Reader IHTG forwarded this funny gif of a dude teasing a girl right up to the line of sexual harassment, holding his frame, and then defusing the tension with yet more teasing. Any formal context is missing (which is obviously true for short gifs), but you can figure it out by everyone’s facial expression.

This is a nice little demonstration of the cocky/funny alpha male attitude.
The (one-sided) courtship opens with the male’s exaggerated pose of neediness requesting acknowledgement from the female.
The female responds with a “who, me?” gesture, as most women would to a man brazenly beckoning for them. The rarity of such a thing among the males of the genus westernius Manboobii is what provokes the submissive female auto-response.
The courtship enters the “shock and awe” stage, when the alpha male “air swats” the female’s buttocks.
Now that the pair are fully engaged with one another, the female expresses anger and indignation toward the alpha male for his surprise advance on her posterior. In lioness terms, she evades the male lion’s mounting and wheels around to make a threat display. But we all know how this ends.
The alpha male does not appease the female nor attempt a reconciliation. Instead, he grins sociably, points at the female as if to declare her facial expression the height of comedy, and faces the crowd of onlookers to enlist their support and preempt any move by the female to ostracize him.
Turning back to the female (her hands perched on her hips waiting for his apologia), he extends a handshake of friendship to defuse the escalating sexual tension, only to once again befuddle and arouse the female by pulling his hand away from her just at the moment she prepares to accept his peace offering.
Finally, the courtship reaches the apogee of its first phase, when the alpha male’s cocky antics elicit a smile and a flurry of lighthearted punches from the female, who has been awakened to a state of sexual receptivity and has begun the second phase of the courtship where she “presents” to the alpha male for a continuation of their mating ritual.
In related news, Elliot Rodger never faked out a girl with a phony handshake.

Awesome. The phony handshake is classic.
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Such a jerk, and still women love those types of men…
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“Such a jerk . . .”
Defend your premise.
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I wouldn’t even call it a jerk move. It was situationally tactful, actually. He executed it fine and the body language was all good. It wasn’t ‘too much’ for the classroom setting either (I’m going by the youtube video). Just a smooth skilled Alpha doing his thing. Something to emulate.
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If you notice the back of her shirt, it says ” I love (heart) me. That means she is ripe for teasing.
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One of those guys is smoking. Indoors. No way this happened in the former US of A.
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If I saw a mother fucker do that to my daughter, the I’d put him in his grave.
Also his little cigarette-smoking faggot-assed wingman sitting in the chair.
And if my daughter put up with this shit and started flirting with these monsters, then she’d get the beating of her life afterwards.
Fathers, do not let your daughters grow up to fall prey to sociopaths.
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I imagine his wingman is interjecting witty remarks and droll observations.
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why? in order for you to have a greater chance of your grandchildren carrying on your genes, you need your daughter to end up with high value man, most of whom act like this when they’re around cute girls. now, i suppose your concern is more related to his being nonwhite and, you know, fair enough, i don’t want my grandkids to be nonwhite either. but, as a general rule, i think you’re way off base.
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lol. Elliot Rodger didn’t know Game and wanted to kill everybody. You know Game, and want to kill people who use Game.
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If I saw a mother fucker do that to my daughter, the I’d put him in his grave.
Also his little cigarette-smoking faggot-assed wingman sitting in the chair.
And if my daughter put up with this shit and started flirting with these monsters, then she’d get the beating of her life afterwards.
It was a tough choice between ‘O RLY’ and the winner but I’m going with ‘Cool story bro’
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And the ‘alpha’ is some kind of half-breed, which is not good.
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ZS, your bitterness is transparent. You resent the reality that one can have a happy successful life laying women and leaving them without marital/familial obligations. And you lash out in the most pathetic manner: imploring guys who wish to improve their sexual lives to “put dem buns in the oven”, all in a desperate bid to validate your own irrelevant agenda. And let’s not forget the forced displays of false machismo. I’m sure many PUAs have felt the wrath of your futile barstool-swinging incel-rages.
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ZS is always a shoe-in for dumbest post of the thread. His self-professed bitter hatred for minorities is so dripping he makes CH look like Oprah.
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“If I saw a mother fucker do that to my daughter, the I’d put him in his grave.”
And then you would get raped in the shower for the next decades until you die or you would fry on the chair.
What kind of weirdo reacts that way to a guy being hilarious/cool? He didn’t even touch her.
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Tell ya what ZS, why dont post us a pic of your daughter and we’ll tell you if she’s even worth gaming?
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What if he wanted to put a bun in your daughter’s oven?
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Lol ZS, you have to lighten up. He didn’t touch her. This isn’t even controversial. They’re just goofing around.
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I have daughters, and if I saw a (White) man pull that on one of them, I’d buy him a beer. Gold.
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Dude what year do you think this is,,
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Straight from the mouth of the high priest himself:
DILIGENT FATHERS ARE KRYPTONITE TO PSYCHOPATHS.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/psychopath-game/
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All y’all playaz will be more than welcome to attempt to Game my little girlz, once they come of age.
Because all my little girls will have already earned their PhDs in Anti-Game Theory [with highest honors] before the first menses.
But if you start that physical intimidation – and especially if you put your hands on my daughters – then I will put you in your graves.
Civilized men romance their women with the dark power of their evil serpent’s forked tongue.
Whereas chimpanzees romance their women by raping them [and then murdering them afterwards].
PS: As for you, Little Miss Amy, my boys will be taught that under no circumstances whatsoever are they to dump their seed in the womb of the Whore of Babylon.
So you might as well start teaching your daughters about Preparation H.
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LOL if your daughter grows up attractive some dude will treat her anus like his personal toy.
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If I saw that guy acting that way in public I would automatically think he were a douche, and so would most other respectable White man. Why should someone have to act like a douchebag in order to get women ?
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“Why should someone have to act like a douchebag in order to get women ?”
Haven’t you been paying attention? Might as well start with the first post of this blog, you have a lot to learn.
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Douche baggery is what women want.
Maybe not on a long term basis though.
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Dude needs a dead leg.
Arch up and execute a swift downward punch on his leg. He’d keel over.
Btw, it’s quite a nice set of moves. I was doing something similar with a Dutch blonde and my redhead girl came up to me and attacked.
History ensued.
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This is just playing around. So many internal conflicts about having to be a douche to get girls. Yet there’s a big difference from this -everybody is just laughing and being similar to little kids – versus well.. umm… like when Heartiste makes post about serials killers.
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Anybody else notice her “I ❤ ME" shirt?
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not until i read your comment. great catch
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Par for the course.
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Yeah about the second time it looped
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You’re slipping, CH. Notice he did not even touch her. The spank was a fake out. So was the handshake. His tease was so well done, she was first to get physical but only after he turned his back.
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It looked to me like she got too close to him and he brushed off his pants like “Don’t get me dirty”.
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Definitely an alpha move. But too Alpha in a civilized, western, polite society…which we don’t have anymore. In a polite society he’d be Emmitt Tilled after class (not lynched of course but you get my drift).
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It could be improved upon in 2 ways:
1. he could have really swatted her.
and 2……
take a guess, boys and girls….
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He could have respectfully requested that she accompany him to a fine dinner?
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+++++ the # of victims of Elliot Rodger.
Too soon rape!
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Never happen. His type has no job, nothing to recommend him. Not an “alpha,” just a loser.
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Or that the cops find the same shot mislabeled on his hard drive as they did with Adam Lanza.
http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/sandy-hook-killer-had-movie-depicting-manboy-relationship-his-pc
Childmolester.
When they release the copious gay porn he downloaded call me.
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Read her a short essay explaining to her all of his feelings for her and what eternity would be like together?
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oh eternity gme the only game that matters
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Stalked PA?
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Extremism in the defense of integrity is no vice.
Goldwater rape!
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kid’s got balls – her SMV in terms of looks alone is out of her league but he doesn’t give a fuck
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she is not THAT great and he, other than non-white, is decent enough.
” Out of his/her league” as long as 2 people are in the same classroom and none of their parents are present is a non-issue.
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“League” is a social construct.
