The CH mailbag received a while back results from an unpublished study that added confirmation to the weight of evidence that househusbands (aka kitchen bitches, sexual egalitarians, plush manlets) have worse sex lives and unhappier wives. Quote from the original CH post:
When men are men and women are women, the sex is more frequent. And probably hotter, too. When men are scalzied manboobs and women are manjawed feminists, the bedroom is an arid wasteland of dashed passion.
Sexual polarity — the primal force that adheres the cosmic cock to the celestial snatch — is the truth of truths that belies every feminist assertion ever made in the history of that insipid, leprotic ideology.
We have to be careful, as we were left with explicit instructions to not reveal the source of the study or the precise study results. But this was too juicy to pass up, so an attempt will be made to paraphrase the important findings without risking confidentiality.
1. A woman’s sexual attraction and general satisfaction increases when her man does “masculine” chores like DIY projects or car repair. Her sexual attraction doesn’t budge when he does “feminine” household chores.
2. Households where men do most of the chores were those most likely to argue frequently about sex.
3. Female breadwinners argue more about finances, household chores *and* sex life. The less money the woman made relative to the man, the fewer arguments and the better her general relationship satisfaction.
4. Equal division of major financial decisions decreased attraction, feelings of love, and general satisfaction in the women, and this decrease was even stronger than the decrease seen when household chores were shared. The more responsibility the men had for financial decision-making, the more sexually and romantically satisfied their spouses/partners.
5. Men were more attracted to women the more the women cooked. So ladies, you can make your man happier by donning the apron and sizzling the bacon he brings home. (Sexist? Yes. Reality? Yes. You’ll just have to resolve your dissonance on your own time.)
6. Across the board, women who are breadwinners are less satisfied with everything.
7. Arguments about chores, money, sex life, and romance were highest in couples where the woman made all or most of the decisions. Female decision-making status was an even stronger determinant of relationship dissatisfaction than female breadwinner status. Women can handle making more money in a relationship, but they despise being the leader in a relationship.
8. Argument frequency decreased among female breadwinners if they were not the primary decision-makers. Lesson for men: You can have a happy relationship with a woman who makes more than you as long as you remain the dominant force in her non-work life. Or: GAME SAVES MARRIAGES.
9. Most dishearteningly for the equalist pissboys, men who do most of the chores in households where the woman is the breadwinner have the highest likelihood of frequent disagreements about chores, sex, and romance. Let that sink in: The more household work you do to compensate for your girlfriend or wife making more money than you, the bitchier she gets!
The source explains why this study has yet to be published:
But now that the findings are there [ed: N is large], they are reluctant to release this to the media. They fear that releasing such findings might create negative press for us instead of positive media attention. Their reluctance annoys me for many reasons, and I really want to get my study published. I have till XXXXXX to come up with a good reason for why they should publish this study. If they do, then my investment bank, a reputable objective third party would be behind this finding. Normally, they have the ability to circulate our studies through dozens of major media outlets (WSJ, NYT, NPR etc). Thus, it would be really helpful to getting this kind of idea into the public consciousness to have the study released through my investment bank.
But right now there are barriers to getting my study released. The marketing head isn’t very comfortable with the findings I gave her. She thinks it isn’t a story at all and doesn’t know how to market it. I want to somehow convince her to go forward with it. Can you help me come up with ideas? Right now, she says I have to “soften” it and come up with an explanation of what investment management people could do about these findings. Those recommended actions would have to be things HR would not frown on.
Another great example of how female-dominated HR retards progress and the pursuit of knowledge. But hey, everybody is kumbaya, so the sacrifice is worth it, right ladies?
Anyhow, a “softening” lede attuned to your particular clients’ sensibilities would be something like, “Financially responsible husbands make happier marriages.” Or, “A division of labor means an addition of love.”

[…] The Misery Of The Househusband […]
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WO IS DA GBFMZ!!
DA GBFMZ BE LOOKING 4 A WIVEZ AS GOOD AS MS OBAMAZ FOR MANY MANY YEARZ
and yet da GBFM, da poor devil of a sub-sub
remainz singles
and cries himself to sleep every nightz
wahh wahhh wahhhh wo is me wahh wahhh wahh zllzozozzo wahahhh
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DA GBFM WIFE-SEEKING DATA PROFILEZZZ: PLEASE HELP AS I HAVE NOT YET FOUND A WIFEYZ!
TITLE: SWM (WITH GIANT COKASZ) SEEKING CHRISTIAN DALROCKKIAN WIFEY WIFE WHO HAS HAD HER FUN, TAKEN LOSTAS COCKASZ IN DA BUNGHOZZLZIO, AND IS READY TO SETTLE DOWN AND SPENDZ MY MONEYZLZOZOZOZ
lozozozoz DA GBFM’S ONLINE DATINGZ PROFILEZ LZOzozlzozlzozlzoz
lzozlzzzzo da GBFM dont no online datetz as A) i have not eneouch cockeasz to handaled all da psuusysys pusysys pusysysy dat come my way in real life in da coffee shopd shich i call starfuckszx as da GBFM is da fuckstatr in da coffe shop lzlzozo beoyenend faacebook and buttcobook and assbook lzlzozl and 2) der is too much risk dat her picturez was taken when she was hotter, younger tighter thirty pounds lighter dureing the commencnemnt of her massive cock carosuslel crusade and bountiful buttcocking battlez zzoozoz so da GBFM letsz da betasz pay da oldsnatch.com datng feez to look @ a chix pre-bernankifed photoso zlzozlzoozozoz
but here woudld be my profielz if da GBFM did onlinez date: lzozoz
GBFM SEEKSZ TIGTHT PUSYSYSYIZYOSUSOUSSIUOJZOZzlzlzlzlzoz
TITLE: LOTSAS COCKAS 4U 2 serve ur ginatinglelzlzol but not buttztingzlzlzolzoz
“my name is da gbfm of worldwide fame and renown. i don’t buttcockz cause my cockas too big and ur anus (not da planet uranus lzozzlz) is likely too small, unless u have been buttcocked many timez, in which case you have been bernnakififed and deosuled & ur anus IS likely big as da planet URANUS lzozozo and i don’t no waannna gina cock you no more as u are proabably as a big a pain in da ass as da pain in uranus ass from all da buttccokingz during your cock carsoule crusisidng days of whorey glory zlzlzoozo.
my ideaz of an idealsz date is to talk about da GREAT BOOKZ FOR MENZ which menasz dat u shut up and da GBFM doesz all da talkingz cause we know womenz never read homer’s iliad nor odyssey notr bible on their own (Except dey be fmeinists frankfurt schools deocntsructing da great books instead of respecting da GBFM’s frankfurter in der mouth lzoozlzoz), but womenz only readz vampire gina-tingly butt-tingly crap like twilight and julia prostsititute roberts book eat, prey, butthext”
even dough my last seneveenteen girlz complained dat da GBFM is soooo complicated, my ruels rulez arez simple:
bring da movbiez = lostas cokas 4u
bring no movies = no cockasz 4u
P.S. and please pelasez please i beg of you do not waste da GBFM’s precious itme. time. pleasez post up-tod-ate picture of you TODAY! do NOT post pictures of you when you were younger hotter tighter and fifty pounds lighter back in da day when you were givingz it up for free 2 all da buttccokerz in your bernkifiing dorm of student debt and anal debaucheyr lzlzoz as da debt was augmented in sectrieve meethingsz of da fed and da nauth violted in sectrely taped buttcheidnt sessionz zlzl, and pretending dat because you were once hot da GBFM now owes u moneysz to get down on what you gave away for free before u contrtced dat STD. lzozolzolzoo
i like to travel, and we can travel togethers. i will travel form da bedroom to da couch to play grand theft autoz, while youwill travel from da bed to da kitchen to make da GBFM a morning omelelete with lotssa cheddar cheese but not form between your kness zlzlozlzlo
if u are thirty and have had ur fun and r looking to “get serious,” then please get serious! da gbfm ain’t no backcup beta nor da last branch you can grab as you fall from da tree of your sexual peak in your early twentietsz which you wasted on lsostas cockas riding da cock carousleuesz. and now u see da GBFM’s massive lotsas cockas and mistake it for a thick tree branch u can grab on just beofree you hit da ground of eterna spinterhood zlozlzolzolzo causez da gbfm don’t give no cockasz to dose dat have “had their fun,” bt only does fresh young hot tight tights who r having funz zlozozoz
when you comtact me please include:
how many pounds u have gained since your profile picture was taken (rounded to nearest tens of poundsz lzozlzl).
\how many timez you have been bernnakified via:
how many cockasz u have taken in da buttholzizo since your profile picture was taken.
how many pounds u have *REALLY* gained since your profile picture was taken.
how many cockasz u have taken in da ginazizo since your profile picture was taken.
how many cockasz u have taken in da mouthollzizo since your profile picture was takenz.
i know dat you wills undertted your bernifiaction numbers by a factor of 5 or more in da same way da fed undesrsrtated inflationz, so i have my eocnomistsz grad stdudnets muiltiply your ansers by 5 lzoozozoz so if you sayou have been bernankkekified 10 timesz we will know it was at least fifty and proebeleeby more zlzoozozoz u do da mathz lzozoz
da gbfm looks forwards to meetingz youz and may r luvz last 4eever or at leats until da gbfm has cumed zlzlzloz sploododeged zlzlzlozo whichever cumsz firts zlzlzolzozozlzoz
RELIGION: Chruchcianz, as I beelieve dat JEuss will frogive forgive you and ur hot sister for our threesomsznz lzlzlzlzlzo & u will be made whoel and good as new and can still mary a beta providerz and prey to jesus 2 heal heal ur sore buttholiolozlz and bring a good man ur wya zlzozlolzo
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http://www.lightlybraisedturnip.com/story-for-women-on-matchcom/2013/3/16/a-parable-for-the-older-single-women-of-matchcom-told-by-pro.html
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“i know dat you wills undertted your bernifiaction numbers by a factor of 5 or more in da same way da fed undesrsrtated inflationz, so i have my eocnomistsz grad stdudnets muiltiply your ansers by 5 lzoozozoz so if you sayou have been bernankkekified 10 timesz we will know it was at least fifty and proebeleeby more zlzoozozoz u do da mathz lzozoz”
I’ll have NBER get to work on deriving the hedonic bernankifation adjustment formula. Maybe if we deflate the number of premarital lotsas cockas in the vaginas by averaging it with the number of postmarital BJs…
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GBFM got drunk and texted the wrong nos.–the Frankfurter School and Bernanke–at midnight:
“My apt. in 20 min. lzlo”
Five burly gays cornholed him until five a.m. Bernanke took his cash and left.
The Frankfurter School texted him the next day:
“U wzu bohnghololz by da bessst. lozlolozlololz”
Bernanke called from a 900 number and left a message that GBFM could get his money back if he returned the call, which GBFM promptly dialed. After an hour on the line, GBFM realized that Bernanke was simply taking more money from him.
bungholololozlolzlolz
Then GBFM went off on dalrock and marcus again.
ROTFLMAO
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da gbfm don’t no drinkz
stay witty get more tittyzlzzlzlzol
your fanatasyzzy are good fro a fine young manz with a tiny cockasa and large bunzgzhjzhzozl
keep living da buzthztex dreemasz!
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So how’s Myril doing?
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HE YHEATETEISTSTESZ! HERTEIETSTEEZZ!!!
MANY OF DA WOMENZ DA GBFMZ ASSOCIATESZ WITH ARE BREADWINNEERZZ.
AS DA GBFM IS DA PIMP AND DEY ALL BEATCHES AND HOS MAKING ME MONEYEZ ZLOZOZOZOZozolzlzolzozol
DA GBFM MADE A VIDEOEZ TO PROVES ITZ ZLZOZOZO
lzozozozoz ozmzgzzozolzo
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> “If they do, then my investment bank, a reputable objective third party would be behind this finding.”
Could we get some info on the ethnicities?
Disproportionately Jewesses?
Korean American Princesses?
Chinese American Princesses?
Cow-Worshipping American Princesses?
And how about the human females: Papist -vs- Christian?
Ethnic breakdown would be beyond invaluable – it would be truly priceless.
Thanks!
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Protestants are not even christians, your Taxonomy is wrong on that respect…
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These studies have been done and published. Tell your source to fear not, he is only confirming the trail that has already been blazed by others.
http://www.asanet.org/journals/ASR/Feb13ASRFeature.pdf
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Not related to this post – however, this is too good to not pass on: http://the-toast.net/2014/05/13/liberal-dude-erotica/
A satire on “liberal dude erotica” – the author just nailed it and the comments are hysterical and confirming. Worth noting that this is a somewhat feminist blog too – yet again proving CH is spot on…
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The backpfeifengesicht was too strong for me to endure the whole entry.
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The Omega speaks:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7762652
“I just want to mention for completeness’ sake, and only because it would be taboo to express this in a magazine article: if you’re really unhappy with the dating rat race, and it’s genuinely not realistic for you to improve your chances by optimizing these superficials, it is possible to just opt out of everything. I know it’s controversial and for some reason it upsets a lot of people when I tell them that I just stopped. Contrary to popular belief, this mating thing is not something which you absolutely must accomplish. I’ve crossed to this other side, and it’s really really peaceful here. ;)”
This is from a community which I’ve noticed has one of the highest highest mean IQs. Mostly Caucasian, oriental, and Indian engineers and scientists.
Thus begins the reign of the Hodorians.
