As anyone who’s lived a day and quaffed a vial of barrel-aged truth serum will tell you, the men who do well with women are often the most entitled, narcissistic pricks they know. “Good guys” they are not, except in the retroactive imaginations of the women who swoon for their impudent swells. Now, a recent study confirms a slew of Chateau Heartiste observations.
Recent research has shown that narcissistic men in the United States express more ambivalent sexism than their non-narcissistic counterparts. The present study sought to extend these findings by hypothesizing that psychological entitlement would be a predictor of ambivalent sexism but that that this relationship may vary by gender. Given entitlement’s associations with hostility and aggression and the previously established link between narcissism and sexism in men, we hypothesized that entitlement would predict hostile sexism in men. Given that entitlement is characterized by a pervasive sense of deservingness for special treatment and goods, we expected that entitled women would endorse attitudes of benevolent sexism. These hypotheses were tested using two cross-sectional samples in the U.S.—a sample of undergraduates from a private university in the Midwest (N = 333) and a web-based sample of adults across the U.S. (N = 437). Results from regression analyses confirmed that psychological entitlement is a robust predictor of ambivalent sexism, above and beyond known predictors of sexism such as low openness and relevant covariates such as impression management. In addition, entitlement was a consistent predictor of benevolent sexism in women, but not in men, and a consistent predictor of hostile sexism in men, but not in women. These relationships were largely robust, persisting even when relevant covariates (e.g., socially desirable responding, trait openness) were controlled statistically, although in one sample the link between entitlement and hostile sexism in men was reduced to non-significance when benevolent sexism was controlled for statistically. Implications of these findings are discussed.
So entitlement — you know, that loving anti-feminist feeling that you deserve the sexual favors of any woman who piques your fancy — correlates with benevolent sexism in men.
And, it is known that women are more sexually receptive to sexist men.
So it would appear that holding benevolent sexist views about women that don’t cross the Taliban line, acting like an entitled douche, and being deeply in love with oneself are fantastic personality traits to possess or cultivate if you want a woman’s love.
Feminist and manboob blogs might punish you for your antediluvian views, but then feminists and manboobs aren’t lying in your bed spread-eagled with hearts bursting full of desire and loins aflame like napalm. This is not to say they don’t wish they were, but you are a man of wealth and taste, after all.
So wake up and start your day with a satisfying preen, player! You know how much girls love you loving yourself.

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da bestz wayz to expresss narcicimssms is to spend more time talkingz to your lostasosc cockasz den da chickz.
DA GBFM: r u hungry?
HER: not really.
DA GBFM: not talkin 2u.
HER: O? who r u talkin too?
DA GBFM: da lostas cockaz. & he says he hungry!
HER: well i guess i could use a bite.
DA GBFM: hows bout anmoytzhz mouthfulz? zlozozlzolzozlo
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my roomzmzmate keeps taping da GBFM!!!!
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Woman reveals she had sex with dolphin during 1960s NASA experiment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3166213/posts
I wonder whether this is really true, or whether the crazy old bitch is just an aging lunatic attention whore who’s lying through her teeth?
In either case – bestiality, or fabricating tales of bestiality – the poor woman is nuts.
Scary stuff.
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I’m totally confused. Isn’t this saying that entitlement in men predicts “hostile” sexism, and entitlement in women predicts “benevolent” sexism?
[CH: to the first part, not when controlled for benevolent sexism (in men). as for the women, entitlement appears to activate the same pattern recognition mental software that is missing in naive male feminists and hopeandchange-y SWPLs.]
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Elliot Rodgers was an entitled narcissist.
[CH: only in his head, and hopped up on xanax. where it does him no good with women whatsoever.]
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He also had hair. Ergo, hair leads to mass murder.
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Also, the Botox.
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Also a BMW! Hello…Hitler!
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Not enough to sell his entiled narcissism to women through spoken words.
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True. His psychiatrist said he barely talked at all and always looked away. When the shrink saw the YouTube video, he said, “That’s an Elliot I never got to meet.” Omega through and through.
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One of the things people find creepy? Never talking to people. Even creepier? Mumbling to oneself.
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fake it till you make it only works if you eventually plan on making it.
narcissism + shit genes + complete failure does not a player make
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Apparently you haven’t seen some of Tampa Bay’s most eligible bachelors. And I wish I was joking
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I’ve never met a narcissist who wanted to kill himself. By definition E.R. was not a narcissist.
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Grandiosity on top disguising his completely devalued self: narcissist. The Greeks understood it better than the chattering classes: Koros to Hubris to Ate to Nemesis. The Bible, too: Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
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Here is the problem with your simplistic reductionist reasoning. E.R. could have been one; we’ll leave that up to people more qualified to determine that, but that does not explain why he killed himself. The popular media-driven reasoning out there is that narcissists are more likely to do something like this, but that is probably not true.
If he was in fact a narcissist, there are specific reasons why he did what he did. They do this when their “narcissistic supply” is depleted, which in most cases, they are very skilled at keeping that supply up enough to prevent anything like this from happening.
There are also two different types with have at least 3 different companion disorders, if not drug-induced psychosis. Which type was he? Only those of a certain type are more likely to go off the rails and kill themselves.
And even if you could answer those questions, you would have to be able to explain if the reasons behind it where directly related to narcissism.
This kind of unbiased inspection the media is looking for. The feminist-controlled media is looking to sell us a narrative to protect their political agenda, not any true diagnosis.
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http://samvak.tripod.com/faq28.html
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201201/the-healthy-side-narcissism
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Exactly.
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> “being deeply in love with oneself are fantastic personality traits to possess or cultivate if you want a woman’s love”
The opposite is also true.
Nothing but nothing will get you “Next’ed” by a whore faster than her witnessing you being down on yourself.
It’s why politicians like Slick Willie Blythe Clinton and Barry Soebarkah Dunham Marshall Davis Reggie Love must work so hard to pretend to be above the fray, and why, to maintain the aura of the cult of personality, any failures on their part must ALWAYS be blamed on subordinates.
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What’d he do, pardon that Duck Dynasty guy for his non-PC rhubarb?
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When he thought that it was a propaganda coup, Li’l Barry Soebarkah Love was all too happy to shove his face in front of the cameras in the Rose Garden.
But now that it has proved to have been a public relations disaster, it’s time for poor old drunk Chuck Hagel to be thrown under the bus.
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What fascinates me is the inability of women to recognize the danger such actions foretell for other men in his gang, or for the nation he leads.
Another argument against women’s suffrage.
Now, what to do with the manboobs and those who hunt the mammoth?