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need advice
met a tinder girl last week for drinks, drinks went well but then i went overboard outside the bar with too much heavy making out which seemed to activate her slut defence and see wouldnt come back to my house when i asked her
text her a few days later to check in, her responses were non playful but she did say she had a good time when i asked her and said she would meet again. then i suggested next week she could come to mine to watch a movie and she didnt respond.
obviously im being very aggressive maybe overly so and she seems a big flake risk to me, anyone have any input on the best way to reopen now to get her to meet?
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When her response a few days later sounded wary you shouldn’t have asked her to come to your place to watch a movie. Should have waited a while, and then asked her to see you outside. From there, you could take her home later in the evening. Don’t ask a girl to come straight to your place to spend the evening, unless she has already been there.
Now, when she hasn’t responded, you can only go no contact. Come back much later. Maybe in the meantime she will contact you, though probably not. But lie low for a while, contact other girls. This is when Rollo Tomassi’s “spin more plates” rule comes to mind.
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Girls on Tinder assume “come watch a movie” to mean come have sex. Most of the time that won’t work unless you have already banged or her interest is insanely high. You should have met her out somewhere first. Sounds like she needed to be gamed some more.
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Which makes you wonder: do girls ever think all a guy wants to do is watch a movie?
Actually they often make themselves think so. If they want to exploit the situation – see a guy, eat dinner or watch a movie or whatever but not have sex like they know he really wants – they don’t want to admit to themselves that that’s what they are doing. And most people are masters at self-deception.
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At least some of the time, girls tell themselves they’re just going to watch a movie, because decent girls have to create the right set of circumstances in their own head in order to allow themselves to do what they really want.
Girl wants your bone. Girl doesn’t want to be a slut. Girl agrees to a movie, because “nothing is gonna happen” but if she’s attracted to you she will be really disappointed if all you do is watch a movie. She might not even understand why she’s disappointed.
Play this card right, and Pet Semetary can turn into hide the salami. That happens to be exactly how I lost my virginity once upon a time.
Looking back on some of the things I know about women makes me reflect on how I ended up with the girl I did. The piece that was missing for me was being the aggressor initially. Once they came to me, I just assumed the sale, and I closed often, but the girls that came to me weren’t very high quality. I just assumed that was all I could get, instead of realizing that exactly the same mind games I played to fuck the fat girls would have worked on hot girls.
I still have trouble remembering that. I need to get past it.
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We always know what “watch a movie” means, ha ha. If she’s into you but trying to avoid having sex with you too soon, she’s going to resist going to your place. It’s always a trap. Lol
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lol
“i went overboard outside the bar with too much heavy making out which seemed to activate her slut defence”
“suggested next week she could come to mine to watch a movie”
This needs one of those meme gifs where the top of it says “goes too sexually forward and triggers ASD”, and at the bottom it says “tries to fix it by being more sexually forward” 😀
All good man, we’ve all done it. Just had to calibrate to her hesitation and pull back and build some friend zoney comfort and probably go on another face to face date VS trying to get her to just come over. Follow Arbiter’s advice.
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@yareally Fucked up so many sure thing lays in the past with this. Ugh. Definitely needs a meme.
Another common fuck up to watch out for: Today I was walking around campus and an attractive woman comes up to me, completely cold approach, asking for directions for how to get out of the campus. It’s very easy to find the way out. She smiles and mentions she’s staying a couple blocks away at a hotel. I literally just gave her directions and sent her on her way.
Face palm.
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@kant
Guys approaching should consider that some of the girls you approach who aren’t immediately receptive/flirty with you and who seem uninterested, may actually just be blindsided by you the way you were here and after you leave they think “oh man that guy was cute why did I say that?? I should have said something flirty!! aww :(” because they just weren’t in state and on the ball. It’s worth plowing a bit through the awkwardness to see if she just needs a minute to get unstifled or if she’s really not into it.
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You could use the picture of the college slut who was getting fingered by the ATM by the guy she picked up and later claimed had been raped.
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This happens to me sometimes. Step 1 — tint your windows. That ups the chance of something good happening. Her ASD may still prevent her from sexing it up with you…but you’ll get something out of it, I’m sure.
Step 2 — you gotta come across like you really like her. I mean, I hate to say that the girls I’ve been with are teaching me stuff….but, yeah…..acting like “I don’t usually do this,” “I’m not normally like this….” can take you a long way. Now, you don’t want to be a chick who just lies….so just find little ways to make her feel like she’s special. You know….don’t just call her a slut…say she’s your slut. Ha jk. Not really tho.
So while you’re hot and heavy, break it up with some flowery nice shit about why/how you like her. Your hands think she’s a slut but your words think she’s an angel.
But when you flame out and she says ‘no’ or gives you some guff…just immediately stop and wind it down. Don’t keep trying. Just try to get her to your place next time.
As played….you’ll have to meet her face to face again, and you’ll have to do light sexual stuff before you THEN bounce to a more private location and escalate.
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aren’t you the short black guy who cried about how he is too beta and short to attract girls?
black beta leprechaun trying to talk about game. lol.
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Ya….years ago, kid. it’s called self-improvement. I hope you take positive action in your life one day too.
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lol, the self-admitted beta loser and black leprechaun needs to lie and distort again because he is insecure.
years ago? you admitted it here a few MONTHS ago. a week after you arrived and began crying, you began spamming the forums incessantly so much that many users told you to calm down. you posted 25 times every thread, at least, oftentimes many paragraphs.
here you were, admitting you were a short black crybaby who can’t get girls, yet flaming and insulting other users and trying to act like a womanizer, lol. you are worse than Amy or Maya. you know spamming here won’t make you any taller, right?
oh look, the black leprechaun insulted me too. haha. keep posting text exchanges with girls where you crash and burn and refer to them as ‘mini heartbreak girl’. such alpha!
I remember one time where you were harassing some girl that had just miscarried a baby, and other users had to tell you to lay off and stop bothering her. lol, what an autist.
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Tinder is all about the 1st nite lay. If you didn’t close, it’s time to go search new matches.
Your only play is to go silent and see if she initiates.
Next time dont be so hungry.
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I dont kiss chicks if its going to just be a fuck. Chances are you arent the only guy shes fucked recently, so its a good way to get strep or any other fill in the blank easily transmittable disease. Sometimes yeah, ya gotta do it but a kiss in the neck or whatever can accomplish just as much. I would guess that most chicks that are on tinder would not want people knowing exactly what they are up to on tinder, so making out with her in front of a bar she was prob worried about someone she knows seeing her. Now, if you have to make out with her in public either give her the finger blaster or grab her ass just where the bottom of the cheek ends. Its where the nerves wrap around the outside of the glut muscle, and it activates the nerves in her mommy parts.
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ok good advice
i reopened with ‘im free thurs lets meet’
she responded and said she might be goin somewhere that day, can she let me know tomorrow
i said fine no prob
so we will see if she responds today
she hasnt rejected the idea at all of coming to mine so if she does text today sayin she can meet do you think i should press on with the movie idea or redirect to meet her face to face in public again?
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‘so we will see if she responds today’
I’d take the initiative if I were you. Usually in this situ I’d just not reply to her pre-emptive/poss flake and then wait until whatever day she wanted to ‘let me know by,’ to txt.
So just reach out to her today…’you good for later’ or something like that. Slight DLV, sure I guess but it’s worth removing the day’s uncertainty. If she flakes out without attempting to reschedule, then it’s probably time to put her on the backburner.
If she says she’s good for later, then I mean…..take the risk, ask her to your place. Do it in a non-sexual way tho.
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In other news, the Elliots at puahate would never in a million porn downloads come up with something like this. Or even be able to see its worth.
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Here’s the diametrically opposite beta gif
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/05/01/nothing-but-cheek-story-behind-raptors-fans-kiss-rejection
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lzozozlozlz
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Only fly something you know you can land. The poor lad did nothing but stretch his neck out to kiss spit on her ax handle .
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This reminds me of the time when I was at a party and a girl asked me for the peanut bowl next to me. I said, “So, you’re gonna wear a one-piece swimsuit this summer?”
And it just happened to be one of those moments when everyone else was silent at the same time. Everybody heard me, and saw the girl look at me with a shocked face. She and I always used to banter, and they knew it, but this time she couldn’t come up with an answer. And then people started to laugh, and she got all red in the face.