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DA GBFM was looking for love in all the wrong placez, and he ended up with herpes on his eyebrowz
lzozozozlzolzoz
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“even dough my last seneveenteen girlz complained dat da GBFM is soooo complicated, my ruels rulez arez simple:
bring da movbiez = lostas cokas 4u
bring no movies = no cockasz 4u
P.S. and please pelasez please i beg of you do not waste da GBFM’s precious itme. time. pleasez post up-tod-ate picture of you TODAY! do NOT post pictures of you when you were younger hotter tighter and fifty pounds lighter back in da day when you were givingz it up for free 2 all da buttccokerz in your bernkifiing dorm of student debt and anal debaucheyr lzlzoz as da debt was augmented in sectrieve meethingsz of da fed and da nauth violted in sectrely taped buttcheidnt sessionz zlzl, and pretending dat because you were once hot da GBFM now owes u moneysz to get down on what you gave away for free before u contrtced dat STD. lzozolzolzoo”
That was the best laugh all day. It’s “game” on dating sites. Just in your face! lzozolzolzoo
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> “givingz it up for free 2 all da buttccokerz in your bernkifiing dorm of student debt and anal debaucheyr”
Can you imagine the mother of your children having taken it up the backside from some other dude, before you met her?.
Hell, can you imagine your child imagining that shit about its own mother?
God have mercy on our souls.
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LOLOL
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Man, I could tell you of some frigging horror stories of where healthcare workers contract herpes from their patients.
Frigging nightmarish shit.
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How about patients diagnosed with herpes in the colostomy bag hole?
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Sounds like it could be written by James M. or Albert E. although they would have the gravitas to push it out whatever objections the female “marketing head” would have come up with.
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So many Americans see being housewife as disrespectful
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Too funny to not pass on: http://the-toast.net/2014/05/13/liberal-dude-erotica/
Satirical essay on “liberal dude erotica” – the comments are hysterical and quite revealing – CH could have written this.
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crap – double post – sorry ’bout that
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Cheddar OD.
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to get it published rewrite your conclusion that even though guys got more sex it was only because the woman feared for their lifes and wernt generally happier. heh
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Regarding investment management:
Divorce destroys wealth. Marriages with men in traditionally female roles will be less happy, less profitable, and include risk of catastrophic wealth destruction caused by marriage dissolution. Investment managers should advise men and women to seek marriage relationships correlating to happiness, and therefore to profit.
Then propose the follow-up study: are women and men equally successful unmarried? How does this compare to married heterosexual couples. Control for widows, widowers, and divorced individuals, second marriages, et cetera.
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ungamed women destroy wealth
if she thinks you’re lucky to be with her she’ll spend it all
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Concur.
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“if she thinks you’re lucky to be with her she’ll spend it all”
and if she thinks she’s lucky to have you, she won’t spend it without asking first.
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This:
Then propose the follow-up study: are women and men equally successful unmarried? How does this compare to married heterosexual couples.
Tough study, you would have to be really clear on your operational definitions for “success” “wealth” etc.
Even if women make more and earn more, they spend more and are more in debt, you would need to including factors like Net Income and savings in the calculations to see where men edge out.
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> “Tough study, you would have to be really clear on your operational definitions for “success” “wealth” etc.”
In the final analysis, there is one and only one measure of anything that is of any importance whatsoever: Total Fertility Rate of the females.
A distant second would be: Does the baby daddy stick around to inocculate the woman and her children from the poison of The Frankfurt School?
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@reco
Other thread is too far back so replying to this ( https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/why-night-game-is-dying/#comment-561759 ) here:
“But this is still pre-bang and I do not want to oversexualize this and fire up her ASD too much. What am I missing here?”
Remember the golden rule: You do NOT have to reply to every text.
You don’t want to reply too boyfriendy because she’ll fall in love. You don’t want to reply too sexual because you haven’t banged yet so you might trigger ASD.
You have two other options:
1) DON’T REPLY. If her txt isn’t related to meeting up or sex, don’t reply, or at the very least don’t ask for more details or anything. But ideally just don’t reply so she learns “ok he’s not the guy to complain about my day to”, but you aren’t being sexual and scaring her off. It’s a win/win situ.
2) Reply by cutting her thread and talking about something you want to talk about…this’ll be easier once you bang, ’cause she goes “my day sucks” and you go “you need me under that desk, tongue between your thighs ;)” and just cut her thread and go into sexual stuff. But for now you could cut her thread and just talk about something that isn’t sexual but isn’t listening to her shit and being her boyfriend, like “my day sucks” “I just bought lawnmower fuel. Shit is expensive”. You’re not falling into her “be my boyfriend and listen to my problems” frame but also not triggering anything sexual that’ll trigger her ASD since you haven’t banged yet.
I recommend #1 because 1) it’s less time-intensive on your end, 2) it makes her hamster spin more and makes her more determined to meet you face to face so she can shit-test you with “you never reply to ask how my day is!!” and 3) it’s a lot easier to fuck up option 2 than option 1 lol
“I realize that I may have looked a little too beta in my replies but I have played her very well. And she does seem to be smitten with me and really into contacting me and always trying to rekindle with me even after a few days.”
It’s not that you look beta. It’s not that you can’t get her. You can ABSOLUTELY get her. That’s inevitable, she likes you, it’s GOING to happen. But think longer term about AFTER you get her. What frame do you want to establish with her and are you establishing that frame from the start?
If you want a casual passionate affair, but she throws boyfriend tests at you and you entertain those tests, she will fall in love fast and expect you to leave your wife and get her heart hurt and probably cause you drama and keep trying to get you to do boyfriend stuff with her (and maybe even stop putting out or hold off on putting out until you agree to something more serious etc.).
So what you’re doing with these replies where you ask how her day is and ESPECIALLY where you use cute lovey nicknames with her (my nicknames for girls are pornstar, babe, sexy, naughty girl, etc. or they’re teases/in-jokes that she gets…no sweetie or honey or anything lovey-dovey) is you’re letting her pretend you’re her boyfriend and the more she fuels that, the more she’s going to beleive it and the more drama you’ll be in for down the road.
Like, you WILL bang her, absolutey, but if you keep letting her dictate the frame (boyfriend/girlfriend), you will be banging her on her terms, not yours, and that will blow up in your face.
It’s funny because you’re actually doing really well, almost too well, and because of that you’re being forced to think about more advanced long-term concepts that most guys would take a few months or a year before they had to worry about it lol So like, none of this is saying you suck or anything, on my end I’m just kind of like “shit, he’s making progress retardedly fast, he just picked up a baseball bat last week and he’s swinging homeruns already when he doesn’t even know what order to run the bases, time to dump a bunch of info on him” lol
Like you’re still trying to get the lay and not seem too low-value to her, but what’s actually happening is that you already HAVE the lay on lockdown and your issue is that you’re too high-value to her lol
See this works:
“Wow…today kicked my pretty little butt. Huge corporate visit with the president of the company Cranky old man”
“I will be the judge of whether you have a pretty little butt.”
That’s solid. It’s not TOO sexual, but it’s also cutting her thread and not engaging her problems or asking her shit about her life that puts you in the boyfriend zone.
Thing is, you CAN learn stuff about her and her life. I know a ton about my fuckbuddies. But you learn that stuff 1) AFTER you’ve banged, and 2) in sporadic deep conversations VS daily shallow conversation. So like, she might be curled up to me after we bang and tell me she needed that because work is stressful and I’ll ask some questions about her work etc and let her vent a bit to me. But if the next day she says “ugh the boss is being a jerk again!!” I’ll either not respond at all or I’ll respond sexually with “sounds like you need to come over for round 2 already”. What I WON’T do is engage her and be her sounding board boyfriend saying “aw man what a jerk! maybe your coworker suzie can help you out!” and like, engage her problems. She can get a boyfriend, orbiters, girlfriends, friends/family, etc. for that, not me.
“What do you think? Or should I not respond at all. Not going to see her until Wednesday. This micro calibration is confusing to me at times.”
I wouldn’t respond at all, only because you’ve already gone a bit of a ways into the boyfriend frame so not responding will help balance that out. If you hadn’t been already sending “sweeties” and asking how her day was I would say send the pretty little butt thing.
And like I say, NOT txting won’t make her lose interest, if anything it’ll keep her hamster thinking about you and wondering if she’s making an ass of herself in her txts and will make her want to meet up face to face in person to show you she’s not crazy/retarded/pessimistic/or whatever she thinks you might think lol
“Also on my 20YOBrazillian. What do you think I should do to reengage? Should I just wait some more?”
Keep waiting. She’ll come when she’s ready. She’s just a child in terms of her mentality toward dating sex relationships etc. She probably feels retarded from doing that phone call thing and is just like “ahhhh I don’t know what to do!!!”
Like, there’s nothing you can really do/say that’s going to make her meet up. She worked herself up into a crazy frenzy and has to work herself out of it. She might not, she might vanish, but that’s okay, you have other girls. 🙂
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@ yareally
1. Just finished employing my first 7 day soft next on an hb8 super drama prone girl and I’m amazed that it worked to the letter exactly how you / blackdragon said it would. I didn’t even read the texts she sent me during that time until later, but there were dozens of them and they ranged from her calling me a piece of shit she can’t believe she ever fucked to being extremely apologetic and begging to be back in my life. I finally text after 7 days something totally unrelated and she’s a purring kitten. Not sure I even want to let her back into my life but the option is there and I have the upper hand now.
2. I’m gravitating toward only texting girls to set up meets from now on. So if girls text me during the week asking how are you or talking about their day or whatever I don’t bother texting back. Saves me a headache of managing so many conversations and they’re even more eager to come out when i do text an invite.
3. Experimented with inviting two girls out with me to a high end club (like I mentioned I would in a previous thread a few days ago) and it resulted in an absurdly easy threesome at the end of the night. Both girls hb 7.5, 21 year olds, rather tame / not party girls, had never met each other before, and the kind of girls who talk about how they have to really like someone to have sex, how they’ve only fucked 1-2 guys before etc. The competition created by both of them being there drove them wild and at the end of the night there was zero ASD / LMR to take them home and bang. And we did it again in the morning.
These life hacks are awesome, and I feel like we’re only scratching the surface of what’s possible.
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@Kant
Curious as to how you got the ill setup with the NYC nightlife scene. Something I’m about to embark on and would love to hear your story.
I get the part about having value, cute girls, dressing with an edge, being right with promoters, etc
But how does one start?
Also, if you can share without giving too much detail, how did you push for the threesome from the club?
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“Experimented with inviting two girls out with me to a high end club (like I mentioned I would in a previous thread a few days ago) and it resulted in an absurdly easy threesome at the end of the night.”
you’re batting 1.000 in the most difficult pua activity. let it ride in vegas and buy some megamillions tickets on your way home. I’m sure we’ll see you on the news accepting your giant check surrounded by scantily clad HBs.
“Both girls hb 7.5, 21 year olds, rather tame / not party girls, had never met each other before, and the kind of girls who talk about how they have to really like someone to have sex, how they’ve only fucked 1-2 guys before etc.”
they must have been grown from clone in a cave and released two hours before you met them because those are the most incredible stats I’ve ever heard for girls that were down to eat out someone they just met. of course they swapped your load in a passionate kiss before passing out from orgasm exhaustion.
“The competition created by both of them being there drove them wild and at the end of the night there was zero ASD / LMR to take them home and bang. And we did it again in the morning.”
Textbook. I totally believe you.
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@kant
“Just finished employing my first 7 day soft next on an hb8 super drama prone girl”
Props. I know it’s difficult at first. I can Soft Next easily right now, but when I started out it was like torture. I had to use apps to lock their numbers off my phone, etc. There were times where I literally deleted their number (so there was no way for me to txt them until they txted me again), etc. Even now, if I’m really into a girl, it can be a bit of an “ahh shit I want to shoot her a txt about this funny thing that happened to me that relates to one of our in-jokes, but I can’t” but I reframe it like “it’s too bad she misbehaved like that and isn’t allowed to see this awesome txt I wanted to send, oh well” to remind myself that it’s not ME being a “bad guy”, I’m simply sticking by my rules of “what behavior I expect/tolerate from the people I allow into my life” and she’s chosen to violate that.
Just like a parent might feel bad that he had to turn the car around and cancel Disneyland because the kids misbehaved, he has to remind himself that he’s not the bad guy, it’s the kids who chose to violate the rules of the road trip and it’s too bad they chose not to get to experience Disneyland lol
“I’m amazed that it worked to the letter exactly how you / blackdragon said it would.”
🙂 Everyone usually is. One of the things that drew me into pickup was that I tried some community shit and not only did it work but it worked EXACTLY how the PUAs told me it would work. Repeatedly. And I was like “holy shit, how is it this consistent??! I thought human thoughts/emotions/actions were all completely random choices but there seems to be some kind of underlying logic here, if they can predict shit this accurately.”
“I didn’t even read the texts she sent me during that time until later, but there were dozens of them and they ranged from her calling me a piece of shit she can’t believe she ever fucked to being extremely apologetic and begging to be back in my life.”
lol this is the rolodex concept I was descibing to walawala when he was going thru his Soft Next with his clusterB girl:
http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=rolodex
It’s fascinating to see, in a way, and I found it actually helped me to not take girls emotions seriously. They’ll throw an angry tantrum one second and then be cuddly and apologetic the next, and it’s completely based on their feelings in that exact moment and not based in logic at all…so when she gives me shit, it’s not that I’ve done anything wrong, it’s that for whatever reason she’s experiencing bad emotions and linked that to me, and the second I or something in our environment makes her feel good emotions, she’ll be over it. So I end up not reacting to her drama, because I understand how temporary it is and how little it actually has to do with ME.
