A particular paradox of the sexual market is one that works in the favor of men. More precisely, men with balls. It’s what I call the “Prime Pussy Paradox”.
Reader Scott explains,
I’m 48 years old, overweight, and out of practice after being married for 20 years. But I’ve still never understood the fear of approaching women. In my younger days, I dated roommates at the same time, a Playboy model, and regularly bagged ladies in the 8-10 range.
Now I have a 24 year old son. I told him when he was a teenager, that the easiest way to get a hot chick to go out with you is to simply ask. Since most guys are too wimpy to approach a 9 or 10, it is actually the girls in the 6-8 range that get hit on the most. In reality, 10′s get hit on less, and are easier to pick up than the less attractive girls in the 6-8 range.
That is the honest truth – believe it or not.
I believe it, because I’ve experienced the same. As have many of my player buddies. That sexy 8 will give you a warmer smile and more feminine charm than that ego-inflated 6 with a chip on her shoulder who’s had to deflect the horny intrusions of a hundred middling beta males who thought that 6 would be easy pickings.
The Prime Pussy Paradox states that the very hottest girls – high 8s, 9s and 10s — get hit on less frequently and by fewer men than do women in the “pump&dumpable” or “cute” range from 4 to 7s, and that this male approach skew psychologically grooms the hotter girls to be more excited when a man does boldly hit on them. The essence of the PPP is that hot girls are often MORE APPROACHABLE than cute or, god forbid, plain girls.
Why is the PPP a valid concept? The intersection of a woman’s self-esteem (modulated by her intrinsic hotness and the male attention she expects to get based on her self-perceived hotness) and a man’s sexually entitled boldness is where love explodes. A handy graph visualizes the phenomenon.

The black line represents a hot woman with unmodified self-esteem; that is, self-esteem which exists in a sexual market with perfect mate information flow where she gets exactly the amount of attention that her looks should theoretically command.
Naturally, such a world doesn’t exist, because men don’t make a decision to approach based entirely on a woman’s looks. Men also internally calculate their risk of rejection and their own courtship savviness. Which is where the red and green lines fit in. A woman with immoderately high self-esteem (green line) — i.e., a woman who thinks more of her mate value than her looks inform — will be a tough rut to shellac. A man would need to be very bold (and skilled) to hurdle the huge cockblock that is her bloated self-esteem.
A woman with immoderately low self-esteem (red line) — i.e., a woman who thinks less of her mate value that her hotness would conceivably suggest — will be an easier target than presumed, and who won’t require preternatural reserves of boldness to seduce. These women are a dying breed in America, (bloated self-esteems, along with bloated bodies, are the growing female demographic), but they do exist, and happily enough, they exist in surprisingly disproportionate number among the very hottest women whom men imagine are the least likely to have lower-than-expected sexual-esteems.
Like an information bottleneck in the stock market, the PPP is a sexual market vulnerability which can be exploited by fearless men with insider connections. 9s and 10s (and most 8s) don’t get conspicuously hit on as much as 4s, 5s, 6s, and 7s. Consequently, hot girls tend to harbor stirrings of doubt about their SMV. Their egos (and love lives) hunger for proof of validation, and they gorge on the rare direct attentions of bold men who aren’t afraid of or humbled by their beauty.
There are limits to the PPP exploit. Very low SMV men won’t be able to capitalize on it with the same profitability as moderate SMV men. The sweet spot is a man one to three SMV points lower than the hot girl, and who acts with the prerogative of a man with equal (sex-adjusted) SMV to the hot girl. Male 6s and 7s (as ranked along male-specific measurements of attractiveness) who approach with the bold intention of a male 9 can “shock” a female 9 into aroused curiosity.
Now some of you are wondering, “Don’t hot girls get a lot of leers from admiring men?” Sure, but female self-esteem operates as a more complex feedback system than male self-esteem. A female 9 will receive ten times the number of head snaps from men than will a female 7 (it’s exponential), but she’ll also receive ten times FEWER the number of intentional approaches from men than will the female 7. Women register the glances from afar, but the bold approach is so unmistakable in intention that it counts for more as a self-esteem boosting factor.
Hot women, experiencing a relative paucity of men hitting on them compared to that experienced by mediocre-looking women, tend as a result to carry less ego-stroked baggage. They are more grateful, and more interested, when a man dares to pierce their bubble of hotness. To approach such a beauty as she, why this man must truly be worth her company!

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I’ve been trying to perfect what I call ‘the look’ It’s basically a very direct but with ever so slightly squinted eyes, what i’ve heard termed bedroom eyes, gaze in a very high smv woman’s eyes. It’s an acknowledgement of sorts of her status and an confirmation to her of my own confidence. I’ll deliver this right before starting the conversation. Works really well. Also use it when noticing a married woman’s ring. Kind of the ‘i know whats up but I dont really care’
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This is anecdotally true for me, as well. My ex-wife was a hard 9. Glances and admiring looks aplenty, but nary a gent brave enough to approach until I chatted and neg’ed her.
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Why is she now your “ex”? Any children involved?
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Shane~
She crossed a line I had clearly drawn in the sand. No kids. She still wants to “get together” 😉 We are on very amenable terms now.
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So she realized her real SMV and decided to love the cock? You let a Hard 9 go because only after you got married did she realize her value? If so, you have failed.
You could have renamed this post “my wife is a hard 9” in 2 easy steps.
1) After marrying her I physically dominated her on the reg. Hard choking, nearly asphyxiating her during orgasm so she was uncertain if she’d just have a thermonuclear big O or would die trying.
2) You couldn’t maintain the longevity. Which means you forgot the alpha approach and neg in the long term, or simply couldn’t walk your talk (i.e. maintain frame) past the opening salvo.
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@zombie it’s because he talks like this
“admiring looks aplenty, but nary a gent brave enough”
lol
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It’s one thing to have an “ex” if it were a fruitless marriage. But anyone who tries to take my chilluns away from me is going to have their corpse dumped in a swamp for the crayfish and the snapping turtles to feast on.
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Does This Paradigm work in reverse?
I am asking because I consider myself to be a 7 or a strong 8 on the SMV scale ( Or So I Think) but I always seem to be approached by heavy set woman and woman in the 4-6 range,
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baby-face neckbeard scores the winning goal in the World Cup – haha I love it! Deutschland Uber Alles
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try this and you’ll have no doubt that was CH says here is true.
i’m ashamed to say that during a very dark time in my life, i used this tactic to check on a couple girls i was seeing. i don’t recommend it or condone it but it did give me more info than i could have gotten otherwise. i wouldn’t do it again and i’m not suggesting you use this as a method of picking up chicks but i think it proves the point of this post.
create a profile on facebook or a dating site with very little info about yourself. don’t even include a profile pic. this is important because it will limit any preference biases you might encounter with regard to appearance, occupation, etc.
message two girls. one that is an obvious 8, 9 or better and the other a 6, 7 or lower. it might be fun to try this on girls you already know. it doesn’t matter what you say as long as you’re implying interest and saying the same thing to both of them.
you’ll be catching these girls off guard and they will likely think you are a creeper and shut you down immediately. don’t be too creepy of course but don’t stress too much about what you say either. it’s not that important. if you get an in and want to go for it, do it. but that isn’t the point of this exercise.
what matters is how they respond in the exact same circumstance. both of these girls are likely getting plenty of attention from other guys on facebook or other social media (all girls do) so they are used to shutting guys down. pay attention to how they do it.
i’ll bet my left nut, the hotter girl is polite and gracious when she rejects you or tells you to leave her alone (if she does) while the lesser girl hits you with defensive interrogation or some other bitch defense.
you can thank me later.
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Heh. It’s gotten to the point where I will only hit on young (college-age) girls north of HB7. They’re friendly, easy to talk to, and on top of it, looking back to my lesser beta days, were far less likely to hold it against me and complain about me if I did make an awkward pass at them.
In addition, because I know I want them, my approaches on hotties are more natural and fluent, whereas if they’re of middling attractiveness, I start to feel awkward as I think to myself, “umm yeah [a la Bill Lumbergh], do I really, actually want this one?” — which, again, causes them to put their creep shields up.
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“because I know I want them, my approaches on hotties are more natural and fluent, whereas if they’re of middling attractiveness, I start to feel awkward as I think to myself, “umm yeah [a la Bill Lumbergh], do I really, actually want this one?” — which, again, causes them to put their creep shields up.”
^this ^this ^this.
with HB8+ my analytical brain shuts off and I’m running on pure instinct. everything just flows because all my other systems acknowledge I’m doing exactly what I should be doing. totally in the moment, nothing to second guess, perfect frame, oozing T, qualifying her. HB8+ makes it easy because she’s comfortable being a woman which makes me comfortable.
fatties despise you for talking to them (they disgust themselves and should by extension disgust you) and it’s impossible to enter the flow state with them because you are fighting your ancient biological programming.
save the thinking for work. only talk to HB8+ and surrender to the flow.
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“whereas if they’re of middling attractiveness, I start to feel awkward as I think to myself, “umm yeah [a la Bill Lumbergh], do I really, actually want this one?”
+1
Every day i step out doors in Washington DC.
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the graph doesn’t make much sense (axes not mutually independent), but it’s fun to see the dancing cock cartoon again.
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unattractive people are rude with good looking people, i am good looking, in my former english class, there was: a hot female teacher, a cute girl, an average looking guy but with light eyes and a lot charming, a really hot guy O.o I am introverted so unless i am really motivated i wait for people to talk to me. But all those 4 people were gone after time, and the class was composed of unattractive people later, and i wasn’t trying to be rude with the remaining, but i noticed how they built a Wall against me, i don’t give a shit about their lives, but it affected me because i didn’t have a good time there for 2 hours, so i leave that class, sometimes the uglier people are rude
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Why didn’t you just tell the really hot guy you were a dirty mestizo gay male pretending to be a weeaboo jap worshipper and would love to suck his cock off on the regular? Would have made your life easier homo. Here to help…
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It’s because you’re GAY…GAY I SAY!
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For example the attitudes of my 2 teachers were the opposite 😦 the hot one was really friendly with everyone, and with me as well, and some few times i noticed how she put special attention to me, she used to say bye with a kiss in our cheek 🙂 ,then the new teacher came, much less hot than the other, but at least the new one was friendly in the beginning and make things to feel ok, but later she realized who was in the level and place, and her favorite students became some of the remaining bad looking ones xD see the difference? so bye bye to that lame class 😛
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Me middle-aged, bald tho self-proclaimed and proven star at work.
22 year old 8 checks out the tie and shirt combo. “You look good in black and silver.”
Me: “I look good in everything.”
Thanks, CH.
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So, what happened next? Number close? Big deal, you had a one-liner. What was your next move?
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CH— What is happening here? Did you detonate a “dirty bomb” full of pixie dust recently? Not kidding brah—
1st comment- had a “hard 9” (really? really!) ex-wife he lost to umm, whatever….
2nd comment- Mexican cocksmoker who wishes he was a Jap cocksmoker for reasons I cannot still understand.
3rd comment- middle aged bald dude who thinks his job matters against his game when he is being fitted for a suit at Men’s Wearhouse.
PRO TIP— She wants to make the sale. Your lack of follicular mass, track record at work, and advancing age, are anathema to her. She will, however, take your paycheck ‘proven star’, whilst taking it in the ass from the 19 year old drug dealer she gets her molly from. No charge, for this tip, even though I -should- charge you.
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OT, but here’s something i came across the other day made me laugh
even a guy with a lambo can’t pull the cute girls, don’t matter what you got, it matters what you GOT lol
http://imgur.com/vyUl2fu
http://imgur.com/m77BlEA
the first hashtag is #friends
buddy’s got blue balls for sure poor lil guy
chick is decent looking, feminine in person and got pretty tight big titties
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as a follow up when i was typing this out, check out her page again and buddy sent flowers to her work! AND got her a designer bag!
to which she displays for all the world to see what her #friend is doing for her lololololololzzzzzzzzzzzzzz figure it out bud!!!
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“Consequently, hot girls tend to harbor stirrings of doubt about their SMV. Their egos (and love lives) hunger for proof of validation, and they gorge on the rare direct attentions of bold men who aren’t afraid of or humbled by their beauty.”
You don’t need a fragile ego or SMV-insecurity to be nice. Some beautiful girls are nice because they DON’T have a fragile ego. They don’t take an approach by an average looking guy as an affront or a suggestion of lower value (“if this guy thinks he has a chance with me, I must not be that attractive!”), because they know they are high value already. It’s not overinflated ego, it’s just healthy self-esteem.
So I’d say girls with healthy self-esteem are the approachable ones. But sure, these will tend to be the more attractive girls.
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The thing with self-esteem is that in today’s America, 6’s and 7’s think of themselves as 12’s, and even 4’s and 5’s have attitudes not even an 8 would be able to get away with under normal circumstances.
In the 8-10 range, they pretty much know exactly that they hold ALL the cards and aren’t the least bit affected by guy number 453 of the evening being not quite up to par.
Guys number 454-468 will be better.
That was a lot of math…..
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Agree. It’s usually the hotter ones that can be surprisingly nice. I think it’s because they assume you have hella high value because you approach directly (at least during the day).
It’s almost like being in the VIP section of the club. Just by being there you are default higher value and get treated as such.
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The author of this piece is assuming that 4-6’s are meaner because they have higher self esteem on account of being hit on so much.
It hasn’t occurred to him that their unapproachability might be due to ax to grind wallflower resentiment issues.
OR that he has mistook a common wallflower mating strategy of acting like a stuck up princess (trying to trick men into thinking she’s “all that” by acting the part) for being genuinely stuck up.
It’s a strategy that 8-10’s seldom perceive the need to employ hence them being easier to approach.
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“a common wallflower mating strategy of acting like a stuck up princess (trying to trick men into thinking she’s “all that” by acting the part) for being genuinely stuck up.”
that’s an interesting perspective. maybe it isn’t all about bitter hurt defensiveness. some or all of it could be an attempt to come off as higher value. like the girl’s version of peacocking.
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True dat. Just go for it.
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“‘Jerkitude’…you should do a post on this.”
Why? We have your blog for a reference point.
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The answer to the question of why women go out with “jerks”: because nobody else asked.
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probably plays a big part.
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Maybe a starring role 🙂
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i wouldn’t go that far. jerks also exude jerkitude, which explains a lot of their star wattage.
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‘Jerkitude’…you should do a post on this.
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Fogey, just browse the archives. The posts on chicks digging jerks are legion.
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lol Jerk appeal can only be achieved when one’s alphatude has reached cruising level 🙂
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Amy,
I have Patrician Frame, as my daughter’s bf attested. There’s no jerk like a patrician jerk. I claim Lord’s Right with you. heh
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Kate,
Actually, I meant my last comment for you, but I’ll take Amy, too. Won’t it be cozy, the three of us together? heh
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I’ve just assessed the first three posts here tonight and have decided I need to become the angel of death, because for some reason I cannot comprehend, readership has gone FULL RETARD. Never go full retard…
theasdgamer said—
“Kate,
Actually, I meant my last comment for you, but I’ll take Amy, too. Won’t it be cozy, the three of us together? heh”
Heh! Yes HEH!!! I read CH, I have a daughter with a BF which makes me at least the following—
1) Old as fuck, I have a teenage daughter!
2) Old as fuck, I have a Patrician Frame (dafuq?)
3) Dire delusions of threesomes with women who are, wait for it… wait for it… -completely average- but haunt CH or other ‘manosphere’ sites, but I’m SURE I have a chance.
You have to, you MUST understand, why natural alphas look down on many readers, old and young.
I was 19 years old when I didn’t wish for on the internet (barely existed at that time) but walked up to the 16 yo chick that was sweating me in my neighborhood. Met her downstairs, drunk as fuck both of them. Her and her ‘best friend’. They both started kissing me, each other, and then started sucking my cock. This at 19 was my first true introduction to the completely fatherless American Girl. WHERE WERE THEIR DADS?!?!
