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Approach Week

June 15, 2014 by CH

Reader Jeremy suggests a way to get the game blog reader addicts off their asses to bust a move.

CH, I have a suggestion.

It would take the cooperation of other major manosphere sites.

If you want to kick the keyboard jockeys out of their habits. Then have an “Approach Week” where all comments sections on manosphere blogs are DISABLED. Leave everyone the explicit instructions to go forth, and approach.

Good idea. I’m game (heh) if at least five other “manosphere” sites agree to the terms. (Qualifier quotes added because I don’t quite know what constitutes a manosphere site.)

The ground rules

Approaching means making a first move on women. The definition of a first move is a bit fluid. For instance, a girl could glance at you flirtatiously, and you could take that as a cue to walk up and say hi. Or you could go in cold and open inattentive girls.

Vocalizations have to be delivered face-to-face so that your approach can’t be mistaken for the passing mumblings of a street bum. You may grunt or wink or belch if it starts a conversation. Approaching does NOT mean staring at a girl and turning away satisfied that she registered your existence.

Comments will be disabled during the chosen “approach week” to motivate bleary-eyed keyboardists into a pair of pants and out of doors to say something to women. Go forth, and approach, as the Good Lord might say in an era when straight up multiplying will get you slapped with child support payments.

Posting may continue during Approach Week. Either the post title or the top of any post published during Approach Week will include a disclaimer that comments are off to honor the spirit of the Approach. (For example: Comments are disabled during Approach Week to encourage readers to limit their internet time and go outside to apply the lessons they have learned here.)

Off the top o’ me scruffily precocious head, here are five manosphere sites which write about game and pickup that might be interested in participating: Return of Kings, Rational Male, Danger & Play, Krauser, Alpha Game. I’m certain there are plenty of sites I’m missing, so if you’re one of them and you like this idea let us know in the comments and we’ll hammer this thing out.

If your broadsheet is listed here and you’re not interested, don’t worry about it. It won’t be skin off anyone’s nose.

Approach Week should happen sometime within the next two months, while the sun is high and the girls are barely clothed. Pending any objections, let’s set aside the holiday week of June 29-July 5 as Approach Week.

Post-Approach Week, CH will dedicate a day to you readers when you may share your experiences in the comments of an open post.

PS If something akin to Approach Week has already been done by other game blogs at other times, disregard this post. The remix is never as good as the original.

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  1. on June 15, 2014 at 8:57 am Jokah Macpherson

    This seems like a good idea.

    It always annoys me that I can never be sure what counts as an approach. Obviously it’s not something to lose sleep over since you don’t want to put the metric in front of the process and goal it’s supposed to measure but I don’t get the same sense of satisfaction from trying to start a conversation with a girl in a public place when she doesn’t even respond versus when it proceeds well for ten minutes – even though it takes more or less the same amount of social courage to do either.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 9:59 am Zombie Shane

      ***COUGH*** put a bun in her god-damned oven week ***COUGH***

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:47 am Jay in DC

        Cart… Horse… gotta, you know get ‘her’ before you can close the deal. Just sayin…

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 1:57 pm Zombie Shane

        Fuckin A, man.

        You only live once.

        Lose your virginity and become a father nine months later.

        A bird in the bush AND in the hand.

        BOO-YAH!!!

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 10:18 am Arbiter

      It always annoys me that I can never be sure what counts as an approach.

      When you go in with the purpose of getting her contact info so you can see her again.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 11:21 am bob

      More than an approach week, we need a neg week. A week where you don’t trick girls into believing they are cute snowflakes. A week where you tell them the cold hard truth. Why would you do something that will surely cost you bangs?

      Because once you have negged her hard, how easy is it going to be for the guy after you? Now, imagine someone negged that cute hot 8 hard, called her out on her bitchy behaviour, she is doubting herself, and you are the next guy she meets. You think it’s going to be a hard pick-up? You think she is going to be bitchy?

      Can you imagine how great girls would be if guys did that all the time? If you really want to have a political impact, at some point you’re gonna have to organise large impact homework like that. Looking forward to it.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 11:46 am CH

        if you neg a girl hard, most probably it will be you, not the next guy, who gets to enjoy her secret garden.

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  2. on June 15, 2014 at 9:01 am Approach Week | Manosphere.com

    […] Approach Week […]

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  3. on June 15, 2014 at 9:01 am Amy

    Happy Father’s Day to the Dads! ❤

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 9:58 pm theasdgamer

      Thank you, darlin’.

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  4. on June 15, 2014 at 9:18 am Flip

    O/T-
    A candidate for alpha of the ages: Ibn Saud. He founded Saudi Arabia through conquest and named it after himself and had a hundred children who continue to rule it.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 1:49 pm Arbiter

      How about eight hundred seasoned soldiers forcing thirty thousand government uniform fillers on the run? (Mosul) And doing it with nothing but light weapons and a year of planning. Setting aside politics etc, that has got to be one of the most amazing military accomplishments in a long time. I come to think of Julius Caesar taking just one legion and moving down from Gaul through the Italian peninsula to take Rome before his enemies could mobilize a response.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm Zombie Shane

        This is a point which I have been trying to make on the last several threads – how a core group of committed determined relentless Alpha Sociopaths can mow down legions upon legions of Beta/Gamma cowards.

        And why bitchez would naturally be repulsed at the thought of that Beta/Gamma seed of cowards being dumped in their birth canals anywhere near ovulation time.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 3:02 pm PA

        Those “beta” soldiers probably just weren’t all that motivated. That’s how small forces usually rout big armies.

        If they gave you a uniform and a rifle, and told you to die for Diversity, Kanye West, and Gay Marriage, would you be a Medal of Honor performer?

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:00 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Would you die for Lady gaga?”

        If she were still 17.

        But not if she were 30.

        LOL’ed.

        Hey, did you see where the patriots in France were ridiculing Madonna as “Granny Gaga”?

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/madonna/10874388/Madonna-labelled-Granny-Gaga-by-Front-National-after-she-calls-them-fascists.html

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:33 pm Zombie Shane

        ALPHA SOCIOPATHS ON THE MARCH:

        Reports: Explosions in Baghdad’s Green Zone
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3168080/posts

        This could get bad.

        Our embassy might be surrounded already.

        Fuck the libtarded State Department sodomites, but shit damn, we need to make sure that our Marines are okay.

        Time for some generals and admirals to start going rogue.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 5:13 pm PA

        Time for some generals and admirals to start going rogue.

        YES. All those pretty boys at West Point and Naval Academy. Lean muscles, sharp engineer brains, smart crew cuts. What were they doing all those pull-ups for — to look pretty in call A uniform? Or to orchestrate a military coup and put up against the wall and enemies of the American people, internal and domestic?

        They can do the right thing, or they can salute at gay marriage events on base chapels and then leave and get a contracting gig.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 6:34 pm Arbiter

        Would you die for Lady gaga?

        Or for the EU? Who would ever die for the EU, as opposed to just collecting a paycheck by obeying it? That’s something I like to ask people when we discuss our globalist overlords, always makes them smile.

        Our embassy might be surrounded already.

        Let’s not fall into a linguistic media trap. It’s not “your” embassy. The mercenaries are not “your” sold… I mean, “troops”. (“Soldiers” sounds too warlike, not clinical enough.) Soldiers paid by British, Dutch, German taxpayers, etc, are not “our” soldiers either. Any officer protecting my interests would be fired immediately. And no, the ISIS soldiers won’t take Baghdad, that is impossible. They have only taken territory inhabited by their own, and they did it by surprise. Read the libertarian Antiwar website on this, they have good commentary. LewRockwell too (they are related). I say this and I’m not libertarian. Kudos where deserved.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:44 am Zombie Shane

        > “It’s not “your” embassy.”

        I hope you mean this sarcastically, in the sense of it being the embassy of the internationalist illuminati elites.

        Because in classical terms [and, granted, we are rapidly moving into post-classical times], that embassy is USA soil.

        Plain and simple.

        Attacking an embassy is an act of War.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:49 am Zombie Shane

        > “pretty boys”… saluting “at gay marriage events on base chapels”…

        God damn it, PA, are you trying to ruin my day?

        Fuck, it’s only Monday, are you trying to ruin my entire week?

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  5. on June 15, 2014 at 9:25 am K

    Can you also give tips for women, how to be more confident with the opposite sex? I don’t know, the last two posts totally destroyed my confidence. Maybe regular female readers can keep commenting, is there an option like that? If not, you can also have ‘Women’s week’ where we only talk about girls game and similar topics.. ?

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 9:46 am Flip

      Girl game? It’s pretty easy. Don’t get fat, be pleasant, and lock a guy down before you get too old.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:29 am Heywood Jablome

        Here endeth the lesson, K.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:45 am K

        Every woman is skinny and pleasant (at least where I live) so I don’t think of this as very important.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 9:51 am Kate

      You don’t need “confidence.” You need to make *men* feel confident. Men fall in love with the way a woman makes them feel. The less masculine you are, the more masculine he will feel. Make sense?

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:20 am Amy

        Well, she needs enough confidence to avoid neediness.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:25 am Arbiter

        Good thought.

        Smile and be warm and polite when a guy approaches. Think of flowing water. Be slim, or even work out – weight-lifting with squats and lunges and all is not just for men, it gives women a great shape, and no, it doesn’t make you muscular.

        Wear clothes that indicate femininity. I know a girl who always wears a scarf over her shoulders, which was the reason I approached her in the street; I thought that this girl must be very interesting to talk to. I used to know another girl in college who always wore scarves and bracelets and the like. It looked so different from what the other girls were wearing, and she had such a pleasant personality to go with it, that guys always circled around her at parties. And she was polite and pleasant to them all.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:54 am Arbiter

        Also, on the topic of displaying femininity: I once dated an Asian girl who liked to watch beauty tutorials on YouTube: makeup, hair, clothes. There are a lot of these tutorials made by Asian “gurus”, apparently they love the topic. Many by White women too, but speaking about numbers in proportion to population, the Asians really go in with gusto.

        It is sad that, yes, truly Asian women often show more femininity. (And let’s not hear the usual “they act sweet until they get your money!” keyboard-jockey crap. I can see through acts, and I know when I’m not seeing an act.) This is not because White women would be innately deficient in that area, but because it has been almost erased, so many women don’t know how to begin. They can still be very pleasant to be with, but there is a certain je ne sais quoi that is usually lacking. Looking at some of these “gurus”, I see it. One is called “beautifymeeh”, and another is called “luvableviet” – the latter’s Lifetalk videos, recorded Q/As with subscribers through YouTube chat, often show remarkable feminine charisma. She is self-employed with several different business ventures by the way, and such people tend to be more interesting overall. If you want to see an example of relaxing femininity, I recommend those videos. You can’t learn everything through a video, but it can give pointers.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:14 am Lara

        I like the scarf advice. Classy, feminine women wear scarfs. Trashy and/or masculine women don’t seem to like them. It conveys an attention to detail, and an appreciation for beauty.
        Confidence is important when dealing with other women. Other women like women who are confident in their interactions with them. It doesn’t matter so much with men. With men you need to be nice.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:48 am Cuckinglinguist

        I agree, that is true in both negative and positive form. Single mummy can sometimes be over bearing and emasculate their son. Turning him into a co dependent who seeks the same treatment.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 10:02 am no

      Men love complements, especially about their looks. Being nice will get you further than confidence.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 10:04 am Zombie Shane

      > “girls game”

      1) Never mudshark yourself.

