“Moments of Alpha” is a new series at Chateau Heartiste. Each post will feature a captured moment in time when a man exhibited unmistakable alpha male behavior that is a turn-on for women. The moments of alpha will run the entire spectrum of sexy masculinity, from the extreme that shocks to the subtle that seduces.
The purpose of Moments of Alpha is to reveal, through repeated exposure, the mysterious oscillations of the alpha male’s subconscious, and to ingest through this syncopation of illumination a mental template that can be incorporated into one’s own subconscious, so that the behavioral profile of men who do well with women will osmotically transfer to the attentive reader.
It is NOT a bullet point list of alpha male tactics to mimic. I can already hear some whiny feeb littering the comments. “But I tried this moment of alpha and the girl didn’t open her legs on cue! What went wrong!?” If mimicry is your goal, you will have missed the point entirely. This isn’t a memorization exercise. Think of it instead as a meditation exercise. Moments of Alpha is a strange universe to the uninitiated man, and you are here to immerse yourself in its vastness and perplexity.
Our first MOA is from Hedonism Bot, who writes,
I had a roommate who was a total natural. One of his slampieces came over (I had never seen him be nice to her) and I buzzed her in. She came in blabbing on her phone and when the roommate went to talk to her, she gave him the one minute sign. His eyes widened then he tackled her to the floor and slapped the phone out of her hand. I laughed and left to go on about my business. I found the next day not too long after I left he fisted her on the living room floor and she was “loving it”.
I have not, before or since, seen such a display firsthand.
Extremism in the pursuit of pussy is no vice. No doubt many species of the weaker beta males shuddered at the thought of tackling a girl and slapping away her phone. Doubtless, too, they shuddered harder thinking of the orgasmic perversion this unleashed in her.
Meditate for a while on this. and welcome with open mind and yearning heart the next Moment of Alpha.
Sometimes, words just don’t cut it. You gotta use force.
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and these stories are just the jolt ‘normal’ guys like me need as a reminder. i have had many MOA, but i still have the instincts born of being raised by a single mother. if i say something that is shockingly rude in my mind, i am right about in a woman’s sweet spot. you can go way way further and still get results. if you could grind a woman’s entire being to dust with your dick, like a mortar and pestle, that’s the oblivion she is searching for
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> ” if you could grind a woman’s entire being to dust with your dick, like a mortar and pestle, that’s the oblivion she is searching for”
When you find yourself venturing too far into the abyss, try to remind yourself that she’s going to be the mother of your children some day…
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@Zombie Shane
No, she’s not. Not in most cases.
I personally am still looking for a proper girl to mother my children. Can’t believe how many women a man must fuck in order to find someone decent.
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> “Can’t believe how many women a man must fuck in order to find someone decent.”
Man, I’m sitting there staring at that sentence and can’t for the life of me decide which of about a bazillion responses to go with…
LOL’ed.
That could like a motto or some shit.
I wonder how you would translate it into Latin?
Certainly it’s a pretty horrifying commentary on the times in which we live.
And maybe also a pretty horrifying commentary on all of us PUAs…
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“Can’t believe how many women a man must fuck in order to find someone decent.”
The more you fuck, the more you realize they’re all the same.
Then you come to realize you’ve been chasing unicorns and actively seeking oneitis.
And then the Red Pill slides just that little bit further down your throat…
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> “The more you fuck, the more you realize they’re all the same.”
Now that is completely NOT TRUE.
These two women are simply NOT the same:
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So cryo you think a 17 year old slender virgin (never found one myself, but hoping to) is the same as a fat 29 year old tatted up slut who’s fucked more men than she can count?
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cryo, yes, all women are the same from an instinctive perspective, but all men are the same too. Our higher assertiveness can either lead us to crack each other skulls in a paroxysm of plundering and rape or it can lead us to bend nature to our will and create some awe inspiring things. Female instincts can materialize themselves in different ways, good or bad, just like ours can. It just happens that the societies we live in makes a large share of women be bad people.
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> “It just happens that the societies we live in makes a large share of women be bad people.”
All of which is proceeding exactly as planned:
The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
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ZS, I’m uncertain why you have this mania about Marxists. They have nothing to do with the hatred feminists have for family. You can look at the views of some of the abolitionists about families and you will see the same rhetoric feminists have: that families oppress women and about the unfairness of family life towards females. It has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism. At most Marxists joined in because it served their interests too, but every single idea and current that the Frankfurt school exacerbated in the US was as American as apple pie and these ideas in the US predate the Frankfurt school being nothing more than a bunch of fruitcakes in the middle of Europe.
Of course, it’s easier to find quotes of irrelevant people such as Marxists than study the opinions of other groups in other eras and it’s also psychologically more motivating because what you’re doing is essentially looking for a scapegoat. Racial and gender equality, multiculturalism and political correctness are pretty natural to a subsegment of your country that just happened to win all the wars. It has little to do with Marxists which is why openly Marxist countries didn’t care at all about breaking down families. The only reason why the Frankfurt school ideas spread is because the people who had power there liked them. Subversion and other conspiracy theories are outright silly.
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> “ZS, I’m uncertain why you have this mania about Marxists. They have nothing to do with the hatred feminists have for family.”
Nope, nothing whatsoever.
Emma Goldman – feminist.
Rosa Luxemburg – feminist.
Lillian Hellman – feminist.
Susan Sontag – feminist.
Gloria Steinem – feminist.
Andrea Dworkin – feminist.
Naomi Wolf – feminist.
Rachel Maddow – feminist.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz – feminist.
No discernible pattern at all.
Just completely random.
Now move along, nothing to see here.
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“So cryo you think a 17 year old slender virgin (never found one myself, but hoping to) is the same as a fat 29 year old tatted up slut who’s fucked more men than she can count?”
The only difference between them is that one gets to enjoy my dick.
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“I’m uncertain why you have this mania about Marxists. They have nothing to do with the hatred feminists have for family.”
This is the wackiest thing I’ve read today. Marxism didn’t start with the Frankfurt School, it started a century before with a guy named Marx, who explicitly stated the very opinions you deny Marxists espouse. Check out one of his shorter works, the Marxist Code or something like that, about a CHUD haunting the sewers under Europe–the CHUD of Communism.
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I’m pretty surprised to see my comment reposted by our good host.
To the people calling bullshit, which is pretty natural for any Internet story, his exact words were cut for brevity. For the record, she was kind of a freak even for being so young. He said after I left they started fooling around on the floor and “I practically had my whole fist in there… I thought I was going to lose my watch”. I just know what I observed with their interactions, she hung around for months after that incident, buying stuff for him and doing everything on his terms until he curbed her ass.
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More evidence that fat shaming works. Keep it coming:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/after-mean-crack-about-wearing-a-hooters-t-shirt–overweight-woman-loses-100–pounds-and-becomes-hooters-waitress-204305898.html
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She lost the weight then shaved her head? Right back to ugly. Bitches are stupid.
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Reblogged this on Quora's Designated Asshole and commented:
Sometimes words just don’t cut it. You gotta use force.
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Weak. A true Alpha would have forced her to leave the phone at home or in the car. And fisting indicates he wasn’t enough for her.
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obsessive planning is beta. and maybe he was fisting her to make room for his coke bottle cock.
/reframe
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That doesn’t seem to fall under obsessive planning, in and of itself though. If she knows beforehand that time with you = no iCrap it just kind of works out.
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i was sort of kidding. anon was trolling for giggles, so i responded in kind.
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Heh, d’oh, I didn’t catch the sarcasm. My bad, man.
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THIS.
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A true Alpha wouldn’t have bothered.
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A true alpha does exactly as he pleases.
Maybe it’s slap the phone/tackle her/hate fuck.
Or he says nothing/kicks her out/no contact.
The King is above all unpredictable.
She is an object built for your amusement (to stimulate you in order to secure your sperm). Treat her like you would any other thing in your life. She is disposable and replaceable. She knows this and will only respect alpha who views her as such.
Abundance mentality is freedom. The natives used to burn down their own villages and start over because they could.
Sometimes it feels good to break something you own.
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I was definitely feeling like the whole “fisting” thing could have been more than a little hyperbole.
Either that, or else the bitch has a friggin BDSM porn-star history behind her.
My impression is that bitches need MONTHS of “training” before their pubic bones can relax enough to allow even a small fist to be inserted.
PS: Has anyone ever seen any statistics on pregnancy success for whores who have a past history of fisting?
Cause it seems like that shit might correlate pretty strongly with premature birth or similar obstetrical catastrophes…
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> “their pubic bones”
ligaments, tendons, WTFE it is which needs the coaxing
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I think you put your hand in and then make the fist inside. Although I’m sure somewhere, at some time, it’s been done the hard way.
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It’s something I’m not particularly inclined to consider. I prefer different ways of establishing dominance and ownership, fisting has always struck me as grotesque.
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NO OVER-ANALYSIS. The concept is clean, it is for inspiration. And moments like this one do happen. Life is long, most guys have at least one story that sounds too good to be true.
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Correct Amy, “fisting” is usually not actually a fist, just getting your hand in there.
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> “I think you put your hand in and then make the fist inside.”
Right, but from what I’ve seen, it takes forever to train the bones/ligaments/tendons to relax and open up even for that.
BONUS QUESTION: Bitches who seek out fisting are actually trying to satisfy their innate need to experience the pain [and subsequent endorphin rush] which would otherwise come from natural __________.
Print your answer in all-caps.
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@Arbiter
NO OVER-ANALYSIS.
Am I the only one catching the irony here? heh
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“BONUS QUESTION: Bitches who seek out fisting are actually trying to satisfy their innate need to experience the pain [and subsequent endorphin rush] which would otherwise come from natural __”
INCONTINENCE
Seriously tho, you may be on to something…
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BONUS QUESTION: Bitches who seek out fisting are actually trying to satisfy their innate need to experience the pain [and subsequent endorphin rush] which would otherwise come from natural __________.
Print your answer in all-caps.
Something along the lines of having a bun come out of their oven.
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> “Correct Amy, “fisting” is usually not actually a fist, just getting your hand in there.”
I don’t think I’ve ever been with a woman who could even take just three full fingers.
Not even the MILFs who’ve already experienced natural __________.
I’ve watched “training” videos where the would-be BDSM starlets are working their way up to what will eventually become a full fist.
And I’ve heard chatter on porn videos where the actresses talk about “training” for it.
But taking a full fist without training?
Yikes.
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I doubt mine would fit; maybe its that extra bone in our hand?
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i believe that’s the shin you’re talking about. /nested trolling
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> “i believe that’s the shin you’re talking about. /nested trolling”
In Philip Chism’s case, it was a tree branch:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547024/Philip-Chism-recorded-video-rape-murder-teacher-Colleen-Ritzer-cell-phone.html
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Zombie Shane
> “Correct Amy, “fisting” is usually not actually a fist, just getting your hand in there.”
I don’t think I’ve ever been with a woman who could even take just three full fingers.
”””””””””
send them bitches my way zombie 🙂
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I can’t fit anymore than 2-3 fingers in most women. It would be one stretched out woman to be able to take my whole fist.
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@The Burninator, yes, especially since footing is a superior concept to fisting.
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Or he really wanted to see if he could get a girl to go along with it.
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“And fisting indicates he wasn’t enough for her.”
agreed.
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puppetmaster gonna puppeteer.
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Fisting is for small-cocked dudes. Not Alphas.
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I enjoying putting my hand in. For one, she has to be totally fucking horny for it to happen = I’m hot as fuck. For two, I incorporate filthy language to further degrade the girl = more pussy lube.
For me, it’s part of my BDSM repertoire.
ps – get them tipsy/high, then try it. I enjoy it.
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addendum: if you feel butthurt fisting – try fucking her with the butt-end of a sharp knife/beer bottle. Insta-squirt!
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why not just learn to make her squirt with your dick?
I get the ownership thing, guys, I do…but if I’m not also getting off I feel like I’m wasting time. Srs.
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yea I do too rare to be able to get it in never had prob with 3 fingers though lol
although was one bitch little while back I couldn’t get one finger in
I usually like the malleable pussies that can do either
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Maybe he was a semi-retired gynecologist who still liked to practice on occasion, just to keep a hand in.
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lol
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A little off-topic, but do Old School jokes still work anywhere anymore?
Seems like the young bitches are gonna want fart jokes and poopie jokes and menstrual cycle bleeding jokes.
And the older bitches are gonna want 50-Shades-of-Grey bdsm naughty talk.
But is there still anywhere in our society where you can drop a very gentle refined elegant play-on-words wisecrack anymore?
Maybe Fox News?
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[…] Moments Of Alpha […]
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Gonna start reading your blog again
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CH is Chuck Palennchiuk the author of fight club a brainwashed liberal too?
I’m not on twitter.
Because his books are pretty dope.
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it would appear so. because my shiv still glimmers with his wet gay blood.
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wow. dude wrote another book where the protagonist gets a magic power to kill people just by thinking a bad thought about them and he goes around “culling” all of the stupid people. eventually the power grows and he can even cull people through the television. lzozlzozzo
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wow. dude wrote another book where the protagonist gets a magic power to kill people just by thinking a bad thought about them and he goes around “culling” all of the stupid people. eventually the power grows and he can even cull people through the television.
Sounds a lot like the anime mini series “Death Note”. The protagonist is highly intelligent, the best student in school. He sees all the trash and crime around him. One day he gets his hands on a book that belongs to a shinigami (a “death spirit” in Shinto and Chinese mythology), in which you can write down people’s names, causing them to die. He uses it to cull all the criminals in the world, fascist-style, even though he knows it bans him from heaven forever. Finally tyrants stop their wars, hundreds of thousands of innocent lives are saved. Doesn’t stop Interpol from chasing him though. It’s one of the most famous animes, I can recommend it even for those who don’t like anime (I like some of it because it doesn’t contain the Hollywood stereotypes) ; it is mostly about the cat-and-mouse game between a brilliant Interpol detective and Kira, the killer. Very dark and usually very clever.
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this is the book
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lullaby_(Palahniuk_novel)#Plot_summary
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You know, you dudes could likely be talking about every psychotic loner from Columbine through VaTech to Sandy Hook.
That’s probably similar to what they felt like they’d accomplish by murdering people.
And then there’s Dexter…
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who’s white hand is that?
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Arbiter:
Liar Game and Monster are far better IMO. Liar Game is brilliant with game theory (math, not PUA) and social dynamics. Brilliant with psychology too.
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This series needs a special logo or graphic.
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Pleased to see you keeping the lawyers at bay. Those poor whiners to WordPress et al…
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WordPress getting on the Chateau’s case?
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Kevin Conboy from Colorado:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/01/02/is-a-blubbering-inner-party-leftoid-trying-to-silence-chateau-heartiste/
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Yes, hence the defensive disclaimer in red re the comments here.
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what about the college professor who called for the extermination of all white people?
Where is his “disclaimer?”
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One great alpha moment for me (and her) was her first spanking.
She had ignored my request for a French maid costume and when she met me at her condo door that night, It was the “Hello Kitty” short-shorts instead – not bad, but not per instructions.
I sat on the couch and beckoned her closer. When she was within reach, I grabbed her, threw her across my lap, pinned her down, pulled her panties down, and proceeded to wail away at her bottom with my bare hand. She struggled to escape but my technique had her stuck.
Not only did she orgasm repeatedly, she squirted several times.
Perhaps it’s the base primate male animal in me, but the sight of a submissive female with a reddened, naked bottom is VERY arousing.
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this is awsome, got me hard. this is on my bucket list
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when she has displeased you, punish swiftly, but when she has done you right, reward slowly.
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After satisfying myself inside her, she made a lovely dinner for me. Then I satisfied myself again, in bed. Great gal, sorry I had to let her go.
Women do love to be spanked. It stimulate nerves that the buttocks share with the vagina.
I spanked her one time giving me a lousy blowjob. I left a bruise on her butt (unintentionally) that she loved to show me the next few days. I told her I was sorry that I had left evidence.
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I love that movie. They didn’t sugarcoat it. And you know “50 Shades of Grey” will be mainstream Hollywood romanticized bullshit; they’ll never get it right.
“One scoop of mashed potatoes. A slice of butter. And four peas.” Maggie was great in that movie.
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Spanking is the best thing you can do to your woman. It’s fun, too.
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“Extremism in the pursuit of pussy is no vice.”
If Barry Goldwater had led with this, perhaps the country would have been saved.
Rape!
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goldwater rape
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The Frankfurt School plays for keeps…
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Re: twitter
“Hello, I’m a mathemagician and …” * football team enters stage right to deliver series of wedgies, charlie horses, swirlies, polish bike rides, etc.*
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What does a guy get out of fisting?
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ownership.
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It seems counterintuitive if you want her to stay tight.
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if that’s a concern don’t ever let her have children.
