If you’re a single man plowing the field, which result would be more aggravating and distressing?
– You see an attractive girl on the sidewalk, say hi to her, but don’t get her number.
vs
– You see an attractive girl, say hi to her, get her number, but she flakes at the last minute before your scheduled date.
How about this scenario?
– You meet an attractive girl, say hi to her, but don’t get her number.
vs
– You meet an attractive girl, say hi to her, talk, get her number, go on three dates during which you drop $100 in drinks and more in lost time, energy and economic opportunity, and miss out on sex because she decided it wasn’t “working out” sometime between the end of the third date and your hoped-for fourth date fireworks.
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If men are honest with themselves, they will nearly unanimously answer that result #2 in each of the above scenarios would be far more distressing and emotionally draining than the relatively minor setback of result #1 (not getting a number after saying hi).
Game — or if you haughtily prefer, “practiced charisma” — is the most effective defense against the morale exhausting defeat of result #2, and similar outcomes. This is where game shines, where it really flexes its muscle: In that tentative courtship dance between the first twinkle in her eye and the last moan from her throat.
Game won’t get you number closes from every hot girl you see on the street, but it will increase your number-to-lay ratio considerably, saving you time and effort that would otherwise be wasted if you didn’t have the know-how and skills to successfully seduce a girl from mild curiosity to inflamed passion.
When we calculate the value of game, we must include all these variables, not just the percentage of meetings that you turn into number closes. The value of game to you, besides making you more instantly attractive, is also all the flakes that never happened, all the dates that never ended without a sexual culmination, all the relationships that never broke up on her terms.
You might say the value of all that is incalculable.
[…] The Value Of Game […]
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Gold as always
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The true value of game is that you now KNOW. You know every aspect of social/sexual dynamics around you. And that knowing destroys the generalized social anxiety you may have struggled with your whole life (even if you got laid enough). That shit’s priceless.
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Yeah even if you can’t be a player at least you know enough to never be a victim
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If you can’t be an athlete, be an athletic supporter. (Principal McGee)
🙂
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Kate, we know where your attention is focused…right where it should be. heh
Oh, check out my active blog–you left a comment on my inactive blog.
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..what i know is that some fundamental principles are at work…when i go into a situation i may not always understand what is going on at the moment but there are times when i look back and am now able to learn from my mistakes which gives me more incentive to fail again if i have to and to not fear the outcome as much because i know i will learn from failure..
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that is exactly the value of game…the knowledge of just knowing everything happening around you and being able to predict how people will behave and what they are thinking is priceless.
when you first learn this it can be overwhelming and you can feel bitter and sick after a while but then you just accept the reality of life
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COTW… well done.
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And the value of being able to teach my son game is immeasurable!
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Exactly. The challenge, though, is trying to get these points across to dudes who are still stuck in the old Blue Pill ways, prigs, beta-boys, and Churchians. For some reason these sad chumps are automatically resistant to ideas that could benefit them immensely and improve lives.
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ABC.
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I have been talking to increasing numbers of young attractive women who tell me they avoid going places where there are a lot of guys trying to get their phone number. One girl told me she only goes to clubs when she wants a quick ego boost from all the eager young males being friendly to her. I just hear this because I’m such an old man that girls don’t really see me as a guy anymore and hence are a little more honest with me than they would be with a guy their age. I think you younger guys are kind of screwing things up by hitting on too many girls because you are thinking in terms like “number to lay ratio” and might have better results if you all started doing less approaches instead of following the constant coaxing from game gurus to do more approaches. That’s not likely to happen though because even if you would all benefit collectively from no longer inundating girls with your attempts at game, individually every guy thinks he can out-game the other guys and get the girl and so isn’t going to stop.
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there has never been a pause in the sexual arms race, and there never will be.
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Is there perhaps less an arms race, more jockeying for position and niche adaptation? For instance, maybe a guy stops collecting numbers and instead makes himself available to interested women and invites women to his home for parties? This takes a viable social circle, modest party snack budget, and decent love-shack, but reduces the workload for number-seeking. It seems to me Hugh Heffner’s game works like this.
I wonder if that would have saved the nutcase in Santa Barbara?