At 19, I didn’t care and enjoyed such worship and shot DNA they would, to this day, die for had they been smarter back then. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, right into your womb. But Americawhores don’t plan for the future, so I just provided facial spunk, which they loved. I don’t know the fate of the 2nd whore, but I know the 1st one is a manager at Denny’s now. She is 32. End of Line….
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Jay in DC, you are taking this waaaay too seriously. The comments seeeemed funny right when I posted them but not funny two seconds later. Meh
Are you saying that you look down on posters or that I do by posting unfunny jokes? If you think you are superior to me and others who post here–whatever floats your boat.
If you think that age means 5h!t, you need to read a lot more CH field reports. Age only impacts fitness. If a man stays fit, he can stay hawt until about 70. If he moves like a young man, he’ll be seen as young.
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Jay in DC,
Another thing. Patrician Frame has nothing to do with age. It is based on real reasons for confidence and a dab of entitlement. It’s about status.
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An experienced player recently noted: “…the girls who have treated me the best had merely slightly above average beauty.”
What do you make of that, Mr. Jay in DC?
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you can’t get treated better by anyone other than the hottest chick you can get it means more
the hottest chicks also do more for you when they in lurve
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you might be onto something here. some of the hottest chicks i know settled down with asshole high school boyfriends and left everyone scratching their heads wondering why they would do that when they had so many other options.
i know i wasn’t asking these girls out so other guys probably weren’t either. the only guys with the balls to ask out them out were the jock assholes with giant egos.
some of these girls don’t even have a clue how many guys are into them either. i remember talking to one girl at a high school reunion and she was telling me that she didn’t think any guys were into her or that she was very popular. she was a knock out and still is. she had no idea how many of us were drooling over her turning our teen years.
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Right. The other options weren’t making themselves apparent. So, from the woman’s perspective, then, there *were* no other options. Unspoiled women bond very easily, and the rest is history. As my recent fortune cookie said, “Fortune sides with him who dares.”
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Right. The other options weren’t making themselves apparent.
That’s another thing: hot girls always have a boyfriend (and if they don’t, they either broke up recently, or are odd.) Many men shy away when they hear this, but it simply means it’s the available guy that she’s with in case she doesn’t run into anyone better. Boyfriends are not husbands.
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@corvinus: that is true. That’s why the advice to guys about not being a “rebound” is so stupid. If the girl is hot you’ll always be a rebound. She’ll always be either in a relationship, “involved” with someone, or trying to get over someone, etc.
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A friend’s daughter is – like her mother back in the day – a real head-turner – tall, model looks – but quite shy/reserved so probably appears unapproachable. She spent two years in a Brit “sixth form college” without being asked out. First boyfriend at age 19.
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but quite shy/reserved so probably appears unapproachable.
Yeah, if they’re shy, they need rely either on extroverted men who do cold approaches and know how to draw a girl into a conversation, or give out more IOIs such as a smile and an open demeanor. I personally avoid shy girls because they’re draining to game.
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They know exactly how popular they are. Especially in high school, this is what defines their very existence. They just ignore the guys they don’t want, meaning anyone who isn’t the captain of the football team with the rich daddy.
But they are perfectly well aware of the fact that 90% of the male school population is drooling over them.
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you might be onto something here. some of the hottest chicks i know settled down with asshole high school boyfriends and left everyone scratching their heads wondering why they would do that when they had so many other options.
You know, I’m one to consistently advise people not to cheat. But I have to say – you’ve spoken of a particular demographic of women here who, if given an inconspicuous avenue to cheat – will absolutely cheat and love it. Those ‘asshole high school boyfriends’ whose lives peaked at age 18 have a tendency to get soft in the middle while withdrawing so much that the woman (wife) actually disconnects from him emotionally (too much indifference – and that takes a long time to counter-productively establish).
A lot of these women are 7s and 8s around age ~28-33, ostensibly not available, but as ripe for the pickin’ as the fruits and vegetables in a mid-July backyard garden. Try talking to one of these women *with her husband* right there and see how childishly defensive he gets towards you, even as you are politely normal and friendly towards him as well. Sans red-pill awareness, it’s a shocking tell.
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“Try talking to one of these women *with her husband* right there and see how childishly defensive he gets towards you”
this is the truth.
these are the guys who threaten and throw temper tantrums when you talk to or glance sideways at their girls. they never evolved from their bullying days in high school and haven’t realized that everyone else grew up while they stayed the same. that natural alpha power that they had when they were young is useless now because it was too easy for them and they never learned how to control it or evolve with it.
you can see the pain in these girls faces while they sit there thinking of being stuck with boys when all they really want is men.
you’re right about these women being ripe for the picking. you wouldn’t even have to play asshole aloof game on these chicks. they’ve had that already. you could swoop in and give them…anything that is the opposite of the stupid shit they get from their man-child husbands and you’ll be golden.
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That would be a shit test young grasshopper
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Jerk appeal is achieved when a moisture seeking missile approaches your landing strip and detonates.
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Not sure about this particular chestnut, at least not in NYC where being a 9/10 has real value (both monetary and lifestyle) with multimillionaires trying to take you on their private planes to places, club promoters always up your butt, etc.
Now that I’ve started approaching women in large numbers during the day, I gotta tell you that the super top-tier chicks are definitely MORE likely to give me the cold shoulder, not less. The worst are super well-maintained, bauble-encrusted trophy chicks in their early 30’s (thankfully and ironically, younger girls tend to be much friendlier and more open, at least to my mid-20’s, non-millionaire ass). And I’m well above avg in terms of my looks, confidence, and charm.
That fatherly advice is still sound, in the sense that you should still approach and see what happens, but the super hot chicks I’ve dated, etc. have guys nipping at their heels in every facet of their lives, pretty much all the time.
There are, of course, microcosmic examples of this where no guys at a given bar will try and hit on a super hot chick, but safe bet she gets hit on plenty overall, and her self esteem is doing just fine.
[CH: i don’t believe you. call it intuition.]
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> “super well-maintained, bauble-encrusted trophy chicks”
CH, I’d have to side with him here – there’s a certain kind of extremely upper crust [or would-be upper crust] elitist nihilist chick who’s carrying around a real Jekyll & Hyde routine within her psyche – stone cold silence around people whom she senses to be beneath her, and bubbly enthusiastic flirting around people whom she senses could be manipulated into helping her climb the social ladder even further. I’d say go “hard neg” on her, but, realistically, the creme-de-la-creme of elitist nihilists often won’t even acknowledge that you’ve spoken to them [even if it’s a really hilarious hard neg] – if they sense that you are beneath them, then they will act as though you aren’t even there, as though you are simply talking to yourself. It’s a very non-Western orientalistic caste-system approach to life. And decidedly un-American and anti-Christian.
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And if you do throw an hilarious hard neg at her, and if she ignores you, then ratchet it up a notch and scream the same hard neg at her again so that everyone in the hallway/store/bar/restaurant/airport/wherever can hear you, and then top it off with a “YEAH I’M TALKING TO YOU, LITTLE MISS FAKE TITS/SADDLE PANTS/BONY ASS/CAMEL TOE/WHATEVER! BITCH!!!”
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[CH: i don’t believe you. call it intuition.]
I believe him — it’s because he’s going after old bitter aging poon:
The worst are super well-maintained, bauble-encrusted trophy chicks in their early 30′s (thankfully and ironically, younger girls tend to be much friendlier and more open, at least to my mid-20′s, non-millionaire ass).
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> “old bitter aging poon”
You guys obviously haven’t spent any time around seriously upper crust elitist nihilist society – it doesn’t have anything to do with age. Try hitting on some HB10 millionairess dyke who is dressed in a $25,000 outfit carrying a $15,000 hand bag and getting picked up on the curb by her HB10 billionairess dyke “wife” driving a Ferrari. THEY WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR EXISTENCE. It’s a completely different world – if you haven’t seen that Darkness up close and personal, then you have no idea how truly evil it is. This ain’t Eisenhower Administration American anymore. Stay the hell away from the Darkness.
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CH: I dunno what to tell you, but that’s how it is in the trenches. Gratifying that other commenters agree.
Corvinus, et al: I mostly go after younger girls, being a biological male and all, but I recently more-or-less vanquished my approach anxiety by going up to dozens of chicks a day (sometimes the required # was 50, sometimes less), for months, doing GoodLookingLoser’s AA program, and hence widened my net to include the aformentioned, still-very-attractive (albeit wall-bound), bitter rich aging poon just to hit the numbers, and also because I find them intimidating for all the reasons ZomebieShane stated. They’re by no means my wheelhouse, partly because I like college chicks more, and partly because they won’t have me.
Zombieshane: Yes to all that.
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Meh. Who cares about rich dykes anyway?
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For the record – I am NOT talking about the hawtest blond in the hawtest sorority in the biggest party school in the state – she’s just going to marry into some prole family which owns a car dealership or several dozen restaurant franchises or a regional real estate development corp or some other prole nonsense like that. I’m talking elitist nihilist chicks from corridors like Palo Alto/SF or Malibu/Newport or NYC/Greenwich or similar – bitches who are flown to Aspen or Martha’s Vineyard for the weekend in personal Gulfstreams or 737s. Dark, Dark, Dark people who live lives unlike what normal folk can even imagine.
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your stumbling around it but close… a hot woman in her early 30’s… 2 hot women basicallyy the same, ones 20 the other is 30… the 20 yr old has higher SMV. A 30yr old will get hit on more by betas or worse thus giving her an inflated self worth thus making her not nice. a 30 yr old is well into the decline of her fertility and ironically most in need of beta bucks. fertility treatments are not cheap. the nicest chicks have had the highest SMV in my experience.
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I would love to hear @kant’s take on this,
esp. since he said about NYC:
“[…]the main girl from the blurred lines video is within my social circle, and she’s a normal level of attractiveness at these venues”
back in May on teh Night Game Is Dying post,
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/05/09/why-night-game-is-dying/#comment-560853
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Pretty much agree with DangerWolf.
A truly hot woman (8+) will get hit on several times, dozens of times, perhaps even hundreds of times a day, depending on her degree of social exposure.
Thousands, if she’s online in some fashion or other.
When a stunner enters one of my haunts, there’s almost literally a line of guys, who descend upon her like piranha on a drowning cow.
In a somewhat odd twist, there may be an even fiercer competition for the middle-aged women (30-40-something) who still have the goods than there is for the young hotties.
This may be because there are a LOT of guys 30+ who either know or think they have no shot with the young’uns or who have been cowed and brow-beaten into viewing any woman more than 2 years their junior as a ‘forbidden fruit’.
Based on many of the posts and comments I read here, I’m guessing that most of you live in the NE US and run in what may be loosely called ‘hipster’ circles a lot. I’m glad that in these parts, that culture is limited to the gay ghetto and the University.
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if you needed to do 50 plus approaches a day to unfuck yourself…. then ya, these probably are your experiences.
props for the work, but there is a Zen, a difference between skill and art that may inform a more shall we say “qualified” opinion 😉
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@Dangerwolf
Dude, I’ve now done 700+ approaches and regardless of age, race, or SWPL-itude the more attractive women have always been more kind to me.
Besides her apparent receptivity, one of my biggest criteria for choosing to go direct on a girl is her physical attractiveness: hotter girls eat up openers like “excuse me – you are sexy! What’s your name?” (yes, I’ve used that. usually results in an instant date). Average girls look at you like you’re a liar or some sort of deranged lunatic.
Check your method. Maybe you’re doing something to inspire bitter responses. You mentioned that you’re above average in looks, confidence, and charm; if that assumption is accurate, maybe you need to approach even hotter girls or soften the alpha thing. I’ve read that average looking women can be bitchy to hot dudes because they assume he’s going for the “PandD”.
@Chateau, @kate
Anyway, as for the point of this article, I feel as though while hotter women are more receptive, it’s not like their interest is then sexual. As I stated, I’ve done 700+ approaches now and only had a single “day 2” and nothing more, so take this work a grain of salt. I know most people aren’t me and will not strike out that miserably.
Anyway, I’ve had plenty of instant dates and gotten the number of quite a few hot girls. All were flakes, just like the other 699. Thing is, as opposed to the more average/cute girls, the hot girls’ interest never felt SEXUAL. It was almost as if they enjoyed my attention/personality and just didn’t want to discourage me from hitting on girls or something. It felt like they relished the opportunity to finally have a quick flirt. I’ll always remember this one hot girl said “I can tell you have a nice personality but I have to go blah blah blah. You should keep talking to girls though, seriously.” I heard that a few more times from other hot chicks.
See, I think the hot girls just recognize that with their SMV power comes greater responsibility. Can you imagine having the guts to approach a 10 and then she obliterates you publicly? Most guys don’t have the balls to approach – I mentioned this to a hot girl and her hot sister after approaching her direct. She laughed and said “yuuuuuup,” Most regular self-esteem truly beautiful women don’t want to scar a man for life lol. People kill themselves for things like that these days. Also, beautiful people in general are treated better throughout their life, on average, so they *may* have more positive expectations of your intentions. I.e. “aww he likes me” versus a feminist’s “ewww PATRIARCHY”
I think this PPP effect can make a guy waste his time approaching hot women who will be receptive, yet not sexually interested. My experience in field has told me that I am not a 5. Sure that hottie will chat, laugh, give a number, instant date. But she wont bang. Maybe Chateau is right and that changes once you’re a seven. Goodlookingloser seems to think so too.
Still, I say you should approach hot girls. They will most likely be nice to you.
@Kate
I agree with you to a point about “jerks ask.” However, that girl I mentioned above friend-zoned me after I approached her direct and passed all her shit-tests (she invited me into her group to have a seat and chat, got me free drinks from other dudes, etc.). Why? She straight up told me “I only date assholes.”
I reflected. My game was too nice, even though I passed the checkpoints (I think). For example, she demanded “buy me a drink.” I said, “I have no money for you…only love :)” and then pulled her in for a side hug. She melted for a second – soft eye contact, true smile – then said “are you an idiot.” LOL. I said “Sort of. Hopeless romantics do crazy things. But I can tell that deep down inside…beneath that hard front…you are a BIG SOFTIE” and poked her in the belly. That’s when she invited me to sit and then friend zoned me a bit later. FUUUUUUUUUUU
If I had been an huge funny asshole (“No, YOU buy me a drink :)” or “Fuck you :)” ) things might have gone differently. Actually, sometimes I think that might be a problem with my game. I’m not abrasive enough.
On a side note, experienced players, what are your thoughts on a 700 approach losing streak…any of you go on to be a success after a hellish experience like that/this? I’m thinking of giving it a few more months, mostly because of sunk costs.
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The problem is inside of you.
It’s because deep down you feel they are above you in SMV, and that you’re not quite up there.
They pick it up from you, hence the flakes.
You’re trying TOO hard. Let it go. Don’t waste valuable time on niceness and pleasantries and jokes. Reserve your affection for girls you’re fucking. In fact, don’t waste your breath on non-prospects. Walk away.
To seduce them, just seduce them. Approach, hard negs, quick comfort, physical comfort, kiss, pull, fuck. Rinse & repeat.
When you start valuing yourself above them, they will follow.
Good work on taking action though.
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Outer game wise… You could tighten your game too. Less words. As few as possible.
She: I only date assholes
You: Who asked?
She: are you an idiot?
You: Excuse me?
How’d you respond to a low grade employee in your company? Terseness is your single greatest ally.
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First of all, kudos on your 700 approaches. That’s impressive. Second, quora’s dialogue is good. It made me laugh and I’m not even a hotgirl, just a selfdesignatedsoundingboard and very easily amused 🙂 I can’t believe you poked her in the belly. lolololol That took guts 😉
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“Can you imagine having the guts to approach a 10 and then she obliterates you publicly? ”
[Yoda]
“That…..is why you fail….
[/Yoda]
You will learn, eventually, not to give a shit about being “obliterated” publicly, and when you do, that will be HUGE mojo. In the meantime, ask yourself, if you were to be so obliterated (and that’s not going to happen that often; most girls who aren’t feeling you are going to try to be polite about it) would you rather get scorched by a 10 or a 6?
