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Plums Before Prunes

July 14, 2014 by CH

A 59-year-old woman, international speaker and writer (“productive citizen”), laments the icy rejection she received at the hands of a 55-year-old man who felt a surge of natural male biological disgust for her naked wrinkly old lady body.

And so, we planned a weekend together. That’s when things got confusing, unspoken and just-not-quite there. We went to bed in a couple’s way — unclothed and touching — all parts near. Kisses were shared and sleep came in hugs. I attempted more intimacy throughout the weekend and was deterred each time.

On Monday evening over the phone, I asked this man who had shared my bed for three nights running why we had not made love. “Your body is too wrinkly,” he said without a pause. “I have spoiled myself over the years with young woman. I just can’t get excited with you. I love your energy and your laughter. I like your head and your heart. But, I just can’t deal with your body.”

I was stunned. The hurt would come later. I asked him slowly and carefully if he found my body hard to look at. He said yes. “So, this means seeing me naked was troublesome to you?” I asked. He told me he had just looked away. And when the lights were out, he pretended my body was younger — that I was younger. My breath came deep and full as I processed this information. My face blazed as I felt embarrassed and shamed by memories of my easy nakedness with him in days just passed.

We talked for some time more, my head reeling at the content of the conversation. He spoke of special stockings and clothing that would “hide” my years. He blithely told me he loved “little black dresses” and strappy shoes. He said my hair was not long and flowing as he preferred, but that was okay because it was “cool looking.” I felt like a Barbie Doll on acid as I listened to this man. He was totally oblivious to the viciousness of his words.

She thinks this man a sadistic monster, but he was perhaps more honest with her (and with himself) than any man she has known. They aren’t called the ugly truths for nothing.

Men don’t get impotent; women get old. You won’t hear any therapist telling that raw reality to struggling older couples. Be prepared for soul-flaying pain of this nature to become commonplace in post-sanity and post-restricted female sexuality America. Marriage rates are at a historical low and never-married or divorced older women are desperate for romance. They’re in the field when they should be in the home with grandchildren, deluding themselves that the older men who they think by rights are theirs instead are more interested in the younger women with tighter bodies and fresher histocompatibilities. And to make matters worse, more than a few of those younger women love the company of older men.

The sexual market is not equal. It’s not fair. It’s not progressive. And it’s not a rom-com with a happy ending. It is a tearjerker, however.

Compounding the difficulties that older, single women face in the arena of zero-sum mate acquisition is the altered perspective of single older men who are accustomed to dating younger women. When you’ve tasted a morsel of Kobe filet mignon and washed it down with a 2010 Hewitt cabernet, an 80/20 ground beef burger with a tepid Bud Light just isn’t going to get you up in the morning.

Some commenters had a fun time with this lady’s id yelp.

I can relate…there is this woman who is obsessed with me who calls me everyday, she is the nicest woman I ever met,but when I saw her naked I freaked out.

I usually like to keep the lights on but with her I did not want to see, and I tried to think of my ex who had a superb body.

Everything is wrinkly and saggy…it is impossible for me to be passionate about such a woman even though she has the best personality.

Part of me feels sad for her, but I just can not be with her, I have to be passionate about what I see, not only about what us in her heart and her head.

Men are very visual, I am very visual. At some point I had no choice but to tell her I had trouble looking at her naked body.

She is my age but I look 15 years younger while she looks older than her age.

with clothes on she is cute, she even has an hourglass figure, she gets a lot of attention from men but they have no idea what is under her clothes. how everything is very saggy and wrinkly.

sorry if I go on and on, but I am right smack in the middle of a similar situation as the Huffington story..

***

Women gotta understand, God put our eyes right up front…

Personality? Well, okay… but our ears are way back on the head.

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“I didn’t even want to try to explain the hurt and the horror that he had inflicted upon me. I actually felt sickly sorry for this man as I hung up the phone”

!!!Hamster time!!!!

HE HAD INFLICTED ON HER!

Try servicing a monster and you’ll understand what horror is.

Older women’s best hope is for an epidemic of mass amnesia to strike men and men only. In this way, no single older man crashing the dating market and creating tsunamis for older female hamsters to surf will remember what prime pussy looks and feels like under clothes. Unencumbered by these fond recollections, he can more easily be catechized in the belief of stylishly-clothed but surreptitiously wrinkled hags as the pinnacle of female sexuality… at least for a short while, until his occipital resumes control of his prefrontal and penile.

The whole sordid spectacle reminds me of a dating exploit from a time not yet beyond crystalline recall. I had met a 20-ish blonde in the dusky brick-relief bowels of a drunken after-party. Already buzzing from one drink too many, I began to imagine scenarios… transactions… with her shapely vessel as she spoke of childhood dreams and favorite movie scenes. I made feints toward a same night lay (never a dull moment on the CH sexpress) but she wouldn’t bite, preferring instead to indicate her interest with strong pleas for a follow-up date. “you will call me, right?” “you’ve got my number right there.” SMILE SMILE SMILE “i’ll see you soon!”

Sufficiently sated from recent conquests, I dropped the idea of an effortful seduction whisking her from venue to vainroom before sleepiness took its toll. I agreed to call her, and confessed to myself that the date was happily anticipated. I like blondes. I like 20-ish women. I like them most when they like me in kind.

Two evenings later, we met at a small bistro. She was already there when I arrived, seated indoors under bright light only paces from an outdoor area softly illumined by decorative patio lights. This was her critical mistake. From twenty feet, barely through the restaurant’s entranceway and acutely sober, I saw her heart-swelling silhouette from two nights ago, now unshadowed, had morphed into the splotchy, shattering skin wrap of a woman accelerating to her upper 30s. My smile dropped faster than an unsupported witch’s teat.

I am a master actor when crisis calls, but this disappointment was too great to conceal. She caught the full impact of it and, exacerbated by the contrast of my insanely youthful countenance, stood up from our table seconds after I had introduced myself to calmly but with a hint of croak in her voice cut the date short with a prematurity that must have set land speed records. “if it’s ok with you, we really don’t have to do this. i’m not ready for this. I’m so sorry.” Her entire body downcast and my guilt cresting a harsh wave, I eagerly (but not too eagerly!) accepted her offer.

It’s hard out there for the older woman. Yer ‘umble mareslayer revels in revealing the barbarous clashes that bloody the innersides of our polite vestments, but in real life he’s a bit less callous and handles life’s sad cameos with a softer glove.

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  1. on July 14, 2014 at 11:18 am everybodyhatesscott

    If you get married young (and don’t get fat) hubby still sees you as young.

    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2012/07/why-your-old-wife-is-still-young-and.html

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:49 pm Ras Al ghul

      I call bullshit on that one. If you’re married to space bunny or heidi klum, sure its not much of a stretch. If he is blinded by love, meaning she’s decent on the inside and not the typical sex killing bitch that the vast majority of wives are I can (maybe) see it.

      But for the vast majority of men its a slow horror show to watch that beauty(what little the have) fade like a melted candle wax forming a puddle of goo, sagginess, dull hair, bad teeth, lump body. Its like H.P. Lovecraft wrote a “Shadow over Innsmouth” but instead of the protagonist slowly changing into a Deep One he finds that he is married to one.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:57 pm Mofo

        I believe it. You don’t even have to be married to them, you just have to have known them (and can still remember what they looked like) when they were young. I’ve had sex with a handful of post-wall divorced moms that I knew back in their late teens/early 20s when they were among the most attractive women I knew. While they still resembled their younger selves enough for me to bang they would certainly have been off of my radar had I not known them when younger. A young man’s fantasies are a powerful and enduring thing. Quality boob jobs and gym time certainly help to facilitate the fantasy though.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:26 pm chi-town

        Yeah I don’t think its quite like that. A younger wife who ages gracefully rather than getting bitchy and fat helps a lot. Its also likely an adaptation since she still channels resources to your off spring and keeps the clan intact.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm gcm

        The vast majority of males today rarely take umbrage to the fact that their wives generally, and gradually, turn to pudding by their 40’s. Today’s married men are too busy building their lives and taking care of the house. Besides, they turn to porn or stripjoints for comfort, and perhaps the occasional mistress IF they have cajones to pull it off.

        And, “spacebunny”? Trust me, she is fading fast!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:28 pm gcm

        “Spacebunny”? Trust me, she’s getting long in the tooth.

        And, today’s men really aren’t that concerned if their wives turn to pudding, they have money to make and kids to take care of.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 am ho

        “Its like H.P. Lovecraft wrote a “Shadow over Innsmouth” but instead of the protagonist slowly changing into a Deep One he finds that he is married to one.”

        Brilliant.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 8:56 am maldek

        @darius

        The 22yo will give you better sex for the simple fact she is 22 and not 44.

        On the other hand, it sounds like “I give up”, when talking about your wife.
        To me it reads like your alpha frame is still weak. You dont have to “fight battles” with your wife. You say what you expect and she does her very best to make it happen.

        Everything else she might say or do is a shit-test to see if your new frame is for real.

        I give you an example, taken from your posting.
        “duty sex 2x per month”
        -> You take her to a nice, romantic dinner and first talk about when you two met, that you have 3 wonderful children and what great goals you reached us a couple.
        Then you look her straight into the eyes – and keep it that way – and say: But there is one big problem in our relationship. Our sexlife has been bad and boring lately and I want this to change.

        I expect (1 or 2 times a week – pick something that suits you) sex with you and I do expect QUALITY sex.
        With this I mean at least 1 hour, you looking good with nice hair, make up, shaved, sexy dressed (whatever suits you).

        To make this happen I will tell you in the morning what I want and you have all day to prepare, so you can make 100% sure it will be great.

        Then you take the shit-storm that is coming your way – still looking in her eyes – you stay calm, you dont explain, you dont say much at all – just look. If the shit-storm is getting out of hand (you are at a public place, remember), you ask for the bill, you pay and you leave her sitting there. Be a man.

        If the shit-storm is somewhat reasonable and she is showing understanding, even better. Just dont negotiate, stick to the plan, stick to your rules and she will be a happier wife.

        Note. She can be damn happy that you still are interested in her aging body as a man with options. She is damn lucky to have you and you can replace her much, much easier than she could replace you. YOU ARE DOING HER A FAVOR BY FUCKING HER!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:04 pm ballocaust

      they’re called wife goggles for a reason.
      shitting a man out a brood of sons vs. getting worn out on the eat-pray-love circuit produces markedly different responses

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:25 pm Nicole

        It also produces different results.

        Each woman is a living temple of her Goddess. You can tell which ones are fertility and which ones are death.

        Those who chose fertility do what they do and then age gracefully. Those who chased money well…they have their money.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:35 pm Ted Cunterblast

        WTF?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:51 pm cynthia

        I think she’s saying the nasty, materialistic bitches don’t age well. Which is true.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:02 pm PA

        Each woman is a living temple of her Goddess. You can tell which ones are fertility and which ones are death

        Many disagreements aside, this is an example of a good turn of phrase by Nicole.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:15 pm darius

        This. Been married 12 years and wife is now early 40s. 3 kids. I still find her (or should say found her) sexy and attractive even with the added wrinkles, sagging parts, etc. Partly I suppose it’s just because I was so familiar with her body, so the gradual sagging and wrinkles weren’t shocking to me. I was slowly conditioned to them over time. And there is something to be said for coupling exclusively over the course of a lifetime with the same loving, willing partner [emphasis on loving and willing].

        But, alas in my case it’s not to be. Wife’s just not that interested in fucking. Yes, my previous years of betatude surely has something to do with it — a huge part. I own that… That’s MY cross to bear. (Parenthetically to the young beta husbands out there… I implore you to alpha up quick. As CH, Rollo and others here have remarked, once your betatude crosses a certain rubicon and is firmly established in a relationship, you’ve dug a hole that is incredibly difficult to get out of. I’m not even sure it’s possible.)

        I finally intuitively “got” that alpha behavior was the key to a successful partnership and have upped the alpha big time. It’s had amazing results in almost all other areas of my life. But in my case it appears that it may be too late for the marriage. She’s an Eat-Pray-Love type… Bitchy and bossy. Always has been. And because of my beta conditioning early on, that’s what I found most attractive believe it or not. The uphill battle I’ve had to reestablish dominance in the relationship has been truly epic and not particularly fruitful.

        Now I’m slowly reaching the point where I just don’t care anymore. It’s not worth the fight. I’m late 40s, and have found that it would be far easier for me to just pull younger tail discreetly on the side. A lithe, attractive, hard-bodied 22 year old who is in awe of a more experienced, older man is quite the aphrodisiac. The way she looks up at you wide-eyed and innocent. The sexy way she gets butterflies around you. There’s a certain charming emotional gawkiness and innocence that is spectacularly arousing.

        Sure, I could file for divorce, but with 3 kids, the certain prospect of divorce rape, and all the other drama it’s not worth it. Ironically, my last best chance with the wife is her either finding out that I have pieces of ass on the side, or suspecting I do. And when she does (she already suspects I think), I will be entirely unapologetic. Mediocre duty sex reluctantly offered twice a month is just as much an assault on marriage vows as stepping out as far as I’m concerned. At that point, she will have two options. I’ll be at peace with either of them.

        None of this is meant to be a bitchfest. I own the choices I’ve made completely. I sure as hell wish that I had been more skeptical of feminist cultural paradigms in my 20s and had intuitively embraced the importance of alpha behavior early on, but that ship has sailed. Better to come to alpha understanding late in life than not at all.

        But for the betas out there reading this, make no mistake: Continue down the path of betatude and you will wrestle with some pretty excruciating options down the road.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:52 pm Heywood Jablome

        Nicole says:

        <blockquote<Each woman is a living temple of her Goddess.

        Way to spiritualize the simple & logical decision to stay slim & not be bitchy.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm Ronin

        @darius

        Dave from Hawaii, maybe? https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/

        Athol Kay?
        http://marriedmansexlife.com/

        sounds like you know all this stuff already though.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:52 pm teabagher

        “Mediocre duty sex reluctantly offered twice a month”

        this is not uncommon. at all. the stats that married men have more sex than single men are heavily skewed by a small group of married men plowing their hot wives twice a day.

        daygame will lead to more than twice a month and those girls will at least be into it. and they can’t take your shit when they leave.

        [CH: married man sex life stats are also skewed upward by the large number of single incels. but i bet the men who get the most sex (absolute and number or partners) are unmarried players.]

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:30 pm Spartantom

        Yep. Agreed on the wife goggles.

        My wife has been through countless surgeries, babies, wrinkles, fat rolls and yet she still does it for me. Definitely not the same as your blonde 20 somethings though. But the familiarity, good memories and gratitude for the kiddies etc lends a hand to the old stove pipe.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 11:37 am Zombie Shane

        > “I sure as hell wish that I had been more skeptical of feminist cultural paradigms in my 20s and had intuitively embraced the importance of alpha behavior early on, but that ship has sailed.”

