Commenter having a bad day writes,
one of the better things that i did to get confidence was to recognize the MANY IOIs that women are putting out all the time. women, especially young fertile (hot) women, ping their environment ALL the time. learn to recognize and encourage these, and it will build your confidence…you can also learn to spot these when they are thrown at other males in the environment…
note – it will also make you sort of depressed if you still hold any illusions regarding the nature of women. most of the ‘ping backs’ you will get are from women in ‘relationships’ (married or otherwise) with betas…sometimes (a lot actually) right in front of the guy’s nose…
This is true. The most obvious flirtations are often from women who are taken, and sometimes with their man present and accounted for! It’s less common to get aggressive flirts from single women.
My understanding of this aspect of female nature is:
1. Sublimated hypergamy. Women are always looking to trade up (whether they know it or not) and flirting while with someone comes more naturally to them.
2. Fishing for reassurance that she’s still attractive. Women in LTRs tend to discount the assurances they get from their partners as less valuable than the arousal they can inspire in strange men. The man she already snagged and who has invested in her is less trustworthy as a biased judge of her attractiveness.
Note that both reasons #1 and #2 are rendered null and void if the woman is in a relationship with an alpha male. (1: she won’t feel the urge to scope as much and 2. an alpha lover’s opinion of her remaining attractiveness is weighted more than a beta lover’s opinion.)
[…] Why Do Women Flirt More When They’re With Someone? […]
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Some unhinged Beta who couldn’t get laid [not joking] just murdered about seven people [not joking] in Santa Barbara:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3159649/posts
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Holy shit. That video is hard to watch, even for me. I know we’re not supposed to use this word, but … creeper! Spreading the good word about game truly is a mission of mercy.
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He’s the goddamned Scarecrow.
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UC Santa Barbara student Elliot Rodgers posts video on why he’s about to go on a shooting rampage in his BMW. Says it’s because he’s still a virgin due to chicks going for the brutes instead of him, a “supreme” gentleman.
Naturally, most news outlets are not giving the reason for the mass shooting.
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I don’t believe any of these stupid mass shootings. Pure psychological operations (staged events) by your friends the elites going all the way back to Columbine to start the ramp up of the police state. They know they have used the media and public “education” to turn women into unapologetic sluts for alphas and want to demonize any male who dare tell the truth as potential shooters about to go on a rampage. Possibly even promoters of game will be included on the list of being bitter at women and need to be rounded up and put in a FEMA camp. That video looks rehearsed and the things he said were so cliche. Also they say there is a second suspect? That is hallmark of a psychological operation. I guarantee you no second suspect will ever be talked about again. PURE BULLSHIT. By the way, even if they give names of people who were supposedly shot that is going to be bullshit as well. Research the Sandy Hoax incident. Just another day in Goebbels Germany.
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Bango Tango I thought that too. Quick let’s ban game.
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that laugh does seem fake then he travelled world and still virgin if he didn’t want to be bullshit
if your a virgin and don’t want to be get a ho
fuck her problem solved
hell save loot and get a ten for the first time
dude does look like he should be able to get a chick though
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save up the 26k and fuck an actress
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Portugal has arguably the most liberal laws concerning possession of illicit drugs in the Western world. In 2001 Portugal decriminalized possession of effectively all drugs that are still illegal in other developed nations including, but not limited to, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and LSD. While possession is legal, trafficking and possession of more than “10 days worth of personal use” are still punishable by jail time and fines. Since decriminalization was implemented, Portugal has seen rapid improvement in the number of deaths from drug overdoses as well as a decline in new HIV infections”””””””””’
no suicide data for last year wtf
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This one in Santa Barbara apparently has strong Hollyweird connections via his parents.
The Frankfurt School will sweep that under the rug just like they covered up the fact that Adam Lanza had sodomite child molestation porn on his computer:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/sandy-hook-killer-had-movie-depicting-manboy-relationship-his-pc
There’s even a rumor out there that Lanza’s psychiatrist was a known child molester.
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All of these mass murderers are Leftists.
If you have spent any time on a college campus in the last decade or two, and if you have overheard Leftists when they are speaking honestly amongst themselves, then you will have heard this Darkness being expressed over and over and over again.
The only difference is that most Leftists can keep their shit together just enough to FAKE being normal – these boys are the ones who can’t contain all of those Dark evil emotions – the ones who act on the Dark impulses, rather than merely fantasizing about them.
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The only thing stopping The Frankfurt School from slaughtering us, in Holdomor The Sequel, is our Second Amendment RKBA.
Which is why their most distinguished rabbis, like Doomberg of NYC, are working so hard to destroy the Second Amendment.
And, in classical Frankfurt School fashion, they’ll take both sides of the issue – they’ll bemoan the slaughter, but conveniently omit the fact that it was one of their own doing the slaughtering – and at the same time, they’ll maneuver to use the slaughter to undermine the Second Amendment to the point that they [and their militarized Praetorian Guards] emerge from it all with a monopoly on the ability to wield weaponry.
Heads they win, tails we lose.
You simply cannot misunderestimate the depths of their Evil.
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The tragedy of mystery meat. No loser, it isn’t society, it’s you.
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I will also note another phenomenon. If you are out with a girl, other girls will give you way more IOIs, especially 8+’s who are out dateless that night, especially if your date is a notch or two below you! I had this happen around 2 years ago. I went out with a 5 or 6 (hey, I needed release). As soon as we walked down the street, a gaggle of 8’s walk out of a restaurant and start eyeing me, and looking my date up and down in a demeaning way. Then we grabbed a drink later on and the same thing happened in the bar.
My reasoning for why that happened: 8+’s sometime shit a dry spell (usually just logistics, similar to frictional unemployment). But they feel really low about being out without a date. They see a girl beneath them strolling down the street with a man they consider bangable. They have to prove out the hierarchy. By eyeing me up, they force me to revel in their attention – which my date sees. Also, they have to do th sup and down “you aint’t shit” look to my date to drive the point home.
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I have always thought that the women think they are safe from any attemp from the man. A safe ego trip.
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i can assure you they (taken women) are not playing it safe. and brotherhood of mankind aside, passing up all the free already-attached ass out there is something you ought to regret all of your days.
no one is more hungry and depraved than a bored housewife with satisfaction finally within reach.
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passing up all the free already-attached ass out there is something you ought to regret all of your days.
Hahahahahaha. True. Any hot chick you run into will have a “boyfriend”.
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I’m not gonna disagree with anything that you guys have written, but God damn it, please don’t do that shit to one of your home boyz.
There’s a special place in Hell for dudes who ruin their best friends’ families.
Hell, I wouldn’t even do it once the couple had had children.
Think of those poor kids growing up in a broken family because some damned sociopath couldn’t resist the urge to poke a little married tail, and then the kids’ Dad found out about it.
That’s some tragic shit right there.
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ZS, I was referring to women with boyfriends and no kids, but whatever.
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i appreciate a good piece of ass as much as the next guy but this is the kind of bullshit that helps to perpetuate the evil that is the modern american woman.
i’m not criticizing you. i’ve been there, done that. i’m now seeing the error of my ways and hope to help you see this is in a new light.
first off, i think it’s only the classic beta provider types like me and you that get involved with these types of girls. men don’t usually want to share their women with anyone under any circumstances so women like this aren’t even an option for most men. you don’t see a lot of men volunteering to be someone’s side action. we call women who do that mistresses, there is no equivalent word for men and there’s probably a reason for that. that’s just my personal opinion but i think it deserves consideration.
so we beta provider types get sucked in while these bored housewives tell us sob stories of how neglected and unhappy they are with their boring beta husbands and we fall for it hook line and sinker. they stroke our egos and make us feel like heroes (classic knight and shining armor syndrome) or we feel superior and alpha in comparison to their pathetic husbands because these women seem powerless to resist our charms. but it isn’t about us. they are just lying cheaters who are only bored and unsatisfied because they are shitty at being good girlfriends wives and mothers.
they are just using us to entertain themselves and feed their egos. they don’t fantasize about leaving their husbands and families for us. not really. they don’t think we’re special or better than their husbands. don’t kid yourself, we could be the mailman and these women will open their legs for us.
i used to feel on top of the world when i locked down some other guy’s chick. it was a major ego boost. i would laugh at their boyfriends and husbands. i’d tell myself they wouldn’t be cheating if these guys would step up and be real men like me. that’s how i justified it. but i can’t do that kind of shit anymore.
maybe you have to get cheated on like me to change your mind but now i feel utter disgust towards women like that and i feel a kinship with the husbands that they betray. i guess that’s the brotherhood you mentioned.
i’m not judging you but we have to stick together if we want things to change and if you’re still doing that shit, you’re doing exactly what their evil cheerleader friends do. you’re giving these attention whores what they want. you’re sending them a signal that they are special little angels who deserve better when they don’t. they are failing as women. so you get your rocks off and they go home and treat their kids and husbands worse than ever because they feel empowered and special. that is wrong on so many levels.
stick to girls who are unattached is all i can say. it’s a lot easier on the mind and the conscience.
cheers
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“I have always thought that the women think they are safe from any attemp from the man. A safe ego trip.”
