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Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs

June 16, 2014 by CH

Email #1: “Steve” sincerely asks,

Important question:

Can sluts fall in love?

Absolutely. But they can also fall out of love. And they do both more easily than non-sluts.

Sluts are a strange amalgam of genetic, environmental, and “gray area” influences. Hormones are a good example of a gray area somewhere between the environment and genes which shapes character. While I’ve no hard evidence, I’d bet that sluts release less oxytocin than normal women do during lovemaking, which means the hard slut is less likely to emotionally bond when she’s spermally bonded.

******

Email #2: A reader has a question about needy ex-girlfriends.

My question is regarding ‘the rules of contact with your ex after a breakup’.

My gf and I recently split after 1 year (her idea) due to her feeling that our relationship had run its course and wasn’t going to progress. Despite the fact that I disagreed, I had no choice but to respect her wishes and let her go. I’m back to my single-guy-Alpha ways but she continues to contact me from time to time (weeknight texts ‘just thinking about you and wanted to say hi’ or late Sat night “we just got our hair done up for the night!”)

What in the fuck is one supposed to do w that? Half of my friends who I trust for counsel think I should refrain from replying or contacting her and just move on, re-fill my bullpen, etc. The other half are advising that I continue to pursue her, text w her, try to be around her, treat her like a human/friend etc. I’m curious what your experiences have taught you in similar situations.

Any kind of unsolicited contact from an ex-girlfriend, no matter how trivial or weird, is proof that she still has feelings for you. This sounds like a break-up she never really wanted, but considered a last ditch effort to bring you to heel. Or it was prodded by subterfuge from her jealous girl friends.

(When a girl breaks up after falling out of love, you will rarely, if ever, hear from her again unless necessity dictates.)

Whatever advice you’re getting, it’s nothing compared to the knowledge that you are sitting in the driver’s seat. You have hand. Lots of it. Use it like an acromegalic pimp.

She wants the lines of communication open, because she still has hope you’ll give her what she needs. Reply, but only a fraction of the time she texts. Initially, keep it friendly and frivolous, but don’t allow yourself to get boxed into a “friends forever?” interrogation. If she starts down that road, first, know she doesn’t really mean it, and second, amputate that rotten limb of conversation promptly. “You’re so funny” is a reply that will light a fire under her hamster’s ass. Anytime she sends you one of those “just thinking about you” texts, reply “aw that’s sweet.” If she texts, “just got our hair done”, reply, “thanks! i needed to know this.”

The idea is that you are reinforcing your relative higher value by repeatedly and (some would say) sadistically mocking her eagerness to keep you in her life.

Allow for a few weeks of this empty banter, then maneuver her into your fornication zone with a disarming suggestion: “If you need to talk, you can swing by tomorrow (tonight’s no good)”. Through the expert deployment of ambiguous promises, you want her to believe you are warming to the idea of a committed, conventional long-term relationship. The goal is increasing perceptions of your “commitment attainability”, and that will require some feints to the beta side. Convinced of your good intentions, you can extract sexual goodies in this manner for another six months or so, before the process begins anew.

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Email #3: “Chris” writes,

You’ve changed my life massively for the better, but now I’m not sure how to handle a girl I actually want.
She’s involved in the stuff I like (strength sports) and is overtly sexual, so she was off to a good start.  I chose to ignore a personal red flag (she trains horses). I set up for us to go somewhere fun and eat after, but the morning of, she cancels on me. I responded along the lines of that’s fine, but next time she has to make the plans, and so I gave up and deleted her contact info.

Never say “that’s fine” when a girl flakes at the last minute. That’s rewarding bad behavior. “lol” would have been a far superior response.

Knowing how these things work, I checked tinder and saw she was active right before that, most likely made plans with someone of higher status.

Your inner game is weak. You’re making a lot of assumptions that, even if they were proved true, do you no good to dwell on.

I DO actually like her and would like to, at the very least, bed someone who commonly complains on twitter that most guys aren’t man enough for her.

Any girls who “””brags””” in this way on a social media platform is very insecure about her ability to land an alpha male, and LOVES assholes. I can already tell by the jive of your email that you’re a niceguy, and that won’t do for girls of her nature. You need to turn your dick dial to “bring da movies“.

Should I write her off entirely and forget it since attractive 19 year olds are plentiful anyway? Or is there a decent way back in? My birthday is soon if that would afford an opportunity, though anything to do with that seems too friendly to restart on.

Birthday smirthday. You think a girl you aren’t fucking cares about your birthday? Turn hard dick on her, swirl her mental fallopian grooves, and marinate for a while. Right now, she’s dreaming a rough rider will saddle up and shove her face in the hay.

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Email #4: “Andrew” (not WK) is lost in a land of maneaters.

How do you differentiate between genuine interest and her showing interest in hopes of your attention/making you an orbiter?

Do you ever flirt about sex with her? If not, she sees you as Castrate the friendly ghost.

A girl I met a couple months ago has been showing a pretty solid amount of interest lately. Touches me, punches me when I tease, calls me cute, plays with my hair, etc. I follow everything in your blog, I follow a lot of Rollo’s advice, Roosh, etc. The reason I’m asking is, she’ll initiate a text, I’ll reply with something relevant, and she will reply hours later, but usually she never replies at all. This has happened about 3 times now and since then I’ve completely avoided texting to minimize the risk of desperation ruining my shit in person.

Beta bait. She’s threw out the chum (her texts), you replied on cue (and with relevancy no less!), she released you back to the ocean of dullboys.

Do you have a website you check when you’re bored, just to see if there is anything new? And when there isn’t, you just exit? I feel like I’m her “website”. She texts me, finds nothing interesting, and doesn’t respond. She trying to make me an orbiter or something?

She’s probably fishing for a reason to be attracted to you, but all she’s pulling up are old tires. This sounds less like a beta orbiter invitation than a girl who began sexually curious but suffered a dearth of confirmatory evidence. You can bet other guys are in her life, which drives down the value of your communication. You’re in sort of a limbo; not a love interest, not a desexualized beta buddy. Like the emailer above, I think you need to go the Full Asshole to reinvigorate her waning interest.

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Email #5: “Christian”, a reader with some fame cred asks,

Love the site. I check it every day. Opened my eyes to game and the red pill mentality. Thank you x10000000

Anyways, I have a job in media where I am in the public light. Small market gig but I’m on TV here and some people recognize me when I go out. I want to know your thoughts on how that could change my options when it comes to getting laid.

It’ll increase them. That’ll be $300.

I tend to avoid online dating sites for these reasons (don’t want to be recognized). I also tend to avoid bringing up my career w girls i meet unless asked.

This is a smart ploy. Fame’s pull on women is most powerful when it’s discovered rather than disclosed. Plus, you’ll have a particular need to filter out golddiggers. Fame is so powerful a tingle generator it’s best to be faux embarrassed about it.

I feel like my career is holding me back from achieving the life I want w women. I’m insecure about being recognized.

Being recognized is not your problem. Managing post-coital expectations is your problem.

I relish when I’m out of town and gaming chicks because I can be as free w my words and actions without that fear.

Any words of advice for those that have similar issues?

A lot of male public figures have mistresses and active sex lives. Yet you only hear about a small percentage of them blowing up the media each year. How do the rest manage their harems? Most women are so thrilled to be with a famous guy they’ll be very careful about rocking the boat. If this is your quandary, you’ll need to be more forcefully up front about what you expect from women, and what they can expect from you. Allowing drama to flourish just for the fun of it is a luxury you may not be able to afford.

If you want girls to “love you for who you are” instead of for the fame, well, the platitude princess can help you with that. She leaves quarters under pillows!

******

Email #6: Austin uncovers a new, potent form of shit test.

I’ve got a question about some game.  I feel like recently I’ve come across a (potential) shit test that I’m not familiar with, it usually goes something like

Her: You remind me of my ex boyfriend (playfully)

I like to go bold here

Me: So you’re saying I’m extremely handsome

usually puts them a little off or they pick some other quality, but I’m not sure where to go from here, thanks Gents

Context is crucial. If this shit test is delivered playfully, it means “oh no I’m falling for one of these guys again”. Your reply was OK, nothing really self-sabotaging about it, but I would have said something else. (It would feel a little gay to compliment a girl’s ex on his looks, however indirectly.) Where you go from there depends on her reaction. If she picks another quality, tell her you feel objectified, and (with a hammy smile) inform her that her flirting is horrible, and she needs to step up her game for a special snowflake like yourself.

The only real concern you should have with passing shit tests is, well, passing them. You don’t have to smash it to smithereens. A “D” is a passing grade. All you need to do is avoid getting defensive or overly emotionally engaged — e.g., “I remind you of your ex?! How so??” — and you’ll be fine.

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  1. on June 16, 2014 at 2:17 pm Macho

    Her: You remind me of my ex
    You: Let me guess, you have a “type”

    When in doubt reframe I say

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:40 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Wrong. That sound combative and angry. Women read that as insecurity. You need bemused mastery. One of the problems with the manosphere is we spend so much time complaining, it’s spilling over into our dealing with women. That kind of thing is poison and needs to be kept here, not in casual convos (unless you don’t like the woman and want to piss her off).

      Anyway, her statement is saying “Door’s open.” You don’t want it slammed in your face. A better follow up is something like “Oh, so you’re not married?” That’s an ambivalent statement she can take as a criticism, an opener for you asking her out, or both. Either way, it throws her off balance a bit and gives you some hand.

      If she responds with a good attitude, you can even follow her next statement up with something like “Hm, OK — so you feel like getting married after the party?” This has worked for me, since it provokes a laugh and usually “Shouldn’t we go on a date first?!” Me: “Well, if you want to be conventional…”

      I can’t stress enough that taking things too seriously needs to be confined to these spaces and NOT brought into our interactions with women. I’m speaking as someone who tried to do this and paid the price.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 1:06 am thrust

        i agree – excellent post.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:03 am Canadian Friend

        I have never tried this but I wonder if it could work,

        Her : you remind me of my ex

        Me : looks can be deceiving…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:12 am Canadian Friend

        or

        Her : you remind me of my ex

        Me : you remind me of my aunt Suzie

        She will probably want to know how you feel about aunt Suzie…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:05 pm Steve H

        Yes, and this is because indifference is everything. Indifference trumps all other tenets of game. Exuding anger, bitterness, or attachment to an outcome is the polar opposite of this. The girl should always feel that even though you’re expressing interest in her, if she doesn’t hook up with you that night – well, you’ll just end up hooking up with someone else the same night. Exude that kind of indifference.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:36 pm Zombie Shane

      Her: You remind me of my ex
      You: gay

      Or birthday cake cat gif.

      Or “…”

      Or absolute radio silence.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 5:58 am bob

      You have great taste in men, then.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 6:17 am AlmostAnonymous

      “You remind me of my ex”

      Oh, he was well hung too, was he?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:29 am thwack

        Her: nawh, the rope broke

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:43 am Joey

      “Sorry. I was thinking about the Steelers draft picks. What were you saying?”

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  2. on June 16, 2014 at 2:24 pm theasdgamer

    Her: You remind me of my ex
    You: You remind me of my next

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:55 pm Zombie Shane

      LIFO’ed my first try.

      I’d go with “gay”, birthday cat cake gif, “…”, or total radio silence.

      If you have to get wordy, then go hard asshole.

      Something like: “You mean he cheated on you ruthlessly? LOL’ed.”

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:08 pm oralcummings

        Just bought an Iconia B tablet by Aser,for $76. Any thoughts?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:31 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Iconia B [ANDROID] tablet”

        Have you seen the new DirecTV commercial?

        That shit came straight out of the manosphere:

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:09 pm yak

        yeah, that’s kind of jazzy.

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  3. on June 16, 2014 at 2:27 pm immoralgables

    Listen up playas. There are two kinds of shit tests you need to know about (credit to RSD Todd)

    1) Value Shit Test – “Why are you talking to me?”
    This is where you show why you are entitled, that you’re a man, that you’re not perturbed by her beauty, that you’re have solid frame that can’t be flayed. This is a good time to agree and amplify or just ignore and keep plowing

    2) Comfort Shit Test – “Why are you talking to me?”
    This is where you assuage her concerns that you’re just using her because she has a vagina. Now you can go the route of providing non-physical reasons as to why she’s attractive, “You’re quirky, I like that.” But RSD Todd showed a really good one that doesn’t step into her frame “Wow, that’s a really modest thing of you to say. Why would a girl like you think that?”