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It’s difficult to overemphasize this point – for all the crazy whore femtard cunts, like Sandra Fluke, to continue to be mesmerized by the perception of the invincibility of the master narcissist, it is imperative that all failures be blamed on the other.
The cult of personality simply cannot withstand any perception of fallibility in the object of the idolatry.
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…calling a defector a national hero..nice…definitely an impeachable offense..
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Never underestimate the ability of women to love a self-absorbed, sexist, racist, narcissistic asshole.
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When he thought that it was a propaganda coup, Li’l Barry Soebarkah Love was all too happy to shove his face in front of the cameras in the Rose Garden.
But now that it has proved to have been a public relations disaster, it’s time for poor old drunk Chuck Hagel to be thrown under the bus.
Yes, I noticed that too. Funny. That socialist has no shame. And what a coincidence that it’s Hagel, the conservative, who gets thrown under the bus. Not, say, the State Secretary, who has far more influence than the Secretary of War these days.
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> “…calling a defector a national hero..nice…definitely an impeachable offense…”
For the Sandra Flukes of the world, concepts like right and wrong simply do not matter.
“Wrong” can always be blamed on a loser like Chuck Hagel.
For the Sandra Flukes of the world, what matters is that the master narcissist is SEXY.
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> “Nothing but nothing will get you “Next’ed” by a whore faster than her witnessing you being down on yourself.”
> “For the Sandra Flukes of the world, concepts like right and wrong simply do not matter.”
What is of fundamental importance to the Sandra Flukes of the world is that they never but NEVER witness the master narcissist confess to failure.
A Sandra Fluke must always see the master narcissist ordering his legions, “Full speed ahead!”
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BTW, on the “Ambivalent Sexism” front, Bill Clinton ruthlessly raped poor Juanita Broderick, and Barry Soebarkah’s White House has consistently maintained at least a 12-point sex-differential in salaries:
As Obama Spotlights Gender Gap in Wages, His Own Payroll Draws Scrutiny
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/us/politics/as-obama-spotlights-gender-gap-in-wages-his-own-payroll-draws-scrutiny.html
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aww the president even gave em both a hug
that was a cool vid on top
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In June 2010, Bergdahl managed to escape his captors but was recaptured after five days.[46”””””’
from the wiki
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I watched Eric Cantor’s 4 minute concession speech. He goes in for a kiss with his wife. He gets to peck but she is stonefaced and does not reciprocate.
This is for the Majority Leader of the US House of Representatives. Because he just lost an election. She can’t show any love for him at that moment. The bitch.
When you’re down, the woman will just let you slide down further. She was probably thinking what sex would be like with Prof. Brat who just beat her husband.
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> “She was probably thinking what sex would be like with Prof. Brat who just beat her husband.”
BOO-YAH!
Hungering for some shegetz dick.
LOL’ed.
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lol. That word, I do not think it means what sociologists think it means.
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largely robust = redundantly repetitive 🙂
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Why, you impertinent jackanapes!
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Insipid dullard! 🙂
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Mendacious prevaricator!
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So do you think this repartee made Kate’s vagina wet or dry?
Kate’s invited to respond as well.
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Not really interested in a weather report from her netherlands.
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Your both being deliberately and unnecessarily sesquipedalian.
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Purposefully and superfluously.
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https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=netherlands%20weather
Looks like zero chance of rain 🙂
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Heh… so she insinuates one anyway… go figure.
I don’t avoid the company of Kate… but I do deny her my essence.
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The netherlands are always one dyke away from being flooded.
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Golf clap… well-played.
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I feel more “ew” than “dew,” but, after reading The Mission, someone has to show the youngsters how its fun! The world is your oyster; take a break from the cloister 🙂
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hostile sexism
benevolent sexism
ambivalent sexism
science
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Remember to enforce the PC-newspeak frame! Men enjoy unearned privileges; women are victims of benevolent sexism.
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BIngo
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who even knows what the fuck this shit means
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” In addition, entitlement was a consistent predictor of benevolent sexism in women, but not in men, and a consistent predictor of hostile sexism in men, but not in women. ”
Female entitlement = benevolent
Male entitlement = hostile
…this is the ultimate White Knight frame.
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This projection really boggles the mind. It’s like they completely forgot that women have their own point of view. Was it our supreme gentleman Elliot who wrote this?
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Elliot is dead. But, had he lived, he’d be inundated with jail mail from women who were attracted by his narcissistic, self-aggrandizing, bad boy persona …
And what could be said about a women’s point of view – when the pattern holds so consistently?
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Zeus is the new Narcissus.
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Welcome to Modernity.
All the old virtues are now sins.
And all the old sins are now virtues.
Courtesy of your friendly neighborhood branch office of The Frankfurt School.
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Don’t you mean Narcissus is the new Zeus? If so I understand what you mean.
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All Narcissus ever did was stare at himself… today’s clowns think they’re all-knowing and all-fucking.
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It was also an homage to the old Woody Allen spiel:
Reporter: “You’ve been accused of narcissism in your film work.”
BigJew: “That’s ridiculous… if I identified with any Greek God, it wouldn’t be Narcissus.”
Reporter: “Who then?”
BigJew: “Zeus”.
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> “BigJew”
As above, your friendly neighborhood branch office of The Frankfurt School.
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“Feminist and manboob blogs might punish you for your antediluvian views”
They will certainly attempt to do so, but, they will only have as much traction as you allow. As a general rule, you should never apologize for anything or to anyone. Even a “benign” apology intended to simply placate someone will have broad-ranging negative implications. Indeed, by apologizing or admitting that you could have done something differently, you “frame” the debate or topic in such a way as to give the other party some reasonable belief that they are right and you are wrong. The better approach is not engage these people at all.
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“Feminist and manboob blogs might punish you for your antediluvian views” by calling you a rapist.
There. Fixed it for you. 🙂
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by calling you a rapist.
Or a racist.
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this comes to mind:
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@hugh. that show (the increasingly poor decisions of todd margaret) is pretty fucking hilarious. it may have dragged on a little in places, but, overall, it was a great. sure, david cross is kinda annoying IRL, but there no sacred cows when it comes to his comedy. funny how hivemind-approved folks like cross and louis ck can get a pass on saying some hilarious “racist” and “sexist” shit because they are otherwise in line with the party dogma… makes you wonder how savvy they are to their audience in re. their true feelings. in all honesty, i would probably also play the part if i was in their positions. hard to walk away from power, fame, and money
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Part of the reason is that most people hold vastly different private beliefs than what they say in public. It’s easier to just toe the party line because any group would rather descend on you with faux outrage than admit to their own hypocrisy.
