Most of you are familiar with Occam’s Razor, the principle that of two or more competing theories to explain a phenomenon, the simplest one is likely the true one.
With a nod to Occam, CH introduces Orca’s Razor.
Orca’s Razor: Of two or more competing theories for why men don’t want to date fat chicks, the most spurious, most convoluted, and least plausible explanation that assuages the egos of fat chicks and their barely male enablers will be insisted as the correct one.
A case study of Orca’s Razor in action (via reader yeahokcool):
from the front lines of tortured logic (see comments):
guy: I’ve dated a lot of heavier girls and I’ve definitely felt the judgement from other men. The problem isn’t that men don’t like big girls; it’s that men don’t like the way other men look at them when they’re with big girls.
girl: Yeah, I don’t think this is commentary on forcing yourself to be attracted to someone who you’re not attracted to. It’s about letting societal pressure bully you out of being attracted to someone who you ARE attracted to.
reality: yes, you are being judged by other men and women because you are everyone innately knows that only losers are fat and/or date fat people. furthermore, women fail, yet again, to realize that their attraction to men is entirely different than men’s attraction to women. i love how much women (fat ones, particularly, i imagine) just WANT these comments to be true!
Orca’s Razor is in effect the inverse of Occam’s Razor. Instead of slicing away superfluous concepts, Orca’s Razor slices the most elegant explanation to shreds, and then presents as incontrovertible fact the id gruel that is a mix of the viscera of various feelgood theories that were made up from whole cloth with the express purpose of avoiding and nullifying the simplest and truest explanation for why men are repulsed by fat girls.
Occam’s Razor: Men don’t date fat chicks because fat chicks are disgusting to look at.
Orca’s Razor: Men don’t date fat chicks because men secretly like fat chicks but have to suppress their urges to avoid being looked at in a funny, judgmental way from other men.
Like most equalist cant, Orca’s Razor is poopytalk pumped at high volume to fill you to the eyeballs with shit so you’re blinded to reality. No one is ever truly blinded to reality, as we can see by the real life decisions that people make even inside hothouse leftoid reeducation camps, but that won’t stop the walrus warriors from rolling over to crush newborn realtalk that chafes their megafauna hides.
This is an example of what Steve Sailer calls “Occam’s butterknife”, i.e. the most obfuscating explanation.
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Hahaha. “Orca’s butterknife” may be better. After all, fat chicks are no doubt more familiar with butterknives than with razors.
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No doubt those butterknives come in handy for digging out encrusted body cheese from between rolls of fat.
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Landswhale’s razor
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I wouldn’t look for a bright line rule here. There is an old maxim among motorcyclists about scooters (Vespas, etc) – “they can be a lot of fun to ride, but never let your friends catch you on one.”
[CH: fat chicks aren’t fun to ride either. not to men who have any options at all.]
There’s a difference, however, between a guy who hops on a scooter opportunistically because it’s got some cool aspect to it (e.g. a vintage post-war Vespa) versus a guy who got a DUI and can’t drive a car, and is only allowed to ride mopeds, or Likkercycles as they call ’em down south.
[vintage scooters aren’t built like cement trucks.]
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Indeed, some guys do like grabbing and being engulfed by big breasts (but not squeezed by the big bellies usually associated to them)
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What gets me about truly fat chicks* is the amount of time and effort and money it must require to get that fat.
Some of those chicks must be eating 5000 to 7500 calories per day.
That shit must get expensive after a while.
*The ones who waddle around like frigging human bowling balls.
And then they get so fat that they have to ride the motorized scooter in the grocery store.
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Cheap calories are cheap
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“That shit must get expensive after a while.”
When people tell me that they can’t afford to get lean (I’m not making that up), I tell them:
You had to invest five bucks a pound in fat capital, now you all you have to do is live off your capital at five bucks a pound.
Now, about that twenty bucks you say you can’t afford to pay me back, fatass.
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“Cheap calories are cheap”
Oreos: 3 bucks per 2kC at Wal-Mart.
Ground Beef: 3 bucks per 2kC fresh from my independent butcher, not out of a tube at Wal-Mart.
Synthesized crap nuggets or fresh beef; it’s a decision, but it’s not an economic one.