On the off chance that you get a girl who is having an off day, or who is just plain mean, first, don’t get wrapped up in your self-worth being dependent on her not rejecting you, and second, handle it with dignity and failing that, humor–and never blow your cool. A couple of my favorite lines:
1. “You’re terrible at flirting”, and
2. “Are you trying to hurt my feelings?” (this, to be effective, must be delivered in a calm, bemused tone.)
If she continues down the road to “Bitch-a-Paooza” then you’re the guy who handles himself with confidence and aplomb and she’s the Crazy Bitch Who Yells. If she persists, throw out a non-sequitur distraction, such as pointing over her shoulder and saying, “Oh, look! An eagle!” and then immediately turning on your heel, and if she follows (in which case I hope you have the SWAT team on speed-dial), simply hold out both hands in the “stop” position and say “You’re dismissed”, following up with “Begone!” with the “shooing” motion from your hands. When she is, turn to your wing man, or whomever is next to you and say, “What was I THINKING?”
Note: You will have to do none of this, at least past the first two options. I think the worst thing that ever happened to me was me saying #1 to a girl (who was actually trying to bogart my place in line at the bar; I wasn’t even trying to pick her up), and having her freak out and say, “I WASN’T FLIRTING WITH YOU! I WOULDN’T GO OUT WITH YOU IF YOU WERE THE LAST MAN ON EARTH!!!” at which point I administered the coup de grace, ‘Honey, if I were the last man on Earth….you wouldn’t even be allowed in line!”
At this point, my victory was complete. Even her friends were laughing at her, which indicates that they thought she was kind of a bitch, too. *shrugs*
À bientôt,
Mistral
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Byronicmate – Approach the hottest girl you see and ask her on a date to be your wingman.
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Dude. Kudos on the approaches and I agree with you about hot girls having some “great power comes great responsibility” stuff going on.
Having said that – I read your post and the first thing that occurs to me is “This guy has practiced his approaching and is pretty good at it now [hence all the numbers and instadates etc] but he needs to start working on the next stage – meetups, escalation etc”
The fact that you are not getting Day 2s, the fact that you don’t feel hot girl’s interest is sexual, the fact that you openly get turned down for not being enough of an asshole – it’s pretty obvious where your attitude weakness is, isn’t it?
Work on that. Don’t worry about approaching – your AA will never completely go but it’s clearly not your sticking point anymore.
You’ll be surprised at the results. (I keep a personal log of every time I’ve been out in the last couple years and it’s really interesting to see how I’ve evolved from focussing on approaches, to being in conversation, to being more sexual, to (currently) practicing my comfort/rapport skills, plus a little bit of sexualization).
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@quora
I agree with you about the “you feel they are above you in SMV, and that you’re not quite up there.” That’s absolutely true. Going out regularly and approaching with impunity the hottest girls in sight has revealed to me my true value.
So has making a dating profile, taking my BEST photos, and getting zero bites, despite not being a fatty.
It’s why I’m now working harder on my appearance/charisma than ever. This PPP effect works best for male “6 or 7” as Chateau said. Further proof that I’m not there yet. I think becoming and 6 or 7 is the only thing that could fix my mindset.
As for terseness yeah you make a good point – thank you
@Kate
Thanks.
@Mistral
Thanks for the encouragement. You destroyed that girl- good come back. I think you may not have understood my original point here:
“Can you imagine having the guts to approach a 10 and then she obliterates you publicly? ”
That was my attempt at explaining why some dudes are terrified to approach the hottest chick and the mindset that stops many hotties from reaming a beta’s butthole. It wasn’t me bemoaning the idea of approaching a true cutie
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‘On a side note, experienced players, what are your thoughts on a 700 approach losing streak…any of you go on to be a success after a hellish experience like that/this?’
I did somewhere between like 3-4 hundred approaches before I had anything resembling consistent success.
Now, maybe you’ve just approached 700 chicks who were all 8+ or something, idk.
I’d say don’t worry about, and occupy yourself with other pursuits on the side. Get in shape, etc. etc. Building an interesting life will give you a lot of natural DHV material (that you’ll be congruent to).
Biggest tip is to imagine yourself, but successful — how would you act/walk/talk, etc? Do that. I bet you’d be less cutesy and way more balls aggressive.
I suggest not wasting much time on these interactions. You can tell if she’s down or if there’s a spark or if it will go somewhere within about 3-5 minutes.
Terseness is your call. It works better/best when you already have high value to them. And honestly, making her laugh — you can do it, and it’s a path, but it’s not the only path. Like if you’re going to do cocky funny make sure it’s actually funny. But you don’t have to do CF.
May I ask how you look?
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@Scray
“Now, maybe you’ve just approached 700 chicks who were all 8+ or something, idk.”
Lol, nah man. You made me laugh with that one. If the sight of her doesn’t offend me, I’ll approach
“May I ask how you look?”
You can imagine a guy who’s:
Tom Cruise’s height
Not a bodybuilder, not fat – on the skinnier side. Maybe two girls complimented my physique upon cold approach (“you look ‘athletic’ “)
Sometimes I get compliments on my fashion/style/accessories. Sometimes.
Mild acne – no white heads though
Facial aesthetics are meh: wont make you cry tears of joy or hate. Almost average
“I suggest not wasting much time on these interactions. You can tell if she’s down or if there’s a spark or if it will go somewhere within about 3-5 minutes”
Guess I don’t have that yet, scray. Also, you caught me lol. I tend to burn the set into the ground until she goes on an instant date or outright rejects me
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@ Byron
the replys are great so far. I’ll add that despite approaching less than you and being far from a PUA I’d say that 700 approaches probably isn’t even that much. so keep it up.
put to scale: I’ve been playing guitar for three years now for approximately two hours a day. I’ve leveled up enough that I’ve maxed out my instructor(he only teaches beginners) and need to find a new one. I asked him where I’m at and he said he’d classify me as an amateur or lesser intermediate.
so at three years at two hours a day and I’m still considered at an amateur level by my instructor. 700 approaches is scratching the surface. keep it up
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@Mistral
Thanks for the encouragement. You destroyed that girl- good come back. I think you may not have understood my original point here….
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. Keep swinging away.
À bientôt,
Mistral
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Thanks a lot for giving that description.
I’d say that, based on what you’ve said here, it looks like you’re just on a bad run.
It’s quite possible that your 6-7 is like the average guy’s 8-9 tho. I mean, I get accused of that lol. But yeah, if I were you, I’d focus on just trying to do simple game. Just chit chat for a few minutes, try to get the number, and bounce. Stop pressing for the insta-date just yet.
I don’t even mess with that yet, just FYI. It’s very advanced to do correctly (at least for me it is….I know, I know I need to start pushing it). Focus on just getting good at securing Day 2’s, and then focus on getting good at having those Day 2’s turn into lays.
Trust me, you’re doing better than at least 95% of guys if you’re getting a girl to fuck you the third time she’s met you. 99% if you can get the bang on day 2.
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Read streetpickup.net and the post history of laserf0cus on reddit
Done
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@Charlie Don’t Surf
sure, will do
@Culum Struan
Thanks for the feedback there…it’s hard to see your own issues sometimes – lots of moving pieces.Day 2s are definitely on the hit list now. Good luck with the rest of your game pursuits
@Audspgheti
Thanks man – same to you. Tear that fret board up
@Scray
What ever works for you bro. If you don’t need instant dates to make a connection with a cutie then why bother? I only do because I noticed I-dates helped my response rate via text go from 0 to 0.0005
Caveat – my first date from cold approach was not with a girl that I instant dated. That REALLY made my scratch my skull so I follow your point about dropping them for a while
@immoralgables
Reading in progress ..
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oh, since I asked you how you look, I should describe myself also for accurate assessments:
I am a short black guy (although I say I am mulatto when asked to avoid stigma, just like I say I’ve posted here for years when I’ve only posted here for months) with a Mohawk and tattoos.
In terms of my personality, I am a self-admitted crybaby beta that has on record whined here that I am too short to get girls. I also frequently post text exchanges where I strike out with women that I refer to as ‘mini heartbreak girl’. I am trying my best to change; for example, I posted a story about how I harassed a girl that had just miscarried a baby, and thankfully the members here told me to stop bothering the poor girl because my social awareness isn’t at the level where I can figure such things out myself.
This is just in the interest of clarity.
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‘If you don’t need instant dates to make a connection with a cutie then why bother?’
Yeah that’s been my attitude. I always considered insta-dates, same day (or night) lays, as pushing the envelope of game. Not that it can’t be done or no one does it…but, it’s pretty high level stuff.
‘Caveat – my first date from cold approach was not with a girl that I instant dated. That REALLY made my scratch my skull so I follow your point about dropping them for a while’
My theory is that maybe you were less pressured. Just try some low pressure interactions. At the beginning of last summer I started posting about taking shit easier and just talking to people to shoot the shit without any goal in mind. It wasn’t long after that that things started to pick up. When you are relaxed and shooting the breeze, you’re at your best.
Shit, I’d go so far as to say toss out a lot of what you’ve read here for fun. Just do boring straight-laced ‘hey how are you?’ ‘hey, that’s cool….do you X or Y?’ All of that inner game stuff you’ve been practicing, just focus it on things like — strong body language, maintaining eye contact, a slight — but never supplicating — smile.
To my stalker-troll:
Whoever you are man….you have issues. But uh, thanks for bringing up the ‘mini-heartbreak’ girl who miscarried my baby. Does that make you feel good?
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i’d venture to guess that these hot girls in their 30s are giving you the cold shoulder simply because as you said, you are in your mid-20s and non-millionaire. you immediately come off as someone as who wants to pump and dump them.
despite what we see and hear in the media about cougars, most women are not interested in men that are much younger and less established than them. especially the super hot chicks who have options. they are looking for guys who have high value and they know they can get them. i’ve met plenty of hotties that were 30+ who were sweet as pie and grateful to be approached by a guy who has the balls to do it.
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CH— gonna break ranks here, like ZS “Not sure about this particular chestnut, at least not in NYC where being a 9/10 has real value (both monetary and lifestyle) with multimillionaires trying to take you on their private planes to places, club promoters always up your butt, etc.”
Although, at least in the case of ZS, I dunno how he captured this knowledge except through osmosis. NYC and LA bitches FOR SURE understand SMV. I’m tall, I’m model hot, I’m naturally blonde, blue, and young, 90% of planet earth wants to fuck a baby into me as they should. I’m dying, as a race, heritage, and culture, but FAR TOO DIM to care.
‘OMG, I just got off a Gulfstream Six, there was like umm, some chink band that put out a song talking about a Gee Six? Most people thought it was a Pontiac G6 but it is a private jet. An Arab Sheik just shot swarthy billionaire DNA into my pussy on the G6 flight, let’s see where it goes from here! Hashtag, Eurocuntforsale.
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How many billionaires are young? Aren’t you the same guy who thinks that age matters? Ya gotta get control of your Hamster.
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> “That sexy 8 will give you a WARMER SMILE and more FEMININE CHARM than that ego-inflated 6 with a chip on her shoulder”
I can’t get it up for any chick who can’t summon the will power to at least fake some cheerfulness. I don’t care who it is – Grace Kelly, Jane Fonda [an HB10 in her prime], Raquel Welch, Paulina Porizkova, Michelle Pfeiffer, Annette Bening, Monica Belluci, Megan Fox – if the bitch has a hateful dark demeanor about her, then as far as I’m concerned, she can eat dust. And that goes 1000000x for the hateful femcunt fatties. To hell with them and their Darkness. Bring on the chicks who are frigging CHEERFUL.
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Money has nothing to do with beeing cheerful – if anything it makes you more cheerful if you dont have to worry about next months rent payment.
If you encounter a lot of darkness in the world, maybe it is because you bring it with you.
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> “Raquel Welch”
Huh, tonight they just had a “best of” edition of the O’Reilly Factor, and there were some snippets of an old interview with Raquel, and if she isn’t the smokingly hawtest 70yo babe on the planet, then I’d love to know who is. My God that woman is a beauty for the Ages.
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You might also like Sophia Loren and Gina Lollobrigida.
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As a teenager seeing one of her movies on tv inspired a raucous jerking session.Yep she is HOT! In one scene she e was in a boat and had to jump.out suddenly.She did a backbone out the boa t with her panty encased butt exposed.Rick grabbing time
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she burns coal….
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Jane Seymour is still holding it together pretty well
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Huh, just read her wikipedia entry – Jane Seymour is a jewess who’s been through four husbands now. To her credit, though, she has pushed out four live births.
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yeah I’d hit it
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Yeah, she had that certain va-va-voom… but she died to me when she agreed to monkey sex in one of those dreadful Westerns of the late sixties or early seventies… I think it even had alleged alpha Burt Reynolds playing second fiddle to the spade… heh, the first subliminal cuckold porn flick masquerading as mainstream entertainment.
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I’m talking about Welsh, of course.
Seymour, meh… Doctor Quinn, scrawny JAP… a strong cuckold suggestion in that Bond flick with all the schwarzers too, if memory serves.
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I second this. I noticed that it’s always the girls who are cute but have some kind of flaw(s) that put them just below the alpha attention/fuck radar that display this darkness. They are bitter and angry that they are almost but not quite good enough to attract the prince. Very, very angry at the world because of it and their moods swing wildly. The 9’s are always going to be sweeter because they’ve had their alpha fucks, it’s old hat to them by 30. Then they wonder what would it be like with an average or below average guy with a nice personality, kind of a novelty item to them.
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If I have to choose between an HB1 with the heart of a saint, versus an HB10 with a heart of DARKNESS, then that’s a no-brainer for me: NO DARKNESS WHATSOEVER. On the other hand, I am [sadly, maybe tragically] becoming resigned to the reality of a certain Biological Calvinism in this world, which would tend to imply [among many other things] that facial beauty might – JUST MIGHT – correlate with spiritual “beauty”. It’s a horrible thought to ponder – that ugly women might also have been cursed [to a certain extent biologically] with ugly souls – but it’s a thought which has to be pondered.
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Now why the fuck would that be in moderation? I didn’t even say Chimpanzee or Armadillo or J*E*W.
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But the hot girls are always taken….
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If they have a boyfriend plough through.
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Then be the man who takes them away.
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If she’s been with him for more than 6 months – she’s available…
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There is a lot of truth to that statement. The need for external validation and “side attention” is strong for hot girls in long term relationships. You can turn the conversation sexual faster with a girl in a relationship (as long as there is clear rapport and IOIs first).
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No surprise really. The computation of one dimensional logic is an epidemic. We think we act on the world like some unique special soul when we often represent the market force. 10 other guys are doing the shoot low strategy.
Another thing I failed to do was actually look around at the boys in my day. If there are 3 unearthly beauties in the room , take a look around at the other men. Are there 3 far better than you? As the old saying goes, ya don’t have to out run the bear…
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Months ago I called out an 8/9, because she sticks out like a sore thumb in my enviroment, came across as ditzy but fucking smart… and I asked her point blank “What is your deal?”
She reacted like no other, and instantly took a liking to me. Shes a total flake over the time I’ve known her, and has a dozen yellow flags, and a few red ones, and tried to get her on some dates, even while I was dating another girl. She would ask questions and I would dodge.
Lately I asked her to a party, and she got in my bedroom laying on my bed. Up to this point I have never been this alone with her.
When a Girl lays on your bed without asking… Damn. So I went for it. I’m 5’6 and shes 6’1 and is 11 years younger than me. High Five muthafuckas!
So I feel that a girl out of my League, if they have a certain personality, I can’t help but hold back and be even more bold around them… because its a FANTASY I’m living. I assume it’s not even real… then shit happens and its funny.
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Qui audet adipiscitur.