      2) Learn to recognize the pump-n-dump PUAs for who they are. And if you do get pumped and dumped by a PUA, then do NOT let it break your soul.

      3) Never allow The Darkness to fester in your heart.

      4) Fill your heart with Love, and with Truth, and with the Logos [even though, as a woman, you won’t know what the Logos is – just do it anyway].

      5) Live to have coitus with your man [if you’re frigid in this day and age, then that’s a huge deal breaker].

      6) Be honest – tell him IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that you want to give birth to his children.

      7) And if honesty doesn’t work, then lie about being on BC, and get him to knock you up regardless.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:18 am Zombie Shane

        > “if you’re frigid”

        I don’t know that much can be done with truly frigid women who just can’t orgasm no matter how hard they work at it.

        But if you are sort of marginally frigid / marginally sexual, then it seems to me that masturbation could go a long way towards training your clitoris [and your G-spot] to orgams more regularly and predictably.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:20 am Zombie Shane

        Just always masturbate with nothing more than your own fingers [and your own saliva].

        You don’t want to start masturbating with these baseball-bat-sized hard plastic dildoes and then allow yourself to believe that any real man’s erection won’t be hopelessly small and flaccid by comparison.

        [I actually wonder whether the female porn stars who get fisted on a regular basis can even enjoy sex with a man anymore.]

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:28 am Arbiter

        You don’t want to start masturbating with these baseball-bat-sized hard plastic dildoes

        Well there goes my birthday-gift idea.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:34 am Zombie Shane

        Another really important point – if you’re a horrible kisser or a horrible BJer [hint – lots of furious tongue on the “underside”, and NEVER BUT NEVER allow your teeth graze it anywhere] – then confess this to him.

        Tell him to teach you how to be a better kisser. And how to give a better BJ.

        This also goes for orgasm time – if you need more like 20 minutes to come [rather than sixty seconds] – then be honest and tell him that.

        And get him to work with you so that you can relax and cum more quickly.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:44 am Zombie Shane

        > “if you’re a horrible kisser”

        ‘French kissing’ means that the two of you are twirling your tongues around one another in each others’ mouths.

        Get your tongue out of your mouth and as deep into his mouth as you can.

        Don’t let your tongue just lie there doing nothing in your mouth.

        And with as much saliva as you can muster.

        Nothing is worse than a “dry kiss”, so always lick your lips before you kiss him.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:44 am Zombie Shane

        In fact, moist is always the rule – you want your kisses as wet as possible, just like you want your coitus [i.e. your birth canal] as wet as possible.

        When you interact with your man, there is no such thing as ‘too wet’.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:50 am Zombie Shane

        > “and NEVER BUT NEVER allow your teeth graze it anywhere”

        When it’s in your mouth, think of yourself as an old woman who has removed her dentures.

        You want your top lip over your top teeth and your bottom lip over your bottom teeth.

        With a mouth full of moisture, as above.

        Teeth contact is an absolute deal-breaker – it is intensely painful and disturbing to your man [as if, say, he were to dump beach sand in your birth canal].

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:08 am Zombie Shane

        8) ALWAYS SMELL NICE!

        I once broke up with a girl because she had eaten jalapeno peppers right before she kissed me and her breath stank like diarrhea.

        She never learned that that was why we broke up, but it was what ended our relationship for good.

        It is almost impossible to overemphasize how important your scent is to a man – your mouth, your underarms, your birth canal – all of it.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:09 am Zombie Shane

        If you want to obsess about anything, then obsess about how you SMELL!

        In fact, if I were a woman, then I would obsess about my smell even more than I obsessed about my weight.

        Dudes can excuse a big curvy gal – D-Cups, big hips – who could maybe stand to lose five or even ten pounds.

        But there is no excuse for any foul odor out of you.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:53 am LP

        5) Let’s talk about this seriously. Women do NOT like sex. They just don’t. They like getting drunk and fucking in their early years because it makes them feels desirable. It’s a narcissistic impulse.

        My friend went on a date with a woman who actually told him,on the first date, that physical intimacy didn’t matter that much because, “isn’t that what vibrators are for?” She was looking for “more.”

        But if women truly wanted sex, they would actually have sex with their husbands just to get off, but they don’t. They literally forget to do it for weeks, months, years. It is a bargaining chip used early on in a relationship to get a man interested and then to lock him down.

        This is why women prefer careers and small dogs to family and husbands. They don’t have to trade sex for survival anymore. I don’t know what this means for society 30 years or so down the road. But no one will talk about it. They will only discuss the “work arounds”, like game, etc, which don’t get to the heart of the problem. I think blaming feminism, exclusively, is off the mark. There is someone going on beyond mere cultural shifts, perhaps evolutionarily, that is also playing a role.

        That said, it’s not the feminists that the MRAs should be so angry with, but the alpha sperm donors who are going to make it all possible for women to have children while eschewing the institution of marriage, and sexual relationships, completely. Call me insane if you want, but this is exactly what is already happening in countries like Japan. We are not so far off.

        If you want to see the hottest, youngest, sweetest, and most sexually unavailable women in online dating, check out out http://www.asexualitic.com and you’ll see what I mean. Prepare to get massively depressed.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm Arbiter

        Nine posts after each other. Are you going slingergregi on us, Shane? 😛 But yes, agree about the smell. This goes for men too, of course.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 3:55 pm Randy the Random

        “And if honesty doesn’t work, then lie about being on BC, and get him to knock you up regardless.”

        Are you sure you’re on the right forum? Jezebel is that way.

        Reliable male birth control would fix all of society’s problems overnight. Think about it for one sec. Women couldn’t have their cake and eat it too. The only reason western women whore around till they’re 40 is because they know they can always make an “oops” baby with an alpha at the end of the ride.

        Give men reliable birth control, and we’ll back to a conservative society overnight. No man will commit to fathering children with a whore. The whores will weed themselves out of the wife pool, and men will only reproduce with women who demonstrate that they’ll be excellent mothers. Women will control sex as always, but men will control commitment and reproduction. Whores will be for a fun ride, and wives will be for family.

        We are currently caught in a weird transient time where men have no reproductive rights. Whores chase apex alphas for their seed and use the children as a sword of Damocles to force commitment. Alphas have no reliable countermeasure, as extant male birth control methods require rational decision making while sporting a rock hard erection. Not our strongest skill set.

        Reversible, effective and safe male birth control will change everything.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:04 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Are you sure you’re on the right forum? Jezebel is that way.”

        I want White babies in White ovens.

        And if the girl is curious enough to run with us, then let’s see to it that she gets knocked up.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:10 pm Lucius Somesuch

        Whoa whoa WHOA here!! LOZLZOLZ

        Nice points, Zombie Shane, but they don’t teach Western girls stenography no more.

        We got– hold on, let’s see: masturbation, no hard dildos, no fisting, lip gloss, no peppers before making out, wet coitus, smile, no diarrhea, be nice, play chess, anal intercourse . . .

        –all well and good, but seriously: some of these laundry items I don’t need my bun-warmer even to know about. Let’s not throw the girl off the deep end. Maybe (hopefully) the porno regimen doesn’t even apply?

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:15 pm Zombie Shane

        Lucius Somesuch – I haven’t laughed that hard in a while.

        I laughed so hard I got some tears in the corners of my eyes.

        Still laughing.

        Starting to choke.

        Oh boy.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:37 pm Randy the Random

        “I want White babies in White ovens.

        And if the girl is curious enough to run with us, then let’s see to it that she gets knocked up.”

        Your experience with females is quite limited if you think that’s all there is to it. Very few men would object to having kids if their only responsibility was inseminating the female.

        In all western countries, having a child with a woman immediately puts you at the mercy of the divorce law industrial complex. Many men have selected death after having experienced it first hand. Hell, there’s even a documentary about it:

        I appreciate the passionate persistence of your trolling, but for the sake of the impressionable young kids reading this, I must set the record straight.

        Do not ever father children unless you have cohabited with a woman for 5 years. Only then will her true nature be revealed to you. VERY FEW western women are capable of being long term caring mothers, and even fewer are capable of being loving mothers AND wives.

        Game and LTRs are cheaper, safer, healthier and more amenable to shift society towards more productive outcomes. Whores will keep being whores, until they can’t.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 6:33 pm cryo

        Thank you, Randy the Random, for setting the record straight.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:33 am Zombie Shane

        > “Your experience with females is quite limited if you think that’s all there is to it.”

        LOL’ed.

        Dude, for the umpteenth time, there are three legitimate, purposeful, honorable, noble uses for Game:

        1) To seize a nice girl from a good family and make her your own.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:34 am Zombie Shane

        2) To hold your family together in the face of relentless cultural poisoning on the part of the Frankfurt School, intended to destroy your family.

        3) And have the time of your life in accomplishing 1) & 2).

        If you hold Alpha frame, then everything will be fine.

        Divorce Industrial Rape is for Betas.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:54 am Jay in DC

        DA FUQ, ZS?! Did you snort a couple of lines of fishscale grade blow this morning? Not since our “philosemite” female defender left our hallowed halls have I seen this many posts in a row. (excepting gsgregi who I just assume sustained a traumatic brain injury in Eye-Wrack.)

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 12:39 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Did you snort a couple of lines of fishscale grade blow this morning?”

        LOL’ed.

        Well, she wanted a primer on “Girl Game”, and I just started thinking of all the mistakes that bitchez have made with me over the years.

        There are some really good suggestions on this thread, btw.

        For instance, ASD below is telling her to grow her hair long [it never even dawned on me that the girl might have a dyke mullet cut].

        And even mordecai THWACKowitz had some good advice about always smiling.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 12:45 pm Zombie Shane

        LP: “Women do NOT like sex. They just don’t… check out out… asexualitic…”

        I discussed the phenomenon of the frigid girl who can’t orgasm no matter how hard she tries.

        But in my experience, the truly frigid girl is the exception, not the rule.

        The overwhelming majority of my bitchez just cum and cum and cum and cum for me.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 12:48 pm Zombie Shane

        LP: “physical intimacy didn’t matter that much because, “isn’t that what vibrators are for?””

        I explicitly warned her to only masturbate with her own saliva and her own fingers.

        And not to fall in love with a vibrator which no man’s natural erection could possibly hope to emulate.

        LP: “She was looking for “more.””

