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How To Increase Your Beta Male Margin Of Error

June 9, 2014 by CH

If you should understand one thing about niceguy beta male behavior, it’s this: A little goes a long way, especially if it’s opposed by an anti-beta force.

A lot of men are constitutional romantics, and enjoy lavishing pretty women with displays of beta piety. This is a dangerous compulsion to have, as such behavior left unchecked will sour a woman’s love more surely than it will earn her loyal affection.

So if it’s a compulsion you must indulge, you need to a) limit its scope and frequency and b) bracket instances of it with the general demeanor of its opposite; namely, alpha male conceit.

Commenter English Dude passes along a personal observation that illustrates how a man can afford a beta margin of error.

As daft as this is, [jerkboy entitlement] allows the meanest guys to be pretty beta, or completely braindead in other ways too.

Sat behind a couple on the bus the other day, the guy was one of the typical “arseholes” in my area, (average height, early 20s braindead, drug dealer, could hardly string a sentence together besides “U wanna fite? I’ll bang u out” sorta stuff), on the bus with his gf. She was pretty attractive, not as much to me but other people would consider her “hot” etc.

He’d obviously done something wrong as I saw him giving her a pink glittery “I’m sorry” card, curious I peeked over to see what was inside as she was holding it open while reading.

“To my dearest prettiest princess, I’m so so sorry for what I have dun and I promise I will never do it to u ever again

I luv u with all my heart and u will always be my princess forever if u will have me. Lots of luv [guy’s name] xxxxxxxxxxx”

Paraphrasing a bit there and I’m sure it had more “sorrys” and “princess” in that, but it almost made me feel sick at how wimpy it was heh. No idea what he’d done, probably cheated or something. She read it and looked a bit embarrassed but said ok and gave him a kiss on the cheek.

The next month I saw them still together, he was shouting at and hitting her (in public), as well as trying to fight anyone else in the vicinity. Seem them since too, still together..

I completely realise and understand that if I did something like that (not that I would), it would be shown off to ALL her friends (probably put on facebook too) to be laughed at, then I’d end up dumped the next day in whatever rottenest way she could conjure heh.

Sometimes you get trolls and/or knaves coming to this outpost of love to vociferously declaim anecdotes about this one guy they saw who “acted like a total beta pussboy yet still got the girl”. Of the ones who aren’t lying about what they saw, you can bet that a good many of these stories were observed by our intrepid beta defenders missing any vital context. They saw a man nauseatingly profess his love for his girlfriend, but they didn’t see all the other times he behaved more like the chav in English Dude’s slice of life above.

Without that crucial alpha male context, you can’t know that beta male antics are what got the girl.

Maybe then it won’t come as a surprise to know that it’s not uncommon for the most egregious beta male supplication to issue from the hardened husks of some really unsavory alpha males. That alpha male love is a wicked concoction of fury, caprice, selfishness, thoughtlessness, and occasional heady romantic abandon. It works, because beta ballads tend to be appreciated more by girls when they’re rare and unexpected events rather than daily rituals.

What about the opposite ratio? Are beta males who drop stealth alpha bombs attractive to girls? Well, they’re certainly more attractive than all beta-all the time autobots. But the vajmagic (it’s vagical!) doesn’t work quite the same way as majority alpha-minority beta. One, girls will more conspicuously forgive the incongruence of an alpha wolf donning beta wool than they will the incongruence of a beta boob slipping into an alpha push-up bra. The tuning fork of female desire vibrates primarily for “arseholes”, which means that if a beta male doesn’t evince some degree of alpha attitude during the opening salvos it’s probable that the girl’s asexual impression of him will solidify and close off any romantic avenues.

If you’re curious what an all beta-all the time autobot sounds like, here’s an animated confessional of a beta male orbiter with a chronic case of one-itis who started beta, stayed beta, and finished beta, tragically true to the beta male credo that predictability is the hobgoblin of emasculated minds.

You can increase your behavioral beta male margin of error by, in most ways and at most times, acting behaviorally alpha. The more alpha you are, the larger your beta margin of error when you backslide, intentionally or accidentally.

One thing you’ll observe about charismatic jerkboys… when they “go beta”, they do it differently than actual betas. Their sappy romanticism tends to be more self-centered and entitled — “you’ll always be my princess” “we’ll be together forever, and I’ll show you the end of the rainbow” — rather than pleading or appeasing. At the heart of the alpha’s (temporary) beta male capitulation is a throbbing male entitlement that chicks love.

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  1. on June 9, 2014 at 9:25 am How To Increase Your Beta Male Margin Of Error | Manosphere.com

    […] How To Increase Your Beta Male Margin Of Error […]

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      One thing you’ll observe about charismatic jerkboys… when they “go beta”, they do it differently than actual betas. Their sappy romanticism tends to be more self-centered and entitled — “you’ll always be my bukkakekz princess” “we’ll be together forever or until i cumz on your facesz whichever cumz firtsz, and I’ll show you the end of my cockasz” — rather than pleading or appeasing. At the heart of the alpha’s (temporary) beta male capitulation is a throbbing male entitlement that chicks love.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm theasdgamer

        I want one of the Great Checkbooks For Men that Bernazkelolz is giving away.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 5:58 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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  2. on June 9, 2014 at 9:35 am VRW

    This UGLY SON OF A BITCH is banging SUPER HOT CHICKS and basically you are FUCKING STUPID

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:39 am Zombie Shane

      > “So if it’s a compulsion you must indulge, you need to a) limit its scope and frequency and b) bracket instances of it with the general demeanor of its opposite; namely, alpha male conceit.”

      Really powerfully good advice for betas.

      There’s nothing wrong with romance, you just have to do it within the correct FRAME:

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 9:49 pm Cortesar

        My name is Pussy Galore
        This must have been subversive 40 years ago

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 11:52 am Zombie Shane

        > “This must have been subversive 40 years ago”

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control_pill

        1953: December, first issue of Playboy magazine

        1956: The first contraceptive trial of Enovid led by Celso-Ramón García and Edris Rice-Wray began in April 1956 in Río Piedras, Puerto Rico.

        1957: On June 10, 1957, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved Enovid 10 mg…

        1960: On May 9, 1960, the FDA announced it would approve Enovid 10 mg for contraceptive use…

        1962: Sean Connery as James Bond in Dr No

        1963: From Russia with Love

        1964: Honor Blackman as Pussy Galore in Goldfinger

        1965: Although the FDA approved the first oral contraceptive in 1960, contraceptives were not available to married women in all states until Griswold v. Connecticut in 1965 and were not available to unmarried women in all states until Eisenstadt v. Baird in 1972.

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  3. on June 9, 2014 at 9:35 am Harland

    The video doesn’t work. Please test these before posting, thanks.

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  4. on June 9, 2014 at 9:44 am truth teller

    There was a video from a while ago that CH posted of this super jacked dude who created a video of his love for some girl.

    Does anyone have a link to it?

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 10:09 am burke

      if it’s ben ryan you’re referring to, it should never ever be forgotten

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 10:36 am zmbiklr

        wtf?

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:01 am ‘Reality’ Doug

        Holyfuckinwow! I thought is was gay almost porn at first, then I thought he was about to propose and had an actual relationship. Then it got real sad, and I mean in a profound multidimensional way. Women are manipulators. When they manipulate us for passionate sex, it is incomparable, but that’s not all they do. I’ve been smitten by totally irrational ‘love’, and so have you. There is no love at first sight, but there is lust at first sight. Instead, that attractive blonde is almost certainly on the carousel headed for miscalibrated, mentally damaged spinsterhood.

        Btw, loved this line from the OP: “… than they will the incongruence of a beta boob slipping into an alpha push-up bra.” lmfao, but sorta crying on the inside. Why won’t the empire of pretty lies die already?

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:49 am corvinus

        Holyfuckinwow! I thought is was gay almost porn at first,

        Beavis/Butt-head laugh right there.

        I got a kick out of this addition at the very end: “Loren Has Seen This Though I Haven’t Heard From Her.” Uh…

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:51 pm zmbiklr

        I thought maybe he accidentally killed her and was trying to atone, sending a message to heaven, but apparently she is still alive and just ignoring him.

        I think there are a lot of Beta body builders who think muscles and tough guy attitude are the key to women. He reminds me of one that decided to fuck with me and be tough or something when I was younger (he had no girlfriend). He got physical and I kicked him square in the nuts. He whined in pain on the ground for the next 5 minutes “that fucking hurts!” He never fucked with me again and I don’t think he ever had any children.

        I’m all for working out, but if it’s solely to get women, it’s a fucking insane waste of time.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 5:59 pm PA

        I’ve of late rediscovered my late-teenage years’ fondness hairband power ballads. “When I See You Smile” made the film enjoyable.

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 5:50 pm Trent Max

        I could only watch about 30 seconds of that. Reminds me to much of myself when I was 19. That kind of obsession is dangerous, which is why women loathe it.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm A. Friend

      No gay porn could possibly be this gay.

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  5. on June 9, 2014 at 9:49 am Mel Gibson

    The video worked when CH tweeted it last week. Then, the comments were disabled. Now, the video is private. It was hilariously beta. I cringed and laughed throughout. He has other videos on his channel, but I don’t remember his name.