I ate a peanut and then graciously picked up the bowl and gave it to her, grinning. She took it without saying a word.
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Instead of being embarrassed she should have thanked you for looking out for her interests.
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The guy who wrote this article would never do that: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/05/27/not_all_men_how_discussing_women_s_issues_gets_derailed.html.
First of all, here is the new introduction that members of the Hivemind have started to include in all articles lest anyone’s sensitive sensibilities be ever-so-slightly rocked:
“The following article is a discussion about violence, violence against women, and the oppression women face every day. Have a care if these topics disturb you. Note too: I am a cisgender male, and the hashtags I discuss below deal with the issues in binary men/women terms, so I do as well. Trans and other folks may well have very different feelings about these issues, and I welcome their input.”
Also, notice how clueless these people are:
“Fourth—and this is important, so listen carefully—when a woman is walking down the street, or on a blind date, or, yes, in an elevator alone, she doesn’t know which group you’re in. You might be the potential best guy ever in the history of history, but there’s no way for her to know that. A fraction of men out there are most definitely not in that group. Which are you? Inside your head you know, but outside your head it’s impossible to.”
If you were to replace the references to “men” with “blacks,” this man’s career and life as he knows it would be over.
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Thank God the astronomers have spoken. Seriously, Phil Plait is an embarrassment to the profession and mankind. The only question that remains is whether Plait or Scalzi takes the bigger strap-on.
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Definitely Scalzi.
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That disclaimer was too disgusting for me to even click the link. I will accept any ideology, any form of dictatorship, as long as it bans crap like that. Whatever we get instead can only be an improvement.
And yes, agree with your last sentence. But most leftists are too dumb, and the rest are too corrupt, to note how contradictory their “accepting” outlook is.
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Plait is a YKW… he says so in the article.
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The writer needs a Cock up his arse.
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I don’t even want to look up “cisgender male”, as it will just make me angry..
Just the sound of it grates on my brain
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It’s a PC term that you’re normal. But as we know the duckspeakers don’t like to use the term normal, it makes the freaks feel sad.
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Duckspeakers and bellyfeelers, you mean. I think the term “bellyfeel” could be quite useful in slamming these leftoids and should be used much more.
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But this is probably happening somewhere in South America or some Latin country, so it’s not so unusual. Can you imagine SWPL guy trying this?
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It’s Egypt.
I could see it happening at an American frat party, but only after all involved have had a beer or two.
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Yeah, because his f#ckin’ name was Elliot. Dads, don’t ever name your son Elliot.
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This was a joke in the Sure Thing with John Cusack.
Ellllliottttt!
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” Elliot is a fat kid who eats paste. “
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Believe it or not, this is a scene from an Egyptian movie.
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interesting. thanks for letting us know.
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I dont think it matters since its actually not part of the movie but its the actual actor and actress just fucking around behind the scenes
still Alpha!
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Just wanted to give a quick shout out to heartiste, yareally, Christian, zombie Shane, (and whoever else is generally posting advice here–unfortunately shout out to amy too ha).
This shout out is to acknowledge them for helping me and others. I’m relatively new to game with pretty much one long term partner (she was basically a game test dummy lol, but hot as fuck) since becoming aware…and wanted to pinpoint a few of CH’s points that I was always skeptical about but have experienced first hand are true and will now legitimately forever live by them ha.
1) it’s easier to convert a girl to long term lover by being an inconsiderate ass (aka not taking her to dinner or never really cuddling much) than being a nice beta (aka taking taking her out and spending money on her).
2) your goal should NOT be LTR. I am a very goal oriented person and do whatever it takes to get there. But that’s where I usually fuck up. And since I always wanted that Long term lover with a hottie (and who doesn’t really) I made it a goal. It’s not a goal. I always naturally had plates spinning but I never consciously understood what plate theory was. HEALTHY LTRS will be a byproduct to plate theory.
So basically I haven’t had much trouble gaming girls and hooking up or getting a number. In the past I usually fuck up by having a LTR lover mindset when it shouldn’t be that way. It should be how many girls can I get to audition for this role.
For a relationship to be successful you need the girl chasing the guy.
The best way to get this is by being an inconsiderate man who spins plates. Then, if she thinks you are high value enough she will chase you more.
If you are not high value enough than raise your value. Lots of ways to do this. But keep in mind social status has a lot of preference in a girls mind for value.
Also keep in mind your smv will raise till your mid 30s
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she just hss to be able to have stories of you being inconsiderate or an asshole or jerk of the world so that people don’t hate her too much for leading a perfect life and being happy
when you are together its ok to have the most perfect relationship in the world full of love
just got to make sure people know there are flaws or they will prob try to kill you is all it is
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good show sir william
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Passive value gets you a looooong way.
And the right mindset. This sentence really helped me back in the day.
“Men do not attract what they want, but what they are.”
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You gotta tell your sons that you won’t get much cache or status until your mid 30s.
Then it’s your fucking world son, your fucking world.
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The ancient Greeks said that women can get married in their late teens, but men aren’t ready for marriage until after they’ve turned 30.
As we all know, the ancient Greeks were tards. /sarcasm
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Haha, what a jerk!
And … chicks dig jerks!!!!
I bet he
– smokes red Marlboro
– farts publicly
– parted her labia with his bellend
Without any shadow of doubt he’s a highly experienced sexual player who’s accustomed to good pussy, when he wants. Good for him.
On other news: Elliot Rodger never did anything with any girl
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Shut up, fag. Man talk.
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@Chris: RIght. THe confident dude gets laid
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[…] school girls tamed down enough to pass by censors. You see the “rapist” was the most alpha guy in high school. He was the most popular guy, played on the sports team, was physically super […]
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Yeahhhhh, man.
He’s a certified True Alpha. Man.
This website is getting ridiculous. It used to provide some insight, now it’s just a parody of itself. Trying to hard. Gif shows a smart-ass loser who is going to get his ass handed to him one day.
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Keep reading and commenting, tho
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This talking point brought to you by one of the many Israeli college students dedicated to making your Internet experience a safer one.
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Hah, true
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all i see here is one half coon doing all the shucking and jivving he can to get the melanin out of his DNA
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2902620/
Reproductive Status Regulates Expression of Sex Steroid and GnRH Receptors in the Olfactory Bulb
more worthy of discourse than alladin playing fake-out grab ass
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He probably knew the girl. I use to do stuff like this in high school all the time to girls I knew. I never did it to women I did not know. I never thought of it as game just enjoyed messing with the girls…
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Equality my ass.
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yea everyone just looking smiling when the chick did it
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Reblogged this on I Struck the Board, and cried, No more and commented:
Well played.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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chick called me said dude she was staying with arrested last night for murder
he came back with loot last night and an attitude I guess after coming back from the big city
said she didn’t like the new attitude he had
prob did like the loot though lol
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gues these chicks like me haven’t died yet
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kind of crazy to that some dude got killed and his money got brought back to a chick that begged me to fuck her and I couldn’t cause she don’t meet my threshold
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another black dude to add to the jail roster on a more permanent basis
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then again I guess the rep of area gets just that much harder
so when 20 guys come down with guns and my girl walks in there and they accuse her of snitchin they don’t kill her
or maybe its just that even though ya want to kill a blond its like they got a forcefield
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Hey guys, long time reader first time commenter. I’m hoping you fellas can help me out.
I got a girls number late on Friday as the bar was closing. We’ve messages each other once since then, during which I set up a date for tonight at 7 at a bar near my place.
Here is the convo we had today
Me: how do you spell your name I think I typed it in wrong
Her: Carina lol
Me: yep I had too many vowels and not enough r’s..
Her: Hahahaha
Her: want to do 8 instead of 7??
Me: sure I can do 8
Her: okay perfect, where at again??
