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Transitioning As A Game Tactic

May 2, 2014 by CH

Responding to a post about a new game routine called the Imagination Test, commenter tteclod rightfully demurred,

Ross Jeffries has a version of this, but it still has some issues with transition. His approach is a little less awkward, but I’ve yet to read or watch video of any presentation that adequately corrected the underlying transition issues. Anchoring beforehand seems to be key, as well as physical contact and personal grounding and posture. Like so much of game, there’s a big picture and broad set of skills one must develop to avoid the creep label.

The master’s level work I’ve observed evokes remembrance of previous sexual sensations, e.g.: “Have you ever felt a drop of sweat roll down your chest?” and similar remarks. Another easy line is, “Mmm, salty,” with lip licking.

I’m of two minds about transitioning (for example, from a zippy opener to a sexual or conversational vibe). A good transition is a valuable game skill to have, because I have seen men all too often awkwardly broach topics that landed with a thud into social groups (although this happens less often one-on-one). A smooth segue would’ve helped them.

Contrarily, I have also seen “naturals” — men who have a preternatural grasp of social dynamics and how to exploit them — jump from one topic to another without any notable transition to speak of. They simply state with conviction what it is that’s on their minds, and people, especially girls, tend to jump aboard to follow their conversational threads.

As tteclod implied, a lot of what a pickup artist might call “transitioning” is really nonverbal cues that prime a girl to accept the seducer’s verbal tempo. If you have been touching her arm and leg, and slowing your vocal cadence, it won’t feel awkward to transition from asexual neutral chatter to sexualized innuendo.

Ross Jeffries is an advocate of neurolinguistic programming (NLP), which is the science (some would say pseudoscience) of embedding commands and evoking feelings in the listener that are transferred to the speaker, through the use of deceptive language tricks and anchoring. NLP, by its “out there” nature, is particularly susceptible to transitioning miscues, as the types of baiting questions that NLP involves would sound undeniably weird on the ears of a woman you just met.

But for the average man who isn’t running NLP game, transitioning from one mode of discourse, or one topic, to another isn’t difficult. If there was ever a time to be direct, transitioning is it. The answer is to PLOW. Just move from one thought bubble to the next, and if you catch grief from the girl, agree with her like it’s no big deal.

EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is listenable, but not danceable.”
GIRL: “That’s out of the blue/weird/random.”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Yeah well, that’s me.”

Think of transitioning as basically “re-opening” the girl over and over. You never stop opening a girl until she’s opened herself to you. Yes there’s a chance — a good one if you’re a socially inept nerd — that your chosen topic will be uninteresting to the girl. If that’s happening, stop, and change the subject. The key is to act like you aren’t put-off or butthurt by her lack of interest; that this is just the normal course of events taking shape. Remember, above all else, overconfidence is the heart of game. If you don’t feel awkward, she won’t.

The other technique, besides plowing, is to verbalize your transitions as if you were narrating events as they unfolded. This is the “ironically self-aware” school of seduction. For instance,

EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Well it looks like we’ve reached the point where that story is played out.”
GIRL: [whatever]
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This is the part where you’re supposed to sit awkwardly while waiting for me to think of another interesting topic.”

Actively uncool “goofball game” can work very well, but it requires a degree of state control and self-assurance that is hard to find in the wild except amongst men who already have their fill of pussy.

A third technique is the one mentioned in the Imagination Test post; you ask a leading question that serves as the springboard into a new, and hopefully more intimate, conversation.

EVE’S TEMPTATION: “You seem like the kind of girl who’s open to new experiences.”
GIRL: “Oh really!”
EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Not that kind of experience. Get your mind out of the gutter. I mean, do you want to learn something about yourself? Check this out… [run routine]”

The point of transitioning is that, as the man, you will have to accept that leading a woman to your desired destination is part of your duty as the proactive sex. Most women won’t make it easy for you, because most women secretly yearn for a man who demands from them some measure of submission.