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  6. on June 9, 2014 at 9:54 am Mel Gibson

    OK, found it.

    The video was called “A Relationship Story.” Here’s his “trailer” for it – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shEua048f40

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 12:53 pm corvinus

      Oh, that one.

      I’ll grant that he was able to make out with her and have a “relationship”. But otherwise, it’s the same ol’ common-as-dirt story about a beta who gets hooked on a girl with an abusive jerkboy on-again-off-again boyfriend.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 8:12 am Mel Gibson

        True, but I doubt he banged her. He would’ve poured his heart out in the video about the sweetness of losing his virginity in a missionary snooze/cryfest.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 5:26 pm FamilyMan

        I heard the first sentence or two, cringed, and killed the window.

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  7. on June 9, 2014 at 10:07 am burke

    “if I did something like that (not that I would), it would be shown off to ALL her friends (probably put on facebook too) to be laughed at, then I’d end up dumped the next day in whatever rottenest way she could conjure”

    easy one day break up blueprint, via postal service!

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 10:40 am Charlie Don't Surf

      Automatic Response: Kiss on the cheek, period of silence, “I’m not feeling it”, dry vag, a quick departure, the onset of blue-balls and beta remorse. Play out this scene once – confess it, everyone has – and you’ll see there’s simply no margin for error.

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  8. on June 9, 2014 at 10:27 am 3.2.2.6.

    They were beta. They were also extraverted, had social status, and were about as attractive to females as most other guys who are attractive to females. The correct approach for the hypothetical onlooker is a disapproving glance.

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  9. on June 9, 2014 at 10:58 am blow

    that would be an instant break up for me. no doubt. i’m more beta than alpha for sure but i’m working on it.

    but how do you make amends or start to smooth things over when you need to without coming across as too beta? i really need some advice on that.

    i think i’ve been too tough on my girl and she’s starting to pull away from me. we were having some problems and i went dark for awhile and i’ve been super cold when i do interact with her. she’s apologized a ton and i know she still wants to see me but she’s not like she was. she hints around but doesn’t come right out and ask me when she’s gonna see me next and she isn’t texting as much anymore. i think i told her no too many times and now she’s protecting herself.

    i still want to see her and i thought she’d be begging to see me by now but i think i went too far. i’m not a natural with this shit so i’m either way too beta or way too alpha. i can’t get the right balance and i like this girl a lot. how do I turn it around without coming across as a chump?

    thanks

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:08 pm apollohaan

      a woman who says what she wants directly is out of options. If she doesn’t say she wants to see you, she might want to, but she also knows she has her finger on the trigger to exercise her other options.
      I dont think you were too much alpha. Due to a large and fragile ego, chicks can’t stand rejection. So her asking to see you and u saying no while def a dhv, is also something girls will only take so much of.
      How you describe her behavior, it sounds like she’s texting (read fucking) someone else already and just keeping you in orbit just in case she gets pumped and dumped.
      I wouldn’t apologize to her cuz that fucks up the frame, and even tho you dumped her becuz of something she did, she reenters the relationship as if she’s doing you a favor.
      You still want to see her because you think she’s special. Unless you guys have threesomes on the regular, she’s not. You can’t even assess this situation properly unless you have atleast one other chick you’re fucking. read the CH commandments and keep it movin.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:32 pm A Random Guy

      So things were tough, and you’ve been treating her coldly and like an a**hole, and you can’t figure out why she’s disengaging? And the advice you’re being given is ‘bang more chicks!’ Maybe game isn’t always the cookie-cutter solution? Unless you are just using game as a tool to score lays (some here seem to take that viewpoint), it isn’t always the answer, IMO. I think you answered your own question – if she did something wrong that you can live with, by all means call her out. But there has to be an endgame then. No woman in her right mind is going to keep trying to connect with a guy who is crapping on her with no end in sight.

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  10. on June 9, 2014 at 11:08 am thrust

    OT – I had some drama last night, not sure how to handle..

    Basically, the ex/now fb and I ‘somewhat’ made plans last night. I texted her after the club on Saturday night, after initiating some YaReally/CH philosophy by not replying to every text she sent out. She was building some boring comfort with these texts such as “whats up?” after she answered my initial question. So I answered her, asked her what she’s doing, she answered, then I didn’t reply back. I don’t have to answer every text. Especially a FB.

    Anyhow, here’s Saturday texts after our last text convo on Thursday (she slept over Wednesday into Thurs):

    me: hey kiddo

    her: kiddo?

    me: whatsup girl

    her: at home watching a movie, heading to bed soon

    me: u sad?

    her: I’m just having a night. I’m fine though

    her: How was work

    me: haha good brawl _____’s (my roommate) got stichin to do. Lets see eachother text me after work tmrw

    her: Oh that’s not good! hope he’s fine. I don’t work I’m going to gf’s to swim tho, but ya i’ll text you

    me: cool goodnight

    her: the coooooolesttt! sweet dreams thrust

    That text ended fairly fucking positive. She’s never flaked on me before. Never. Especially a Sunday night.

    I had a buddy over until 12:30 last night, then I received a call from the hospital telling me to come and see my other buddy (musician) who attempted suicide. After he woke up he requested me to see him – me only.

    So I did – it was emotional and fucked up. I’m pretty drained because of it.

    I’m wondering what your take is with my ex/fb. She flaked, and didn’t offer an excuse. Again, despite all the drama she’s given me throughout the years, she’s never done a flake job.

    Only reason I can come up with is she was butthurt over me not saying ‘goodnight’ etc Thursday night – I’d believe it if she was.

    Thoughts? I figure she’ll shoot me a text today explaining why, but if that doesn’t happen then this is extremely fucked and a soft next would be in order.

    Thanks

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 11:29 am thrust

      disregard – stuck in mod land enough for me to figure shit out

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 11:43 am Anonymous

      Flaked for not saying good night? First flake since you known her? Yea right, something else caught her eyes and she wanted a closer look. You got bumped and my play would be dead fucking silence or short replies til she asks to hangout. Leave the ball in her court and dont ask again.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:08 pm ballocaust

      yo i’ve been following your threads and you need to disregard/10 that ho for a while. been there, done that. its anti-game to chase something you’ve already ran through and decided wasnt worth it.

      with exes, the best move is to ghost and let them see if they can worm their way back in to the roto down the line. 90% of the time if you end amicably (read: you do the dumping, >~1 year) they’ll do flybys to see if youre coming up in the game and if so, can they get some more D

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  11. on June 9, 2014 at 11:13 am newlyaloof

    I don’t remember which site I read it from, but I remember it being a big ah-ha moment with understanding beta behavior. It’s also something to teach betas and sons about game. It goes like this:

    Imagine you’re playing kickball and the other team sucks. You’re beating them by 40 runs and it’s not really all that fun since you don’t have to work hard for the win. The same thing goes for girls and liking them. If you put them on a pedestal and act all love struck, you are in essence being like that sucky team who get’s beat by 40 runs. The girls want to work for the attention and approval. Betas believe that willing by 40 runs the easy way is the way to treat women. But women want to WIN the win, not win by forfeit.

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  12. on June 9, 2014 at 11:19 am gunslingergregi

    steal that bitch like I did

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  13. on June 9, 2014 at 11:19 am anonYmous

    i had something similar happen. i was spooning this sloot in the azz while i was pulling her hair and choking her, in a beta moment i told her i loved her, swore i saw a tear run down her cheek.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:28 am gunslingergregi

      if you never say it first and always make her say it three times or more before you do then yea if you say it out blue there will be a tear

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:23 pm blindman

        that’s harsh. i’m sure girls think that way for the most part but they don’t admit it.

        but that’s cold. i can see someone saying that with a casual hook up. but saying that to a boyfriend that she loved? not cool. i hope you dumped her after that.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:41 pm blindman

        sorry gunslinger. that reply was for burke.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 1:41 pm gunslingergregi

        yea np I saw that and figured not or me he he he

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:44 am burke

      this is sick to even recall, but first girlfriend, first lover, teen years, basically i’m head over heels– we said ‘i love you’ all the time. but i for whatever reason tell her i love her during sex once. she stops completely, and asks why i ‘ruined it’. somehow it still took me years to see the true nature of woman

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:28 pm blindman

        i replied to your comment but posted it to gunslingergregi by mistake.

        sorry that happened to you dude. she doesn’t sound like a nice girl so you’re better off without her anyway.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:44 pm gunslingergregi

        yea that is crazoland shit dude
        don’t think you can’t find a chick that can handle some pillow talk that doesn’t always include calling her a bitch and whore although ya can that too

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 1:16 pm blindman

        he’s right.

        i don’t know all the dynamics of the relationship but if you were telling her you loved her all the time it sounds like you might not have been holding a strong frame with her in general so that was part of the problem. but even if she was thinking you ruined the moment, she didn’t have to say it. a decent girl that loves you wouldn’t do that. she doesn’t sound like good girlfriend material. that’s on her, not you.

        like gunslingergregi said, you can find a girl that can handle a little pillow talk and doesn’t always need to be called a bitch and a whore. there are decent girls out there. we talk a lot on here about being aloof alphas and never being beta but you don’t always have to be an asshole with a good girl who loves you. if you have built a good foundation and she is really into you, she isn’t going to be turned off hearing something like that. she is going to love you more and beg for you NOT to stop.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 2:11 pm Glengarry

        “Oh, how embarrassing. I wasn’t talking to you.”

