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Comment Of The Week: Ground To Lust

May 11, 2014 by CH

This week’s COTW is richly deserved. Congratulations, burke.

and these stories are just the jolt ‘normal’ guys like me need as a reminder. i have had many MOA [moments of alpha], but i still have the instincts born of being raised by a single mother. if i say something that is shockingly rude in my mind, i am right about in a woman’s sweet spot. you can go way way further and still get results. if you could grind a woman’s entire being to dust with your dick, like a mortar and pestle, that’s the oblivion she is searching for

Insight elevated to sheer poetry by the breezy lack of punctuation. Women secretly desire their oblivion at the insistence of an imperious man. As the vessel sex, they must be filled with the life force of another — a powerful man, or a child — to fully experience sublimation of their souls. Thus it is that surrender is encoded in the gristle of woman.

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  1. on May 11, 2014 at 9:40 am Comment Of The Week: Ground To Lust | Manosphere.com

    […] Comment Of The Week: Ground To Lust […]

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 8:27 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      u guyz can say waht u want about da jesus, he had a beautiful voice like celine dionenenz!!!

      zllzlzozozoozz

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 1:53 pm Greg Eliot

        Geez, Louise… if that ain’t queer, it’ll do until queer gets here.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 2:34 pm corvinus

        Once upon a time, a bearded lady was a common freakshow gag.

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  2. on May 11, 2014 at 10:19 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    DA GBFMZ TRUE IDENTITY REVELEADEZ!!!

    DA GBFM CARRIESZ A MASSIVEZ WEPAONSZ WITH HIMZ AT ALL TIMEZ!! LZZOOZZLZOLZOZO

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 1:55 pm Greg Eliot

      Conchita Wurst holds the record for holding the largest… aw, forget it.

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  3. on May 11, 2014 at 11:02 am Ezekiel

    This is probably why there’s a bible story about Eve having sex with a snake, or something like that.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 11:38 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      da modern state of america expalined: “After he ascended the throne of Crete, Minos competed with his brothers to rule. Minos prayed to Poseidon to send him a snow-white bull, as a sign of support (the Cretan Bull). He was to kill the bull to show honor to Poseidon, but decided to keep it instead because of its beauty. He thought Poseidon would not care if he kept the white bull and sacrificed one of his own. To punish Minos, Aphrodite made Pasiphaë, Minos’ wife, fall deeply in love with the bull. Pasiphaë had the archetypal craftsman Daedalus make a hollow wooden cow, and climbed inside it in order to mate with the white bull. The offspring was the monstrous Minotaur. ” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minotaur

      lzozozozozozoz

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  4. on May 11, 2014 at 11:45 am Bizzy Brain

    Your desire shall be for your husband,
    And he shall rule over you. Genesis 3:16

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 11:59 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Yes! And that is exactly why Dalrock and his legions of churchian frankfartain followers teach that Jesus came to abolish the Law of Moses and Genesis, and replace it all with dalrockasz tinzy cockas zlzozozozo

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 12:01 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Imagine how many more children would grow up with Fathers if Dalrock/Boxer/et al. didn’t spend day after day preaching and teaching that Christ came to abolish the Law of Moses preaching and teaching that words have no intrinsic meaning and can mean anything at any time, seeking instalanches over Honor.

      Imagine how many more families
      would stay together

      and children would grow up

      with fathers
      if Dalrock/Boxer/et al.
      didn’t spend day after day
      preaching and teaching that
      Christ came to abolish the Law of Moses
      preaching and teaching that
      words have no intrinsic meaning
      and can mean anything
      at any time while seeking

      instalanches over Honor.

      preaching and teaching that

      the Great Books for Men
      are mere fairy tails
      sans meaning, nobility, and Honor
      preaching and teaching that
      men must learn game
      so as to serve da womenz butt and gina tingzlzlzozo
      instead of serving Moses, God, and Jesus
      and teaching their women to do the same
      preaching and teaching that
      MArcuse and the Frankfartians freudian frankfurters
      are greater than Christ and Homer
      preaching and teaching, like Cosmo Mag, that
      men must learn to serve women’s butt and ginz tziznzgzlzzolzozloz
      instead of restoring their homes, schools, and churches
      via the manly soul soul of Moses, Jesus, Homer, and Jefferson
      exalting the classical soul in contemporary institutions
      so that courts no longer destroyed families
      but instead served god instead of da dalrockian/boxerian gina tinzgzlzlzozo
      Imagine how many more families
      would stay together
      Imagine how many Fathers would see their children
      if Dalrock/Boxer/et al.
      didn’t spend day after day
      preaching and teaching that men must learn
      to treat women like dogs, rather than teaching
      men to rise up beyond their baser natures and desires
      and truly follow Christ and Moses and Odysseus and Achilles
      and live for exalted Honor
      rather than cutting down the faith of their fathers
      and deconstructing, attacking, belittling
      castigating and impugning
      the GReat Books for Men.
      lzozozollzolzozl

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 12:27 pm Anonymous

        Imagine how many more people would care

        if you said something new

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 9:53 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Imagine how many more people would care

        if your mom sucked something new

        lzlzozozozozo

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm Zombie Shane

        How did you get that shit past the LIFO stack?