It’s like watching a dog spinning in circles chasing its tail until it wears itself out lol I look at a girl spitting drama at me the same way I would look at that dog and think “lol, I hope you’re having fun with this”
“Not sure I even want to let her back into my life but the option is there and I have the upper hand now.”
lol like I’ve said, that all comes down to each individual man and how much drama he wants to allow in his life, and what TYPE of drama he wants to allow.
Like back when I had a Primary, girls natural instinct was to talk shit about her when they found out about her, because I’m fucking them so they’d think “he’s not THAT into her so I can make fun of her”, but I would put the kaibosh on that instantly and scold them and let them know they don’t get to do that. That crosses one of my lines. Once I lay that law down, suddenly they’re recommending restaraunts to take my Primary to or bottles of wine we should try etc. But other guys might be okay with them talking smack.
Meanwhile if a girl wants to TRY to goad me into little silly fights, I’m okay with that, because I just lol and think it’s cute that she thinks she can get me to react. It doesn’t bother me at all. But other guys might hate the little goading and poking the bear and want to snuff that out a lot sooner than I would.
That’s why like, reco’s clusterB 26yo psycho from last week, she is absolutely bat-shit crazy. But I could handle her and I would probably bang her out a few more times because I’m single and I’ve tamed girls like her before. But for reco, esp being married and everything, and new to that kind of girl and likely to get chewed up and spit out, it’s like ok time to snuff that whole relationship out, it’s too much drama/chaos for him.
One of my Natural buddies LOVES drama and likes girls who bring him super unbelievably chaotic (constant fights and cry-fests and shit) relationships. That’s way too much for me so I have a lower tolerance than him.
Every guy is different and needs to learn about himself and really know himself to establish his boundaries.
99% of guys out there don’t know themselves at all, they’ve never tested themselves or set up and enforced boundaries…that’s why they end up in shitty incel marriages to fat clusterB crazy wives who haven’t fucked them in 5 years. Because they didn’t know themselves as men enough to go “the things you’re doing are unacceptable, change or I will leave” when they had the option.
“I’m gravitating toward only texting girls to set up meets from now on.”
This is how I tend to run things. I’m a txter and I can txt all day long while I work, so if the girl has a good personality where we have a similar sense of humor and I enjoy our chat, I’ll blab all day with her. But most of the girls I’ll txt with once every week or two and it’s mostly just to flirt a bit and then set up a meet.
“So if girls text me during the week asking how are you or talking about their day or whatever I don’t bother texting back.”
Ya this is exactly what I meant. You don’t have to reply to every txt. It’s an important lesson to learn.
“Saves me a headache of managing so many conversations and they’re even more eager to come out when i do text an invite.”
lol exactly. I have a buddy who’s recently single and been thrown into the game and he’s like “how do you manage all these girls?? it’s like I’m txting 24/7 it’s like a full-time job I can’t handle all this” (he has like 4-7 girls he’s flirting with last I talked to him (I think he’s only banged 3 of them so far tho), and I told him that I just ignore a lot of their txts that aren’t leading things toward my goals…but he’s still new to the game and loving the validation/attention so he instinctively keeps responding to every txt. He’ll figure it out down the road tho.
“Experimented with inviting two girls out with me to a high end club (like I mentioned I would in a previous thread a few days ago) and it resulted in an absurdly easy threesome at the end of the night.”
lol congrats. Not a huge surprise…by default you’re super high-value to them since they’re into you AND you’re bringing other decently hot girls who want to fuck you along. They’re not going to want to run off and find some random guy when they came there with a guy who brings 2 girls with him. Long as you don’t ignore one too much, and let them fight it out a bit, act like it’s totally normal and natural and not a weird situation, and then most importantly actually LEAD it toward a 3-some, boom.
Tyler talks about this idea (of girls being cool with banging eachother and 3-somes etc. with a high-value guy who treats it natural and fun) in his Li’l Wayne analogy:
Adam Lyons ran a lot of entourage game back in the day, where he’d roll out with like 10-30 girls at once. It would probably be difficult NOT to end up having a 3-some or more if you were the leader of 30 girls going to the bar lol (he worked as a club promoter as well as studying game).
My Natural buddy used to run into a lot of girls he’d banged at the bars we’d go to, so on any given night there’d be 2-5 girls there who hated him but also kind of still wanted to fuck him, and I know he pulled a few 3somes from that…oddly enough it was usually BFF girlfriends who were instinctively competing over him lol But he knew to lead it toward the 3some and actually handle the logistics and shit to make it actually happen.
The prob for a lot of guys is that they don’t think this is possible or they think only super slutty mc slut slut whores would ever do it, so they don’t just kiss a girl and then tell her and her girlfriend to kiss and see what happens. It’s really not that big a deal to girls, if you’re cool and high-value to them.
Personally, I keep my girls separated from eachother (to avoid drama) so I haven’t really experimented with this yet, but I’m considering giving it a try with girls I don’t want to bang anymore. Like instead of letting two girls’ numbers go cold, just invite them both over and see what happens. If they get mad and storm out, who cares, I didn’t want to bang them anymore anyway lol
“These life hacks are awesome, and I feel like we’re only scratching the surface of what’s possible.”
If someone had told me back in my early 20s that I’d be capable of doing some of the stuff I’ve done and what I can do now, I would never have beleived them. And I don’t feel like I’ve done more than scratch the surface myself.
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@immoralgables
Sure, happy to help, though I have to give props to Distant Light’s ebook, blog, and old threads on RSD, I’ve learned tons from that guy.
Basically if you’re starting from zero (just moved to NYC) start by meeting girls from daygame, or even night game if you don’t mind rolling solo — I’d recommend Lower East Side or East Village at first because there’s tons of young cute girls around and bars are easy to get into.
Just screen them for five minutes and invite them to pregame / party with you on Thurs / Fri / Sat, have them text your their name so you can send the invite. Have the frame be that you’re screening them to see if they’re cool enough to invite into your scene — it’s a chance for them to meet you rather than you hitting on them.
So say you invite all the girls you meet to pregame with you at a lounge in LES (tell them you might be heading to meatpacking afterward so they dress the part). Once you have a group of 2-4 cute girls + you then you can move the group to an exclusive club, my main spots right now are Le Bain and Avenue. The earlier it is the easier to get in. So roll up to the door between 11:30 – Midnight. Just tell the bouncer it’s you plus x number of girls and you’ll likely get in no problem. If you don’t get in just go to another spot don’t argue with the bouncer.
A lot of guys dress up but I dress hipster with a button up shirt so the bouncer doesn’t think I can afford bottle service. I think DL calls it “hipster smart” in his blog.
I haven’t bothered with promoters yet but a medium term goal is to be known as a guy who rolls with only girls (I don’t bring guy friends, I just tell them where I am and they’re responsible for finding their own girls and getting in), then meet promoters for the high end clubs and text them when I’m going out. That way I can meet the girls they’re with and the promoters will love me because I’m basically helping them get paid. Everyone wins.
Let me know if you want me to go into any more detail
As for the threesome, I basically waited until we were all about 4 drinks in. We were on the dance floor and I’m just dancing normally, not hitting on either of them. One of them grabs me and kisses me, so I make out for five seconds, then grab the other one and make out with her. Then just push them both up against each other and they get the hint and start making out. Then I just move in for the three way make out. Notice no verbals involved in any of this (I’m a strong believer in less is more when it comes to verbals).
Then I moved them to the couch and we hung out for a bit, made out a bit more. I then said “ok afterparty lets go” and they followed me out of the club. I did the three way makeout trick again on the elevator and this guy was there with the girl he was pulling giving me this look of how the fuck did you swing this bro. I just shrugged and smiled.
Told them lets get a cab, we get in and I give my address and keep joking around / talking like nothing weird is going on. My frame was this isn’t weird so it didn’t feel weird. Once we got to my place I got a beer for us to share, still joking around, made them start making out and started taking their clothes off. One of them said “this is really happening isnt it” and I just said “yeah” and that was that.
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@kant
Got a bigger reply in moderation, but props. And thanks for the details on how you made it happen. It’s basically what I wrote in my reply in mod lol (act like it’s normal, lead it, etc.) Tyler has been dropping in clips of himself getting 3-way makeouts and hopping in cabs with duos of girls for a while now. It’s really not that big of a deal to girls.
One suggestion tho is that you don’t give so many details on club names and locations and shit, for your and yours girls’ privacy. Lot of retarded creepers on the Internet and it wouldn’t be difficult to keep an eye out for a guy in the specific bars you name as your regular haunts who’s rolling with multiple girls regularly etc. Same with you immoral. Take it to private E-Mail or something if you guys want to get into massive specifics on NYC.
It’s not even so much that you might get called out, but your girls who just had a wonderful magical little experience would probably be less than thrilled knowing you wrote all about it on the Internet for a bunch of creepers lol We’ve seen a few girls stumble across their own Field Reports or creepy guys stalk people in-field and it generally isn’t pretty.
“I haven’t bothered with promoters yet but a medium term goal is to be known as a guy who rolls with only girls (I don’t bring guy friends, I just tell them where I am and they’re responsible for finding their own girls and getting in), ”
Adam Lyons’ had a rule “if you want to come sarge with me, that’s cool, you’re welcome to. But you have to bring 10 girls with you. Because that’s what I’m bringing and you should be able to do the same.” He didn’t mean you had to be fucking them or anything, but you should be socially savvy enough to be able to round up a handful of cute fun girls to come party with you. That’s called being a normal cool social guy. Otherwise you better be one fun positive upbeat motherfucker if you show up solo lol
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@Kant
I’m running out the door rn but want to say thanks a lot. At first glance everything you say makes a lot of sense and gives me guidance.
Thanks again and I’ll prob holler at you on these boards over the next couple months for related advice but I’ve got a lot of necessary so s/b good.
Also, been following your comments for a few months and I don’t doubt what you post. Congrats on the threesome and your development. Haters like @betamax just can’t understand….
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> “they ranged from her calling me a piece of shit she can’t believe she ever fucked”
You need a crash course in Borderline Personality Disorder:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/the-evisceration-of-penelope-trunk/
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/01/penelope_trunk_abuser.html#more
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@yareally hey man I just saw your post. I was still back on the old thread. lol I went ahead and responded to the text from yesterday. I did the response on the pretty little butt last night and stayed out of her frame. It seemed to work well. I never did engage her with the hows your day stuff anymore. I realize now that it was boyfriendish and the wrong way to go. Check out my text exchange below and the times on it. I stretched the times out. Notice she sent me a good morning very late in the morning. I am assuming that she was waiting for me to send the good morning? What do you think of the exchange?:
Her: Morning darling 10:44 AM
Me: Hey…in (another city) today 1:52 PM
Her: Really? 1:59 PM
Me: Sure. ..work work 2:00 PM
Her: Wish I was there 2:01 PM (qualifying trying to enter my frame)
Me: Well if you play your cards right I may be convinced to take you sometime 2:03 PM (aloof)
Her: I think you need a hottie for an assistant 2:08 PM (qualifying)
Me: have anyone in mind? 2:29 PM (aloof)
Her: Yeah, she’s quite a firecracker. 2:30 PM (qualifying even a little sexual for a prude)
Me: i guess we will have to see 2:37 PM (aloof)
Her: Guess so. 😉 (hamster roll)
Give it to me straight. I will cut out the sweet names and the over response. Seeing her tomorrow night. I have my plan for date and ASD and LMR. I am ready. Having a bit of fun now.
Also on the 20YO brazillian I will lay off for the rest of the week and then revisit. But I do want to try to game her. Maybe we can look at her as an advanced re engagement project. I agree she will be hard to get on the line.
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@reco
“Give it to me straight.”
Rock solid. This exchange was good. Note the difference between here and before…here you’re not giving off a boyfriend vibe at all, so instead of wanting to be your girlfriend she wants to be your hottie assistant sexual firecracker. Because that’s the only role you’ll LET her be.
“Her: Yeah, she’s quite a firecracker. 2:30 PM (qualifying even a little sexual for a prude)”
This is great. This is a huge ioi for a prudish chick. This is basically her throwing herself at you lol You should have no problems banging her…but remember, if you allow her to view you as a possible boyfriend/provider, she will try NOT to put out because she’ll want you to “respect” her and fall in love with her first. But if she accepts that your only role in her life is sex, she’ll put out fast.
“Me: i guess we will have to see 2:37 PM (aloof)
Her: Guess so. 😉 (hamster roll)”
I just wanted to note here that a lot of guys would get sucked into her sexual comment and play along with it and get into a big sexual roleplay and be super excited that they’re getting to sext with a girl and maybe they even get her horny and she tells them she’s so wet at work bla bla
And that’s all awesome, after you’ve had sex once already. But before? Esp with a prude girl? Boom, ASD thru the roof and she’d flake.
Here you’re kind of teaching her to get your attention by being flirty and sexual but like she still has work to do. So 1) that’s way better than teaching her that complaining about her day gets your attention (I once sent a chick “what happened to you? when we met you were cool and fun and flirty and would send me sexy things all the time. now all you do is bitch about work. it’s depressing.” and within a week she was back to sending me sexy pics and flirty txts, but I shouldn’t have allowed things to get that bad in the first place so that was my bad and that was damage control on my end), and 2) she’ll bring her A-game out on your date because she feels like she has to win you over a bit still, so you can expect her to show up looking hot as fuck. 🙂
“Maybe we can look at her as an advanced re engagement project.”