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Kristen was very pretty in high school. Few friends and sat alone on the bus. I never had the guts to talk to her. At the 10 yr reunion, she’s there, with all the polished beauty of a near peak 27 yr old woman. I had to say something. I walk up to her and say, ‘I used to think you were such a bitch in high school.’ She laughed and said, ‘I’m not a bitch.’ We talked over a drink and she said I should come up to her room after the party for a little get-together. I ended up going elsewhere with old friends. Always regretted that. She ended up hosting episodes of Blind Date and RealTV. Learned major life lesson. Whoopie. Cheers.
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I will test this out. I’m much more random.
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Does this include cashiers? Barristas etc etc?
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Hot Ethiopian woman Uber driver… Chatting her up. Misses my exit.
Me: So, who’s bad idea was it to let women drivers drive for Uber.
Her: Laughing… That’s not fair. You made me nervous.
Me: I make all women nervous.
Her: I bet you do.
Me: If you don’t make it up to me, I’ll have to give you a bad review.
Her: Writes down her private number… Call me anytime you need a personal driver. Or even if you don’t.
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Well done. That was Alpha Uber Alles.
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Ethiopians = the Russians of Africa
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Yeah, but at the end of the day they’re still Africans.
Nothing to boast about here.
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Oh come off it. Have you looked at the facial features / bone structures of any Ethiopians? VERY different from sub-Saharan African in general.
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Getting a black “girl” is like getting the most ass at a BBW convention.
Even when you win, you lose.
Hehe, they’re probably the same thing.
Africa rape!
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Congrats, you picked up a black girl. For an even harder challenge, try picking up a quart of milk.
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all pink on the inside right.. right?
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lmao. RULE: ONLY SLEEP WITH HUMANS. BLACKS ARE NOT HUMAN.
Democrat rape!
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Heh, heh… hot Ethiopian… heh, heh.
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most guys are too wimpy to approach a 9 or 10
Yep… As I’ve told more than one guy, “What’s the worst thing that can happen? She says, ‘No’. If you don’t ask, you have the same result, so you literally have NOTHING to LOSE, and everything to GAIN.”
Guys still will ask me how I get such hot chicks – and the answer is still the same – because I approach them. Sure I’ve been shot down probably more than most guys, but I’ve bagged more chicks than most guys too… And the more you ask, the better you get – if you learn from your mistakes…
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Just saying:
Thank the shriveled balls of modern Western man for your access to the jewels of womanhood.
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“Thank the shriveled balls of modern Western man for your access to the jewels of womanhood.”
I would have to say that you are decidedly wrong. There are increasing numbers of men conducting major field tests with their gaming strategies. Perhaps if you would frequent less dive bars your eyes would be opened up more to that fact.
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mcg – the accuracy of your 2nd sentence illustrates why it is easier than ever for a bold but carefree man to fuck women who are ‘targets’ of the same men you reference.
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mcg:
We need game to be known and used by the majority of men, not a tiny, if increasing, minority. The mere fact that there are so many fat chicks around is proof enough. If women had incentives to stay thin, they would. But instead they have incentives to lard up: fat acceptance, thirsty men hitting on them, and so forth.
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“We need game to be known and used by the majority of men, not a tiny, if increasing, minority.”
Son, “game” has been used by most men WAY before the PUA’s on the Internet began plying their trade and selling their wares.
“If women had incentives to stay thin, they would.”
Define “thin”. Some of my homies prefer women who are “thicker”. I have had the pleasure of one or two in my day; depends how they look. More importantly, it is a matter of genetics in a number of cases for men and women regarding their high tub o’lard meter.
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Well I approach hot chicks alot and I get no where with them. They usually turn their backs, not talk back or “Sorry I gotta go.” I am not Brad Pitt but Im not a bad looking guy and stay in shape – so I am a 6 or 7. My fatal flaw is that I am short (5’5) so women just do not get into me. On the other hand I have friends that rarely approach and the women (a many pretty hot) approach them. They are all over 6ft. Its the tall guys that get the women.
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buy a motorcycle
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Being short isn’t nearly as limiting as it’s purported to be.
I’m an inch taller than you, but once I became confident in myself and got over my height insecurity, things became infinity better for me.
It’s nothing but a shot test to pass. Instead, have a large presence. Girls will tell me that,” I don’t seem short.”
Walk with your dick. Establish power poses. Own each room you walk in. Women will notice.
Walk around like Mussolini.
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Kevin and Reservoir Tip— don’t lie to yourselves PLEASE! Yes you -can- score under say 5’8″ but it requires HARD WORK.
Scary- case in point, not only is he absurdly short but he is a no confidence darkie. It took him a year + to overcome this handicap.
I’m 6 feet tall and when I was younger was a dead ringer for the young (think Platoon) Charlie Sheen, and now older a dead ringer for my same age Christian Bale.
I use to think -I- was tall at 6 feet. I’m a shorty. -Especially- if you are masochistic enough to go online for dating. I remember so many profiles from chicks under 5’5″ asking for “6′ to 7”, I use to have SO much fun firebombing match.com. So you are five foot, (all the way up to usually 5 inches+) but you need 6 foot 2+, so what you are saying is despite being very tiny, you need at least an 8 inch cock, but 11+ is your preference?
My profile didn’t last long.
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@Kevin – check this if you haven’t already – http://www.youtube.com/user/CupidShmupid
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Number 1 tip is to never hold in your emotions. If something pisses you off, just let it be known. I understand the cool alpha male thing is very in vogue, but honestly, fuck it. They call it being ‘reactive,’ and whatnot….and I guess it is…all I can say is that I’ve gotten a lot of success with the ‘I’ll say/do whatever I want/feel when I feel it’ approach.
The more I just let go and say/do whatever I want, the more people love/respond to me. It’s very strange. Give it a shot.
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Tilikum
buy a motorcycle
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No don’t do that.
If you lack the intuition and level of self awareness to get pussy in 2014; you probably have no business on a bike.
There are simpler, less expensive ways to get yourself killed.
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> “My fatal flaw is that I am short (5’5)”
At the risk of playing armchair-psychiatrist Monday-morning-quarterback, your problem is that you have A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER about being short.
STOP CARING!!!!!
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You gotta place the order if you wanna eat.
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I guess I never thought of myself as Mussolini but its not a bad idea – thought he did get hung so we shall see…lol..
I have to say its been a bad road this dating thing. Very discouraging and I just do not buy alot of the postings here. I see hot women hit on alot in clubs and bars. Where is all this coming from that they do not get hit on? I have never seen situations, even dinner parties or say church events where a single hot woman was not hit on in some way. Never. And in addition I see hot women approach good looking guys alot. Just saw it today in the gym.
Sure hot woman can be cordial and friendly. But is it in a sexual way? I have not seen it for myself but again for better looking friends yes I have.
Why would a hot woman date a guy who does not offer her the best she can get? I understand it could be relative (they live in a small town) but in a big urban area, they have the pick of the litter. So they go after jerks that excite them (attractive jerks), money, social status. Its there form of currency.
Sorry I just dont buy this article and really question the data involved.
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The Laffer Curve of dating.
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Win. End of blog.
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Very astute.
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Mainly a US/Western phenomenon where boys are semi-resented by their WorkyMomz and are constantly taught to self-loathe and feel unworthy..
Take Mediterranean and Latin cultures where the boy is Mother’s Little Prince and guess what, the men there feel no shame or hesitancy about aiming for the best.
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You can actually generalize this to:
In countries where men have good self-esteem, women make damn sure they are at least an 8, because they know being a 6-7 isn’t good enough to get them any attention.
Here, they figure being a 4 is good enough.
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in countries where woman don’t get life handed to them free they have to compete
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And that is why Latin women win the Miss Universe contests so often. Just imagine if the Germanics had remained Catholic…
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Even the grandmothers…
http://www.slideshare.net/Art37/grandmas-in-brazil
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Fuck, I gotta learn me some Portuguese to get at them porkchops.
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Bad news about Latinas, boys.
It is true that there are amazingly large numbers of them who are pretty hot in their teens and 20’s, but they pay a heavy price.
Right around 30-35, something terrible happens to them and they go from looking like a swimsuit model to looking like Frankenstein’s monster’s grandmother almost overnight.
And it ain’t just the 5 kids or the posole.
Very rare is the Latina who is still hot after 35, but if there are any, you can see them on Univision and Telemundo.
There’s a Colombian who frequents my favorite bar who is in her 40’s and has a body most teenagers could be proud of. She’s a little bit leathery close up – too many decades spent in sunny climes – and apparently quite controlling, I’m still trying to decide if I should go there or not.
I do agree that Miss Universe contests could just be between Latin America and Scandinavia, send the rest home, wouldn’t miss too much.
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I know we have spoken about it before,corvinus. Anyhow, austrians, some germans,belgians and some dutch are catholic.Austrian culture is very catholic indeed. And let’s not forget France, the largest of them all.
This is probably not because of a religion, the reason behind it is purely economic. Hotter women get richer husbands. Also not in every predominantly protestant country men are loathed by their Worky (porky) mumz
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Roman Catholicism is a scourge. Protestantism is the true way.
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you cannot judge all Latinas because of one. the term is quite misleading since it embraces a mix of many colours and cultures. even in the same country, you can find women who are totally different from each other, and come from different places.
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I think my point is that Catholics, who have more of an artistic temperament than Protestants do, are more likely to reproduce with knockouts than Protestants are. The women from Catholic cultures are simply sexier. I mean, mentally picture a Swedish model versus a blonde French or Italian model of approximately equal hotness. The sexiness of the latter will be more intoxicating somehow.
you cannot judge all Latinas because of one. the term is quite misleading since it embraces a mix of many colours and cultures.
Yeah, we hear that all the time, but people forget that the vast majority are mestizos — a roughly 50-50 mix of American Indian and European.
I know we have spoken about it before,corvinus. Anyhow, austrians, some germans,belgians and some dutch are catholic.Austrian culture is very catholic indeed. And let’s not forget France, the largest of them all.
France is Latin, not Germanic. But I understand.
Belgium is a strange case because the Flemish/Dutch are still heavily Catholic but the Walloons/French are more irreligious leftoids. Switzerland is also backwards to a lesser extent; the French-Swiss are mostly Protestant but the German-Swiss are religiously mixed. And Austrians are more Catholic than their non-Germanic neighbors. But these seem to be weird exceptions to the overall Germanic = Protestant rule.
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Roman Catholicism is a scourge. Protestantism is the true way.
To the contrary: Protestantism was the first liberal/leftoid revolution, and its logical conclusions include Mormonism, JWs, and yes, rampant leftoidery and Cultural Marxism.
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Hitting on tens should be the name of heartistes cover band. Fun, exciting, and the contrast shocks you!
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“Mainly a US/Western phenomenon where boys are semi-resented by their WorkyMomz and are constantly taught to self-loathe and feel unworthy..
Take Mediterranean and Latin cultures where the boy is Mother’s Little Prince and guess what, the men there feel no shame or hesitancy about aiming for the best.”
I see this all the time in “multicultural” Australia = Comment of the YEAR
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I might agree my second hottest chick when young no college dude took her away from me and I didn’t even have a car and was in high school he he he
saw her at party sat next to her on floor started making out with her game over
I don’t even think we actually talked much
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“semi-resented by their WorkyMomz” –
– All kids are resented by their Momz in the west — Girls float on cloud nine, treated like royalty because of contraceptives and high SMV’s from Ages 16 to 32.
– For all their formative years they turn heads and get looked after like rockstars on the carosel.
– Until the second their pregnancy shows….Hence abortion.
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OMG! That graph! Where’s your peer reviewed studies you used to support your data points!? Bad science! SQUAWK!!
Sorry, just thought I’d get in B4.
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Great post. I have been noticing, since my first sexual experiences, that most of shit testing comes from average girls, who are increasingly getting placed below my own SMV. One of them confessed, later on, that she thought I was “too much for her” and so she felt the urge to make me feel jealous.
As I am getting tired of wasting so much effort and attention to pick up these girls, could be great to look only for the hottest ones and check out if the Castillan is right.
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I do not know, there is a lot of contradictory information regarding this issue. Some say it is an urban myth that hot women aren’t hit a lot. My experience is that they do; they have more options and are more skilled handling men. But just for kicks I will approach more of them in the future.
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I think the key dissonance you’re seeing is because of blacks. Black males will hit on anything, not from lack of fear, but because of stupidity.
In NYC, I’ve stumbled upon a number of outdoor modelling shoots and advertising campaigns—photographers and ad agencies like getting models outside on non-winter days, in front of famous and not so famous landmarks. NYC’s old architecture—you know, the ones built by straight white gentiles from the pre-1950s—look pretty good overlooking a pretty young thing.
Naturally, crowds will gather to watch a professional modelling shoot (part of the point, really, especially for ad agencies). Mixed crowds, of course, but one thing always happens—at least one black guy will try to walk past the photographer right in the middle of a shoot and openly hit on the model; this is after an hour working up their courage by whistling, hollering and acting like characters from a talkie version of Birth of a Nation.
He’ll walk up right in a shot–the more ghetto-dressed, the more hilarious—and think he can just spit some retard game at the 18 year old anorexic (and now scared) white girl and get away from it. The photographer’s assistants get in there, and maybe get a guard over. It’s funny–he gets pushed out, starts yelling, almost chimps out, and either walks away mad or waits hours to try again.
At clubs, too, where a few bottle-popping girls are there, clearly hired to sell drinks and make the club glamorous, looking bored or with cash on the brain, and the black guys all think they got a chance, when, really, the girls are just hired help who want the money. The darkies will empty their wallets getting the girls to come over, but walk away alone without even a number.
In both situations, importantly, the black male game is very very weak. It isn’t flirty, intelligent, or calibrated; it’s handsy, creepy, pathetic, and sad. The Obama voters think that just grabbing a girl and dominating the conversation will get them laid, or that throwing money down and pretending to be a producer/rapper/club promoter (the only fake jobs these jungle bunnies ever use to attempt getting laid) will work. I feel like saying, boy, these aren’t darky females; these are humans, and you dumb subhumans don’t know the difference. But they wouldn’t be smart enough to get that.
Non-black guys see three things when either situation happens: 1) darkies hitting on her, meaning they will get chimpy, aggressive, and hollering if you go in/have success when the girl is done; and 2) her getting really scared/annoyed at darkie trying–putting her well out of the mood to be flirted with; and 3) that she, because she might smile at first, may be into darkies, which is one of the biggest turn offs in the world–very few people are into bestiality-loving girls. Hence, two major venues where a 10 might think she would get hit on by men she doesn’t; only monkeys flinging poo.
During one outdoor shoot I stumbled by I swear the model was giving the photog the “do me now” eyes and then, when a darky shuffled in and did his awful shuck-and-jive, the photog got really angry because young model now was too upset to give him a hummer later.
I’ll bet that, during Jim Crow, 10’s were approached a lot more by humans who had some good game. And every human was happier.
Sigh. America.
Rape!
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Think Joe Dirt
Joe missed out on Brandy to begin with because he never made the moves on her. She was into him the whole time.
Instead, she went and shacked up with dirty douche Kidd Rock, because he went balls out and took what he wanted. He made the approach.
Joe Dirté only got the girl when he took her off the pedestal some and made the move.
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Joe Dirt is my generation’s Citizen Cane.
Where else can you see this epic scene:
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wow puts a hot chick in your league pretty quick when she in granny panties and a pad in
and my tshirt
hahahahaahahah
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should sell em for college campuses would be no rapes
marketed as the anti rape panty
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its fucking hilarious she always wears a thong
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More Shattering of the Pedestal.
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“Poll: Number of Past Partners You’ve Told Your Spouse vs Actual #”
LINK: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/377269.page
I love the comments like, “OMG!! Teehee, if you count BJs, ummmm, the number is a little higher” the dismissive, “I had my fun, what can I say!”, and the infamous ego-preserver “I didn’t count BJs”.
Moral of the story: Most women are just not worth your time, They have been plowed by more men (and women) than you’ve ever been with and they can and will lie to you about how this number, while bashfully trying to get you to chase her and setting herself up as the prize.