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 6:07 pm Dunderhead

        Dude… I can top that. I said that to probably 4 girls I dated in my 20s during sex. They all dumped me soon after. I cringe to this day at my appalling betatude back then.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 2:05 pm anonYmous

      now that i think about it the tear was from me choking her too hard. and she said i love you too but it was muffled cuz i was choking her

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 2:25 pm gunslingergregi

        I know you were going over the top and were not serious but shit like that happens in real life

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 4:00 pm Canadian Friend

        anonYmous,

        you forgot,

        “…while her mother was watching us masturbating with her cell phone on vibe…”

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 4:30 pm gunslingergregi

        whole time I been typin my bitch been running in and out getting my din din ready doing the grill dance striking poses checking on what food we got left in my dads freezer across street rollin me cigs refillin the drink inviting people over for cookout
        and comin in now asking me can you smell the food
        does it smell good
        and I got to be carefull cause if I say it smells bad that shit gonna be laying in the street hahhaahahah

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm gunslingergregi

        no bs I could make that happen in real too
        life is funny ain’t it

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  14. on June 9, 2014 at 11:21 am Rasputin's Condom

    Alpha attributes aside, I think the real attraction for women is in the taming process.

    Women are innately and biologically programmed with the urge to control men.

    There’s a great since of satisfaction when you “break” a wild horse and train it to do what you want. Then you start riding it, showing it off to other people. “Nice horse! Well trained,” they say.

    Then they (women) get bored riding the horse and realize the thrill and excitement was breaking the beast.

    Men: never allow yourselves to be domesticated. Also, don’t allow a women to penetrate the inner sanctum of your mind and soul (but by all means penetrate her bodily orifices early and often).

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  15. on June 9, 2014 at 11:21 am Steve H

    “because beta ballads tend to be appreciated more by girls when they’re rare and unexpected events rather than daily rituals”

    oh, that this were still the case. now the ladies tend to appreciate John Legend’s “All of Me”.

    Which says, essentially, “I’m a jacked, talented, black stud but I love me a bitchy land whale.”

    It’s getting more beta out here than you think.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:25 am gunslingergregi

      I been getting that song sung to me i’m not seeing the land whale part or bitchy

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:28 am Steve H

        The verses are bad, but the worst of it is right in the chorus:

        “All of me loves all of you / all your curves and all your edges / all your perfect imperfections…”

        I rest my case.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:33 am gunslingergregi

        yea thank god my chick singing it to me then he he he

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:33 am gunslingergregi

        she knows she gets fat its dump time

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 11:37 am gunslingergregi

        You’re my end and my beginning
        Even when I lose I’m winning

        yea def better to have chick singing it

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 5:32 pm Harcourt Mudd

      Well, Legend is married to a supermodel (Chrissy Teigen) so take his ‘advice’ with a grain of salt.

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  16. on June 9, 2014 at 11:32 am Aquila

    A lot of men unconsciously do beta things constantly, so you need accurately assess your margin of error. You might be burning up a lot of that margin unthinkingly.

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  17. on June 9, 2014 at 11:40 am gunslingergregi

    A lot of men are constitutional romantics, and enjoy lavishing pretty women with displays of beta piety. This is a dangerous compulsion to have, as such behavior left unchecked will sour a woman’s love more surely than it will earn her loyal affection.””””””””’

    i’ll admit that is me though

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:57 am gunslingergregi

      but my chick put a spice bottle on timeout on floor cause she tried it on something and I made a face when she fed it to me and really didn’t like it
      told her I didn’t like it
      which is rare on her cooking I don’t like it but yea I think that spice in trash now lol
      just get your bitch trained in all the other stuff constantly thinking bout you
      at party last night
      I get the munchies tell my chick i’m hungry she gets on phone trying to order something
      suddenly she has a mission in life lol she freaking called all these places tryin to get her dude some food
      checkin online for hours of places and shit but yea peoples house we at ain’t got much she still made me a nice little tray of shit to eat out there house stuff
      and made it look good
      before we left she handrolled cigs so we had enough
      my beta moment I let some dude go buy us pack of reg cigs cause she wanted it
      other than that my bear got low my pop
      I was about to get up for beer she pushes my leg I got it baby you just chill
      the new chick that was there sittin across table was def hitting on me
      and put some serious shit on table throughout night lol
      I put the end shit that made everyone quit including me he he he

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 3:48 pm gunslingergregi

      yea think post may be geared toward me a bit and the comment in mod
      my chick is diferent she like an alpha dude
      cept her past men are raising the kids that were made lol

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  18. on June 9, 2014 at 11:47 am Sparks

    I have seen this kind of behaviour in action myself through a longtime friend. He’s always had young hotties running after him and has treated most of them like crap (alpha) but I have overheard him worming his way out of a sticky situation (i.e. he cheated) by really overdoing the ‘but I love you more than anything’, ‘we’re meant to be together’ etc (beta). Amazingly the young hotties lap it up and want to stay with him. In fact it works so well I’ve started doing the same thing myself.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 6:31 pm English Dude

      This, exactly this.

      The lass will stick with the bloke who beats the shit out of her, spits on her, calls her a whore (and means it), fucks her friends, gets her hooked on drugs, ANYTHING.

      As long as when he fucks up, he proclaims undying love and commitment, along with shitloads of apologies, (these guys have no need to “pull a Clinton”). The girl laps it up because they “see the nice guy underneath”, because it’s given to them in such small doses, and they’re so unused to getting it, they STARVE for that little bit of humanity. Going to a “normal guy” after that is no good for them, since it’s not a “rare treat” to be treated like a human being anymore. Contrast game I presume?

      As to the couple mentioned in this post, I haven’t seen them since, but I bet they’re either still together, or the guy has moved onto another fucktoy, (probably leaving her as a single mum). Heck if it wasn’t for this website, I’d have kept my nose out and not even looked. Spotting the pretty pink, glittery card with “Princess” all-over it peaked my curiosity so much at “This is nauseatingly beta, especially coming from this braindead chav, what’s going on here..”, I had to look.

      Some charming psychopaths know EXACTLY what they’re doing with this sort of thing, timing it to perfection (when they’ve done something wrong). I think in this case he was just too thick to realise, and was running on selfishness and self-preservation instincts, appealing to the dumb Barbie lass who couldn’t see through it, (though I doubt any other girl wouldn’t fall for it).

      But in the end? He got the girl, and could act how he did (outright beating her in public) with no consequences. Intentional or not, that’s a “win”.

      And people wonder why so many young boys are turning out that way heh. It’s simple, it works, and requires very little effort.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 7:05 pm English Dude

        Additionally, this is just like the naughty kids at school, who work out pretty quick that 364 days of being a twat, with ONE day of being the best student ever, gets them an absolute shit-ton of praise. More than the “best” students could ever dream of.

        Also I remember the “bottom” group of students, worked out if they paid zero attention or effort in class whatsoever, they got to sit watching videos all day, and even got taken out go karting and on allsorts of awesome days out.

        The school was trying the “positive reinforcement” tactics, and not realising that these kids, although generally thick, had worked out the action / reward patterns straightaway (as even the simplest of animals can). Amusingly the real thickos were the teachers who just kept pandering to them, believing that they would change, and that one day of really being good was “progress”. Even more amusing is that I now realise why, 99% of the teachers trying such tactics were female. The male ones (that hadn’t already given up completely) would have none of it.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 12:05 pm Zombie Shane

        > “the naughty kids at school… 99% of the teachers trying such tactics were female…”

        Nowadays, things have gotten so barbaric that not only will a large portion of the teachers be fornicating with the “Bad Boy” students in the school, but they will have sought out the profession of teaching in the first place [as girls, deciding on a major in college] precisely for the purpose of fornicating with their “Bad Boy” students.

        Stockpile ammunition, because this will not end well.

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  19. on June 9, 2014 at 11:47 am laidnyc

    In a way these “beta” things become important vulnerability game, the closing of a push/pull macrocycle.

    She’ll fall deeper in love because he hinted at his humanity and attainability than she would if he just beat the shit out of her and never followed up with any vulnerability.

    When in doubt be a dick, and always lead with dickishness, but beta tactics can be more than just a margin of error.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 12:09 pm blindman

      “She’ll fall deeper in love because he hinted at his humanity and attainability than she would if he just beat the shit out of her and never followed up with any vulnerability.this is true.”

      this is true.

      those hints of humanity and attainability are what keep her invested. it’s tricky finding the right balance to but you do have to throw in some beta behaviors once in awhile or she will become hardened, disillusioned and eventually she’ll give up and move on.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:39 pm blindman

        in addition to that. i think you do have to add more beta behaviors into the mix the longer you’re with someone or they start to get really insecure. i think there was an article about the ratios of alpha/beta behaviors in the beginning of a relationship versus LTRs but i can’t find it.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm corvinus

        i think there was an article about the ratios of alpha/beta behaviors in the beginning of a relationship versus LTRs but i can’t find it.

