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Comment Of The Week: Deere John

May 17, 2014 by CH

COTW winner newlyaloof experiences what it’s like to be on the receiving end of a typical woman’s exquisitely honed talent for manipulation.

Women want everything in life – except for their men – to appease them.

Wife just called asking where lawnmower key was. I recognize this now for what it is. A shit test for me to say, “Don’t worry about it. I’ll do it when I get home.” But, I told her where the key was and to have fun. Haha. I could tell she wasn’t ready for that. She responded a few comments about hopefully being able to figure it out (again more guilt-loaded shit tests to get me to say I’d do it). I told her to have fun and she’d learn a thing or two. She replied, “Well, does it have any gas in it?” (another attempt) I replied, I don’t know, but fill it up if it needs it.” She replied, “No, I don’t want to fill it up with gas.”

See, she wanted the grass cut. She didn’t care about how busy I am or how many other priorities I have in front of the grass. She wanted appeasement on the grass, plain and simple, but she didn’t think it was worthy of her time to fill it up with gas. Think of that betas. She didn’t feel it was worth one minute of her time to fill up the lawn mower, but an hour of my time cutting the grass with it was.

Like the Federal reserve and our money supply, the more appeasement you give out, the lower your value. You’ve got to defund the Hypergamy Reserve one monetary-asshole-unit at a time.

I’m afraid it’s in the nature of woman to believe an indentured servant waiting on her hand and foot is an unalienable right granted by possession of a vagina. That’s why men need game… to disabuse women of that notion. Because the alternative is sucking up to ever more egregious demands for ever fewer opportunities at her snatch.

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COTW runner-up is a putative female reader, cynthia, who writes,

Appeasement: to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

The MAN wants to appease. Peace, reconciliation, quiet.

The WOMAN wants something entirely different. We want drama.

You guys want the game to stop, with definitive results. We want the game to keep going forever.

Pithy. And surprisingly insightful… for a woman. (“for a woman” is the new “not all women are like that”.) Men do a lot of up-front hard work to court women, and so justifiably feel they should be able to coast once within the comfy confines of an LTR. Victory in war, followed by a long peace.

Women want none of that. They crave the drama, and get antsy when it’s missing. This is because women, unlike men, have shallow but wide and hungry egos that need constant validation. This need for validation issues from a subconscious realization that their worth is almost entirely tied up in their (fading) looks, while a man’s worth is connected to many facets of his life. Women lose sexual value at just the time that men gain sexual value, and from that dynamic is born women’s insatiable need for ego-validating drama to, paradoxically, quell their fears that their men might trade up.

Now of course there are those few men who are good at seducing women, who relish the game, and who take pleasure in turning the crank on the hamster wheel of up and down emotions. These men are dangerous precisely for the reason that women can’t help but love them so.

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  1. on May 17, 2014 at 10:42 am Comment Of The Week: Deere John | Manosphere.com

    […] Comment Of The Week: Deere John […]

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 2:35 pm Zombie Shane

      I really liked what Max from Australia said this week:

      “Fat women are incredibly emotionally manipulative over everyone around them…

      Most Fat women have been doing shit like this all their miserable lives since they were young children…”

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/incel-vs-insol/#comment-563354

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 12:23 am kai

        Imho no, they suck at it…that’s why you notice, they still try, try hard, and often fail, because they do not have the look to pull it up. Hot girls do it effortlessly and nobody notice…true even between girls, the fatty is low in the social hierarchy…Except if she can find friends who crave dominance and for some reason did not find any man giving what they wants…

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:00 am Zombie Shane

        Two quick points:

        1) You obviously haven’t ever spent significant time in the company of fat chicks, and

        2) You obviously aren’t a Southern Boy [in the USA, -vs- whatever the Aussie equivalent would be] whose home training forces him to have to endure their horseshit, simply because to do otherwise would be the height of bad manners.

        Max hit the nail on the head, at least as regards Anglo/WASP culture.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:52 am Zombie Shane

      Art Historians look at the history of Game and Evopsych and Hypergamy; lots of outstanding historical leads here:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/features/nymphomania-on-display-9303074.html

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 7:51 am Zombie Shane

      Living a conjoined life
      http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22181528

      “With two sets of lungs, two hearts, two stomachs, one liver, one large intestine and one reproductive system, [Abby and Brittany] have learned from a young age to co-ordinate their body…”

      If you rub the clitoris, I wonder which one gets the orgasm? Or if they both cum at the same time?

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 5:49 pm Zombie Shane

      URGENT GBFM ALERT:

      Net Worth Of College Grads With Student Debt Is 20% Less Than High School Grads With No Debt
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-18/net-worth-college-grads-student-debt-20-less-high-school-grads-no-debt

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 6:36 am Zombie Shane

        URGENT GBFM ALERT #2:

        Fewer college grads will have jobs lined up this year: Still a bleak job market
        http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3154960/posts

        “…starting to pay down their share of the $1 trillion-plus student-loan debt.

        The most shocking number of all is that only 17 percent of these soon-to-be grads have a job lined up…”

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 10:36 am Tilikum

        delicious irony

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 1:17 pm Zombie Shane

        > “delicious irony”

        From about three weeks ago:

        These NYC coeds are students by day, strippers by night
        http://nypost.com/2014/04/28/these-nyc-coeds-are-students-by-day-strippers-by-night/

        “Some of these girls came out of school with a $50,000 [or] $100,000 debt. And this is a way for them to not have this debt,” says Diaz…

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 1:20 pm Zombie Shane

        It’s GBFM’s Tucker Max / Goldman Sachs thesis playing out right before your very eyes: Saddle the filthy shiksa witches with so much student loan debt that they have no other choice but to whore themselves to the investment bankers.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 2:18 pm Zombie Shane

        Congratulations, class of 2014: You’re totally screwed
        http://www.salon.com/2014/05/18/congratulations_class_of_2014_youre_totally_screwed/

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  2. on May 17, 2014 at 10:44 am greginaurora

    Since I learned game, I stopped worrying about relationships. The irony for me is that I learned game to be better at getting into and keeping relationships, and the result was that I don’t care whether I’m in a relationship or not, as I’m now looking outward instead of inward. And I’m also in a successful relationship. I’m not trying to keep it, and failing, like in the past. I’m working on a dozen different facets of my life, and I observe there’s a woman by my side offering to help if she can. And taking pleasure in being allowed the reward of my company.

    Damn. If I knew game way back when, I coulda been a man at 18, instead of being “guy” till age 40.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 12:44 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      You ain’t dead, yet. If anything, you should be feeling more alive than ever. Sure, you’re at half-time, but the game ain’t over until you’re six-feet under. Keep on keeping on, brother.

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  3. on May 17, 2014 at 11:16 am Director

    very important points.

    when you graduate high school make sure you are, as a college man hitting on recently graduating high school women. As you become a senior hit on the freshers, as a graduate student bang the sophomores and juniors. As a professor bang em after they graduate. Do not seek dates in your own age group. Keep it legal though chaps.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 12:38 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Here it’s legal for university professors to sex up their students. I don’t know of a single case of a professor getting in trouble for it. I suppose that’s a way to keep in touch with masses of young girls: become their professor. lol

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 4:55 pm Director

        The law I’m talking about is the academic senate and the departmental admin.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:10 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Here the academic senate and department admins don’t seem to mind considering I had professors who married former students. I think the hatred of older man – younger woman relationships there stems from the fact that you have a lot of bitter, dried up women in their 30s who nobody wants.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 10:37 am Tilikum

      almost 40 and i bang college sophomores….is that good?

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 8:36 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Nope, you should marry a woman in her late 30s! 😉

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 11:04 am Tilikum

        Doooooh! I knew I was doing it wrong!

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  4. on May 17, 2014 at 11:22 am Anonymous

    I get this one all the time. It’s always “There’s six inches of snow on the driveway”, not “Will you please clear the driveway?”
    “We’re out of eggs,” not “Will you please pick up some eggs on your way home?”
    If she ever actually asked politely, she would have a much better chance of getting what she wants. Instead she observes a problem and expects me to fix it. Now I simply point out the solution to her problem and get back to doing my own thing. She is starting to realize just how much I used to do for her. I never thought of it as a shit test before, just bad manners. Strong independent women die a little inside when they have to ask nicely for a favor from a man, and I love it. I don’t let my kids get away with that and I won’t let my wife.
    My favorite was when we were at the beach and she looked out in the waves and said our oldest was getting too far out there. I just looked. She used to be a lifeguard, whereas its all I can do to keep my own head above water. Yes, I could go get the kid, but I didn’t think he was too far out there, she did. I though he was fine. In the end another guy we were with went out there and told him to come into shallower water.

    Her own child, she is evidently concerned that he might drown, and she cant be bothered to go get him.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 12:39 pm maldek

      “she cant be bothered to go get him.”
      -> You did not give her permission to go get him.

      The solution is very simple. Give her orders.
      “We are out of eggs” -> Mhm wife go to xyz store and buy some. I will be home at 6 and hungry.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 2:58 pm Troubadour

      I used to fail shit tests like that on a daily basis too. She would hint at something, and I would SNAP into action. Duddley Do-Right at your service ma’am, now may I please have a small crumb of pussy?

      What’s funny is I just remembered something significant from my distant past. After we were first married, I continued to feel up her cousin’s tits in front of her on a regular basis, and went on to seduce and fuck that cousin. I tried to fuck her best friend, and she found out about it, but didn’t tell me she had found out for years, and never seemed fazed by any of it.

      So much is suddenly clear to me. My wife isn’t freaking out about my transformation into Troubadour, because she married Troubadour. In fact, I bet you $100 she arranged to get knocked up to pin me down and force commitment out of me.

      This was what life was like before the Chateau and friends. Vive la difference!

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 4:57 pm Zombie Shane

      > “My favorite was when we were at the beach and she looked out in the waves and said our oldest was getting too far out there… SHE USED TO BE A LIFEGUARD… In the end another guy we were with went out there and told him to come into shallower water… Her own child, she is evidently concerned that he might drown, and she cant be bothered to go get him.”

      Your wife is evil.

      And worthless.

      No, make that just “Evil”, with a capital “E”.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 8:12 pm Zombie Shane

        For the record: I say that because she has past experience as a lifeguard.

        Having experience as a lifeguard but being too fucking lazy to go after your own child who is in danger of drowning is way past simply crossing the line.

        That’s getting well out into Evil.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 1:49 am tickletik

      Are you so sure she’s demanding that you do X in response to situation Y?

      The way you phrased what she says, it sounds like a junior officer informing his commander of the current situation so as to get proper orders.

      Situation #1: the egg caper

      Junior officer vagina: were out of eggs

      Commander awesome: woman, go to store and get two dozen eggs of XYZ variety, and make me a mushroom omelet tonite when I get back from the office at seven

      Junior officer Vagina:

      Situation #2: our kid is about to drown

      JO Vagina: the kid is getting too far out

      Commander Awesome: Good observation JOV! I want you to get down there right now and bring the little brat back here to me ASAP. And If you do it in under 3 minutes I’ll get you a yummy vanilla ice cream as a reward when we take our walk later!

      JO vagina:

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 10:39 am Tilikum

      now THIS is how a (sad) married guy should act…

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 2:40 pm anon

        Yeah, married guys and their wives should definitely engage in shit tests over who is going to do something in the child’s interest, until someone else does something. Because something must be done. Just not by either of them. Agreed it is sad. Jesus wept even.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 3:23 pm Tilikum

        don’t start no stuff wont be no stuff

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 2:58 pm Grim

      real men:

      1. know how to swim
      2. take responsibility for protecting their children, always on red alert, because the mother is not even smart enough to stop them from walking into oncoming traffic.

      it is a myth that mothers are better parents. they need male leadership and guidance. they are just children themselves.

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 6:35 am anon

        + ad infinitum

        Shit tests are no excuse for not grabbing your sack and protecting your kid.

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 12:55 pm yak

        “Shit tests are no excuse for not grabbing your sack and protecting your kid.”

        Yep. You either tell your wife to go get the kid or you do it yourself. Definitely lost points here for letting some other man take care of your business.

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  5. on May 17, 2014 at 11:24 am Steve H

    victory in indifference, sprinkled with punishment for poor behavior. there is no other way.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 3:18 pm leeminh0

      The first step of this blog to become Feminist …

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  6. on May 17, 2014 at 11:48 am walawala

    Both comments are very insightful and corroborate one another.

    I again share my own experiences with my crazy ex gf.

    Her need for drama was what our entire relationship was predicated on.

    I didn’t realize I was caving into it but by arguing with her, by calling her out, by blasting her and challenging her nonsense, I was making her happy by giving her a stick to later hit me with.

    Case and point: she broke up with me two days before a massive event that she had helped me plan and promote. She’d lit the fuse two weeks earlier by going out on a birthday dinner with a “friend” who I know asked her out on a “date”. She didn’t tell me, I asked who she went out with. She said “XXXX”. I realized the guy had no clue we were together. So I asked, “Did you tell him we were together?” Her: “He didn’t ask”…

    I accused her of cheating…in other words, I took the bait.

    She then called me “crazy” saying “He’s just a friend”…and used my anger at this to break up with me…just two days before my big event.

    All perfectly timed to 1) manipulate me into reacting 2) giving her to perfect timing to manipulate me into begging her for either forgiveness or to stay—neither of which I did at the time. The motive for all this remains unclear except that it prompted me to read all I could on Borderline and Cluster B behaviours and I read many posts echoing this exact same scenario with other guys.

    Then she texted me all week as though it was all normal–I ignored. Then she got even more angry and didn’t show up at any of the events and wrote a nasty note asking me to remove her name from a Facebook group where I’d publicly thanked everyone.

    The craziness continued with her later blaming me for abandoning her and “rejecting” her–after she broke up with me.

    I caught her in a lie and cut off all contact for 4 months until I was more or less ok with the whole break-up. Today she’s still pissed at me and after I re-engaged her a few weeks ago— her hamster is in over-drive and she’s actively ignoring me.except I don’t really care anymore. It’s now kind of like “If a Borderline falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear her….is what she says having any effect?”