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Never met a man that expressed interest in fisting me. Perhaps it is unusual. I would prefer it men thought of marriage as the ultimate for of ownership.
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that’s what women want men to think. the reality is marriage is the ultimate form of indentured servitude.
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LOL! How tight could she have been if he was already able to get his fist in there?
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Huh? Tight women push out kids. And then they’re not so tight.
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a newborn is much larger than a fist. if vaginal elasticity is a concern, the foremost thing to avoid would be childbirth.
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Painlessly, right? LOL
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” I would prefer it men thought of marriage as the ultimate for of ownership”
tick tock tick tock
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> “tick tock tick tock”
Thread winner.
Next thread.
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Actually Amy, when a woman has her first kid at an appropriately young age (younger than 27), everything returns to normal, including the body, including no varicose veins on the legs. So she’s still good for enjoyable sex before and leading to the one more baby, the way the world is supposed to work. In the 19th century, women had 8 or 10 kids and apparently they were still tight enough to get their men off. They had those kids between age 19 and 29.
The problem now is women being childless at 36 and being on match.com saying they want kids “someday.” lzozlozlzzozlzolol When? When they are 42?
Yeah cause Madonna did it so everyone can do it.
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Have on idea how these myths keep being perpetuated. It’s like shit teenagers say. The amount — or size — of whatever that goes into that hole has no effect on how tight it is. How tight it is or isn’t is just an anatomical genetic thing.
The only exception is childbirth, and that’s way exaggerated too.
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the average size and “throw” of vaginas apparently does vary by race. a commenter posted a link to a relevant study recently.
besides that, the vagina does lose elasticity with age, so older moms won’t snap back like younger moms will.
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‘tick tock tick tock’
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..pump n dump…destroy her forever…it turns me on too…would love to do it to you
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that Is what klegals are for
do them like a religious fanatic
it is counterintuitive that is the point
only the good pus pus can take it and still be good
he he he
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Women can tighten up if they exercise their vaginal muscles. Most mothers I’ve had sex with had normal vaginal tightness.
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I posted the study on the size of vaginas by race a while back.
Here it is:
http://racehist.blogspot.com/2008/05/racial-differences-in-vaginal.html
“Average rod lengths for Caucasians and Afro-Americans were 11.51 and 11.18 cm, respectively, and introital diameters were 4.66 and 3.14 cm, respectively. Both measurements were significantly different as measured by t test (table 5). Because rod and introital measurements were obtained from only 5 Hispanic subjects, no statistical comparisons can be made. Hispanic rod lengths ranged from 8.2 to 12.5 cm, and the introital measurements ranged from 1.9 to 3.2 cm.”
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@little spoon, how exactly will a man see marriage as a tool of ownership if there’s no fault divorce? Or do you think only men should be able to divorce? Because if it’s a tool of ownership, then your property can’t just pack up and leave.
@Grim, a personal friend married and had a child at 21 and she looks great now. She’s basically like she was before the pregnancy, but with slightly bigger breasts.
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The over-analysis is to be expected, I guess.
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Arbiter: The over-analysis is to be expected, I guess.
Let’s keep this theme rolling folks!
Zombie Shane: Would you people stop obsessing about having babies all the time?
CH: Well, I was at the DNC doing charity work for militant lesbian feminists when some girl I used to know came up and shamed me, but good!
Amy: I love those really soft, snuggly, nice guys!
Little Spoon: (insert any given intelligent remark here, any will do to give contrast)
whorefinder: I wish I could find a woman who like slow, meaningful sex within the confines of a monogamous relationship. *sigh* self-pity rape
Add your own!
cont’d…
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Didja just neg me?
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Not that you’re aware of.
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Imagine being seated at a dinner table with you.
Burninator: I vill smash their skulls into little tiny smithereens. I will pulverize the enemy till they are nothing. I am deadly serious. Always.
Me: Look. I got a bread hat.
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this is the funniest thing you’ve written here.
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Awww. Thanks.
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? http://www.quickmeme.com/Bread-Hat
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Imagine being seated at a dinner table with you.
Burninator: I vill smash their skulls into little tiny smithereens. I will pulverize the enemy till they are nothing. I am deadly serious. Always.
Me: Look. I got a bread hat.
Actually that was a good chuckle right there, heh.
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nothing.
only a loser would fist a girl. he may as well chop his own dick off & buy her a big dildo because obviously that loser thinks his dick isn’t enough for her.
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^
this is gold. fisting is a pussy move.
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literally.
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touche´
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Fisting is like anal for the pussy.
Little Spoon et al – If you’ve never been fisted, you’ve never been turned on enough. I fist girls I can’t fuck in the ass.
Take my ex – I fisted her last night – and she had a sore back all day, ha! I do it, like I said above – if the pussy is wet enough – it will take take my full hand. Why? She’s turned on to 11. I do that with my voice, my commands, and slowly progressing into it.
If the sloot is tipsy/high and wants to be naughty, though doesn’t like anal? A fist for you, sugar pie.
All this is easier if her kill count is in the teens and you know she loves being a whore for an ‘alpha’.
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I have never been fisted but no one ever expressed interest. I’m not categorically opposed to it.
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..basically what CH said. Ownership. Like anal.
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“I fist girls I can’t fuck in the ass.”
Can’t because… why? She won’t let you? Because I think fisting is scarier than anal. Not sure why, maybe the stretching potential. I think it’s a lot less dominant-submissive than anal.
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lzlozozozozo
when did it become alpha to put your cock in a poop chute?
where in history did this notion of “alpha” begin?
the iliad and odyssey?
genesis?
exodus?
the gospels?
the magna carta? (magna farta?)
did your daddy sit you on his knee and say, “some day, when you’re a man like me, son, you will put your tiny cock in her ass, and as it isn’t big enough to turn on her gaina vaginaz, you will need to man up and use your fist!”
is dat wat happenendiendz? lzlzo
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“Because I think fisting is scarier than anal.”
Scarier = wetter, if given the proper context aka alcohol.
“I think it’s a lot less dominant-submissive than anal.”
It is. Though that can turn quickly in my favour if it’s a hate fuck.
“Can’t because… why? She won’t let you?”
My johnson is thick, so it’s rare.
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I am disturbed by how so many of you view fisting as an act of disdain or revenge/hate. Do you prefer to fist girls you love or girls who mean little to you?
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ur blog is private? how is one supposed to get invited if you don’t have his email address?
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This Moment of Alpha would be hard for me to pull off naturally, not because I’m averse to violence against women (I’m not lol) but because I simply wouldn’t care enough about this slightest of slights. I would have to put on an act and pretend like I really want to “keep that bitch in line”. I guess that’s the difference better naturals and myself in that they really don’t have to internalize anything as it’s already who they are.
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i hear ya. u wanna get a little meaner naturally, increase coconut oil, bacon, and avocado in your diet. tongkat ali, and 2000ui of Vit D too.
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serious? I can’t tell lol. I mean, coconut oil?
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fuck ya. 2 tablespoons a day, w 4-5 eggs or straight out the jar.
fat=testosterone. long chains u will get from the bacon and avocado.
the MCT’s in unrefined coconut oil is fucking elixr.
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Coconut oil makes the best popcorn. Tastes fantastic. To make it even better, use clarified butter, too.
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organic. virgin coconut oil.
put it in the pan first before you do your WHOLE eggs in the morning. have with bacon, like Tilikium says.
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IIRC, virgin coconut oil is like virgin olive oil: low smoke point, not good for cooking.
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Coconut oil is one of the most slippery lubricant there is.
She can give you a hand job with it or you can use it for anal etc…
of course it can be used for massages as well. It feels better than most other oils.
it will not stain the sheets.
it is natural and unlikely to cause any bad reactions as you can get with some commercial lubricants.
it smells nice
You would think I own shares in a coconut company lol!
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There is no fucking way this is real: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2621567/Woman-stands-rapist-husband-told-victim-doing-didnt-sex-wife.html.
No way. Is that publication a tabloid or a parody thing?
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Why do we still act surprised at these stories? We know the true nature of women and yet still feign shock when it’s thrown in our faces.
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but that dude looks like he belongs in the zoo.
I mean I can believe it if it’s a human husband at least.
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its not feigned shock. its willful ignorance.
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^^^ hahaha!
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As we know the true nature of niggers.(And no I aint being rayciss,just telling the troof.) Other darks are similar,where rape is very very common. Sort of a rape culture. But the feminism cunts usually react to the darkies like this hog did. Take a good look at her face;she has a very masculine,almost animal appearance. A true feminist!
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Grim, this isn’t normal. If it were, the tabloids wouldn’t be interested. She’s looney tunes.
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these stories are best viewed as canaries in an id-mine.
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meant ^^^^^^ hahahah!
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> “these stories are best viewed as canaries in an id-mine.”
HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE BETA CUCKOLD TRAITOR, JOHN BOEHNER, IS FORCED INTO A RUN-OFF IN OHIO TONIGHT.
MAY HE BURN IN HELL:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314818/Dominic-Lakhan-The-Jamaican-born-fianc-John-Boehners-daughter–arrested-possessing-marijuana.html
http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/04/boehner-below-50-percent-support-in-own-district-ahead-of-tuesdays-primary/
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“these stories are best viewed as canaries in an id-mine”
Someone’s been reading The Last Psychiatrist
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Surprise surprise, she is an “environmentalist”. Leftist bitch marries Black drug-using ogre, for ideological reasons and to be on the media owners’ side. Cares nothing when he kidnaps and rapes other women. Leftists are filth, I never believe them when they pretend to care about other people – it is always only trendy “caring” that they engage in. They sort of believe their care is honest too, people are masters at self-deception. While conveniently ignoring other victims.
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She was shouting: ‘He tried to rape me,’ but Thompson responded to the men who had come to her rescue: ‘Don’t worry about it brother, she is my girl, seriously blood you can go home – I would not go with another girl when I have a picture of my wife in my wallet.’
Note the immediate appeal to race loyalty from his “blood” and “brother”.
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He didn’t invent that.
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Note the reasoning too.
Can you connect the two ideas on a sound rational basis?
Pikshuh in mah Wallitt. No rape dis ‘ere winminz.
Logical stuff.
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Why didn’t he just grab her phone out of her hand? Tackling sounds hilariously over the top.
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^
tackling and then fisting sounds a lot like a guy losing his frame.
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not if she doesn’t see it coming.
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or reinforcing it by asserting physical dominance…
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i see what you mean. the element of surprise and the display of dominance are valid AND necessary but there are ways to show dominance and still hold a semblance of control. tackling and fisting seems reactionary and a little childish. it’s only my opinion but that is just a little over the top for my taste. especially for something so minor.
and setting the bar that high for such a minor infraction means you’ll have to amp it up even more the next time she does something really stupid to get the same effect.
it’s like people who scream at their kids for stupid little shit all the time and they wonder why they have to pull out a belt just to get a reaction after awhile.
i get the message and it is a great takeaway. just a little overkill for me.
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Yeah but now she fits him like a glove…
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Helpin A Younger Brother Out
I have these neighbors across the street nice neighborhood upscale. There is a Dad a Stepmom and a 17YO son. He is a good kid. No trouble. He’s graduating high school. His parents probably pull down over $40k together I know the parents. The dad is really nice and really weak, the stepmom is everything we talk about on here. She is a fucking vicious mean ball busting bitch. And she hates this boy. Don’t know why he has done nothing wrong.
He cannot get a job because he has no car and they won’t drive him. He is still riding the school bus as a senior. And of course because of minimum wage laws getting a job at 17 is almost impossible. He has a girlfriend that he is helplessly stuck on. To go to prom he could not get 100bucks from his cunt stepmom/weak father so he had to be the only person at prom without a tux. Talk about social stigma.
Now his only support system in the world as shitty as they are is moving two states away and won’t take him with them. Probably a blessing in disguise. So they have pawned their own son off on some friends who are willing to let him crash with them and he is going to work construction. With a member of this other family. If his weak milquetoast father would only come off some of his cash he could get the boy a car and a job he could go to college and have a half way decent life. But the resentment and hate and meanness of the bitch is blocking it. And the dad is too much of a pussy to do anything about it.
I want to reach out to this kid and help him out but not sure how. He is smart and decent and is headed towards a life of need and despair. And it should not happen. Any ideas on what to do? I thought about giving him a copy of “No More Mr Nice Guy” by Dr. Robert Glover. It was my gateway drug to this world. But I am not sure it is kind of for older men. Any ideas? I do not know him really well he hardly ever comes out of the house anymore. But I would like to do something. Just hate to see a young man wasted like this when I could do something about it.
God know his pussy father is not going to do anything. Any ideas? There’s got to be a way to help.
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Link him here and ROK. It’s not really your place to do anything more, it’s not like you can buy him a car or anything.
$40k gets you in a nice upscale neighborhood these days? You live in Detroit?
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Haha…$400k. It was a typo. Most houses are over 3500 Sqft. and yards over 1/2 acre. lol And these quys around here are probably more whipped than the average American male.
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you mean he makes $390,000 and she makes $10k doing her arts and crafts hobby?
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“cue the farm animal sounds”
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Ah, got it, had a feeling but couldn’t help but rib you about it.
Most high level corporate drones, and doctors and many lawyers,are as blue pill as you can get without actually having their nuts surgically removed.
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Your heart is in the right place, but exercise a modicum of creativity and initiative and mentor the kid, Dawg. Loan him some good books for him to read. Teach him to lift weights and proper diet and nutrition. Teach him a new hobby. Encourage him to learn a trade. Introduce him to this blog. Invite him to hang out with you and your friends to watch sports or to play pickup games.
If you care about the kid, mentor him like he’s your nephew or kid brother.
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Definitely talk to him when you get the chance.
I’m young enough to know what it’s like to lack any real mentors as a youth. I never met anyone to guide me on a positive path towards real masculinity until just this year. Grew up as a lower middle class kid in an upper class part of town, surrounded by whipped men.
Stumbled on to Heartiste by chance. Don’t expect him to to the same. Mentorship is something fundamental to the healthy development if young boys. Do the kid a favor, even if it’s a little awkward at first.
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@reco This seems to have triggered some weird feelings in you. I think rather than helping this kid out you might consider digging deep to understand why this even matters.
This is codependency. It’s a major roadblock to “alphadom”.
Being a “people pleaser” attracts emotional vampires. It’s a trait to really address. Stop being such a nice guy and look out for yourself.
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Maybe somebody wanted to help you once, but someone talked them out of it…
Guide him to some forums that have sections for 18-21 year olds. Kids his own age helping him out might be beneficial. Give him a book to read, but try not to overwhelm him with information. See if he is ready for more.
OT: Does anyone have any leads on grants for doing this kind of mentorship stuff? I want to open some kind of men’s center, but I am coming up with nothing in my quest. You wouldn’t believe the ridiculous ways money is being spent. Well, maybe you would.
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Be very VERY careful here about what you are doing.
Almost any intervention you make in the situation is almost certainly going to be interpreted [and interpreted CORRECTLY in most cases] as being the opening salvo of an older sodomite moving in to molest a little boy.
PS: Are you seriously saying that there is $400K of cash flow coming into the household each year but the Worthless Dad and the Evil Stepmom REFUSE to send the poor kid to college?
Please tell me that this is some sort of a horrible joke?
If that $400K figure is correct, then the best intervention in the situation might be to fuck the Evil Stepmom and then to show the Worthless Dad the video afterwards, and to tell him, “I did this because your son needs you. Get this whore out of your life, and give your son the Love which he is despairing for.”
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Christianity is very good on the nature of the bond which exists [or at least which OUGHT to exist] between a man and his son:
http://www.bartleby.com/108/43/3.html#S10
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First of all he is not a little boy. He is much bigger than me. And is almost 18. I really dont know the kid. So I am not sure he would even trust me. I hardly ever see him. Just thought I could help keep a future victim off of the borg. From getting fucked up.
And yes at least $400k maybe more. And as for your idea of fucking the evil stepmom. She is absolutely hideous. I would not fuck her with your dick.
And you would thank me for it.
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wtf kind of gay shit is that
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> “Just thought I could help keep a future victim off of the borg. From getting fucked up.”
Look, I am totally with you as far as doing something for the kid.
Have you tried talking to the Worthless Dad?
Having a beer with Worthless Dad and axing him whether he’s being just a little too cold with his own flesh and blood?
If nothing else, and if the kid ends up sleeping on the couch of the family with the construction job, then you could anonymously send the kid a book or two on Game, to the new family’s address, and attach a note.
Something like, “You don’t know me, but I’ve been watching your family situation disintegrate from afar, and all I’ve got to say is: ‘Hang in there. Keep a stiff upper lip. Keep your eye on the prize. Stand upright. Never hunch your shoulders. Don’t let the world get you down. Don’t let The Man break your soul and turn you into just another worthless beta cubicle-dwelling wage-slave cockroach like all the other losers who chose not to swallow the Red Pill. Blah blah blah blah blah…'”
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lol! you’ve gone fucking native bro!
i love it! in the words of Frank Reynolds “shits about to get really weird!”