Depends on what you mean by “flirting”. Sometimes my thinking is this: if I’m with someone, I can be friendly with a guy/guys without worrying it will be misconstrued.
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I think that’s true. Some flirting is hypergamous but not all of it. Flirting is natural for women so having a safety net allows them to let down their guard. When they flirt with men outside the safety net of a relationship, they risk having men come on to them but if they are in a relationship with someone and everyone knows about it, they can do this without the same risk and still get the ego boost they are looking for.
They also might do this as a tactic to prove worthiness to their partner if they are with an alpha male who they want to impress.
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Yeah this is true. I look around when I have a beta boyfriend but when I have an alpha one, every other guy in the world might as well be non existent. I don’t care about them at all.
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“Note that both reasons #1 and #2 are rendered null and void if the woman is in a relationship with an alpha male.”
Thing is, once you acquiesce to a relationship, you essentially stop being the alpha male. In comparison to other betas you’ll be fine, but when a shiny new alpha toy comes within her grasp (especially if there are other women vying for him), your relationshit is toast.
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“Thing is, once you acquiesce to a relationship, you essentially stop being the alpha male. ”
no. i think you are missing a big point here…’alpha’ is just bio arousal and attraction cues. if you keep those bio triggers going off, it doesn’t matter if you have a relationshit or not…you’re still alpha…
the rest of your point is a good one though. even if you are alpha, a woman will still seek the ‘new, shiny’ bc of bio repro strategy benefits. if she can get seed from two (or more) alphas, her genes have an even better chance of surviving…
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What do you know? Have you successfully maintained a marriage and stayed alpha?
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@anonymous
“What do you know? Have you successfully maintained a marriage and stayed alpha?…”
yep…
all thanks to this site and the related outposts…
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“Thing is, once you acquiesce to a relationship, you essentially stop being the alpha male. In comparison to other betas you’ll be fine, but when a shiny new alpha toy comes within her grasp (especially if there are other women vying for him), your relationshit is toast.”
The 2nd part of what you said is my biggest fear with women. If ever I fall in love or really like one specific girl and get her. All it would take is any alpha male she is she is curious about or that is attracted to her to come along and I will get cheated on. Of course since I’m a beta, you know it’s most likely to happen. 😦
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“If ever I fall in love or really like one specific girl and get her.”
Well, don’t do that. You’re setting yourself up for failure. There is no such thing as “love”, it is just an unhealthy attachment. Attachment is the root of all misery.
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Attachment is hardwired. Why fight it? Men and women are meant to get attached to one another, to varying degrees. I’d say a lack of self-control is the root of all misery. Like what’s-his-face said — the true test of alpha is when you do love her? Can you still walk away when she violates the integrity of your relationship?
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I second what cryo says. Don’t do that. Don’t believe in fairy tales that will never have a happy ending. As you already know she will never say no to an offer from a real alpha that puts in any type of pursuit. Evolution demands that she spread her legs for his superior alpha seed even if she has “feelings” for you. God that has to be one of the worst positions to be in as a man. Don’t be that guy.
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> There is no such thing as “love”, it is just an unhealthy attachment. Attachment is the root of all misery.
Love is a dung heap, and I am but a cock who climbs upon it to crow. -Archibald Cunningham
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You can remain alpha in a marriage. Extreme example: Pitcher for the Diamondbacks named Brandon McCarthy. His wife’s still a 9, and the two of them are absolutely hilarious on twitter. But if you watch them, generally he’s playful, sometimes, if she’s sick or whatever, he’ll be extremely supportive, and sometimes he lays the hammer down on her. Meanwhile, she’s obviously incredibly devoted to him, and they’ve been together since I think high school.
I don’t set my life by them, more of AL fan in any case, but the two are very entertaining.
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“Attachment is the root of all misery.”
Watch this conversation between an alpha and a beta, with emphasis on the 1 minute mark.
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Heat is one of my favorite movies and a great source of inspiration. It was one of the last films ever made about MEN and how to walk the path. And as demonstrated at the end of the film, that path necessarily leads to being alone.
The words Swag So Fresh refers to: “Don’t let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.”
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That “ok” from Bobby D just drips with contempt….
À bientôt,
Mistral
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Excellent clip…awesome movie…. Also the quote about attachment from the Buddah such true stuff.
Much easier said than done though.
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This
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wow, that was a quick turnaround. i barely finished typing that…lol…
if she’s with an alpha, his ‘opinion’ on her attractiveness is reinforced every time they do it…bc he COULD be out with someone else…lol…her hypergamy is also satisfied just by being with an alpha, so her reptilian brain isn’t actively ‘pinging’ her surroundings…
conversely, every time a girl hooks up with her beta, her reptilian brain just makes a note to ping her environment extra hard the next possible chance it gets…lol…
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I tried to post this yesterday and it got stuck in the stack. I am going to try here again. lol
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Nope didn’t make it got stuck again. Oh well maybe it will show up later.
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@HABD awesome point and I actually had just made a short update on the previous post but it never made it. But on my business trip I was in a city with a large latin community and was doing a professional lunch with a 45YOBrazillian married MILF. About a 6 head and a smokin body. Dont have to tell anyone about the legendary Brazilian ass. She was very well put together. So here we are having lunch she is paying and it was on. Lots of flirting touching and sexy eye contact. Nothing happened no logistics and I had to catch a plane. And I have to be careful she is married. Got to let her know I am discreet. But man the tension was there. When I left we talked about me coming down to visit. And later I texted her to tell her I had a great time and look forward to seeing her again. Her text back was she really enjoyed it too and she wants me to call her when I am in town. I may have me a new plate here. Not really my target age but the game opportunity is great and her sexiness was really high.
On the approach front I have a little news. A very little news but its a start. Three approaches keep in mind I am starting from zero here so here goes.
1. Cute a 7 probably 23 or so at airport I set up in the chairs across from her and did some eye contact and smiling she and I were both on the phone. So it took me some time to get up the nerve to speak but eventually I did. Asked her some basic stuff. Talked a little. Went ok but never really went anywhere. Just practicing. But I got it over with. It sure makes sense to talk to them immediately instead of waiting.
2. On the way home today was in the security line at ariport with a very cute 8 35ish black haired Russian chick. We got to talking about travel and stuff. Best approach and she was also the most receptive. Very friendly. Never went anywhere but once again getting my feet wet.
3. Another 7 latina maybe 22 YO. Had a wedding ring on but she was receptive. Just basic small talk. Very nice smile. None of these went anywhere. As I said getting used to approaching. Airport is good for approach logistics are not good because most people are going somewhere else.
But one other note. Some of the areas I do business in have very large latin populations. Man that is some good pussy. And they love to be admired by men.
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@reco
good job on the approaching…were you watching for IOI pings?
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@HABD thanks brother. I am just learning to crawl. As far as IOI pings I need to know more about that. I believe they showed interest but I am not sure.
Any ideas or reference material you have would be awesome.
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OK I am going to try this again and just chop up the post I put in here yesterday. Lets see if this works. lol
@CH damn these last couple of posts have been pure gold. No one can ever say that the Chateu does not produce a shit ton of quality content. Right on for the brotherhood.