        Are you an admin here now?

        And don’t tell me that it’s just symbolic of the length of your manhood.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:17 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        it’s symbolicz of da length of my manhoodz zlzzlzlzo

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:23 pm Zombie Shane

        ba-dum-ching

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:27 pm Anonymous

        Lolozlolzlolz article about tech industry of course they show pic of 2 women who have never programmed a computer

        http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/11/4111241/emerge-tech-conference-called.html

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:32 pm Anonymous

        Did Matt king get banned or arrested for gay kiddie poem?

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:54 pm Zombie Shane

        Also JayInDC – he just suddenly disappeared.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 9:41 pm Anonymous

        Did Matt king get banned or arrested for gay kiddie poem?

        He recently died after spending 96 consecutive hours in front of his computer, without so much as a bathroom break, attempting to write the most verbose comment in Internet history.

        Investigators were reportedly shocked by some of the poetry they found on his laptop.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:57 am Zombie Shane

        I hope the Mossad isn’t assassinating these dudes.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 10:01 am Donnald

        You guys are funny. Making fun of people who no longer post here for their lengthy comments as you guys continue typing. Typical human inconsistency. What if I told you I was Jayindc and Matt King? As well as 20 other posters? Would you feel really played and pathetic or would you turn it on me? Don’t bother answering, we’re both pathetic.

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  5. on May 11, 2014 at 11:49 am Captain Schlamered

    Happy Matriarcal victory day foolish mortals.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 5:31 pm Zombie Shane

      The YKWs at Google are busy perpetuating the myth of the Super-Mom:

      BTW, does anyone know a Super-Mom who’s younger than about 75?

      For that matter, does anyone know any chicks who can even cook?

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  6. on May 11, 2014 at 12:00 pm Opus

    Incoherent.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 11:05 am burke

      how dare you

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  7. on May 11, 2014 at 12:01 pm elmer

    A woman longs to be rogured.

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  8. on May 11, 2014 at 12:05 pm Steve H

    True. You can’t neglect to give your woman a merciless, semi-punishing banging on the regular. It balances out the torrent of bullshit compliments and ass-kissing she gets from all other facets of her life. She seeks that balance.

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  9. on May 11, 2014 at 12:16 pm Arbiter

    Like women are the vessel sex, so is Christianity the vessel religion, desperate to be filled by the force of Judaism or mass immigration.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm thwack

      or

      he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 2:01 pm Director

        A Cockney walks into an LA Diner and sticks up the customers. A Gollywog pulls a desert eagle on him and delivers a Psalm. Is this a
        A) an example of how a Jewish run Hollywood twists stats to suit a nation wrecking agenda
        B) reflection of true reality
        C) The thin reed a fantasist uppity black needs to keep his sanity hidden.
        D) A and C
        E) elderly hit man who be turning his life around, an Shiet. Your Honor!

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:43 pm whorefinder

        Jesus died for all humans.

        Not for subhumans like you.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:54 pm haunted trilobite

        You never factored the empowerrrd tuff gurl into the equation

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 1:39 pm Director

      The Crusader kills the Muslim and Jew. Then he sets up a new country on their graves and waters his fields with the tears from the Lamentations of their women.

      The more enterprising Crusader also does things like building pyramids of skulls and castles like Crak De Chevaliers. He bathes in the blood of his enemy.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 1:58 pm Zombie Shane

      > “so is Christianity the vessel religion, desperate to be filled by the force of Judaism”

      Actually, Mr Axelrod, the Mashiach was crucified precisely because he spoke truth to The Frankfurt School:

      “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

      http://www.bartleby.com/108/43/8.html#44

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:17 am corvinus

        Right. Arbiter is basically saying that “good is a vessel desperate to be filled by evil” and is too blinded to realize it.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 1:37 pm Greg Eliot

        When it comes to pontificating upon Christianity, Arbiter’s vessel is a cracked pot.

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  10. on May 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm Zombie Shane

    > “Women secretly desire their oblivion at the insistence of an imperious man. As the vessel sex, they must be filled with the life force of another — a powerful man, or a child — to fully experience sublimation of their souls. Thus it is that surrender is encoded in the gristle of woman.”

    Heartiste, I’m not going to argue with anything you’ve said so far.

    My big problem is in doing that, but then disappearing afterwards.

    The pump-and-dump.

    Breaking a woman’s soul and then not hanging around to put the pieces back together again.

    There have always been a handful of sociopaths who behaved like that within the confines of Western Civilization, but as they increasingly become too large of a percentage of the society, the entire house of cards will implode and collapse and disappear into the dust.

    Precisely as The Frankfurt School desires.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 11:21 am corvinus

      I agree with this 100%.

      You may be amused to note:

      One of my targets is the “lesbian” model I mentioned a couple months ago. “Lesbian” in quotes… if she doesn’t have normal (heterosexual) attraction to men I’ll eat my dirty underwear.

      The other target is the golddigger server I played Hryvnia Man on in the previous post.