It’s one of the symptoms of a feminized society where not offending anyone is more important than telling the truth and feelings are more important than facts. Even a hardcore lefty like Bill Maher has his moments…
Whenever I say something non-PC in “public” the usual reaction can be described as “I can’t disagree with your argument, but I’m offended”. Shooting the messenger.
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“It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.,” P.G.Wodehouse
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I’ve never understood this advice. If you never screw up, great. But what if you forget to pick your girlfriend up at the airport, or step on her cat when you’re drunk? Just laughing it off isn’t really going to fly. Not all apologies have to involve bowing and scraping and begging. A simple genuine “hey I’m sorry” goes a long way.
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Your answer is in this line Amy, “The right sort of people do not want apologies,”
The right sort of people don’t want you to make mistakes in the first place.
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Pleased to meet you, hope you’ve guessed my name.
Love that song. I wonder how many people get all the CH references.
On another note, I listened to Thunderstruck on YouTube yesterday. Some songs, from various genres, show you what quality is, and thereby show how thoroughly braindead those people are who listen to whatever the music industry and their allied media churn out for the moment, only to jump to the next sound a month later as ordered. Some flatter themselves by sticking to approved subcultures as bad as the mainstream, thinking it makes them special. Some people will look for quality, but they are few. And many of them can’t stand against the overwhelming pressure other than some of the time. Those who truly build a quality collection of their own choice and stick to it are seen as strange. And those who see them so would listen slavishly to that same music if that is what was promoted by the media. In fact. The entire state of music is a perfect illustration of democracy.
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I’m still trying to suss out that troubadour/Bombay reference… sigh.
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I sit and watch the children play/Doing things we used to do/They think are new Heh heh heh I get that!
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Music lowers testosterone in men, increases in women. Go figure. This didn’t change my life btw, but it’s good to know that spinning some tunes helps to grease her wheels.
http://chialvo.org/Curso/UNR2010/Modulo%201%20Musica%20Y%20Neurociencia/Publicaciones/FUKUI.pdf
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I doubt listening to “Fucking Hostile” by Pantera lowers testosterone in males.
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Whoever loves himself is sure to enjoy a lifelong affair.
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Just read about a case in England where a Sikh man stabbed his daughter-in-law in the eyes and slashed her wrists, in front of her children, because he believed she had had an affair with a Muslim Paki. (Google the man’s name “Manjit Singh Mirgind” if you want to see the pictures. It’s gory.) A reminder to those who talk about Middle Eastern immigration as “Muslims”, and say that “Muslims” commit crimes. Religion has jack to do with it. Immigrant Christian Syrians, Iraqis, Africans etc have the same crime statistics. And why not call Mexican immigration “Catholic” immigration by the same logic?
The ones who join gangs are not the least religious, other than when they want to score some point because wars are cool. The truly religious are the ones who act best in the classrooms. The gangs drink alcohol, completely taboo for Muslims, and the female members don’t wear veils. I see these people around me all the time, and trying to make us adopt the neocon worldview and cheer for the wars against Izzyland’s targets because of immigration is ridiculous. Especially since the neocons all support mass immigration. They are the ones who push for the EU to take in Turkey as a member because it’s part of NATO. Bush pushed for amnesty for illegal aliens in the U.S. and for Turkey to join the EU. McCain, he with the adopted ugly Bangladeshi daughter, did the same.
The neocons and their allies in European politics have always pushed for mass immigration – and yet we have religionuts joining nationalist parties and praising the hate state Israel (“they are God’s Chosen people, the Bible says so!”), saying that we should hate the Palestinians and support the globalist wars because “the immigrants are Muslims”. Anyone who disagrees, they attack as a “Nazist extremist”. And the media of course ally with these infiltrators in this matter, publishing their denouncing of other (real) nationalists, while never listening to any nationalist otherwise. The infiltrators always move the party toward the view that “Immigration is okay, as long as they aren’t Islamists – everyone else is our ally against those extremists”. You see this in the Catholic Faction in Front National, for example. This is how movements are hijacked.
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Eventually, non-Muslim sub-Saharan African crime will make immigration a dirty word.
Then again, the PTB continue hellbent on pushing the male sub-Saharan African as a suffering god, just like the YKW.
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I agree
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“Just read about a case in England where a Sikh man stabbed his daughter-in-law in the eyes and slashed her wrists, in front of her children, because he believed she had had an affair with a Muslim Paki. (Google the man’s name “Manjit Singh Mirgind” if you want to see the pictures. It’s gory.) A reminder to those who talk about Middle Eastern immigration as “Muslims”, and say that “Muslims” commit crimes. Religion has jack to do with it. Immigrant Christian Syrians, Iraqis, Africans etc have the same crime statistics. And why not call Mexican immigration “Catholic” immigration by the same logic?
The ones who join gangs are not the least religious, other than when they want to score some point because wars are cool. The truly religious are the ones who act best in the classrooms. The gangs drink alcohol, completely taboo for Muslims, and the female members don’t wear veils.”
THIS is what I’ve been saying for a long time.
It is true that the dysgenic practices supported by Islam may have led to Muslims being more feral than Christians. But the doctrine itself isn’t SO much different that it would explain the differences in violence.
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And why not call Mexican immigration “Catholic” immigration by the same logic?
Ironically enough, now that Mexico’s economy has improved, the wetbacks coming over now are mainly Central Americans, who are actually more likely to be Protestant.
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“A reminder to those who talk about Middle Eastern immigration as “Muslims”, and say that “Muslims” commit crimes.”
Sikhs do no originated in the “middle east”.
“It is true that the dysgenic practices supported by Islam may have led to Muslims being more feral than Christians. But the doctrine itself isn’t SO much different that it would explain the differences in violence.”
The core doctrine, Abrahamic Monotheism, is the same. Judaism birthed Christianity and Islam.
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Note to self:Break off affair with married Sink birch pronto
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I’ve been getting called a sexist a lot lately. Yes hardcore feminism has reached the deep dirty south even. I always either agree & amplify or proudly admit to such a fault with no explanation or act like a consummate assholis erectus and proclaim loudly that God must be a sexist because he made them male and female.
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Sometimes replying with a sincere “Thank you” is a great choice too.
Feminist : You’re such a sexist.
Asshole : Thank you (with a genuine smile)
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I answer “Flattery will get you everywhere.”
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Haha, great handle. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Too much identification. ‘Sexist? OK,’ and such would work better.