@HABD awesome point and I actually had just made a short update on the previous post but it never made it. But on my business trip I was in a city with a large latin community and was doing a professional lunch with a 45YOBrazillian married MILF. About a 6 head and a smokin body. Dont have to tell anyone about the legendary Brazilian ass. She was very well put together. So here we are having lunch she is paying and it was on. Lots of flirting touching and sexy eye contact. Nothing happened no logistics and I had to catch a plane. And I have to be careful she is married. Got to let her know I am discreet. But man the tension was there. When I left we talked about me coming down to visit. And later I texted her to tell her I had a great time and look forward to seeing her again. Her text back was she really enjoyed it too and she wants me to call her when I am in town. I may have me a new plate here. Not really my target age but the game opportunity is great and her sexiness was really high.
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Just got a new update on the 33yo prude. After 7 days of radio silence she has reappeared. She sent me a short text today “hey darling”. I have not responded. I am holding tight. And nothing from the 40yo nurse. Not expecting anything right away from her.
So should I just continue to stay silent?
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“Women in LTRs tend to discount the assurances they get from their partners as less valuable than the arousal they can inspire in strange men. The man she already snagged and who has invested in her is less trustworthy as a biased judge of her attractiveness.”
Yes, being Alpha renders this null and void. But aspiring Alphas should take note: the route to Alpha requires earning her trust that your assurances, or lack of assurances about her attractiveness are valid (or invalid). Just another reason not to blow smoke up her ass. Prime example – If she’s gained weight, and she asks you if she has (which she already knows the answer is yes), better find a tactful way of saying ‘*Yes*, you have gained weight. Work on that, please…’
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Prime example – If she’s gained weight, and she asks you if she has (which she already knows the answer is yes), better find a tactful way of saying ‘*Yes*, you have gained weight. Work on that, please…’
“Yeah, you’re getting a bit chunky there, and it’s uncool.” She may piss and moan, but fat shaming is the only thing that works.
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Tactfully fuck a thinner chick and make sure she tactfully finds out about it.
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“If you’re asking, you already know…” She will be *way* tougher on herself than you will be. Let her do the work. 😉
If she whines that you’re mean or that she can’t workout as much b/c of ____, then drop “Excuses don’t burn calories.”
À bientôt,
Mistral
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You can just see the divorce metastasizing in her mind as the MIA husband follows behind tending to the sprog. A woman is either married in her
heartvagina or she’s not. Husbandry is frame control. Dickless government fucks her good halfway. Such prizes. Dread game is necessary to cock block daddy gov, but have an exit plan if you must enter a relationship. You are no political alpha.LikeLike
Long ago, I took to wearing a wedding ring when I travel alone since it tends to up the number of women that I can chat up, and who end up coming back to my place. They aren’t looking for anything permanent, so it’s ideal for ONS’s. I learned to put it on for the plane ride since more than once I’ve ended up having to spend the night when a connecting plane gets grounded, and for some reason women (especially the married ones) get hot and horny when things like that happen. I’m sure someone has done a study on it, but I’ve never seen any “reason” for it, other than empirical observation.
But I stopped asking “why” long ago – the fact that it happens and I can use it to my benefit is all that matters to me.
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I need the remedial class on IOIs (or maybe a list of examples), because I’m the worst at spotting them in the moment. I
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Some examples of IOIS (Indicators of Interest)
The girl does one or more of the following
1.) Smiles and looks at you a lot.
2.) Touches you quite a bit. (Touching on forearm, upper arm, etc. Finding any excuse to make contact.)
3.) She gets “anime eyes” (That’s when every time a girl who likes you like she’s in love. People’s eyes tend to dilate when they see someone they’re attracted to. Meaning they’re eyes temporarily get bigger, hence the the term anime eyes, b/c anime characters usually have big eyes. lol)
4.)Her voice goes up a notch when she sees and talks to you. (I’ve had a few girls do this. It would be like they talk to someone else and it’s like “Hey, what’s up. Then they come to you and they’re like, “Heyyyyyy, how are you? This is b/c the girl gets excited to see you.)
5.) She indicates that she misses you or missed you. (This kind of goes hand in hand with number 4.) ie. I talked to the girl I liked at Cirque that worked with me only like twice during the first week at work. I missed the second week at work b/cI had to go out of state for a funeral. I thought she would forget all about me and I would have to start all over again. But, when I came back a week later, she saw me talking to my friend, she came over and touched me on the upper arm and said… “Heyyyyy, I haven’t seen you in a while.” I only spoke to her like twice and very little before that, but she seemed to remember the playful and energetic rapport we had.
6.) She plays with her hair while smiling at you. (I’ve seen a few women do this when a guy they like is talking to them. It’s like the girls that do this almost do it unconsciously.)
That’s just some of the IOIS my friend. (And I talked to her a lot more, asked her out, got the number and went on a great fun date with her.) Which of course, was a big step forward for me, since I’m more reserved and beta, but I took more chances and was more bold with her than I had been with any girl before. Poon Commandment XIII. “Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little” is definitely spot on. Here’s a link about IOIS from RSD. (Real Socia Dynamics.)
http://www.rsdnation.com/node/96718
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3.)She gets “anime eyes” I meant to say (That’s when every time a girl who likes you LOOKS at you like she’s in love.
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Here’s my post about IOI’s: http://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/is-she-into-you-indicators-of-interest/
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Interesting story Anonymous and you may have a point. I love this post topic b/c I was thinking about this the other day. A couple of weeks ago I was working at my Cirque du Soleil temp job. While I was on the register, a sexy 8.5 white girl walked in with her bf arm in arm. I just smiled at both of them and greeted them, but couldn’t help to look at his gf a lot. (They weren’t arm in arm anymore.) And his gf and I started talking about random small stuff and she was smiling at me a lot. And before I fully realized it, we were flirting right in front of him. And I was thinking, “Oh shit, I don’t want to get into a fight” So I tried to pretend to be gay and smile at her bf and ask him how he was doing. He literally said nothing to me or his gf and he didn’t seem jealous or butthurt by me talking with his girl.
Another thing I noticed was that his girlfriend was very mean/rude to him. She said some rude comment to him, blatantly flirted with me in front of him. Then when I gave the girl her total, which consisted of things she bought only for herself, she said, “I can’t seem to find my card. You have a card, you pay for it.” Then her bf busts out his credit card and pays for it. Then she takes out her own wallet and says, “Oh, here’s my card.” I just looked at her like damn, you knew what you were doing the whole time. The point I was also trying to make is that sometimes you can tell the difference of WHY a girl is flirting with you, if you just look at the dynamics between her and her boyfriend. (How they treat each other or more importantly HOW she treats him.)
This 8.5 babe was VERY nice to me, but a bitch to her bf. This guy was literally like ice, he didn’t react or get mad or anything. So I had a hard time figuring out if he was a beta or if he was secretly an alpha male. Then they just walked away and went into the show tent. And I just thought to myself, “She’s fine as hell, but she’s not worth it.” I kind of got the impression that she thinks she is the shit and can attract any guy she wants. And that her bf should be thankful she’s with him. And if ever he speaks out about how poorly she treats him, she’ll just leave him or threaten to do so. You could clearly see she is the dominant one in the relationship. (And no I don’t mess with other people’s girlfriends and was wrong for flirting with her.)
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If they’re arm-in-arm when they walk in to a store, he’s a mate-guarding beta.
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The way this guy fell for the lost debit card trick screams beta. He’s stone cold and ignoring her flirting just because he doesn’t have the balls to do anything about it.
Somebody with more balls would probably take it out on you for flirting with “his” girl, and that’s probably the most dangerous scenario.
A lot of people would say the true alpha would just next her instantly, but in the real world you don’t just take a dog you like and shoot it in the head for shitting on the carpet. You try to discipline the dog first.
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to me the credit card trick caps it off as a power move. context is everything.
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@blogster You think it’s a power move, but isn’t she already the one in charge and wearing the pants in the relationship? Or do you just mean her pressing her advantage over him in that one particular situation?