      You may be sure I am on your side.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:24 am corvinus

        (I have several targets of course; those are the hottest two.)

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 6:22 pm wolfie65

      Trying to put the pieces of a woman’s soul (such as it were) back together again is like trying to assemble mis-aligned, badly cut pieces of 4 different puzzles, mixed together in one box, with half of them missing and the rest coated with acid. Why bother?

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  11. on May 11, 2014 at 12:47 pm kek

    The world isn’t such a terrible place.

    People like you guys live in it.

    Is evolution failing? If it is all doom and gloom, the entire world would be alpha fucks beta bucks, innit?

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 1:12 pm cryo

      “If it is all doom and gloom, the entire world would be alpha fucks beta bucks, innit?”

      Wait, it isn’t?

      U WOT M8

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 2:25 pm Zombie Shane

      > “Is evolution failing?”

      I got into a huge fight with John Derbyshire about this very question a few years ago.

      The Derb is a Darwinian Nihilist who believes that there is no such thing as “de-evolution” or “devolution” – that a gene is “fittest” if and only if it procreates itself the most.

      So that, for instance, if all that survives the coming Troubles were a bunch of IQ-50 bushmen in the savannah of Africa, then their genes will have proved to have been the best.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:37 pm B

        He’s correct. The only measure of a successful gene is one that copies itself.
        Nothing else matters. It’s all biomechanics, 24/7/365.

        Survival is the only measure of fitness that matters in evolution. Whatever helps you survive the best – be it intelligence, teamwork, or rampant promiscuity – is best.

        There’s no other truly objective, non-biased way to measure ‘fitness’ of any gene. Fitness is completely relative to the moment. It’s the reason some tribes developed and others stayed in ooga-booga mode for thousands of years

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Fitness is completely relative to the moment.”

        Which is Darwinian Nihilism in a nutshell.

        To hell with Milton and Shakespeare and Newton and Leibniz and Bach and Beethoven and George Washington and Stonewall Jackson and Thomas Edison and the Wright Brothers and all the rest of those old dead white dudes.

        We want JayZ.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 6:14 pm Kev

        “To hell with Milton and Shakespeare and Newton and Leibniz and Bach and Beethoven and George Washington and Stonewall Jackson and Thomas Edison and the Wright Brothers and all the rest of those old dead white dudes.”

        It’s a pity isn’t it? Too bad you’re as insignificant as the rest of us proles.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 7:21 pm B

        Which is Darwinian Nihilism in a nutshell.

        To hell with Milton and Shakespeare and Newton and Leibniz and Bach and Beethoven and George Washington and Stonewall Jackson and Thomas Edison and the Wright Brothers and all the rest of those old dead white dudes.

        We want JayZ.

        I’m sorry the truth hurts. Won’t make it go away, though. We’ve created a society where genes like that no longer flourish, and we should be blaming ourselves, not evolution. Evolution doesn’t give a fuck about any of that. Evolution just wants to survive.

        White people are getting bred out because they don’t want to survive bad enough. That’s poor evolutionary fitness right there.

        There are no ‘good’ or ‘bad’ genes in and of themselves. A gene that makes you incredibly intelligent and resourceful doesn’t mean jack shit if it makes you sterile. Genes will adapt to whatever the current environment dictates is the selective pressure.

        Fair, unfair. Good, bad. Those are irrelevant, and using your personal biases and favoritism won’t do a damn bit of good without embracing and accepting the driving force behind all biological action.
        If you want ‘those’ kind of genes to be in a society, you have to spread them. You have to create a society where JayZ’s genes are seen as inferior and Jackson’s superior.

        That’s reality, even if it’s unpleasant. Wasn’t the whole point of this website destroying pretty lies and presenting uncomfortable truths for painful digestion? What good will it do to stick your fingers in your ears and cry about how terrible it all is? If you’re so great, have some fucking kids like me.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:23 am Zombie Shane

        > “Wasn’t the whole point of this website destroying pretty lies and presenting uncomfortable truths for painful digestion?”

        To evolve is to change for the BETTER.

        To de-evolve, or devolve, is to change for the WORSE.

        When you go to that Dark Place, where you can no longer distinguish between “better” and “worse” – where words no longer have meaning – then I can’t have a conversation with you anymore [simply because conversations are necessarily predicated on the assumption that words do have meanings].

        I hope you left a trail of bread crumbs behind you, just in case you decide that you want to turn around, and find your way back into the Light.

        But I’ve never known anyone to venture that far into the Darkness and not come back out.

        PS: And don’t kid yourself – the term “Pretty Little Lie” can’t have meaning in the absence of meaning.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:25 am Zombie Shane

        == “But I’ve never known anyone to venture that far into the Darkness and come back out.”

        No ‘not’.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:09 am Tilikum

        ZS, you realize that you sound like a feminist/SWPL/tradcon with this stuff right?

        messed up part is that once you embrace this reality as an individual, you can actually do something about it.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:42 am Zombie Shane

        > “feminist/SWPL/tradcon”

        Again, words have meanings.

