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Don’t Flatter A Woman If You Want Her To Stay Pretty

June 26, 2014 by CH

If you waste ten minutes of your life scanning relationship or dating advice from female columnists, one theme you’ll often read is the belief that compliments and flattery are the way to a woman’s heart. Naturally, as it goes with 99% of the “””wisdom””” of your feminist elders, this advice is a crock. Any man who has interacted with live women in anything other than a submissive capacity will quickly learn from experience the self-defeating consequences of attempting to court women with compliments.

Reader Joe Sixpack forwards an example of the awful advice you’ll ingest from Hivemind drones, and of the glimmering shards of Realtalk that are beginning to pierce the veil of vapidity,

A Game element leaks out, of all places, a Yahoo! message board comment:

This was regarding an article that said, “Here’s a wakeup call for you: Women spend an average of 55 minutes getting ready every morning — frittering away the equivalent of 6.4 hours a week, or 335 hours a year, on looks alone, a new survey finds. ”

There is a good way to reduce these numbers. Men, tell your woman that she is pretty. I once dated a guy who told me on a regular basis how pretty I was, how much he loved my eyes, how I was the smartest girl he had ever dated, ect. Who cares if he didn’t mean all of it, it made me feel good. I started wearing a little less makeup and found simpler ways to do my hair just so I could get over to his house early before work. He still said the same things. Sadly the whole thing started to go downhill after his daughter called me mom. Now I’m married to a man who never tells me I’m pretty, smart, ect. I put on loads of makeup and wear revealing clothing around him all the time just to get his attention with no success. I have decided to use up my makeup and only replace the ones I really care for. Maybe he will notice when I’m no longer trying to dress like the playboy playmates he claims he wants.

So, the one beta guy tells her how hot/smart/etc. she is all the time. The result? She turns frumpy and obviously is no longer with him.

She is now married to a man who never tells her such things. The result? She puts on “loads of make up and wear revealing clothing around him all the time just to get his attention” and dresses “like the playboy playmates he claims he wants”.

[Ed note: Link no longer works.]

You can sometimes pry nuggets of truth from women, but it requires a facility with comprehending subtext. Women will drop clues revealing their true feelings stuffed between over-sized cushions of egoistic pabulum.

Do you want to persuade your girlfriend or wife to keep up her looks? (And if you’re a non-gay man with T readings above 0.1 ng, you will.) Then keep her on her toes.

Maxim #101: Compliments breed complacency. Critique breeds conciliation. A woman will never work as hard for a man’s approval as when his approval is most elusive.

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  1. on June 26, 2014 at 2:11 pm Don’t Flatter A Woman If You Want Her To Stay Pretty | Manosphere.com

    […] Don’t Flatter A Woman If You Want Her To Stay Pretty […]

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  2. on June 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm Anonymous

    I find it easy to be honest with the women I date. “You’re really pretty. So are all the other women I’m dating.” For some reason they don’t get fat, can’t imagine why.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:11 am the bone machine

      also works if she knows chicks you used to “date” were skinny and hot. don’t talk about it. just let her find some pics and she’ll put it together for herself.

      if she’s not making herself puke up dinner you’re doing it wrong. she should be nervous/anxious all the time. comfort = dryness.

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  3. on June 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm theasdgamer

    “Maxim #101: Compliments breed complacency. Critique breeds conciliation. A woman will never work as hard for a man’s approval as when his approval is most elusive.”

    Gamer Maxim: “Only compliment a woman on her looks if you’re fucking her.”

    Pavlovian Game FTW

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:55 pm Zombie Shane

      If you do it right, then just the way that you fuck her can be the compliment.

      If she’s been really good to you – dressing up super hot and steadfastly refusing to flirt with any other guys – then later that night, reward her by fucking her extra hard and giving her a few more orgasms than usual.

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 5:24 pm Modern Primitive

        And put a WHYTE BABY IN HER OVEN amirite?

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 6:11 pm MZ

        No, just a dipshit

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 6:46 pm Tilikum

        “If she’s been really good to you – dressing up super hot and [b]steadfastly refusing to flirt with any other guys”[b/]

        what the hell is wrong with you right now? how does this enter your mind to even write it?

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 7:01 pm Imperial Leather

        no one can really say how zombies think

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 5:28 am Zombie Shane

        > “what the hell is wrong with you right now? how does this enter your mind to even write it?”

        ??? Ask Axelrod why he told you to post that, other than to waste my time.

        For anyone who cares – there are two kinds of hot dates – those who stare into your eyes all night long, and those who constantly divert their attention to stare into other dudes’ eyes.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 5:30 am Zombie Shane

        Reward the chicks who deserve to be rewarded.

        Next the bitches who deserve to be Next’ed.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 6:10 pm cheshirecat

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  4. on June 26, 2014 at 2:37 pm Humans are animals

    Compliments should be used only as positive reinforcement for good behaviour. Make them hard earned.

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  5. on June 26, 2014 at 2:40 pm Hurricane Ditka

    I always thought that eating disorder crap was just something cooked up to scare men from shaming women into losing weight. A shit test maybe: Are you man enough to tell her the truth about her fat ass?