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haha, they don’t stop just because they’re with an alpha male, they just don’t make overt cues to threaten their position of rising in status via a quality mate.
always scoping for the bigger fish. seeing if any challengers are poised to overthrow the leader of the pack.
always making sure they’re hot. it isn’t enough that a high value dude bangs them out; odds are that means she’s a looker. she isn’t going to turn that off just because its working right now, gotta make sure she’s cooking with gas so she can have the hand in the relationship and spin her own plates when needbe.
look at chick crack romance novels. jane eyre shit. it isn’t about just nabbing the alpha and submitting, its about finding the high value dude and breaking him in the ways they find suitable. unlike fiction where you can just end the story there, the hypergamy hamster keeps spinning
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The Alpha can next a girl whenever he feels like because he has other options due to his high value.
That’s why the female protagonist you mention can only hope to divert the Alpha, if she is lucky, it won’t happen in reality because he will next a girl who shit tests him too hard.
Look at the Alpha male in contemporary female literature, eg: 50 Shades, he dominates the fuck out of his woman and millions of ginas tingle.
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Nah braj one of my sluts reads that shit while waiting for the D and apparently the dude is a giant pussy beneath his capitalist baller identity.
from, apparently its wiki “Christian finds himself broken by Ana leaving him. But soon after they’re unable to deny their feelings for each other and the two rekindle their sensual affair. Christian, desperate to keep Ana in his life, wrestles with his inner demons.”
+ mommy issues and all kinds of shit. its the same trope over and over.
alpha dude gets slut wet, she becomes main bitch, finds the chinks in his emotional armor and drives the shiv into it such that he literally needs her to function
once again unlike the fiction you don’t happily ever after the end. either they win and break you or you drive them mad with your inability to yield to feels
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“once again unlike the fiction you don’t happily ever after the end. either they win and break you or you drive them mad with your inability to yield to feels”
This should be Comment of the Year right here. I tried to express the same point earlier in these comments, albeit in a much wordier and contrived manner. All relationships between men and women are doomed to some extent.
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@ballocaust THIS!!! and @Trev. That was a very insightful comment. I never thought about it like that.
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Some of you guys talk about alphalpha like its a superpower. Just being in a relationship with her automatically lowers your status in her eyes..
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“Just being in a relationship with her automatically lowers your status in her eyes..”
Not if she thinks you’ll walk away at any moment, cause or no cause. When your participation in the relationship is not dependent on her or her behavior, but your own whims, she has no power and will strive tirelessly to win your ever elusive approval.
Cultivate an atmosphere of impending doom and watch her melt into the pool of her own tingle juice.
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yeah this is 21st century fact. if you’re doing more than meeting for drinks, pounding and sending on the way you immediately reek of beta stank in their eyes.
having had to endure numerous walks of shame by this point in their lives, anything else demonstrates the weakness of feels beyond “gimmie that hole and get out”
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“Just being in a relationship with her automatically lowers your status in her eyes..” Oh the irony!!! In order to prove you are an alpha and that you’re high value to a girl, you usually have to be able to seduce them and/or into a relationship. And yet the girl could possibly see you being with her in a relationship with her as DLV. I’m not sure if that is true, but it sure does sound conflicting. Once again, women want two opposing traits in a man. Just like how they want the alpha male who can attract many different girls. They’re attracted to him b/c of that and yet when they get that guy, they expect him to be only committed to her. You do see the paradox in this right? Women always wanting to exact opposing sides of a man.
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Typo. Meant to type “two” opposing traits in a man. Not to.
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@ nigel
Relates to the menstrual cycle, too lazy to dig up Rollo’s breakdown.
Wanting an alpha with valuable seed for impregnation, beta for sticking around raising it.
Hence in chick crack life the idea is to stop a goodseed alpha from running away after impregnation by employing trickery other than having a fertile womb to drop a load into. Probably a secondary nature of shit-tests, other than proving value to the woman, is to create a fabrication of a worthy challenge to occupy (or delude) the guys left brain
Push comes to shove (in welfare/high social cooperativity state), and as demonstrated by 60+ yrs of birth control distorting biomechanics, they’ll settle for the 5 min of alpha
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“she isn’t going to turn that off just because its working right now, gotta make sure she’s cooking with gas so she can have the hand in the relationship and spin her own plates when needbe. ”
She doesn’t want hand. She hates hand and the disastrous way she wields it. If a relationship is going to work she needs to be washing plates not spinning them.
She wants to score so far out of her league that she’s in perpetual awe and fear of her alpha.
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Why do salesgirls proffer their cleavage when I am with ForeignBride?
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They’re offering a sample.
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Or promoting a sale. When we shopped for a wedding ring in Saigon my god how the lovely girls laid their perfect tits on the counter. Unusual for me I took considerable time evaluating the rings.
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What would be the best response if you catch your GF flirting in a subtle way with another guy? Call her out (agree and amplify) or just ignore it?
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That is a good question, I guess it depends on the scenario. I hope someone answers that question soon here. B/c they both sound like good options that don’t show any butthurtness.
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if it’s mild-moderate, ignore.
then flirt with other chicks. Don’t make it obvious that it’s tit for tat – you want to always be flirting with other girls in front of her regardless of the dynamic between you two. If you don’t flirt with other chicks, then do so in response – it will register in her mind either overtly or subliminally as butthurt.
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Tell her you’re leaving and just do it. Don’t explain yourself, she knows why.
Basically, she lost access to your dick by wandering off the plantation.
Ignore her texts and calls until she offers a genuine apology. If she doesn’t, it was never going to work anyway. Keep her in rotation as an occasional lay.
That’s my take on it anyway, I’m sure others have more detailed responses full of PUA jargon and whatnot. The core idea is not to chase her when she provokes jealousy, because any attention is good attention to a female.
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They are just creatures.
Enforce the law.
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Go flirt with another girl. Hoist her by her own petard. It’ll be like taking away all her toys. Girls who pull sh*t to make you jealous are way jealous themselves.
À bientôt,
Mistral
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Don’t even use or think in language like “having a girlfriend”. Understand that no girl is your friend, they are a temporary amusement like a clown (if they have a cute personality) and a nice wet hole. Really any thinking of them outside of these terms is purely beta, sorry.
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making the sale : LTR psychology :: clever lines : dread game
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A million urban white girls wept
https://www.facebook.com/topic/Tupac-Shakur/105691109465266?source=whfrt&position=1&query_id=-1
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/suburban
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I flirt with taken women all the time. I think the actual explanation for why they do it is….because it feels good. Aka the reason behind 99.9% of female behavior.
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You’re right about that CK. Sometimes the most basic answers are the truth.
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Fun for them, fun for us, as long as our boundaries are respected, no problem.
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I’ve got a comment in moderation but in short, I am noticing I am frequently getting flirted with (without initiating) by women with boyfriends either directly in front of them or one on one when they are very awkard and blurt out “i have a boyfriend”. What does it mean in this context?
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Unrelated note — I highly recommend everyone here check out 50 shades of grey. It’s a perfect first-person stream of consciousness account of what a girl thinks and feels when a man is running top notch game on her.
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Did you just arrive on the planet? 50 shades of ghey has been discussed here thousands of times
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But it is very hard to read because it’s so badly written.
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Badly written by a fat english pig who cares more about remodeling her kitchen than pleasing a man.
Don’t listen to what women say/write about relationships and definitely don’t waste your time reading twilight fan fiction made popular by unfuckable housewives.
Read vonnegut instead.
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OR..you could just live 50 shades of grey..i prefer the sex-slave genre
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What about #3 – They’re shit-testing their bloke, to try and see if he does something about it, (or more likely, whether he remains aloof and does not).
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It could well have been a swinger.
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Yeah. I suspect I had one of those a couple of months ago. I was at a hotel full of travellers where they had organised a trivia night for guests. A cute, compact blonde age 21 with nice boobs but prone to saying dumb things was the MC. We were put on tables in teams and turns out her boyfriend was on the same table.
I was making friends on the table and was dominating the quiz. On one “who am I?” question, I answered straight after the birth and death date was given. She practically gushed at this and then blurted out, “has anyone told you you look like Brad Pitt?” I said, “you are the 5th person today”. She giggled again. This was not 10 feet from her boyfriend. He was not sure what to do.
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If you had Five Guys Burgers and Fries in England it could be Five Blokes.
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Nah, it’d still be Five Guys, since they burn Guy Fawkes effigies over there.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Moment of alpha:
I was out to eat with my brother and a friend this evening, wearing my signature short running shorts and tanktop. My legs are built, and I work them.