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this is some tarantino sht. second this.
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tell him join army go green to gold do like my buddy did and have army pay for him to go to college but owe no time of service in the contract
make 86k but ya I guess 400k jeez that’s not bad
mentored 21 year old in Iraq to save his loot get car of dreams and save his first 100k felt like I accomplished somethin
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Where the fuck were you born?
Behind the old Iron Curtain?
And then emigrated to the USA?
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Gregory is too pure for this world.
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I feel that way too sometimes and sometimes I send a string of texts meant to tear the guts out of someone
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mentoring my chickbuddy from school son now
he 17
he’s king of the nigs now white kid but I know where that leads if he stays here
drug dealing murder charges jail
trying to get him the fuck out of here
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think he trying to copy my life cause he got crush on my chick lol
wants to be like me so I guess good in way he he he
he got to learn by some example of what it can be like with a woman
or maybe what it should be like while together anyway
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yea zombie I seen the media hype growing up but that don’t make it real or
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””””””””[and interpreted CORRECTLY in most cases]”””””””’
that is creepy
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people pretty much in awe of my relationships really been told many time I got the perfect relationship with my chicks
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> “that is creepy”
About 99% of all grown men who coach little league boys’ sports are on-the-down-low faggots looking for a blow job.
And 100% of all grown men who coach little league girls’ sports are playaz looking to get cuddly wit da jailbait.
Do not kid yourself.
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zomb you one sick motherfucker
”””””””””””’About 99% of all grown men who coach little league boys’ sports are on-the-down-low faggots looking for a blow job””””””””””””””””””’
are you serious or kidding
that couldn’t possibly be true
you spouting insane shit now
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Have you ever heard of Jerry Sandusky?
He was actually a very minor player in a massive network of largely JEWISH sodomites in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/New York/Connecticut area, who traded little boys amongst themselves the way that you or I might have traded baseball cards or comic books.
If you are not aware of how powerful the sodomite/bulldyke mafia is, then you haven’t truly swallowed the Red Pill.
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I would recommend the Myth of Male Power by Dr. Warren Farrell. After that id go with reading the archives at CH, rational male and the private man.
Before any of that I would wait until he was 18 cuz of the mom. Also if he doesnt clearly want the red pill id skip it. He will see you as the bad guy for being such a misogynist if he doesnt want the pill. Its an uphill battle fighting the training he gets from the media and his family 24/7.
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Except that she isn’t his Mom.
She’s his friggin STEP-Mom.
Who, I’m guessing, wants 100% of the $400K per annum for herself, and 0% of it spent on her stepson going to State U.
This situation is so fucked up that it’s like a 21st Century version of some shit straight out of Hans Christian Andersen or the Brothers Grimm.
Either video tape that evil woman with a German Shepherd’s dick up her ass and show it to the old man.
Or crawl under her car and cut some holes in the tubing for her brake fluid.
SRSLY.
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http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/Forums/tabid/359/forumid/804/threadid/9777/scope/posts/Default.aspx
1. This guy’s anger is felt and repeated in tens of thousands of cases across the west. I’m one of them.
2. All of this was explained on page 2 of the Bible, in the Eve story. We are–again–simply rediscovering what the ancients knew about the nature of women.
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Asian cutie (hb6.5/7) I’ve been seeing.
On our first date we banged and she was a bit difficult to get for the 2nd meet.
She sent me a selfie one night of her in black panties.
One day I sent something to the tune of:
“I hope you’re using this hiatus to go lingerie shopping and replace those granny panties”
She was hooked and I was able to easily push towards the meetup where after another bang occurred, I had no problem seeing her.
Anyway, couple weeks back I went and bought her some new panties. Get to her place that night and she’s cooking me dinner.
Pull out the bag with said panties and tell her to go try one on for me. Her eyes light up and she goes to her room. A couple minutes go by so I go see what’s up; and she’s texting on her phone.
I tell her to quit playing. Go to the kitchen and grab a pair of scissors. Come to her room and playfully chastise her for texting.
Push her against the wall and grab her by the hair and start kissing her. Meanwhile my hand pulls down her pants and goes to cut off her current panties. She tries to fight and can’t believe it’s happening. I hold her against the wall and manage to cut her undies off.
Pull down her pants the rest of the way and order to try on the present I got her. She loves it but is hella shocked and kept saying “Omg I can’t believe you did that it was so violent”
Anyway, she was def turned on and liked the idea of it all. I liked it too and owe Heartiste and other commenters for putting me in the right mindset to do that.
A couple years ago that kind of dominance wasn’t possible in my mind. It’s become more second nature and it feels pretty good.
Beyond that, it was an enjoyable experience. No doubt this girl told her friends about it and will remember it for the rest of her life. It wasn’t degrading either; more of a soft dominance thing that was a good experience.
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This is awesome, IG. Very hot.
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IG! Great to see you back around man.
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Ditto!
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@immoral great story. great move.
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nicely done, brother!
I’ll keep that frame of mind in check.
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@immoral on the Asian-American front, I connected with a 27 year old via Tinder…for fuck’s sake! New York moved back to Asia. Tinder is “pass” or “fail”.
Girl’s photos are hot. Seems she’s new an looking to hang out with guys. My text game is based on Krauser’s model and was able to spark enough interest to get her number.
Then I text back for logistics starting with:
Me: Hey Carrie Bradshaw, you in New York?
Her: Who’s this? —-means she’s texted or replied to a lot of dudes.
Text back and forth on logistics and set something up for Friday–turns out it’s her birthday. Then she texts back to postpone to Saturday.
Some additional banter about her being a hip hop dancer–she sends me a photo of her in smoking hot yoga pants.
Her: Hey wala…sorry to do this but can we meet on Saturday instead?
Me: You’re buying the first round. Saturday am in xxx can meet 12:30am
Her: Why that late? WOW…princess shit test her
Me: Got party
Her: IC…Then let’s hang out some other time. PRINCESS
Me: OK
I leave it a day and am out for drinks at a swanky bar named after the pin up artist Alberto Vargas. I send her a photo of my Old Fashioned with a drink coaster of a Vargas girl in stockings and heels, tits out.
Me: Hey hip hop girl, am celebrating Buddhas birthday at Vargas
More banter ensues….she’s with her mom shopping and bought a bottle of wine..
We confirm our meet up for this Sunday afternoon. I send her a photo of the place from Facebook with a female friend of mine standing in front of it. I hadn’t even noticed she was in it.
Her: Is that your date in the picture? Lol
Me: Behave. You’re full of questions I was the journalist young lady
Her: M….you sound like a control freak…
Me: Indeed Girls like a guy who’s decisive
Her: Not too much.. Maybe some lame Asian girls. Not me
Me: Into the wine are we
Her: I am
I send this as an example of how 1) these hot girls are trouble but deep down inside are insecure. 2) Text is how all girls live now. This exchange is make or break in terms of passing shit tests. 3) This girl is well up for it if I game her right. 4) You can take the Asian girl out of America…but you can’t take America out of the Asian girl.
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“I hope you’re using this hiatus to go lingerie shopping and replace those granny panties”
Ha! Stolen.
For some reason most Americanized asian 6.5/7s I’ve met are into some pretty twisted shit. First date anal (at my office…) with a girl that fit that description, a number of years ago.
Glad to see you’re still at it IG!
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> “For some reason most Americanized asian 6.5/7s I’ve met are into some pretty twisted shit.”
Asians have no inner core.
It’s why they’re silly putty in the hands of the Frankfurt School.
Asians will always do exactly as they’re told.
All that matters is who does the telling.
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Sup IG,
For those just starting, a good way to check if a girl is going to be into dominance play ( most are ) is , during the act , grab her hands clasp her wrists together and then pin them above her head, using you other hand to explore her lovely lady parts. Maintain strong dominant eye contact except for the occasional bite or nibble.
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yup. this is my go-to first testing-the-waters move. If she’s super receptive I’ll slide the other hand up to her throat as I kiss her or I’ll slide it up to the back of her head and grab a fistful of hair and tilt her head back and nibble her neck and whisper shit into her ear.
Props IG. I gotta do a bigger reply to you and Hunter this week. I’m all caught up in reco’s live pickup this week lol
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Truth.
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Tuesday Update
@yareally The reason I did not send it last night was not I was afraid of offending her. I had basically written her off. It was simply lack of understanding the timing and the time I had. Learning this stuff is like a second full time job in addition to my work family and hobbies. It is a whole hell of a lot to digest. I am supposed to get more plates spinning and I am working on that. Then there are multiple strategies to deal with all of the plates. Not complaining mind you. I really appreciate the help. I will gladly send the whose this text tonight. And see how it goes. Lesson learned. And yes I need a flowchart, a gant chart, a manual, and a powerpoint presentation.lol This is a lot of shit. But I do want to make it part of who I am. Not just a set of moves or techniques and scripts.
@HABD On the 33YO no word. So I am just going to soft next her for a couple of days. I am sure she will text me soon. I will wait until Wednesday. And I feel good about that text exchange she was qualifying herself to me hard. And I just let her spin. It was kind of amusing to watch. Her just telling me all of the things she wants me to think about her and me knowing that it is all bullshit. Just a show she is putting on for my benefit.
@walawala thanks for the info on OKC. I am a little leery since I am married and almost all profiles are asking for single. Not sure how to handle that. Also what is your demographic? You seem like you are a similar age. And getting a lot of young pussy.
And do you have any tips on your profile, and what you send them when messaging a prospect? I don’t want to pilfer your stuff. Just some tips to get me started.
And I want to get the book you recommended. However i believe it only comes in hardcover. Kind of hard to have that show up at the house if you know what I mean. lol Gonna have to figure something out. Wish they had a PDF version of it.
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What’s your marriage story, man? Did wifey go cold? Was it due to your blue pill prior self? Inquiring minds and all.
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Well it is a long story. Pretty typical I think. I was totally plugged in and did not even know it. I had been married for quite a few years. Have the kids the house the car career the American Dream/Nightmare. I really knew it was wrong before I got married and cut it off once. But got talked into going ahead with it. Biggest mistake of my life. And I have no one to blame but myself. Theres some regret for ya.
But I started reading. Read the Game about 5 years ago. Kept up with some of the stuff from that community. Read No More Mr Nice Guy. That really got me started thinking about two years ago. I considered cheating. Backed out and then thought some more about it. Slowly I started to awaken. Started putting my foot down with my wife. Thought about the cheating thing again. And realized that 80% of Americans cheat at some point. That kind of put me in the mindset that it is a monogamous marriage in the confines of a legal contract where if you break it you would suffer egregiously was a true and utter aberration. And cheating was starting to look more and more normal.
Then you ad to it the thought of going through this hell for 50 or 60 years. You know the drill bad or no sex, wife getting fatter and older, treating me like I come in fourth behind herself, the kids, her family and then me. Fuck she had it all. And I was the one making it happen. It is no wonder more men don’t commit suicide. Then people say well its not the sex it is the dishonesty.
Thats a good one just about everything my wife ever agreed to before we were married she has either gone back on or lied about. So at that point the justification was complete. Now it was just a matter of finding a willing accomplice. Not so easy when you are a nice guy and cant handle women. Or more importantly yourself. Couple of flings and few more attempts at flings.
Then I discovered the Red Pill and here I am. The shock of learning all of this has been immense in my life. And I am not above making a change. Just don’t know how or when or to what degree. I will say my path has been crooked and painful. And I don’t recommend it. Its just the one that I took.
Whats your story? Are you married? Are you like your name newly aloof.
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> “Have the kids the house the car career the American Dream/Nightmare…. treating me like I come in fourth… just about everything my wife ever agreed to before we were married she has either gone back on or lied about…”
Could you give some specific examples [without disclosing your identity]?
Cause I’m not seeing any absolute deal-breaker in what you’ve said so far – no particular transgression which would be worth destroying your childrens’ souls over [when Mommy and Daddy eventually get divorced].
Is she still fertile?
Could you have more children with her?
And have you tried working Game on HER?
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Well not that it is anything that one man can judge for another man. But I think the story is pretty typical. I was a victim did not know it. She took advantage of it. She benefited from my servitude. And she got to have it all. And I got not so much. And I don’t blame her for it. This is not about getting back at her. I blame myself me only. And only I am going to get myself right. There were multiple betrayals in our marriage and they do not I believe involve infidelity. These betrayals were very deep and very real and on display for the world to see. She had many chances to do the right thing. She always chose to go against her husband. That is on her. I always chose to be loyal to her and hope that would fix everything. It never fixed anything. The mood in our house now is very different after learning from this site and others. I have a very dominant presence and that is like HABD said good for the kids to see. The lack of love and regard is something you cannot change. Rollo said you cannot negotiate desire. So fucking true.
Lets use a physical metaphor to illustrate. Everyday you have someone who is kicking you in the stomach. And using you as a punching bag. Doing everything in their power to keep you in this subservient position using your own money and status to keep you there. But worse than that. This person has sworn an oath of loyalty to you to hold you in the highest regard over everyone else. Then they go back and they kick you some more. And everyone is there to see it. Then one day you decide to stand up to them. You change the dynamic and show them that they are not going to kick you anymore. They have to obey because they never had any real power anyway. Now you are just supposed to make nice and everything will be ok? How does that work? I am human. I am not a saint. I cannot forget. If i did I would be crazy to forget.
It is a known fact that the best thing you can do for your kids when raising them is to be loyal to your spouse and love your spouse. So what do you do when that is not an option. Demonstrate to you children every day that you dont love each other and continue the charade that everyone know is a sham.
So I do not accept your assessment of what getting a divorce does to kids. Yes it is bad and it can even be devastating. But I think destroying the souls of your children is a bit melodramatic. Not that we ever have any melodrama on this site. lol I know quite a bit about divorce and I can tell you many times divorce is a relief to the children and if handled correctly can benefit them in the long run. I know many people that were so glad when their parents do get divorced. Some even said wow it was about time you guys split up.
Maintaining a consistent and contiguous positive presence in my kids life. Not putting them between me and my wife and being a good parent every day are very important ethics to implement. Sometime more important than two people living in the same house. Where the coldness of a dead marriage pervades the mood daily. Also there is the issue of children going through the hell of watching a loveless marriage and carrying on that same tradition when they grow up. And continuing the cycle. Remember children do not do what you say they do what you do.
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@reco
on the 33 yo…remember, don’t send a text first unless it is to meet up somewhere (and then she either flakes or complies)…all texting moves the interaction forward or you’re too busy to be bothered because you have too many other options…
on the text exchange – did you spot the ‘white knight’/beta frame she was trying to get you into on a conscious level or was it unconscious (didn’t feel right)?
the ‘show’ isn’t for your benefit…it’s for the ‘benefit’ of the beta provider she is trying to lock down…and she doesn’t do it on a conscious level, so to her it’s not bs, that’s her life now…your amusement comes from the effects of that red pill you are sucking on…she is still ‘blue pill’ and plugged in…for you that’s feature not a bug, since it allows predictive accuracy and default responses. (see YaReally’s analysis for details…)
regarding OKC ‘requirements’, just ignore the inconvenient ones. would the girl care if brad omg! pitt was married when he called her? no? same rules apply to you (alpha)…those requirements are beta bait to self select against availability for beta provider status…
‘you’re telling me that i’ll be able to dodge bullets?…’ ‘no, i’m telling you that when you’re ready…you won’t have to…’
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@reco
“@yareally The reason I did not send it last night was not I was afraid of offending her. I had basically written her off. It was simply lack of understanding the timing and the time I had.”
All good, this stuff will get a lot more natural to you over time. It’s mainly repetition. The biggest mind-fuck of the game is realizing how repetitive/predictable human interactions really are and that you can run into the same situation over and over and handle it the same way over and over (with minor adjustments for calibration) and get the same result over and over. It’ll come with time and this won’t seem like anywhere near as much hassle. Like probably 80% of this I don’t even really think about when I’m doing it, but I’ve made a very specific effort to keep conscious of what I do and why for the sake of helping teach other guys but if I just shut my brain off for a year I would be sitting here giving uselessly vague advice like “just be cool, man” and “just like, let her know you wanna bang dude” because I wouldn’t really understand what I’m doing anymore because it’s all fully internalized. 🙂
“This is a lot of shit. But I do want to make it part of who I am. Not just a set of moves or techniques and scripts.”
Only reason I’m helpin’ ya is ’cause it sounds like you’re actually working on your shit and trying to get a handle on it. I always have a ton of respect for any guy who decides to take action and change his life for the better.
“@HABD On the 33YO no word. So I am just going to soft next her for a couple of days. I am sure she will text me soon.”
