CH gets a lot of phone screenshots from readers eager to impress with their chat acumen (chatumen?) or seeking answers to some or other befuddling parry from a girl. This recent entry is a good one and worth sharing.
There are multiple game principles in play here. See how many you can identify. (The girl’s replies are in white background. These are three different girls btw.)
“Don’t worry, you will” is a classic jerkboy charm offensive. Memorize it. Notice too how the reader agree and amplifies when she teases him about being bffs. And then there’s the massively arousing neg at the end — the supreme disqualification — when he says he might replace her.
Sexual intention signaled.
“Number” is the new “gay”.
“Get to the point” game.
Chicks dig bossy men. Feminists, as per usual, wept bitterly.
Great jerkboy charisma game on display in these chats. Well done, reader. You are an honorary CH viscount.
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Why are they asking for a phone number; don’t they already have it since they are texting the person?
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i’m guessing it’s tinder or something like that.
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It’s facebook chat, notice the colours.
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right. missed that.
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I haven’t seen Facebook in a long time, but I don’t recall being able to PM/chat with people I wasn’t “Friends” with, has something changed? Presumably he didn’t know these girls beforehand, right?
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I haven’t seen Facebook in a long time, but I don’t recall being able to PM/chat with people I wasn’t “Friends” with, has something changed?
No, I think you’ve always been able to chat with people on Facebook.
Presumably he didn’t know these girls beforehand, right?
Apparently not, since one asked, “Do I know you? Lol”
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I know you could chat, just thought you had to be “Friend” first. Guess not.
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no you can send them messages that’s really the same as chat
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You can message someone who’s not a friend, but it ends up in the “other” folder instead of the inbox, and they don’t get a notification.
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How hard is it to get a number? I give mine to practically anyone who asks. But I don’t have some online dating account.
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Give me your number!
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Hmm. No. I was lying for the sake of attention, actually. Shrugs. I’m a girl. Birthright and all.
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Innate dishonesty would surely be considered a birth defect though, would it not?
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“Innate dishonesty would surely be considered a birth defect though, would it not?”
For women, it’s not a bug it’s a feature.
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To the tune of “Creature With The Atom Brain” by Roky Erickson.
Feature of the female brain
Feature of the female brain
Why is she acting so strange
Do you think she’s one of them?
Threw her purse right down
Ripped her heels off
And threw them on the ground
Feature of the female brain
Feature of the female brain
No one bitches like that
No one bitches like that
Feature of the female brain
Feature of the female brain
Feature of the female brain
Feature of the female brain
Why is she acting so strange
Do you think she’s one of them?
Feature of the female brain
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Creature With The Atom Brain
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Think it’s Facebook chat, isn’t it?
When in minimal-effort mode, I like to shorten “Number” to simply “#”
Good stuff.
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I see younger guys ending most their written sentences with “lol” almost in place of a period. Is this a filler like “ummm” or “know what I’m saying” or a safe way of doing a smiley face?
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Shrugs. I hate bad grammar and incorrect spelling, especially because I struggle with spelling correctly myself. I think guys who don’t write properly are guys who cannot write properly. It’s a complete turnoff to me. Why not write well? Are there girls who will like you less for it?
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On this, we agree. There’s a difference between a typo on a post you cannot later edit (such as on this board, for example) and people who legitimately write like GBFM and make themselves look like a fool. One can be concise and to the point without having to devolve into writing like a street thug.
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I hate gbfm. I like people with high verbal iqs.
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So correct him. If he cares what you think, he’ll be more conscientious.
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The two of you commenters should fight it out. @PA it’s because they think the interlocutor is on board, and are trying to establish solidarity in an abstract manner. This usually fails.
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;3
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I’m personally disappointed that emoticons and ‘lol’s work these days. I never use them, ever. But if they do, they do. Guys are gonna do whatever works, so more power to them in that regard. But I still won’t use them, regardless.
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Other than the YKW destroying Western Civilization, this may be the single most ominous development of modernity:
How New Media Are Destroying Our Lives
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3161945/posts
Plato worried that the new media called “writing” would ruin our memories – and he was right.
“If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls; they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks.”
Martin Heidegger and other philosophers worried that the typewriter would make our thinking more mechanical. They were right, too.
Each new medium has diminished man a little – radio made us expect to be entertained all the time; television hurt our ability to concentrate – even as each has added scope, ease and distance to his ability to communicate with others…
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Shit, I’m doing it all wrong lol
I type with perfect grammar/punctuation/etc. in texts. If the girl types like a retard I send “I have no idea what that says. Proofread your shit.” They end up texting me with proper writing and they continue to text their friends with retard-text.
There’s a very specific type of girl who’s turned off by “lol”s and emoticons but usually they’re easy to spot (they’re the ones who don’t use them themselves and like extremely dominant men). I’d say they’re like, 10%, it’s a very small number of them. With those ones I just pick up on it and drop that stuff. But like 90% of girls give no fucks.
James Bond txting and standing around in a club with a scowl on your face only works when you have high value. It’s okay to have fun and enjoy life around women lol
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In a room full of winsome lovelies the last thing I’d want to do is stand around texting with a scowl on my face (or even with a smile on my face). Even if I liked and approved of texting. It would be like deciding to start fasting upon entering a high end restaurant.
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“There’s a very specific type of girl who’s turned off by “lol”s and emoticons but usually they’re easy to spot ”
They hang out on Game blogs with dudes they don’t know instead of dating websites.
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I’m thinking that “heh” is more of an alpha sentence terminator whereas lol is shit that 17 year old girls text. Not that I have anythign against 17 year old girls heh
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@Burninator
lol I meant the two actions separately. Trying to be James Bond by txting aloofly, or trying to be James Bond and standing around with a scowl on your face, only work when you have high value.
That said I agree with you, don’t spend your night at the bar txting. Guys should try leaving their phone at home a few nights out…it’s good for shoving in your face just how much you instinctively use txting to avoid interacting with people when you keep reaching for your pocket only to realize “oh right, it’s empty”. None of us had cell phones back in the day lol
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@YaReally
Dropped you a short, time sensitive email. Please take a look in the next couple of days if ya can. Thanks!
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@Lumpy
Check yer E-Mail.
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Why do insist on hating on 007 Ya? I haven’t watched one of his films in a while, but to my recollection he didn’t get the girls by standing in the corner of the casino with a scowl on his face.
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I see younger guys ending most their written sentences with “lol” almost in place of a period. Is this a filler like “ummm” or “know what I’m saying” or a safe way of doing a smiley face?
In some contexts, I might use it, mainly so I don’t come off as too assholish or butthurt. But since YaR uses it, I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as a smiley. Well, other than :-p, which is more like lol
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I always just say (whenever I receive a =P-type text), “Oh, it’s a little early for you to be licking my cock like that. I’m not that kind of guy.” Works every time.
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what’s a p-type text?
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YaReally referred to it(lol) as ‘social lubrication’. It’s very effective with women who are entrenched in digital culture, smart phones etc..
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Just for accuracy, I’ve never used the term “social lubrication”. Lols are fine though. Texting has changed since 2005 when it was a new thing. You can txt a bunch now, and be expressive and send meme pics, it’s all good.
When txting was new it was like people got 3 or 4 txts a day. Txting 10x in an hour was weird then. Now chicks (esp the young ones, but even the older ones) are txting constantly, and probably blow through 100 txts a day in total. You don’t have to restrict it to one or two aloof txts…carve out a chunk of time and be memorable, just make sure your txts are solid and use game and push things forward instead of just being gay fluff talk.
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My mistake, my memory failed me. I searched, and it was from here, but from the Chateau.
#3
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/reader-mailbag-valentinos-day/
Q: why do chicks “lol” so much in txt convos?
A: It’s social lubrication.
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I’ve got a few like this: “I’m not giving out my number” or “it’s too soon to give you my number”
My response is to leave it. Then just “k”.
If you can sense that she’s being playful ok. If she’s insisting on a photo or being a cunt…leave it and move on.