    I share this story because honestly…I would never have thought 2-3 moves ahead with any action, i’d be much more straightforward. I’m a man.

    You can see how well-executed everything was until it all back-fired when I stopped playing along. She went into anger and panic mode.

    These types of drama queens stop being fun.

    I now game girls who deserve it.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 2:55 am thrust

      thank you, wala.

      I’d like to go into detail on the ongoings with my ex – but its too pathetic, and i feel like a plum for texting her today saying “i have some free time @ 9 sunday night. swing by if you can..”

      she texted back “I’m in ____ this weekend, I’m home Monday though!”

      i txted “monday could work, ill get back to you”

      so i tell my buddy this – he then busted out instagram and showed me a pic of a group pic of all of them – half guys half girls -one, a previous fuck and two, a gut she said she doesnt hang out with anymore..

      since i dont have instagram i checked her pics and came across a recent one with 2 of her guyfriends looking wasted/high etc with bananas near their mouths with this title like “we went bananas last night”

      i feel like such a fucking plum texting her – investing in her, and having my emotions completely rattled by this shit.

      ive never felt so raw before.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:27 pm walawala

        @YaReally This:

        “”But hey, maybe she’ll change. I mean, you’ve given her incentive to change right? You’ve rewarded her with more attention and you chasing her and telling her you’re too attracted to her to let her go. So of COURSE she won’t keep doing what she’s doing even though it’s completely working to keep your attention. I mean, every time you punch me, if I give you $1,000, you’re going to decide to stop punching me right?””

        yes. copy this, print it out, keep it with you and every time you feel like contacting this girl, whip this out and read it 10 times.

        I’m now out of the fog.

        I was where @thrust was

        I see my ex every weekend when she comes out and makes a point to openly flirt with other guys to get a rise out of me.

        Why? Because it’s fun for her. It helps fill the void in her otherwise boring existence.

        But this isn’t a blame game, you have to take a look at why it is you’re locked into this girl. Who does she represent? Break that cycle and figure out why you’re drawn to someone so wrong.

        Self-discipline.

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 6:50 am YaReally

        @thrust
        Lol that’s rough but completely expected. She has learned to treat you like shit and the worst she treats you the more you’ll chase and the more it encourages her to treat you like shit and dangle those carrots.

        @walawala
        Ya that’s the thing is it’s not that you suck thrust. You’re not a shitty person anymore than someone who’s addicted to alcohol or eating bad food is a shitty person. You’re just addicted to her and it’s hard to kick the habit.

        But just like an alcoholic won’t get sober by having a drink and just like a fatty won’t lose weight by eating cupcakes, you have to quit your addiction. No one else can do it for you. You have to go to those AA meetings and vent your shit and get your friends to help support you and pull yourself out of it.

        Cause she’ll keep offering you alcohol and cupcakes. You’ve taught her that you can’t resist them.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 1:34 pm thrust

      quality comment, wala.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm thrust

        I’m seeing my ex probably tomorrow to sort shit out. give her an option on us for the summer, and take it or leave it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm YaReally

        @thrust
        “look, I don’t have any other options…so uhhh would you take pity on me, and out of pity let me touch your vagina once in a while? sure, sure, lead me on a bunch and play some headgames and send screencaps of our conversations to your other guy friends to lol at me behind my back, that’s fine, I’m pretty desperate here.

        Then when winter comes, because I wasted the entire summer to maybe stick it in you 2 or 3 times when you didn’t happen to flake on me and send me crying into my pillow before typing out frustrated internet rants, I can spend the winter alone. Because I didn’t meet any other girls, because you kept me so consumed in your drama, because that’s what girls like you do when a guy like me is clearly addicted to you.

        Then I can REALLY get depressed because it’s cold out and no one wants to go out and I can just sit in my room and hope that maybe you text me at some point. Maybe try some online dating because despite being a badass alpha male bouncer, I’m scared to talk to the cute girls I see around me all day and mack on them instead of chasing you.”

        This is a summer you could be using to get your shit together and meet better girls. Other girls can fuck as good as she can, minus the drama. Sorry for the tough love, but you’re addicted to a shitty girl who’s going to just keep stringing you along. Seen it a dozen times and your situ is no more special a snowflake than it was for those dozen other guys.

        You’re better than that yo. If anything, flake on her. Change gyms. She will haunt you all summer because tooling you is funny to her. Like, you have to understand that. I should post the text screencaps girls send me of guys who give them ultimatums and chase them around and fall into their drama. They LAUGH at these guys yo.

        Don’t be those guys. Cut yourself off the drug, cold turkey, you can’t handle “doses”. Like, you are too invested and not strong enough (no offense) to handle doses of her. And you don’t have enough else going on to handle doses of her because your brain doesn’t WANT to move on.

        You have one-itis and it’s gonna’ waste your summer if you keep in contact with her. Cold-turkey that shit!

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 4:40 pm thrust

        my value is more to her than i lead on here. i post here when the bad shit starts to fester – i havent told you all the “good” that comes with her being madly attracted to me. i understand what youre saying and accept it – totally true.

        ill meet her in a bar tmrw and say that given that i was supposed to leave in june, and now thats delayed, we’re left in a situation where we’re too attracted to eachother to let go.

        my offer is: fuck buddy, no more than twice a week, no sleepovers (she always sleeps over) and she cant fuck any other guys because 1. i dont wear a condom and 2. if you fuck other guys i wont fuck you. take it or leave it.

        if she says i cant fuck other girls, ill let her know that if the sex is great and you dont give me any unnesessary drama, then it shouldnt be a problem.

        look, my inner game is weak with fresh exs. i can be hank moody when my mood fits, and be a chill guy if given the right vibes..

        its a small downtown club scene. the club im with is the biggest and the most popular. shit gets around and i dont think i could handle it all summer.

        im doing this to end the high school chase-me-if-you-can! games.

        ya really, again i understand where youre coming from – my situation is not as bad. it might “feel it” due to my inner frame atm.

        she can take my offer, or leave it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 4:49 pm Zombie Shane

        > “my offer is: fuck buddy… if you fuck other guys i wont fuck you. take it or leave it. if she says i cant fuck other girls, ill let her know that if the sex is great and you dont give me any unnesessary drama, then it shouldnt be a problem.”

        Here’s a novel idea – why don’t you get serious and put a bun in her oven?

        Why exactly do you think God gave you a penis and her a birth canal?

        What you’re describing – she loyal to you, you unloyal to her, she gets ZERO children out of the deal – is simply nuts.

        I mean, seriously, are you mental patient or something?

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:05 pm Anonymous

        “look, I don’t have any other options…so uhhh would you take pity on me, and out of pity let me touch your vagina once in a while? sure, sure, lead me on a bunch and play some headgames and send screencaps of our conversations to your other guy friends to lol at me behind my back, that’s fine, I’m pretty desperate here.”

        I have other options. lol c’mon Ya – not every asshole on here is a beta plum. I’ve fucked an 18yr old too early post break-up that lead me back to the ex. I took a 24yo nurse out couple weeks back that I could have banged, but didn’t stfu about herself so I decided not to.

        Also have my hair stylist, a 39 yr greek milf with class (shockingly) that I pulled the trigger on too early post break-up – she told the other girls that she didnt want to be my ‘rebound girl.’ I go every Saturday – next time I’ll probably end up pulling the trigger again, probably a month after I asked her the first time. Every girl loves me in there – I’m Hank Moody in there, it’s excellent vibes, I love it.

        While your comment has merit, it is not 100% white washed with my DNA all over it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:06 pm thrust

        ..that was me

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:51 pm YaReally

        @thrust
        Aaaand here comes the bitch-slap, sorry in advance but I’m sure you can handle it.

        “I have other options. lol c’mon Ya – not every asshole on here is a beta plum.”

        Mentally, you DON’T have options. I can go out and stick my dick in a 3/10 warpig tonight, but if she isn’t equally as hot, fun amazing, sexy etc. as the girl who can get me to freak out just appearing at my gym at the same time as me, I don’t ACTUALLY have options.

        “i havent told you all the “good” that comes with her being madly attracted to me.”

        Let’s review:

        “needless to say i got sucked back into it when i was drinking at the same bar she was.. and bam, 3 weeks later i explode again in a post-sex drunken take on her hanging with a skid row dealer – she made the excuse saying she was only there to pick up her gf – oh, and have the dealer play a song for her on his guitar. ”

        – sucks you into her drama
        – follows you around to suck you into her drama (showing up at your gym/bars)
        – has you so emotionally wound-up and invested in her that you explode on her
        – hangs with skid row dealers who play songs for her on their guitar

        And:

        “Then she brings up guyfriends etc – throughout our entire relationship, I know she lived a double life. I only saw one side of her – her side with me – not the crazy wild party slut coke whore that she doesn’t display to me.”

        – brings up other guys to make you jealous and trigger your emotional rages, on purpose, she knows exactly what it does to you and gets off on it
        – is a wild party slut coke whore

        And:

        “her “I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to end that to you. I was overlooking our messages and didnt switch convos..””

        – there’s that thing where she tries to make you jealous because it’s entertaining to her

        Also you’re fucking her without a condom. That seems wise lol

        And how have you handled it so far:

        ” i gave her options a few weeks ago:

        either 1. we try this out again on better terms/boundaries, 2. i fuck you and you dont ask me about my life and i dont give a shit about yours 3. no contact

        she txted me maybe a day or 2 after that – i said sorry not gonna chill, have you made your mind up yet..”

        So you made an ultimatum and then “got sucked back into it” and showed her that your word doesn’t mean shit and you say things and don’t actually follow thru with them (just like you said to us “cold turkey. my own fault.” and “this is day 1 i guess. and she will text me. all i have to do is ignore it.”, which you didn’t do).

        You didn’t “get sucked back into it”. You’re not some helpless leaf blowing in the wind. You’re a man who’s made some bad decision and will continue to make them until you accept that you have a problem. You actively chose to let yourself get consumed by her drama. Because your judgement is compromised. Because you are too emotionally invested in her (aka addicted) to be able to handle doses of her.

        You may also be addicted to drama and get off on it. Which is fine, but if that’s the case, you should know that about yourself so you can make sure it doesn’t fuck you over.

        But you can’t see this and will probably just think I’m an asshole who doesn’t “get it”, just like all the other guys who’ve been thru your exact same situation and thinks no one “gets it”. “it’s different”. It’s not, the only thing that’s different is that it’s personally relevant to you.

        You are an alcoholic hanging out at a bar or a fat chick hanging out in a bakery. No one’s saying you suck, but you are not mentally tough enough to sit beside that metaphorical glass of Jack Daniel’s and not take a sip right now.

        That’s why you haven’t just deleted or blocked her number like we’ve told you to. You can’t because you’re not making rational decisions. Because you have one-itis and it’s fucking with your head, and you don’t have enough quality options to avoid getting sucked into her shit.

        “my offer is: fuck buddy, no more than twice a week, no sleepovers (she always sleeps over) and she cant fuck any other guys because 1. i dont wear a condom and 2. if you fuck other guys i wont fuck you. take it or leave it.”

        Logically offering an ultimatum will totally work. We all know women stick to their word and make decisions and agreements based in logic. A girl who enjoys feeding you drama (see all the stuff I quoted up above) will definitely not say one thing and do the complete opposite. She certainly wouldn’t want to piss you off, that’s why she doesn’t bring up other guys around you…OH NO WAIT. lol

        I’m sure she’ll tell you exactly what you want to hear. And then do whatever she wants anyway.

        Also wrap your tool dumbass. What are you even thinking?? You’re a BOUNCER…you literally see girls fucking random guys every night you work, and you’re fucking a “wild party slut coke whore” who hangs out with skid row junkies without a condom? Jesus.

        “if she says i cant fuck other girls, ill let her know that if the sex is great and you dont give me any unnesessary drama, then it shouldnt be a problem.”

        Yes, she certainly doesn’t seem the type to give you unneccessary drama. Sorry, I meant to text that to someone else “ooops!!!” giggle giggle.

        But hey, maybe she’ll change. I mean, you’ve given her incentive to change right? You’ve rewarded her with more attention and you chasing her and telling her you’re too attracted to her to let her go. So of COURSE she won’t keep doing what she’s doing even though it’s completely working to keep your attention. I mean, every time you punch me, if I give you $1,000, you’re going to decide to stop punching me right?

        “look, my inner game is weak with fresh exs.”

        ya, clearly, so DON’T hang out with them. Don’t try to make them fuckbuddies. My inner game is weak at eating donuts, so I don’t go to a bakery and order a dozen donuts and sit them beside my computer while I’m typing this. Fuckin guy lol

        See your problem is that you KNOW you’re fucking up, because you keep telling everyone you’re fucking up, but you don’t actually wanna FIX anything. You don’t want to actually CHANGE. You just want to dissolve responsibility from yourself by blaming your “inner game” and “getting sucked into it”. Nothing is your fault so it’s okay! Hand me those donuts someone brought to the office, it’s not MY fault if they go in my mouth because I didn’t bring them to the office nom nom nom!!

        “its a small downtown club scene. the club im with is the biggest and the most popular. shit gets around and i dont think i could handle it all summer. ”

        Time to get out of the scene. Do day game. Delete her number. Avoid her when she wants to talk to you. Go to the gym at a different time.

        You’re just saying “look man, you don’t understand, all my friends do heroin so I HAVE to take another hit”. No, you don’t, you’re just comfortable and making excuses not to break away from bad habits.

        “im doing this to end the high school chase-me-if-you-can! games.”

        No, you’re doing it to prolong it because your deep down scarcity mentality (because you don’t have any other quality options available right now) is secretly hoping that she’ll say “ok, I won’t fuck any other guys and I’ll suck your dick 10x a day and not bring you any drama even though there’s nothing in my history to suggest that I would ever actually stick to any of this lol”.

        If you were ACTUALLY trying to end it, her number would be deleted right now and you would be going to the gym at a different time and you would be avoiding the clubs she’s in for the summer even if that’s inconvenient for you.