        STOP THE VICIOUS CYCLE – TEACH YOUR BOYS GAME. Do not let Mrs Eat Pray Bitch turn them into soft manboobed loser schlubtarded bed-wetting cunts.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:11 pm Southern Man

      Yep. Face, it, ladies – that hard working beta provider that you’ve been married to for twenty years sees you as far more beautiful than the guys you’ll try to hook up with after you divorce him. Heck, my ex is as big as a whale today but when she appears in a dream it’s as the slender beauty she was when we were dating. Oddly enough, in these dreams the children are their current ages. Wife (or in this case ex-wife) goggles, indeed…

      And my mother (who is pushing eighty) is still beautiful. Don’t even try to argue with me about that.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 8:56 am Amy

        Love this ❤

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:31 pm david

      This really hits home for me as I reflect over the past weekend. This is a perfect example of a cougar on the hunt, (Im not stupid I allowed the scenario). I met a woman that was forward enough to come sit with me at a restaurant and start a conversation, i guess you could say we have since become friends. I feel sorry for her to tell the honest truth. She is a 47 year old divorced woman still playing the game of a 30 yr old. She was divorced at 23 and has never re-married. She rode the cock-carousel and doesnt want to get off even though reality is staring her in the face. She doesnt want to do dating sites because its not “Organic”.she doesnt need to work due to daddy’s trust fund, is a self proclaimed feminist, but we clicked on religion. We went hiking once, now she proceeds to call me and talk to me about once or twice a week. She invited me over to cheef at her place, we cuddled and smoked, But I was very real with her about the situation and spelled it out for her, how this with (Im 23) a young man can never ever work even if she is wealthy. Just even from a biological standpoint, shes not ugly, but she has seen better days (trust me). I know for a fact that what CH is saying is true. I am 23, but I will forever be frozen to be naturally attracted to younger, sweeter, fruit. Its just this woman has nobody and her parents are failing in health, her woman friends are as crazy or more than her.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 1:12 pm Jay in DC

        I am 23, but I will forever be frozen to be naturally attracted to younger, sweeter, fruit.

        Welcome to the XY Chromosome Curse (Blessing?)

        I made this realization at the ripe old age of 14 years old, not kidding. I remember my slutty little catholic school hottie, also 14, taking her top off, panties off, but leaving the jacked up school girl skirt on as she squatted on me.

        It was a moment of clarity I’ve only experienced a few times in my life. She was working me down like a pro with those pert young tits pointing skyward and I remember thinking- “This is what every man desires, what is right here in front of me.” I realized at that moment I was tasting of the sweetest nectar the gods have provided for us. Teenage pussy.

        Had I been the alpha poonslayer I am today, I’d have carved a MUCH wider swath through that catholic ‘ho in training’ academy. But sadly, even though I had that realization at an age where most boys cannot even find the hole, I was content with “a girlfriend” for the most part. I still did far better than my peers in both quantity and quality but nothing compared to have I’d have done armed with the knowledge I know bear in 2014.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 5:11 am xxxxxxxxx

      I’m a believer of the adage : You break it, you own it. If a woman wrecks her body bearing your monsterous progeny, you have an obligation to stay with her or if you can’t, an obligation to make sure she is not worse off without you.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 8:24 pm Ac1114a

        Too many women hoodwink the gullible beta into the 3 kids and picket fence dream only to provide monthly lay-down-like-shes-dead sex. No further obligation warranted. Go away lady.

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  2. on July 14, 2014 at 11:28 am Mister H

    We’ve gone very quickly from a society in which any sign of female sexuality was considered shameful to one where it’s celebrated, and from one in which male sexuality was somewhat tolerated to one where it shamed.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:39 pm Zombie Shane

      > “They’re in the field when they should be in the home with grandchildren… The sexual market is not equal. It’s not fair. It’s not progressive.”

      This. They should have been making babies in their 20s and 30s, instead of spending 10s of 1000s of $$$s on fertility treatments in their mid-40s.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 12:43 pm Zombie Shane

        My only quibble would be with the word “sexual” before the word “market”. What old women do is NOT “sex”. Sex is something which results in the creation of progeny afterwards. To the best of my knowledge, we don’t have a proper word in the English language for what old women do, unless you want to call it “fornication” or “unnatural acts” or similar.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm Zombie Shane

        In the plant kingdom, a female fruit tree or a female fruit vine can continue to be pollinated by a male of the species unto its dying days – often 75 or 100 years or more – the female plant just needs a bee [or the wind] to carry the pollen to its destination. But a human female spends the second half of her life with a barren womb and is never again capable of “sex”.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:26 pm corvinus

        But a human female spends the second half of her life with a barren womb and is never again capable of “sex”.

        One mystery to me is why women live longer than men, when biologically speaking they should be kicking off in their 50s or so.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:30 pm anonYmous

        sex without possibility of progeny = failure… i said years ago it was using women for masterbation. But mayb we should create a word.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:52 pm Old Broad

        Evolution is about grandchildren. Way back when, old women were encyclopedias of child care. Old men were the same for hunting lore.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:18 pm Zombie Shane

        > “using women for masterbation”

        So much pure, raw, unadulterated TRUTH in this simple observation.

        Find a nice young girl with a good heart and a fertile womb and start putting buns in her oven.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Way back when, old women were encyclopedias of child care. Old men were the same for hunting lore.”

        And also encyclopedias of HOW TO COOK WORTH A DAMN. So that, among other things, the game which the men brought back from the hunt could be cooked up for dinner so that it didn’t taste putrid.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:57 pm Heywood Jablome

        One mystery to me is why women live longer than men, when biologically speaking they should be kicking off in their 50s or so.

        Divine punishment, perhaps?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm corvinus

        Divine punishment, perhaps?

        By giving them a forty-year stretch of being a struldbrugg, you mean? Possibly. Although in the meantime they do a lot of damage by voting leftoid and making a lot of inane useless noise.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:31 pm gcm

        “This. They should have been making babies in their 20s and 30s”

        I would rather have these chicks NOT reproduce than have litters of rug rats running amok, clothed in Gap Kids and listening to Disney Channel. We are all better off in the long run.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:14 pm Zombie Shane

        > “I would rather have these chicks NOT reproduce”

        Dude, the Left has NOT been reproducing for the last 40 years. That’s why they desperately need these millions of juvenile armadillos which the Chimpanzee-in-Chief has been ordering up from Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:14 pm corvinus

        Dude, the Left has NOT been reproducing for the last 40 years. That’s why they desperately need these millions of juvenile armadillos which the Chimpanzee-in-Chief has been ordering up from Guatemala and Honduras and El Salvador.

        Look on the bright side: they’re scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel now, and demographic decline is striking even there.

        Well, I suppose they could encourage a mass exodus by boat from Haiti, but the country has no forest cover any more to provide wood. Heh heh.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm Zombie Shane

      > “female sexuality… celebrated… male sexuality… shamed.”

      All part and parcel of the Frankfurt School’s war to destroy the White Race by denying the very conception of any White children, much less the live birth of those children nine months later. NO POLLEN, NO FRUIT.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:05 pm Zombie Shane

        > “male sexuality… shamed.”

        With the added benefit to the Frankfurt School that only intelligent and industrious and MASCULINE men can ever put together the Revolution to destroy the Frankfurt School once and for all. NO MASCULINITY, NO REVOLUTION.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:21 pm Zombie Shane

        BTW, “NO POLLEN, NO FRUIT” is also why it is so imperative that the Frankfurt School render the English language completely impotent and incapable of conveying meaning when they describe what sodomites do as “homosexuality”. There is no sex involved in sodomy, and the unword “homosexual” is internally inconsistent – the very structure of that unword contradicts itself.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:21 pm Zombie Shane

      “Plums Before Prunes… The sexual market is not equal. It’s not fair.”

      I want to try to take one more stab at this. Post-menopausal women aren’t even IN the “sexual” market anymore because they are no longer sexual creatures – they are barren! So even the “prune” analogy isn’t fully valid – a prune is at least edible.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:23 pm Zombie Shane

        PLUM == late teens or early 20s lass with two decades of fertility remaining

        PRUNE == 40-ish milf with 5 good years of fertilty remaining

        ROTTEN HUSK OF PLUM STONE HOLLOWED OUT BY CODLING MOTH WORM == post-menopausal woman

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:38 pm Zombie Shane

        BTW, de Vere often used the imagery of the worm in his descriptions of death, and he even used it explicitly in conjunction with fertility, in Sonnet 6, when he was urging Southampton to take a mate and make progeny by her: “Be not self-will’d, for thou art much too fair – To be death’s conquest and make worms thine heir.”

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 5:47 pm Matthew

        Assuming the sale, Literary Edition.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 6:28 pm DeNihilist

      Anon – ” i said years ago it was using women for masterbation. But mayb we should create a word.”

      LOL! I masterbated 3 times in the old ladies poosy this weekend!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:58 pm nomad

        good for you man. you know these guys aren’t getting anything close to that kind of action. rock on.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 12:59 pm Zombie Shane

      I was thinking about whether you could call a post-menopausal woman, “erotic”, as in “For an old Bag of Bones, Helen Mirren is kinda erotic, in a prunish sorta way.” But Merriam-Webster says that erotic means “of, devoted to, or tending to arouse SEXUAL love or desire ; strongly marked or affected by SEXUAL desire”, and since post-menopausal women are no longer sexual, that means that the word “erotic” can’t be used to describe them, at least not in the English language.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 1:05 pm Zombie Shane

        So then I got to reading about what “Eros” meant in the original Greek, and the myth of Eros mating with Chaos versus Eros mating with Psyche, and it’s as though the Greeks were writing about everything we talk about here at the Chateau. The really weird thing is that the Greeks [and the Romans] associated FERTILITY with the male [Eros], whereas they associated BEAUTY with the female [Psyche]. And I guess maybe “Chaos” was what we would now call Borderline Personality Disorder?

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 1:07 pm Zombie Shane

        It’s absolutely fascinating reading; I strongly urge anyone in the Manosphere to check it out:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eros

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  3. on July 14, 2014 at 11:32 am jr

    So all the 50 plus year old men are going to pile into the under-30 female market?

    For some, maybe, but not for the majority. So God is laughing at the way he set up the human condition. It’s a tearjerker for men and women. For any 50 year old guy in bed with a women who’s available and he can’t get it up for her and has no recourse in the sexual marketplace for girls 30 years younger, he is in a bit of a quandary. He’ll have unrequited blue balls. God is laughing.

    But you’re right, in the gyno-centric culture we live in, the only story worth telling is the woman’s.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 11:34 am CH

      i give this troll job a 4 out of 10. would not bang.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:32 pm Tilikum

      the “men” are already there. males….eh not so much.

      aint that a bitch.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:34 pm chi-town

      If I were 55 and could not get a woman as high as her mid 40s I’d just yank it. Under no circumstances at any age would I want to begin a life with a woman over 50 in any kind of intimate way. You are not competing with 20 year olds at all. If she can do better than a box of rocks , that’s something.

      I give this troll job 2/10.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:04 pm no

      Mr. Viagra wants see you in his office immediately.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:48 pm Matthew

      It’s called cohort-skipping, and it will save Western Civ.

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  4. on July 14, 2014 at 11:35 am Prof. Woland

    About 8 years ago when I was in my mid-40’s and before I remarried, I was having a torrid relationship with a very cute 22 year old Asian woman. We went away for the weekend to Mendocino which is a quiet weekend town filled with affluent middle age and older couples that are there on a romantic getaway. I distinctly remember going to a nice restaurant elegant restaurant ready to have a delicious meal and then run back to the hotel for balls deep sex. A wonderful evening as far as I am concerned. When I was there, I suddenly realized that my date was probably 25 years younger than the next youngest woman in the restaurant. I considered it quite normal, in fact desirable to be banging such a hot number but judging by the stares and non-stares I realized that not everybody was comfortable with situation. Most of the men, who were my age or older were trying very hard not to look at me because their wife’s were glaring at them. No one said or did anything but they did not have to. Their look said it all. We went back to the hotel and fucked for hours. Best meal of my life.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:39 pm pjay

      http://tinyurl.com/bravo-man-bravo

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:43 pm Nicole

      Having been the much younger woman, I can tell you enjoy it while it lasts. Erectile dysfunction is real, and you might not be one of the lucky 1/3.

      When or if that happens, if you plan to keep her, have a plan for getting her needs met when you can no longer take care of them. It’ll save you both a lot of heartache.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:38 pm DeNihilist

        nicole, when i was younger, i’d get a hardon that a dog couldn’t bite and a cat couldn’t scratch. why if i even tried to push down on it, my feet would lift off the floor.

        when i turned forty, same thing my lady. it became my parlour trick, leverage my body to the floating position by getting the woman to push down on my hard dick.

        well i just turned 56 last week, so thought it time to see how the old tommyknocker was doing. got the old lady to kneel in front of me and get me hard. i then placed both hands on the tip of me dick and pushed down. well to my amazement the little man did move a fraction of an inch before me feet rose into the air!

        hey nicole, do you think i may be getting stronger?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm Prof. Woland

        They are called children.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 10:37 pm nomad

        @Prof. Woland

        “They are called children.”

        the children will be taking care of her sexual needs? i know that’s not what you meant man but you need to think about what you just said.

        if you think a young sexually vital woman is going to be satisfied with taking care of your children when you aren’t banging her on the regular, you are sadly mistaken. if she has sexual needs, YOU need to be satisfying them or you’ll be paying the lawn boy overtime every week for servicing her hot little ass for you.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 11:23 am Nicole

        DeNihilist, if every man were so gifted for all ages, you would have a point.

        Alas, the majority are not…not even in their youth.

        Still, don’t kick yourself if one day you find it’s not holding up as well. If you’ve done things right, the memories will be enough to keep a good woman’s loyalty, regardless of what she does to amuse herself.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:52 pm Prof. Woland

        Nomad,

        I was talking about what the plan is for having her needs met. With many people, children are the end game. That was Heartiste’s point. At 59, the game is over for women. I had my last kid one month shy of my 51st birthday. My days are over too but at least I have something tangible for my efforts.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 12:13 pm nomad

        @ Prof. Woland

        I get what you mean about children being the end game. The problem is if you are an older guy and your days are over like you said, what do you do with a young wife whose days aren’t even close to being over yet?

        I think the point Nicole was making is that you’ll still have to satisfy that young wife or you’ll be looking at a lot of heartache and probably a situation where she’ll cheat or leave you for someone younger.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:51 pm david

      COTW

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 9:26 am cheesetrader

      Aaaaah – one of the hidden bennies of being the older man – all the envious looks and little comments you get.

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  5. on July 14, 2014 at 11:35 am David

    Sorry, I don’t buy it. Why was this guy dating this woman in the first place?

    It’s clear that men are having sexual problems, even after adjusting for the aging white population and diminished arousal power of aging women.

    Whether it’s the systematically declining T levels….
    https://mail.google.com/_/scs/mail-static/_/js/k=gmail.main.en.wQ13XoLqoRs.O/m=m_i,t,it/am=fEYcTv69v1Cs-Sx9Uu2_9737pNjI5-v9EQYAIewE6vxm_w_gekAflB8b/rt=h/d=1/rs=AItRSTPv5e3lj2gCUfMrRUo9PNmVmb9wNQ

    ….whether it’s the increase in T-pulverizing alcohol consumption….
    http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Testosterone_Beer.aspx

    ….or just all the damn porn….

    …..Men are having major sexual problems.