        A “feminist” is a jewess [who is actually merely a mouthpiece for the jews behind the scenes that tell her what to write] which argues in favor of the annihilation of Western Civilization.

        A “tradcon” is a father who seeks to preserve Western Civilization.

        To conflate the two – to declare that a “feminist” is a “tradcon” – is to render words wholly without meaning.

        And that’s nihilism, plain and simple.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 1:39 pm Greg Eliot

        Nihilist? Faaaack… say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, dude… at least it’s an ethos.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:24 pm ryan vann

        Biomechanics… I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm Zombie Shane

      > “If it is all doom and gloom, the entire world would be alpha fucks beta bucks, innit?”

      Do not kid yourself.

      We are staring at the greatest peril that Western Civilization has faced since about 450AD.

      The civilized world is depopulating itself at suicidal rates of infertility.

      Things are very, very bad, and there isn’t much good news on the horizon.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 2:29 pm Zombie Shane

      And do not kid yourself – this time around, Abraham Lincoln was Caesar.

      And John Wilkes Booth was Brutus.

      We are not living in a Republic anymore.

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  12. on May 11, 2014 at 1:20 pm david

    I got laid last night for the first time in 4 years. thank you heartsie, I used the juggler method and kept solid frame all night, she was putty in my hands…
    I am a decent looking guy< healthy and athletic 6,1. Right now im airing out my bedroom bevause it smells like pussy. Red pill swollowed.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:07 am SatyrWolf

      Don’t air it out, let that scent infuse everything. The next girl will catch a whiff and think “Damn…I got to fuck this one better than the last.”

      Seriously it’s better than Axe, most like hamster nitrous.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:10 am Tilikum

        church

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 1:41 pm Greg Eliot

      Right now im airing out my bedroom bevause it smells like pussy. Red pill swollowed.

      Keep up the good work, my man… next time you might even get one who bathes!

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  13. on May 11, 2014 at 1:53 pm thrust

    Is there a straight up example of this. I have a feeling I’m doing this exact thing at the moment.

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  14. on May 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm Will

    I’ve been contemplating the whole “slightly choking” thing during sex. Done it before, but wondered how far is too far and is this actually a good idea before. Sometimes I think that I’ve done it too far before. But anyways I think it actually serves as a dominance/confidence indicator in the man more than anything else. That way when your girl interacts with other guys and they get really excited when they even just touch her or are hesitant with anything physical and not treating her like gold….in the back of her head she’s thinking “this guy is not a dominant animal and is timid….my main guy just basically choked me…”

    I was worried I took it too far before but I don’t think I should worry about it b/c of what I mentioned above. Ha it must’ve been a tad painful but get better to err on the side of too much boldness

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 2:34 pm anonYmous

      ive done the same thing, then i started to worry about leaving marks on her neck. and if anything came of it legally i didnt want there to be any pictures of a red handprint on her neck. so i just cup my hand over her mouth and nose and count to 20 or so. for added effect i’ll grab a hunk of hair and hold her head in place. one sloot i did that to said in the morning that it freaked her out a lil at the time but then said i was cool with it and she liked it. i think the hand around the neck would display more dominance though, but not as dominant as just randomly putting it in her ars.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:14 pm Zombie Shane

        > “then i started to worry about leaving marks on her neck. and if anything came of it legally i didnt want there to be any pictures of a red handprint on her neck”

        No kidding.

        You don’t want to be going up against a bulldyke district attorney [who stacks the jury to be filled with fellow bulldykes] if they’ve got a picture of your handprint on your pump-n-dump’s neck.

        So either don’t dump her afterwards.

        Or else don’t let her learn that you have lots of money for which you could be sued.

        But you are definitely playing with fire here.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:16 pm Zombie Shane

        If you have to go that Dark Place, then your best bet is to keep copies of video [WITH AUDIO] which can prove to the jury how many orgasms she had during your little impromptu BDSM session.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 3:57 pm Will

        I’m not so much worried about legal issues. Just questioning/curious with the benefits of it and it’s effects

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 4:07 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Just questioning/curious with the benefits of it and it’s effects”

        The effects will depend upon whether or not you HOLD FRAME afterwards.

        If you make the mistake of hanging around for pillow talk, and you get all soft and apologetic and beta, then see “bulldyke district attorney”, as above.

        Once you venture into the Dark Place, you’re either a stone cold killah, or else you’d better prepare to be killed.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 8:02 pm gunslingergregi

        Once you venture into the Dark Place, you’re either a stone cold killah, or else you’d better prepare to be killed.”””””””””’

        true had to take out my Russian bayonette yesterday
        I wasn’t stone cold there was a smile on my face and joy in my heart

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 8:09 pm gunslingergregi

        thought robbery in progress he he he
        and who cares if I brought knife to gunfight fuck it

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 4:10 pm cynthia

      For a woman, you have to remember, there’s a fine line between enjoying a man’s strength and being scared by it. There’s also a fine line between kink and injury. Having something like this sprung on you, as the woman, can be terrifying.