        Go fuck ten other women of equal or higher quality.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 6:31 pm walawala

        @thrust….I’m with YaReally on this. There really isn’t much to discuss. I’ve found ultimatums don’t work. I reached out to mine…it was a soft outreach after a 4 month absence. She’s just pissed off and her ego is bruised so she was sweet, then suddenly used this to ignore me again.

        It never ends with these types.

        It’s always better to invest in something new rather than try to draw water from a dry well.

        Now I’m gaming lots of new girls. Some come out, some flake, but it’s easier to start something new than to try to reverse something that is sadly unfixable.

        I’m having a blast now….somehow the fog is slowly lifting for me and it will for you if you stop picking at old wounds. I can’t emphasize this enough. A little self-discipline.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 7:54 pm walawala

        @YaReally serious question for you now. I met 28 year old at some party Friday. She later joined a Facebook group, I added her as a Friend and realized it was this same girl I had been gaming.

        I text-gamed her. Then proposed drinks. She was keen. I proposed a time she was keen counter-proposed an earlier time which I couldn’t make.

        I suggested two new times and a cool location.

        She asked about the location. I told her. She gave me her number, I pinged her back a note offering mine. This was all regular 15-20 minutes responses. All tight game.

        Then…radio silence. She didn’t confirm either of the proposed times or offer another. I pinged her again saying “off on a biz trip”….radio silence.

        So my question is how ,…if at all do I re-open this? Or do I leave it and consider it a now cold lead?

        I may run into her again at the bar or party next time.

        I have noticed that at least in this city…girls in their 20’s flake…often for no real reason. They “forget” or suddenly change their minds and I’ve found that if I reopen after a period of time and don’t mention the previous offer…it can revive this.

        Any thoughts?

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:04 pm YaReally

        @walawala
        “I may run into her again at the bar or party next time.”

        Leave it, then. You’ll be able to convey better value in person and can tease her for not responding to your txt which’ll make her make sure not to ignore it next time.

        Otherwise you’re trying to build your value uphill on a battlefield where she’s already put you at a disadvantage.

        If there was no way you were going to run into her at a bar or party somewhere in the next couple months, I would say push it but you don’t have to.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:14 pm walawala

        @YaReally thanks. good feedback.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:22 pm walawala

        @YaReally one more question….why would it be if my game was tight that she wouldn’t respond?

        Her friend introduced me to her at a party. Would her friend have sabotaged this? I gamed the friend at one time and we have a great rapport. Would this have spooked my target? Am I reading way too much into this?

        A few weeks ago I had a similar flake from a girl I met on Tinder. I just re-opened, and she actually invited me out when I teased her about her flake.

        I’d like to hear more insights into the mentality of flaking when they initially seemed keen and I didn’t make any mistakes.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 6:44 am Zombie Shane

        walawala – DAY GAME.

        Get the fuck off these ridiculous electronic devices and meet these chicks IN THE FLESH.

        Make it real.

        Walk away from that whole electronic anti-human anti-world anti-life.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:47 am Hero

        @YaReally
        Thank you for “tough love” comment. I really needed that today. I’m in process on extracting myself from a shitty relationship.

        I’m continually impressed with the contributions you make. Thanks for helping all the rest of us work our way through it.

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  7. on May 17, 2014 at 11:57 am Mike

    “Like the Federal reserve and our money supply, the more appeasement you give out, the lower your value. You’ve got to defund the Hypergamy Reserve one monetary-asshole-unit at a time.”

    It’s kind of weird how men simply not wanting to be taken advantage of somehow equates to ‘being an asshole’.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm gunslingergregi

      I think he meant the buthexing asshole type why it was so funny lol

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 1:52 pm Mike

        That’s how conditioned we are and how gynocentric the society is, that men not giving women everything they irrationally demand = assholes

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm walawala

      @Mike “It’s kind of weird how men simply not wanting to be taken advantage of somehow equates to ‘being an asshole’.

      This is at the heart of game. This “balance” between jerk and asshole.

      Setting boundaries is hard when one’s own self-esteem and inner game has holes in it.

      Intellectually yes, we know appeasement doesn’t work. But the sting of being called “asshole” of being shamed and guilted takes its toll results in being alone or the feeling of loss.

      The need to develop an “abundance mentality” requires lots of introspection and work.

      Keeping busy at projects and work one truly finds rewarding and purposeful is crucial.

      Often things we see are not always what they seem. That happy couple of the hot girl and herb guy sometimes prompts me to question: What am I doing wrong????

      The real question is to take stock of “What am I doing right?” and how to project that into positive value for the women I want in my life.

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 9:05 pm Woodshed_rabbit

        Keeping busy at projects and work one truly finds rewarding and purposeful is crucial.

        Bingo.

        For this character: sharpening the axe, with a file and brush.

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  8. on May 17, 2014 at 12:17 pm gunslingergregi

    on the fat chick thing so every chick that goes to jail comes out fat
    I guess it really is the bread and pasta that fuck you up cause that is all they eat in there
    my bitch said her ass is starting to get huge
    and fucking shit it is expensive to take a call from jail
    i’m thinking this is why poor peeps actually let out earlier
    cause If you got loot they making money on whats put on your books and the phone calls so they got every incentive in the world to keep you there
    if ya go jail don’t spend a fucking dime you prob be out in no time

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 12:53 pm OralCummings

      Ok,so now your bitch is in jail…?

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:53 pm gunslingergregi

        she been in since the 6th

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  9. on May 17, 2014 at 12:21 pm gunslingergregi

    like goodfellas when they were making all those payouts to the jail guards think they would of ever wanted them to actually leave and stop the gravy train fuck no

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  10. on May 17, 2014 at 12:23 pm Bango Tango

    “to quell their fears that their men might trade up”.

    Or to quell their fears that they might have lost the ability to trade up if they want because their loser beta is no longer giving the validation.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 12:32 pm Bango Tango

      Why women love, love, love, platonic beta orbiters.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 11:09 pm walawala

        @Bango Tango & @ Mike…

        This was posted on The Rawness–a great blog—and I commented on it there. It looks at this idea of “Rinsers”—women who lead guys on to enable their lavish lifestyles.

        I made the point that a more common scenario is how women create beta orbiters…while money may not be the motivation of all women, the attention and supplication that come with this are the same. I cringed several times realizing that while I never gave money to women, I did fall into the trap of being guilted/manipulated into giving attention, apologizing, supplicating etc. Since discovering game I’ve mostly abandoned these behaviours but have at times caved in or been fooled into believing a woman’s sob story and lies only to be disappointed later on.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 3:19 am haunted trilobite

        http://www.theonion.com/articles/but-if-we-started-dating-it-would-ruin-our-friends,11473/

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  11. on May 17, 2014 at 12:24 pm Greg Eliot

    And then there’s the one about the guy whose wife ran off with a tractor saleman… she left her husband a John Deere letter.

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  12. on May 17, 2014 at 12:31 pm gunslingergregi

    chick said she ran out of wall writing my name i’d like to see a pic of that

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 2:11 pm jack

      Great reply: Wait ’til you’re 40. You’ll have all the Wall you need.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:51 pm gunslingergregi

        ohshit lol

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  13. on May 17, 2014 at 12:31 pm little spoon

    The lawnmower thing is passive aggression, which is different from shit tests. Shit tests are a form of direct aggression. I recommend smacking down passive aggression with more cruelty than shit tests, which can be dealt with through humor and lightheartedness.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 8:49 pm Zombie Shane

      And nit-picking is the quintessence of passive-aggressive-ness.

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  14. on May 17, 2014 at 12:56 pm gunslingergregi

    told her have a good day she said yea uhh know your having a good day getting your dick sucked lolzlolzozlozlozlozlzolzol

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  15. on May 17, 2014 at 1:05 pm ray

    Cynthia is exactly right. Married men in the west are absolutely emasculated bc all they want is peace and quiet in the home. Their wives know this, and so make sure they don’t get that peace and quiet unless obedience to her is forthcoming. The entire nation soon reflects — and demands — this model. End of Love. End of fatherhood and masculinity.

    Game plays the same cards. Give women measures of the drama they crave — dole it out to them — Control the Frame blah blah, and everything works out great.

    It won’t, tho. Pretending to be an “alpha” will not solve your individiual and collective problems. Placating females via Game is just another version of Cynthia’s Emascuman, ubiquitous in the U.S., who will permit any degradation to himself, or to other males, as long as things Go Smooth on the Homefront.

    Placating females, arguing and debating with them, seeking consensus and agreement with them, negotiating with them, voting against their Political Bloc … all are fails. You will lose, and so will your nation. When females rebel — and yours have been for a century — you do not respond with more attempts at placation and drama, like Game. You don’t change yourself into Mr. Pseudo Alpha in order to please her libido, or expectations, or psyche, or thirst for soap-opera dramatics.

    You feed the Beest, then wonder why it gets fatter.

    [CH: ray, do you believe women should stop wearing make-up, stop dressing up, and stop trying to stay thin?]

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 8:53 pm Zombie Shane

      Is there like a second half of Ray’s comment somewhere in the LIFO stack?

      I wanted to see where he was going to go with his thesis, but then it just suddenly ended.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 2:33 am Cortesar

      An old man once told me there are only 2 ways to kill the devil in a woman (he called devil what runs today under different names, hysteria being one of them, the vulgar soul of a whore another) that is child bearing and hard work
      Only fools can reject the wisdom of ages gone by,only intellectual cripples would never ask why
      Only the blinds cannot see the writing on the wall
      There is nothing that has never been or seen,nor will ever be

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:15 am Zombie Shane

        > “child bearing and hard work”

        See the Amish threads a few pages back.

        And you guys wonder why I keep screaming about getting serious and putting some buns in your woman’s oven and sealing the deal for all eternity by entering into The Tree of Life with her.

        An idle mind is the Devil’s Playground.

        As is an idle womb, for that matter.

        I wish that Ray would come back and finish out the remainder of his thesis.

        I’m curious to see where he’s going with it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:42 pm Promethean

        A wise man told me that women have the brain of half a chicken.
        I guess it must be the evil half; which is strongly supported Exhibit A: those Rinsers in the video above.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:36 am Arbiter

      When females rebel — and yours have been for a century — you do not respond with more attempts at placation and drama, like Game.

      Red-pill teachings are now “placating women”? No.

      There is a reason feminists hate the red pill, including the game side of it. Game is about understanding what makes women tick, and refuse to play their games. Instead we play our own game. It is the opposite of “placating”.

      You are doing what can be called chessing, moving theories and principles like pieces on a board in order to win a debate. The game that sociology professors teach. It has nothing to do with observing reality: blue-pill men placating women, orbiting them at the club and in college and online, while red-pill men reject all that.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:22 am Zombie Shane

        > “at the club and in college and online”

        I don’t want to put words in Ray’s mouth, but

        A) I don’t know that you and he necessarily disagree, but also

        B) I suspect that he is talking about shit which is vastly deeper and more profound than merely “at the club and in college and online”.

        But, again, I don’t want to put words in Ray’s mouf.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 2:25 pm Director

        They should have followed up with nooses and the chopping block.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm Director

      Some valid points.

      This is why women should never have got the vote.

      Hang Pankhurst!

      I wouldn’t get in that time machine to assassinate Hitler or Stalin but an assortment of Suffragettes.

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  16. on May 17, 2014 at 1:11 pm whorefinder

    There is but one comment of the week….

    RAPE!

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 1:17 pm anonYmous

      #rapestrong

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm whorefinder

        Yes! Yes! Yes!
        —Daniel Bryanson is a fan.

        WWE rape!

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  17. on May 17, 2014 at 1:18 pm gunslingergregi

    before better not be a bitch living in my house so maybe too much dread I don’t know
    at least she knows not thinks I can get another bitch
    can I come back when I get out
    and asks permission he he he

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 3:08 pm OralCummings

      she getting some loving in the jail?? I eman from the other inmates,as womens prisons are known to be filled with hot and sexy young babes.(Hopefully theres no 350 lb ni66a guards…)

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:04 pm gunslingergregi

        she in the hole so no other peeps
        she did say her first day she was rubbing the clit a lot lol
        I guess all that time idle hands
        she also knows everyone in there pretty much
        and has fed most of em when they were hungry
        I do like real philanthropic chicks I got to say
        that feed the hungry with their own cookin not a donation
        he he he

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:06 pm gunslingergregi

        but yea if she wanted her putty licked it would not be a prob chicks always want to lick her putty
        when out of there lol
        and I mean good lookin lesbos

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 9:09 pm gunslingergregi

        kind of interesting I do fall in love with chicks who help the less fortunate makes me want to save them maybe a method to this madness

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 9:11 pm gunslingergregi

        interesting

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 9:13 pm gunslingergregi

        every time she cooked she would bring a plate to my dad too she a good chick in so many ways
        he alone at his house so yea
        she does got a good heart just been around so much shit

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 3:30 am gunslingergregi

        course she was talkin bout putting my ass to sleep and taking all my shit so evil too
        maybe that is the best ya can do here though least she cant get me for alimony child support so if she emptied my house of all sellable shit i’d still be way the fuck ahead of the game

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  18. on May 17, 2014 at 1:21 pm Lucaen

    the words a woman speaks are always secondary to her current emotional state. when you read a woman, don’t read her words, read her emotional state. when you respond to her, you are responding to her emotional state, not the literal meaning of her words.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 1:59 pm Will

      Lucaen thats a great way to put it.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:42 pm Zombie Shane

        If you’ve been going Hard Neg on her for a while, then when you sense that her emotions have gone into a pretty bad funk, you can earn Warm-N-Fuzzy brownie points by skipping through the bullshit and cutting straight to the chase.

        HER: “Blah blah blah blah wah wah wah blah blah blah…”

        YOU: “Okay, baby, I can sense that something is really bothering you…”

        Followed by

        1) “…have you been fighting with your Mom/Dad/Sister again?”

        2) “…was your boss a total bitch again today?”

