame your complaints as facetious sarcasm instead.
– Watch for any hint that your woman has stopped trying to please you. If her bush is getting hairier, that’s a red flag.
– Holiday departments of stores are great pickup opportunities. “I was told Santa would be here. Have I been lied to my whole life?!”
– Flipping the sexes in classic female flirting is good game. For example: “I bet you say that to all the guys.”
– With women, ‘no’ doesn’t always mean no. However, ‘maybe later’ means no.
– If you’re dropping a girl off at her home and the prospect of sex is fading, ask “Can I use your bathroom?” Get your foot in her door. At least then you have a chance to convert.
– When you meet a girl for a date, look her body up and down. A girl who feels self-conscious will strive for your approval.
– Even if you don’t disagree with a girl, it’s a good habit to say ‘no’ to her on a regular basis. No means yes later.
– If a girl starts going on about how many guys give her attention, a quippy neg is “That must’ve taken a lot of work.”
– Keep the gift-giving to a bare minimum during the first year dating. Set a girl’s expectations low and she’ll always be surprised.
– I like to tell girls I had a weird dream about leaving them without a trace, and ask them, “What does it mean?” Small doses of dread bring big returns in love.
– Make fun of girlstride. You: “Been practicing your grand entrance?” *hand on hip, imitating her attention whore tromp*
– Fidgeting betrays attraction. Maintain your composure. If she fidgets, touch her arm and ask if she’s nervous around you.
– When you make a concession to a girl, exaggerate your sacrifice. A girl likes to feel she’s breaking an intransigent jerk.
– When a girl flexes her crudity muscles as a shit test to get a reaction, make a face of disgust and say “Eww”. Solid neg.
– Whenever you’re at a sticking point with a girl, recall a natural you know. Try to imagine his reaction, and do likewise.
– Guilt inducement can be a game tactic. If a girl acts poorly, say “Hey don’t dump your issues on me. We just met.”
– Take a girl home. Pour a drink. She says, “No thank you”, reply “No, this is for me.” Smile. Huge lubricating neg.
– State control is winking at a girl on the bus, receiving a snarl from her, and then pointing at your other eye and winking with that.
– You’ll know your game is tight when girls ask after sex if they were the best you’ve ever had, rather than the other way around.
– “Watching two lesbians make out. Disconcertingly, one has a man’s face and a ScarJo body. I’m torn. Do I feel horny or burning shame?” <– Say this kind of stuff to cute girls. Chicks dig men who leave impressions.
– How to reframe a blowjob: Tell your girl if she gives you a knobber you’ll reward her with longer sex.
– If a girl accuses you of a vice or character flaw, often best reply is to agree. Her nature is to reconsider her judgment.
– After you’ve agreed with her indictment of your character, tell her, “I want to be a better person, but it’s tough.” Chick crack.
– A false step is easily reclaimed with a simple “I meant to do that”.
– Terse charm > loquacious charm > charmlessness.
– Never apologize for the impudence of your package. Men should be slapping the world with their junk.
– Walk and stand as if there was an invisible wire attached to your dick pulling you forward from that focal point.
– Avoid formal dates. Passe, value lowering, & they lengthen time-to-sex. Stick to “I’ll be at [X}, meet me there” formulation.
– The most powerfully intoxicating word a man can say to a woman is “No”.

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Pro tip: Nobody cares if you’re first to post. Speed in posting does not offset the obvious lack of intellectual content.
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> “- When you make a concession to a girl, exaggerate your sacrifice. A girl likes to feel she’s breaking an intransigent jerk.”
A really awesome all-purpose line is, “Jesus Christ, you’re high maintenance!”
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> “- Women will construe your complaining, however justified, as whining. Frame your complaints as facetious sarcasm instead.”
Or, if you’re a sarcastic little ass, “Gosh, you’re not high maintenance. No, not at all, not in the least little bit.”
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ch..you wanna slow down …..when ya thinkya know it all ….all of a sudden you dont
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This is the story of life in general. However, ch has a tale to tell, you little faggot-mama boy. Why don’t you outline your problem and discuss this like a man? Why the scared little boy approach? Just askin…
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this site contains weird girls in tinder, quite funny…
http://chickentinders.com/weird-tinder-nuggets.html
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Something that ain’t a first:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/sugar-daddy-website-links-struggling-students-with-older-partners-1.2625194
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[…] Your Daily Game, Condensed […]
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Live field report. Need help, please. Texting with 22yo HB10 (yes, she’s a 10, if one can exist–if you think 10s don’t exist, then she’s *easily* a 9). I have pre-established high value because of a work thing. She’s known me for 5 years but I never paid any attention to her (she kind of flirts around the office) because (a) 5 years ago when I met her, she was 17 and (b) I had a GF and I didn’t want to do anything that could get me in trouble at work. Now she’s 22 and I’m single.
She got my # last Thursday and only reason I didn’t get her # is my phone was dead. This was after a work after hours event. No joke. Anyway…
First thing this morning:
Her (7:52 AM): Hey [my name]!! Good morning!!! How was your weekend?
Me (8:30 AM): great thanks. Who’s this? (I really didn’t know for sure…she was not in my phone)
Her (8:32 AM): I’m sure if your knew you wouldn’t text me lol I think I just added you on facebook lol I’m a loser like that
(she has low self esteem even though she’s an HB10 … no daddy/crazy single mom issues)
Me: (8:50 AM): Don’t be so sure. I don’t facebook anymore.
Her (8:50 AM [instantly]): Lol it’s jolly [her name].. I hope you have a great week 🙂
Me (8:55AM): [her name]. you do seem jolly ;-P
Her: (9:20): Life’s to (sic) short to not be jolly lol
Me (9:40): Yep!!!!!! : ) : ) : ) : )
…more chatter…. she’s in school today taking test
Her (12:53 PM): I’m down for drinks. Want to meet up today? (last thursday she said she wanted to do something this thursday)
Me: after 9 maybe
Her: After 9? 😦
Me: I need gym. When?
Her: No gym !!! (40 minutes ago)
…….. My text game sucks. What next? I think I should do dark and pick up the phone and call her later, like after I go to the gym.
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Invite her to watch you through the window at the gym.
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‘Me: after 9 maybe’
Um. You’re the man. Set a time. None of this vague ‘maybe’ stuff. Do you want to put your dick in her vag or what?
