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Appeasement Is No Way To Win Wars Or Women

May 12, 2014 by CH

Maxim #54: A woman’s happiness is inversely proportional to efforts to accommodate her demands.

Corollary to Maxim #54: The more a woman’s demands are catered, the more irrational will her future demands become.

Appeasement is relationship death. Appeasement is the damping oscillation that brings a woman’s tingle to rest. There is hardly a self-defeating behavior a man can exhibit more hazardous to his love life than appeasement of his woman’s fickle and endlessly reconsidered stipulations. Once you go down the road of appeasement, the cliff side is an inevitability.

Given this reality of female nature, the riddle is why so many men resort to appeasement when the heat is on?

Part of the reason for the reflexive beta male embrace of the appeasement strategy is that it does work… occasionally, and only temporarily. Betas are so scared — picture a shivering, frightened little bunny as symbol of their state of minds — to provoke their women’s ire that appeasement becomes not only the emotionally satisfying recourse, but also the logically rationalized one based on retrieved pleasant memories of those few times it worked when nothing else works for them.

Barring competing effective strategies to pacify a pissy wife or girlfriend, an appeasement gambit only has to “work”, say, one out of ten times for it to become the go-to prostration for befuddled beta males. And remember that in the beta male’s worldview, a working romantic strategy is one that doesn’t end with his lover leaving him. The bar for healthy LTR management is set very low in the beta universe.

(For comparison, the typical alpha male standard of satisfying relationship health is the continuance of morning surprise hummers.)

A beta husband may be able to briefly calm his wife down by appeasing her, but the escape he narrowly engineers is just a trap door to a pit of lifelong termagant torment. That’s the poison appeasement pill he swallows: Quick relief, followed by progressive system failure. Tragically (and comically), he knows no other way.

Commenter ‘having a bad day’ serves up his own hard lesson in the futility of appeasing women:

my wife was like that too. pick a fight for no reason, not getting enough attention, blah blah blah…it almost ruined me and my ‘happy home.’

but wife’s behavior was based on the ‘best friend’ model of marriage that was indoctrinated into my impressionable young mind throughout my life…

who knew that women didn’t really know what they really want…? (that’s the real ‘crazy’…)

i had bought into the feminine imperative and was trying to ‘have it all’…best friend, lover, confidant, etc…and she hated it!

she was a follower, because all women are followers if they are happy. (just like the ‘teachings’ around here state.) it really is true…if they are happy, they are following someone they can look up to, admire, respect, feel safe and protected by, blah blah blah…if not, not happy…

the ‘crazy’ comes out when she doesn’t have that in a way that is unmistakable. she’ll put pressure on the relationship (shit test) to check for leaks…no leaks = anything you want…with a big shit eating grin at being able to please her ‘leader’

the ‘big crazy’ comes out the same way you train a guard dog…you push it a little, it ‘fights’, you let it ‘win’…you push a little harder, it reacts, you let it win…soon enough you can break a baseball bat over its head and it’ll still rip your arm off…same with women…and the younger, more fertile (hotter) the woman, the faster the escalation goes…so she can ‘win’ at uncovering the ‘beta’ (so no sex) or ‘alpha’ (so anything you want, just use me and not that other chick over there…)…because her body knows that her time is short, and it wants those better genes…

my marriage was shot because of the ‘friendship model’, but i got some game and turned it around, thanks to this place and the related ‘outposts’ and for that i am truly thankful…

my wife is ecstatically happy, deferent, doesn’t pick fights, apologizes for being crabby or in a bad mood, goes out of her way to offer support, etc. in other words, she has become much more feminine…

she does NOT want to go back to the ‘best friends’ model of marriage. Just today, i was doing something and happened to slip back into a beta response to something, and she got kind of panicky, and told me ‘you know, i don’t want you to beat me, but you need to sack up, and make a decision.’ (direct quote…) she did not want me to be her ‘oh, i don’t know, what do you think?…’ ‘best friend’…and yes, there was a little bit of panic in her eyes…but only a little, and then it went away when i told her what i wanted…so she could work on being a good follower…

better follower = happier woman…

Why do women come to resent their appeasement in time? The male mind formulates, “She’s getting what she wants, why isn’t she happy?” The problem is projection: The male mind draws a direct connection between wants and demands. Accounting for a few Machiavellian exceptions, when a man makes a (rare) relationship demand, you know that’s what he wants. And so men project their mental experience onto women. But what most men (and most men are betas by definition who lack a sufficient learning curve in the hearts and beds of women) don’t comprehend is that women have a disconnect between their demands and their wants. When a woman makes a demand within the context of a relationship, it’s a reflection of her want, not the want itself. Her demands are better understood as either child-like gropings toward self-expression of confusing and troubling emotions, or subconscious gom jabbars (tests of mind) that aid her in her hypergamous (yes) quest to obtain the best man her looks and femininity can afford her.

Seen in this way, appeasement is a strategy that misses the mark entirely or, worse, fuels resentment because it is evidence of failure to live up to a woman’s ideal lover and protector. And it makes sense if you put yourself in women’s stilettos; appeasement is the biopolitical strategy of the weak, and what woman wants to be with a weak man? Weak men are inherently untrustworthy. You can’t know with the requisite certainty that a weak man will have your back when threats emerge. Grrlpower glorification notwithstanding to the contrary, women are slaves to their hatred for weak men, and a manjaw or six figure salary won’t change that innate female revulsion for pliant men. This visceral revulsion is so strong that even the obvious benefits of a reliable and generous provider can’t fully extinguish a woman’s bodily disgust at the thought of receiving his seed.

“Women with the really good, stable guy felt more distant at high-fertility periods than low-fertility periods,” Haselton said. “That isn’t the case with women who were mated to particularly sexually attractive men. The closeness of their relationships got a boost just prior to ovulation.”

To ensure that the findings were not an anomaly, Haselton and Larson repeated the experiment with 67 other co-eds in long-term relationships. This time, however, the researchers administered a better-recognized measure for relationship satisfaction than the one they originally used. They also administered a questionnaire aimed at illuminating a dimension not studied in the first round: pickiness. The questionnaire asked the women to rate how characteristic such faults as being moody, childish, emotional, thoughtless and critical were of their mate.

The researchers found that women mated to the less sexually attractive men were significantly more likely to find fault with their partners and, again, feel less close to their partners during the high-fertility period than the low-fertility period. Women who rated their mates as more sexually attractive, meanwhile, did not exhibit these changes and instead reported being more satisfied with their relationship at high fertility than at low fertility.

The researchers believe the findings shed light on a suite of conflicting behaviors that stem from mating strategies that might have provided an evolutionary benefit to women’s female ancestors of long ago but today probably serve no other purpose than to stir the domestic pot.

“Since our female ancestors couldn’t directly examine a potential partner’s genetic makeup, they had to base their decisions on physical manifestations of the presence of good genes and the absence of genetic mutations, which might include masculine features such as a deep voice, masculine face, dominant behavior and sexy looks,” said Haselton, who is affiliated with UCLA’s Center for Behavior, Evolution, and Culture.

Men can’t (pragmatically) change their Hollywood looks, but they can change their behavior to conform more with dominant behavior that is typically associated with irresistible alpha males. A big first step that doesn’t require huge amounts of willpower is simply avoiding the temptation to appease women.

They also plan to look into how, if at all, the [aggrieved female] behavior is perceived by the male partners of these women.

“We don’t know if men are picking up on this behavior, but if they are, it must be confusing for them,” Larson said.

You bet it’s confusing for them, if by “them” you mean beta and omega males with limited experience navigating the shoals of women’s ids. Men who have bedded more than two or three women know the score, and the female behavior that’s confusing for most is for them an opportunity to play and enlarge the scope of their authority. The plain fact of this highlights the trade-off inherent in the womanizing lifestyle: The sexual experience that permits exploitation of women’s mate choice ploys to one’s personal benefit will also degrade a man’s ability to feel transcendent emotional attachment. Knowledge inevitably leads to cynicism, which is corrosive to romanticism and relationship stability unless one has the unearthly capacity to resolve the tension between self-interest and self-transcendence.

Relationship appeasement, then, is a Pyrrhic victory, buying time at best. When you stand accused by your woman, don’t act like a guilty party. Instead, act like a powerful authority figure suffering a self-incriminating tantrum from one of his acolytes, no matter who is technically at fault. I’ll give you an example from CH’s own repository of rendezvous.

GIRL: You’re really being an asshole. Why am I with you?
HADES’ GARDEN HOSE: Sorry. I’ll stop.

hahaahha. Bizarro world CH. No, that’s not how it went.

GIRL: You’re really being an asshole. Why am I with you?
HADES’ HOWITZER: [silently waits a beat, then stealthily moves in to perform the same asshole move at half intensity and half speed.]
GIRL: Cut it out! What’s the matter with you?
HADES’ HOWITZER: Would you say I’m being the biggest asshole you’ve ever known, or just a run of the mill asshole?
GIRL: Enough of an asshole.
HADES’ HOWITZER: Cause you know, I can turn it up so I’m number one asshole in your heart again.
GIRL: [starts to smile] Seriously, you have problems. No don’t turn it up.
HADES’ HOWITZER: [pulls same asshole move]
GIRL: Fuck!
HADES’ HOWITZER: Oh yeah, that hit the sweet spot.
GIRL: Grow up.
HADES’ HOWITZER: You know what I’m hearing? “Please pee on me in the shower tomorrow morning.”

To all the beta male readers: Next time you feel the need to appease, stop, and do the opposite. Pacification is the province of pussboys. You will take the road less traveled. The road to goad. Expect push-back. That’s a good thing. If you can stand strong against the immediate headwinds, you’ll find a tranquil, and deliriously scenic, vista open before your eyes.

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  1. on May 12, 2014 at 1:59 pm A♠

    “she got kind of panicky, and told me ‘you know, i don’t want you to beat me’…”

    Speaks volumes.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:15 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      Force and violence are key, in relationships as in politics.

      Violence works.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 2:40 pm Tilikum

        actually it’s the only thing that does.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 2:57 pm gunslingergregi

        it does and it doesn’t there is dude downtown with all his knuckles in the wrong place from fighting
        I don’t want to be that dude when i’m older got to hurt

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:54 pm MBA2016

        You can be dominant without being violent. I was bored yesterday while hanging out with my girlfriend. I had a half a glass of water in my hand and I motioned as though I was about to pour it on her chest. She says “ha ha, wet tee shirt contest”. Then I poured it on her.

        I could see the twinkle in her eye and a smile on her face. And then she realizes she was showing her excitement, so she shot back with a “you are such an asshole.”

        Me: yup

        Her: why did you do that?

        Me: you asked me to

        Her: I didn’t think you would actually do it

        Me: that was your mistake, I thought you knew me by now

        She dropped it and later that night we had awesome, wild, kinky sex. I was a total dick to her and suffered no negative consequences. I would have never tried something like that 4 years ago before I discovered CH.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:59 pm Silver and Red

        Violence smacks the glasses off of Logics face..

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:18 pm Zombie Shane

        > “VIOLENCE smacks the glasses off of LOGICS face..”

        Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a MURDERER from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

        http://www.bartleby.com/108/43/8.html#S34

        In the beginning was the LOGOS, and the LOGOS was with God, and the LOGOS was God.

        http://www.bartleby.com/108/43/1.html#S1

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity)

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:32 pm Jordan Belfort

        This is some real talk right here.

        Violence is needed at times and make no mistake about it, it creates massive amounts of tingles that not even “proper game” can reach. My guess is that violence is very primal. I’m pretty sure cavemen back in the days didn’t run routines or persuasive NLP tactics on the cavebitches. Instead, those men swung their fist and got those cavebitches back in line.

        Forcing a woman to do something, on the other hand, will cause her to resent you. If she’s attracted to you sufficiently and you’re congruent with your behavior, she will do any slutty thing you ask her too. This even applies to women with little experience in bed. Some girls are those “heat of the moment” types but these still fall under attraction. They just need the proper amount of push to do this. Also, don’t confuse ‘force’ with ‘persistence’. As those are two different things.

        If a girl doesn’t want to give you a bj or anything else you want, chances are, she lacks a genuine desire for you. You passed a certain threshold to bang her, but you’re not her top sexual priority.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:50 pm Director

        Basic Hobbes.