    To be sure, this is exacerbated by how aging women are less arousing than young girls (demonstrated in a billion clinical tests), and furthermore, women are having MAJOR physiological problems along with men (reaching menopause at ever-younger ages, obesity, etc.).

    But it’s a lie to pin all the sexlessness on women and aging. That’s bullshit.

    My Arab buddies always observe this mass sexlessness among us whites. They see it with the pure eyes of an alien race – how men don’t even talk to women. They wonder why, when they go to bars, there are hordes of beautiful women (verified: I know where they go) and yet the white men have no desire and instead stare up at ‘SportsCenter’ and a bunch of black NBA players for hours on end.

    If this (supposed) dude in the article was spending all this time with the bitch, then he should’ve fucked her. It was HIS fault, not hers, if he was taking her out but couldn’t fuck her. If he couldn’t get a boner around her, he had no business wasting her time. Full stop.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 11:37 am CH

      some unvarnished truths about the functioning of the sexual market are so serrated even men can’t handle them without protective gear.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:14 pm LP

        So if a woman is expired by 30, and revolting by 40+, why wouldn’t she focus on her career, hobbies, cats, her IVF/Co-parented kids, and friends? Isn’t this post one huge argument for the goals of feminism? I ask this sincerely, not as a troll.

        Women invest themselves in sex for relationships, or for financial gain/security. They don’t like sex. There wouldn’t be an entire industry focusing on how to “awaken” a woman’s sex drive if it were naturally occurring and men would not have to beg their wives for sex within marriage. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/oct/31/stephen-fry-sex-women-relationships-attitude

        The comments section on this post are dangerously close to approaching the truth.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:12 am Amy

        Lol, so a gay guy is an authority on female sexuality? Women do like sex, a lot. We’re just more selective about who we want it with, for obvious biological reasons. I don’t understand why men think otherwise. If your wife/gf isn’t interested in sex anymore, there’s a reason. It’s on her to figure it out.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 7:39 am Holden Caulfield

        @LP Since you say you’re being sincerely, I’ll give you the honest opinion.

        You say women don’t like sex? Correction: women don’t like sex with beta males. For most women, they beta male is all they have access to if they want commitment, which most women DO want. The women that are in the company of alpha males like sex very much.

        Feminists often don’t even have access to beta males, so they announce they don’t like sex to make up for the fact that they don’t have any access to sex with the men they are secretly attracted to.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:45 am LP

        @Amy I think sex is more of a practical matter for men which is why they still are okay to do their wives whenever she is up for it. For women, they lose interest in their husbands, sexually, overtime, especially when babies and hormonal changes come into the picture. Get back to me in 10 years when you’ve had a couple of screaming kids and have been with the same guy for years. Tell me how bad you want it then.

        @Holden Caulfield Having sex with an alpha is fully compatible with female’s low frequency, hypergamous sex drive, biologically. She has hot sex with the alpha, he impregnates her, and the species continues. They don’t co-habitat for the next 40 years arguing about what to watch on netflix. Obviously, I’m oversimplifying, but you get the point.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:06 pm Nicole

        Sorry guys, but a woman’s sex drive does decline after menopause. Almost half of women, long before that. It’s a combination of mental and physical changes.

        I was informed, after my first time catching a crazy at 43, this happens to pretty girls in their teens or 20’s. It causes a trauma that causes a shift that makes being wanted itself, a dangerous thing. I used to say, “It’s better to be wanted than to be had.” Now I’m like, “I wish all these creeps would just stay away from me.”

        Fortunately, I don’t have much longer for that.

        Basically, women who established a certain level of control of their emotions due to seeing the pain she could be signing up for by smiling at or being nice to anyone, don’t miss the lack of sex. It’s women who were coddled (either due to being pretty and high family status, or like me, having too many male protectors for a bad relationship to develop very far) who would actually miss sexual attention when it is gone.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 8:05 pm Reco

        @LP listen to what these guys are saying. I have my own anecdotal experience to verify this. I was a beta drone for most of my life and had many challenges with women. But after swallowing the red pill and actively gaming my wife for the past ten months I have gotten more and better and hotter sex that the first 19 years. And I am not pursuing her she is pursuing me.

        Now I can’t say this will maintain forever but it sure does not show any signs of slowing down. The industry to awaken women’s sex drive may want to look at referring married men to this site and others like it. But then no one would make any money that way.

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      • on July 17, 2014 at 12:42 pm Nicole

        Reco, I think this next step of actually manning up instead of new-manning up is the natural next step. Right now, the feminists are in a frenzy of pegging promo, and that’s about the limit. I don’t think guys can possibly be more feminized, and it isn’t working. Nobody is really getting what they want from it, despite the shrill cries of denial that anything is wrong while dudes are getting anal fissures and prolapse.

        Sooner or later, folks will have to turn things around just to get off.

        …but then maybe I am underestimating the stupidity.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:05 pm Steve Johnson

      She’s 59. She’s no longer really a woman in the sense of “acceptable to have sex with”. She’s still (sort of) got a vagina but that’s about it – she’s below a fleshlight.

      “If he couldn’t get a boner around her, he had no business wasting her time. Full stop.”

      Oh, that’s his job now? Maybe he liked her personality and wanted to spend time with her. No one owes someone sex, remember? Or does that only count when it’s a woman’s prerogative to not flirt give out her number then never return texts when the guy could have spent his time on a woman who actually was interested or to accept drinks and meals and gifts from guys she’s never let fuck her?

      Either women are equal or they’re not (they’re not) but they can’t expect to get the benefits of being equal (they get to decide everything about their own lives to maximize tingles) without the drawbacks (guys don’t have a duty to protect them).

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm PA

        She’s 59. She’s no longer really a woman in the sense of “acceptable to have sex with”.

        Agreed. There is a reason why men have a natural revulsion to and/or make laws against sex with females who are menopausal, children, related to the man in question, diseased, or obese. A 59-year old woman is not a sexual being anymore, particularly to a man who does not remember her young.

        One obscenity of advanced liberalism is the very circulation in the public sphere of the very notion of a woman of that age, and sex. At that point in life, at the very least in her public presentation of her person, she is supposed to be an asexal grandmother, matriarch, spinster, retired whore, what will you.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 5:50 pm oralcummings

        Is the color picture on the web site a picture of HER? Thats the real woman?? LOL! My God! I mean,come on,who’d want to fuck HER?? Really…fuck her? That old lady? Hey Granny wheres Ellie May? This old lady? Come on! Her pussy??? Whoa,just hold your horses. Her? Really?(OK sorry for the Family Guy shtick hee hee) But I mean it…I mean come on!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 12:08 pm Cadders

      I have no idea how old you are but IMO when you get to 50 you may have a different perspective.

      If you’ve lived even a slightly fulfilling life (read; doing interesting / unusual things, keeping in shape etc) you may find that women become something of a side dish. Fact is, freed from the raging hormones, boinking becomes just one of many fun uses of your time.

      It needs to be better than your other options.

      Women have a harder time of it as they age because they aren’t just competing against other women. They are competing against every fun thing a man likes to do.

      It takes effort to get hard for an older women. She has to be worth it.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 12:57 pm JCclimber

        I’ve been telling that to the young men that I interact with, that they should be doing the fun stuff with their guy friends and bonding with them. Very few modern women are delightful to spend time with if you aren’t going to be sexually involved with them at some point.

        Shrewish. Entitled. Opinionated ignorance. Solipsism.

        This man made a mistake in giving her the impression that she would be finally getting some manly pleasuring. In all likelihood, he was probably shocked to find out that finding someone attractive in personality didn’t translate into boner engorgement when intimate time arrived.

        He will probably be much more careful in the future.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm oralcummings

        So you lose your sex drive and your passion and thats a good thing?? I mean,come on..OK sorry.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:16 pm Glengarry

      “If he couldn’t get a boner around her, he had no business wasting her time. Full stop.”

      Wasting it compared to what? Twu wuv WK, forty years late?

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 6:42 pm DeNihilist

      uh dave, i never had a boner around my grandmother, but i loved talking to her.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 7:15 pm LP

      This comment deserves its own post.

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  6. on July 14, 2014 at 11:36 am Caramba

    I had the same reaction even with a 32 years old.Sleeping with a 59 years old is a fetish.No, thank you.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 11:59 am aint nuthin but a gangsta parrttyyyy

      +1 my oldest lay has been 32, never one for older girls but this one was older, okay skin and nice fake DDs, but her wrinkly hands! first thing i noticed lol

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:06 pm Sparks

        I’ve managed to make it to 37 without ever having to date a women over 23, current gal is 19, also spinning another plate (18). Won’t be able to do it forever though and I’m dreading what lies beyond in future years. Hopefully I’ll never have to go over early 30’s. Women go downhill fast after about 33.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:45 pm DeNihilist

        when i was 24 i was banging a 42 year old, never had kids. tight! was my record age til the old lady turned 43, 44, 45…..

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  7. on July 14, 2014 at 12:03 pm Plums Before Prunes | Manosphere.com

    […] Plums Before Prunes […]

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  8. on July 14, 2014 at 12:05 pm Bob Wallace

    All women should be told about Love Goggles and it’s best to get married when younger, and fuck their pathetic attempts at “career.”

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  9. on July 14, 2014 at 12:09 pm Steve H

    See, I knew there was a compassionate soul in you somewhere, beneath all the slings and barbs and documentation of land-speed cultural decline.

    Happily, not all western women are horrible cunts. Some are quite sweet and kind, in fact. And when they are, how does one have not the heart to go through with a date, or go through with a bang, even, when the aging/wrinkly/chubby woman in our presence has been so damn downright kind and enthusiastic in her demeanor towards us…

    My hunch is that lot of us here at this vaunted, evil MRA space would put anti-MRA/game critics to shame – not because we’re right and they’re wrong about all things SMP, but because of the genuine sympathy and empathy we are able to countenance for the same now-miserable post-wall women that squashed us like a bug with their stiletto heels in an almost-but-not-quite-forgotten yesteryear.

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  10. on July 14, 2014 at 12:18 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

    CH drawing inspiration from its acolytes, once again! Plums over prunes, baby! Ain’t no question ’bout it!

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  11. on July 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm teabagher

    “It’s hard out there for the older woman.”

    deservedly so. she fell for the feminist lies and now she has to pay the piper. she thought she could have it all; her carefree look at me selfie teen years, her college “experience”, her disgusting urban carousel ride, her legions of betas, her “career”, her dream wedding at 35, her fertility treatment kids at 40.

    only a woman would be stupid enough to believe such obvious bs.

    this is why 30’s women are so unpleasant these days. they know they are almost out of time. in their minds all the slutting they did with countless guys means they should now get the payoff. they put out and now it’s time to cash in. it’s all about them and they don’t differentiate between men and see the act as what counts (spreading legs is part of a business transaction), not who it was with. many discover they don’t even like piv that much and that they’d rather have stuff/travel/eat.

    damaged goods only worthy of pump and dump. if you’re looking for a wife you have to meet her in her teens and marry her before 24.

    [CH: no need for such bright lines in the sand. the general gist of it is enough: the younger your new wife, the better she’ll age (relative to same-age women) and the easier you’ll remember her as her pretty young self as you grow old with her.]

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm teabagher

      “no need for such bright lines in the sand.”

      if you’re going to grow old with her there are other things to consider besides her looks.

      every year you’re not her man is a year where someone else is. women are malleable, especially as teens, and the early forms she takes will stay imprinted forever. you may be able to undo some damage but not all. for LTR it’s best to be the one forming her. and the further she gets into her teens the more sexual partners she will have. not only is this disgusting but major memories being formed without you = less attachment to you = less motivation not to eat pray love divorce you and take your wealth.

      waiting into late 20’s to marry is also dangerous. unless you’re firmly in control, the more weddings she attends/sees on social media the more she will expect. the earlier you get her the more likely she’ll be happy to go to the courthouse. the modern american wedding is a horror show and virtually no man goes through the process without being totally emasculated. not the best foot to start a marriage on as once she sees that you can be manipulated over something as trivial as a party she will lose respect for you and continue to push to find your limits, only now she has the force of the legal system family court behind her.

      your wife might be super tight and hot into her 30’s but if you hate her you’re going to get sick of fucking her. women are projects and should be taken seriously as such. they require maintenance. they require investments of time. if you’re not leading her/shaping her the way you want her someone else (media, girlfriends) will be.

      getting married these days is insane and if you’re going to do it you have to stack the deck in your favor. she won’t get chubby if you tell her what to cook and teach her how. she won’t get soft and lumpy if you teach her how to train. she won’t get leathery if you keep her out of the sun. she won’t annoy you if you establish expectations early and punish swiftly. you have to take charge in every area of your lives. always be leading.

      the more time she makes her own decisions before you get to her the worse off you will be. she needs to believe that life will cease to exist if she wasn’t with you. most husbands these days are accessories, just another thing/step in HER life story. if it’s going to work she needs to worship you like a god and religion only works if it’s introduced early on.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:34 pm Tim

        Makes me utterly relieved I have no urge to marry, nor interest in marriage.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:22 pm Glengarry

        Teabagher, agreed. Women are, as we know, depreciating assets.

        Guys, if you want to commit, please do so responsibly.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:13 pm david

        I am a 23 year old man. This is the best thing I have read all day. All I can say sitting here in my small apartment. Well, Im fucked. Your fucked, Im fucked. Shes already fucked, its all just Fucked. Im serious Im just going to be MGTOW. Chaise and catch tail when I can, chase my goals.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 11:28 pm Will

        If you are focused on your mission and main girl….it shouldn’t be about “teaching her” and leading her to cook for you and do shit like that…

        Shouldn’t she be initiating all of that?

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  12. on July 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm elmer

    “Barbie Doll on acid”. Now that sounds like fun. Time to get out the body paints and magik markers.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:11 pm Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh… yeah, I wasn’t sure what to make of an old prune describing herself as Barbie on acid…

      Your take on it is as good as any.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:27 pm Rick250

        Old prune: “I felt like a Barbie doll on acid”

        Yoda: “Looking not like one…that is why you failed”

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:02 pm Rick250

        Twisted by the Hivemind, Old Prune has become. The society you inherited, gone it is.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 3:35 am Lucius Somesuch

        “Always: Like a Girl, You Know Who in media say. Like Barbie on acid drop now, for me you will, you will.”

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:02 pm no

      glow in the dark nipples and and landing strip

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  13. on July 14, 2014 at 12:29 pm Not The Real Me

    > “2010 Hewitt cabernet”

    Fucking A. Parker 96 points. Heartiste moving up in the world.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:27 pm teabagher

      “Parker 96 points.”

      points don’t mean anything, especially from old dudes with wasted oak drenched palates.

      wine can be an awesome thing to share with a worthy woman. women often have very sensitive palates and can be taught to appreciate the subtle nuances of fine offerings. because of the link to her sense of smell it can be a deeply emotional experience for her and one she will remember forever.

      taste your way through the regions/styles and find what you like. don’t listen to the so called experts. they have agendas.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:01 pm lilith bride of lucifer

        anti flavor wine elite afwe swallowed the red pill? how did it taste? 96 pts?