Think of a time and set it.
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I liked a couple of your replies. And although I feel like you do not come off needy overall (especially important to land a 9/10 because they’re so used to that in men) I feel like your “Yep!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 :)” risked shuttling you into the friendzone orbit, it didn’t seem to here. Just be aware of how responses like that come off to girls (especially hot ones)…
Rule of thumb: Unless you’re just being a total sarcastic asshole (in a good way), DO NOT EVER EVER use emoticons.
Your text game does not “suck” as you mention in your last sentence. As with anything in life, practice makes perfect. As long as you stick to the small handful of general rules (all listed in one post or another on this blog) You pretty much can’t go wrong.. Especially with a girl who is clearly currently in chaser mode. Right where you want her.
I stick to a few:
1) NO emoticons (ever)
2) delayed responses
3) total disregard for punctuation
4) always fun. always flirty.
Even in serious conversations with girls (They’re having a bad day at work, flat tire on the freeway, pet hermit crab died) never ever ever get caught being sucked into their negative moods or convos, ALWAYS be looking for the fun way out. Chicks love love love a man that can put the emotional brakes on their shitty moods and make them smile. Texting is a perfect place to play and practice this.
Good luck with your 10.
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Guys like Christian (on point, timely, honest) help make CH best in class.
Drinks were her idea. You already put the gym out there. Don’t bend. You can get drinks next time, when it’s your call.
Maybe point out how you’d bet your life that she has lazy squat form and you might be willing to train her in exchange for a price to be determined later.
Don’t forget how you never paid any attention to her. That’s the guy she knows.
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thanks. ya I cannot get through my thick skull that sarcastic ridiculous things like multiple emoticons and “!!!!!!!!” does not come through on text as it would in real life, which it really was.
in real life I was saying “yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” like in a super exaggerated way, making fun of her.
what 22 year old HB10 describes herself as “jolly”? Isn’t that a word from the 1920s? she’s definitely a weird bird.
I have a tendency to “fake” “super excited” and YaReally has pointed out to me that girls don’t get it and they see it as beta excitement, not me making fun of them.
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thanks. update, because time passed before this comment got posted. but I held frame (unlike in the past) and said nothing.
continuing:
Her (2nd straight text, 33 minutes after her last text): What time do you get off work?
Me: whenever I want usually
Me: U?
Her: Well I’m at [some bar] having a glass of wine here .. Should I come over by the office? (this is 4 PM lol)
Her: Me what?
Me: u know what? i hate texting. i will call you around 6 to see what’s up?
Her: Okay perfect
Me: cool. enjoy yer wine
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“3) total disregard for punctuation” Me thinking and revisiting…ughh
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Grim. RE: Your update.
I don’t like that series of your responses at all. When she asks what time you get off work (which in my mind she should know if she’s known you for 5 years and works in your office) but either way “Whenever I want usually” is not a good response at all. The actual time (5, 6, whatever) I think is fine here. Don’t allow yourself to get caught up forcing the sarcastic or funny or alpha frame, its far too transparent.
I’m beginning to think you’re one handsome looking motherfucker if a 10 is still chasing you around after these exchanges. But either way, that’s not why I decided to respond. I also don’t like the “U?” text. U, UR, yer, etc I believe come off to girls the same sort of way emoticons do. I have never texted “lol” because I feel the same way about it. Notice she didn’t even pick up on the “U?” text anyway; less is more. You’re a fucking MAN god dammit. You have command of the English language (although admittedly I never text capital letters and rarely use punctuation) spell your words out. Just try and refrain in general from using all the cutesy friendly feeling text bullshit.
That being said, you then follow up a few texts later with your “u know what? i hate texting. i will call you around 6 to see what’s up?” I don’t like this response at all either. Remember girls respond differently to everything than we do, including words. That response from you almost sounded defensive, and it shouldn’t have. Be aware of your words and the feelings/emotions they inspire in a girls fluttering tummy. “hate” is a terrible word to text, in general.. Especially in the tone you used it in. I have sometimes texted a girl im banging, randomly during her day “i hate your face”, which always gets a good response. Always be fun, always be flirty, always be in control of the interaction.
I don’t know if this is any help at all to you, but to me, your frame is sort of all over the place. You go from “YEP!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 :)” to deadpan, to passive, to almost an angry sort of tone in your texts… You know what chicks “hate”? Inconsistent transparent vibes from guys. And that’s what I get from your interaction. That being said, she’s DTF.
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lol WOW JUST SET A TIME AT X PLACE AND MEET HER THERE AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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“1) NO emoticons (ever)”
You know how I know you’re an autist?
You can use emoticons just fine you robot. Just use them timely and not like a grinning, pleasing chimp.
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people who are new to the game need these rules to guide them away from bad habits. until he’s learned when it’s ok to drop emoticons, it’s best if he follows the rule to avoid them altogether.
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hes allright getting the shit out on here is better than with the chick
I know I was freaking the fuck out talking to my old 10 from high school and it helped calm me down a bit posting on here
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> “I have a tendency to “fake” “super excited” and YaReally has pointed out to me that girls don’t get it and they see it as beta excitement, not me making fun of them.”
So much of Game is adjusting your repartee and your delivery to match the particular circumstances of the situation at hand, and especially the IQ and the sophistication of the girl who is your particular target at the moment.
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That’s why, for instance, Michael’s situation on the previous thread is so radically different than the typical situation.
He’s trying to Game a chick who has been through four years of medical school, three to five years of a residency and a fellowship, has passed her specialty boards, and who carries a 24×7 pager on her hip as an Attending Physician.
She’s probably got an IQ of 130+, is probably a “Type A” Bitch, and might just as easily be gamed in French [or even Latin?] as in English.
The principles will be the same [Me Ugh, You Jane], but the specifics of the delivery will be WILDY divergent.
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I only use emoticons to convey emotion that otherwise wouldn’t be obvious such as when I’m being facetious/sarcastic. On the other hand, I like mind fucking people by talking like I’m serious when I’m being facetious. I find that misunderstanding in text messages are too bothersome to make clear, while in person is fun.
“With women, ‘no’ doesn’t always mean no. However, ‘maybe later’ means no.”
That had me cracking up because of how true it is.
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zombie shane – you’re starting to become a shittier commenter than me.
thanks Ya, im trying this out tonight.