The thing with the 20yo is that there’s nothing you can really do that’s going to help. For whatever reason (her fault, your fault, doesn’t matter), she’s backed into a corner psychologically and all you can do is wait for her to come out of it. Picture a terrified cat or something scrunched up in a corner…there’s nothing you can say or do to that cat to get it to chill out and come back out and trust you and purr for you…you have to wait until it decides “ok I’m ready to give this person another chance” and you have to accept that that may not happen and you may have to write it off as a lost cause.
You could probably get her ATTENTION…but attention doesn’t equal getting the actual lay which is the main goal.
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@Yareally Hi, man.I’m a lurker and your archive has been pure gold, thank you so much. 🙂
I can’t start gaming till I get outta this little city here in Brazil (so no need to bother answering me before the other guys).But I’m very interested in your inghts into low-energy game.
I’m confused by this James Marshall guy, look at his game, this video for example:
He goes direct but after letting her know his intent its just boring babble, he goes straight to comfort, asking questions about her values and forcing her to talk a lot more than him through his interrogation techniques lol.
Where is the attraction?It looks like an assexual interaction.Ins’t he supposed to say things funny/witty?Is this because of his good looks so the girls are already interested in him and an ugly guy would not get the girl to chase him?
Thank ya.
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@Gothninja
What are you talking about? throughout the beginning of the interaction he’s teasing and challenging her, that’s classic attraction stuff.
Anyway the MM stuff is pretty outdated these days. You can create a lot more attraction just looking in her eyes, talking slowly and getting close than you can being C&F, DHVs or whatever
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@GothNinja
“Where is the attraction?It looks like an assexual interaction.Ins’t he supposed to say things funny/witty?Is this because of his good looks so the girls are already interested in him and an ugly guy would not get the girl to chase him?”
Eye-contact. He’s projecting his sexual intent thru locking his eye-contact and speaking slowly etc. Here’s what he’s doing in-depth:
You have to experiment with it to see how powerful it is. You don’t need to be funny/witty at all lol It’s a bit of a mind-fuck.
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Yeah sorry, i’m being dumb, i should have talked about emotional (buying temperature?) spikes instead of stages of the Mistery Method.People always talk about of the emotional rollercoaster and how this is what causes sexual attraction, i’m reasoning from this point, if you don’t cause much attraction and do a lot of comfort things will not end well.
A lot of people in the comments thinks that the interaction looks boring too, you don’t get this impression with other guys. Looks like there is no emotional rollercoaster here. He makes makes no innuendo, don’t go sexual to demonstrate that he can “cross the line”, they are sitting side by side, not in front of the other, so she doesn’t maintain much eye contact, there is no kino, etc.
But the guy gets laid a lot so I’m just asking for the subtleties working here.
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@Yareally
There’s another reply that I made explaining myself, I thinks It’s in the moderation, just ignore it.
Thanks for the reply.Yeah, I’ve watched that video twice, I was not impressed by the infield because i’ve never done this laser eye contact/speaking slowly from the very start before, just in the later stages of the pickup when she’s already warm, before going for the kiss, etc.
I need to do this for myself and feel the tension building up.
It’s sad that I can’t sarge here in this city, everybody knows everybody, lol.It would be awesome to put some field reports here lol.
Someday.
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James Marshall has an understanding of PUA etc BUT is a mercenary, a tool and an epic bullshit artist.
Do some research and you will find that he lied to the Melbourne (Australia) Lair and brough in a newspaper journalist to a meeting in order to gain publicity for his own PUA company.
Has referred to himself as a “pornstar” but only been in one scene of a third rate porn film.
Is or was married … found some chick from Eastern Europe and brought her to Australia and then married her. Probably so that she could get citizenship and save her sorry ass from a zero future back home. She turns up to his seminars etc and helps him promote his company.
He and his cohorts at one stage stole the entire contents of the Melbourne Lair and put it up on their own PUA company site.
I could go on.
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@Yreally I am good to go for tonight. Ready to have some fun. I have my plan for the pull to the hotel room. And for and ASD issues. However I believe as you have said she is really ready to be fucked. I am going to send her a hello text today just to confirm and to tell her what to wear. I am going to send
“hey… pick you up at six…wear heels and a skirt”
I watched the videos above. And it is amazing how these guys get into such a sexual vibe so easily and quickly. I need to practice this. But it does not seem like a lot of work or effort. You just have to be in the right mindset.
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But it does not seem like a lot of work or effort. You just have to be in the right mindset.
Exactly. While learning specific techniques, if you’re completely clueless about women, is quite helpful it’s also necessary not to over analyze every single detail to the n-th degree like an autistic child. Learn the techniques, develop your own confidence through self improvement, adapt your game to your situation, practice approaching a lot to build confidence AND see how utterly clueless women are. When you’re ready and have internalized how utterly simple women really are you then listen to some good “get in the vibe” music and go out and slay some poon-tang without a second thought. Trying to make this into some kind of vector calculus level detail thing will achieve the opposite of the intended desire.
If picking up women were really as difficult as to need an entire Turing Machine level of complexity the human race wouldn’t have made it out of the trees.
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Well It did not go the way I wanted it to. There has been a change of plans with my 33YOPrude. So I sent my text today to confirm. Do you guys confirm on the day of a date when you already have the date and time locked down. Or is that too beta? Anyway here is the text exchange.
Her: :-* 6:53 PM (from last night)
Me: Hey cutie…be there at 6…wear heels and a skirt 😉 1:06 PM (today this was my confirmation)
Her: At hospital with Dad. He had a heart attack last night. I’ll update u 1:07 PM (surprise!)
Me: Sorry to hear that is he going to be ok? 1:08 PM (I had to say something I couldn’t be a total asshole, could I?)
Her: Scheduling to have his valve replaced now. 1:09 PM
Me: Did you still want to get together? 1:13 PM
Her: I’ll let u know in an hr or so. Waiting on dr for more news. I’ve been up since 345 1:14 PM
Me: Ok. 1:15 PM
Me: I am going to make other plans. ..maybe we can do it some other time 2:37 PM (I gave her about an hours was not going to sit around and wait)
Her: That’s fine. He’s having surgery tomorrow morning. 2:38 PM
Her: Just let me know when u want to get together 2:39 PM
So no poontang tonight. Frustrating. So I am on the fence about this. I feel that this is an extenuating circumstance. I want to be cool about her dad having a heart attack but don’t want to be her beta. What do you think? Once again I am not sure the right way to handle all of these unique situations.
I also thought that maybe she is just stringing me along. And I should punish her for this. I have noticed that on the site where I met her she is logged on every morning. Kind of suspicious don’t you think? Or is that normal? I still think the chick likes me and wants to see me. The last text was her offering to get together any time. She has never done that before. It has always been couched in the context of her having a lot of work to do and being busy. So it kind of looks like she is making herself more available.
Do you think she could be lying about her dad having surgery? Women do lie a lot. Or am I overthinking this?
Good news I am set with my 40YOnurse for tomorrow. We have been exchanging some dirty texts back and forth. lol
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No go tonight with the 33YO prude. Stuck in moderation right now.
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@reco
Probably legit. 26YO would make that up, this one seems more sane.
I would shoot a txt in a couple days saying “hey how’s your dad” and do a quick little convo (end it before you spend too long comforting her) but not actually push for a meetup till next week. Give her time to settle back to normal. I would just be sparse with txting all weekend. Not angry or butthurt or anything, just not super holding her hand thru all her trauma (she’s not your wife, she has friends and family to comfort her). I’m sure he’ll be fine.
I would have cancelled right away with an “oh shit, hope he’s okay. Don’t worry about tonight, we’ll get together another week.” Like if I know she’s probably going to cancel I’ll cancel first so it’s like I’m the one in control VS “do you still want to hang out?” where she has the power and it looks like I’m like “ummm well I was kind of looking forward to this and don’t have other options sooooo…?”
Some guys would say “she’s emotional and needs a bang, push for it” but that’s not my style personally…I’d rather she gets her life back to normal and come over when she’s feeling fun and feisty even if that means waiting an extra week or two to reschedule. She probably won’t need long, her dad didn’t die or anything.
Just go back to letting her txt you first and ignoring the boyfriendy stuff. She’ll hint to meet up again when she’s over her situ. Her pussy will still work next week or the week after lol
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@Yareally once again you are right on the money brother. Here is the text exchange on what just happened:
her: I’m just getting home from hospital… 4:35 PM
Her: I can be ready by 615 4:52 PM (nice what a trooper)
Her: I’ll just see u next wk 5:05 PM (this text and mine below happened at the same time)
Me: I already made plans with a friend down in _____… 5:06 PM
Her: No problem sweetie 5:06 PM
Me: …get some sleep and take care of your dad. 5:06 PM (you are right it will be better when she is up for fun)
Her: Plan to 5:07 PM
So sounds like she is still very interested. And no bullshit. And that does remind me. 5 days and holding and no crazy alert. lol
Also what is your policy on confirming a date on the day of? Necessary or not?
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@reco
She’s into you. The fact that she was going to even try to make it (or pretend she was going to) means she didn’t want to disappoint you (which is likely a result of your txt game the last week after she flaked last time). But of course she’s going to be too bummed tonight lol She’s still a human being who just went through a shitty day.
The “get some sleep and take care of your dad” stuff was solid. You know she’s gonna do it anyway, so this puts you in an alpha “giving her orders” role. If I know a girl is going to end our txts to go to sleep or she says she’s about to go to sleep, I’ll txt a couple more txts to keep the convo going then TELL her “ok get some sleep now. sweet dreams sexy” as if it were my idea lol It’s a little subtle thing.
“Also what is your policy on confirming a date on the day of? Necessary or not?”
http://yareallyarchive.com/2014/4/#comment-heartiste-551397
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@reco
nicely played…very nice…[golf clap]…lol…
so the question is…how is it feeling?…more natural?…still kind of uncertain?…you’re getting better for sure…
great job!
also…on the psycho…no news is good news, right?…how long did you go last time before she contacted you? i want to get my bets in…lol…
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@HABD thanks for the props. It feels really good. I do feel more confidence but I am still unsure of the actions to take. I still question myself too much I think. But I believe that will come with more experience and time. 33YOPrude texted me last night again. Just to give me an update on her dad. And she just texted me a Hey Babe a couple of minutes ago. I have not responded. I will keep my texts to a minimum. I have to tell you my initial impulse is to respond and then if not immediately then respond in a little while. I still have to make myself hold back. lol So yes still kind of uncertain.
On my 40YONurse we are scheduled for the hotel today after work. Not even going to take her to a restaurant. Maybe get a bottle of wine in the room. Interesting thing. We have been doing a little sexting and I told her to send me a naughty pic last night and she never responded. I feel this is a shit test. And I also feel that I need to punish her but not sure how. I thought that maybe give her a good spanking when she comes up to the room. Since we have already had some pretty rough sex. Or should I ignore it? What do you think?
And finally on the psycho. No word six days. It was 2.5 weeks last time. And I really do not miss her at all this time. My bet is she will never call again. But what do I know about these crazy bitches?
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@reco
“@HABD thanks for the props.”
you’ve earned them! it’s fun to watch hard work pay off…
“It feels really good. I do feel more confidence but I am still unsure of the actions to take. I still question myself too much I think.”
see how much you’ve learned already…lol…
“But I believe that will come with more experience and time.” yep…
“33YOPrude texted me last night again. Just to give me an update on her dad. And she just texted me a Hey Babe a couple of minutes ago. I have not responded. I will keep my texts to a minimum.”
good plan…
“I have to tell you my initial impulse is to respond and then if not immediately then respond in a little while. I still have to make myself hold back. lol So yes still kind of uncertain.”
just keep working to pattern that groove…lol…
“On my 40YONurse we are scheduled for the hotel today after work. Not even going to take her to a restaurant. Maybe get a bottle of wine in the room. Interesting thing. We have been doing a little sexting and I told her to send me a naughty pic last night and she never responded. I feel this is a shit test.”
it might be…see your instincts are getting better…lol…you don’t have to respond to every test…which is good, because you are going to miss some…lol…you can just ignore small ones, since super alpha wouldn’t even bother with a test so small… (especially ones that have plausible deniability on your part i.e.. “i just assumed you didn’t see the text, since you didn’t respond…”) those are the ones you’ll likely miss anyway…lol… if the test is right in your face = respond RIGHT NOW…lol…
“And I also feel that I need to punish her but not sure how.”
or you just ignore it like it didn’t happen, and don’t refer to it (just like with flaking), so she doesn’t get rewarded for the behavior…in behavioral training, rewarding behavior you want is a better option/strategy than punishing behavior you don’t want…
“I thought that maybe give her a good spanking when she comes up to the room. Since we have already had some pretty rough sex. Or should I ignore it? What do you think?”
see above…if she brings it up, you can have her give you a “live’ naughty pic…lol…or spank her then since it’s obvious shit test at that point…lol…and since she brought it up, she’ll expect soooome type of ‘punishment’…lol…
“And finally on the psycho. No word six days. It was 2.5 weeks last time. And I really do not miss her at all this time. My bet is she will never call again. But what do I know about these crazy bitches?”
hopefully all you need to…lol…and if you screen properly, like YaReally says, you won’t have to learn more…lol…
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@YaReally
left some comments for you back here…can i get a body language ‘double check’ on the james marshall is vague vid…?