As we were paying up front, and table full of moms and daughters were taking pictures of me and snickering to each other.
We leave the restaurant, I walk up to their window, tap on the glass, and Shake my ass at all of them with a shit-eating grin.
Faces brightened up, a legion of labia let loose, and a tidal wave of nether region liquids turned the Steak n’ Shake booths into Slip n’ Slides.
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Haha. Nice one, some people might of gotten insecure when the girls were snickering. Instead, you take action and do something silly to show them they’re not getting under your skin.
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hahahhahahahahahaha
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Nice. A situation is only “awkward” if you allow it to be.
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My brother’s girlfriend also hates me, so I think she pointed out the photo-takers as a shit test.
One that I blew out of the water.
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Women who are already taken do not care for the man, just to be with a man that meets her minimum expectations and caters to her insecurities. She’s just a blatant ho – enough said.
But if you learn jihad game, your bitches will flock to you as you threaten to ‘put a jihad on their ass’ for the minor of transgressions.
Remember. A jihad a day keeps your bitch in place.
And mossad did 9/11.
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This is why “oppressive patriarchies” existed and need to exist and will exist again. Dictatorship is coming, and it’ll diminish this problem down to a very manageable level. You are miserable because you are free.
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when the chick and her dude were here she didn’t flirt more but yea the I love you’s were freaky cause didn’t tell me em before
so I guess more than mere flirting some hard core flirting
so I don’t know maybe she was trying to do the you and him fight thing
or maybe she got jealous cause me and her dude hit it off lol and she got no attention from either of us just went into servant mode
and me and him talked and she didn’t input anything into the conversation
except asking if we wanted something to eat or refill
there was no tension between me and him
he asked me if I fish when he was leavin so maybe I got a new buddy i’m cool with that
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I also don’t love his chick I really really like her and she hot an she has done it all from washing my balls in shower to feeding me at table in resteraunts but yea never fell in love
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and when she said I love you of course I didn’t say I love you back he he he
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“But yea never fell in love”
@gunslingergregi, I gotta ask you, do you think the reason you never fell in love before had to do with the red pill? Or is it something else? B/c I’ve heard that after some guys have fully taken the red pill and accept true female nature, they don’t feel love exists. Or that they can fall in love.
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I been in love 4 times in my love life told three chicks I love em an meant it
i’m just not in love with the chick i’m talking about in this instance here
I am in love with my girl that is in jail right now and has lived with me last three and half months
it usually takes multiple woman till I find one that has the qualities that make me fall in love with one of them and yea I feel like I could find another woman to fall in love with it would just take meeting a bunch of dif ones till I find another one right for me
just 4 hours after my chick was gone this chick called me and came up to see me and she acts so happy to see me it really takes some of the edge off the one I really love not being there
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the chick in this instance knows I don’t love her
I told her I love her as a friend I really like her
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we have a good time when we go out
but not as good a time as when I go out with the chick I love then its on another level
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this also chick I was drunk as fuck with prob close to 80 shots and she said I hate white boys and then proceeded to try to kill us or me by wrecking my truck into a metal light pole
so maybe she is pretty fun on another level
she is second tier for sure but above every other chick here except my girl
and a chick that disappeared
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actually kind of freaky that every chick I kind of like ends up disapearing
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except for one I love and this chick they always around
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moral to story I guess is be prepared for any chick you fuck with that has a dude for that dude to come to your door
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Oooh, I understand what you meant now. You just mean you’re not in love with this chick. And yeah, that’s the reason I don’t mess with other people’s gfs, fiances or wives. Not trying to get in unnecessary fights or get killed. There’s too many good looking single women out there for me to pursue one that is already taken. And most likely girls that are taken will never like or love you as much as their current significant other. So, what’s the point?
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Beta male rage is more of a problem than worrying about alphas, because beta males fight over women. Women fight over alpha males.
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but yea even the toughest dude can get fucked up by kids
I brought up my son it hurt the dude bad cause he lost his kids
he like lets not talk about kids
so alpha not alpha the kid shit hurts dudes
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you can pop out kids with a chick like zombie says but if you ain’t with em its gonna tear you up
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realistically she looks a little bit better than my girl too kind of weird my girl makes up for that in other way like I think the compassion she has in her for others
she might rob people but then she spends a good percentage of the money on her kids
when she got tax return money 25 percent went to kids which is prob more than most chicks do
for easter all the money she had in her name went to the kids
except for movie I had talked about wanting to see while back wolf of wallstreet that never played in theatres around here when it came out to be rented she put it on one day for me with her money I was pleasantly surprised that she remembered
sometimes its the little things that really make big diference
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25 percent went to her 50 percent to me and the house and us
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my girl prettier putty though its pretty much perfect
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and thinking about my girl bent over it is perfect
my dick just jumped thinking about it
sometimes I just tell her bend over an stay like that that and she looks back at me he he he
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see all the times talkin bout other chick my dick didn’t do shit talk about my girl bending over he jumped
yea we know who really in love with her lol
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im gonna let her read this shit when she get out lol
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she thought her 30 pages was a lot about me jesus
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said she mailed me a self addressed stamped envelope with pencil in it to write her letter and put my cologne and dick in it
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dam my heartrate up getting hot god dang looking forward to the meetup
stomach warm and fuzzy he he he
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ok so imam try an experiment i’m gonna try to treat fucking her like a job cause I know the shit gonna slow down but i’m gonna fucking do 8 hours a day of sex shit and see what the results are
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although maybe not 8 hours I did eat her pussy for 4 hours before 69n and I got up after and passed the fuck out so maybe If that happens ill take a break
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then I fucked her for two straight days before
no sleep
but I hate that the moment of that slips
how do ya keep it
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP THAT
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its like she keepin up her end while with me and being a good woman and taking care of me and house and fucking ends up sneaking up on me and sucking my toe to get some affection
she told me she couldn’t handle me having a job cause she couldn’t stand to be away from me for that long each day
but wtf I always stop on the attention and shit
it creeps up like getting fat
start spending too much time on comp cause I don’t know how to make the balance
I guess the off on shit does work cause there is always the passion in beginning
how do I keep it
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maybe she just more evolved than me and understands how to make those moments better and to grab em
and to let obsession form in being away
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So gregi, is the girl you’re in love with, that’s in jail, there for robbing people? Or were you just playing around? I know it’s kind of personal, but I’m curious what she got locked up for. If you don’t want to answer, just tell me to fuck off. lol.
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she went to jail to get off drugs she got the power to not be there
but yea picked up on bench warrant fines
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she used to go in store and rob the shit out of It
she didn’t get caught though
only time she was stopped by security one time dude was hitting on her asking for number
but yea she stopped doing that shit a long time ago when I told her not to
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so really I guess she could be contributing more monetarily i’m just a prude he he he
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fines were for sitting on a churches steps got trespassing cause the church don’t want chicks hanging out there
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its what happens when ya get in system normally she would just turn in a drug dealer and get out in 2 hours like the time she was arrested with me two hours later back out knockin on my door
this time she stayed in cause she knows she needs help getting clean and I don’t quite have the balls to kidnap her for real and lock her in my basement like she dreams of
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real life ain’t like the movies nobody has killed her for turning them in
all the bitches around here snitch
another reason to be the most alpha dude you can be
they don’t get snitched on
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so to create a snitch they do the bs trespassing charge give them fine then they know they not paying fine issue bench warrant
then they pick em up knowing they got drug shit on em
got em by the cunthairs somewhat cause they sure as fuck don’t want to go jail and go through withdrawal
so then they use them to turn a dude in and can put in paper they busted another drug dealer
without actually doing too much work on their part
another part not like the movies
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yea who gets snitched on also based on likeability its kind of crazy man
like these bitches just keep certain dudes in there pocket that they know they are gonna use in event of them having a problem
its wild shit really
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why I said before its bitches runnin the streets saying who gonna be free tomorrow or not
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this other chick just did year and half snitched on by her fucking cousin
but the chick really wasn’t dealin dealin just getting shit for her cousin
but yea if someone asks you to get em shit always say fuck no
unless you plan on being a real dealer cause when you get set up you gonna get treated like one
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so I guess chicks can get set up too but yea norm dudes
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I actually went in walmart one time when I found out shit was taken to pay for it
and the manager came over and said well she didn’t get caught like don’t worry about it
I paid for it anyway and she said nobody had ever come in and done that
but yea shit I do believe there is probably a life after this and i’ll prob have to answer for shit I do plus
so yea I know I wouldn’t want nobody just watchin someone rob me and not say shit
plus I like a clear conscience
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really ya know your def not living in a free country with prostitution being illegal it leaves these woman open to all kinds of harassment and abuse by authority figures as well
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One other reason women flirt when they’re with someone is to exercise some type of control over their guy.