        All is Force and Fraud

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 6:40 pm mittja

        Yeah, it’s not like there’s something to learn from the likes of Napoleon, John Dillinger, Hitler, the fall of the Soviet empire, etc. Those guys really knew!

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 8:25 pm gcm

        Hope your trip to the cop shop was worth it.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:16 pm having a bad day

      you need to reread the OP (probably a couple three times…lol…) and try to understand ‘why’ women get ‘panicky’ when you appease them…

      then reread my post…lol…i’ve never had to beat my wife or even threaten her like that…the advice around these parts has been accurate enough to be able to avoid that low-brow brute force method…lol…

      by the way, women engage in hyperbole, too…lol…

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:24 pm gunslingergregi

        yea todays post got to be read a few times its in depth

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  2. on May 12, 2014 at 2:02 pm Appeasement Is No Way To Win Wars Or Women | Manosphere.com

    […] Appeasement Is No Way To Win Wars Or Women […]

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:30 pm Irishsavant

      “The more a woman’s demands are catered, the more irrational will her future demands become”

      Very sad but so true. But bear in mind that the corollary does not hold true, though….i.e. the less you do the more rational her demands. She’ll just fly the coop if you don’t go some of the way.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:33 pm CH

        The corollary holds in this regard: The less you do the more trivial and insignificant her demands become. If she knows you are a self-possessed man who won’t bend easily, she’ll attempt to extract simpler signs of commitment than she would try to pry from a more appeasing beta.

        As for flying the coop, nah doesn’t really happen unless you show absolutely NO signs of growing attachment. Women have breaking points, but those points are much further out than most men realize (or want to realize).

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:27 pm Amy

        “Very sad but so true. But bear in mind that the corollary does not hold true, though….i.e. the less you do the more rational her demands. She’ll just fly the coop if you don’t go some of the way.”

        Yes but there are observable signs before she does that. It becomes less shit testing and more sadness, crying.

        Otherwise, the less you do the less she expects. Then, even the smallest signs of affection take on huge meaning.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:12 am what

        “It becomes less shit testing and more sadness, crying.”

        shit testing = emotionally invested ==> still in the game.
        less shit testing = sadness ==> on her way out.
        no shit testing at all = apathy ==> she’s already gone.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 6:26 am anon

        Wow, it’s almost like rational thinking and emotional thinking can conflict with each other. And that there’s a phenotypic gender difference between the two. And this would mean an evolutionary advantage to one gender being more logical than the other.

        A million dead feminists just rolled over in their grave and crushed a cat skeleton.

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  3. on May 12, 2014 at 2:03 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    hey hearrsetzutzes dis happensz 2 da gbfm all da timez!!! like dis:

    GIRL: You’re really being an asshole. Why am I with you?
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.

    hahaahha. Bizarro world CH. No, that’s not how it went.

    GIRL: You’re really being an asshole. Why am I with you?
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.
    GIRL: Cut it out! What’s the matter with you?
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.
    GIRL: Enough of an asshole.
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.
    GIRL: [starts to smile] Seriously, you have problems. No don’t turn it up.
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.
    GIRL: Fuck!
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.
    GIRL: Grow up.
    GBFMS’ GARDEN HOSE: Wot? I can’tz understandz u with my lostas cockas in your mounthz.

    zlzlzozo

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  4. on May 12, 2014 at 2:07 pm corvinus

    Here’s another article giving a couple of examples of how appeasement can tank relationships:

    http://www.returnofkings.com/33967/the-moment-i-saw-women-for-what-they-really-are

    If you hate doing it, but are doing it so she doesn’t complain, you lose.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:02 pm Amy

      There’s a lot more to that article than appeasement. I’ll be the first to admit that appeasing one of my bullshit demands is the wrong move 99% of the time, but I don’t consider what those girlfriends did as normal feminine behavior. At all. That second gf is disgusting. If he was dating women like that, he needs to take a hard look at himself. He’s the common denominator.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:55 am Grim

        All “best ass I’ve ever seen” girls are BPD cluster b. You’re right. I have this problem too. I date only super tight body HB8s and 9s (or nothing at all) and if they are younger than 29, they are crazy and even VIOLENT. No exceptions. Those hormones have their brains royally fucked up.

        so what you said is right and guys like us are our own problems to some extent. people have told me that. my only experience is with very hot young women and when I complain about women to my fatty friends in the office, they point out that I pick them based on looks and if I picked a fatty, the fatty woudl be nice to me.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:43 pm corvinus

        There’s a reason the term “hysteria” means “disorder caused by having a uterus.”

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  5. on May 12, 2014 at 2:13 pm Zombie Shane

    This is the legitimate, purposeful, honorable and noble use of Game: To capture a good woman’s heart, to make her [and the fruit of her womb] your own, and then to hold your family together in the midst of the relentless tidal wave of cultural poisoning which The Frankfurt School will throw at her [in an all-too-often successful bid to corrupt her soul and destroy your family].

    Game is simply a tool. It can be used to serve Evil, or it can be used to serve Good.

    Just like a gun.

    You can take a gun and murder a perfectly innocent human being.

    Or you can take a gun and defend your family against a home invasion by the chimpanzees or the armadillos or the Bureau of Land Management.

    It’s your choice.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      dalrockzas can game his wife all he wantz in da name of christz until jesusz’s second cummingz and third cummingz on his face, but one day, if she ever callsz da courtz/laywersz, GAME OVER! lzlzlzlolzozozozoz

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm corvinus

        If Dalrock was a Catholic I’d take him more seriously. At least Catholics don’t accept that divorces are even legitimate.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:26 pm Zombie Shane

        > “if she ever callsz da courtz/laywersz, GAME OVER!”

        But that’s precisely my point.

        If you properly Game your wife over the years, then when you get to be 55, she won’t think that you’re as sexy as you were when you were 35 – she’ll think that you’re VASTLY SEXIER.

        So that “GAME ON” inoculates you against “GAME OVER”.

        PS: And as you get older, you’ll need to up your Game to include teasing the hell out of your Princess Barbie Doll daughters – to keep their snotty little asses in line too, just like their Mama.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:57 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        and we will allz winz
        and findz ourslevesz in heavnz
        by serving not jesus and moses nor mhomer
        but by kneeling ebfore d abutt and gina tinzgzlzzo
        and sevrint it
        over god

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:34 pm Frank Montgomery

      LOL armadillos, gonna use that one next time.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:42 pm Tilikum

      last time K…..

      there are no good women. there is no evil.

      you are gonna be fine, promise.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm Donnald

      ZS: you seem like a nice guy but your whole family overtone is just a bunch of societally-programmed nonsense from your childhood growing up, specifically, in the southern United States

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm OralCummings

      Well said,except I think that Cliven Bundy guy on the cattle ranch was just a dope who didnt want to pay his grazing fees. (For all I know the jerk may be on Obongo’s payrioll)The gubmint owns a hell of a lot of land and yes,gubmint insiders may profit fromt that,but is the alternative,the oligarchs buying the land for pennies,an improvement? Methinks nay,M’Lord!

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:21 pm Zombie Shane

        I’m at the point where I don’t even give a fuck if Bundy is wrong about everything.

        I’m just looking for any excuse to start taking off the gloves.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:44 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      Or you can take a gun and defend your family against a home invasion by the chimpanzees or the armadillos or the Bureau of Land Management.

      Or defend them from the wrath of the Desert Tortoise.

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  6. on May 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm whorefinder

    Appeasement in defense of pussy IS a vice.

    But you know what isn’t a vice?

    ………………………

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:18 pm Heywood Jablome

      Unlawful carnal knowledge by a clown?

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:30 pm Joey

        +1

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 10:16 pm Matthew

        Clown Unlawful Carnal Knowledge

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      • on May 15, 2014 at 1:06 pm Heywood Jablome

        I think that’s a Clown Halen album.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 4:08 pm OralCummings

      Whoa. Thats a tough one. Hmmm what would whorefinder consider NOT a vice? Gotta turn that over in me head a few times…

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:10 pm Troubadour

        A vise definitely isn’t a vice.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:58 pm ho

      robbery?

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 10:04 pm Droogie

        Of the opportunity to consent?

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 8:05 am no

      Vise Rape?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 4:00 pm whorefinder

        “Vise Rape”

        —I just popped a chubby.

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  7. on May 12, 2014 at 2:35 pm no

    How does one become more of a sociopath…any advice is needed..

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:57 pm Dog King

      Watch gore site videos every day, war beheadings are the best. After a while you will begin to enjoy them and all the humanitarian bullshit being spewed will become a joke. I’ve tapered off the videos but every now and then i’ll watch one to remind myself of what i need to become so i don’t literally lose my head in this world.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:06 pm no

        things of this nature seem to be a viable shortcut..whatever gets the job done..

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:27 pm Zombie Shane

        Dude, you’re talking an ACTUAL sociopath.

        You could probably get to be a pretty good FAKE sociopath if you just learned a few techniques from the dominatrixes at Wired Pussy, Whipped Ass and Hogtied [out of the old San Francisco Armory].

        Learn how to pull her hair and slap her tits and spank her pussy and that sort of thing.

        But also give her plenty of orgasms along the way.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:14 am Robert What?

        I think he’s looking for sociopath, not psychopath.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:02 pm cryo

      I think it just happens naturally when intelligent men are forced to come to terms with a low-trust, low-social capital society. What better way to shirk the Cathedral than to immunize yourself from its emotional ploys for capituIation. I prefer to refer to this gradual creeping of sociopathic tendencies as “going rogue”.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:04 pm no

      My sociopath score was rather low at 68, and I’ve been thinking about how it could help me in so many ways if I could up that…I want to know all about this..

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 5:42 am NiceGuyGoneCad (@NiceGuyGoneCad)

      Torture and kill small animals on a regular basis. Your mind will adapt to this new habit by shutting down your capacity to feel empathy and remorse. That’s the way many famous psychos started their careers. Be careful, though. Like them, you might like it too much and eventually feel the need to use humans…

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:53 am no

        women have minds of small animals…I can torture their small animal minds..

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:56 pm herb

        This is what SSRI’s and SNRI’s (antideppressant and antiphsycotic) pharmaceutical industry lobotomy does to women you have even “gamed” your entire marriage will destroy.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:52 am no

      I’m already a very good fake psychopath when I need be but I need it in my blood…like a life drug…

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:54 am no

        happy mothers day bitches..

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  8. on May 12, 2014 at 2:52 pm newlyaloof

    Women want everything in life – except for their men – to appease them.

    Wife just called asking where lawnmower key was. I recognize this now for what it is. A shit test for me to say, “Don’t worry about it. I’ll do it when I get home.” But, I told her where the key was and to have fun. Haha. I could tell she wasn’t ready for that. She responded a few comments about hopefully being able to figure it out (again more guilt-loaded shit tests to get me to say I’d do it). I told her to have fun and she’d learn a thing or two. She replied, “Well, does it have any gas in it?” (another attempt) I replied, I don’t know, but fill it up if it needs it.” She replied, “No, I don’t want to fill it up with gas.”

    See, she wanted the grass cut. She didn’t care about how busy I am or how many other priorities I have in front of the grass. She wanted appeased on the grass, plain and simple, but she didn’t think it was worthy of her time to fill it up with gas. Think of that betas. She didn’t feel it was worth one minute of her time to fill up the lawn mower, but an hour of my time cutting the grass with it was.

    Like the Federal reserve and our money supply, the more appeasement you give out, the lower your value. You’ve got to defund the Hypergamy Reserve one monitary-asshole-unit at a time.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 2:59 pm gunslingergregi

      hahahahahahahahahaha

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:20 pm Heywood Jablome

      That’s a Comment Of The Week contender, right there.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:43 pm cynthia

      Naw, she didn’t want appeasement, and this wasn’t a shit test, she wanted the grass mowed. But, since she just didn’t want to do it herself, she wanted to manipulate you into doing it for her.

      It would be more accurate to say that a woman will never do anything for herself that she can manipulate a man into doing for her. She doesn’t respect you once you do it, not because she doesn’t know what she wants, but because you allowed her to get one over on you.