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 4:10 pm Zombie Shane

      I find that this shit works best in the third person: “That friend of yours who’s wasting all her time and money on the aerobics – has she considered taking up an eating disorder instead, like anorexia or bulemia? It would be a lot quicker and she would save a ton of money.”

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      • on June 29, 2014 at 6:07 am corvinus

        It’s also a great line when you want to get kicked in the gonads. Fuck face.

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  6. on June 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm Troubadour

    I’m reminded of a longtime female friend who has been going through a process of dressing up, fixing up, and just generally going all out trying to keep her man interested. She keeps asking me for advice, and I don’t have much left to give her. He’s bored. I can’t blame him, since this one is somebody I friend zoned myself. Too old. Not pretty enough. Reality is harsh. I think she keeps talking to me because I tell her the truth about things like that. “You’re 46 and plain looking. You’re doing all you can do. If you want to keep him engaged, get him a 20 year old girlfriend and make her eat you out so you get off too. It’s probably your best hope.”

    I can’t help analyzing the whole Friend Girl Debacle of 2014 to death. I never could have gotten out of the friend zone, granted, but I’m inclined to believe her when she tells me that it worked when she started nattering on about how pretty she was, and I said, “You might be a 7 in the right light, if I had enough alcohol in me, but 6 is really pushing it hard.”

    In the end, I decided to tell her what I really think about her as a person, which is a lot more than she thought of herself as a person, but it was still coldly realistic. I think this can keep working for me.

    I’m a brutally honest guy, so if I go after chicks with flaws, I’ll never give them too much praise.

    My mission, then, is to find the flaws in ALL chicks. What’s wrong with those girls in yoga pants lining up on the sidewalk in front of my house doing squats? How can I crush their self-esteem, and get them addicted to external validation from me?

    If I could do that, I could be fucking them.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm Zombie Shane

      > ““You’re 46 and plain looking. You’re doing all you can do. If you want to keep him engaged, get him a 20 year old girlfriend and make her eat you out so you get off too. It’s probably your best hope.””

      God damn, man.

      How about we REFRAME that shit so that it’s TROUBADOR and the 46-yo and the 20-yo in that there menage?

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 3:11 pm Zombie Shane

        You do realize that she would cheat on her husband with you in a heartbeat, right?

        That is TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE conversational material for a married woman.

        Hire a hot young dominatrix to go at her and then she could get her “Shades of Gray” action while you get your sexy menage.

        Shit damn, man, get to work on it.

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 3:12 pm Zombie Shane

        LIFO’ed damn it.

        Hire a hot young dominatrix to go at her and she [the 46yo] could get her “Shades of Gray” action while you get your sexy menage.

        Shit damn, man, get to work on it.

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm blindman

        i agree with Zombie. why are you wasting your time giving her advice about how to fix things with her guy? that may have been a good way to get started with her but you’re letting it go on too long. you must be interested in her or you wouldn’t be wasting time talking to her.

        quit with all the doom and gloom about finding flaws and crushing self-esteem. sounds like you’ve already got that down so there’s no fear of you being too weak and beta. but there are limits to that and it sounds like you’re getting yourself friend-zoned with girls because you’re being too cold and aloof. have some fun and try to balance things out.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 6:42 am Troubadour

        The 46 year old mailed a box to my house that had some hand-made candy and a valentine in it. On the outside, it said “BE MINE” and when I opened it, a snarling grizzly bear popped out at me, and it said “OR ELSE!”

        I never gave the chick my address. She dug it up all on her own.

        I have that effect on a certain kind of woman.

        Like my wife.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:52 am Zombie Shane

        > ““BE MINE” … “OR ELSE!””

        Jesus Christ, do you wanna get laid or not?

        Fuck her brains out and then get a 20-something bi off of match.com or Craigslist or wherever to join you. Or hire a dom to slap her around. God damn it.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:20 pm Zombie Shane

      > “What’s wrong with those girls in yoga pants lining up on the sidewalk in front of my house doing squats?”

      Not sure if you’re joking here.

      And would need a lot more info – more detail – to offer lines of attack.

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 3:22 pm Zombie Shane

        Lines of attack tend be very situationally specific.

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 4:41 pm Zombie Shane

        Upthread from here, Ditka is playing with the idea of Eating Disorder Game – joking about anorexia and bulemia and shit.

        Chicks will howl in protest about politically incorrect jokes but they will also howl with laughter.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm having a bad day

      @troubadour

      “I can’t help analyzing the whole Friend Girl Debacle of 2014 to death.”