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  14. on July 14, 2014 at 12:41 pm Guillaume Durocher

    Robin Thicke has just finished “writing and releasing of an album begging Paula Patton to take him back.” It’s called “Paula” and sold 530 albums in the UK first week.

    Last year, infamously sexist “Blurred Lines” had sold 177,000 (in just the UK, just the first week). http://www.avclub.com/article/robin-thicke-managed-sell-530-copies-his-new-album-206713

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:28 pm Mel Gibson

      He still has high SMV built up from all of that Blurred Lines shit, but no doubt his pathetic beta ways have turned off women. Paula Patton is probably revolted by his pussy antics.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:38 pm Ted Cunterblast

      That dude is still around?! I loved Growing Pains back in the day.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm oralcummings

        Ha ha ha to Ted Cunterblast. Some beta faggot in the NYT takes a swipe at Thicke. (Robin not Alan) I didnt realize that Thicke was a target for the femcunts. Oh I forgot–hes WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway heres the fag: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/03/arts/music/robin-thicke-hears-the-vultures-tweet.html

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  15. on July 14, 2014 at 12:44 pm Waffles

    plums. prunes. sour grapes.

    http://gawker.com/conor-obersts-rape-accuser-says-she-made-it-all-up-1604782821

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  16. on July 14, 2014 at 12:49 pm whorefinder

    PA, since when does your mom write articles on HuffPo?????

    lol. rape!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:12 pm Arbiter

      Wow, whorefinder. You’re really obsessed with PA. Is it because he called you out on supporting the neocon wars and mass immigration? He was perfectly right in doing so; by supporting or having supported such things you have contributed in your way to the death of a good people on behalf of the Tribe. And then when he calls you on this you try to muddy the waters by lying and calling him a leftist, for being anti-neocon. Hoping to fool any readers. That you don’t admit this is crap.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:20 pm whorefinder

        lmao. don’t support mass immigration (close the borders and Operation Wetback) and I only support salt-the-earth bombings-and-walk-away (like Heartiste). And, of course, not jewish—genetically, ethnically or religiously.

        Nice try with the lies, PA’s sockpuppet.

        Rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:16 pm Tilikum

        no such thing as good people.

        just people. and now some of them are dead. meh.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:29 pm PA

      If you only knew wolfowitzfinder’s sordid commenting past on a blog that was recently closed. There is a reason I call him that.

      Executive summary: he viciously and relentlessly attacked a commenter there named something like “Kyle” for being a “leftie.” Kyle had a no-kid-gloves style (he gave me shit a few times) and was a well-read paleocon with likely Mensa-level IQ. Like me, he was a right wing populist. At one point the discussion at the now-closed blog was about sellout corporations that outsource jobs, lobby for immigration and HB1 visas, lay off American workers, and then give their executives huge bonuses.

      Wolfowitzfinder blew a gasket and called Kyle a leftie for being “anti freedom.” And. he. would. not. rest. his. little. reptilian. snout. whenever Kyle commented, always circling back to calling Kyle a leftie.

      Wolfie and I were cool at that point still, but I stepped in on Kyle’s side of things, and then I became a leftie as well.

      Over time. Wolfowitzfinder went relentlessly on as a GOP shill, arguing for military invasions in the Middle East and immigration (under the principle of corporate freedom). And I destroyed him on every occasion we clashed.

      He then soured on the blogger (whom he calls “Piggy”) of that now-closed site, and left in a huff. That blogger, might I add, is very highly respected by CH and pretty much all major bloggers in this corner of the alt-Right.

      Furthermore, here at CH a few weeks ago, Wolfiebitch said that (as best as I recall verbatim) “Americans are not patriotic enough to die in foreign wars.” He also said that it’s good that WHite girls mix with other races (except blacks.)

      Wolfowitzfinder is best understood as part of the Jewish shock-jock tradition. Funny in some subjects, but best kept at arms length. Our very own mini-Howard Stern. Good for a laugh or two, useful in attacking certain liberal shibboleths, but not the kind of guy you’d want to know personally.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:39 pm whorefinder

        lol. Piggy’s squealer pees all over himself.

        Now, I once was very pro-open borders,tis true. Now I am not; thank Steve Sailer for that. I’ve been saying close them up/operation wetback for a while now, he knows it, he’s just lying.

        As for “neocon wars”, there are only two ways to victory in wars: conquest+colonization+wiping out old culture w/ no apology (aka Manifest Destiny) or salt-the-earth, destroy completely, leave it a pile of ash and rubble quickly.

        Nation building doesn’t work, period. But piggy’s squealer is still trying to lie and claim Afghanistan had no righteous basis–because you, know, Bush caused 9/11 (PA, like a good conspiracy theorist, will never give a straight falsifiable theory, because that would ruin innuendo and force him to stand by it).

        Now, why Gamma-commie is obsessed with calling me jewish is hilarious, since he has no evidence and I am not; I merely call him out on his 9/11 trooferism, and he wilts. What I find hilarious is that this paranoid delusional conspiracy-mongering (in the best commie tradition) little liar still thinks he can lie his way out of anything.

        it’s best to think of him as what he is: a gamma-commie determined to spread false information (disinformation, in his KGB terms) in the manosphere. He even praised the Soviet union at one point, unironically. Total plant.

        Gamma-commie rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 5:55 pm Matthew

        whorefinder, you’re losing. Nine out of ten dentists wouldn’t rape you. Give it up already.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:04 pm oralcummings

        Thank you. Now I understand. WF is a fake.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm Greg Eliot

        This just in: the tenth dentist caved.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:30 pm Pluviophile

        whorefinder,

        I think you’re enjoying the abuse from PA.

        sadomasochism rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 11:40 pm gunslingergregi

        Now, I once was very pro-open borders,tis true. Now I am not; ””””””

        it must be a banner day he admitted it

        I did see a red moon today in real

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  17. on July 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm Mike

    She’s just shooting too high. I think there are plenty of men – even younger men – who would be glad of a 60-yo with a discernably female form. (It’s hard to figure out Dave though: he’s sending mixed signals about whether he’s got options. If he does, why try to make this work? If not, he’s got no finesse. He could have had her hide her body if he’d done it slowly, smoothly.)

    My situation is somewhat like Dave’s. I’m 56, divorced at 53. I had a two-year post-divorce fling with a 40-yo who’s a hard (age-adjusted) HB8.5+, almost a HB10 for me because she was exactly my type: a petite pale blonde with a shapely ass and smallish tits, soft-spoken, and a great cook. Her stomach is loose from having two kids but it’s still flat and she’s not otherwise sagging. Her skin is near perfect (for my tastes): looks like she’s never been out in the sun. Since she dumped me (mostly for being beta I think; I found the RP while trying to understand what had happened), I’ve been out with several women about my own age. I don’t let things get as far as Dave did, I just can’t do it. I can’t consistently pull younger women online so I gotta step up the IRL game, looks like. Prunes just aren’t an option.

    And, lady: OK, fine, you’re beautiful. You have every right to think that. And every man with options has the right to disagree. Do you hear me bitching that 19-yo hotties aren’t swooning over my thinning hair and 10 extra pounds? Get busy being equal.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:46 pm Zombie Shane

      > “thinning hair and 10 extra pounds”

      Starve yourself for a month, start lifting weights, and do situps if your lower back can still take the strain [if not, then do leg lifts, preferably off of the end of a bench or from the top of a staircase]. Then when you’re starting to get ripped, get a crewcut. Recipe for a NEW MAN.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:21 pm teabagher

        “do situps if your lower back can still take the strain”

        no. plank, weighted burpees, mountain climbers, compound movements. sit ups are for fags in the 80s.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:43 pm Montgomery Draxel (@MDraxel)

        Fill a keg up with the organs of your beta male foes. Do overhead squats with it as you belt out German drinking songs.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:20 pm Arbiter

        Situps really aren’t good for your back, and they actually don’t do much good for the stomach. Lifting weights is good advice though. Squats, deadlifts etc work stomach and other areas well enough.

        No need to starve yourself: just eat meat, fish, chicken, eggs and vegetables. One egg is only 78 calories, so you can eat a lot of eggs before you reach your daily calorie needs. Chicken is also great for losing weight. Stay away from wheat, which damages the skin and which just turns to blood sugar and is quickly stored away in fat cells by the insulin, making you hungry again after just a few hours. The paleo diet is the way to go – calorie deficiency without being hungry. I know, I lost fourteen pounds that way.

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  18. on July 14, 2014 at 1:01 pm Amy

    I don’t blame him at all for feeling the way he does, but what’s the point of all that cruelty? She can’t do anything about her age. He could have said he wasn’t attracted to her at left it at that.

    I might reject a guy for being short but I’m not going to TELL him that. It’s pointless, he can’t change it. Or worse, penis size. Why would you hurt someone’s feelings over a physical attribute they can’t do anything about?

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:04 pm CH

      it sounds like he wanted her in his life as an asexual companion, so that would explain why he felt it necessary to express his feelings about his lack of interest in sex with her.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:15 pm Amy

        Yes, he was looking for a cuddle buddy.

        I have to say, if you want to completely devastate a woman, telling her she’s sexually repulsive is probably the best way to do it.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 1:28 pm Zombie Shane

        > “telling her she’s sexually repulsive is probably the best way to do it”

        SO START PUSHING SOME BUNS OUT OF YOUR OVEN BEFORE YOU HIT THE WALL AND BECOME SEXUALLY REPULSIVE!!!!! Frigging idiot.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:02 pm Goose

        @Zombie Shane

        I agree with you to some extent. She should be settling down young if she wants children but what is her motivation for doing that when every guy on here says he is disgusted by older women and they don’t believe in marriage goggles. Sounds like they’ll be throwing her away for a younger hotter girl as soon as she hits the wall.

        She’s supposed to give up the best years of her life and produce children for a man who is going to just throw her away? I can see why women aren’t lining up to get locked down young anymore. Sounds like men are just as disloyal as they claim women to be.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:06 pm APL

        Amy: “if you want to completely devastate a woman,”

        Which most men don’t, at least at the begining of the relationship.

        Sometimes, it’s best not to ask questions.

        I bet the conversation, that she didn’t relate went along these lines.

        SHE: What’s the matter with you, you can’t get it up?

        HE: waffle waffle evasion.

        SHE: Yea, but what’s the matter with you, you can’t get it up?

        HE: platitude platitude platitude.

        SHE: There is something wrong with you, you aren’t a real man.

        HE: Bam!! Truth that she can’t deal with.

        SHE: Hamster goes Apeshit in print.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:14 pm Zombie Shane

        > “throwing her away for a younger hotter girl as soon as she hits the wall.”

        If she does it my way, then at least she’ll have some progeny – someone to cry at her funeral – someone to make sure that her corpse doesn’t go undiscovered for six months [and when it is finally found it has been stripped to the bone by all the hungry cats in her apartment].

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:27 pm Amy

        Look, just for the record, no one has to convince me that it’s better to marry young and have children young. Okay? I get it. I agree. And just because I post here doesn’t mean I’m not moving toward that already. Like everyone else, I have a life outside of here.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:59 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Like everyone else, I have a life outside of here.”

        You haven’t experienced “life” until you become a mother. Quite frankly, what you are experiencing right now [to the extent that you are fornicating purposelessly] is “unlife”, which is to say, DEATH. Push some buns out of your oven and then get back to me about whether you really understood the meaning of “life” before you started nursing colicky babies each and every morning at 3AM.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm Zombie Shane

        At 11PM. And 1AM. And 3AM. And 5AM.

        Night after night after night with no end in sight.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:35 pm Arbiter

        SO START PUSHING SOME BUNS OUT OF YOUR OVEN BEFORE YOU HIT THE WALL AND BECOME SEXUALLY REPULSIVE!!!!! Frigging idiot.

        What about men, Zombie Shane? It takes both a man and a woman to have children. Why do you place the demand for children so much heavier on female commentators? As if only women are to blame if few children are made. I can tell you, I have seen that’s what older men without a wife or girlfriend do as a way to get the upper hand online. A way to get back at the women.

        Whites don’t need larger numbers, there are more Whites alive today than ever before in history. We need land to ourselves. We can get that only by convincing the Whites alive today. If we can do that, we can beat people three times our numbers or more. If we can’t do that, then new brainwashed people being born won’t help us. So you can stop putting the focus on having more children and inserting that in every conversation.

        Outbreeding non-Whites when there are more than six billion of them and the borders are open? That’s a non-sensical strategy. It’s about minds and organization. Are you in an organization? Or do you only talk online?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:49 pm anonymous does not forgive

        >Sounds like they’ll be throwing her away for a younger hotter girl as soon as she hits the wall.

        Men don’t work like that. The man won’t throw you away, he’ll just have you AND the younger hotter girl.

        Men don’t dismiss women from their harem for getting old. They may not take them to bed anymore, but if the older woman is useful in other ways she can be kept around to mentor her junior sister-wives

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm Zombie Shane

        > “What about men, Zombie Shane?”

        Men don’t hit the wall the way that Amy is about to hit it. She needs to seize a good man for herself and start pushing out his babies long before he starts to see her as SEXUALLY REPULSIVE.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 11:31 pm Will

        Haha omg zombie Shane mix it up with the buns thing

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 11:33 pm Will

        But I get what your saying

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:08 pm Greg Eliot

      Amy, you’re a good girl… and absolutely right, there’s no reason to go into the lurid details of why he’s not attracted.

      Even when people are young, sometimes the “chemistry” just isn’t there… and that’s all that needs be said… I think both sexes can understand it, and only be moderately disappointed rather than emotionally devastated.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:54 pm chi-town

        The only one who made public the lurid details is she. We also are only getting her side of the story, which I am sure is getting much more attention due to his “insensitivity”. She is a writer , who know has something more to write about…

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:28 pm whorefinder

      sounds like he was shamed by some feminists into “dating his age.” Then, when he did so, he assumed that a feminist would appreciate frank sexual talk about likes and dislikes. I’m willing to bet “Dave” has had lots of feminists in bed tell him his penis is too small or his manboobs too flabby, and he just rolled with it and asked if new positions would help. He expected quid pro quo. Silly beta.

      And the feminist double standards continue.

      Poor old shriveled broad.

      Nah, not really. she deserves her misery.

      Feminist rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:56 pm Nicole

        Sign of the apocalypse, I agree with whore.

        These situations don’t just appear out of nowhere. Why is this woman chasing a casual dick in her 50’s? What was she doing up to that time?

        Why the hell was this guy taking a woman he’d never seen naked on trips?

        What delusions both of them were likely wrapped up in to create this horrible scenario?

        Who doesn’t see her body becoming less attractive with age, and filter prospects accordingly, if she has the bad luck to still be in or be re-entering the market?

        Sure, he could have been gentler, but if he was practically emotionally female, and damaged, why would he?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:13 pm corvinus

        sounds like he was shamed by some feminists into “dating his age.”

        Not in this case — he said he usually dated younger women — but there definitely is lots of social pressure for men to date their age.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:22 pm whorefinder

        No, I disagree. His statement that he was “spoiled” by younger women and then found this one indicates a change for some reason—probably some feminazi pulled him aside and lectured him on dating women his “own age” when she saw him happily cavorting with younger meat. Guilt, mostly.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:05 pm corvinus

        Well, if he had said he was “spoiled” by younger women to the general public, I’d agree with you, but here it looks like he’s trying to pull himself away from a woman he was getting intimate with, and he used the “spoiled” term to remove at least some of the blame and hurt feelings from himself to younger women.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 11:24 pm whorefinder

        Eh, I’m not sure I agree with your reading; I feel like he was finally owning up to his own desires for younger flesh after being convinced such desires were “wrong” by the feminist imperative.