        Where “more” translates out of femcunt, and into English, as the word, “ALPHA”.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 12:51 pm Zombie Shane

        LP: “This is why women prefer careers and small dogs to family and husbands. They don’t have to trade sex for survival anymore. I don’t know what this means for society 30 years or so down the road. But no one will talk about it. They will only discuss the “work arounds”, like game, etc, which don’t get to the heart of the problem. I think blaming feminism, exclusively, is off the mark. There is someone going on beyond mere cultural shifts, perhaps evolutionarily, that is also playing a role.”

        This is a huge topic, and I’ll have trouble getting my reply past the LIFO stack.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 12:55 pm Zombie Shane

        LP: “someone going on beyond mere cultural shifts”

        Do NOT underestimate the power of the poison which the Frankfurt School is pumping into the culture 24×7.

        When the culture ceases to value God, which is to say, when the culture ceases to value the Logos, which is to say, when the culture ceases to value LIFE ITSELF, then The Darkness moves in to fill the vaccuum.

        Which is why I keep screaming at dudes to avoid the femcunts with The Darkness in their hearts.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 1:02 pm Zombie Shane

        LP: “perhaps evolutionarily, that is also playing a role.”

        But I am also very amenable to the idea that the genes play a role, as well.

        First posit the possibility of the existence of a Biological Calvinism – the idea that our morality probably has a strong genetic component to it.

        And then assume that the modern world allows for exponentially more “assortive mating” than ever before in the history of our species.

        CONT.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 1:04 pm Zombie Shane

        CONT.

        And then assume that a young man and a young woman in college, or in graduate school, or later in their careers, hook up to make one or more babies.

        And finally assume that both of them have a “Biologically Calvinistic” genetic propensity for The Darkness in their hearts.

        Then what might you be dealing with in their offspring?

        The possibility that Modernity is breeding some very, very Dark personalities.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 10:11 am passerby

      Are you fucking kidding? There’s a whole goddam industry devoted to “girl game”. Get off your lazy ass and go find it.

      Fucking kids today…

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 10:25 am Amy

        Women’s dating advice blogs are usually worthless.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 11:35 am thwack

        Smile

        Smile

        Smile

        all the time.

        As a woman, thats really all you hafta do.

        It makes a HUGE difference to those of us who hafta walk around with our fist balled up all goddamn day. I don’t even like Starbucks coffee, but I go there just for the perky white girl smile.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:45 pm yeahokcool

        @thwack. Sometimes your self-loathing shines brighter than usual. Why are you so angry at yourself and the wider world?

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 11:56 am K

      Thanks to everyone who wrote a comment. By confidence I did not mean aggressiveness or loudness. I thought more about the good feeling people have about themselves – if they do? I just can’t have it and I’m afraid it affects my communication with men. I’m always afraid that I’m too old, ugly, boring or stupid for men I really like. Maybe I am greedy and entitled and I should settle for someone I don’t really care about but if ALL men are attracted to teenagers I guess a 30 year old woman can not make any man truly happy? No matter what I do, NO man will ever be able to truly love me because I am too old.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 1:40 pm Arbiter

        Thirty years old is definitely not too old!

        When I was 26 I used to see a girl who was 32 once in a while. (She lived in another city, and that plus the age difference meant we wouldn’t be a couple, but we still had some fun nights.) She looked better than many girls who were eight years younger, and she had a sweet, bubbly personality. I remember lying in bed after we had had sex one of the first times, and she came back from the bathroom and actually bounced up in bed and on top of me, with a big smile. That was one of the cutest things I had seen.

        You don’t have to look as good as those ten years younger than you; you just have to be in the upper half, quality-wise, of those in your same age. Then you can hold your head high.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 1:50 pm Married

        ” I guess a 30 year old woman can not make any man truly happy? No matter what I do, NO man will ever be able to truly love me because I am too old.”

        you’re so wrong i don’t even know if you’re serious.

        assuming you’re not just trolling, just remember that most men will go for women who are significantly younger than than themselves. the women don’t have to be 20. a fit and feminine 30 year old woman looks pretty damn good to a 40 year old man in general.

        george cloony is like 52 and going to marry amal alamuddin who is like 35. and i can see why, even tho he is george fucking cloony and could have a different 20 year old every night.

        i’m 48 and fell hard for a 36 year old. this stuff happens all the time. just raise your own age target.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 2:38 pm AnonymousFunk

        M, are you still mad at me about the cab ride the other night? Quit being such a spoiled princess.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 3:38 pm Flip

        You could get a successful guy in his 40s who still wants to have kids.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm LP

        Move to NYC or LA. There are so many messed up guys in their late 40s/early 50s just thinking about now settling down. They are out of options with the 20 something girls who have already married off and started families. They know they missed the boat and have relaxed standards.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:20 pm Zombie Shane

        A, I hope your 32-year-old found a good man to knock her up.

        Before it was too late.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 6:44 pm Arbiter

        Shane, she actually did get pregnant one year later, and she moved in with the guy. By the end of our acquintance she was very sad about that: that we were seeing each other but it wouldn’t lead to anything. “Friends with benefits” usually doesn’t last long.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:17 am Zombie Shane

        Sounds to me like she was broken-hearted that it wasn’t your child.

        That she had a chance to make a child with a man she really cared about – deeply and profoundly – but she blew it.

        The tragedy of it all probably broke her soul.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:10 pm no

        What you seek is validation. Only a man who loves you can give you that.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 3:34 pm Anonymous

      I agree that lately it feels extra soul-destroying. Many females read this blog, women who are red pill and try to behave ethically, who lack a religious or political affiliation or cultural tradition for support. But I realize this is manosphere turf, so maybe someone could direct us to a female red pill site. Sensible self-help without the ego-preserving lies, that kind of thing.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 4:19 pm Zombie Shane

        Lots of dudes post dialog from openers, and cellphone txt chats, and Match or Tinder or Jewbook back and forths, and then ax for pointers on how they could improve their “Game”.

        If you wanna post some stuff like that, then we would be happy to tell you how to make it sexier and more alluring.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 7:45 pm Arbiter

        You are in luck! Simply look up the Advice Goddess, Amy Alkon, a syndicated advice columnist. Click on “Columns” at the top of her website, you’ll find articles to read. I swear she reads the manosphere. Her bio says she “takes a rigorous, scientific evidence-based approach to the advice she gives”, and in her website picture she holds a fly swatter while wearing a long cocktail dress. That alone…!

        Her advice to one girl, a vegetarian who thinks she needs to speak out against “murder” of animals at any social activity her boyfriend brings her to, is “Men tend to like it when a woman screams passionately, but it’s less sexy if what she’s screaming is ‘McDonald’s is murder!'”

        “But, wait — you’re trying to do some good; don’t you ‘deserve’ a boyfriend? You, like the rest of us, deserve not to be run over by a truck. The Declaration of Independence also spells out that ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ stuff we’re all supposed to get. That’s right; you have a right to chase happiness. It doesn’t get delivered to your door.”

        Another quote from her: “The reality is, inner beauty alone usually isn’t enough, which is why Estee Lauder got rich selling face cream and not books by Gandhi.” Refreshing to see a woman naming uncomfortable truths.

        I think I’ll suggest that CH link to her.

        Then there’s the HBD Chick who CH does link to. She makes a lot of good points about how we are, after all, biological beings shaped by evolution both to body and mind. All reasoning about social interactions follow from there.

        There is a wordpress blog called suchagirl2 which seems to be about sexual submission, but she also has a lot of links on the right side to other women’s blogs. I bring up suchagirl2’s blog because it is linked to by Truth and Contradictions, at Scoop it!, which links to what the owner JW considers are the best manosphere stories of the week. (There are always, always links to CH there.) Possibly you can find other women’s blogs linked to there.

        Another blog that Truth and Contradictions links to is JudgyBitch, who is an MRA (Men’s Rights Activist) writer. I believe CH linked to one of her stories in Twitter: “What happens when Jezebel lets a man take over posting for the weekend? Heh. Brilliance, quite frankly!” Look it up, it’s fun reading.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:53 am Kate

        This is the best place for you. Peruse the archives and “spar” with the commenters. I made a reading list for you though, if you’re interested.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:05 am gunslingergregi

        well i’d let my girl run a boot camp on how to make a man fall in love for the right price he he he
        she a pro

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:09 am Amy

        “Sensible self-help without the ego-preserving lies, that kind of thing.”

        You can get it here. Forget about age because there’s nothing you can do about it. Focus on looking your best, work out, grow your hair long, use makeup, wear skirts and heels, smell nice, be sweet, friendly, low-drama. Doing these things and seeing the results will give you confidence.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:08 pm Zombie Shane

        Amy, you left out, “DITCH THE GOD-DAMNED BIRTH CONTROL!!!”

        If he’s a good man, with a good heart, then get yourself knocked up with his babies!

        It’s why God created this stupid fucking planet for us to inhabit.

        For baby-making.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 10:10 pm theasdgamer

      Grow your hair long, wear a skirt or dress and as high heels as you can tolerate if you’re short. Wear makeup that shows off your best attributes and hides problem areas. Ditto for your clothing. Read articles about how to be sweet and warm and how to flirt. Practice smiling at retail clerks.

      Lose your snarky, bitchy, mouthy, slutty friends. Find virtuous friends who are warm, sweet, loyal, helpful, etc.

      Work out to eliminate back-of-the-arm flab.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:19 am Zombie Shane

        Outstanding advice from ASD.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:21 am Kate

        Focus on triceps, bottom, and stomach. The hip abduction and adduction machine is your friend 🙂

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:11 pm Zombie Shane

        Kate, I thought you had a fiancee now.

        I hope you’re working out at home.

        Cause a spoken-for woman ain’t got no bidness whatsoever hanging out in a meat market den of iniquity like a “health club”.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:21 pm Kate

        Please. Now that I”m a SSAHM, I’m hangin’ with the retirees! 🙂

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:14 pm theasdgamer

        SSAHM? Single, stay-at-home mom? And you’re working out with retirees?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:21 am Kate

        Summer Stay at Home Mom 🙂 You bet! They’re inspiring. Gotta have role models.

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  6. on June 15, 2014 at 9:57 am no

    You could have an approach challenge that week; one for each level beginner, novice, and alpha.

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  7. on June 15, 2014 at 10:41 am Arbiter

    It is a great idea, as I said to Jeremy earlier. Kick the keyboard jockeys a little.

    And if some of them are lost to computer games because their usual game, roleplaying in comment sections, is gone, then so much the better.

    I hope other sites will be willing to go for it, instead of hoping that they’ll pick up the readers when the other sites go no-comment. This is the moment of truth: do you care more about your own site or more about game? Can the manosphere really take action together, the sign of a movement?

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  8. on June 15, 2014 at 10:49 am Slaughter

    CH, what do you think about the krauser approach?

    guy: hi, mild compliment
    girl laughs, saying thank you
    guy introduces himself, giving his hand for a handshake (kino)
    then he goes on for the ramble (asks for her nationality if she’s foreign for example)
    then he says usually number closes

    I’ve tried this approach 4 times and it worked every time but it seems too pushy and nice. They don’t flake but on paper it doesn’t to cause too much attraction

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 11:13 am quorasdesignatedasshole

      Who cares about the paper?