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“why that’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me”
“yeah so sexist i think all women should stay in the kitchen and not vote”
“big time. in fact i think sexism could solve world hunger”
“it’s not my fault i’m a sexist, because sexism is a social construct”
(if she’s a hippie) “give sexism a chance”
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“And?”
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Sometimes I think feminist women are just mad b/c they want to fuck you and wish they didn’t. Ultimately they’re at war with themselves, not men.
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“yes i am. in fact i’m now an honorary member of the taliban”
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The only problem is that entitled, sexist, narcissists aren’t fun to be around. It’s odd that these blogs are dedicated to “preserving western civilization” yet encourage to exact opposite behavior. Remember that feminazis carry the same personality traits, they just aren’t focused quite as successfully.
This nation already has a huge entitlement problem and it’s time for people to get their heads out of their asses and ground themselves. There’d be a lot less inner-city crime, mass shootings, social security abuse (which is complained about quite often), and political corruption.
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Yet another reason why a firm dictatorship is the answer to our numerous social problems. You are miserable because you are “free.” Spread the would gents.
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Once the strong man dies (witness Tito), the lands he tenuously held together fragment anyway.
The hell with a firm dictatorship… I say bring on the fragmentation into Ethnostates.
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They would have fragmented before that without the dictator.
Why do (some) dictatorships not last after the original leader? Because globalism, with its “managed democracies” controlled by media and Western taxpayers’ money, dominates. Those who come after often find it easier to ally with the globalists by turning the country into a democracy. If the globalists did not dominate, a dictatorship would last through generations, like they used to do for thousands of years.
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The fragmentation is preferable… one’s own cultural and biological destiny as a folk… why hold off the inevitable break-up and uphold the false union of disparate peoples?
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> “Once the strong man dies (witness Tito), the lands he tenuously held together fragment anyway.”
For a few brief years, Attila the Hun commanded the most powerful army the world had ever seen – at least until Aetius and Theodoric took a big bite out of his forces at the Catalaunian Plains.
Then when Atila died, not quite two years later, his sons took to fighting amongst themselves, and the sons were quickly removed by upstarts, and suddenly the entire Hunnic empire just vanished into thin air.
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BTW, there’s a really seamy Game-Theoretic Evo-Psych undercurrent to the Attila saga.
In the Western Empire, Emperor Valentinian III had promised his sister, the hypergamous femcunt slut whore Honoria, as a bride to some boring loser Beta Roman senator, named Bassus Herculanus, but Honoria was infatuated with the dark swarthy Alpha bad boy, Attila, and so she sent her engagement ring and a plea of help to Attila, to save her from a life of unimaginable boredom in a forced marriage to the Beta herbling manboob drip.
Thereafter, Attila felt that this had been a formal marriage proposal, and that he had a lawful right to marry Honoria, and so he demanded half of the Western Empire as dowry.
Which caused Rome to suffer every manner of bloodshed over the next several years, as Attila fought to seize his dowry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attila_the_Hun#In_the_west
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justa_Grata_Honoria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bassus_Herculanus
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Speaking of things vanishing into thin air, I’ve got another reply about the hypergamous slut whore cunt witch, Honoria, and her role in the Attila saga, but it’s lost in the LIFO stack.
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Yet another reason why a firm dictatorship is the answer to our numerous social problems.
I’m sure plenty of people both domestic and foreign are relieved that the military took control of Thailand, wresting power from the extremely corrupt clique that controlled the country with the help of vote herds from the north and northeast – uglier, darker people who are not Thais, who are the same ethnically as the Cambodians.
The government in Thailand had done what we see in the West, subsidize the vote herds, spread an ideology where low is good and high is bad, and built an establishment together with people in the media and academia. A self-perpetuating establishment where newcomers can join and profit from saying and writing the correct things while keeping dissenters out. Once they have taken over the top positions they can target and destroy political careers, mold other parties, which makes it impossible to remove them through elections.
In fact, I’m sure plenty of people in Washington also know that the military takeover is the best for Thailand, but they are not allowed to say so openly.
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..tell that to the American taxpayers who didn’t go to college, but have to pay for student loans…
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Oh, you think a no-state ideology would free you from having to pay other people? Hah. The first thing people would do without a government would be to create one. Because without a government they would be victimized by gangs and other criminals every day of the week. Libertarians can hold up the current corrupt Western governments as examples of “all government” all they want, but it isn’t true. They refuse to name the true power behind these governments because they are cowards, and so they only dare criticize “government” as a substitute for the real players who are mostly in the media boardrooms, not in government. It is no coincidence that many of the libertarian big names are Tribe members, same as the people in the boardrooms. They don’t like the leftist ideology, but they only create a politically correct opposition that doesn’t hurt the Tribe.
Libertarianism is a homegrown American extremism that no people has ever chosen, which should say something. They claim that they believe in competition creating the best solutions, because the worst will fall by the wayside when compared to the best. But they “forget” that idea when it comes to government, as libertarianism has never beaten out any alternative.
They also like to praise the Founding Fathers, but conveniently forget that the FFs wanted government.
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So what are the true powers behind these governments? Satan is the biblical anwser.
I’m not a Libertarian as both Libertarians and Liberals are anarchists at their core. Just look at the current anarchy of open borders in America.
Also the Founding Fathers were against a welfare state. They would not even grant a Naval officer’s wife welfare.
http://wilsonncteaparty.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/davy-crockett-general-welfare/
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“Federalism” is the answer you seek…
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I have a theory. Benevolent sexism just suggests experience with women. If you’re with a lot of women, you are bound to notice differences between men and women. Kind of like pre-selection.
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on the Bergdahl event. It’s a shame a black fella negotiates with a brown fella to free a white fella. That’s the disgrace here.
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I’m surprised they bothered with him…
I just read the disillusioned e-mails he sent home before his capture… e.g., “ashamed to be an american” and fed up with the hypocrisy, mendacity and toadyism of Army life and our doings overseas…
All of which I’ll give him, btw.
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The thing is, he was no doubt right in his criticism of the military, where patrols carry around small firearms to plant on civilians they shoot “just to be on the safe side”. And he was wrong if he idealized non-White culture as an alternative. But regarding Obama, he of course did not seek to free Bergdahl out of any agreement with his opposition to the globalist occupation. He got him free in the hope of scoring points with the public, not knowing that Bergdahl’s views would come to light. In the globalist paradigm Obama lives in, he betrayed his principles out of selfishness.
As a comparison, if a leader in the Soviet Union had betrayed his oaths by stealing from the government treasury it wouldn’t have been because he wanted to fight the USSR’s ideology that way, but because of greed.