      …nothing to analyze. you got friend-zoned through lack of kino escalation/beta orbiter validation…learn from the experience (or don’t…lol) and move on…

      “I never could have gotten out of the friend zone, granted, but I’m inclined to believe her when she tells me that it worked when she started nattering on about how pretty she was, and I said, “You might be a 7 in the right light, if I had enough alcohol in me, but 6 is really pushing it hard.”

      that lack of external validation started to work…add some kino and see what happens next time…(or don’t…lol)

      “In the end, I decided to tell her what I really think about her as a person, which is a lot more than she thought of herself as a person, but it was still coldly realistic.”

      external validation (which this is) = beta orbiter…

      “I think this can keep working for me.”

      only if you like really like the beta orbiter friend zone…

      “I’m a brutally honest guy, so if I go after chicks with flaws, I’ll never give them too much praise.”

      don’t discount negative attention in the external validation olympics…lol…

      “My mission, then, is to find the flaws in ALL chicks. What’s wrong with those girls in yoga pants lining up on the sidewalk in front of my house doing squats? How can I crush their self-esteem, and get them addicted to external validation from me?”

      they are already addicted to the external validation from all them other beta orbiters they already got…why would your validation be anything special…? also, all them other orbiters aren’t getting sex either…lol…

      “If I could do that, I could be fucking them.”

      no…you couldn’t…lol…

      “Luke…just let go…and let the Force flow through you…”

      lol…

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm Nicole

      Well Troubadour,maybe and then again, maybe not. While it might be true that every woman can be gamed, it is definitely true that not every woman can be gamed by YOU. No big deal,though, get out there and talk to them( I love woman in yoga pants) and find the one you can game and ignore the ones who turn you down. Don’t forget, picking up women is a numbers game. The more you hit on, the more rejection you face. However, don’t lose your composure and your confidence and you will succeed. Perhaps on the third girl you talk to or maybe the hundredth.Best of luck!

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 1:23 am Nicole

        I used to think that, but then I bumbled into 3 months of Hel with a malignant narcissist.

        There is a mask that will work for any woman. The question is only knowing which one to wear.

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 1:03 am Nicole

        Nicole..disturbing to meet you. would you consider adding something distinctive to your name?

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 8:54 am Nicole

        No. I think people can tell us apart.

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  7. on June 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm JohnDSee

    Chics really say this shit. All the time. My dad gave me plenty of advice, some of which took years to understand. ‘Son, women think different from us. Logic is foreign to them. Don’t bother using it with them and you’ll be fine.’ He was thrice divorced when he died but never suffered from a lack of female attention.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:16 pm Zombie Shane

      > “Logic is foreign to them.”

      Which is why every man needs to hit the Manosphere and get his PhD in Abberrant Female Psychology and Applied Theory of Estrogen and Progesterone Side Effects.

      Otherwise you’re just axing to become a beta herbling manboob loser.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 6:40 am Tank

        Is your knee growing?

        What’s with axing in place of asking. I’ve been under the impression that axing is just the dyslexic pronunciation of asking -> aksing -> axing.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:47 am Zombie Shane

        Rush Limbaugh says “ax” instead of “ask” because that’s how most authentic chimpanzee spokesmen talk – chimps like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:48 am Zombie Shane

        Make that “spokeschimps”.

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  8. on June 26, 2014 at 3:03 pm John South

    Women really understand men well.

    All we care about is reducing your time to get ready.

    Noticed the relationship went south after some intimacy appeared.

    So much for substance.

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  9. on June 26, 2014 at 3:03 pm Waffles

    Truth! Chick I dated for a bit once told me she liked me because I was the first guy who never told her she was pretty.

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  10. on June 26, 2014 at 3:39 pm whorefinder

    Life is a shit test.

    Women shit test you.

    Kneegroes shit test you.

    Gamma-commies named PA shit test you. And then post hilarious half-a$$ed and one-quarter-thought-outconspiracy theories under the guise of “just asking questions.”

    Integrity-less bloggers named piggy shit test you.

    The only logical response?

    RAPE!

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 3:59 pm Zombie Shane

      > “one-quarter-thought-out conspiracy theories”

      So you are a jew?

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm whorefinder

        lol.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 5:15 am Zombie Shane

        Seriously – the only substance which I can find in this long running dispute between you and PA is that he has called you out for being a neocon.

        BTW, I saw Jonah Goldberg on Fox News [maybe yesterday, or the day before?] and I don’t think that I have ever heard a more profundly vapid vacuous weaselly dissembling example of Fifth Columnist blather in my entire life.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:36 am A Random Guy

        I have no idea, ZS, but it’s getting pretty tiresome, frankly…

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 11:43 am Mike Hunt

        I back the zombie.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 10:26 pm driveallnight

        Last time I input, but the Whorefinder/PA version of Tupac v Biggie is fully played out.

        Men….please spare us. Btw greetings from Cartagena everyone jajaja

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 3:07 pm oralcummings

        Re Jonah Goldberg:This guy wrote what may be the stupidest sentence EVER wrote.He was doing one of those “What Happened To Detroit” pieces in NR.He referred to the big black fist,and said to,paraphrase,its a symbol of the tough blue collar working man. Haw haw haw haw haw haw haw haw!!!!!!!!

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 4:46 pm Tilikum

      neegros WILL shit test, tru dat

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 5:04 pm PA

      His cred shot, a complete laughingstock at this point, little wolfowitz doesn’t understand what his “provoke daddy” behavior looks like to others.

      LOL! what a joke.

      oh, and …

      SMACK!!! across his face with a rolled up Wall Street Journal.

      This is fun.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 5:09 pm whorefinder

        lmao. Oh the lies gamma-commies tell themselves to keep them from shivering at night.

        Now tell us all again how I’m a neocon. And your “theories” on 9/11.

        PA rape!