Her: lol
Me: lord Byron’s
Her: okay but I think I’m gonna go to the mall on the train, can we meet somewhere over there instead lol
Now I think it would be real gay to let her change the time and place of the date I set up and we agreed on. How do I respond to this? Is this some sort of shit test or is she trying to bail to go do something else
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Girls don’t go to the mall alone, so she’s probably getting dragged there by one of her friends. I don’t think it’s a shit test.
i’d reply “we could frolick in the food court with the middle schoolers”
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I didn’t reply for 2 hours then she sent
“Hmm I actually might not be going now, I’ll let you know”
Lol
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So then you’re joining her friends and her and you’re breaking your plans to do it? Bad move if that’s the working assumption. As a variation on your comment, I would instead go with “nah stopped goin to mall when I grad middle school lol come join me n the cool kids at LB I’ll be there around 7”
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Yeah she’s texting you pretty proactively so I don’t think she’s shit testing you. Send back a “Sounds good”
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I didn’t see plissken’s post beforehand but i would still send my reply even then
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He hasn’t even been out with this girl before. To chase her all over is no bueno at this stage. Feels too forced and desperate. Get her coming to you or, if she bails, show you won’t jump at first sent of pussy. You can push harder and make more concessions after initially established
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On Twitter:
“PUA gurus could win a lot of goodwill by not blowing smoke up their customers’ skirts. That means don’t tell a 2 he can instantly get a 10. 2 hours ago”
Agreed. You can usually separate the good bootcamps from the scammers by how honest they are about what a bootcamp can do for people:
“I’d say a new guy taking a bootcamp is going to get out of it a really positive introduction to the game. It means he’s not gonna’ waste anymore time doing it the wrong way. He’s going to get an amazing jumpstart, have really good positive first experiences, and walk away with something in his head that gives him a vision of what he needs to do and what he needs to work on.”
No promise of instant HB10s lol
“Be happy with ANY little victory. You gotta really be happy about it. Admit you suck and just be happy with any little victory. (…) Go fuck a fat chick. Seriously. If you’re the hard-case newbie, go fuck a fuckin’ fatty. Put your dick in a wet hole, turn the lights off, stroke her hair and feel human contact. (…) You can’t get friends? I get it, it’s hard. But TRY. Get a WEIRD friend and work your way up. (…) Nobody owes me SHIT. No one owes you shit. A girl doesn’t owe you a fuckin’ mercy-fuck. They don’t owe you a mercy make-out or a mercy return to your phone call. If you don’t handle your own shit, they don’t owe you anything.”
“They’re like “maybe it WON’T work 100% of the time.” Who cares? You think you won’t make progress? And get 1 step closer to getting better? Ya, done, so do it. You’re never gonna’ reach a level where you can just go up to ANY girl and it’ll just happen like that, boom. Ever. (…) You think you’re going to snap in from a loser to a massive pimp in a day or month? No there’s no escaping it, you’re gonna’ have to put in hard work and pay your damn dues.”
“People who never get rejected or never have to go through anything typically lack in character. The stereotype of the rich kid is not the type that has a lot of character. It’s usually someone who’s had it easy. When you have to work for it, that’s going to help your confidence and self-reliance and give you pride.”
RSD starts every bootcamp with a little speech telling guys it’s not a magic pill that’s going to fix them, they’re going to have to work at it. They can help them get started or iron out little issues, but it’s up to the guys themselves to take it and keep working on themselves to get the hot girls they want.
And here’s Tyler and Jeffy on misogyny, telling guys to let go of their anger issues and bitterness towards women and rejections and girls who don’t want to have sex and Feminists etc:
Just sticking up for RSD ’cause the murderer dude was Subscribed to their channel and people are shitting on PUAs but the specific PUA company he was Subscribed to was actively encouraging much different behavior and expectations than people who haven’t actually watched their content assume.
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I’m going to be pissed if they try to blame this kid’s bullshit on pua. His whole world view was the very antithesis of pua — entitled, misogynistic, thinking everything comes down to money and looks, ignorant of female psychology, unaware that being good with girls is a skill you can work on, etc.
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ya, one of the biggest things I learned from PUA is that most of the shit that happened to me as a kid and the mindsets I grew up with etc. weren’t my fault. I was just trapped in the social conditioning that was fed to me when I was under other people’s care. It’s like a fat baby, his parents are responsible for feeding him so it’s not his fault if he’s fat.
But the 2nd part of that is that anything after I hit my teens/early adulthood WAS my fault. I was making unhealthy unproductive choices in life that were stunting my opportunities and until studying pickup forced me to acknowledge my bad decisions and weakness and confront them head-on and deal with them and create new habits and make new decisions and build healthier mindsets, those wasted years I spent cooped up in my computer room alone like a hermit were my own fault. Just like a person who’s fat past their teens is making bad decisions…they may be ignorant of what good decisions look like, but the knowledge/help is out there for them to learn that, there are plenty of books and websites about healthy eating and dieting.
I just needed the equivalent of those exercise/diet resources but in the area of socialization and interacting with women…something that would give me the guidance to let me know that 1) I could make more productive decisions that would lead to better opportunities in these areas and 2) what those productive decisions were so I can get a foothold and start making them and eventually learning self-reliance, critical thinking, decision-making, etc. and take control of my life.
Elliot was a guy who never learned that his own decisions and mindsets caused a lot of his problems. He constantly blamed everyone else and everything else for his failures in life because no one taught him that he could take control of his life.
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>>>I’m going to be pissed if they try to blame this kid’s bullshit on pua.
Agreed. Nothing in his manifesto (at least the parts I read, which was the parts of his life from 18-22) indicated that he ever attended a bootcamp or even read or watched “game” blogs/books/DVDs. His posts from PUAhate that survived indicated he was there to complain about women. His posts didn’t have complaints about PUA instructors or writers. And of course PUAhate was hardly a “PUA” site.
But it will be easier for the shemales on MSNBC to blame Owen Cook instead of actually reading the manifesto and thinking.
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Online feminists have already decided Rodgers was a “violent MRA like Marc Lepine”, which is apparently their standard codeword for women-haters.
PUA isn’t directly implicated, but for obvious reasons they hate anyone talking about “hypergamy” no matter how positive your message may be.
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“They’re like “maybe it WON’T work 100% of the time.” Who cares? You think you won’t make progress? And get 1 step closer to getting better? Ya, done, so do it. You’re never gonna’ reach a level where you can just go up to ANY girl and it’ll just happen like that, boom. Ever. (…) You think you’re going to snap in from a loser to a massive pimp in a day or month? No there’s no escaping it, you’re gonna’ have to put in hard work and pay your damn dues.””””””””””””””””””””””””
don’t aspire to be a pip the lilfestyle sucks ass in so many ways
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pimp
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bitches that truly love me keep me from doing what they know is going to be bad for me
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cept the time she was gonna put that needle in my arm but that was selfish reason so I would never fucking leave
yea ok so maybe all for selfish reasons
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Gonna repost a salient reply to @Anan1 from the previous thread on realism in learning game.
Being funny, popular, and charismatic are all learnable. I’ve seen tyler from rsd roll up on a 9 (black hair not blonde :P) 2″ taller than him, and have her DTF in about 20 minutes. He was pissed that he had to come back and teach our bootcamp.
I’m pretty good looking, 6ft, white, I hit the gym. You know what it gets me with hotties? About 10-15 seconds. After that whether they like me is entirely dependent on my game.
The issue with game is that for those who need to learn it (I’m in that group) it takes a *fuckton* of effort and way longer than any pickup ad copy would ever like to admit. I’m 2.5 years in and nowhere near where I want to be. I have some cool stories and adventures, but no I’m not getting stunning blondes. I have had them in my arms for 20 minutes giggling themselves stupid, so I can figure out how to fuck them. Gimme another 2.5 years and I’ll get back to you.
A lot of guys work at this stuff for six months and get fed up and conclude it’s impossible. Nowhere near long enough.
The other really hard part about learning pickup is having your (social) deficiencies shoved in your face over and over and learning to cope with disappointment. TBH I’m not sure going balls deep into pickup is a good idea for men dealing with depression, speaking as someone who has dealt with suicidal depression. On sunday I met a hot married asian with perfect fake tits. I could have fucked her in the venue if there was a good place, but she got kidnapped away by friends. On monday, I blew it with a single shitty text. That’s happened a dozen times this year. Being able to work through the resulting negative emotion in a productive way is fucking hard, ultimately worth it, but real hard.
tl;dr: You can go way further with game than you think. It’s not easy though.