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“I’m not giving out my number” or “it’s too soon to give you my number”
Ok, well how about your letter then? (Sesame Street Game FTW!)
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How about tech support chat game?
Example : Hi Mehgyn, are you the chick in the photo?
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I got introduced to a smoking hot girl at my weekly party. She was tall and visiting.
The guy who introduced me apparently was chasing after her at one time and chasing after my ex gf.
He introduced me. I was kind of languid. She was beaming.
This herb kept saying “Look at his (mine) eyes popping out of his head….”
The girl was embarrassed. I kept my cool and said…”Is he always like this?”
Then I grabbed her hand and pulled her on the dance floor with “I’ll protect you….”
She was so flirty.. we were eye-fucking each other about 3 inches away. Since we are both tall and the same height I kept pulling her close and teasing her about stealing all the food in her family to make her that tall.
After amping up the attraction and some rapport…I left her and never talked to her for the rest of the night. She’s visiting for a week so figured I’d run into her over the weekend anyway.
But my other friend knew her and said “These girls have better game than you..”
I wasn’t sure whether she was flaunting it for me to get me to chase or whether those massive IOI’s were real.
But unfortunately logistics and my own spider sense that I didn’t want to appear too eager had me playing it cool as fuck.
I will see her over the weekend and will gauge whether this is general friendly-girl super flirty as my buddy suggests or whether this is something I can turn into something.
I was quite proud of myself for not falling over myself to chase her….not sure how I kept it together, just basically let that herb kind of DHV me by DLVing himself.
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My question is: Is there ever a time when it’s NOT advisable to escalate and instead wait for a more clear signal? The fact the girl’s friendly could mean she wants to dance, or she wants to be chased or she wants attention…
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Escalate. The only “clear signal” you need to not escalate to is rejection. Anything less than rejection then keep plowing forward.
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And by rejection I mean full monty rejection, not her playing coy or hard to get. If she knees you in the crotch and vomits on your head as you double up in pain, laughing maniacally and telling everybody in earshot that you are “creepy”, that’s rejection. If she smiles with an “Um….no” while batting her eyes at you, well, that’s not rejection.
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@Burninator Why I hesitated was that this was a little “too perfect”…I hadn’t even started gaming her and she was already in my face, major IOI’s, responding to the teasing….something told me she was trying to get me to chase so instead I bided my time and played it cool.
Also, the fact the chubby herb was giggling like a hyena when he introduced me lead me to back off…he was saying “Isn’t she hot??” I was just smiling at her and ignoring the herb.
Finally she’s in town for a few days…I can re-engaged tomorrow if I see her without being eager.
When she left she didn’t say goodbye so I wondered if this was her natural friendliness. However, I did watch as other Asian herbs approached her for dances and she was NOT in their face, holding their hand or giggling at everything they said.
In the past few weeks when I did escalate I got flakes so wanted to avoid the lameness of hitting on the visiting chick without a bit more comfort built up.
I invite comments because it’s a new situation for me.
Normally I would escalate.
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I may have misunderstood, I was taking “escalate” as “progressing with the pickup strategy”, which would include some level of comfort at some point.
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@Burn I escalated with kino, negs, comfort and asked her to dance for two sets.
By “escalation” I meant number closing, inviting her out after the party etc.
I think I will take the temperature tomorrow if I see her. But something just didn’t feel right about escalating to something more sexual at that point in time. It would have been “cliché”. She is hot. A tall flight attendant, and built. She gets hit on all the time.
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at a certain point a person has things locked, then its a matter of isolation so you can chloroform her and put her in your early 90’s panel van. if its a tricky situation b patient and let her find a way to isolate or let her seduce you.
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with the short window, might have wanted to close out early. they know if they’ll fuck you or not basically once you show up and start blabbing. if its a one-off type of encounter, leave it all on the court
the only time its really worth tapping the escalation breaks is co-worker, local barista, neighbor etc where repeated interactions are expected and feeling out rapport until 100% certainty keeps you from shitting where you end up having to eat.
But my other friend knew her and said “These girls have better game than you..”
whats that about, your friends a cunt
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@YaReally and ballocaust. Thanks. This situation does fall into the “social circle” where repeated interactions are expected” category. I will see her again over the weekend.
My concern was that being THAT friendly was odd. I have game but for a girl to basically be all over me after that herb pedstalized her in front of me about “meet my super hot friend…wow you’re eyes are bulging out of your head I can tell hahahahahhahaha” was odd for me. To escalate would have been too predictable.
As for the “these girls have better game than you…” I think my short friend has crap game and struck out with her before so figures she’s like that with everyone. I just didn’t want to appear too needy in the face of all the orbiters around her. If this pans out over the next few days I’ll share any learnings.
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@walawala
“My concern was that being THAT friendly was odd. I have game but for a girl to basically be all over me after that herb pedstalized her in front of me about “meet my super hot friend…wow you’re eyes are bulging out of your head I can tell hahahahahhahaha” was odd for me. To escalate would have been too predictable.”
That’s why he did it. He was trying to make it awkward for you to escalate. I use this one all the time. “wow, your boyfriend (even tho I can tell he’s just an orbiter) doesn’t like me flirting with you like this” “oh he’s just a friend!!” Or “oh sorry man is this your girlfriend (when I know he’s just an orbiter)? No? Why not man, don’t you think she’s hot? Are you gay or what lol You wouldn’t fuck her??” etc. (this is just if the guy is an asshole lol)
Aaaaand, well, it WORKED on you. He made it too awkward for you to escalate that night so you didn’t bang her, which was his goal. 🙂
But you’ll make up for it. Hell I would even use it and when you get into an private convo with her be like “I was attracted to you from the start, but I didn’t want to be all cliche and hit on you the first night. I think it would’ve broken Herb’s heart. Besides, I had to make sure you had more going for you than just your looks…you (insert qualifier or cold read here about something that isn’t her looks here)” and turn it into a solid SOI/qualifier. Makes you look socially aware and discreet too.
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@walawala
Bone her. Tall chicks don’t meet cool tall guys often. Their choice of guys is already whittled down to a small percent in their mind because shorter guys all have height complexes around her, and tall guys are just as commonly beta as any other height guys so if you’re her height and cool, she’s probably up to bang. Be physically dominant with her (even just pulling her in to cut the space and lead her and kiss her), esp in the sack, she probably doesn’t run into that very often (if ever) because she’s too tall for most guys to do it to her.
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@YaReally
One other question. For my upcoming event, the guy who I accused my ex gf of cheating with bought her and about four other “friends” some guys and girls…tickets to my upcoming event.
This guy is the same herb above who introduced me to the hot girl. I have no clue now whether they ever were together…are together….or whether in fact they are just “friends”.
But what should I do?
1) Should I just take the money from the herb and ignore ex gf.
2)Should I tell him I’ll take all his money apart from the ex gfs or what?
3) Should I confront her about this?
4) Should I just not give a shit, take the money and have a great event regardless of whether she’s there or not?
She seems to be deliberately trying to stir up drama by having this guy buy her ticket instead of doing it herself.
Any insights into this would be great. I’m a bit pissed…rattled. I had just been starting to get over her….now she gets the herb to get her a ticket.
Should I care or do I just proceed without another word on this?
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@walawala
“But what should I do?”
Which of your options is reacting and which are not reacting?
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@YaReally.
“Not reacting” would be…take all the money, thank the herb. Continue organizing the party…DHV the fuck out of any other girl there because I’m bringing two of the coolest musicians in their genre….and NEVER EVER mention, look, or react to the crazy ex gf again.
This is a clear provocation. I did “react” last time…perhaps rather badly.
Now…continue as planned, continue organizing greet all my guests and hopefully some hotties will also join.
It does bother me. On the other hand…I now see maybe she was telling me the truth… her was chasing her. But she used this to blow up the relationship.
On a side note…that same herb…is the guy who introduced me to the tall visiting hottie.
I think he just chases hot girls who use him as a kind of beta provider—like my ex getting him to buy tickets for her. When we were going out SHE would be the one to organize everything for me.