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She wants to fuck you tonight.
Isolate, build some Comfort, then escalate.
“Should I come by the office?” = a chance for isolation, even if she has friends at the bar she’s willing to isolate herself to come get you
“Ya come get me at 6. Don’t show up wasted and barf on me.” = her ideally showing up not too drunk to game. Then you just laser-eyes the shit out of her and take her for a tour of the office or whatever and just build a little comfort and pull her in for a kiss and fuck her in the office. (Make no move toward actually going to the bar like don’t be like “ok lemme just get my things and we can go”. Just assume she doesn’t want to go back to the bar and let her bring it up and then stall it as long as possible and try to derail it…going from isolation back into a group setting is going backwards)
Ideally you shouldn’t leave your office without having at least kissed her to set the tone that you two are hooking up later even if you have to go hang out for drinks for a bit first. You’re setting a “we’re not just drinking buddies, if you’re alone with me I will fuck you” frame.
Alternatively you could just txt her after the gym and tell her to come over but that could be too much compliance and trigger ASD so I like this opportunity she’s giving you to come isolate herself with you.
She wants to bone tho. You have a lot of value to her because you turned her down for the gym and made her tell you who she was etc lol you’re basically being difficult which she loves because she’s not used to guys being difficult. That’s why you could go to the gym and probably still bang her eventually but i would order them like this
Best to worst situs for getting the lay tonight:
1) she comes to your office alone to get you (this is ideal, isolation plus she’s chasing you, you could either bang at your office or build a solid lead for sex after you guys have a drink at her bar)
2) she stays put and you go to the gym and go to where she’s at after (less ideal, you’ll walk into a group situ BUT you’ll at least do it on your terms/timeline and make gym a priority over her which makes you high value like you don’t cave to her shit. So here you would just run standard game. Ignore her and joke with her friends then escalate with her isolate and makeout and lead it to a bang)
3) you go to the gym and txt her to come over after (this is isolation which is good but this one runs a high risk of triggering ASD/flaking because it’s huge compliance so it’s low on the list)
4) you skip the gym AND go to where she’s at. This is orbiter chode shit. DO NOT DO THIS. It’s exactly what she expects guys to do because she’s hot. Even total radio silence is better the this. You would be walking into the bar in a low value frame by default to her.
And if you say come pick me up and she flakes on that, which she might because she’ll expect you to be like “where are you?? I’ll come there” and chase her, instead you just go to the gym and radio silence her the rest of the night as punishment (unless she txts demanding to come over in which case you make a fuss about it like “no you’re probably wasted and I’m not babysitting your drunk ass” and “dunno. I gotta work in the morning” like it’s an inconvenience to allow her to come over until you let her finally come over then you just kiss her at the door and bang lol)
Good luck. Let us know what happens
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Btw, YaReally, I have made it a habit to break eye contact and stare pensively into the distance when talking to girls I’m hitting on. Obviously showcases aloofness, (not done deliberately anymore) but it seems strong eye contact is better in conveying intent. What do you say?
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@ho
Strong eye-contact. Fuck that aloof shit, show your intent thru your eyes. You can sexually escalate just through your eye-contact and the way you speak, you don’t even need to kino or have much verbal game.
I’m currently in the middle of unwiring the “look away and show aloofness” habits I built up from old community shit that was great advice for some people who can’t read social cues and don’t realize they’re staring too much and weirding people out, but once you aren’t socially retarded the more eye-contact the better ESPECIALLY when you’re building Comfort/Rapport and transitioning into Seduction.
If you do look away, do it on points where she’s done something that you disapprove of. And with smokin hot girls you COULD start out with aloof eyes until they do something that “wins you over” and then you reward them with intense laser-eyes, but personally I prefer lasering from the word hello. It usually takes them 10-30 seconds to kind of realize you’re lasering and then something “clicks” and they fall into heavy attraction.
I’m planning to write a big post about it down the road when I’ve got all the nuances down into something easily explainable/teachable and consistently applicable but it’ll be a few more months probably. it’s heavily based off the stuff these guys are teaching/demonstrating below though, I’m just looking deeper into some of the nuances they don’t cover because I think it’s fascinating. A buddy and I are both experimenting with it and comparing notes. Start by watching this stuff though:
28:00 into this clip:
1:30 into this clip:
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I haven’t even watched the video, but just seeing the look on this little psychopath’s face – if I were the father, and if I saw him Gaming my little girl like that, then I’d pick up a barstool and crack his God-damned skull in half.
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@Zombie
“I’d pick up a barstool and crack his God-damned skull in half.”
of COURSE you would…lol
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ya what kind of clubs yu go to must be tame to not think fights happen cause last three times I went to club knockout knockout and last time 20 people in parking lot going at it
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This is my signature move. Since girls have to pick me up (shout-out to my fellow car-less brother Ya) I make it a habit that on a first ‘date’ I walk down the driveway and circle over to the driver’s side door. With a serious expression I signal that I want her to get out of the car, which they always do, typically concerned that something’s wrong. I then look them up and down studiously until making the ‘not bad’ face. If they’re over 25 I force them to turn around as well. When we get in the car the girl will be bright red and hyper conscious of her body and I’ll be in the proper state of mind.
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I have a car, but I usually had girls drive me around. What I do is tell them that I’d like to drink alcohol in order to be easier to bed for her or if she’s not the kind of girl I’d tell that I justify her driving by not wanting to DUI unless X(made up story depending on the girl and context).
If she says she’d like to drink too, tease her about being a drunk. If you end up not drinking and she brings it up, tell her that you didn’t want to feel like a slut by getting tipsy and putting out on the first night.
Something I found out quite early is that it’s better to spew out ridiculous shit than romantic things to girls you just met.
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My girl noticed another girl (non-lesbian as far as I know) giving her the slow full-body visual examination. The other girl isn’t out of shape or ugly but I’m attributing it to competition, though hey, ya never know, maybe I could swing a 3some out of it.
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CH women are not allowed to have their feelings hurt
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/living/2014/04/25/kelly-wallace-dove-orig-cfb.cnn.html
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always drive with the windows down and the ac on in the summer-dhv.
when callin someone never let the phone ring more than 2-3 times. your time is precious
take off vibration + sound from your phone. best way to ensure late replies
be seen with 2 cellphones.
keep money in plain sight with rubber band and note eg “Tuesday”
thanks for everything CH ❤
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“always drive with the windows down and the ac on in the summer-dhv.”