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/the-two-exceptions-to-game/

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm ballocaust

      the fallacy being humanity and vulnerability are traits widely valued by women.
      only insofar as they affirm subservience to vaginal directives and contribute to an environment of largely verbal/social conflict

      IE the hook isn’t displaying pro-social traits or a commitment the abstraction that is love but rather that Whorebeater demonstrated who is really running the show

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 8:57 pm theasdgamer

      Yeah, it’s an important part of Dread Game, too. Use Dread, then build comfort after the insecurity test.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 8:59 pm Scray

      Vulnerability game is far from beta, though. It’s the apex of confidence.

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    • on June 13, 2014 at 11:13 pm dlpt

      So, what were you saying about Enrique Iglesias?

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  20. on June 9, 2014 at 11:59 am zodak

    i slip & do things like this because i’m a former nice guy & sometimes i forget not to but because i’m a dick most of the time, it works in my favor. it just helps string the girls along thinking i’m that unicorn she’s been searching for her entire life. i am, but i’ll never be hers.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 12:09 pm Zombie Shane

      > “i am, but i’ll never be hers.”

      In fairness to the poor girl, that’s kinda cruel, to keep stringing her along like that, knowing full well that you intend to dump her.

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  21. on June 9, 2014 at 12:16 pm onan

    this is one of those stories best summed up as: “what would chris brown do?”

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  22. on June 9, 2014 at 12:16 pm little spoon

    Beta guys are dime a dozen but romantic guys are rare in my view. Most men are not creative or motivated enough to be romantic.

    [CH: creativity is a male DRV… demonstration of reproductive value.]

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 11:11 am Anonymous

      Everything mostly boils down to whether you’re doing it for yourself or not. Beta doing anything to score poon is transparent. Alpha doing it because he loves it is irresistible. Naturally beta guys finding a mission and doing it get poon and build civilization. The mission can’t be poon.

      [CH: everything men do, alpha and beta alike, is for the nookie, regardless of the express purpose of the means that gets the nookie. poon is the ur-mission to which all other missions are subservient.]

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 12:02 am Anonymous

        Awesome mission: poon along for ride

        Poon the priority: mission suffers

        Just my personal experience

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 8:56 pm Scray

      Romance for a woman is just her rationalizing the actions of an attractive man as a sign that ‘he really cares.’ This is why an attractive man can get a woman a friendship ring and that gesture be known as ‘so unique and romantic,’ while hundreds of dollars worth of roses, etc. will just be seen as tacky in a less attractive man.

      So….with that in mind, just do whatever you want.

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  23. on June 9, 2014 at 12:17 pm apollohaan

    absence>alpha>beta

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  24. on June 9, 2014 at 12:19 pm gunslingergregi

    pickup line from a chick who was supposed to bring me and my chick home last night from party

    if you guys pass out In my car I won’t be able to find your house i’ll have to bring you to mine and you can sleep on my couch

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 12:20 pm gunslingergregi

      I think she meant cooch
      he he he

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:28 pm gunslingergregi

        i’m a fuckin celebrity though any time I left to piss or something everyone had me name on their lips like it was the good thing about greg show or someone was going around with a mic and saying what do you love the most about greg
        fucking wild shit lol

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  25. on June 9, 2014 at 12:53 pm gunslingergregi

    my bitch and I on a new level though

    she like if I let you fuck me every time you wanted to or your dick was hard my pussy would be blown out
    she like anyway me teasing you and making you work a little to get it makes it better when ya do get it though right
    i”m like yea I guess it does

    and I can take it when I want to
    kind of interesting in the mind of my woman

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 12:56 pm gunslingergregi

      like I could tell her not to tease me
      but yea I think more fun with the tease

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 12:59 pm gunslingergregi

        so prob opposite might be true for her then when I take it cause I need it that bad prob hotter for her

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 2:42 pm gunslingergregi

        she read it says
        yea I teases you
        sha
        you likses it smiling
        i’m like you do it on purpose
        she says yes
        he he he

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 2:50 pm gunslingergregi

        guess woman got to be liars somewhat when they come over and bend over straight legged at the waist
        ass in air
        and then got to lie like they just had to get something on floor or some shit instead of saying i’m ready to fuck and be demanding
        cute little lies though got mine telling the truth but then playfully lieing anyway after

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 3:10 pm gunslingergregi

        she forward too a bit
        like bent over on couch kissed my feet
        im walking by her grabs my arm kisses

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 3:32 pm gunslingergregi

        so yea i’m teasin her now and not putting down the d
        def more fun when two people consciously gaming

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  26. on June 9, 2014 at 12:59 pm newlyaloof

    FR: In my pre-red-pill beta days if I saw a hot girl approaching from the other direction, I’d:
    1. Probably be wearing sun glasses as I didn’t want people to see the generalized social anxiety I wore on my eyes but couldn’t quite explain.
    2. Smile nervously and break eye contact after the “comfortable staring time” passed.
    3. Not say anything to her (although wanting to).

    Today a hot 6-foot chick approaches dressed to the corporate T and I:
    1. Don’t wear sun glasses because I want everyone to see how solid my frame and understanding of myself and social dynamics are.
    2. Relax, look at her with a interested smirk.
    3. See her smile back and and say hi to me first (that shit rarely happened before).
    4. Say, “Hi and thank you,” back to her.
    5. She slows up a bit and says, “Huh?” and I look over my shoulder and say, “Nobody in this town says hello any more. So thank you, you brighten my day.”
    6. She smiles and says, “You’re welcome,” as she walks on and I follow up with, “What’s your name?”
    7. She says, “Katie,” and I say, “Okay, thank you Katie,” and walk away.

    Saying thank you to a girl isn’t beta when the phrase is just an irrelevant prop I used to have a fun social interaction with a hot girl in passing. I never would have understood such a thing as a beta. Pity I had to wait 40 years to learn this shit, but each small interaction as a red-pill-aware dude is priceless and I’ll be passing it on to my son. Sure, she didn’t ask for my name back, but I bet she will if I see her again. No worries though as in those 5 seconds of time on this earth, I enjoyed myself.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 1:01 pm gunslingergregi

      No worries though as in those 5 seconds of time on this earth, I enjoyed myself.””””””

      ownage

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 1:18 pm newlyaloof

        Exactly. This one time today replaced the thousands of times I wanted to say something and hold frame, but didn’t. Sweet closure.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 9:09 pm theasdgamer

        Gratz, aloof!

        You know, your name thing reminds me of a situation I ran into with a pretty blonde I dance with…she remembered my name but I didn’t remember hers or even meeting her. I had no clue who she was, but she remembered me.

        lolz

        Old Man So-Super-Aloof-That-You-Have-Memory-Loss Game for the win.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 3:37 pm blogster

      newly aloof, can you comment on what you consider ‘general social anxiety’ and how you dealt with it (there are various methods out there).

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 6:22 am newlyaloof

        The only f#cukin’ method out there to deal with general social anxiety is gaining alpha-frame through game, PERIOD! That’s what all teenage boys seek. That’s what all college guys seek. That’s what all male corporate workers seek. Game is the method. Neo from the Matrix is the best way to describe general social anxiety. You know the answer is just out of reach of your understanding so you live each day with pent-up tension from not knowing. When you know, the tension goes away. I got laid a ton of times, but that still didn’t help with this tension I felt. Not until game was I free of this. Now I’m married, so there’s that tension to deal with.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 3:58 pm Reco

      @newlyaloof right on my brother. I can totally relate to your experience. The feeling of freedom and empowerment after breaking through like that truly is priceless.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 9:46 pm Cortesar

        Let me quote the famous German PUA named Goethe

        “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 6:51 am haunted trilobite

        pua goethe knew everything there is to know about Kant

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  27. on June 9, 2014 at 1:14 pm How To Increase Your Beta Male Margin Of Error | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  28. on June 9, 2014 at 1:49 pm Will

    For you to do beta things she has to show invest in you.

    Your relationship should be following the poon commandments. And she should’ve been sucking your dick or cooking for you or something.

    If not, that little amount of beta will work to push her attraction for you away. And you want to maximize attraction.

    Your “vulnerability” is being with her.

    Stay away from I love you’s.

    Buy her stupid funny gifts like a random stuffed animal.

    LTR game is a whooole ‘nother thing man

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 4:08 pm ballocaust

      Your “vulnerability” is being with her.

      this man gets it

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 4:19 pm blindman

        but if you’re in an LTR, which is what i was speaking of in an earlier comment you do need to show some vulnerability and humanity or you will alienate her. here’s a refresher for your reading pleasure:

        wordpress.com/2013/06/07/relationship-game-the-day-to-day-alpha/

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 4:42 pm blindman

        here is a good line from the article:

        occasional Acts of Beta are not a horrible thing; in fact they’re necessary if you want a relationship with a woman longer than three months that isn’t corrosive or emotionally exhausting.

        three months isn’t that long. you’ll get to that three month mark before you know it in most cases and it can be hell from then on if you don’t have your wits about you and a steady game plan. i’ve been there.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 5:07 pm gunslingergregi

        yea that is a good thread
        feminist even wrote our host a song awww
        https://soundcloud.com/femmy-feministx/heartsies-song

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 8:23 pm ballocaust

        but they love to be alienated so much, who am I to deny that simple pleasure?

        occasional Acts of Beta are not a horrible thing; in fact they’re necessary if you want a relationship with a woman longer than three months that isn’t corrosive or emotionally exhausting.

        emotionally exhausting is the name of the LTR game. thats what shit tests are, and they evolve from “will this nigga buy me a drink” to “why isnt the mortgage youre paying for putting me in a house as big as cindy’s!?”