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Sugar water is cheaper than bottled water. A 2 liter is about $2 and 1000 calories. Double cheeseburgers at McDonalds are $1.50 and are 500 calories a pop. Fructose from the sugar stops your body from sending Leptin to your brain, so you’re always hungry. I’m not excusing fat people, just pointing out that most people are fat because it’s _easy_.
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But you gotta drive to McDonald’s.
And you gotta go to Walmart and get that oversized shopping cart and fill it with $300 worth of lard and check it out with the cashier and then load it into your car and then unload it into your house.
And then actually set aside the time to chew the lard and swallow it and shit it out your ass a few days later.
I know one Orca who “sneaks” out from work every damned day for a lunch consisting of a medium-sized pizza.
It must be costing her family upwards of $15 per day just for the pizza and the Coca Cola the gasoline to get her fat ass to the pizzeria and back.
Which comes to
[5 work-days per work-week] X [50 work-weeks per year] X $15 per lunch
= $3750 per year.
Just for her Orca lunch during the work-week.
God only knows what she engorges herself on over the weekend.
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“A 2 liter is about $2 and 1000 calories. ”
And ya know what’s cheaper and even easier than drinking sugar water? Not drinking sugar water. There’s water that doesn’t even come in a bottle. You just turn the knob or press the button and it squirts out at you, for “free.” If you insist on drinking it from a bottle you can squirt it into a bottle.
“Double cheeseburgers at McDonalds are $1.50 and are 500 calories a pop.”
Or 5 bucks or more per pound stored as fat on the cheap stuff. Someone 100 lbs. overfat has invested at least 500 bucks into it. I could sell ’em a pretty decent single speed for that.
Yes, it’s easy to get fat, just eat a lot, especially a lot of sugared hydrogenated vegetable oil.
It’s still easier to not eat it and not get fat, not to mention cheaper (why mention the subject, this is the Internet after all). I’m just pointing out that it’s a decision. Calories are just as cheap for me (impedence scale 6% fat, the lying bastard) as they are for the land whale; cheaper actually.
But I made different decisions. Decisions that would have me just as I am if calories in unlimited quantities were free.
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Depends on how the scooter’s built. I’m sticking up for guys who might like to take chunky Renee Zelwegger (Bridget Jones Diary era) for a ride. She could have stood to lose 15-20 lbs, but even at her flat-assed dumpiest was probably still in the neighborhood of a size 8.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending the people who ride the People of Walmart here. That is not the intent. Having now googled the chick who was in Louie… ah, got it. She could lose a Renee Zellwegger worth of weight, and would still weigh more than chunky Renee Zellwegger. Yeah, I’m probably talking past you…
Then again, I don’t think these guys are looking at Chunky Renee either but are defending landyachty chicks… I suspect they’re more like Captain Ahab, on the hunt for their white whale.
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> “chunky Renee Zelwegger (Bridget Jones Diary era)”
I was gonna make the distinction above about large girls – truly big-boned gals – as opposed to the obese blubberous land whales.
Chicks like Jennie Finch or Sophie Dahl or Missy Franklin.
5’10” tall or more, big luscious D-cups, wide hips, the whole package.
That kinda thing.
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I prefer the term “thick” girls. Sybil Hawthorne and Jewel Marceau are two great examples.
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Yes, but even “thicker” girls need to maintain the hourglass-shaped WHR. That’s still a feminine shape found in nature. Shapeless fatties with rolls instead of curves are far from natural.
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> “poopytalk pumped at high volume to fill you to the eyeballs with shit so you’re blinded to reality”
Which has been The Frankfurt School’s modus operandi ever since they were granted their “emancipation” about 150 years ago.
Lie about everything.
Then lie about the lies.
Then lie about lying about the lies.
Then lie about lying about lying about the lies.
All the while introducing ever larger and more audacious lies into the public discourse.
Poison not just “the well”, but every possible well, and every possible attempt to drill a new well in search of clean potable sustenance.
DESTROY EVERYTHING.
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Zomb,
I thought you might like this video,( only 6 minutes long)
http://www.truthrevolt.org/video/bill-whittle-gaslighting
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Thanks.
It’s been the Frankfurt School’s modus operandi since Day One:
“Well, there is no famine.”
http://www.garethjones.org/published_articles/st_patricks/litvinov_famine_denia_oldl.htm
As they were starving to death 10,000,000 Ukrainians in the Holodomor.