      We don’t respect men we can control.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:48 pm newlyaloof

        Stop yappin’ and make me a sandwich.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm Sad Fat Clown

        Wow what an insightful comment. You’re so smart! I enjoyed this comment very much! Be looking for more! 🙂

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:25 pm cryo

        So what the fuck is the difference? She didn’t want appeasement, except that she did. lol ok

        I don’t respect people that talk in circles.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:34 pm Amy

        The way she did this was sort of a shit test. If she just came out and asked you nicely if you would please mow the lawn because she hates to do it, that’s one thing. I don’t think it would have been appeasement to agree in that circumstance (although you should ask her what she’s going to do for you in exchange, lol).

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:07 pm curious

        @ cryo

        Cynthia is right. She didn’t WANT appeasement. She would have respected him less if he had appeased her. Maybe newlyaloof gave this example because he thinks this is the result of appeasing her too much. That she is asking for more than she would if he hadn’t already given in to her so much already.

        There could be some truth in that but I see it differently. I think she was hoping he’d prove to her that he was a man. A man that takes care of his home like a real man should. That was the shit test.

        A real man wouldn’t let his wife cut his grass. Should you be cooking dinner for her while she changes the oil in your car? God no. A real man would say…Is dinner ready? Is the house clean? I don’t need you cutting my grass. You don’t do it the way I want. You’ll screw up the lawnmower. I’ll do it when I get around to it.

        She wanted the grass cut and women manipulate because it works. Would you rather have her nagging and demanding? I doubt it. And maybe she didn’t want to come right out and ask and have to listen to a bunch of bitching and moaning about… “how busy I am or how many other priorities I have in front of the grass”, etc. etc.

        Cut your own god damn grass man. What the hell. You cut the grass and you expect her to have a nice cold beer in her hand for you when you’re done. That is the natural order of things.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:19 pm blow

        I’ve gotta side with curious on this one.

        I don’t mean any disrespect to newlyaloof but I think you do lose a little alpha cred when you have your lady cut your grass for you. You lose cred in your neighborhood too.

        I think she was definitely shit testing. But it wasn’t so you’d cave and appease her. It was to see if you’d step up and take care of business. There is a difference.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:21 pm cynthia

        Appeasement: to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

        The MAN wants to appease. Peace, reconciliation, quiet.

        The WOMAN wants something entirely different. We want drama.

        You guys want the game to stop, with definitive results. We want the game to keep going forever.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:27 pm gaoxiaen

        Do you really want to buy a new lawn mower after she ruins it?

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:08 pm Will

        I think you’re looking too far into this. I would’ve joked around about mowing the lawn or said I already had it planned out to do b/c she’ll break the lawn mower…idk something like that.

        “appeasing” is more along the lines of failing obvious shit tests.

        i.e. “you never get me roses or get groceries”

        appeasing would be going and getting groceries and roses that weekend.

        It’s doing overly beta things to try to ‘directly’ increase her happiness that reveal you stepping out of your frame and treating her like the alpha.

        When she asks you to mow the lawn please respond with something like “please don’t lay a finger on that lawn mower because I put gasoline in it and I don’t want you breaking anything or messing it up” then do it.

        It’s a different story if you also “have to make dinner” after you mow the lawn–but otherwise that scenario I would say is fine ha

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:47 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        ““you never get me roses or get groceries””
        My ex said that I never buy her roses too. I told her that she doesn’t buy me roses either. She appreciated the roses when I did buy them far more than she would have if I would have gotten them when she was complaining. The thing about giving women what they want is that you must do it on your own terms and it must surprise them. It was kind of funny to see how much care she took of those roses.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:56 am newlyaloof

        P.S. Been married to her for over 13 years. This was a crystal-clear shit test to comply with. It would be like me asking, “YOu are gonna cook dinner tonight at 5:59 right?” when I know she usually cooks dinner at 6:00.Simple as that, but as my name would suggest, I enjoy these subtle displays as if my children have done them.

        I just cut the grass on Friday. Lawn looks good. Woman just have different opinions on when that shit needs cut again. If I cut the lawn and a few dandelions race ahead of the grass an inch, I’m not cutting the grass more than once a week on the weekends. I live on some acreage in the country bitches, so I’m always doing shit like chainsawing downed tree limbs, taking care of chickens, fixing fencing, gardening on a large scale (160 pounds of tomatoes last year for example), and working two jobs.

        Don’t worry about the grass – worry about learning some new recipes in the kitchen. Worry about sucking cock like you used to do. Worry about the approaching wall.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:14 am leeminh0

        Why men don’t like drama? after all in ancient times it was the men who kept forever wars ,second world war was caused 100% by men, and suddenly after weapons became very destructive they became scared and wanted peace

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 8:43 am Steve H

      Thank you for the reminder to never co-habitate with a woman ever again. I read the other responses and I still like the way you handled this.

      The only right way (meaning: way I’d positively respond to) for her to proceed would be “hey babe, i know you’ve got a lot going on. but we’re having jon + jane over for dinner friday night, and i’d like the place to look nice for that. can you make sure to cut the grass either tonight or tomorrow?’

      Any other way of asking is nagging. And what your wife did (and other commenters blamed you for the causation while validating her ‘man-up shit test’) is just garden-variety passive-aggressive manipulation. Never reward that. Who cares if your castrated, wage slave neighbors judge you for letting your woman cut the grass. Are we really legitimating that petty ‘keeping up with the joneses’ vapid suburban hellhole bullshit? Oh no, castrated wage slaves will judge you under their breath because it’s been 2 weeks since the lawn was mowed and your yard isn’t manicured as perfectly as theirs. More likely, they paid a mexican landscaping outfit to do that via debt spending anyway. Who cares. I’m bored just thinking about that life.

      As Rollo Tomassi says, this is all just serving the female imperative and female social primacy at its basest. Let the catty bitches whine to someone else; your appeasing response to her manipulation will breed more of the same and she’ll be further twisting you into an emasculated ‘manning-up’ servile pretzel within weeks if not days. So – well done.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:08 am Grim

        “I’m bored just thinking about that life.”

        I will NEVER again cut one blade of grass. In other words, boomers are so fucking lame. Boomers love suburban yards and wasting 4 hours on Saturday cutting grass. lzozlzlo fucking retards the boomers are.

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    • on May 15, 2014 at 10:42 am Wizard Prang

      Long-time lurker, first-time poster.

      Agreed. She wanted the grass mowed, but she didn’t want to ask, because then it would like like he were doing her a favor by doing it. It’s a bit of a power game – she wanted to frame it so that *she* was doing *him* a favor.

      In my house it’s called “asking-without-asking”, and I broke Her Ladyship of that habit years ago. It still creeps in once in a while, and I nip it in the bud. “I don’t speak hint. If you want something done, ASK.” usually stops this in its tracks.

      As for me and my house, mowing the lawn is *my* job. Because *I* said so.

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  9. on May 12, 2014 at 3:02 pm Scray

    The stakes are high indeed. One could say that the world failed Germany’s shit test circa late 1930’s…and look what happened. Is that w0t u want m8?

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 4:32 pm cryo

      Be careful who you ask that around here…

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 6:42 pm Zombie Shane

        The world failed the Frankfurt School’s shit test in when they murdered Alexander II in 1881.

        When they attempted to murder Henry Clay Frick in 1892.

        When they murdered President McKinley in 1901.

        When they murdered Stolypin in 1911.

        When they murdered the entire Romanov family in 1918.

        When they taught Marxist-Leninist theory to Sun Yat-Sen and his star pupil, Mao Tse-Tung, in the 1920s.

        When they starved to death 10 Million Ukrainians during the Holodomor in the early 1930s.

        Etc etc etc…

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:45 pm ballocaust

      muh zionism :[

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  10. on May 12, 2014 at 3:03 pm gunslingergregi

    don’t think it was appeasement
    they didn’t want to give my bitch shower in hospital cause she had fucking seizure at the jail
    so I did wash her down in her bathroom that had no shower in it lol
    putty was smellin like enchiladas
    wanted me to fuck her lol uhhh uhhh
    got the bj
    he he he

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  11. on May 12, 2014 at 3:08 pm elmer

    R.Don Steele had a useful mnemonic to help one remember this fact : accommodate = commode.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:49 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Talk about gettin’ the shitty end of the stick.

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  12. on May 12, 2014 at 3:10 pm pain

    hey CH,

    last night a friend of mine showed me a sex clip of an indian woman cheating on her husband while talking to him!!(its not porn its homemade clip)
    So, yes last of my faith in civilization is vanished.( its quite painful actually)

    I used to hesitate to believe in your blog but i guess at last am free.free to your teachings.

    yes its a worldwide phenomenon.its not possible to restore family system. ITS OVER.

    only remaining thing is CHAOS.

    thanks (i guess)

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:32 am Djdas12

      I am from India. Women cheating on their husbands is not unheard of. Young girls making false rape allegations to escape blame is rampant in this country. The cultural stereotype is just a blanket, a facade created to control human sexuality. But When the veil is lifted, its all the same.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:09 am no

        Here we go little spoon. This dork thinks that India woman don’t get raped a lot.

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  13. on May 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm Frederick326

    Number #1 rule with a wife: never argue with her. Let your yes be yes, your no be no. Calmly and unflappable. You have to be the rock on which her waves break. Watch some John Wayne movies to get the mood. Or Casablanca.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:17 pm gunslingergregi

      yea I admit I fucked up some on that cause when I said it was time to go I needed to take care of shit
      she was like really is it time
      im like ehh maybe not
      yea that was a fuckup
      don’t mouth shit and not follow through fucks shit up
      just don’t say it if ya don’t mean the shit
      although I did want her to do it on own
      so I set it up that way
      and not be responsible totally that is a weakness
      but yet plausible deniability
      grrr

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:21 pm gunslingergregi

        the part I did good is the following through on what I said I was gonna do
        after so there is that

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 3:28 pm gunslingergregi

        plus I had to catalyst whats happening now she at a new platue of talking bout real shit real change and putting loot in my pocket
        and getting off the shit
        she on timeout see what happens

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:04 pm gunslingergregi

        me and the devil fighting for this bitch and I am gonna fuck the devil in the ass and take her

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm Flip

      “The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.”

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 10:13 am Mike in Cinci

      John Wayne in the Quiet Man. Alpha par excellance.

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  14. on May 12, 2014 at 3:42 pm Joey

    Every time I hear “Happy wife, happy life,” I fucking cringe.

    A woman I’m friends* with – super accomplished Alpha type chick, a complete Hb who has sadly chased career brass rings, now hitting the wall and maybe a 7 on a really good day, ditched her last boyfriend a few months ago despite being pretty desparate to settle down and have kids, and maybe kick the career to the side. They had a mouse or some similar little vermin running around the kitchen while she was trying to cook and he didn’t want to kill it, seemed neurotic and afraid of it. Her exact words, “Am I just a total bitch for breaking up with him? Am I not reasonable to expect him to sack the fuck up once in a while, when it matters?”

    I told her she wasn’t wrong to kick him to the curb, and she’d be unhappy with any guy who didn’t show some stones on a regular basis. As to where to find one, well, I didn’t have any good suggestions.

    * Friends… but see Chris Rock’s definition of friends.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 4:57 pm jrackl

      isn’t being asked to “man up”, “grow a pair” and “take responsibility” the biggest shit test of them all.

      How about, “kill your own f*****g mouse. I don’t want mouse blood on my hands.”

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm Cocksman

        “isn’t being asked to “man up”, “grow a pair” and “take responsibility” the biggest shit test of them all. ”

        It’s definitely one of them. If you hear these words things aren’t going well.

        “How about, “kill your own f*****g mouse. I don’t want mouse blood on my hands.”

        She doesn’t want to hear this either. What she wants:

        Her: “Mouse!!” (She doesn’t want to have to ask you to do anything. She wants to know that you know that she wants it out but doesn’t want to kill it or have you kill it because even though she’s cooking a dead animal at that very moment, hurting helpless animals is wrong.

        You: Shriek a little higher next time. (You catch the mouse by its tail with a pair of tongs, let it loose outside, enjoy your pre-dinner bj)*.

        *actual events

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm corvinus

        She doesn’t want to hear this either. What she wants:

        Her: “Mouse!!”