        Acts of Beta are the playing possum when you’re too tired/broken to check a ho.

        if you fuck up, don’t acknowledge you fucked up, do you think they really do?
        if she’s tripping on that hormonal shit, you give her a timeout as you would a child

        my 2c, employ rose-colored (or conversely feces-smeared) tints as thou wilt

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 9:39 pm gunslingergregi

        emotionally exhausting is the name of the LTR game. thats what shit tests are, and they evolve from “will this nigga buy me a drink” to “why isnt the mortgage youre paying for putting me in a house as big as cindy’s!?”

        Acts of Beta are the playing possum when you’re too tired/broken to check a ho.
        ””””””””””””

        or i’m worth half a billion in this divorce
        good stuff keep it in perspective

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 12:05 am Will

        @blindman I swear to god dude I would *logically* think the same.

        BUT the healthy relationships are the ones where she is chasing.

        Sure say something like “i love you too idk what it is about you maybe your goofiness” but ONLY when she has shown investment and said it to you first. And say it when she is not ovulating. And once you say it make sure to come back with a huge alpha slam like a choke fuck ha.

        You have to realize that the whole *logical* side of the brain is not how girls make decisions. So you saying “be more beta so she won’t get alienated” doesn’t hold much leverage in girl terms b/c that is logical–not emotional.

        Always do things with her that yield emotions of lower value.

        You will most likely know when it’s right to say it.

        But relationships usually aren’t *healthy* when there’s a lot of “I love you” “I love you too” going on. It should be at a very intense moments or a joking nonmeaningful moment.

        “Intense” moment as in she is hanging on you kissing you all over and says I love you and you reciprocate once in a blue moon.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 10:47 am blindman

        @Will

        i agree with everything you said. i think i mentioned in an earlier comment that the saying i love you all the time was a problem. i should have made myself more clear.

        you do have to dole out the lovey dovey stuff very very sparingly. you gave good examples of when and how it would be okay to do that.

        i’ll add that you should also only say ‘i love you’ IF you hold a good strong frame the majority of the time and IF she has said it first and is chasing you and invested like you said.

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  29. on June 9, 2014 at 1:58 pm R-Complex Driven

    off topic but:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/ImGoingToHellForThis/comments/27ld43/every_white_dads_worst_nightmare/

    stick a fork in America, it’s done.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 2:07 pm corvinus

      That’s what happens when you raise your kids to worship nogs.

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      • on June 9, 2014 at 9:14 pm Greg Eliot

        Well, maybe if they didn’t run To Kill A Mockingbird and To Sir With Love every friggin'[ month on TV…

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:53 pm corvinus

        I blame pro sports, personally.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 9:50 pm thwack

        No girls need to be”taught” to worship me; they do that without prompting.

        Why?

        Cause they seein somethin they think they cant have.

        Is Greg Eliot hearing confessions?

        I been a bad boy but I want to turn my life around.

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 5:24 am Greg Eliot

        Pro sports and college sports are definitely a major portion of this society’s worship of negroes… but that’s predominantly men.

        I think the ladies get their cues more from the One-Eyed YKW, movies and music.

        Alas, Babylon.

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 5:27 am Greg Eliot

        Cause they seein somethin they think they cant have.

        An extra piece of fried chicken?

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 3:52 pm corvinus

        Cause they seein somethin they think they cant have.

        I don’t think any of them are thinking y’all are forbidden fruit, know whahm sayin’?

        Pro sports and college sports are definitely a major portion of this society’s worship of negroes… but that’s predominantly men.

        I think the ladies get their cues more from the One-Eyed YKW, movies and music.

        Alas, Babylon.

        I beg to differ… what men worship, the women will too.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 4:29 pm PA

      Funny comment in that thread:

      “Hey not so quick, maybe they’re all future NBA players (too short) NFL players (too scrawny) MLB players (que?) NHL players (lol black people playing hockey)… uhh…
      Maybe their dads are rich?”

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  30. on June 9, 2014 at 2:20 pm Evolved Beta Male

    THE BETA MALE LINK IN THE ARTICLE DOES”NT WORK

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  31. on June 9, 2014 at 2:47 pm thrust

    had my ex/fb flake on me for the first time in our 2.5yrs.

    texted her after the club sat night – she was in bed and said she’d text me tmrw. shit was upbeat and positive from what i can tell.

    had a buddy over til 1230am last night – he booked figuring she’d be over. nothing.

    another bitch is that i work at the building across from hers. she’s at work today – my primal animal inside me rrrreally wants to go over there in a calm/rational manner, and be like “hey girl, dont ever pull that shit on me again..”

    looks like she totally played me. i may have a sense as to why – figured she’d text me today saying her phone died etc..

    this cunt has my hamster spinning.

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  32. on June 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm B

    This article really hit close to home, and made me feel a little better about myself.

    I was second guessing every little beta thing I did to the point it was getting ridiculous. I’m a very old fashioned man, I pay for everything, I like buying her a pack of smokes or food here and there. I started wondering if this was going to be the downfall of my relationship and it depressed me, because it’s how my father raised me and how I raise my son.

    But at the same time, I liked to imagine I was like an alpha steak being peppered with beta – when we last fought, I tossed her shit out of my car and drove off with a flippant nonchalance as she stood there like WTF ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MEEEE in tears. cue b52 text bombardment which i completely ignored.

    as in all things, if you have an alpha frame you can get away with a lot – even being beta from time to time. it’s about how it’s presented in her mind. I’m never needy or supplicatory, I always treat it as a gift from strength to weakness.

    It’s worked like magic tbh, and it’s very emotionally satisfying to me too. Unless you’re a sociopathic male, you want to be tender and loving from time to time. Being a jerk or rude or frustratingly aloof gives you the freedom to enjoy those moments without causing any significant damage to her perception of you.

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  33. on June 9, 2014 at 5:00 pm ho

    “Attractive body (usually more important to men)
    Attractive face (usually more important to men)
    Earning potential (usually more important to women)
    Ambition (usually more important to women)
    Kindness (equally important to both)
    Intelligence (equally important to both)”

    Lol at the last two.

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  34. on June 9, 2014 at 5:19 pm Reco

    @yareally and HABD got date number two with my little wild 30yo Indian…she promises lots of good luvin tonight. Wish me luck. Will be providing FR tomorrow…and if we’re lucky it will be out of moderation. Sometime in July. Lol

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  35. on June 9, 2014 at 5:34 pm Scathach

    Are you going to write about the Miss America Pageant? Most of those girls looked like post-op trannies.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 10:20 pm Canadian Friend

      Feminists Freak Out Over Miss Nevada Suggestion Women Learn Self Defense to Avoid Rape

      http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/06/09/feminists-freak-out-over-miss-nevada-suggestion-women-learn-self-defense-n1849213?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm

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  36. on June 9, 2014 at 5:38 pm theasdgamer

    How do you turn off the charm if you’re a natural? Helllllp!

    I was out country dancing and I went to ask this pretty blonde to dance, but she declined since she and her date were leaving. She asked for a raincheck and we chatted and she gave me details–what kind of work she does, where she works, she’s a night person, when she works. She left a breadcrumb trail in the convo so that I’d ask logistical questions. (Her beta schlub date looked unhaaappy that she was volunteering this info to me.) Oh, yeah, I wasn’t planning on dogging this bird, it just happened! At the time, I wasn’t even aware of what was going on. She knows that I’m married; I’m planning on keeping my vows, so I’m watching myself carefully around this bird.

    I think that my autism is playing into this. I’m getting spergy about understanding social stuff and if I have a question about something, I’ll chat up a bird to try to figure it out. The question that triggered my obsessive behavior is “Why did this bird fly under my radar?” She mentioned that she had changed her hairdo recently and I wanted to find out more about her to understand what was going on. Then my natural instincts kicked in, one thing led to another, etc.

    If any of you other autists have something to share, please speak up.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 12:56 pm gunslingergregi

      why it feel like everyone on this thread is full of shit fucking around

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:23 pm Greg Eliot

        Just dawned on ya, did it?

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:56 pm gunslingergregi

        yea its just so egregious this time lol
        the whole thread kind of hillarious

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  37. on June 9, 2014 at 5:53 pm N.

    Yeah, I benefit from this a lot. Because my girl knows I’ve slept around on her, and I normally dominate the hell out of her, whenever I slip up and say or do something beta, she interprets the beta-slip up as me trying some sort of advanced player ploy to get her more wrapped around my finger, and thus my alpha-player cred actually goes up when I fuck up. I can do no wrong.
    Establishing yourself as alpha from the start gives you all sorts of leeway as long as you don’t make a full shift.

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  38. on June 9, 2014 at 7:23 pm Will

    If someone has any way to clarify this concept or make it more clear that would be awesome:

    I’m confused with how you “lead/dominate” a relationship without being “too invested or beta”. If I tell my young high smv girl “I will let you be my girlfriend….etc” in a somewhat alpha way and initiate/lead hangouts or whatever….there’s so many other contingencies and factors that go into play by doing that.