The idea is to show or demonstrate that if the guy isn’t more attentive, nicer x, y, z…i’ll just leave.
The worst thing a guy can do is to act jealous. Calling that out only validates that behavior as effective in destabilizing the guy’s confidence.
This is the ultimate shit-test but as with many shit-tests it can go too far and sabotage the whole relationship.
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There’s the biological model and there’s the market model.
Feefees couple with the best male they can secure, but it’s always a compromise. His flaws weigh on her daily; they’re constantly on display as they live together. This compromise contract is a reasoned decision, but his shortcomings irritate her subconscious, and her feelings drive her towards relief when she sees an image of greatness. She will make the rational choice to remain committed to Mr Compromise, while concurrently treating herself to the pleasures of a boss who is above her level in the commitment market. It’s basic female nature to maximize their total value from the market in this way.
Most of the girls I’ve been with have had boyfriends. Most hot girls always have one. If you’re attractive enough, they will indulge. There’s no stopping the law. One simply has to pursue, and demonstrate that he can be trusted with discretion (although they can be pretty fucking reckless, perhaps emotionally driven to destroy the burdensome contract, constrained only by their feeble female upper brain). That is the value proposition which is pitched, and it’s the rational choice for her. If you want to take her permanently, then she needs to be convinced that you’re serious about replacing him in the long-term contract role. I always feel a responsibility not to imply that I’m going for boyfriend status, as it’s malicious to destroy a well matched couple just for kicks. If you’re willing to commit, she will leave with zero remorse.
They all cheat, and if they don’t it’s because they haven’t been offered the right basket of goods. There may be a religious girl here or there who has the moral compass to control herself, but that’s the grail in this toxic free-for-all.
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From Esther Vilar The Manipulated Man
The book was published in 1971
This is the dedication
This book is dedicated to all those whom it does
not mention: to the few men who refuse to be
manipulated, to the few women who are not
venal and all those fortunate enough to have lost
their market value because they are either too
old, too ugly, or too ill.
ESTHER
and these are a few quotes
A DICTIONARY
Constant self-abasement in the presence of men has led women to develop a secret
language which other women understand but which is incomprehensible to men,
since they take it literally. It would, therefore, be a great advantage to men to hold the
key to this code and so create a sort of dictionary for themselves. Then, whenever
they heard a standard phrase, they could decipher its real meaning.
Here are a few examples, with a translation into male language. (next page)
CODED
A man must be able to protect me.
DECODED
A man must be able to spare me from all forms of discomfort. (What else could he
protect her from? Robbers? An atom bomb?)
CODED
I need a man to make me feel secure
DECODED
Above all, he must keep his money worries to himself.
CODED
I must be able to look up To a man
DECODED
To be a possible candidate as a husband, he must be more intelligent, responsible,
courageous, industrious and stronger than I am. Otherwise, what purpose would he
serve?
……………………………..
and so on
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So to tie that in: she’s already secured her primary objective of a stable emotional and financial provider; now she wants to maximize her total received value with a man whose role is Pleasure Provider (or gene provider in the wild). This second type of contract requires much less negotiation on her part, and it helps her to be direct to gain his attention, given that he’s above her level in the commitment market and wouldn’t waste his time without the promise of easy pussy (if he wasn’t above her level, he would already be her primary provider).
In the gym yesterday lookin boss next to an Asian 7 with a great ass, and her chodey used-to-be-fat but now beefy Asian boyfriend. She broke away to get water… I crossed paths with her and she stared me in the eye from 8 feet out. These things happen.
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Reasons women flirt when they’re in a relationship:
1. Because they’re not flirting. They’re being openly friendly, which they can’t do when they’re single, because men take it as flirting.
2. Because they’re trying to show their partner that they are attractive to other men… not because they want to trade up, but because they want to show their partner that they’re still attractive.
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2. I’m still putting up with the bitch, so how’s that even an issue.
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This also asserts proof as to why “asshole game” works…as a girl is scanning to see what her best option could be given her assets, the human nature proclivity to desire what we (perceive) is not available to us comes into play.
Something I’ll mention to for guys just getting into the game….the best “asshole game” (at least that I’ve run) is primarily JUST to get under her skin a bit. That’s it. It’s not about actually hurting her or even trying to knock her down…it’s just to convince her that she hasn’t won the game with me yet.
If she feels like she’s subtly being pushed away, like I’m not really “feeling her”, then she will naturally wonder why and seek to understand it. I will consciously do this in order to give her a little game to play (even if I REALLY am digging this chick…like, she’s the blonde, perky tits pretty face nice thigh gap type girl that I jack off to on pornhub). And this comes with months and months of discipline to say “OK pbs, she’s hot and I can tell her that, but not right now. There’s some work to be done. :)”
This isn’t with every girl (some are just sold on me no matter what, so pushing her away would not make sense….attraction is established and we can move forward). I don’t actually care about ruining a girls life or really hurting her feelings, and it all comes from a position of uncaring.
But lots of new guys fuck this up (I sure as hell did for a long time, believe you me). They hear “you gotta be an asshole to get chicks!” and while this may work every now and then, you’re actually getting the girl IN SPITE of this kind of behavior, not really understanding the mechanics behind it.
Two examples, one good, one bad that I have done in the past:
Me: “Hey what’s up…having a good time?” (body turned into her)
Her: (with a look of “why is this guy talking to me?”) Ummmm yea pretty good. (then looks at me like umm ok you’re weird)
Me: “So you just come out to not talk to anyone? That attitude isn’t very cute.”
Her: “Ok bye.” Backturns, and I’m done.
In this instance, there is a pang of “I want to stick it to this girl for making me feel bad” but mainly I’m just mad at myself because I don’t know how to talk to girls and be attractive.
Me: “Hey yo….having a good night?” (body towards the bar like I’m ordering, just being social)
Her: (with a look of “why is this guy talking to me?”) Ummmm yea pretty good. (then looks at me like umm ok you’re weird)
Me: “haha you have this look on your face like “motherfucker you are the 50th guy to come spit game at me tonight this better be good!!!” (my body is still sort of away and toward the bar)
Her: jokingly aggreeing “Oh yea totally this better be good!”
Me: “nah…you seem like you would make a good friend.” (then do a slight takeaway like I really am focussed on getting a drink rather than flirt, even break off communication)
Sometimes she reengages because she’s curious, sometimes I’ll reengage in a minute or two, but all of a sudden….I’ve done something most guys DON’T do and it’s very subtle…..I haven’t shown too much interest (overly shown my hand as to now she knows what I’m thinking)….now she’s a bit curious.
I’ll end this by saying, when i started out in game, I was largely direct but for me, aside from it really pushing my personal boundaries and not being scared of much afterward, it wasn’t all that efficient for me. Because of my short stature, I’ve had FAR much better success in being indirect as shown above rather than forcing the issue too quickly. It’s like I sort of play around the issue of sex where a girl who, on paper, is “out of my league” (either taller or just hot) and instead of appearing sold on her like every other chode, she’s curious and invested as to why I’m not drooling over her. I’m sure most girls even think I’m beta at first lol. I definietly play “sneaky fucker” game to the max.
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This is an awesome comment.
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This is an awesome comment.
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The only difference is that the second convo shows your (it’s been said a thousand times) aloofness and outcome independence.
Works for me too.
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I’m doing this tonight.
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Amazing Comment PimpinBlueStar!
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“This is true. The most obvious flirtations are often from women who are taken, and sometimes with their man present and accounted for! It’s less common to get aggressive flirts from single women.”