      If they’re not flaking then it’s working. Keep working it till it works for you.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 2:09 pm Slaughter

        peacocking works too but I aint gonna dress like somebody else… The method is too nice and can come off as suave and needy… Look at how cold she is towards him in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRV5c48ZnM

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 12:54 pm gunslingergregi

      that is how woman approach another woman every time
      hi compliment
      or at least my woman

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  9. on June 15, 2014 at 11:12 am martin

    I will try to participate. It makes sense to compile all the results in one location so allowing a time period to pass without comments and then turning on comments sounds fine. Is there an intermediate mission that can be assigned?

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  10. on June 15, 2014 at 11:13 am Ri Sy

    Seriously I don’t understand what is up with all these lines. I just go up to the girl and say “Hi, how are you?”

    They usually smile and talk back. It is simple works wonders, and is so effective.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:58 am Jay in DC

      There are so many variables in attempting that I don’t know where to start.

      The first of which is, you are probably of average or above average looks. Secondly, location location location. Roll up on some lawyercunt in DC with her tight fitting corporate power suit on. Let me know how far you get past the cold open.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:12 pm Zombie Shane

        > “some lawyercunt in DC with her tight fitting corporate power suit on”

        THE DARKNESS.

        IN HER HEART.

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  11. on June 15, 2014 at 11:19 am Arbiter

    Qualifier quotes added because I don’t quite know what constitutes a manosphere site.

    As with many other things, hard to pin down exactly. I suppose, the manosphere is about game, self-improvement and issues that relate to men. But one common theme that runs through it all is a rejection of pretty little lies, such as:

    “There is no such thing as beauty, everyone is beautiful”
    “Love just happens, you can’t make someone love you”
    “There is no such thing as intelligence, everyone is intelligent”

    …The flattering egalitarian lies with no basis in reality, just made to make the reader feel good. No site is a manosphere site without rejecting these, since embracing them leads you astray right from the start. Likewise, sites that somewhat cater to men but that avoid addressing these lies, that shy away from them, aren’t manosphere sites. I am thinking of Men’s Health and Art of Manliness.

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  12. on June 15, 2014 at 11:34 am Cuckinglinguist

    Awesome idea – Keyboard gamers – use this opportunity to break the barrier, employ your skills and come back with a story. There’s no such thing as losing, only learning!

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  13. on June 15, 2014 at 11:47 am PA

    “Post-Approach Week, CH will dedicate a day to you readers when you may share your experiences in the comments of an open post.”

    I approve of the entire project. Theory is nothing without practice.

    On the field report open threads– those of us with wives or girlfriends or both, can post LTR management story. Or tell us about a red pill conversation you had with your son. Or how you pointed to two hot girleens and told your teenage son that you’ll give him $100 cash if he chats them up.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 12:00 pm thwack

      Or how you pointed to two hot girleens and told your teenage son that you’ll give him $100 cash if he chats them up
      ———————————————————————–

      WTF?

      See folks, THIS is the kind of money white people have.

      I say don’t give him no cash, give him guts.

      “It looks like you doin real good for yourself Balboa…”

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 12:05 pm PA

      I understand thwack. The whole idea of fathers confuses you.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm gunslingergregi

      i’d like to see more of the convos with son type i’ll be doing them soon

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 2:40 pm gunslingergregi

      well pa looks like you making it or some years now with the kids gj
      happy fathers day

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 2:42 pm PA

      Thanks. And congratulations.

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 2:56 pm gunslingergregi

        talkin bout my son in indo not sure if popped one here yet he he he
        so I guess a non-blood fathers day for me guess i’ll take it though
        was pretty cool for me being a dad for year and half
        never spanked the little dude
        but thinking I may beat him for the hell of it so he knows what it feels like and not have fear of it like when I broke my parents of spanking me in 4th grade gonna make it family tradition maybe when he gets a little older
        but i’ll tell him why and get his permission
        he he he

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 5:01 pm gunslingergregi

        wife said he looks like me must of gotten him plastic surgery
        my wife would do some shit like that though lol

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  14. on June 15, 2014 at 11:51 am thwack

    CH,

    I suggest you do it without coordinating with other sites; besides, you could have a mini vacation for yourself.

    I say do it for 3 days. And for those of you with wives/girlfriends you can help some other guy get his game up to speed.

    Greg Eliot should sponsor a collowqueeus because the world would be a better place if more people were “suffering” multiple violent and spectacular orgasms.

    Plus I could finally get that swingset I got my eye on.

    ABF

    (always be fucking)

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 4:34 am K

      I agree with this … CH should have a short vacation, he’s always worrying about his readers, trying to help everyone … I think he needs more free time for himself, at least one week.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm Greg Eliot

      What the f$#k is a “collowqueeus”?

      (((scratchin’ mah haid)))

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  15. on June 15, 2014 at 12:02 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

    If this old fuck can do it, so can you! Check out the way that girl checks him out at 1:43.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 12:03 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Wrong video. Here’s the right one.

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  16. on June 15, 2014 at 12:15 pm immoralgables

    90% of manosphere commenters just shit the bed

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 1:43 pm driveallnight

      A whole week. Where’s Zombie Shane gonna score that much propofol?

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 2:16 pm Greg Eliot

      Only because it’s Father’s Day and most of you South Parkers don’t know where to send the card.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 3:46 pm Cuckinglinguist

      90% of men In general shit the bed

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 4:21 pm PimpinBlueStar

      haha true!

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  17. on June 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm Approach Week | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  18. on June 15, 2014 at 2:25 pm Will

    Approaching a hot girl is definitely not a problem for me.

    More concerning things out there in the sexual market in my opinion.

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  19. on June 15, 2014 at 2:38 pm gunslingergregi

    yea shit my parents just got divorced and it fucked me up my dad across street ain’t home yet
    can’t imagine what it would be like not knowing who your dad is

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  20. on June 15, 2014 at 4:20 pm PimpinBlueStar

    Some random thoughts for the guys who are going to get off their ass and take action:

    -Always remember that the big picture is what matters…any “failure”, rejection etc. makes your life 0.01% better, as will any successes that you get.

    -Distill the lessons of your experiences, and let them go. Replaying “woulda shoulda coulda” thoughts in your head are a waste. Anything that happened even one minute ago does not matter. Let it roll off, you have a job to do.

    -Ultimately, this is a journey of YOU and your emotional independence. “I run my emotions, my emotions DON’T run me.”

    -If you set a hard goal, you will get there. “This is what I want, this is what I’m going to do.” Accept yourself as the type of person who accomplishes what he sets out to do, and you aren’t going to take the lazy route of just being given something by society.

    -Whatever you’ve been led to believe about the types of women you can get or the amount of money you can earn in your life….is bullshit. All of it. The sky is the limit, as long as you believe it. Don’t listen to crap advice about what you are limited to in life (I’m looking at you, Tucker Max, and your shitty fucking website). Don’t get fixiated on one girl (lol remember, she has to choose you, and it’s the qualities you are learning along the way that girls are consistently attracted to) or one opportunity.

    -“Attraction is not a choice.” You are learning to replace the habits that don’t work with the ones that do, and it takes time and application. The sooner, the better. This is what happens when you see guys who are literally doing very little (like pick up instructors) who women swoon over…they are embodying these traits.

    And this last one is a little visual that I do, even now, with almost every bit of growth that I gain with a new task, new knowledge, etc. It seems kinda new-agey, even to me lol but bear with me. It’s the same process that I use with ANYTHING I set out to do…I grow and change for the better, and leave the old behind:

    I decide that I am going to be X and leave Y behind. I envision a creek, in the woods. I see the new type of person I want to be (excellent with women, successful stock trader, etc.), and that is the other side of the creek. I jump the creek, and I leave the “old me” behind. I have no attachment to the other side of the creek I just left…I wave it goodbye. Now I’ve got my work to do, my new trails to cut. This is the better life, the reward, the one that almost no one chooses, because it’s challenging (but VERY doable). I’m not going to bitch out like 90% do every day of their lives by doing nothing to advance themselves, I’m going all the way. I will be contrarian to them in almost every way. I’m already a winner, and I’m going to learn the skills to get the results I want in this specific area.

    I will NOT go back to the other side of the creek.

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 4:36 pm gunslingergregi

      I miss stock trading i’ll tell ya that but I did do it
      my chick like wtf when the shit was printed out to do my taxes
      a bible sized pile he he he

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 4:49 pm gunslingergregi

      This is what happens when you see guys who are literally doing very little””””””””

      it might look like very little but I had to fuck the living shit out my bitch to get her where she at lol
      same with the wife

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      • on June 15, 2014 at 5:06 pm gunslingergregi

        mentally and physically

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 4:51 pm gunslingergregi

      lol remember, she has to choose you””’

      had longer post but ahh
      yea I agree
      she has to decide she is your ride or die bitch
      you can help with that process but in the end the only thing keeping her in line is her
      always be dude willing to hit it more than likely

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 5:00 pm immoralgables

      Fuckin awesome, thanks PBS

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:40 am Hunter

      Thank you bro

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  21. on June 15, 2014 at 4:24 pm gunslingergregi

    holy shit if you want an idea of amount of cologne to put on my chick just doused me with the shit when I let her do it wtf lol

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  22. on June 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm Imperial Leather

    Master & Commander

    Capt. Jack Aubrey:I had no idea that a study of nature could advance the art of naval warfare.

    Dr. Stephen Maturin: Oh, I see.

    Capt. Jack Aubrey:Now to pull this predator in close and spring our trap.

    Dr. Stephen Maturin: Jack?

    Capt. Jack Aubrey: Yes.

    Dr. Stephen Maturin: You’re the predator. (Remember who the Alpha male IS!)

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  23. on June 15, 2014 at 5:50 pm dcl

    This is a great idea.

    My suggestion, to get men in the mood before they do an approach, is to go about your normal day – grocery store, bank, gym, pub, etc. – and interact with the employees.

    It will get you into a talkative mood and that can help with any stress or anxiety you might have regarding the approach.

    My blog is not the most popular one in the manosphere but I do get regular reads from manosphere.com

    The blog does not have many comments, but I am more than willing to participate.

    Perhaps we will have some interesting field reports, good and bad.

    Here is my blog http://dcllive.wordpress.com/

    Cheers. -dcl

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  24. on June 15, 2014 at 6:01 pm Rum

    Always be closing.
    Karley Sciortina is basically extremely smart.
    Barox Obbama is a mohammedean rent-boi.

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  25. on June 15, 2014 at 6:29 pm walawala

    I now approach or game every time I go out or meet some girl in a random way.

    I just hosted a big musical event that was hugely successful. There was one small game-related problem which i’ll post about later.

    But there was a young 26 year old actress who I had gamed before but has a herb bf who she didn’t bring out to my event. I had gamed her before but never escalated.