You are superior to her by every quantifiable metric known to Mankind. There is no reason to ever (and I mean EVER) feel inferior to a woman or intimidated to approach anyone. Most modern, Westernized women are simply not worthy of your respect.
Qualification is an ongoing process, and she must prove herself to you repeatedly as being worthy of your time. You should never be afraid to eject a woman from your orbit if you ever sense disrespect, lying or even a “funny feeling” about her. 4 Billion women on the planet. NEXT. Life’s too short. Understand women, their prerogatives and machinations, but realize there is no more “mystique”. Keep your life simple, pleasurable, profitable and free of drama.
OK, stream-of-consciousness poorly-written rant over.
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exactly. fuck the left. and their broads.
next rape!
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Talk about wall of
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I’ve been a long time lurker of Chateau Heartiste, however this is the first time that I’ve felt obliged to comment on something.
The link you posted is disturbing, not so much what the women have done and their past history which is expected of feral whores but the fact that there were men on the site who were actually proud of it and that they had claimed these women after they’d “had their fun”.
Thinking about a man who is proud that his wife has slept with over 200 other men and who willingly married an ex hooker, even brags about it, makes me feel physically unwell.
I’m not sure if the posts are serious or actual satire. What a sick place D.C must be. . .
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To be honest, though, this is just disturbing. Particularly that the men go along with it. . .
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LOL “NEXT!” LIke the guy who does the bit on Weekend Update on SNL.
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Agree with it all, except with the “worthness” judgements, which are nothing but… drama.
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What spots have an abundance of 10s-Vegas? Miami? LA?
That doesnt seem like too easy of a feat to acheive in the US aka where the fuck are the 10s? All I see is 6s and 7s in most places…
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Tens have likely been decreasing in number since the advent of the birth control pill. The world is quite literally becoming uglier. Modern “advances” have changed the rules. The ability to circumvent God also trumps Darwin. We are no longer a culture where the fit survive; we have become a culture where the unfit thrive.
I imagine most cities are converting to structures of neo-feudalism. The elite stay off the street.
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Read The Rising Tide Of Color by Stoddard. Written in 1920 or so it foretells the future eerily
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Read The Rising Tide Of Color by Stoddard. Written in 1920 or so it foretells the future eerily
I’ll read the book.
In the meantime, note that things have actually been improving for our situation.
In the 1970s white European people were below replacement and everybody else was far above. Now, only Sub-Saharan Africans are still far above replacement, and it is clear that it’s only a matter of time before they adopt low birth rates as their diaspora in the Americas, and even in South Africa, already have.
Putting it another way: in 1970, white Europeans had birth rates (TFRs) only about a third of the world average. Now they’re about two-thirds.
What’s been happening is that white European birth rates, while they are below replacement, haven’t been dropping — if anything, they’re ticking up as liberal whites die out and make room for more conservative whites — but everybody else has.
Also note that migration depends on the birth rates of the sending country 20-30 years before relative to the receiving country. While white countries have been inundated with migrants in the past couple of decades, this lag would suggest that in coming decades, the only major source of migrants will be sub-Saharan Africa.
Nonwhites are overwhelmingly Marxist, and since Marxism and high birth rates are an unstable combination, we may actually expect nonwhites to sink to liberal white birth rates in the future.
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Corvinus, lay off the geo-political sauce. Besides, all you are doing is spouting off Vox Day bullshit. Be original for once.
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I read the book. Overall, it’s very good, but it seems to place far too much emphasis on an expected peril from East Asians, and not nearly enough on black Africans. Although granted, back in 1920, East Asian countries all still had very high birth rates; Japan didn’t drop to European levels until just after World War II, and China and Korea until the 1980s or so.
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Stoddard was promoted by Tom Buchanan in the novel The Great Gatsby.
His ideas were moronic then. They’re moronic now.
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Corvinus, lay off the geo-political sauce. Besides, all you are doing is spouting off Vox Day bullshit. Be original for once.
If you’re going to say I’m wrong, at least point out where you think I am rather than just mouthing off. Thank you.
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Montreal. Serious.
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So many trashy girls with terrible tattoos all over Montreal. I was there last week and it was much worse than even Brooklyn.
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#1 Issue, unless you don’t need to reach CH, it simply does not matter where 9s and 10s are because why? You game is utter shite.
-Theoretically-, and I mean that as truly as I can say such a thing, the baddest nigga here is YaReally. He is, by his own admission, a not very ripped but highly above average intellect white boy residing in / near LA. So he encounters model hot pussy, the likes of which Elliot Rodger, AKA, Supreme Gentleman literally killed and died for. I don’t exactly -doubt- the dude, because he has the IQ to jedi mind trick spoiled low IQ but insanely rich blond white bitches into bed. If I was on the left coast, I’d do that and more.
Once you’ve graduated from DC ‘dating’, the world is your fucking oyster… ask RooshV, Heartise, moi, et. al.
#2 Issue— Vegas. Yes 9s and 10s ALL DAY LONG. And you will pay and pay, and pay some more. How many black chips u got? Did you WIN BIG at the table. Don’t confuse 10 dollar handjob whores with 20 year old Russian call girls, they both want to get paid in different amounts, at the end of the day.
#3 Issue Miami— PRO TIP— Bring an expensive camera. LA women are probably the hottest in the states but are immune to bullshit since even the waitress at TGI Fridays is an 8 or 9 if she is near Hollywood. Miami is a different issue, especially if you are a race mixing dude. Cubans and Puerto Ricans are ‘more or less’ white (Europeans) right? If so, press 1, and you’ll do well in Miami if you have a camera. If you do REALLY well you will only get the descendants of European Spaniards, very white skinned but dark haired women who are seeking the camera lens to advance past the fact that the whitest Spaniards either raped or consentually shot sperm into some islander bitch in the 1700s. Be on the lookout…
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corvinus
I read the book. Overall, it’s very good, but it seems to place far too much emphasis on an expected peril from East Asians, and not nearly enough on black Africans.
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how can 80 IQ people be a threat to white people?
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Hey, Genius, think of locusts descending on a field of grain.
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Hey simp, think of a farmer too lazy, self absorbed and gameless to harvest his own crops.
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monkeys are always a threat in large packs.
rape!
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we’re Apes, not monkeys; get it right retard.
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lmao. watch out, thwack masta p is quoting the almighty rap lyrics for arguments! He’ll next throw a sunbeam at me, HP loss 70+!
Moron rape!
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Ape Rape!!!
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But doesn’t this graph not count the fact that a chick’s facebook and instagram usually are filled with Oribiters to give her pics 100 plus “likes” and supplicating comments ??….
this usually makes the high 8s, 9s, and 10s have “bitch face” since their used to all the attention, and assume all men will serve her Throne Of Oribiters…..
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I approach HB8+ often enough and must admit that they are usually very friendly. But it often leads to nowhere, they decline giving their numbers a lot.
My theory is that they require a longer game. You can’t get a number and strong interest of a HB9 after a 15 mins day game. You need to invest more.
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“But it often leads to nowhere, they decline giving their numbers a lot.”
yes. because they are dialed in to what gets them wet. vast majority of guys who approach won’t push her buttons. this is good because you don’t get stuck in the FZ. next.
“You can’t get a number and strong interest of a HB9 after a 15 mins day game.”
you absolutely can. if it’s a good match you can do it in 5 min. she operates on instinct and all she wants to do is give out her number to the stud that gives her butterflies. game + luck.
“You need to invest more.”
no. you need to make the instant impression that you’re the guy who will invest less and take more. she wants to score over her head not have her ass kissed. she wants to be the lucky one.
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Hb8+ are alpha girl ltr who dated the quarterback or Whatever. Not lonely desperate high t cock hungry manjws willing to give a number to some guy after 10 minutes. They get all the vlidation all day Long. They dont need to slut it up for a taste of alpha. Alpha is willing to marry them already.
these girls rarely even exist. Especially in Manjaw land.
now when a girl like that becomes career minded..thats when trouble hits.
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[…] A particular paradox of the sexual market is one that works in the favor of men. More precisely, men with balls. It’s what I call the “Prime Pussy Paradox”. […]
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Meanwhile,in the crazy world out there-26 yeas old HB7 is getting married to Charlie Manson:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2688005/EXCLUSIVE-Daddy-Im-getting-married-Charlie-Charlie-Manson-Father-relives-moment-daughter-revealed-intended-marry-infamous-killer-incredibly-come-accept-it.html
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today is the take to take life in your grip and game the shit out of it
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take = day
my chick comes in gonna where a dress asks me which one says now you know I have to wear the granny panties
my baby got the granny panties
my baby got the granny panties
my new song I sing her
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can hot chicks put up wih more crazy man me and her been through some shit
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This works in the business and job world too.
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Being confident as fuck works. I remember a night several years ago where I pulled something off that even amazed me at the time.
It was the end of the night, I had approached several girls, but it none of the interactions were going anywhere sexually. Despite it being 2 am, I spotted a 9.5 (looked like a hotter version of Cameron Diaz in the Mask, bigger breasts too). She was with her 8 Asian friend. This was going to be a Hail Mary play (all or nothing bc the bars were all closing). I went and started talking to the hottie but really close to her face like I was her boyfriend. We only talked for 2 minutes before her Asian friend interrupted us and came to drag her into a cab. So what did I do?
I grabbed my friend and told him, “Follow me.” Then I got into the cab and gave a command to the hottie, “Scoot over” She looked me in the eye for a second, then moved. I got in and when my friend came I told her, “Stand up.” Then scooted in and pulled her ass down to sit on my lap. As she did,she started giggling. This was a little too much for the Asian to handle and she kept asking the blonde who were were, but luckily my friend went into some report and was good with easing some of the tension or stalker/killer/psycho vibe.
The blonde hottie was loving it. They were taking the cab to a parking garage where they were meeting this beta dude who was going to drive them home. As we were driving we told them that their house was on our way home and we could drop them off. The blonde was cool with it but the Asian insisted on the garage. She told the driver to go to the garage. That’s when her and the blonde started arguing back and forth and commanding the taxi driver. The blonde wanted us to drop them off. Then this next thing blew my mind and it still amazes me today…
The blonde and the Asian started arguing for a full 5 minutes back and forth (not even joking, 5 minutes literally) – Asian wanted the Beta, blonde wanted to us to take them. Blonde won and we ended just taking the cab to their house (they flaked on their guy friend). They paid the cab driver and he left. I was kinda confused but told the blonde, “He left? Well now you have to give us a ride.” She stopped smiling looked me dead in the eye and said, “No I don’t.” I grabbed her, pulled her i,n and looked her in the eye and said, “I’m serious.” And she laughed all girly and said, “Ok, I will.” After this all my bold juice kinda ran out. And as I stared in her eyes, even though I passed her little shit test, I realized how hot she was and after that I started losing my frame. It was weird and this still happens from time to time…sometimes there is that rare girl that is soooo hot, I get lost in her eyes…I know that sounds gay, but it’s true.
Once we got in the house my friend asked for some water and he broke the wingman rules and started going for the blonde. I thought that was shitty of him, but I figured it wasn’t going down unless the Asian was on board too so I went to her room with her. The chicks were very cool and nice to us, but nothing happened. The Asian really was NOT down, although she tough we were cool guys, she was still not 100% comfortable and my friend didn’t game her so I guess she felt kinda left out. I could have had the blonde if I had kept up the boldness, but I just didn’t have it in my back then. It was late, I was tired, and energy ran out…but the biggest reason was that I got stunned by her looks. Still, every time I see some bold seducer in a movie I remember that night and can see it happening.
Neither me or my friend made a move on the blonde, but all that was required was to kiss her…she wanted that bold man and I was that guy for a while, but see, couldn’t hold that mentality and it fizzled out.
Anyways, I’ve had other bold times that worked and others where I got harshly rejected, it just depends on the girl. Still imagine you could fuck one 9.5 out of every 10 you approached boldly? Would you do it? Fuck yeah. It’s a no brainier.
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I would’ve had the Asian eating out the blonde as she squirmed in orgasmic ecstasy
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I wudna wasted all that time. Right up front I’d ask the blonde to fakk. Been there, done that, it works (she was a 9). Oh, yeah, I had the hardest time actually asking it, but she knew it was coming and no beta ever does that move. Alpha as h311.
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Good post. I think the exception is in bars where the hottest women get hit on the most by drunk, thirsty guys. Another reason to make day game your bread and butter. Most women never get approached during the day. Boldness alone will earn you points.
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Got 3 plates I’m spinning, two are 7s, one is a solid 8. I have to admit, all of them pretty much approached me, or at least placed themselves in a position in which it would be “acceptable” for me to flirt with them. This could be just coincidence or it could be a natural effect of me being generally fucking awesome and devastatingly handsome.
Anyway the 8 is by the fat the sweetest and most feminine of the bunch, the other two are testy but nothing I can’t handle. If I ever see a 9 I’ll try my hand at a brazen cold approach.
tl;dr: KILL JOOS AND GO OUT MOAR
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tl;dr == LOL’ed.
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*by fat, lol
I meant by far
typing this on my phone while wading in the middle of a freezing ass river, I’m hard like that
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Very true. One of the nicest women I ever had a thing for was a solid 9. If not higher. Very well liked by everyone and she had a smokin thin body with wide hips cute little Tits. Beautiful shiny hair, great smile, classy varied clothing day to day never crass or sluttily styled. For whatever reason I wasn’t overly nervous in her company when we met at community college, and she had a thing for me in hindsight. Always returned my texts and messages I was pre heartiste at the time and just 19 or 20 so i disnt go for it like i could have. But she was so fucking nice and pleasant, good manners, didn’t swear, always smiling. I think the caveat here is they have to have natural facial beauty, higher than average. When I qualified (non looks related) her by saying how I admired her work ethic with school she practically exploded with glee in a text.
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Are there any girls with low self esteem in these times of facebook attention whores? every dog face gets millions of arabs and indians commenting on her pictures…
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That’s pretty much what i said. Social Media has propped the pedestal with orbiters to give even 6s and 7s (butterfaces w/ nice bodies); 50 + likes/ comments on some dumb picture of her dog, status or a food pic..
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I wouldn’t worry too much about this phenomenon. Most girls are addicted to Facebook and like any addiction, there’s a tipping point and it eventually takes more and more to achieve the same feel-good hit.
So a girl who’s used to a minimum of 50 likes for a picture of her faggot little dog will need that some amount of likes to get the rush on the next post.
Facebook is to girls what internet porn is to men – very destructive and deleterious in the long-term.
Also – you’ll notice, nearly without exception, that girls who are in relationships with alpha males drastically cut down on their Facebook use. That’s one of the best alpha tests there currently is.
My only advice about Facebook is – don’t use it.
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Your daily feminist smackdown: sex differences in mental rotation, a skill generally associated with mathematics ability, are greater in nations with greater gender equality.
http://www.lscp.net/persons/ramus/fr/GDP1/papers/lippa10.pdf
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My reply to byronicmate reminds me of a story…. [shimmering fade]
Last fall and over the winter, I dated a HB9.9*–my friends would openly refer to her as “The Hotness”. She’s 5’10” and my opener with her, when we locked eyes, was to cock my head to one side, raise an eyebrow and say, “You’re quite tall….I *like* it.” (I dropped my voice into something like and aggressive ‘stage whisper’, which made her giggle.) Anyway, she was pretty self-aware about how hot she was, but also pretty level-headed. What she later told me was that, when she met the gaze of a man who was looking at her 99/100 would look away. I suppose she felt a bit like the sun. 😉 Anyway, she asked me why I didn’t and I said, “Because I piss confidence–which, let’s face it, you love about me**–and besides, you’re just a girl. What’s the worst you’re going to do to me….hurt my feelings?” *smirk*
When she left to go work the summer season in Europe, I cut her loose. Our dynamic would only work if we’re in the same city. But don’t feel too badly for your old Uncle Mistral; happily two other ladies (A greater HB8 an a solid 9) who had seen her with me and wondered what I had going on…pre-selection, in action.