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CH, YaReally:
Would you opine that even a 30 year old single mother on eharmony (the marriage site where they are REALLY looking for beta bux) is up for becoming a fuck buddy if my game were tight enough?
Because it’s like they EXPECT you are expecting to be beta provider by being on eharmony.
I have two HB10s (they are stunning, physically) who are interested in me (one is 28 and the other 30 years old), both claim to be very Catholic (lzozoozozlzo other guys got to impregnate them outside of marriage (well one was married but got divorced)but new beta provider must wait for marriage) and openly state they are looking for a husband.
Is it possible to game them? Like they expect dinnerview dates. I flat told one I don’t do dinnerviews and she seems shocked. You would not waste your time, but remember I don’t go out much and don’t meet people anymore other than online.
Met the first one and just walked around talked.. I need to kino big time on the next meeting. I don’t know if she’ll be shocked like that Tyler video because I’m a provider or will she be pleasantly surprised and get the twinkle in her eye?
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> “two HB10s (they are stunning, physically)”
What are they like intellectually and morally and spiritually?
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Stunted, based on the description.
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beauty, smarts, and agreeableness all positively correlate.
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“beauty, smarts, and agreeableness all positively correlate.”
What about the notion that stunners have been catered to so hard that their personality and sense of entitlement ends up worse than those who are less good looking? Arguably, hotties might be worse because their looks allow them to get away with more.
You could also make the case that they have better personalities than uglier chicks because they have less reason to be bitter.
It is a possibility that both ideas are accurate: uglier chicks are more likely to by nasty and with issues but the hotties are more likely to be solipsistic, entitled, vapid, sheltered and removed from reality. No struggle whatsoever.
Your take?
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The issue here is conflating agreeableness and having an entitlement complex. the toxic brew is when a false entitlement is mixed with an ego that senses it can’t play in the big leagues.
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> “beauty, smarts, and agreeableness all positively correlate.”
That was what I was thinking.
If they’re really pro-life [meaning they didn’t murder their babies when they had the chance to], and if they’re really HB10s [not just HB6s masquerading as HB10s in some poor miserable loser’s fertile imagination], then I don’t know that I’d be so quick to dispense with them.
Bitches like that just MIGHT be worth investing some time in.
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Ho, the truth is that nobody cares if a hot chick has a shit personality.
By nobody caring, I mean really, nobody gives a flying fart.
Not a whit of a crap.
Not a single, solitary rat’s patootey.
That is the power of beauty.
If fat chicks would at least get through that through their skulls, and “strengthen the things that remain” then they could use what lesser but still present power they have to get what they want.
Denying the truth helps nobody.
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both claim to be very Catholic (lzozoozozlzo other guys got to impregnate them outside of marriage (well one was married but got divorced)but new beta provider must wait for marriage) and openly state they are looking for a husband.
Correction: not Catholics, but members in good standing of the Neo-Protestant/Libtard Vatican II Novus Ordo religion, just like Belle Knox’s dad.
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Lol your game does not have to be that tight to make a single mother a FB. They crave anything that even resembles alpha because they want to feel desirable. Most of the guys who give them attention are startlingly/nauseatingly beta.
‘ Like they expect dinnerview dates.’
The single mom — aka she who will not be named — from last fall, I did none of that with. So….
If I were you, don’t even approach or interact with them with that frame. Go hard alpha. It’ll remind them of when they were younger and unsaddled with children I bet.
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you know the funny thing (sorry about so many replies, CH) is that I have no choice but to become YaReally (as much as I can) and be the dude who can pull above my weight class, because, get this: I’m actually NOT as qualified a provider as she probably thinks. She hasn’t seen my crappy car yet. I make good money (closer to $200,000 than $100,000) but as I’ve posted her way too much, I give it all to my ex wife and I drive a crappy car and I have bad credit and I”m a renter.
I’ll be embarrassed if she sees my car. (I saw hers.)
I actually NEED to learn game to be the loser dude she just wants to bang….. she’s hot enough to get the type of provider who will buy her a land rover, even though she has a kid.
(another thing about this one, unlike the other one, is she has ONE kid, who is 9, and is generally in decent shape….like the father is around…..not a horrible situation….point being she can land a greater beta with real money even with the kid becauuse she’s very hot and had the kid when she was 21….. now at 30 she still looks 22.)
ladies, if you have your kids young, you can recover your body.