      A lot of women enjoy being dominated in bed, but you’re talking about something entirely different here; this isn’t like fucking her harder than you normally would. This is asphyxiation play, and kink like that comes with rules. If she’s not into choking, don’t do it. If she is, get her permission first and give her a way to signal you to stop. Stuff like this is a lot more enjoyable as the receiving partner when it’s discussed beforehand.

      From a female standpoint, what makes this sort of thing sexy in real life (not to be confused with the stuff we jack off to, a la Fifty Shades) is not the raw display of strength from the guy, although that’s part of it. It’s about trust. The emotional context of the act is far more important than the physicality of it, if that makes any sense.

      I’m not engaging in hamster logic here. This is how women work. Plus, you can really, seriously, truly hurt somebody doing this. From a legal standpoint, at the very least, it’s not a good idea (you put her in the hospital, she decides it’s rape the next day, etc).

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 4:49 pm Will

        Ok I’m not talking about literally strangling the girl if that’s what you’re thinking. A firm right grip on her neck is more along the lines

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:02 pm cynthia

        “Sort of choking” and “firm grip on her neck” are two different things, true. Position is different; the first, you’re potentially blocking the airway or arteries, the second is less threatening in that regard (even if you’re, very likely, holding her face-down). Either way, ask. No shame in discussing stuff like that.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:09 pm Will

        @cynthia I don’t know if I can work with that. Betas ask questions…alphas just do.

        I was just worried that it was too aggressive or hard. But nothing was said or no flinching so I guess not? I guess moral of the story is don’t over do it

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 5:55 pm Zombie Shane

        > “I guess moral of the story is don’t over do it”

        The moral of the story is: Do not lose frame and get all beta afterwards.

        And make sure that she has lots and lots of orgasms.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 9:28 pm Anonymous

        I’m not engaging in hamster logic here.

        Mother of god. The hamster has become self aware.

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 10:32 pm Amy

        Maybe it’s just me, but… if you have to ask, it defeats the purpose.

        It’s safe to start with just holding the neck. Depending on reaction, move to gripping. Then, you move to….

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 5:44 am x

        Yeah.

        Or like a girl once told my friend after a night of violent sex…. ” i know that you wouldnt really hurt me, but i got lost in the possibility of it “

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 9:55 am Tilikum

        what a huge shit test.

        I’ll say it again for the cheap seats………..

        ………..dudes dont listen to girls about male/female relations.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 10:53 am little spoon

        DO NOT ASK BEFORE DOING IT. Choking is tricky because you have to do it like you mean it or else it is not worth doing at all. Choking is not the most direct way of displaying dominance. Driving into the cervix and keeping it there is.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 12:41 pm Scray

        @tili

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:36 pm thwack

        use one hand only

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 10:29 pm FamilyMan

        Why is keeping the dick on the cervix a show of dominance? Just to show it’s long enough?

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  15. on May 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm whorefinder

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  16. on May 11, 2014 at 3:34 pm Hilary Clinton

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    I’ve always suspected YKW rats control all access to jobs in Britain!

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 4:03 pm Zombie Shane

      “Poster at Irish Savant”

      Where?

      Thanks.

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  17. on May 11, 2014 at 4:06 pm Hunter

    @Yareally Story mission:

    Came up with this story:

    START

    Your name is X? That’s weird, I met a girl named X when I was in LA for the first time last month.

    I was at this really trendy dive bar called Seven Club, and me, my bro, and two of my girlfriends were drinking. We were already on our way to this white party (all white attire) at the Standard Hotel, but we wanted to check out some of the local bars first. We walk in, order some shots, and we’re getting a little rowdy. Then this girl comes up to us and says “Are you guys gay?” We have this running joke that we pretend to be gay to confuse people, but we actually don’t care and just like to fuck with people in general. But my friend comes in and she’s like “Yes, we are!” The looks at me and says “My name’s X.” We introduce ourselves and she seems cool at first, but she keeps giving me these looks. I’m like “What?” She goes, if you’re gay, prove it. Before I can say anything, she takes my hand, drags me outside and tries to make out with me. I stop her and go “Whoa whoa whoa… what the fuck is your problem?” Some guy comes out of nowhere, and she starts saying “Wanna come with us? We’re looking for another guy to hangout with.” She holds his hand, and I’m like, “uhhhhhh no.” And I bail.

    Have you ever had tried to make out with a gay guy?

    END

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 4:48 pm Zombie Shane

      I’ve actually tried to warn YaReally about this very shit in the past [cause he’s been running with dudes like this].

      Eventually these utterly nihilistic sociopaths become bored with [female] pussy, and the only thing that they can still get it up for anymore is the thought of raping a man’s anus.

      This phenomenon is very real, and as our society disintegrates into anarchy, married bisexual sociopathy [often involving anal rape] is literally exploding all around us.