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 7:15 am SatyrWolf

      *LOL*

      PA’s still in your head.

      Has it occured to you that he alpha’d you big time, because you’re still trying to qualify yourself. All he has to do now is escalate kino, establish comfort, and number close.

      Here, let me put it in a way that you’ll understand.

      WHOREFINDER MIND RAPE!

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:45 am Zombie Shane

        > “All he has to do now is escalate kino, establish comfort, and number close.”

        OUCH.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 5:10 pm whorefinder

        lol. poor deluded soul Still buying everything Piggy’s squealer tells you.

        It’s sad you’re one of the sheep, and not one of the wolves.

        Sheep rape!

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 10:18 am The Spirit Within

      Add value to discourse, whorefinder

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  11. on June 26, 2014 at 4:03 pm Put Down Artist

    “I have decided to use up my makeup and only replace the ones I really care for. Maybe he will notice when I’m no longer trying to dress like the playboy playmates he claims he wants.”

    Completely ignoring them doesn’t work either. Everything in moderation. Although when it comes to the long term I’m not sure anything at all works.

    And try find a girl who does not need lots of makeup, because it corrodes their skin until you literally don’t want to see them with makeup. Nothing quite like a woman who has ruined her skin with makeup, and most have.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 4:12 am Amy

      Makeup doesn’t corrode women’s skin. Smoking, tanning, and poor diet do that. If you’re talking about superficial stuff like acne, mineral based makeup fixes that problem.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:47 am no

        …what’s that clay women are using more now..i think you can eat it..

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  12. on June 26, 2014 at 4:28 pm corvinus

    I complemented a really cute girl’s shirt. I hardly ever complement, and even here I only commented on something she was wearing. She cautiously asked, “Are you being sarcastic?” I blankly said “no”.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm corvinus

      *compliment. Dernit. I’m not used to using this word, heh.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 7:55 am Mel Gibson

      Well done.

      If I compliment, I do so on obscure things:

      “I like your elbows” for some reason works well for me.

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  13. on June 26, 2014 at 4:50 pm anonYmous

    if you want to compliment ur gurl on her looks the only acceptable response is a good slap on the ass, anything else is wrong. might not work on strangers lol

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 9:41 pm JironGhrad

      Works on strangers. Best done outside the workplace. Jealous bitches be throwing sexual harassment complaints (because they aren’t getting any of it.)

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  14. on June 26, 2014 at 4:59 pm FamilyMan

    Amusing threat from reddit /r/relationships, where a guy passes a girl’s ultimate shit-test with flying colors … The thread is by the girl.

    Girl suggests “taking a break” in relationship so she can sleep around. Guy agrees. She does find some fuckbuddies, probably already had them lined up. Guy adapts successfully and fucks girl’s younger sister.

    Girl decides to go back to guy after finding out that he fucked her sister. She is furious at sister but wants nothing more than to have this guy back.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 4:59 pm FamilyMan

      The link would help wouldn’t it?

      http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/2969th/me_22_f_with_my_exboyfriendfiance_20_m_cant_get/

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        Step aside, you 22-year old hag! Your baby sister is a better shag. Seventeen, hot and tight… just the way he likes it!

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 6:48 pm Modern Primitive

        Women are retarded

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 8:09 pm anonYmous

        LOL… all the guy has left to do is to tell the bitch to get the fuck out of his life.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 4:54 am anotheronetakesthepill

        That’s always been popular knowledge. Want your exgf back/mad? Pump everyone in her circle of friends.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 5:19 pm Steve Johnson

      The funniest thing from that dizzy twist:

      “We aren’t 35-30 and ready to get married, so we feel that we need to “live” now so that we CAN happily commit when we are older. It works for us, it isn’t really “traditional” but it works…”

      Ha!

      Those crazy traditions that sprung up just because people were jerks. Don’t you know that when you’re 35 guys will be lining up to marry you – after you’ve partied a bit?

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  15. on June 26, 2014 at 5:19 pm cynthia

    OT, but has anybody else noticed how difficult it is to tell the difference between the ignorant Reddit screeds of college-age white girl feminists, genuine journalism, and satire? Doesn’t help that 4chan has apparently been trolling it for years, but…

    What the fuck is wrong with the person who wrote that Slate article in the Twitter feed?

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:46 am no

      …you are a piece of work..

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  16. on June 26, 2014 at 5:28 pm Tilikum

    I have a proposition. I say when a poster replies to his own post more than one occasion or nests down two or three, we call that a “Crazy Shane”. Maybe a “Jewey Frankenpost”.

    What do we all think?

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 5:47 pm Kate

      “He’s going off the rails on a Crazy Shane!” 😉

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      • on June 26, 2014 at 8:01 pm GasButtox

        Kate,

        My buttox are smooth..
        My buttox are round…
        My buttox will soon make…
        An amazing sound !!

        My buttox will then release a complex and fascinating superstructure of gas…. By immersing yourself in it, you will learn a lot.

        Then you will…

        …..Detox my Buttox.

        The check for $5000 will be payable in advance. I notice that the last few times, the check was from the bank account of a man named Mark Minter. Who is he? I think it is sweet that he is sponsoring your education, recreation, and spirituality this way.