    Game on.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:59 am Tilikum

      dude. if a girl ever says “why are you talking to me” you need to step aside for a playa, son.

      i’ve NEVER had a female who wasn’t 200 pounds act that rude.

      maybe work a bit more on understanding body language and IOI’s. its tempting when the only tool you have is a hammer to turn everything into a nail, but you REALLY gotta get better tools.

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  4. on June 16, 2014 at 2:29 pm Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs | Manosphere.com

    […] Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs […]

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  5. on June 16, 2014 at 2:41 pm theasdgamer

    1st rule of Gamer: “When in doubt, next!”

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 7:25 am Hugh G. Rection

      Could easily also be the first rule of incel…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:27 am corvinus

        +1

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 11:28 am corvinus

      In this case, “doubt” can mean: 1) if you doubt she’s hot enough for you, or 2) if you doubt she’s at all interested, compared to the other girls you’re sarging.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 7:22 am theasdgamer

        If you doubt that she’s worth investing time in…or that your value is low in her eyes…or that you’ve been too beta…etc.

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  6. on June 16, 2014 at 2:42 pm Xavier Felipe

    Great stuff. !!!

    Sent from my iPhone

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  7. on June 16, 2014 at 2:47 pm Mike W

    In regards to email #2: When is a good time to introduce a bit of beta to an ex? and how much?

    I have an ex who I broke up with a 1.5 years ago because she was moving to another city. She’s had the same bf the entire time since moving (they got together shortly after we split), but she has never gone more than two weeks without texting me to see how I’m doing. I almost never initiate text with her. She’s also bugged me to meet up a few times and also made a couple offers to sleep together, which I rejected (although this has not happened in a few months). Now, she’s about to move back to my city. The last time I heard from her she laid on some heavy IOI’s via text (using old nicknames, ending with ‘xo’). I wasn’t very warm to it and now I haven’t heard from her in about 6 weeks. The longest its ever been since she moved. She’ll be back in the city in a couple weeks. Still with her bf. I’m interested in re initiating something. (Next her, move on, I know I know. but she was great and I’d like to explore if possible.)

    Whats the best approach? Should I reach out to her or should I simply wait, stay NC, and let her make a move if she’s interested?

    Is there a play here?

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:47 pm ballocaust

      NC if you think she’ll come around again in due time and want a chip shot like she’s offered before
      contact if you’re impatient or think you iced her out such that she won’t continue to chase

      always preferable when it falls in to your lap, but ball might be in your court having forced her to take a hint

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:32 pm Mike W

        Yes. I think you’re right on. I may have “over-gamed”, or just rejected too much for too long.

        Any advice on an approach to take if I do contact? It’l likely be through text.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:18 pm ballocaust

        test the waters, innocuous, light/friendly/playful shit.
        don’t assume the sale because you might have rejected your way out of it, better to ramp back up rather than assuming she’ll still be DTF off the bat after ghosting on you

        the ol “hey stranger hows it goin'” bit + maybe anchor something to shared past (nicknames or wtf inside jokes)

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:20 pm Zombie Shane

        Before you do anything else, for the sake of Goodness, spend some time thinking about just WTF you want from the poor devious cheating* whore slut.

        If you decide that she’s The One, then Alpha up and get her off of birth control and put some buns in her oven.

        If not, then MOVE ON.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:21 pm Zombie Shane

        *She has already offered to cheat on her new bf by sleeping with you.

        And if she’ll cheat on him, then she’ll cheat on you.

        Cheaters cheat.

        That’s their nature.

        It’s who they are.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:51 pm yeahokcool

        ZS, do you think sex is only good when performed for the ultimate purpose of reproduction?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:21 pm Zombie Shane

        It’s so much different, man.

        When the lightbulb finally goes off in your head and you FINALLY understand why God gave you a penis.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:26 am Zombie Shane

        And, more importantly, why God gave your penis them two round hairy friends down there to tag along with your penis.

        Then you get to worrying about the two round hairy friends, and whether, say, wearing briefs instead of boxers might be getting them all over-heated and causing their precious cargo to go stale.

        Or hell, just holding a laptop computer on your lap.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:31 pm Ras Al ghul

      I had an ex text me several times about two months after she got married . . .

      BTW it bears mentioning that if she was batshit crazy, what the girl is doing is called “hovering” trying to suck you back into her crazy.

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  8. on June 16, 2014 at 2:51 pm DangerZone

    “You remind me of my ex boyfriend (playfully)”

    I would have gone with: “Ya? But the important question is: do I remember you of your father?”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 2:51 pm DangerZone

      “remind”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:42 pm cheesetrader

      “Damn – I was trying for your mom/dog/cat”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:50 pm coolhandle

      “Cool!” said with a genuine smile.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:39 pm Zombie Shane

        > ““Cool!” said with a genuine smile.”

        Whew. Gotta disagree there.

        It is only cool if HE initiated the break-up between them.

        But if SHE initiated the break-up between them, then her saying that to you is a portent of impending disaster in your life.

        That’s precisely why I said to go hard asshole – just in case her ex was the Nice Guy Who Always Finished Last.

        You don’t want to be that guy.

        No fucking way.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:49 pm Zombie Shane

        I mean – fuck – see if that won’t fit into 140 characters:

        Her: You remind me of my ex
        You: You mean you always knew in your heart of hearts that eventually he would break up with you, and then, sure enough, he broke up with you?

        I get about 137 characters on that phrasing of it.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm Zombie Shane

        Her: OMG, you’re a total jerk!!!
        You: Yep. Bring the movies with you. No chick flicks.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:14 pm Zombie Shane

        Her: If you think I’m coming over to your place then you’re out of your mind.

        You: I’m at 101 East Main Street, second floor, Apt C. Be here by 9PM. Hurry up, or you’ll be late, and then you’ll lose your place in line.

        135 characters on that one.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:29 pm theasdgamer

        “Her: If you think I’m coming over to your place then you’re out of your mind.”

        Wait! Ur not Alison? Wrong #. Sorry bout the texts.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:27 am Zombie Shane

        You could MAYBE try sarcastic fake-vulnerability Game here.

        Her: You remind me of my ex
        You: Aww, that’s so cute!

        But I wouldn’t get “too clever by half” in this situation.

        Maybe spice it up a little more:

        Her: You remind me of my ex
        You: Aww, that’s so cute! Do you have one of those bumper stickers that says, “If you’re gonna ride my ass, then at least pull my hair?”

        136 characters right there.

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  9. on June 16, 2014 at 3:13 pm corvinus

    In other news, legal immigration to the United States fell below a million in 2013 for the first time since 2003:

    http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/ois_lpr_fr_2013.pdf

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:23 pm Anon

      Less sewage in a barrell of wine…

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:38 pm irishsavant

      Yeah, but illegal is going through the roof.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:29 am corvinus

        Back in 2006 we were getting 1.5 million Mexicans a year, so 250,000 Central Americans is still not nearly as bad as it once was.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 7:18 am Zombie Shane

      3350+ KOMMENTS AND COUNTING:

      This IT worker had to train an H-1B replacement
      U.S. workers protested job losses to foreign workers by displaying American flags in their cubicles
      http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248996/

      It’s hopelessly Beta to train your replacement, unless you are intentionally [and devastatingly] sabotaging your employer in the process.

      The encouraging news is that the dudes in the komments are fucking ready to go to WAR with our internationalist illuminati elites over this anti-Civilizational treason.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:26 am corvinus

        This IT worker had to train an H-1B replacement
        U.S. workers protested job losses to foreign workers by displaying American flags in their cubicles

        Old, old news. They’ve been doing this since the H-1B visa first came out.

        It’s hopelessly Beta to train your replacement, unless you are intentionally [and devastatingly] sabotaging your employer in the process.

        Given the incompetence of the Indian replacements — which is in fact finally getting out and becoming common knowledge — I don’t think sabotage is even necessary.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:22 pm Zombie Shane

        The other fatal mistake which Betas make is “commenting their code” and righting up “blueprints” and “tutorials” and “overviews” about what they’ve done.

        You go home at night to write up your comments and your blueprints and your overviews and your tutorials ON YOUR OWN TIME so that it is YOUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

        Then after the Cow-Worshipping tards give up in despair, and the suits have to admit defeat and bring you back in as a consultant, you will have some notes to help refresh your memory.

        NEVER TRAIN YOUR REPLACEMENT!!!

        NEVER COMMENT YOUR CODE!!!

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 2:32 pm corvinus

        Then after the Cow-Worshipping tards give up in despair, and the suits have to admit defeat and bring you back in as a consultant, you will have some notes to help refresh your memory.

        And to celebrate, get your friends together to have a BBQ with (what else?) cheeseburgers.

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  10. on June 16, 2014 at 3:18 pm Col Nicholson

    But where do you belong?

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  11. on June 16, 2014 at 3:29 pm irishsavant

    “Important question:

    Can sluts fall in love?”

    This question has fascinated me for a very long time. I look forward to a long and informative thread.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:46 pm gunslingergregi

      not gonna do it
      not
      gonna
      do
      it
      said old snl syle
      read my shit from yesterday that was a straight up street walkin whore
      she said she was out trying to find a dude though maybe was telling the truth and looking for that knight in shining amour
      ya can turn a whore into a housewife
      I’ve done it once
      this one not finished yet although passing tests with ease now
      he he he

      but really prob better for most dudes to turn a virgin into a hosewife
      my first wife pretty close to virgin and she was a great housewife
      had to learn to suck dick all that crap
      sex with her still got old though eventually

      my current it is like we keep reinventing the wheel on the sex
      it keeps being fresh after it gets old even though we got 2 years of history so far

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm gunslingergregi

        passing my tests fuck her shit tests he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:00 pm gunslingergregi

        to be really honest I have learned how to get way more out of a woman as I get older and to find the right ones for me
        I know what I want out of a woman now
        nothing less than godlike devotion
        and everything else
        maybe I needed to give the first wife more time to get her there
        but deep in her soul she wasn’t about money I am
        so me getting with whores is the perfect fit they money hungry and when ya get em on your side they money hungry for you
        and I never realized how much a woman could do for you until I got in relationships with whores

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:13 pm gunslingergregi

        imagine how many woman you know could handle their dude going from over 100k job to no job then living on 600 a month
        then no job then no money and he acts like a bitch now a lot and is completely and totally a broken man
        my wife did former whore
        I got better somewhat though he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:15 pm gunslingergregi

        there might be a difference though in woman who do it for money vs woman who do multiple dudes all the time for free

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:20 pm gunslingergregi

        course I told my little sis to play the field find a dude she clicks with so uhh yea woman got to find the right dude too

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:24 pm oralcummings

        Quit screwing around,write your life story as an ebook have amazon publish it;i will pay like 5 bucks for that shit! EZ money.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:04 pm gunslingergregi

        yea I pretty much have surpassed the dudes in books in all areas lol
        can I get the five bucks now and send ya copy when it is done?
        he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:51 pm yeahokcool

        GSG! I won’t give you any money, but I will continue to point out how awesome your posts are.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:59 pm gunslingergregi

        thanks bro

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:56 pm ballocaust

      damaged oxytocin pairbonding mechanisms plausible, reflecting N-count and r/K-esque genetic propensities

      depends on where you draw the lines re: “slut” and “love” as definitions of concepts.
      some might argue all are sluts and cannot truly love. some might argue none are sluts and capable of unique brands of attachment/love.

      better to be sure of the former of the two concepts to ensure best outcomes

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:13 pm Nicole

        I tell my male friends that there are only two kinds of women: whores and sluts.

        A whore does it for money/status/resources with pleasure as a side benefit, and a slut does it for pleasure (enzymes and oxytocin rush) and attention with money/status/resources as side benefits. You pick your poison…but choose wisely and with self honesty. Both kinds of women need some degree of all of those things.

        Either may love you, but that love depends on whether or not you are giving them what they need. If it stops, your relationship stops. If you don’t want any part of either deal, don’t have long term relationships.