Yet the RINOs now try to present Obama’s acts as something ideological. “He hates America!” …pretending that their neocon ideology is America. No, Obama is still loyal to that same ideology, he’s just self-serving and corrupt at the same time.
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what about the 8 year old sucking dick in bar you were talking bout arbiter before
where did that sick shit come from did you see it
and the patrols carrying around small frearms
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Enough with the “play” and be a man: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Feminism/control_freak.htm
http://ghostofalphaspast.blogspot.com/2014/06/sigma-game-what-women-wantwhat-men-want.html
Just gotta DO IT.
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Ha. Yeah.
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…….There are some differences between NPD and BPD, though:
a.The narcissist is way less impulsive;
b.The narcissist is less self-destructive, rarely self-mutilates, and practically never attempts suicide;
c.The narcissist is more stable (displays reduced emotional lability, maintains stability in interpersonal relationships and so on). ……
http://www.toddlertime.com/sam/82.htm
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FR Monday Night
I had an awesome night. Went out with my little 30YO Indian chick we got a late start because of her family obligations. But I had the whole night and a hotel to play in. We went out to eat and then to a cigar bar for some more cocktails. At this point this chick is so into me that there is just not a lot of gaming going on. She frequently stares deeply into my eyes. She dresses up real nice and sexy for me when we go out. She is looking for ways to please me. There are good conversations and little to no shit tests to speak of. At one point she telling me all the things she likes about me. It is almost surreal how cool and fun it is to have such a beautiful young woman so into me. I am a little worried this chick is going to fall in love with me. Question on this. What should I do to keep the intensity of our relationship up without her becoming too in love? We then went back to the hotel and had some really wild and intense sex she is such a sensuous woman. I put her in the top two women that have ever given me head. We spent the night together and had more sex and breakfast the next morning. She still does not know my real name and I feel at some point I am going to have to tell her at least my first name. Or she will eventually find out and that could be a bad scene. Once again there is no real game going on. Should there be? If so what should I be doing? I mean I am teasing her. Fucking her well, and not telling her my life story. I also flirt with other women like waitresses when we are out. Are there other things I should be doing?
On the way home after such a positive outing, she starts telling me about this guy that lives in another state that is a friend (beta orbiter) and how the guy likes her. (warning shit test on its way in) So she tells me that she told the guy yesterday that she was going on a date with me. And last night the guy sends her a dick pic and she laughs about it. Then tells me about how weird that was. Now up to this point this chick is all about me all the time. So this story took me by surprise. I did react slightly; I just looked at her and said hmmm then quickly changed the subject. I am in no trouble with her. But I wanted to ask how to handle this better. I am keeping this report short to avoid the eternal hell that is moderation. lol
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A.I. reframe game
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/06/turing_test_reading_university_did_eugene_goostman_finally_make_the_grade.2.html
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lying in your bed spread-eagled with hearts bursting full of desire and loins aflame like napalm””””””
yea it is not a bad spot to be in
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Unless mom walks in…
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my chick like again I want to raise a kid with you preferably ours but someone elses is fine
talkin bout raising the preggers blond chicks kid if she signs all rights over to me
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wants me to go doctor see if I can have kids or not
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Prob a bad idea bro
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yea i’m gonna let the preggers blond run its course through life
but if my girl can pop one i’ll let her then keep the kid my wife can raise it if we don’t work out
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kind of weird though that this chicks just like my wife
wants to play house that bad
my wife did take her brothers kid when we didn’t have one
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or did ya mean bad idea on seeing if I can have kids or not
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i dunno, dude, it doesn’t sound like a good environment for the kid to come up in. if your wife can take care of it, great, but you know that ain’t the same as the kid’s actual momma taking care of him
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just saying i’m protected on this one
my wife would treat a kid that had my blood very good I would think
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Suggest a trip to Germany.
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Dealing with an 8
Spanish girl (Spain)
Met on tinder, talked for a bit then stopped for a while and lightly started again. Sometimes I’d text her and she wouldn’t answer, other times we’d chat on snap chat or something. Either way, she called me out of the blue today, and I didn’t answer, because she’d ignored my last couple texts. Made an attempt to call back about 30 minutes later. Know I should have waited longer.
What’s the best way to make this one happen? When we first talked, she actually gave me her number before I asked for it (DTF), calling me “super cute and funny” but I ended up going out of town for a while, and so did she.
There hasn’t been a ton of contact, so how do I put the bun in this oven?
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tell her you want to put bun in her oven
she prob go apeshit
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Dude this is why I stay away from tinder. I haven’t tried it so idk for sure but I hope I never use it.
But I pretty much know girls will just go on tinder for teasing and attention to know that she has boys to fall back on if she gets hurt. I’m talking about quality girls. If you can’t get an avg looking girl to have some fun weird sex then you should start with day game in my opinion. Tinder will just be frustrating.
But if you must:
I would hit her up suuuuper spontaneously via phone call. Say let’s grab a drink at this time at this place. Take it or leave it attitude. If she doesn’t take it. Radio silence. If she does, have a ‘preplanned” escape so u HAVE to leave early. Then if hot enough and if you gamed right, invite her over to your spot to kick it with a couple other people or something and bang out.
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Ok I got a question/situation for the crowd that you may have all observed before:
This has happened to be with 2 young very high smv blondes that I gamed in the past. So, I start seeing a girl for, I don’t know, maybe a month or two in. And I have this sneaking suspicion that she has SERIOUS gina tingles or a fantasy for another guy I I have heard of through other people though not her (say fb or her pictures on her phone maybe idk) AND this guy is unattainable–as in with the first girl he turned out to be gay (came out of the closet) and the second girl I was with the “other guy” had a long distance girlfriend.
BOTH of these guys, I noticed, were great looking dudes as in facially very attractive (no homo).
But these guys were getting huuuuge IOI’s, as in for example my girl was liking evverrrryyyy thing on his Facebook page and teasing a little (obvious ioi shit to me). Naturally This has made me jealous usually but I’ve learned to control that.
My question is this: should you worry about this?
It makes me feel like ‘that guy’ is the dude making her the most wet–although he 95% sure won’t hook up with her. But it’s kind of like that “emotional cheating” idea where she is thinking of some other guy when YOU should be the one on her mind.
A) are these guys just proven “pretty boys” that are in fact super beta? B/c if they weren’t like that they they would realize they could be fucking tons of attractive girls and would be….. So therefore it’s pointless to worry about b/c they’re in fact BETA, they just look good…?