Of course, that may be one of many advanced techniques, like hunting from the ground without a blind. Step one may be finding a saddle, sign, then deer. Inviting a herd of doe-eyed prey to the den may come later.
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which is why I always go to the nuclear option first
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there has never been a pause in the sexual arms race, and there never will be…
… both between men and women, and between competing groups of men.
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I think you younger guys are kind of screwing things up by hitting on too many girls because you are thinking in terms like “number to lay ratio” and might have better results if you all started doing less approaches instead of following the constant coaxing from game gurus to do more approaches.
There is something to that idea. Rather than fill your SIM card up with numbers, concentrate on maybe five girls who obviously like you, with another five as backup.
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It’s hard for a guy to see things from the viewpoint of a hot girl. Do a little experiment. Go to a strip club. While you are there you will see many girls you aren’t interested in trying ineptly to be fake friendly to you and feigning an interest in you. It will be obvious to you they are only interested in extracting money from you and you will be mildly amused but you will also wonder what they are thinking in imagining that they can succeed and wondering why they don’t just get a regular job and a boyfriend. After awhile you will get tired of them all approaching you and leave. Hot girls see most guys the same way as you saw the strippers at that strip club. Instead of trying to extract money, though, the guys are trying to extract sex and add another notch to their bedpost. The hot girl looks at them and is mildly amused but also wonders why they don’t spend their time pursuing a career and getting a girlfriend instead of hanging out at bars spouting lines they learned at some game blog. Now if you want to call me a “concern troll” go on ahead. I don’t care.
[CH: you make the category error of assuming hot girls aren’t attracted to charming men.
ps working on your life and picking up girls aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive activities. if you need this further explained to you, the other commenters will be happy to chime in and take you to the TOOL shed.]
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mark all those chicks at the strip club have boyfriends they ain’t robots
they are real woman
you can steal one of them from their boyfriend
and that is their regular job and a owner of a stripclub bar just told me she used to make 10k a week at the shit when she took breaks from her job and went back to a strippin vacation lol as she had the kids and got older Asian chick still looks good for being over 50 i don’t know how old she actually is
but she bought the first round of drinks for my chick and i at her club
so they do better than what your regular job pays do ya get it now lol
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corvinus you a sociopath
j/k
he he he
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the reason a stripper really got to love you is how the fuck are you gonna compensate for that 350 g’s a year she could make lol
if you don’t want her strippin
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all the chicks and owner were trying to get my chick to work there
i don’t know if i got that much confidence lol
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so tempting to let her do it but so against my moral fiber
shit they wanted her to dance that day
she like my dude don’t allow me
she loved the attention though
and i think she loved being able to say my dude don’t allow me too
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Mark, I go dancing a lot and make a lot of cold approaches and this generates a lot of dance partners for me. Women move on me. I never move on them. So I don’t get this “hitting on too many girls” stuff. Guess I’ll go observe sometime instead of dancing. Maybe it happens later in the evening at dancing venues?
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Concern troll is concerned.
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Which should be of concern to all concerned–especially those concerned about the concern of concern trolls.
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I have been talking to increasing numbers of young attractive women who tell me they avoid going places where there are a lot of guys trying to get their phone number.
“Nobody goes to that club anymore… it’s too crowded.” – Yogi Berra
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Ah, Yogi!
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Mark is describing a cartel. Men would be better off as a whole if they acted in concert and reduced their number of approaches. This won’t work for the same reason most cartels fail. A cheater gets the full benefit of the extra approaches (some percentage of which end in lays) while the cost (bitchier women due to ego-inflation) is spread across all men.
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Read: day game
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Girls are less likely to immediately brush off betas during day game.
But’s there’s no real difference in results between day game and club game if you can get laid from clubs.
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Bahaha girls who go to clubs are usually going to get attention or sexual validation.
Day game a girl then “run into each other” at the clubs
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Get an IOI first, then make the approach.
It’s more efficiently productive and less time wastingly annoying for everybody involved.
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All good advice above. Focus on girls you think like you, look for an IOI, do day game instead of going to the club at night where there’s fifty guys and ten girls. Mediocre game worked when most guys were still following the old script and trying to be the provider male like it was 1950. Guys aren’t doing that now and you have so many guys trying to game girls now you are reaching a saturation point and you need to be more creative and try different things.