        3) “…did psycho-barbie get the promotion instead of you?”

        4) “… let’s me and you go upstairs, c’mon…”

        Shit like that.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 7:37 am Reco

        This is absolutely true. I have been married for 20 years and was a pussy for most of those years. But I actually first saw this in the movie Goodfellas when he came home late wife started bitching he just grinned and walked back out the door.

        I did this and it works. Wife would even try to stop me at the driveway a few times. Then that reduced to her complaining about it. Now she says nothing. And when I return she says nothing.

        Remember when you argue or even yell at your wife. You are giving her something that emotional rush. Take that away and she has nothing left but her hamster.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 2:36 pm Badger

      That is brilliance.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 11:11 pm walawala

      @Lucaen I’ve seen this communicated several ways but not this clearly.

      That is why it is best NOT to respond to anger or passive aggressiveness. Back off until she cools down.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 3:33 am BlackPoisonSoul

        When she gets shitty: walk out the door.

        Don’t tell her anything about where you’re going or what you’re gonna do.

        Come back whenever you feel like it.

        Never refer to it.

        Result: marked behavioural improvement.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:33 am Zombie Shane

        But why you also get huge brownie points as a Master – no, make that a Herr Doktor – of Feminine Psychology, when you learn to peer deep into her soul and sense that something completely unrelated is actually torturing her.

        Bitch WANTS you to be the Master of her Soul.

        No, make that the Herr Doktor of her Soul.

        Herr Professor Doktor of the Female Soul.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 2:21 pm YaReally

      @Lucaen
      Solid. The follow-up to this is “change her mood, not her mind”. Don’t try to logically convince a woman of something, change her mood to what you want and you’ll “win”.

      Nice Guy handing her his resume and bullet points notes of why she should like him = nope. Asshole who on paper is a piece of shit and she hates him teases her and makes her laugh = she wants to fuck him.

      Girl mad at you and you try to logically convince her you’re right = nope. Girl mad at you and you lol and tease her and make her laugh = she wants to fuck you.

      Guys are taught to communicate with logic and make solid arguments and shit, but women just do that on the surface level and guys have no idea that women communicate on the emotional level first.

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  19. on May 17, 2014 at 1:57 pm Carl-Edward

    Here is a perfectly apt joke

    Question: How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a light bulb?

    Answer: None. ‘It’s all right. I’ll sit in the dark.’

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  20. on May 17, 2014 at 2:01 pm Will

    How do you know if a girl is emotional connected with you? And how do you make that happen? Rapport/comfort?

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 2:57 pm gunslingergregi

      if she goes to jail for you she is prob emotionally connected to you

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:58 pm gunslingergregi

        my wife did 3 months to be with me

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:58 pm gunslingergregi

        she still there for me

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 2:59 pm gunslingergregi

        current bitch doing her time to be with me too so I think it is a good filter

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 3:13 pm gunslingergregi

        she knows only way she leaving with me is clean so she did what she had to do

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:18 am thwack

        what color are you?

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm gunslingergregi

        does it always got to be about color thwack

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  21. on May 17, 2014 at 2:11 pm jack

    She’s right – with women, it is not the ends, but the means.

    Or more correctly, the ends ARE the means.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm cynthia

      It’s why romance novels always end with the lovers settling into a relationship – after the angst is over, it’s just not fun anymore.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 5:01 pm Zombie Shane

        > “after the angst is over, it’s just not fun anymore”

        How can the angst ever be “over” ONCE YOU START HAVING CHILDREN?!?

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 6:40 pm cynthia

        Ha, that’s a good one. Maybe kids are an endless source of angst, and that’s why so many childless women are so unbalanced. Our natural source of drama isn’t present in our lives.

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Our natural source of drama isn’t present in our lives.”

        BINGO.

        It’s also why you seek out the 50 Shades of Grey BDSM.

        You’re craving the exquisite pain of natural childbirth which is missing from your lives.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 10:23 am haunted trilobite

        Not sure if it was you who had a link to it before, but there’s a natural method of birth where a woman gets hour long orgasms

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 11:01 am Anon

        Everything a man and woman does in life is practice for raising children. Childlessness is a life of all-practice, no-performance.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 12:56 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Childlessness is a life of all-practice, no-performance.”

        Which is where I part ways with the hard core MGTOW* anti-family PUAs and their insistence on childlessness.

        Game is merely a tool.

        If Game is used to de-flower and butthexualize and de-soul the women whom you bed, then it is a tool used in service of the most base, nihilistic Evil.

        Whereas if Game is used to win the heart of a good woman, to make babies with her, and to hold the resulting family together in the face of the relentless cultural poisoning emanating from Frankfurt School Central Command, then it is a tool being used in the service of the very highest Good.

        *If you’re a family man, then, by definition, you can’t be “Going your Own Way”, simply because your family is necessarily coming along with you for the ride, wherever you may decide to take them.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm cynthia

        @Zombie Shane

        I think the appeal of 50 Shades was/is that most women haven’t had any exposure to BDSM, so it feels transgressive, which gets a girl wet. BDSM appeals in itself because it allows for submission (which we like) in a safe way (which we also like).

        Most women don’t actually have the disposition to enjoy that sort of thing in real life, but it’s all about the fantasy.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 2:28 pm Director

        White women are anxious about the children. Black women axe abow da chillens.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm Promethean

        Children could very well be the ONLY thing that enables women to over ride their innate solipsistic instincts and look beyond themselves.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:56 am thwack

        *If you’re a family man, then, by definition, you can’t be “Going your Own Way”, simply because your family is necessarily coming along with you for the ride, wherever you may decide to take them.
        —————————————————————————————-

        yeah right

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 6:50 am Zombie Shane

        thwack, by definition, chimpanzees can’t be family men.

        Because if they were family men, then they’d be human.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 7:36 am thwack

        Why dont white people refer to each other as “brother” and “sister” like black people do?

        is it because their alienation from God is reflected in their alienation from each other?

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 10:30 am Ahpla

        Ignore Zombie Shane’s talk about honor in having children. He is confused. On one hand he talks about cultural programming being a negative, and then he turns around and starts talking about how producing children is an earth-shattering good (when it was the very act of procreation that was socially programmed a long time ago, that people ought to have children).

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  22. on May 17, 2014 at 5:38 pm Director

    Robert Lindsay strikes again.
    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/why-hbd-means-more-socialism-not-less/

    It occurred to me that the US has so far failed to colonize Mars because the patrimony of American victory in ww2 was poured into funding the Black Ghetto. Fuck HBD, these things are not even human, they are leeches.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 9:00 pm Zombie Shane

      > “Fuck HBD, these things are not even human, they are leeches.”

      This is the Nimitz High School video from down in Houston, TX:

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 10:51 pm gunslingergregi

        im starting the negro defense fund though maybe its good they push back can ya imagine if they didn’t how much more insane rules they could put in schools least he didn’t punch her in face and she kept walking towards the dude for what reason

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 10:54 pm gunslingergregi

        she took his cell phone wtf should of got someone else to do it I guess
        he prob needed that shit to do a deal to make loot
        which is more important some bs class or loot

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 10:19 am Director

        Beautiful Irony here.

        Nimitz was the genius behind the defeat of the Japanese Imperial Navy at Midway. He played a weak hand with perfect timing. America wins the war and gathers together 50% of global GDP. Then proceeds to piss it away feeding Gollywogs instead of colonizing Mars.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:12 pm Zombie Shane

        > “piss it away feeding Gollywogs instead of colonizing Mars”

        As early as November 20, 2007 [fully a year before election day], candidate Barry Soetoro Dunham was already bragging about how he was going to slash NASA’s budget:

        Obama: cut Constellation to pay for education
        November 20, 2007
        http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/11/20/obama-cut-constellation-to-pay-for-education/

        Fast forward six and a half years, and now we have no lift vehicle whatsoever:

        Russia to evict NASA from the International Space Station in 2020
        May 13, 2014
        http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-to-evict-nasa-from-the-international-space-station-2020

        It is of FOUNDATIONAL IMPORTANCE to The Frankfurt School to break the spiritual backbone of the White Race by pissing on, shitting on, pouring gasoline upon, and immolating every last achievement which the White Race ever made.

        The Frankfurt School is not doing this as fiscal warfare: This is PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE, plain and simple.

        It is consciously and deliberately intended to break the White Man’s Will to Fight by destroying every single aspect of his culture which he ever would have been moved to fight for in the first place.

        And then to use the gubmint indoctrination centers to conveniently fail to teach his White children that the achievements ever existed in the first place, so that those children will grow up never realizing that there was once something worth fighting for.

        ALL. BY. DESIGN.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:13 pm OralCummings

        Fine and good black youth!!!

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 10:21 pm Lucius Somesuch

      I don’t know if this Lindsay was being serious or just adopting a pose (the whine of the full-on masochistic altruist), but from his comments thread he must be at least partly serious.

      It’s a foolish argument. I’m no Ayn Randian, but one of the most suffocating intellectual errors of the Modern Age– and it goes back now for a very long time, well before Cultural Marxism– is this notion somehow that “goodness of heart” is the only self-sufficient virtue; that spiritual values like intelligence, love of Beauty, curiosity, community (national, ethnic, racial), the sense of the sublime, are at best morally indifferent and at worst the attributes of some kind of wicked Dorian Gray/Nazi type. He implies it’s all unfair, somehow, to be born predisposed to embark upon the command of self and nature, to seek understanding, and to resent (as one rightly should) impediments to the happiness of self and loved ones– as is the blind envy of the savage.

      It’s all as if to say: “Get your arrogant white ass back down from that mountaintop, listening to that hopped-up Beethoven bunk, and get this poor black man some grape drank and some white pussy. Don’t you see he has NEEDS you need to attend to?!”

      Thus, it’s no surprise, albeit a great unpleasantness, to see some of his commenters delving into the Bullworth solution. As if the Chinese, poised to rule the world, would fuck away a 4,000 year patrimony just to “even out” with godforsaken Africa! Even the fallen heirs of the Incas aren’t signing up for that snakeoil–produced perhaps by the ethno-megalomania of some group or other which, if they were as awesome as they like to suppose, would perhaps own a history that looks more like that of the Chinese than of a peripatetic debate club for snarky Gypsies.

      And this ludicrous fallacy, that good genes mean that achievement then falls out of thin air! Good God, how did the good genes get there in the first place, pray tell? And then, I suppose, St. Peter’s, St. Paul’s, the Kremlin reared their domes without so much as a bead of sweat broken on the brow of the shameless, overendowed, gotmedat White Man. “Shee-ut! Youz chea-ed, cracka!”

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 10:53 pm Anon

        I’ll help you here. I know Lindsay’s writing. He is a sick piece of shit.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:45 am Director

        It’s Ebonologic.

        A broadly homogenous population is a necessary condition for Social Democracy: see Sweden 1950-2000

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:48 am Arbiter

      That Robert Lindsay post has to be one of the most contrived arguments I have read.

      “Actually, my opinion is that HBD increases the argument for socialism and decreases the argument for capitalism. If all races were equal, then that would increase the argument for capitalism and decrease the argument for socialism.
      ……
      “Since the excess wealth and possessions of the achievers are utterly unearned, they do not deserve all their groovy stuff. We need to take some of their undeserved wealth away from them and give to the others who lagged behind via no fault of their own.

      “Are you following? Undeserved achievements and undeserved failures means more socialism, not less.”

      Uh, no. That’s Christian/socialist thinking: that being “fair” and “compassionate”, everyone taking care of and loving everyone else in some globalist, universal brotherhood, is the highest goal.

      The truth about Human Biological Diversity is instead an argument for our nationalism. Throw out those who have an IQ average of 70 in their undiluted stage, since no amount of welfare and propaganda is ever going to make them the same as the inventors of electricity and penicilline. You can’t justify letting them take up land and other resources that could go to increasing the number of better people, people who will help move the world forward by producing among them in each generation the small number of high-IQ geniuses who discover and invent.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:14 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        I love that somehow he is the arbiter of what is earned and what’s undeserved. The hilarity is that he assumes that equal outcomes are good and consequently any system of economics or governance is good only insofar as it leads society to equal outcomes. I didn’t even know these retarded fruitcakes are still taken seriously.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 5:22 am thwack

      lindsey is of questionable racial origin himself.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:16 pm OralCummings

        He soun’ like a bruvva

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  23. on May 17, 2014 at 5:55 pm Hugh Miron

    Instead of cutting his own grass this man comes on an internet forum and brags how alpha he is in making a woman do it

    No wonder all you beta phaggots get cheated on

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 7:17 pm B

      that’s what i got from it. laziness in dudes is unattractive, and doing masculine chores like mowing the lawn is always a good idea – as long as you do it in an alpha frame, like a Man taking care of his business with no nonsense.

      depends on how she framed it though. you don’t want to come across as just a source of labor for her.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 11:33 am jrkl

        uh….maybe you don’t read too good.

        He wrote he had a long list of priorities he was working on that were ahead of the sudden need to mow the lawn.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 8:36 pm gunslingergregi

      woman were meant to do all that bullshit for a man men are there to fight to the death

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      • on May 17, 2014 at 8:37 pm gunslingergregi

        and protect his little worker bee duh

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 4:50 am Arbiter

        woman were meant to do all that bullshit for a man men are there to fight to the death

        The Negro-macho chestbeating is strong in this one. There is always an excuse for being lazy. “I saving maself fo’ fighting!”

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:35 pm gunslingergregi

        actually the negro drug dealers work all the time
        not really a negro philosophy
        it is my philosophy
        as far as I know im one of only ones that has it

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm gunslingergregi

        I expect a lot out of my woman cause they can do a lot
        I try to be easier on them then a boss at work would
        its hard sometimes to fire em though

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  24. on May 17, 2014 at 5:59 pm gunslingergregi

    dam was talking bout taking my chick to indo a tear came out the pregnant chicks eye and rolled down not the fake shit baby

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 6:02 pm gunslingergregi

      think I just blew her mind with my understanding of the whole situation
      course maybe she judas ready to bring crab back into bucket prob shouldn’t of said shit grr need to talkthat shit on here not in real life keep what I know under my hat and shit

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  25. on May 17, 2014 at 6:00 pm Drawner

    “This is because women, unlike men, have shallow but wide and hungry egos that need constant validation.”