    Then over the weekend I gave her a birthday performance–the musicians played a song for her and several others. I danced with her during one of the performances and there were some cool photos taken. I escalated the game through teasing, kino invited her for drinks with my musicians and she stayed to clean up. Then agreed to come out the next night.

    Here’s where it got tricky. I got TONS of IOI’s and she had a few drinks. Just as she was leaving I came over, we were alone and I thanked her for helping out. We looked into each others’ eyes and I kissed her on both cheeks and brushed her cheek with my thumb. She stared with those big doggie dinner bowl eyes. I didn’t k-close. I was in that position where with the bf and not quite sure if this would be seen as creepy I thought i’d wait.

    She came out the next night to a farewell dinner—the only person not really connected to anyone else there except me. She sat beside me and I gamed her again–teasing, then building comfort and rapport.

    I will see her again. I’m getting IOI’s but my hesitation in escalating is from the idea that because she’s in my social circle and knows people I do—and with a bf hanging around somewhere—is she just being friendly or are these IOI’s real? I didn’t number close her but do chat on FB. The other thing is she was among the first to buy tickets to my event after I asked her.

    Another funny thing—my ex ex gf who is now a very good friend of mine was there—was trying to cock block me. She kept shit-testing and I kept blowing her off. It actually increased my value.

    Before guys jump in with the “just k-close” bear in mind that going too aggressive if she has a bf could be misconstrued. I have known her for a while and not sure whether she sees this simply as hanging out…or whether all the IOI’s: giggling, hanging around, dancing, doggie dinner bowl eyes, brushing hair…appearing ready for a kiss and liking photos of us on FB…were all classic. She is genuinely a cool chick and not an attention whoring bitch.

    I’m now in this odd position where if this was someone who I didn’t know or didn’t know had a bf…I would have escalated to a k-close.

    Does constantly gaming but not escalating increase the attraction?

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 8:00 am having a bad day

      @wala

      ALL IOIs are real…girls won’t put themselves into a position for stuff to ‘just happen’ if they aren’t interested…that’s why ‘assume the sale’ works so well…and why your ‘not assuming the sale’ is confusing you…lol…don’t over think it…it really is that easy…lol…

      also, look at the ‘macro IOIs’…she supposedly has a bf, but she didn’t bring him to this event…why not?…she signed up as soon as you asked her…she stayed to ‘clean up’…so she was there more for you than the event…she came out to a dinner ‘with you’…how many more IOIs do you need?….lol…

      “Before guys jump in with the “just k-close” bear in mind that going too aggressive if she has a bf could be misconstrued.”

      misconstrued by whom?…not her…if she let you get close enough to kiss her, that’s what she wants to happen. girls are very good about maintaining personal space to ‘manage’ interactions…

      “Another funny thing—my ex ex gf who is now a very good friend of mine was there—was trying to cock block me. ”

      so, even she was picking up on the IOIs…lol…the only question is…’do you want to…’ and you might not…and that’s ok…you really don’t have to bang everything in a skirt that’s available…lol…just don’t over think it…bc she’s not…

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 8:07 am having a bad day

      @wala

      forgot one…

      “Does constantly gaming but not escalating increase the attraction?”

      no…not for the girls that don’t get ‘escalated’… at some point it will just seem like you’re gay…or socially retarded…lol…bc the ‘purpose’ of game is to close to a sexual ‘finish’. so, if you are ‘gaming her’ why are you not closing?…

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  26. on June 15, 2014 at 6:49 pm gunslingergregi

    irish trash can half gallon gone so far neighborhood people speaking in tongues
    lol
    oher commentate

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    • on June 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm gunslingergregi

      gallon and half to go
      mua mua hahhahhhahahaahhaaa

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:20 am gunslingergregi

        I got beyond drunk hit a new category was close to having my chick call 911
        pretty sure had alchohol poisoning of some sort
        yea umm don’t want to get that drunk again
        couldn’t open my pants to pull my dick out to piss lol
        my chick did it
        puked about 17 times my babykins there wiping my mouth with a tissue rubbing my back and head and cleaning the toilet rim as I went
        she got some points yesterday for sure being there at my weakest
        took me outside to get fresh air
        I still almost won in pool
        then my girl goes says she never played but then starts making a couple crazy fucking shots playing against the dude who beat me
        misses a bunch too though lol
        but yea get home feels like i’m gonna die lol shit spinning so much didn’t want to lay down
        she checking my eyes says my pupils dialated or some shit says this morn I might of thought I was gonna die but she knew I was gonna be ok and why she checked my eyes
        was sitting in chair
        she takes rest of my clothes off and wipes me down with cold water on a rag
        now that helped about hour of that and two buckets water I finally was able to lay down finally sleep

        much more fun to see other people that drunk and clown them lol
        people laughing at my drunkin state i’m like if your not as drunk as me you are doing it wrong everybody laughing
        whatever it takes to entertain the masses he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:31 am gunslingergregi

        at some point no pool no card drinking games I was just sitting there beside my girl on comfy corner of couch where it pulls over to table and I was gone lol
        still saw people kept looking at me laughing I was toast I had to laugh too
        my girl said she saw me getting and kept herself in check
        normally I got her back on the she drunk thing
        she had my back this time
        what it is all about to me and always my goal to get to
        its about being a team

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:38 am gunslingergregi

        told my chick this morning I love my life
        she said I love the life you allow me to have
        aww
        I tell her she is so freaking soft I love just touchin her
        she says i’m soft just for you
        like she always does he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:56 am gunslingergregi

        it has been some serious rough points since leaving Iraq when I got fucked up
        I lost my mission in life
        I lost what I was good at
        couldn’t do my mission
        so close to suicide since leaving Iraq
        its been nice having these woman around here that stepped up to the plate and helped me
        and the counseling and doctor have helped a lot too
        and this site helped keep my on planet too
        shout out to the cuddly wife who told me not to do it
        and shout out to my babykins who wouldn’t let me either

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:22 am gunslingergregi

        yup there it is on my drunk as fuck pick on my phone someone sent me
        there my hot ass woman with her hand on the inside of my knee
        that is when ya know ya got em is when in every pic they got there hands on you
        and god dam i’m a big boy lol
        i’m fat hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahah

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:26 am gunslingergregi

        she got caught with hand in the cookie jar gonna have to mess with her now
        well after she wakes up time to sleep for me

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:56 am gunslingergregi

        lol im laughing my ass off quietly
        seriously wtf hahahahhhaahahahahahhahahaha
        people just must be like wtf when they see us together and she all on my nuts
        if I saw us i’d be like how the fuck does he do it
        my face smexy though I think
        plus ya know i’m the best dude a chick could get on the face of the earth
        this chick had brad pit and chose me
        her dude taller than brad pit just looked it up
        got the 6 pack all that shit bigger dick than me
        although if ya asked her now she would say my dick the biggest dick on planet earth and might not know she lying
        I got mad game I guess and my confidence higher
        sometimes it is a good thing life is ironic

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  27. on June 15, 2014 at 7:08 pm PA

    Funny just because: a friend and I were at a craft brew pub, at one point doing a little people watching. A scrawny, poofy-haired dude walks in, and I say to my friend “that’s a fucking wild looking hipster.” My friend says “nah, I don’t think he’s a hipster. I think he’s just a dork.”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:56 am Tilikum

      nah man, i said you were a poofster. you never listen PA

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:04 am PA

      You are still hurt over something I must have said to you.

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  28. on June 15, 2014 at 9:57 pm theasdgamer

    Being committed to keeping my marriage vows, I’m not gonna play your game. Instead, I will play a different one which is similar. I will ask women to dance whom I haven’t danced with previously. I’m sure I can easily hit five in a week. Bear in mind that my requests to dance are refused frequently by women out on a date. Younger, hotter women not on a date are more likely to accept than older, wrinkled women on a date. I’ll aim to ask as many women on dates as women not on dates. Rejection builds character.

    When women who are on dates with other men are willing to dance with me, then I’m the exotic, interesting man. If I’m a better dancer than they are, then they are deferential to me and excited to dance with me, even if they are hotties. A couple of them that I know are submissive to me but dominant towards their beta S.O.s.

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  29. on June 15, 2014 at 10:31 pm corvinus

    From CH’s twitter: “Friendzoned so hard it must hurt.”
    http://9gag.com/gag/a1A67Z2?ref=t

    If you never see her burning angry gaze, you’re doing it wrong.

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  30. on June 16, 2014 at 12:13 am Will

    Something that doesn’t make sense to me is this:

    If a girl is has 3 guys (equal value) expressing interest in her she will be most attracted to the on who shows least interest. Simple. Game theory.

    But then if you “lead” a girl into being a healthy LTR that will be showing more interest in her than the other guys. So on a primal subconscious level she will be attracted to the other guys more than her actual boyfriend?

    This doesn’t make sense…

    So basically don’t lead her into an LTR. And make her just keep coming back to you to follow you.

    But girls can override that subconscious attraction to the other guys who care less via front lobe brain and her girlfriends etc…

    So then she’ll fuck the other guys who are investing more and showing more interest because she can override this subconscious primal urge to something that “”seems”” right (frontal lobe and girlfriends reasoning).

    It’s like a lose lose. I don’t get it…

    There needs to be in depth analysis on this by experts here (CH)

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:00 am Zombie Shane

      > “It’s like a lose lose. I don’t get it…”

      I guess you better hope that NAWALT.

      That there are still some nice girls, from good families, with Alpha fathers who worked [and work, and will continue to work, until the day that they die] tirelessly to teach [and to reinforce and to remind] their little girls about the difference between right and wrong.

      That there are still some chicks out there whose hearts are not completely consumed by The Darkness.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:35 am Tilikum

        “That there are still some chicks out there whose hearts are not completely consumed by The Darkness.”

        this is Shane’s fantasy.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:17 pm Zombie Shane

        Damn straight it’s my fantasy.

        Once all of our bitchez go completely EVIL, what the fuck purpose is left in our lives?

        SRSLY.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:47 am Gro Haila

      GBFM exhortations not to make The Game a tool for churchianz-flavoured pedestalization of pussy seems appropriate part of a reply.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:07 am Kate

      At a certain point of letting her chase you, demand to know what what she wants with you. She’ll undoubtedly try to deny she wants anything. Let her know you don’t mess around and impose exclusivity. Win/win. Game was always about subverting expectation. Because relationships are no longer expected, monogamy is the new game. I call it the New Monogamy 😉

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:35 am Tilikum

        oh god no. this is why girls suck at relationship advice. Kate is giving you her fantasy.

        a woman follows or she doesn’t.

        think john wayne was asking for a pansy ass “relationship?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 3:27 pm gunslingergregi

        well look at the girlgame blog they all got married right or turns out were married
        or with someone like woman almost always are

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:19 am cocksure

        “demand to know what what she wants with you.”

        do not do this. ever. do not talk about the future and never say the word relationship. your future exists independent of her.

        “Let her know you don’t mess around and impose exclusivity. ”

        do not do this either. never let her think she’s the only one. spin the plates always.