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@Lumpy
Interesting post. I agree with you — it’s probably most profitable for a beginner to focus on improving general social skills and circle of friends than on getting good at pickup. Maybe even if you’re advanced.
Earlier this year I was getting a few one night stands a month and even had a bit of a harem on rotation, which means my skills were probably above average, but I wasn’t happy. It’s actually been a long time since I’ve been alone with a girl I wanted and didn’t get at least a make out, but I still didn’t feel very fulfilled.
Lately I’ve been focusing on just meeting people and inviting them out. Socializing with a lot of people is teaching me better social skills, making me generally happier and even getting me laid more consistently (had a threesome recently and had a couple near threesomes over the last couple weeks).
Pickup is very difficult, has a steep learning curve as you mentioned and it’s exhausting battling hours of LMR to get a ONS. But if you socialize with a lot of people hookups often seem to magically “just happen” as part of the fun. Something to think about.
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@kant —
Well put. One thing that often gets covered-up is that cold approach in a ‘hostile environment’ is one of the hardest way to get laid. (This is for marketing reasons, I think.) Mystery got into this because he was trying to hook up with the top LA club hotties, the kind of girls who are going to social events you aren’t being invited to.
Even a small amount of status & validation goes a long way, and friendly environments like house parties or group barhopping are much, much easier. Simply knowing someone in common is often all you need to get a solid in with a girl. Otherwise, like Lumpy said, you have a “10-15 second” audition.
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kant, that’s my problem too. It feels unnatural to me to talk to random people I know nothing about. I usually don’t have problems once I get the ball rolling so to speak, but building rapport with strangers is odd for me. It’s different chatting up people in a supermarket and people at university that you met once in a while and with whom you probably had friends in common.
My father has this preternatural ability to talk to random people. Each time he goes out, he returns with a story about what jokes he heard or told to random people like cashiers at the supermarket or other shoppers, office guards etc. I’d like to replace some of the people I’ve been hanging out with since university because they’re not as fun as I’d like them to be. This means meeting new people that like to have fun outside of an university setting and it’s an uphill battle because all the social skills I have are context dependent to being a student. I’m a bit in a rut right now because I don’t have much time to work on getting a new social group.
What’s good about pickup is that it teaches you general social skills too. If you develop your inner game, it will help you a long way with socializing in general.
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40YO Nurse Update. So here is the email not text that I got this morning.
“My name,
I’m finding that with everything that is happening Between two jobs and three boys now I just don’t have the time for rendezvous’ and a dinner. I apologize and hope you find what you are looking for in your play time.
Her name”
So at first I was going to say this was a surprise. But now not really, since our arrangement was not a big time sink for either of us. I knew she had flaked on me twice, and then had the long text about all her family problems last week that headed off another meetup. I have been really cool not chasing not texting a lot. I even sent her the text saying we would get together once she gets her stuff sorted out. But I cant help but think she is trying to get me to chase and white knight. Especially when the last text from last week spelled out all of her many problems.
My analysis is that she wants me to chase and I need to dispel her of this like the others. I really need to learn how to set their expectations up front. I know I contributed to this with our first contacts early on. Offering to give her advice and being all beta and such.
My prediction is she still wants me but she also wants a provider. My plan of action would be the same as the others. Just ignore for a while and then start texting her sexy stuff again and then when I have the time maybe a month from now just invite her out. And keep it sexual and flirty and fun. Not respond to any white knight stuff or regular items. Not sure how to respond to this email. I am thinking again send her the text saying “ok sweetie, I know you have a lot on your plate, let me know when things settle down.”
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@yareally update for today. Hey brother I started putting plan “get flakey back” into action already. lol
So today my 40YO latina responded to my whos this text with her name. Then we had a flirty sexual text exchange. Nothing too much of substance. Just tried to keep it light and sexual. Still working on my text game. But she was very responsive. Here is the exchange below:
Her: Hi honey , this Is ____ ____10:18 AM
Me: Well hello there you sexy thing…have you been behaving yourself? 3:30 PM
Her: Hi honey I beem great and you , how are you baby ? 3:38 PM
Me: Doin great…just flirting with you and getting into trouble 3:44 PM
Her: Haha, I like that honey 🙂 3:45 PM
Me: Lol that’s what all the girls tell me 😉 3:51 PM
Her: All the girls , I see been busy honey , it doent surprice me you are very handsome 🙂 4:45 PM
Me: You know it babe 😉 8:58 PM
Her: Of course I do hehe 8:59 PM
So a little context. The entire time we were talking and seeing each other before she was always very sweet and flirty with me. She just flaked on me twice. She was always so complimentary sometimes it made me think she was just bullshitting me. But she is a latina and they do know how to treat their men. Also she is from Chile and speaks good english but remember it is not her first language. And she got really sexual on our last date before the flakes.
But as you can see she is very receptive. And ready to play already. I will let her set for a few days and then flirt with her again. But as per the plan I am going to work her slowly.
No word from 33YO prude after her greeting text yesterday. I am hanging tight on her.
And a word on my 24YO Redhead. I am going to hold off maybe another week before I ask her out to drinks. I have been reading the ebook you referred me to and I am getting into the part about getting people to do what you want them to do. And I keep thinking how all of these chicks I have trained them to betatize me and treat me like a beta. And what a struggle to get out of that mode. I want to try to avoid doing that with this Redhead. If you have any suggestions on how to get off on the right foot with her that would be awesome.
Thanks again.
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@reco – which book is that
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@thrust:
From one of my replies to reco:
“If you want to read more on the idea of punishment/reward and bringing order VS allowing chaos to flourish, I’m a big fan of some chapters of this free eBook:
http://manhood101.com/principles101.pdf
Specifically the “Order VS Disorder” chapter and the chapters under “Authority – The Proper Male Form”, “Function”, and everything under “Part III: Applying The Solution”.
This is my personal favorite in-depth breakdown/explanation/guideline for this topic and it’s helped a lot of my internal frame in dealing not just with women but with men too. I think it’s an excellent guide to how to properly enforce your boundaries and understand that you’re not a bad person for it, other people need you to do it and to do it competently instead of haphazardly.
I really recommend it to anyone who finds they have trouble with respect. It’s espeically effective when you deal with highly feminine women who tend to be a lot more up and down in terms of emotional rollercoasters and constantly testing you or bringing you drama. I generally don’t have the same problems with these women that other guys do, but it’s because these sections of this book helped me understand the underlying shit that’s going on and how to properly help bring order to their chaotic behavior.
I also think this is a great read for older men because a lot of it will go over the heads of younger men who are still figuring their own shit out and first experiencing tests and such. For older men with some life experience, there’s a lot of “hey, that clicks to me, I remember dealing with someone who was like that”.”
Also two videos describing it’s principles, but the books go into better depth and give actual “how-to”s:
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Good book recommended by yareally
http://manhood101.com/principles101.pdf
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She’s right on you with the responses. Nice.
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@Amy yeah she has always been very receptive and flirty and complimentary but she has flaked on me twice. Hence why we are doing the yareally game plan.
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The sad part is that it’s transparent from the kid’s manifesto that he didn’t try anything from RSD unless he did it in such an autistic way that I missed it. lol
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He never even approached women. Basically he was sitting around passively waiting for someone to approach him (like he’s entitled to it), and I think we can all imagine the kind of vibe that little creep gave off.
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Hey YaReally,
I’m just curious…from your posts it seems like you’re exclusively focused on nightclub game. Why is that? Do you just enjoy that more than you do daygame? Or do you think that nightclub game is the best way to get access to the most gorgeous girls?
In a big city one is bound to encounter 9s and 10s during the day at the right location (parks, cafes, etc.).
Also, do you think as one gets older one should transition to daygame? Or is that a limiting belief? I’m 27 and still climbing up that learning curve, but I suspect once I get a bit older daygame will start to make more sense.
Anyway, any clarification would be great.
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@Cquility
“from your posts it seems like you’re exclusively focused on nightclub game. Why is that?”
Nightclub outfits:
Daytime outfits:
Nightclub in the winter:
Daytime in the winter:
Finding women to approach in a nightclub:
Finding women to approach in the daytime:
🙂
“Do you just enjoy that more than you do daygame?”