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/why-night-game-is-dying/#comment-561568
also, i just realized that the whole low energy vibe (soft voice, slow movement, relaxed state, direct staring, non-reactive, etc…) is ‘super alpha silverback’ game in primate group interaction dynamics…no wonder it works on fertile females…lol…
one more request…i feel pretty secure in my ‘game’… now i want to start on ‘cool social vibe’ improvements…got any tips?…
also, just one example of the cool social vibe benefits…when i was back in college (waaaay back in the day…lol…) there was a guy on our dorm floor. i used to help him with some tutoring once in a while, so got to know him.
this guy was like a big friendly puppy…a true natural social butterfly. (i think this is one reason i always thought you were just stuck with the way you were born, since i was so shy…). when this guy would walk into a room, the vibe went up 5 happiness points…lol…even when nobody in the room knew him yet. he just assumed that he would be welcome anywhere he went…and he was…
it was fun to watch and be a part of that experience…lol…he had the attention span of the big friendly puppy, too…lol…this guy was everybody’s best buddy within 2 minutes of meeting him. it was so unique that i still remember this guy even today…lol…he had girls basically falling all over themselves just to hang around him…and guess what his gf looked like?…she was the only 11 i have ever seen in real life or movies, photos, etc…she was like some greek goddess come to life…19, super beautiful, understated dress but hot, very demure and feminine…it was surreal…lol…and she only had eyes for this big friendly puppy…lol…
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I have a friend like this. I would not call him alpha. But he is super friendly and has a magnetic personality. He is really tall big booming voice, so he stands out even more. He is not good looking. But people especially women love him.
Everywhere he goes he is talking that persons language. We went on a wilderness canoe trip him and I with our girlfriends one time. I swear he got to be best friends with everyone we ran into along the way. In the wilderness! It was amazing. I was calling him the mayor by the end of the trip. Lol
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don’t ever push the stroller
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There are alpha ways to push around a baby:
1. NEVER call it a stroller. Find your own comfortable name: I prefer “Roller” or “Go-buggy”.
2. Do it solo. Little kids are the ABSOLUTE BEST wingmen. Just by seeing you with the baby without a mom present creates a mental image in a woman’s mind of herself in your family sphere, and causes her to imagine what having your baby would look like. Once you have that image in her mind, you’re 90% of the way into her pants.
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Sometimes I walk around the park with my zipper open and my dick hanging out–it creates a mental image in a girls mind of her sucking it.
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You show her how to pull the stroller backward through the snow/gravel and through doors at the mall. Establish yourself as the problem solver!
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Sometimes, the reality is that a woman simply earns more than the man. That can’t always be avoided. But if your wife makes the money and you take care of the kids, THEN DO IT LIKE A BOSS. Do it like it’s your life and death critical mission. Do it well. Especially the discipline part. If the kids are running roughshod over you, you’re NOT doing it like a boss. Do it with the attitude that you run the mission, and the wife just supplies the money. In other words, do it like an alpha.
Do it that way, and the sex should be just fine.
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You also have to control her. Don’t let her run roughshod over you.
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Are you retired now, Reggie? It seems that transition can be tough on marriages, and there’s probably a need for “retirement game.”
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Well, I do all the cooking in my home, about 29 days a month. The thing is, I really like to cook, and I am good at it. I take my nutrition seriously, and that’s a big reason I prepare my own meals. I also OWN the kitchen. My wife has to ask my permission to cook, and when she is in the kitchen, I start ordering her around, making sure she doesn’t fuck with my system or put something in the wrong place. If she is making one of my recipes, I’ll watch to make sure she’s doing it right. I may be a kitchen bitch, but that kitchen is MINE.
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Are you a doodie?
http://www.grubstreet.com/2014/05/food-dude-doodies-and-the-women-who-love-them.html
Bitches never know how to chop onions
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Nah, he sounds like he lifts heavy for them gainz. That’s why he’s almost always preparing his own meals.
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The irony is that the article is written by a woman. Apparently the commenter couldn’t tell either.
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@Jiron – that’s what makes the article particularly funny
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My wife is not allowed to use my knife.
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Lol. Thats me. My gf literally asks my permission to make stuff, and I usually tell her no.
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REally well written real talk here:
http://www.amren.com/features/2014/05/confessions-of-a-public-defender/
lol
Most blacks are unable to speak English well. They cannot conjugate verbs. They have a poor grasp of verb tenses. They have a limited vocabulary. They cannot speak without swearing. They often become hostile on the stand. Many, when they testify, show a complete lack of empathy and are unable to conceal a morality based on the satisfaction of immediate, base needs.
When I am appointed to represent a client I introduce myself and explain that I am his lawyer. I explain the court process and my role in it, and I ask the client some basic questions about himself. At this stage, I can tell with great accuracy how people will react. Hispanics are extremely polite and deferential. An Hispanic will never call me by my first name and will answer my questions directly and with appropriate respect for my position. Whites are similarly respectful.
A black man will never call me Mr. Smith; I am always “Mike.” It is not unusual for a 19-year-old black to refer to me as “dog.” A black may mumble complaints about everything I say, and roll his eyes when I politely interrupt so I can continue with my explanation. Also, everything I say to blacks must be at about the third-grade level. If I slip and use adult language, they get angry because they think I am flaunting my superiority.
At the early stages of a case, I explain the process to my clients. I often do not yet have the information in the police reports. Blacks are unable to understand that I do not yet have answers to all of their questions, but that I will by a certain date. They live in the here and the now and are unable to wait for anything.
Although blacks are only a small percentage of our community, the courthouse is filled with them: the halls and gallery benches are overflowing with black defendants, families, and crime victims. Most whites with business in court arrive quietly, dress appropriately, and keep their heads down. They get in and get out–if they can–as fast as they can. For blacks, the courthouse is like a carnival. They all seem to know each other: hundreds and hundreds each day, gossiping, laughing loudly, waving, and crowding the halls.
Unlike people of other races, blacks never see their lawyer as someone who is there to help them. I am a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case.
Black men often try to trip me up and challenge my knowledge of the law or the facts of the case. I appreciate sincere questions about the elements of the offense or the sentencing guidelines, but blacks ask questions to test me. Unfortunately, they are almost always wrong in their reading, or understanding, of the law, and this can cause friction. I may repeatedly explain the law, and provide copies of the statute showing, for example, why my client must serve six years if convicted, but he continues to believe that a hand-written note from his “cellie” is controlling law.
Prosecutors are delighted when a black defendant takes the stand. It is like shooting fish in a barrel. However, the defense usually gets to cross-examine the black victim, who is likely to make just as bad an impression on the stand as the defendant. This is an invaluable gift to the defense, because jurors may not convict a defendant—even if they think he is guilty—if they dislike the victim even more than they dislike the defendant.
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This is all true.
The remarkable thing is that so few of the vermin shoot each other just outside the courthouse.
I guess they do that popping a cap in your arse at the funerals instead.
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Uncomfortable truths are not racist. They’re simply facts some people don’t want to know.
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That is all just so sad. It transcends disgusting; it’s just sad.
And what’s the saddest about it is that this was not the black community of the 1950s. I’m willing to accept that there is an element of genetics to this, but it’s not about race primarily; it’s about that race’s culture. The liberals have created this class of people with their poisonous, short-sighted philosophies.
Imagine what the libs are going to do to the rest of us, if they’ve gotten away with this.
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Yes.
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No its genetic.Culture can work–assiduously–to try and repress the black mans nature,but its a tough job and is not even remotely possible under our present rules.
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It’s mainly genetic.
It can only be suppressed with Apartheid.
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The Frankfurt School doesn’t want well-behaved chimpanzees.
The Frankfurt School wants them to be hyperaggressive so that The Frankfurt School can say to fence-sitting [i.e. “swing”] voters: Either vote for our candidate, or your city will burn.
With huge bonus points for The Frankfurt School when shkotzim females [“shiksas”] mudshark themselves with chimpanzees and push out diarrhea-colored abominations nine months later, because that just decreases the total number of shkotzim that The Frankfurt School will have to deal with in the next generation.
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The problem is that cultures are shaped by genes. Before the 1960s, black culture was under the control of whites who stopped being paternalistic towards blacks on cultural issues, so they reverted to how blacks are everywhere: in Africa, in Europe or in America. The genepool of the American black probably got worse too due to welfare being incompatible with how blacks think.
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Savages then, savages now. Back in the 50s, even the dullest knew that acting out in a place outside their community would lead to being dragged behind a pickup by the good ol’ boys. My grandfather called then jigaboos for a reason.
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The public defender who wrote that piece concludes that he is a liberal and believes that successful members of society have material responsibilities to ones such as described here. One such act of responsibility would be to stop pretending that individuals with sub-85 IQs and moral values consistent with underdeveloped prefrontal lobes are our equals, rather than dependents and potential predators. Not incentivising their propagation via welfare would be a step in the direction of responsible stewardship.
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That was me
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What I found oddest about it is that he comes to such clear conclusions about how welfare is enabling all of this, viewed as a RIGHT by the women who pop these little monsters out, and yet he refuses to even consider stopping the gravy train.
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Cynthia,
It’s segregation or welfare or concentration camps.
Pick your poison honey bunch.
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> “It’s segregation or welfare or concentration camps.”
Or send them all back to the home which God created for them to live in: Sub-Saharan Africa.
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Sometimes I wonder: is the Dems’ one electoral non-negotiable, abortion, REALLY about a mere “woman’s right to choose”?
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Well, Margaret Sanger did want to wipe out blacks via abortion.
But the abortion discussion is more about controlling women (and their voting habits) than letting them “choose” for themselves. The only “choice” abortion presents is whether or not what’s growing in one’s womb is a human being or not.
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Warren Buffet Has Given $1.2 Billion to Pro-Abortion Groups, Would Fund 2.7 Million Abortions
http://www.lifenews.com/2014/05/13/warren-buffet-has-given-1-2-billion-to-pro-abortion-groups-would-fund-2-7-million-abortions/
Does Ruth Bader Ginsburg Support Eugenics?
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/god-and-country/2009/07/14/does-ruth-bader-ginsburg-support-eugenics
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There is a lot more good stuff in that piece especially when he gets to the defendants’ and their families’ subhuman moral development. Blank emotionlessness at a first-time father/son meeting, inability to understand that random victimised strangers suffer, or — my favorite — the manner in which the female relatives of the accused conceptualize God.
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“Black women have great faith in God, but they have a twisted understanding of His role. They do not pray for strength or courage. They pray for results: the satisfaction of immediate needs. One of my clients was a black woman who prayed in a circle with her accomplices for God’s protection from the police before they would set out to commit a robbery.”
Jesus H Christ, they have even more in common with Jews than we ever realized.
“God” as a tool with which to destroy your enemies.
They’re not even worshipping Thor – they’re worshipping Thor’s Hammer, Mjölnir.
Sheesh.
No wonder Jews and Blacks understand one another on such a profoundly deep, visceral basis.
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No wonder Jews and Blacks understand one another on such a profoundly deep, visceral basis.
I don’t think it’s mutual understanding… I think the one knows a convenient hench when it sees one, and the other is only too happy to be raise havoc.
It all stems back to ancient times, when a large “mixed multitude” helped themselves of the spoils of Egypt before heading out through the Red Sea.
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Right on. The negroes have been, time out of mind, YKW preferred trigger men for unleashing mayhem on whitey.
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Greg Eliot – read the original piece at AmRen.
I only quoted one paragraph from it, for fear of the thing getting lost in the LIFO stack.
But the black women are praying to “God” and axing Him [essentially] to strike down their enemies in PRECISELY the same way that jews pray in their synagogues.
It’s really uncanny.
It’s as though Jews and Blacks are perfect reflections of one another.
Two extremes of utter iniquity at opposite ends of the IQ Bell Curve.
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If you tell a black man that the evidence is very harmful to his case, he will blame you. “You ain’t workin’ fo’ me.” “It like you workin’ with da State.” Every public defender hears this. The more you try to explain the evidence to a black man, the angrier he gets. It is my firm belief many black are unable to discuss the evidence against them rationally because they cannot view things from the perspective of others. They simply cannot understand how the facts in the case will appear to a jury.
Upset
This inability to see things from someone else’s perspective helps explain why there are so many black criminals. They do not understand the pain they are inflicting on others. One of my robbery clients is a good example. He and two co-defendants walked into a small store run by two young women. All three men were wearing masks. They drew handguns and ordered the women into a back room. One man beat a girl with his gun. The second man stood over the second girl while the third man emptied the cash register. All of this was on video.
My client was the one who beat the girl. When he asked me, “What are our chances at trial?” I said, “Not so good.” He immediately got angry, raised his voice, and accused me of working with the prosecution. I asked him how he thought a jury would react to the video. “They don’t care,” he said. I told him the jury would probably feel deeply sympathetic towards these two women and would be angry at him because of how he treated them. I asked him whether he felt bad for the women he had beaten and terrorized. He told me what I suspected—what too many blacks say about the suffering of others: “What do I care? She ain’t me. She ain’t kin. Don’t even know her.”
in other words, average black, 75 IQ, is literally autistic.
no wonder…
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Picture the investment bank HR monkey in the article reading this comment. It can’t be prejudice if it is drawn from experience. This has some very bold truth and that’s why it will never be seen or heard outside of here.