        “Game was always about subverting expectation.”

        wrong. see archives.

        “Because relationships are no longer expected, monogamy is the new game”

        wrong.

        “kate” is a perfect example of why you never listen to what a woman says about anything.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:20 am Amy

      Will, I think you have the wrong mindset with the LTR. You aren’t leading her into it. You’re ALLOWING her to have it. You’re giving up other girls for her. It’s a big deal. That’s what your mindset should be. Monogamy/LTR is something SHE wants from you, and if you give it to her, it’s because it’s a gift you decided to give because she earned it. A gift you could take back at any time.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:54 am Tilikum

        you have redeemed yourself with this post…if only a small bit.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 1:59 pm Will

        I just think the last girl (8.5 blonde in college) that I saw threw me off.

        How do you fuck a guy on off for like 10 months and then have a radio silence with no closure for 1+ month? Haha I literally lol b/c I have no idea what’s going on…

        She’s not “chasing me” b/c I’m the one hitting her up or hanging out….

        So it feels like a lose lose for me

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:32 pm Will

        And right @Amy. I get that, but what confused me is that I did the initiating 75% of the time with everything–texts, hangouts etc. She would drop what she was doing or find an alternate day and hangout with me and we’d have sex then she’d usually sleep over. But it was always radio silence then–b/c I didn’t want to fall into this long drawn out texting conversations frame.

        But then it’s like if I go radio silence and she doesn’t initiate even after a suuuuuper long time like say a month and a half. WTF am I supposed to think?

        It’s like why do you let me fuck you 3 times in one night and then radio silence.

        Either she’s reallllllly trying to just slow her way out of the relationship and find an INDIRECT COVERT exit.

        Or she just thinks of it as Alpha Widow.

        I know that I am high value in her mind is the thing. I know this. And even if I wasn’t this girl is veryyy high smv and isn’t a grade 5 slut so she doesn’t just give up sex to anyone like she’s been doing for so long.

        I would like to say that she isn’t initiating b/c she doesn’t see me as having high enough value. BUT WTF if a girl isn’t hot enough to fuck then I generally stay away from her and don’t fuck her….

        So that makes me think otherwise. But I also think it’s also been too long for her to say “I don’t want to come off as needy or annoying–and he doesn’t like texting so hell text me when he feels like it”….

        Could this be the case.

        Looking back I should’ve just logically seen the situation and cut it off. OR if I wanted an LTR then get one. Just should’ve shown what I wanted quicker or at some point when she brought the topic up….

        We haven’t said one word since I took her to the nice seats at the hockey games. WHICH she promptly dropped shit and drove over to do.

        Thoughts @amy?

        I also don’t think this girl has ever had a very serious boyfriend and she goes to church and stuff sometimes.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:40 am Amy

        @Will I think I said before, she isn’t attached to you. Yea it’s unusual in this situation so the reasons likely are either (1) she’s seeing someone else too and/or (2) she senses neediness from you. Either of those will kill feelings of attachment. So she may have some interest, which is why she comes over when you contact her, but it’s low interest.

        I don’t think she’s freezing you out to protect herself, because she never really put herself out there for you to “reject” thru overgaming. If she was into you she would be initiating. She would be trying to spend more time w you.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:14 am having a bad day

        @will

        this might seem like a silly question but does she actually know that you want her to contact you? have you told her how you expect her to interact with you? maybe she just thinks she is ‘giving you space’…so she thinks it’s a feature not a bug…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:11 pm Will

        No she has absolutely no idea I want her to contact me. (I’ve done the opposite because I’ve wanted to show the opposite of neediness)

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 10:53 am Tilikum

      i want to help you but don’t know where to start. part of me feels like you are over-thinking, but the other part of me likes the questions you ask.

      i really suggest you take a month and just observe, sniper style. take a paper towel roll with you if you must, and just look through it. slow your breathing and focus on extracting as much info as you can from the woman, (and men) that you observe through that limited field of view.

      look at everything, but only attempt to extrapolate a worldview, not predict future behavior. again, you are focusing on WHY you are seeing something but not having a complete view of WHAT you are seeing. your all fucking backwards. not your fault btw, its our shared cultural illness.

      try it for a month and go back to your “regular” thinking. be surprised.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:12 pm Kate

      The person I was responding to *wants* to be in a relationship. He just wants to handle it correctly so that she is the one wanting it more than him and continues to respect him over the other men she was dating once they’re in the relationship. For that to be the case, she has to be the chaser and he has to be the one making it clear he could be choosing something else. He isn’t asking advice about spinning plates into perpetuity- only until she gets tired of the game. Some people are looking for help getting off the carousel. What’s your advice, conductor?

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  31. on June 16, 2014 at 2:46 am dobedo

    which manosphere blogs? List please.

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  32. on June 16, 2014 at 3:00 am Approach Week | Truth and contradictions | Sco...

    […] Reader Jeremy suggests a way to get the game blog reader addicts off their asses to bust a move. CH, I have a suggestion. It would take the cooperation of other major manosphere sites. If you want to kick the keyboard jockeys out of their habits.  […]

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  33. on June 16, 2014 at 3:03 am DoucheBag DeLuxe

    Moment of alpha:

    Guy is acting all chill and cool, laid back. He is barely moving his head and neck. She is leaning in. Celebrity Ralf Moeller, 55, with his young model GF.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 4:51 am Zombie Shane

      Hate to have to say this, but the chimpanzee in the background kinda ruins the picture.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:12 am thwack

        In a photo of a blond girl kissing you focus on the black guy?

        What is the matter with you?

        Im starting to think you might be a troll, or some type of faggot?

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  34. on June 16, 2014 at 4:20 am Body and Brains

    This blog is indeed very interesting, whether you like the content or not. I think we all can agree with that contention.

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  35. on June 16, 2014 at 10:08 am gunslingergregi

    Moving from farmer to forager mating/prosperity to poverty/monogamy to polygyny/beta bux to alpha fux. overcomingbias.com/2014/06/forage… 38 minutes ago ””””””””’

    interesting that the husband of my chick only one she married and had to be sacrificed to my ego oh well

    at first I was thinking pretty cool to see the quasi intelligent comments but then I realized it was just in a small framework of limited terms
    and using white trash as a symbol how profound like they would know what that was or if it was possible to have
    so far I have not found any white trash men
    i’ll keep looking
    interesting topic though

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  36. on June 16, 2014 at 10:16 am gunslingergregi

    farmer to forager thing kind of fascinating they use white trash
    or ghetto
    never met a white trash dude yet i’ll keep looking
    with their intelligence do they not realize that all humans want the extras they can get so they all got to work for those extras in one way or another

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  37. on June 16, 2014 at 10:52 am theasdgamer

    CH, what do you think of I’ll-introduce-you-to-my-wife Game?

    Game objectives: 1) Keep marriage vows. 2) Instill comfort in a married woman dancing buddy (MWDB) so that she will feel comfortable with me alone and also when flirting with her on the dance floor.

    Background: MWDB is part of my social circle, goes to the dance bar solo, dances with me a lot, asks me to dance, and chats me up for half an hour, but won’t let me walk her to her car. She’ll even sway her hip into mine on the dance floor. There’s obviously chemistry between us. I want to keep the chemistry (additional option and enhances my enjoyment of dancing), but not escalate.

    Field report:

    Night 1: Took wife to my dance bar and told MWDB that I had brought my wife and volunteered to introduce them. They met. Hello, NTMY, Bye, no chat.

    Night 2: Took wife to a dance studio and saw MWDB as we were leaving. Wife and MWDB chatted briefly.

    Night 3: Went solo to dance bar, where I danced with MWDB once, flirting with her as part of the dance. I didn’t chat her up or dance with her again until I was about to leave. I saw her and asked her to dance. Then she asked me to dance immediately after the 1st dance. Then she asked me to dance immediately after the 2nd dance. Then we left the bar at the same time. (Our social circle probably noted all our sequential dancing and us leaving at the same time.) We were parked across the street from one another and walked to our cars, chatting, until we had to separate. MWDB mentioned that she wouldn’t be at the bar the next week. Maybe she felt a little bonded from the 3 dances at the end and was thinking of the next time that we could dance together.

    Game objectives achieved.

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  38. on June 16, 2014 at 11:24 am cryo

    went to the mall over the weekend and did some approaches

    got some encouraging looks, talked to 3 girls and they weren’t digging it

    pretty demoralizing day all in all, I just felt slightly embarrassed by the end

    still in a lot of pain and funk from the end of my relationshit so maybe it’s transparent

    anyway, do we post our results in this thread or will there be another

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:21 pm theasdgamer

      3 cold approaches in Day Game? Well done!

      Remember to take things slower in Day Game. Build more comfort before sexualizing than in clubs and start by sexualizing indirectly. If target is a shy girl, take that into account by building more comfort.

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  39. on June 16, 2014 at 11:36 am Dragases

    I haven’t posted here in 2 months because I’ve been dating a young woman (9 yrs younger than myself) for 2 months.

    She is great, sweet and beautiful. She often visits and makes me dinner and her shit tests consist of mostly soft lob balls.

    I dropped all of my other side girlfriends 6 weeks ago based on my gut instinct that she has a good head on her shoulders. She is a Christian conservative woman who has dropped more than one hint that she is family oriented.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 1:38 pm thwack

      any faded mud stains on her skirt?

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  40. on June 16, 2014 at 1:06 pm Reco

    Update and Advice Needed

    So the plates are spinning and there are some successes also.
    My 30YO Indian is going good meeting up tomorrow. She is really into me. So gaming her so far is really working well. She is always complementing me sending me dirty pics and very responsive.

    I met a 37YO MILF last week and we talked and bantered online and then met last Thursday. I wanted to get more investment from her so I had her meet me for lunch but in my city which is about a 2 hour drive from her house. She agreed no problem. Told her to wear heals and a skirt and she did. Looked pretty good in person I give her about a 7. She was kind of full of herself but I got her talking and expressing herself and it worked well. She was giving me quite a bit of IOI and emotional investment also. We went from lunch to a bar close by and had cocktails. At this point I started making out with her and it got all heated really quickly. Tried to get her to move to hotel and she almost agreed but then changed her mind. At least she was not giving me the princess bullshit like the other one. She has a nice body and is very sexual. We then moved to another bar and had another drink and made out some more. By this time it was getting really heated. But then she had to go. It was a really good interaction. Question I guess I am escalating too quickly with these women because I am getting a lot of ASD what should I do about this? And I do not believe this one has the princess complex. We agreed to meeting this Monday and spend extended time together. Then we have been bantering via text since Thursday with her initiating most texts and I have been keeping it non sexual via lessons learned from yareally on ASD. However she flaked on me today not at the last minute here is her text “I am going to have to ask for a raincheck for tonight handsome”. I have not responded yet. I am going to respond with “lol no problem we can get together some other time” I predict this is ASD and I will give her a couple of days of radio silence and then start convo back up again. Then when I am in town next week I will contact her about meeting up. What do you guys think of this strategy? I think I may have given her too much attention also.