I like the energy and the vibe and all the hotties. I was intimidated by it at first, but every guy is.
“Or do you think that nightclub game is the best way to get access to the most gorgeous girls?”
There are hot girls in the daytime, but you spend a lot more time looking for them and they’re a lot more dressed down and covered up. I like to see girls done up because I like to screen for girls who like to dress up because I am shallow and appreciate women who enjoy dolling up for me when we hang out lol
“In a big city one is bound to encounter 9s and 10s during the day at the right location (parks, cafes, etc.).”
That is a true statement. In smaller towns it’s less likely, unless it’s a college/uni town.
“Also, do you think as one gets older one should transition to daygame?”
Whatever you’re comfortable with. When you’re like 40, it’s probably cooler to be connected more. So you roll into a bar/club and you know the bouncers, bartenders, manager, waitresses etc. and are the cool older guy who has his shit together and seems like a guy to know. Rolling in anonymously solo would still be do-able but I imagine it would be a lot harder to feel comfortable in like, a nightclub full of 21yos.
“Or is that a limiting belief?”
I’ve seen old dudes kill it. It’s all inside your head. I have buddies a few years younger than me who are too self-conscious to go to nightclubs or just hate the environment/people and feel more at ease in a pub. But I love the nightclub environment and there are plenty of clubs that cater to the 25-45yo demographic these days (since so many people that age are single with money to burn now) if I want to hang with an age-appropriate crowd.
I’ll probably transition to daygame down the road and slow up on nightclubs and stick to bars/pubs more, but I’m only early 30s right now so I don’t expect that to be for a few more years.
My buddy (30yo) and I just picked up two 20yos the other weekend. We told them our ages and they have boyfriends. They didn’t care because we’re fun and don’t act like guys our age normally do (given up on life, run-down and worn out, complaining about the noise and being tired and the bar is too crowded and wah wahh wearing shitty clothes that they wear to the office with bad grooming etc.). Most girls who guess our ages guess us to be mid-20s and are mind-blown when they find out our real age. Is it because we’re just incredibly good-looking with flawless young babyface skin? lol no, it’s just that we don’t feel old and they feel what we feel, so they assume we must not be old.
“I’m 27 and still climbing up that learning curve, but I suspect once I get a bit older daygame will start to make more sense.”
Daygame is great, it has all sorts of different challenges to it like everyone being able to overhear your conversation (self-consciousness), having to keep your state up when you can’t find suitable targets, avoiding accidentally hitting on underage chicks (lol), stopping people from whatever they’re doing and trying to hold a conversation, nowhere to run away if the interaction is awkward and you’re like sitting beside them on a crowded bus, etc.
But it also has all sorts of different good things, like there’s almost NO obstacles…no loud music, no cockblocking friends, no AMOG competition, no drunk ADD girly shit, no crowds, very few bitch shields, etc. Plus you get way more bonus/confidence points in the girls mind when you approach during the day where that’s ballsy behavior VS when you approach in a nightclub where it’s expected and they’re often less receptive just due to the sheer amount of attention they have to deal with all night.
I’m great at nightclub/bar game, but I know that when I get back into daygame it’s going to be an uphill battle and it’s going to basically feel like I’m starting over completely from scratch so I KNOW there’ll be a solid few weeks, maybe a couple months, of growing pains just to get back into it and get over the Approach Anxiety and such.
But I also know that once I get past that I’ll be having a blast and it’ll be an awesome skill to have and I’ll be pulling chicks regularly with no problems.
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@YaReally
Thanks for the breakdown re: daygame vs nightgame. You’re absolutely right about the trade-offs. Not sure if you read some of my earlier posts, but even as a relative newbie I feel very comfortable doing multiple approaches at a nightclub, getting rejected, recovering, and eventually landing a girl (albeit never above an 8).
However, daygame approaches when women are stationary (like, sitting down at a cafe when I am walking past them on the street) is a total Approach Anxiety mindfuck for me. Especially at the kinds of places with families. Like you said, the fact that people can overhear everything, and there might even a bit of beta sympathy for the girls who aren’t as comfortable putting up bitch shields if im creeping them out or annoying them.
My biggest fear is doing a daygame approach in front of my parents while we’re all at a cafe. haha. I’m sure the RSD types would be like… ok that’s what you gotta do.
P.S.
Got a nice lay last night with a girl with MASSIVE anti-slut-defense. I’d been trying her for three nights (not consecutive). First night, had her in my bed with her cuter friend…we all just cuddled and made out. Second time, I got naked but she kept her clothes on. Fucking finally I broke down those defenses but it was not easy. She claims shes still in love with her ex-bf…
Take home lesson….
When the girl changes her mind once you go get the condom, and says “actually you know we really shouldn’t be doing this” or “this isn’t a good idea”
fucking AGREE with her… agree and amplify while you plow through physically “I know its a horrible idea blah blah… but I so want to be inside you (escalate escalate) and bam.
I think I learned that from an RSD vid. But it popped in my head, and that split second decision to AGREE rather than “no its a good idea” or “itll be ok” probably made the decisive different between a lay and cuddleville. Amazing how that works.
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@Cquilty
“fucking AGREE with her… agree and amplify while you plow through physically “I know its a horrible idea blah blah… but I so want to be inside you (escalate escalate) and bam.”
Ya my buddy actually just got burned with this last weekend. Had a girl in his bed, was escalating, tried to get her pants off but she wouldn’t budge. Said she was “a nice girl”. He said “nice girls can be bad…” and she wouldn’t budge, because he was trying to logically debate/convince her. He realized after “shit, I should’ve said “I’m a nice boy, we really shouldn’t be doing this..” and keep going”. Agree & Amplify and she would’ve probably gone along with it. it wasn’t that she didn’t want to fuck him necessarily, it’s that the way he tried logically debating/convincing her forced her into a frame where she had to logically debate/convince herself and shut down.
It’s similar to Boyfriend Destroying, where if a girl is complaining about her boyfriend you shouldn’t talk smack about the guy ’cause the girl is likely to instinctively defend him (you might make fun of your little brother but if *I* make fun of him it’s like woah hey buddy back off that’s my little bro only I get to make fun of him).
Instead you Agree & Amplify like “ya he sounds like a really nice guy, I’m sure he’s just jealous because he’s worried about losing you. You’re probably the hottest girl he’s ever had and he just doesn’t want other guys talking to you because if he lost you it would devastate him” (making him sound lame and in scarcity and desperate without insulting him), and then she’s likely to go “no you don’t understand he’s NOT a nice guy, this one time he–” and she’ll go into more stuff about how shitty he is lol
So good on ya, remember that lesson for the future. 😀
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“In related news, Elliot Rodger never faked out a girl with a phony handshake.”
Very arrogant comment, CH. I ask this honestly: do you fully understand determinism or are you still believing in free will? It would be nuts for someone like you to critique other topics scientifically and then turn an eye to that which might humble you, but it appears that’s what you’re doing, because you don’t seem to understand the simple fact that you could have very easily turned out to be an Elliot Rodger (any of us could have) if the circumstances had fallen that way.
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He pussed his pants saying hello!
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Your projection belies your mental state, not anyone else’s.
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do you fully understand determinism or are you still believing in free will?
Given the fact that Catholics have fun and Calvinists are a bunch of arrogant sadsacks, I’d say that free will exists.
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“Question” is also the name used by one of the dumbest and most predictable trolls over at Vox Day’s blog.
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That’s a cry for help.
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But, you know, the shitty sort of cry that women have learned to prefer. “OMG, hurry up and help me you bastard”.
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You can toggle your mating value a few points (+1 or 2), but real alphas (male 10s) will always be alphas and betas betas.
Sorry PUAs.
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Neil Strauss unavailable for comment.
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Off-topic: Allah is a beta god! An alpha God would assume the sale…
“The purely human origin of the Koran is further suggested by the very human defensiveness displayed by its author. He never tires of reminding his audience that the Koran is a genuine revelation, not a fake one. This obsessive concern with the Koran’s authenticity is exhibited on almost every page…But what sort of author feels compelled to tell us ad nauseum that his word is not a human invention? It’s not likely that the Author of all Creation would be so insecure about what he had written.”