I have made this claim before (about the one from last november that I beta’d out on), but it’s true because this is the only type of women I date: she basically looks like a poor man’s Adriana Lima. She’s not 6 feet tall, which is too tall for me anyway. She’s a 5’4″ Adriana Lima. That’s how beautiful her face is and she has a ripped hard body and a pretty sweet voice and demeanor.
It’s kind of strange that she seems to like me and has not blown me off yet.
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I dabbled with a few single moms right after the ex and I separated. They will try to push you around/flake/issue rules for you that no other guy followed if they think you’re weak. Secret is, if they see you in the company of women who are just single and not a mom, they’ll go nuts letting you know they’re interested. You can easily build a harem of spawn-encumbered lassies if you want. Social proof for the win.
(And I do mean nuts. One chick, couple years younger than me that I took home but didn’t quite bang, flaked, got deleted, came back on the scene a few months later to discover I’m hanging out with gals 15 years my junior. She threw herself at me every time she saw me afterwards, and when I didn’t respond to her efforts, she decided to have a going-away threesome with two guys, one of whom usually hangs out at this gay bar up the road. Which… didn’t make her more attractive in my eyes, actually.)
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@grim
“she’s hot enough to get the type of provider who will buy her a land rover, even though she has a kid.”
how’s that workin’ out for her so far…lol…she still on eharmony looking…? don’t sell yourself short…or misjudge her SMV…
“(another thing about this one, unlike the other one, is she has ONE kid, who is 9, and is generally in decent shape….like the father is around…..not a horrible situation….point being she can land a greater beta with real money even with the kid becauuse she’s very hot and had the kid when she was 21….. now at 30 she still looks 22.)”
if she had this beta on the string, why is she still out looking? don’t underestimate the SMV hit she takes from having a kid (who will actually give her ‘commitment’?…pump and dumps don’t count…lol) would you be willing to ‘wife her up’? if not, then her SMV is below yours…
and don’t worry about your car…if you’re not embarrassed by it, she won’t be either…(but expect some kind of shit test to check your alpha frame…)
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@Grim
Providers and Lovers do not offer the same thing to women, so they aren’t competing against eachother. 99% of guys she’s talking to are offering Provider shit. Be the guy who’s offering Lover shit and you aren’t even competing in the same race as them. I don’t have a car or money or jacked looks or anything…most of the girls I’m with have dated and are orbited by and regularly hit on by guys who have all that shit. Why do they go for me (and usually keep those guys on the side because hey, free presents, and they don’t even have to put out, these guys will drop ridiculous cash on them just for a bit of attention lol)? Because I’m offering something none of those guys is offering: fun, flirting, a range of emotions, and good sex. I’m not running the same race as them, so they literally aren’t competition for me.
It’s not about being a “loser”, it’s about understanding what women really value and providing THAT instead of what mainstream social conditioning has told you women value and trying to compete with all these guys at Providing that (a competition you can’t win because there will always be another guy who’s richer, taller, better-looking, has a nicer car, etc. than you. Always).
She does NEED that other shit, but there are dozens of guys offering her that. None of those guys is offering her a hot sexy fantasy adventure.
Take yourself out of the Provider race and run the Lover race, because you have basically no competition there…feminism and mainstream social conditioning has made damn sure of that lol
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‘I actually NEED to learn game to be the loser dude she just wants to bang….. she’s hot enough to get the type of provider who will buy her a land rover, even though she has a kid.’
Nah…
Right now you’re just in a bad headspace. You’re talking as though the woman is ‘above’ your weight class. Why? She’s a single mother. She’s automatically beneath your weight class.
‘I give it all to my ex wife and I drive a crappy car and I have bad credit and I”m a renter’
Perfect. Way easier to set the frame of being non-bf material. I don’t even clean up my apartment or anything anymore, and I don’t even reveal I have a job until way after the bang. Idk wat ur standards are for crappy cars but I’m pretty sure mine is bullshit. My credit isn’t so hot, and I don’t own anything.