        No matter, though, since we must remember this is her recounting of the tale, which, unfortunately, will thus contain so many lies and half-truths that we may never know what he actually said, only what she wants us to believe for the sake of her own hamster.

        Sad truth rape.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:37 am Trainspotter

        Nicole: “Sign of the apocalypse, I agree with whore.”

        Sign of the double-secret apocalypse, I agree with Nicole. It’s sort of like the feud between Mia Farrow and Woody Allen – both are so screwed up that it’s impossible to discern the truth of the matter, or to wholly sympathize with either party.

        Same with the aging cuddlebugs at issue here. There are many layers of wrong in this particular scenario, and you do a decent job of asking pertinent questions to illustrate that.

        But don’t get any ideas, Nicole. White lands are for whites only.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 10:19 am BuenaVista

        On the one hand (assuming the story is accurate, which I doubt), she pretends they are a longstanding “couple” so they hop into bed nude.

        Newsflash: mature people are more attractive if somewhat decorated. Only a delusional, self-involved harpy would demand that a man find her visually equivalent to a woman half her age. Parisiennes spend 30 percent of their income on lingerie for a reason.

        On the other hand, he is honest to a fault once subjected to her interrogation (dumb, but he probably thinks we’re all supposed to “share”). She wants to hang with him, but can’t be bothered with his extremely modest suggestions to dress-for-sexual-success.

        I don’t believe this story, it too perfectly complies with her No Man Is Good Enough for Special Me! soapbox, but it does properly illustrate that she’s not looking for an agentic man, but an accessory-cum-psychological prop.

        Like any other woman, she wants to be fucked ceaselessly and well, just by someone out of her league (despite his gamma nature).

        My personal bet is that they had sex until the guy said, “This really isn’t working for me” (self-centered women are lousy lovers, and old self-centered women … have separate rooms) and she had to repaint the scene to recast herself as a socio-sexual heroine.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 1:17 am Nicole

        @Trainspotter, how ever a people choose to run their nation is that people’s business. Just don’t cry when the consequences of going too far to alienate others means that your slave class is you, and your elite have an easier time of manipulating you because of a lack of variation.

        There’s a balance between opening the floodgates to any and all nonsense, and shagging your sheep and maybe your sister until you can marry according to whatever strict rules the society imposes.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:55 pm cynthia

      It is truly sad. If there’s ever an age women need to know this kind of information – ie, how men are view them in their late fifties and on up – it should be in the teens/20s, so she can take steps to avoid this kind of heart break. Because you’re right, there’s nothing she can do.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:01 pm Sparks

        Agreed. But most women in their teens/20’s won’t listen to that advice because to them the 50’s are like ‘so far off in the future’ it doesn’t matter. They just wanna party and be with the ‘hawt young guys’ and think that when they do reach middle age there will be handsome old guys like Liam Neeson waiting to marry them. They’re in for a shock…

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 5:02 pm GasButtox

        cynthiabuttox,

        My buttox are blasting out fast, whippy, incendiary projectiles of gas.

        Goodness, Gracious, Great Balls of Fire!

        After that, it will be your honor and beatification to….

        …..Detox my Buttox.

        -GB

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 6:25 pm oralcummings

      Ok a mixed bag here. Amy would never tell a guy she rejected him for his dick being too small,buuuuuut…apparently she rejects guys for their dick being too small!

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:27 am Amy

        I’ve personally never done that, but I’m sure it happens. You missed the point. Women AND men can’t really be faulted for their sexual preferences. It is what it is. They CAN be faulted for how they express those preferences. There’s no need to be cruel about it. That’s all I’m saying.

        I’d have the same reaction if a guy wrote this story about a woman who rejected him for being short, bald, and having a small penis, all of which she explained to him in mocking detail. Of course most people wouldn’t give that guy a fraction of the sympathy this woman is getting, I know that and it is definitely unfair.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 10:27 am MZ

        “I’d have the same reaction if a guy wrote this story about a woman who rejected him for being short, bald, and having a small penis, all of which she explained to him in mocking detail…”

        —————————————————

        That’s bullshit. This woman wrote this article strictly for attention and validation from other feminist hags. And to shame the guy, like this line at the end of her pity party:

        “I hugged myself close. I said thank you to God for the gift of my body and my life. And I said thank you to a sad man named Dave for reminding me of how precious it all is.”

        To your credit though, if a guy did write this he’d get no sympathy and be mocked, as he should be.

        His words were harsh, however she could have done her introspection in private rather than on the WWW for the whole world see but that doesn’t pay as well.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 11:09 am Greg Eliot

        I’m not going to fault a woman for rejecting a man because his dick is too small…

        I’ve rejected a lass or two whose breasts didn’t “measure up”, as it were, in size and shape.

        Can’t fight chemistry… and an ltr is difficult enough, so all physical cylinders have to be hitting from the get-go.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 6:13 am Trainspotter

      Amy: “I don’t blame him at all for feeling the way he does, but what’s the point of all that cruelty? She can’t do anything about her age. He could have said he wasn’t attracted to her at left it at that.”

      Yeah, these are my thoughts as well. There is something off about this guy, something aspergery.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 8:23 am The Burninator

        I strongly suspect he doesn’t exist at all and that this writer is simply stirring the feminist pot of perpetual rage. My guess is that she had a thing for some guy who didn’t even notice she existed and she realized she wasn’t attractive. Rather than facing up to harsh reality she instead had to hamster up a story and place it in public to generate the appropriate amount of “You’re so beautiful!” to make herself feel better.

        Just a hunch. No man talks the way he talked to her, it sounded completely scripted, such as a budding Hamster Shakespeare would write.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:24 am Trainspotter

        You may well be right. If we take the woman at her word, the guy comes across as an aspergery weirdo. More likely, she fabricated the story in whole or in part. At the very least, she probably leaves out important context, like for instance putting the guy on the defensive.

        In a culture as screwed up as this one, who knows?

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  19. on July 14, 2014 at 1:15 pm tspark156

    This is presenting itself in a timely way in my case. There is a divorcee who works in the reception department and has cause to be in the Sensor suite quite often she gets near me every time she can, and to be fair is reasonably trim and was clearly quite a looker in the past. The upper arm long head has already achieved that jelly like consistency and no amount of slap and hair dye can hide the tragic signs of prime long past. It is tragic in every way but there is no drug strong enough, an just not enough alcohol in the world to provide the beer goggles required to make me choose this woman over one of her younger counterparts, even if they are not as hot as she once was.

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  20. on July 14, 2014 at 1:44 pm English Dude

    Hahahahahahaha. Oh my heart bleeds.

    Men (who aren’t born perfect) throughout most of their lives have to put up with a shitload of “sorry you’re too short / too thin / too fat / not wealthy enough / not funny enough / no piercings / no tattoos / don’t have blue eyes / blahblahblah”. Unless they put a shit-ton of effort in and improve themselves, (along with learning game).

    Soon as women lose their natural advantages (well, maybe they have to “work” in the form of eating well and exercising a bit), and suddenly become not good enough, it’s all boo hoo the man is so mean for not accepting her as she is…

    The only way it would have been better is if the guy had said, “I really like you as a friend though! We could still hang out some time”. heh.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:46 pm English Dude

      Consequently at least the effort men put into improving themselves, gives something to back themselves up with in later life.

      Women who rely on their looks they were bestowed with all their lives put in 0 effort, and have nothing. Soon as their looks go, there’s nothing left.

      And who’s fault is that. Karma is a bitch.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 1:50 pm MZ

      “I really like you as a friend though! We could still hang out some time”

      That’s great, she could be his alpha female orbiter!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:00 pm CH

      women should understand that some of this schadenfreude expressed by men who have had a tough go of it is the natural psychological consequence of biological realities, particularly greater male reproductive expendability. during women’s prime nubility years, the vast majority of men will NEVER be as reproductively valuable as the average woman. this intrinsic SMV value skew leaves a lot of men out in the cold to nurse their omega pain, and when the tables are turned some former and current cast-offs will clumsily and vengefully delight in the spectacle of women enduring a similar invisibility.

      this isn’t to argue the rightness or wrongness of these feelings. it is instead to explain the cause of them to confused onlookers, and to impress upon the gathered the futility of expecting that this darker mien of human nature will ever change.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:17 pm English Dude

        Meh, I don’t think I’d personally enjoy making someone feel shit just for the sake of it. Wasted effort.

        However I do have a fantastic laugh at how much women whine when the tables are turned, and suddenly men are the meanest, most unfair creatures and devil incarnate, when the blokes would have had to put up with such their entire lives, until they began putting in effort to improve.

        These women put no such effort in to improve themselves, and when their looks drop, they have nothing to back it up. No use wailing, tis their own bloody faults. Karma.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:33 pm Amy

        “These women put no such effort in to improve themselves, and when their looks drop, they have nothing to back it up. No use wailing, tis their own bloody faults. Karma.”

        How do you know that? She could’ve put in all the effort in the world, and she’d still have the skin of a 59 year old.

        I don’t think the guy was unfair for not finding her attractive, I think he was unnecessarily cruel in expressing it. Although I’m not sure he realized it.

        [CH: it’s possible he’s a sperg with no social finesse. it’s also possible he never said any of those cruel things to her and she put the words in his mouth to give form to the unpleasant feeling of unspoken rejection she suffered from him.]

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:06 pm English Dude

        So would you prefer he’d have led her on? Especially with the “I really like you as a friend though!” sorta stuff.

        May have cut to the bone a bit with the form of expression (if true), but may have thought it would be better than letting her live a life of more lies, (as a lot of guys end up doing).

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:45 pm Amy

        He should have just said the sexual attraction wasn’t there. That’s honest enough. (Point taken that he may have done that initially, only to be badgered into the brutal specifics.)

        Of course she’d still feel hurt and rejected, but that’s life. Happens to all of us.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm loleczek

        this “it’s also possible he never said any of those cruel things to her and she put the words in his mouth to give form to the unpleasant feeling of unspoken rejection she suffered from him.”

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:46 pm blindman

        beautifully put.

        i hope you will consider expanding on this in a future post. insights like this are what keep me reading. thanks CH.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 6:49 am Trainspotter

      English Dude: “The only way it would have been better is if the guy had said, “I really like you as a friend though! We could still hang out some time”. heh.”

      Ha! You’re a black-hearted rogue, English Dude. But it really is amazing that so many women can’t put two and two together. Young hotties get vastly disproportionate male attention – with the operative word being disproportionate. It’s disproportionate at the expense of someone, namely older women. Yet they are shocked, shocked when they find themselves splattered across the Wall and men are no longer interested, aside from lesser betas, omegas and perhaps the occasional alcohol addled lounge lizard.

      I guess women really do suck at math.

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  21. on July 14, 2014 at 1:52 pm Tim

    I wonder how many children Zombie Shane himself has fathered.

    My guess: None. Zero. Nowt. Sweet FA.

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  22. on July 14, 2014 at 2:07 pm Crusader Corim

    There is one critical way that a woman can make herself still beautiful when she hits this wall. That is to marry the man she slept with when she was a gorgeous 20-something. My dad still swears my mom is the most beautiful woman in the world, because he still sees the 20-year old he married.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:07 pm chi-town

      Even when you get a dog as a puppy, you just can’t think of it as just another old dog. Women are the most vain of all who obsess over the most fleeting beauty of all , that of their own infants. Think there is a difference between adopting a 15 year old vs one raised from a an infant? Of course. Its a natural adaptation to maintain an investment.

      50+ year old women seeking new mates and expecting much of anything are simply idiots. There is no gentle way to put it. And even if she were seeking a new mate, a 55 year old man is trying to rob the cradle in the sexual market place. She would be lucky to get a 70+ or a dumpy 60 something. There is nothing adaptive for males that grow attachments to strange, post menopausal women. She is a wrinkled, horse faced buffoon who has lived long enough to have benefited from the repeated warnings of not getting you shit together when you were desirable.

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  23. on July 14, 2014 at 2:13 pm Mitch Cumstein

    While the guy is right (sorry, 59-year-olds), I’m sorry: he is weirder than the lady in this story. If I could ask him one question, it’s this…what are you doing there?

    Maybe it’s companionship. If that’s what he wants, he should either get a dog or hang out with his buddies. If he doesn’t have that option and that foundation built by the time he’s 55, what kind of man is he?

    He should be hanging around with women 30-40 years old. Younger if he can get it. He can kiss them and if he wants sex, take it.

    “Your body is disgusting to me.” No shit, man. The graying hair, loose skin, liver spots, and wrinkly hands weren’t an indication? But you’re still laying there naked and kissing her.

    A man who can tell an older woman she’s physically repulsive, while still laying there naked and showing any intimacy, holds a distinct place in time. Like being the world’s tallest midget.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 9:42 am Trainspotter

      Mitch: “A man who can tell an older woman she’s physically repulsive, while still laying there naked and showing any intimacy, holds a distinct place in time. Like being the world’s tallest midget.”

      LOL! Quite true. Man, what a country that our ancestors fought and bled for.

      But I have to say, this comment thread has more than its share of hilarious shivs. Of course, with the lunacy that this cesspool of a culture offers, the material practically writes itself.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 10:01 am Mark

      I agree that the guy should be hanging out with his male buddies if he just wants company. She isn’t being realistic, though, being 59 and trying to date guys younger than her. I’m in my fifties and have older women show an interest in me but I can become involved with women ten years younger than me. Older women can’t sexually compete with that so I don’t why they try. A 59 year old woman should be looking at men in the 65-70 age range. Those guys would actually be interested in her. I see a lot of women in their fifties with no guy in their life at all because they have unrealistic expectations of who they can get. The female writer of this article falls in this category and is oblivious that she falls in this category.

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  24. on July 14, 2014 at 2:14 pm Knowbody

    Solipsism is a motherfucker with this one. In her younger, tighter, ten pounds lighter days she chased older. Now she herself is old and can’t fathom why an older man would prefer a younger woman. (Yea yea, may not be HER path earlier but consider she is a figurehead for the generation of girls that are now following this path as the norm)

    Rather…he’s just vicious. Spin whatever delusion to keep that ego intact ya old bag.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 10:18 am Charlie Don't Surf

      Exactly.

      Stare into that mirror long enough – and like a phoenix rising from the ashes – your ego will magically transform the ravages of time into something akin to war medals.

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  25. on July 14, 2014 at 2:15 pm John

    I swear, when I read the headline to that story on HuffPost, I laughed my ass off! Funniest thing I read in the last month. Why in the name of whatever deity you proscribe to would anyone think any 55 year old man would be attracted to a wrinkly old prune? Men age like wine, women like milk. Time is a cruel mistress. Deal with it. That’s what lesbianism is for.

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  26. on July 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm Kate

    “My smile dropped faster than an unsupported witch’s teat.”
    Yegads! Rawrf!