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/challenging-koran
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Is this guy for real?
Maybe it is to convince the dumb infidels that this one actually IS real.
Seriously though, it’s one thing to not believe in it, it’s another thing to come up with a hamsterizational excuse for it.
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well fuckistead of usual cryptic I love you on the collect call shit
my girl said tomorrow her court appearance so maybe getting out time served
also
I just
started
my
period
son of a bitch
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ok back to
I love you good night
yea that fit perfect he he he
you better be at court tomorrow
I love you good night
he he he
I am about fucking in the wild as it gets god dang
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made couple from scratch angel food cakes with the preggers chick last night for her coming home if she comes home
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preggers chick got house pretty clean too laundry folded clothes
told her it would probably be hotter watching her and my girl making some angel food cakes than both sucking my dick she laughed
held her in my lap told her I appreciated her she reached back played with my hair
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You know, I actually started to doubt myself about my reading of Rodger as a homosexual after reading yareally’s explanation as to why he likely wasn’t one. However, when I read articles like this one: http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/05/27/fox_news_homosexual_impulses_analysis_of_elliot_rodgers_is_too_absurd_to.html, I can’t help but really wonder if I was on the on the right track. Why must these lying liars pretend his being homosexual isn’t at least somewhat plausible? If they were smart, they would use the mere possibility as further agenda cudgel (I.e, society is so oppressive that it made him both hate women and, even if gay, his own self). But, no, they say so absolutely not possible it isn’t even worthy of being suggested. Why is this? Are they so afraid that even the possibility that a maniac might be gay therefore means all gays are maniacs?
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I think the issue is that much of what pushed Elliott away from hetero lifestyle pushed him towards the homosexual lifestyle. So it’s just how you perceive this separation.
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He stabbed his male roommates to death.
Gay.
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girl didn’t have much of an ass on her but if she did, I would have grabbed a handful like this guy did on the first chick:
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Haha, good shit.
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Yes, but they want to reinstate patriarchy, while I am overjoyed at its demise.”””””””
some dude ch knows
yea patriarchy that created divorce laws and child support obligation yea lets rush to reinstate that
lol been enslaving men since forever
how bout we try something new and not enslave men
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I’ll just add if I walked around wearing a T shirt that said “I love me” on the back, I would fully expect to get smacked.
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I’m ready to believe you.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/05/27/inside-the-manosphere-that-inspired-santa-barbara-shooter-elliot-rodger/
hey you one famous nig now for giving all that advice to a dude who hated your advice
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its actually reversed they are doing it to get people who feel that way to read ch
to maybe feel better
kind of like telling someone you know will go against something you say to not do something you want them to do
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and get ho’s pregnant someone got to keep the divorce industry going
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I think it is hilarious thy got the divorce and shit disclaimer on every article now at least listening somewhat but then say but that’s not what we are talking about here in article
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(Important note: MRA sometimes, though not always, describes a push to reform divorce, visitation and alimony laws — clearly separate issues from what we’re addressing here.)”””””””
from the article lol
how the fuck could it not affect peoples lives and how you not kill because of it
well I guess its like me my company tried to kill me I wanted to kill them they threw some money at me I didn’t want to kill them
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“Important Note:”
Nothing I’ve seen you comment is important. A bunch of garbled, unintelligible, verbal masturbation? Yes. Important? No.
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yea see the marks at end someone else wrote that shit
well I don’t think about you nor know anything you comment so there really is what about you that anyone would know you exist cept to try and make your one comment dumb
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thank god for th streets imagine having to still work with these passive aggressive pieces of shit
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yea maybe internet does need closed down ya can never get any satisfaction punching someone in face fucking with you
its just so bitch feelin try to deal with shit people but ya can’t use violence
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Wow, the Castellain made it to the big leagues.
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Random question: can girls control if they develop an emotional bond to a guy they have sex with?
For instance I can fuck a decent looking fuck buddy or some decent girls on vacation and be pretty chill…
Do girls have a tougher time controlling that? I feel like they can control it but idk
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Girls generally have a harder time controlling that than men do, but some girls can do it more easily than others. Girls who are ok with a string of casual hookups aren’t going to be quick to emotionally bond through sex, or they wouldn’t be into those RLs to begin with.
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Give this 3-5 years and a device that translates in the flesh will be developed. Finally, skirt chasing won’t be limited by language anymore. The world will truly be our oyster then.
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The problem with all of these types fo devices is that they need a large amount of compute power and storage, so you have to connect to a back-end system. So to have real-time translation from language 1 to 2 requires connectivity. So for skype it’s ideal since you require a connection to the back-end as an integral part of communication to begin with so this is the perfect setting, but in a social setting, you would require a large bandwidth connection. Still a GREAT step forward – heck, I’ve used my cell phone with Google translate, as a fall back when in China and that sucks except for various places… Fortunately most Chinese women are more then willing to take the time to try to communicate – at least with a white guy. One of many reasons they (Chinese women) are top on my list at the moment. But usually, it’s where-ever I have to be for any amount of time.
Oh – the guy in the video/gif at the beginning is perfect. Everything he did you could do in almost any setting, but you would ideally want to have a video since women would swear that you swatted their butt, even if you didn’t. Rule one, women lie… Like dogs… Just accept it and use it to your advantage – that’s why you never want to be the BF, and always want to be “the other guy”… 🙂
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You underestimate the amount of computing power and storage you have in your pocket right now, and the amount you’re going to have in a few years.
It’s more a problem of writing a custom software for most languages. If you actually speak both languages you see how crude current translation software is because it doesn’t get the context very well. So you will need a lot of custom code for most language or some sort of intermediate language.
Also, throw in the problem that you’ll use a lot of the subtext…
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A similar incident occurred a year earlier at a Starbucks, where he saw a young couple standing in line, kissing.
“When they left the store I followed them to their car and splashed my coffee all over them,” he wrote. “I was panicking as I got into my car and drove off, shaking with rage-fueled excitement.”
This is the most dismal prick ever.
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Was that the part where he literally wrote that he ran away “in fear” immediately after the coffee toss? I was rolling!
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Liberals reduced to unintentional self-parody.
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/27/white_guy_killer_syndrome_elliot_rodgers_deadly_privileged_rage/
“White guy killer syndrome: Elliot Rodger’s deadly, privileged rage
Can I go ahead and scream yet? It’s time for America to admit what it’s long resisted: White male privilege kills
…
And make no mistake: From my standpoint as an armchair therapist — having read transcripts of Rodger’s videos — his anger is about his failure to be able to access all the markers of white male heterosexual middle-class privilege.”
So the desire to get laid, in a 22 yo male, is really about class warfare.
“I’m also saying that white male privilege might be considered a mental health issue, because it allows these dudes to move through the world believing that their happiness, pleasure and well-being matters more than the death and suffering of others.”
Right, every white guy is as insane as he was in the end. Likewise, white guys are the ones who drive America’s consumer culture, in blithe dismissal of factory farming, horrific animal testing, sweat shop child labor, blood diamond mining, etc. I always wondered why all advertising was targeted at white males, and thus chock full of jokes about women and minorities.
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Meanwhile, in a faraway land known as “reality”:
http://homicides.suntimes.com/2014/05/26/week-in-review/
“WEEK IN REVIEW: 11 murdered throughout the city
Posted May 26, 2014, 9:30 a.m.
Ten males were shot to death and another was fatally stabbed last week in Chicago. Another man died from wounds he suffered during an earlier shooting.
Three of the people fatally shot were boys under the age of 18.”
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/elliot-rodger-and-the-creepy-world-of-the-pickup-artist-20140528-zrqg1.html
sigh….
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Rude, crude and lewd… but always looking to trade up. The nail in the coffin comes in at 5:50.
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Did you hear hear the sound of a middle finger being lifted up? It almost sounds Amerikan like, huh…
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http://www.theage.com.au/world/elliot-rodger-and-the-creepy-world-of-the-pickup-artist-20140528-zrqg1.html
and so it begins. fucking hate the leftist australian media.
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Main stream media attacks on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/27/opinion/lindin-misogyny-rodger-killings/index.html?c=homepage-t
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Can you read English or Latin?