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One thing I have noticed, at least in FL. The true players, who have game and demonstrable notches, have changed their look a bit in the past year. Hair’s gotten slightly longer, faces friendlier. Separating themselves from the wannabes.
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There’s a reason young guys fuck cougars while us 40+ get numbers from 20-30 Mark. Let them spin, this is the kids corner (CH is in big skool now) and take those numbers.
As for the replies they’re no different to feminist chic logic, what happened to men and rational analysis?
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…think about it this way..if you learn to screen for your type of girl..your frame will be that much stronger when you do find her…
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..prime example…the woman i am seeing now shit tested me when i first made a request of her…i then shit tested her back basically by negging her…she then shit-tested me again at a later date by not responding to me when i asked her a simple question…i didn’t get mad..just ignored her and talked to some other girls..she now doesn’t want to leave me and i have to physically pry her off me sometimes..
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lol
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Game means that even as I approach 50 I’m able to meet, go out with and bang chicks in their 20’s who don’t have any hesitation whatsoever. Ironically it’s chicks in their mid-thirties who resist and shit test most…
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Those are the ones that have yet to accept that their time is running short. Time is on our side; we’ll smile and nod at their desperate acceptance of a beta partner within a year or two.
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I had an interesting experience last week. I invited some musicians and staged a music festival. Unknown to us as organizers, someone hijacked the event by combing through my guest list and then tagging those people to come to an exclusive party. Among those who lead people away was a guy who was gaming my ex gf. Seems they all set me up by walking out during a performance en masse. My musicians and DJ were quite hurt by this. I was furious at the disrespect. Walking out while musicians are performing for me is a major snub at the culture they represent. So I sent both him and the hijacker a text letting them know that what they did I found offensive and disrespectful. I bitch slapped them. The hijacker replied that a few years back I didn’t go to some thing she organized so this was payback. The dude …broke the cardinal rule of man to man talk…he posted my text verbatim on Facebook with a note advising the community I had sent this and he was advising everyone of my behavior.
Interesting thing…some of the people who walked out…apologized both publicly and privately. Then a debate took place on line.
I owned my words and immediately called him out for being a faggot who posts private conversations and walks out on musicians he claims to admire.
Some girls came to my defense. Amazing how the internet works. His kind of orbiters just rallied to his defense, tried twisting the issue and launched a series of very angry and bitter personal attacks.
I ignored and kept calling him out on his behavior…some other dude got the girls to admit they walked out during the performance but it was coincidental because that’s the time they had planned to leave anyway.
I kept it real….finally ended all this with a note saying I had no hard feelings but people need to respect visiting musicians and the risk is people will stop taking chances and trying new stuff.
I went out to my weekly Latin night…some people stared…others just treated me normally and some girls had sent me notes telling me they admired me for defending my musicians.
The faggot walked in and was greeted as a hero. But privately people had told me they saw him as a bully and that by standing up to him I had changed the game for this community by raising awareness of bad behavior that is often ignored.
I write this because the idea of game both as a lifestyle for girls and inner game of having the courage to stand your ground are vital.
I considered the “jumbotron” test and rather than shrinking and crying foul—I reframed the FB thread around the issues and let people read my bitch slap for what it was—a private bitch slap…harsh but honest.
Interesting to see that people with money and cars think that defines them. Game had helped me to stay focused on what I believed in rather than caving into the mass rationalization of bad behavior.
Game as a concept is often applied to women but the idea of being alpha, standing your ground…owning your words, exposing dickheads as butthurt losers…is all part of it.
The hottest girls I was gaming only became closer to me.
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thanks for your quick decision making process. that’s what I think to myself when I get result #1.
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agreed.
she knows in ten seconds if she’s going to spread for you.
nothing worse than indecision.
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SAVED MY FUCKING LIFE
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@immoralgables Game never fails. When I’ve dropped it is when I’ve swung too far away from alpha to beta. One thing I have a tough time with is not saying what’s on my mind. Game is more zen. But there are times when an alpha has to lose his shit to make a point and take a stand.
Finding that inner confidence is what is for me a new challenge.
I’ve been approaching more women lately and ive had some successes. The one thing that many writers and bloggers struggle to define is “success”. Is it banging the girl? Not always. In some cases just approaching is success.