      Just be glad that you weren’t at their place, where they might have slipped you a roofie.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 12:56 am Hunter

        Dude this isn’t a real story lol it’s a routine/story I made up.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 7:31 am Zombie Shane

        “You know, everyone’s a little bit gay … It’s the truth. Everyone’s gay, all it takes is one cocktail. And if that doesn’t work, sprinkle something in their drink. That’s what I always do.”

        http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2014/05/miley-cyrus-unfortunate-date-rape-joke/362064/

        “During the sold-out show, she asked audience members to make out with members of the same sex.”

        http://mobile.news.com.au/entertainment/story-e6frfmq9-1226909644372

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 9:57 am Tilikum

        are you off your meds?

        you realize this isn’t group therapy right? haha you crazy nut!

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:42 pm OralCummings

        “…tried to warn Ya Really about this…” I enjoy reading about YR’s sleazy doings as much as the next guy,but if it turned out he ran into some fag who cornholed him,why,I’d laugh and laugh,that’d be funny as a muthafucka!!

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 1:57 pm Scray

      This story is pretty good, my only problem with it is is that it looks like you have it RIGHT on the heels of your opener. This will not work, my dude.

      Huge stories like this are best in the A3 phase, I’ve found. Liiiiike, you tell this long story and you qualify her in the story. Just add shit like ‘yeah and this reminded me of you because you seem adventurous, I like that,’ or whatever.

      Otherwise, she isn’t invested in you enough to hear a loooooooong story from you yet. First 5 minutes or so should just be breezy. Now, if she starts talking your ear off, then you’re good to go and you can fire away. But usually you’ll have to warm her up a little with fun, edgy banter.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm Hunter

        @Scray

        “Huge stories like this are best in the A3 phase, I’ve found. Liiiiike, you tell this long story and you qualify her in the story. Just add shit like ‘yeah and this reminded me of you because you seem adventurous, I like that,’ or whatever.”

        Ah, okay.

        “Otherwise, she isn’t invested in you enough to hear a loooooooong story from you yet. First 5 minutes or so should just be breezy. Now, if she starts talking your ear off, then you’re good to go and you can fire away. But usually you’ll have to warm her up a little with fun, edgy banter.”

        Thanks man, really appreciate the perspective.

        Unrelated, but I’ve been going super direct the past year, and I haven’t had much luck. I get more positive responses when I don’t go direct. I’ve also noticed that I’ve done a lot of 50/50 as opposed to 90/10 in interactions.

        I’ll keep you posted man, thanks so much for the tips.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:24 pm immoralgables

        @Hunter

        Try some of these openers. They are direct/semi-direct and fun.

        Like you’re not diving in head-first with them. Give them a try.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:25 pm immoralgables

        Fuck, here is the hyperlink to the direct openers compilation:

        http://www.reddit.com/r/GothamSeddit/comments/1xahy7/nightgame_openers_compilation/

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:26 pm Hunter

        @Immoralgables Thank you broo! Will test these out tomorrow 😀

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 2:13 pm ryan vann

      Enjoy your dabblings in buggery.

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  18. on May 11, 2014 at 4:32 pm TheSuperRedneck

    Along the lines of needing to be “filled with the life force of another,” a woman’s primary biological function is to have a dick stuffed in her. That’s what she has been designed to do above all else, and that’s a reality that I’ve used to get a few friends to start heading in the right direction.

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  19. on May 11, 2014 at 5:46 pm haunted trilobite

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    How is it that women so good at getting degrees? Granted, their blank minds, devoid of any original thought, are the perfect canvas for the tweed-clad lecturers they idolise to finger (paint). Is it that the aforementioned void in their souls compels them to lap up all the feminist-tinted drivel that counts as an education these days, or is it the need for status that drives them, with laser-like focus, across the threshold of acadaemia? Purely from observation, women seem to go on about their degrees more than men. “It’s the one thing nobody can take away from you” chirped Erin. Indeed, but as her billionaire husband-to-be knows, having taken plenty from plenty of people, everything has a price.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 6:12 pm Rick Derris

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 9:20 pm Neecy

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  23. on May 11, 2014 at 6:32 pm mas00

    I’m curious… what about “flirting” by play choking..
    I bump into this girl every once in a while and one time
    I was waiting for a friend because she had a meeting to attend with him
    and we started talking, playing around and I don’t really know how
    we got into it, but I was choking her, by her scarf first, and then she was asking
    me to do it harder, and then I did it with my hands hard. After she was
    looking at me smiling/ glowing.

    Later on I asked her out to a drink/ date through text and she just ignored me?
    I was confused? Maybe choking goes with only sex?

    Some help would be nice in understanding it.

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    • on May 11, 2014 at 6:35 pm mas00

      P.S. A part of me thinks she is just an attention whore and this was a tactic of hers because sometimes I ignore her other times I engage, push and pull.
      I’ve asked her out 2 and still no dice..

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm ryan vann

        Call it “chill” or “hangout” and you are probably in. Sounds like you are dealing with a neurotic-daddy/uncle molested type to me. Abuse appeals to them, normal socialized courting, not as much.

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  24. on May 11, 2014 at 7:28 pm Reservoir Tip

    Had a conversation with my cousin while I was visiting home over the weekend.

    I asked her, “what kind of boys do you like?”

    “I like mean boys.”

    “Mean boys? What’s wrong with the nice boys?”

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 12:35 pm sex way

      From match yahoo.