        In the cartoon Garfield, Jon yells “Mouse!” once, and Garfield replied, “Chair!” pointing at a chair.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:00 am Schmizzle

        Being asked to “man up” when you’re being a little bitch isn’t a shit test as I see it… It’s actually one of the most humiliating things a woman can ever say to a man. And if it’s true (e.g. if you’re scared of killing a fucking mouse for God’s sake) you don’t deserve an HB7 (on a good day)… Hell you don’t deserve a 3. You deserve to be cuckolded and forced to watch while your HB7 gets rammed proper by a real mouse killing man.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:08 am no

        bite his head off and spit it out at her then shove the body in her mouth

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 5:03 pm cryo

      Sounds like she needs the AMOG cat from that Jessica Valenti tweet.

      lol I slay me

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 5:32 pm Director

      When mice get into the kitchen a broom can turn into a hockey stick. Batting the little blighters around is fun.

      You can even let the little bastard get away if you don’t want him on your conscience.

      Then you absolutely must put masses of poisoned food out and listen to them OD on vitamin D.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:01 pm ho

      “Every time I hear “Happy wife, happy life,” I fucking cringe.”

      As do I my friend, as do I.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:37 pm Zombie Shane

        What makes a wife happy is to get soaking wet between the legs for her Alpha husband and then to have his rock-hard shiv give her so many orgasms that she loses count of how many she’s had and eventually she collapses into unconsciousness from the sheer exhaustion of it all.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 9:56 am anon

      A grown man, afraid of a mouse.
      Betaness knows no limits.

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  15. on May 12, 2014 at 3:45 pm Snarky Rat Smugbucket Jon Liebowitz

    Male appeasement game is simple-minded projection. Female pre-selection game is simple-minded projection. Bitch, you still UGLY.

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  16. on May 12, 2014 at 3:51 pm Canadian Friend

    ” … (and most men are betas by definition who lack a sufficient learning curve in the hearts and beds of women)… ”

    in the hearts and beds of women…

    that is a gem

    CH you are poet-genius

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 4:05 pm gunslingergregi

      Betas are so scared — picture a shivering, frightened little bunny as symbol of their state of minds”””””””””

      what about that this post owns

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 4:06 pm gunslingergregi

        That’s a good thing. If you can stand strong against the immediate headwinds, you’ll find a tranquil, and deliriously scenic, vista open before your eyes.””””””””””””””””””’

        so true

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  17. on May 12, 2014 at 3:55 pm balintwine

    Heartiste, it’s eerie how often this happens: the wife and I will be rocking along, doing SO much better, me with my balls back, and then after awhile BOOM, she acts like a psycho, big fight, then the next day I read your column and realize what an appeasing beta ballbag I’ve become again. Happened again with this column. I drifted back into being a beta suckup and all hell broke loose. Read this colunm, asserted frame, and she’s now just fine.
    I could bitch about the long road I have, but I’m really just glad I can be constantly reminded of what’s true. Thanks for all you do.

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  18. on May 12, 2014 at 4:23 pm gunslingergregi

    Knowledge inevitably leads to cynicism, which is corrosive to romanticism and relationship stability unless one has the unearthly capacity to resolve the tension between self-interest and self-transcendence.”””””””””””’

    he he he

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  19. on May 12, 2014 at 4:25 pm Lurking Gorilla

    I wanted to ask about appeasement in a different context: the public discourse. Chateau has enjoined writers to avoid apologizing or backing down for “controversial” things they’ve said.

    What’s the best way for someone who isn’t anonymous to convey controversial ideas in genetics or evo psych? That is, what’s least likely to evoke the witch hunts from the tard brigade (feminists, equalists, PC thought police)?

    Say you wanted to speak about sex differences or race differences, is it best to couch it in PC bollocks/lick the taint of equalism, or to maintain a strong unapologetic frame while not being egregiously provocative? Or some sweet spot in between? The taint lickers use the most flabby, weak prose; rigor and clarity are obviously roads to crimethink.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 1:37 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      There’s no way you can voice such things without repercussions. This is why I think transitioning into owning your business in your 30s is important. Building a career to have some good for nothing busybodies wreck it isn’t worth it. If you do get called for it, I agree with CH. I wouldn’t apologize, I’d just ridicule them by agreeing and amplifying what they say or other such tactics.

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  20. on May 12, 2014 at 4:29 pm KevinV

    ” subconscious gom jabbars ”

    Dammit sir, I do believe you have just won the Internet with this deft turn of phrase. /Salute

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  21. on May 12, 2014 at 4:38 pm gunslingergregi

    yea that’s more times than I have had to look shit up prob than before

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  22. on May 12, 2014 at 4:39 pm cryo

    So now that the St Louis Butt-Rams have appeased to the MSM’s campaigning for a pansy footballer, how much longer until we have Bearded Lady tight ends and Jezebel tranny wide receivers?

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:49 pm Zombie Shane

      There’s actually a helluva opportunity here for all of the free agents to break away start a “CFAA” – a Christian Football Association of America.

      No jews allowed.

      It could work.

      Football fans are sick of this shit.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 7:50 pm Zombie Shane

        break away and start

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      • on May 15, 2014 at 3:01 am Subway Masturbator

        Yeah, I’m sure a lot of people are real interested in spending millions to have a non-Jewish football league, genius. Why don’t you take a break from your plumbing job and start calling them, they are dying to hear your brilliant ideas. In fact, EVERYONE is , don’t you think?

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  23. on May 12, 2014 at 4:59 pm Steve H

    Thank you, CH, for writing a meaty article that mainly pertains to relationships. The maxim and the lengthy explanations are very helpful towards the end of managing expectations, one of the peskier chronic chores in LTR maintenance.

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  24. on May 12, 2014 at 5:01 pm Cocksman

    “I want you to punish me with that*”

    *my cock

    Said by ltr this morning before she chose bj and rough sex over getting to work on time.

    “Her demands are better understood as either child-like gropings toward self-expression of confusing and troubling emotions…”

    Would you let your three year old niece call the shots? Just realize a grown woman never grew up and controlling her is as easy and fun as pushing down said niece at the playground.

    “Knowledge inevitably leads to cynicism, which is corrosive to romanticism”

    This allows you to treat the ones you like even worse than the ones you don’t. Would you appease a fat 5? Would you buy her a birthday present? Alter your behavior for her? Put her needs ahead of your own?

    Last year ltr bought me a present on her birthday.

    She wants you to take even more than she has to give. She judges her man by his appetites. Be insatiable in everything you do.

    “Next time you feel the need to appease, stop, and do the opposite.”

    After a while it becomes second nature. Actually, you just return to the natural you were in second grade spitting at the future HBs you loved to hate.

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  25. on May 12, 2014 at 5:29 pm Troubadour

    I can corroborate the futility of appeasement in a marriage situation wholeheartedly. I was never as bad for this as a lot of guys, due to genuinely not caring for the most part. Even so, it works even better when you’re aware of this and in control. You want appeasement? Suck my cock, that’s your appeasement.

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  26. on May 12, 2014 at 6:01 pm Appeasement Is No Way To Win Wars Or Women | Reaction Times

    […] By CH […]

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  27. on May 12, 2014 at 6:08 pm little spoon

    “You know what I’m hearing? “Please pee on me in the shower tomorrow morning.”

    lol, have you ever actually done that?

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 4:07 am Lumpy

      Peeing on her is a great answer to pretty much any shit test in the shower.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:50 am no

      it tickles

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  28. on May 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm walawala

    This is true. The more aloof or emotionally in control i was the more my ex gf chased. When i finally let my guard down is when i realize problems began.

    Then when i actually did become more accommodating it got me no where.

    What I’ve learned and what is hard is having the self-discipline to avoid caving in and the ability to draw clear boundaries and stick to them.

    Being an “asshole” is relative. Having clear boundaries and saying “no” is the key. I was called “selfish” and “egotistical” all the time. When I eventually caved into these ridiculous demands is when things went south quickly.

    Then i took a step back and realized…wait…someone has to lead this relationship and “selfish” and “egotistical” were just attempts at trying to control me.

    The lesson i learned from my last experience is to recognize bad behavior for what it is and to draw clear boundaries and stick to them.

    Beta backsliding happens and with a manipulative woman it’s truly the kiss of death of the relationship.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm Amy

      There are shallow, soulless girls who will punish you for any show of vulnerability (like your ex-gf) but normal girls really don’t. It’s like that ratio of 5:1 or whatever it is. For every 5 assholish things, do one nice, sweet thing. For every 5 times she tells you she loves you, you tell her once, etc. The point is that the dynamic is that she is doing most of the relationship work, she is oriented to please you, not the other way around. It’s your life and you’re just letting her be in it.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:25 pm Will

        The point is that the dynamic is that she is doing most of the relationship work, she is oriented to please you, not the other way around. It’s your life and you’re just letting her be in it.

        This.

        @Amy but what about girls that are literally constantly getting attention from somewhat high smv guys and have an outrageous number of options (i.e. take for example a sorority girl). A girl like this always has probably about 4 interesting plans that she could pursue every other day. How in the name of god will she be doing relationship work and planning hang outs with a guy.

        How often would she be doing this relationship work? If she isn’t then her LTR interest isn’t very high?

        I’ve had a girl who initially expressed a lot of interest in terms of initiating texts and saying whats up. It was an LTR and I went complete ignorant beta and she broke up with me for another guy.

        And then I’ve had relationships where the girl is pretty much ‘down’ for whatever but doesn’t initiate in the favorable 2/3 manor in a realistic time period. However, these girls are usually the ones that I’ve been purely sexual with almost like fuck buddies but not b/c we still go out and do some things.

        idk the first relationship almost felt like she was ‘faking’ her interest to get her mind off another guy–if that’s possible.

        Basically, is her giving her body, sex, blowjob whatever enough? Or is it that she is trying to build a deeper connection via obviously planning things?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:49 am no

        ..I want to take your soul..and punish you for no reason..

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:57 am Grim

        Amy seriously dude what the fuck is your purpose here giving advice to men by parroting CH? what’s in it for you? you are red pill game aware and proudly date an uneducated roided out bouncer?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 8:10 am Amy

        @Will:”Basically, is her giving her body, sex, blowjob whatever enough? Or is it that she is trying to build a deeper connection via obviously planning things?”

        She should be trying to build the RL, that’s what you’re looking for (if that’s your end goal). Your problem with this chick you’re seeing is that she can tell you’re a little hung up on her. I know you don’t think so, but trust me. A high smv girl has a nose for it plus she assumes it anyway. You need to pull away from her, ignore her a bit and starting seeing other girls. If you can get her, you can get plenty of others. Create a sense of competition for her.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:37 pm Amy

        “you are red pill game aware and proudly date an uneducated roided out bouncer?”

        Yes I proudly date him, and who said he was uneducated or roided out? Wtf. If you think you’re better than him based on what you do for a living, think again. I know plenty of lawyers and my bf is better than all of them put together.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:52 pm Will

        @amy thanks for your thoughts on it–makes sense.

        What is the best way to instill this competition in her??

        I would say taking her out at night where I can get hit on by tons of girls.

        My probably is I don’t have tons of high smv plates I’m spinning

        Other options maybe. What do you think??

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 6:18 pm Will

        It’s also this…I’m more worried that when I pull back she’ll become indifferent or something and fuck another guy b/c she’ll give up on me…and when she’s fuck another guy it’s Game over. Right? Or have you experienced being able to go back to a girl even after she fucked another guy after you. Idk I think it’s over

        And it’s fuckin stupid, I shouldn’t have to put that much thought and effort into showing competition to get her to chase me. But the. Again isn’t that just being good at the game

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:11 pm Amy

        Will, you don’t have a lot of options. You have to pull back. She may not chase if you do, but she’s DEFINITELY not going to chase if you keep doing what you’re doing.

        Stop initiating texts. If she texts you and you usually get back to her within a half hour, wait 3-4 hours. Meanwhile start seeing others. If you’re in the same social circle she’ll hear about it. If you aren’t, just be unavailable when she wants to get together. Tell her you have other plans, be vague. Relegate her to Sunday-Wednesday evenings.

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 4:25 am walawala

        @Will relationships are counter-intuitive…in other words, the less you do, the better it is. There has to be some initial attraction for the girl to initiate.

        But initiating ALL the time is beta. Never make it easy for a girl, otherwise there’s no sense of winning for her. That’s the basis of hypergamy…trading up.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 10:22 am all fall down

      “I want to take your soul..and punish you for no reason”

      This is exactly what you do to her. Disconnect cause and effect. She will have no idea what pleases you and her investment in relationship maintenance will go into overdrive.

      She needs to be consumed by something. Make it thoughts of dread and prepare for the tsunami of bjs that follows.