    I only see it safe when the girl is flat out obviously chasing/into you….to the point where she doesn’t even make it a game b/c she doesn’t want it to be a game she wants you.

    But like I’ve said before this rarelyyyyy happens with young high smv girls…

    So is it best to just hit it a few times and quit it? Then spin plates?

    I want my hottest plate to be after me though….so if she isn’t then you just find another equally hot plate to try again with?

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  39. on June 9, 2014 at 9:32 pm ernesto b

    PUTIN SHOWING ATTITUDE ALFA KNOWINGLY, NOT LOST OPPORTUNITIES, ATTENTION 0.28SEC OF THE VIDEO https://t.co/tiloNDVthL

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  40. on June 9, 2014 at 9:36 pm ernesto b

    putin showing alpha attitude consciously, https://t.co/tiloNDVthL

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  41. on June 9, 2014 at 11:35 pm Libertardian

    LOL! Liberals hike minimum wage to $15, businesses – get this – respond by raising prices, liberals explode with rage!

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Company-adds-living-wage-surcharge-after-minimum-wage-increase–262466051.html

    ‘”This is one way of business owners getting back at the public and passing on their costs,” said Eric Colville, who has left his car at Masterpark in the past.’

    See, businesses could care less about making a profit or competing with each other. Their only function is to wage eternal war against the public. The sooner we shut them all down and have all goods and services meted out to us by the State, the better off we’ll be.

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    • on June 9, 2014 at 11:55 pm dlpt

      You’re too close to a female to use sarcasm, perhaps you’d have to compensate by using a mind instead. Don’t just fall, make it happen.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 12:28 am Will

      @linertardian I can’t tell if your post is sarcastic but I think it is…?

      OF COURSE BUSINESSES CARE ABOUT MAKING PROFIT. Why else would you start a fucking business. They are raising prices to the public b/c they can. Because it’s THEIR business. Sometimes I wonder if Obama knows ANYTHING about economics and capitalism.

      By raising the minimum wage to 15$ an hour, the economy in that city is going to SPIRAL DOWN b/c people won’t be able to start small businesses b/c they don’t have the funds to support employees AND start a business. So small businesses will move out of that city and people will start getting laid off.

      This is just skimming the surface of that shitshow

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  42. on June 10, 2014 at 12:19 am Will

    I will say this:

    It is so hard getting a young high smv girl (party years) to chase you hard and say I love you first. I fucked some…but getting the chase+legit love you….

    I swear you have to be top notch alpha where the looks doooo matter. And I’m no pretty boy don’t get me wrong but I do agree that science dismisses the looks and you gotta hold true to that. I think it happens more when one of your plates is realizing the “party years” aren’t real/won’t last long

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 2:43 am gunslingergregi

      will its actually easier just got to tell her you love her marry her get her pregnant the younger bitches fall in love instantly and offer them total package game over picket fence for a while
      but that is kind of the backdrop of the whole spiel here and where it began was about not being a part of the divorce industrial complex
      then ya had guys who only got shot down and shit
      and people not believing about shit my wife did for me and def not believing an American bitch would do the same shit cause not subservient enough or something
      I was like American bitches same shit it is just that every American bitch is a ticking timebomb ready to turn a dude into a fucking worse slave than he already is
      turn your 100k job into you getting 300 a week
      so I think where the pump and dump really came from was because nobody wanted to keep one of these time bombs and develop oneitis or fall in love even though of course some guys will fall in love no matter how hard you try to avoid the shit gonna find you a special snowflake
      which would be fine except for the snowflakes ability to use many diferent methods to fuck your life up is she got a hair up her ass about something or even if she just went batshit insane.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 2:44 am gunslingergregi

      whole point of game blogs is we don’t want to have high smv fertile girls chasing us because they are ticking timeboms ready to take what little freedom we have

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:50 am gunslingergregi

        if I wanted a hot young bitch i’d ask one to marry me and start popping out kids but i’m not gonna pay child support ever so I do what I do to mitigate me being put in that position

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:51 am gunslingergregi

        explain detail what I mean but divorce rape seems not to go

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:53 am gunslingergregi

        trump almost went bankrupt over a bitch
        so I mean yea
        if you want a young one and 24 is an old hag already
        then by all means marry one have kids
        but deal with the consequences of dealing with that descision for a long fucking time is very posible

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:55 am gunslingergregi

        why the pump and dump philosophy came into being to protect yourself ut of course men fall in love with woman and get sucked into the void

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 3:01 am gunslingergregi

        like the chick i’m with now holding my cum in throughout the day
        ovulation in two day but if she really had my kid I could take it
        see protecting myself

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 3:07 am gunslingergregi

        just offer the high smv chick marriage and the option to make you an endentured servant for 21 years and she should be jumping at the bit for that deal

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 3:10 am gunslingergregi

        and I can’t sleep thinking about my woman really really tryin to have my kid

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  43. on June 10, 2014 at 12:33 am Willers

    Apologies in advance for off topic comment but will the great one (CH) be addressing the moment when Obama held Berghdahl’s wifes hand. He also had his hand round her as the walked out to the press with the husband a pace or so away. Was this some kind of alpha display going on? With the timidified beta pussy in the background?

    Would anybody else here be happy with their wife/girlfriend getting the full POTUS/alpha treatment. Smacks of Dieselesque cuckoldry to me.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:35 pm A Random Guy

      I’m surprised Barry wasn’t holding the Dad’s hand…

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 3:29 pm Greg Eliot

      Had it been Putin, she’d a been raw dogged down the hallway.

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  44. on June 10, 2014 at 2:14 am Troubadour

    I think I’m living through something like an example of this, but I’m still so inexperienced and badly calibrated, that I may not have gotten anywhere near as far as I thought I did.

    Got on her radar calling bullshit on some statement she made. Got into her head at least somewhat successfully. She says “I’m so pretty” and I say “you might be a 7 in good lighting, but are probably a 6.”

    Started in the friend zone and threw a hail mary pass. I think I winged her with it, but I’m not sure. Figured out she wasn’t going to have sex with me, so I shut her down. I don’t want to be a potential option, I want sex, and if we aren’t having sex, you’re boring.

    She hated that, and started drawing me back in. I changed tactics and tried being nice to her, and she lapped that up like a hummingbird. I saw tears in her eyes at the emotion of being praised by somebody who had been a totally aloof asshole previously.

    At the end of it all, she ain’t gonna have sex with me. The last few days I’ve been posting crazy bullshit in the middle of another massive desperation anxiety attack. Everything I’ve said for like two weeks is totally suspect. She got into my head again. FUCK!

    Desperation is a motherfucker. On the bright side, she finally helped me get my own mental state to a point where I can fuck around on my wife and keep my self-respect, and she helped me figure out what kind of girl I can get with what I have to work with here.

    Girls with daddy issues who are either fat (my wife) or psycho (my succubus). Until I get my own shit together with a greater sense of entitlement and higher self-esteem, that’s as high as I’m going to go. I’ve been trying to improve my self-esteem for 42 years, and I feel it is impossible for me to supply my own validation. I need external validation, like a girl.

    Having just a fantasy about being about to fuck a girl gives me a shitload of self-validation power, and makes my pimp hand mighty. “I control the horizontal, and I control the vertical. Your self-respect comes from ME. Only I can give it to you, and I can take it away the instant you displease me.”

    I thought that was a good fucking line. I do have that much control over her self-respect. I ripped her soul to nothing and left her whimpering and empty to punish her for not giving me the pussy. But I still didn’t get the pussy.

    This is the friend zone gents. I finally accept it. The question is whether any of this shit will actually work on other girls. I did start in the friend zone, and I’m still here in the friend zone, but what if…..?

    So I want a girl with The Darkness who is somewhat pretty and has severe daddy issues for some totally perverted daddy/daughter incest rape fantasy sexual dynamic. Because I have fucked enough goddamn fat chicks in my life, and that is a step up.

    I am going to try leveling up step by step instead of refusing to settle for less than what I really want. I just can’t reach that high yet. But I could.

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  45. on June 10, 2014 at 6:00 am Boench

    Is there anywhere to see the archive list for all Heartiste posts and what are some of the best?
    Regards Boench.

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  46. on June 10, 2014 at 6:11 am Fame

    It all boils down to once you get the goods making sure you fuck her senseless. No half measures. Even the most effete betaish man can achieve this. The poosy will tingle and drip only for him for as long as he likes and beyond.
    Tile layers say: lay it right the first time, walk on it for life. Or something to that effect. You get the idea .

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  47. on June 10, 2014 at 6:21 am Canadian Friend

    After his wife cheats on him he puts her wedding dress for sale on the internet with these nice comments,

    ” …This stunning, tuille swathed, ivory bridal gown has a proven track record of producing an adulterous, deceitful, double-crossing and traitorous “soulmate”.