Why is that a DHV?
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Because it’s the most comfortable way to drive, it’s the least conscious of money/mileage, and it’s unusual but not weird.
Just think of the opposite, keeping the windows rolled up with no air on. It feels frugal and schizo and like the person isn’t used to passengers.
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I drive with the heat on and windows partially down because the heated air is too dry, but I didn’t notice an increase in comfort when I use the AC and lower the window compared to have the window up and the AC on. It might be because I’m not one of the people who have a problem with air conditioned air.
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It’s more like when you’re driving around in the summer and the fresh air feels good, but it’s too hot, so you blast the AC to counteract the hot air. Basically, it simulates late spring.
I’m just explaining it, by the way. I’m a windows-down no AC guy.
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The pretence of alphanessitude sure is hard work.
Think I’ll stick to earning money and gymming
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…or simply watch the vids YaReally posted.
as a fellow gym rat, i hear you.
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I’d like to add one more entry to this list.
Always be prepared and ready to walk away.
This rule supersedes all others.
If you don’t internalize it and follow it, the rest of game can’t help you.
If you do follow it, the rest of game gets way easier and more productive.
It doesn’t come easy to me. My natural default behavior is a hybrid of alpha and beta and I have to check myself regularly to avoid this mindset.
But…when I’m flowing in my “ready to walk away” state, girls are an easy problem to solve.
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The big problem is after you’ve made babies with them, and you can’t just turn and run like a coward, no matter how much you’d like to.
That’s when all your mad Alpha skillz need to go into hyperdrive, in the face of the relentless cultural tidal wave of nihilistic poison [courtesy of You Know Whom] in which your family is intended to drown.
Married dudes with children: Stand tall. Stand firm. Rock of Gibraltar. DO NOT BREAK FRAME. The center must hold.
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ANY dudes with kids, this applies.
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This seems a non sequitur.
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“When you meet a girl for a date, look her body up and down. A girl who feels self-conscious will strive for your approval.”
She’s walking toward you. Say, “Stop!” Make a motion with your finger for her to twirl. When she gets half way around say, “Stop!” Wait a beat. She will try to complete the turn. Say, “Wait, I’m not done.” Eye-hump her ass for another long beat, then say, “Okay.” She’ll ask how she looks. Do not compliment. Say something like, “Jury’s still out.”
“Take a girl home. Pour a drink. She says, “No thank you”, reply “No, this is for me.” Smile. Huge lubricating neg.”
Add to the neg with something like, “You wouldn’t understand Islay malt. All those diet cokes destroyed your palate.”
“Avoid formal dates. Passe, value lowering, & they lengthen time-to-sex. Stick to “I’ll be at [X}, meet me there” formulation.”
CH sermon. Formal dates existed pre-fem revolution to give her a social pass to spread. Yougogirl relieves her of the stigma and you of the obligation. Your world is far more interesting than hers. She wants in and she’s willing to pay with her holes.
“The most powerfully intoxicating word a man can say to a woman is “No”.”
Conversation is her world. She wastes hours everday spewing her pointless words to anyone who’ll listen. Do not engage her in this way. “No” is the perfect device to avoid this trap. “No” followed by reframe alpha statement. Maintain control of everything; the conversation, the activities and the sexual tension. She wants to be swept away.
HB’s get their asses kissed all day… a steady noxious stream of “you’re so pretty/you’re so smart/you’re so amazing” beta bullshit. Treat her like your annoying little sister and keep it wet with unshakable frame, insightful unique negs, upredictable moves and relentless push/pull sexual tension.
“Walk and stand as if there was an invisible wire attached to your dick pulling you forward from that focal point.”
Best lay I ever had said, “First thing I noticed was your walk. You walked with your dick, like it was on a mission.” Straight from the hamster’s mouth.
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Dudes stand and walk like they’re pulling out. I stand and sit like I’m recieving head.
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Any good links to examples of this? I’m envisioning walking with your pelvis thrust out which doesn’t sound right.
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don’t take it too literally. all it means is to feel your energy emanating from your crotch, and to walk with a little swagger. the idea is that by thinking of yourself leading with your dick, your body will naturally conform to a sexier posture.
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You guys act like ni66ers
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> “unshakable frame”
This is so fundamentally important.
Whichever line of attack you choose for the particular situation at hand – whichever particular Frame you finally settle upon – HOLD STEADY IN IT.
Do not hestitate. Never show self-doubt.
Hesitation = Self-Doubt = Beta = Friend Zone.
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Fake it to you make it.
No matter how much your self-doubt is wrenching away at your gut, KEEP UP THE FAKERY.
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Say youve been fucking a girl for a while now and the last two times you’ve hit her up she says she can’t hang b/c of studying, which can actually be a legit excuse, and this last time you just took her studying excuse and called her a lame-oh blah blah and grades are a joke etc and then just bye and hungup–kinda projected a sense of butthurtness almost. How do you tell if you should back off her or if it’s a legit and honest excuse. And how do you redeem yourself in fucking up looking butt hurt.
Thinking of sending a text:
Wanted to see you the other night. “Maybe next time we’re hanging out you can join in” as in me and friends hanging out.
She made it seem like she was suuuuuper busy all week and just maybe could do something Wednesday maybe.
Basically do I push away and back off and wait for her to initiate or do I send the redeem text b/c my invite was kinda random and spontaneous spur the moment….
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“Basically do I push away and back off and wait for her to initiate..”
yes.
Remember, if a girl wants to fuck you or spend time with you, she will figure out a way. THAT’S the bottom line. If the attraction is high enough and where it should be, a girl with a huge test in the morning deciding her entire professional future would STILL crawl over a series of barbed wire fences guarded by crocodiles with rocket launchers to be in your presence.
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In a similar situation, Will.
Hers were ‘legit’ as well.
Remember the golden ratio, and do not initiate another meet up. This is what I’m doing.
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Does the golden ratio apply to planning dates and meet ups? B/c it’s kind of like that is what the dominant partner does they plan the hang outs or whatever. But then that makes you feel like you’re the one chasing! I wish CH or someone would clarify that part.
Also, I get that a woman with enough in love and attraction should do anything to see her man. But I actually don’t think that’s realistic…even if I was dating a wayyyyy lower smv girl who had a final she realllllly needed to study for she would hold back from seeing you but probably iniate another the finals are over.