I’m just wondering all of this b/c I noticed that the “pretty boys” that my gfs give a lot of attention to (and that elicited the most jealousy) are in fact usually not the ones that she would be fucking….. Any thoughts?
I’m wondering b/c one of my veryyyy high smv plates and I have been radio silence for a little, and she’s always ioi’ing this pretty boy who has a long distance girlfriend (liking hella shit of his). Just wanted some thoughts
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dude your seein em once a week better pound that shit every day for a bit to get em hooked and forget the 8000 other dudes they fucked
the problem with guys who have jobs Is they gone too much
just save your loot work forget bitches for now lol
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gunslingergregis english is still amazing
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Thanks for the reply. And @gunslinger are you black?
You kinda sound/read like you’re black
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i’m so white I can’t even let people do dirt for me
the prob with you is you are worrying about every bitch you know and meet like it is the one bitch that you love instead of just being another bitch
only a bitch with a proven track record of serving you like a king should get this type of consideration
if you knew a chick a month and she on facebook with another dude so what
you saw her what 4 times in that month best believe she is doing other shit
you also have a chick you been together 2 years with though right?
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oh and I am definitely competing with nigs no doubt
and they make more loot than me or you
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@will. Read GSG’s above paragraph. Dude has some wisdom. Don’t sweat this chick.
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@Gunslinger the girl that I’ve bitched about we haven’t talked in a month…but on off fucking every 1-2 weeks for a year. And there have been 1-2 month breaks twice before in the total year of fucking.
But I’m trying to focus on work now and spin plates in the near future.
My problem is low supply of young super high smv girls even though I’m in a pretty big city… I get addicted to the cutest/smallest/sexiest one easily
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pay the pretty boy all the bitches textin to set you up on dates
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what is special about the chick you have been seeing on and off for two years and how does she fit into the plan you hopefully have for your life
well middle of typing my chick rolled up and pushed back the table with my comp on it and started licking my balls and jacking me off
and there are girls who can lick balls but when she does it you end up on another dimension and shit
I was kind of testing today cause I haven’t fucked her and was seeing how long it would be before the rape happened
so I run around naked anyway but yea she starts riding me then like my insides hurt don’t know if gaming or what but gets me to be on top
pound the shit out it then go fucking puke cause I guess like amusment park ride when ya go to fast motion sickness or some shit I come back after puking guts out and hit it some more
she rollin around on bed after i’m done my insides oh god my insides
man bitches can take some punishment
but anyway lol
if you want a chick that chases you find that chick
the most foreward chick of my entire life was a 19 year old or so niece of my wife who said she is going to marry me one day
point blank period end of story and to me that chick a ten so yea
maybe get to the right spot maybe too
although she got money from current husband for sure and she talkin bout when he croaks he he he
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comment disappeared I guess
but most forward chick I ever seen told my wife she was gonna marry me one day was my wifes 19 year old niece who I thought was a ten
maybe you in wrong spot
although she was talkin bout when current husband died although she will have some pretty nice loot and property stockpiled by then
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It’s because they don’t like you.
Correct response would be to tell the girl that she isn’t pretty and her friends are horrible (she’ll agree, girls are nice like that), if leaving Facebook and/or saying so isn’t an option, and self-consciously keeping up the pretence that females are attracted to other males because of their faces, because you have to own your experiences. But just don’t be ruled by libertarians.
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like I said before the dude of the former preggers chick I know said the young bitches will fuck a dude now like it is shaking hands in the older days
and this dude has no morals like you or I might consider morals
he asked me If I wanted to go fishin and was talkin bout getting copper out a lake by an abandoned fucking mill or some shit
I guess he really wants to be my buddy already asking me to do dirt with him
but that isn’t me
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white dude that hustles 24 7
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shit is funny I told him I was lookin for car he had one delivered In 5 minutes while he was on phone lol
said he put 800 miles on his truck the day before bustin on me a bit for not leaving house and talkin bout my girl getting me out house now that she back
so I mean I can prob learn some shit from his work ethic just not his means of getting financially ahead sometimes
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I saw your side twitter thing about >110 IQ religious folk. Wouldn’t you say though that intelligent religious folk approach religion vastly different than the average and below average IQ religious folk?
They would not take the Bible literally, for example, but interpret it symbolically. They’d also be more inclined to logical paths like Buddhism or Vedanta, which are more philosophies than religions.
I’d say a highly intelligent religious person would have to employ a lot of cognitive dissonance in order to interpret Biblical myths literally. They’d be fooling themselves, and they know. They might talk like a “believer” in front of less intelligent family and friends, but their real, internal approach would be vastly different.
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“I saw your side twitter thing about >110 IQ religious folk. Wouldn’t you say though that intelligent religious folk approach religion vastly different than the average and below average IQ religious folk?”
This has been a pet topic of mine for years now. Nobody ever seems interested in discussing it. Atheists like to clamor on about how super-smart they are for not believing such nonsense, but much like you, I’d argue that Christianity interpreted as symbolic guidance and a powerful civilizing force is attractive to intelligent thinkers.
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what do you use as a definition for religion?
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I’d say people just don’t give it a lot of thought, they’re raised in their religion and so they stick with it and just compartmentalize every time religion conflicts with reality. And I also think many people don’t want to publicly align themselves with atheists because atheists can be annoying.
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“what do you use as a definition for religion?”
A set of customs that relate humanity to an order or existence.
“There is no surer sign of decay in a country than to see the rites of religion held in contempt.” Machiavelli
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I agree Cyro. At the same time, due to its lack of philosophy, Christianity is usually not the choice for intelligent order and civilizing world-view seekers. They tend toward Buddhism, Vedanta, Yoga (which is a philosophy, by the way, not sexercise), etc.
When intelligent people have a cultural predeliction toward Christianity due to being born in a Christian family, they usually approach it culturally only through the celebration of its holidays and such, while for philosophy they turn to the above.
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I agree Cyro. At the same time, due to its lack of philosophy, Christianity is usually not the choice for intelligent order and civilizing world-view seekers.
Christianity’s alleged lack of philosophy is in reality more your lack of understanding its Scripture.
Intelligent order and civilizing world-view seekers? LZOZOZLZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOL. Much sound and fury, kid. I bet you asked Bobby Dylan… you asked the Beatles… you asked Timothy Leary, but he didn’t help you either.
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” I bet you asked Bobby Dylan… you asked the Beatles… you asked Timothy Leary,”
Nah. Western pop culture never did it for me. I’m a classical traditionalist so its Vyas, Agastya and Abhinvagupta all the way, bro!