        [CH: the last line brought the lulz.]

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 6:30 am Zombie Shane

        Huh. I just went back and searched the archives, and that fiancee of hers – mark minter – is a jew.

        Kate, I’m sorry that you mudsharked yourself to the tribe, but, sooner or later, I guess we all have to be tempted by the 30 shekels of silver. Say hi to Sailer and Derbyshire for me at the bat mitzvah.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 7:51 am Kate

        *rolls eyes* You’re a poor researcher, but I’m not complaining!

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 6:49 am yeahokcool

        They probably broke it off already which is why she’s posting more… Needs to find replacement romance amongst the faithful. Too bad Matt King died.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 7:52 am Kate

        Not bloody likely. Speaking of missing people though, what has happened to Lily? RD?

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:57 am Kate

        http://lmgtfy.com/?q=altruism+definition

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 8:58 am yeahokcool

        they found boyfriends who tantalize enough to keep them off this website…

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:38 am Zombie Shane

        > “You’re a poor researcher, but I’m not complaining!”

        The googling which I did indicated very clearly that “Minter” is a jew name.

        ???

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:55 am Kate

        So, does that mean you are actually a zombie? You shouldn’t believe everything you read on the internet.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm Greg Eliot

        Leave it to Kate to invoke that devil’s spawn, Silly Lily.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 2:39 pm Zombie Shane

        > “(((shakin’ mah haid)))”

        Yeah, it sounds like the brainwashing has begun.

        Sad that she didn’t put up more of a fight than that.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 7:28 pm Reco

      Ha good one…how about instead of nested maybe a “post in the oven”…fuck I just don’t have the buns I mean the puns down that well.

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 8:25 pm Lucius Somesuch

      I say when a poster replies to his own post more than one occasion or nests down two or three, we call that “The Talmud”.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 1:14 pm Greg Eliot

        Oh, snap! Thread over, folks… we have a WINNAH!!!

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 6:48 am yeahokcool

      I’m cool with this so long as my main man GSGregi gets a pass

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 11:52 am Mr.magNIFicent1

        seconded

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 10:54 am Matthew

        gsg’s stuff is more gilgamesh than talmud.

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 3:37 pm Lucius Somesuch

        lolzlolz I’ve been thinking GSGregi may be the comtemporary Pound “Cantos” or something.

        And of course da GBFMz getz da epic catalogues da Iliadz n roeB$cku ther’s no stopping de lolzolzlzl!!!

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  17. on June 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm Don’t Flatter A Woman If You Want Her To Stay Pretty | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  18. on June 26, 2014 at 6:06 pm Robert What?

    It’s true. And it applies to women of all ages. Both my gal and I are a good deal older than the average CH reader – and she is a real sweetheart with no guile. But I do notice that if I complement her on her looks she will tend to slack off. If I show some disapproval she goes back to the exercise routine. (Of course, I have to make sure I keep up on mine too – but I know whether I’m in shape whether she complements me or not.)

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 7:40 pm Robert What?

      Of course I meant compliment, not complement. (Although I guess we do that too.)

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  19. on June 26, 2014 at 6:12 pm Dr Caveman

    I think reader Joe misread the quoted bit – the woman is still with the same guy, he just stopped telling her she was pretty after his daughter started calling her mom

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    • on June 26, 2014 at 8:46 pm gunslingergregi

      wow nice catch I think you are right

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  20. on June 26, 2014 at 9:22 pm gunslingergregi

    yea on compliments it is fucking ridiculous when I am out with my bitch how many compliments she gets
    she goes to car when we at dealership to get me a drink out the cooler in car
    and says 6 dudes asked her if she needed help on the way
    I go to lake with friends and guy who owns it remembers us from last year
    comes up says we didn’t pay for the fishing passes but then says they gratis on him
    so 20 bucks free he thought we would know
    funny part is last year we never paid for em either cept one time and we thought it was cause we were on a boat
    so no we wouldn’t know lol
    the fish even compliment and flatter my bitch and me
    we caught like 37 fish my chick caught the first one
    my friends caught 0
    wtf I don’t get it
    why I talked about that one movie and how the dude caught the fish and his bitch had to listen to him to get to eat
    if shtf my chick and I would still be eating good and have food to sell lol
    I laugh with my bitch at the survivor shows and they can hardly ever get freaking fish we don’t get it
    kids like my bitch more than parents and flock to her had two kids who had to leave and said bye to her that she was watching in the shallow end while I was diving
    she saved a nig today from drowning he might of been checking her out I don’t get it got to swim out to the diving board and he was out there with me and shit
    my buddy jumped off the top and I jumped off the level one below it is high as fuck diving out in this lake but I wanted to let the dude win one
    in front his bitch I felt I could take the hit to my manhood lol
    but yea I guess this dude called out to my chick he drowning and get lifeguard
    she did lifeguard said he was ok
    my chick like no really he drowning
    lifeguard went out with the floatation shit
    brought him back in and he started puking in the water and shit
    I figured he might of been playing but yea maybe not when he started puking
    first time I seen blacks at this lake hope it don’t end up like that city I know that got overrun
    his friend went out in canoe they flipped it right at dock and then at end of night they were calling for them to come back and they didn’t
    so two of the blacks may not be going again I don’t know at least they were with black chicks though so unusual shit
    she helped an old man that was hunched over and having a bad day to smile
    she said she noticed old people more since seeing my dad
    so she sees I complimented her on the altruism
    now she is a freaking saint although it has been like that in most ways
    my buddy to his chick if you were more like gregs girl we would have a lot less problems
    my chicks had to come up with some shit to make it seem like we not superhuman and shit

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:40 am no

      ..it takes industrial sized balls and nerves of steel to stay in a relationship with a hot girl..