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@Will, what you should do, I think, is have her initiate contact, but meet her on your own terms. If she calls to meet, tell her a time and place.
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Will, plan things that appear to work out for you if she doesn’t show. Have her meet you where you’re already hanging out, etc.
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> “Maybe next time we’re hanging out you can join in”
God damn it, have you learned nothing in your time at The Chateau?
1) DO NOT BREAK RADIO SILENCE!!!!!
2) BETAS ASK QUESTIONS [“Maybe next time blah blah blah?”].
3) ALPHAS ISSUE ORDERS.
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Only you don’t have any orders to issue right now because you are maintaining radio silence.
If and/or when she breaks radio silence between the two of you, have some ORDERS ready to ISSUE to her.
“I will be at XXX at YYY o’clock, meet me there.”
And then be flirting with another hot babe when she shows up to meet you.
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Yes…in the several instances where I had perfectly gamed women i would initiate, but if i didn’t get any replies or got waffle or push-back of ANY kind i would disappear for a while.
I would re-initiate only if she did and then in one or two word texts until i got a meet up…
whoa…i guess i just answered my own question below!
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had something similar happen to me. it turned out she was blowing me off. If you dont believe her stop by and check up on her. But theres almost nothing you can do if shes blowing you off to bring her back, so that is why radio silence is best. It is getting close to finals week, so it very well could be a legit excuse. But that said, christian is right, if a chick is really into you she will kill all 6 of her kids and leave them in a box in the garage just to be with you. If a chick is really into you she will kill people for you and spend life in prison for you. heh. kidding aside, give her some space, go out and have fun.
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If she doesn’t contact you first, do it yourself after a couple of weeks and pretend nothing bad happened between the two of you. If she inquires about why you took so long to contact her ‘cocaine and hookers’ is an adequate reply. When my ex asked me if I have a job, I told her I work in a human resources department coordinating training programs for brothels or something about training and brothels.
Saying outright silly things might hurt your chances(I always did it, so I don’t know if it hurts), but from my experience in relationships, whenever she will ask you something that you don’t feel like talking about, you can say something silly and change the topic.
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“Basically do I push away and back off and wait for her to initiate”
Yes. This is your only option.
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“How to reframe a blowjob: Tell your girl if she gives you a knobber you’ll reward her with longer sex.”
that sounds like negotiating. no way.
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“that sounds like negotiating. no way.”
Sounds EXACTLY like negotiating. No way is right.
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‘Terse charm > loquacious charm > charmlessness’
I do have to say that I’m discovering the power of shutting the fuck up. The best I think is when a girl gives you a compliment of any kind ‘I really like you/sex with you/hanging out with you, etc.’ and you just smirk and nod. After a few moments they should incredulously be like ‘and you MAYBE like it/me too?’
Then just keep the smirk and nod ‘yeah das cool.’
Also, I’ve realized that all the old movies and adages are really true. ‘Opening up’ is bullshit. I mean, what are you supposed to ‘open up,’ about? How is any woman going to help you fix anything? Even if you’re upset about something she did….what are you supposed to do, talk to her about it? The more experience I get, the more it all makes sense. And the more you can see how masculinity is trashed all over society.
Here’s a little tiny bit of real talk from Mike Rowe tho:
http://www.lifebuzz.com/mike-rowe/
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“‘Opening up’ is bullshit. I mean, what are you supposed to ‘open up,’ about? How is any woman going to help you fix anything?”
Yep. One of the most insidious lies foisted on modern society is that being emotionally vulnerable has any value whatsoever.
Your emotions will always lead you down the wrong path. ALWAYS. That is why women are the way they are.
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Agree…I went from having the best game in the world to “let’s talk about this”…to “fuck off” and radio silence.
Shark said it best: game is counter-intuitive. The shit that you think would work: talking it out, reaching out, apologizing…doesn’t work at all.
Even now, when i ask a girl out it’s usually: “Hey, let’s meet up for drinks, Monday works.”
NOT: “Do you want to meet up for drinks?”
Too much room for questions and misinterpretation.
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“If her bush is getting hairier, that’s a red flag.”
Oh noes!!! Gotta check my panties after reading that! LOMFL
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– Any time you’re out ordering chicken with a girl is the perfect time to use the “I’m a breast/leg/dark meat man. Whoa, that’s not what I meant!” line.
I couldn’t use that line. Chickens don’t have hair.
Peter
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“I was told Santa would be here. Have I been lied to my whole life?!”
Horrible. Reminds of that old line, “Is Heaven missing an angel since you fell down here?”
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it’s not even close. are you autistic?
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Just a lot more experienced than you are.
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experienced at badly misreading a line? yes.
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Some keyboard warriorism, eh?
even a lazy-ass B-schlub (me) with minuscule field experience knows that delivery is key.
That angel line is obviously very self damaging in the wrong hands (most men, that is), but delivered in an appropriate manner should work too.
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it’s not even just about delivery. the “angel” line is direct flattery to a girl. the “santa” line is a situational observation. how anyone can mix up the intent or perception of those two is beyond my non-autistic powers to comprehend.
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@Gro, how would you deliver that line? The only way I think I could make it work is by making it obvious I’m pulling her leg and ridiculing men who hit on her using canned lines.
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I’d rather say something like, “where the hell is Santa” in a flat voice, but someone with a different personality could say the line as written.
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Reminds me of this:
Did you fall from heaven
why
Coz it looks like you landed on your face
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I think it’s hilarious. I love aggressive men who can be a little silly. Girls with no sense of humor won’t get it. But who wants that? You want a hot girl who is fun to be with.
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“Horrible. Reminds of that old line, “Is Heaven missing an angel since you fell down here?”
Solution if you must use that bilge line:
Cold approach, calmly and in a bored, slow, nearly cynical manner in a way that communicates “I’m not sure you’re worth my time” say “Heaven…missing angel..blah blah blah. Hey look, I’m heading to the bar for a Scotch, walk with me.”
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“- State control is winking at a girl on the bus, receiving a snarl from her, and then pointing at your other eye and winking with that.”
that was funny. I want to use that.
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Be careful. Here’s something I learned. If you do brash day game like “put your number in my phone” and the girl is easily receptive, um, she might just be a prostitute.