Pretty sure women don’t care about that stuff. Shit, take her back to your place and slap her around a bit/choke her/engage in quasi-rape play and she’ll be cleaning and cooking for you lol
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ya = owen
verbosity, hyperbole, club/name dropping, pimping rsd, self amused lol’s, same catch phrases, same cadence, same terminology, lame pop culture refrences, makeout obsession, same age, same introvert to extrovert story
types like he talks, a celebrity in his own mind
i’d pay to see him drop acid for the first time
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@Grim
Will post more about competing with Provider guys some other time (hint: I’m going to be fucking a girl (cool chick actually, I dig her) in the back of a BMW one of her orbiters loans her to drive now and then because he has a gay orbiter crush on her and takes her on dates to fancy places where he buys her and her friends $1000 bottles of liquor and shit. She told me he’s letting her drive it around and I txted “you know we’re going to be banging in the back seat of that, right?” and she loves it. P.S. I don’t even own a car lol)
The key is that she doesn’t expect all that expensive shit from me, because I’m not a Provider type to her. So when I don’t Provide it, that doesn’t dry her pussy up. She doesn’t expect it from me. She may one day let one of these guys be her long-term Provider, but she’ll never fuck them the way she fucks me because they are, by the very act of supplicating so hard to her, less attractive than me.
Why are these girls on eHarmony trying to screen you as a Provider? Because you’re on a site that’s basically called “find-a-provider-beta.com” lol
If you were in a bar dressed like a nerd and nerds were approaching a girl all night long and when you approached she screened you as if you were a nerd it’s like, well ya, ’cause you look like a nerd so they categorize you. Now if they glanced at you again and you were Brad Pitt in a nerd outfit, would they fuck you? Ya, of course. They may want one of those nerds as a Provider, but you aren’t playing the same game those guys are.
That’s a big prob with online dating is the girls are automatically in “screening for the best Provider” mode and all the guys play into it.
So right from the start you have to separate yourself from the rest of those guys.
I like to “flip the script” and screen/qualify the girls extra hard. “You’re not crazy are you? How many cats do you have? You’re not planning our wedding already are you? I knew you were a Stage 5 clinger lol” That kind of shit, where they’re like “wait, I’m supposed to be screening him!! He must be high-value if he’s screening me”.
I also like to AMOG the rest of the guys on the dating site. “How have the creepers on here been so far? What’s the creepiest message you’ve gotten so far (besides mine obviously lol)? I was going to just send a pic of my dick but I’m pretty sure you already have an Inbox full of those” etc.
Those two mindsets should get you far. Don’t do dinner interviews lol or agree to do them and then just completely change the plan once she shows up. Be like “okay let’s go” and take her to a lounge near your place where you can game her and extract.
Don’t let them set the frame. The website itself encourages the idea that it’s the women screening the men, don’t fall into that.
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YaReally thanks as always for the advice.
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I think this is probably broadly applicable to most leftist “theories”.
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Leftoid theories aren’t based on facts. They’re an attempt to destroy civilization by smothering it under a ton of bullsh!t.
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> “They’re an attempt to destroy civilization by smothering it under a ton of bullsh!t.”
BINGO.
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Not sure what to write because I generally don’t go near or even look at girls who are heavier than me and I weigh 180-190.
It could be relative though: so, a 260 pounder would be more likely to sex up a 180 pounder than me. That’s the only exceptions with fatties. Skinny girl will always win though.
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And @YAREALLY
I’ve learned a lot from you and you’re posts make sense.
But if youre so good at gaming (and you’re posts speak with a ton of wisdom)….why don’t you have a HB 9 girlfriend for the long haul?
I get that you can game more variety and hook up with a higher variety of girls. But that takes so much time and energy when you have personal careers/goals in mind.
The HB 9 long haul girl is my goal and I’ve had quite a difficult time with it (even having been through 4+ relationships with hb9s). And I did fuck up majorly not even knowing anything about how girls worked.
But I still find that it is very difficult long hauling the 19-23 party years hb 8-9s
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> “HB 9 long haul girl is my goal”
In the old days, you would call her your wife and the mother of your children.
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@Will
“I’ve learned a lot from you and you’re posts make sense. ”
Glad to be of help!
“But if youre so good at gaming (and you’re posts speak with a ton of wisdom)….why don’t you have a HB 9 girlfriend for the long haul?”