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Alas and alack, another homage fallen flat!
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I saw your side twitter thing about >110 IQ religious folk. Wouldn’t you say though that intelligent religious folk approach religion vastly different than the average and below average IQ religious folk?
Among traditional Catholics (“sedevacantists”)… not really. The highly intelligent are, of course, more adept at discussing more complex matters of faith, but the faith is the faith.
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So they apply cognitive dissonance to the mythical stories found in the Bible then?
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…What parts of the Bible have been proven a myth? The false gospels and made up histories of fertility cult connections to the Bible have been both disproven and even at times been determined to be out and out fraud and plagiarism.
The only “myth” you could come up with would be creation and the best argument you can attack it with at this point is that mutations drive natural selection. A mutation in nature, however, never accounts for genetic improvement.
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Talking serpent, a talking bush, a guy living inside a fish, a magic wand, getting preggers without insemination, resurrection of dead, etc, etc, etc.
Those with above average (and even average) IQs generally employ cognitive dissonance when reading or hearing about these things, or they actively interpret them symbolically.
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Sid:
It’s an atheist/religious argument, not an IQ-based one. It depends upon if you believe the universe was created by God, or is here randomly.
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“It’s an atheist/religious argument, not an IQ-based one. It depends upon if you believe the universe was created by God, or is here randomly.”
Since there are religions with no creator god narrative, I say its not really an atheist vs non-atheist argument. I’m posting that perhaps those types of philosophy based religions were created by smarter people, and hence perhaps more appropriate for our scientifically based, technological age.
Remember that Christianity had to borrow from non-Christian Greeks to create anything remotely resembling philosophy in their tradition. The Bible contains stories about tribal warfare, some moral injunctions and plenty of myths.
It doesn’t follow that a rational person growing up in a Christian family today would automatically interpret those myths as literal just “because”. Consciousness is a field of study in science today. There is a theoretical case for there being a unifying element behind existence. But it doesn’t follow that I have to interpret a myth about a man living inside a fish, a talking bush or a woman getting pregnant without insemination as literal facts in order to concede that perhaps there is a higher unifying purpose behind our existence, and the existence of all sentient beings.
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Symbolism, hyperbole for effect, and other literary devices aren’t supposed to fly so far and so fast over the head of someone of purported intelligence.
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“It doesn’t follow that a rational person growing up in a Christian family today would automatically interpret those myths as literal just “because”. Consciousness is a field of study in science today. There is a theoretical case for there being a unifying element behind existence. But it doesn’t follow that I have to interpret a myth about a man living inside a fish, a talking bush or a woman getting pregnant without insemination as literal facts in order to concede that perhaps there is a higher unifying purpose behind our existence, and the existence of all sentient beings.”
I agree, well said. This has been so obvious to me for so long that I find it baffling when some atheist argues about the “stupidity” of religion and its “believers”. It seems to me that they’re entirely missing the point.
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“This has been so obvious to me for so long that I find it baffling when some atheist argues about the “stupidity” of religion and its “believers”. It seems to me that they’re entirely missing the point.”
Agreed. Equally baffling are the scriptural literalists.
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I was thinking about that just tonight, actually. I envy my friends who can be playful and get girls blushing with goofy antics, but I am just naturally a smug, arrogant, extremely critical, self-important, perfectionist prick. I have that “walk like a king to be treated like a king” thing in my DNA, and I’m bossy. I naturally assume everybody else is an idiot, and I should be in charge. I move with purpose and efficiency, and try to get the most work done with the fewest body movements.
So if I’m reading CH right, where I already am is basically a good place? I’ve been envying my friends who are all playful and relaxed and stuff. None of us are getting laid one way or the other, but those guys get more girls giggling and blushing. I suck at getting giggles and blushes, but I can make girls cower and obey.
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> “I suck at getting giggles and blushes, but I can make girls cower and obey.”
Yeah, I’d work at throwing some tenderness and jocularity into the mix somewhere.
The really difficult part is getting just the right mix of Alpha aloofness and situational tenderness.
Not too much or too little of either one.
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For instance, on the previous thread, there’s a subthread about how you NEVER want to say “I love you” either during or immediately after coitus:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/how-to-increase-your-beta-male-margin-of-error/#comment-575545
For whatever reason, that’s just way too much tenderness – too much vulnerability, too much weakness – and it makes the gina go cold and dry and the hamster gives up the ghost and assumes room temperature in the hamster cage and your ass gets Next’ed by the filthy slut hypergamous cunt.
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Got another reply in the LIFO stack about never saying “I love you” during coitus.
Check back in about three days.
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I don’t know if I can get to jocularity or not, but I need to blunt the sword a lot, and be stern and fatherly, rather than vicious and cruel.
Stern and fatherly, but playful and loving. Once I master this, young girls with daddy issues should have their legs parting for me like the red sea.
I also got my wife to stop smothering me with her creepy psycho bullshit. Finally.
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I envy my friends who can be playful and get girls blushing with goofy antics,
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Work on making girls cry; then its a simple matter to make em blush.
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Only Adam blushes.
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Seems like all you need to work on is escalation, bray.
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that’s my sister and she never has a problem getting a dude to boss around like he her bitch lol
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How’s this for entitlement: I was hit on by two fat chicks today. I’m entitled not to be hit on by fat chicks! Only ugly or poor guys should be hit on by fat chicks. I am neither!
Who the fuck do these land whales think they are? Who told them they could approach me. This shit pisses me off. Next time it happens your gonna see me on front page yahoo news because I’m gonna spit on them… Fuckin fatties eroding my self esteem and confidence. Go eat some dunkin Dougnuts and jump on a trampoline bitch. You fucking fatties. You overconfident walking spam cans. Fat five with confidence. You disgust me. you piece of goo! Fuck off already or I’m gonna fist you in that hole in your face!
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Ya gots charisma, kid… don’t fight it.
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Sounds a little angry brother. Why let it affect you so much. Do you get mad at the bad weather for interrupting your day?
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Even though I have known about the phenomena for many years I am still unable to put myself in the position of a self loather. I cannot imagine going through life not loving myself and I don’t mean in the go girl, Oprah, sense of the meaning. I give thanks everyday for what I am because I would have made a miserable loser.
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What a beautiful story:
http://news.yahoo.com/two-men-girl-human-shield-until-her-father-040007545.html
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34 year old father of a 17 year old girl.