    This is not correct. Just browse this blog’s comment section for evidence, and it reveals guys constantly seeking ego gratification through “alpha” behavior.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 6:04 pm Director

      The gratification is either getting laid, or the knowledge that it’s not good to try “too hard” to please ungrateful bitches. Indeed it’s better to ignore the demands and impulse to please others.

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 7:37 pm gunslingergregi

      hell fuck yea

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 4:18 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      If we cared for validation that much, we’d take favourable pictures in the mirror with low cut tops and put them on Facebook in order to get likes and comments from men we not only never heard of, but whom we will never know. The reality is that anybody who cares about status in online comment sections is an idiot of the same kind with the aforementioned women. I doubt most people here care about the opinions of other commentators about them. I know I don’t.

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  26. on May 17, 2014 at 6:49 pm Will

    You know how beauty is in fact quantifiable. (I.e. Beauty mask)….

    Well then are blonde hair blue eyed girls technically more sought after by men because they’re less dominant phenotypic features?

    I have such a horrible sweet spot for blondes and I’m pretty sure everyone does?

    Then you could say that about girls favoring dark features if the first holds true

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:55 am Arbiter

      Fair hair, fair skin and clear eyes show health. Hair and skin darken and eyes become bloodshot through disease. Skin also darkens with age. Fair hair also has more lustre, no contest whatsoever, and lustre is a sign of health, as hair becomes brittle and broken by disease and old age.

      Hence the reason everybody hates Negro hair, including Negroes themselves who use whigs or daily chemicals. (Ironically, those chemicals ruin the hair in the long run, and so they need to wear whigs. But by then they probably hope to have caught a man already.)

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:27 am thwack

        white people are derivatives; the paper money of humanity.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 6:08 pm Director

        More like the Gold Standard

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 6:56 pm Anonymous

        It has been proven, as Darwin suggested, that blacks are not even human. I personally think they are evil demons.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 9:45 pm gaoxiaen

        Not in Papua New guinea.

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  27. on May 17, 2014 at 8:57 pm reco

    @HABD wow brother you really gave me a lot to think about. I can see what you said about the battle playing out in her hamster. Lol I did send mixed signals. Excellent analysis and as usual I have a few more questions.
    First you are saying that picking her up for a date was part of what caused the shit testing and that got her thinking incongruence. I get that. Are you telling me that you do not pick women up for a date? Or not at first? And that this brings down your alpha status?

    I understand that I may have to wait her out. I am seeing that this may take a long time. But I am concerned that if this cat and mouse game goes on too long with multiple flakes it puts me into a lower status position and makes getting to the bang less likely. Is this the case? Or does this just become a longer and longer game?

    So my prediction is she is going to shit test me hard when I tell her to meet me out. Instead of complying like she is indicating she will do. But I am going to fight it out. Lol So here is what I am going to do. She sent me a good morning text this morning which I did not reply to. Rude like you said, but evidently manners has no place in this game.lol Anyway I am going to text her tomorrow tell her where to meet me on Monday and what time, a restaurant in a nice plaza with lots of stuff going on have some dinner and wine. Then we can walk around and then casually walk over to my hotel. Get another glass of wine do a lot of teasing and then move her up to my room.

    My plan is if she resists and tells me she has to stay close to home. I will immediately back out and say. Never mind I will make other plans. No arguing, no back and forth just go dark. I have a really busy week so my only opportunity to meet her will be Monday. What do you think?

    And by the way on the ex watching her kid. You are absolutely right. In fact I instinctively knew this at the time and did not call her out on this. Should I have called her on her shit? She had even told me early on that her ex was a great dad to her kid.

    So this one is no amateur either. lol

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 10:57 am YaReally

      got a big reply in mod, watch for it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 7:11 pm Reco

        I got two more texts this afternoon from her. Just her saying a beautiful day and then asking me when we are getting together this week. I have not responded to any of hem yet. But since Monday is my only day i can meet. I feel I should send her the date details soon.

        I think I am going to just pick her up since I am older and I have already set the precedent.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:02 pm YaReally

        @reco
        Just send her “Monday, 8pm” and go radio silent till you see my reply in mod. Then she knows to reserve a babysitter for that time so she can get things rolling on her end.

        Don’t respond to ANYTHING she sends after that about if you’re picking her up or a better time/day to meet or anything, till you read my reply which has gameplan in it for ya.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:05 pm reco

        Cool got it.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:48 pm having a bad day

        @reco

        YaReally will probably cover this in his reply, but it looks like it’s stuck in the stack…

        girls have a subconscious program running all the time…’what can i get from guys without giving up sex?…’ it’s part of their ‘shit testing’ algorithm…

        they test all guys they interact with all the time…lol…in your case with 33yoprude, her hamster is seeing…’hey, he texted me back (without me offering sex)… so let’s see if i can get him to text me more (without offering sex)…” (more time/attention/investment…)…’hey, that worked…so let’s see if he’ll pick me up (invest 2 hours of his time)(without offering sex)…’hey, that worked…so let’s see if he’ll pay for dinner (without offering sex)…’hey, that worked…so let’s see if he’ll give me a second date (without offering sex)…etc…

        the hotter the girl, the more she can get without putting out, bc guys are thinking they’re gonna hit the jackpot at the end of the ‘rainbow’ once they invest ‘enough’…

        it’s a tech called “slicing the salami”…and soon enough she’ll have sliced off yours…(i’d lol here, but it happens too much to every guy here to be funny…)

        your best bet is to ‘fit her into your schedule”…and go silent (except for time and place…) until she meets you out…no more ‘free’ attention…lol…

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:59 pm having a bad day

        @reco

        lol…looks like YaReally beat me to it…dude, we’re just trying to save you from yourself…lol…

        i don’t think that at this point i should have to add “more concessions (without sex) = more beta”…but you never know…lol…

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 10:37 am reco

        Hey Yareally. Still not seeing the big reply. I guess it is still stuck. Either I am going to have to cancel. Or go with my own amatuer plan. Running out of time until we are supposed to get together.

        Maybe could you summarize it a little?

        Thanks for your help.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:29 am having a bad day

        @reco

        i don’t know what YaReally’s game plan is, but here’s a short time ‘cover’ play…lol…

        if you’ve already sent the ‘Monday, 8pm…’ text, then wait (with NO contact until 7:30) then send her “having fun at — come on out’…then no contact/response to WHATEVER she sends…(bc you’re too busy having fun with those 3 swimsuit models you met at the bar when you walked in…lol…got it?…lol…)

        she’ll either show or she won’t…if she doesn’t show, go dark til next week. (or YaReally’s game plan pops out of the stack…lol)

        if you haven’t sent that text yet, either send it now or don’t send it at all…then tonight it’s still ‘having fun at —come on out’ at 7:30…she’ll be less likely to show in this case but if she’s really into you she’ll make it happen…lol…probably better to send it now, so she has time to arrange a sitter…

        if like you said she has a good support system for the kid, she should be able to make it. if she doesn’t make it, game other girls at the bar, but don’t respond til you see YaReally’s reply, cuz it should have your game plan laid out…lol…

        right now you’re kind of in defense mode trying to get back ground you lost in your semi ‘boyfriendy’ texting…might have to lose a battle to gain strategic positioning in the war…lol…

        also, you could just wind up her hamster to maximum by just sending her the ‘Monday 8pm’ text then just go dark til next week (cause you’re busy with work…lol…) that might be the overall best strategy for you at this point. and it def won’t hurt you (unless you didn’t get completely ‘relaxed’ this weekend with the wife…lol…)

        good luck!

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:53 am Reco

        @HABD thanks brother. That seems kind of extreme. Lol but I see where you are coming from and I will plan on doing this until I see yareally’s game plan.

        I don’t mind telling you that this kind of tactic triggers my beta conditioning big time. But I know that part of this process is to rinse that shit out of my veins for good. So I will lean Into the fear. Gulp.

        On another note no word from my 40yonurse so I am not initiating with her. No time to see her this week anyway. I will reconnect next week.

        Also may have a lead on a 25YOredhead solid 7 from a recent meet. Need to talk about her when we get a chance. She has an ass you could serve a beer on. Lol

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 12:38 pm YaReally

        @reco
        Mods apparently hate me this weekend lol

        Tell her where to meet you. If she sends you anything that isn’t emphatic agreement (she’ll try to get you to pick her up), send these specific words: “it’s ok we can meet up another time when you can get to the plaza area” then radio silence. Don’t mention making other plans or she def won’t come out, but this specific txt might get her to come out. She’ll probably throw a little fit. Ignore it. Around 8 she’ll probably txt “ok fine where do I come to” or she won’t txt anything it’s a coin toss.

        If she agrees to meet don’t make a big deal. Just tell her where and when and bang her as planned. If she won’t come to you, radio silence for 2 days.

        This is the optimal play for getting the lay tonight with her personality type. My post in mod will explain why

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm reco

      OK I sent the text telling her to come out. A little while later this is her reply:

      “Try my best got into a little accident this morning”

      So it is not an emphatic agreement, but it is somewhat of an agreement…and of course the accident is a play for me picking her up to make me her white knight. So should I send the next text. About its ok some other time? Or should I just wait?

      Also I must say you guys called it again. Damn some day I am going to believe. lol I am amazed.

      By the way I was gaming the cute front desk girl a little. She is about 30YO give her a 6. She is getting used to seeing me at this hotel, and is throwing very good IOI’s I even thought of inviting her out to the bar. But I did not want to muddy the waters. lol But I will save her for later maybe.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 2:10 pm reco

        Haha she sent me another text.

        “Some asshole smashed into me this morning. I’m fine. Just pissed”

        Still asking for the white knight lol

        I am holding tight.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:25 pm having a bad day

        @reco

        if 33yoprude does show up (and letting her work it out for herself = well played…she could get a ride from her friend…lol…), she should find you at the bar with the front desk girl…lol…competition anxiety has to come from somewhere…and go for the threesome!…lol…

        good luck!

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:44 pm JCclimber

        A real car accident is real. You can even use it to give her hamster fuel, that she DESERVES to go out and gets a free slut pass because of the trauma. No need to mention it, but keep it in mind….

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm YaReally

        @reco
        probably too late, but tell her “ok we can meet up on another night when things aren’t so hectic for you”, then radio silence that night until she agrees to meet up, or if she doesn’t then TOTAL radio silence for 2 days (time to dole out some punishment), then it’s time to bring in “flirt but don’t offer to meet up” mode.

        She’s forcing you to act a little nastier. This could get messy lol

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 8:37 pm reco

        Got a new FR in the most recent post.

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  28. on May 17, 2014 at 10:40 pm gunslingergregi

    don’t text like this
    dude have girl call
    dude will you tell bla she needs to call me or she is going so be pissed
    dude if she wants to come home she better call
    dude have chick call me or there is going to be problems
    dude that tap her last chance do not call me or come to the house she can stay with u I am done home bye

    I don’t keep my phone on ringer or buzz I just look at it when I feel like it but yea
    she was doin laundry pregger chick but
    yea lol
    dude told her when she went back why don’t you go up to your dude with the magic dick all the girls run up there for
    i’m fuckin famous

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 10:44 pm gunslingergregi

      im almost the caricature gbfm
      he he he

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 11:01 pm gunslingergregi

      oh yea and then she did
      I don’t allow the bitch to stay over though

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  29. on May 17, 2014 at 11:16 pm gunslingergregi

    another dude came to my door two days ago talkin bout Is my bitch here
    I was like she was
    i tried to call her for him no answer but yea I guess dudes commiseratin now I got no chick at home
    smell that its fear in the air
    one dude lost one but they aint got to worry I don’t want to keep none their bitches

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    • on May 17, 2014 at 11:39 pm Anonymous

      award for best English goes to.. …gunslingergregi

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 4:57 am Arbiter

        The end result of all that funding for public schools in inner-city Washington.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm Zombie Shane

        > “gunslingergregi”

        For the longest time, I imagined ggi to be some Russian special forces dude who spoke broken Engrish.

        But now I’m starting to wonder whether he’s just a chimpanzee named “Gregory Ifume” from Tanzania.

        Or some shit like that.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:22 pm gunslingergregi

        I went to catholic school most of my school life
        hud housing from Washington people in charge may have played a part in my formation though

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:23 pm gunslingergregi

        yea that’s right private school taught lolzlolzozlozlololzzz

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm gunslingergregi

        hud housing and the divorce laws worked I never took the road to college then ceo I was supposed to take
        looking around though I think it worked out better that way for me

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  30. on May 17, 2014 at 11:41 pm ME

    and award for best English goes to… gunslingergregi

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 12:02 am gunslingergregi

      two awards you betcha
      always an exciting time when the bitch leaves and ho’s want to fill the vacuum

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  33. on May 18, 2014 at 1:10 am Will

    This could just be me and let me know if it is.

    For me and the good majority of my friends I find that we end up chasing girls. Even the alphas don’t have girls chasing them so much. I don’t get this it seems more naturally that a guy has the girl chasing him but I rarely see high smv girls chasing.

    Do you just wait in this limbo until a girl chases you? It just seems rather bizarre how I haven’t seen very many guys get chased by a girl ever really. And the good 20+ friends are somewhat high smv guys

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 2:04 am gunslingergregi

      I guess they In fact are not high smv guys

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 2:12 am gunslingergregi

      here is what ya do get with a bitch get to the point of fucking but don’t fuck her
      she will chase you the rest of her life

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm Arbiter

        Your blabberings are starting to get annoying, boy.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:38 pm Tilikum

        you have got to be kidding.or hit your head. or you need your pills.

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 5:39 pm Tilikum

        gregi that was for underbiter btw.

        omega tingles arent just for neckbeards ya know!