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  1. on May 2, 2014 at 3:47 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    lzozozozozozo HEY HEATRTISTZTEE HEATETRTSTIEZ!!!

    da GBFM doesz this every time scores 3 pointz!

    EVE’S TEMPTATION: “You seem like the kind of girl who’s open to new experiences.”
    GIRL: “Oh really!”
    EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Not that kind of experience. Get your mind out of the gutter. I mean, do you want to learn something about yourself? Check this out… [cum in her face]“

    lzolzozozo

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 3:50 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is ginasexable, but not buttsexable.”
      GIRL: “That’s out of the blue/weird/random.”
      EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Yeah well, that’s my lostas cockasz.”

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 3:52 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        EVE’S TEMPTATION: “Well it looks like we’ve reached the point where that story is played out.”
        GIRL: [whatever]
        EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This is the part where you’re supposed to sit awkwardly while waiting for me to think of another interesting topic. Sit on my face that is. lzozozozlz”

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 3:57 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Have you ever felt a drop of cum roll down your cheek? lzlzozozolz

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 4:09 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        GBFM: “Have you ever felt a drop of cum roll down your cheek? lzlzozozolz”
        HER: “Yes”
        GFBM: “NOT YOUR BUTT CHEEKZ! EWWW GROCEZ! U CRAY CRAY!”

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 4:33 pm CH

        instant classic.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 4:37 pm gaoxiaen

        Strong coffee, eh?

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  2. on May 2, 2014 at 3:50 pm LiveFearless

    “narrating events as they unfolded”

    Nice. Welcome to the world of voice acting.

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  3. on May 2, 2014 at 3:55 pm l82dagame

    I just happened to be watching The Five on Fox News….guess Greg Gutfeld reads heartiste! “Do you think China and Russia are quaking in their boots over the underweight beta males running this administration?”

    Glad to see CH shivs permeating the culture!

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 5:04 pm Zombie Shane

      As flaming faggots go, Gutfeld is pretty damned awesome.

      And I would fuck the ever-loving daylights outta them MILFs on that show.

      If Roger Ailes knows one thing, it’s how to get the make-up artists to give his Anchorettes that “Porn Star” look.

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 9:19 am Steve H

      On that note, and this is a bit OT – I’m wondering if Dick Morris’ laughably wrong prediction on Fox News 11/5/12 was directly lifted from Vox Day’s WND column from 11/4/12.

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  4. on May 2, 2014 at 4:01 pm tteclod

    🙂

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  5. on May 2, 2014 at 4:03 pm Better than Freshly Pressed | A Life Un-Lived

    […] Better than Freshly Pressed […]

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  6. on May 2, 2014 at 4:13 pm Steve H

    That 3rd technique is played out, my good man. Most urban/suburban american chicks are well aware of the cliched staples of ‘the game’. that came out almost 10 years ago and chicks have had plenty of time to catch on to the ‘palm reading routines’ and all that shit.

    The 2nd technique does work with dorkier girls but that’s not for me.

    The 1st technique is the one to go with. You are amusing yourself. And the emphasis in non-tangential thread-cutting is primarily self-amusement. The girl could be any random bar patron for that period of time where said conversation needs a transition to keep from dying.

    Another technique, provided you’re detecting interest, is to let the thread die without effort. Then you just kiss her. You have to be confident to do this, but that works for me. And that’s what she wants if she’s still talking to you after a few minutes of DHVing banter.

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 4:36 pm Zombie Shane

      > “Then you just kiss her… that’s what she wants if she’s still talking to you after a few minutes of DHVing banter…”

      Is that what courtship amounts to in the 21st Century?

      A few minutes of banter and then straight to the fornication?

      God have mercy on our souls.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 5:03 pm ballocaust

        these cunts definitely arent getting fine dining and flowers if thats what you mean

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 5:05 pm ballocaust

        or: ass to mouth is the new going steady

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 5:07 pm Zombie Shane

        But good God, they’re gonna be somebodies’ mothers one day.