        Unconditional love, you might get from your parents, but don’t expect it from a lover of any gender. You might get it, but it doesn’t depend on how many or few guys she’s shagged. Someone could be chaste because they don’t enjoy sex…and leave you in the cancer ward or nursing home.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:52 pm coolhandle

        So are you a slut or a whore, Nicole?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:33 pm Zombie Shane

        I don’t know about dyke nicole, but that cow-worshipping brown whore, feminaziX, used to get on here and brag about how much a man’s money would arouse her.

        Which, from dyke nicole’s point of view, makes feminaziX’s other pseudonym, “Little Spoon”, all that much more devious, since it would imply that feminaziX is merely a slut, rather than the gold-digging whore which she really is:

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spoon

        Spoon: romantic cuddling

        Divorce Industrial Complex RAPE! – just waiting to happen.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 4:58 am Nicole

        Unfortunately Cool, I’m a slut. I say unfortunately because a more emotionally intelligent woman is a whore.

        Sluts are bumblers. We really don’t know our head from our ass once the hormones start flowing, and usually need the advice of whores to get us out of trouble.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:04 am Nicole

        Zombie, I am not doing a threesome with you.

        I did not mean to imply that FemX is anything, but if I had to analyze her, I would class her as a whore, just not a very good one. This is probably because she didn’t have good mentors. So she allows herself to talk about things she shouldn’t.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:17 am Zombie Shane

        > “usually need the advice of whores to get us out of trouble”

        Or you could have married a good man and been a dutiful wife.

        If all of your men weren’t on-the-down-low. Or in prison. Or both.

        BTW, did you ever have a chance to marry a white man?

        Some dudes will go for the ebony poontang.

        Hell, look at De-Blows-ee-o in NYC.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:54 am Greg Eliot

        Nicoles speaks from the only experience she has with other women, living amongst her own sooty snarky kind… and the occasional castaway mudshark.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:38 am Charlie Don't Surf

        Ugh … Just picturing the self-loathing Nicole holding her lecture series on sluts and whores makes my nuts shrivel. The pick your poison circular argument – choose between your balls or being a beta provider – but you don’t get both!

        What a conundrum? What should I do? I can’t decide – I’ll just have to get one of each, a slut and a whore.

        Can sluts fall in love? Who’d Care! They’re dirty and lack character.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:51 am thwack

        Mr. Eliot you are out of order; another outburst like that and I will have the bailiff escort you out of the building.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:40 am Greg Eliot

        I hold this court in contempt.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:31 am corvinus

        Nicoles speaks from the only experience she has with other women, living amongst her own sooty snarky kind… and the occasional castaway mudshark.

        Uh, Greg, I think this is a different Nicole. She has a completely different writing style. For one, she doesn’t go all Marxist every other time she opens her mouth.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:44 am Greg Eliot

        My bad, then… I just saw another set of posts from the Queen of Babble-On and just ass-umed it was still her online.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 12:39 am Nicole

        Zombie, this isn’t about me. If you want to drag this down to attacks on my personal life, be aware that I do and always have lived on the fringes, so I’m used to being attacked. Pound for pound, I can take much more criticism and opposition than your usual mediocre opponents. I am not a normal person, and do not advise normal people to live alternative lifestyles. As far as the sheep are concerned, I’m fully with you on “buns in the oven”.

        The main problem with folks today is that everybody thinks they’re special. Few are willing to pay the cost of actually being special.

        Cases in point, Charlie and Eeyore, what you fail to understand is that there is nothing in between. ALL women are either sluts or whores. NONE of us belong on the pedestal. A woman who is neither does not exist. Even the most chaste nun is either a slut or a whore for Jesus. You will be much less frustrated and confused by women if you get that through your thick skulls.

        Sluts are overly sentimental, dirty and undisciplined at best, and self destructive at worst, and whores (the majority) are mercenary at best, and murder level exploitive at worst. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to pick one that suits your needs. If you’re with a slut, you need to choose if you want to be the bitch or the man. If you’re with a whore, you need to choose if you want to be the client or the pimp.

        Both have women within their respective type, who can do monogamy very well…just with a slut, you can expect sex with that monogamy on just enough money to keep her at home, or have a high enough sex drive to keep her brain swimming in oxytocin. With a whore, you need to be making enough to keep her very comfortable and amused, or have a strong enough pimp hand to get her to bring you the money.

        Whores are usually prettier than sluts because their body is their business. So for most guys here, if they are truly as unforgiving of physical flaws as they claim to be, a good whore is a better long term investment.

        You can have an assortment of both. Just don’t get them mixed up.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 2:29 am Nicole

        Corvinus, no, it’s me. I’ve just had a sort of shift of perspective due to stronger “inner game”.

        For you guys, it’s about getting chicks…for us, it’s about repelling the wrong dicks.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 12:37 am Eeyore

      Absolutely sluts fall in love. They become infatuated, and they do alright in the early stages of intimacy–discovery, acceptance of differences…. Where they fall down is commitment.

      By temperament they’re day traders, not investors. If they stumble into a good thing, they get their hopes up, but lack the discipline to realize its full potential.

      The married sluts I know are all unfaithful. It’s probably easier to rehabilitate a whore than a slut–not that I’d want to be the one to try it.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:41 am Greg Eliot

        An excellent analogy… tip o’ the cap to ya, sir.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 8:40 am Nicole

        There is no rehab. It is a matter of what every woman is at the core. The perfectly angelic woman doesn’t exist. We are all flawed. When pressed, those flaws come out…and some of them are so ingrained that they can barely be called flaws. The only reason they might be considered flaws is because some pseudo-spiritual leaders with heads full of inhuman ideals told you they were. This is just how we’re built.

        We use multiple strategies, and have some range of emotion about it, but deep down, we are all doing it for love or money.

        Sluts are great at commitment so long as they don’t play it like whores. We can’t hold a man on intimidation and still be attracted to him. Really whores can’t either, but they are better natural actresses.

        If you want the most options, have the best game you can, and the most money you can get. I will not blow smoke up your ass and tell you that you can be beta and broke and be okay.

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  12. on June 16, 2014 at 3:34 pm whorefinder

    My emails to Our Dark Lords and Masters contain only one word.

    repeated 10,000 times.

    in comic sans.

    Any guess what it is?

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:47 pm cheesetrader

      Catkis

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm Ted Cunterblast

      Cigstache.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 4:08 pm gunslingergregi

        did I hit cigstache
        I plead the 5th your honor

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:53 pm coolhandle

      Bob-a-booey?

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:04 pm gaoxiaen

      Merkin.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:19 pm whorefinder

        Wrong, but I like your style.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm Matthew

      Crêpe.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 10:19 pm Modern Primitive

      Lollzolozolozl

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 1:30 am Tim

      Cockas

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 12:29 pm whoredumper

      In reality, WhoreFinder’s strategy is actually what bitches want. eVERY TIME I OVERCAME RESISTANCE BY DEFAULT WITH A GIRL WHO SPENT TIME WITH ME BY FORCING HER WHEN SHE WAS ATTACTED I WAS IN A RED PILL COUNTRY, ITS ONLY WHEN I CAME HERE I SOMEHOW FORGOT IT DUE TO THE IDIOTIC ENVIRONMENT BRAINWAHSING. << jus noticed caps, ma bad.

      All you do when a girl is spending time with you ( she won't if she doesn't want the D0 is push push push (to RAPEY push) and she will give in.

      Ive converted so many girls (as a natural/no red pill) who wouldnt suck cock (in red pill countries) cause it was disgusting (virgin girls from good families and conservative culture) and then by the end of our 3rd time time theyd jump into the car and ask permission to unzip my pants and love cuking my lotsaa thick cockass.

      Girls are just monkeys who feel what they are trained to feel. It is up to YOU, THE MAN, to define it. Societies that criminalize this law of nature are depraved.

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  13. on June 16, 2014 at 4:22 pm Mandingo

    My theory for why sluts don’t fall in love easily is simple: A barrage of average dicks numbs her to associate that all men are the same.

    In general, girls can only fall in love when certain pre-requisites are met. If she’s young, a huge chunk of it would be your looks (i.e. facial attractiveness, height, your proportional build, and most importantly, your dick size and sex skills). Game is an icing on the cake, after you pass her attraction threshold.

    Now, I’m not saying guys have to have supermodel looks but you do have to keep yourself as attractive as possible to really work her primal brain. The id can’t be fooled through mental trickery. If it is, as ephemeral as that may be, then you’re working on getting sex from her on a transactional basis and not based on genuine desire. This is pretty obvious if you’re the one doing all the contact, even if she does spread her legs open for you.

    But anyway, sluts inherently crave male attention more than the average woman. This attention attracts buyers, and boy will there be buyers! She samples many types of cocks on the regular and soon she will recognize the men she deals with in patterns. Much like a player does with sluts. Here’s the key part: The only way to by-pass this is to have a bigger dick and fuck her harder than any other guy she’s ever been with.

    Guys fail to realize that sex, is really what causes her to love you. Her primal brain rules over her, and once you tap into that by your dick and sex skills, she’s as good as putty in your hands. I can confirm this myself and I’m pretty sure a handful of other guys can.

    This is an ugly truth for many guys out there because penis size is genetically determined. You can still jelq and stretch but you may not be anywhere near as big as a guy who was blessed with a head start.

    Also, for a couple of months, I was a bartender at a popular bar downtown. My barback was some gay guy and he told me what women talked about when no (hetero)man was around. With him being gay, girls would confess to him many things about what women really found attractive in a man and what really sparked their ids like none other. I really liked hearing the stories about the types of fantasies women have but they all just reaffirm my belief that all women are debased creatures at their core.

    But like I said, It always came down to penis size and sex.

    I remember the gay guy telling me, “Don’t ever believe that penis size doesn’t matter.Girls tell me stuff like, ‘Omg, Michael has like the biggest dick ever. It makes me feel girly when I hold it. I think I may be falling guys!’ They always bring this up and it’s probably the most important thing to them. They may never admit it to you in person but it is.”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:27 pm oralcummings

      Ok..but the idea that you talk to a gay about womens love for big cocks raises the question of “why is this homo telling me this…what does he want?”…ahem…

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:25 pm whorefinder

        He’s black, man; 90% are on the down low. Shortly after Mandingo posted this, he went behind the dumpster and sucked the fa66ot’s cock…and swallowed. And will claim he’s not gay.

        Down low rape!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:53 pm cryo

      Ok…thanks for that man. That was really helpful. We are all better men now for having read that.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:55 pm whorefinder

        He’s black; he is mentally incapable of understanding your sarcasm.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:58 pm cryo

        @whorefinder

        lol good point

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:00 pm thrust

        my ex/fb slut loves muh dik. it’s why she sticks around. she’s said countless times that she loves the love gun.

        why? it’s not big. 7′.

        a few reasons why.

        1. i maintain the motherfuck constantly
        2. tanning nekkid
        3. i use it as a weapon. im not ashamed of brutally plowing you.

        sadly, i may be hard when i go into her cockpit – but as she gets wet, the poosy loosens – thus, little friction to work with, and the size depreciates. bitch has a big cooter.

        too bad, because that’s a slut tell if i ever felt one

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:16 pm Scray

        ‘why? it’s not big. 7′.’

        It’s not big.
        7″

        Pick one.
        Then again, my experiences with women — and they’re rapidly growing now — have led me to the conclusion that most every guy lies about his dick.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 4:52 pm thrust

        scray.

        lol it’s not big ya gluebag. 7= not ‘big’

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:14 pm Scray

        Ya, no I understand that’s what you said…that’s just untrue. I mean, unless all the girls you’ve been with are like 6’0+ or something.

        Here, play with the numbers yourself
        http://bl.ocks.org/abovethemean/raw/9395398/

        Stand by what I said before….

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:57 pm coolhandle

      Two problems: selection bias, black.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm whorefinder

      lol. just lol.

      paging dr. thwack masta P! Another delusional darkie and his dreams for you to practice your “on the down low” skills with…

      Obama rape!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:02 pm whorefinder

      Guys fail to realize that sex, is really what causes her to love you.

      But like I said, It always came down to penis size and sex.
      —LMAO ROFL.

      This is the laughable man’s money shot. As wrong as when blue pillers proclaim that women just want nice guys.

      You clearly haven’t learned anything from the manosphere, especially this blog. Go back and re-read.