That?
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@walawala
““Not reacting” would be…take all the money, thank the herb. Continue organizing the party…DHV the fuck out of any other girl there because I’m bringing two of the coolest musicians in their genre….and NEVER EVER mention, look, or react to the crazy ex gf again.”
Yup. Good man. 🙂
“This is a clear provocation. I did “react” last time…perhaps rather badly.”
Yup. lol There’s no GOOD reaction. If it’s a reaction at all, it’s bad.
“It does bother me.”
This is why ideally a guy who ditches a one-itis finds a way to not see her every week at their weekly parties lol This chick will have hooks in you until you literally haven’t seen or heard from her for like 6 months straight. You are NOT in an ideal situation to wrap this one up with a bow and not dwell on it anymore, but I understand you have social obligations that make it difficult to not run into her so you just have to keep asking yourself “is what i’m thinking of doing reacting to her (good or bad, any news is good news) or not reacting?”
“I think he just chases hot girls who use him as a kind of beta provider—like my ex getting him to buy tickets for her.”
Ya, every girl has a bunch of these guys. These guys are stupid lol…but convenient. If she needs a ride to my place to fuck or we go out and I don’t want to pay for drinks or she needs someone to bitch about work to or I need someone to make me look better, these guys come in handy lol
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@wala
“She seems to be deliberately trying to stir up drama by having this guy buy her ticket instead of doing it herself.”
gee, do ya think?…lol…
“….and NEVER EVER mention, look, or react to the crazy ex gf again.”
‘ignoring’ your exgf has the potential to seem butthurt (which is ‘reacting’)…have a plan for when she gets in you face/space…cuz she will, just to get a reaction…lol…ESPECIALLY if you seem to be cool about everything…
“Any insights into this would be great. I’m a bit pissed…rattled. I had just been starting to get over her….now she gets the herb to get her a ticket.”
so what?…beta<alpha…but again…so what? unless you want her back…
"Should I care or do I just proceed without another word on this?"
What do you WANT?
do you want the exgf back?…lol…if NOT (and i think all of us guys rooting for you would recommend that…lol) then you just need a plan…a head plan, not a heart plan…cuz your heart's too raw right now…
my advice on BPDs is 'polite indifference'…treat her like you would treat your buddy's grandma…lol…that's about as 'nonreactive' as you can get…lol. (think…beige wallpaper…lol) focus on your mission (having a great event…)
but that might be too hard…if the wounds are still fresh…
is the tall chick going to be there? game her instead…focus on good feelings with her, instead of trying to avoid the bad feelings with exgf…
or you could do the 'YaReally shuffle'…lol…and throw girls at other guys in the venue…lol…now, THAT'S DHV…just plan a vol cel night and give it a try…you lose one night, but on your terms…plus you'll get a BIG social circle DHV bump…from the guys too…lol…and if you've never done it, it really does up the group fun factor…lol…
or at the minimum throw your exgf at the herb (tell your exgf "wow, you guys make a GREAT couple")…lol…or someone else in venue…lol…that's probably the best way to get over her given the 'social circle' nature of this situ…assuming that you really DON'T want her back…lol…
doing that will get you a few things…first, it's active not reactive. you've made the decision (with your head…big head that is…lol…not your heart/emotions) and you are following your plan.
second, it will train your brain to not see her as a HB that you want, so the pleasure centers that she's been able to hit stop reacting…
third, it will break her (and your) cycle of 'chase me' expectations, since you are pushing her toward other guys.
this doesn't have to be a big drama either. in fact, it's better if it's not…lol… she walks up to you to get you to react. you smile, and say 'hey, have you met ___?' make the intros and 'back turn' her…easy out…she's forced to ignore you and talk to the intro'd guy or react to you and chase you…lol…plus you look like a socially savvy event planner/host to every one else…
"You are NOT in an ideal situation to wrap this one up with a bow and not dwell on it anymore, but I understand you have social obligations that make it difficult to not run into her so you just have to keep asking yourself “is what i’m thinking of doing reacting to her (good or bad, any news is good news) or not reacting?”"
good advice…so have a plan/game this stuff out so you are not caught off balance…how many pages in her rolodex can she use at your event? plan for them…active beats reactive right?…
good luck!
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Help/Question need to analyze my experience
So I’ve been going back and forth with this girl for a while.
We went out 2 weeks ago made out nothing more. We’ve
never fucked, and when I try to hang she is out of
town or I’m too busy.
She came to an event/graduation art show, I had an art piece in.
We flirted talked – her friends were there and I could tell also
other guys who she probably made out with or fucked before
were there either that or beta orbiters. She’s a bit
of attention whore. I ignore her most of the time.
So right before she leaves she flips me the middle finger –
I smile and do the same she walks away. I go around pick
her up move her away to some bushes so no one sees us.
She tells me she is leaving with her friends I kiss her
and it is short and she is a bit reluctant. I’m not a PDA
guy either but I felt I had to assert myself.
I text her about 30 minutes after
Me: Ditch ur friends.
Her: Ehm. who is this?
I text her the day before to come to my event.
(trying to be playful at this point cause I’m lost)
Me: Santa Claus
What the fuck happened? I figure I should just erase her number
at this point, but I want to know if I was too aggressive or just
get some insight.
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@Mas I’ve had a similar set of situations.
I didn’t make out with the girls. But I have number closed and then they flaked.
I don’t think you were too aggressive. Without seeing the body language or the game technique I would only say that in my own experience girls need to have a re-ignition of attraction and some type of comfort…push-pull.
In your case flipping you the middle finger was an IOI. She didn’t run away when you made out with her in the bushes.
I think she wants you to chase.
A good move would be to back off for now and let HER re-engage. If she does, then it’s on.
If she doesn’t, leave it, play it cool.
LIke you I have a big event coming up. That is a DHV. There are a number of girls coming to it. Just play it cool.
I had another series of strange experiences. I gamed a cute girl, tried to number close, was all about jerk-boy charisma. Got nothing.
I didn’t see her for 3 weeks, then suddenly she’s like so glad to see me. But I’ve played it cool. I don’t want to be some girl’s dancing monkey.
You may need more patience and to spin other plates.
Your art show is a major DHV, lots of opportunity for pre-selection.
Don’t ask her to go….I asked a girl I was gaming to go to mine and she thought it was “too expensive”…so I never brought it up again.
My ex gf hasn’t bought a ticket and I WON”T ask her to come….asking these girls to come more than once is a DLV.
You’re an accomplished guy, that’s a DHV. Don’t lose value by chasing.
You ask…if she doesn’t respond or says she’ll think about it…leave it. She wants you to chase.
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Was she smiling when she did this? This is either a playful ioi (as Wala claims) or she’s slightly peeved at you. Either way, the door is still open. I don’t care for your “smile and do the same” gambit, personally, as it just mirrors her frame and leads nowhere; I would have grinned and given her the “come here” waggle with my finger to bring her to me, but everyone has their own style.
I don’t care for this at all. You have a good venue and a whole room full of people to play with and use to make a good impression and you’re scurrying around in the bushes. This would make sense if the two of you had already fucked or if her buying temperature was higher from an earlier interaction and you were going for big escalation, but out of the blue like this it seems awkward and might scare her away.
Yup. She’s reluctant because you guys had one date with only a makeout and now it has been days and you’ve basically dropped back to square one. This is forced rapport, and its poorly calibrated.
Doubling down on the out-of-the-blue aggressive pursuit is just hurting you further. You don’t have anywhere near enough value to make a girl drop her friends for you (note: I would never use a line like that, but – again – styles), and now you’re edging close to being a ‘creepy’ stalker who can’t read signals. Where’s the fun? Where’s the comfort? That makeout sesh from days prior might be fresh in your mind, but if she’s a high value girl, that wasn’t even a blip on her radar. Her tank is empty and she wants you to fill it with good emotions and excitement, but you’re trying to jumpstart her anyhow.
Some of the higher-level guys might chime in on how to save this, but I’d give this a very long rest before attempting to re-engage (if ever), and I would rethink my approach entirely. Good on you for pushing your boundaries and going after what you want, though.