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I feel you 100%
Also, once you know that you no longer have to fear loneliness and that with X amount of work you can get a date….well, that’s just a great overall feeling isn’t it?
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@immoral also women feel it. In my social circle I’m a controversial guy for my views, my outspokeness and because i’m known to bang hot women who then fall madly in love and go crazy because I’m not the usual beta orbiter/provider.
it’s always a high-wire act when you’re alpha because there are always people out to fuck you over.
But when you do win, you win big…with chicks and with anything else.
i’ve been very focused on a few things and girls in particular have noted this. the ones who don’t are time wasters anyway.
I’m also wondering sometimes about my intuition. I’m right about 95% of the time. When I know a girl is going to bang me i know it’s only a matter of time. Is this irrational confidence? Projection? False hopes? Game has helped me to take stock and know what questions to ask to seek the answers i need.
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I’ve decided to make approach week permanent. I’ve spent too long reading and not doing. Since game I’ve fucked a lot more but mostly with 5’s and 6’s (and asian prostitutes); which of course has been better than the incel life I previously led. Still find I freeze up with the hotties, that old esprit de l’escalier
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the time savings and filtering out piece-of-shit women are priceless.
for those of us that are only sporadically fully engaged, or just starting out, that feeling when you’re finally really ‘on’. it’s so much like the scene in the matrix, like you finally understand every little thing going on around you, and then you grasp it further and realize you can control it. less than a dozen evening like that in my life, and each of them unforgettable.
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Game just ensures that you make a fire out of every single spark.
[CH: and game can create sparks too.]
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Met this chick during the day, cute, fun, highly feminine, somewhat insecure, the sort of girl who’d be good wife material. After some aloof texting and teasing, thinks im a ‘playa’ and a ‘jerk’. When we’re together she’s big-eyed, massive IOIs, always hugging my chest, grinding when we make out. second date more groping, she ‘opened up’ blah blah blah wanted to know more about me, i just spat some barely-believable bullshit back, dropped a few beta lines (not sure whether this one a good idea or not. still a bit unclear about the whole ‘CF/comfort’ ratio and the right times for comfort and how far that comfort should go).
My text game has been pretty aloof, after I see her i don’t really text unless she initiates (and even then take a day to respond), which she barely does (not sure if she’s just trying to protect herself, or just isn’t interested). Reading her in person, she seems massively interested, but her lack of text initiation is a bit puzzling.
I’m starting to dig this chick, she seems like a quality girl, not just some random slag I picked up in a club. Should I alter my text game to reflect this? i.e. initiate more often, try to build more comfort, or just continue uncaring asshole?
Also I haven’t fucked her yet (2 dates now), not sure how important this is for a good quality girl (she’s also young. ~18).
First time posting at the Chateau, any advice would be great as I’m still relatively new to game, thanks
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Quality or not, don’t give up the abundance mentality. As soon as she suspects that you are not looking abroad for your next she’ll shit-test you back to your mama’s apron strings
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Dude, if she’s 18 and giving you anime eyes and grinding you when you’ve secluded her, you need to take the ropes and escalate until she stops you. Then tease her and dirty talk her, Toss her around and start a pillow fight, be random. Seriously dude? She’s 18, you should have banged on the first date if you were alpha enough.
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Exactly, well said.
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Sounds like your on the right track, add some texts if your curious about her. Show a little bit. U may have to take the lead with initiating it but once you get it going it should be mutual back and forth. If she isn’t receptive to more texting then back it off.
I highly recommend fucking her.
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Fucking bonds her to you via oxytocin acting within her body. It’s then your choice whether to keep her and marry her (since you are thinking of a wife) or not.
It’s just about that simple.
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CH – anything to say about this mugshot of Jeremy Meeks?
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just came here to post the same. incredible shit: http://jezebel.com/worlds-hottest-felon-spills-his-turn-ons-in-televised-i-1593711722
excuses made for both him an hillary: http://jezebel.com/about-that-time-hillary-clinton-smeared-a-tween-rape-vi-1593808728.