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Interesting board about psychopaths, virtually a whole thread with women expressing how much they hated (loved) their “P”s.
https://www.psychopathfree.com/showthread.php?5650-The-Sociopath-Smile-Smirk/page2&s=4674425da9c5dadaf50cec48cf5d475a
Note all the comments about the smiles and “He has the same expression/look (or lack thereof) in his eyes all the time. I wish I could post a picture of his eyes, but I know I can’t. I cropped a picture I have of him of just his eyes, it is sooooo creepy and reptilian looking. Ugh! I look at it every now and then when I start missing it…it kicks me right back into reality.
Oh and that smirk! Yep, he would do the same thing to me whenever I ranted and raved…you could see the extreme pleasure he was getting at seeing me so worked up…just plain evil! “
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It’s as though they’ve all dated YaReally.
Maybe they actually have?
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I’m not a psychopath, but I do think it’s amusing to see women all worked up. I was having an argument with my ex and I couldn’t hold back my laughter when she was really pissy and she cracked up too when I started to laugh.
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> “I was having an argument with my ex and I couldn’t hold back my laughter when she was really pissy and she cracked up too when I started to laugh.”
Sounds like she has a pretty good sense of humor.
Or may be Game is helping you to help her to lighten up?
Isn’t it amazing how a man can lead his womynz through the bad times if only he Games up and acts like a leader?
So why is she an “ex”?
Does she still have anything to bring to the table, or are her ovaries shrivelled up like raisins?
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everybody says psychopath like its a bad thing lol.
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with all the cream puffs walking around, anyone that doesn’t laugh a lot is now a “psycho”
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Push it as : Woman who have a better sex life feed well their man who do chore requiring a lot of strength.
Female imperative: to have good sex she “only need” to feed is man well. Also let him work repairing stuff. The rest are “secondary finding” of the study.
Reword it so it seem the advantage are all for her and she have next to nothing to do.
When people push to get more information(mostly men) they will find the rest of the information…
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or
“An empowered woman can manage a healthy household by selectively embracing a sex-differentiated value system”
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Market it as a problem-solver for women. Use the female imperative to your own advantage. You just have to hook their attention without actually revealing any details, so no mention of household chores or decision-making authority. If the headline feels incomplete, add filler about happiness.
It could headline as “Study reveals how female breadwinners can have harmony at home.” “Research shows how men can make wives happier through yardwork.” “Take control of your happiness: how hardworking women can rekindle their sex life through healthy meals.”
The executive summary, again, just has to be a little evasive. Frame everything the wife does as taking control or doing something good for her health, and everything the man does as handling a nuisance on her behalf. “The solution for tired breadwinner moms? Surprising study reveals that just a little more effort is more beneficial than rest. Women who come home from work to cook a healthy meal experience greater happiness as they continue to exercise loving control over their family’s diet. Sorting laundry revealed to function similar to Zen-style ‘moving meditation’ and may be more restful than the television, which prevents the brain from properly relaxing. Financial decisions, like television, prevent the brain from relaxing. Husbands remain sensitive to wife’s moods; proper relaxation from the wife leads to a more caring and attentive husband who will be motivated to handle stressful financial decisions. Wife’s mental state extremely important to the marriage, and even determines the husband’s mental state; by engaging in moving meditation and personally overseeing her own healthy diet, she can enable husband to help her achieve peace of mind.”
Put that through a few drafts to iron out any hint of the real reasoning without omitting the actual findings and you’re golden.
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The findings are spot on (and I say this as a female breadwinner with a very alpha male husband) with one exception–man has to show competence on the financial decisions or that is a complete buzz killer that will lead to massive power-and-control arguments. On household chores, if she’s working and in the breadwinner role, no man should be doing indoor “female” chores if there is a viable way to pay someone else to do it unless it is a particular quirk thing he enjoys. Otherwise, his focus should be on lifting heavy things, taming the outdoors, killing game, family protection, building fires, etc. Make me a sandwich, that’s nice, but meh (unless I’m sick or just worked a 16 hour day, and you are coming at it from the frame of, “protect me” mode not “I’m a princess” mode). By contrast, if he catches some fresh fish in the morning, guts it dockside with instructions to serve the filets at 6pm; she will have a happy grin. The spin on the findings to get past the gatekeepers should be very “women’s magazine” along the lines of, Men are still from Mars, Women from Venus, how to happily coexist on Earth, blah blah. Another angle: in this day and age, most women don’t know $hit about how to properly set up and run a household, so just put it in that framework. Top 10 things that are Hunter vs. Gatherer roles. If it involves nature, he does it; nurture, you do it. So you do the day to day cooking (except outdoor grilling: fire = nature), he takes out the garbage at night. He can corral the offspring into bed and patrol the house perimeter to make sure doors are locked while instructing you get ready for him in bed. Once a year discuss long-term financial goals and budgets (real ones, not fantasy versions), decide on the plan to get there, divvy the work up (e.g., investment strategy, he can execute the trades and monitor growth, she can do the research and put the paperwork in pretty matching household binders or call around to gather information); status updates done quarterly. He picks the family activity for the weekend, she gets the details done. Etc. Etc. As for the bolded CH text, any female and especially those in the breadwinner role will hit decisionmaking paralysis at least 2-5 times a week (yes, even over the stupid crap about what to have for dinner or what shoes to wear). A man who can recognize internally that she is on the edge of that ledge, affirmatively step in, and say, “do A, B, C and D” to take that pressure off is gold…
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RT @Heminator: Well, America had a good run. “Harvard’s Kennedy School Adds Privilege-Checking to New-Student Orientation” http://t.co/tx38… ””””””””
ch every link you post pretty much doesn’t work
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Even The New York Times, a repository of pretty lies if there ever was one, posted an article (and a very long one at that), addressing many of these points. From February of this year and well worth reading. At certain points, you could almost swear you were reading CH.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html?_r=1
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Good read…
CH,
Could this also be because female breadwinners felt like they ‘settled’ for their husbands and secretly despise them? I imagine most of them would rather be banging their bosses (even if they are much older) than go back home to a kitchen bitch.
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There is definitely some truth to this. Hypergamy is more powerful than most are willing to admit.
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Really curious why an investment bank would commission a study on marital happiness.
Tough pitch as to how you use it in a politically correct way. Does your bank have a brokerage arm? They could use it to pitch their services to men. “Does your wife make more than you? To reduce the risk of divorce you should take charge of the finances. Come talk to us. We can help you.” This would have to be done in subtler language of course. They could also use it to target as clients households where men are breadwinners. Less of a risk of divorce and losing half the household’s assets.
On the ibanking side…geeze. maybe it suggests that high earning women should continue to pay for domestic services rather than expecting it of husbands. Restaurants, child care, cleaning, tutoring, geriatric care, surrogates. Those industries might be interested in that info.
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This is why Filipino Marriage is successful b/c in their culture their husband is the one who making money and the wife is taking care of the house and kids. The husband working hard for his family and the wife is busy taking care of her family. The marriage is successful b/c the husband gained a lot of respects from his wife and children b/c he is the one making for a living. Most of filipino men never working in the kitchen that is wife territory, to cook and serve her husband and children is her duty everyday. Wife serves their husband like a KING.
If husband does kitchen work they’ll call him “under the skirt”.
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Question: I don’t live with my girlfriend but we spend probably 3-4 days/week together, typically at her place. I used to be a line cook at a nice restaurant, still consult with restaurants/cater, come from a family who cooks well, and – to be honest – am a better cook than most people I know.
Our relationship is super tight in this fashion. She actually does make more $$$ than I do, buys me plane tickets w/o me asking, mends/sews my clothes for me, picks up after I cook, and cleans at my house. Is the fact that I do all the cooking an issue? What do you guys recommend I do? I would like her to do some cooking but she really sucks at it. She knows, I’ve told her.
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Gotta have some division of labor, might as well be a manly thing like heating meat with fire.
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She can bake pretty well. I just don’t eat sweets or breads or any of that shit.
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It’s not an issue if she does all those other things for you. You can be definitely be dominant in the kitchen, just tease/tell her that her cooking isn’t up to your standards and you’re going to teach her how to prepare meals for you. Then you cook together, with you running the show.
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links freezing…
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Someone needs to link this in the MMSL forums, it’s gotten far too feminized there.
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I noticed that too. A man posting ideas like this would get thrashed on the boards by all the females and manboobs.
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its months past the need to abandon Athol.
he seems like a money stressed and weak sell out as his focus seems to be on smoothing any perceptions in an attempt to monetize.
and waaaay to much focus on his wife as a partner as opposed to looking at m/f relationships more logically, as husbandry.
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Athol and Man’s Fault (no) Sex Life jumped the shark years ago.
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Question: if you’re living with a girl in an apartment in a big city you’re not going to be doing “manly” yard work or necessarily fixing the car (you may well take the subway or bus). There’s still a need for kitchen work, general cleaning, and laundry to be done though. So what the hell to do? Just act as if it’s obvious that she should do it? Or, if you have the money, hire someone?
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> “So what the hell to do?”
Well, you could do like all the other men in the city, and become an on-the-down-low faggot.
Go hang out with Barry and Rahm and the boys up at Man’s Country.
Or you could move to flyover country and be a real man.
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It’s all about frame then… hiring someone to do that for you is a good first step. It says that you’re too important to waste your very valuable time on things like cleaning.
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Yeah fortunately I have the resources to do that, at least often enough that I rarely have to be seen in the kitchen. But I wonder how guys without much disposable income cope. Can they really insist on the chick doing the kitchen every night and get away with it, even if highly alpha? Especially if she may work even more at a day job? Maybe but I’m happy it’s not a situation I need to face.
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There are ways to be highly alpha while still taking care of the house stuff. It’s all about making sure she understands ‘why’. If you do it because you’re “sharing responsibility” or some PC crap, then she won’t respect you. If, on the other hand, you present it as an “omg, you (her) is such a disgusting slob; I just HAD to clean up because I can’t live like this”… then you retain frame.
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My boyfriend likes to joke about making me keep my job and him staying home and raising the kids when we have them. Freaks me out. I don’t want this to happen to us.
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Did you tell him that, Cynthia? Are you willing to understand that this is in your nature? Please tell him before you blow up a family due to your hamster.
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You need to tell him that “this Freaks you out” because it has been indoctrinated into your being.
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Huh? It freaks me out because Idon’t want to be the breadwinner in the family; I want to be at home with the kids, when we finally have them. He’s the one who keeps joking about it.
I’ve tried to talk to him about it, but it’s one of those discussions we need to have straight out, because sometimes he doesn’t take things that worry me very seriously.
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> “it’s one of those discussions we need to have straight out”
Gee, ya think?
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There are times when, as a woman, one feels as if a topic has been discussed, when for the man, it hasn’t been. This is one of those, I think.
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If I knew it freaked you out, I would say it just to make you anxious. He probably knows how you really feel and will likely keep working.
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“cynthia
There are times when, as a woman, one feels as if a topic has been discussed, when for the man, it hasn’t been. This is one of those, I think.
OMFs! How daft!
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I know how that sounds. At the same time, it’s a very real problem. Us girls often think we’ve made something clear, while the guy still has no idea what the issue is. What would you prefer? A total lack of self-awareness?
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Oh come now Anonymous, you know you’re not being clear. Here’s an example of clear, and an example of how most women would express it.
Clear: “Dear, we’re not going out often enough these last few months, would you be so kind as to plan a couple of evenings out this week?”
Womanspeak: “Must be nice to have a social life.”
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show me your cunt
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C’mon dude, that’s a little declasse.
Supposed to ax for the titty shots first.
I mean, we’ve got standards standards here at the Chateau.
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Yeah it’s true, I do very little women chores, and I handle the money, but I make more money, even though I’m a house husband. Women love men who can do manly chores, that save money and inconvenience. Plus I make most of the decisions, it’s pretty obvious when your wife asks you a question of what you want. Deferring for the wife to make the choice is a real killer.
If you want to surprise the wife, once in a very spontaneous blue moon, do a woman chore you don’t like, mine is the dishes. See the Beta cares.
So simple.
The other night my missus said I could of been a porn star. That’s 13 years strong, see women like staying power, or is that stamina.
One thing for sure, handling the money or having a say in financial matters certainly saves money.
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My wife once suggested we do some household chores together…
So I mopped the floor with her.
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lol’d classic
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[…] By CH […]
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My last one was constantly starting arguments like this, but I never backed down. So some women don’t adjust their temperament accordingly – they are too far gone down the path of agitating bitchiness. I had to put her on the launch pad into orbit. So being alpha, it just doesn’t work with some women and you end up with no choice but to move on for the sake of your mental wellbeing. Ultra feminists sometimes just don’t respond and you end up in an endless battle of the wills for dominance. Theze are the cunts who end up as crazy cat ladies and/or mass boxed wine consumerz.
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Some of these bitches have wandered so deep into the heart of The Darkness that you could spend the rest of your life – 50, 60, 70 years – trying to coax them back out, and into The Light, and yet still have a pretty high probability of failing [when all was said and done].
Seek out the girls with some basic human warmth and kindness and decency in their hearts.
And run don’t walk away from the ones with The Darkness.
Life is too dadgum short to do otherwise.
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Foolish human.
“Biomechanics” Har Har.
Very well. I shall argue in a way you human can understand.
Biology is rooted in chemistry.
Chemistry is rooted in physics.
At the end of the day we are no more than subatomic particles whirling around each other.