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The middle finger was very playful, she stuck out her tongue, I know
I thought of that after the interaction – should’ve told her to come here.
Thanks for the advice.. I was going to text her back today, but I think you’re right about “giving this a long rest”. I’m deleting her number out of my phone and moving onto other ladies. She’s def not the hottest girl I’ve dated, but it’s when cute girls have brains.. She is a filmmaker which is a huge attraction quality from my side. Were both troubled creatives.
Any suggestions on learning more about calibration, I feel I struggle with
this the most. I also know the answer may be – go out more/get experience.
I’m turning 31 in a week and my goal is to get this part of my life handled better. It’s always been in waves 6 months really good – attract a lot of women, then 8 months of struggling, plowing. Get’s frustrating sometimes.
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This is a great reply.
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“Where’s the fun? Where’s the comfort? That makeout sesh from days prior might be fresh in your mind, but if she’s a high value girl, that wasn’t even a blip on her radar. Her tank is empty and she wants you to fill it with good emotions and excitement, but you’re trying to jumpstart her anyhow. ”
Ya. She wants to “see the whole movie”, not just skip to the end: If you can’t pull her for sure that night logistically, don’t escalate too far…leave her wanting more.
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I love escalating slowly and make girls yearn for more. It makes future rendezvous far more fun. If I know a girl would like to kiss at the end of a date, I often just slide my fingers along her face or neck and go in for the kiss, but stop just short of kissing and then make up some reason for why I don’t think kissing her is ok.
I do go in for the kiss if I feel like she is DTF, but otherwise I prefer not just kissing. If I do the above trick, I let her convince me to kiss her. If she pleads really well, I tease her again before kissing her. There are some moments when trying to escalate or being aggressive simply kills the sexual tension between you and a girl.
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ah you shit the bed on this one holmes. hook pretty much nailed it.
you were good up until the drag her to the bushes part. would’ve left it at smiling and flipping her off back and hitting her up later or waiting for her to come to you.
your value was climbing there for eliciting frustration tingles for inviting her to the event and then blowing her off. you had value through your work being in the show and demonstrating abundance mentality/not orbiting her for scraps.
then, you cashed out too early with some awkward ass bush kiss.
it has not as much to do with aggression as neediness. she was feeling it when you weren’t concerned with her and were doing awesome shit with your life.
you lost that momentum by feeling compelled to assert the attraction with an immediate make out. seemed to be more about assuring yourself you had value (beta) than reaping the fruits of your value (alpha) as they come
you killed any momentum by the immediate pingback to try to hustle up the ass. this screams of desperation, that shit they don’t like.
the ehm whos this is her saying, i can’t believe i almost submitted to this flustered ass nig, let me see if i can knock him down to omega by showing how little i think of him as he did to me earlier
go ice cold and see if she circles around, that lead is on life support unless you resume indifference and that can make up for yer former thirst
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Yea.. some of this is right on point ballocaust. I feel it’s dead in the water – she sniffed my “neediness” and man is that a killer. I’m done with her, but it is good to analyze this for the future and also somehow when I know these vibes/feelings/body language/etc come up – try to combat that or fight it as best I can.
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i wouldn’t sweat it, she sounds like she’s running modern yougogrrl obnoxious game instead of coming with the femininity anyway. wouldve had to be some real good trim to put up with a chick that thinks flipping the bird is cute.
some manosphere dude had a post the other day; along the lines of before you do something rash, think, “is this icy?” and adjusted accordingly. being aloof can become second nature with practice, and frees up your mind / energy to focus on the endeavors that keeps new ass coming in
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ballocaust is right. flipping the bird isn’t cute. it’s a red flag that she’s got a bad attitude. move on.
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Who the hell kisses in bushes anyway? Beta move. If you’re all that, you can throw down in front of people and it’s no big deal. Bushes just screams “high school” = DLV.
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she was already leaving and was standing by them. I just moved over more so her friends and other orbiters would be out of view. Already said not a PDA dude, never will be – it’s just not me.
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I’m with ballocaust. Flipping the bird isn’t cute. It’s obnoxious. Move on and take it as a learning experience.
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seeing as it was an art exhibition, text her to explain that your behviour was an expression of post-modernist angst in a bourgeois over-sexualised plutocracy, and that if she didn’t get the reference to Yeo’s “Bush” http://ivecomesofar.blogspot.ie/2010/07/porn-in-usa-by-artist-jonathan-yeo.html she’s nothing but a mere pleb.
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Ask for contact information instead.
If she gives you any answer related to “her number” Say:
Whoa there, I just wanted to know about your suppleness.
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I realise it’s not polite to ask someone to explain their joke/punchline, but this isn’t an easy one to decipher. skin2skin contact or something?
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Its not polite to ask if they have crabs either but it is contact info.
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Obviously the jerkboy routine works well with texting/tinder/other. Do you need to maintain this level of jerkitude once you actually interact in the real world?
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Works for me.
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yes. that is what separates the wheat from the chaff. any guy can act like a boss in the relatively lifeless communication that is text. the text game alone doesn’t do shit if your frame falls apart in person
its when you say this shit and really mean it, face to face, pussy pheromones wafting, having to use yer vocal chords while making dat dere fierce eye contact.
jerkboy isn’t a routine that gets you laid, its a state of mind of not taking this shit too seriously while still defining the frame in a manner that says you won’t be fucked with.
chicks dig it, because its simultaneously projects disinterest (ie options) and dominance.
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Congruence is key. It’s actually even worse than not being a jerkboy online either than being one online and being subservient in person. What I find awkward is that due to this, I treat women worse than I treat my male friends. It’s rather ironic. If I stopped doing it though, they get bossy though. Give a woman a hand and she will take your whole arm.
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How does the Facebook game work? I always thought that it was a social circle thing but judging by these chats girls are hooking up with strangers there?
I might need to resort to online stuff because lately I’m just not seeing the women. I try to go out when I can but always end up being “that guy” sitting alone at the bar. My friends are in different parts of the country and I’m a little old to be hitting the nightclubs.
Facebook is probably a non-starter for me but is Tinder accessible for guy approaching 30?
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yep tinder is a goldmine man
iv nearly lost all interest in going out because im meeting so many girls on tinder
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I have a weird hang up about making online profiles with the intent of selling myself in the dating market. It just seems so pathetic. It also seems like it removes all the mystery of your character (Here’s what I like, Here’s what I dislike, Please pay attention to me).
I never really tried online game so I can’t knock it but I just can’t grok how it works.
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At cryo,
I still prefer approaching in real life because you know exactly what you’re getting when you get it. But nothing will help you build up your abundance mentality like tinder and you need NOT spend hours filling out your profile. Chicks prefer to fill in the blanks on their own anyway. Brief cocky/funny aloof answers will get you swiped in no time.
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Tinder is the sexual marketplace turned upside down, and not necessarily in a good way. Girls have to choose you FIRST before you can ever communicate with them, so expect to get weeded out based on the most meticulous personal preferences that would never come into play in daygame/nightgame. Want that hot 10 who’s 19? So does every other guy who swiped right on her, and its a good bet that one of them is closer to her physical ideal than you are and will get the nod. You lose all the advantage of standing out and being masculine that you would get from approaching her in person.
Aside from strategic placement of pictures, Tinder is basically anti-game. It will either reinforce your belief in your good looks and make you lazy, or it will make you feel like a mangy and unwanted stray dog. The girls I’m currently banging would have all swiped left on me, guaranteed, because I’m blonde and not over 6 ft. I’m currently dating a hot redhead three inches taller than me who claims to only like tall ‘brown’ guys, and she’s gushed repeatedly that she can’t believe how irresistible she finds me. No one can see my swagger or hear my voice via Tinder.
If you’re having trouble with daygame/nightgame and are already worried about your age pre-30 (I’m 39), I think you need to delve deeper into the archives, work on your inner game and start putting yourself through some rigorous field tests etc. Check out the YaReally Archive via google. If you’re a ‘hot’ guy Tinder might get you laid, but its not going to teach you anything and eventually you’ll have to move on and do some actual work. If you’re an average looking (or worse) guy? Tinder is going to chew you up, lol.