Not in my social circle. Almost all the aggressive flirts I’ve gotten have been from single women. I’ve gotten a few DTF’s from taken women: “My husband will be out of town for the weekend” and a chick held my hand to her tit in front of her man. Not 100% sure that the guy she was with was actually in a LTR with her.
Aggressive flirts I’ve received from single women:
1) Woman reaches her arms around me to type on my keyboard and does all kinds of other crap to let me know she’s interested.
2) Woman suggests we should go out dancing together.
3) Woman gives me obvious eye signals repeatedly, raising an eyebrow when we’re dancing. Kind of bizarre, actually.
4) Woman takes me by the waist with both hands and pulls me into her, then drapes her hands around my neck and gazes up at me while staying in the kiss zone
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I would agree that women with beta males would definitely flirt more, always looking to upgrade – at least long enough to be impregnated by a more alpha male. This makes biological sense.
However women with alpha males, here I am not sure about them being more flirtatious. It could be so, but I think this would be just for slight ego boosts and not done with the intention to find an upgrade for impregnation.
I have been in ltrs with two very alpha males at different points in time obviously, and something funny happened to me both times.
I lost all interest in other men – other men were tantamount to women to me. Why would I want them when I was with, in my mind, the best man in the world?
Maybe of course I actually was more flirtatious at that time by nature without considering what I was doing? But i have no idea, can’t remember flirting or actually seeing other men as anything but…not as good as the man I was with, therefore nothing to be concerned about.
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I think it’s because they’re cheating sluts. The reality is that if you are the provider type, your woman will want another man’s seed to get her pregnant because they do this the most when they are both in a relationship and fertile.
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Why Do Women Flirt More When They’re With Someone?
Just b/c women are in LTRs doesn’t mean they stop being hypergamous.
And you know who craves social validation the most? Engaged women. In particular the 24-32 first timers. They need to know they can still get a man interested, just as they are about to (theoretically) swear of of strange dick forever. Give them the social validation they crave an you are as done and dusted as James Franco. Feed them a steady diet of negs, and you might be her last, pre-marital fling, if that’s what you want.
À bientôt,
Mistral
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@Mistral THIS!!! I had a good looking female manager at Cirque du Soleil who is engaged and is solid 8. I saw her and was attracted to her, but once I saw the ring I fell back. She would always ask me how I was doing multiple times in a day and call me hun in front of people. She could be a bitch to some people, but was usually chill. My point is when I would give her attention, she would eat it up. Then after that if I initiated conversation just for the heck of it, she would be quiet. But, when she would initiate it was all good. She was a kind person, but seemed like an attention whore to me. At least with me.
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This is something that has particularly intrigued me the last 18 months or so. As I become more aware of social-sexual dynamics and game generally in a practical sense.
One thing that has repeatedly happened during this time is as follows. Most of it was during my MBA program. Upon initially meeting women whether individually, in a group or mixes of men and women, the following happens:
• I approach or start talking with them
• I make eye contact, hold it, smile
• Girls bodies straighten up, adjust their posture, re-cross their legs, adjust their hair. They have what Krauser calls an “eye spazz”
• we talk about regular normal stuff. They’ll say stuff that is awkward or weird (much like a dude when he’s nervous with a chick). One girl gushed over my body (verbally, not physically, unfortunately) for a good 20 seconds in front of her work colleagues before catching herself.
• I contribute minimal energy to the interaction, leaning back, speaking slowly, with a quite smile on my face.
• Then randomly out of context to the conversation they will blurt out, “I have a boyfriend”. Bear in mind during completely normal conversations.
It turned out most did actually have boyfriends or husbands (although not there at the time of talking). In some cases, the girls tried to get me to chase them to meet up with her and her boyfriend (which I brushed off).
My question are:
Are the girls initial reactions just unconscious reflexes indicative of attraction? Is the “I have a boyfriend” statement more for their benefit or mine (hindbrain in operation)?
What is the purpose of this last maneuver? Is it baiting their boyfriend? Is it a female version of ‘dread game’? Is it an attempt to compare me and her existing boyfriend? Or merely validation? Note that as an introvert I am known as generally difficult to read and don’t make obvious overtures.
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Beta male rage turns deadly: http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27556097
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“Note that both reasons #1 and #2 are rendered null and void if the woman is in a relationship with an alpha male. (1: she won’t feel the urge to scope as much and 2. an alpha lover’s opinion of her remaining attractiveness is weighted more than a beta lover’s opinion.)”
3. She is terrified of her alpha’s never ending options and instead of flirting/pinging she spends her energy monitoring alpha’s interactions and mate guards the best she can while still appearing social.
Proper game means she never gets the chance to play offense. Hamster is busied with keeping the high status man she has instead of spinning the hypergamous “what if’s”.
Just like the beta worries all night that some alpha will steal his woman, the HB should constantly worry that her alpha will walk away for any (another HB) or no reason. This takes all her power and that’s the way she wants it.
The minute you make a HB your top priority is the minute she starts pinging.
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This is why men need Game:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10853875/California-drive-by-shooting-Son-of-Hunger-Games-assistant-director-Elliot-Rodger-suspected-of-killing-six.html
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Omega male shooting rampages has been covered here, but this guy makes it really obvious that women are the reason he snapped.
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chick called me all excited to get out
told I missed her to she started crying she’s so tiny and cute
she said her ass getting fat I told her to exercise
she said she is its still sagging lol
I got to talk to her personal security guard chick
telling me she needs to eat i say i like my tiny one she says ok i’m gonna make sure she exercising then
he he he
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guess ill put some loot on that chicks books for takin care of my chick after my chick gets out
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that chicks dude in jail for one of the murders last summer block away from me
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killed one of the invading big city dudes but lost his own life too pretty much
sad really
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thing is this dude would of prob never robbed a regular person or caused them trouble he was drug dealin so he had loot
he killed another drug dealer not just like killin someone for fuck of it
more understandable
drug dealers don’t really fuck with people except other drug dealers its the people not dealing with no money fuckin people up
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“This is true. The most obvious flirtations are often from women who are taken, and sometimes with their man present and accounted for! It’s less common to get aggressive flirts from single women.”
Flirting for a lot of woman is a relief. A really feminine girl’s default state is to be sexual and flirty. But there are repercussions for that…slut-shaming, madonna/whore complex judgement, leading guys on and not being able to get rid of orbiter chodes, being raped, other girls getting catty/jealous and starting drama, boys getting into fights (and not the good kind that turn her on), having to reject guys because she flirted but didn’t want to fuck them and they get mad and call her names, etc. etc.
So a lot of times a girl has to “hold back” on being flirty and sending iois and shit, because it has consequences.
A single girl has to hold back. A smokin hot 9 who gets on a public bus will NOT make eye-contact with anyone. She looks straight down at the ground and at her seat and then looks at her phone the whole time. She’s doing this because she knows if she accidentally looks at anyone, she’ll be stuck dealing with a “situation” for her entire bus ride. So it’s easier for her to just look down at the ground and hold back. This is an unnatural state for her, this isn’t her default, she’s holding back here.
That same girl will go out with her social circle and be introduced to a cute guy in that social circle and flirt with him, not holding back, because now it’s “safe” for her to be herself. This is her default state, the flirty one.
A girl on her boyfriend’s arm feels safe to flirt it up because she has a safety line to pull back if any negative consequences happen. It’s kind of like a little weasel guy shouting insults while hiding behind a big tough buddy’s back, he can always duck behind the tough guy if shit hits the fan.
But in that moment, that little weasel guy is fully letting loose because he feels safe from the consequences. Whereas if his tough buddy wasn’t there he would probably hold back more.
So in a way, “taken” girls flirt more because they feel like there’s less consequences for them. A single girl walks past you and makes eye contact and maybe you turn out to be a loser creeper who stalks her for months. A taken girl walks past you on her BFs arm and makes eye contact and you keep walking, so she got her fix of flexing her flirt-muscles (being in her natural state and following her natural feminine instincts to shoot iois out) without any consequences.
My buddy pointed out to me that he’s noticed when I’m talking to girls about sex, they open up incredibly fast and almost seem RELIEVED to be talking about it with me. It’s weird to him (I’m teaching him how to do the sexual rapport shit) but it follows this concept: I create a non-judgemental environment for the girls where they know I won’t slut-shame them or anything for liking and talking about sex, so they spill it all wide open because they’re like “FINALLY I can be myself and talk about sex and how much I love it and the kinky shit I love omg I get to finally be myself!!”