      She’s happiest when she’s miserable.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 10:49 am having a bad day

        @ all fall down

        if you disconnect cause and effect, how do you get what YOU want? she won’t have any goals to work toward…which leaves YOU unable to guide her to better behavior…which is what you want…(presumably…lol…)

        let her be consumed by making YOU happy…if she can ‘win’ at that, she’ll go the extra mile to please you in new ways…lol…

        misery is a symptom not a cause…usually because she can’t ‘win’ cuz you didn’t give any clear guidance…that’s a lose/lose for both of you…

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 11:59 am what

        “misery is a symptom not a cause…usually because she can’t ‘win’ cuz you didn’t give any clear guidance…that’s a lose/lose for both of you…”

        This!

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:06 pm all fall down

        “she won’t have any goals to work toward”

        Perfect. If the race has no finish line the runner is filled with dread and is unable to think about the next event. With women it’s always, “what’s next?”. I don’t allow this.

        “unable to guide her to better behavior”

        She is already trained to suit my needs as they exist right now. Toned body, feminine wardrobe, bjs and sex on demand, fresh food prepared and served to me nightly. When I want her to adjust her behavior I simply tell her. I do this so rarely that she jumps at the chance to have a clearly defined objective. When she meets it, I tell her she can do better.

        “if she can ‘win’ at that, she’ll go the extra mile to please you in new ways”

        I don’t let her win at anything. Every time she pulls off a flawless gourmet meal or looks stunning in a dress she got for $5 at the will I say things like, “yeah, that was competent. more spice next time” or “you can’t even wear a g-string with that. you’ve been slacking in the gym too.”

        Victories don’t inspire greater effort. Losses do. She can’t hit benchmarks that don’t exist and this is why she’s always trying to please me. If she thinks she has, she’ll feel satisfied and that fire will die out. That fire is the tingle and I stoke it with insightful negs and backhanded compliments that always highlight some perceived flaw that exists in her mind.

        I keep her hamster racing in the wheel and she is the happiest woman I know. She glows. No bitching. No demands. Extremely limited material desires. Minimum shit tests. Total submission. Everyone tells her how beautiful she is. I tell her if she doesn’t do “X” right she’s sleeping in the garage.

        I will admit that I do give her frequent orgasms via penetration. This is actually the only area where I allow her to win. Often I use her for my own pleasure without regard to hers, but she enjoys this and asks for it, especially during ovulation. Ass in the air, her words are usually something like, “I want to get pounded.”

        “she can’t ‘win’ cuz you didn’t give any clear guidance”

        This is the point. I win. She tries and always comes up just a little short. In the event she actually does win, I change the rules and or goals retroactively. This is my formula and it has led to the most sex filled ltr of anyone I know.

        Of course everyone’s situation is unique. Admittedly I am what CH would call a natural. I never gave game a thought until I stumbled on this place two months ago doing research on an unrelated topic. It has been amazing to see all of this information collected in one place and I’ve definitely brushed up on some areas in which I was lacking. I realized I’ve been running straight up asshole game since I was 15 and supplementing this with CH maxims and commenter advice has made me a god in the ltr and I am now moving towards bringing in a second woman. She has responded very well to the off-handed remarks I’ve made about it saying things like, “she’ll be number 2” and “just promise not to fall in love with her.”

        If you have the upper hand in the ltr (you should or else why consent to one), everything CH says is absolutely true.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:07 pm no

        But I want to destroy her and sever her sanity. Her dark core demands it.

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  29. on May 12, 2014 at 6:45 pm Robert What?

    One thing I’m wondering about – can a guy ever rely on a woman for strength at a time of weakness? The loss of a parent or close friend – the loss of a job – etc? Or is it better to rely on other men for those times?

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:56 pm Zombie Shane

      > “can a guy ever rely on a woman for strength at a time of weakness? ”

      That’s why you’re looking for a nice girl from a good family.

      Someone who will honor all of those “in good times and in bad”, “in sickness and in health”, and “for richer or for poorer” clauses in her vows.

      Another outstanding aspect of Game [and having had a healthy dose of experience as a Playah] is learning to spot The Festering Darkness in a bitch’s heart.

      And to turn and run at the first sight of it.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:12 am Robert What?

        That sounds right. The problem is most guys don’t have the slightest clue how to pick a girl to marry (me included). For most I think its a matter of pure chance – maybe the first one who gave them a good hummer – maybe the one who “accidentally” got pregnant.

        I don’t doubt you’ve seen the darkness – have you occasionally seen light, however rare?

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:29 pm Eeyore

      No. It’s best to rely on your self. Men make for better friends than women, as far as that goes.

      A woman told me a story once about watching boxing on tv with her dad. She felt a secret thrill seeing weak men get beaten down. Their weakness was more revolting to her than their mashed up bloody faces. Red pill.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:38 pm Zombie Shane

        I hope you didn’t marry that witch.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:58 am Amy

        “She felt a secret thrill seeing weak men get beaten down. Their weakness was more revolting to her than their mashed up bloody faces.”

        Lol, that is ridiculous. No one gets more of an alpha rush than I do, but this isn’t the context where it’s hot. Most girls hate watching violence, even in situations where they know it’s necessary. You couldn’t pay me to watch boxing.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 8:40 pm St. Augustine

      As the others say. Perhaps a moment of weakness in extreme circumstances when the man becomes as a child. Any more than a half day of weakness though, and what are you? weak. that which is despised.

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 9:37 pm cynthia

      Yes. Some. Vanishingly few, though, especially now that the practicalities (ie, the economic necessity of being married and supporting your husband) on such relationships have been removed by no-fault divorce and feminism.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:48 am no

        u got a pick hoe?

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 2:09 am Glengarry

      Don’t count on it, except in a perfunctory way. Chances are weakness instead triggers shit testing and her heading for the exit, regardless of your situation. So no wallowing please.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:27 am no

      yes..but all I got is my word and my balls…

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  30. on May 12, 2014 at 6:55 pm Rum

    Re: HBD.
    There is no bottom to the pit if you are an equalist, these days.
    Wolves, domesticated Dogs, and Coyotes are the exact same “Species”. Are they interchange-able? Are they really “The Same”?
    American Bison and ordinary cattle are the SAME species. All current living Bison have imported cattle genetic admixture.
    African Lions and Indian Tigers are so close that hybrids are fertile if male (but not female.)
    The whole genus of mustela -weasles/badgers/ferrets/wolverines are almost certainly the same species apart from matters of scale.
    And so on…
    The fact that 2 quite different animals can make a baby is what is called an “epi-phenomenom”.

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  31. on May 12, 2014 at 7:51 pm Dark Shark

    So the newest iPhone commercial includes a version of “Gigantic” by the Pixies. The most SWPL of brands is now using a song that is widely regarded to be a white woman’s ode to her black lover’s Mandingo meat (“gigantic, gigantic, its a big big love” etc).

    Secret pro-bernakified sub-butthextual message? Masterful trolling by an intern? Or simply corporate cluelessness? lxzzzolzolllzozzz?

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 7:55 pm thrust

      very fucking glad i dont have cable

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 7:58 pm Zombie Shane

        > “very fucking glad i dont have cable”

        Yeah, I’m thinking about getting rid of it in its entirety.

        Certainly not gonna watch the NFL anymore.

        Quit watching the NBA years ago.

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 8:45 pm thwack

        You’re like Howard Cosell, you never played the game (cause you suck)

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 9:58 am all fall down

      kim song. worst on the album. i hate the breeders.

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  32. on May 12, 2014 at 8:30 pm The Undiscovered Jew

    Relationship appeasement, then, is a Pyrrhic victory, buying time at best. When you stand accused by your woman, don’t act like a guilty party.

    As night game declines the chicks are deploying more overt ‘flirt with me’ testing in daytime encounters.

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  33. on May 12, 2014 at 9:45 pm gunslingergregi

    wtf is going on a bitch has never called me this many times
    not to say its not amusing to show to friends when out

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    • on May 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm gunslingergregi

      pregger bitch is def ready to latch on he he he

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      • on May 12, 2014 at 11:00 pm gunslingergregi

        think I been nominated official beta provider of the 2014 ho games

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  34. on May 12, 2014 at 11:03 pm SRBEL

    Women need to be pulled into line. By men. New blog explains it pretty nicely

    http://behindenemylimes.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/well-behaved-women-rarely-make-history.html

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 8:06 am VRW

      most ill behaved women don’t make history either

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  35. on May 12, 2014 at 11:16 pm Backdoor Man

    “Men who have bedded more than two or three women know the score.”

    Amidst all the empty swagger about voluminous conquests on this blog, I appreciate this tidbit. Because it was through my second girlfriend, decades ago, that I started to figure this stuff out. Never again was I the patsy. I have been in command of every relationship, and my marriage, since then. If you pay attention, you can learn quickly.

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  36. on May 12, 2014 at 11:30 pm Will

    couple questions:

    a.) how do you compete with a guy who has a super alpha high attraction facebook profile when you’re ability to make your profile better is unlikely.

    and

    b.) what are some ”red flags” that a girl is ”getting bored” and how do you fix that….

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 1:26 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Sun Tzu and common sense say that if you can’t beat him at his venue, beat him at another. Don’t compete with him on FB, transition your things to meeting in person and being awesome there. Regarding girls getting bored, if she leans forward towards you, she’s interested in what you’re saying, if she’s laying back in her chair looking around the room, she’s getting bored. It’s hard to explain bodylanguage on the Internet.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 8:24 am Steve H

      a) the answer is indifference. not competing with him. agreeing with middling compliments about him, should they be voiced. be excellent at what you do best and never verbally compare your strengths to his. and, broken record here, creating an abundance of women in your life by doing the outer work.

      b) one red flag would be if she’s not trying to get your attention. another would be if she mentions other guys who are ‘assholes’ for having done little to nothing mean/wrong, just showing spine. make no mistake as to the tone of contempt in her voice, it’s not those ‘assholes’ she has contempt for…

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 9:58 am Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

      Become friends with him, go out and game chicks together.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 10:49 am Christian

      1. Delete your fucking facebook. No questions, just do it. Leave it for the attention whores it was designed to entertain. You should be out raping the world of its riches, work tirelessly on a new business endeavor, go skin a bear or build an igloo or something.

      2. If a girl ever stops working at all for your attention, and looks inattentive and disinterested when she receives it, she’s bored.

      Note: Doing #1, will fix #2

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  37. on May 12, 2014 at 11:57 pm tweell

    Grimm’s ‘The Fisherman and his Wife’ does an excellent job of explaining how appeasement works.

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  38. on May 13, 2014 at 12:20 am thrust

    so apparently i made a fucking ass out of myself last friday night – was with the ex and she was introducing me to her friends..

    i guess i asked them if theyve made out with my ex etc when we were introduced.

    later on they called me weird because of it, and im losing major frame now.

    fucking rattled and just not in a good state. i hate my life

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 12:32 am walawala

      Dude…chill. I also approached once saw my ex come in with a bloke and asked if she had come with the guy. She seemed surprised said it was a friend. It was stupid but I never referred to it again and later talked to her about something else and was my normal, game-infused self. I left her with that memory.

      Don’t sweat it. Don’t do it again. People don’t remember shit like this. It’s more of a big deal to you than her. Don’t refer to it again. If she brings it up just blow it off with a shrug and ask her about something else. People don’t remember stuff unless you keep bringing it up.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:55 am thrust

        thanks wala.

        ITS SO FUCKING TOUGH FINDING A HOTTER GIRL THAN MY EX. wtf is with this town??

        i just called her, we’ve both been drinking – i say listen, im not going on like this all summer with you. all youre giving me is drama and pussy. we needto come to a conclusion on us here, whatever that is.

        we fucked all night after the bar on friday. then after 3rd plow around 6am she made a comment about how she hit her head on a guitar because this guy _____ (whos a greasy heavy dealer) played a song for her becuz she told him to.. then somehow she hit her head??

        anyways whatever, i lost it – the attraction went from 100 to 0 in 5secs. i told her if shes hanging out with those shitheads, which are way fucking below me, you gotta make a decision on wtf you want.

        so i told her to leave and she lost her shit, went nuts and non stop cried for hours, saying she loves me so much etc. i couldnr kick her out with all the freak outs so i out her in my bed where she continued to cry.

        it was at a point where in the late morning i said if you dont stop crying im going to fuck you. she didnt stop, so i fucked her. i thought that was kinda neat.

        so then shes gotta leave i walk her to her car with her wearing her black cum stained dress, heh.

        since i told her to text me when shes made a decision, she doesnt, and now i found out she thought i was going to text her on sunday because its our night etc..

        i dont and tonight she goes to the dmsll gym im at around midnight. im like wtf why are you coming here so late – obvs to rattle me. so we both ignore eachother, then when im done i say how u been, she says good, i say good, take care – and fuck off.

        and i ciildnt just fucking lesve it at that. since i dont have that super hot rebound that im searching everywhere for, i call her when i get home. nothing. then i say call me back. she eventually does – and what we have is what started this thread.

        i even told her theres no way i can avoid you. i see you at my fucking club every weekend.. something has to come of this, IM NOT DOING THIS SOUL WRENCHING CUNTSHOW any longer.

        sex is nice tho!