Oil remove
Shred tear
Radiation vapor air
It’s the fear
So unclear
Man in motion
Going nowhere
In our homes
Stuck in the face
Spread the dirt to populace
Yellow journal yellow journal
Set the pace feel the rage
Manifestations of a sort
So insidious off the point
Simple solution
Never confusion
Sport a gun kill a cop
Crazy world of weary thought
So receive me had enough
Lock me up
Lock me up
Rot and assimilate
Hot to annihilate
(tear your face)
Rot and assimilate
So hot to annihilate
(hit with mace)
“is it safe?”
Deviation tonic mess
Prolonged existence innocence
See he who speaks
Isn’t weak
Wheelchair future so to speak
Bubonic plague
The truth of AIDS
Community avoid decay
In the trench of pestilence
The bible screams
Announce your faith
Mutterings of death to bring
Suffocate a new born thing
Degradation of an age
Venereal
Its all sensation
Protect design
The moral plan
Infallible
As propaganda
Completely black
With no steps back
Hot to Assimilate
[?] (go nowhere)
Rot or Annihilate
(tell yourself)
Hot to assimilate
(search your soul)
We’ll rot or annihilate
Agony
Inner thinking brain
Clanking change
Growing pain
“is it safe?”
Bloodshot
Mutterings of death to bring
Suffocate a new born thing
Degradation of an age
Venereal
It’s all sensation
Protect design
The moral plan
Infallible
No propaganda
Completely black
With no steps back
Agony profusely stains
The inner thinking of the brain
Accusations, clanking change
Experiments with groans of pain
It’s all preferred that no one blames
The terror in an animal screams
In cages our future
The answer’s insane
Rot and assimilate
(grow up)
So hot to annihilate
(hide your truth)
Each adds assimilate
Rot and assimilate
(each one assimilates)
So hot to annihilate
Reach for an air way
Death death death…
Why are you scared? It’s not so dark outside? Well, it is, it’s 4am so yes, but the SUN also RISES! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_Also_Rises
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Amanjaw Marcunt weighs in on Elliott:
http://prospect.org/article/how-pick-artist-philosophy-and-its-more-misogynist-backlash-shaped-mind-alleged-killer
I wonder if Amanjaw would be willing to jump in a time machine, go back to 2013, and get it on with Elliott in order to prevent the murders from happening. Elliott wouldn’t have a hot girlfriend in this scenario, but perhaps at least getting some (bad) tail might make him think twice before going on a rampage.
I think that’s a fair question, and if Amanjaw says “no” or “eww” or “beta!?! run away!” then it proves she hates half-Asian people and isn’t willing to protect the children.
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It’s also interesting how the feminists once again make it all about them and THEIR problems.
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I wonder what the people here think about the e-mail that our host received. What could his father have done that “made it much worse”?
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I have a question for YaReally and anyone else who would like to chime in.
Lately I’ve been going out and meeting girls, most now in their 20’s. All are hot.
My game has been tight. Attraction, rapport, number close.
Here’s where it gets difficult.
I have these text chats where I’ll open the girl, ping text, then suggest a meet up.
The responses I’ve been getting are: “I’ll see….” “Need to check” “we’ll see” “Let you know….”
You get the idea.
So I’m not sure whether this is 20’s girl flakiness or whether there’s something I’m missing.
Here’s a typical one:
Me: Hey, out having cocktails.
Her: “sounds good”
Me: Let’s meet up when I’m back. When you free to cause trouble?
Her: “haha. not sure. Can cause trouble any time
Me: Will be out at the club. We can go for drinks after.
Her: When you going?
Me: Friday or Sat.
Her; I see. MIght go Fri.
Me: Ok. Don’t step on my feet. We’ll go for drinks after I make my announcements
Her: lol. We will see
Me: You can buy the first round.
Her: Winking icon.
Ok. This is verbatim. But all the texts follow this basic pattern. What’s up with these girls not confirming? I left it at that. But it’s pretty luke-warm considering this particular girl was giving major IOI’s when I met her and even wrote out her number…
I’ve had 3 like this in the last 2 weeks.
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“Lately I’ve been going out and meeting girls, most now in their 20′s. All are hot.”
Nice. ’tis the season.
“What’s up with these girls not confirming?”
Drinking is boring and pedestrian (unless it’s an industry wine tasting or craft brewery/vineyard/distillery tour, and even then it’s not really going to get the good brain chemicals flowing). She wants to feel something when she’s with you.
She has to eagerly anticipate the next meet because it’s going to be such a fun new experience because you’re such a cool guy that she was lucky enough to bump into at that particular moment. She believes in fate.
Number close should coincide with specific near future event (that you made too enticing to pass up), something cool that you already do/have planned where she can tag along (and pay her own way). This will differentiate you from all the other guys she gave her number to that week that just want to take her drinking and get in her pants.
” Let’s meet up when I’m back. When you free to cause trouble?”
Automatically low value as you’re catering to her timeframe. She wants to fit into yours.
You should ping and she should immediately suggest the aforementioned event because she was thinking about it because you made such a big impression on her just by being you and doing what you do.
“Will be out at the club. We can go for drinks after. ”
How many times has she heard this before? This message could have been sent by any guy she’s ever met. Your limited words should be recognizable as only coming from you.
e.g. “favorable conditions this sat. good for first time climbers who don’t want to die”
” You can buy the first round.”
Why should she? Drinking is fine, if it follows something exciting.
“you buy the first round, if you’re still alive”
HBs in their 20’s have tons of options. Can you really blame them for not being overwhelmed by “let’s go get a drink” game?
You have to stand out without trying.
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@walawala
Get her in state first. Talk about some shit, build some rapport, flirt a little, get her in a good mood, THEN pitch the meetup:
http://yareallyarchive.com/2014/4/#comment-heartiste-546932
Girls, esp young hot ones, have like 20000 events they’re invited to every week and most of those invites are just random throw-out invites like you’re sending them. ESPECIALLY on a Fri/Sat night where her girlfriends haven’t even decided what they’re going to do yet.
Us guys plan out on Monday where we’re going to drink on Friday, because we don’t have a dozen club promoters and girls we’ve met inviting us out to a dozen different bars for a dozen free drinks or rides in limos or bottle service or dinner or whatever.
Try getting her out for either a weeknight (like a Tuesday or Wednesday), or if you want to do Fri/Sat, state-pump the FUCK out of her Friday night around 8pm (that’s when her and her GFs are sipping wine while they finish their hair and picking out their outfits and are having their boy-talk lol) and just get into a quick back and forth (no aloof txting, respond instantly) and get her laughing and in a good state. She knows you invited her to shit so if she can make it, she’ll come there or ask you if you’re still going etc. to confirm and then you just say “ya, wear something sexy or I’ll tell the bouncer not to let you in ;)” (doesn’t matter if you have no actual clout to do this with, you’re just teasing and giving her a challenge/compliance thing to make things more exciting/fun for her because she has to impress you now0
Be prepared to deal with befriending her group and possibly a long as fuck night if you party with them on a Fri/Sat lol
Good luck!
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@YaReally Thanks. What’s the response to “We’ll see” or “Not sure”?
I’m suddenly getting this.
I suspect because it’s girls under 30. The ones over 30 usually confirm something.
The 20’s girls aren’t saying yes or no.
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@walawala
Never mention it again. Assume the flake and don’t txt to confirm plans or anything. Act as if you never ever asked them that lol Like don’t do radio silence but just don’t talk about that meet-up, just make her laugh and build rapport/comfort etc. and flirt.
They know they had an invite, if they decide to make the time they’ll ask you “so are we still on for Friday?” and the only way you’ll get them to do that is to get them seeing you as awesome and higher value than their other plans, thru your fun flirty comforty txting.
Then just offer another meetup in a week or two but at a different time/day that might be more optimal, and be sure to do some buildup and get her in state before pitching it.
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http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/05/22/1402569111.full.pdf+html
CH, you might find this interesting.
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Awesome, the fake out ass slap. Then tease her more. This dude has it on lock.
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Holy shit! Heartiste, you killed Maya Angelou!
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It looks like he might brush his arm against her tits as he passes.
Deniable physical escalation.
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Textbook Frame Control.
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You are going to be forever alone *smh*
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