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The electrons made me do it, eh?
Avaunt, thou impious fool!
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Another “avaunt?” Another “thou?” Another “impious?”
You are a repetitive turd.
And now that your Master Matt King is gone, you must be feeling adrift and alone.
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Says the butt-bandit clown who continuously follows me around to repetitively whine about my droll use of anachronistic language.
You fairy.
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“Feminism” is dyke “nature.” “Feminism” IS “war on woman.” “Feminism” contains not a scintilla of femininity. “Feminism” is a program to spiritually, intellectually and biological stunt the white female. “Feminism” on top = Butch as “alpha male.”
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I know some of us already lurk Krauser, but in case you don’t, he has a great piece up http://krauserpua.com/2014/05/12/the-10-invisible-barriers-to-daygame/ about the realities of day game and how difficult it is to excel it.
I can attest to these “invisible barriers”. I’ve been hitting the pavement when I have time (I’m almost 30 and need to adjust my venues accordingly). I am SO BAD at this day game thing and it has made me privy to the illusion of security that nightlife trolling can bring. Anyway, read the fucking article.
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There is one and only one secret to Day Game.
YOU MUST NOT CARE.
Once you stop caring, everything will flow like magic.
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Wish it were that easy. Not caring is an important element but there is a lot of tactical nuance that must be learned if you want results.
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If you’re worrying about nuance, then you still care.
STOP CARING.
If there’s some chemistry between the two of you, then go with the flow. Screw nuance.
If not – if there’s no chemistry – then NEXT!
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get good at day game and you will never go back to night game.
major quality gains
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This one hits home. I’m dealing with what some may believe is a high-quality problem. But it’s still a problem that strikes at the heart of my masculine identity.
I’ve recovered and then some from a nasty, contentious divorce that left me deep in the hole. Then I got fired. All in the depth of the Great Bernankification. Summoning on inner reserves of resiliency and cunning I didn’t know I had, I started a business – a high-profile, risky venture. And it’s doing well. I’m earning double what I’ve ever done before – and I own 100 percent of my time. Life has never been better.
Except … the snake in the garden …
My main gal inherited fuckwads of money, like not-quite nine digits, but well up into the eights. She’s sex-on-a-stick hot, AND sweet-natured. Waist-hip ratio in the low 60s. Curvy and swervy. And she’s incredibly smart – a highly respected doctor who works only because she genuinely cares about people.
Always lets me pay when I can afford it, never gives me shit when I can’t. Just a all-around lovely person.
It’s been three years now, and the disparities between our incomes is becoming more of a problem. I’m certain it will lead to our breakup unless I can figure out a strategy. Right now, I dominate her effectively in-and-out of the bedroom, never asking what she wants to do, but inviting her along to what I want to do.
It’s pretty clear she’s over the moon for me. And why not? I’m a big sexy guy with more social proof than anyone she’s ever met. I’m strong, (mostly) silent, and am achieving incredible creative things.
The problem is her money. I have what seems like plenty by my standards, but I can’t keep up with her lavish lifestyle. For those who say, “what’s the problem?” They don’t understand that a man has to pay his own way. Tough choices.
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If you make clear that you intend to live within your means, then it shouldn’t be a problem. Express your desire that the money inherited be used to fund the next generation, and that’s fine…and if she wants to pay for a big house, etc., let her use the cash to fund her priorities, not yours…
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Jesus Christ you’re whining like a little bitch.
STFU and put some buns in her oven already.
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Pretty much, just like the dude below said. You are dating rockstar hot pussy with deep 8 digit inheritance who is smart enough to be a doctor. She is over the moon for you still after 3 years. She should be twice impregnated already. With money like that, you could create the Ubermensch and never have to think twice about their future.
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first time commentator here and i’m doing it to tell you: if your story is true and you don’t knock her up, you’re an idiot. a weapons grade idiot who will lead a life of regret over squandering an opportunity.
you want to talk about being alpha? what’s more alpha than snagging access to resources that will make your spawn light years ahead in the game of life than they otherwise would be?
middle class women are banging deadbeat drug addict trash and letting them drive their cars. they still get wet for these guys. i don’t know what’s wrong with you.
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@yareally and @amy idk if you remember my situation with this young super high smv girl in college. But, it’s been like 12 months no joke of fucking/hanging out on off every 1-2 to even 3 weeks. She has initiated in the past but I’m basically the one who sets the meet ups and hang outs. She’s asked me mid hook up “are you seeing other girls” and “I need to know what you want” which I took as shit tests we’ve continued seeing each other still too. I took her to a hockey game recently and we got drunk and had a good time. But then nothing (no texting/calling). It’s like I set up this frame b/c I over games or something.
Anyways now I’m all mindfucked b/c this chick is a very high smv and an LTR logically isn’t a good idea in my life right now probably. But, I want one with her.
I’ve tried slowly rolling into it by hanging out more. But, me initiating a lot feels like being the chaser. Should I have straight up told her that I in fact want the be more relationshipy. Or is this “uncertainty” ok for a girl and I’m just being a bitch about it.
I’m not worried of losing her necessarily. I’m just worried that I’m doing this wrong by having let this whole situation go on for so long to the point where it looks like I don’t know what I want.
It just feels like the next time I do a big “push” and don’t talk to her she will just give up and become indifferent b/c it’s been like this for so long.
Also worried she’ll fuck another guy even though I know 1 night stands are highly unlikely for her. BUT if her desire for me is high enough then wouldn’t she give one last all out attempt to be with me before she starts with another guy?
If you know about the monkey branch analogy (girls hold on to a man until they get another and let go of the old news guy, just as a monkey swings from one branch to the next and let’s go). I just don’t want her looking for another monkey branch.
The hockey game seemed to go well…but then we don’t text. HA wtf.
Should I somehow communicate I want an LTR…she has before….
How would you guys handle this situation in all honesty.
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pushing for an LTR is a losing hand. rare exceptions aside, you should never initiate LTR talk. leave that to the girl.
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Put a fucking bun in the bitch’s oven.
God damn it.
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And if you’re in a LTR, push to get out.
Dread rape!
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Didn’t I already go over this with you man?
Let me put it in harsher terms: once you reveal that you want a relationship more than she does, you are a faggot in her eyes.
Stop trying to verbally logic her into an LTR, you have to build attraction and rapport and then SHE will move the relationship forward and you will decide if that’s what you want. There is no way around this unless you want to fall on your sword and take little spoon’s hand in marriage.
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You didn’t overgame. If she was into you she’d be pushing to meet up more. I’m going to be brutally honest. I don’t think she’s that into you, and/or she’s seeing someone else too. 12 months of this without her pushing to escalate is not a good sign. I think you have to go dark on her for a while and get her head spinning on why you’ve lost interest in her. It’s your only shot. Meanwhile go out with other girls.
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Thanks all for the advice I realize I’m being a bitch about this.
I’m going to go dark on her but after about 2 or so weeks of going dark she pops up again wtf. Do I ignore and/or act cold one word response?
And again she has literally already said “I want to be more relationshipy and see where it goes” but I said the whole “I think something like that develops naturally and she’s a favorite girl of mine to hang out with”. If I agreed wouldn’t that be “logically moving to an LTR”….
Also I’m struggling with the building rapport while maintaining alpha frame…suggestions/help with this?
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> “Also I’m struggling with the building rapport while maintaining alpha frame…suggestions/help with this?”
BETA: “Gosh, do you think that maybe we could start seeing each other more often? Pretty please with sugar on top? Please, please, do you think so? Please?”
ALPHA: “Stop talking your birth control pills.”
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You are Steve in Tyler’s story right now:
That said, all I can say is: there’s a big difference between sitting a girl down and saying “you know, I wasn’t sure about you when we met. I wasn’t looking for anything serious and I didn’t picture myself in a relationship anytime soon. I know you wanted more but respected my boundaries enough not to hassle me about it and you’ve shown me that you’re a cool chick in general. We’ve been hanging out more lately and it’s been fun and I’ve decided to let you be my girlfriend.” is very different than saying “umm I like you a lot…do you maybe want to be my girlfriend maybe? I mean, if you like me…please?”
This will blow up in your face is she isn’t that into you like Amy says tho. I’m only posting it because there’s a small % chance than your adamant refusal to be in an LTR may have, if she’s a certain personality type, made her scared to ever bring it up out of fear of scaring you off and just hopes you bring it up.
Remember you’re allowing her into your already complete life as long as she follows the rules and you are willing to kick her out at any time. You’re NOT looking for her to fix or complete you. You’re very generously ALLOWING her to be a part of your life.
And make sure you qualify her like “at first such and such but since we’ve been hanging out lately I’ve noticed blah blah about you and I like it, so I’ve decided…” Ideally make the blah blah something about how sweet or nurturing she is or some shit lol. This helps make her feel like she earned you VS you being lame and NEEDING her
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That’s a solid point.
The weird thing about this all is that I really don’t think I am “Steve” in Tyler’s example b/c this girl DROPS everything 90% of the time to hang out with me when all we do is fuck when we hang out really or do something a little more. Good example though of how to word it and keep frame
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@Will
“this girl DROPS everything 90% of the time to hang out with me when all we do is fuck when we hang out really or do something a little more. Good example though of how to word it and keep frame”
This is what makes me think you might have just scared her off bugging you about it VS her not being interested at all. The Steve thing was more to get you to watch the video and avoid getting trapped in a one-itisy headspace lol ESPECIALLY once you get her.
End of the day just sit her down and tell her you’ve decided to let her be your GF. Try not to make it a big deal, she pings off you to know how to feel so if it’s a big scary thing to you, it will be to her. Think of it like your little sister/cousin asking to come along with you and your buddies to the mall and you’re like “ya, alright, you can come” doing her a favor.
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interesting.
i almost came close to doing this with my current i gave her options a few weeks ago:
either 1. we try this out again on better terms/boundaries, 2. i fuck you and you dont ask me about my life and i dont give a shit about yours 3. no contact
she txted me maybe a day or 2 after that – i said sorry not gonna chill, have you made your mind up yet..
needless to say i got sucked back into it when i was drinking at the same bar she was.. and bam, 3 weeks later i explode again in a post-sex drunken take on her hanging with a skid row dealer – she made the excuse saying she was only there to pick up her gf – oh, and have the dealer play a song for her on his guitar.
so i think i regret giving her options etc as opposed to being aloof – guess that what happens with exes you still find something in
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@ya really I got one more question for ya.
If I push her away and she ends up starting fucking another dude or something and then I reappear a year later would that work? Or is that completely fucking it all up? What’s the take on that
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“If I push her away and she ends up starting fucking another dude or something and then I reappear a year later would that work?”
lol
c’mon man. I know you’re looking for yareally’s advice and I’m not trying to shit on your thread…but have some self-respect.
just listen to yourself
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Haha lol I know.
Wow wtf ha.
I give up ha. Amount of effort from here in out might have to just reach zero
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But my point is….wouldn’t she initiate contact with me more than once a week or so if she wanted LTR…even if she wasn’t trying to “bug me about it” she would opt for plan b: contact more to hangout and see him. That’s my logic…
Still so weird how we have rough sex, cuddle, and do whatever but just once 1-2-3 weeks
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it’s been like 12 months no joke of fucking/hanging out
You’re friend zoned dude… Pass on this one and move on to greener pastures. You’ve wasted shit-loads of time – jeez, 12 months… If I’m not bedding her in a week, it’s time to move your focus onto one that is interested, because she sure as heck isn’t…
And if a woman ever asks “what do you want” show her – grab her, take a hand full of her hair, pull her to you hard, and show her what you want. No woman has EVER asked me what I want – she knows within 20 seconds of meeting me when I give her the once over with my eyes.
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So far, so good. Just things come up when we’re traveling, especially. I can’t afford these five-diamond resorts.
Background: She’s clearly expecting to get married. I won’t even commit to living together. Things are awesomely sexy and fun right now. I’ve made it clear that co-habitation would spoil a perfectly good thing.
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Sperm. Ovum.
Bun. Oven.
Wait nine months.
Push really hard.
Wah wah wah.
Stock up on diapers & baby formula.
Did none of you tards even pay attention during fifth grade “Family Life” sex ed?
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BETA: “Would you consider going off of The Pill?”
ALPHA: “Stop taking The Pill. If you’ve got any left, lying around the house, then throw them out with the trash.”
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Yes marital happiness is about the man’s dominance and has nothing to do with money. I had a problem with the laundry machines in my rental unit and my rich landlord told me “I will get back to you about that later, I need to ask my wife first.”
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It’s clear who’s the real landlord of your rental unit.
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Have you thoght about fucking the landlord’s wife behind his back?
Or at least fucking his daughter?
Look at the second syllable in that word, “land-LORD”.
And think about the etymology of it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
Now go fuck his wife AND his daughter.
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My misery is from dealing with leftists. Whether human or black.
Rape!
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> “My misery is from dealing with leftists.”
Can you rearrange things to get them out of your life?
The more I think about it, the more the Amish solution seems the most prescient.
Just turn your back on all of this nihilism – walk away from it, don’t look back – and create a new and better world for you and yours to inhabit.
That, plus purchase ammunition by the truck load.
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The Amish, old order I mean, have it going on in spades. They may look “weird” to outsiders but they have life down pat.
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Yeah, the Amish don’t waste their lives on social media. Oh wait….
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Yeah, the Amish don’t waste their lives on social media.
Yeah, there is that. I can’t imagine an Amish girl’s FB page.