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typical chicks digging badboys…by the way the tear tattoo means hes killed someone
plus he does have male model facial features so its kinda odd to see that in a mugshot
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not necessarily. teardrop could also mean served a term in prison. i’d wager that while the wearer is undoubtedly happy for you to make the assumption that he’s a killer, in all actuality it refers to his prison sentence.
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I always thought it meant you killed someone WHILE in prison.
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I thought it meant you sucked a dick in prison
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asked my chick an it means you have done prison time not that you killed someone
she would know he he he
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The guy is good looking. Move on. There are hot female felons, too, and there have been sites for them, too. http://www.askmen.com/entertainment/galleries/hot-and-busted.html
Note the millions of other prisoners who don’t get the same attention. Put up a picture of an attractive human being of either gender, and the masses will respond.
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the point isn’t that he is good looking or not. objectively, most people can recognize that he is handsome. the point is more that chicks are turned on to the point of hysteria moreso by his being a badboy criminal. sure, the good looks don’t hurt (in fact, they help), but that isn’t why he’s getting the attention he’s getting. there are lots of handsome dudes out there that get absolutely fucking nothing because they’re boring beta males
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also, it is fucking retarded for you to suggest that what men find attractive about women and what women find attractive about men are comparable as regards the issue of criminality. a woman being a criminal has no bearing on whether or not she is attractive – only physical her appearance do the trick.
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Many of us would briefly consider using the body of an attractive female serial killer as a sex toy. Some of us would even consider just lobotomizing…
We all eventually sniff the ass.
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“it is fucking retarded for you to suggest that what men find attractive about women and what women find attractive about men are comparable as regards the issue of criminality.”
In short, the criminal element will add alpha status. This is more useful for an average looking or unattractive man.
But we’re dealing with someone who is already conventionally attractive. The draw IS his “hotness.” It’s the picture that captured the attention, the same way it would have if he was plastered all over Times Square in an Armani ad.
However, you are right in that a majority of women would not evaluate the criminal element of his behavior as a negative. But I’m not certain that it is increasing his status, per se.
I guess the question to ask is: “Would he be more attractive to women as a lawyer/ banker/model/other alpha career or a criminal, everything else remaining constant?”
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I thin it’s reductionist thinking to assume that just one element increases alpha. This is sort of at the heart of game, and what makes it more of an art than a science. Every man must find his one synergy of techniques. What increases alpha for one may be a liability to another. And this is also why the “fake it til you make it” approach fails for so many.
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@LP: “I guess the question to ask is: “Would he be more attractive to women as a lawyer/ banker/model/other alpha career or a criminal, everything else remaining constant?”
Exactly. And yes, he would. You don’t have to be a felon to be a badass.
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ugly male prisoners get tons of attention from women. there is a notable sex difference in this phenomenon. simply: women love badboys. men don’t love badgirls (unless they’re hot).
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It’s the white/blue eyes. Everything else is amazingly average and inconsequential. I must admit I find an attraction to the female version of mulatto possessing the same faint blue eye color myself. :p
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yeahokcool
also, it is fucking retarded for you to suggest that what men find attractive about women and what women find attractive about men are comparable as regards the issue of criminality. a woman being a criminal has no bearing on whether or not she is attractive – only physical her appearance do the trick.
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i think it can have an impact
just like a man being willing to be a criminal means that whether he gets hired or fired he is still gonna get paid
is just like a woman being a criminal means that a dude doesn’t ever have to pay for makeup for her or feminine products lol
although a chick you can trust to take the rap for some shit and the jail time is definitely an asset
although when either goes to jail ya don’t have em is kind of the bad part of it
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if i felt like doing illegal shit my girl would do the time for me
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or if it was needed she would do the illegal shit and take the rap when it went south
but i mean it don’t have to come to that i am smarter than that
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the options with ride or die bitches are really off the chart
i’m only scratching the surface i think
but yet my morals are a part of the reason my bitch loves me she knows i ain’t gonna use her talents for some bullshit
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Honestly a big reason why this is blowing up is because you NEVER see a close up face shot of black dude with light blue eyes.
But yeah if you have the model looks it gives an edge in the smv. (Not as much as girls relatively speaking tho)
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lana-del-rey-feminism-is-just-not-an-interesting-concept-20140604
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Thanks for this. I actually enjoy LDR’s tunes and its refreshing to know she isn’t onboard with feminist ideology. That being said, I’m sure she’s been pumped and dumped more often than not.