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 12:05 pm gunslingergregi

        why you got to own that bitch heart and soul cause everywhere you go gonna be multiple dudes and bitches ready to take her home and shit
        she got to in her little heart choose you

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 3:16 pm no

        I know man…relationships are about control…that’s got to be the key….

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 4:55 pm gunslingergregi

        you can’t control a bitch though she has to be able to control herself you can back her up though when shit gets out of control which sometimes it will nature of the beast
        relationships are about fun fucking fantastic fucking adventures

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  21. on June 26, 2014 at 10:22 pm bear

    My boyfriend compliments me when I dress in an especially attractive or sexy way and when I do my hair and make up nicely…I find that this incentivizes me to do it as much as possible, because I like the compliments and to know that I am pleasing him! It also is a good reminder that I can always make myself look better by putting in more effort.

    In this sense, I think that compliments can be effectively leveraged, especially in a long-term relationship. However I agree with the overall point that if a guy tells me I look beautiful or pretty all the time regardless of the effort I’ve put in, it will become meaningless drivel.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:43 am no

      …yes solid…CH has been over this topic..

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    • on June 30, 2014 at 12:16 pm blindman

      “if a guy tells me I look beautiful or pretty all the time regardless of the effort I’ve put in, it will become meaningless drivel.”

      this is the key. complimenting a woman is NOT the same thing as flattering her.
      i compliment my woman when she’s putting in effort. not all the time or with any regularity but positive reinforcement does work for encouraging her to keep up whatever it is she’s doing.

      but i never offer insincere flattery. that is destructive and teaches her that she will get positive feedback no matter how little effort she puts in.

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  22. on June 26, 2014 at 10:48 pm Loner Black

    Don’t flatter a woman if you want her to stay thin, respect you, worship you, and obey you.

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  23. on June 27, 2014 at 12:55 am Ideological phantasmagoria

    I would have dismissed the case based solely on the picture. Check it, ha ha!

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/trainee-lawyer-who-falsely-accused-boyfriend-of-rape-is-jailed-20140627-zso3s.html

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  24. on June 27, 2014 at 1:00 am Anonymous

    CH,
    Any tips on party-holiday game? I.e. places like ibiza/magaluf/ayia napa.

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  25. on June 27, 2014 at 2:18 am Don’t Flatter A Woman If You Want Her To ...

    […] If you waste ten minutes of your life scanning relationship or dating advice from female columnists, one theme you’ll often read is the belief that compliments and flattery are the way to a woman’s heart.  […]

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  26. on June 27, 2014 at 2:24 am walawala

    Advice to guys from women usually comes from one of two positions: a need to control the frame: compliment them to make them happy or out of desire for the aloof alpha to be more expressive.

    So much of game is counterintuitive. Do the opposite of what you think is logical.

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  27. on June 27, 2014 at 2:39 am The Troll King

    Hey CH, this is kinda OT but has so much juicy feminist id to be dissected with your shiv.

    http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/read-amy-schumers-ms-gala-speech.html

    Amy Schumer gives a speech about “confidence” at the Ms. Foundations birthday gala for Gloria Steinem. In it she recalls a guys she “hooked-up” with in college. Would this classify her as a alpha widow? Either way, she basically admits to raping the dude because he was so drunk that he couldn’t stay conscious while she was sober as a bell.

    I guess “yes means yes” doesn’t apply to fat feminists who call themselves comedians who write hundreds of words about basically feeling empty inside because she showed up in the real world and realized she isn’t a special snowflake.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:21 am Zombie Shane

      > “Schumer… Steinem…”

      Hmmm. Notice a pattern there?

      BTW, it’s a fellow named Charles “Chuck You” Schumer who is leading the all-out Frankfurt School assault for the final piece in the puzzle of Race Replacementism destruction of the USA. Namely, AMNESTY.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:28 am Zombie Shane

      LIFO’ed, but “Schumer” and “Steinem”? Rolls eyes.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 1:19 pm Greg Eliot

      Schumer’s that blonde kike who passes for a shiksa… until she opens her slut mouth.

      Or am I thinking of someone else?

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  28. on June 27, 2014 at 3:10 am The Troll King

    lolz,

    Don’t think it works for this bish
    http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/read-gabourey-sidibes-ms-gala-speech.html

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  29. on June 27, 2014 at 5:17 am Knowbody

    stumbled on this back during the 2012 olympics before I saw the negs and PU techniques…I said something about how hot certain female olympians were….my LTR at the time got mad as hell for the next few hours but since then she’s had been a regular gym rat and eats right. She thanked me later for giving her the push to change her habits

    Plus it helps to check out girls constantly when she’s around!

    very, very, very rarely call your woman “beautiful”….it’s canned, do something more unique and sparingly. outta the blue: something like “damn, I think you look hot AF today” once every few weeks smashes the daily beta line, “good morning beautiful” text message.