Don’t want one. I get bored of the same girl and the same vagina. I like my days unpredictable and exciting, and my sex life full of variety. I also have no desire to do relationship shit like sit on a couch getting fat watching reality TV together all the time and ignoring my buddies etc. to just curl up on a couch with a girl every weekend. I have work shit to do and going out and macking on girls is exciting and fun to me.
Put it this way: What do I get out of a long-term girlfriend that I can’t get out of 3-5 solid fuckbuddies and a few randoms? Like really, what benefit is there? I get all the fun parts of relationships (sex, flirting, dates, friendship, cuddling, girls cooking for me or surprising me with presents and dressing up when they meet up with me etc.) without any of the lame shit (fighting, her witholding sex, having to listen to her bitch about work and all her problems, her getting slowly fatter over time, routine boring same sex every night, her getting older and uglier (lol), etc.)
Also GFs tend to hinder your goals not support them. No girl has ever said “please spend MORE time at work and LESS time with me!” It’s always “why don’t you make time for me?? come lay down with me…come be with me, you don’t need to work tonight. You don’t need to go to the gym. I LIKE you with a little meat on your bones. Just come lie down with me I’m so sad today…” lol Fuckbuddies I can be like “no, fuck off, I have work to do”.
I also haven’t hit my game peak yet. There’s so much more I want to do in terms of personal goals and my bucketlist in the game.
Hell, I’m still exploring harem management. I see the ideal for me when I get older being a Primary long-term GF, with a couple regular Secondary FBs on the side, then randoms now and then. That’s a happy life for me lol But I still have some shit to learn about how to make that work long-term.
“But that takes so much time and energy when you have personal careers/goals in mind.”
Nah. I’m good at time management. I work and bang fuckbuddies (or go on Day2s to create new fuckbuddies) during the week, and I go out on the weekends with my buddy to go meet more girls. Easy.
The prob a lot of guys have is that they get caught up in all the gay drama younger girls throw at them so it feels like it takes a lot of time and energy. A girl sent me txts today telling me she loves me, followed by me not responding (had another girl over lol), then her sending another txt saying fine she hates me and she’s deleting me. Is she really going to delete me? No, I’ll shoot her a “lol” around midnight and she’s back into chasing mode. But a lot of guys will respond to that first txt and her next txt and try to cheer her up and make her not mad anymore etc. But I know it’s all just silly girl shit and she’ll be happy as soon as I give her a little attention.
But this is all just me. Different strokes for different folks. Some guys just want a long-term GF out of the game and that’s cool. Just make sure that the reason you want one is because she’s cool and you KNOW she’s high-quality and better than the rest, and not because you’re scared to be alone or tired of gaming.
If I met a girl who fuckin blew my mind, in and out of bed, was fun and unpredictable sharp and witty sexy as fuck loved cooking for me and dolling herself up daily and was all positive and happy and awesome 24/7 and made me think “wow, I don’t even WANT to go meet other girls, this one is amazing”, sure I’d probably settle down with her.
But unlike the guys who’ve been brainwashed by Disney to think that EVERY girl is that high quality and ignore all their faults, I have a more realistic view of how rare that magical unicorn is, and I’m not in a rush to find her cause this is all pretty fun lol
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I completely agree girlfriends hinder your goals. Typically I’ll tend to focus on my girl and not make my mission my main mission.
But honestly my mission takes up all my time (aka my mission is a pretty high status career). And I don’t have time to play games with 5 different girls really, and I also don’t know of a guy who has 5 hot fuck buddies(what? Woah). I get that’s it’s fun for you. But my goal is to have a hot hb 9 for the long haul aka her raising my kids. That will most likely not happen if I have 5 fuck buddies.
Don’t you eventually want to have kids raised by a two parent household at some point? I will always have abundance mentally and thus open/game girls but that is to ensure a healthy LTR.
I would say (for me and you) to play this game and get a harem until you’re ready to settle or whatever if that becomes a goal of yours.
I just don’t have much time to put all this work into getting a harem. But I am young and I realize it takes time. I also realize the older you get the bigger the harem
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Why isn’t Europe experiencing this kind of garbage? It’s completely infested with feminism, and yet you still don’t see these disgusting despicable heathens shoving food down their gullet like they’re a goddamn garbage disposer and attempting to justify it as some kind of progress, like you do here in America. I don’t get it. Is it the “muh freedumbs” culture or what?
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Whatever happens,
We have got
HFCS
And they do not.