    I met this 26YO Hottie. She is really gorgeous, her profile was different and talked all about how sweet and sincere she is. I have to give this chick a 9 so far. But she has been really non responsive so far. Her reply to my note online was to send me just her email address and nothing else. Then when I emailed her a basic note. She did not say anything except replied back asking for pics. Then I sent her back a note saying “I will be happy to send you some pics and you can send me some but lets get to know one another first.” She then responed back with her phone number I texted her and she replied back with one word answers and did not really give me anything. Then she quit replying and so I quit. This morning I reengaged and she asked for pics. I sent them tried to banter again and nothing but she did say I was very handsome. But that was about the extent of her responsiveness. I asked for pics and she sent me some beautiful pics. She is really gorgeous and I can see that she is very used to guys kissing her ass. Not sure what to do with this? How do I get her to engage? Do I just ignore her now? It has been about four hours. My plan is that she is probably a lost cause that is so narcissistic that I will not be able to work with her so I am planning on instructing her on how to communicate with me. Is this correct? I know women need direction and limits and just agreeing with her and complementing her pics is not going to get me anywhere. But I really do not have any investment from her so it has a low chance of working. What do you guys think? Is there another approach I should take? By the way she just now favorite listed me on the web site. But has not reengaged in texting?

    Also do you remember the 25YO Fling I had that emailed me back and we texted back and forth a couple of times she sent me some pics and then it kind of died there? I give her about a 7.5. Well she sent me an email today. Here is what it said. “Hope you had a fabulous Father’s Day weekend. Haven’t talked with you in a while and thought I would stop in and say hey. Hope things are well with you. Have an awesome week !!!”Not really sure what to do about this one. She only knows me as my beta self about six months ago and we fucked for a little while and then she vanished. How do I handle this one? Should I ignore her, wait to reply? Help me out brothers.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 2:39 pm Reco

      Update to update.

      30YO Indian girl we are scheduled to meet tomorrow. And she just texted me asking me to borrow some money. Really took me by surprise. This chick has been really cool and not asked for anything. I can easily loan her the money. But do not want to fuck up our situ. I am not really worried about her not paying me back. I am thinking of talking to her and saying just this once but never again. Or just loaning the money and not being a dick about it. What do you guys think?

      37 YO MILF, I sent her the text string below and her reply:

      Me: Lol sure…maybe some other time 3:17 PM
      Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- 😦 want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

      I think she is full of shit. I have not replied since then. Stay silent? Reschedule right away? Thinking maybe wait two days and then reschedule.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:49 pm A Random Guy

        Honestly, I don’t get this. You guys all seem to just *know* a chick is shit-testing/flaking. Do you have some actual reason to believe this?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 2:54 pm Amy

        Nooooooo do not lend her money! Yikes.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 3:53 pm Reco

        I do not know for sure that she is shit testing or flaking. But I do know this for sure in my life which is much busier and more demanding I almost never flake. You tell me. And if she is legitimate about her excuse as yareally said she is still looking at your reaction.

        How would you react?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:04 pm walawala

        @Reco “borrow money” ?? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…

        My crazy ex gf once out of the blue texted to say her mom had injured her hand and her mom wanted to move into my ex gf’s apartment “for the summer”. Seems the mom’s place didn’t have air conditioning.

        My ex asked whether it would be ok to live with me “for the summer”….

        I texted back something like “I work. A few days is ok but not full time”.

        Then I asked a series of questions: why? —mom’s place doesn’t have air con. Me: Buy a fan… Her: No she has air con but the place is too messy to close windows Me: Hire a maid to clean the place Her: No, my mom doesn’t like having strangers in the house. etc etc

        This was a game of “Why don’t you .. yes but….”

        I then sent her the link to airbnb.

        This was her cue to then act out in a childish way and break up with me—two days before my birthday.

        I later read that manipulative girls will use this type of ploy to gain sympathy and then achieve some initial goal.

        She was furious I hadn’t helped her—even though I did offer some part-time arrangement.

        The other interesting thing….this request came just 3 days after a very good friend of hers had announced she would be getting married. I wondered if given my ex gf’s Cluster B behaviours…this was all a ploy for attention.

        Now when girls ask for these type of favours—money, temporary place to stay …I push back.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:17 pm cryo

        When in doubt, just don’t respond. Remember, attention is your greatest currency. Without attention women shrivel into dust. This one is 37, she ain’t going anywhere.

        As far as the Bindi broad who wants your money…just no.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:21 pm YaReally

        @reco
        “I can easily loan her the money.”

        No. Don’t. She’s setting you up for a long-term trap. I would actually stop seeing her entirely…Native chicks who are that aggressive tend to be trouble. Like poke holes in the condoms trouble. The money is just a start. Google how foreign bride scams work…only diff is she’s actually putting out, but she’s running the same script of dazzle you with her sexuality (even putting out) and then start digging for gold one little “crisis” at a time.

        Chick is trouble, be very careful with her. Don’t ever tell her anything about you that she could use to blackmail you.

        “Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- 😦 want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

        I think she is full of shit.”

        She’s not. What are the 3 ways of flaking? Total no-show with no txt (“I fell asleep sorry lol” style…this is the worst one, it means she’s not into you), in advance with no offer to reschedule (means you have some work to do), or in advance with an offer to reschedule (this means her excuse is legit, no punishment necessary).

        She’s offering to reschedule. Tell her “ya, let’s do thursday” or whatever works for you. Should be a done deal.

        too tired to write more right now but with the other girls you might not be getting them to chase you enough when you go for the pull…more rapport & push/pull, and more qualifying them (giving them easy qualifications to pass to impress you so they feel you like them for more than their tits) so that they’re as excited to go back to your place as you are VS you having to fully lead/trick them there.

        They should be thinking “I’ve earned this guy”, you know? Right now they’re thinking “I don’t know about this…….why does he even like me?”

        If you don’t think that’s the case then the other option is to back off harder when they don’t play along. ie – you make out and push for going back to your place, she hesitates, instead of plowing for it try backing off and going back to normal conversation do some rapport push/pull qualify her, remove your kino, have a drink or hit another venue, etc., then try again in 15-30 min.

        So you’re basically teaching her in little mini-lessons 1) you’re calibrated enough to tell when she’s uncomfortable and don’t mind backing off because you’re confident enough that you’ll still bang her so there’s no rush to you, 2) that if she doesn’t play along, you remove some of the sexy fun kino/kissing validation and 3) you’re interested in her for more than just that she has a pussy…like you make out and then she hesitates and you back off and talk about whatever and then ask her if she cooks and you tease her telling her pouring cereal doesn’t count and she tells you no she really loves cooking and you test/qualify her asking her what her fav thing to cook for a guy is, she says whatever, you say mmm that sounds good, next time we hang out you are going to cook that for me…now she thinks you’re hanging out again and she’s won you/earned you bla bla and now you can pull her in and kiss her…a bit more of that and you can try pulling her to bang again.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:22 pm having a bad day

      @reco

      30yo indian – good job…up until you even considered giving her money…lol…

      …”PROVIDING” resources ($$$) is beta provider or alpha fun…?

      so just ignore the request as if it never happened…and continue to do that if/until she brings it up in person…then say…”NO” then change the subject…lol…she’s trying to spin you into a sugar daddy arrangement…she’s just better at it than that other one with the BMW/porshe/whatever…lol…

      soooo…to repeat…lend the money = kill the alpha fun vibe…think of it like a shit test (which it is…lol)…

      37yo milf – when you were trying to get her to the hotel room, did you give her any plausible deniability so that it could ‘just happen’? (“hey, come on up to my room and see this amazing view/painting/have a quick drink, then you have to get out cuz I have a big meeting tomorrow early”…) or was the sexual expectation right out in the open?…lol…bc that was/is a big ASD trigger…lol…even for 37yo milfs…lol…

      now, she’s trying to get some ‘hand’ back in the relationship, so she doesn’t think you just see her as a slut…lol…

      also, you might have been giving off enough ‘beta provider’ cues…rather than straight up alpha fux cues…to make her go ‘i’m not comfortable moving this fast…i’ve never done this before…this is not like me…”…lol…

      good response…

      couple days silence (cause you’re busy at work…don’t go out of your way to accommodate her…) then ping for a meeting when you have time for it (remember, you fit girls into your life, not the other way around…)…again, always just ignore the flake (until you actually have a relationship…lol), just like with a 20 yo…lol…then you can let her know that you won’t put up with flaking…otherwise, it’s just beta reaction…not alpha action…

      26yo hottie – wait her out…she’s testing your reaction to see how thirsty/beta/needy you are for a 9 in your life…lol…notice how she’s ‘drip…drip…dripping…” out the attention to get you to chase her…

      so, you have a choice…chase her like all the rest of the beta guys = beta orbiter at best…or ignore her to interact with all the other 9s in your rotation…lol…which action do you think has the best/only chance of leading to your hotel room?…note – it will take some time and will power…lol…but all your other 9s will keep you happy til she comes around…lol…

      ping her next week…silence til then…and see what she does to get your attention…lol…she probably has an extensive rolodex…lol…

      “But I do know this for sure in my life which is much busier and more demanding I almost never flake.”

      Why not? girls should fit into your life not the other way around…an alpha would flake on that 26yo hottie…lol…that’s how she knows he’s an alpha…bc he does that…he doesn’t see her as anything special, bc she’s not…to him…that’s the attitude of abundance…lol…(and yes, you’re right, it’s not ‘polite’…lol…so what?…lol)

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:02 pm Reco

        OK ok…no money though I do believe she is good for it. I see your point. Its strange though because she seems so normal and non needy and not asking for a thing. I may have to walk away from this chick. She does not seem like the type to bluff. Do you think if I tell her no straight up she will walk? I am supposed to see her tomorrow.

        Also on the 37YO I did not give the plausible deniability we were at the bar it was the afternoon and I hadnt even booked a room yet. So yes it was all in her face. We were both hot and heavy at the time. See your point though. She has already offered an alternative. I will wait for a couple of days and see if she comes around.

        The 26YO hottie I do not have a lot to go on. She does not give me anything so far. I will follow advice to a T and see how it works. I see your point perfectly.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:33 pm theasdgamer

        If I were doing pickup, I’d wait until she changed her fb Profile Pic, then text her three days later with some random short message. I’d wait at least 3 weeks before replying to her latest BS. And I’d find other stuff to occupy my mind.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:38 pm theasdgamer

        With the 37 yo, next time you’re hot and heavy, walk away. Make her chase you.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:47 am Reco

        What did you think of the 25yo fling that emailed me before and then Went silent and is emailing me again? How would you respond to that? Should I wait a few days and then send something back sexual? And text it instead of email?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:23 am having a bad day

        @reco

        “What did you think of the 25yo fling that emailed me before and then Went silent and is emailing me again? How would you respond to that? Should I wait a few days and then send something back sexual? And text it instead of email?”