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  30. on June 27, 2014 at 6:25 am wolfie65

    Much like flowers, gifts, dinners, etc. , compliments work on females 16 or younger or 55 and older. They react to those things like you’ve always been told and like you’d think they would. So if those age groups are within the range you consider ‘dateable’, go ahead and be a gentleman. From 17-54, however, all those things are P O I S O N!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And the prettier the girl, the more poisonous they are.
    Ain ‘t no such animal as an attractive woman who doesn’t know she’s attractive, and if she’s a 7+, she gets absolutely carpet-bombed with compliments from everyone, all the time, every day, all day.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 7:42 am anotheronetakesthepill

      my gf suggested me to bring some flowers when meeting her in the airport?
      In fact I didn’t even know she liked flowers that much.

      Is that a shit test? I am wondering how to pass it

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 7:50 am wolfie65

        Bring flowers if you’re going to your mom’s for dinner or to a funeral.
        Otherwise, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM FLOWERS!!!!!!
        Leave them where they belong: in the ground. They like it there.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 8:45 am coolhandle

        You’re not her step-n-fetch. When you give your girl flowers, you do it on your terms and when you want to, or if. She’ll lose respect and gina tingles if you obey her silly whims.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:06 am Zombie Shane

        aottp, your biggest test will be when you do NOT bring her the flowers, and then the shit storm ensues, and the innate Nice Guy in you gets all confused and startled and immediately opens Its mouth to apologize.

        Do NOT apologize. NEVER APOLOGIZE. Hold frame. Say nothing, or tell her to get a new boyfriend, or tell her that she can just walk home from the airport, but DO NOT APOLOGIZE.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:19 am the bone machine

        “Is that a shit test?”

        yes.

        “I am wondering how to pass it”

        show up half an hour late, stoned. don’t apologize. pound her hard from behind and leave without letting her tell you about her trip.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:23 am yeahokcool

        @the bone machine. waits or pixies?

        @anotherone. r u trollin’ son???? assuming you’re not, don’t take her flowers. you can, however, draw a crappy flower on a piece of paper and maybe draw a penis on it as well

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:26 am Zombie Shane

        > “show up half an hour late, stoned… pound her hard from behind…”

        I’d add, “and give her lots of orgasms”. Afterwards, her hamster will race all that much more furiously if she came and came and came and came for a man whom she knows she ought to hate.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:46 am the bone machine

        “waits or pixies?”

        kim is finally gone!

        “I’d add, “and give her lots of orgasms””

        no. use her for your pleasure. do not consider hers. treat her like an object. orgasms are a reward. do not reward bad behavior.

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 10:15 am Knowbody

        dropping alpha neutron bombs is risky if you’re not already aloof somewhat because I guarantee you won’t be able to hold frame, she’ll come UNGLUED! If you’re asking this question then you aren’t mentally prepared for that. My advice, don’t bring flowers, show up maybe a few minutes late. Never do as you’re told. That’s the shit test, never follow orders from your girl. Never. With this, make no excuse and just say “glad to see you back, let’s go get nasty.” Just kinda whatever about the whole thing
        When she asks about the flowers….”you already ruined it when you told me to bring them, so I brought you this D instead!!! bahhhhaha”

        Above all…quit worrying about it

        If you do flowers…never deliver in person. Always when they’re not expected (v-day or some dumb shit holiday). And in front of people she’s close to…work, friends, this is probably the most important part. Girls get off on one-upping their friends. Finally, when she’s freaking out to you about how sweet it is just be like “cool”…don’t be a fag about it “ohh baby I’m so glad you liked em, I was hoping you would!!” No, that shit is gay and automatically DLV

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 1:35 pm Sam

        Bring her a bag of flour. Hand it to her, then say, “What are you cooking me tonight?”

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 4:22 pm Zombie Shane

        Strongly disagree here – give your woman orgasms or else YaReally will do it for you.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:44 am no

      Curious Question: How mean can you be to a girl and get away with it?

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 10:19 am Knowbody

        It depends…

        If you’re a celebrity you can borderline kill a family member and still bang.

        Hand wringing fedora nerd, asking her on a date is a crime worse than forced rape. See: “stare rape”

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      • on June 28, 2014 at 3:17 pm no

        nice

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  31. on June 27, 2014 at 8:32 am coolhandle

    “And if you’re a non-gay man with T readings above 0.1 ng, you will.”

    This should read “And if you’re a normal man,” et cetera. Sodomy is abnormal, diseased sexual behavior.

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 8:46 am SatyrWolf

      Isn’t all this worry about what a guy does with his dick well….gay?

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 10:34 am ballocaust

        employing shame to outgroup unfit members to improve overall fitness of population, buttsecks as large disease vector

        or for the libtardians, i’m not gonna obamacare someones AIDS cocktail

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 1:27 pm Greg Eliot

        I’d like to say “Nice try, Brucie.”