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:00 am thrust

        btw, i mentioned to her tonight all the power games we play with eachother – for instance, she didnt text me last thurs because that would have meant she would have initiated twice in a row. and 2 nights ago, sunday, she didnt text like i stated above because she wanted me to text her…

        i hate myself for being so attracted to her

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:41 am gunslingergregi

        but once you can get to level you can laugh about the shit
        ya might be good

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:11 am walawala

        @thrust

        I did all this at some point. I think you need some perspective and take a step back. You’re addicted to the drama, it makes you feel alive or feel something. But it doesn’t sound very healthy.

        I had similar conversations with mine, they lead no where. I tell her to fuck off, she reaches out covertly. I reach back, she pulls away, chases some other dude. I pull back.

        Rinse and repeat.

        Not cool. I could get caught in an endless cycle…or just keep it together and walk away. Walking away is the best for me.

        For you, I think you need to talk less, no more ultimatums, sort your head out, then set some boundaries.

        There’s a ton of girls in this world. You can’t meet them if you’re hung up on your special snow-flake who honestly isn’t that special…she’s just a girl like all of them.

        Figure our why you’ve suddenly made THIS girl THE girl. Who is she?? Some parent? Some lost something? There’s a lot of stuff out there on these types of dysfunctional relationships. Have a read through and figure out what you need to do to get your head straight. Hint: it’s not necessarily getting back with her…she’s not the solution.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:09 am walawala

        @Thrust

        One thing from my own perspective that was hard was that I was unwittingly tooled by a Cluster B in the classic idealization, clinging, distancing and discarding pattern.

        Ok…tons of stuff out there on this, not to take it personally, grieve the loss and move on. Great as an intellectual exercise.

        But part of the problem wasn’t her…it was me and my own narcissism and “fear” if you want to call it that of “losing”…losing someone, losing face, ego hurt etc etc.

        It’s daunting to face the facts that I invited this kind of thing when if I’d been healthier, perhaps had more self-esteem, had been more self-aware, I would have walked away.

        Yes, she was so seductive and lured me back….but that’s the classic pattern which I now recognize.

        I can now see her behaviours for what they are…attempts at control.

        Ok…but if I’m so game-savvy and self-aware…why did I allow myself to fall into the traps?

        I’m still struggling with this question. But perhaps your search for answers can start there. We all struggle with self-esteem issues and inner-game is much harder to calibrate than external game.

        The only advice I can give you at this point is to cut yourself some slack and take some time away from her to gain some perspective.

        Don’t talk so much about the relationship. It’s “fixer” mode and it’s not alpha, it’s very co-dependent. You can “fix” a relationship or a person. Game can help you navigate the interaction but ultimately it requires two people who both WANT to be in it.

        Rollo writes extensively that in any relationship the person with the MOST power is the person who values it least.

        If you want to be with this girl figure out where the boundaries are for you and state them. But always be ready to walk. That’s not easy and takes self-discipline. That is the essence of breaking out of the Matrix.

        Game is for the strong-willed, for guys who can be with a girl or not be with a girl but have the integrity to know what they want. This indecisive pattern could well be what is freaking the girl out. Many of these girls are just jello without the mold seeking a guy to help define them.

        Is that they kind of woman you want? it’s just a question.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:42 am gunslingergregi

        the real question you got to ask yourself thrust is what do you actually want from her and where do you want to go with her

        what if you didn’t have the drama what would you be doing?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 11:32 am having a bad day

        @thrust

        take wala’s advice…just chill…lol…and don’t do it again…lol…make some mistakes…lose some ground…correct…gain some ground back plus more…not always easy peasy but doable for sure…and you’re in the right area of the inter webs to get help for that…follow the rest of his advice too. it’s solid…

        you’re looking like you’ve the oneitis baaaaddd…lol…at least you recognize it and are willing to deal with it. that puts you ahead of the game right there. congratulations on that!

        “ITS SO FUCKING TOUGH FINDING A HOTTER GIRL THAN MY EX. wtf is with this town??”

        two things…one, no it’s not…two, if it really is…so what? you need some perspective on this…we’ve all been there so don’t sweat it…

        assume it’s true that she’s the hottest girl ever…a true 10…wouldn’t it be even better to have 5 hb7s in rotation? dude…that’s like (counting on fingers…) 25 more better…lol…

        you’re the bouncer at a club, right? here’s some actionable advice (should you feel the need to try to change things around…lol…you might not want to for whatever reason…but you’re posting so it seems like you want out…)

        while you are trying to figure out what it is about your ex that you find so hot (and it might be as simple as she is reaaaalllyyy good at getting you to chase her…lol…)

        pick out different features that your ex has (tits, legs, ass…whatever) and then when you are at the club simply gauge that feature against every other girls you see out…not the whole package (at least not at once)…then when you see a girl that has equal or better on just that feature, check the rest of her features against your ex’s features…fun right? who doesn’t like looking at cute girls…lol…you are not going to be approaching them just looking to see what is out there…

        go no contact on the ex for at least one week worth of ‘therapy’ lol…

        then report back…you’re not the only guy in this situ…

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 11:54 am gunslingergregi

        ill answer what I want from my bitch
        she works almost 24 hours a day for her drugs when she on em
        I want to transfer that type of dedication to working a job towards fulfilling my dreams and making loot that can be used to build up some shit
        so I see the raw material that this bitch could be a nice cog in my machine properly oiled
        is it realistic don’t know

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:09 pm thrust

        Thanks guys..

        I’m just in way too deep and have let my emotions take over me.

        Last night I just fucking lost it – like slowly easing off a drug..

        This can’t be what the summer offers.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 3:55 pm walawala

      @thrust

      Read this post. One of the best: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/500-days-of-beta/

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 12:12 am thrust

        will do, thanks

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 1:35 am gunslingergregi

        yea that is a good one I was even talking bout the ex wife leavin

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 1:36 am gunslingergregi

        see ya can love a bitch and heart broke and be good after find another chick to love

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 1:39 am gunslingergregi

        yea told her 3 years before she left to gtfo then three years later she did
        hmm
        see a pattern
        got tired of current bitch told her ass too leave a few times now and she did but took her back
        but then yea ya know she looking to stay and keep coming back till she can get me at my lowest point

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  39. on May 13, 2014 at 12:23 am thrust

    so apparently i made a fucking ass out of myself last friday night – was with the ex and she was introducing me to her friends..

    i guess i asked them if theyve made out with my ex etc when we were introduced.

    later on they called me weird because of it, and im losing major frame now.

    fucking rattled and just not in a good state. i feel like crawling in a cave and never coming out

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  40. on May 13, 2014 at 12:28 am thrust

    looks like i made a major fag out of myself this past friday on my first night off in a couple years.

    was in a bottle service booth with the ex as my date when her friends where introduced. i asked them if they have made out with my ex yet..

    i was drunk and nervous. apparently they all called me weird. ive never been called weird. ive lost major frame and all i wanna do is crawl in a cave and die.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 12:30 am thrust

      .and now i look retarted posting 3times. beautiful

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:42 am Will

        Haha.

        Thrust, me in you are in the same boat. Not in the fact that I also lost frame, but instead that we both have OCD and anxiety over how we interact with the one girl that we’re trying to continue to fuck. It’s too mind consuming and it’s honestly annoying.

        Honestly it’s just a matter of meeting another girl just as cute/sexy and fucking her.

        But then I get caught up with how the fuck do you keep a girl for the long haul. It’s like I get that my dick is big and I’m a good fuck…but are you really this big of a whore?

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:12 am gunslingergregi

        in all honesty get the fuck out of us
        really the bitches are whacked

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:15 am gunslingergregi

        ya got to have something else that is stable come back for insane drama land vactions but shit not all the time
        its fun to think of changing a bitch but really there are other bitches like the one ya want to change her into and better
        i’ll let ya know after I escape this shithole

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 10:49 am Amy

        Oh thrust, WHY are you going on dates w her. You know what you have to do. You have to cut her off completely, at least for a while. Go stone cold. If she’s a 9 and you can’t find any others then find a 7.5 or 8 to at least take the edge off. This chick is way too far in your head. She may be hot but she’s otherwise unworthy of you.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 11:57 am gunslingergregi

        the good part Is that she went to a friends house in the three day she was gone and this chick she been friends with for long time was off drugs and she said the chick had some nice shit
        so that is a good development cause I want nice shit lol

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 10:35 am key

      We’ve all been there

      But remember, it’s a fucking NIGHTCLUB. it’s supposed to be a damn party.

      While you worried about your “awkward” introduction, people in the next booth were doing blow, vomiting and screwing each other.

      Who cares if her lame friends didn’t get your little joke. Laugh it off, forget about it and charge ahead. Only your projection of shame or embarrassment afterwards allowed them to label you “weird.”

      You should have been having fun, not brooding over a perceived social misstep.

      Everybody loves the crazy guy who unapologetically says whatever he wants. Life is a crashing bore without them. Only the crazy guy who shows remorse, shame or regret is “weird.” Own it.

      Nobody cares, man. So get with the program. You’re allowed to be retarded. It’s a damn party.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:20 pm thrust

        I wasn’t worried about the situation until the ex brought it up last night.

        Then I was like – ohh ffffuck. That’s all.

        And yeah you’re totally right key, its a fucking damn party, though I guess the ex took the meeting her gfs seriously enough that I went overboard.

        It was a snowball effect last night that fucked me up.

        @Amy – I’m not babe. Well ok the club night I suppose was kinda a date. I didnt really think of it as one. Yeah, I called my best friend last night and he chewed me apart – saying the old thrust wouldnt fucking dare take any of this etc. I agreed – I know my issue – she’s a dirty drug and I chase it – when I get it (as in I violently fuck her) it’s fucking bliss.

        Then she brings up guyfriends etc – throughout our entire relationship, I know she lived a double life. I only saw one side of her – her side with me – not the crazy wild party slut coke whore that she doesn’t display to me.

        It’s a total mindfuck, and shit would be a lot easier to handle if I had some true buddies around here who haven’t either moved away, or are up as late as I am when my day is over. I’v been alone too long in my life – I’m fed up with it. Last night was me completely losing my frame with no one else around to see how pathetic I’ve become.

        She just texted me:

        her “who’s coming tn?”

        her “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to end that to you. I was overlooking our messages and didnt switch convos..”

        I texted back “its ok”

        like wtf else am I going to send – anything else would sound butthurt

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:57 pm Amy

        “her “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to end that to you. I was overlooking our messages and didnt switch convos..””

        Lol 99.99999% of the time girls text this it’s bs. She’s baiting you. You know what I get when I pull that shit? Just an “lol”. Because he knows it’s bs, and other than being mildly amused at my little reindeer games, he really doesn’t care. Just ignore her.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:50 pm thrust

        so my answer to her was pussy. fantastic.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:58 pm walawala

        @thrust “until she brought it up…”

        I’ve been struggling with this for several months now until recently I’ve stopped.

        Who cares what SHE thinks? The issue now is for you to sort out your inner game and understand why you think she’s more special than any other girls.

        You have a scarcity mentality.

        I’d like to see a post on dealing with oneitis because I’ve struggled with it and have had to really dig deep to understand it. I now have a better handle on my own.

        It’s self-discipline and a belief in yourself.