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:14 pm gunslingergregi

        yea I been chased ever since gradeschool and this chick used to run up and sit on my lap

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:20 pm gunslingergregi

        told her to get off moved and what ya think happened then he he he

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:47 pm gunslingergregi

        sometimes good to chase I guess like the 700 texts I sent my chick to let her know she was luzzed but after two days radio silence let her do it

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:52 pm gunslingergregi

        but yea 47 calls from wife yesterday still getting chased

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 8:54 pm gunslingergregi

        wonder how my chick felt when my wife calls every fucking day while she here
        got to be some serious whatever that acronym is for high value

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      • on May 18, 2014 at 10:11 pm gunslingergregi

        yea funny there are no arbiters in my real life
        fuck off dude quit trying to ride my cock

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 9:05 am PimpinBlueStar

      Unless there’s some sort of fame attached to the guy, yes, it is rare to see a girl full on “chasing” a guy the same way your average chode is laying it on thick to a girl at the local club…buying drinks, hotdogs on the hot pan from the immigrants outside, and by all means sweating to try to get her into the cab and into the glory hole. That’s a tough battle, right?

      Or unless the girl is a fatty and has no reserve in telling you how big her tits are and how she gives the best blowjobs, lest you juke her like Allen Iverson and run out the door (we’ve all had a few of these….AMMIRITE?!?)….

      IME…girl “chasing” is WAY more nuanced than most guys think. Any girl with high smv, BEFORE she will hook up (which is what she ultimately wants) are a few things to maintain: 1) she CAN’T look like a slut (which her girl friends, family, and gay orbiter chode boys will guilt her into…she’s being judged like a motherfucker by everyone, especially if she’s a hot piece of ass**) and 2) the guy she will potentially hook up with understands all of this, is cool with it, and willing work through her “filters” so that they are able to fuck and also she can maintain her good reputation with the people who would judge her like that.

      So….back to “chasing.” Because of all of this above, her chasing boils down to doing things like asking the guy questions, laughing a lot at what he says, playfully making fun of his shirt/hair/watch/etc…it’s about the WARMEST of an approach/interaction she can make it to show HER interest without actively coming on in the same way a horny guy would. In this instance, she is horny (damn near every one that is going out to a bar to have fun is)..and in her mind, will “the right guy rise to the occasion?” — meaning, will the guy who “gets” what’s going on (she’s chasing) pick up the ball and make this happen in a way that smoothly gets her away from everyone else so we can get primal?

      **All girls are different, and some are more willing to give it up and don’t care who knows it. Sorta like a sliding scale of sluttiness. I don’t judge em doh..they ain’t on trial.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 1:19 am Junior

        @PimpinBlueStar – noob trying to get his life together here bra. Read ur backstory in the YaReally archives & the work you put in to get where you did. Has inspired me massively to take action & head out solo – terrified outta my mind – props. Have had very limited success thus far, so while I’m here, any advice for the introvert whose social circle have largely coupled up & settled into couch + dvd routines on weekends? Where has your journey taken you?

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 4:22 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        What I don’t understand is this: fucking 20 men while being selective about it and fucking the first 20 men you see makes you just as much of a slut. The latter simply is both slutty AND stupid. I don’t have a problem with sluts, but the self-delusion here is hilarious.

        What I think the slut thing boils down to is peer pressure on who a woman sleeps with: if her friends approve(i.e. would fuck you too), then she won’t be considered a slut.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 10:54 am PimpinBlueStar

        @Junior

        When I decided enough was enough and I wanted more female relationships in my life, I did a LOT of daygame. For me the reasons were 1) I’m sober and 2) it frightened me…the thought of going up to a girl that normally I would just walk by and not say anything and instead do my best to make something happen…this would make me sweat just thinking about it. Especially the fact that she probably wouldn’t expect a guy to hit on her during the day. The fears I had were: this girl is going to think I’m an idiot, I don’t know what I’m going to say, these girls dont’ go for guys like me…

        As the story turns out, they do. What I see now is that I finally accepted myself as an alpha male who has relationships with the girls I want (not any particular girl, but the types of girls). I accept that some girls will REALLY like me, some hate me and I’m totally at peace with that. I was always an alpha male, it just took me looking in the mirror and accepting it.

        Whatever scares you (that you really want to do, like talk to gorgeous women) do it A LOT and be cool about it. If you can talk to a hot girl, not be needy and just treat her like a normal human being, you’ve done what 99% of people have not done. This is what I realized after doing a lot of daygame. If you are at peace with her may wanting to fuck you or not, then the dynamic won’t be too heavy and you can be the kind of guy who she feels comfortable around…whether it’s just as friends or more intimate.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:03 am PimpinBlueStar

        @pitjama

        We clearly have a different definition of what a “slut” is. I would say the reason I fuck the girls that I do is because I don’t have the attitude you have. If a girl wants to have sex with 20 guys, why would I be mad about that? I mean, she had sex with me too, and I’m not trying to lock her down, so why bash her?

        My definition of slut is a girl who uses sex to hurt someone else. What she does when we’re not together is not my business, just as mine isn’t hers, and I’d rather make it all a good experience that everyone feels good about, instead of being a douche and make her feel bad for no reason other than I’m jealous that other guys are getting with her too.

        And to other guys new to the game, if you want to play the field for a while (I certainly enjoy it :)) … get used to letting girls do their own thing. Be the guy she wants to lock down by being attractive to lots of women instead of the beta douche who wants to lock down every girl he has sex with.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 11:20 am Hunter

        “As the story turns out, they do. What I see now is that I finally accepted myself as an alpha male who has relationships with the girls I want (not any particular girl, but the types of girls). I accept that some girls will REALLY like me, some hate me and I’m totally at peace with that. I was always an alpha male, it just took me looking in the mirror and accepting it.”

        So true. I think I’m starting to see the break in my own clouds.

        Thanks PBS. Great stuff here.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 12:57 pm Scray

        ‘fucking 20 men while being selective about it and fucking the first 20 men you see makes you just as much of a slut.’

        Okay. What if she’s only slept with 4 guys, but blown 3x as many? Is she less slutty? What if she’s only slept with 1 guy, but jerked off two guys at once one time? What if she’s slept with 15 guys, but all of them were uber nice beta dudes who committed to her before getting the puss and she tried her best to like them but it fizzled?

        Slut is such a nebulous concept and the Madonna/whore complex is just cray.

        @PBS
        ‘I’m not trying to lock her down’

        I think a lot of men are looking for that LTR tho. And that’s usually where it matters for a lot of guys. I totally agree with you though.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 7:49 pm Junior

        @PimpinBlueStar – appreciate the input, thanks fella. You’ve articulated what I’ve come to realize also. Much respect & hope u continue to shoot for the lifestyle you want.

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 3:44 pm Reco

        Hey Junior how did you find pimpinbluestars stuff in the archives? I tried searching for it by his name but it found nothing.

        Good luck man.

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 3:53 pm Lumpy

        @Reco – The PBS link is kinda tucked away. It’s at the bottom of the sidebar under the heading “Other Posters”.

        If ya got any feedback for the archive lemme know!

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 5:53 pm Reco

        Got thanks brother.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 9:38 am YaReally

      Girls don’t chase when they know they can have you. Even Naturals don’t play that hard to get.

      To make a girl really truly chase, you have to mindfuck her. Give her amazing emotions and addict her to them like a drug and then take them away. And give her just enough to keep her hooked and keep taking it away. And take it away for completely arbitrary reasons and then make her earn it back in completely arbitrary ways (investing) etc.

      I know a Natural guy who used to do this all the time with different girls. He was a bit twisted but he had hot girls following him down the street crying and begging (fucking embarrassing/depressing to watch) for him to give them another chance etc. Lots of crying and drama and shit involved.

      He was good, he got laid more than anyone I’ve ever seen, but I didn’t envy the drama it all came with lol

      I use a bit of it but just enough to get a girl back in line if it seems like she’s flaking too much or takes me for granted and then I drop it. So I use it more like a minor punishment and just use as much as is necessary. He used it hardcore and took it to the extremes to entertain himself (and appease his own need for validation) lol

      Here’s an example of the kind of tactic that makes them chase:

      http://yareallyarchive.com/2014/5/#comment-heartiste-563271

      The problem with most guys is the girls KNOW that if they snapped their finger the guy would happily whip his dick out. Esp if she’s high SMV. Even if he hasn’t given any indication that he WOULD, she ASSUMES it because she’s high SMV and to her that’s how the world works.

      So to even stand out as a guy who won’t chase her, you have to actively instigate situations that demonstrate that, and that’s just to get on her radar as a possible challenge. From there you have to hold your frame against hers (she has a lifetime of reference experience that she’s the shit and thousands of guys chase her, and most guys have maybe 1-3 experiences in their like of girls chasing them) through all her testing, and then you have to ACTIVELY TURN DOWN her pussy a few times lol which is way beyond most guy’s level of self-control. Around THAT point is where a high SMV girl will chase you.

      So ya, you won’t see it often. Cause very few guys can successfully navigate that gauntlet. Even Naturals (hell, if anything Naturals tend to be even more emotionally reactive and willing to jump when she first offers).

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 12:52 pm Scray

        ‘And take it away for completely arbitrary reasons and then make her earn it back in completely arbitrary ways (investing) etc.’

        Ohhhh so that’s why the weird push/pull stuff I was doing seemed to work….even though it came from a bad place.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:46 pm Arbiter

      I don’t get this it seems more naturally that a guy has the girl chasing him but I rarely see high smv girls chasing.

      Why would that be the most natural? Look at nature: deer and elks for example: the males compete for the woman’s graces. Why do you think the male peacock is so colorful? It is to show that it is so strong it doesn’t have to hide from predators.

      Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Men can have many children with many women, and those who had the instinct to have those many children passed on their behavior genes. Therefore men today have the instinct to try to go after women, and without being picky and choosing for years. Men try with a lot of women. Therefore the competition increases for every woman, showing even more men that they have to move fast if they want to get anywhere.

      By contrast, a woman can have only a few children in her lifetime and can’t go for quantity, she has to go for quality in order to pass on her genes. Those women who took care to choose the best possible mate as the father of their children had children with a better chance of succeeding, passing on the mother’s behavior genes. Combined with the fact that men will already be chasing them hard, women will sit back and watch the men, pick carefully.

      You probably know the basics of all this, but sometimes it is best to spell it out anyway.

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  36. on May 18, 2014 at 6:36 am not_a_feminist

    Sorry, I’m disagreeing. COTW lost frame on grass mowing. This wasn’t a super secret squirrel subtle shit test. She was trying to ask you, in a non-nagging way (and she herself did it imperfectly, no question), how to solve the problem of the grass needing cutting. She is not directly telling you, “drop what you are doing and go cut the grass now” (a request to which you should not submit b/c that is flipping the leadership roles and not being respectful of your time). The alpha route is to pinpoint the fact that there is a problem, and make a decision on how to solve that problem, and she can then comply. You played passive aggressive beta (screwing around with where’s the key, where’s the gas, trying to covert contract her into mowing the lawn) instead of leader alpha, which is to just tell her what to do and allow her to comply.

    Better approach on both ends (especially if mowing lawns is one of the home-maintenance tasks typically in your wheelhouse): Her: “The lawn really needs mowing today. I could try to do it, but I really wanted to get X accomplished as well and I have to pick children up by 3pm from school so I’m worried I won’t have time.” Your response: “If you want it cut today or tomorrow, you’ll have to hire someone or do it yourself. Skip X. Otherwise, it will have to wait until Q date when I can take care of it.” You’ve now prioritized work, and she can execute. (If she decides to do it and then makes the calls on no key, no gas, etc., then you teasingly mock the poor widdle woman who can’t figure out how to get her grass done right and needs the big man to do these outdoor tasks for her. Jump to, joke about how you hope she is not as confused the next time it comes to figuring out how to trim her bushes. Etc.) Note as well that “I can take care of it” does not mean, “I do the work on your schedule/timetable”; it can also mean getting someone else to deal with it. Either way, she is submitting to your response, your decisions, on your time frame.

    THEN if she pushes back (but I CAN’T do it because I don’t know where the key is, there isnt’ gas in it, blah blah) then repeat, “Then that leaves you with the options of hiring someone or suck it up and wait until Q.” This reaffirms that the decision has been made, and she can’t break your frame. If she continues to persist and says she can’t hire someone either, because it REALLY needs to be done today because of blah blah blah, then you again push it back as her being the source of the problem by observing, “then next time don’t leave this kind of request until the last minute,” and hang up the phone. She now has the task, instructed by you, of getting her act together as well, and her problem is…well, her problem, not yours.

    I would also note, that if this is a typical responsibility that you have taken on, and you preemptively slacked it off without notice (eg., I have a busy week this week and need to get a 10k run in, so I’m telling you I’m not doing the lawn until Sunday afternoon), that is an observable slacking of leadership role/failure to execute tasks on your end which she should bump back on you for abdicating. Just as you should rightly bump back on her if she is responsible for grocery shopping and dinner and, three nights in a row without explanation you eat fast food against an empty refrigerator.

    I’m now going to go make my husband his breakfast.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:45 pm haunted trilobite

      The man stated in a previous post that he knows his wife and that it was a ST

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:59 am Glengarry

      Nah, women are just too cold and rational and straightforward about communicating with their husbands; I love to spice up the household management with a lot of manipulation and drama instead.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 5:27 pm JCclimber

      Or she could just say – the lawn needs mowing, Please let me know when you’re planning on doing it so I can quit worrying about it and start worrying about other things.

      Yep. That’s how it would be done if women were logical and not passive aggressive and constantly throwing shit-tests at their men. Nothing secret squirrel about it, this was a simple passive-aggressive s-test.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 2:00 am Glengarry

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  38. on May 18, 2014 at 9:54 am Anonymous

    Alpha in training…

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  39. on May 18, 2014 at 3:07 pm Libertardian

    “In The Nation: Careful, nonideological article on school secession movement, and startling comment thread.” http://t.co/aFDAlMrXZe

    Nonideological? It starts with this:

    “How a ‘New Secessionist’ Movement Is Threatening to Worsen School Segregation and Widen Inequalities

    Sixty years after Brown, whiter, wealthier communities are breaking away from racially and economically diverse school districts.