        …see, you’re instincts are getting better…lol…try it and see what happens…what do you think will happen?…and why do you think she is emailing you now?…

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 11:19 am Reco

        @HABD I think she will respond kind of cool but she will respond. And I think she is contacting me now because she needs attention/sex…and I am an option. We did have some really good sex. Lol I will text her something flirty tomorrow and see how it goes. Any suggestions on a good flirty text or does it matter?

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  41. on June 16, 2014 at 1:23 pm Nicole

    I like the idea of Approach Week. It might also have the side benefit of getting rid of the plague of anti game WN’s who want everyone’s balls in a cage. The pro game ones are bad, but at least they’re trying to be useful.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:16 pm Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh… sexual restraint be like kryptonite to n1663rz.

      LZLZOZLZOZLZLZOZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOL

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 12:55 am Nicole

        Why, as a man, are you so bent on “sexual restraint” as a rule for other men?

        So it works for you. Why do you care so much what other men are doing, so long as they do it with a clear head?

        Nobody has issues with you, as an individual, deciding to keep it “white”. The problem starts when you are willing to go as far as making laws that would legally force others to do the same.

        This would basically make you worse than Jews.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 5:58 am Greg Eliot

        Because, my black cherub, you and your ilk running about with the morals of profligates affects the entire society… and DUH!

        You see, us white folks would like to have nations like Switzerland and Norway (ante darky immigration) rather than Nigeria and the worst parts of Brazil.

        And we’d like places like that for our children and grandchildren too.

        This isn’t rocket science, toots…

        And it’s been explained ad nauseum here over the past year… most recently with a question from thwack along the same lines (“why do you care if we just takin’ out the trash”?).

        You negroes here continue to be both dense and disingenuous… add fat to the mix and that’s no way to go through life, Hattie.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 6:04 am Greg Eliot

        Nobody has issues with you, as an individual, deciding to keep it “white”.

        Apparently you and several others do, which is why I have to continue swatting the flies of your inanities away… if only for the morale of the peanut gallery.

        The problem starts when you are willing to go as far as making laws that would legally force others to do the same.

        Projection much, Madame Marxist? Who said anything about making laws to control YOUR herd of cats?

        The only laws I’m in favor of is creating a new homeland… and that doesn’t really take laws… like every other historical fight for one’s folk, that takes boots on the ground and the barrel of a gun, with the will to use it.

        We’ll see how the future of this “mosaic” turns out… many predict a Balkanesque shit show and future de iure rather than de facto ethnostates.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 6:32 am PA

        “Why, as a man, are you so bent on “sexual restraint” as a rule for other men?”

        Because lack of sexual restraint is a very small step from infant rape (a uniquely African custom) and own-grandmother rape (a recent item in the news, of course involving a young black American male).

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 8:50 am Nicole

        Africans, by and large, are the most sexually moral people on the planet. Even where it isn’t forced, many African women get circumcised consensually. So if you mean African Americans, those who are immoral and dirty, learned it from Europeans.

        To rape one’s relative earns the death penalty either formally or informally in most African countries. Only in America would you allow someone like that to continue breathing more than a day. So if you’re wondering why so many African Americans are so immoral and unrestrained, it is because most Americans in general are immoral and unrestrained, but Africans don’t know how to cover their tracks as well.

        A “white” woman very recently bragged about having sex with her grandson. It didn’t even need to be rape. Hodge Twins did a video about it.

        So…maybe palor of the skin isn’t inducing morality, just that the excuses for their immorality are more palatable to you because it’s the “home team”.

        You are not objective, but you are upset that everyone but you sees that.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 8:53 am Nicole

        PA, there are already laws against child rape. If it is still happening, more laws against intercultural relationships are not going to prevent it. I don’t think laws banning consensual relations between adults have anything to do with infant rape.

        Why would your mind even go there?

        Couple more red pills for this one. Stat.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 9:45 am thwack

        Nicole

        Why, as a man, are you so bent on “sexual restraint” as a rule for other men?
        ——————————————————————————————-

        Yeah white man?

        Why dont you apply this same restraint to making money?

        ” thats our problem today> All the so called negro cares about is money. He’s like the white man now; he’ll blow up his momma for some money, sell out his people for some money…

        This is why we are nowhere today” — Muhammad Ali

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    • on June 18, 2014 at 9:23 am thwack

      African women are conservative; at least the ones in the U.S are. Went to an African Wedding; the females are covered head to toe in bright fabric. You can’t see any skin, but there is no limit on how tight it can be.

      No skin, but all the shape you can handle.

      The dress fabric flairs out above the ankles making a cup shape; its a very sexy look for lack of exposed skin.

      Im sporting mahogany just thinking about it.

      mmmmmm…

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  42. on June 16, 2014 at 9:24 pm H. TROLL

    Game tip:

    Whenever a woman says her friend compliments your intelligence: “the teacher thinks you are a great writer”, “my sister says that you are an ace at differential equations”

    response: “she just thinks I’m good looking”

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  43. on June 16, 2014 at 10:56 pm Hunter

    @YaReally random but thanks for sharing Stefan Molyneux’s YouTube channel. Really shed some light on a lot of things in my own life (child abuse, lack of discipline/time management, positivity, etc.)

    My life is changing for the better. (I’m pretty sure I’ve beaten the positivity challenge by now 🙂

    “Happiness is the result of Discipline.”

    Got an apt with one of my best wings, heading to the beach tomorrow.

    Time to hit up some ladies, guys!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 11:22 pm immoralgables

      Can you share that Stefan Molyneux?

      Btw I went to a HotSeat this wknd, partly because you went and recommended it…..WOW lol

      Went out daygaming today and got my first kiss-close (via daygame) with an HB7 Russian. The momentum had me going so hard today man I ended up numberclosing a two set of Ruski’s (one hb8 and the other hb6).

      Beyond that, how the fuck did you beat that Positivity Challenge? I’ve been listening to Blueprint Decoded during my 30day to-and-fro work and I can only focus on one thing at a time.

      Glad to hear you making it to the other side. I remember a year ago now you were asking for advice…now I’m asking you for advice lol….

      props playa!

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:08 am Hunter

        @Immoralgables

        Sure man!

        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC3L8QaxqEGUiBC252GHy3w

        Goes super in-depth on a lot of topics — vids are like 2 and a half hours long (is intimidating) but really listening to how people were raised really provides answers to a lot of the unanswered questions I had surrounding my own life and why I turned out the way I did.

        “Went out daygaming today and got my first kiss-close (via daygame) with an HB7 Russian. The momentum had me going so hard today man I ended up numberclosing a two set of Ruski’s (one hb8 and the other hb6).”

        Lol dude that is awesome. I feel like you and Scray are so far ahead, and I’m just working on my internals, doing Ya’s missions… oh well, no point in rushing.

        “Btw I went to a HotSeat this wknd, partly because you went and recommended it…..WOW lol”

        Yeah it’s amazing what you can actually DO. That’s why I did a lot of the “carrying the girl” shit, cuz it actually works if you calibrate it lol

        “Beyond that, how the fuck did you beat that Positivity Challenge? I’ve been listening to Blueprint Decoded during my 30day to-and-fro work and I can only focus on one thing at a time.”

        Yeah so, it was hard at first because I was so comfortable being negative/brow-beating myself that just being nice to myself was weird. I restarted almost everyday… but then the feeling got super addicting and just flipping from negativity to positivity is so much more pleasurable… I’m just not bothered by anything anymore for the most part. And if I am bothered, my mind instantly switches from “This sucks” to “okay, how do I solve it? Who can help me solve it? What’s the solution?” And once I have that in my mind, the negativity vanishes.

        Just being positive has really opened up doors. For the first time today, I focused completely on work (minor breaks in between) for like the whole 8 hours… which I’d never done before.

        I’m also completely giving myself to Ya’s missions and doing them on the nights I go out. I sorta feel like i wasted the first year trying (and failing) to fuck hot girls, when my internals were fucked up to begin with. But it was necessary, so I can’t be mad. Built a shitload of indifference, that’s for sure.

        “Glad to hear you making it to the other side. I remember a year ago now you were asking for advice…now I’m asking you for advice lol….”

        LOL I’m still gonna ask for advice. You guys are killing it, big time. I’ve still got my job situation to fix (still in massive college debt) and I just signed a new place, still playing catchup at work (although today was hugely productive and I expect this to continue)… point is, I have a lot farther to go.

        Basically, I have no choice but to work on time management, my job, and girls, or I’m fucked.

        Anyway, I hope that helps!

        “props playa!”

        Thanks bro 😀

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 6:08 am Reco

        What’s a Hotseat?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:47 am Hunter

        @reco A Hotseat is just what RSD terms a multi-day seminar of hours of infield footage and breakdowns of interactions, day and night game.

        It generally follows this format:

        It’s probably the best value product from RSD. Not very useful if you don’t actually go out (for the lurkers reading this).

        Honestly, I’d say it only helps in the short term. If you watch it and do nothing, you’re going to instantly forget everything. There are HotSeat notes on the interwebs anyway so I mean, it depends on how curious you are to see how it looks to be really good at pickup.

        Hope this clears things up.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:27 pm gunslingergregi

        trivia question
        who came up with carrying your bitch around first and picking her up literally

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 2:33 pm Hunter

        @Immoral I do not recommend listening to Stefan Molyneux for PUA advice lol. Dude has no idea what he’s talking about…

        “Pickup is a great way of banging idiots.”

        … *facepalm*

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  44. on June 17, 2014 at 2:27 pm newlyaloof

    P.S. This should also be approach week for married dudes too.
    1.Approach your wife from behind and Sex God Method her.
    2.Approach your wife and tell her she needs to put out more (because Dread)
    3. Approach your wife and tell her to get in better shape if she isn’t.
    4. In general, approach your relationship from an Alpha fux perspective for a week.
    5. And *innocently approach other pretties to keep your skills sharp.

    Just my two cents.

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    • on June 19, 2014 at 8:24 pm Nicole

      I’d advise husbands and committed guys to be very careful about overplaying dread on a red pill or Zion (conservatively raised) woman.

      You can find yourself in the pastor’s office or having a sit-down with in-laws, or an early grave.

      Someone who really sees you as their whole life, and is really doing the best she can, and thinks she might lose you to the whores of Babylon, gets Death in her eyes when you take that stuff too far. Some may kill you or themselves, while others will become dead to you.

      You can do worse damage within a marriage than 100 pump and dumps. Whatever tactics you use to bring her in line, don’t forget the overall strategy to keep her with you and alive. If she is always stressed out that you are going to leave her, then she starts to freak out or to steel herself for that eventuality.

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  45. on June 17, 2014 at 7:50 pm FamilyMan

    From a reddit thread:

    Fuck me? Y/N? If No, Friends? Y/N? If Yes, introduce me to other girls? Y/N? If Yes, ride the carousel of her friends until she decides she wants to try you for herself. If No, we aren’t actually friends. Try again with new girl.

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