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LOL!!!!!
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When I was last in Europe 5 years ago, I saw a fair number of fatties in south Germany and Austria. No way to hide that blubber at the pool or swimming in the lake, see. Not nearly as many as in parts of the US, but they are there.
Euros tend to walk more than USA’ns in many cities, because the street plan dates back to the days of ox carts. Possibly euros are not intaking as much high fructose corn syrup as USA’ns, and yeah that makes a difference.
Then there is dat debbil, genetics. Dump HFCS into someone who is part Mongolian-American (“Indian”) and don’t be surprised when their blood sugar takes off for the moon, ditto to a lesser extent with anyone who is part African.
Diet and genes and exercise. Anything else?
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Then there is dat debbil, genetics. Dump HFCS into someone who is part Mongolian-American (“Indian”) and don’t be surprised when their blood sugar takes off for the moon, ditto to a lesser extent with anyone who is part African.
Mexican obesity rates shot up since the U.S. started dumping HFCS on their market thanks to NAFTA, and are now poised to pass American obesity rates… go figure.
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Most Mexicans carry caucasian genes on the male side and mongolian ones on the female side. Several US universities have established diabetes research centers along the border because of the huge increase in Type II diabetes there. I remember when “Type II” was called “Adult Onset”.
Sometimes I wonder if Cargill and the other HFCS pushers aren’t part of Agenda 21.
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There are a lot of heavy girls in Germany in Austria in the 20 to 80 lbs overweight bracket, but it is still rare to see the giant whales you see in the US. A lot of the truly obese women I see seem to be Turkish, maybe they have the same genetic problems with European carbs that a lot of Asians and Native Americans have.
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You do in England. Flab, piercings and tattoos. And the princess attitude to match, WHILE being a disgusting, grotty, swearing, drunk whore.
Elsewhere in Europe, depends. Was surprised at how many healthy looking people there were in Finland. Saw like 2 fat people the entire time I was there.
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“Is it the “muh freedumbs” culture or what?”
According to the WHO it’s because Anglo countries aren’t scoialist paradises like the rest of Europe. *snort* Yeah right.
It’s probably a combination of HFCS and celtic/black/mestizo genetics.
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Please come visit the UK.
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Some countries in Europe are getting fat. In this country the explosion of fat came with the promotion of blackness, the whole Phil Donahue “why can’t white women be comfortable with their bodies like fat black women are”, as if black women weren’t plagued by a plethora of neuroses.
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JB,
Phil Donahue does have a point, in general about the difference in cultures. For example, if you are a black person that can sing well, your weight and/or appearance will NOT disqualify you from fame or a career…
But if you are a white person with a great voice, unless you look like a model white person, you will be rejected.
Its a tragedy because many talented white people never achieve their potential because they are too tuned into what other white people have deemed acceptable for white talent.
*Elvis was a hero to most*
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Someone upthread posted a link to the Bill Whittle vid on gaslighting, it’s worth viewing more than once. Because that’s what all this fat acceptance crap is – gaslighting. I once knew a woman in college who was so fat she had difficulty fitting into the standard student desk, it was remarkable. Nowadays there are many more of her. Anyway I was once present when she went on and on about glandular this and glandular that and how The Pill had contributed to her weight gain. Then a few weeks later there was an all-you-can-eat buffet at some local hotel, and she was there. She ate roughly twice the food that any of the men in the place put away, including a couple of cops and a recently returned Army vet.
The gland that was causing her the most trouble was her mouth, in more ways than one.
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well one thing abut drugs I guess the drug diet works
chicks come out jail fat orcas
month and half later thin
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I don’t judge men who date fat women. I just wonder how they get a hard for it. Scientific curiosity, that’s all.
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Asexual types, based on small-scale anecdotal evidence.
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If you have to open the spank bank in order to rise to the occasion, you might as well save some time and money and just fuck your hand.
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I was wondering this too. Sometimes I wish my dick was more liberal about the women it wants to fuck because it would make one’s life much easier. It must be awesome to actually like the way fat women look like considering how few men do and how many of them are in the West.
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“megafauna” – funny indeed.
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flensing knive…
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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I say Orca’s Razor also applies to a $1.5 million NIH probe into the causes of disproportionately high levels of obesity among lesbians. Are they fat because they’re lesbians or lesbians because they’re fat?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spend-15-million-study-why-lesbians-are-fat
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Because they don’t have to worry about attracting men. This is also why faggots are thinner than straight men.