And that, children, is why your old Uncle Mistral swings for the fences….
À bientôt,
Mistral
*She smoked, which I don’t like, and the eyebrows were a little on the bushy side. I would call them the “caterpillars” and tell her to get them waxed. She said she did, and I replied, “more.”
**Never miss an opportunity to reinforce.
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There are times when you may have to apologize to your woman. Say, you let her ditzy frienemy flirt a little too enthusiastically with you the night before and she was upset. There is a right way of saying “sorry” the next morning, and sometimes it’s the right thing to do.
Blue pill betas think that you’re supposed to abase yourself and beg for forgiveness. But we know that beta overload will just make her more angry, and abasing yourself is never the right thing to do. Apologize once; more than once, it’s groveling.
So what you do, is next morning when she comes downstairs and is amenable to making up, you have THIS SONG on your laptop, paused at the 2:13 mark. For better effect and to not wake the kids, you have headphones connected to your computer.
When she walks up to you, still looking a bit hurt about your villainy the previous night, tell her to stand near you and turn around so she can’t see the monitor. Put the headphones on her. Don’t have the music pre-set too loud, obviously. And when she’s ready, let the song play (from the pre-paused 2:13 point), and stop it at the 2:27 mark.
Headphones come off. You apologized. All is forgiven.
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Then tell her to make you a sammich….
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Don’t placate when you can decimate. And by that, I mean all three holes.
She’ll likely put up some initial resistance but remember; you’re the man and as such, you can easily overpower her feminine frame. If you’re hellbent on humping, she’ll always surrender the booty. Go beast mode on the bitch and fuck her to a shuddering orgasm, over and over again. Face-fucking, hair-pulling, ass-slapping and of course, choking her repeatedly so her eyes roll back to expose only the whites. Just remember to let up just before she goes totally limp. You don’t wanna actually kill her, now.
If you’re into anal (which you should be), then do a double fishhook and pump every last drop of cum into her gaping asshole. You should have your phone ready to record the moment when she releases the contraction of the anal sphincter and your seed spills out of her anus. Immediately pan up to get her facial reaction and flash a shit-eating grin as you save the video.
From now on, when she brings the shitstorm, you can whip out your phone and remind her that you won’t apologize when you can simply rectify her rectum. Secretly, she craves another depraved session to release her pent-up sexual frustration so she’ll provoke you to satiate her desires.
Just don’t attempt this if you’ve *really* fucked up. If so, then get the hell outta Dodge.
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Hey fa6, Van Jones called, he said the theory you should run with today is the illuminati-jews blew up the building and no airplanes actually hit the buildings. Piggy also said you’re late eating out his a$$hole this morning.
Liar rape!
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Your mother eats your ass.
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Your mom eats your ass. Bazinga!
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An 8+ is a pretty feminine girl. Club sluts with fake tans and hard bodies are pigs. A gorgeous supermodel with a nicotine addiction and attitude is a pig. An 18 yr brand new fashjon model is a lovely humble creature who was most likley awkward and gangly her whole life.
So many girls I see called 10s or 8s are clearly worthless and.not 8s. 6s and 7s with make up.
Who gives a shit what happens in bars and clubs? Thise whores are in bar/club mode and are Therefore pigs.
Christy Turlington is a 10. TO THIS FUCKING DAY.
and she quit smoking..
Cunty dreadful personalities show in their faces and in their early aging. They look hard and manly. A woman like that is never a 10.
6-8s are cunts. Bottom of the barrel and 9-10 assuming theyre feminine are less cunty.
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You the son of Zombie Shane?
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> “Cunty dreadful personalities show in their faces and in their early aging.”
Have you heard Miley Cyrus in conversation lately? [She had a special on NBC recently, and Glenn Beck played a few soundbites from it on his radio show.] Her speaking voice is like an octave lower than it ought to be. Either she has had vocal chord surgery to “improve” her singing career, or else all the partying she’s doing she’s gonna send her straight to the morgue.
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= IS gonna send her straight to the morgue
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Just pretend life is like basketball: you miss all the shots you do not take.
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I think the key words here are ‘conspicuously hit on’. The truth is 8/9/10s do get hit on a lot more, but its much more in the realm of the indirect Chris Rock ‘you want some dick’ approach.
I number closed a young model recently. A solid 9. When I got the number, I noted it only had two digits in it. ‘How much did you pay for it?’. ‘Oh nothing, the guy in the shop just gave it to me’. I think he was actually asking if she wanted some dick.
When will the beta orbiting stop?
Some of the comments here are accurate, but in general the hot 20-24 age group is easier to game than the hot 27-33. If the latter doesn’t have a HV husband or a HV serious bf then there is a problem. This is why they will blow you out. Try gaming the hot 8/9/10s when young. Much better opportunity.
Either way you have to go direct with an 8/9/10.
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@cad and bounder by two digits I assume it must mean something easy like 21212121.
As for the “When will the beta orbiting stop”.
This is something i’m now observing in the circles I travel and play in. Guys are constantly cock-blocking me when I’m approaching younger, hotter, tighter chicks to dance and game. yet they get no where beyond just the basics: dancing etc.
From the girls’ point of view they get: attention, constantly having something to do on that night besides sitting and waiting for someone to ask them, an audience. Guy gets: well nothing really.
When I’m gaming girls, if I ask them to dance more than 2 times i’m escalating, eye-fucking, moving this forward in some way to get IOI’s.
Giving some girl an easy to remember phone number, pumping air into her tires, whatever the idea is…I find confusing until I take a step back and read the note that girl wrote me the other night which I post about below.
But the problem is there are so many thirsty guys ready to be rinsed that girls feel they don’t need to put in any effort. To many guys are just way too ready to do favors for girls that it becomes de-facto cock blocking.
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Yep on the mobile number question.
Completely, agree with you on the state of play. I don’t blame the young guys so much, because they are entitled to make mistake or two. It’s when they stick to blue pill mentality (even when they have the dataset to know it doesn’t work) and then get bitter and fuck it up for everyone else, that I have an issue.
In a way, I dont blame the girls. They are not conditioned to be rational and work out that not all guys are pussies. They become conditioned to certain types of behaviours and no amount of alpha asshole game is going to work in many cases.
The only thing you can do is graft yourself into situations away from the beta boys. A hard and fast rule is to absolutely refuse to be in a place or scenario where the male/female ratio is unfavorable. I know you are an older guy , like me, so daygame really is the way to go.
Roosh’s dictum works. Never ever do a favour for a girl you are not fucking.
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@wala @cad and bounder
i think you guys are missing an important point on the beta orbiter front…guys in the friend zone are ‘asexual beings’ as far as girls go. the girls get resources from those guys but those guys are not getting sex…lol…and when the guys try for it, they get shot down…lol…
you should look at beta orbiters as a blessing, bc that’s what they are. the more orbiters a girl has, the more her provisioning is secured for the future and the more she is willing to play the alpha fux game plan with you…lol…
also, those betas shouldn’t be seen as strictly cockblockers (although they can operate that way, and therefore you should deal with them if you have to by befriending them…lol…same as girls…lol) those betas are also ‘social proof on the hoof’…lol…every time they try to cockblock is just another social proof of your alpha cred…lol…use it to your advantage…
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@cad
How old are you? I’m curious because if you are 45+ and still running day game with success, that is rare. I know of no successful day gamers over 42 or so. And going direct when you are over 40, especially with younger girls, is not easy.
WalaWala seems to be an on-line game and social circle guy. Daygame seems to have a shelf life; it expires around 43 or so. I doubt Krauser will be able to do what he’s doing in 4 or 5 years.
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out of interest, how many day gamers do you know pushing it at that age?
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@ S.R I’m over 42, although to be fair, I look noticeable younger than my age (they usually guess 33-34 on appearance), I look after myself physically, and I’m better looking than most. However, you are right, if you look 40+ then it’s much harder with younger girls.
If you mean the formulated daygame model, then again, you are probably right. It’s hard to sustain the energy and motivation to sarge around approaching large numbers of girls. I can still do it though, trust me. Actually, I have to do it, because I live a sigma male lifestyle, in foreign cities, alone. To be honest, I’d rather just use daygame to find a quality K-type girl. Believe it or not, it’s harder to find the 26-33 quality K-type girl than it is to bang a 23-26, hotter, r-type girl.
nb the PUA community did not invent the idea of hitting on girls! Thanks to the ravages of feminism and the ‘don’t hit on me’ culture, a lot of young guys think that hitting on girls in the daytime is a new thing. Actually, I’ve seen guys in their 50s-60s regularly going out and hitting on girls, hence my moniker ‘cad and bounder’, in homage to an earlier lineage of pickup.
My gut feel is that Krauser et al will be able to daygame in 4/5 years, they will just adapt their game to circumstances. All the while, they will have to accept diminishing returns (due to age), but this will be offset by the fact that their libido is dropping, so it wont matter as much anyway.
@having a bad day
completely agree with your drift on the beta orbiters, they are no real threat. However, (I think) walawala and I, are talking about logistical issues and the way that the behaviour of beta orbiters encourages girls to amplify the shit testing to levels that become tiresome. Especially, when you don’t fancy the girl that much anyway!
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@cad and bounder
look at it from the girls’ pov…if she has lots of beta orbiters, then she has an extensive rolodex…lol…and she has to go through that rolodex to check your alpha cred…that’s gonna take some time to run through all those tests…lol…think of it as a training opportunity…where else would you get to practice seeing/predicting/responding to soooo many shit tests in a condensed period of time…lol…but i hear you on the cost/reward ratio…lol…
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in front of er kicked back in my foldout chair my girl sittin on cooler
a nice looking blond nurse walked up from parking lot with the low five out for about 10 steps and the big smile I slapped it
she said that’s the way to do it
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freaky day got stuck out in nowhere land with no taxis bout hour from home
had a cop guarding my cooler at macd’s
while I took my girl inside
then one of the three cops get us an ambulance that drives us the hour to the hospital close to house
another cop offers to drive my shit on sidewalk back to my town too
some good guys really helped us out of a shitty situation
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so I didn’t mind so much when I carried my girl out and put her on the gourney and she said to put her legs up to her chest to help stop the pain and they took a peek at the goods and she had no undies and a dress he he he
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anyone elsee ever had a female family member try to make their girl have a miscarriage
my girl said she was jealous of us
and asked told her to get off her mans nuts
she said she has seen lots of chicks jealous of her in clubs and wherever else we go and wanting to be her
said family member was wanting to be her
sometimes ya might just be able to be just a bit too alpha
nightmare day
family member def don’t want me with her for sure
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thing is on baby all rights getting signed over to me anyway the family member ain’t got to worry
that is how I roll
worried about me paying child support I ain’t
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> “anyone elsee ever had a female family member try to make their girl have a miscarriage”
Your mom? Your sister? Your Grandma? SRSLY, like WTF, man? That’s some evil shit right there.
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Another leftoid decides to just be honest and admit yearning for white male genocide. Employer? Middlesex District Attorney’s Office.
http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/1005512
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Related,
Movie companies have been told they must meet new targets for ethnic minority, gay and female characters on screen to be eligible for future funding from the British Film Institute.
The BFI, Britain’s largest public film fund, announced a “Three Ticks” scheme to ensure diversity in films and behind the scenes as it set out new rules for funding.
[…] It will ask filmmakers to ensure that at least 30 per cent of supporting and non-speaking characters are also “diverse”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/10952584/British-Film-Institute-tells-filmmakers-to-tick-new-diversity-targets-or-miss-funding.html
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If I were in the film business I’d be tempted to reply that from now on all my films would be about hot exotic lesbian sleepover parties, but that would just hasten the advent of quotas for fatties, fugs, furries, fembots (but then, I repeat myself), and freaks of other persuasions.
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Heh, heh… I can still remember when spokespersons for (X – put your favorite “other” group here) used to deride anyone who claimed X had “an agenda” as a pitiful paranoid.
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If we’re all the same, how can anything be too white? Diversity just means fewer white people.
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I’m good with quotas, let’s just make them realistic.
For example, the LGBT population is BARELY more than 5% of the overall population, combined. 5% of the total characters in a average TV episode or movie would be… nobody.
They don’t want a realistic reflection of society. They want to punish social conservatives.
On another note, I wonder sometimes why Europe’s not afraid of its own latent nationalistic tendencies. At least in America, we’ve got a tradition of accepting those from other cultures (as long as they integrate). In Europe, they’ve got a long tradition of violent conflict. What do the politicians think is going to happen? Sooner or later, the European whites are going to snap. And it’s going to be very ugly for everyone involved.
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And it’s going to be very ugly for everyone involved
It will be beautiful.
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Movie companies have been told they must meet new targets for ethnic minority
All that’s gonna do is make Whites quit watching mainstream movies. As per recent CH tweet, Whites respond to rising dieversity (sic) by ceding certain public spaces (real estate or virtual) and quietly claiming other areas. Examples: public schools is ceded to NAMs so private/homeschool is where Whites go. Mainstream pop, same thing; young Whites go vintage or Indie. Walmart out, local organic in. Suburban parks that attract dark skinned families with thumping music are left for defacto White parks. Once Blacks embrace any product brand, it becomes déclassé among Whites.
Same with mainstream movies. They are now targeted to the global average IQ. Whites go elsewhere.
It is an intellectual error to construct a diversity model wherein Whites disperse evenly among non-Whites. What observably happens is that like seeks like, which is why despite the government’s sixty-year efforts, defacto segregation is as strong, if not stronger, than ever.
The practical lesson for the film industry is that driving out Whites is bad for business.
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Re my own comment “it will be beautiful,” I must once again post
THIS INSPIRATIONAL SONG AND VIDEO
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Yes, it will be beautiful when the white people start murdering each other.
They’re animals anyway; let them lose their souls.
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Yes, it will be beautiful when the white people start murdering each other.
Start?
Be glad we seem to have a knack for internecine warfare, often for the benefit of a de facto future enemy we’re purportedly trying to liberate at the time.
Otherwise you dark dregs would have long gone extinct… most likely at your own hands.
They’re animals anyway; let them lose their souls.
Heh, heh… Corntrollio holds the mirror backwards (yet) again.
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we seem to have a knack for internecine warfare
A little perspective, please. Every racial/ethnic group primarily fights their own. Most blacks are in prison for killing other blacks. ISIS beheads other Muslims. Injuns. Rwanda. Nanking. I can continue but I won’t.
Srebrenica is what happens when people you don’t like get forced on you. Eventually the folks who get anarcho-tyrannied get pissed off.
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Srebrenica is what happens when people you don’t like get forced on you. Eventually the folks who get anarcho-tyrannied get pissed off.
I agree.
The way the leftist establishment is treating white people in western nation, it is pretty much a certainty that eventually someone somewhere will be really fed up and will do something radical, and then other white people who are just as fed up will join in.
I don’t wish for violence or a sort of civil war to break out ( anyway here in Canada I am safe far away from it ) , but the way whites are being treated – like second class citizens – and are being pushed against the wall, they are bound to eventually push back.
There are many many ways in which whites are being treated like second rate citizens – and have to pay the bill – but here is something I read this morning,
” […] The latest insult to Americans will infuriate millions: while the TSA strictly enforces ID and security requirements on American citizens, illegal aliens are now being allowed to board and fly on commercial aircraft without having to show any ID at all, announced the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC). (1)
[…] As the Washington Times reports, Obama now seeks to provide free health care, free schooling and free legal representation to the illegals, even while denying such benefits to Americans. (2)
[…] It is now beyond any doubt that the Obama administration is deliberately engineering a mass invasion of America that will ensure American citizens and taxpayers are economically crushed while illegal aliens flood their cities and streets.
[…] The open borders policy is, for all practical purposes, an act of war against America, and those who encourage open borders are by definition traitors who betray this nation.
“The federal government; under the command of Barack Hussein Obama; is actively executing a full and complete invasion of the United States of America,” writes Eric Odom of Liberty News. (6)
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045974_illegal_aliens_security_amnesty_TSA.html#ixzz37PBX0N9n
…”
How long can this injustice go on?? ( on top of all the other anti-white injustices?)