        Or maybe not?

        Maybe they’ll grow old and barren, all alone, in apartments filled with cats?

        Either way – from the Big Picture point of view – it’s pretty frigging tragic.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 5:56 pm Timm

        Z. Shane: you say it’s tragic, but I’ve seen you write about fertility et al. You want the cycle to repeat itself all over again. What gives?

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 6:30 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        “ass to mouth is the new going steady”

        Haha! Welcome to 2014.

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 7:11 pm Zombie Shane

        > “You want the cycle to repeat itself all over again. What gives?”

        I’m well aware that huge swaths of the greater white family tree are headed straight into extinction.

        But even though I know that it’s going to happen, and even though I know that there is almost nothing that I can do about it, I still bemoan the horrifying apocalyptic tragedy of it all.

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 5:10 am thwack

        Zombie Shane

        I’m well aware that huge swaths of the greater white family tree are headed straight into extinction.
        ——————————————————————————————–

        Why do you assume all white people are valuable?

        Lots of white people are just plain SORRY. Face it, they just suck. Maybe the system of white supremacy has made it too easy for sorry white people to survive and thats the reason the white race is going downhill?

        Just think how sorry a white person has to be in a system where everything is made easier for white people?

        If you’ve been white all your life and you still suck, you should hang yourself from your swing set in your back yard.

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  7. on May 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm Zombie Shane

    In general, this shit sounds awfully formulaic and algorithmic and “canned”.

    Doesn’t anyone ever improvise anymore?

    Remember: For every algorithm, there WILL be a counter- [or anti-] algorithm.

    And if you ever get to the point where you actually enjoy your life, then you might try kicking back and relaxing and having a fun time when you’re out with the bitches.

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  8. on May 2, 2014 at 5:01 pm ballocaust

    EVE’S TEMPTATION: “This song is listenable, but not danceable.”

    the fuck kind of game is this

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 5:09 pm CH

      that’s not the game part. come on do i have to spell everything out?

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 6:37 am Zombie Shane

        > “if you’re a socially inept nerd… leading a woman to your desired destination is part of your duty as the proactive sex. Most women won’t make it easy for you, because most women secretly yearn for a man who demands from them some measure of submission.”

        > “do i have to spell everything out?”

        Okay, I reread your original piece again, and I think I now understand who your target audience.

        And why the material is so algorithmic in nature.

        CONT.

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 6:45 am Zombie Shane

        CONT.

        And I just learned something: “inept” is essentially an alternate spelling of “inapt” [go to merriam-webster.com].

        Anyway, to the extent that all STEM majors are nerds at heart, I guess I was pretty lucky – I was never a socially inapt nerd – I was always a socially apt nerd.

        I guess a had a fairly decent ability to feed off of a chick’s emotions.

        And it seems like maybe you’re toying with the idea of creating an algorithm – maybe even a “feedback loop” which emotionally stunted nerds could utilize in order to simulate the ability to feed off of a chick’s emotions?

        CONT.

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 6:55 am Zombie Shane

        CONT.

        Where by “feed off of” her emotions, I mean the ability to sense [viscerally] when you’re getting “warm-n-fuzzy” emotions out of her, versus when you’re getting cold and DARK emotions out of her?

        And then to use the power of your serpent’s forked tongue to always change the conversation in a better [or at least not a worse] direction, so as to eventually lead her to the promised land of hot and moist rather than to the purgatory of frigid and dry?

        If so – if you’re trying to create a simulation of an emotional feedback loop which can be utilized by emotionally-stunted nerds and geeks – then that is one seriously audacious undertaking which you are pondering.

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  9. on May 2, 2014 at 5:21 pm Jordan Belfort

    In sales, many of the greats use NLP. Some of the most popular techniques are: Matching and mirroring, Pace Pace Lead, and Anchoring.

    When done right, the strongest is anchoring. Especially if you can anchor a specific smell. I did this once with the smell of drying raindrops on a park’s trail.