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I get that vibe, too…but baby steps.
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Need advice
I have a semi friend/ acquaintance who is a natural alpha, i myself am also alpha although i had to learn to be through game
when we are together in mixed company with women which is quite often, he always out does me and always has the womens interest. i cant quite figure out why he always destroys me despite my knowledge of game..admittedly i have been caught out of state a few times in these situations (im quite introverted so unless i get in state my game aint great)
his main weapon is telling alot of DHV stories about himself (he has an interesting job, has travelled alot and met alot of cool people). i havent done such interesting things and my job is boring so i cant really jump in with cool stories of my own
tips?
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A little friendly AMOGing here to offset his DHV may help, but you’ll have to use the YaReally game style to make sure it looks friendly and in good fun to the girls and not like you’re trying too hard or feel butthurt about his status.
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Tell the chicks you and he are gay lovers.
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yeah, start doing some interesting things or figure out how to present what you already do in interesting ways. “i havent done such interesting things and my job is boring so i cant really jump in with cool stories of my own” is the sort of thing that an insecure person would say. start thinking of your own life as better and more interesting than his and live and act accordingly.
as i have said on numerous occasions, game should not properly be considered a bag of tricks or a means to fool people into thinking you are something other than you are. sure, there is a HUGE AND IMPORTANT component of “faking it until you make it” at the beginning, but the GOAL must be ACTUALLY MAKING IT. start investing in yourself and it will pay off tremendously.
if you need an immediate “trick,” however, you can certainly do as “a random guy” suggested and joke that you’re gay lovers. good point to add – in further jest – is that despite his appearance, he’s actually the bottom AND FUCK if he doesn’t want to cuddle all the damn time.
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girls love attention. make up a hobby that feeds it. photography, videography, etc.
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You could also add a sort of eccentric spin to your mundane stories to make them interesting. I often tell banal stories but extrapolate how they’re significant to the human experience. I told a story to a girl last night about my eye contact with a cashier at whole foods and how I could tell that we both knew we wouldn’t get along for no discernible reason. She ate that shit up.
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The way to rattle naturals is to silently step up your game. If you play on their turf — trying to be louder, etc. etc. It won’t work. You’re going to have to step outside your comfort zone and really fuck with their heads.
Every sub-communication from you must be — ‘I am better than you.’
Dress like a douchebag….like, tapout shirt, sideways hat, bling….shit like that. Maybe even get a tat. Cut your hair in a mohawk. Something along these lines.
Next, RUTHLESS SELF-PROMOTION. Make shit up if you have to. “Holy shit, last week this chick was sucking me off and blah blah blah.” I mean, to the point where IN YOUR MIND you think ‘HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO OBVIOUS.’
Here’s what will happen — your friend will start reacting to you hardcore. They will try to shit on you, call you a douchebag, try to shit on your stories. Now you’re in the driver’s seat. All you have to do is sit back and smile. You don’t even need to AMOG, you already have set out the bait, and he’s eating it up. He’s doing the work for you.
All you need to do is just rock back on your heels and laugh at everything he says, as though he were celebrating you.
This realization was a huge Neo moment for me.
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It’s so much not the content of the story, but how you tell it. We love a well-told story.
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so he takes one home you get the other what’s the problem?
dudes around me have always got bitches there are always extras
sounds like your with the right friend don’t be backstabbing him he he he
but yea improve your life do crazy shit too
i like this
””yeahokcool
but the GOAL must be ACTUALLY MAKING IT””””
yea
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no man i dont trust him, he has intentionally tried to blow me out with girls before using amog tactics
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try to learn from him if his strategy works
natural alpha got more bitches than he can handle by himself
i’m not buying he can take all the bitches maybe the best
but yea don’t look at it negative look positive that’s who you could be
are you jealous of the dude?
do you want his life?
you know what you got to do
other question would be why are you near the dude sounds like he putting in work
you getting to bask in it
take advantage of the learning
how many bitches he taking home from the party
sounds like he getting em tingled up you got to be able to take advantage of one of the ones he don’t
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what trust got to do with it either?