    A new secessionist movement, anchored in the South, provides yet another reminder that ‘separate’ still means ‘unequal’ when it comes to the racial dynamics of the nation’s public schools.”

    Them goshdarn Konfederate Klansmen are at it again!

    And ends with this:

    “‘I very strongly prefer that my children attend racially diverse schools,’ said Tania Nyman, a white mother of two, who is trying to prevent creation of new districts in Baton Rouge. ‘I believe that a public school system that is truly public and welcomes all children in the entire community is a really, really important foundation for democracy. But I suppose that sounds very old-fashioned. Doesn’t it?'”

    Shame on you people who want your kids to learn about tools of white capitalist oppression like reading, writing, and arithmetic. We’re going to teach them about racial, social, and economic equality. Now get your unwashed asses out of our heavily fortified 99.99999% white enclave before we order Smithers to release the hounds.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:56 am Arbiter

      So separate schools means the White children do better and the Black children do worse. And this is supposed to be Whites’ fault?

      Let’s say there were separate schools for all Japanese in the U.S. Does anyone believe they would do worse in school than they do now?

      Oh well, we have to put up with this nonsense at the most two decades more. When the dollar collapse comes, as it inevitably will since you can’t borrow and print to pay for the house of cards forever, the financial winter will freeze the gears in the PC machinery. You think it was bad in Greece, wait until depression hits a country that no one can afford to bail out. When tens of millions become unemployed every year, they won’t have to keep their heads down anymore.

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  40. on May 18, 2014 at 4:05 pm Libertardian

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Wade.shtml

    “Now, races are genetic subspecies, slightly blurred at the edges, of Homo (doubtfully) sapiens, just as Dobermans and Chows are subspecies of dog. Any dog breeder will tell you that Chihuahuas and Great Danes are not social constructs. Only a professor could think otherwise. The breeder will also say that Border Collies are smarter than beagles. This is genetic, not due to Border Collie Privilege.

    He will further assert from experience that much of behavior is genetic. If you think the personalities of pit bulls and cocker spaniels are equally warm and fuzzy, you probably need to stay away from dogs.

    It is also clear to inhabitants of the real world that genetic differences in behavior exist between sexes. Raise a heifer (for readers under thirty, that’s a little-girl cow) and a little-boy cow completely apart from other cows, so they learn nothing from cow culture. After they reach puberty, go into their field, throw rocks at them, and observe the differences in their reactions. (Put me in your will before doing this.)”

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:52 pm Arbiter

      Yep. Anyone with the slightest experience of different breeds of dogs, cats, horses and other animals know that they differ in inherent intelligence, temperament and behaviors. We also know that they have behavior genes, different-sized brains in proportion to the body, different amounts of hormones, etc. We know how DNA affects these animals, and we breed them with this knowledge in mind.

      …Yet we are supposed to completely ignore all this knowledge when it comes to human beings. Why? Because of the globalist YKW who control the media boardrooms.

      Be careful when reading Fred Reed, though. It is clear he is a racialist from writings in the past. But lacking prospects in the U.S. he went to marry a Mexican wife. From then on he had to write essays praising Mexicans and suddenly acting dumb on immigration: “Wha, how can they Whites complain about immigration, huh? They the ones who vote fo immigration, huh! Can’t blame Mexicans fo’ that! Mexicans smart, go where is work! Americans dumb, invite Mexicans and then complain when Mexicans come!” (Sure, “Americans” invited them. And the ones who invited them are the same as the ones who complain. Sure.)

      [CH: ‘lacking prospects”? why do people in this day and age continue to believe that foreign women are a downgrade from american women? if anything, it’s the opposite. otherwise, point taken. reed can’t or won’t go full realtalk.]

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      • on May 21, 2014 at 7:53 am Arbiter

        CH, Mexican women on average are surely a downgrade, and living in Mexico is definitely a downgrade from many areas in the U.S. and the West. I mean, just look at the place.

        But yeah. I have read a lot by Fred Reed. It’s sad to see what he really believes – and used to write about – but now suddenly he pretends to believe in arguments that he would easily shred earlier.

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  41. on May 18, 2014 at 4:18 pm shmeg

    This has been making the rounds “Feminist Frank”… Is that you Hugo Schwyzer?
    This is such a ” target rich environment ”
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/maycie/meet-feminist-frank-a-new-meme-that-youre-going-to-wish-was?bffb&s=mobile

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 5:36 pm Tilikum

      fucking awesome beta bait.

      flip that shit around and post it EVERYWHERE.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:48 am Arbiter

      Just for that, I think we should use “feminist Frank” as a label from now on. Kind of like nervous Nellie. Dude, don’t be such a feminist Frank.

      A guy like the one in the picture would of course never believe in feminism. He would be too successful with the women, which would mean he would know too much about them to be a feminist. Keep dreaming, lizards.

      “Reddit, especially the defaults, is full of racism and sexism” says Kandi Cae Jeffers in the comments. And she denounces MRAs. What a brave little feminist! Keep fighting the evil patriarchy! Because it takes courage to be a feminist and deal in platitudes, right? “Racism!” “Sexism!” Just parrot those words and you don’t need any arguments.

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  42. on May 18, 2014 at 4:53 pm Arbiter

    Cutting the grass is a manly duty. If you want the woman to cook, you better clean the grass.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 4:55 pm Arbiter

      “better cut the grass”, not “clean the grass”. Ah, whatever. Strange topic. Don’t know why he considers himself clever for avoiding yard work typically done by men. Why did he get a home with a lawn in the first place?

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 12:08 pm yak

        “Don’t know why he considers himself clever for avoiding yard work typically done by men. Why did he get a home with a lawn in the first place?”

        Exactly. That’s not cleverness or Alpha behavior. That’s laziness. As I said in an earlier comment, he should have held his frame and said it’s his lawn and he’ll take care of it when he gets around to it, I don’t want you screwing up the lawnmower, etc. Or he could have kept it simple and said, I’ll take care of it, what’s for dinner? She comes back with something else, you say, I’ll talk to you later and hang up the phone. End of discussion.

        Complaining about prior obligations just shows weakness and makes you seem like you can’t handle your responsiblities. And engaging in that game about the key and the gas wasn’t good game. It was the same kind of passive aggressive manipulation that she was doing.

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  43. on May 18, 2014 at 5:57 pm PA

    Re. CH’s tweet “Alpha of the Month Candidate” about a small town police commissioner who dropped an N-bomb and refused to apologize: there is now this headline in the news: “Mitt Romney rips police official’s ‘vile epithet,’ calls on him to resign.”

    Is there anything more belly-crawling low than a national-level Republican?

    And I say this as someone who has voted since 1992 and has not once, ever, voted for any Democratic candidate on any level.

    Whorefinder interjects: “yes, there is something just as low! me!”

    Whorefinder the neocon rat is just as low as the gutless GOP false-opposition swine when he says that Americans are useless because they have no enthusiasm for bleeding in foreign wars (see previous thread). He also believes in open borders immigration and amnesty because “if you’re not for transnational capital, you’re a leftie!”

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm Gr8YT

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:36 am Arbiter

      Neocon loyals like Mitt Romney and the rest are pathetic. Loyal to another race, one that over and over again acts against us. One that Westerners and only Westerners worship even as they seek to make us a minority in our own lands, and use us in wars against their opponents.

      Neoconnism is the politically correct alternative to political correctness. But with flags!

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 8:19 am Zombie Shane

        > “Neoconnism is the politically correct alternative to political correctness.”

        In exactly the same way, Alisa Rosenbaum’s Ayn-Randian Nihilism is the officially sanctioned theology which is designated to sit in apposition to Karl Marx’s Socialist Nihilism.

        Utterly Purposeless Kapitalist Nihilism -vs- Utterly Purposeless Socialist Nihilism.

        Well, purposeless except for that One Purpose to Rule Them All, One Purpose to Find Them, One Purpose to Bring Them all and in the Darkness Bind Them.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 9:19 am Arbiter

        My thought exactly, Zombie Shane. There is a reason Ayn Rand was lifted up by the media, celebrated, and even now has movies made based on one of her books – while much better anti-communist philosophers were completely ignored.

        Note that Ayn Rand didn’t just advocate a small state. Her philosophy advocated complete selfishness for the individual. By her doctrine it would even be impossible to give one of her books to a friend for free, since that would be an unselfish act, which she said was “anti-life”. When even the libertarian YKW Murray Rothbard denounces her for being too hardcore on selfishness, you know something is seriously wrong with what she says.

        She took certain right-wing truths and distorted them. The idea that businesses acting for profit improve the market, she turned into praise of selfishness for not just business but individuals. “The beauty of capitalism is that it works because of selfishness.” No. The beauty of capitalism is that it works DESPITE selfishness. But like 1990s cut-throat business in Russia showed, a market where everyone is completely selfish is disastrous. No society can survive like that. That is NOT what has built the West.

        She was lying, of course. She wrote in the foreword to Atlas Shrugged that “When I arrived in America no one offered me help, nor did I ask for any.” Bull. She was helped by her YKV relatives from day one. Then she went to Hollywood – and got a job working in a studio wardrobe. Despite not speaking English. Despite all the English-speakers in Hollywood, looking for jobs. She got it because of her race.

        Her earliest worshipers moved in to her apartment building and the building next to it. They came primarily from a group of Canadian YKW families. This racialism is what Rand denounced as “mysticism” – yet she practiced it.

        She said love and attraction were “irrational” when they are logical instincts. Hypocritical as always, she had an affair for many years with Branden, another YKW. She supported him financially, another break with her laws about selfishness. And “Branden”, that was a name he took because in Hebrew “Ben Rand” means “son of Rand”. This kind of affection, and using symbolism (the name) to form feelings of togetherness, was “mysticism” that Ayn Rand denounced. For the fools who read her books. Not for herself.

        She made up lists of forbidden art and music. The classical music she didn’t like was “mysticism” – like Mozart. Her cult members were not allowed to listen to Mozart. But they HAD to smoke. Because Ayn Rand smoked. So she declared that smoking “symbolized the glowing fire in the mind.” (Symbolism again.) One cult member who didn’t smoke defended himself against an angry question about the matter, by claiming he was allergic to tobacco. He couldn’t say that he didn’t want to smoke.

        Ayn Rand held trials with herself as judge against cult members. Those who had broken her rules were thrown out. Even ASKING about the reason for some part of her theories was enough to be thrown out. In conflicts between members, invariably the higher-ups were favored. For example, a Randian woman complained about her Randian boss in a pay matter – the boss was favored, the woman expelled. So it was always.

        In fact, after a few years there were many times more people who were expelled from Ayn Rand’s “Objectivist circle” than were members. This inevitably led to the cult’s disappearance after Rand’s death.

        And this we should follow? Never. Rand didn’t even understand market economics, ostensibly the foundation of her philosophy. After reading an article about Soviet production of pins and needles, she declared that communism was petty and trivial, while capitalism was great for producing big monuments like skyscrapers and ocean-going ships. Shouldn’t the opposite come to mind? It is the market economy that sees to the myriad of little details – while communist countries make up for failings by engaging in symbolic monumental projects.

        In Ayn Rand’s books the workers were greedy and evil and the business owners were noble and good. And that was why capitalism was good. The same reasoning communism has, but in the other direction. Ayn Rand’s hero in Atlas Shrugged declares that he builds skyscrapers for his own sake, not for the masses. He says that the great ones in history are business leaders, and they create only for their own sake, and they are resisted at every turn by the evil masses. This is false. This is not what Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford were about. They loved their people and wanted to create for their sake. While, of course, at the same time promoting their own careers.

        Ayn Rand at all times sought to atomize Westerners, while she and her own kind, who filled her cult in New York, acted completely opposite her teachings. They engaged in “mysticism”, group loyalty, racial loyalty and leader worship, throughout the cult’s existence.

        The funniest part is that many libertarians praise her – when she angrily denounced libertarianism. As she angrily denounced every single philosophy on earth except her own.

        And today the two main Ayn Rand institutes – run by YKWs, of course – advocate bombing Iran with nuclear missiles. They advocated the same for Iraq and Afghanistan. They say that since the people aren’t free, they don’t really live, so it is better for them to be killed in the millions. And it also serves the goal of the “freest” and therefore most glorious nation, Isra…I mean, America. Yes, it’s about promoting American interests. Of course. Not another nation’s.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 12:12 pm 862sphinx

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  44. on May 18, 2014 at 6:45 pm elmer

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    When we’re talking both to Wikipedians and people outside of Wikipedia, we say, “Look, if we want to include all of these other narratives besides the typical narrative that we usually tell of dead white men, we’ve gotta get it in there now.”

    Editor’s note: A few weeks after we taped our interview with Adrianne Wadewitz, she died following a rock climbing accident. We broadcast this report with the encouragement of her family.

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  46. on May 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm Will

    Update from that girl I’ve bitched about…

    Nothing/radio silence since I took her to a hockey game in which she slept over and we banged multiple times. It’s normal that we do this whole radio silence after fucking/doing something but I have absolutely no idea how this girl is doing this…like I said she has brought it up before that she needs to know what I want from her. But what, is she expecting me to text her after the hockey game night saying “hey what’s up how are you?”

    Should I be initiating contact more? It’s like bitch you can text me….

    I just don’t want to go down the path of “why is he all of a sudden texting me and trying to talk all the time” b/c that’s when it’s easier for her to find a different alpha strange cock. Even though I fuck her good and am somewhat alpha.

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    • on May 18, 2014 at 10:55 pm Will

      Basically this: do I have an abundance mentality and keep initiating and hanging out and fucking (with me I initiating texts/handouts 2-3 times a week). And then when she says no or starts sending red flags go radio silence and “next” her.

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      Do I essentially ‘operate’ with an abundance mentality. As in no don’t text and initiate too much with her b/c you have other girls texting you to bang.