    She’ll never quite forget it, even if she tries to.

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 5:49 pm Tilikum

      smell is key.

      its the only sense tied directly to the Amygdala (brains emotion center) all the others reside in the thalmus.

      incidentally, sociopaths/psychopaths usually dont smell at vividly or care about what they eat OR eat crazy flavored shit. hhhmmmmm i wonder why that is lol.

      Tony Robbins is the ultimate player and he is a great place to start learning anchoring and mirroring specifically.

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 3:42 pm Zombie Shane

        > “incidentally, sociopaths/psychopaths usually dont smell at vividly or care about what they eat OR eat crazy flavored shit. hhhmmmmm i wonder why that is lol.”

        Tilikum – PLEASE EXPOUND – any personal anecdotes, or any references or citations of the psychiatric literature.

        I would be extremely interested in anything you’ve got here.

        Thanks!

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      • on May 4, 2014 at 6:52 pm 8

        Good stuff.

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    • on May 2, 2014 at 7:19 pm whorefinder

      Smell is the sense that memory has the strongest link to. Which is why, when you’re40, if a girl has the same perfume on that your sister drenched herself in as a teenager, you’ll either 1) be creeped out and run; or 2) get hard and want to bang her on the stairs.

      thwackie’s in category 2, obviously. Having banged most of his family, including his sisters Shaniqua, Rhodesia (wait for it), and Valtrex, like a good little inbred ape, he likes to keep it all the subhuman family…except when he strikes gold and gets a hipster slut (aka human being).

      Smart rape!

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      • on May 2, 2014 at 7:58 pm Director

        Rhodesia Salisbury. Truly a classic ebony name.

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  10. on May 2, 2014 at 5:45 pm Tilikum

    “Contrarily, I have also seen “naturals” — men who have a preternatural grasp of social dynamics and how to exploit them — jump from one topic to another without any notable transition to speak of. They simply state with conviction what it is that’s on their minds, and people, especially girls, tend to jump aboard to follow their conversational threads.”

    this is pretty much my default when out. like my main girl says (when im getting numbers when out with her btw), keeping my interest IS what a girl lives to do in that moment.

    im intense with eye contact and beta interest, then i get bored, glaze over and turn back in my chair to my main chick. get bored w her and turn back to the bartender or the girl i was flirting with. engage intensely, then just launch crazy shit, get bored, glaze over blah blah blah

    they go ape shit and every tryhard Scottsdale tough guy gets so pissed they cant see straight. ive seen the losers throw up their hands. the girls love that shit too and will give me even more attention just to feed the vibe.

    no fugugs either boys. i never roll or fuck w less than an 8 with a sweet disposition.

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 11:06 am Reco

      How do you do this…you are literally with your girl and you are gaming other girls in front of her?

      How do you get to this point?

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    • on May 4, 2014 at 5:54 am reco

      How do you do this…you are literally with your girl and you are gaming other girls in front of her?

      How do you get to this point?

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      • on May 4, 2014 at 8:26 am Tilikum

        oh its way worse than that, i pay for nothing either.

        a male lion in the wild exists to provide superior genetic content and protection to his 4-6 females. they hunt and do all the work.

        internalize this as your frame, never shake your frame, viola.

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  11. on May 2, 2014 at 7:15 pm whorefinder

    PA likes to transition directly to his knees when Piggy walks in the room.

    Squealer rape!

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  12. on May 2, 2014 at 7:20 pm Rum

    Hunter Stockton Thompson: One might say that he died trying to explain IT.

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  13. on May 2, 2014 at 7:20 pm Ovid

    Anybody ever heard of this guy:

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  14. on May 2, 2014 at 7:27 pm Rum

    HST was never able to manage eye contact. He carried a S&W .45 Colt pistol at all times to prevent that.
    Watch the dam archives. Selah…

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  15. on May 2, 2014 at 7:28 pm walawala

    One thing I now ask girls who are doing an activity:

    “What was your inspiration for taking up xxxx?”