you ain’t never gonna be able to trust a pimp they always lie
and examples of him amoging you
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no i wouldnt say im jealous of him, i respect his alphaness and i get lots of girls myself
we get along quite well most of the times but with girls present we get really competitive and he always beats me. i just want to learn the skills to prevent from getting verbally beaten by him in front of girls. amoging was never my strong suit
one example was i was out with a girl once and happened to run into him and a few friends at a bar. he started blatantly flirting with my girl whilst amoging me and she started giving him ioi’s…i got that slipping feeling that heartiste wrote about in the past and i lost my state control which left me kinda reactionless to it all
i realise alot of this was down to my own failure to maintain control but to be honest at that time i was clueless bout what to do and my brain went blank
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https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/your-girlfriend-is-flirting-with-your-best-friend-what-now/
this is similar.
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the biggest amogers you ever gonna see are the lesbos how you gonna handle that
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This is the single best explanation I’ve seen lately for why learning game really matters.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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“good point to add – in further jest – is that despite his appearance, he’s actually the bottom AND FUCK if he doesn’t want to cuddle all the damn time”
The best part is if (like most guys) he gets defensive and butt-hurt, she will wonder “hmmm,…”
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Hey guys, I read other peoples profiles on these dating sites like POF and all these girls have like ten hobbies and have traveled the world, have great jobs and have pictures of their awsome cars and motorcycles. I live in CO and they all shoot guns, lol it’s crazy. They are like 22/23. Am I missing something? I’m 23, have a crappy CRV and just trying to pay bills while going through culinary school. Is their a way to make lots of cash other than becoming a prostitute? It’s like their SMV is through the roof, who can even compare?
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Chill ! More’n half that schtuff is fake or its daddy’s. Most profiles are done after reading what to write, not from actual lifestyles. Nobody has time for ten hobbies. What they mean is they tried something once or twice, liked it and would do it again, if they had the time!!!.
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https://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/why-women-still-love-bad-boys–like-the-hot-mugshot-guy–170852977.html
CHICKS DIG JERKS
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dudes in jail are not necessarily jerks nicest group of guys you will ever meet
and i’m not joking
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never been to prison though so yea grain of salt
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If one more of you clowns posts a link to that mischling’s mug shot, I’m going to send him your address.
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Hear, hear.
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http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=943
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this post telles it like it is. sometimes is not what you get….. it ends up being what you avoid. in my case , i might not be datign models, but at least i dodged marriage wiht a witch-.
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Game won’t get you number closes from every hot girl you see on the street, but it will increase your number-to-lay ratio considerably, saving you time and effort that would otherwise be wasted if you didn’t have the know-how and skills to successfully seduce a girl from mild curiosity to inflamed passion.
You seem to have the math backwards. Increasing the number-to-lay ratio = more numbers per lay = fewer lays per number. I’d rather have more lays per number.
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“Incalculable” – spoken like a true life-affirmer
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woke up today walked around a bit saw my chick had rolled almost a carton of cigs when i was sleepin
then she pushed me on bed and rapes my dick
she just changed the bed sheets out my house is tight and clean
yea game has some value
he he he
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asked me if i am having fun watching her clean the fish tanks
me yeaaaa!!
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two chicks rolled up earlier to bring me some laundry detergent and take me to bank to get my weekly budget out
since i still don’t have a car lol
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my chick gave em both hugs and thanked em for helping take care of me when she was in jail he he he
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dam my chick been cleanin since i been posting she bends over to turn vacuum on
i go omg laughing
she like what gets all defensive what is it whats up
what is it baby
i go you got a cute but
she says asscheeks
then crying lol wtf
man she emotional last two days
she thought i was making fun of her singing to me
she is so fragile right now
held her said i was just keeping the cute but thing top secret she like i already know you think i got a cute but
i’m like when have i ever made fun of your singing
she like never
i’m like yea
i’m like you are a super tiny one last couple days aren’t you
she said yea
omg wtf this is beyond comfort def emotional time
what day is that supposed to happen?