      “I could meet a hundred nice guys but not feel even one iota of a spark,” confesses Jackie Frazier, 32, of Los Angeles, CA. “But then I’ll meet a handsome jerk who doesn’t pay much attention to me, and sure enough, I fall head over heels.”

      “Talking to a good therapist can help people identify unhealthy patterns and explore how they formed,” says Elizabeth Kuster

      Femcunt docs say natural instinct is unhealthy. Think that’s going to stop Jackie’s tingle addiction?

      Red pill is the only way.

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  25. on May 11, 2014 at 7:29 pm FamilyMan

    Europe is more hopeless than the USA. Look who got booed and who won the Eurovision contest.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/eurovision-2014-russia-booed-by-crowd-during-final-9350249.html

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  26. on May 11, 2014 at 8:37 pm gunslingergregi

    if you could grind a woman’s entire being to dust with your dick, like a mortar and pestle, that’s the oblivion she is searching for””””””””””””””””’

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  27. on May 11, 2014 at 8:41 pm gunslingergregi

    speaking of the state grinding on my bitch now she fucked
    thought she was out till court nope
    right back in after hospital done
    crazy part is she wanted me to pick up the prescription from hospital
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    • on May 11, 2014 at 9:38 pm gunslingergregi

      she had a nig text me
      had miscalls from jail but haven’t set my phone up to take the calls
      told him go ahead do it I ain’t its embarrassing
      guess she really fucked now

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 9:49 pm gunslingergregi

        allright so I was gonna have the black chick next door clean some shit in house and suck my dick
        so I guess she was pissed bout that one
        when she was here he he he
        oh well so now ya got two thickheaded people lol
        hope she don’t die in jail

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 10:00 pm gunslingergregi

        she said she was ugly as fuck
        I said ill let any bitch suck my dick
        called me a sicko

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      • on May 11, 2014 at 10:39 pm gunslingergregi

        little more back story when I met the bitch she was telling that dude she loved him and the husband
        took her ass off both of em
        so yea I was proud in way beating out the drug dealer and the husband
        but yea
        black dude was the one gonna bail me out on thanksgiving while back
        paid on books on another bitch that was calling me while back he might as well pay on my bitches now too

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  28. on May 11, 2014 at 8:44 pm Rick250

    Well it certainly becomes clearer and clearer to me…as mentioned on here before women need to be dominated. Whether by all-consuming needy children; an over-demanding job that she loves to complain about; or an alpha mate that will defy, lead, and *inspire her (giving credence to maxims such as
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    that was so disgustingly dirty..floor covered in mud – shit on the walls type mess..he would have a robotic orgasm anticipating the cleanup task.
    Happy mothers day.

    *optional

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:47 am sex way

      “he would have a robotic orgasm anticipating the cleanup task.”

      Deep shit.

      Peace is her nightmare.

      Like presenting children with two options to give them the illusion of choice and self determination it’s best to orchestrate all the chaos in her life from behind the scenes. If you don’t, her version will be far more damaging.

      She doesn’t want to reach enlightenment. She’d find it boring.

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    In the end,everyone got what they wanted. She got to show her sex bite marks on her tits to an authority/daddy figure. The surgeon got paid. And I got away in time.

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  32. on May 11, 2014 at 9:43 pm walawala

    A few practical examples here because the OP makes a very important point. It’s “uncomfortable” for many of us raised in a feminized environment to assert ourselves. I’ve been active in learning external and inner game for 4 years now and I still often struggle OR catch myself qualifying myself and need to stand my ground.

    A few recent examples to share.

    I re-connected with my crazy ex gf at a party a few days back. We’re dancing and she makes a mistake and says:

    Her; “who taught you how to lead???” shit test

    Me: Who taught you how to follow? If you want me to teach you how to dance you’re going to have to start paying for these lessons…”

    Her; mmmmmmmm

    Second example.

    I had a meet up with a hot 28 year old I’d met on Tinder. She didn’t show up. It was heavy rain so I replied: “Where are you?”

    Her: I didn’t know we were meeting today.

    Me: sent two screen grabs of our funny chat where she agreed to the time and confirmation. Me; “seems clear”

    Her: I sincerely apologize

    Me: Well if you can find a way to make it up, we’ll see

    Her: I’m sorry

    I asserted myself

    Third example:

    Long game with girl I know, constantly either opens me or I open her.

    Her: I just had a WET sexy show outside, you miss it Special Agent

    Me: you could have a wetter sexy show inside

    And so it goes…

    In each of these situations..pre-game me would think this was either rudeness on her part or mine. It would think I had to apologize or accommodate.

    I don’t. This mindset is so important because I’m not being a complete jerk…or perhaps I am but if I didn’t agree and amplify then they would be asserting themselves and I would be in that “Blue Pill” self-effacing “hope” we can move it along.

    Guys that pander to girls do get laid. But Red Pill guys get more compliance, better treatment overall.