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” I like to tell girls I had a weird dream about [me] leaving them without a trace, and ask them, “What does it mean?” Small doses of dread bring big returns in love.”
Funny dread game..women are so afraid of dreams in general too..i dont know why they are, but its funny to watch them get emotional and stupid about them…like one too many would push them to the brink of insanity.
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I did this back when CH initially posted it. Sure, it “worked”, but I miscalibrated the dread/asshole vibe in my LTR so it didnt have the outcome I had in mind.
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Girls are also weird about astrology and fortune-tellers, which can work to one’s advantage.
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Aye, I’ve yet to meet a woman who wasn’t invested in some degree into believing, at least a little bit, in dreams as some kind of predictive or mystical device. That’s great for us, since you can push boundaries a bit with dreams in the telling of the “story” and make it seem like “Hey man, I’m just the messenger here, I have no idea what it means”. As the phrase on the site goes, it’s chick crack as they’ll (usually) go to lengths to explore the “dream” and try to explain it, or at a minimum will find you more interesting because of it.
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with the chick pointing out your flaws agree with her as in agree and amplify or agreeing with sincerity. i feel like this chick im seeing at the moment is pointing out more and more flaws/ nagging more and more. i want to nip it in the bud, normally ive just been ignoring it, but its starting to piss me off. ive got a few old plates waiting in line so not afraid to walk but i feel this is a sticking point with a lot of relationships that last longer than a short while. i feel like i should be calling her out on on it but my gut feeling has always been showing an emotional response/butt hurt is bad form?
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Brother this is the circle of life. Soon as you get the bitchyness, you gotta pack your bags. There is no going back to the good old times. I learned this the really, really, really hard way.
Fire up the old plates, and just start banging away. Get more aloof and distant. If she gives you an ultimatum, just say “cool, later” and leave it at that.
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@ derp,
She’s amping up the shittests because something you did chummed the waters with beta blood. Agree and amplify works when you’re in control … not so well when you’re trying to regain a measure of control you’ve lost. Pull back, go silent for while, spin your other plates. If she contacts and tries to set something up, tell her you have other plans ( and you should ) . If she presses the issue ” What happened ? ” or ” Why don’t you call me anymore? ” Just tell her that she didn’t make you feel appreciated the way you deserve, of course you have to say it in a mockigly sarcastic tone.
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thanks! will pull back a bit!
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if you get a chick back to yours or hers, ask her if she wants to chill in your room for a bit. once in, strip down to your boxers first asap (set the tone) then ask her to get naked. dont do the hour-long foreplay with her saying no..
any excuse to have sex. i tell her i have a circumsized dick so i just whip it out and ask ‘ever seen one like this before’ followed by ‘ you wanna lick it?’
this has been working for me so far
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[…] By CH […]
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I like to tell girls I had a weird dream about leaving them without a trace, and ask them, “What does it mean?” Small doses of dread bring big returns in love.””””’
good one
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Kinda disagree with the “I meant to do that”. An alpha needn’t justify his behavior. The purpose in mind should be taken for granted. You could go with a more poignant observation on the situation i.e. witty remark about your ‘clumsyness’ though.
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Awesome post. So true, so true…
You’ll know your game is tight when girls ask after sex if they were the best you’ve ever had, rather than the other way around.
Yes, this. lulz
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Why is you not regaling us with a deconstruction of the Bentley-Steviano debacle? One exploited and abused sugar-daddy and his obstreperous skank-ho who is hurtling rapidly towards the wall.
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Tokowitz, get the jew’s actual name.
It clarifies the whole drama.
Jewish slum lord enslaves tall blacks, gets gullible whites to pay for tickets to the clown show and he dates a Afrasian-Hispanic who ends up taping him for hundreds of hours.
Culturally speaking he’s been bitten on the ass by a dog that he personally injected with Rabies.
Lol.
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He should go full mail-order and get a replacement mistress.
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When in doubt, whip it out.
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What if I like a hairier bush?
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does she know that? then you, sir, are WINNING.
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ew
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My current girl shaved her pubic hair before I told her my preference is a natural bush. She hasn’t touched it since and asks me if I like it often. She told me she likes it now that she has to be careful to cross her legs in short skirts and dresses so that nobody but me gets a peek.
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Here’s a text exchange with girl I’m now gaming late 20’s…she’s one of these girls who’s up for it, but keeps pulling back, so I pull back. She keeps texting about wanting to go on an “Adventure” with me… Me: “I wonder if you can handle it, you look too innocent.”
She canceled a date due to work and suggested we reschedule, but didn’t reply when I proposed a new date.
here’s how the exchange went:
Me: Hey devil girl
Her: Hi
Me: Let’s meet up Monday
Her: you’re not coming tmr? (she’s performing a dance publicly)
Me: You’re debute? What time white swan?
Her: You are laughing at me 😦 Actually its a group performance only
Me: no solo? It’s not gonna be like that last one is it?
Her: Noooooo. There is a solo dance, one couple each but also group dance
Me: well if you buy the first round of drinks I’ll pop by. What time?
She never replied. It’s today.
Any thoughts on the exchange? Is this just flakey attention seeking 20-s girl?
Do I go to this performance?
As always your feedback is always welcome.
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The text exchange is solid. She didn’t follow for whatever reason, not your fault at this point.
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Thanks.
I got a call from a dude who wanted to confirm a business arrangement so didn’t end up going to this girl’s show… I suspect this was a trap to be a beta orbiter anyway. Also gives me something to say if she asks “Why didn’t you come?” Shit to do babe…good to know you missed me.
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I’d not go. She wants a fan, an applauding admirer, with her on the pedestal that is the performance stage or space. She could have bantered back, trading a couple of drinks for your adoring gaze while she danced. Instead, she wants you to admire her ‘performance’, and then buy the drinks: a Stage Door Romance. Sounds like a lot of work for a self-admiring woman who’s not that into you. Stage Door Charlies are, by definition, wallets in the service of her ego. If she makes some investment in you, it’s a different story, but she has refused that avenue.
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“Is this just flakey attention seeking 20-s girl?”
We’re all flakey and attention seeking. She’s not sure about you yet. No, you shouldn’t go.
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@Buena Amy Gut reaction was not to go…I later saw photos from that event with her and some orbiters gushing about her.