    They always light up…they always have to think….then they ask me mine…It’s a great way to build up rapport on a common topic.

    IF the girl is a bit vapid then you may need to coax it out of her: “You don’t have an inspiration? Are you a zombie?”

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  16. on May 2, 2014 at 7:42 pm Transitioning As A Game Tactic | Reaction Times

    […] By CH […]

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  17. on May 2, 2014 at 7:49 pm Rum

    HST was never able to manage I contact. He was, mabe, a Neanderthal freek. Sutof like mi and mi crzy Gf.
    Wordpres moduration a fat hur..

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  18. on May 2, 2014 at 10:01 pm ashevilleupdate

    The Naturals approach is the one that the whole ball of wax of self improvement generates, it implies Authority not Consensus. When I read that I think of how bemused mastery operates as the topic shift completely takes control of the interaction. Also suspect that is where AMOG operates as they then seize the topic by offering another interaction.

    The music is listenable but not danceable is open ended, if one is going to say something like that, list the reasons why, slap beat is terrible or whatever, she has a chance to agree or disagree which leads to more interaction

    Third one is pure kamikaze, rather than doing a palm reading or whatever, you’d be better off having an answer no matter what is her answer. If yes, say you are not telling her, if no, say good, she would not want to hear it because it’s about your..pick something and run some game

    Hard to see it working in a loud Club though, maybe outside or the smoking area

    Eh, games people play

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  19. on May 2, 2014 at 10:08 pm Libertardian

    Fred Reed has been reading CH again.

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Upshot.shtml

    “In something called Upshot, apparently the love child of the New York Times, I find a piece by a negligible robot happily chronicling the failures of boys in school. This has become a ritual for feminists and pussy-whipped male Sonderkommandos. If smugness and condescension were oil, these tali-wagging unmen would be gushers, maybe a gas field.

    …

    “As the economy continues to shift away from brawn and toward brains, many men have struggled with the transition.” And “’Boys are getting the wrong message about what you need to do to be successful,’ Ms. Buchmann says. ‘Traditional gender roles are misguiding boys. In today’s economy, being tough and being strong are not what leads to success.’”

    Silly me. I thought the issue was that science is inherently racist/misogynist/homophobic and must be carefully regulated lest it let slip a hatecrimefact, or that we need another 3 trillion H-1Bs. If only all the neckbeards, dorks, and dweebs who are sitting in front of their computers, microscopes, and particle accelerators tonight realized that they are but gibbering Neanderthals futilely trying to ape their intellectual betters, the HB7s with BACs of .20 who are right now grappling with the foremost mysteries of the universe, such as which of the nearby gorillas they should screw.

    In 50 years Western civilization will look like the end of “Threads”, with the Sophoclean irony that the missiles were never even fired. Lolzlzlzlzlz.

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  20. on May 2, 2014 at 11:23 pm Harland

    Does NLP stuff work for second language speakers? I live abroad so either I usually talk to English-speaking chicks or use the local language. No matter which way I use, comprehension is less than fluent. Either her English isn’t sparkling to understand the small meanings between words, or my foreign language isn’t advanced enough to string together complex thoughts.

    This is a frustration because, though game is the same the world ’round, specific applications of it like this are maddeningly inapplicable.

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    • on May 5, 2014 at 10:22 am walawala

      @Harland…not sure where you live, but I also live in a place where English is not as perfect and many girls have weaker English.

      But it’s never a problem. The ones who don’t speak English, usually like to tease and if they’re talking to me, they’re already interested.

      If their English is passable, I use more simple words…I think “What words would they use to find this idea in a search engine?” then I use those.

      It makes things simpler because I don’t have to use long-winded concepts and one-word game is perfect.