This is the right move. She’ll text SOMETHING within 2 days, 3 max. If she’s super shy and low self esteem she might think you’re mad at her and just not take the initiative to txt you again but she doesn’t sound like the type from how you’ve described her. It would be VERY surprising if she flaked next time…but again pitch the next meet up like you did this one, as an asexual meet-up with a false time constraint so her ASD stays off.
If she doesn’t bring up flaking, you don’t bring it up. So like if 2 days from now she txts you all cheery about whatever the fuck, you don’t go “you know flaking on me was a dick move” or anything, you act like you didn’t even realize you guys had plans lol
The nice thing with an older chick is you know she doesn’t have a dozen suitors lined up at her door like a 20yo does, so it’s not like she’s going to just stop txting you completely lol
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i dunno if this ones a wash or not but its springtime and ive got fresh field reports.
so awhile back my buddy told me e maid of honor at his wedding (i was best man) wanted to bang me. she is at university several states away, but comes often to visit our hometown. so ive laid a bit of groundwork over the.months, and everything seemed hunky dory….she sounded keen to meet. finally out schedules aligned this.past week and i.went for the meetup. now thing is, i have a gf of6 months. she worships me, and ive told her i cant suppress my need for sex w other women…and she understands but just wants.me to be discreet. so i go for the meet and it turns out my friends wife (obv her friend) TOLD HER I HAD A GF. cockblock of the century.
me: “lets hang tonight
girl: “i dont think that’s a good idea”.
me: “um what”
her: “well xxxxx told me you have a gf, so obviously that gave me pause”
me: “thats really my business.. ya know”
me: “plus were just meeting up is not like im proposing to you lol”
her: “true but the fact that you’re making plans with one person while you’re with another person is kind of a turn off”
her: “you don’t have to feel like you’re doing anything wrong its just how i feel about it”
me: “uh whatever”
me: “my gf knows i see other women but if thats.weird to you then thats fine. i dont feel bad”
then the next day i tried again.
me: “lets hang tonight”
her: “sorry i have plans tonight”.
me: “so what. ditch them”
her: “i try not to cancel plans after they’ve already been made”
me: ” i try not to care about your morals”
her: ” Well how about this, I’m looking forward to the plans I’ve made tonight with some of my oldest friends, so I don’t want to cancel them. ”
me: ” your friends are gay and they will be here during your several future visits”
me: “like 9 pm”
her: ” Sorry, I’m not going to cancel my plans.”
me : “are you always this difficult”
the end. lol. its admittadly shabby.but.fuck my buddy made it sound like this girl was dtf so lost a bit of patience with her. a sticking point for me..anger. gotta get better at that. wtf is the dynamic here? does the fact that i have a gf trigger asd…since she now has to acknowledge that this is just a hook up? it is regardless and she knows that, but i winder what the big deal is. i suppose thus is one of the pitfalls of social circle game…people blab.
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“The biggest mind-fuck of the game is realizing how repetitive/predictable human interactions really are”
this man speaks ineffable truths.
listen.
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Got an update.
First my 26YO HB9 just sent me a very cute pic, with the caption “I called you the other nite…look at my hair”. Of course I did not respond. I swear I would have never thought that she was going to call or text me again. I figured she was in the wind. This is amazing. So I am holding the line. Not contact still?
Second my little 33YO MILF HB7 who was supposed to go out with me tonight and flaked. She sent me a text at around 7pm saying “howdy”. I did not respond. Then about 30 minutes ago, she sent another text “guessing you got very busy today”. Still i did not respond. I will wait until tomorrow to text her. I can hear the whir of the hamster wheel all the way over here. LOL
I am truly amazed. And yes yareally I take yours and others advice very seriously. And I am learning and taking notes. I have already created a file of lessons learned and behaviors to emulate.
@tilikum thanks for the input. I want to get to that point where I can see these predictable cues and act on them without having to think about it so much.
I also must say that my sense of urgency to respond has subsided since I first started down this path a couple of weeks ago. Before it would have been sheer torture to let these texts go unanswered from two cute girls.
Let me know if there is any thing else I should do.
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@reco
Send 26yo a txt (preferably late at night) that just says either “lol” if that’s congruent to you or “stalker.” if a lol would be out of the blue. A lol is best for ambiguity but stalker will get her hamster going. For your own mental reference you’re calling her a stalker for calling you and not leaving a message or talking to you or anything. It’s just a tease, she’ll get it and lol or she’ll ask why you think that. Just riff that only stalkers call and don’t leave a message and then confirm that you know she’s a stalker because you saw her outside your bedroom window last night and go from there. With this one you can use a lot of radio silence because she isn’t used to it and she’s full of herself so she can handle more ignoring than a shy/insecure girl could and is less used to it so it’ll drive her hamster more crazy. So if you get into a flirty convo and pitch a meetup and she replies with anything other than enthusiastic consent you send “hmm” and radio silence ignore her for a solid week or so no matter what she txts.
Ignore 33yo till tomorrow evening, then txt her either a “lol” or if that’s not congruent to you then txt her an “I’m always busy. I might be free next week though. What’s your schedule look like?” and if she says anything that isn’t her enthusiastically offering up a free night she can hang out just txt “hmm.” and go radio silent for a few days till she txts you a few times (give it like 3-5 days of silence). If she does offer up a time she’s free, txt her “k I’ll let you know.” and just resume normal flirty fun convo then closer to that day txt her that she’s meeting you at blah for blah but you have to be up early etc. again.
Good luck!
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@reco
Also you don’t acknowledge or bring up her hair pic. If she forces you to comment on it like what did you think of my pic?? You just txt “not enough cleavage” or “can’t see your tits”. She’ll probably call you a jerk/perv/etc but you just respond with “I know you can do better.” and she should send a sexy pic you can respond with “good girl.” to.
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@yareally ok. Send her a text saying stalker late at night. Just so I get the timing right. Should I do it tonight? I have been silent for about three weeks now. And how did you know she was full of herself?
Also I sent the whose this text about 2 hours ago to the 20yo Brazilian chick on her hang up. No response yet. I am predicting she will not respond. Maybe 5% chance of her responding. But hey you are the expert brother.
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@reco (i think the stack ate my last one, so we’ll see if it pops out…)
basic point was don’t hold 33 yo’s bs against her (don’t let it sour you view of her…). she doesn’t do it at a conscious level. to her this is her life now…not a ‘show’…she is still in the blue pill reality. just because you can see things (which is good = increased predictive accuracy), doesn’t mean that she can too. sometimes i think that is half of the bitterness of that red pill. once guys wake up, they think they are being played on purpose because they see the shit clearly and just assume that the woman knows too…don’t get me wrong, some women do, but most are just clueless…
having said that…
it’s time to fly little birdy…
my advice on the hb9 was to wait 2 months from last contact. that could still work, but YaReally has a different approach…sooo you’ll have to make the call. make your predictions, make your play…the two months from last contact was to let her ‘reset’ then ping her to start up fresh. that’s the reason for the wait. (and to give you time to ‘reset’ also…) you’ve made really good progress…enough to get good results from either choice.
the choice is between an active reset and a passive reset. the waiting 2 months is the passive reset, time accomplishes that for you while you go and do important shit like game other girls…sometimes that’s the only way to win (see Walawala’s story in the archives…). here your hb9 wasn’t at that level, yet, but she was still seeing you as beta. either play can work out, it’s beer v. wine…it’s all good, just make your predictions and work your plan…
YaReally’s play will get you back in the mix with hb9 now, but she’s still trying to ping you as a beta (that’s why the hair pic (boring…but beta would say ‘wow, you look great…’) she hasn’t reset, yet. his play will force her into compliance (sexual vibe) or you go dark again…but there’s no rush, she still hasn’t blown up your phone yet…so she’ll start to up the ante now if you don’t respond.
the issue with responding now is that to her you’re still beta, so you’ll have to actively change her view point. the good news is that is more hands-on so you learn more…gotta break some eggs…
if you stay dark, it’s the same play as before…wait til she resets (2 months or so) then ping for a drink (with logistics set for fun…)
good luck!
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Ok late at night and I texted her…
Me:stalker
Her: ohhh ok
Her: h/o gotcha
I have not responded. 15 min later she calls me. She never initiated phone calls before. She acts just like nothing ever happened. We chit chat a little I’m talking about 1/3 to her 2/3s. She asked what i have been doing and where i have been. she talked about her crazy work schedule. kind of a sideways explanation of why she had been so flakey weeks ago.
Then she asked about her hair I told her I don’t see her titties. She said she did her hair not her tits. And then I laughed and she was insisting that I comment on her hair. Saying well? I said it was ok.
We talked some more and she was slurring her words she probably had been out drinking. I made a neg/joke about her being my little druggie. And she got a little excited and said I was mean. Then it got silent and she said I am waiting. Like I was supposed to apologize. Big time shit test. And I was having to erase 50 years of indoctrination and think on my feet.
She said I am waiting again. I can see how she has really good frame control. I laughed and said good night. And she said what your not going to apologize that hurt my feelings. I said you need to lighten up. She said it hurt her feelings again. It got silent again and then I said good night. She said really and we hung up.
Sure didn’t feel like any kind of success. What do you guys think? A Little progress. But damn she is a fighter.
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@having a bad day
“i think that is half of the bitterness of that red pill. once guys wake up, they think they are being played on purpose because they see the shit clearly and just assume that the woman knows too…don’t get me wrong, some women do, but most are just clueless…”
Agreed. It’s why I don’t get mad/frustrated/annoyed with girls when they do flaky silly shit. They’re just being girls and, when you really break down exactly WHY they’re doing it, they’re doing it out of a hypergamous “testing to make sure my guy is as high-value as I think he is” instinct. It’s not malicious, it’s their version of checking the oil on a car or whatever to just make sure it’s running in the tip-top condition she needs it to run.
The worst thing in the world for her is to get stuck with a beta, or to find out her alpha is a beta in sheep’s clothing. So she tests over and over. Truly alpha guys give no fucks about the testing…the guys who are pretending or are beta get pissy and cry about “why do they have to make it so haaaaaard” because it’s work for them to try to stay alpha in the face of shit-tests because their internal view of women isn’t the same as a natural who just lol’s at girls being girly.
“the choice is between an active reset and a passive reset.”
I agree. You’re advocating a passive reset and I’m advocating an active one. The only reasons I’m advocting an active one is that 1) she’s young so it won’t take her long to find another guy, esp an older man…if she was 30+, she’d still probably be single in 2 months, but with a younger chick she’s got a lot of stimulus coming at her where she’s not going to be pining by her phone for him for as long so it’s just a bit riskier to me to be passive, and 2) she DID ultimately fuck him. If she thought he was a complete beta, she wouldn’t have fucked him at all. But she fucked him and then just tried to put her frame on him…so while she doesn’t view him as super king alpha of the universe badass, she also doesn’t view him as some chump beta provider loser.
She IS testing him to see if he’ll reveal himself to be that, with the hang-up calls (he’s “supposed” to call her back immediately to find out what she wants) and the hair photos (he’s “supposed” to say she looks beautiful immediately after she sends the txt). That’s why I said ignore her call and ignore her photo…he’s actively doing the opposite of what a beta orbiter would do, which helps categorize him as “must be alpha” in her head. If he passes a few more tests, she’ll view him as alpha and he’ll get another bang where he can work her some more and probably turn her into a fuckbuddy. But those other tests will probably involve more of this “trying to get him to chase me” shit and some flaking.
The good part is that a lot of handling her tests is simply being unreactive and ignoring her, so it’s actually LESS work than actually responding to everything she does lol
The other reason I’m recommending an active reset is that he’s new and a new guy can learn a LOT about female psychology in a very short time by attempting an active reset. Like it sounds like her calling him after the “stalker” txt was a bit of a mind-fuck…that’s GOOD right now, in terms of his development. When you have more experience and really understand how women work, chilling back and passively letting her come back to you is cool, but I think it’s important to throw yourself in there (and risk fucking it up) to push your comfort zone when you’re new. Like the first time a guy tries spanking a girl and finds out she loves it and he’s like “holy shit I can’t believe they like that”, those little epiphanies from pushing your comfort zone help a guy’s development.
If she HADN’T fucked him, I would recommend a passive reset because that would mean she viewed him as so beta that she wouldn’t even fuck him. She likes him, she just has a VERY strong frame and is used to guys (esp older guys) falling into it, so she’s going to keep trying for a bit to lure him into it (phone calls and hair pics etc.) to see if she can. If he holds his frame long and strong enough, she’ll give up and accept that he’s “different” from “those other guys” and view him as legit alpha and ease up on trying to get him to fall into her frame and just accept his. Strongest frame always wins in the long run.
@Reco
“Send her a text saying stalker late at night. Just so I get the timing right. Should I do it tonight?”
Yup, that was the proper timing. The reason for night is that if you txt it at 2pm when she’s at work, it can’t go anywhere. A lot of guys make this mistake. When you txt it at night, she may be curled up in bed horny or lonely or drinking and now you get into an actual back and forth flirty exchange that builds Attraction. Sometimes it can lead to a long conversation where you can build Comfort too. All because you txted at 10pm instead of 10am.
And tonight was the time to do it because you don’t want to wait too long after she tries to get your attention. If she calls you then a week later you’re like “stalker”, that’s kind of disconnected. But if she calls you and hours later that night or the next night you call her a “stalker” she knows it’s her phone call that instigated that response. It also sub-communicates “I DO want to interact with you, but it won’t be on your terms” VS “I have no interest in interacting with you ever” which is a valid play on a girl who needs more punishment/discipline but this girl really hasn’t been THAT bad to you…she showed up for your date, she fucked you, all she’s really done “bad” is try to get you to be her sugar daddy and be young and distracted by shiny objects. So you don’t need hardcore punishment for her.
“And how did you know she was full of herself?”
It oozes out of her just from your description of the events in your Field Report lol She’s young, presumably at least average in hotness, so by default she has a ton of orbiters feeding her ego. She’s had a sugar daddy so imagine how cocky you’d be about yourself if you had women buying you new cars and shit for a year, you’d think you were king of the fucking world. She tried to get you to fall into her sugar daddy frame so she’s cocky/forward (a shy/meek/lower self-esteem polite girl would consider the sugar daddy a one-off and not try to get another guy into that frame, but this girl is cocky enough to be like “I bet I can make this one pay too!”). (on a side note, I doubt SHE instigated the sugar daddy frame with that guy, I’d almost bet money that he’s the one who instigated it by showering her with gifts and money because that’s his lame-ass “rich old guy” “game” and she just went along with it lol It’s like the song My Humps “I say no but they keep givin, so I keep on takin”). Combine all that with her txting you VERY differently from how 33yo txts you (33yo txts you qualifying herself and trying to sound lovey dovey, this one doesn’t txt you and then when she does it’s with bait to try to get you to react to her and chase her). And on top of it, you’re old and she’s young so by default she’s going to assume you want her bad because social conditioning told her old guys can’t get young girls (lol silly girl) so when you add all this shit up you get a girl who’s full of herself, and her being full of herself tells me how to handle her.
That’s why “stalker” works on her better than “nice hair” or negging with a “your hair is okay I guess”. Because both “nice hair” and “your hair is okay I guess” are reacting to her and falling into her frame. Calling her a stalker and ignoring her hair pic (until she forces a comment out of you) is shitting all over her frame and creating your own new frame that SHE has to react to. Whoever’s reacting to the other person has the lower value.
“Also I sent the whose this text about 2 hours ago to the 20yo Brazilian chick on her hang up. No response yet. I am predicting she will not respond. Maybe 5% chance of her responding. But hey you are the expert brother.”
I can’t say she’ll definitely respond ’cause it’s been a while since the hang up instead of that same night and you admit that you sent a super gay butthurt karma txt back in the day that could still be tainting her view of you (that was a super bad txt to send, it’s amazing to me that she’s dialing you at all after that, but that could mean she’s got no other options right now and is seeing what validation is still out there for her lol like maybe she just broke up with a guy), but put it this way: The approach you were going to take is like a 1% chance of getting her in bed. The “who’s this” approach is like a 10% chance. There’s nothing that’s a higher % chance, given the particular situation. lol Like, if she doesn’t respond to “who’s this” within a week or two, she wasn’t going to bang you again even if you had sent her “hi it’s so nice to hear from you how are you?” etc.
But I WOULD give it a solid week, possibly two weeks. Like, mark her number as “DO NOT TXT THIS GIRL” for a couple weeks. The reason for this is that she’s 20, so while she might not know how to react right now or be pissed at you right now for the “who’s this” (which is totally fine, it’s okay for them to feel bad emotions, they want to feel ANY emotions, that’s why they watch Twilight for the good AND bad emotions), she’s going to be drinking this weekend and next week/weekend because she’s 20 and that’s what 20yo’s do.