      As your (evil white) teachers should have told you, sambo, your reading comprehension is very poor, and you refuse to accept evidence that contradicts you.

      You have failed life.

      Like all darkies.

      Rape!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:08 pm cryo

      Even if penis size is the most important thing to have, it’s one of those things you can’t change. Just like your height, eye color, etc. So the essence of your effortpost is “haha I’m black and bitches love my huge dick, you mad?”

      Congrats, you are God’s gift to women. So I wonder why you feel the need to brag anonymously on the internet?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:24 pm whorefinder

        Don’t let the kneegro sweat you, man; like all 3/5ths, they’re all style, no substance, no brains. He’s basically repeating what some other subhumans told him and thinking its magic juju to make him a Big Man.

        just laugh at the silly sambo, outgame him, and giggle at the mudsharks who later try to get with human beings. And, of course, never use those mudsharks for anything else than a one-night stand–if that.

        Race rape!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm Reservoir Tip

      Muh dik

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:45 pm gunslingergregi

        i’m fallin in love with muh dik
        just really everything in life ironic or always missing a piece that you think you know
        always
        every fucking time

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:41 pm gunslingergregi

      so she had husband and a black dude drug dealer who also has to work and also had to deal in order to just get a piece of my bitch
      the husband and my bitch were fucking living In this dudes other house and shit
      so it is like she had those two dudes fucking her
      black dude would wash my bitch and her husbands clothes and fold that shit lol wtf
      and she also had a fucking vibrator to use to get herself off as well
      when she with me no multiple dicks no vibrator just me
      and its enough
      both dudes want her both dudes lost her
      she been with me last 7 months
      or so except three days but yea I kind of set that one
      but look what happened she sat there and missed her gregi greg for three days and then basically turned herself in to get off the shit in jail
      plus husband even got the kids to use on her and that ain’t even enough to get her off me now
      so yea what’s up bitches lol
      sometimes ya just got to be like yea I accept this mission fuck it
      i’ll prove disprove some shit
      go all fucking gorillas in the mist and shit
      I can steal any bitch
      I make hard mutherfuckin hustlers nervous
      i’m a fucking goody two shoes
      but i’m hard in some areas for sure he he he

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 1:38 am Glengarry

        Orbiters with benefits … for a while lol

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:01 pm LP

      He was fucking with you. I worked in a bar for over a decade and never overheard such BS. I actually heard the opposite. Dick size is fun to talk about but low on the list.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:09 pm CH

        the thing with big dicks is that when a girl first sees it the guy is already halfway into her snatch. or, its practicality as a pickup device is somewhat limited.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:16 pm thrust

        i also find men that are around my size should skip the eating out supplication and dive deep into what krauser reccomends. just plow the shit out of her, and do not let up.

        i’ve followed his method for over a year – i prefer it

        http://krauserpua.com/2012/12/24/how-to-be-a-sex-god/

        http://laidnyc.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/how-to-make-sure-krauser-doesnt-have-sex-with-your-girlfriend/

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:06 pm theasdgamer

        CH bleated, “…when a girl first sees it the guy is already halfway into her snatch…”

        Ain’t necessarily so. One chick measured me with her hand before we went at it the first time. The only foreplay was her pulling off her bra and sweater, then my pants. I figured out recently that she was holding a tryout. Some women _do_ care about size.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:57 pm CH

        come on, dude. by the time most girls see men’s dicks sex is a foregone conclusion.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:50 pm Will

        what if we all were saying
        “Dude her clit was huge she orgasmed so easily!”
        “good thing her clit was big so she could orgasm, squirt and let my sperm swim to her eggs faster”

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:57 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        @CH, one can grind their dick against her ass when dancing or the like. It probably does help, but I doubt it’s as important as the poster makes it out to be. This being said, he’s right about looks mattering quite a lot, much like the way you dress does. The reality though is that with some effort, most men would look attractive to women. Work out, get a nice haircut and buy some proper fitting clothing that’s at least a little stylish and you will get far more attention from everyone. Of course, it will mostly be pointless if when you open your mouth you will ask her if her parents are terrorists because they surely made a bomb.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:42 pm The Burninator

        @CH

        the thing with big dicks is that when a girl first sees it the guy is already halfway into her snatch. or, its practicality as a pickup device is somewhat limited.

        The trick is to do it casually. At a house party, walk around with it hanging outside your pants, stop occasionally and light up a cigarette and give unsmiling nods/winks to women. Don’t talk. heh

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:52 pm theasdgamer

        CH replied intelligently: “come on, dude. by the time most girls see men’s dicks sex is a foregone conclusion.”

        CH, sex once, sure. A fling or FB or LTR, maybe not. It depends on why the woman is into sex with a man. If it’s because of tremendous sexual attraction, size probably doesn’t matter. If it’s so that she can brag about a fling and the number of O’s she has, then maybe it does. (A chick might get more turned on psychologically if the man has a large johnson.) The big O. can happen for any normal range size gina unless the woman has a huge cavern. Then it can get tricky.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 12:03 pm Mandingo

      All these defensive posts by whorefinder lead me to believe that he has a small penis. Don’t worry little guy, I’m pretty sure you can find yourself a virgin Christian girl. Just don’t let her near around a real man like me or else she’ll never have the hots for you again. Thank hypergamy for that.

      Also, you said, “You clearly haven’t learned anything from the manosphere, especially this blog. Go back and re-read.”

      Two of the big pillars in the manosphere: Roosh and Rollo, both have mentioned that dick size is important.
      Rollo: http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/17/size-matters/
      Rooshv: http://www.rooshv.com/the-perfect-game

      Roosh’s is a bit more indirect in admitting this, but if you read between the lines, it’s all there.

      So it’s pretty clear that it is you who has to re-read the archives. But why bother? It won’t make that little guy grow by knowing the truth anyway. lol

      As for the other “muh dick” posts. All stereotypes, not matter how crass or innocent, have a kernel of truth to them.

      Woman do know a big dick when they see and feel one. They usually use their hands or arms to compare it. Another commentor also mentioned women can guess your size when you two are dancing. He’s correct. A girl will often shuffle her ass crack around trying to feel my dick and once she’s found it, she will go up and down and guesstimate the size.

      A man with a big genitalia is an honest marker of his manhood, this is why women are overcome by primal desire when they see one. The desire to please it is so strong in women, they won’t ever deny you a blowjob when they get a chance. I hear some men getting denied for bjs and they honestly believe that the girl is messed in the head or she’s not “comfortable” just yet. LOL, She’s just playing you by sparing your feelings. Women know men have huge egos when it comes to size, so she’ll try to lightly con you into thinking it doesn’t matter.

      [CH: big dicks are great to have, but in the grand scheme are relatively unimportant as male mate attraction cues. this includes dancing closely.]

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:21 pm Scray

        Ya, it matters in the sense that ‘everything matters.’
        http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199601/the-orgasm-wars

        Facial symmetry correlates most with female orgasm, FWIW.

        I mean, all I’ll say is that what you need for a girl to think you’re huge is WAY WAY different than what a normal guy would think is objectively huge.

        What matters is always how attracted to you they are.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:40 pm Canadian Friend

        I have always had doubts about women being more romantic than men and that psychologytoday article pretty much says I am right,

        here is an excerpt,

        “…It’s important to note what did not correlate with female orgasm during sex. Degree of women s romantic attachment did not increase the frequency of orgasm! …

        Everyone of us has been told since childhood that women are more romantic, more sentimental, more fragile etc

        it is all a big lie; women have orgasms for men who are hot looking, not for men they have romantic feelings for.

        what they are saying is; love has not much to do with a woman’s orgasms

        One could say that women think with their vaginas as much ( if not more ) as men think with their dicks.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:58 pm theasdgamer

        “[CH: big dicks are great to have, but in the grand scheme are relatively unimportant as male mate attraction cues. this includes dancing closely.]”

        I concur. Facial expressions (e.g., cocky grin, dancing eyes) can be emotional catnip to women and cause an avalanche of gina tingles. Big c0cks on first encounter, not so much.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:02 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        Funny enough, despite being average sized, I always found the ‘size doesn’t matter’ trope to be of utmost imbecility. I think you are making the opposite mistake: of overemphasizing the importance of it. I assume it does make laying girls easier if she feels it up and realizes you have a big dick and she’s partial to them, but it’s not the maker or breaker of things unless you’re 3″ long and .5″ thick.

        “I hear some men getting denied for bjs and they honestly believe that the girl is messed in the head or she’s not “comfortable” just yet.”
        See, I’m average sized and never had this problem. I never understood friends that had this happen to them. I don’t even particularly care about my size that much. I used to before I put it inside a girl, but I don’t worry that much about it now. Not that I’d mind if it grew an inch overnight. lol

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        I forgot to mention:
        1)since most women get an accurate assessment of it fairly close to sex and only a really small one would result in her laughing instead of continuing, you will get to lay her anyway
        2)if she won’t see you again because of the size of your tool, does it really matter? If I had a huge dick and a girl only gave me the light of day because of the size of my dick, I’d next her unless she was truly gorgeous(or if I didn’t next her, I’d want to throat fuck her with no mercy each time she wants my 8====D). So I see no real loss here except having to work slightly harder at game in contexts where I could otherwise rub my dick against their asses, which is a limited social sphere anyway.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:16 pm Amy

        “Woman do know a big dick when they see and feel one. They usually use their hands or arms to compare it. Another commentor also mentioned women can guess your size when you two are dancing. He’s correct. A girl will often shuffle her ass crack around trying to feel my dick and once she’s found it, she will go up and down and guesstimate the size.”

        Oh bullshit. Lol

        The other guys are right. It matters, but less than guys tend to think it does, unless it’s really small.

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  14. on June 16, 2014 at 4:28 pm PA

    Sluts and love:

    Love as a kind of innocence and as a capacity for illusion, as an aptitude for epitomizing the whole of the other sex in a single loved being rarely resists a year of sexual immorality, and never two. In reality the successive sexual experiences accumulated during adolescence undermine and rapidly destroy all possibility of projection of an emotional and romantic sort; progressively, and in fact extremely quickly, one becomes as capable of love as an old slag.

    – Michel Houellebecq, “Whatever”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:24 pm haunted trilobite

      iron maiden have a song called “wasting love” along the same lines. Muslims are clever in ways, they use our warped cum guzzlers for their fancy wanking, but they marry a pure virgin, veil her up and get her pumping out kids. Community spirit, etc. The brits and Americans went to war in droves to preserve way of life, democratic ideals etc, when Hitler was making waves. Nobody would bother anymore to defend these vile whores abduction their SATC lifestyle.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:05 pm thrust

        nice maiden reference. their only ballad if im not mistaken

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:16 am Rick Derris

        Iron Maiden is a severely under-rated band. That hipster beta-boy band of fucking fudgepacking faggots Wheatus had a lot of nerve ripping on them in that shitty teenage dirtbag song. I’d like to see the Wheatus drummer even approach the skills of 60+ year old Nicko.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:59 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I think this applies to men too. I still feel like being romantic at times, but it surely became less and less frequent with experience. Probably this is why people who marry their high-school sweethearts often look so in love together even after a few years pass.

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  15. on June 16, 2014 at 4:31 pm Libertardian

    “Through the expert deployment of ambiguous promises, you want her to believe you are warming to the idea of a committed, conventional long-term relationship. The goal is increasing perceptions of your “commitment attainability”, and that will require some feints to the beta side. Convinced of your good intentions, you can extract sexual goodies in this manner for another six months or so, before the process begins anew.”

    This warms the warped, blackened lump formerly known as my heart.

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  16. on June 16, 2014 at 4:31 pm pocketaces

    “I remind you of your ex bf?”

    “He must be one ugly motherfucker.”

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  17. on June 16, 2014 at 4:32 pm Anonymous

    Because I’m a big guy I would have said “Are you going to try to get me to kick my ass?”

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  18. on June 16, 2014 at 4:35 pm christianmorris

    Chicks don’t want niceguys, they want all the idiocy that unashamed men bring with them.
    Simple. Stick to the arsehole instinct and you’ll never fail.

    Look at these two English faggots:-

    These two are boyfriends. They’re English with a foul accent from Essex. They’re not innately good looking.
    Yet their sheer brazenness has them surrounded by interested, hot chicks, who’re laughing – good sign.