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Thanks man. I am a good looking guy, though not tall. You make some good points about falling into anti-game tendencies. I much prefer day/night game but I just don’t have the social proof or connections to make it work now. I’m trying to fill my life with new hobbies and interests, hopefully that will present some opportunities in the future. I’ll check out the YaReally archive too.
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my housemate is 39 and besides looking younger than he is, his looks arent great to say the least and from interacting with him i couldnt see his game being all that great. yet he still kills it on tinder
yes looks are important on tinder but all you need is some strategic photos that make you looks good (like the fat chicks use). another one is to put up photos of yourself with a guitar or something like that (ye its dishonest but all we are trying to get are hookups here)
also disagree with the tinder making you lazy point…its great text game practice and beside from the rare occasions where the girl just wants to meet and fuck from the off, you will still need to game her when you meet her for drinks or whatever
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Good text game. Let me help.
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You hang w girls who duck niggers? What’s wrong with you?
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@cryo, I’m in the same spot as you are. Re-organizing my life by getting hobbies conducive to higher value and that are venues to meeting new people(e.g. being athletic and involved in sports did this when I was in high-school, getting good at ballroom dancing would now). In the same time, my friends seem to start being concerned with having a family in their mid 20s, which I find incredibly early, although some simply do it to check they did it on a list and continue sleeping around and whatnot, but I don’t want to be that guy in a social group that still likes to live life all the time, instead a night a week or once at two weeks.
For example, 2-3 years ago I could have gotten a group together to go out of town and get drunk and party easily. Now everyone has a different agenda so I need to meet a bunch of new people and refresh my skills and interests. I hope it works out well for you. What hobbies did you think of? I want to learn to dance well and to ride on horseback, but the latter is rather expensive where I live. Meh, the part of life where meeting and sleeping with fresh women requires effort is beginning for me. lol
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Re your other comment,
If your dating profile is “Here’s what I like, here’s what I dislike” then you’re doing it wrong. Just as you would when practicing in-person game, be fun, original and ambiguous. Online dating presents a unique opportunity in that you have all the time in the world to think of something good to write, so you’ll never have to resort the robotic beta responses you probably fall back on IRL when you have can’t come up with anything better on the spot. It’s definitely worth trying.
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cryo wtf you in the prime
well 38 might be prime
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waking around with my chick today after getting her hair done colored flat ironed eyebrows done 80 bucks new dress 25 bucks
nails done 45 bucks
my dick kept jumpin in my pants lookin at her
I think I just hit my prime at 38
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Arguing over women.
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@cryo in Asia…Tinder is for busy people who are up for a chat. I get mostly Indonesian maids who only have one day off and are looking for some provider. I did meet one hot one and made out. I also met with a few newbies to the city who I guess use it as a quick way to meet.
I’m late 40’s. The girls I’m meeting on it are in their 20’s.
My photo is a cool shot in shades. If they match I use a standard opener to filter out the cunts. If they’re still up for chatting I move them to whatsapp and try to get them out.
It hasn’t been hugely successful but I did meet 3 girls…made out with one, one was horrible to be with—just a nasty arrogant cunt…the third is a 25 year old maid who flaked on me when we finally did set up a time to meet but keeps texting “wanna fuck” and “I wanna suck you” every so often to which I respond “oh…”
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@cryo dude I’m pushing 50 and am gaming and meeting hot girls in their 20s. I take Latin dance clAsses and run events. Some type of social circle like this would be ideal to get out and mingle doing something instead of sitting at the bar.
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Hmmm. I liked those girls especially the first one. They all came over as nice. He, our Game hero came across as a jerk, who I wouldn’t want to know.
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how would you respond to such a text:
i know you don’t reply to txts. i write you anyway. i’ve just thought of you that’s why i write. how are you? i’m busy with exams and i’m excited for when it’s over.
i wanna neg her b/c she shit tests me. i was thinking of this:
hahaha, you think i respond to you b/c you got two breasts. half the population got that. i hope you were only thinking nice thougths.
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i mean the goldmine here is obviously not to respond, lzlozl. shit-test by communicating in a way you don’t roll with and seeing if you’ll bite.
that neg sucks tho bro. i would save the neg for later banter.
reframe by ignoring that “r u gonna respond” shit and go straight for the sexualization; i hope you were only thinking nice thougths but a little less derpy
or go with narcissist “thats funny, i was just thinking about me too, etc”
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post got ate. summary:
– save negging for later, that neg sucks
try:
– reframe by ignoring 1st half; I hope you were only thinking nice thougths
– narcissism “i was just thinking of me, too” “shouldn’t you be thinking about exams instead of my (whatever your good part is)”
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thanks. what’s problematic with negging at this point and why does it suck? too dull?
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negging in response to a shit-test like that is a no go always. you’re playing by her rules if she says “i know you don’t usually XXX” and then you do it but complain about it. its like if she asked you to make her a sandwich and you got up and did it while cursing her out. if yer gonna humor her, reframe reframe reframe
that neg sucks because its butthurt as hell. you’re a smooth playa dawg, not elliot rodgers angry incel.
they all know the primary value is ass/tits/hole and theyre competing in that w/ 50% of the population. if you’re going to neg her as an object do it far more subtly and playfully (“youre lucky you have better [asset] than most girls/specific person, otherwise I wouldn’t XYZ”)
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hm, your analogy helped me understand what’s going on better. yes, who does that, being asked for a sandwich and then do it with regret and bitch about how stupid it is to make one. that sounds like drama. reframes i’ve come up with to the shit test:
– today, i threw dice and got a six, you’re lucky
– today, i feel generous and you get an answer
– you ask kindly and that warms my heart (and tickles my fingers to type) [not sure about the last bit, it’s probably too reactive as if it was within her to prompt me to reply]
– i’m reminded of my obligations to my friends [kind of serious]
oops, i got exposed with that. my dark bitter beta side was voiced, at second sight the breast comment is butthurt and certainly not funny. i prefer to be the puppy in disguise and not the barking dog.
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“- narcissism “i was just thinking of me, too” “shouldn’t you be thinking about exams instead of my (whatever your good part is)””
I noticed the effects of this inadvertently. My ex was talking to me about something and I was listening while being engaged in something else and she told me that she loves me and I instinctively said that so do I, but due to the context of her professed love, it sounded like I love myself too, although the intention of what I said was ambiguous. We still laugh about it when we chat.
I have a question for you guys. I usually end things on good terms with girls and I can call most of my exes to talk to while a friend of mine has these epic relationship finales that might include fighting, the police, having stuff thrown at him etc. I kind of always see it coming and tell him, but is he doing something wrong or is he just choosing nutcases? I think it’s a bit of both, but I don’t have much experience with such relationship finales.
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She knows you don’t reply to texts, but she texts you anyway. Fuck your neg reply because it’ll only make you look weak-willed and wishy-washy. When you break your own rule, she’ll lose all respect for you because you can’t even follow your own rules. Ignore her text and she’ll undoubtedly call you. When you get her call, don’t pick up. Let it go to voicemail, and call her back much later, at your leisure. She’ll pick up on the first ring.
From there, you will re-iterate for the last time that you do not play the text game and that if she pulls that shit again, she’s done. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Follow-up by giving her instructions on how she will make it up to you. If at any point she is hesitant or testy, hang up immediately and ignore her completely until she shows up at your place unannounced, bearing gifts.
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solid. i’d be weak if i replied. generally, at what point do you make your intentions clear? what’s the difference between making your intentions clear and being creepy?
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@honoryourdick
The difference is in your demeanor. Never ask her to do something when you can tell her with a command. Before you talk to her, you should envision yourself as a decorated captain issuing direct orders to his lowly private. This will help you get into the right frame of mind when you talk *to*, and not with, her.