So when she’s tipsy and surrounded by lame beta chumps at the bar, she’s going to remember your “who’s this?” txt that’s been nagging at her (“how DARE he delete me, who does he think he is?? NO ONE deletes me!!”) and she’s going to probably try to contact you the same way your hair photo girl is where she tries to get you to react to her and chase her. It SHOULD theoretically be either this weekend or next weekend that it happens.
So that’s why I say give it 2 weeks before you conclude that it didn’t work and for the love of god do NOT txt her a follow-up txt like “oh I remember you now, hey how’s it going” or anything. No explanations no “I delete people I haven’t talked to in a while sorry” or anything. Just leave the “who’s this?” hanging in the air because it will bug the fuck out of her…’cause she still has YOUR number, so she knows instinctively that she’s made herself look low-value by having your number and contacting you when you don’t have her number anymore and have “moved on”, and instinctively she should want to correct that because she’s always higher-value than guys.
“I have not responded. 15 min later she calls me. She never initiated phone calls before.”
🙂
“She acts just like nothing ever happened.”
Yup. You act like this too. Don’t hold anything against her, she’s just running on feminine instinct and you’re too important a guy with 10 hot Playboy models at home to be bothered stewing over what some silly girl did.
“she talked about her crazy work schedule. kind of a sideways explanation of why she had been so flakey weeks ago.”
Yup that’s her way of apologizing. She won’t flat out apologize because in her world she didn’t do anything wrong, and a guy who gets butthurt over her flaking is a beta loser because he doesn’t understand that girls get a dozen invites to do shit every Friday night and that she HAS to flake on 11 of those invites to accept 1 of them. But she DOES feel bad (this also tells me she views you as higher value than a beta loser, because she wouldn’t apologize or make excuses like this to a guy she didn’t respect…your radio silence for 3 weeks told her “this is a guy you should respect because he has no problem cutting you out of his life if you act stupid”).
“Then she asked about her hair I told her I don’t see her titties. She said she did her hair not her tits. And then I laughed and she was insisting that I comment on her hair. Saying well? I said it was ok.”
lol perfect. It’s not that you can’t comment on her hair, it’s that you do it on your terms and your own time, not on hers. So she tries to get you to do something, and you might fully INTEND to do it…but you purposely refuse to do it until she gives up and then you do it when you WANT to. The end result is the same, you do it, but you did it on YOUR terms, not hers, and that’s important in terms of being an alpha male.
Also you forced some sexuality into your response with the tits thing, so ya she didn’t send titty pics right then (she may in the future shoot you a titty pic with a txt like “is THIS better” when she’s drunk/horny and you’ve been ignoring her lol but again handle that with a “good girl” and you can probably try escalating to another meet-up (with the mindset of you’re rewarding her with a chance to fuck you because she tried to please you) at that point because at that point she’s chasing your validation but she may flake on that on principle so it wouldn’t hurt to let her chase a few more times before you let her meet up with you again).
But you’re setting the frame that your guys’ interaction is sexual. You aren’t her gay BFF saying “omg babe I luv ur hair!!!” That’s not your role. You’re the badass older father figure man who fucks her like the dirty girl she is. So dropping these little sexual comments/frames is important to her overall view of you.
Like I can compliment a girl on her hair in a super gay beta way, but it’s different when I do it compared to when a beta orbiter does it because my compliment is couched between a bunch of sexual shit that separates me from that other guy, who never does anything sexual and has no dick to her.
“We talked some more and she was slurring her words she probably had been out drinking.”
lol probably. Thus the txting her late at night VS 2pm in the afternoon. It’s not that she has to be drunk for game to “work”, it’s that there’s a much higher % chance that she’s in a horny receptive attention-needing mood than she is sober in the middle of the afternoon and she’s more likely to slip up and accidentally chase you, putting her in the chasing frame which by default means you must be the higher-value one and it all just helps re-enforce your alpha value.
“And she got a little excited and said I was mean. Then it got silent and she said I am waiting. Like I was supposed to apologize. Big time shit test. And I was having to erase 50 years of indoctrination and think on my feet.
She said I am waiting again. I can see how she has really good frame control. I laughed and said good night. And she said what your not going to apologize that hurt my feelings. I said you need to lighten up. She said it hurt her feelings again. It got silent again and then I said good night. She said really and we hung up.”
Beauuuuuuuuutiful. If I knew how to make applause emoticons on here I would send 3 rows of them. You did perfect here.
She kept trying to put you in her frame and you refused to bend and stuck to your frame that she was being silly. You let awkward silences hang with no fucks given, you lol’ed at her, you ignored her crocodile tears (she was not hurt at ALL…she gave ZERO fucks, that was completely just to see if she could get you to apologize for something you aren’t even in the wrong about…how many whipped loser husbands are out there apologizing to their wives when they know they were in the right? SO fucking many. You demonstrated that you’re not one of those losers).
And the best part is you ended the phone call by saying “good night” in the middle of her waiting for you to apologize lol. Beautiful. The only thing I’d’ve done different is literally hang up on her in the middle of her saying her feelings were hurt but that would only be because that’s funny to me (because she’s being silly and her feelings aren’t ACTUALLY hurt) and I like to make her react to me.
But you handled that perfectly. The indication that it was perfect was her “really” when you said “good night”. She’s mind-blown and flabberghasted that you would do that. So she’s like “really? seriously?? you’re not going to apologize?? wtf fuck you” but deep down her brain is registering “ok this dude is alpha as fuck” and she’s seeing you as more and more badass alpha.
“Sure didn’t feel like any kind of success.”
No it was TONS of success. It was beautiful. You just have to view the world from her eyes instead of yours to register what a success that was lol To YOU there’s no real progress made because you’re no closer to your P physically being in her V than you were a couple days ago. But in girl-world, to HER, that was some epic shit that just went down and her view of you is changing from “possible beta in alpha clothing that I can strong-arm into my sugar daddy frame” to “frustrating alpha that I can’t seem to control and for some reason that turns me on and makes me want to try harder to control him until, if he continues shitting on my frames like this, I just decide he’s alpha as fuck and bang his brains out and consider myself lucky for the chance TO bang his brains out”.
“But damn she is a fighter.”
My fav type of girl lol The thing is I know this sounds like a lot of fucking work and a lot of juggling and a lot to learn…but once you DO learn and internalize a lot of it (going from conscious competence to unconscious competence) it’s effortless and natural to handle these situs and this energy and these frame battles.
Like while I was typing this, I got 3 txts from a fuckbuddy who’s been flakey lately. It doesn’t even OCCUR to me to stop typing to read those txt. They’ve been sitting there unread for 10 minutes now. I WILL read them, but it’ll be when I’m done typing this up because she’s been flakey so I’m not even consciously punishing her, I’m just literally less interested in responding to her quickly. Like responding to her has gone down my list of priorities behind “typing this shit up for reco” because she’s been flakey. So the end result is I am subtly punishing her with some radio silence for being flakey, but I’m not really consciously doing it because I’ve been doing all this long enough that it’s literally changed my mindsets to “a girl who flakes isn’t a high priority to me until she stops flaking”. So it’s effortless for me.
Meanwhile back in the day, esp when I first started (and hell even now sometimes if I meet a legit awesome chick I like), I’ll be checking her txts the second my phone lights up lol
Anyway good luck, you’re doing awesome. I see no reason you won’t bang both the 33yo (within a week or two ’cause she likes you and her personality is sweet and she’s a little worried she’s fucked things up) and this 26yo hair chick (probably within a month or so, she’ll take a bit longer ’cause she’s going to test you some more before she decides you’re alpha enough to chase you).
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@reco
Bigass in-depth reply in mod, give it some time to show up. The short of it is you’re doing awesome and this is all going according to plan even if it doesn’t seem like it lol My explanation will explain what’s going on and why you’re actually making more progress than you realize.
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So at 6:30 this morning I get this text:
Her: That was so classless of u to say, callin me names like a druggie?….im sry i took meds that i am prescribed. “Druggies” are the people that give people like me a bad name by taking medication they actually NEED. Are cancer patients “druggies” too bcuz they are prescribed THC? Or does that make them a pothead as well?? I actually called to tell u some good news but i felt shot down & once my feelings were hurt, the obnoxious crackling & laughing was a bit rude and uncalled for,(i was a bit much.reallummmm,) so i chose not to deliver my news…… 6:34 AM
Her: Really** 6:35 AM
Her: It* 6:36 AM
I did not respond. There was not a lot of laughing. I did chuckle a little during some of the pregnant pauses, which I knew I should not have done, but I was trying to keep it light and not too serious. Also I remember she takes Lunesta for sleep so maybe that is why she was slurring a little.
I think she is surprised that I am not falling for her shit. And maybe my frame was not strong but I did hold my ground. And this has got her flustered. She is trying to bait me with some mythical good news which I am not going to bite on. I am predicting that she will continue to contact me with more frequency and detail.
I am waiting on your long reply. Some crazy shit but there was some progress.
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@reco: You wrote:
“”Her: That was so classless of u to say, callin me names like a druggie?….im sry i took meds that i am prescribed. “Druggies” are the people that give people like me a bad name by taking medication they actually NEED. Are cancer patients “druggies” too bcuz they are prescribed THC?””
Wow…I’m reliving my last year with the crazy ex gf.
I got similar run bizarre shaming attempts. It’s classic Cluster B manipulative behaviours.
The reality is the best thing you can do is slowly disengage. Not be available, don’t make it too dramatic because she may amp up the drama.
YaReally will echo this because he instilled in me, you’ve got to let this one go and walk away. Leave it for some time until she demonstrates she’s changed or after a sufficient period of time has passed.
What you have that she wants is attention. She will get that any way she can: banging you, calling/texting you, shaming/guilting you….rewarding/praising you.
But it’s all a mind-fuck.
I think she may have seen in you a people pleasing nice guy who’s older and more mature so that’s attractive. Also, since you’re married, you’re taken, so she chases. When you become available or she thinks you’re available she backs off.
It’s a weird pattern of behavior that is best explained elsewhere suffice to say cutting it off and backing the fuck off is your best strategy.
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@reco
lol whoops, your druggie tease caught a personal sore spot trigger with her. No biggie, just a fluke event. In the future in general there are better pet names to call her than druggie anyway so take it as a lesson to use a safer nickname like her like being your little bar star or calling her white girl wasted (term the young’uns use these days lol) etc. Like where you’re kind of complimenting her and teasing her…no one thinks a druggie is cool but being called party girl or bar star etc. can be taken as a “lol I totally am”
All good tho, just hold your frame. Strongest frame wins. Ignore everything she wrote, she’s trying to goad you into a discussion/argument which she’ll win by default simply because you’re entering her frame by even entertaining it.
Your mindset right now should be “lol no you’re overreacting, I didn’t do anything to apologize for, you’re being silly, and I’m already moving on to the next topic”. She’s NOT actually hurt or sad or crying herself to sleep lol it’s all bullshit.
So the only part of that that you respond to is the part that moves the interaction forward. Her bit at the end says “so i chose not to deliver my news”
You know she’s dying to tell you her big news and all that other stuff is just nonsense trying to pick a fight. So you shoot back something like:
“lol ok whats your news”
No question mark or anything. The lol is just to show that you’re bemused by her whole spaz-out and then you go right into a diff topic.
She’ll prooooobably try to make you work for the news and write back something like “i’m not telling you now im mad at you you’re really a jerk you know”
And you just reply “ok” and ignore any txts she sends until late tonight or tomorrow night lol
This is all just showing that you refuse to fall into her frame and that you’re not attached to whether she likes you or not and that if she won’t tell you the news like a normal human being then you’re okay with that because you have 10 Playboy models at home telling you the news.
Instinctively it frustrates her but in a “why can’t I control this guy???” way that will lead to sex.
I allllllllmost want to say that you could shoot an “ok you can tell me your news in person. 7pm at Restaurant. Wear heels.” but I feel like it might be sliiiiiightly too soon. I’m honestly 50/50 on it. I think you could shoot that and if she’s like “are you fucking kidding?? i hate you now” then just be like “lol ok” and radio silence through the weekend (she’ll get drunk and txt you)
…fuck it, I would do that. Scratch the “tell me your news”, go with this:
Her: “(big rant) i was going to tell you my news…”
You: “ok you can tell me your news in person. 7pm at Restaurant. Wear heels.”
And if she puts up a fuss just go “lol ok” and do radio silence till Monday (unless she txts you late at night on the weekend and then just allow her to come over to your hotel and bang her).
There’s a good chance she’ll flake, like “no way im mad at you not till you apologize”, so don’t actually EXPECT to meet up tonight lol…you’re kind of throwing out a half-bluff because the part that’s really going to hit her is when you respond “lol ok” to her stirring up a fuss. THAT’S the no-fucks-given alpha part that’s going to make her txt you drunk on the weekend to bang.
Make sense? 🙂 Again you’re doing great here, ignore all the nonsense she wrote. White Knights Feminists and Blue Pill’ers will think I’m a cad but that’s because they haven’t fucked girls like this. 😉
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@reco
Here’s a good video of an example of you and the 26yo and your “fight”:
She raises a fuss and flutters and gives him no end of shit but he gives zero fucks and plows through it because he KNOWS it’s all nonsense and she’s being silly. When he’s like “start cookin” and she’s like “hahaha you want me to COOK for you???” and he’s just like “yup. take your hair down by the way.” and just keeps leading.
This girl’s “what about cancer patients are they druggies you hurt my feelings” is the part where he’s rooting thru her closet. And this girl’s “you want me to COOK for you???” is the type of response you’ll probably get to sending her “ok you can tell me your news tonight. 7pm at Restaurant. Wear heels.”. But follow his lead and give no fucks.
There’s a whole lotta’ Red Pill in that video lol
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@reco
Also keep in mind that this is all calibrated to the 26yo’s personality type specifically, because you’ve written solid field reports that make it easy to tell what type of girl she is and how to deal with her.
If this were your 33yo txting you that she’s hurt about the druggie comment and sending you that big long rant and the news hint and everything, you would handle it softer, like you might actually saw “aw, my bad. I meant to call you my little (some in-joke reference the two of you have). Tell me your good news, babe.” because she’s probably more legitimately “hurt” because she has a “sweeter” personality and isn’t as bratty and cocky. 33yo is a bit lower self-esteem than 26yo (not to where it’s an issue like a hardcore LSE chick but she’s not as full of herself is all, so you treat her with a bit more kid-gloves than 26yo who can take a “beating”).
26yo is full of herself and full of shit and trying to get you to react and fall into her frame like all the other guys around her, so you be a little more authoritative and assholish to her, because she loves it.
Calibration is extremely important. That’s why you can’t learn to be a player sitting in your parent’s basement not going out…you have to actually interact with a bunch of different personality types to learn all these little calibration nuances to be consistently good at this, ya know?
And again, I promise this gets easier lol and more fun. 😉
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@reco
“so i chose not to deliver my news……”
On a side note I always find it cute as fuck when a girl dangles a carrot that she THINKS has a ton of value in front of me when she has no idea it has absolutely no value at all to me. It’s like a little kid going “now you don’t get to play with my Legos!!” Like oh noes!!!! What will I do??? But you know she thinks it’s a big deal and all the other guys around her would be treating it as such.
But to you it’s just a girl being girly and cute and it makes you lol to tell her “ok you’re right you probably shouldn’t tell me your news” and watch her hamster spin. 🙂 Then if you were in person you can do a pull-her-in “awww ok come here babe, tell me your news.” as you kiss her on the head and just treat her like the silly little girl she is.
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When in doubt act like an old school Mick and you’ll be straight.
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Ok I sent the text to tell me the news tonight and wear heals about an hour ago. No reply yet. I have another question.
There is a lot of talk on here about making sure that your girl knows about other girls to create that competition anxiety. Should I start playing that up with this one? If so how do I do that? I used to always turn my phone off when we were in the room together my phone goes off a lot for work and some friends. I am thinking I should leave it on. Let it buzz a lot.
Pick it up every once in a while and check it. Make a smirk. Etc. Then if she asked who is it? Just say no one. And go back and kiss her. What do you think? Is this predicting and having a plan? Is the plan any good?
Also my 20YO never responded to the whose this? text from last night. I have doubts about here. But will wait and see.
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@reco
“There is a lot of talk on here about making sure that your girl knows about other girls to create that competition anxiety. Should I start playing that up with this one? If so how do I do that? I used to always turn my phone off when we were in the room together my phone goes off a lot for work and some friends. I am thinking I should leave it on. Let it buzz a lot.