    Also, they’ve good bodies from fag gym. They’re wandering around Marbella with single cheek thongs hiding their hairless junk.
    They act like they do this every day of their lives.
    They’re only in their early twenties.
    THAT’S brazen – catnip to chicks, especially hot young ones.

    You’ll never see breeder men like this.

    That’s the secret. Chicks dig this kinda nonsense

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:17 pm FuriousFerret

      LOL.

      Moral of the story is simply act and dress like a rockstar and girls flock.

      The only downside is that you draw the wrath and envy of many men doing that but with that said who really cares? Those guys are lame.

      If a lot men say that it’s ‘gay’ or ‘stupid’ in terms of fashion then it might be a good idea to try it out. This can include tats, long hair, flashy clothes, accessories, lean toned gym physique, etc.

      Some people around here regularly discount styles/tactics that veer towards the feminine but are super useful. Russell Brand is going to destroy most James Bond types in this day and age in terms of pick up.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 5:58 pm cryo

        There are no James Bond types. Have you ever seen a guy in reality that is as Alpha as Daniel Craig plays in the Bond films? I haven’t. On the other hand, I’ve seen plenty of tryhard peacockibg clowns up in da klub who think they’re the next Russell Brand.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:08 pm English Dude

        Fuck getting a tattoo just for sluts.

        Modifying my behaviour in some ways to try and be more appealing, at very specific times is one thing. Permanently branding myself just because the stupid, dumb herd bitches all do it and expect everyone else to = gtfo

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:14 pm FuriousFerret

        “Fuck getting a tattoo just for sluts.

        Modifying my behaviour in some ways to try and be more appealing, at very specific times is one thing. Permanently branding myself just because the stupid, dumb herd bitches all do it and expect everyone else to = gtfo
        ”

        Many guys hate on other guys’ tats simply because they know it’s attractive to some sloots and don’t like he might have an edge.

        The stupid, dumb herd bitches actually expect the exact opposite for a guy not to have the ability to peacock in the form of a tattoo and that’s why it’s attractive, because it shows he doesn’t care about normal social norms/opinions.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:22 pm cryo

        Ferret, get real. It is more rebellious these days to NOT have a tattoo. Shit just dressing like a high class gentleman is way outside of the norm.

        I always lol when people but into institutional rebellion thinking they are bucking the system. Yeah ok.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:22 pm cryo

        *buy into institutional rebellion

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:38 pm FuriousFerret

        “I always lol when people but into institutional rebellion thinking they are bucking the system. Yeah ok.”

        Sloots are dumb. They don’t understand that it’s institutional rebellion. LOL.

        I get what you’re saying. That a lot of guys wear tats to seem dangerous and hard however when push comes to shove they are pussies. But you’re viewing it from the perspective of a guy, not a sloot.

        Also even if it just decoration to attract attention. So what? It’s not like it’s some high crime against humanity.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:43 pm cryo

        The problem is with your mindset. You’re buying into a sloot’s reality rather than creating your own and leading them into it. Whatever though, if it gets you laid and that’s all you want then who am I to argue.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:07 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Have you ever seen a guy in reality that is as Alpha as Daniel Craig plays in the Bond films?”

        I dunno, my main man, Vlad the Bad Putin, does a wicked “Daniel Craig as James Bond” impersonation.

        BTW, if you wanna see a gut-wrenching pre-Bond role by Daniel Craig, then check out a cult movie called “Enduring Love”.

        With the proviso that it is NOT for the faint of heart.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:16 pm cryo

        Putin’s He-Man photos are carefully engineered to sway the public. No doubt the guy is the real deal but still got to calm bullshit when I see it.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:50 pm gunslingergregi

        cryo

        The problem is with your mindset. You’re buying into a sloot’s reality rather than creating your own and leading them into it. Whatever though, if it gets you laid and that’s all you want then who am I to argue.
        ”””””””””

        bitches are meant to be malleable to change to you

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:31 pm thrust

        cryo has it.

        its the fucking mindset.

        i dont do it because it’s alpha – it’s alpha because i do it.

        in this example it’s ink. i have none.

        it’s like slapping a bumper sticker on a ferarri

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 6:02 am The Burninator

        Yeah, fuck tats. I’m a biker (and vet), the very last kind of person you’d expect to see without ink. When asked, and I’m asked with some frequency, I simply say “I don’t do what everybody else does. Problem?”.

        Make it appeal to emotions with chicks, throw out the “You got a problem with me not following the crowd, bitch” and you’re 80% of the journey to the bedroom.

        As to “James Bond” and the faggot-ish Russel Brand, who cares? They’re both fictions, one literally from literature/movies and the other as a self creation meant for public image consumption. If we’re looking for alpha role models, look to real life alphas, not entertainers and fictional characters. Putin, Genghis Khan, Aristotle, Plutarch, Churchill, Hemingway, Bukowski, etc. these sonsofbitches grabbed life by the balls and squeezed hard, I’ll take them any day over some waify semi-gay far leftist twat or a fictional fantasy character.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 6:56 am The Spirit Within

        @Burninator

        Bukowski was a beta tool who worked in the USPS desk for like twenty-five years. He was a miserable son-of-a-bitch who dreamed up a badass persona that he *barely* could fulfill.

        Hemingway wore ladies’ panties in the bedroom and sometimes asked his women to spank him. Read the biographies.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:22 am The Burninator

        I’m well aware of who they were (though I suspect the Hemingway items are more folklore from detractors than actual facts, since they likely originated from spurned lovers, but even if not, who cares?). If Bukowski “barely” managed to be a badass, well, that’s a full level of reality higher than any media celebrity has obtained. What his holding steady employment has to do with it, well, is beyond me. Supporting your own self is not “beta”. He despised the system, railed against it, wrote rather insightful poetry and prose, got laid and lived life by his own terms even when it hurt him. They took control of their lives and owned their successes and failures fully. Accountability and full self awareness are good things to shoot for. I’d consider a man who owns his failures in life fully and who gives a joyful middle finger to a society that considers him a failure far more alpha than a fictional movie character that is not based on reality.

        This is of course a tangent to my point, which is to discard Hollywood standards of “masculine”.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:02 am Greg Eliot

        Many guys hate on other guys’ tats simply because they know it’s attractive to some sloots and don’t like he might have an edge.

        I’m guessing FuriousFerret has tatoos… which personally I don’t care for, but every man’s captain of his own ship.

        But I have to draw the line at the “just jealous” Cathedralesque shithouse psychology.

        No, my friend… the rest of us DON’T think you have an edge with the women…

        We hate on tattoos because they look stupid in the vast majority of cases, and the mentality to graffiti the “temple of your soul”, as God calls it, usually manifests itself in other myriads of bonehead ways.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 11:34 am Canadian Friend

        It is a temporary anomaly/a symptom of a sick culture that some women these days are more attracted to a Russel Brand type than to a James Bond type.

        Women are not all into feminine men, the tens of millions who read the book Fifty shades of Grey are into manly men. ( even if he is fictional and there are no images of him, he is the opposite of gay-ish Russel Brand )

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:54 pm Scray

        ‘If a lot men say that it’s ‘gay’ or ‘stupid’ in terms of fashion then it might be a good idea to try it out. This can include tats, long hair, flashy clothes, accessories, lean toned gym physique, etc.’

        Ya. Strong this.
        I’d also go as far as saying that any time a guy thinks you’re coming off ‘like a douchebag’ or whatever, take a moment and study yourself. You’re probably doing something right.

        The key cue is how they make fun of you. If they make fun of you by parodying you, it’s money. Like, if you wear a shirt with a bunch of stupid tribal designs on it, and they instantly are like ‘oh wow sup bros, I’m here with my red solo plastic cup!’ This means you’re triggering a stereotype — and it happens to be a stereotype that gets laid.

        I kinda think that just by doing game and getting your shit together, you’ll naturally start to peacock anyway.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:59 pm CH

        men, especially male friends, will rib a buddy when he steps outside the drone fashion box. this is as you said a sign that you’re doing something right.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:16 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        I simply consider tattoos a good indicator of low value in people. This does have minor exceptions, but as a rule, it rarely failed me. And Brand would destroy a Bond type because most women nowadays are low hanging fruit and because there are no repercussions to being a loud mouthed imbecile.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:54 pm Canadian Friend

        … I simply consider tattoos a good indicator of low value in people. This does have minor exceptions, but as a rule, it rarely failed me….

        I agree.

        The number of tattoos and where they are also (usually) says a lot about a person.

        Tiny tattoo on the ankle = probably not a bad girl

        Large tattoos on the neck and face = probably a very fucked up/dysfunctional/neurotic bitch.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:33 pm gunslingergregi

        yea no tats either burn

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:28 pm theasdgamer

      Idk, Chris. I just dance and the hotties want to dance with me. They giggle nervously and stare at me all through the dance and try hard to please me. Or else chat me up while we dance. And say that I owe them a dance. If they are with a man, they act deferentially to me, but dominant towards the man they are with. They often hug me as a “thank you” and rarely kiss me. Frequently they press their tits against my arm when I escort them off the dance floor. One drunk broad pressed my hand against her tit after a dance. One hottie held onto me after a dance, pulled my hips to hers, wrapped her arms around my neck and moved her head into the kiss zone, holding my gaze. I’ve even been kino’d. Once when I sexualized (it was a blue moon) it looked like a couple of attractive broads were trying to set up a threesome with me.

      Couples Dance Instruction Game FTW. Couples dancing feeds into the male/female biological dominance/submission dynamic. Add in instruction (where further dominance/submission is understood) and it’s powerful stuff. Loads of DHV.

      When I’m out dancing, it’s for the exercise, not for fun and games. Being married and vow-keeping, I don’t flirt unless we have an understanding that it’s just for fun. I rarely chat women up unless I’ve danced with them quite a bit. I still get hit on a fair amount anyway, by single and occasionally by married women. Some are in my social circle.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 11:06 am Greg Eliot

      Damn, man… does every post you make have to invoke the aura of a Turkish bathhouse?

      Feh.

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  19. on June 16, 2014 at 4:49 pm christianmorris

    Another point, also from the gay scene: always ask yourself, in your head, when is the blowjob coming?

    If I’m not having my cock sucked, or if it’s not imminent, then I need to immediately ask, why?

    I love anal but a good bj is as good, in its own way.

    If it’s not happening, it’s your fault. Analyse why.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:10 pm Zombie Shane

      OMG, I just mentioned this movie above – “Enduring Love”.

      I’ll bet it’s your favorite movie of all time.

      You’ve probably watched it 1000 times and memorized all the lines.

      LOL’ed.

      Fucking UK faggots.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:34 pm Chris from Dublin

        No.
        Also, I’m not a UK faggot …

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:27 pm Zombie Shane

        Southern Irish Drunk faggot?

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 10:54 am Greg Eliot

      Unlike in the mainstream media, which has obviously gulled you into thinking anything says/anything goes/anywhere/any time…

      that Brokeass Mountin’ shit doesn’t fly here at the chateau.

      Avaunt, thou sultry queer goat!

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  20. on June 16, 2014 at 4:52 pm FIL-AM

    Email#2 ” needy ex-gf”, she’s still in-love with you.

    Don’t play too much of games it doesnt work, if you still want her make a move.

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  21. on June 16, 2014 at 5:06 pm theasdgamer

    1) Value Shit Test – “Why are you talking to me?”

    [cocky grin] “I tried talking to a mirror, but I kept getting distracted by my own awesomeness.”

    “You’re right, we should dance and talk.” [won’t work if you’re a loser who can’t dance]

    “I’m trying you out as my new wingwoman.”

    2) Comfort Shit Test – “Why are you talking to me?”

    “I’m seeking the meaning of life and you seemed like a seeker, too.”

    It totally redirects her mind. You can use this to transition into soul-mating, etc.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 5:14 pm Anonymous

      Yep, you got the right idea thanks for the examples.

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  22. on June 16, 2014 at 5:33 pm Scray

    So, I’ve decided that the best time to give the ‘I’m not looking for a relationship’ speech is before the smash. I kno it’s probably shooting myself in the foot, but it’s for my conscience.