    Two words for this lady: spray tan! How does what is essentially full body make up Not help? Just don’t go full Loompa. Never go full Loompa.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm Greg Eliot

      One word: spackling.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:24 pm Kate

        Check this out: http://www.vampyvarnish.com/2011/05/laura-gellar-spackle-tinted-makeupup-primer-swatches-photos-review

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 2:45 pm Ted Cunterblast

        Stucco.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:09 pm Greg Eliot

        Damn, I was talking about the stuff you get at Home Depot.

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  27. on July 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm Greg Eliot

    Plums Before Prunes

    And prunes before raisins. 😉

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  28. on July 14, 2014 at 2:16 pm K

    the real problem is that all of us are just staying alive way too long. unless you are in a happy relationship with someone/yourself… desperately trying to relive the glory days with each passing day gets sadder for everyone involved.

    seeing a man past his prime (mid 50s and up) hitting on a woman in her prime is equally painful to observe. and should you successfully nab one in said scenario, then don’t be naive about why it worked; ie. your money/connections/celebrity/etc. she’ll give you her body and hope you die quickly 🙂

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:33 pm midnight toker

      ain’t that the truth

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:34 pm Mitch Cumstein

      Because a younger man’s money/connections/celebrity aren’t taken into consideration by women?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:11 pm midnight toker

        Sure they are. But raw sexual attraction to a mate who is at prime reproductive age is a powerful thing as you know. Women respond to that pull as much as men do.
        So an older man is at a disadvantage because all he has left is his money/connections/celebrity. Who wants to be loved only for that? Men want to be desired for more than material wealth, don’t they?

        The hoping you’ll die quickly part is harsh but there is some truth to that too. Women are willing to settle for someone a little less than their ideal if they think they’ll get enough benefit from it, children, monetary reward, etc. AND there is a light at the end of the tunnel ie: you kicking the bucket while they still have a few years left in them to recoup some of the lost time they spent with you.

        That may sound heartless but all relationships are transactions. Men assess potential ROI as much as women do, maybe more. They’ll put up with a lot from a dimwitted young girl who has questionable personality and treats them badly as long as she has a rocking body and can carry a baby.

        None of us have unlimited options. We only have choices so sometimes we have to make sacrifices to survive in this messed up world.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:43 pm Ted Cunterblast

      Seeing older men with much younger hotties isn’t painful, it’s inspiring!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm midnight toker

        Inspiring for other older men like you but painful for those people who have already found real love and family or can see how valuable that is to others.
        It’s sad to see a man who is still trying to accomplish something he should have been able to achieve in his youth. A man who has missed out on the joy and fulfillment that only love and family can bring for more years than he should have is a painful thing to see because we know what he has missed out on.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm Ted Cunterblast

        What’s sad is seeing married men with that look of utter despair and hopelessness on their faces. Truly pathetic.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:43 pm K

        i meant older men -past their prime-, and yes, there is such a thing!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm Director

      In nature the 30 year old would kill the older men. Think William Conqueror and Harold Godwinson. Or Alexander and Darius. A 30 something man should be fucking and fighting his way to the kingdom or to a grave. How old was Genghis Khan when he really started his rampage?

      [CH: i dunno. in nature an esteemed older man would hire or order an acolyte to kill his younger upstart. prolly a 50/50 historical split between the two types of outcomes.]

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:01 am gunslingergregi

        that old man had many sons
        imagine the power of having 40 sons
        i’ll let you guys know

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:02 am gunslingergregi

        and those 40 sons make 1600 grandsons

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:07 am gunslingergregi

        1600 x 40 = 64000 great grandsons when the patriarch is less than 60 years old he he he
        if I would of been on my natural track when young easy would of had 40 kids by 20 years old

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:08 am gunslingergregi

        by now I could of had I don’t know how many kids but could of been a shitload

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:10 am gunslingergregi

        more than 40 by 20 I turned down a lot of bitches and if my game would of been make you pregnant game it would of been freaking off the fucking chain

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:17 am gunslingergregi

        my chick already saying when word gets out bitches gonna be holding cum in mouth to insert in pussy later
        the amount of bitches wanting me to impregnate them is going to rise by exponential amounts

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:28 am gunslingergregi

        if I could use Viagra to fuck fat bitches sky is the limit lolzlozlozlzolzozlozlz

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:26 am OSP

      “don’t be naive about why it worked; ie. your money/connections/celebrity/etc. she’ll give you her body and hope you die quickly”

      Who really gives a flying fuck – as long as she gives it up?

      60 here, and enjoying the fruits of my labor

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm gunslingergregi

        yea its funny why did your employee do the job just cause they got paid
        how sad he he he

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:54 am Wrecked 'Em

      Note that historical assessments of how long people lived, whether now or as hunter-gatherers or in pre-industrial England, are given as an average lifespan.

      Most people don’t know that nearly all of the variance in average lifespan is explained by infant mortality rates and childhood diseases. In times past, birth and childhood were far more fatal but if you made it to 15 you were as likely to see 70 as you are today.

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  29. on July 14, 2014 at 2:28 pm SC trollolololooo

    I disagree with Heartiste and a lot of other commenters here.

    1. Being feminist does not make you any more or less old, wrinkly, or ugly. Every woman gets older and wrinklier at the same linear rate, regardless of whether they are feminist or not. Therefore, even if feminism did not exist, men would still not want to be with women over 40, simply because of the aging and wrinkles. Lets face it, even the most traditional and sweet mannered women are going to be old and ugly when they are 60.

    [CH: no one claimed otherwise. however, there is ample evidence that loudmouthed self-proclaimed feminists are disproportionately ugly.]

    2. Although women should not fritter away their days sleeping with multitudes of men, they should also not have kids or grandkids. Being a good parent would require marriage, and marriage is bad for men.

    [having kids doesn’t require marriage, though it certainly helps to pool the finances and labor of two parents rather than one. the traditional concept of marriage isn’t inherently bad for men who are interested in having kids; the modern twist on marriage is what’s bad for men.]

    3. Men who get married are also somewhat responsible for their predicaments. Young, unmarried men need to know that the vast majority of men are only attracted to young women. (for example, age 20-23).

    [to be less trollish, the age range of maximum attractiveness for most women is 15-25. up to 35 (sometimes 40), women can still be fuckable to men, however the strength of the lust signal will weaken with each passing year.]

    It is not fair to men nor their wives when men naively enter into a lifetime contract to be with a woman who gets uglier and older. The vast majority of men should remain single and only have relationships with peak beauty women.

    [options aren’t limitless. few will make it through this world without sacrifice.]

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 8:48 pm SC

      My responses to you:

      It is in the best interests of most men to avoid women past peak attractiveness, just as it is in the best interests of most men to avoid women who are overweight. Men are deliberately making themselves unhappy when they decide to marry a woman who will someday be over 25 years old, if she is not that old already.

      It is true that options are not limitless. But every man has the option of forgoing sex, marriage, and female companionship entirely if he is not already married. I feel like some manospherians are saying “boohoo! the feminists are forcing us to have sex with old, wrinkled, and ugly women!” The feminists CANNOT force you to do anything unless you are already married and/or have a child.

      Men, just remember that you have the right to not have sex with women over 25, and ugly women. I truly believe that most men would be happier to either compete for women under 25 or go their own way.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 10:18 pm nomad

      damn. you better watch out trolls. CH is kicking some serious ass on this post and it’s only monday.

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  30. on July 14, 2014 at 2:32 pm Just Saying

    She thinks this man a sadistic monster

    We are what women have made us – just as they are what we have made them through evolution. Don’t blame a man for being truthful. Yes, he was blunt, but he probably felt that he had to be, he wasn’t being mean – any more than women are when they shoot a man down whom they see as beneath them. The unfortunate truth is that ALL women, will eventually be so far beneath men their own age as to be non-entities. As a 50+ year old man, I can relate to this man’s plight. I have met women that I thought, “I can get through this,” but the truth is the cock has no conscious, and it wants young, and tight. Make it dark and maybe I can imagine she’s younger, but in reality I cannot – I enjoy seeing too much, watching her, and that requires that she turns me on. And that requires a youthful, and attractive body…

    And the older I get, the more jaded I get – what turned me on at 18 would make me yawn today… Of course, the oldest woman I ever had sex with was when I was in my early 20’s and she was in her late 40’s… So older women should figure young guys will bang them, and move on – or go with a man at least 20 years older who still sees her as “young”…

    Reality is a harsh Mistress…

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:04 pm Nicole

      It’s not that harsh if you accept it, and play the cards you’re dealt well.

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  31. on July 14, 2014 at 2:36 pm Ted Cunterblast

    Agreed. The thought occurred to me too.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 3:49 pm Gro Haila

      What?

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  32. on July 14, 2014 at 2:41 pm Ted Cunterblast

    This old lady is full of shit. It’s funny how women are allowed to insult, humiliate, reject, and crush men all the time, but when the tables are turned, somehow it’s a major event,

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:26 pm MZ

      Not to mention that she looks like she’s in her mid to late 60s rather than 59.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:29 pm OlayDave

        Yeah, her photos show a lot of wear and tear, rode hard and put away wet! Its her hands, her neck and face: hard core wrinkles; while her bod looks okay! Guy was doing her a favor commenting on non-existent sagging rather than revealing the UGLY truth: her face and neck look like 40 miles of bad road.

        Dtaed a 60 yr. old and was actually delighted by her body; admittedly she worked out regularly and had great skin, but the wrinkles on her face were hard to overcome. Had to take off my glasses and use beer googles .

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  33. on July 14, 2014 at 2:48 pm Knowbody

    I’m 28 and the thought of any vag past 35 creeps me out. I can’t imagine seeing a 50+ yo snatch much less do anything to it…yikes!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm CH

      youth goggles are the opposite of beer goggles… they allow the wearer to see the sexual market much more clearly.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:25 pm no

      25 used to creep me out…i guess i’m just a dirty old man loool….so yeah 30-33 maybe is the cutoff

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 6:12 pm Greg Eliot

      Tsk, tsk… even Pete Townshend now laughs at himself for writing “Hope I die before I get old”.

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  34. on July 14, 2014 at 2:57 pm Knowbody

    This really has to be a scenario like the other poster above mentioned….he dodged every inquiry to why he didn’t wanna throw down some D and she badgered him to death until he layed it on her. Gotta be.

    Or well…dark triad! Girls love em! million bucks she still texts/calls him on occasion to this day. Girl writes an article about you…that’s some solid notoriety fellas!

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  35. on July 14, 2014 at 3:06 pm elmer

    Someone mentioned erectile dysfunction.

    Would make a funny post to contrast with “approach week”. Readers could share their flaccid penis stories. Lots of laffs.

    Because sometimes a guy approaches and is flabergasted when she just drops trou. Short-circuits the brain as he is expecting a chase so he can’t get it up. Really it’s unnerving when a chick does that. You think you are going to end up in a bathtub full of ice minus a kidney.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:09 pm chi-town

      It would also be interesting to start a comic book character set 10,000 years ago as an upper paleolithic hunter gatherer who is outnumber by his nearest enemies due to his being the first child of a 35 year old single mama who raped a blind, dying old man on a battle field of the losers.

      Watching him over come his obstacles and miseries would be inspiring. Watching him fail the hunt over and over again due to his fatherliness…..watching him driven to the most marginal lands due to no kin of his own but his shrieking entitled shew of a comparatively modern thinking prehistoric , wrinkled mama. And yet to see him somehow carry on, starving, outnumbered, and alone would just be soooo inspiring.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 7:02 am Trainspotter

        chi-town: “Watching him over come his obstacles and miseries would be inspiring. Watching him fail the hunt over and over again due to his fatherliness…..watching him driven to the most marginal lands due to no kin of his own but his shrieking entitled shew of a comparatively modern thinking prehistoric , wrinkled mama. And yet to see him somehow carry on, starving, outnumbered, and alone would just be soooo inspiring.”

        LOL! Brilliant.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 5:10 pm wolfie65

      Evidently you didn’t get the memo that everyone online in general and on this blog in particular has a steely perma-hard-on (even in a bathtub of ice) and scores of 19-year old HB 12’s slobbering all over it.
      One wonders where they find the time to write endless missives about ‘game’.
      Or why.

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  36. on July 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm true teller

    how old are you CH?

    [CH: 16. i’m very precocious.]

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:24 pm Kate

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm no

      tight vigin butthole

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:50 pm K

        LOL this is somehow painting a bad picture

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  37. on July 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm Plums Before Prunes | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  38. on July 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm bike bubba

    What I see in the story is a guy who thinks that somehow he can get naked with a gal and not have sex on the table. I have to wonder what planet he is from, and I don’t buy it that the wrinkles turned him off. It’s not as if you can’t tell if a lady is wrinkled from the part of her body–the face–that gets the most sun.

    No, this guy wasn’t turned off by wrinkles. Impotence, maybe, or perhaps homosexuality or even a personality disorder, but not the wrinkles.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 3:42 pm Arbiter

      Aww. White Knight to the rescue.

      “naked with a gal” – Um, no, Mr. White Knight. She is 59. That’s not a “gal”, that’s a grandmother-aged woman, well past her prime. He is also past his prime, but no one has said otherwise.

      “I have to wonder what planet he is from” – The planet where wrinkles are not attractive. Do you know of that planet? It’s the planet with human evolution that has been going on 100,000+ years. This evolution has hardwired homo sapiens to be attracted to youth and health in a mate. Go ahead, name one man who is attracted to wrinkles rather than smooth, youthful skin.

      “No, this guy wasn’t turned off by wrinkles. Impotence, maybe, or perhaps homosexuality or even a personality disorder, but not the wrinkles.”

      — So speaks a reality-denying woman, and a White Knight aping whatever reality-denying women say. He straight out says he was turned off by the wrinkles. And it is very, very plausible, as there is no man who finds wrinkles attractive. Endurable, perhaps, when they have to be endured, but not attractive. And still you say you refuse to believe his very plausible explanation, without which he would never have bothered to send in his story. Excuse me, what the fuck is wrong with your leftist little brain?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:04 pm Arbiter

        without which he would never have bothered to send in his story

        Ah, correction, she sent in the story. What the fuck, I don’t care. The fact that she wrote down and sent in his explanation shows that she did indeed believe his reason for not sleeping with her was the wrinkly, saggy old body. Yet you refuse to believe it, on her behalf. Hoping to win a prize?

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm corvinus

        Go ahead, name one man who is attracted to wrinkles rather than smooth, youthful skin.

        Actually, there’s a whole class of such men: gerontophiliacs.

        [CH: so rare there’s even a name for their condition.]

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:32 am gunslingergregi

        that is an old grandma

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:33 am gunslingergregi

        59 is great grandma aged woman

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:34 am gunslingergregi

        or even great great grandma

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 2:54 am Martin

        “Go ahead, name one man who is attracted to wrinkles rather than smooth, youthful skin.”
        This Guy would like to meet her:

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 5:15 pm wolfie65

        In these parts, ‘grandma-aged’ may mean 32.
        Haven’t met a 26-year old grandma yet, but I’m certain there are some.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:31 pm whorefinder

      He probably got naked hoping that at least the sight of a female naked form would get him going.