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Or men don’t want them because they’re fat, so they settle for lesbian attachments with their own undesirable type.
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The blogger with most views in my country had an article about women in their 30s who rave about how great it is being a woman in her 30s somehow believing they are in Sex and The City. The hilarity is that a couple of women in their 30s whined and moaned in the comment section. Talking to single women in their 30s makes it quite clear to me that I will have to be able to seduce 18-24 years old women then too because women after that age are usually not only less good looking, but less pleasant to have around in general.
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[…] Most of you are familiar with Occam’s Razor, the principle that of two or more competing theories to explain a phenomenon, the simplest one is likely the true one. With a nod to Occam, CH introduces Orca’s Razor. […]
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There is no need to find an evolutionary explanation for why men aren’t attracted to 250 lb + women because for most of human history those women simply didn’t exist. Maybe they could be found in the occasional traveling circus in a few wealthy agricultural or early industrial societies over the past few thousand years, and that would have been it. I don’t think most men are even biologically programmed to recognize people that heavy as human, that’s part of the issue right there, they certainly don’t register as potential sex partners. Why am I not sexually interested in fat women? That is like asking why am I not sexually attracted to a woman with antlers growing out of her head.
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Whatever floats your boat. Don’t worry about what others think – it’s all about what gets you off, and you enjoy. Never limit yourself due to the hang-ups of others. If you like them big – go for it. Me, I like them small, and thin – very Non-PC to say so, but I’m the one plowing them, so all I care about is if I enjoy her and she turns me on.
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Hogzilla’s safety razor.
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Guess you’ve never read Veblen’s “The Theory of the Leisure Class.”
He posits that fat women are a status symbol in primitive cultures where food is scarce. The current fad for skinny women supposedly reflects that they are good for no hard work and so are pretty useless – only a man with significant surpluses could keep them as pets.
Young and plump works for me but still mobile and flexible. These are signs of fertility.
[CH: whatever that theory amounts to, it’s been thoroughly debunked by more recent research. ancient female figurines have been found with perfect waist-hip ratios and low BMIs.]
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Veblen’s 19th century critique of Kapitalism has not held up very well. Like many of the time, he assumed a lot about humans – including the blank slate fallacy – that has not proven true. His ideas have shown little predictive power.
Evolutionary psychology on the other hand does show predictive power and Game demonstrates that every day and night. Veblen’s thinking is simply out of date, it is not 1890.
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I’m pretty well convinced that most obesity in the U.S. is because of either a lack of specific knowledge about why we’re fat, or an unwillingness to tackle the issue using that specific knowledge.
We’ve been told a grandiose lie for well over thirty years: that dietary fat is bad for you and carbs are good for you. It’s only a lie if they knew it to be false information, otherwise it’s just a mistake, I hear you say. Fine, I’ll meet you halfway: the original fat vs. carbs studies were done in the Seventies, and try as they might, they could not establish a link between dietary fat and circulatory problems. So they simply “recommended” that we avoid fat because it makes sense, since fat contains more calories. Right?
Wrong. There is a certain percentage of the population for whom eating carbs never fills them up. Some of this may be genetic and some acquired, but either way, telling them to fill up on carbs and to avoid fat is to condemn them to a lot of unnecessary struggle.
Fat, on the other hand, is filling.
Many people, I believe, can lose thirty to forty pounds effortlessly simply by avoiding: sugar, bread, cookies, potatoes, rice, pasta, snack foods (except jerky or Slim Jims). I did. I have to watch the beer consumption, too, but most lite beers contain only 3 to 5 grams of carbs per bottle.
As I stated, this is largely a knowledge issue, and to believe in that knowledge, you have to swim against a strong current of authoritative disinformation. But read Gary Taubes. He gets it.
If I’m right, it means that many, if not most, of the plus-sized girls that this site so loves to hold in contempt are unnecessarily plus-sized. They’ve grown up in a society that tells them to fill up on carbs, when they are actually designed to gain weight on carbs.
After all, what do farmers feed cows they want to fatten up for market? Lard? Butter? Olive oil? Nope. They feed them nice, low-fat grain. We’re not that different from cows. Carbs make us fat too.
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