        Maybe you need to get angry as a first step of breaking away. That’s what i did.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 4:02 pm thrust

        this is it. too much of portraying myself as a giant vag on this site.

        cold turkey. my own fault.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 4:11 pm thrust

        always appreciate the comments, wala.

        ch does have a ‘oneitis’ post. pretty sure you even commented in it – it was back in sept 2010.

        im mad as hell – until i become indifferent (which both of us never will because the physical attraction will always be there) then is when i dont have to try and fake this shit.

        but again, this is all so bush league on my part that im more dissapointed in myself for being suck in again. such poor form.

        this is day 1 i guess. and she will text me. all i have to do is ignore it.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 4:50 pm YaReally

        @thrust
        lol awesome. Props on going out.

        “i asked them if they have made out with my ex yet..i was drunk and nervous. apparently they all called me weird.”

        It’s just ’cause you were nervous. I can’t even count the number of girls out there who probably think I’m weird as fuck because I ran into them at the start of my night and said some offensive/sexual shit that’s MONEY when I’m in the zone, but my voice shakes when I say it or I doubt how funny it was and they pick up on that instinctively and it BECOMES weird because of that lol

        Compound that with your having one-itisy feelings for her that kick back in here and there and it’s a recipe for “ah fuck I suuuuuck” cave-crawling.

        @key
        “While you worried about your “awkward” introduction, people in the next booth were doing blow, vomiting and screwing each other.”

        lol I like to joke that I’m making an ass out of myself so that all my buddies look cooler. The ultimate wingman, throwing himself under a bus! lol Rest assured no matter how retarded you were, there were a dozen people 10x as retarded there.

        “Everybody loves the crazy guy who unapologetically says whatever he wants. Life is a crashing bore without them. Only the crazy guy who shows remorse, shame or regret is “weird.” Own it.”

        Ya, this. Russell Brand says fucked up shit, but he gets away with it because he doesn’t doubt that everything he says is awesome and everyone should love it. Once you doubt it for a split second, boom, you’re done. Stand-up comedians run into the same problem when they tell jokes and don’t fully own them. The same joke that killed last week fizzles because the audience picked up on their self-doubt (or sometimes they didn’t even HAVE self-doubt but they had one person say “that’s not funny” and instead of going “lol lighten up” they go “it wasn’t?? I thought it was…oh man…maybe it wasn’t…spiral spiral spiral into self-doubt”

        “I wasn’t worried about the situation until the ex brought it up last night.”

        Your chick is bat-shit BTW and she may even just be making that up lol If you didn’t see her friends be weirded out by you, they might not have been at all, but she’s just fucking with you.

        Your chick is drama and mind-games.

        “though I guess the ex took the meeting her gfs seriously enough that I went overboard.”

        No, fuck her, you’re not dating and her “serious” shit is stupid lol It’s retarded. It’s like a 5 year old mad at you for not taking her tea party seriously and introducing yourself formally enough to Mr. Snuggles the stuffed animal she set beside the Barbie doll at the tea table. Would that affect your mood at ALL? Fuck no, you’d lol and move on about your day with no fucks given.

        Even if you like, just shat on her friend’s hand when she held it out to say hello. Oh no, what’s going to happen? Her friend you give no fucks about thinks the guy she’s not even dating is weird and then they continue to be friends. Ahhhh!!! Where’s that cave?!?! lol no, fuck all that. Their world is stupid and inconsequential to you…you’re a man, they’re in YOUR world, not the other way around.

        So don’t sweat it. Your girl is just fuckin with your head ’cause she knows it’ll work. Can’t say I disagree with the notion of avoiding her for a few months…but you’ll have to go out and take action to build a social circle you can distract yourself with in the meantime. Otherwise you’ll just sit around at home and think about txting her till she sends the next “accidental txt” that sends you on another emotional rollercoaster.

        “It’s a total mindfuck, and shit would be a lot easier to handle if I had some true buddies around here who haven’t either moved away, or are up as late as I am when my day is over. I’v been alone too long in my life – I’m fed up with it. Last night was me completely losing my frame with no one else around to see how pathetic I’ve become.”

        It’s all good. We all hit those points. Use it as motivation. Going out, “The Field” shoves your sticking points and weak spots in your face and grinds them in and rubs salt in the wounds until you fix them. So last week was your wake-up call that you’ve slipped and it’s time to get back to the “old thrust who wouldnt fucking dare take any of this”

        Here’s some Tyler on this:

        “like wtf else am I going to send – anything else would sound butthurt”

        Send nothing. Remember the golden rule: You don’t have to reply to every txt.

        “Lol 99.99999% of the time girls text this it’s bs. She’s baiting you. You know what I get when I pull that shit? Just an “lol”. Because he knows it’s bs, and other than being mildly amused at my little reindeer games, he really doesn’t care. Just ignore her.”

        Yup. Exactly. You fell for a classic. No txt or a “lol” is the perfect.

        It’s funny ’cause when a guy tries the same tactic (“oops that txt was for someone else”) girls all know he’s full of shit lol I’ve tried it and seen some buddies try it and girls recognize their own move being wielded by an amateur at it lol

        But guys fall for it hook line & sinker every damn time.

        “but again, this is all so bush league on my part that im more dissapointed in myself for being suck in again. such poor form.”

        lol no worries. No one here will judge you except guys who don’t go out and haven’t experienced a crash like this before themselves. This is all part of the process.

        It’s like you took a few years off the gym and you’ve built up a habit of going to McDonald’s every day. It’ll take a lot of work to wean yourself off the McD’s habit and get back in shape at the gym.

        But the first step is by walking past the McD’s instead of into it, and entering the gym to lift some weights. 🙂

        “this is day 1 i guess. and she will text me. all i have to do is ignore it.”

        Try deleting her phone number from your phone. Write it down on a piece of paper if you want and leave that paper at a buddy’s place or tucked away at work or something where it’s very inconvenient to get to it but you COULD if you had some emergency (’cause your brain won’t let you just flat out delete it incase there’s some magical emergency where you needed to contact her, even tho there never is lol).

        Or change her name to a countdown “XX DO NOT REPLY 10 DAYS” and not allow yourself to reply to anything until the countdown gets to 0.

        Or change her name to “XX DRAMA COKE WHORE SUCKING OTHER DICKS” lol something to make it less appealing to reply.

        It’ll be hard, and the more you ignore her the more she’ll try to get your attention…and if you don’t replace her by throwing yourself passionately into something (preferably into building a social circle and socializing and meeting new girls, but even lifting weights or a hobby works…till you get horny lol), you’ll end up going back for another helping of McDonald’s fries.

        Good luck dude! We all go thru this shit.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:24 pm Amy

        thrust, if you have an iphone you can block her #, drama-free. It’s not a carrier block so she’ll have no idea you’re not getting her txts or calls. You just never see them. It might help if you think it will be tough to ignore her.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:57 pm cryo

        @thrust I’m going through a similar rough patch my man, you’re not alone. Delete that bitch and pretend she’s dead. Erase and replace, its the only way.

        @yareally Thanks for posting the vids, good inspiration

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 9:00 pm thrust

        ok.

        this is some quality shit.

        @YaReally – thanks for taking the time. I’ll be re-reading this comment thread daily so it can seep into my subconscious.

        @Amy – na babe, I’m an android kinda guy – tho nice to know there is such an option out there.

        @Cryo – let me know how you situation is. Only reason why I’m whoring the boards is because I knew my emotions were grabbing hold of my frame – and all the teachings CH has given were being evaporated, so I had to reach out..

        I’m chilling with a couple bouncer friends of mine tonight, and placing a call to my best buddy after that – baby steps, I guess.

        thanks again.

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 11:58 pm walawala

        @YaReally great post….

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      • on May 14, 2014 at 9:16 am cryo

        @thrust What you said about feeling alone and not having your friends around, I can relate. I’m in the northeast US and my friends are in Los Angeles, lol.

        I’m used to going out alone but I know how it can make you crazy after a while. I know I will be ok and I know you will to. Just keep plugging away at your goals, whether it be building a social circle like yareally suggested or learning the ukulele or some shit. Whatever it takes to occupy your mind.

        Some options for meeting people include meetup.com (even though most of these people are goons and aspies), taking a class at some local univershitty, or just striking up conversation with random plebs until you make a connection. Just watch out for the gays, they’ll try to rape you (if you’re under 14).

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  41. on May 13, 2014 at 12:48 am Mr Meaner

    This is a critical CH post for anyone in an LTR.

    Shit tests in relationships are often disguised as nicely wrapped boxes with ribbons on top. What’s lurking inside is a fucking atomic bomb, and they’ll catch out even an experienced campaigner, because they seem so benign.

    The other night I was leaving to pick up some takeaway food, and the missus, already in a bit of a bad mood (lack of attention blah blah) says “Do you want me to come?”

    A seemingly innocuous question requiring a simple answer, right? Wrong.

    I said, “if you want…” Classic projection. Gave her a choice, exactly what I’d want someone to do to me.

    Don’t do what I did.

    Tell her what to do. Treat her as you don’t wanna be treated!

    When your logical, problem-solving male mind is fully engaged you’re a sitting-duck for this type of insidious shit-test.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 1:24 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      What I did in previous relationship and it mostly worked is often not treat her questions seriously or tease her. This can result in you getting by with some answers such as yours because she knows it’s not often you will give them.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:31 am Gro Haila

      I guess congruence is key, but is getting nukular in her face an option in this situation?

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  42. on May 13, 2014 at 1:07 am gunslingergregi

    its the summer its all going to hell I was kissing a pregnant ho for christsake telling her I loved her and shit wtf lol

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 1:07 am gunslingergregi

      in my defense the pregnancy has made her dick sucking powers on some new level he he he

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:08 am gunslingergregi

        then 200k phone calls she beat me down

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:10 am gunslingergregi

        plus I tell every bitch I love em now its not the sacred word it used to be

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:17 am gunslingergregi

        got to say feel pretty good though he he he

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 1:35 am gunslingergregi

        text I sent her
        I talked a lot of shit lol really I think your a good buddy sometimes thnk for cheerin me up

        hopefully mitigate the broken windows and shit

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 12:14 pm gunslingergregi

        maybe it was hot too cause my chick told her if she comes up again she gonna burn down her house with her in it

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  43. on May 13, 2014 at 1:48 am Glengarry

    Heh, quite right. In earlier days, the mental concept wasn’t so much appeasement as “being reasonable” though. She had a request, I could do it, I did it. Great, let’s move on, right? Well, so much for seeing the subtext.

    Beta schlub, when this happens, think to yourself, you’re not being reasonable, you’re appeasing her. Don’t.

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  44. on May 13, 2014 at 2:46 am Appeasement Is No Way To Win Wars Or Women | Tr...

    […] Maxim #54: A woman’s happiness is inversely proportional to efforts to accommodate her demands. Corollary to Maxim #54: The more a woman’s demands are catered, the more irrational will her future demands become.  […]

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  45. on May 13, 2014 at 3:01 am finndistan

    “GIRL: You’re really being an asshole. Why am I with you?
    HADES’ GARDEN HOSE: Sorry. I’ll stop.”

    Hahaha.. I read that as translated in my head.
    HADES’ GARDEN HOSE with a smirk and amusement in his voice: “Sorry for making you suffer. I’ll stop this relationship right now.”

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  46. on May 13, 2014 at 4:01 am Robert in Arabia

    In March of 1697, Hannah Duston’s tiny farm was attacked by a marauding band of Abenaki Indians (alternate sources say they were Mohawks)). They attacked Hannah’s husband Thomas while he was out working in the field, but he managed to run back to the farmhouse and warn his wife of the impending raid. Unfortunately, Hannah was unable to escape – she had just given birth to a child a couple days prior, and wasn’t in any condition to be moved. Hannah, her nursemaid, and her newborn stayed behind, and she encouraged her husband to get out of there and flee with their eight other children while they still could.

    On this day she wasn’t in any position to fight off a swarming horde of warriors, and was quickly captured and forced out of her home. Her house was plundered and torched to the ground, and a subsequent raid on the village of Haverhill resulted in forty additional settlers being killed or captured by the Abenaki.

    Along with the other captives, she was forced at gunpoint to walk north towards Canada. For several days they walked through ankle-deep snow and bitter, freezing cold, traveling nearly fifty miles from Haverhill to present-day Concord, New Hampshire. Anybody who couldn’t keep up was brained in the face with a hatchet, and when Hannah’s child wouldn’t stop crying, her captors gave the kid a post-partum abortion by smacking it against a tree. By the time the party left Concord and started traveling by canoe up the Merrimack River, all that remained of the captives were Hannah, her nursemaid, and some fourteen-year old kid they’d picked up along the way.