The “not sure about you yet” part…yes, definite IOI’s then withdrawing to see whether I come chasing. I expressed interest, then withdrew as you can see from the exchange.
The pre-game blue-pill me would have gone.
I can see the blue-pill guys who did go hoping for a crumb of attention have no idea of the chats she’s having with me telling me about her Victoria’s Secret lingiere and asking me to take her on adventures while she scopes out my FB page and some of my photos quizzing me on them.
Hypergamy in action….
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im no text master, but most of my questions end with a period or nothing at all.
the lines:
Me: You’re debute? What time white swan?
Me: no solo? It’s not gonna be like that last one is it?
Me: well if you buy the first round of drinks I’ll pop by. What time?
look better to me as:
Me: You’re debute? What time white swan
Me: no solo? It’s not gonna be like that last one is it
Me: well if you buy the first round of drinks I’ll pop by. What time
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Just wondering, deliberate typo or honest mistake?
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Typo in my original text to this girl it was ‘your debute’. I’m reviewing my text game with all girls.
It’s reasonably tight.
But many of my interactions are entirely online…including arguments and even break ups.
No one has time today to have face-to-face communications all the time, so text is vital to maintaining the channel of communication.
Text game is no longer just a supplement or “chick crack” it defines your personality.
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Despite what her Doctors say, my girlfriend is not schizophrenic. I know this because tonight I carefully studied an MRI (magnetic resonance image) of her brain.
Indeed, it shows a finely slopped fore-head and a nicely enlarged rear spatial-visual cortex.
[CH: sexy!]
She is terrified by direct eye-contact. She goes off like Roman Candle; with proper handling.
[be careful with her or you might lose a hand.]
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stare into her eyes like she’s an animal you are in a fight to the death with right as you’re beginning to make her come. coopt the fight or flight response to work in your favor to enhance her orgasms. she will thank you in more ways than you can imagine.
if you’re in a relationship, follow with a healthy dose of comfortable post-orgasmic contact to maximize your oxytocin/vasopressin-induced bonding and thus her jones for your d. this is the physical manifestation of alpha with a bit of beta thrown in: give her the fucks and then let her chill in her vibe. then fuck her again. alternate orgasms between rough domination and tender lovemaking as you see fit. if she’s confrontational or not responding go harder to break her walls down and let her bask in the ego-melting ecstasy of orgasm under and/or swathed over you and you will secure the devotion of both sides of her personality — at least while you’re with each other.
this can be dark side material, beware: may make virgins/first loves have nervous breakdowns and cause sluts to have midlife crises. we are trying to share the sluts and catch the good ones both before they break — use wisely and compassionately. your harem expectantly looks up to you to be the man they need. take care of your girls in the way only a man can and they will return the favor as only girls can.
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Is your girlfriend a human?
Sounds like my pet monkey. Including the slop on the forehead.
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Dear Sum Yung Ho,
I’ve made hotter girls than you spend their daddy’s money on me, beg me to throat fuck them, and cry hysterically and threaten to kill themselves if I left. Especially asians, with their tiny little pussies…have you had your cervix rammed by a rock hard cock until you feel pain in your chest? Didn’t think so. Once you have, you won’t go back.
Wanna know my secret? All (hot) girls are the same. If one acts like a princess, I find another that’s more thirsty for what I bring. You know your girlfriends would fuck a guy like me the second you turned your back. Girls have no loyalty, and they all get wet for a player, so you have no hand.
The guys you can “get”, are no fun for you. They are little boys. You want a big bad man. And big bad men don’t play by little girl rules.
I know you’re rubbing your clit to this post, so cum hard for your Master, my little sex toy.
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CH what’s your thought on sex toys with your gf?
Vibrating cock ring—>intense orgasms
But then her hamster will say his dick alone isn’t good enough….
I say stick with using the hamster even if the toys give intense orgasms… Thoughts
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naa my bitch tried to bring a dildo in house like with every other dude I threw it away
life aint tv or a dildo party
she tried to get a cat fuck that cat it ain’t getting attention I should be getting
this what ya do though fuck her sideways play with clit that works too
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or tell her to play with her clit while you fucking her whatevs just don’t bring on the machines
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when I go marathon though in between fucking her I take two fingers and fucking work the g spot like a madman
it works too
like picking her up fingers under front of pussy off the bed type madman but yea
he he he
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the dildo cant do that 🙂
don’t let em ful ya that a machine can do better than you
it can’t
keep that manhood
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takes about 5 seconds for her to cum first time but that’s how it gets with practice comfort level of the chick and you making sure she knows you own her
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I have a girlfriend who likes the real thing in one orifice at the same time she gets a toy in the other. This is a surgeon who knows her anatomy. Try to keep track of what is doing what, however. (Microbes and all.)
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lol
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she still playin you
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gunslingergregi
yea you should tell her often that she was born for you to make you happy
or in the form of a question
is your ultimate life goal to make me happy
is the only reason you are on this earth to make me happy
if the best thing you can do on this earth making me happy
do you live to make me happy
is every thought you have about me and how to make me happy
would you do anything to make me happy
do you spend every waking second thinking about how to make me happy
its like adds playing over and over they work so does the above he he he
posted this other thread but this might be my best comment
this shit works
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This is so true. The first date I had with my now departed HB9. We were having a nice conversation and talking about different things. And after attraction was very high and we were doing a lot of eye gazing hand holding and hand rubbing and laughing. Out of the blue I asked her “so have you figured out how to make me happy?” I knew i was taking a chance she is a hot chick but I went with it and smiled. Her reaction was priceless.
She looked surprised then looked in my eyes twinkling and just lit up like a Christmas tree. She was delighted. I was amazed. Learned something new. Take a chance and be the prize. Of course at the time I was just winging it. But it was one of the things that got her in the first place. We made out big time in the parking lot awesome kisser. Two days later bang.
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[…] Your Daily Game, Condensed | Chateau Heartiste […]
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Someone please explain <>; it is too poetic for this non-native speaker:
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check out the extreme bitchiness and materialism here:
http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2013/10/29/fashion-mistakes-women-despise-men/
bitch, think about whether any decent man would want to do anything more than ONS any bitch who would write at this level of snark
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-Once in a while, a girl is 3% privy to game techniques, and she might say something like “Oh was that a neg?”