    “This harlot-sized ensemble will make you the envy of your trampish posse on your fraudulent wedding day.”

    https://ca.shine.yahoo.com/jilted-husband-seeks-revenge-gumtree-001010293.html

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  48. on June 10, 2014 at 7:01 am wolfie65

    a) As long as the dude is TALL,HOT,YOUNG,RICH, HIGH STATUS enough, he can ACT ANY WHICH WAY HE LIKES. Alpha, Beta, Zeta Phi Kappa, Lambda Lambda Lambda, it doesn’t make any fucking difference.
    b) To some extent, these things are cultural. The whole Alpha/Beta, Jock/Nerd division isn’t nearly as harshly and clearly delineated in Europe as it is in the US.
    Even here, it is pretty common in Hispanic ghettos for guys who wash dishes for a living and earn gas money by getting middle schoolers hooked on crack to have girlfriends who will be pretty hot until about age 30. No one can tell me there’s anything ‘Alpha’ about such guys, but they do provide the drahmah the girls need like they need air. Plus, they’re Hispanic (like she is) and therefore within her ‘comfort zone’, which they rarely if ever leave.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:19 pm apollohaan

      it aint productive alpha
      but it being a drug dealer (status) with some cash (provision) and a gun in your pocket and willing to use it (protection) with a little personality is a lot more attractive than being timid with no charisma working at mcdonalds.
      nobody anywhere is getting middle schoolers hooked on crack. but if they were hot girls wouldnt care. they dont have morals in the same way that men do.

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  49. on June 10, 2014 at 8:10 am Mel Gibson

    The betaboy who created and “starred” in the (now-private) video posted this comment on the trailer for said video.

    “No it’s not the link. I took it down for the time being because it apparently got shared on some body building website or something and the people within the video were getting spammed. It’ll be back up in a few days. Sorry for the inconvenience. ”

    lulz

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  50. on June 10, 2014 at 9:10 am Mel Gibson

    http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/06/10/exactly-how-normal-is-miss-indianas-body/

    lol

    Miss Indiana – thin and in shape, but not quite as shapely as the rest of the Miss USA field – is being praised by fat women for being “normal.”

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 9:15 am Mel Gibson

      Read the tweets from women in the hyperlinked story in the above link. Then click on the twitter pages for each of those selected tweeters.

      This one is a devout femcunt – https://twitter.com/NotTooShabby12 – with her #YesAllWomen and rape culture bullshit.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 10:18 am Greg Eliot

        Abby Snyder… usual suspect babble-on.

        Please don’t give legs to these Jewesses’ opinions… they media already does that enough.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 9:32 am Canadian Friend

      She has absolutely no female/sexy curves below the navel.

      We live in a strange age in which women that have no hips, that have men legs and men butts are considered the most attractive.

      Victoria secret’s models have that odd shape too, they have nice faces, nice breasts but everything below the navel looks like it belongs on a young boy, not a woman.

      I am turned off by women who’s butt reminds me of a little boy, I am NOT into fucking 8 year old little boys, maybe today’s younger men who are much more feminized (than men from my generation ) are into that?

      I’m not sure why we are there…is it the gay influence? they like women who look like little boys? the feminist influence?

      Pardon my French but it is fucked up to have an erection for a woman who has the butt of an 8 year old little boy.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 1:50 pm corvinus

        Teh h0m0z run the fashion industry, so the possibility that many models have little-boy figures because of that cannot be ruled out.

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  51. on June 10, 2014 at 9:28 am newlyaloof

    HOLY SH!T!!!!! This deserves a post on its own: http://thechive.com/2014/06/10/this-cat-takes-cougar-chasing-to-a-whole-other-level-8-photos/

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 10:16 am Greg Eliot

      He’s obviously some attention-whoring queer (mystery meat, fey eyes)… and if that blonde lady is his mom, she definitely mud-sharked and single-mom’ed him into his current f@cked up mentality.

      Feh.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 1:52 pm corvinus

        At least the half-nog won’t be reproducing for a while, especially if his granny fetish continues after the current cronefriend kicks off.

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  52. on June 10, 2014 at 9:51 am PA

    CH tweet: “SWPL male (!) in my company sees mulatto baby, says “She’s cute.” ME: “No.” You gotta nip these race cuckold fads in the bud.”

    This reminds me of a short exchange here some six years ago. A Talented Tenth black commenter said that W/B mixed people are better looking than pure blooded whites or blacks. I replied with “they are?”

    In response, he posted several screeds, here and elsewhere, questioning my intelligence. I happen to remember that exchange because he came back at me with it when we were contending something related on another blog.

    It’s also a good illustration of the black inability to think beyond black. It can be forgiven of the Untalented 90%, but it does give one pause when realizing that nearly all members of the Talented Tenth, no matter how articulate, seem not just unwilling–but unable–to step outside of their blackitty-black sollipsism.

    It’s interesting how culture has changed in less than a decade, if the nature of alt-Right commentary is an indicator. Back in 2008 or so, things were civil on the racial stuff, in a one-way accommodationist sense. Black comenters were pro-black, White commenters were nice. That’s mostly gone. One big reason, I suspect, is a realization by whites that the other side does not talk, argue, think in good faith.

    And then we had the Zimmerman affair last year. A watershed moment, one that was prophetically called “peak negro” by a prominent blogger Ferdinand B. Witnessing a perfect New Diversity Man who mentored black kids get destroyed “because he stepped out of the car” was a breakthrough for us. T

    The takeaway: they give you no incentive to be moderate, to compromise. And it’s quite liberating: say what you think, your sole moderating pressure being rhetorical effectiveness vis a vis your intended audience.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 10:29 am Greg Eliot

      but it does give one pause when realizing that nearly all members of the Talented Tenth, no matter how articulate, seem not just unwilling–but unable–to step outside of their blackitty-black sollipsism.

      Well, duh!

      Anyone with experience dealing with negroes, especially the so-called “Talented Tenth” knows full-well that blood will out… nice, decent fellows when things are one-on-one or when in a group of whites… then check out the reversion to jungle when they suddenly get in with a group of their own.

      The watershed moment, for whites with eyes to see and ears to hear, was when the “best and brightest” of the race, the university students at that famous all-black college, ooked and eeked like chimps on national TV when the OJ verdict was announced.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 11:07 am thwack

      So the real question is; is it possible for a person to be TOO white?

      But more importantly, ALL you white people have “African features”, especially your legs.

      Thats right Greg, YOU have African legs.

      How tall are you?

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 1:07 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… same ol’ Thwackian ploy… negroes taking credit for bipedalism.

        Some gags never get old… but thwack’s jests evince the onset of decrepitude in utero.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 1:11 pm Greg Eliot

        So the real question is…

        that which was posed in Jeremiah 13:23 centuries ago.

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    • on June 11, 2014 at 4:32 am ho

      “And then we had the Zimmerman affair last year. A watershed moment, one that was prophetically called “peak negro” by a prominent blogger Ferdinand B. Witnessing a perfect New Diversity Man who mentored black kids get destroyed “because he stepped out of the car” was a breakthrough for us. T”

      Brilliant.

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  53. on June 10, 2014 at 10:03 am walawala

    @YaReally how to act and handle running into my ex gf or attention whoring behaviours during my big music weekend? Do I greet her along with guests, blank her? We’ve basically been in No Contact 6 months apart from a very brief dance. Tons of people, tons of girls coming.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 10:45 am having a bad day

      @wala

      not YaReally, but i had some advice on your ‘buying tickets’ thread, but it was in mod for 4 days so you might have missed it…

      basically…what do you want? do you want her back? if ‘no’ (good choice…lol) then it shouldn’t matter to you what she does… tell her and the ‘herb’ they are a GREAT couple…lol…if she approaches you, intro her to another guy she hasn’t met (doesn’t really matter who it is…lol), then ‘back-turn’ her to focus on other matters…polite greetings/polite indifference/polite smile/etc…be actually really happy (and not pissed) that she’s with someone else…and that you have an opportunity to help ALL of your guests have a quality experience…that’s the socially savvy thing to do…lol…

      if you want her back…follow the BPD/cluster B game plan…lol…or figure out why, then address THAT issue…

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 10:55 am Hunter

      @walawala

      Greet her like you’ve already forgotten about her. YaReally’s old advice still applies in this situation because he said don’t talk to her or initiate contact for like 6 months to a year.

      “Unfortunately, every time you slip on this, you gotta’ go alllll the way back to the start with it. If you were looking at the Soft Next taking like, 6 months to fully play out before…now you’re looking at probably a year, maybe more.”

      http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/11/#comment-heartiste-499514

      Just a swift hello and then move on/ignore.

      It’s just that the fact that you’re even asking how to deal with her is a sign you still care how it ends up.

      And hey I could be wrong, but you’ve been asking how to react to your ex gf for a while now even though the advice is pretty much the same.

      Not trying to shit on you man, just noticing a pattern and pointing it out. Feel free to ignore this comment.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 10:56 am Hunter

      @walawala

      Greet her like you’ve already forgotten about her. YaReally’s old advice still applies in this situation because he said don’t talk to her or initiate contact for like 6 months to a year.

      “Unfortunately, every time you slip on this, you gotta’ go alllll the way back to the start with it. If you were looking at the Soft Next taking like, 6 months to fully play out before…now you’re looking at probably a year, maybe more.”

      Just a swift hello and then move on/ignore.

      It’s just that the fact that you’re even asking how to deal with her is a sign you still care how it ends up.

      And hey I could be wrong, but you’ve been asking how to react to your ex gf for a while now even though the advice is pretty much the same.