    Smashed that 7 from the FR two weeks ago. I told her all of the above before we did anything, and she said she understood. Idk, she’s pretty young.

    The 19 y/o SNL from months ago keeps texting me….

    If it’s possible, let girls down with the ‘I think we should be friends,’ line. If only because pre-selection becomes so easy to demonstrate when you have several messages from girls.

    Plus, if you can bring up a hot girl you used to sleep with in conversation and show a picture of her (just do it in an ‘omg she looks like such a goober’), you can really intimidate whoever you’re with.

    Went to a dance club with bros, made out with several girls almost instantly. Now I just go for it….like, as soon as I walk by and a girl grabs me or I fall into her orbit and she’s close……I don’t even say anything. So, you guys on the dancefloor….if you’re close and she’s close, just shut the fuck up and make out.

    Annnnnnnyway…
    At the pool and notice a smokin 8 latina chick there. I don’t see them that often.
    These days my cold approach opener is very mundane with the ‘I’m hitting on you’ sub-communication.

    Me: Hey……..(she’s standing there in the pool)
    Her: (looks over)
    Me: (smirk) Nice weather, huh?

    Almost universally the same reaction — a kind of bashful smile or laugh.

    Her: Yeah, it’s all right.
    Me: Nah, it looks pretty good to me.
    Her: (she’s shaking her head and laughing)
    Me: What?
    Her: What kind of a dork talks to a girl about the weather?
    Me: You’re right, let’s talk about why I waded over here….you just look so……smart.
    Her: Psh…
    Me: …and independent.

    Anyway blah blah blah we talk. Here’s the key fax —
    I make sure to massively drop the ‘I’m not a provider’ bombs. I mean, to the point where maybe I’m coming off a little like a scumbag…who cares?

    I get the number and just plan a day 2.
    (it’s mostly because I’m not sure about how to handle SNL/SDL’s…..my buyer’s remorse/ASD game isn’t as solid as I’d like in this regard….I like retention)

    So, she seems interested.—txts…
    Me: Ya we should hang out soon
    Her: Definitely, Mr. Scray
    (and then I just left it hanging! So stupid I didn’t set a date at all because I Just got caught up in other shit aaaaargh….thankfully 1 day later)
    Her:…..so when?
    Me: My place thurs at 9
    Her: Lol nice try
    (don’t want to push so I relent)
    Me: X bar thurs at 9 then
    Her: Uggggh I hate bars!

    ——

    usually they get on board for the bar. She’s being difficult. Should I just press for the bar, or should I think of some other cheap date. The cons of another cheap date is that it will probably be harder to get her to my place.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:39 pm immoralgables

      Hey man nice work.

      I would say just disarm whatever guard she has up. If that means don’t do a bar right off the bar then don’t do a bar. If that means take her to a park after and just be chill and get to know her (while subtlety escalating) then do that.

      Based on her blueprint so far just feel her out and do what it takes. I feel like Latinas want it to be more “proper” even if they know the pretext is sex.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:40 pm immoralgables

      Altho I think u could come over the top with a “Sheesh, miss high maintenance huh. Cya at xyz @ 9p ; ) “

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 6:44 am The Burninator

      Classic shit test. She wants you to make the decision, then rejects every decision you make to see if you’ll stick to your guns. If you accommodate her with a list of “Ok, how about here? No? How about here instead” it’s playing into her hands aka fail.

      Immoralgables has the right answer: “Altho I think u could come over the top with a “Sheesh, miss high maintenance huh. Cya at xyz @ 9p ; ) “”

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:00 pm Scray

      Thanks for the suggestions, guys.

      Me: But you love me, so it’ll be ok.
      (Took a big risk with this one, and I probably should have used IG’s….lol)
      Her: Fine. I’m just warning you that I hate bars.
      Me: Noted, see you there.
      Her: Okay 🙂

      —-

      Time to really take my own advice with this chick and amp up the aggression I think. She’s 23, so I mean….I don’t think I have a huge margin for error. She’s in her prime, yo.

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  23. on June 16, 2014 at 6:06 pm English Dude

    A bit off topic, but sat this article today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27831626#

    Forget sex contracts, Men should now apparently ask for explicit permission before kissing a woman..

    Note this part:
    “At the trial of Conservative MP Nigel Evans earlier this year, the court was told that he had tried to kiss someone, been rebuffed, and had backed off. This was regarded by the Crown Prosecution Service as potentially criminal. Evans was acquitted.”

    Fortunately he was acquitted, but “potentially criminal”, for going in for a kiss, and BACKING OFF when rejected. Because rape!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 9:02 pm Rum

      Under the rules of the proposed “New Insanity” the only solid, admise-able evidence of her righteous consent would have to be in a written form. And how would not that end up on the Internet?

      “I, Suxy Creamcheese, am explicitly eager to enjoy the defilement of all my orifices and sensibilities; until the morning sun appears, or we sober up (whichever comes first?..) with – “whats your name again”… ?

      Poetry like that is just meant to be shared.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:10 pm gunslingergregi

        hhahahahahaahahha
        i’m gonna have to start videotaping bitches who try to rape me its only fair

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  24. on June 16, 2014 at 6:10 pm Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs | Reaction Times

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  25. on June 16, 2014 at 6:33 pm rusty

    Here’s a new shit test i came across- I’ve been flirting with this girl, and shes agreed to come over for wine, everything is going great so far until when I ask her about the world cup she says out of the blue “my boyfriend thinks I’m weird haha”

    This must be a new strain of super shit testing… Rate my reply: “you’re so funny.”

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 6:46 pm theasdgamer

      Meh, this is a gimme. Your reply was fine. She was totally into you. She’s looking for an excuse to ditch her bf. You need to figure out why, then say, “Yeah, you’re looking to upgrade because X.”

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 6:49 pm English Dude

        Aye, they feel that mentioning it, even if just in random bit of conversation absolves them of any responsibility of cheating. Because she TOTALLY told you she has a BF already! So if she ended up fucking you, that was YOUR fault, YOU took advantage of her, while you already knew she had a bf! etc..

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:16 pm Zombie Shane

        DANGER WILL ROBINSON.

        As above, cheaters cheat.

        That’s their nature – it’s who they are.

        If she’ll cheat on him, then it’s only a matter of time until she cheats on you.

        Do NOT allow yourself to develop feelings for her.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:31 pm whorefinder

        disagree. Don’t even respond to it; immediately go into another subject. Don’t let her dwindle on her bf for a moment, or her ASD goes up /she gets feeling guilty.

        His response was good. I would myself have just made a fart noise with my mouth, bit her on the neck, and poured her another drink.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:40 pm Zombie Shane

        > “and poured her another drink”

        All fine and dandy for a good pump-n-dump.

        But NEVER allow yourself to develop feelings for a cheater.

        It will ruin you.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:47 pm theasdgamer

        WF, it worked for me, but I always assume that a woman who has a bf and is talking to me is looking to trade up. And, of course, I’m superior to most any bf–being narcissistic and all. It’s understood that she’s moving from beta to alpha or from lesser alpha to greater.

        And it depends on context. A woman with a bf isolated me in a bar–I didn’t isolate her. I always work from a strong frame. Women chase me.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:24 pm rusty

      solid replies you guys, this is why i lurk here all the time.
      A follow up:
      her: “i feel like that was sarcasm”
      what do?

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm whorefinder

        “i feel like touching your boobies”

        then do so. and kiss her quickly to avoid protest.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 7:38 pm rusty

        you realize this is over text now? I should have specified.. We’ve already hooked up, and been texting about meeting up this week and then out of the blue the bf comes up. Keep in mind, she initiated and displays all the typical IOIs

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:32 pm Zombie Shane

        Who, me? Sarcasm? Pshaw.

        [Or Pffft or Get outta here or whatever.]

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:51 pm theasdgamer

        I already told you, she’s looking to ditch her bf. He has some issue she doesn’t like. Ask a few probing questions to find out what it is, then proceed as I already outlined.

        Been there, done that, it works.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:54 pm theasdgamer

        Probing question: I’m only sarcastic because I don’t have a shot with you, your bf being so perfect and all. Ur lucky to have him. He treats you so well.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:23 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

      My reply off the top of my head would have been ‘so you have imaginary friends too?! I knew you had something to make up for X’ where X would be something silly she has done earlier and I teased her about.

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  26. on June 16, 2014 at 6:35 pm Amy

    I’m sure you’ve seen this, but just ini case:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-college-become-the-victims-of-progressivism/2014/06/06/e90e73b4-eb50-11e3-9f5c-9075d5508f0a_story.html

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:22 pm cryo

      “Now academia is unhappy about the Education Department’s plan for government to rate every institution’s educational product.”

      Ha! It gets better every day, I swear. CH, any room left over there poolside? I’ll bring my own chair.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm Will

      @amy when you get time read through my reply on the thread from the last CH post

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 1:46 pm Amy

      George Will went off the rails with the “privileged” victim status comment, which is too bad because his overall point is a very important one. I am still waiting for the day when reasonable people sit down and put the PC bullshit aside to have an honest non-accusatory discussion about “date rape” on college campuses, and what men AND WOMEN can do to reduce risks.

      [CH: george will was right. “””date rape””” is overblown hype to make ugly broads feel desired.]

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 2:32 pm Amy

        Not always, which is the point. He wants to keep the definition narrow to PREVENT it from becoming overblown hype. I agree with him that colleges should stay the hell out of it and let the police handle the reporting and investigation. That by itself would solve a lot of problems.

        [CH: it already is overblown hype and has been for a long time. ps: ladies, stop drinking so much at frat parties. 9/10s of the “””problem””” solved right there.]

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:15 pm Amy

        Agreed. Still, it is illegal to have sex with a girl so drunk she’s unconscious. Proof problems aside, this doesn’t seem like a lot to ask.

        [CH: even that caveat is open to dispute. for instance, if the man is just as drunk as the girl, then, like her, he is incapable of giving or of recognizing consent. bottom line: if girls want to avoid regret rape, they have a personal responsibility to avoid the conditions which make regret rape a possibility. yet, funny how you don’t see many girls take this sensible advice. things that make you go hmm….]

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:30 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

        If I was to ever be tried for date rape, I will file rape charges against her too because I can’t remember a single event in my life where I had sex with a tipsy girl where I wasn’t tipsy too.

        Regarding your request, it’s not that hard to reduce the risk of being date raped. Don’t drink until you pass out and don’t go wander to parties without friends if you plan to drink until you can’t unbutton your jeans when you want to pee. This is common sensical crap every girl in my country knows. Consequently, I don’t know a single girl or heard of any girl that is a friend of friends of friends that was date raped. Not doing this is as stupid as parking your new BMW in some ghetto with the keys in the ignition and I won’t feel sorry at all for the volunteers. Sure, if you screw girls who are so drunk they resemble comatosed people, you need to be kept away from society and you have severe issues. Maybe try a graveyard and use a microwave on your finds next time.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:36 pm Amy

        “if girls want to avoid regret rape, they have a personal responsibility to avoid the conditions which make regret rape a possibility.”

        Look, I agree with you but it isn’t always absolute. Sometimes both parties have fault. It’s the unconscious girl’s fault for drinking to oblivion but that doesn’t absolve the guy who knows she’s comatose but plows ahead anyway. It’s like the white guy flashing money and an iphone in a bad neighborhood at 2 a.m. He’s an idiot asking for trouble, but the thug that hits him and runs is still a bad guy.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:54 pm theasdgamer

        Amy, if the man was more drunk than the woman, then he can claim that he was raped, right?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:37 pm Canadian Friend

        Women only want equality with men when they get some benefits, some advantage from it.

        Saying a drunk man is equal to a drunk woman; that they are both equally victim of rape since they are both drunk and neither of them knew what they were doing does not benefit females thus in this case equality is temporary ignored by females until the next battle.

        They want females to have the equal right of being completely drunk like men, but they do not want the responsibility or accountability that comes with it.

        And we are supposed to take such irrational, dishonest, immature, self centered creatures seriously?

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm Scray

      http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/10/sexual_assault_and_drinking_teach_women_the_connection.2.html

      some common sense right churr. As ‘red pill’ as any MSM outlet will get.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm Amy

        Great article! Thanks for that.