Her:
“Today I churned butter with mama.”
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Amish father:
“Get back to work, girl!”
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The fact that Frankfurt School hasn’t interfered with the Amish suggests thatthere are limits to the elites anti-White malevolence, other by design or coincidence.
As was suggested by an astute commenter here years ago, the Amish pacifism and anti-gun ways keep the governments they live under from getting nervous about such a robust and insular subculture.
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They aren’t anti-gun. Where did you get that idea? Schwarzentruber (sp) aka old order Amish all have guns, down to kids 7 years old and younger. I’ve seen them walking the fields with rifles over their shoulders, in northern and central Ohio most of my life. They hunt, you know, and they don’t resort to spears and napped flint arrows and bows to do it.
I think whomever you are paraphrasing probably meant “anti-murder of another human being”, not “anti-gun”.
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Fair enough. The larger point stands.
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[…] fall into a submissive (conventionally feminine) role. As the red pill gods would have it Heartiste had a timely post outlining all of the logistical failing of this arrangement today, but underneath all of the trappings that make this model seem imbalanced is the reversal of […]
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Truck loads of ammo…. Indeed, but always bring along plenty of tracer rounds.. Fire them 10 feet high over the bad guys heads; especially at night. They will start to feel safe, watching your poor accuracy on display.They may even stand up to look around. Good
You, and a light-gathering ACOG, and a few magazines-full of XM855 ball will now join together to create a moment of clarity.
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House hold men disgust me, there is nothing manly like making sandwiches for your wife and this study proves exactly that.
I don’t know why they are so reluctant to publish the study, this message has been preached so many times and it wouldn’t be the first time a study proves this type of finding.
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Not so much “they” as “she”, the chick he mentioned running it past. Women and manginas in business create these “controversies”.
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There is only one potential benefit of being a househusband with a wife that goes out and works and makes enough money to support them/their family.
Should things eventually go to hell and end up in divorce, the woman, as the primary earner is in the position that men typically find themselves…. getting butt raped in the Family Courts for no fault divorce.
It’s trully funny to hear a woman bitterly complain when the shoe is on the other foot and they lose half the assets and/or the house.
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My problem is that since I started living alone, I got pretty good at cooking and my place is cleaner than the place of most women I know that live alone. If I’m to have a girl do my household chores, she has to be better at it than most women in order to please me.
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I think you guys are missing the point. The marketing girl has a problem with the findings because it’s a faux pas in the corporate world to utter politically incorrect things since it can attract the ire of the leftist degenerates towards the corporation. This is why she probably has a problem with it and why there’s resistance to publishing the results. Corporations care about profits, not about truth. This isn’t a problem regarding the headline either. If I was managing their competition, I’d just read the whole study, summarize it like CH did and get my marketing team working. The message would be we’re not sexist bigots and we have better service too.
Couldn’t the study be published in another way than under the corporation’s name?
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I forgot to mention that I was talking to a female friend of mine about her boyfriend and I asked her what does she like about him. Her answer was along the lines of him being childish and jealous, but somehow him having the best personality. Rather funny because I assume childish = aloof and teases her and jealous = acts like the boss of me. Best personality = him being ‘childish’ and ‘jealous’ makes me wet.
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Of some relevance.
http://therationalmale.com/2014/05/13/intersexual-hierarchies-part-ii/
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I like how all of this reaffirms my total disdain for housework, and the way I handled things when I had a crappy job for awhile. I wear the pants, she wears the skirts. We used to apologize to our SWPL friends for the way we “accidentally happened to align with traditional gender roles, even though, of course, we’re obviously totally egalitarian, and this is purely a coincidence.”
I hate SWPLs. They’re my people alright. Born atheist, politically correct, and liberal. I’m adopting a new and better culture at last, and my people can choke to death on their Prius farts.
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> “I’m adopting a new and better culture at last”
Can you find an Old School church in your neck of the woods?
Paleo-primitive?
One that has tent revivals and speaking in tongues and snake handling and baptism in the creek?
And of course really awesome Gospel Hymns?
Also, a man can never own too many firearms or too much ammunition for them.
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The thought that flashed through my head was: “Jolo!” Is Jolo pale-primitive enough for you? That’s where the famous snake handler church is, and I’ve been there several times.
I just took a road trip with approximately 100 pounds of ammo and three rifles, and one of the girls I talked to before the trip said, “That don’t sound weird to me, that sounds normal.”
I’m getting this zeroed in. I need to go kill something with one of these guns, and eat it. Maybe that will cure the last of my SWPLism.
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Tan the hide afterwards and make a coat out of it.
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Also, a man can never own too many firearms or too much ammunition for them.
yup
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Re: US blacks
They do suffer the double whammy of low IQ and lack of father. The US blacks I interacted with professionally were high IQ and from intact families.
But, as pointed out above, the ruling clique likes it like this – I guess one can always import slav(e)s to shore up the fieldservant stratum.
Oh, well.
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Some random chick left the following message on my blog pot, “Gaming a 10.” “You know that referring to human beings as numbers is kinda shitty, right? Being autistic is no excuse for that.”
I read this as attention-whoring. So, maybe I’ll wait a day and reply, “Chill, I wasn’t talking about you.”
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Point out that she should give up her social security number.
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Don’t give Game advice to an Axelrod.
Where’s your sense of honor?
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What’s an Axelrod?
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The hamster is on steroids with this one…
http://www.hannahettinger.com/fuck-the-patriarchy-guest-post-by-clare/
Hamster: 17-year-old curvy and sexy girl in sexy dress violates no rules, gets kicked out of her homeschool senior prom, blames chaperon dads
Reality: 17-year-old mudshark gets kicked out of her homeschool senior prom from looking/acting like a slut, doesn’t blame the WOMAN prom organizer who actually kicked her out and shamed her for her actions/looks
The title of the post is “Fuck the Patriarchy.” Unbelievable.
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LOL, been reading the comments. Holy fuck.
Check out this white knight faggot who apologizes for his gender and cites the made-up rape culture argument. He also says he was two sons. Ah, the decline….
http://www.hannahettinger.com/fuck-the-patriarchy-guest-post-by-clare/#comment-1382947115
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The comments are the worst part. Between “you go grrrrrrl!”, pussy whipped manginas and the occasional lucid comment that gets the “Creepy!” tag thrown on it, it’s a veritable smorgasbord of western decline in disguise as a blog.
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Note how the negro girl commenter was the only one who sussed out the whole “It’s actually ’cause you were grinding on a black guy” meme.
That aside, the comment section was, indeed, a primer on Western decline.
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Hey Greg, long time no see as a “regular”. Glad to see that you’re back commenting with some frequency.
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Mostly against my better judgment… slow week, idle hands, Devil’s workshop, all that. Enjoy it while it lasts. 😉
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… when cuckolding is a good thing …
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That aside, the comment section was, indeed, a primer on Western decline.
I suspect that there are plenty of nonlibtards who saw the piece but held their tongues.
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If her version of the story is correct, she didn’t act like a slut. I don’t know where the black girl (Mila) got the idea that she was grinding on the black guy, but Clare said:
“We weren’t dancing, but swaying with the music and talking and enjoying ourselves, when Mrs. D again approached me, and gestured me off the dance floor.”
I don’t think her dress was slutty either. Form-fitting, but not slutty. But if you think it is slutty, I won’t argue the point.
The only part of the story I take issue to is:
“When we walked out of the prom, frustrated and angry and feeling very disrespected and violated, some of the people in my group shouted profanities at the security guards, and I personally flipped them off.”
I have a problem with this because it is unladylike, and it didn’t help her at all. I’m sure these kids felt like they were doing the right thing, standing up for justice and all that, but that is just youthful idealism, which has been around forever. @ Greg- I don’t think it is a sign of western decline. But there sure are a lot of those signs around!
@ Mel And I agree with you that her anger towards the patriarchy is misplaced. Maybe the dads who were chaperoning the dance were being creepy, but honestly I think a lot of times teenage girls imagine this stuff. My friends in high school were always like “OMG, that guy is such a creep! He’s creeping on us!” I am sure you are aware that women often like to imagine that they are the object of every man’s desire. The woman prom organizer was being unreasonable. If the rule was, dress goes to your fingertips, than that is the rule. Women get jealous of other women. Right off the bat, the prom organizer didn’t want to let her in, then the girl demonstrated that she followed the rules. Mrs. D was probably chafing over being embarrassed in front of the chaperones, so she needed to make an example out of Clare to prove she was right.
Sorry about the long comment. This story just interests me, and there are several layers of issues here that ought to be addressed.
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Reblogged this on I Struck the Board, and cried, No more.
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update the death gap stats how many women died here?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/14/world/europe/turkey-mine-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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lzozlozo
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/05/13/online-dating-flirting-grounds-divorce-france-judge-rules?hpt=hln10_5&hpt=hp_t3
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Plush manlet. Best phrase ever.
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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/05/13/6-students-arrested-after-fight-at-streamwood-h-s/ – Diversity + Proximity… But let’s hire a bunch of armed men to force everyone to play nice.
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maybe that will be the only jobs in future maybe the elites are pretty smart creating makework jobs for when no work is needed
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OT: Louis C.K.’s ‘Fat Girl’ strikes a nerve [CNN]:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/14/showbiz/tv/louis-ck-fat-girl/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
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The replies under the article are solid gold (mostly). Fat shaming is alive and well I’m happy to report.
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Too easy.
Your woman makes more money than you? That’s a good thing. She’s yours.
“You work for me.”
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my girl got me rollin
I called so they give her meds but before that she flipped the medcart cause they wouldn’t give em to her
then now they not again she got 10 days in hole for that I guess they said they were gonna mace her she told em that mace don’t work go ahead and spray me with that coolaid so they did
then they gave her 5 days in hole for trying to escape out the foodtray hole in the hole lol she said how could I escape my head don’t fit out the hole nevermind my body
said wrote me 39 page letter so far lol but cant get envelope till she gets out the hole
jesus Christ I guess she ain’t likin jail
said she pretty much kicks the door all night and screams nothing else to do
said they gonna strap her in chair dam
who the fuck can I call about her not getting her medicine she was prescribed
when they sent her to the hospital?
I guess i’d be pissed too if they fucking with my meds but you under their control and if thy don’t give em you can’t get em
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although she sounded pretty good might be a good thing if they never give her another fucking pill
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heartiste @heartiste · 2h
Women have a lover and provider double standard. Men have a cheap thrill and investment property double standard.
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I don’t get it he he he
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This is an excellent study. But too much reality that needs to be toned down by that piss they call political correctness.
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YaReally: Liked the vids you posted. that one of Liam on the bridge was a great training aid (someone needs to tell that dude though that his new “hipster” glasses make him look like a liberal sissy bitch type.
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Hi all,
I was the source that sent these study results. To answer some of the questions about the study-
1) Why did an investment bank commission this study- This firm, like many firms, releases a number of research papers on client insights, demographic research etc. It’s not all risk and return numbers here. The marketing head specifically posed a research question about why female breadwinners are still less likely to take responsibility for major financial decisions compared to male breadwinners. She was also the one who wanted to ask about non-financial aspects of relationships such as attraction, sex etc. She asked for this study and was entirely on board with releasing it publicly until she saw the results.
2) The number one cause of loss of assets for our brokerage arm outside of market downturns is divorce. The firm has discussed keeping a roster of marriage counselors to refer clients to among other things to make some effort to mitigate this. Divorce is not really a competitive disadvantage as all firms have the same issue, so we end up playing musical chairs with clients upon their divorces. However, if one firm had a strategy that helped reduce divorce even slightly, it would be a unique competitive advantage.
3) This was not a case of me against the firm. I had everyone except one person on my side. The head of research, the marketing head’s attractive female underlings, the strategic head and even the PR director etc. I see how the cathedral works now. They haven’t totally brainwashed everyone. They are merely especially vocal about stifling the wrong ideas and most others don’t really care enough to stand up to them.
But the good news is that younger generations seemed most amenable to these findings. The marketing head will be retired soon, and I will still be here.
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[…] The CH mailbag received a while back results from an unpublished study that added confirmation to the weight of evidence that househusbands (aka kitchen bitches, sexual egalitarians, plush manlets) have worse sex lives and unhappier wives. Quote from the original CH post: When men are men and women are women, the sex is more frequent. And probably hotter, too. When men are scalzied manboobs and women are manjawed feminists, the bedroom is an arid wasteland of dashed passion. Sexual polarity — the primal force that adheres the cosmic cock to the celestial snatch — is the truth of truths that belies every feminist assertion ever made in the history of that insipid, leprotic ideology. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/13/the-misery-of-the-househusband/ […]
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@ YaReally
“They’ll throw an angry tantrum one second and then be cuddly and apologetic the next.”
Oh, yeah, wife poured out my beer on my sleeve at the club just because I danced three dances in a row with a 20-something blonde. The next day the wife was all kissy-flirty.
(The wife expected me to dance with her every other dance and I had a dance chemistry thing going with the blonde and the dj meshed the music of three songs so that there was no break between the three songs.
The wife _should_ have been upset about the other blonde who was hanging on me, holding onto me, keeping her face in my kiss zone, mooning at me, holding her groin against mine, etc, lol.)
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[…] The CH mailbag received a while back results from an unpublished study that added confirmation to the weight of evidence that househusbands (aka kitchen bitches, sexual egalitarians, plush manlets) have worse sex lives and unhappier wives. […]
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