      He started dating her because he was “supposed” to like a girl her age. He liked her personality, but kept feeling no physical attraction.

      Like a good beta bitch, he said,” It will come because she is such a great person. If not, I can just be open with her and we can work through this, since I like her for who she is.”

      But all he kept thinking was , “Darn, why isn’t this 49years ago?”

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 5:55 pm Just Saying

        He probably got naked hoping that at least the sight of a female naked form

        She could have been the oldest woman he ever saw naked – other than maybe walking in on his grandmother as a child and having nightmares for the rest of his life… …

        He may not have had any idea of how horrific the sight of a naked, almost 60 yo woman can be… Pity the poor man… Such a sight could render him impotent till he gets it on with a sweet young thing…

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:36 pm MZ

      I imagine he intended to sex her but the wrinkles were a bone killer. I’ve had it happen to me before, not with wrinkles but a cute girl who was kind of fleshy, not so mush fat or chunky. I was ready to rock slipping under the sheets until I touched her, I was done.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 6:15 pm Greg Eliot

      Aw hell, this old dog won’t turn his nose up at some meat that isn’t fresh from the butcher… never know when the next morsel is coming.

      lzxozxlozozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozl

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:12 pm Luscious Jones

        Now you talkin! Come awn now baby less you ‘n me get ta makin’ some sweet lovin! Ah knows you wants ta lap at thise hot sweet chocolate pussy!

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 11:12 am Greg Eliot

        Luscious, mah little chocolate drop!

        I done already split my quota of black oak for the year during Approach Week.

        Catch me on the rebound in 2015.

        lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzolzoz

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:40 am Kyo

      “Impotence, maybe, or perhaps homosexuality or even a personality disorder, but not the wrinkles.”

      Can’t get turned no by a wrinkly sexagenarian? Must be gay. Right.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 9:26 am chi-town

      I could not get it up either. She looks like a man that looks like an old lesbian.

      http://www.cracked.com/article_15788_the-top-25-men-who-look-like-old-lesbians.html

      In the face of this I am completely impotent and flaccid. But not you I figure. You’ve got a bag of bones for these bitches. Be proud.

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  39. on July 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm Arbiter

    Platitudes women spout that are thrown away whenever reality doesn’t go their way, such as in this story:

    “Always speak your mind”

    “Be true to yourself”

    “Just be yourself”

    “Communicate about everything”

    He spoke his mind when she asked him for a reason. He was true to himself by not sleeping with her. He was being himself by not denying his preference. He communicated. For that any leftist woman reading this story will hate him. Platitudes are accepted only when they lead to the Left’s desired results. When the opposite happens, suddenly a man is mean, hurtful, wrong, sexist, just plain evil.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:30 pm Hugh Mann

      You’d think his searing honesty would be appreciated, wouldn’t you ?

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:29 am Arbiter

        Additional platitudes: He was “charting his own path”, “reaching for the stars” and “not listening to what other people think”.

        Actually if he really was this brutally honest that might have been a mistake. (Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the woman exaggerates. Would she let the reader know if she in fact dragged the answer out of him? Of course not.) But this shows that these platitudes are wrong. Feel-good messages that are easy to say but that are only realistic sometimes, other times not.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 1:55 pm Anonymous

        Watch what women do. NOT what they say!

        This couldn’t be more perfectly illustrated than by this haggard old cunt’s article.

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  40. on July 14, 2014 at 3:58 pm Lara

    She is being a baby. I am friends with plenty of men who probably aren’t sexually attracted to me. She needs to get over it.

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  41. on July 14, 2014 at 4:00 pm walawala

    I’m going to be 49, in shape, have a lot going for me. After what was a devastating break up by a hot girl now about to be 36…I reassessed my game. I made a conscious decision not to hit on any girl 34 or older.

    Only within the last 4 months I’ve banged 4 girls all below 33. Their personalities, their reactions to my age and the overall experience is so much more positive.

    Maybe it’s me hitting on better girls but I cannot go over 33…ever again.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:05 pm Arbiter

      Good to hear, walawala. Still trying to figure out what your username means, though. Maybe it’s an old-guy thing. 😛

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:39 pm whorefinder

        Mebbe you’re justa fag who can’t use google.

        PA’s sock puppet rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:15 pm oralcummings

        Wasnt that a song? “From Walla Walla Washington to Kalamazoo…” Its a beautiful day for a ballgame lol!

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:14 am Arbiter

        Mebbe you’re justa fag who can’t use google.

        PA’s sock puppet rape!

        Little neocon-lover whorefinder now accuses me of being PA’s sock puppet for not agreeing with him? Ridiculous. You’re pathetic fucking trash who always resorts to lies about your opponent. CH doesn’t allow sock puppetry, which you probably know, but you lie anyway.

        And typical of whorefinder, he brings his ad hominem attacks to all threads, instead of keeping them confined to the discussion thread. Like the leftist neocons he admires, he has no arguments and instead constantly resorts to personal attacks based on obvious lies. I was ready to give you the benefit of doubt, and tried to reason with you, but you’ve shown exactly what you are, whore.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 10:00 pm driveallnight

        Filipino di ba.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:08 pm PA

      I always figured it to be the city in WA. I was friends with a guy from there during my Army days.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:28 pm whorefinder

        Careful, comrade. You should not talk about your time serving Mother Russia’s beloved forces!

        Seig Heil rape!

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 7:07 pm PA

        “Mother Russia” and “Comrade”? Aw my sides. The sad little neocon monkey. The Eighties called; they want their generic insults back.

        … except that the neocon is not being anachronistic. It’s telling that he’s invoking Russia, and multiple times so. Which rancid faction of the US body politic is rattling Cold War sabers, which discredited bunch of swine hate Russia today? Who is mad about those imprisoned oligarchs?

        There is your answer. There is Wolfowitzfinder showing his colors. Just as he fesses upthread that his roots lie in open borders ideology.

        Hey, monkey: in your self abuse, you are forgetting that is Russia today that positions itself as representing White European Christianity and your masters at the GOP are going along with the Democrats’ redefinition of America as standing for degeneracy and multiculturalism.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:17 am Arbiter

        … except that the neocon is not being anachronistic. It’s telling that he’s invoking Russia, and multiple times so. Which rancid faction of the US body politic is rattling Cold War sabers, which discredited bunch of swine hate Russia today? Who is mad about those imprisoned oligarchs?

        My thought exactly the moment I saw him talking about Russia. The neocons in Weekly Standard are demonizing Russia today because their racial brethren among the oligarchs were thrown out, so whorefinder follows suit. Pathetic that he pretends it’s about anti-leftism, as if the neocons would be the Right and anyone who doesn’t agree with them would be leftist. Fucking disgusting lie.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:11 pm paddy

      Wala is probably a corruption of the French word, “voila”.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm gcm

      Rather than “pumping and dumping”, you ought to be using your well-earned capital and start a family, making sure you protect your assets with a pre-nup if marriage is up your alley. Because women at that age are generally looking for something long-term and a child to boot. Otherwise, all you are doing is contributing to the end of Western Civ.

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  42. on July 14, 2014 at 4:17 pm Charlie Don't Surf

    “From 30 feet away she looked like a lot of class. From 10 feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from 30 feet away.”
    ― Raymond Chandler, The High Window

    Lots of mutton dressing as lamb.
    Don’t waste your game on the gamey.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm OlayDave

      THIS!…… for this old broad. You just gotta see the photos to truly understand this whole thread.

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  43. on July 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm no

    I hate to bring up online dating again, because it’s not where you learn to get you PUA chops, but it time and time again seems to be a study on how to handle the feminist pyschology that is so rampant in America.

    I didn’t understand why I could not message any younger women in the 18-23 age range on POF. It was strange to me than NONE of them were allowing men who were not in their age range to message them. I know that probably half of them prefer to be with men 10 years or less to them, but another site I went to frequently has women who want to be with men 5 years older than them all the way to about 45-50.

    What I found out was that POF admin and the owners of the site have put a lock-down on men 14+ older than women. This does not apply to women as far as I know but they do it to men.

    All I have to say is that the women on there who do want older men to message them and can’t will figure this out and get frustrated with POF. They will just go to another site or become more hungry for older men offline.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:21 pm no

      …comment in moderation…tldr; pof owner has made an age limit of 14+ years no messaging younger women….looool

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:34 pm Sparks

        Just change your age, mine says I’m 29 muahaha

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 4:42 pm no

        i’m too prideful to do that even though i used to put 27 lool

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:23 am Sparks

        no it’s even worse than that. No man aged 30 or over can message any woman aged 21 or under. The 14 year thing only kicks in at 37 so a 31-36 year old can only message women 22 years and up. At 37 it becomes 23 years and up. That’s why I changed my age to 29.

        It’s crazy, POF has filters where the women can decide exactly what ages they want to receive messages from so there is no need for this draconian policy. I have more or less given up on POF. Tinder and OKC have no age restrictions so I use them instead. Plenty of 18-21 girls want men in their mid to late 30’s, trust me.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 5:28 pm wolfie65

      I have found online dating to be completely, utterly, 100% useless crap. My POF profile is still up for 1 reason only: it’s free. They send me ‘matches’ twice weekly, I glance at them and recoil in horror. Even the ‘New Users’ category – most of whom I am not allowed to contact anyway, I’m surprised they even let me look – loses much of what little charm it had after thousands upon thousands of SingleMomPrincessGoddesseswhosekidscomefirstidkwut2riteaskme.
      10 minutes at the bar is better than 3 years on POF.
      OKCupid – oft mentioned here – is even worse. Can’t recall EVER seeing an attractive profile on there, SingleMom Landwhales one and all. Or artsy nerds with black fingernails, 60’s glasses and the figure of a broomstick.
      There are some ‘dating’ sites with lots of pretty pictures, but after you pay for whatever ‘services’ they offer, you find out that all the profiles are fake.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 7:41 pm Zombie Shane

        > “10 minutes at the bar is better than 3 years on POF.”

        And 1 minute of Day Game is better than 10 minutes at the bar. Ditch the insanity of the digital world. Live Life as God intended it to be lived – up close and personal. Meatspace FTW.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 7:38 am Sparks

        Good point wolfie65, I’ve talked to a hell of a lot of girls online but never met anyone I would consider very attractive. Have been getting much better results recently from night game. Might just give up on the online thing altogether.

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  44. on July 14, 2014 at 4:28 pm no

    ^^^^I’m right now sitting in a public place and girls easily that age 18-24 keep walking by me multiple time eyeing me direct loool even some that look underaged….

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:29 pm no

      ..they probably recognize me from pof lool

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  45. on July 14, 2014 at 4:30 pm Rollo Tomassi

    After 50 it’s funny how women are suddenly, and conveniently, proud to be women ‘going their own way’.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 4:40 pm no

      At that age they should be taking pride in their grandmothering skills. Sad thing is alot of them now try to act like teens and of those over half are on anti-psycho meds.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm DeNihilist

        yup, me wifey went thru that teen phase a year ago. she went back to school to take a farrier course and started hanging with the kids. of course they all thought she was cool, or so she thought. became really bitchy for a while, figured that time was up. well after the course had ran its course, there was a plan for all these young uns and the wife to meet up at a rodeo. I was not invited, but being a free cunt-ry and being able to make my own mind up, went anyway. Well of the 2 young-uns that showed up, they spent all of 10 minutes with us. she spent the rest of the day hanging around me. suddenly these “kids” were just selfish little pricks,

        uh-huh

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 11:15 am no

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  46. on July 14, 2014 at 4:39 pm Pervert from a high school playground

    The World Cup Winners and their Teutonic wives and girlfriends. No old prunes there:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2691379/Germanys-WAGs-celebrate-style-Wives-girlfriends-invade-pitch-match-carry-partying-night.html

    PS

    Andre Schurle is pulling def outta his league!

    PS2

    In the midst of it all the Caribbean ghetto superslut finds it irrepressible to leech off of the winners for some of that sweet global exposure. And the idiots are only happy to comply. What a god awful feedback loop.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm darius

      God Damn… Check out the titanium frame Fischer’s demonstrating here. Aloof, almost annoyed. Smirking, while his HB9 has her arms draped around him taking a selfie. She’s just basking in his presence. This is how it’s done.

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      • on July 14, 2014 at 9:07 pm darius

        Actually, check out all the pix. These cats have some rock solid frame in all of them.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 9:01 am Sparks

      “Andre Schurle is pulling def outta his league!”

      He sure is. I wonder why his girlfriend is attracted to him, the millionaire sports star that he is…

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:10 am CH

        heh.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 2:16 pm Pervert from a high schoool playground

        On the closer look, she does not look that appealing under kilos of make up and that weird jaw:

        And she’s not even German, but Canadian! And as a former puck bunnie it’s safe to say she already had some athletes hammers down her veil. And her name is Montana Yorke! pornstar nomenclature signifies slutty DNA!!)

        Meh, I’ll pass.

        The Caribbean Ghetto Super Slut flashes her tits during the final game:

        The CGSS fondles thick shaft while engaging in threesome with the winning German troops:

        Miroslav Klose (‘deer in the headlights’) and the CGSS:

        Btw, Klose is polish born and married to a Polish woman and speaks Polish with his children at home. Attaboy!

        Mudsharking in action:

        Not to be outdone, the metrosexual poster jerk boy instagrams a close up selfie with his Russian slut:

        And a helicopter pic with juvenile braggadocio: “morning ride”

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  47. on July 14, 2014 at 4:44 pm Mr.Magpie

    “And so, we planned a weekend together. That’s when things got confusing, unspoken and just-not-quite there. We went to bed in a couple’s way — unclothed and touching — all parts near. Kisses were shared and sleep came in hugs. I attempted more intimacy throughout the weekend and was deterred each time”.

    They seem both foolish to me.
    “We planned” – her frame
    “in a couple’s way”- her frame
    “I attempted”- her frame

    CH:There can be such a thing as too much experience. Nothing is a bigger turn-off than a woman giving you directions in bed on how to please her sexually. Because she has learned over the years which positions and movements bring her to orgasm reliably, she refuses to deviate from her gameplan, and has closed herself off to spontaneous sexual expression

    This is the crux of the matter from my viewpoint, he wasn’t in control of himself.
    He should have known what he was doing or not been there.
    Perhaps he envisioned the weekend fisting her or fucking her face, but he didn’t set up the frame at all.

    I appreciate that’s easier said than done but at his age that’s also an important quality along with health and inner game. To be confident and leading in intimacy whatever the (meagre at times) options.

    “He spoke of special stockings and clothing that would “hide” my years. He blithely told me he loved “little black dresses” and strappy shoes.”

    he gives direction far too late in the day(as she admits in comments)

    from in/after article on HFP

    “The suggestions of what I was to do to allow him sexual fulfillment were objectifying and belittling. When a man comes to my bed, I make the assumption that he wants to be with me–not some made-up version of me.”

    “and shamed by memories of my easy nakedness with him in days just passed.”

    terrible negotiation going on here on both sides

    “–I refuse to compromise my soul ever again to please someone else. I did this for way too many years in all aspects of my life. I see so very clearly now the damage and hurt I did to myself.”

    this is the real clanger on her part – she was out to get a good weekend and if at 59 she didn’t realise she had to surrender to him then she got what she deserved. He got what he deserved for not leading.