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  21. on May 3, 2014 at 12:13 am Will

    So really quick update on that girl who I’ve been on off fucking for a really long time (she’s young high smv). After she “had an excuse” for not hanging the past two times I told her to I didn’t contact for a week. She then finally initiated contact saying something like “did you ever get that blah blah? I’m feeling some drinking games” or whatever. I give her. A short playful neg and she comes back with a shit test that almost felt back handedish. Then I agree and amplify and she playfully responds and I tell her to come over in a day.

    My point is this. I’m sure she has other guys on her radar but she’s been fucked by me so many times that I can’t tell what she’s doing. She is being rather aloof for a girl. But in the past she has asked for more relationshipness. Basically I can’t tell if I should finally (after 9 months fb) get upper hand and next her or if I should continue playing her. I would like to be in a relationship with her but it would be wayyy too unstable seeing as how she’s always partying and Approached by guys and in the worst environment.

    Lately it has felt like she’s trying to break my frame. Not treat me like an alpha but test me constantly and generally try to break it down or expose weakness. It feels like a sign for her to justify fucking another guy or starting to move one and stray.

    Thoughts…? Help?

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 9:26 am Steve H

      If she is fucking/were to fuck other guys, she’d be in the clear ethically. You two are not in a relationship.

      The strategy of ‘look you’re either with me or your not with me’ only works for women on men. There are all kinds of sociocultural reasons for this. Which leaves you with only one option: to make her want an exclusive relationship with you. And the paradox of that is – in order for her to want that, you have to be unattached to that either happening or not.

      That is the only way an exclusive relationship with this chick will ever work out without cheating etc (and even at that, no guarantees).

      You need to be seeing other women and creating abundance in your dating/sex life. Nonchalantly let her know about it but beware – do not be try-hard in that regard. It has to be a natural relating of the matter-of-fact goings on of your life per usual.

      That’s your best route. And the good news is – if she never comes around to wanting a relationship with you, you’ve created abundance and moved forward with your life. So do that now.

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  22. on May 3, 2014 at 3:29 am blueballs

    Need some quick tinder txt advice with 20yo HB 8.
    The slutness is strong with this one however so its all fun.
    I dont know where to place this chicks attitude but its some energy to work with at least, please advise

    fri 16:41 Me: Fuck you look like trouble. Whats daddy gotta say bout dat little red number with ur junk on display?
    fri 16:59 Her: Luckily hes not as closed minded as you
    fri 19:01 Me: Excellent. No hangups on dating the rockstar bad boy then
    fri 19:10 Her: Is that you? Haha
    fri 20:14 Me: Lulz whatever I like role play
    sat 09:23 her: You’re so hot
    sat 09:24 her: I want you right now
    sat 09:24 her: I hope you’re awake
    sat 09:25 her: let’s skype
    sat 09:25 her: Are you on cum *(!!!wtf does that mean)
    sat 09:25 her: Lulz

    Possible replies: Im busy. Tomorrow
    I love you babe
    Wow
    I dont do raging slutz

    Thanks, do your worst boys

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  23. on May 3, 2014 at 4:26 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    Rant: I was thinking about this and one great thing about being good with women is that they can get you entree into lots of nice places. If you got bored of clubs, private parties* is where it’s at and the only way I got into those is by knowing a girl that was going to one.

    *not some dude having an apartment party, but the rented villa kind.

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  24. on May 3, 2014 at 4:32 am walawala

    @will your post is just full of pua jargon.

    Game is a tool for seducing and keeping women. But as I’ve discovered, there is always the danger of “over-gaming” and being seen as too flighty for a girl to ever want to get serious with.

    There’s the danger of being too much of an orbiter.

    But the problem with girls like the one you’re describing isn’t so much your lack of game, it’s your co-dependency.

    You’re so sucked into her frame and dependent on her for your validation that you can’t function. I know. I’m getting out of this funk right now.

    You have to stop focusing on every single fucking detail of your game and instead start from within. Are you confident you are the prize? Are you ok with never seeing this girl again? Are you ok if she fucks you over?

    Define some boundaries in your mind of what you do and don’t want and whether this flakey nutcase fit in them.