Obama is asking for 3.8 Billions dollars to help those illegals and who will foot the bill? regular Americans ( and who is most likely to have a good job and pay taxes? white Americans )…
When a demographic is not only treated like shit but is forced to pay to be treated like shit, and another demographic gets preferential treatment for free, eventually someone somewhere will snap and start shooting.
It is unfortunate but that is where this is going. Towards a violent confrontation.
I am surprised nothing radical has happened yet.
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“They don’t want a realistic reflection of society. They want to punish social conservatives.”
That, and soften up the beaches.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147824/adults-estimate-americans-gay-lesbian.aspx
http://www.nccivitas.org/2014/civitas-poll-north-carolina-voters-vastly-overestimate-nc-ethnic-diversity/
http://www.gallup.com/poll/4435/public-overestimates-us-black-hispanic-populations.aspx
etc.
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Only 3.5 % of the population is gay but the unrelenting propaganda and brainwashing has convinced the average person it is more than 7 times that ( or 25 % )
In other words, from the point of view of the leftist establishment everything is going according to plan.
Having taken control of entertainment and education has produced impressive results.
The left is diabolical.
Not to mention how succesful they are at making Americans hate their own nation and making white liberals hate their own race, culture, history and civlization.
The left is truly diabolical.
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Judging by the MSM, one would surely think that negroes were at least 40% of the population…
And as far as YKW being only 2%, meh… I know that many myself.
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OT:
https://mobile.twitter.com/FeministBooty
Apparently, flaunting your nearly-naked ass on Twitter is fighting the patriarchy now, or something.
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Just another plausibly deniable excuse to attention whore.
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One of the main complaints of feminists has always been that the patriarchy treats women like sexual objects.
Now these women make themselves sexual objects to protest against being sexual objects…
And we are supposed to stop saying women are irrational???
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Exactly.
Years ago they used to rail against porn, now they embrace it. I read a story a while back about some asian porn skag and she described herself as “a sex positive feminist”. A google search brought up a red tube video of her getting gang banged by 6 nogs. Her parents must be proud.
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This is why I’m a tit man.
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I like tits, but Im really more of a clavicle man
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But what REALLY turns you on is that extra ankle bone.
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9s and 10s need to actually do Game themselves if they want attention from the top men. They can’t be any more selective than 8s.
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Mini-FR for YaReally and the rest of the guys
Went to a swingers club tonight. Longer post coming up when I have time about the swinging scene generally.
Anyway. It was a dead night. Couple of women, couple of guys and a couple who only wanted to be watched. The women were the type who’ll bang anyone. As in literally they are waiting in bed and you go in and climb on the bed and fuck them (most women aren’t like this even in a swingers club). That’s not my scene – I’d rather masturbate to be honest, so I checked it out and one of them (Asian HB6.5 – average features, nice body, mid-30s) asked me to join her and I said “maybe later”. No big deal in that.
But then I went downstairs and started chatting to the organizer (woman) – just vibing and practicing building rapport – it was going really well. Then the women came down from the bedrooms and the Asian HB6 came and sat with me (I was sitting alone after the organizer had to go). She was like an AFC interested in me..it’s a strange experience. She kept talking and initiating conversation. Went for a cigarette and came back to me. Etc
Looked really disappointed when I said I was leaving in a few mins. I said I was tired and she suggested we go chill in the jacuzzi cos it will help me relax. So I looked reluctant and let her “convince” me. Stripped off and got in the jacuzzi and she was just all over me trying to turn me on. I just wasn’t particularly interested y’know? I mean there’s a physical reaction when you’re naked in a hot tub with a woman groping you..but I just wasn’t particularly interested.
I told her straight off I didn’t like “playing” in hot tubs (I love it actually – it’s just an excuse) and she looked a bit disappointed and said “okay”. Then 10 mins later I was like “I need to go” and she asked again – twice – if I’d come upstairs for a quick fuck and I said no, and we parted on good terms.
It was a really interesting experience. Yeah, yeah, I know. Swinger who’ll fuck anything that moves. Not like she’s got particularly high standards. But more the feeling I had – the feeling of *knowing* sex was available there on tap and saying “Naah..I don’t feel like it – I’m not turned on enough/she’s not hot enough to bother, although I could do it physically”. I was having a perfectly polite chat (practicing rapport building) and I was happy enough doing that but I didn’t want to go any further and I was thinking “oh god, I hope she doesn’t ask me to fuck again – I don’t really want the hassle of rejecting her again”.
I think this is what women must feel like all the time. And no wonder I was driving the woman crazy. Sure – she’ll fuck anyone but she literally followed me in the club and then tried her best to seduce me in the hot tub – of course, there weren’t loads of guys for her to fuck tonight but she still didn’t have to do that. But even she’s not used to guys turning her down when offered a no-strings fuck..really sets the hamster going.
Now if I can only apply this the next time I meet a 9 in a club..:)
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That was one of the most pitiful and disgusting things I’ve ever read here.
Can’t believe that you smoke… feh.
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I’m nowhere near mastery, but I’ll still write something concerning this.
It happened to me too, several times. Although I’m not a swinger 😀
I currently have 2 7s chasing me, but man I don’t feel like it. It’s always like that, the 7 will give massive IOIs and start to game themself and you’ll have to turn them down.
It doesn’t get their hamster going though, it makes them very sad and that’s what I don’t like about it.
For an 8+ it’s different you actually have to work and they display the cues very subtly (maybe to preserve their ego?). They’re just not that desperate.
Anyway, I’m not Brad Pitt in terms of looks so that’s not surprising…
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An Asian 6 1/2 is the dream I of many a beta here
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As far as reading your mini-FR goes–“I just wasn’t particularly interested.” heh
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Heh. Just received a text from the organizer of the swingers club mentioned above (not the woman I turned down). This is the one I was chatting to and flirting with when the Asian approached me. In her 40s, but blonde, great body and tits. Probably HB7.5 when younger but definitely fuckable even now.
Anyway (4 days later) she’s texted me (she has my number because I had to call her to get into the club last week) for no reason saying “Hey sweetie..how are you? I had a lot of naughty fun after you left the club..your Whatsapp picture does not do you justice..”.
Babelfish Translation: Don’t leave the club without fucking me next time..
I know I keep reading on CH and elsewhere that women will make it easy for you when they’re really interested..but I’m still internalizing it as I get more and more reference experiences.
(I’m going to reply with something along the lines of how I didn’t even get her tits out this time [I kept accusing her of distracting me with them during our conversation])
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In the Satires, Juvenal did wax eloquent on the subjects of gladiatrix exploits, patrician women, women educated beyond their abilities, Game, women who bring lawsuits against their husbands, and admonitions along the lines of crescit sub pondere virtus.
http://tomorrowinvinland.blogspot.com.au/
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I locked down the mother of my children when she was 19 years old. Having been educated largely in England; and being gifted by God almighty, she was at that time a first year Medical Student in a no-excuses front-line American Medical School. And she was from a morally serious, and pious family. And she was bursting with the kind of hypergamous lustings normally found in un-needy, rich-blonde, un-worried bitches in-heat. For me…
Deal.
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I hope she became an orthopedic surgeon… your shoulder is sure to require treatment, patting yourself on the back like that.
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Ha. Nice one, Greg.
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he needs to pat himself on the back because no one else is going to.
he might have locked her down when she was 19 but he couldn’t keep her locked down. he referred to her as the mother of his children. not his wife or current girl so they obviously aren’t together anymore.
i’d say locking her down at such a young age, the high-brow breeding, the rich girl entitlement and the education at a “front-line” medical school contributed to the failure of the relationship.
not sure why anyone would see a girl like that and think “Deal”. I’d be thinking…NEXT!
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WELL AT LEAST SHE PUSHED SOME BUNS OUT OF HER OVEN FOR HIM!
What have Kate or Amy or FeministX or any of them done lately? [… sound of crickets chirping…]
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I didn’t expect my comment to be the focus of an entire article, so I guess I should be flattered.
As for some of the comments, I find them really strange. I just don’t get the fear of women. Who cares if a 10 “obliterates” you publicly. That is just a test you need to pass.
Case in point. I attended West Point during my freshman (plebe) year. Every weekend, we had two dances, and girls from New York and the surrounding area would come up to the Academy to dance with the cadets. Nearly every weekend, I would meet a group of girls at the door, greet them loudly with a big smile, and find them seats. After they got settled, I would start asking each of them to dance. The hot chicks almost always initially declined. So, I danced with their friends, and then came back to the table, bringing along a few friends. By the end of the night, I ALWAYS ended up with the hottest chick there.
Some of them would take me outside and try to do a tonsillectomy on me. Others literally laid down on the ground with their legs in the air. I was the one who played hard to get. And it drove them nuts.
In high school, for a short time, I worked in a clothing store. Whenever the girls came in to buy clothes, they would pick an outfit, and ask me my opinion since I was serving them. I ALWAYS rejected the first outfit, declaring that they looked like crap in that. Then I proceeded to choose their clothes for them. The very fact that I dismissed their own personal taste in clothes, and substituted my own put me at a higher level. They always bought more from me, and the manager of the store never understood why.
You’ve got to understand the psyche of women. In addition to my 24 year old son, I have two hot daughters. They enjoy testing men. You have to pass that test. And in order to do that, you have to DEMONSTRATE higher value.
Women naturally crave to be dominated. It’s in their DNA. Most don’t know themselves well enough to admit it, but it’s in every single one of them.
And here’s a little hint: You ARE of higher value than any chick out there. It is MEN who have been responsible for every significant advance for humanity. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. No woman deserves to be placed at a higher value than yourself. As soon as you start actually believing that, it will leak into how you approach women.
You don’t have to look down your nose at women. You don’t have to be a misogynist. But women want a MAN, not a sniveling wimp. Get over the idea that women are better. They aren’t. They are meaner, less moral, less idealistic, greedier, more opportunistic, and more pliable than men. They are ready made to submit to a man who is willing to give the orders.
Those chicks at West Point “obeyed me” when I told them where to sit. I would even tell individual girls which guys to dance with, and they obeyed. It is hard-wired into them to be obedient to men. And the ones who did not obey immediately got ignored until they started obeying. Since I was the one giving the orders, I got rewarded with the hottest chick each night.
That is just how it is.
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While a lot of what you say about young women is true in general, I find it hard to believe that plebes have the time or permission to go to one, let along two dances every week-end.
Then again, you did say:
I attended West Point during my freshman (plebe) year
Which hints that you didn’t make it to sophomore.
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Eh, they have a couple of official dances every year, on campus, but they put a stop to the debutant thing a long time ago. No more bussing hot girls in from the surrounding areas. Don’t know how old this guy is, but I question the frequency. (Also, dude, NOBODY likes freshman guys at service academies. The girls who are worth anything go for the seniors.)
However, a lot of girls fixate on those cadet uniforms – white trash looking for a way out of Hell – so it wouldn’t be out of the question for them to be overly eager to please in such an environment.
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a lot of girls fixate on those cadet uniforms – white trash looking for a way out of Hell
“They’ll lift us up where we belong…”
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The Friday night “cattle call” was always slower than Saturday, but after a week of studying and drilling, it was a necessary break to go to the dances. Doors opened at 7:00 pm. At 8:30, the plebes were required to leave and move to another building, leaving the main dance to the upperclassmen. So, we only had 90 minutes to convince girls to come over to the plebe location. You had to work fast.
Also, this was back in 1984, and the other reason the girls came is that the drinking age at West Point at the time was 18 years old. You could always get a beer on Friday and Saturday night.
On Saturdays, the official day ended around lunchtime. Normally, I would spend the entire afternoon playing racquet ball with a friend from Company F3 (F-troop), and then go down to the dance after dinner. I was in Company A1 (Be straight or be gone).
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This text is gold, thanks Scott!
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You should have stuck around West Point long enough for Ring Dance. Girls fly in from all over the country, in their absolute sluttiest clothes, to suck cadet cock.
Be honest. Were you kicked out, or did you choose to leave?
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I decided to leave the Academy in March of 1985 – 3/4 of the way through my plebe year. I finished the year (I was on the Dean’s list both semesters), and then moved back to Dallas.
Now, I am an executive in a company in Colorado.
As for the frequency of the dances, they were every Friday and Saturday night. The quantity and quality of the women varied from week to week. We called it the cattle call.
It is true that most of the chicks wanted to go for the upperclassmen, but I suppose since I intercepted the girls as they walked in the door, it worked differently for me. One of the most satisifying things was seeing all the upperclassmen stand around like dick-less wall flowers while I cleaned up. LOL
As for the Ring ceremony, I got to play the plebe role.
“Sir, what a beautiful ring. What a fine mass of brass and glass. What a bold mold of jewels and gold. Sir, may I touch it?”
That is what plebes were required to say when the 1st classmen (seniors for those who don’t know) burst into your room with a chick on their arm.
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Ah okay, I think it was the 90s when they did away with the dances where they’d bring in girls. It’s a lot different at the service academies now – the feminists and atheists beating all the normal people into submission, really quite sad.
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Ironically, although I opted out of a military career, my son is now a 2nd Lieutenant in the Army. He’s attached to an Apache Helicopter squadron, and is hoping to become a pilot. They don’t have as many slots for commissioned officers to fly, so he is considering giving up his commission to become a Warrant Officer so he can fly. I also have a close friend who personally knows one of the main trainers for Delta Airlines, and he is trying to get my son an interview with them to train as an international pilot.
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You should have stuck around West Point long enough for Ring Dance. Girls fly in from all over the country, in their absolute sluttiest clothes, to suck cadet cock.
Heh, heh… cynthia done told on herself.
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“the feminists and atheists beating all the normal people into submission, really quite sad.”
HAHHAHAHAHAHAAH You said it, sister! 🙂
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cynthiabuttox,
My buttox are exhibiting pre-blast characteristics. When the gas is released, it will be dense and steamy..
Then you will….
…….(wait for it, wait for it)……
Detox my Buttox.
-GB
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@YaReally immoral habd and the others who follow my posts.
I game girls in my Latin dance class all the time. I’m always practicing the alpha stance when walking to ask them to dance, in between songs teasing, eye-fucking, pulling hair.
Girls love this stuff and with some I’ve managed to bang including my crazy ex gf the connection is usually quite deep.
There is one girl I’ve gamed but not totally interested in just because I think she’s out of my age range–mid-thirties—but is tall, slim, sweet, sexy in her own way and quite conservative. But with me somehow opens up and is always giving IOI’s.
I got this text from her the other day gushing about dancing with me. It ended:
“”Definitely it’s the highlight of my crazy week!
Being a good leader is so difficult. Apart fr skills, patience, tolerance and understanding are also important but these r based on personal character more. That’s what I hv observed fr u.””
I share this because first of all this came as a total surprise. I just didn’t think this chick had it in her to have gina tingles like this. But it goes to show that much of what girls feel is hard for them to articulate. When they do it sounds very much like what we here talk about in terms of projecting positive masculinity: “patience, tolerance, understanding”—-not being rattled, amused mastery…long-game…keeping your frame.
Do chicks notice this? Absolutely. I’m now gaming two younger ones. Sometimes it takes a lot of comfort and time with these girls. They don’t immediately reply to texts. They don’t agree to go out. Yet they always give IOI’s and smile and want to dance. Not sure how to explain this. But the long game in this social circle means what this girl articulates above.
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They don’t immediately reply to texts. They don’t agree to go out.
Perhaps they are disqualifying themselves? Perhaps they’d be willing to be FB’s but not date you because of the age diff? Try inviting them to travel with you.
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I fucking love how you have this little niche going on. Seriously pioneering some of this stuff esp in Asia and being an older dude.
Thanks for sharing, always learning.
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@immoral One more thing that is a nod to your previous post about walking away.
Several months ago on OKC I met this Indonesian nanny. Now Indonesian maids have a very bad reputation for rinsing guys here. They are super hot and always find some sad loser to pay them for sex or whatever. I wrote back immediately and told her “I hope you’re not like the rest of those girls”.