When you get on the phone, speak to her slowly and clearly in a deep voice. Do not repeat yourself. If she didn’t catch it the first time, then she’ll pay for it later. She can either listen to you talk or she can listen to the sound of you hanging up on the other line.
By stating your intentions clearly with a low, gravelly voice which is unmistakeable masculine, you’ll come across as an authoritative alpha rather than a creepy, catering beta. Your directness will signal your intentions clearly and succinctly. Everything should flow effortlessly after that.
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Ballocaust gave bad advice, better would be ‘K.’ If this makes you insecure, then ‘L.’ or ‘A.’ should work. Girls aren’t mysterious, they are appreciably weird.
If they follow up, then no, you weren’t talking about the exam. Please don’t say ‘not,’ it’s immature. ‘N’ works, it’s asking for her other number, which is the point of the Monty Python sketch.
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Ellipse game here …
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Maybe you’ll understand this.
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i don’t get your acronyms. k? l? a?
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@honor.. not sure the context of this chat or how well you know her but it just seems a cry for attention.
Girls write shit like this to ping you into replying.
So not sure a “neg” is the right way.
You can ping back: “Having cocktails with a friend…” leave it ambiguous making her think your friend could be a girl.
The point of texting is to 1) get her on a date 2) keep you on her mind from time to time
Text too much and you become her “Siri”….a go to guy who’s always out there when she’s bored, on the bus, between clients or whatever.
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you’re right she is attention grabbing. i know her boyfriend. she confessed to have had an affair with someone else. her bf doesn’t know about it. i don’t know what that was about when she told me about her little adventure. as if i had the power to liberate her from the guilt. or, if she was interested in me we already had a shared secret and i wasn’t being judgy which gave her comfort. i was surprised at the confession and not suspecting it at all. it’s true women grow tired of betas and look for the side dish who is the highest value man they can get.
hahaha, her siri, a sexless dump like joaquin phoenix in “her”. that happend with my girlfriends. i grew too attached to them and startet to lift them up to goddess like figures. enough of that bullshit.
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Jerkboy charm…am at my weekly Latin night gaming 28 year old who’s giving me IOI’s…
Her: Did you dance with that [smoking hot] Korean girl? what was it like?
Me: I don’t dance and tell…what if someone asked me about you?
Her: she was so sexy….
Me: you should dress like that.
Her: mumble mumble…
Shit-test passed.
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MSM feminists and equalists attacking tennis pro for telling the truth: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2080811-ernests-gulbis-makes-controversial-statements-about-female-tennis-players?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_c4
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That was my ex on the last text exchange.
Fuck.
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we’re all eskimo bros at this point, just wrap up the little inuit and stay frosty
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haha
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I’m a not very good looking guy who is somewhat successful with women in real life, and I have always completely struck out on internet dating. My impression is because is that if you’re picking up girls on Facebook or OkCupid looks are everything. Anyone can sound “cocky” in a typed message. If you don’t look like a supermodel, you can distinguish yourself in real life by confidence, tone of voice, etc.
That’s impossible to do online. You think you’re going to be the first guy to contact her who has heard of game? Not very likely.
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That sounds kind of PUAHate if you ask me. Of course you need good pictures and need to be strategic about which pictures you use, but your profile and messages are what’s most important.
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The best way to score replies online is to a well thought-out, but poorly copy-pasted message. Like, saying something about your plans from 2 weeks ago as if were fresh (Like “I’m going xxx for Memorial Day”). I get a 90% response though a good portion of that is girls who are “offended” that I’d copy-paste them. On the other hand if you have a good follow up, you can turn it around.
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I once set up an account on OkCupid and used it to send crude sexual comments and brazen insults to random hot chicks. My profile pic was a cartoon and I filled in almost none of the profile. I got an almost 100% response rate, some of which was actually positive.
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I’ve had the same experience. All these lessons about text game on Facebook or wherever are useless to me, because I have had 0 opportunity to practice any of this. I can throw that hook in the lake all day long and never get a bite.
In real life, it’s a different story. I met some random girl for the first time a couple nights ago, and didn’t take her number, because I didn’t want it. Just as I was really questioning the wisdom of that decision, a girl I had been gaming previously showed back up in my life. She has just been swimming in circles for a long time with the hook in her mouth, and I never felt the tug. It’s in her stomach now. If I don’t break the fishing line….
Yeah, all is not lost for the older married guy who doesn’t look that great on an online dating profile. Girls on those things are either looking to hook up, or they’re looking for beta bucks. Hookup girls don’t and never have gone for me.
That really used to screw with my head, but look at the fish who has my hook in her stomach right now: A pretty 22 year old with a notch count of 1 who is strongly attracted to older men, and fiercely loyal to the man she chooses. Getting her away from that man has not been easy at all, but game principles suggest she should go for the highest value man, and as long as she doesn’t have access to another guy of my caliber, that’s me.
Well, it’s working. She’s working her way out, but if she leaves him, she needs somebody to catch her, emotionally. This girl is not for a one night stand, she’s for keeps.
Zombie Shane would approve. It’s who I am too. My problem has always been trying to divest myself emotionally, trying to look for something cheap and random when I’m a very serious, solid, stalwart man by nature. I’m not for one night stands either.
Commitment from a high value man is part of the contract here. A girl like this shouldn’t be used and disposed of by some player out to grab another notch. She shouldn’t give herself up to one. She should seize her own value as a young pretty girl, and wield it to her best advantage to secure commitment from the highest value man she can get while she is at peak value. I have even told her this in so many words, and I told her this with complete confidence in my own value.
I’m not a dark triad asshole. I’m a real man. I’m glad I finally realize that, and accept that being myself isn’t a lost and hopeless cause. I need to play for keeps, because that is a game I can win, while being some beautiful young dick in a jar is not.
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This is totally the way to do it – straight to the point game. I love it. I don’t see it as being a jerk though, so much as being a man who isn’t afraid of rejection and goes straight for his goals. Also, if a woman won’t give you her number early, she probably won’t give it to you after 20 Facebook chats either. In fact, she’s even less likely to give it to you because the more you FB chat without making your intentions known, the deeper you dig yourself into the friendzone.
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I use Tinder a lot so I’ll give out some advice that will help you guys score with these hos.
Always remember that the way you start with a ho, is the way you’ll end with a ho. In other words, it’s always best to start off with a sexual message or a message that indicates you’re down on meeting her. Kind of like what that guy did with the number.
I did this in the very beginning with Tinder but then, just as an experiment, I tried to converse with them in a “respectable” (fuck, even I cringe at that) manner. Needless to say, these hos wouldn’t respond after a while.
A good way to banter, which will be inevitable seeing as how most girls will not give you their number right off the bat, is using something called: conditional texting.
It’s basically a form of texting where you imply you know her or assume something about what she’s like. For example,I’ll say, “you look like the girl next door who likes a good hard fuck” or “you know what they say about adventurous/mysterious/party girls” or “something tells me youre the shy type”
Obviously, you’re going to have to calibrate your message to the girl. If her bio contains nothing, then you use the mysterious assumption of her. If she has a lot of party pics then you use…eh, you get the point.
Sometimes a girl won’t give you the number even after you’ve stated your intention. What you can do in this situation is something I call, close looping. What it is, essentially, is after she says, “no” you change the subject by sending another conditional response saying, “now I know why we matched.” This changes the topic for a bit and intrigues her more. After this, i’ll segue way into a smooth close by saying, “that’s my type of answer but are you my type of girl?”
After that, it doesn’t matter what the fuck she says. I still go for the close by then stating, “cool. lets see if youre right. Whats your number”
The loop is where I change the subject for a bit, create a segue way for the number and then close again. I will keep looping until I get the number. The line I use to get the number at the end is always different, though. By that I mean, I never say “whats your number” more than once. You could say, “number” just like the guy above but personally, i like “insert number in the slot: [—————]
” better. It’s more playful but at the same time demanding in a way.
Also notice that I never use question marks. That’s beta texting to me.
Many of these girls are super playful because they’re young so always keep that in mind.