    I’ve written at length about my possible BPD ex gf and the lengths she went to to suck me in, then discard me. It was hard. I had to reboot.

    Now I have clarity. You’re banging the girl, she’s coming back and you’re still walking on egg shells. Don’t you think you deserve to get banged? Do you think you’re “lucky”?

    Get out of that mindset..THAT not some game tactic …is what’s fucking you up here.

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 2:47 pm Will

      Dude you nailed it. It’s like I can game her (and maybe I’m over gaming probably) but I still have this emotional bitch side attachment thing to her. Logistically she we’re in different stages of our lives so it wouldn’t be right for me or her to be relationship. But then that how do you know when that high smv hot girl comes around and is in fact in the right stage to game for LTR. It just feels that “timing” is always off or something and I know that’s not how it should be idk

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      • on May 5, 2014 at 10:28 am walawala

        @Will read my post in the COTW on how I eye-fucked and then danced and then left my ex gf.

        I did it to overcome my Oneitis. I had plausible deniability: she had invited me to dance by eye-code a few weeks back…it was the very last set of songs of the night and no one was really around so it was kind of private.

        She was shocked. The element of surprise may or may not be a good thing. But I did it mostly for me…to help me to get over my anger.

        She never did send any gushy, girly follow-up texts but that may well be because her hamster is spinning.

        Or she doesn’t care. If she doesn’t care, then dancing with her doesn’t matter. IF she does then it was a way of testing the waters without having to make any conversation. I said nothing.

        I now am building a pipeline of girls that I can call up when I feel like meeting up or doing stuff. That takes time but with the help of modern technology and DayGame you can start getting numbers and following up fast.

        Those who aren’t keen, just drop or turn into pivots. Those who are…have fun with.

        But this requires a mental discipline that takes hard work to develop. You have to work through whatever neediness you have and whatever is the real reason for that neediness.

        My own confidence is returning each day.

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  25. on May 3, 2014 at 5:42 am Grim

    Jesus h gucking christ

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/02/4095046/legislature-set-to-ok-77-billion.html

    Florida supposedly has very conservative governor and congress

    Lol

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  26. on May 3, 2014 at 5:48 am gunslingergregi

    well the girlfriends gone again
    the tired song keeps playin on the tired radio
    it hurts im cryin I can admit it
    ill try to enjoy the pain for what it is a part of life

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 8:02 am thwack

      this aint twitter you coon with a head wound.

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 9:34 am Tilikum

      you can’t be serious

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 9:50 am gunslingergregi

        yea lol I enjoyed it but as always it got old don’t mean it aint sad when they gone
        told her was time other day I need to take break

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 9:54 am gunslingergregi

        and if ya ever say that ya need to eject em on spot ya would think I would of learned by now
        I didn’t have the conviction to really boot her to accomplish my goals
        she did it for me though now that’s love
        he he he

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 11:21 am gunslingergregi

        and yea never really cried before but ye since Iraq its not too hard sick I know

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 11:44 am Tilikum

        most nonsociopaths who see combat for more than 30 days sustained usually suffer what i call ‘miggy burnout. the constant emotional response (fight or flight) causes bloodflow to reroute semi permanently away from their prefrontal cortex and into their amygdala. depending on whether you are right or left brained, its causes severe depression (excess emotion) or they get the 1000 yard stare.

        sociopaths/psychopaths make up about 4% of the military and tend to congregate over in the JSOC tent lol.

        people always say psycho/soiciopath like its a bad thing and i laugh at em because the bitches love it. its resilience, its adaptability. its survival.

        next time you feel like that, reroute your bloodflow. logic puzzles like tetris on your iphone work wonders in restoring your executive functions.