Pick it up every once in a while and check it. Make a smirk. Etc. Then if she asked who is it? Just say no one. And go back and kiss her. What do you think? Is this predicting and having a plan? Is the plan any good?”
that’s your plan…predicting = what do you think will happen when you do that…? observe the interaction…were you right?
try it and see…fly little birdy, fly…lol…
also, the reason behind YaReally’s “lego” idea, is that she thinks her news is important to you is because it is important to her… so given her expectation of your beta frame it should be important to you too (and to any other beta orbiter…) but it’s not important to you (which shows your alpha attitude “how cute…you think i care about inconsequential details in your life that have no relation to my using you for sexual adventures…’) … she just doesn’t know this yet…
note – her news IS important to all those beta orbiters BECAUSE it’s important to her…they don’t really give a shit, they just think that by showing that she is important to them, that she will drop her panties for them…lol…
good luck…
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@YaReally – analysis at 5:33 am
i agree…the fact that he wasn’t a true ‘beta orbiter’ was a factor, but when he started, i wasn’t sure he was going to be able to stay dark for 2 days, much less a week…lol…but he’s made tremendous progress and is working hard…
@reco
fly, little birdy, fly…lol…
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@reco
homework assignment…if you have time between allll your spinning plates…lol…
do an analysis on Anonymous at May 6 at 5:37 pm…see what you think…
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Wow just fucking wow! This is truly amazing. Even if I don’t get the bang. What I have learned is priceless. Any betas or amatures out there reading this. Drink deep you are getting lots of value. The value I am getting is immeasurable. Because of that I am going to make a significant donation to this free site. I suggest others do is also. Recognize when something is worth it and act a accordingly.
@yareally one point of clarification. The 26yo HB9 was some one I was involved with before the 22yo Latina HB7 I fucked last week with the BMW. I was working on her before you got involved. She was someone I met and we were having lots of sex for about two months as my frame slowly slid into the shitter. Making her harder and harder to deal with. Until I just had to go silent with her. She is really hot. She works as a promotional model and also has done a couple of magazines. So she actually gets paid some for her looks. So that made me even more needy. also to round out the context. When I was with her I was doing a lot of beta/choade behaviors like spending money on her. Meals gifts etc. I know now that didn’t help. Interesting thing about her was she never asked me for money. It was my own neediness that made me do that shit. But not anymore.
I cannot thank you enough guys. So far this afternoon. None of my girls has responded to me.
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@reco
My big reply is out of mod. Sweet. Give it a read it’s a bit back in this big wall of comments we have going lol
@walawala
The dif between his situ and yours and the reason for my did advice to you both is that his girl is young and it’s their first meet or two basically and he’s not invested at all. She hasn’t had enough time to demo clusterB shit yet, she’s just being a normal girl
In your situ the girl was older and you guys had a lot more history together and you were deeply invested in her, so for her to treat you that way that far into a relationship is more clusterB than just standard girl drama and you were invested enough in her for her shit to be detrimentally affecting your mental health, whereas reco sees this one as more of just a curious puzzle he’s poking at to see what happens.
Now if he got this girl and 5 months from now she was still having crazy mood swings and start huge fights/drama I would label her clusterB and warn him to be careful esp if he sounded like he was getting too close to her.
For you the huge Soft Next wasn’t just to teach her a lesson, it was to give you space from her “spell” so you could get your own headspace right.
Now you’ll (justifiably) have some PTSD clusterB residue where a girl who gives any kind of drama is an instant “fuck this I’m out!” for you but that’s to be expected and you’ll recover in time and be able to dabble a bit while keeping a safe distance. It’s like you didn’t realize a python could bite until it bit you…not all pythons will bite you and you’ll probably avoid them for a bit to be sure, but in time you’ll be able to feed a python and just use caution and be prepared to self-preserve. 🙂
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Ok you won’t believe what happened. I was busy working.and I got this call. Did not recognized the number. I answered and chick says did you call me? I said no. She then said something about a roofing company. But she did not sound like she was from a roofing company. I said it must have been an accidental dial.
So then we hung up and I started thinking. She sounded familiar. Sure enough it was the 20yo Brazilian chick! And I checked my phone there was no outbound call to her.
So what do you think I should do? She is full of shit I never called her number. She called me and acted like I called her.
Should I text her again? With the who is calling me?
This is crazy.
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Ok more questions. But there seems to be so much shit going on all of a sudden. I did not expect the 26YO and the 20YO to contact me all out of the blue with the hangups. So that added a lot of plates and complex stuff to the mix.
This thread is getting really long and cumbersome. So I am going to ask my next questions on the new post.
Thanks brothers.
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Well here’s one that probably got poached off this blog at some point: I’m at a bar with a group and one of my friends sees a guy she knows and introduces me. He talks to everyone briefly and says he has to jet to meet up w friends. He looks at me and says “I’m going to x and you should come with me now.” Of course I laugh and say some variant of “oh really? I don’t think so”. And as he walks by to leave he whispers in my ear “I think we both know you’ll have my **** in your mouth by the end of the night.”
All of this took place in five minutes, max. No I didn’t go. But….
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but…?
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But it was kind of hot. I admit it. He could pull it off. Granted, whispering any kind of order or something aggressive in my ear is almost paralyzing (to me) but I bet I’m not that unusual. The point of the story is that I should have wanted to slap him, but I didn’t. Now you’ll say this isn’t effective because I didn’t go with him, but I have a high ASD. A girl with an average one, well… I think it could work.
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gentlemen, are you paying attention?
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Sounds about like what I was expecting after the “but…”
That said, what is “ASD”? Anti-social disorder (I think I just made that up, but maybe I am not and just remembering it from some foggy conversation)?
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anti-slut defense. it’s a jargony term for natural female coyness.
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@Burninator: Anti-slut defense. So while I admit I had a… physical reaction to him, I also had a voice in my head saying “Wtf, why would he say that to you. He thinks you’re a slut and has no respect for you.” That voice is loud and it wins.
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but the physical reaction is a prerequisite to later defeating that inner ASD voice. it’s a show of progress to even get to the point where that voice is being activated.
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Thanks. Still learning some of this terminology and the acronyms throw me off at times.
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CH: “but the physical reaction is a prerequisite to later defeating that inner ASD voice. it’s a show of progress to even get to the point where that voice is being activated.”
I totally agree. In fact I think the faster you can get a girl in this state, the easier it’s going to be to override the ASD, because we have no time in a “pre-aroused” state to think about it and anticipate it. He just went right to the point where I’m not thinking clearly.
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@Amy so if you didn’t go after a “50 Shades” moment like that, would more “comfort” have done it?
Seems kind of a waste that he said that in the “Apolocalypse Opener” style, then left.
I’ve done this on different occasions or surprised girls with a sudden out of the blue alpha move.
Once the buying temperature cools, the guy just becomes another guy or is there something that would seal the deal?
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@Amy
If he had been just slightly smoother at disarming your ASD you’d’ve sucked his cock in a bathroom just like all the dirty stupid bar sluts you think game only works on lol
Thanks for the demo that what a girl says about what would work and how shit actually plays out in reality when she’s attracted are not the same thing. ❤
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@ YaReally
“If he had been just slightly smoother at disarming your ASD you’d’ve sucked his cock in a bathroom just like all the dirty stupid bar sluts you think game only works on”
What would you have altered/added.
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Lol here we go. I wondered when you’d be by to remind me I’m a bar skank at heart. Because you NEVER get turned down for blowjobs at the VIP tables, right? They all kneel down for your miraculous charm. And if they don’t… they must suck in bed anyway. Lol
I know it burns, but I’ve shot down guys who are hotter, smoother, and a lot more interesting than you. And I don’t blow random guys in public bathrooms. Sorry.
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^That’s for Yareally, our club-slut maker extraordinaire
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@thrust
She said “I also had a voice in my head saying “Wtf, why would he say that to you. He thinks you’re a slut and has no respect for you.””
So if he had convinced her that she earned him saying it to her by some unique quality she has (basically qualifying her on something and letting her pass a few tests and “impress” him so she feels he wants her for her intellect or vibe or sense or humor etc instead of just for sex) and convinced her he wouldn’t judge her as a slut and this he has respect for her, boom. He’d have created the right circumstances for her to be just as slutty as any other girl.
Like I say there’s no madonna/whore. It comes down to opportunity and creating the right circumstances for a girl to let her whore side out. Amy is already rationalizing that she’s too much of a Madonna to actually do it but it might work on those Whores but that’s just hamster rationalization bullshit because buddy’s game wasn’t tight/calibrated enough to properly disarm her ASD. She views it as her having amazing resolve but the reality is that he simply didn’t calibrate properly and flip the right switched for her
But if he had, we can all tell she would have been his Whore. That’s why we’re all lol’ing Amy, because we know what your “but…” means better than you do. 🙂
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@thrust
My reply is in mod but when it shows up, combine it with the My Boss Michael analogy at the start of this vid (it should be clear how the analogy relates to my explanation in terms of removing consequences/worries/etc in disarming her ASD):
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“Thanks for the demo that what a girl says about what would work and how shit actually plays out in reality when she’s attracted are not the same thing.”
Not sure what you’re going off about here, yareally.
She gave a pretty emotionally honest account of what did happen in reality. You’re the one doing the “what would work” theorizing.
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> “But it was kind of hot. I admit it. He could pull it off.”
Okay, Amy, assuming that you really are who you claim to be, and that you’re not just some fat pasty manboobed jewboy, hacking away on the internet from the cozy confines of his mother’s basement, SERIOUS QUESTION:
Do you ever pause and step back and try to see the big picture and realize that some day you’re going to be a mother?
And how devastating it would be to your children to learn that their mother was [and is] an utterly worthless whore of a cunt?
Have you toyed with the idea of learning to fake some dignity?
For the children’s sake?
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@Jeff
“The point of the story is that I should have wanted to slap him”
what chicks think they’ll do
“but I didn’t.”
what they actually do in reality.
“Now you’ll say this isn’t effective because I didn’t go with him, but I have a high ASD. A girl with an average one, well… I think it could work.”
her hamster separating her from “whores” to keep up the pretense that she’s cut from a different cloth than other girls, to try to boost her own SMV up to impress around here so the commenters here don’t just categorize her as a “bar sloot” and ignore everything she says.
reality is she was just a bit of tight game away from acting like the “girl with an average one” she pretends to be more chaste than.
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@Zombie: “And how devastating it would be to your children to learn that their mother was [and is] an utterly worthless whore of a cunt?”
Why, because I was aroused by this guy? Are you serious? It’s basically a biological reaction. This is a GOOD thing, as long as the girl keeps herself in check. In case you missed it, I kept myself in check.
I don’t understand why guys like you have so much trouble with fantasy vs. reality. It’s not what you think about doing, it’s what you DO (or don’t do) that counts.
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i have no problem with this comment. amy’s right. what point is there in railing futilely against unalterable female sexual nature as if it is something that can or should be magically waved away? she had the feeling, she resisted it. it would be like cursing a married man for getting an involuntary boner at the sight of a nubile teen girl.
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Best thing about this thread is witnessing YaReally almost inadvertently gaming Amy. You can tell she’s sweet on him.
Amy loves YaReallllly, Amy loves YaReallllly
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“All of this took place in five minutes, max. No I didn’t go. But….”
dat 5 minutes of alpha
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No I didn’t go. But…
She’s still thinking about it… and him… (Bet she’s smiling at the thought…)
Over the years I have come to firmly believe that ALL women are submissive if they are honest with themselves, and the reason so many are unhappy is because they fight against what they want, and what is natural. So the more responsibility they have at work, the more unhappy they are, and the more they want to submit in their personal life. More than a few women act like Stallions when you first try to saddle them, fighting against it. So when you break them, you are the only one they allow to ride them, because they are happy that YOU broke them.
I suspect this is why so many women cheat on their BF and hubbies – they don’t see him as her “owner” because he has never really staked his claim that “this woman is mine”. So when a man clearly stakes his claim to her – he owns her, heart, body, and soul. Of course, that is just my perspective – it seems to work for me, and that is all I care about. Hey – it’s just a theory, but it explains all of the observables, so I’ll stick with it for the nonce. And it’ll really piss-off the Femi-Nazi’s… 🙂
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“Over the years I have come to firmly believe that ALL women are submissive if they are honest with themselves.”
Of course. It cracks me up that a book like “50 shades” comes out and sells a trillion copies, yet everyone’s still in denial. I think I’m the only female in America who hasn’t read that book. I don’t need to read it, I live it. Like most things it’s better in real life.
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“She’s still thinking about it… and him… (Bet she’s smiling at the thought…)”
Amy gonna cheat.
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You’re one of two who hasn’t read it 🙂 I’m gircotting on principle. I also refuse to read the new Bridget Jones since it kills off Mark Darcy and makes her single again. Anything that glorifies being the head of a fatherless family is NOT on my reading list.
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@Amy: Like most things it’s better in real life.
:twisted If you do it right….
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Drats. Let’s see if this one works…
😈
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@Amy
he’s in your social circle now, right? he’s just ‘priming the pump…’ …so to speak…
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@walawala: he had to leave, maybe he would have stuck around if he didn’t have plans. I think there’s a much greater possibility of success if you stick around because you’re right, I think you’d have to establish comfort. Like I said before, that kind of immediate crude sexual escalation made my ASD spike high (omg he thinks I’m a slut!) but… at the same time it worked, I’m hot and bothered. I think if he’d stuck around, got me alone, backtracked a little (“I just say whatever’s on my mind, sorry about that but it WAS on my mind”) but was still an alpha guy, who knows. I’m anti-ONS. I’m sure I would’ve given him my number and returned his txts though. Lol.
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@Amy
“”I just say whatever’s on my mind, sorry about that but it WAS on my mind”
I’m learning a lot from this post..i think it deserves one on its own.
I will use this minus the “sorry”
I just say whatever’s on my mind and THAT was on my mind.
or
I can’t help myself…I just say whatever’s on my mind….
without qualifying myself, I think that works better.
I’ve k-closed a girl and shocked her and she’s asked: “Why did you do that!???”
Me: I felt like it.
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I usually comment under a different name here but since my GF reads this blog occasionally, I have to comment under this one.
So last weekend we had a falling out, almost leading to a break up. I changed my mind after all and the first thing that I felt like doing was fucking her. When I was balls deep inside her, I said “You want me to spit in your mouth?” She said yes and so I did. Almost immediately I could feel her getting wetter.
I thought I was imagining things but later she told me that she almost came when I did it. So I wasn’t just imagining things…..
(btw, I also did the ass to mouth thing. Srsly, women are really submissive.)
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well played – I’ve never done ATM – that’s the grand slam IMO.
Spitting in her mouth – spitting on her face – spit on the pussy – spit in the pussy.
It’s all good.
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@Amy …ok Serious question….the guy you were introduced to was a friend of a friend…wasn’t the fact that he was in that social circle a reason why you balked?
I’ve made similar moves and got the same reaction.
I once told a girl: “You shouldn’t wear white?”
Her: Why not?
Me: I makes me want to fuck you…
Her: well, that’s not my business…
but she was beaming and smiling. She didn’t run away.
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@Wala: No. ASD is not just what everyone else thinks of me. It’s part of it, but it’s also what I think of me. It’s about how I’m going to feel about myself. It’s not even a moral issue necessarily, it’s a pain-avoidance issue. I don’t like to feel like shit, so I try to avoid situations where I’m probably going to.
It doesn’t matter for your purposes though. You only care about getting around it, not where it comes from. The mystery-stranger “my friends will never find out” or “he’ll never see me again” factor is definitely helpful in disabling the “reputation” part of ASD but it doesn’t crack the internal part that dictates how youll feel the next day. That internal ASD is gameable but the strength of it varies from girl to girl, despite what Yareally says. Any real player knows that.
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“That internal ASD is gameable but the strength of it varies from girl to girl, despite what Yareally says.”
lol of course, you’re not like those easy slutty girls, you’re DIFFERENT. Just like that guy’s one-itis is DIFFERENT. NAWALT, don’t you know!
You admit the dude turned you on. Slightly more game from him calibrated to your very common and not at all unique and special personal ASD and you would’ve boned him. You’re trying to convince guys that hitting a ball 10 feet is much harder than hitting it 9 feet lol it’s all the same shit except in your head where you can keep telling yourself 10 feet is better than 9 feet and cater to the audience here who would dismiss your opinions if they thought you were the same as 9 feet.
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“You admit the dude turned you on. Slightly more game from him calibrated to your very common and not at all unique and special personal ASD and you would’ve boned him.”
Not that night and not in the bar bathroom. Lol it’s so ludicrous how you come on here and pretend that with enough game you can get ANY girl to do ANYTHING. You’re totally full of shit. But hey, let’s test it out. How about you go out tonight and try to game some random college chick into having sex with you on the bar while everyone watches. Since all girls are indiscriminate whores, and you’re da man, this shouldn’t be too hard, right? Report back on how you do. Better yet… we know how much you love to show other guys’ game vids… film it, so we can see one of your own.
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“Report back on how you do. Better yet… we know how much you love to show other guys’ game vids… film it, so we can see one of your own.”
Compliance test?
in any case, I’ll stay tuned for the video
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Good choice of a series, CH. Theory is good, but examples demonstrate and inspire.