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  27. on June 16, 2014 at 6:40 pm Joshua Sinistar

    Sorry, guys. You know the Rules, but you don’t know how this Game is played. This isn’t a Shit Test. Its an Ultimatum. The tip off is when he says she didn’t really see where their relationship was going and broke up with him. Women are not like men, they don’t have a mind of their own. They’re herd animals like cows. Ever notice how if you’re out with your friends and their girls, that they all head to the bathroom at the same time? What the Hell? Are you telling me they all timed their bladders to have to go simultaneously? Don’t give me that! These women take 3 hours to do their hair, and another hour to pick out what they’re gonna wear, and then bitch about you wanting to watch the last 15 minutes of the game because she’s an hour late! These women don’t even seem to understand the concept of Time!
    The fact she came back shows that she just wanted a Concession, like going exclusive, or even an Engagement. You see, women hate getting older, which happens shortly after they’re born, and when your woman sees her friends getting Engaged or Married, then The Old Ball and Chain comes out. Like going to the “powder room”, Marriages happens at about the same time. The first one of a group of women that gets Engaged or Married, starts a feeding frenzy for Marital Bliss. Always keep an eye out for her friends getting Engaged and Married, because this is when she’s going to start pressuring you for a “Commitment”!

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm gunslingergregi

      babies are like that one woman gets preggers they all get preggers

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:41 pm ballocaust

      “You see, women hate getting older, which happens shortly after they’re born,”

      a female benjamin button would supplant eat/pray/love in the annals of chickcrack

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:34 pm Zombie Shane

        > “a female benjamin button would supplant eat/pray/love in the annals of chickcrack”

        Hundreds of jews in Hollyweird are now slapping themselves upside the head, and saying, “OMG, why didn’t I think of that?!?”

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:00 pm Anonymous

        Lmfao COTW. Please, please , please.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:49 am Greg Eliot

        Beyond The Valley Of The D(r)olls… well-played, sir.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:32 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

      One more reason women past the age of 25 are lame.

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  28. on June 16, 2014 at 6:53 pm Will

    Question: if you are involved with a smoking hot chick who reciprocates the interest and she is younger than you, but you know that you have to move away for work or school. Is it best to cut the ties?

    Because it seems like a huge distraction from your ‘mission’. As in when you move away and work a lot you’ll get put into the ‘”long distance”‘ style relationship which has so many negative aspects it’s retarded to do almost.

    Cut ties?

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:24 pm Zombie Shane

      Three possibilities:

      1) Move and cut all ties. For good.

      2) Move and bring her along with you as your wife [or at least as your pregnant girlfriend].

      3) Don’t move. Give up whatever it was which you might have moved for, and instead stay with her [again, as your wife, or at least as your pregnant girlfriend].

      But do NOT get involved in any of that “long range” bullshit under any circumstances.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:33 pm ballocaust

      don’t do LDR
      have fun, end amicably, then proceed on mission.
      better than straight ghosting as FBs have a habit of reappearing in your life down the line

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:52 pm gunslingergregi

      could have her come with you could tell her to wait and don’t date whatever you want

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 8:37 pm Zombie Shane

        > “tell her to wait and don’t date”

        That’s some cruel shit right there.

        Don’t be that Evil.

        If she’s The One, then put a bun in her oven.

        If not, then move on.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 9:44 pm Will

        Ok wtf?

        I honestly haven’t heard of her “coming with you” that’s from the 60s.

        and put a bun in her oven? Most girls will get abortions these days…

        and….that would fuck me over and make the relationship worse…

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:17 pm gunslingergregi

        my chick is begging to come to indo with me i may allow her to go
        “shrugs”
        yea i guess not the 60’s
        its the gregi greg era
        he he he

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 10:20 pm gunslingergregi

        my bitch stopped doing crack and heroin so she could be able to come with me and still be involved in my life when i leave

        excuses are like assholes everyone has one and they all stink

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:01 am The Spirit Within

        Zombie, the fact that you’re using the phrase “The One” lets everyone know to scroll right past your inane comments…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:39 am Hugh G. Rection

        “The One” does not exist, only “The next one”.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:46 am Greg Eliot

        Don’t worry, Zombie… those of us who have known the love of a good and faithful woman, worthy of bearing our children, know what you mean by “The One”.

        So telling that the (Lack of) Spirit Within (who never did and never will find a devoted love worthy of reciprocation) is ready to chime in with his usual dreck, and then accuse others of inanity.

        I fell right sorry for these hambones.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 8:16 am The Spirit Within

        Oh the irony: the hate-filled Greg Eliot is lecturing me on love…

        …and without a speck of knowledge about my personal life.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:44 am Greg Eliot

        Don’t need direct experience with you personally… I can tell from the way you talk and handle yourself.

        “By their fruits shall ye know them.”

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:41 pm blindman

        “Don’t worry, Zombie… those of us who have known the love of a good and faithful woman, worthy of bearing our children, know what you mean by “The One”.”

        Truth

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:34 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

      From my personal experience, it worked out well to end things as friends. Don’t do the long distance relationship crap. It will ruin whatever memories you have of her.

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  29. on June 16, 2014 at 6:55 pm The Undiscovered Jew

    I’d bet that sluts release less oxytocin than normal women do during lovemaking, which means the hard slut is less likely to emotionally bond when she’s spermally bonded.

    Slut behavior is masculinized. Their sex drives are higher than other girls, they have vaguely “male” facial structure (such as ‘manjaw’*) and they move from relationship to relationship with less emotional damage than the girlish mean.

    *Girls with the most delicate facial features are often the least sexually adventurous.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm CH

      that’s been my very general observation (bolstered by some experience) too. but there is a caveat: a fairly ubiquitous exception to this rule is the extremely feminine girl (think hepburn-esque) who plays men like fiddles and does enjoy a rather varied and exciting sex life, primarily owing to the lure of her exquisite beauty coupled with a manipulative and impulsive personality. in a long ago post, CH called these women eternal ingenues.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 12:51 am blindman

        the eternal ingenue is my achilles heel. what you say is true. they are pure animal passion disguised as femininity, sweetness and child-like innocence. they are the devil incarnate.

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/how-to-handle-femmes-fatales-part-2a/

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:46 am thrust

        Read that ‘eternal ingenues’ post a few days back. For about the 20th time.

        If it wasn’t for that post, there wouldn’t have been a way to mentally put up with the last 2 years of my life.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 1:35 pm Tilikum

        eternal ingenues= the only girls that can turn my head at this point.

        its a fucking power struggle curse.

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 7:15 pm oralcummings

      Rihanna?

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    • on June 16, 2014 at 8:29 pm The Undiscovered Jew

      but there is a caveat: a fairly ubiquitous exception to this rule is the extremely feminine girl (think hepburn-esque) who plays men like fiddles and does enjoy a rather varied and exciting sex life, primarily owing to the lure of her exquisite beauty coupled with a manipulative and impulsive personality. in a long ago post, CH called these women eternal ingenues.

      I’ve always thought Hepburn-esque ingenues have tom boyish appearances but with more feminized facial structure than regular tom boys.

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      • on June 16, 2014 at 11:00 pm CH

        it’s the short hair that’s throwing you. check out pics of long-haired hepburn. she was feminine beauty personified.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 1:32 pm Col Nicholson

        Couldn’t agree more. See Hepburn in “The Philadelphia Story.”
        Her character’s name? . . Tracy Lord.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 6:07 pm The Undiscovered Jew

        check out pics of long-haired hepburn. she was feminine beauty personified.

        You’re correct. Long hair gives her a mysterious aura I don’t associate with TomBoys.

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  30. on June 16, 2014 at 7:13 pm n/a

    Important post about the nature and point of wars and the long, savagely stale peace:

    http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-37154.html

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  31. on June 16, 2014 at 7:34 pm Aubrey LaVentana

    “Her: You remind me of my ex boyfriend (playfully)”
    *He told me you’d say that.
    *Above the waist, perhaps . . .

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 6:25 am The Burninator

      That’s a take on the old Fletch movie.

      “She said I reminded her of you. From the waist up I assume.”

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  32. on June 16, 2014 at 8:09 pm gunslingergregi

    the prob with all the reader emails is not going for the fuck

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  33. on June 16, 2014 at 8:17 pm Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs | TinderNews

    […] Here is the original post: Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened Up Her Thighs […]

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  34. on June 16, 2014 at 8:27 pm BuenaVista

    Case Study/Email #2: ex-gf re-establishes contact.

    I follow a ‘never explain never complain’ protocol with breakups, so this is actually a fairly common situation for me. Most ex-gf’s circle back. “Hey howya doing what’s new where are ya this week …”

    My view is that plain, cold logic must be applied: there’s only one reason why the ex-gf indulges in some passive-aggressive texting: she wants . So: plain cold logic suggests: reply to some subset of her emails, but if you’re still interested, quickly cut directly to the chase and arrange something.

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  35. on June 16, 2014 at 10:13 pm Mustbeabitterbasmentdwellerheylookoverthere

    ‘I also tend to avoid bringing up my career w girls i meet unless asked.’
    So you bring it up 99.99% of the time. And 90% of that time, the first thing asked.

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  36. on June 16, 2014 at 10:16 pm Mr Meaner

    Heartiste,

    What’s the best way to game a girl who already likes you but is massively intimidated by you? I know there’s beta reassurance game etc but I’ve never really seen any specific advice on when the girl thinks your SMV is higher than hers and this then manifests itself in her behaviour, making hooking up a nightmare.

    Quite a few girls I’ve hooked up with told me down the track that they purposely had a bitch shield up in the beginning because they were intimidated. They even purposely rejected getting together, either to get some hand, or because they wanted the first meeting/ hook up to be perfect and for some reason felt it wasn’t at that particular moment. I’ve had more than one ex-lover tell me that she originally rejected a catch-up because she felt fat and wanted to lose weight before I saw her naked the first time.

    It doesn’t seem to me that these girls are way below my SMV, although there could be a chance I’ve misjudged that. So what gives?

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:13 pm theasdgamer

      This is often a problem for naturals. Women will disqualify themselves if they can’t believe that you would be interested in them. I see it All. The. Time.

      Just reassure, encourage, persist, smile. Take her hand and just hold it without doing anything except talking. Get her to talk a lot to release nervous energy. Tease her lightly when she says dorky stuff to let her know that you’re engaged in what she’s saying.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:15 pm CH

        yes, and if the SMV differential is big (but you still want to fuck her) you could even DLV (self-deprecate) to put her at ease and increase your attainability. e.g., “You make me really nervous. I can’t believe I’m sitting here talking with you.”

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 7:36 am theasdgamer

        Look for ways to demonstrate connection with her–common interests, age, education, whatever. Ask deep rapport questions to aid this, too.

        If she’s bitchy, just let her wound you and be vulnerable about how she hurt you. She’ll want to comfort you and that will open up emotional connections.

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  37. on June 16, 2014 at 11:30 pm anonYmous

    One thing that I have found in life is that the harder I work the less likely the lay is going to happen. If a woman has 5 guys that are sexually perusing her its unlikely that she will respond to anything I do if she is not attracted to me. So if she is throwin out shit tests and pinging you infrequently then chances are you have some competition. If a girl is really into you or does not have any serious sexual pursuers then you will get a good text ratio of 3:2 or more, and almost no shit tests and they respond well to teasing and sexualization. If a chick does not have any guys sexually perusing her she wont really shit test you but you will get quasi fast non effort responses. Turn up the teasing, and sexualize. See if you can get her to reciprocate. If that dont work resort to alcohol. Take her to a party or get a few drinks in her. BTW CH said that if a chick isnt messaging you when shes drunk she probably isnt into you. Women secretly like to know they are leaving their x’s worse off. So when she pings you chances are anything but “can i come over” or something similar is just a ploy. Just give her ur address and leave it at that, dont invest anything other then that.

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  38. on June 16, 2014 at 11:45 pm Tristan

    Here is my theory on sluts:

    Firstly, it is important to see why sluts are the way they are. I don’t think they are bad people, in the sense that is often portrayed in the manosphere. Rather, there are two kinds. The first is the feminazi slut who openly embraces her sluttitude, but outside of America these are in a minority. Sluts are mostly stupid young girls with low barriers. They see a guy they like and they go with their emotions, then they backwards rationalize. And this happens over and over throughout the years until they realize their notch-counts have gone over 50.