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CH.. if narcissism and entitlement got men laid, then the hipster class would be in a 24/7 fuckathon, except they are not. Self confidence is good, self esteem is good, not bending over for anyone is great. But what you are describing is a mental illness, which can apparently appeal to other mentally ill, or chronically stupid, people with vaginas. Jesus dude, if you actually believe what you just wrote you need to stop hanging around trashy superficial fuckwits and meet some real people. It’ll do you some good.
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CH usually gets a pass on some of his musings, because most of us have that uncanny feeling there are times when he sorta/kinda trolls the PUA and wannabe crowd a bit.
So, in that light, and speaking not of CH, but of said self-styled PUAs and wannabes whose field reports and other vapid exploits litter this blog, providing much shakin’ o’ mah haid… your observations are spot on.
And THIS qualified as COTW: “…what you are describing is a mental illness, which can apparently appeal to other mentally ill, or chronically stupid, people with vaginas.
Well-done, sir… well-done, indeed.
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CH, there are several broken/defunct links on your blogroll. Any chance at an update? I know many appreciate and value your endorsement.
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I don’t know about this. Most male narcissists I and other therapists I know are very feminist…to the point of switching roles in a very negative way. They expect the women to support them financially and otherwise, and/or feel entitled to burn through her assets in a way that would bring a tear to the eye of even the most hardened female gold digger.
Something is fishy about this study.
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Yeah, I watched some talk show called “The Five” (I think) last week which had Giraldo Rivera circled by 4 women talk show hosts and they discussed issues of the day. So the issue that day was mens’ magazines like Maxim vs womens’ mags like Cosmo. One of them cited a study that showed that men who read Maxim find their respect for women lessening while women who read Cosmo “on the other hand” find themselves able to spurn unwanted advances from men.
I’M NOT KIDDING YOU!
And it was posited that one had the opposite effect of the other (where really there is no equal comparison, it was apples and oranges).
Giraldo brought up the fact that Cosmo contains more sexually explicit content than Maxim does (which contains little to none).
Anyway, it could be argued that Cosmo readers perhaps spurn the advances of unwanted suitors in a rude, disrespectful way, which would make them the same as the supposedly “disrespectful” Maxim readers.
So what’s up with these “studies” and how they are interpreted?
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Looks to me like they’re trying to link everything bad to sexism, when some conditions simply don’t apply. A male chauvanist has a difficult time containing narcissism because it would conflict with his ideas of male responsibility. A chauvanist will assume responsibilities that he doesn’t even have and may not be entitled to until further into a relationship. A narcissist doesn’t take responsibility for damn near anything.
A male narcissist today, finds a more comfortable home and greater number of potential targets, among feminists. He gets to completely cop out of any of the responsibilities of manhood, and uses “equality” as an excuse. If they do behave in a traditionally manly way at all, it is usually a farce to trap a codependent, nurturing woman or Gay man into letting down their defenses.
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OK so what is “benevolent” sexism? Examples?
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“women are better at domestic stuff” vs the taliban-esque version “women belong under three sheets with eye holes”.
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So then the “aggressive” sexism is expecting women to wear niqab? Western men don’t expect that, no matter how sexist or narcissistic. What did this “study” describe as being benevolent and aggressive sexism?
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Saying the same shit from a place of love, rather than bitterness/hatred.
Good –>
Her: I normally don’t do this.
You: tilts down sunglasses, smirks Oh…..really? jerkboy head tilt of peace.
Bad —>
Her: I normally don’t do this.
You: rolls eyes Sure you don’t.
Think about puppies. We all know that puppies shit everywhere and destroy everything, but how do you talk about puppies? Probably from a place of fondness. Same diff, here.
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Right. I think of “aggressive sexism” as contemptuous and misogynistic. The vast majority of the sexism feminists bitch about is benevolent, but it doesn’t stop the PC patrol from labeling it misogyny. True misogyny isn’t common and it tends to waft off a guy like a smell, sort of a biological early warning sign.
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just know that beta male bitterness isn’t misogyny, though femcunts try hard to equate the two. most undersexed betas are bitter but they’re also the opposite of misogynist, retaining their penchant for polishing pussy pedestals in imprudent ploys of hope.
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“True misogyny isn’t common and it tends to waft off a guy like a smell, sort of a biological early warning sign.”
Like Elliot Rodger and George Sodini.
I assume by “benevolent sexism” they mean mild gender roles and expectations that men should be the first to approach and pay for dates, at least the first few ones. Since it seems to square with female narcissism, that would make sense.
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@ Greg Eliot- The Rolling Stone reference is alluding to the death of Brian Jones.
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Bullshit… Jones was still alive when Beggar’s Banquet was released.
As of this writing, of the many celebrations of the talents of Mssrs. Jagger and Richards, clairvoyance is not found among them.
Nor does the “I laid traps for troubadours who get killed before they reach Bombay” make any sense in re Brian Jones himself.
And given the other all-encompassing historic references made in the song by the persona of Satan, a reference to one man’s happenstance death would be a non sequitur.
Don’t perpetuate misinformation, kid.
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This line possibly refers to the notorious Thuggee cult, who worshiped Kali, the Hindu goddess of death. They would waylay travelers on the roads of India, then kill the entire group in order to make off with their valuables. This seems to be the closest well known historical incident to fit the lyrics. Also, the Thuggee would have been well known in England, since the British Army put a stop to the cult during the colonial period.
http://rock.rapgenius.com/The-rolling-stones-sympathy-for-the-devil-lyrics#note-784231
I believe this to be the source for the line.
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“This line possibly refers to the notorious Thuggee cult, who worshiped Kali, the Hindu goddess of death.”
Where did you get the idea that she is a goddess of death?
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I don’t buy some blogger’s opinion… “possibly refers”, heh.
We all have heard of the Thuggee cult from the old Gunga Din movies and Subcontinent studies in grade school.
But it doesn’t grok with “Traps for troubadours…”.
A tenuous grasp at coincidence that Bombay happens to be in India remains an unconvincing “possible” explanation.
I’m surprised Jagger’s not on record as having been asked… or maybe my google-fu just isn’t sharp enough.
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All the other references in the song mention very specific historical events, so I find this explanation somewhat intriguing:
“Gyuto monks of the 100 man choir from Tibet, in 1959 fleeing the Chinese, made a perilous trek into India, and only 10 survived.”
Not exactly a well-known historical event, though… so I guess it’ll remain a mystery, rife with speculation from corners both salient and inane.
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GE- Say what? Next you’ll be telling us that a ham sandwich didn’t kill Mama Cass?!
Thanks for the clarification. Better fact checking on my part next time fosho.
Adolescent myths die hard 😦 As this site continues to illuminate on a daily basis.
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