This reminds me of how I always teach women to talk dirty in bed. I tell them what they should beg for and say about themselves, and they dutifully repeat it. They are often surprised that a guy is talking during sex at all; apparently many guys are completely silent and feel embarrassed if forced to talk. I had a girlfriend who was so turned on by saying dirty things about herself that she told me from now on she would need the dirty talk always to spice things up. I had “ruined” her for ordinary sex. Just for fun I kept silent once, and she wouldn’t have it, it was too boring. After we broke up, I wonder how her next boyfriend handled that.
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I’d handle it with a gag ball.
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Dirty talk isn’t for everyone, I guess. Oh well. For some, silence is golden.
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Quite possible her next boyfriend loved talking dirty and was overjoyed that someone took the time to teach his new gf how to properly beg for his cum lol.
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MOA…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2618266/EXCLUSIVE-Heartbroken-father-claims-married-daughter-32-driven-suicide-death-dance-cult-leader-sex-slave-plied-mind-bending-drugs.html
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From CH’s Twitter feed: “counterpoint: math never got anyone laid “
Reminds me of A Beautiful Mind, where Russel Crowe plays the Nobel Prize-winning mathematician John Nash. He is dating a girl and says:
“I don’t exactly know what I am required to say in order for you to have intercourse with me. But could we assume that I said all that. I mean essentially we are talking about fluid exchange right? So could we go just straight to the sex?”
And:
” I find you attractive. Your aggressive moves toward me… indicate that you feel the same way. But still, ritual requires that we continue with a number of platonic activities… before we have sex. I am proceeding with these activities, but in point of actual fact, all I really want to do is have intercourse with you as soon as possible.”
And for good effect, applying some math in game:
“If we all go for the blonde and block each other, not a single one of us is going to get her. So then we go for her friends, but they will all give us the cold shoulder because no on likes to be second choice. But what if none of us goes for the blonde? We won’t get in each other’s way and we won’t insult the other girls. It’s the only way to win. It’s the only way we all get laid.”
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Let’s you and him fight:
http://metro.co.uk/2014/05/05/kerr-pow-billionaires-brawl-media-moguls-pictured-in-beachside-punch-up-over-orlando-blooms-ex-wife-4718893/
Game is worth more than all your riches.
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22yo HB10 FR continued:
(after 2 days of radio silence):
Me (3:25 PM): hey dork r u on a boat
HB10 (3:24 PM) (she was apparently texting me at the same time): Hey [my name] want to chill tonight? Can I stay over?
Me: Yes.
#epicwinning
yes iphone actually shows her message below mine with an earlier time…never seen that before
after 2 days of radio silence we decided to text each other at the same moment in time, so that means she is “The One,” right Tilikum?
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..different time zone??
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update:
Me: 8 pm
HB10: for sure… can you pick me up in the [neighborhood]?
Me: at ur moms house lol? should I bring a dozen roses?
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@Grim great text exchange
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hell yeah bro ring it up! lol.
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> “so that means she is “The One,” right Tilikum?”
I wouldn’t joke about that shit.
If there’s a voice in the back of your head which is telling you that she’s The One, then listen to that voice and PUT SOME BUNS IN HER OVEN.
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hey thats what I said too!!
what could go wrong Shane!
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> “what could go wrong Shane!”
Everything.
Welcome to being a Dad.
Now deal with it.
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hummmmmmmm……what did the Buddhist monk say for his order at the hotdog stand…”I want one with everything”…..uhummmmmmmmm
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..the NBA is less popular than NASCAR at the moment…
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And NHL attendance is now higher than NBA.
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Oh wow look, more attempts to justify female infidelity:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-haisha/is-it-time-to-change-our-adultery_b_5242171.html
Notice how these articles are always written by older (presumably single or loveless marriage-ites) women.
…
Starting to become all connected.
It’s a fact that traditional marriages are best for kids and the well-being of the spouses.
Yet, the judicial system has fucked marriage; feminists are in the process of fucking marriage. Shit, as time goes on the grooms in marriage pictures are usually the epitome of a smiling beta with a ‘past-her-prime’ 30 year old fatty.
And of course, these middling SMV women are fighting to have their cake and eat it too — beta bux, and alpha fux on the side. ‘Polyamory.’
I feel like I owe someone a coke. Maybe there’s something to this ‘waging war on all things beautiful’ business….
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“Maybe the tenets of a successful marriage should not be whether the couple stays monogamous for decades, but rather whether the couple openly communicates about what their unique marriage will look like, what will be deemed acceptable and what will not, and then honoring that joint decision”
Right, because we all know how much women are susceptible to direct and open communication about the logistics of relationships.
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this “open communication” strategy sound great on paper but would never work in real life because the logical ego is defenseless against the emotional id.
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Explicating rules comes from a place of weakness. Implying rules through solid, strong action comes from a place of strength.
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it works for me
I’ve said that shit before come up with your own idea of perfect relationship make it happen
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LOL. The only women that want open relationships are women that are in relationships to beta providers. If they thought for one second that the beta could score ass it would be off the table.
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welcome to the dark side…..it’s always just a matter of time.
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They look saddled and gagged. And possibly with child.
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Haha, a lot of the stuff on here is golden. And it helps in real life!
I went on facebook, found a girl that had a crush on me a few years ago in college. (I’m 22.) Exchanged maybe 20 words total when I knew her. I messaged her out of the blue, “In retrospect, we totally should’ve fucked back at GHC.” Everything boys are taught says that I should’ve gotten curse words back, an insult, and/or been blocked.
She replied back, “Hahaha, seriously??”
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> “She replied back, “Hahaha, seriously??”
Well, no, secretly I was fucking our totally hot English 101 Graduate Teaching Assistant at the time. Worked my grade up from a C+ to a solid A-, so that I could get into law school. But now that you aren’t jailbait anymore, I might reconsider.
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CH, do you plan a post on the young man who boldly proclaimed he’d never apologize for his white male privilege? It’s a shiv which has caused tremendous outrage in The Cathedral. I read a Salon.com response for shits and giggles.
http://time.com/85933/why-ill-never-apologize-for-my-white-male-privilege/
Twist: He’s not even white; he’s a Jew.
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Then it’s not so much of a “twist” as it is a “get out of jail free card”.
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What dirt bag Moise.
He ain’t even white! He’s got a whole set of handshakes and nudges and winks to enjoy.
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I’m going to start tackling them in public when their inane conversations grate on the nerves.
Still, thanks — that’s going in the Book of Moves.
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o/t
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10812129/Cambridge-graduate-describes-sex-predator-husband-jailed-for-life-as-kind-and-sensitive.html
“despite the shocking details of self-confessed drug taker and adulterer Thompson’s crimes, Mrs Ford-Thompson mouthed “I love you” and “stay strong” to him throughout the nine-day trial.
After a jury convicted him of nine sex offences including kidnap, rape and attempted rape, she said: “He is a sensitive, kind, soft, gentle man.
“I have known him for ten years, he is my best friend. I will stand by him through all of this. They have taken my husband away from me. He is not the man they are making him out to be.”
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Well, I have my takeway comment for the day. Zombie Shane says he doesn’t think he has been with a girl who could take even three fingers in her snatch. Really? Vaginas come that tight? If I ever had one that tight, it was so long ago I can’t remember. That explains why so many people like vaginal sex, as opposed to anal.
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I noticed one common thread between the original MoA and the stories broadsman and immoralgables told – they all involved women they were already sleeping with. We can assume that they’d already created attraction and comfort, then.
This sort of pseudo-violence could definitely work when you’re already in some sort of relationship with a woman. Before you have sex with them, though? I bet it could easily backfire.
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I choke/slap/etc girls on the first bang. But I do a loooooooot of sexual comfort building via txt first. I wouldn’t recommend newbies try it, there’s a lot that can go wrong if you’re still learning congruent alpha behavior and she smokes out some incongruency and decides what you did was rape instead of consensual cause she would never let a beta slap her around like that.
But down the road it’s entirely possible to do this stuff on the first lay. I prefer to wait till the 2nd lay just to make sure she’s not crazy but if she responds to my txt stuff about it then I’ll just roll with it.
Note that I still run proper game in these situs. I still build normal deep comfort and if it’s a day2 I go asexual between agreeing to meet up and the actual moment we’re face to face so I don’t trigger her ASD. But once we’re face to face I’ll go sexual again and greet her by pinning her against the wall and kissing her with my hand around her throat and probably a hair pull with a neck nibble, then I back off and we start our day 2 (or if she came to pick me up at my place so we’re in my lobby or hallway I just keep escalating and lead her to my apartment to bang).
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Great line at Steve Sailer’s blog.
I got lucky with a few female coworkers by being querulous at diversity camp.
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… Always hoped you’d further expound on Bean Harvest Game.
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I know some things about animal behavior. For example, Meerkats are adorable and brave. So are Ferrets (if you have a poor sense of smell.) It is pretty simple. They are both pure predators. They kill things for a living. And they are not going to live more than a season or two no matter how scaredy they act.
“Cowardess profits a man nothing”.
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Ferrets might be nature’s perfect organism. A pure apex predator.
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I raised a couple of ferrets.. They were cute and all. One day I gave then a life-trapped rat to “play-with”.Before you could say :”Psycho-killer” they had
comprehensibly violated the sources of life for these aniimal.
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what color are they?
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If you start from an alpha frame and end with an alpha frame is it possible to start back up after a long time say 2-3 years….?
Experiences? Thoughts?
From my experiences the girl usually finds another alpha dude but that’s just one experience
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Did she contact you after you ended it?
If your alpha imprint was strong enough then she will contact you again. Usually months ahead. If she didn’t, then either you weren’t alpha or you left her embittered by something you did towards the end.
Reviving something from years past isn’t good anyway. Sure you might get some past pussy but it’s best to go for new pussy anyway.
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^X2 5 months after telling an ex to get fucked for lying to me, she sends a tentative text telling me about a deal on my favorite beer where she works…I played along and responded after a day saying her sales pitch better include delivery. She brought me a case of pints and old time smashing ensued, and it was like clockwork, she reverted back to trying to get me to chase her and shit, acting vague, texting games…. she even tried to get me to go to her store and buy the same beer.. response was a simple “nah”. her response “lol ok”. we’ve both been radion silence since. I kno she’ll be back for another packin’when shes off her rag. Leave an alpha and they come back sooner or later. Leave like a beta and they walk for good.
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My MOA involves the first time I recognized the power of hitting a woman.
This girl was 18, a universal 8, and loaded as hell. Her life was something straight out of RKOI.
One day we go to the Pier and she suggests that we Jet Ski. I didn’t think too much about it because she also said she wanted to pay for it, so I was all for it.
Anyway, we’re on the beach and out of nowhere she pesters me over some girl who kept posting on my wall in facebook. I tell her that she’s just a friend and to not worry about it. She presses on by saying, “Sure. I bet that’s what you tell them all.” I tell her to stop because there are people around us and she was starting to create a scene. She cooled down for a bit but still looked distraught afterwards. I, on the other hand, was too busy thinking about how fast I could go on a jet ski.
As time went on, I keep getting notification alerts on my phone. “Is that her? I bet it is”, she would say. I was starting to get pissed but I thought about the jet ski and said to myself, “Now is not the time.”
Fast forward to the end of the day and we were done with it all but I could still feel some tension in the air. She’s in the car and as soon as I was about to step in, she tells me, “Don’t you like me anymore?”
I was taken back a bit. I mean, it came out of nowhere and her tonality implied heartache.
“Stop talking crazy. I already told you what the deal is.”
“I knew i was right. You are talking to her. Why are you like this?”
“I didn’t say anything, now shut up and drive.”
“MAKE ME!!!”
I start to lose my temper and say, “You better start this fucking car or I will do something you won’t like.”
She then taunts me by getting in my face saying, “You’re not gonna do anything to me. You wouldn’t dare!”
I get out of the car and she immediately follows suit. She gets in my face again and that’s when all my synapses fire to my right arm. I swung a god like pimp slap that imprinted her face so deep; I saw the outline of my hand on her face.
I’ll never forget her reaction. It was a mixture of shock and awe, arousal, and respect for me.
I take the driver’s seat and she steps in. You could have heard a mosquito crap on the moon. She breaks the silence with, “I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have done that.” They always say this even when they know they’re right. Such is the power of a strong frame, but I digress…
We get to her house and she leans forward for a kiss. It oozed passion and made me forget about my anger towards her. I grab her and instantly thought about sex. I feel down inside her panties, and it was like dipping your hand into a waterfall. Clearly, she thought the same thing. We take my car and I head home to get this shit started.
The sex was fucking amazing.
As she rode me, she would take my hands and place them on her neck. The tighter I gripped, the harder she would ride. I decided to push it and slap her every now and then. She would yell phrases like, “More! Please more! Hit me harder!”
The next day she asked me if I liked it and if there was anything she could do to make it better. I ignored it since I only had one question to ask her.
“Why do you like getting hit?” (I was young at the time, so I was obviously a bit naive)
“Well, I was surprised about it. No guy has ever hit me before. When you do it, I feel like you care about me. It’s hard to explain…”
That one moment of Alpha really uncovered the veil and gave me a glimpse into a woman’s id.
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While I think a well placed smack is chick crack (ch tm) , the risk of catching a charge is too high. If a do gooder happened to see that or after the fact her friends shame her into reporting you youre fucked.
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And to your point, “I feel like you care about me. It’s hard to explain” could, in a counterview, indicate “i know you just took a huge risk in physically slapping me. although it turned me on (bc yes, when the right guy does it, it does arouse her) – you have to know that I could call 911 now and your life would be ruined. Because you took that ridiculous risk *for/on me*, I love you”.
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“Well, I was surprised about it. No guy has ever hit me before. When you do it, I feel like you care about me. It’s hard to explain…”
And there it is. She’s right.
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> “As she rode me, she would take my hands and place them on her neck. The tighter I gripped, the harder she would ride. I decided to push it and slap her every now and then. She would yell phrases like, “More! Please more! Hit me harder!””
Okay, assuming this shit really happened, two serious questions:
1) Are her biological parents still married, or did she come from a broken family?
2) Are both of her biological parents GOP, or is at least one of them a DEM?
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She was adopted as a baby after both of her parents died but I get what you’re trying to find out. Yes, most girls who come from broken homes tend to love violence but I’ve also met plenty of girls who come from good backgrounds that craved some form of sadism in their lives, too.
Both her parents were Republican. Her father was some multi-millionaire who owned an oil refinery in the gulf and her mother was a doctor. She loved to play the piano, the violin, and had straight As in school. She was not some low-iq plebeian, I can assure you of that. The last time I talked to her, she was on her way to becoming a pediatrician.
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No guy has ever hit me before. When you do it, I feel like you care about me. It’s hard to explain…
More than a few women enjoy being hit, in one way or another. I remember a girl in grad-school – she was a Freshman and did something to piss me off. When we got back to my apartment, I grabbed her. Held both of her hands in one hand, pulled her over my knee, pulled down her shorts, and proceeded to redden her bottom with gusto. Punctuating each word with a smack on her rump. On about the firth smack she let out a groan, and it wasn’t hard to tell she was getting off on it. By the time she came her bottom was a cherry red and the sex was mind-blowing later. She said one of her only memories of her father was him turning her over his knee and spanking her as a child, and that when I was smacking her she never felt so safe, loved, protected, or turned on. It’s like all of that was mixed up in her. She was hooked, and that led to other things of course. Talk about a boy with a new toy… After that, I found reasons to turn women over my knee just to “test them out”…
But more than a few women enjoy this sort of thing. I have found that a lot of them are “open” to various things – as long as you approach it properly. I’ve found that spanking tells you a lot about a woman. Of course, that is politically incorrect to talk about… 🙂
As I’ve gotten older I’ve begun to suspect that one of the reasons a lot of feminist are such harpies is they want a man to turn them over his knee… But that’s just a suspicion that I have… Most of them are too danged ugly to want to find out…
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Samuel Pepys
“the young people so merry one with another; and strange, to see what delight we married people have to see these poor fools decoyed into our condition, every man and wife gazing and smiling at them”.
Couldn’t have said it better. Be young be free my young brothers. Fight n fuck as much as you can, it’s the name of the game. Don’t get hitched.
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Talk about your Alphas…. predictions, please, on how long before the first white female journalist decides that it’s urgently necessary to get face-to-face with Abubakar Shekau?
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Check out the look that she is giving her future murderer in the photo at the top – the article is meh.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/jealousy-a-sense-of-entitlement-and-insecurity-is-what-drives-people-to-commit-murder/story-fnixwvgh-1226908058929
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Friday FR –
A lot of what influenced the entire weekend was Yareally’s post on how 10’s like guys who give value to everyone, as opposed to the guy who value leeches off of attractive women (feels he only deserves nothing less than a 10).