    Hannah Duston was a tough New England broad, and she wasn’t going to let the Indians get away with it.

    The next night, while all of the warrior braves were sleeping, Hannah sought her vengeance. She somehow broke free from her restraints and slowly tiptoed her way across the campsite. Using extreme caution, she held her breath, quietly reached into the pack of one of the warriors, closed her fingers around the wooden handle of a razor-sharp tomahawk, and silently pulled it out into the night air.

    Before anybody knew what was going on, Hannah Duston was in the midst of their campfire whirling and slashing at everything she could reach. In the span of just a few seconds, she had killed ten indians with a tomahawk and sent two other warriors sprinting off into the woods screaming their heads off.

    This angry Puritan mother took out an entire raiding party by herself without even blinking.

    The two men who ran off were sure to be returning in the relatively near future. It made sense for the Puritans to not be sitting around a giant pile of corpses when they returned.

    Hannah assembled her friends, grabbed a rifle and some food from the campsite, stole a canoe and headed back towards Haverhill.

    She also went back and scalped the dead Indians before heading out.

    In the canoe, the small group of fugitives paddled desperately trying to get down river before they were caught, recaptured, and harshly executed.

    After a couple days of this nocturnal adventuring, they reached the New Hampshire town of Bradley Cove, where they convinced a local farmer to provide them with food and shelter for the night. From there, they headed out for home, walking the remaining 30+ miles to Haverhill.

    Hannah Duston really didn’t take kindly to being captured, force-marched, and having her kid brutally murdered right in front of her.

    To commemorate the adventures of this frontierswoman, in 1879 an appropriately-grim-looking statue of Mrs. Duston was erected in downtown Haverhill.

    She is believed to be the first American woman to have a public monument built in her honor.

    http://www.badassoftheweek.com/duston.html

    Sources:

    Cook, Bernard. Women and War. ABC-CLIO, 2006.

    James, Edward T., et al. Notable American Women. Harvard Univ. Press, 1971.

    The Story of Hannah Dustin

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  47. on May 13, 2014 at 6:29 am anon

    Tl; dr version: bros before hoes

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  48. on May 13, 2014 at 6:46 am Prov Erbs

    Now I know exactly what I need to do. My CrossFit crazy wife goes 6 times/week and hangs out late. I stopped the going late at night, and starting from this week I will take the car and make sure she will not be able to go on weekends as well. I wish I knew this principle earlier, it’s what I did earlier in life but becoming needy for sex and not wanting to upset her I tiptoed through the last 5 years. No more. Thanks CH as always. I’m surprised at how many of your principles apply to religious (Christian) men like me who have been with only one woman/married for more than a decade.

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    • on May 14, 2014 at 11:24 am Director

      She is cheating on you sunshine.

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  49. on May 13, 2014 at 7:22 am Tyrranous1

    Dictatorship, structural alpha and loss of civil rights due to poor behavior would go a long way towards correcting this and other problems. You are miserable because you are free.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 7:35 am Gro Haila

      Ha hahaha hahahahaaaaaa.

      “Finish ’em”!

      As a field-servant I’m drowning in sooo much freedom. Sooo much freedom! What will I do with all this freedom? Oh Massa please deliver me from this freedom!

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 7:36 am Tyrranous1

        Right on.

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  50. on May 13, 2014 at 7:47 am Grim

    lol this fucking 100 IQ whore smashes his car with a club, takes half his money, destroys his career, has 3.96 GPA (lzozlzozlooz) and gives commencement speech

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/05/12/bts-tiger-woods-ex-graduation-speech.rollins-college.html

    for a man, getting married is literally career and personal happiness suicide.

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  51. on May 13, 2014 at 8:12 am Grim

    un
    fucking
    believable

    http://govtslaves.info/liberal-professor-calls-genocide-says-white-males-consider-suicide-sent-death-camp/

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  52. on May 13, 2014 at 8:37 am Grim

    met 30yo single mom HB9 last night. had her kid when she was 21 (was a mistake but they got married and were married for 4 years). father is a badboy (typical Hispanic male piece of garbage, as they all are, actually) who disappeared “who is so different from her!!” and never sees his kid (because he’s a piece of garbage..watch the nature channel to see how brown and darker skinned fathers behave) she claims to be conservative, catholic, goes to church every week, feminine, tired of being “independent” lzozlozozozzo

    told me she has never actually read the bible even though she goes to church every week. can’t find the time. typical catholic woman. has not a clue about the meaning of the eve story, etc.

    I told her that’s because the bible is a great book for men, women can’t read it and never were expected to read it, that the modern church is garbage feminism, and that what she needs is male leadership.

    I didn’t know if she’d cringe from her feminist brainwashing or not but it seemed like she tingled and got a glimmer in her eye. she sort of looked at me and was silent for a few seconds.

    there will be a day 2 at least. last night was few hours then leave because it was monday and I gotta go to work (and so does she)

    I don’t have time for this bullshit of her wanting me to save her (of course her garbage animal ex husband gives her no money) as I have my own two kids to support. so day 2 will be she comes over to bang or she’s gone.

    I also have another HB9 in same situation except she seems very intelligent amazingly even though she has 2 kids from 2 different dads who gamed her in her catholic church and then disappeared. she is actually sweet I can tell

    nevertheless one of her kids is 6 month baby so that’s never gonna work so she’s gonna just be a fuck buddy or she’s gone too.

    this generation of women is PATHETIC.

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  53. on May 13, 2014 at 8:52 am Grim

    lol women have to be told this fuck us all
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/12/living/love-the-one-youre-with-upwave/index.html?hpt=hp_bn11

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  54. on May 13, 2014 at 8:56 am Onder

    This is a perfect example of what Heartiste was saying –

    I do something like this with the girls I see all the time, and while they get pissed, you can see the glint in their eye and their pussy juices flowing with each jab lol.

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 2:40 pm herb

      Yup. That’s when things are good. 🙂

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 2:49 pm herb

        I wanted to hear some of the edits like, Jacob, you”re a af ing arseroll!

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  55. on May 13, 2014 at 9:06 am Grim

    Your bizarro women are evil story of the day and then I’m done for today, CH. Read carefully. Really high IQ men like CH will get why I say this story is a “women are evil” story.

    Stepmom keeping Casey Kasum from his daughters. If women were not evil, the stepmom would realize that his daughters are her fellow women for one thing and also his fucking daughters but of course women give no fucks about what is right, fair, love, justice, or good.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/12/4112943/judge-expresses-concerns-over.html

    read carefully

    this is yet another reason for a divorced man with kids not to remarry. the fucking new stepmom (wanting her beta bux) gets rights over your own daughters.

    I have given my daughters so much love and when I’m an invalid like Casey Kasum I damned fucking well fucking want my daughters making decisions about my care, not whatever gold digging whore I ended up taking as a second wife only because men biologically need sex.

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  56. on May 13, 2014 at 10:02 am ShanksNes

    Evidently CH is making a beta dent in the life of this omega :P. Here’s an omegle transcript (two minutes old, fresh and raw)

    You: f?
    Stranger: Ya
    You: age?
    Stranger: 16
    Stranger: U?
    You: sweet slutty 16
    You: where are u from?
    Stranger: Who are u calling a slut?
    You: u…
    You: does that turn u on that much? .. geez
    Stranger: Rape me
    You: sure.. got skype id?
    Stranger: Not for u…

    (She disconnects)…

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 11:48 am gunslingergregi

      well I guess question would be your age state and is it legal and did ya get parents permission
      otherwise not worth fucking up your life

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  57. on May 13, 2014 at 10:51 am key

    Don’t act like you don’t care. Actually don’t care.

    It’s not sociopathic. You’re an island. Take it or leave it. And the woman will always take it.

    And if she doesn’t, you won’t care.

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  58. on May 13, 2014 at 1:09 pm Ronin

    This post is so Money, baby.

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  59. on May 13, 2014 at 1:58 pm kaizersoze71

    women want “excitement” in their lives. If they are not getting “excitement”, then they create drama, or worse yet, chaos.

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  60. on May 13, 2014 at 2:03 pm Just Saying

    Appeasement never works when it comes to women. You need to turn them over your knee if they act too much like a child. That is what most of them are looking for – a man that doesn’t put up with their childish antics, and if they act like a child they get treated like a child. Up to a point – after you tan their bottom till it’s a rosy red, enjoy her for what she was meant to be used for.

    That is what women want when they act up – to be put in their place and to be shown just what they are useful to you for, and WHY you keep her around. Anything else is seen as weakness – which is what it is. It really is as simple as that. Afterwards, they will purr… Most women today lacked a strong hand in growing up, and search for it for the rest of their life. It can be you – or not. That is your choice… And yes, they almost all have “Daddy” issues – use it to your benefit.

    It’s all a question of Dominance – they are looking for a man they they can be submissive to – that is what women have always wanted. That is why they have become more and more unhappy, as they have gotten more rights and responsibilities. Give her what she needs, (not what she says she needs) and she’ll reward you by not wanting to ever go anywhere else. Of course, the best way to ensure that, is to have other options of your own, so that she sees that she NEEDS to keep you happy, or you’ll ditch her. Most women don’t mind sharing a man that gives her what she wants – which is almost the exact opposite of what she’ll SAY she wants. They are confusing if you listen to them – so don’t. Look at what she responds to – it is the only real truth.

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    • on May 22, 2014 at 6:12 am Never Mind the Balzac

      That’s a great Father-Son speech right there.

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  61. on May 13, 2014 at 2:04 pm Cragsleeper

    I recently dated an attractive younger woman who wanted me to take total control right at the beginning but I fumbled. I recall how visibly annoyed she got when I asked her where she wanted to sit during our second time out. I found that amusing but instead of properly showing it, which I think would have salvaged me asking that question, I bowed to my socialized training to suppress it. Later on we’re texting and it turns into a stupid game of her acting like she wants to go out and then saying no once I suggested doing so. She scored three such rejections in one night. Yes, I suggested, which I know is why I failed. Doing so multiple times in one night was utterly reprehensible. I’ve turned out to be much more thick-headed about this stuff than I thought. I know what to do, but then I get in the presence of attractive women and I revert back to the sexless beta routine I grew up on.

    When we first kissed I kept it going way too long and she finally pulled away. I laugh to myself now about it, how pathetic I can be when put on the spot. I don’t think I was totally sunk even at that low point, b/c she initiated another text exchange later after having done so before. She said the next week was looking free, but I never responded. I know she was probably still giving me a chance or she wouldn’t have still been texting me, but I was too embarrassed with my ineptitude up to that point to continue.

    If I’m being honest, none of that entire dating experience was enjoyable other than the prolonged kiss. I’m sure this gets fun eventually, probably when I start getting good at it. :/

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    • on May 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm Cragsleeper

      …and then I use a smiley. Christ

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm herb

        Well, since you mentioned “Christ”…I say..

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      • on May 13, 2014 at 3:20 pm herb

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  62. on May 13, 2014 at 4:04 pm Anonymous

    New black keys out today. It’s good.

    Only low iq doichebags don’t get it.

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  63. on May 13, 2014 at 7:54 pm SRBEL

    Referenced this in my blog, analogous to Australian Politics.

    http://behindenemylimes.blogspot.com.au/2014/05/the-budget.html

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  64. on May 13, 2014 at 11:01 pm Lightning Round – 2014/05/14 | Free Northerner

    […] Don’t appease women. […]

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  65. on May 14, 2014 at 6:54 am theasdgamer

    Interesting post and relevant for me. Shameless Self-Promotion Disclaimer: This post ties in with my observations about grappling which you can find at my blog in my post about Sexual Macrodynamics. http://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/sexual-macrodynamics/

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  66. on May 14, 2014 at 11:47 am Director

    leeminh0 on May 13, 2014 at 9:14 am
    Why men don’t like drama? after all in ancient times it was the men who kept forever wars ,second world war was caused 100% by men, and suddenly after weapons became very destructive they became scared and wanted peace.

    Fucking faggot sock puppet.

    More wars have occurred since 1945 than you can shake a fucking stick at. Post1945 has been a goddamn bloodbath.

    Appeasement is what the weak do to the strong. Most of the world appeases the US because the US is a mean hombre.

    However the weak must appease the strong. If a man is weaker than his women she might as well strap a cock on an ream his arse till he dies.

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