      Not trying to shit on you man, just noticing a pattern and pointing it out. Feel free to ignore this comment.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 6:06 pm walawala

        @Hunter, Amy, HABD. Thanks. @Hunter—yes the advice is solid I am moving on but seeing her when she shows up has made it hard when I’m obligated to be at these functions—kind of like going to a class or a job.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 10:19 pm having a bad day

        @wala

        “I am moving on but seeing her when she shows up has made it hard when I’m obligated to be at these functions—kind of like going to a class or a job.”

        the problem when you ditch a oneitis like you are, is that you are making the choice based on logical ‘i won’t put up with your shit anymore’ reasons, rather than emotional ‘i’m over you and i’m gonna date these other 5 girls’ reasons…lol…so it feel like cheating/betrayal on the emotional level…bc it is…you have essentially short-circuited the normal emotional ‘left span’ of that relationship. so as far as your limbic system can tell, you are still in that oneitis relationship…and she’s still treating you like shit…so you get the same emotional response as if you were still together…

        so…you need to catch up your emotions to your logic…lol…the way to do that is to consciously try to set up your exgf with someone else…you don’t have to actually do it (although that’s probably the best way), but you need to go through the emotional experience of not caring about her (in that way)/being over her… so you are active and on your terms…once you get that closure she won’t be able to push your buttons…

        so, you reframe from ‘poor me…she’s so disloyal and unfair…” (with the limbic system ping that goes along with that…) to ‘i’m going to do a really nice thing for two people and set them up with each other…’ (with a different limbic system ping that gives you a ‘feel good for helping others’ vibe…)

        technically what you are doing is reconditioning your limbic response to the exgf…

        you’re bringing in some great musicians for a big event, right? you’re not doing it just for the DHV it gets you with girls, right? you must have some level of wanting to share a great experience with others and have them have a great time (even the herb, right?…lol)…so, focus on THOSE feelings (magnify them as much as you can…lol) and take those feelings and consciously apply them to the exgf…put all the negative feelings away just for this event and make sure she (and everyone else) has a great time…

        good luck!

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 10:36 pm Hunter

        @walawala Yeah I hear ya.

        Is there really no way you cannot see her? Are you really so obligated that you can’t just extract yourself entirely? This might seem insensitive but sometimes you have to do what’s best for yourself.

        I’ve been in a similar situation where I had HUGE ONEITIS for one of my friends, it came out, she didn’t like me and she was in our MAIN group of friends. I avoided her completely. Whenever she was around, I was gone. If I couldn’t avoid it, I ignored her. I was hurt, BUT I didn’t allow myself to be her puppet or the compliant dude who just wanted everyone to be happy.

        Everyone said we should just be friends and move on, and I was like fuck that, I’m not gonna do what you want me to. So I avoided her for 6 months, still felt hurt, but didn’t let myself fall back into anything. I told myself we could be acquaintances and nothing more.

        I needed space, so I gave myself space. I told her to stop talking to me. And I avoided her until I got used to not seeing her around ever. She got a bf and eventually I got over it. Now I see her… and I couldn’t care less. We’re friends now (she broke the camel’s back and that was what got me to fully commit to pickup) and I’m 100% fine with it… cuz life’s WAY better than it was before, and I just don’t care about her anymore.

        I’m not trying to say that I understand your situation (me and the chick never banged, probably relevant probably not, I was a beta before, slowly coming out of that, I’m 23, etc.) but I feel as if you need to take control of your emotions, man.

        How can you be so pissed off about some dude and your ex? You haven’t ripped her out of your brain yet. Delete her number, stop talking to her, avoid her manipulative existence like the plague and things WILL get better. And by the time she crawls back you’ll have found a better girl who has much more in common… and you’ll have already lost interest 🙂

        You probably don’t need all this… BUT I know that what you’re feeling towards her is a choice and you can choose to never see her again. You don’t have to keep doing these events. Cancel em. Would it really be that bad if you didn’t do them anymore? Is everyone gonna hate you now? Does it matter? Why? Why not try canceling one and see what happens?

        Maybe your friends got mad and weren’t happy about it and blamed you for it. Big deal.

        Again, I don’t know the whole situation so… take what I’m saying with a grain of salt.

        Hope my beta past has helped in some way 🙂

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 1:19 am walawala

        @habd Great post. Indeed, I created this event because it’s interesting not for any specific DHV. Thanks for the insights.

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      • on June 11, 2014 at 10:32 pm walawala

        @hunter yes…i’ve dug deep. It’s more an ego thing than anything else. The reality is take it or leave it…but the behaviours she exhibited tapped into something deeper in me: shame….not being good enough.

        This is tough for a guy who’s moved from beta to alpha, banged tons of chicks….then falls into this.

        The idea is to use game to make better choices..

        i post my own experiences so I can get feedback but also so other guys can learn from these mistakes and not be so hard on themselves.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 12:18 pm Amy

      I think this is an area where the advice is the same for guys as it is for girls: pleasant but indifferent.

      Greet her exactly as you’d greet any casual acquaintance coming in, give her no further attention, and proceed to have a great time interacting with as many hot girls as possible.

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  54. on June 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm Anonymous

    This is a good post. The more alpha you are, the more beta you can get away with. My bf is one of the most natural alphas I’ve ever known, which is why he is (and gets away with being) beta sometimes. It’s the perfect mix.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 12:08 pm Amy

      Hmmm the blonde is having trouble signing in

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  55. on June 10, 2014 at 12:43 pm Amy

    I have an OT question for anyone kind enough to weigh (ha!)in:

    If a guy is friendzoned by a girl he likes, but then after a while goes on to date a girl he ends up in a RL with, and in love with, is it still hard/annoying/hurtful to hang out with the first girl?

    In other words, if you’re happy with what you’ve got, do you become indifferent to past crushes? To the extent you could be friends with them?

    [CH: depends how hot his unrequited love was in relation to his current gf. hotter? raw feelings. just as hot? mild sense of unfulfilled sexual duty. less hot? relief, and pride, mixed with a little pity.]

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 1:47 pm Amy

      “less hot? relief, and pride, mixed with a little pity.”

      Good. Thanks. Exactly what I hoped to hear.

      [CH: i should probably clarify my admittedly glib response. generally, men love poosy variety, and the presence of two pussies, one of which he used to fuck, will, looks differentials notwithstanding to the contrary, cause a long-lust bubble of lust to surface, and rude thoughts will intrude his inner peace. so, yes, he’ll be relived that he traded up, but at the same time he’s gonna want to tap that ass again. for old times’ sake.

      it’s really best from a woman’s perspective as standard policy to keep exes away from their men. no good can come of it.]

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 2:34 pm Amy

        “it’s really best from a woman’s perspective as standard policy to keep exes away from their men. no good can come of it.”

        I’m the former crush. We never had any sexual contact. I misinterpreted “former love” as a verb. His “love” for me wasn’t too hot/intense (educated guess) but I am probably hotter than his gf. Although– not by too much.

        I have an opportunity to work with him on something mutually beneficial but I don’t want to be a jerk.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 6:16 pm this too shall pass

        So why would CH’s reply be “exactly what you hoped to hear”? If his advice stands, the guy continues to harbor raw feelings about you.

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 6:39 pm Cortesar

        What you actually want is that the “friend” has another crush
        You would not grant him an intercourse naturally but you need the proof that you still desirable, that you are ” hotter than his girlfriend”
        So do not lie to us or yourself, instead give us something else, less trivial
        and more unique to inner working of your volcano and its uncontrollable eruptions

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      • on June 10, 2014 at 7:17 pm Amy

        @pass: Because I misunderstood and thought he meant “love” as a verb. As in “having feelings for”. I thought he was telling me that if the guy’s crush on me paled in intensity to what he felt for his gf (and I think it does), the guy would feel relief, pride, pity, etc. when he saw me, not rawness. That’s what I wanted to hear.

        @courtesar: This bs again. How flattered are you when an ugly and/or fat girl is attracted to you? Because that’s exactly how I flattered I am by the attention of a guy I’m not attracted to. I’m relieved he has a cute gf because I’d like to be friends and this fixes the power imbalance.

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 3:14 pm no

      great opinion opener Amy

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    • on June 10, 2014 at 6:09 pm walawala

      Basically in this scenario, the guy has supposedly moved on. It would depend on what his feelings are for the first girl.

      I have an ex gf who I am very good friends with. She chased me for a few years after the break up. But my crazy ex gf was insanely jealous of this interaction.

      In this scenario I had “friendzoned” the girl.

      Girls are more prone to jealousy and sometimes can sniff out when another girl has designs on their bf even if the guy himself is oblivious.

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  56. on June 10, 2014 at 8:23 pm ernesto b

    OBAMA VS PUTIN D-DAY ANIVERSARY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYGbOwQYvb4&feature=youtu.be&t=25s

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  57. on June 11, 2014 at 6:06 am thwack

    Ok, summer is basically here; are you guys lifting?

    You should be lifting; or at least working with the mexicans…

    always be lifting. its going to be getting hot and there will be plenty of excuses to take your shirt off. Do you have cut? Do you have definition?

    GTF outta bed and get in shape.

    Dont punk out.

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    • on June 11, 2014 at 1:03 pm no

      ..add to that take a risk and do something that scares the living shit out of you once a month…

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