    Flaking and shit-testing are facts of life. Being more self-aware and unafraid to assert yourself is crucial. I’ve sadly learned how brutal the sexual marketplace can be. Most of these dramas and storms usually blow over quickly what you’re ultimately left with is how YOU feel about how you did.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 11:29 am burke

      “Guys that pander to girls do get laid. But Red Pill guys get more compliance, better treatment overall.”

      totally agree. and adding to the irony is red pill treatment gives them far fonder memories of your time together. so the idea of being nice, and trying to avoid being thought of as a ‘jerk’ is counterproductive.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 12:22 pm sex way

        Red pill is far more efficient. Pussy validation must be the most important thing in the world for guys running oribiter social life game.

        Blue pill converstionalist friend might entertain/boost them and translate to lays but it’s just more work for the same result with the added negative of the girl looking back and seeing not an alpha bull that took her but a beta friend that stooped to take the scraps she offered.

        Red pill gives all involved what they really want.

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  33. on May 11, 2014 at 9:50 pm Rum

    She wanted to get bitey bruises on her girly parts to brag about them (without having to say anything) to the Dr. Hollywood Cosmetic Surgeun she wanted to get naked in front of. He wanted to get paid. a lot for the case.
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    Win Win Win…

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  34. on May 11, 2014 at 11:32 pm Will

    One part of human nature that frustrates the hell out of me:

    You want what you can’t have

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 12:31 am walawala

      This is a key driver of game.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 9:41 am gunslingergregi

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      she calling me at least 20 times a day i’m not answering lolozlozlozlzolzolzolzolzl
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    • on May 12, 2014 at 10:00 am bob

      Not as a man.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 10:22 am gunslingergregi

        yea as a man you make it happen

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  35. on May 12, 2014 at 12:47 am Caramba

    We need “no approach”day. Like one day a year as many men as possible should not approach strange women,should not talk to them, contact them via social networks etc.Better, every last Friday of the month should be “no approach” Friday.
    Couple of days without “likes”under pictures made on a toilet sit and girls will start approaching themselves lol

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 10:23 am gunslingergregi

      they already approach each other

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 10:57 am FamilyMan

        I don’t understand. Really.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:13 am gunslingergregi

        girls approach girls

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:22 am corvinus

        Gunslingergregi is right. “Lesbianism”.

        Most men are beta pussies, alphas are fewer and further between, and so women figure they might as well mutually masturbate.

        Men, step up.

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  36. on May 12, 2014 at 3:22 am Daily Linkage – May 12, 2014 | The Dark Enlightenment

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  37. on May 12, 2014 at 10:55 am FamilyMan

    “I have to operate tomorrow” game.

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  38. on May 12, 2014 at 11:22 am burke

    thanks ch. just as back story, i got a text from a past lover, whom i had treated poorly (in my mind). i hated her (lib, food snob, dave matthews fan), but her body (short with t&a) sent me over the edge. i couldn’t let her stay dressed. and i wanted to keep her shut up. it added up to very rough sex.

    shorty: I am housesitting all weekend. Ah, memories. 4:14 PM
    burke: of chicken breast and risotto and nudity 4:21 PM
    shorty: Yes, I fed you then you fed my deepest desires. 4:26 PM

    anyway i thought about the exchange, realized i’m kind of a puss naturally, and that her fondest memories of me were when i was totally fed up and trying to destroy her

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 11:46 am Amy

      Ha! Did you put your hand over her mouth?

      This is always interesting to me. The idea that you (general “you”, not you specifically) can have a sexual relationship with a girl you can’t stand… to have such an extreme separation between sex and love. I guess it’s just a demonstration of how men don’t bond through sex.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:06 pm curious

        “I guess it’s just a demonstration of how men don’t bond through sex.”

        women bond through sex….men bond through…? can men truly ever bond with a woman? if so, how?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 6:20 am Greg Eliot

        Oh, but women bond through sex… until the next swingin’ Richard comes down the pike with a better deal.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:54 am Amy

        No, if she worships you then there IS no better deal. You’re the best deal in her eyes.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:36 pm what

        @ Amy

        “No, if she worships you then there IS no better deal. You’re the best deal in her eyes.”

        Words to live by

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 12:03 pm sex way

      “her fondest memories of me were when i was totally fed up and trying to destroy her”

      Quality insight that validates Costanza game. Treat the ones we like as if we hated them and proceed with asshole destruction game.

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  39. on May 12, 2014 at 11:32 am Lurking Gorilla

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    This is exactly what I’m going thru right now. So fucking cynical. My girlfriend and I live together. She’s 24, I’m 38. She’s got a hot body, smart, nice ass. Always talking about love and being in love. She wanted kids, I got a vasectomy a month ago. I’ve been thru bullshit with a woman trying to pin a kid on me. That shit is never happening again. It’s wierd being in a self-defense mode in relationships. I’m entering a business deal where I could be bringing in solid cash maybe 10k a month. She texts me “can I quit my job and go to school fulltime.” Lol, now I’m thinking about how to protect my assets and the only answer is: be single. Fuck, if you live with a woman long enough they can give her half your shit. This shit is crazy. My cynicism is at an all time high.

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  52. on May 13, 2014 at 11:46 am Rudeman

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