We started chatting about meeting up and banging. Finally on Sunday we agree to meet up at a certain time and then come over to bang. She’s all up for it.
She’s late: 10 minutes, 15 minutes. She can’t find what is a landmark ferry pier. Finally after 30 minutes I leave. She texts she’s showed up. I tell her to come find me. No…then she has a hissy fit about how I “played” her.
I keep my frame. I say “if you were 10 minutes late ok, but 30? come on”.
A few hours pass. I get a text….it’s a selfie of her…smoking hot, short skirt…showing me I guess what I missed out on.
This is followed by an apology. I say…sure no worries, but you did flake a few times before so after 30 minutes, I had to go. She’s ok. She sends two more smoking hot selfies. Then says let’s meet up again.
I say no worries, so we’ll see how this goes, but…the apology and the sexy selfie after I flaked.
You can imagine…if the girl is 30 minutes late and can’t find a common landmark like Grand Central Station…you know she’d be shit-testing and not ready to fuck.
Now I’ve set the expectation….first I don’t pay these chicks, second, I don’t wait around.
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I’m definitely joining an improv class this summer as well as a public speaking group. Glad to see things are going well, Walawala!
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Look at doing Toastmasters in your city, there should be a chapter.
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Yup, just checked, they have a meeting this Thursday, thanks man
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For sure. Let me know if you need any guidance on that.
So you’ll go to the first meeting and see what it’s about. Eventually you will have to give your first “Ice Breaker” speech which is a 4-6min spiel about you.
At this point you will either do it or “disappear” for a few months (like I did) until you get the courage to do it.
The great thing is that you get feedback on your strengths/weaknesses. When you start getting good you will get even better feedback.
Man, I remember my legs literally fucking shaking during my first speech.
Then I remember sweating when they would call me up to do TableTopics (improve) and I still would sweat.
Then I remember giving a speech or evaluation here and getting respect from the other members.
Then you get good. You’re still nervous before but you know that when your adrenaline kicks in that you will fucking nail it. Being nervous is fine.
Then girls give you IOIs when you get that presence and clout. Shit I met up with a couple for drinks out of it too.
Then you might compete and actually place in the top 3.
Then you’re giving the best mans speech at your dad’s wedding in front of 150+ and you nail it.
But start small and go on Thursday. If the group is too small or not the right energy, find another group it’s all good.
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@Hunter thanks, I’m slowly back to my old self again. Have been focused more on inner-game. It’s starting to have results on my external game which has generally been strong.
Putting the two parts together has been a goal since my break up last year and subsequent fits and starts of recurring drama.
I’m trying to game a girl every day somehow. Sometimes on the street, sometimes at work, sometimes online, in my club etc.
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@Immoralgables Ah another skill/journey to work on lol For the record, I’m complete shit at public speaking. This will definitely help with groups.
How long have you been doing Toastmasters? According to the actual schedule in my city, I’d only be able to go 3 times a month.
I’d like to get to your level down the road lol
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@Wala Yeah dude, that’s great to hear. Really hope you stay out of that drama.
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Cops want to get a teen erect to take a picture of his dick:
http://gawker.com/cops-want-to-take-photos-of-teens-erect-penis-to-prove-1602336791
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what color is he?
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Couldn’t reply further up, this refers to the Catholic vs. Protestant thing.
First of all, Belgium is mostly Catholic – it’s basically the Catholic Netherlands – with a stronger Protestant element among the Flemish. Switzerland ditto, with a stronger Protestant element among the German speakers. Germany is largely Catholic southwest of, say, Frankfurt, largely Protestant northeast.
The dude who said a French or Italian (Catholic) girl is naturally hotter than a Danish or Swedish (Protestant) girl has either never been to either of these places or has a thing for Mediterranean women.
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Switzerland ditto, with a stronger Protestant element among the German speakers. Germany is largely Catholic southwest of, say, Frankfurt, largely Protestant northeast.
The French Swiss are actually more Protestant than the German Swiss; Geneva was John Calvin’s headquarters, and the philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau was also a Protestant French Swiss. The few French-Swiss Catholics actually joined up with German Swiss to make Catholic cantons such as Fribourg and Valais because they preferred to be in the same canton with Catholic Germans over Protestant French.
As for Germany: Although some parts of Bavaria are close to being solidly Catholic, and Schleswig-Holstein and some parts of Lower Saxony solidly Protestant, West Germany is actually religiously mixed up and down its entire length. East Germany is basically ex-Protestant irreligious all over.
The dude who said a French or Italian (Catholic) girl is naturally hotter than a Danish or Swedish (Protestant) girl has either never been to either of these places or has a thing for Mediterranean women.
I explicitly mentioned a blonde French/Italian girl. Northern Italy and France both have a decent number of blondes. The French language itself is basically a mutilated Latin dialect spoken with a thick Norman (Danish) accent.
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Why should I think that any girls are out of my league?
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I’ve noticed a slight paradox (on display at a house party I was just at): women in the 4-6 range may have harder bitch-shields and more entitled attitudes than 7+ girls, but they also appear to recognize when they don’t have a shot with a man because he’s hanging around with the 7+s, and will reject him. The harshest rejections I’ve gotten these past few years were either from women of average looks, or those creeping up on the Wall.
I’m sure there’s also a healthy dose of sour grapes which is multiplied society-wide into average-looking or older women grousing about men who go after hot young bimbos, and assuaging their wounded egos with empty flattery about non-existent “inner beauty.” Unfortunately, most women are homely, so you hear this sort of ego-assuaging sour-grapes crap all… the time.
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Ouch
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-korth/sex-over-50_b_5563576.html?utm_hp_ref=fifty&ir=Fifty
‘On Monday evening over the phone, I asked this man who had shared my bed for three nights running why we had not made love. “Your body is too wrinkly,” he said without a pause. “I have spoiled myself over the years with young woman. I just can’t get excited with you. I love your energy and your laughter. I like your head and your heart. But, I just can’t deal with your body.”
I was stunned. The hurt would come later. I asked him slowly and carefully if he found my body hard to look at. He said yes. “So, this means seeing me naked was troublesome to you?” I asked. He told me he had just looked away. And when the lights were out, he pretended my body was younger — that I was younger.’
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The man either was genuinely unaware on what the body of a woman pushing 60 would be like, or is a dumbass. He should have simply passed on dating any woman over 40, let alone 59, and I hope he does so in the future. Sheesh.
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Plums over prunes, always.
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I can relate…there is this woman who is obsessed with me who calls me everyday, she is the nicest woman I ever met,but when I saw her naked I freaked out.
I usually like to keep the lights on but with her I did not want to see, and I tried to think of my ex who had a superb body.
Everything is wrinkly and saggy…it is impossible for me to be passionate about such a woman even though she has the best personality.
Part of me feels sad for her, but I just can not be with her, I have to be passionate about what I see, not only about what us in her heart and her head.
Men are very visual, I am very visual. At some point I had no choice but to tell her I had trouble looking at her naked body.
She is my age but I look 15 years younger while she looks older than her age.
with clothes on she is cute, she even has an hourglass figure, she gets a lot of attention from men but they have no idea what is under her clothes. how everything is very saggy and wrinkly.
sorry if I go on and on, but I am right smack in the middle of a similar situation as the Huffington story..
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Women gotta understand, God put our eyes right up front…
Personality? Well, okay… but our ears are way back on the head.
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> “she is the nicest woman I ever met,but when I saw her naked I freaked out”
How many years of fertility does she have left in her womb?
Or is she already menopausal/post-menopausal?
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She is kind of old is all I’m sayin’…( but then again so am I )
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“Women gotta understand, God put our eyes right up front…”
yep, that’s why older guys shouldn’t get lazik eye surgery if they want to stay faithful to their old girls. eyes are supposed to go bad when you age so you still see your girl the way she was before the wall.
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How many years of fertility does she have left in her womb?
Or is she already menopausal/post-menopausal?
Nice rhetorical question. A woman’s aging is nature’s way of telling the man he won’t be getting any buns in dat oven.
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Forget about buns or anything else in that oven… the pilot light is out.
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“I didn’t even want to try to explain the hurt and the horror that he had inflicted upon me. I actually felt sickly sorry for this man as I hung up the phone”
!!!Hamster time!!!!
HE HAD INFLICTED ON HER!
Try servicing a monster and you’ll understand what horror is.
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Touché…it’s always about her…she has displayed for the whole world to see her own self centered narcissism, and does not even realize it. The vanity of her own lost beauty, the demand that this poor man who is being honest with her lie about her own grotesque appearance.
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OT, but this is really the best that betas have to look forward to:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=2&thread=2343484&page=1&pc=109
TLDR:
Dude marries divorced single mom with son from extramarital affair.
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how can people say babies so expensive my chick just found out she preggers already got 5 people offering free baby clothes
pretty sure we can get the free crib stroller and all that shit
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lol my chick just told me there is program you go to a class an hour a week and get baby bucks and can get new crib stroller and shit lol
but yea with midget I guess all the shit will be free
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free carseat list just seems to go on and on
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ahh the first shit test
can’t smoke in house with baby when it comes hahahahahaa
she finally gonna get a way to have a reason maybe to control me
oh shit
then I can complain how I have to change my life for the children and dhv
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not even the zs shit that made me do it I told her she could have my kid over a year and half ago
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Between church and craigslist, there’s always people ready to donate baby stuff.
And WTF… quit smoking, you fairy.
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tell me this ain’t freaky though
I called two chicks night before and deleted the numbers so she didn’t know when I wasn’t awake to tell her she told me she had a dream last night we were on coach I was on the end there was a chick hiding behind the coach kissing me and when she saw it she told that chick to get the fuck out of the house then when that chick was leaving she saw another chick in house and she searched her to make sure she didn’t have any shit from house and she had 5 bucks and she tore it up and had her leave
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so far people in neighborhood coming out woodwork
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smoking builds character
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It does the opposite of building character… it reveals the lack of it.
Smoking pollutes the body… AND the soul.
It’s an affront to the Creator.
And he who will not respect his own temple, well… what WILL he respect?
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I doubt there is creater but if there is I am sure I can be ok on the smoking thing or anything else I do in this life unless it is suicide and even then
but yea I think I just saw a piece of little gregi greg in a pee cup
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Greg Eliot
It’s an affront to the Creator.
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Says the man who practices and supports the mistreatment and abuse of the original people the Creator created.
White man much?
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oh, silly kneegro, you’re not human.
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Says the man who practices and supports the mistreatment and abuse of the original people the Creator created.
White man much?
Thwack, you disingenuous twerp, come up with a better spiel, this record is played and worn to the last groove.
I neither practice nor support the mistreatment of men of good will, whatever their colour.
You snarky darkie muh-dikkers, however, deserve both barrels of whatever Rooney Rifle is at hand…
And if you think YT is abusing you, wait’ll the rightful owner of the planet returns.
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It’s funny. Getting into shape just made me want to do stuff like smoke, drink, fight, etc. way more. Anyway, smoking rules.
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not smoking ya will have more loot he he he
if ya havn’t really started
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Dumb ass, as usual… why does your smoking not surprise me?
The only place smoking rules is the hospital ward… the horror so grave that I wouldn’t even wish it on you.
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What am I supposed to do, quit?
Nobody likes a quitter, Greggy.
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> “my chick just found out she preggers”
BOO-YAH!!!!!
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lol. mee too. haha. my katie perry lookalike gonna get fat hehe
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no fucking way dude
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yep. like 10-12 weeks at this point i think. one of those chicks that other girls fawn over….legit class, gracious as hell. i tease the shit out of her…..mean as hell. she loves it.
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was it an accident or did ya try
congrats either way I guess but you know I covered my bases lol
and have the network to take care of the midgems without undo strain he he he
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well, neither of us were really trying to prevent it.
she is seriously hot and one of those quiet smart girls…unexcitable.
i’m stoked.
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if its a boy you can send him to my make a superman trade school lol
if its a girl well just have to make sure she marries money
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have you noticed an uptick in female attention
I swear to god I almost got raped at the dmv in front of 50 people the chicks behind counter were talking about getting up on counter and dancing
it was like I had an audience went out to my girl outside and told her I never got hit on that hard chick was walking by busted out laughing
it was crazy thugh
anther chick came to house was def ready to also be impregnated by me i’m like wohhh slow down we aint having sex he he he
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oh yeah. its gotta be the natural drop in T….i am all the sudden soft and cuddly and the competition is in hyperdrive
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oh yeah. its gotta be the natural drop in T….i am all the sudden soft and cuddly and the competition is in hyperdrive””””””
I feel wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
more on alert
like ready to take someone down in a second if comes close to my bitches belly
not like I normally aint ready to take someone down but yea
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tried to be sneaky called two chicks and deleted em cause I didn’t want her to take emotional hit wen I was asleep when she checked phone he he he
she had dream about two chicks in house she had to kick out
I told her about the calls freaky shit
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this is why I don’t try to lie apparently even when you delete a text in one spot it is still in another spot that text went out my girl just showed me hahahahahahahaha
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Ok…a little peripheral to this topic….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-korth/sex-over-50_b_5563576.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063
Considering my crazy ex gf was ok with dumping me for no good reason to chase after a fat dude with gout who has a few cars and buys friends expensive dinners…why is this piece considered so outrageous????
You go girl!!!!
This story is worth a post on its own…the hypocrisy of hypergamy.
Dude can’t get hard, asks his kind of girl-pal to start dressing up….she refuses. He’s is “confused”,
Oh…she’s 59 and he’s 55.
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idk if you guys have seen this, but it’s kind of cool:
http://womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/
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I’m quite relieved that the security guards at the Eaton Centre are working harder to prevent these misogynist creeps from approaching me. I don’t owe you men nothing you scum
[CH: you sound loved.]
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Does it sting when you find the security guards napping, yet you’re STILL not getting approached?
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she sounds loved….by her cats
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heartiste, review this:
this sums up what is known already: looks don’t get you girls.
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Heartiste? That link to the article about the woman who loved a felon? Yeah, I’m not sure if that’s a troll or not. Sounds just like something one of us might write to troll HuffPo. Key: her fake name for her lover is the same as a Street Fighter II character.
Then again, could be too real to be a parody.
Truth rape….?
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In current events, how NOT to hold frame when interacting with a two-digit (three digit?) anal partner# skank.
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Look at that l0ser leaning into the skank, and the skank leaning away. For shame.
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His face is mocking. It looks like he’s attempting humor by pretending beta/creepy.
In any event, Rhianna’s 15 minutes are well up.
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Always be a Kloser.
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your closing words are poetic CH;
They are more grateful, and more interested,
when a man dares to pierce their bubble of hotness.
To approach a beauty such as she,
why, this man must truly: be worth her company!
beautiful.
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so my chick has taken to wearing my shirt I wear all day to bed every day
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I concur that 9 & 10s are not as difficult to pick up. However, if it’s a relationship you’re looking for, then beware. In my experience the 9 & 10s are bat-shit crazy and high maintenance. There’s a reason you’ve seen or heard: “No matter how hot the woman, some guy out there is tired of banging her.”
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Well, there is that.
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Have heard the ‘hot girls don’t get hit on’ mantra before and never really believed it however in a bar just the other night I went up to a HB9 I met recently, I had already DHV’d (play in a rock band) and knew there was some interest there. So to try out the theory I went full direct and took her outside. Plenty of kino, running my hands up her arms, back, through her hair etc. She wouldn’t kiss me (‘you’re older than my mum’ lol) but has been texting me since yesterday. I asked her how come she’s single and she said she ‘hardly ever gets asked out’. Wow, just need to overcome her age objection now and she’ll be good to go (19 years between us).
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Nice pussy possibility frontier you constructed there CH. You obviously paid attention in your Econ 169 class.
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Only sigmas and Gammas know to hit on a girl above their league. Alphas and Betas are just flat out stupid to think one should only hit on their league.
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prettiest girl – loneliest girl
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