They all want excitement, so be playful and not some defensive uptight Eliot Rodger (lol, couldn’t resist). They’re a lot of other key points that would be helpful but these are all the broad strokes to getting them digits.
After all of this, it’s pretty straight forward in terms of setting a time and place to meet up.
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lol, ignore and don’t use the question mark on this statement:
“that’s my type of answer but are you my type of girl?”
i must have typed it to clarify for you guys.
also i read some comments about guys using “lol”. i use it myself, too and that’s because it’s a playful sort of text buffer that everyone uses. Girls use this a lot when they send a message to a guy they like. They will say, “oh yeah lol” or “oh yeah hahaha”.
To put it into perspective for you all. Pretend that a girl said, “oh yeah”. Now, how would you take that? It seems a bit cold when read like that. But when you add that “lol or “haha” it smooths the conversation a bit. That’s all it is.
She’s alleviating some of her nervousness or excitement via ASCII, kind of like how girls giggle or laugh a bit in person when they first meet you.
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If one is texting a girl, one has her number… Try again…
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Read the other comments. They are Facebook chats.
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I’ll start this by saying, I do have other girls I’m spinning – have something set up with a Greek milf 8 on Tuesday, grabbed a couple numbers @ the club last week, could have fucked this one HB8 but logistics were off etc..
The post is long because I want you experienced guys to absorb what I’m vibing here.. and I had time to fuck with @ work.
I’m in a new paradigm – not sure how to handle what I’ve created – looking for insight.
My ex (21) and me (27) LTR’d for 2 yrs then broke up. Now we’re fbs.
The past few weeks, shit between us has been better than anything in over a year. She basically ‘swoons’ for me. The vibes are healthy and she purrs.
The peak came this past Sunday into Monday where she stayed overnight like she usually does after a bang. we left on a high note the next morning – i didn’t contact her until she contacted me this past Wednesday.
This was the day I did police testing – as I arrived, she texted me “haaalllo”. I didn’t respond as i was on my way out to write it. so here the texts:
her: “haaalllo” 3:15
her: “Wooooooow” 8:02
me: ‘hows my lil pornstar’ 8:29
her: “oh just peachy thankyou! Lose your phone or something for 4 hours? wieeerd 9:42
me: was outta town getting into trouble” 10:04
her: more of a reason to text me” 10:10
her: how was it” 10:10
me: tell you tn” 10:23
her: “i cant tn! I’m going in for a colloscopy in the morn, and plusssss I wanted to actually talk to you today, I know you were busy but I figured you had a minute or 2 to talk” 10:37
me: ‘the hell is that” 10:42
her: you know what it is thrust. It’s a pap test at the hospital instead of at the doc, they just wanna keep a closer eye on it cause of the abnormal cells” 10:45
me: will that take the puss outta commish 10:50
her: thrust can you try to at least act like this isnt just for sex” 10:52
her: I feel gross when you talk to me like that, especially from someone like you, who I love ..” 10:53
me: understood, tho you havent answered my q! heading to the gym. was there something on your mind today, you said you wanted to talk” 11:02
her: “no i will not be out of commish. and I just had one of those days that I just cant shake out of it. you usually get me out of it so i reached out” 11:07 (having trouble deciphering that from womanese)
me: sounds like im just a piece of meat to you” 11:07
her: “pardon me?!!” 11:12
me: ya. you use me like a sex panther. always wanting my python. the nerve of you woman. your appetite is disgusting” 11:15
me: 😉 11:32
her: I’m not the one making sure I can still fuck after the pap test. my appetites just fine tho thanks, with or without meeeeat” 11:33
her: 🙂 11:33
me: what are fuck buds for if we cant look out for eachothers jewels” 11:34
her: touche mr. dunn” 11:35
her: I hate that 11:35
Her: that word
Her: ugh 11:35
I ended it here. I wasn’t going to say goodnight or ‘hope all goes well tmrw’ etc. because I’m not her bf – I’m her fb. Simple. After the gym I went to my buddy’s place. It’s there where he told me he drank with my ex and a her gf last night at a bar she frequents.
He was out at a work party etc – said “she didn’t make out with anyone or anything” – but what he said hit me, because I don’t get many 3rd party accounts of her in the wild. no one is there that’s on my side to let me know..
so my buddy is leaving, heading from the back of the bar to the front, where he passes a big booth at the back – he said it was my ex in the middle of 3 guys on the one side, and another guy on her other side. he said bye to her, and with her arms around the shoulders of the other guys, and vice versa, she gave like some shitty peace/gansta sign and said see yah ____! it was at that point my friend said that he now totally understood what i was talking about when i would bitch to him on what to do with her.
he said (natural with over 100 kills) “as i guy – i couldn’t do it – waaay too many guy friends – shes not gf material – too many look-at-me issues, she’s a party girl, you can’t take her seriously, she’s a girl you don’t date + the baggage, she looks like shes 25..”
It was at that point where something in me shifted. Finally, it was somebody else who was agreeing with me, from him observing as well, without me being there..
With that, we enter into this past Thursday..
She calls me at 1:12pm, right as I’m heading out for work. I don’t answer. Then the texts start..
her: you’re being mean to me.. i don’t get if your playing games or something but let me know cause i don’t like feeling this.” 1:22
me: not sure what you’re going on about babe” 1:48
her: Well if you don’t then that’s kind of my point.. we were talking last night night and then you just stopped answering, no goodnight. nothing. call you this morning and still nothing.” 1:50
me: i’m working today, you know that. yea, we’re having a good time together, shit between us hasn’t been this good in a while. tho we’re fbs. fbs don’t have long drawn out flirtatious texts or good nights. bfs do that. you seem to want me to be more than your fb – that’s fine because i want you to be more than that in my life.
but it can’t. at this point in your life you’re a girl i don’t date. you’re a party girl. i don’t date party girls. ill have fun with party girls, but they’re not gf material – the more i give in to treating you like a gf, the more you’re getting the best of both worlds – the scene with your bros, and the scene with me. no one deserves both.
if you show me that you’re ready to ditch the scene with your bros, then ill be likely to show you my love. 2:22
me: in the meantime, you’re still welcome to share fb status with me n see where it goes. 2:23
her: woah i didn’t expect that 2:24
her: nor expect to start crying 2:24
her: I know its been good, that’s why im so into texting you and talking with you. I don’t really know what to say other then i still think about you and love you. I’m a “party girl” because I became single and went out more. I still wouldn’t say I’m a party girl tho.. but I’ve already told you that. 2:28
me: i see 2:48
her: I see? that’s not the most ideal response Ian 2:50
me: lol too bad. you’re a girl i don’t date nor take seriously – wanna change that n get more of me? you know what the first step is 3:02
her: you don’t take me seriously? good to know 3:20
me: lol I’m getting one side of you so why would i – which is why we’re doin well together – I’m not takin you seriously, like a gf 3:32
her: you think if we were together it would still be like this a (sp?) good? Please
take me as a serious person though, cause that’s just a respect thing. like I respect you and take you seriously…… sew 3:38
me: no it wouldn’t work cuz you’re not ready to make the necessary changes – like i said before, one man’s attention isn’t enough for you. i don’t take girls like that seriously – tho yea the respect/attraction is there, and you trust me when we’re in bed. respect someone and taking them seriously as a prospect are 2 diff things babe 3:53
her: I like how you’re talking for me… you know what I’m thinking ? and like I said before thrust is that I can be completely content with one guy if I get the right attention and love from the guy that matters 4:10
me: totally – any girl should. however if you’re looking for an attractive man with qualities you’re wanting – no man will take the baggage you come with – way too many guy friends that are so below the ideal man you’re wanting that eventually he’ll lose romantic interest. like i did in our relationship. 4:32
her: okay i understand 4:55
me: good to hear babe 6:40
End.
Not gonna lie – I still want her as a FB – the past few weeks have been well played. The vibes were great. then this. she got too close to the bf zone (wanting best of both worlds) and i had to back off. She does love me – though the girl loves me in a way that I obviously don’t reciprocate.