Me: “don’t be racist”
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laolzozlzozozozoz
http://www.evgeniyandoksana.com/story/
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When a girl flexes her crudity muscles as a shit test to get a reaction, make a face of disgust and say “Eww”. Solid neg.
The use of the phrase “ewww” is ten shades of gay for a man with a modicum of manliness about him. It may sound good in the club when you’re running…gawd I hate typing these words…”gay game”, but otherwise, meh, not so much.
The principle is sound however I’d substitute my go to line when a woman starts spouting obscenities like she’s a sailor, namely a very bored, droll “Classy” while slowly scanning the room for a better place to hang out.
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– If a girl accuses you of a vice or character flaw, often best reply is to agree. Her nature is to reconsider her judgment.
– After you’ve agreed with her indictment of your character, tell her, “I want to be a better person, but it’s tough.” Chick crack.
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Lol yes it is. A little vulnerability once in a while… kryptonite.
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The one about walking like there’s an invisible wire attached to your dick, I get a lot of very lower back pain (basically in my arse), and I learned it’s because I lean back all the time and keep my head tilted up a bit. The posture I hold is what pua’s would say is good, but it’s damaged my body, and it’s a damn difficult thing to change as it’s my natural way of standing and moving.
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is Donald Sterling alpha ??
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“- Take a girl home. Pour a drink. She says, “No thank you”, reply “No, this is for me.” Smile. Huge lubricating neg.”
Damm that may have saved me a couple times when they put up LMR and I lost the lay.
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CH, you are kicking ass and taking names on the twitter feed. Thank you. Please keep it up. The left must lose.
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The real lesson from the NBA story is that getting involved with a young pretty woman can cause nothing but pain and trouble, and it often — not just sometimes — destroys careers and livelihoods. Tens of thousands of men have gone to prison and had lives ruined, careers ruined. Even Abe Lincoln and Tiger Woods were nearly ruined by their wives. This stupid little whore has ruined this guy.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/28/opinion/robbins-sterling-allegations/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
And women complain that “all men want is sex.” Women should be on their knees being thankful every day that we men are literally bound by our biological need for sex with pretty women, as that is literally the only reason we have buildings, electricity, and food and water. Not to mention all the entertainment women get.
One reason I’m MGTOW right now is I learned my lesson (no fault divorce) and I have used up my one get out of jail free card. Then the ex GF I post about here did some shit that could have put me in prison (for being a heartbroken beta).
It is literally playing with fire to get involved with a woman.
BTW update on yesterday: the girl got drunk and called me at 1:30 AM wanting to come over, but the ringer was off and I was sleeping. She, too, is trouble.
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Did you listen to the actual call? It was so fucking phony that it sounded nearly like an SNL parody. There was no interrupting, no crossed words, each spoke in complete sentences without any “uh..um…er” thing going on like in normal life and I swear it sounded like they were reading a script. Cool, unemotional, controlled on both sides (at least what I heard). Not a realistic human conversation that I’ve ever experienced.
I could give a fuck about the “controversy”, just happened to have the radio on in the car yesterday and caught it. About 20 seconds in I was wondering “Is this for real or are they reading a transcript of the call?”
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The Burninator
Did you listen to the actual call? It was so fucking phony that it sounded nearly like an SNL parody.
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Pay attention, the Burninator is on to something
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Come on, Grim. The real lesson from the NBA story is that Sterling is an idiot with the bad judgment to get involved with an obvious golddigging whore and not take measures to protect himself. What did he think would happen, they’d live happily ever after? Same with Tiger Woods. When you’re famous and rich and grabbing up every cheap club slut you see, don’t bitch and moan when they betray you, blackmail you and ridicule you in the press.
Save your sympathy for guys who didn’t see what was coming. Not these guys.
What trouble could this girl cause you? Do you work together?
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Come on, ladies. The real lesson from the rape story is that the girl is an idiot with the bad judgment to get blackout drunk at a frat party and then walk alone through a bad neighborhood at 2AM and not take measures to protect herself. What did she think would happen, her and her rapist would live happily ever after? Same with Skepchick. When you’re a new atheist and semi-cute (relative to the typical offerings available to nerds) and grabbing up every cheap compliment you can whore, don’t bitch and moan when a nerd makes an awkward move on you in an elevator.
Save your sympathy for girls who didn’t see what was coming. Not these hobags.
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She was also quite the cuckoldress it sounds like… He was quite sanguine about her getting her Mandingo on.
Some serious psychological turmoil swirling around that guys melon. Fine with his ho getting drilled by the very dudes he hates.
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“Did you listen to the actual call? It was so fucking phony that it sounded nearly like an SNL parody”
Hmm…. Which actually raises another intriguing possibility. Given that he was okay with the mistress getting Mandingo’d, what do you think the odds are that this was some fucked up role playing?
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It’s not like people didn’t know he isn’t a racist. They still took his money. This is so fucking phony.
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Pijama Wearing Ninja
@Gro, how would you deliver that line? The only way I think I could make it work is by making it obvious I’m pulling her leg and ridiculing men who hit on her using canned lines.
Or ridiculing her for having a high idea of herself. But, I don’t think making it obvious is the thing. Room for uncertainty (except that you’re your own man) should be preserved, I think..
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A couple broads have recently crowed to me about the fact they shut down a kid’s “neg.” (of course either one would be blind to me running it, or at least ignore the fact they recognized it.) Game has reached mainstream and sure MAYBE the dudes didn’t gauge their audience (neither is 8-10 territory,) but I feel like we need to head this shit off a the pass because the easy tricks when you got bored or when you’d been out with 5-6 girls that week or two are now being dismissed because they are no longer effective and it’s ONLY because the knowledge has been spread.
I don’t particularly care since I don’t “neg” I just sound like a man instead of a feminized bitch but what about our young brothers? How to address this?
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“Avoid formal dates. Passe, value lowering, & they lengthen time-to-sex. Stick to “I’ll be at [X}, meet me there” formulation.”
I don’t understand the point of this “I’ll be at [X]” thing. It seems like bullshit to me. Ask a chick to go out for drinks –> go out for drinks –> lower inhibitions –> don’t act like a dumbass, and if she finds you attractive, have sex. What’s hard about this? You game people really overcomplicate stuff sometimes.
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[…] – Any time you’re out ordering chicken with a girl is the perfect time to use the “I’m a breast/leg/dark meat man. Whoa, that’s not what I meant!” line. […]
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