        But it was just another played variation on Cathedral shaming… and pooh-poohing (pun intended) any rightful disdain of unsound behavior is the sign of either he whose ox has been gored or he who should have paid more attention during History, Sociology, and Biology.

        Avaunt, thou fairy.

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  32. on June 27, 2014 at 9:20 am no

    “I personally examined many thousands of patients who had attempted suicide or at least made a suicidal gesture (not quite the same thing of course). They were overwhelmingly from poor homes….Not surprisingly, the members of such households were often enormously fat. ”

    http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/current

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  33. on June 27, 2014 at 9:20 am gunslingergregi

    “a necessary lesson in self-authenticity” Translation: She got bored with her beta hubby. ”””””””

    I read it he stopped wanting her romantically
    or stopped wanting to fuck her
    she didn’t get the fairytale in the fairytale they fuck happily ever after

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:21 am gunslingergregi

      the ugliest truth is that bitches never get tired of fucking guys do
      guys always complaining there bitch won’t fuck em but really they ain’t taking it either so is it true fuck no

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:27 am gunslingergregi

        even my first wife left really cause I didn’t want to fuck the bitch anymore
        had just fucked her she wanted to ride my dick again I said no I don’t want to
        she like we always used to fuck again
        oh well

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:32 am no

        …that’s the number one reason I don’t stay will a girl too long…I get bored with them for a week or two or they see all the female attention I get and they go crazy…

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      • on June 27, 2014 at 9:35 am no

        …because they start to catch feelings for me and I don’t want a relationship past a FB…but I remember this one little blond wanted me to come over EVERY day and we did it for hours at a time…I quit coming for a couple days and she wouldn’t even return my calls LOL…

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    • on June 27, 2014 at 9:29 am no

      …that’s funny because sometimes older guys tell me that they are having trouble with their performance..then I just tell them the problem is they need to get a younger prettier partner..

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  34. on June 27, 2014 at 10:12 am Anonymous

    Women don’t like noble, self-sacrificing men. Women are not civilized like we are. They like bloodshed. They like forceful men.

    William Powell – Double Wedding – 1937

    from before society forgot everything.

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  35. on June 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm ternarydaemon

    It is always amazing how women correctly act on instinct yet fail to act correctly on a rational manner. That is why many betas have problems with women. The act in a rational way, when with women, you have to act like a predator.

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  36. on June 27, 2014 at 10:13 pm Sevron

    Speaking of women who have heard too many compliments, check out this slam pig:
    https://www.facebook.com/ChelseaLeeM?fref=nf

    She wrote this article:
    http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-manasseri/2014/06/5-ways-to-be-more-attractive-to-whomever-you-want-to-sleep-with/

    I’ve rarely seen a hamster run so long or hard. I would LOVE to see the man or men who have had to stoop to fuck her.

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  37. on June 28, 2014 at 12:28 pm ng85

    “You can sometimes pry nuggets of truth from women, but it requires a facility with comprehending subtext. Women will drop clues revealing their true feelings stuffed between over-sized cushions of egoistic pabulum.”

    I’ve found that the best way to get insight into the hamster is to get them jealous. I used to have a REALLY jealous girlfriend who would get pissed if I even looked at a girl. Sometimes we’d be in social situations where I’d talk to a girl and it seemed innocuous. But being a female she could spot signs that a girl was flirting with me, and she’d usually yell at me and tell me what the girl was doing for the purposes of hoping I’d eject from any interaction with a girl doing these signs. Among these were girls playing with their hair, being quick to touch my arm, or who laughed at everything I said. But now that I knew these girls were flirting I ended up flirting back, so her entire plan backfired.

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  38. on June 28, 2014 at 2:18 pm H8 Machine

    Say “what’s up, fatso?” to an obviously fit and attractive girl and see what happens.

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  39. on June 28, 2014 at 8:26 pm surjourner

    Regarding make-up; personally I dislike it.

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  40. on June 30, 2014 at 8:33 am Just Saying

    Every now and then women, will tell the truth when they are complaining – women love to complain. The key is to give them something to complain about – the first guy didn’t give her a reason to complain. Any other woman would criticize her for complaining about the guy, so she ditched him, for one that she can complain to other women about.

    I learned long ago – give her something to complain about, let her show other women how much “sh*t” she has to put up with to be with you. That is the currency that women trade in – the smart man, always gives the women he’s seeing a reason to complain. The smartest men, give her something of his choosing for her to complain about that subtly benefits him.

    Don’t criticize women for being exactly what you want them to be. I enjoy them all the time, but I always do it on my terms. That is what is key – control the interaction, and always position yourself. I can’t tell you how many women have advertized me to their more attractive female friends. Whereas a man will say, “I need a women just like so-and-so.” A woman will think, “I want THAT man.” Especially if she thinks the woman complaining is more attractive then she is. And all women are insecure – so give her a reason to complain – it will benefit you in the end.

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  41. on July 1, 2014 at 7:47 am gig

    Compliments breed complacency. Critique breeds conciliation. A woman will never work as hard for a man’s approval as when his approval is most elusive

    Even a single compliment amid a whole series os critiques will harm the relationship a lot.

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