So we approach everything on our way to the bars. I ask to hug groups, ask to hug random dudes.
Then I get this high and I’m approaching everything that moves. I’m holding my hand out for girls to take, most ignore.
I approach at country bar (being the only black guy may have something to do with the instant receptivity, I don’t really notice).
Me: Hey
HB7: Hey
Me: So you know we’re together now right?
HB7: Lol
To sister: Hey, meet my new gf. (as I hold HB7’s hand as if we’re a couple)
HB7: LOL
To sister: Don’t we look hot?
Sister: timid lol
My wing comes up to me, we chat. HB7 turns away. I ignore and approach more girls. Some more short sets, and I return. She introduces me to her friends. Some more jokey banter stuff from me (gonna start writing FRs right after the night ends) and I pick her up in front of her friends (I realize this may not have been the best move cuz she’s known these guys since high school), then I put her back down and walk away.
Then we’re outside, more approaching. Go to another bar with these Polish girls. I give a lot of physicality to one of them, she doesn’t like me, I bounce. Her prettier, fatter friend (hot face, big boobs, shitty body) is flirty, my other wing, IT Guy, likes her, asks for her number, she says no. I leave.
A bit later, the polish 3-set leaves the bar, we run into them again. IT Guy reapproaches.
IT: Hey you’re crazy.
Fat Polish: Blah blah
IT: You’re like, so weird.
FP: Blah blah
IT: You know what you are?
FP: Blah
I’m listening to this like wtf.
Me: Dude, she’s saying nonsense! (to FP) Your scarf is weird!
FP: LOLOLOL but they are covering my boobs (shows cleavage)
Me: (grabs boobs)
FP: I didn’t say you could touch them?!
Me: You can touch my penis if you want lol (I motion towards my crotch)
FP: LOL
We part ways and go onto other stuff that doesn’t work out. We see the 3-set again, coming out of another bar. FP has catchup (if she wasn’t fat, she’d be a 9, but she’s like… a 7… maybe 6… fat ruins everything lol)
She tries to spray me with ketchup she took out of the bar. I wrestle her (FP: Stop trying to touch my boobs! Me: Stop trying to touch my penis!) and so on. Anyway, IT Guy is really into her and Pretty Boy (other wing) goes up to her and asks her to give IT Guy her number. She just got out of a breakup. Her friend threatens to shoot me if we “follow them” again. I lol
So it’s nearing the end of the night (download bar is high) so I see my HB7.
Me: Hey.
HB7: Hey you!
Me: What’s up
We walk arm in arm with her group. Sister says to me: We’re going home.
Me: Well let me know when you want me to leave and I’m gone.
While I say that, HB7 sees friend, runs away, and stays with her. I bounce.
We go to this shitty bar for hooking up apparently. Most people are drunk. Blonde girl bumps me with her ass. She’s cute/slim/short, but drunk with bad teeth. Says a buncha incomprehensible shit. Makes out with me. I tell my older wing that I’m not into her (drunk). Older wing says “if you don’t fuck her, I will.”
Me: Okay, fine…
I ended up not fucking her.
Before getting to the bar, I approach this 2-set. I talk to smoking hot HB7.5 (or 8).
Me: Hey, you’re cute.
HB7.5: Blah blah blah
Me: Where are you guys headed?
HB7.5: Name of shitty bar
Me: Uh, okay, so, let’s go there (half-assed lead, we were heading the same way)
HB7.5: Uh… no, thanks.
Pretty Boy says we were close, she was into me, just didn’t lead right. So after everyone bounces home, I stay out. I run into her again, grab her hands.
HB7.5: Hey do you have a cigarette?
Me: No
HB7.5: Oh (let’s go of my hands)
I bounce.
I chit chat with people in a group outside. She’s outside too. She comes up to me, and says “Want to smoke”
Me: lol oh now you want to talk to me?
HB7.5: Well blah blah blah (some bullshit)
Me: So… (I forget what I said here. Let’s just say “Comfort”)
HB7.5: I don’t have a job, I’ve been traveling, now I’m here with my friend.
Me: Why’s that?
HB7.5: (Explanation)
We’re outside, and it’s cool and I’m tired of standing, so I pull her towards this car. I lean back on in. She standing between my legs, talking. One of the dues from the other group I was in, comes up to me.
AMOG: Hey bro.
Me: Hey.
AMOG to girl: What’s going on?
HB7.5: (Silence)
AMOG: Blah blah blah (drunk blather)… blah (walks away)
So then I pull her in close.
Me: I’m cold. (I pull her arms around my neck)
HB7.5: Stop looking at my tits.
Me: Fine then cover them up.
HB7: They’re small so they have to be out.
(I cover them up)
I pull her in close, and then we makeout.
(She pulls away) HB7: “You’re not supposed to just go for it lol”
Anyway, I should go back to my friends.
Me: Wait (she comes back)
(Nothing of significance was said here, she goes back to her friends)
I catch her went she leaves, she gives me her number, friend says stuff about going home.
And here’s my shitty text game:
Me: John
Me: (next day afternoon) Guess what
Her: What
Me: Going to Vegas soon. Wish you could come with, but you dont’ have a job so… don’t know how you’re supposed to support us
(no response)
After much deliberating, me and my wing come up with this response:
Me: I liked your small tits.
Aaaand that’s done.
Problems I see: No qualifying, no push/pull, no comfort… jeezus… really need to focus on those this week.
Any tips would be appreciated!
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‘Me: Hey
HB7: Hey
Me: So you know we’re together now right?
HB7: Lol
To sister: Hey, meet my new gf. (as I hold HB7′s hand as if we’re a couple)
HB7: LOL
To sister: Don’t we look hot?
Sister: timid lol’
Okay, here’s a good way to think about ‘giving value.’ For every cocky line you say, have at least two ‘funny’ lines to say. Funny/icebreaking gives value — it shows you know how to quiet her emotions and open her up a bit.
So…how I’d do it —>
Me: Hey, what’s up, how’s it going? (ya lame right?)
HB7: uh fine
Me: I’m Hunter, nice to meet you.
HB7: Nice to meet you, I’m HB7.
Me: (lets out loud breath) Great now that shit’s over with. So you know we’re together now, right?
HB7: Wha…
Me: Ya, I’m gonna be movin’ in soon, probably take half your shit. Hey (to sister) check us out. This is my new gf. Oh hahaha she’s shy. This is so ‘us!’ (credit to IG)
HB7: Huh…
Me: You’re right, you’re right, this is WAY too fast. Do you even have a nice place? what’s it like, I bet you’re mostly clean but a liiiittle messy. You probably have a little place you like to stuff all of your messy shit from around the rest of your house (for some reason this cold read has a high success rate)
HB7: omg yes!
And we’re off….
‘Me: Hey, you’re cute.
HB7.5: Blah blah blah
Me: Where are you guys headed?
HB7.5: Name of shitty bar
Me: Uh, okay, so, let’s go there (half-assed lead, we were heading the same way)
HB7.5: Uh… no, thanks.’
While I’m all about efficient approaches, you may be shooting yourself in the foot with this style. The opener is solid — nothing wrong with direct. But immediately you’re trying to bounce with them somewhere. Take time to get a little comfort with them. Like, why are you so eager? If you’re so eager, getting girls to bounce with you is probably not a common occurrence for you.
‘Me: lol oh now you want to talk to me?
HB7.5: Well blah blah blah (some bullshit)’
This was good.
‘(She pulls away) HB7: “You’re not supposed to just go for it lol”’
Really this sums up everything. Play with your food just a little bit.
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‘Really this sums up everything. Play with your food just a little bit.’
Actually I want to expand a little. Sometimes a girl will show you some IOI’s as a shit test. If you just remain aloof and chill — i.e. wait — you can probably fuck them later.
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Thanks man.
I’ve really been shooting myself in the foot lately. The last few months I’ve been approaching groups and getting blown out in general. I’ve just started getting into leading and storytelling and making out (If you have any tips on storytelling, that’d be great!).
In terms of results, I haven’t really gotten much (no sex). It’s really my fault (I’ve been pretty insecure). I’d say my latest sticking point is opening up, doing real comfort. I do attraction, and then I’m scared of being real. Not sure why that is.
This is also part of the reason why I’ve been avoiding Day two’s.
I’m sure it’s holding me back, so now I’m trying to be more real/honest with my feelings, and trying to connect with people.
Mostly internals holding me back of course. Your advice is rock solid man, just have to have the balls to open up.
I’ve been meeting with a lot of PUA’s to be honest (even talked with Cupid Schmupid), and they all say the same thing: practice and push yourself. I’ll overcome it soon enough.
These mental barriers are just difficult, is all.
Leading, closing, group theory, and comfort are my goals for the spring/summer. It’s been quite a ride of little wins, but I know I’m ready to get to the next level. I’ve probably been ready since I’ve started posting, but I didn’t believe it (nor was I awake to it) at the time.
I’ll keep pushing, no doubt.
“Like, why are you so eager? If you’re so eager, getting girls to bounce with you is probably not a common occurrence for you.”
You bet lol a fear of opening up as evidenced for my preference for ONSs. But I’ve been getting bored of these surface-level interactions (and haven’t been getting results). Time to go deep.
I appreciate the feedback man.
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@Scray Alright maybe I haven’t been getting “blown out” but just haven’t been taking it anywhere. Wanted to make that clear.
“Actually I want to expand a little. Sometimes a girl will show you some IOI’s as a shit test. If you just remain aloof and chill — i.e. wait — you can probably fuck them later.”
Yeah, should’ve joined her set. She was already into me, I didn’t mention I waited outside for her to come out of the pizza place lol SUPER GAY
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Shining example of why the “giving value to everyone” approach is shite.
Too much circulation lowers the value of anything be it currency commodity or happy go lucky dudeness.
Hugging random guys? Making out with nasty-teeth hos? Hard to believe the night was a bust.
This is annoying faggot clown game. Total overhaul required.
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in my house my chick nice perfect house chick angel baking up a storm three days after leavin in jail don’t know what for yet got miscalls from her mom and jail number
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confirmed some chick called told me
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Everytime I read stories like this one, I thank the Buddha that I decided to move to Tokyo six years ago. I can’t remember the last time a chick was blatantly checking her phone on a date with me.
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is it still moment of alpha when she runs to you and jump tackles you wraps her legs around ya and kisses
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Dude, don’t let the Frankfurt School [and Its relentless 24×7 nihilism] ruin your life.
If you can’t enjoy the fact that your woman is head-over-heels in love with you, then WTF is the purpose of living?
Might as well stick a gun in your mouf and pull the trigger.
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I did enjoy it have put gun to head can’t pull trigger
I don’t think there is a purpose to living but since Im stuck here I try to create one
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that run jump shit was the past we’ll take a break she be back ill have accomplished shit I want to accomplish and it will be hot like the sun again
just she got to live in shit for while I guess cause can’t fucking stick with me and make the sacrifices necessary and I guess I am just used to doing that part alone anyway
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doin some time would be good for her though get off the shit maybe
at least while in
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let me clarify a bit more this chick not up to my standards and will never pass the tests needed to become more than temporary
well better not say never but more than likely not
im gonna dip out and see this bitch maybe when I hit us soil every 5 to ten years
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im not stayin in the ghetto longer than I have to and im almost done having to
she know that too so same shit happened last year when this shit came up didn’t pan out this time it will
can she go where i’m going and live prob not
can she get clean to go
prob not
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after I really dip out maybe that will be a catalyst for her to completely change life time will tell I guess
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> “I don’t think there is a purpose to living but since Im stuck here I try to create one”
You start putting buns in your bitch’s oven, and then hang around afterwards to be a good and loving and ALPHA father for your family, and you’ll learn all about the ultimate purpose to living.
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that’s gonna be a dif chick though who I put buns in if I can do it
she too unreliable and she from us
its cool raising a son im good at it
we’ll see if I can make my own with a non used up chick
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that is also not a timebomb or accident waiting to happen
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there are something like 5 billion non us chicks out there zombie that may not be all fucked up gonna take my chances with them
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but yea don’t read here too much man take breaks and live life its too fucking depressing to read some crazy shit about the world too much
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called the wife my kid asking bout me every day
been what forever now dam guess I made impression and you can see the dif between a woman in a lifetime movie or divorce who alienates the kid against you and a woman who is dedicated to you
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I took my wifes whole life and she still giving it compare that
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hopefully is a god cause I def want to be chilling with her in the afterlife
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that’s my alpha moment it cant be topped this woman will wait for me till she dies if that how long it takes
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You’re doing damn fine mate, don’t worry.
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thanks bob it has been pretty fucking tough being around so many two sided people and away from someone who actually really does care about me
lot of learning but shit some things ya don’t want to know some things better off not knowing probably
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this pregnant blond chicks is glowin
she so happy when she comes in to see me
asks me if im doing ok
become tradition at this point when my chick leaves
hopefully its a little blond blue eyed boy when it pops out
he he he
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you better have some rope nearby just in case
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well got to cut her off lol this mudshark I know getting toes amputated who cares
nobody
well ok I gave her my sandles to walk in she couldn’t put her fuckin shoe on for christsake
but the bitch ain’t movin in
think her kids might be white though actually have to ask her
her shit was fucked ok so a small softspot grr
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omg dude it was so fucking bad
her toes were nasty
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OMG I am sitting here rolling at some of these comments on this post!!! 😂😂😂😂
One comment above is talking about “nasty teeth hos” and I look and see you talking about chicks with “nasty ass toes.”
Lmao!
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I don’t know what the fuck she did but her shit was so fuckin swollen with puss abut to puke thinking about it
that was after she got out hospital
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fucking christ this article even features a dog lady
http://www.miamiherald.com/projects/2014/zipcode/stories/brickell/
that lady playing with her dog should have been married 6 years and have 2 kids by now. she’s not even close
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O.T. The biggest moments of Alpha could be this coming Mother’s Day. Besides the Big O, what should we believers in the Red Pill get/do for our significant others, Heartiste, YaReally? F#ck chocolate, flowers, and cards.
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I wanted to dig a channel in the couontryside and pour gas in it in the shape of I love you
then take a plane up right about sun going down
and fly over have someone light it
and yea that would be cool
she might leave ya but would still be cool
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try that but don’t do it on a reconized holiday just whenever ya really feel it
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Umm why would you do anything for your wife? Do something for your mom!
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Umm! Because my wife is a mother. Figures a woman lurking around a male-oriented site for MALES woundn’t think of that. Time to stop reading this site and start using those eggs of yours so you’ll stop asking stupid questions like this.
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Yes dear, I did think of that. I’m assuming she isn’t YOUR mother, so I asked the question. Your kids should do something for her, not you. My dad didn’t do anything for my mother for mother’s day– my brother and I did.
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holy. fuck.
http://redditlog.com/snapshots/525205
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O/T – a “fat joke” motivated a woman to lose 125 lbs and become a Hooters waitress:
http://dailysurge.com/2014/05/fat-joke-inspires-woman-lose-100-pounds-become-hooters-waitress/
She deserves a pass on the “no hair” thing because she cut it off to sympathize with a sibling suffering from cancer.
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she doesn’t get pass on no hair who th fuck came up with that bulshit scheme to get people to cut there fucking hair needs beat
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@Reco: Found the red pill after I got married. My whole adult life I’d been like Neo where he could avoid a few bullets and knew of a different reality, but he still got a bullet in the leg cause he couldn’t see the zeros and ones in all clarity yet. And like any marriage of over 10 years the sex declines and kids get in the way and women loose their bodies, blah blah.
So, are you living in the same house as your wife? You are still married right?
I’d think you could live in the same house, just bang bitches on the side, not rub it in her face, and things might get better simply by her “suspecting” you have changed and are banging bitches better than her.
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Imagine the faintest version of the original scenario last night. Ended up the same, and no, once was not enough. I know, trivial for Chateau followers, … but bluepilled betaschlub disregard feminine nature at own cost/peril.
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Gentleman (but not really right?),
I’ve recently starting talking to this girl who, unlike most of the females I’ve been talking to since discovering game, seems to become progressively less interested the more alpha (aloof, indifferent, kinda dickish) I act. Normally, the more alpha the more results but with this girl… well she seems to respond (figuratively not literally as she always responds no matter what I say) to displays of sensitivity, kindness, and standard sweetness. When I’m not that way she seems to be less into me. I know it violates CH teachings but might there be some girls who, while otherwise normal and not shrieky freaky feminist harridans, just don’t respond to typical alpha presentation and like a guy who, while not exactly beta, is kind of soft and emotional?
I’m not sure how much I really like this girl. I have to say we have a lot in common. I actually care about what comes out of her mouth and not just what I can stick into it but I feel like talking with her messes up my game with other girls. I’m just thinking about her too much.
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Pure alpha. Yes sure it’s from a tv show but shit… that’s something to aspire to.
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