      Which is it? Is me texting her all the time technically chasing her? Could it be that I’m older than her and she’s party years for a girl.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 2:07 am Arbiter

        But what, is she expecting me to text her after the hockey game night saying “hey what’s up how are you?”

        No, but you find something completely unrelated to text her about. Or email her about. There is nothing wrong with emails. Texts are more cumbersome to write, so you have to write about something important, but with an email you can just send something interesting you want to say.

        …Which doesn’t mean you should send her trivia, of course. But in this case, when you don’t know what you should say, it works fine. Like, “Did you see that the new place has finally opened?”

        If she doesn’t reply at all or just writes “yes”, then you know she has cooled. If she writes a longer reply with information – “Yeah, I wanna go and check it out, right now I’m busy with classes but maybe I’ll go in the weekend” – then you know she is interested.

        Writing about something unrelated gives you both a chance to confirm whether you will keep seeing each other without either of you having to say so, and without having to write “How are you?”

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 8:36 am cryo

      “It’s exhausting to think of my relationship with this girl”

      Then stop?

      Find something else to focus your mental energy on. This is just a battle of wills between you and a slut. Who will break first? Hopefully not you.

      The longer you leave her without contact, the more she will think of you. Don’t make mistakes for short term gratification.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 11:17 am Tilikum

      player protip…

      you need to quit giving a shit right fucking now. like now-now. your scarcity mentality is fucking gross and coloring every interaction. i feel it so i guarantee she feels it, and is testing you. thing is she probably likes you but you are constantly fucking it up but she is giving you chance after chance to get it right. Thats a good sign. the constant investment is something at least.

      DO NOT CALL HER TEXT HER ANYTHING FOR 2 WEEKS.

      NOTHING.

      IF she shows up on your doorstep crying, act like nothing happened. after two weeks text her or reply to one of hers like nothing is wrong.

      DO NOT FUCKING EXPLAIN WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN. when you see her, tell her you work for the CIA, the answer wont matter if you say it with a smile.

      in this interaction you can be as sweet and nice as you want. a love bomb if you will.

      you are in a power struggle and unless you snap this bitch like a twig, you will always be loosing. win once, win hard, never fight this war again.

      (drops the mic)

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  47. on May 18, 2014 at 9:39 pm SoulSeller

    This has nothing to do with the post but is instead an eye-opening simplification of a trend we all see and it is time it was brought to our attention.

    Where were women 100 years ago? In a much more natural state than they were 50 years ago. Where were they 50 years ago? In a much more natural state than they were today. Same for men, who, having to suppress their primal instincts, use game, learned charm, learned charisma, etc as the current mating zeitgeist.

    CH wrote a while back about how, today, there are hundreds of women, and even some hotties competing to marry serial killer inmates on death row. A very telling eye-opener. Getting the picture yet? No? We’re getting there.

    We use techniques like negs (playful disrespect, but disrespect nevertheless compared to decades ago), head games via texts (passive-agressive-ish psychological manipulation which wasn’t available decades ago) and even straight up Machiavellian acting (dirty psychological manipulation which wouldn’t be so widespread if it weren’t for the Information Age) all in the name of, no, not just attraction…but making women WET. Dripping. Soaking. Gushing.

    Did it take these things to get the job done 100 or 50, hell, even 20 years ago?

    Disrespect is a very minor form of what psychological manipulation is a larger form of what Machiavellian acting is a major form of what serial killing is an acute form of what it takes to truly make women wet nowadays. Reasons irrelevant.

    The bottom line is that your average sheep woman who abides by the “sports for the men, soaps for the woman” rule, follows another rule. It is the most bitter ingredient of the red pill.

    Women get wet for evil.

    “Bad” boy is a euphemism we all need to acknowledge as just that. “Dark triad” traits are a euphemism for what will be needed to game 5’s and 6’s in 50 years.
    Make no mistake, our species is unknowingly devolving to Satanism, as anyone who has read their beliefs can tell you.

    From 100 years ago to 100 years from today, the complete debasement of the male species will be complete. There is nothing to enjoy about the decline unless you’re willing to learn Game 2.0, which will involve getting tattoos, pathological lying, learning a martial art for self-offense, the seven deadly sins, and any pantomiming and then becoming all of the hallmark character traits that can be found in a prison.

    In 100 years pickup venues will be coed prison yards and the human mating ritual will not be dancing, but crime.

    Ironic that Australia began as prison island, putting people there hoping to punish them by taking away their freedoms while they evolved into a first world country, while America began as a free nation, putting people there hoping to liberate them by giving them freedoms while we devolve into a prison.

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    • on May 21, 2014 at 7:49 am Arbiter

      Did it take these things to get the job done 100 or 50, hell, even 20 years ago?

      A noteworthy observation. (Although it did take these things twenty years ago. But no, not fifty years ago.)

      We have a different world today because we have abundance. That means we have free time, and a lot of money to spend on leisure. Thus, discos and night clubs even for those who are very young. It used to be that you got a woman by being in line to take over your parents’ farm, or becoming the town’s next shoemaker. Your worth was in how you could provide. But now everyone can provide – and women get money from the state for their offspring if needed. And there are MUCH more single people living in the same place, not just a few young villagers. So now you don’t get introduced to each other at an early age before preparing a marriage. You get to play around in a sea of single people. It isn’t natural for us, few men are made to excel with women in this atmosphere. We used to excel with tools in our hands, now we have to excel on the dance floor – which is a world turned on its head.

      But is it evil that women desire? Not as such. They desire men who are capable, strong and exciting. (Exciting being a sign that you are innovative and a mover and shaker, which means you are a capable man.) The men who can provide for a woman and her offspring.

      There is a lot of talk about jerks vs. nice guys. Because it is such a colorful difference; one would think that women would like “nice guys” more than jerks, but it’s the opposite. However, it’s not that they like only jerks. It’s that jerks display signs of alphahood. Signs that other man can also display.

      For example: Is there anything more exciting to a woman than a man who commands other men? This is the ultimate sign of strength.

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  54. on May 19, 2014 at 7:55 am Just Saying

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    This is one of the things that I look for. We (one of my girls) and I were at a family theme park earlier this year, and there was a family. Young children, Mom (hot little blonde early 30’s) and the Father and an older couple that I later learned was his parents. So my girl (20 yo, brunette) and I were sitting having a fast-food dinner – when Mom and Dad start arguing. Didn’t really matter why but it was obvious that Mom wasn’t happy – of course. So she goes storming off (I enjoyed watching her jiggle-past), and my girl says to me, “I think that’s my que. I’ll call you in a few if all goes well,” and takes off not that far behind while I finish the burger and fries and sit and enjoy the view. Good to her word she calls and says she has a “new” friend and are heading to the car,

    Long story short – Mom wasn’t happy that for most of the last week they had been doing “kidsy” things and she had wanted the Grandparents to take the kids so she and Papa could have some quality time today since she hasn’t had sex all week. So she ended up having quality time with a couple she didn’t know. Women are strange and wonderful things – she wanted time with her husband, but being raw-dogged by a guy she didn’t know was just as acceptable to her. It took a while to get her there – an hour or so, but the journey is half the fun and everyone knew where it would end up, it was just a question of letting her get there. I have used women’s need for drama to benefit myself throughout the years – it is very dependable. Women are such simple creatures – give them another female to compete against – one that is younger, hotter, and more attractive and enjoy the results. The guy is pretty much superfluous other than he gets to enjoy the competition since whatever the younger one does, that older one will HAVE to do as well. Never trust a woman when there are other women around – they will toss a marriage, kids, and everything in their needs for a little drama in their lives. Never forget that since it tells you what you, your family, and everything else is worth to her – not as much as that few hours of excitement in a boring life… Remember that since it will NEVER change. It is how women are – so accept it, and use it to your advantage….

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm newlyaloof

      Damn man! I thought you were talking about your daughter on the first read. Didn’t make any sense. Had to reread it in the swinger filter to get what you were saying. That’s crazy shit. You swingers are like alpha stalkers. Holy shite! And here I thought that dudes only were what to look out for for trouble regarding wives.

      And don’t forget your lady friend is just as willing to ruin the faithfulness of a marriage for the sake of the swinger chasing game with you. Not sure how much you can trust her either.

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      • on May 19, 2014 at 1:30 pm newlyaloof

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      • on May 20, 2014 at 8:18 am Just Saying

        thought you were talking about your daughter

        Could be in age, and while I have no problem with Mother/Daughter combo’s – I draw the line at biological daughters… A man has to have principles… 🙂

        your lady friend is just as willing to ruin the faithfulness of a marriage

        Of course. That’s why she is one of several women I see regularly, and she knows there are others. I don’t hide it – competition is a GOOD thing. Women can be fun, but NEVER give them anything they think is longer than till they annoy you. When they stop worrying about you walking, is when they start looking for a replacement (that is why marriage is just stupid for men). Don’t fault women for their fickleness – it is the nature of the beast, but use it for your benefit.

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    • on May 20, 2014 at 10:54 am reco

      Dude that is some amazing shit. Did you train your 20YO girl to do that. Or is she just instinctual about it?

      Give us details how did you get to this point?

      How do you foster and develop the competitive thing?

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    • on May 20, 2014 at 5:39 pm Zombie Shane

      > “It took a while to get her there – an hour or so…”

      Weren’t the Husband and the In-Laws getting all panicky about, “Oh my God, where did Wifey just disappear to?”

      Was she getting panicky calls and txts from them on her cell phone?

      Did they report her to the authorities as a missing person?

      Did the kids get all hysterical when their worthless whore mother just up and disappeared on them?

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  56. on May 19, 2014 at 8:26 am grim

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    Every single thinking person (everyone other than 80 IQ blacks) knows this.

    Yet the left continues its stupidity as if we don’t know.

    What it really does is exposes that we really are all truly trapped in a matrix. Those of us who can work are literally indentured servants working to provide EBT cards for the 40% who don’t work or pay taxes.

    The elections are obviously a charade. A big hollywood production. Whites are still the majority in this country and REAL polls shows things like Ross Perot would have won the election in 1992; (simply because people wanted something different other than the 2 party sham system…the people know what’s happening) and Ron Paul would have easily won in 2008.

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    • on May 21, 2014 at 8:48 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

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      I did the math and if I worked hard, I’d end up getting about 3 months of work and the government would suck up the remainder of the year’s worth of work. I don’t think the services they provide are worth more than maybe a month of my time. With the public retirement benefits disappearing/being severely reduced in the future, I doubt most of my generation will end up higher up than middle management so the prospects for advancement are dim also. In my country under a quarter are net tax payers(e.g. in the US public school employees aren’t tax payers because they pay taxes on money they get from the government to begin with). What I will try to do is extend my education as long as possible considering I will be paid for it and subsequently I will try to get EU grants as long as the EU lasts. If things go as planned, I will be able to just relocate in my late 30s to a country with tiny taxes and start a consultancy or whatever.

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  57. on May 19, 2014 at 8:39 am Cotton Mather

    Women are not adults, they are grown up children. Its sad that men have to play games to keep their lives and families from being destroyed by the whims of their children’s mother. The world will right itself when family authority is restored to men. We had it and we threw it away. No system is ever perfect, but the emancipation of women has become a never ending nightmare for everyone, greatly overshadowing the “problems” it was supposed to solve.

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  58. on May 19, 2014 at 10:24 am grim

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  59. on May 19, 2014 at 11:08 am eah

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm newlyaloof

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  60. on May 19, 2014 at 12:38 pm newlyaloof

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  61. on May 19, 2014 at 12:45 pm Scray

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    -but- she did say something really cool that gave me hope for society

    Me: I wanted to talk to you to just say that I don’t think I can like….commit to a relationship now or any time soon. And I mean, maybe you’re cool with that, maybe you’re not, but it’s actually hard on me. Relationships are tough….

    Her:…is that a bad thing?

    Me: Well….yeah, it’s because I like you that I don’t want to put you through that. I have shit I have to sort out in my life. You deserve someone who has it more together.

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    Me: Of course I want to see you. I just can’t do a relationship or commitment. And fair is fair, I thought I should tell you.

    Her: …well, is it even headed in that direction?

    Me: I don’t even know.

    Her: I’m 23, like….I’m getting too old to just ‘have fun’ for awhile with someone.

    Me: You’re still young.

    Her: Is it because of something in my past?

    Me: No.

    Her: Are you sure? Listen….I waited until I was 20 before even having sex. (News to me). Around that time I also decided to join a sorority….I was curious.

    Me: Yeah, I know you told me, it’s really not…

    Her: Just let me finish….and yeah, the next two years were mostly fun. But I made a few decisions that I regret. And I was always thankful that it wasn’t anything worse….one of my sisters got a train run on her, three times, on tape — I doubt her future husband will ever know about it. I left that life before I felt it was too late because I realized that all of those girls were shitty friends. And a lot of them were feminists and at first what they said made sense but after a little while I just realized I didn’t want any of what they were talking about.

    Me: …you don’t have to feel guilty about anything. This isn’t about that at all. (Thinking wtf is this even…)

    Her: Okay well no one ever told me about that stuff. I had to learn on my own to not put myself in those situations. And you don’t make me feel guilty, I want to do everything with you because I trust you. I never feel ashamed when I’m with you. I just wanted to say all of that because….I think you’re the type of guy that, if I had known more, I should’ve waited for.

    Me: (ugggggh this is heavy)…………..that’s a lot to process. I just don’t think I can give you what you seem to need right now.

    …..

    Idk her being really level-headed about her experience was awesome to me though. The ability to honestly reflect seems pretty rare on a chick (but how do I know? My experience is still kinda limited, which like 90% of the reason I have to keep moving). So ya I’m pretty depressed at the moment because, it’s just like….I’m not ready and I know it and I gotta move on. Some other guy will get her.

    Which is why I think I’m gonna do a 30 day challenge this June. 1 year after the last one.

    Anyway, maybe that gave some of you hope for single white females in the USA.

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    • on May 19, 2014 at 1:34 pm newlyaloof

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