    Girls with low notch-counts will inevitably have serious barriers when dealing with men. They will be attracted to a man, but will fight against the instinct, that is why they have low notch-counts. Most of these girls will likely flake on you anyway, so mostly players will be dealing with sluts (which is most of the female gender). If this girl does fall, she will fall harder and for longer. But, only once the man has made it into having sex with her, and she will bond through that. (more bonding through sex, less bonding through emotional connection).

    Sluts on the other hand operate a lot like players do. To understand the mind of a slut, just look inside yourself, the psychology is eerily similar. Once you have slept with 50 girls, you see women in patterns, and you group them. When you think back on the girls, many will seem indistinguishable to you, and each individual one means essentially nothing. But, at the same time, there are one or two that stick out immensely from the rest. Those girls were different from the rest in the way they emotionally comminicated with you, and probably in physique aswell (think more beautiful, or taller, or with some physical characteristic that made them “unclassifiable”).

    The reason these girls stick out so much is because they affected us in a way that other girls couldn’t, they had something that we hadn’t had before. Maybe a particular vulnerablity, sweetness… Therefore we pairbonded to them, but not through sex. Sluts don’t pairbond through sex, as that mechanism has been destroyed. They only pairbond in other ways which most men cannot elicit. They fall in love in a similar way to how men fall in love.

    For a slut to fall in love with you, you must be different from other men in both physique and personality. Your connection game must be tops (vulnerability, eliciting vulnerability, emotional unattainability mixed with minor hints of attainability, empathy, drama…).

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  39. on June 17, 2014 at 12:08 am Anonymous

    Btw, CH, did you recently knock someone up? Because the pun in your article title is 1000% dad joke level lol… Maybe Greg Eliot is influencing you too much…

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 7:48 am Greg Eliot

      You say that as if it’s a bad thing?

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    • on June 18, 2014 at 2:00 am AlmostAnonymous

      Nah, it’s a take off of the the lyrics of this song:

      Ace of Base: The Sign

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  40. on June 17, 2014 at 1:33 am Reader Mailbag: I Saw The Signs And It Opened U...

    […] Email #1: “Steve” sincerely asks, Important question: Can sluts fall in love? Absolutely. But they can also fall out of love. And they do both more easily than non-sluts.  […]

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  41. on June 17, 2014 at 1:37 am Glengarry

    TV guy #5, work on your inner game. Your outer status is higher than your inner status, if you see what I mean.

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  42. on June 17, 2014 at 5:41 am anotheronetakesthepill

    -you remind me of my ex
    -the one buried under your bed? … that smell

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  43. on June 17, 2014 at 6:02 am Jack H

    “You remind me of my ex bf”

    “Lucky him”

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  44. on June 17, 2014 at 6:06 am walawala

    Her: You remind me of my ex boyfriend (playfully)

    You: You remind me of the woman who comes over once a week to clean my apartment…I should call her…

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:16 pm theasdgamer

      Her: You remind me of my ex boyfriend (playfully)

      You: [cocky grin] You remind me of my ex boyfriend, too. Oh, I didn’t tell you that I’m gay?

      Her: [laughing, hits you] You’re not gay.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 7:54 am theasdgamer

        Following up my previous brilliance (yes, I am sooo awesome):

        You: Sure I am. I’ll prove to you that I have no desire to kiss you. [moves head into kiss zone and hangs out there, moving lips closer, then away, always grinning cockily, then finally out of the kiss zone] See?

        Her: Try that again. [You move into the kiss zone and she locks lips with you for a bit. You break the kiss off after a couple of seconds and withdraw out of the kiss zone.]

        You: [looking serious] I guess that wasn’t too bad. Not enough passion to really be interesting, though. Surely you’re not expecting a little two-second kiss will convince me to go straight….

        Her: Ok, let’s try it again. [She kisses you passionately for about ten seconds, then you break it off.]

        You: [smiling] That _was_ interesting. But, you know, I really don’t know what to do after that. So, I guess I’ll see you later….

        Her: Wait! Where are you going?

        Etc. She’s chasing you. She’s enjoying the fantasy of making a gay guy go straight, which reinforces her sexual potency. ASD gone. LMR gone.

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  45. on June 17, 2014 at 6:07 am anotheronetakesthepill

    looks like CH needs some antispam plugin lately

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  46. on June 17, 2014 at 6:20 am Opus

    Being the possessor of a slut-dar I can attest as to No.1: like other girls think that their Prince will come even though they are cock-jockeys; not being used to more than pump and dump it is easy to persuade them that you are that Prince. They tend to be good in bed, and the more sex you give them the more they fall for you. They dream of marriage; they dream of putting their past behind them (now that after having savoured 309 flavours of baskin-robbins they have found The One). They are, however, being sluts used to getting everything they want when they want and have no staying power or sense of exactly what commitment means, and so as my interest wanes their behaviour becomes increasingly bizarre. It is at that point one has to dispose of them. I suppose they jump back on the carousel.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 1:39 pm Tilikum

      a millions times this…..outstanding post.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:46 pm Pijama Wearing Ninja

      rofl, that’s so much like an ex of mine. I still bang her at times despite her having a ‘serious boyfriend’ now and I tease her about how he’s her prince charming and they’ll live happily ever after. I don’t know if she doesn’t perceive the irony of me telling her that after I cum in her or if she does and she simply takes it.

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 12:31 am gunslingergregi

        that’s so dirty lol

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  47. on June 17, 2014 at 6:37 am walawala

    A 26 year old hot girl I’ve been gaming is giving me major IOI’s. She has a bf so I never k-closed. But whenever I see her she’s gushing and giggling, kino.

    What’s confusing me is this seems much stronger than just “friendly” attention, it’s IOI’s. She helped me clean up after my party and came out to my farewell dinner for the artists—looking smoking hot, sat beside me and I gamed her all night. One weird thing—when it came time to split the bill she claimed she had no money and would pay back the collector next week. Some of the other girls at the table said to me later she expected me to pay for helping me—but that was clearly not the case.

    She also has a bf according to her FB page and once previously she helped me clean up and was with this dude who barely spoke while her and I cleaned up wine glasses and laughed about it.

    I would normally escalate but the bf thing is throwing me for a loop.

    I’ve gone long-game. I see her once every few weeks and she’s always keen and gives IOI’s.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 9:33 am Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Isolate her the next time you’re together and amp up the kino. She’ll no doubt mention her boyfriend as a Hail Mary just before you move in for the kill. Lock eyes, work that smirk and tell her in a deep voice, “It’s time for an upgrade.” Close the distance with your lips, and fuck her like you’re gonna die tomorrow.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 10:24 am walawala

        will report back…

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 9:49 pm walawala

        Gunslinger: China

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      • on June 18, 2014 at 12:29 am gunslingergregi

        why you going after obvious city chicks get you a nice chick from the country

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:19 pm theasdgamer

      She wants validation for dumping her current bf. Figure out why she wants to dump him.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:01 pm walawala

        @adsgamer when we see each other we have a great time but normally we’re not in touch because of the bf thing. What signs indicate what you say?

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 5:15 pm gunslingergregi

        walawala what country are you in?

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  48. on June 17, 2014 at 6:39 am Mandros

    “How do you differentiate between genuine interest and her showing interest in hopes of your attention/making you an orbiter?”

    I got a similar situation but with a twist and could use some advice.

    HB 8 at work is very friendly with me, and we have a good rapport. She loves my work and compliments me and to other on it, so I have some DHV going on. Last year this chick literally turned around to watch me go past and gave me an effusive compliment about how good red looked on me.

    I am naturally relaxed around her, and my default is to tease her in a non-sexual way. She does the standard IOI like playfully punching me, laughing at my jokes, touching me, etc.

    I shrugged and attributed it to general attraction and flirting or just being friendly, but my gut says its a bit more. The other day while going over some notes, she got particularly close to me while explaining something. I thought, “hmmm”, and leaned in toward her and her arm continually touched mine while she was ‘splaining.

    Thing is, she knows I’ve been attached and for the first time since we’ve really known each other, she mentioned a boyfriend (the same day she got close). Yet, I still think she’s probing me (heh). I think she’s dating some hipster type and I may be a bit more…masculine which intrigues her.

    My issue is two-fold;

    I had my years of being a Beta-Orbiter. I have no interest in being one for anyone under any circumstances ever again. So, since I would like to see where this might lead, and in any event I am not going to stand for being viewed as neutered by her, I need to escalate in some way to make that clear.

    Two, being a politically correct work environment, one has to be wary of sexual innuendo and behavior. She seems cool, but I view every woman as a potential problem if you hit the wrong button.

    Any hints for escalating with her while keeping it low key? I am enjoying the idea of playing this game but don’t need to blow up a good job to do it.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 7:05 am The Spirit Within

      Don’t.

      There are 4 billion women on this earth. No need to jeopardize your hard-earned career for some pink.

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 7:27 am Lara

        Agreed. There are plenty of women out there, but good jobs are hard to come by. It’s not worth risking a steady income for someone you likely won’t care about 6 months from now.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 7:50 am Lara

      Mandros
      “I am not going to stand for being viewed as neutered by her”

      You need to neuter her. She’s creating a sexually charged environment, and you’re just trying to do your job. She’s the one who is wrong here.

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:39 pm gunslingergregi

      that is how almost every dude high up the chain gets taken out is by a woman and usually the woman would fuck them for a while even and then it would come out she got mad he didn’t do enough for her at work maybe or another bitch would turn them in
      you should use them to take out your competition but not to actually use them for anything else
      sounds like she is higher on the chain then you document her advances and get her for sexual harassment
      make you some money
      actually for guys without the typical moral hindrances
      you should have a woman you trust get blatantly sexually harassed by you and split the cash
      take advantage of the system that’s what it is there for

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:42 pm gunslingergregi

        or toy with a weak dude in cahoots with a bitch and tell him sally likes him a lot make the shit happen split loot

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:46 pm gunslingergregi

        really best way to put that extra lining in your pocket is just keep your eye out for woman like this sexually harassing you and when it happens take action make them dollars or get that free promotion
        I never did say shit but my working life yea sexualy harassed a lot
        and I always promised myself not to fuck with bitches at work so I wouldn’t have any extra hasles

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      • on June 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm gunslingergregi

        so just another example of real life being totally diferent than the evil men harassing the poor little woman for sex if ya don’t want shit to do with them outside of working woman are the ones who froth at the mouth
        plus they manipulate the shit for free benefits

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  49. on June 17, 2014 at 7:35 am The Burninator

    Her: “You remind me of my ex.”
    Me: “You remind me of him too”

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  50. on June 17, 2014 at 10:47 am Greg Eliot

    “You remind me of my ex.”

    “You remind me of my next.”

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 3:21 pm theasdgamer

      There’s an echo in here.

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  51. on June 17, 2014 at 11:03 am key

    “you remind me of my ex”

    “You don’t remind me of anyone.”

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    • on June 17, 2014 at 12:33 pm The Burninator

      That’s fantastic, a real hamster super turbo food. You get a stone cold statement that she’s inane and boring, which you can easily turn around into a “I meant that in a good way”. Delivery would be key.

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  53. on June 17, 2014 at 2:02 pm AlphaBeta

    The beautiful thing about shit tests: even if you don’t pass them, the laws of male/female dynamics say that each shit test *from* a girl can be equal to a neg *to* a girl. So a “you remind me of my ex” shit test from a girl can be a “you remind me of my ex” neg to a girl. Real genius lies in flipping it right on the spot: “I remind you of your ex? Funny… My ex used to say that all the time” though that’s extremely tricky (for me anyway).

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  54. on June 17, 2014 at 8:40 pm Bluepillprofessor

    “You remind me of my ex.”

    “I remind you of a guy who gave you an orgasm? Lucky you.”

    If she denies the ex ever gave her an orgasm you have her right where you want. Ask: “Why not?” Lets you start talking about sex which is likely what she means by the “Ex-Boyfriend.” Girls don’t usually call ONS or FWB’s “Boyfriends” or “Ex’s” so she has already told you she had sex with him more than once.

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    http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html

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    –3partners 39%
    –4 partners 41%
    –5-15 partners 29%
    –16-20 partners 17%

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