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 11:46 am gunslingergregi

        hours later the chick that wrecked my truck calling asking what happened with you and your girl and wanting to come over

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 11:48 am gunslingergregi

      sent longest string of failing jumbotron texts in history of world
      this is how not to get her to come back lol

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 1:38 pm gunslingergregi

        dam the chick came up her belly is huge lol guess she was preggers when she said she was apparently
        she runs in tickles me and shit hugs kisses laughs at my jokes kind of takes the edge off when a chick you got a history with comes over with the sole purpose of making you feel better

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    • on May 5, 2014 at 5:47 am gunslingergregi

      yea tilikum the problem is bad shit usually don’t actually happen to me but when I see it happen to other people or hear about it it fucks me up
      like the child support that will never happen to me but tears me up that other people get fucked up by it
      when the blown up buildings that used to have families in em it fucked me up that they were just stains on the ground

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      • on May 5, 2014 at 5:50 am gunslingergregi

        weird part is I haven’t wanted to be here for 18 years so its like I shouldn’t be here but I can’t leave

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  27. on May 3, 2014 at 9:25 am Director

    Changing the subject is a critically important skill.

    Note the way Thwack fanatically negrification everything.

    He’s obviously a fanatic.

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    • on May 4, 2014 at 4:47 am thwack

      you are the one with negroes in your skull living rent free.

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  28. on May 3, 2014 at 10:20 am A T M

    Check out Eastwood as the stranger in High Plains Drifter.

    Fictional but bad ass examples of seamless transitions and all around alpha behavior.

    Rape!

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 11:11 pm blow

      Good movie

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  29. on May 3, 2014 at 10:20 am Lucaen

    i always take the random/weird/whatevs comments as an IOI. it means you’re standing out from the crowd, and at first that’s good to keep her attention. so i just ignore the random/weird comments and plow ahead. with good state and frame control, if she’s even a little bit interested she’ll play along.

    it also works as a good qualifier. if she doesn’t follow along and hammers on the random/weirdness, then she’s no fun and not worth it, or just not interested. take your skittles back and move on

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  30. on May 3, 2014 at 10:57 am Kate

    OT: Its happened. I’ve finally gone full misogynist.

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    • on May 3, 2014 at 11:49 am Lucaen

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      • on May 3, 2014 at 12:37 pm Kate

        HAHAHAHAHA 🙂 Thank you. Thank you 🙂 Its been a heckova week.

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  31. on May 3, 2014 at 3:01 pm YaReally

    Girls don’t care about logic:

    A lot of transition routines aren’t actually to make the girl feel comfortable with how you went from one topic to another, they’re to make the GUY feel comfortable with how he went from one topic to another, so that he doesn’t trigger his own “but this isn’t logical!!!” wiring that tells him he’s fucking up because he’s not executing something logical. Like a lot of new guys approach game needing logical structure so they can’t just talk about random topics and make out with the girl, they need to feel like they’re following a logical plan that logically makes sense and will logically lead to a specific result.

    So in a way, transition routines are just flowery fluff that you can usually strip waaaay down and make much more efficient when you let go of the need for everything to “make sense” because the girls themselves don’t give a shit. As long as you’re congruent and hold your frame, she goes “oh, okay I guess this is what we’re talking about now!” and is happy with it as long as she gets good emotions from it.

    This isn’t even getting into the whole subcommunications thing lol I’m too tired to write about that shit but a lot of oldschool game needed transitions because it was swirly twirly external asexual “cool social guy” game. You can chop out a lot of this shit by learning to focus laser-eyes, slow down your speech, and cut the space:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/james-francos-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-text-game/#comment-547945

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  32. on May 3, 2014 at 10:41 pm Rum

    Wuurdpreiis Modiuraetion is a bloated evil lard sucking whorish fat-bodied tick-worm…
    THE BEST THING TO DO IS toTake hold of yur freek girls hand and together run a violent campain of a rampanyt , but a carrfully comafluajled campaign of lethal redicule.

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  33. on May 4, 2014 at 2:45 am Transitioning As A Game Tactic | Truth and cont...

    […] Responding to a post about a new game routine called the Imagination Test, commenter tteclod rightfully demurred, Ross Jeffries has a version of this, but it still has some issues with transition.  […]

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