And they’re extra relieved because I’m a GUY they can open up about sex to. They already open up to their girlfriends (chick locker-room talk is probably worse than guys’ locker-room talk lol), but they’re used to having to hold back and be restrained around guys ’cause 99% of guys will judge them harsh for it. So they meet me and they’re like “wow I can talk about sex openly and it’s with a GUY so I can get male perspective and actually all this sex talk is kind of turning me on and this guy is pretty cute and fun and charismatic and I know he won’t judge me ’cause we’re talking about sex and oh now he’s isolated me from everyone so I guess there aren’t any consequences and he’s pinning me against the wall nibbling on my neck and–ya, we need to fuck asap” lol
This is my take on it, at least.
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THIS!!! All your comments are pure gold Ya Really, but this one was very insightful and interesting.
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This is all true (about flirtation). I’m curious how you can get girls you aren’t sleeping with to talk about sex with you. I can think of two times in my own life where a guy tried to do this w me and both times I couldn’t go through with it, although I admit it was kind of hot.
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..other than the obvious woman coming on to you looking at you intently grabbing your junk..the best situation for me is when a woman is within a few feet of me with her back turned…strange but I usually just open with something simple such as “what’s a better age 34 or 27…” or something easy like that…the answer or non-answer from her isn’t important at that point…
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What do you mean by this? Please elaborate?
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it doesn’t matter what she says after that…just go with it..
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@Reco, In other words commenter No just said that to get the girl to talk or open the chick. But, I have to say I never thought an opener like that would work. I guess it just matters who uses it and how it’s used.
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don’t think hypergamy has much at all to do with why taken women flirt more. women love to flirt because they enjoy the goodie feelz it gives them. but flirting is also a tool for acquiring a mate. so single women flirt less because their armor is up and they are filtering their flirtations to screen out unwanteds. taken women already have the mate and are free to flirt just for the sheer emo fun of it. but occasionally, that free flirting leads to finding someone better than she currently has. she then makes the switch which makes it look like hypergamy was the culprit all long, when in fact it was only the end result of her desirous need for the emo fix.
unless she is a gold digger, hypergamy, in the chaotic emotional world of women, is not usually the underlying cause for her trading up, but is more often the end result.
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local hippie pua peacocking it
http://asheville.craigslist.org/mis/4475403129.html
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agree with your exegesis
‘lets you and him fight’ would fall under 1
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I went to my weekly dance. A super cute girl shows up. She sits with my group. I start gaming her, she responds. She is laying it on, giving me tons of IOI’s. I number close her. We drink some beers, dance, kino, eye fucking. She’s lapping it all up and making it clear she is open.
I text her late suggesting we go for pizza, she’s on her way home says “Another time.” I suggest meeting up for drinks. “No problem.” she replies. But she’s vague in confirming at time and date because it is 2:30am.
In FB there suggestions on who to add. This girl’s name comes up. She’s got photos of her and some herb “bf” who’s posted a recent birthday card “Love you forever.”
This girl is 24. I’m absolutely floored. It was clear I wanted to fuck this girl and she at no point ever brought up the “love you forever” guy.
I was planning to invite her out but now i’m not sure what this is all about. If this was my gf number closing some dude, drinking beer I would freak out and she’d be gone…in fact that is what I did with my last one.
This post is mostly for sharing but it could be the dude is out, they’re broken up. This did not seem like a “LJBF” thing.
I’m thinking invite her out, if this is some attention-seeking shit, dump it quick.
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post–script. Shot out a text suggesting a meet up on Sunday.
Got reply in 10 minutes. I’m not available today.
Me: k
So why do women flirt? ego, boredom, manipulation, attention-seeking, fight with boyfriend, boyfriend away…
What was interesting was this girl at no point suggested she had a bf, nor did she seem in any way put off by my gaming her or my asking her out.
The only thing i didn’t do was escalate to a k-close but logistics made that difficult in a room full of nosy, gossipy people.
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…in ovulating phase…on a trip looking to meet interesting people…
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A Malay running amok. Yawn.
What next shocking development, clergy/youthcoaches/teachers engaging those entrusted to them in some sort of sexual manner?
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Girls are always looking to trade up or momentarily release on someone new. Some of you all may not think so, but even alphas get cheated on.
I had a friend who was better than me in damn near everything. He was taller, had good looks, more money, and tighter, more impulsive game. We’re at a party another friend is hosting and long story short, he ends up getting a bit more drunk than the rest. He goes off into his car and passes out. Meanwhile, his girlfriend and I are inside the garage talking. Music comes on and I tell her to dance with me. She complies and is absolutely loving it. I man-handle her just like any other chick and she’s all giddy with excitement calling me an asshole for spinning her around at improper moments.
I see her becoming too attached as this is going on, so I pull away and sit down. She comes over to where I’m at and sits right on my lap. I start to get a huge rush of bloodflow in my penis because aside from her face, her ass was her next best quality. It was very soft and firm like any 19 year old girl who works out would be. It was painfully obvious now that she wanted to fuck. Now, just so you know, I’m a very selfish guy and I personally don’t give a fuck about anyone or anything else but my own desires. But I still didn’t want to fuck my friend over pussy. Business, yes but pussy… that’s everywhere. No need to screw someone you know over that.
Anyway, I push her off my lap and tell her I have to use the restroom. I get inside to take a quick leak and bam, the door opens. It’s her and she walks inside saying that she couldn’t wait because she really needs to go. This is bullshit, obviously but I tell her alright. I zip up and as I walk out, she says that she can’t pull her pants down because she’s too drunk. “Can you please help me pull them down?”
I get closer to her, to undo her button, and that’s when she leans forward a bit and stares at my lips. I say “fuck it” and go all out. Interestingly enough, as I’m making out with her, she pulls her pants down and grabs my hand to place it on the outside of her panties.
They’re soaking wet.
I close the door and she starts giving me a bj, without me saying a damn word. “I want it inside of me, now.” As I start to position her I hear the door knock and it’s some other ho who needs to use the restroom. We momentarily freak out but I tell her to hide behind the shower curtains (thank god they were dark wine in color), while I leave and the girl uses the restroom. After the other girl leaves, I tell her the coast is clear and we head outside to see the others.
The story doesn’t end there but let’s just say, we met a couple of more times after this.
The market is that brutal. Female desire is very crass and insatiable when you get right down to it.
If you ever catch your girl straying by hanging out with guys or even looking at them inquisitively, I suggest you punish her swiftly. The best form of punishment is one that’s both mental and physical. If you don’t have the balls to get physical with her or you fear the police, then I suppose you could resort to only mental punishment by instilling dread.
Dread and some slap here or there will do wonders for you. Millions of femnazis or manginas can tell me otherwise but they don’t know the score. They never have and they never will.
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yea when ya hear the stoyry of chick fucking a football stadium of dudes ya know it can get pretty bad
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Wow, that story was crazy!!! I think two of the reasons why she was attracted to you was b/c she saw you were outcome independent and mainly b/c you were able to turn down her advances at first. By you turning down her advances the first couple of times, instantly made you high value/alpha in her mind. Mainly b/c she probably thinks you have lots of options if you turning her down at first. Another interesting thing is she did EXACTLY what a lot of pretty girls do when they get rejected. They pursue even harder!!! BTW, this is kind of off topic and don’t take this as insult. I think you would be really good at writing erotica b/c you painted the picture perfectly of the whole situation with your words and you write well.
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[…] Commenter having a bad day writes, one of the better things that i did to get confidence was to recognize the MANY IOIs that women are putting out all the time. women, especially young fertile (hot) women, ping their environment ALL the time. […]
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My ex would always talk and flirt w/ random guys when i was with her. Especially at the grocery store. It amazed me how many random scumbags he seemed to just know “casually.” She always stop and flirt and have conversations with these douchebags with me standing there. I finally wised up and showed her the door when i found out she was entertaining all her ex’s when they were in from out of state. I’m not an idiot and now she’s just somebody that i used to know.
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