i did get a little loud was fucking with he a bit he he he
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im gonna tell her to jump a few hundred times
carry her around the house
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any chicks want to chime in on the emotional stuff thing
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although i guess looking downstairs she even mopped the basement and shit
i guess not liking the appreciation for working her ass off haven’t even fucked her of my own accord yet
although seeing my sis irritate the shit out of me probably let her see a chink in my armor i imagine that could be upsetting when you look up to someone
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I asked her about the crying and emotional
she said I used to cry three times a day
its less now
im like oh lol
so should I be making you cry more then he he he
she like nooooooo
maybe as I get more beta in relationship I notice crying and act like it is a big deal or something he he he
she knows I like the shit
I was like you playin ain’t you to make me feel special
she like mayyybeeeeee
but that was real cryin
but yea she can turn that shit on off like switch
i’m like what do you want to be doing
she said what we doing now and being happy
i’m like and
she said like to have a car
so first thing on list car guess thinking about dreams she had involved us being out and about guess she tired of the not being free thing
so think I pinpointed source of emotional crap
she said and I want to do your business so I can make my own money to contribute
yea right she wants own money so she can own her own group of bitches to make clean house she know i like my own personal bitch crew he he he
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I would be really interested in an economist type to do a cost benefit analysis of the tradeoff between money and game. For example, how many waking hours per week do you pursue career aspirations vs how many you pursue social/self improvement activities for an optimal tradeoff. The dark lord would probably say just be a skittles man lol, but money does actually help, if just for making yourself more comfortable.
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You would need to take into account the actions of government in doing the cost benefit analysis. If the government is taxing away most of your money above a certain income, as is the case now, then there’s no benefit working hard enough to reach that income. If, at the same time, the government is acting as substitute beta provider to large numbers of women then the combination of taxing you to subsidize them increases the cost while reducing the benefit of working hard to make money to attract women. In the current environment, the optimal solution is focus more on improving your looks and game when trying to attract women. Just making enough money to be comfortable and no more is enough. Some guys say CH should focus more on game than politics but you really need to understand the political environment you are operating under in order to know what to do and how to proportion your time.
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I think that’s what Krauser calls “Ecosystem Game.” It’s not the same as day or night game.
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so to me value of game about 700k a year between my wife and girlfriend who could makin that but are almost free for me he he he
and not just free but love pampering the fuck out of me
hahhahahahahahahahaha
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[…] If you’re a single man plowing the field, which result would be more aggravating and distressing? – You see an attractive girl on the sidewalk, say hi to her, but don’t get her number. […]
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I wouldn’t call that game. I would call that “screening”. looking for the most sexual available prospects and focusing your efforts in those. I do compliance tests very early in a conversation. I noticed that the earlier a woman complies, the most sexually available she is. like at night when I go “I’m going to a get a drink at the bar, come with me” or during the day “I was going to get something at the juice bar down the block, come check it out.”
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so my bitch put like 8 hours cleaning house in yesterday
uhh she could be working strip club but did naked shave me
and also gave me haircut i told her i used to have when younger and shaved sides with razor which first time done it feels and sounds weird as fuck
washed my hair and body in shower
waitress duties 24 7 how much tip would that be
i got raped the first time initiated 2nd did 69 for a while
rolled a carton of cigs carton rolled is 8 bucks vs 44 near me
sucks dick on command
gonna style my hair before we go to club
got my clothes out for me to choose from
gonna reward us tonight with going to club
a good chick kind of nice to have around
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Heartiste, any tips on how to deal with girls snooping and asking mutual friends shit about you?
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wow;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/carolyn-hax/2014/04/18/898e82ce-b9bb-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.html
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CH needs to make a post out of this to further the beta’s issues under the sheets.
nice spot
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@pabarge Rollo did a great post on this issue:
http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/
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yea wow jesus Christ
yea get the right chick
couple days ago I cut out I love you in paper and put it on porch
soaked lighter fluid and burned it took my girl out at night
yea kind of fucked up fuck it lol
would work much better digging it out the lawn think filling trench with lighter fluid I will do that
my chick spending all day today drawing up a poster of her name loves me
after giving me the comatose wake up bj last night I was so tired I couldn’t move lol when I woke up it was pretty nice though he he he
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It is no different than if I went and stupidly gambled away my life savings, just for the thrill of gambling; or drank away my health, just for the thrill of binge drinking. I’ve gone and destroyed my primary marital assets to a woman, all for a cheap thrill.””””’
thoughts?
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