I think the last comment I made about her guy friends was the X-factor here. If you want pics for proof I’ll e-mail you guys her instagram name.
So she’s probably pissed about that/how I said I lost romantic interest (whatever), and that I laid the hammer down – except, again, I still want her as a FB.
How should I play this. I’ll see her tonight at the club I bounce – her bitches are getting a bottle.
Should I play it casual – flirt with other girls while flirting with her. Should I wait a few days to send a text telling her to come over caveman style, or saying that yea girl I handed you some RealTalk a few days back, though you’re welcome to be a part of my life as a FB..
thanks
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Here’s some material for you. Aging “writer” decries boring straight white male nerds infesting Seattle and not providing exciting dates for her :
http://www.damemagazine.com/2014/05/23/amazon-killing-my-sex-life
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if that was me on tat thing
I may give you permission to put my name on you if your a good girl
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In any case, the Facebook homeowner in the initial post was getting by on a typo on the word ‘ill’ (‘I’ll’ would have worked, but not been posted on CH, quelle horreur), although by around ‘ganner’ = gunner = clitoris, their interlocutor was somewhat inebriated and unable to communicate. This might have saved a fairly defenestrated outing, except that they then decided that they wanted to act like a de-idealised female. Why could this be.
Anyway, leeches don’t have oneitis.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2644101/Being-ignored-WORSE-bullied-Ostracism-psychologically-damaging-claim-experts.html
“MORE THAN HALF OF WOMEN ARE BULLIED AT WORK, CLAIMS STUDY
More than half of women are bullied or harassed at work – often by members of their own sex, a major poll has revealed.
Based on interviews with nearly 23,000 women and more than 2,000 men, the survey is the largest of its kind in the UK.
It revealed that the biggest enemy facing women in the office or other workplace is often other women, rather than their male colleagues.”
1. 23000 women and 2000 men. See: fundamental premise.
2. I’m shocked, just shocked by these findings.
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How exactly does that work out? One half bullying the other?
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one nasty mean fucking bitch who fucked the boss at one point to get power and nothing almost can be done to her bullying everyone
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They can bully each other.
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Women do appreciate directness. I’m pretty sure the “neg” didn’t matter in there. She was joking around.
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Back in the day (as we used to say back in the day before “back in the day” was a thing), this was a non-problem. Everyone was in the phone book. It’s kind of weird that in our hyper-informational world it’s actually harder to find out basic stuff like someone’s phone number (although Indian “technical support” scammers manage it on a daily basis).
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yea so kind of hit first major snag last night after taking girl to get makeovered up and such
which part of it is that she is overtired hasn’t slept in almost 3 days
more than a few hours. Sleeping like baby now though after getting a shitton of emotions hopes and dreams out and fears
she thinks so highly of me and my abilities that we walked past group of dudes coming out mall and she was looking hot as fuck
and we walking away around mall and dude yells i’m gonna take your girl and i think for second that yellin at me i stop but then dude and his
girl standing there says oh yea i’m gonna get my cousins then and we’ll get it on
i tell my girl thought might of been talking to me for second there
she says naa there was only 7 dudes no dude gonna look at you and say i’m gonna take your girlfriend it just wouldn’t happen
she like if i was a dude i would never walk up to you and say i’m gonna take your girl i’d be like yea you guys are good together be happy dude
so she has irrational confidense in me i mean yea i’d fight 7 dudes and not care but doesn’t mean i’d win realistically
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so I realize today my chick look like Jennifer annistan but more feminine without the too toned arms showing tricepts and shit and square shoulders and more feminine figure
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so her friend in jail she was talkin too is a mudshark but has all white kids told her she was just tired of white dudes breaking her heart been her friend for long time
but after talking to my chick she says she gonna try a white dude again when she gets out
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the three white dudes she has kids with all freaking cheated on her behind her back
she wanted it to work and it didn’t she like some bitch always taking her dude
always willing to fuck her over behind her back
so when they cheat on her and she finds out she loses the love for them and it breaks her heart
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Cool story, ho
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yea shows white dudes can create the mudshark phenomena breaking hearts
be carefull with your younger girl
I fucked mine up prob telling her to get the fuck out when first married
she didn’t cheat or anything
good housewife good fuck just I was tired of her anyway and I wasn’t accomplishing mission but really I could of done it on own like I have I wanted teamwork oh well she was doing teamwork just not what I wanted which was evrything
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secret f life to me free ho’s
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she iike bitches always want whats mine
so when I said about preggers chick telling me she loved me in front of our friends last night it hurt her pretty bad I guess
she scared as fuck
im like she said it in front her dude to piss him off I think
she just wanted to go
then I was high as fuck off weed and talk bout my dick pulsating and shit in front of two of chicks there I grew up with and fucked around with
its like she saw more competition but its like cigstashe competing with a ten
but the problem is in past the dudes fucked fat chicks to cheat on her or any piece of pussy
so its like any bitch can be competition from her past experience
me i was just fucking amazed that just looking at my chick my dick kept jumping up that type of shit hasen’t happened to me in a long fucking time
normally he needs more stimulation than just looking at any chick no matter how pretty to start getting hard
so i’m sitting there and i’m just amazed cause my dick ain’t never fucing been like that bad just having his own fucing mind and shit and me being that hot for a chick
that i have no control over my own body
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really the ten in high school my dick didn’t do that
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when I was tounger or sometimes occasionally my dick would jump up
but not like over and over and over and over in the same day
he he he
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and it wasn’t the weed cause all that day walking around I wasn’t on any weed or alchohol or anything
I’m just that hot for my chick and its some new territory for me
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thinking part of it might be the she really gave up the drugs for me
it is fucking amazing to me too cause fucking really nobody can really get there bitch of drugs
and i’m here finally exactly in the position I wanted to be with her her off of everything but me
and i’m at the final test and my body is where it needs to be to erase her mind and everything in it
my dickon call 24 7 now
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she like ya but thatbitch tried to get you she did everything she could to be me
then you tell me she told you she loved you
she like I don’t care if her dude was there she still thought she could tell my dude she loved him
when she know he my dude
she like that bitch better not come to door
she said I would kill for you and that ain the first time she said it
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we were talkin real
and I really told I love you and we soulmates and we gonna be together for all eternity no matter what the fuck happens on this world
everything you do has been for me and I know that
its fucking hot and I love it I love that even when your bad its for me and everything you think is about me
and even tonight you wantin to leave and being sad and shit was also for me cause you love me and wnt me to feel specil cause I got my chick jealous and you want me to know and its love and it normal and its ok to have these feelings cause its love ad we got it and we fucking togetherand always will be no matter what the fuck happens its always gonn be us
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I’m like none of these bitches could get me
she like yea but she tried
and i’m afraid of losing you
I need you I love you I can’t live without you
i’m so afraid of losing you cause I lost every other dude and i’m so afraid from shit I don’t to you in past that you could use that and just decide to get another chick
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she don’t realize that I don’t really give a fuck about what happened when the fuck ever in reality cause it been all leading to where we are now and its like we to the point of being able to be honest and I wanted to get to point where love slices through all the bullshit and is pure untarnished fucking love the purest love the 100 percent gold with all the fucking impurities gone
just past everything truly to get where nothing else matters but the love and the connection where her brain fucking changes to its all abut me
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nd it has been a wild fucking ride to get here and no other bitch could of given me those memories or played the game so well
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lol shejust woke up
eyes open
staring at me
I smile at her
walked away to go take care of business doin the waddle walk saying my legs hurt so bad
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so close to letting her tat my name on her face they already did the outline to tattoo it I said no that’s my face I don’t want writing on it
she put my name on her wrist instead
covered up the husbands name on other wrist
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Why is this retard allowed to keep posting on here?
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He no soy marinero
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soy capitán
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What we are missing is the profile of the dude, the first one is pure game kudos for that. The last two looks like the dude had a good profile and had some sort of communication over wall posts.
Good for flaunting but thats not the whole story and there’s not any sort of game whatsoever in the last two messages.
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yea its fun to romantize shit to extremes fuck normal
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