    Silly people.

    ……………

    Sex with any woman should be for her enjoyment but done precisely how the man wants it and how he sees fit regarding the situation. The best feeling is seeing her chewing the pillow because you are driving her insane. An erection doesn’t need to come into that but as she bonds and surrenders it will of its own accord.

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  48. on July 14, 2014 at 4:53 pm Rollo Tomassi

    Feminist ‘equalism’ is always shocked that evolved human biology won’t cooperate with it.

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  49. on July 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm Rollo Tomassi

    The only real use men are to women is to facilitate a feminine reality, at every age and for every circumstance.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 11:57 pm thrust

      meantime, lets watch Blue Valentine!

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  50. on July 14, 2014 at 5:02 pm Libertardian

    More unacceptable commentary here
    http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/1005961

    Here’s how this used to work. You’re a 20-something man. If you’re not a piece of shit then you can marry a young, feminine, virginal 7, maybe an 8 or 9 if your prospects are good or really good. In exchange, you must support her for decades after she hits the wall, or else suffer severe financial and social penalties. You’re young, dumb, and horny, so it’s not hard to sell you this package.

    Fast forward to today, when you’re expected to pay the exact same price on the back end, in exchange for a tattooed ex-carousel rider who has spent an extra 20 years pickling in booze, soul-devouring corporate bullshit, and man-eating feminazism. You’re also not 20 any more, not nearly as horny, and your happy naivete is long gone.

    Not to worry, though, Obama is frantically importing the replacement population for the US as we speak.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:19 am Trainspotter

      Yep, that’s the deal. Excellent post.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm Wrecked 'Em

      Also, she hasn’t fed you, supported your career, and given you kids — and you now have a lot of latent value, which she didn’t help create. Old rules: In the beginning she pays it forward, in the end you pay her back. win-win

      But trying to get young women to “pay it forward” is an exercise in futility. Hence, Patriarchy. We didn’t completely understand — and sometimes we couldn’t even articulate — the myriad ways the “old ways” worked… but they did.

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  51. on July 14, 2014 at 5:13 pm Libertardian

    http://soniamarsh.com/2014/05/how-could-this-happen-id-done-everything-right.html

    “The day I started telling myself the truth

    “My Gutsy Story®” Robin Korth

    I was 51-years-old with not a clue as to how I had gotten to this place of feeling so solitary and undone. Life had treated me badly. I had done everything right, but it had just come out wrong. How could this happen? Who was to blame? I remember eyeing that terribly cold room as if the answers might be found there. As if someone would walk in the door and say, “Gee, Robin, I am at fault. Let me fix it all up. I’ll make it okay.” But no one was coming. I was the only one there.”

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 5:53 pm Libertardian

      http://f2bbs.com/bbs/show_topic/1005961/7#msg_7865705

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  52. on July 14, 2014 at 5:19 pm stuttie

    @ darius – We’ve walked down similar paths my friend. I couldn’t accept mediocre obligated desire either and fucked younger pussy on the side…. till I got caught. Been separated 3 years now. I’m early 40’s she’s late 40’s (I know, what was I thinking). She was HB8.5 at 30 when we married. I look at her now and can only see a withered old woman. Yet, she now has a early 30’s beta manboob servant happily propping up her SMV – and happy to cuckold my 2 kids lol

    Never underestimate the thirst of the beta. 40+ women these days are living in a false SMV economy aided and abetted by their beta accomplices.

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 8:55 pm darius@yahoo.com

      How’d you get caught?

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:45 am gunslingergregi

        better to just be honest you will always get caught
        my bitch caught me in a dream for chrissakes although I was honest with her later

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:56 am Greg Eliot

      Never underestimate the thirst of the beta. 40+ women these days are living in a false SMV economy aided and abetted by their beta accomplices.

      Absolutely true… in my own circle of neighbors and acquaintances, I’ve seen firsthand two land whales have another hubby within less than one year after their first husbands left ’em.

      And BOTH had two children!

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 1:44 pm Jay in DC

        Absolutely. Any war pig now matter how hideous can get commitment from a ‘man’ of desperation.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 1:55 pm CH

        this isn’t true. there are plenty of hideous women who go years and years without sex.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 10:31 pm Greg Eliot

        The only women I’ve ever known to go without sex are those that aren’t all that interested in it to begin with… and I think even THEY had some orbiters at their beck and call.

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  53. on July 14, 2014 at 5:43 pm Trimegistus

    When “nice guys” complain that women aren’t interested in them, the feminist rejoinder is “HOW DARE YOU FEEL ENTITLED TO SEX?!!”

    Well, sauce for the gander is sauce for the goose, especially an old, tough, wrinkly goose: How dare she feel entitled to male desire?

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 10:12 am Zodak

      “HOW DARE YOU FEEL ENTITLED TO SEX?!!”

      good one! as much as i hate muffpo i might login just to post that comment

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 10:15 am cheesetrader

        Zoday – absolutely you should. See how long it takes before deletion – I’ll start the pool with “less than one hour”

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:54 am Greg Eliot

      No worries, ladies… when you visit Schloss Eliot, you ARE entitled to sex.

      The generous sort, I am.

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  54. on July 14, 2014 at 5:44 pm Anonymous

    what is the best vibe to put out at the beginning of a first date….is it aloof and casual disinterest or should i be engaging more to put her at ease?

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  55. on July 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm Prov Erbs

    Was she never married? Widowed? Divorced? Clearly she had kids. Either way, had she stayed with the husband of her youth he would have had his wife goggles on. My wife of 15+ years looks amazing with clothes on, is incredibly fit. Yet, with her clothes off she looks like a really in shape 40 year old woman who pumped out two babies. I still look at her with my wife goggles on, since we got married when she was 22 and I was 24. Now that she’s enjoying attention from young men, I don’t want to mate guard but sometimes I can’t help it. Objectively she has wrinkles and will hit the wall soon enough, but I still have my wife goggles and remember her 22 year old face and body.

    The 59 year old woman has no such benefit. She just looks like an old hag who feels a man should be attracted to her? He has other options. What about her?

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    • on July 14, 2014 at 8:59 pm Zombie Shane

      > “My wife of 15+ years… pumped out two babies… was 22…”

      So she’s only 37 or 38? Put some more buns in her oven. You fag.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 11:49 am Greg Eliot

        Now, now… follow the proper proprieties.. it’s “You fairy.”

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  56. on July 14, 2014 at 6:22 pm PIATTI

    Robin .. the woman in the story is insane.. she fucked up her life.. by her own admission starved her relationships with her son daughter and husband of attention ..and is now giving advice.. as an international speaker.. the story sounds half true half bs

    plus her comments in the article to other commentators show the warmth and introspection of an alligator

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:48 am Greg Eliot

      She’s a member of the Tribe, I’m betting…

      I still get chills from the chutzpah of their ubiquitous subliminal messaging: “Us First, Always”… even as background graffiti in The Walking Dead, of all places.

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  57. on July 14, 2014 at 7:18 pm FireDragon

    Holy Feminist Double Standards Batman! Not to mention a complete lack of logic… e.g. Anyone else notice in the article that she complained that the sex he wanted to do were, in her words “objectifying”. Yet the entire article is a complaint that he doesn’t consider her a sex object. Hello!?!?

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:48 am Holden Caulfield

      spot on analysis

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  58. on July 14, 2014 at 7:20 pm Imperial Leather

    check out her online bio

    “…is a renegade and an outlaw” – new age/self help monstrosity

    more a case of if Skeletor was a woman

    thats why he couldnt get hard for her

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  59. on July 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm FireDragon

    Holy Feminist Double Standards Batman! Not to mention a complete lack of logic…
    e.g. Anyone else notice in the article that she complained that the sex acts he wanted to do were, in her words “objectifying”. Yet the entire article is a complaint that he doesn’t consider her a sex object. Hello!?!?

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  60. on July 14, 2014 at 7:29 pm Gil

    In other news young women believe their labia will be high and tight like saran wrap stretched over a pot roast forever. It makes sense that middle-aged women have to keep their legs open on cue if they intend to enjoy the servicing of homeless cock for three seconds lest they get the idea that a wedding and white picket fence are in their future.

    [CH: amazingly perceptive!]

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  61. on July 14, 2014 at 7:30 pm Johnathan Blaze

    Check out Carly Fiorina, she is about 58-59 in this link and I think she’s still fuckable

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/18/carly-fiorina-texas-abortion-law-not-particularly-extreme/

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    • on July 16, 2014 at 9:34 am thwack

      tee-vee make up; take her camping and get back to me

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  62. on July 14, 2014 at 8:26 pm Bill

    American women like this are not rare. A while back I met one online. I was in my mid-forties and she was in her early forties, with several young kids. On our first date the subject of dating tests came up. I asked her if she had any (almost all of them do). She said, yes; she ended her last relationship because when she asked the guy what he would order in a Chinese restaurant he answered “almond chicken”, a dish she regarded as insufficiently culinarily adventurous.

    I regret wasting years of my life and thousands of dollars dating American women. There are so many younger, hotter, slimmer, Russian women who actually are very interested in relationships with guys.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:00 am LP

      Interested in “relationships?” To what end? What are the goals of these “hotter, slimmer” women? You can get the same women here on Sugardaddy.com

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 1:49 pm Jay in DC

      There are so many younger, hotter, slimmer, Russian women who actually are very interested in relationships with guys.

      Danger Will Robinson… LP pretty much nailed it. The vast majority are ruthless mercenaries and are MUCH better at milking you for cash then their Western counterparts.

      Unless you are meeting them more organically then some cheesy Russian Brides type venue.

      I swear be EEs and Slavic women in general but they ARE women, and you need to be just as astute judging them as you would judging any Americunt.

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  63. on July 14, 2014 at 9:58 pm stuttie

    @ Darius – I hazard a guess that as soon as I stopped jumping through hoops & juggling on my unicycle for a once a week obligated fuck – she got suspicious and just happened to check my work emails. But here’s the kicker – she stayed with me for near 2-3 years and the sex all of a sudden got more intense and frequent. Basically lured me into a false sense of relationship security – then bam – ice cold and she left – then kept fucking me on and off – then got the shits that I was fucking other women – now it’s 1000% over and I couldn’t be happier. .

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  64. on July 14, 2014 at 10:12 pm darius

    Good to know. The increased, intense/frequent sex is interesting as well. There’s a term for it “hysterical bonding” which strikes me as some feminist inspired pseudo-scientific justification for the increased desire by the cheated on partner after an affair. Appears to be usually women who share stories of the phenomenon.

    Seems to me though that the simpler explanation is what I’ve read here. Your woman suddenly knows that you have options, you’ve been qualified by another female, and thus her desire is now spiked. It’s the CH piece from awhile back about your woman secretly wanting you to cheat, or at least know you’re capable of it.

    @ronin… Yeah, know all about Dave from hawaii and MMSL. They’re on to something. Doesn’t always work though.

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  65. on July 14, 2014 at 10:16 pm ray

    The 59 y.o. described the man who told her the obvious truth as ‘vicious’. Now that the US is a full-on socio-political matriarchy, the repercussions of multiplying her sentiment by 60 million women is uglier than any wrinkly body. Because a lot of (male) Somebodies will pay for daring not to sexually desire females who should be grandmothers and great-grandmothers — not trolling the SMP, filled with the lies their culture tells them.

    Her seething rage is at the core of feminism. American women in their forties and fifties certainly DO expect and demand romantic/sexual relationships, which of course is impossible (outside lifelong marriage) and thus guarantees constant gender-war in America and the West. A war that btw is v profitable and politically useful, as the frustration and anger of women is sublimated partly in materialism and Empowerment, and partly in maintainence of the Prison Industrial Complex and the larger gynarchy . . . to properly punish men for their ‘viciousness’ in not going along with the mass delusions of the American female and her male enablers.

    Cheers.

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  66. on July 14, 2014 at 10:20 pm Rum

    (Dame) Margerat Thacther was about this same when she was remaking British – and world – politics. And she managed to pull that off without disgusting any man anywhere.
    She stayed fit, she wore make-up, she winked at hot guys, She got the big changes she wanted against fierce and stoopid opposition.
    She hardly ever missed a step. The female T was strong in her

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 7:04 am LP

      Well, that’s the thing, right? Men are not inherently repulsed by older women. No one is suggesting they crawl into the woods and hide away from society after 45. There’s a difference between being a contributing member of society and being a sexual object. But I guess many people would disagree with my assessment.
      http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/42-year-old-women

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 4:49 pm Holden Caulfield

        @LP “men are not inherently repulsed by older women”
        Yes actually we are inherently repulsed by older women. You’re confusing sexual market value with matronly or social market value. Contributing to society in a non-sexual way has no relationship to being attractive to men.
        Check out the “same three girls” post in the CH archives if you need clarity.

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  67. on July 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm Rum

    same age …

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  68. on July 14, 2014 at 10:33 pm Rum

    Very sorry, again, its actual Baroness Thatcher…. A Granthum Green Grocers daughter; raised as Methodist, raised as a lioness.

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  69. on July 14, 2014 at 10:56 pm Rum

    My own daughter/ lioness-of-God is now this year the Chief – Resident in her Senior Year of her Surgery Training Program.
    That means that about a year from now she can expect to start to make serious money by slicing off large body parts and other important organs from human semi-corpses and throwing them into a large medal pan.

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  70. on July 14, 2014 at 11:48 pm Will

    I think certain parts of our society really fuck up man/woman relationships. Such as cell phones.

    If I “lead/initiate” I feel like the beta who is over invested.

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  71. on July 15, 2014 at 12:52 am walawala

    This story completely validates game and draws a clear line between red and blue-pill thinking.

    Women can rinse guys, women can dump guys for money or for cars—hypergamy.

    This dude is just asking the woman he’s wasting his time with on a “dates” to spice it up…and she starts shaming him.

    What’s interesting is she’s 59 going for a 54 year old…

    So that means if she was 30 would she be trying for a 24 year old? What was she doing when she was 30?

    Women in stable relationships can dump guys…but when guys do this…they’re misogynists or pigs.

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  72. on July 15, 2014 at 2:02 am Bahamas Tour

    I agree with your comments. It is great that this is happening. You always pay in the end. It is just a matter of when. If you are the virginal fiancee and then mother of a man’s children, there is a history and a well of love that remains, even after the passion is gone. But why would any man want to hang around with some old woman that he hardly knows and has no history with?

    One of the aspects of the ills of feminism your blog does not address is Borderline Personality Disorder. It does not exist outside the West. Why? Because everywhere else it provokes a spanking and the matter is closed. Feminism tells us that these women are better off without a family and a marriage and a home and are best to be suicidal, so that they do not have to suffer from an occasionally sore butt.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:41 am Greg Eliot

      The irony is, they LIKE the occasional red bottom… feminists foremost.

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  73. on July 15, 2014 at 2:28 am Bahamas Tour

    This also underscores why there is such an effort going into banning prostitution on the part of “Progressive” Feminists. Because once the kids work out what the eventual pay-off is on feminism – no family, no sex, no hubby – Feminism is not going to look so great. Let us therefore cut off the alternatives and stop young women cashing in on the Feminazis’ loss.

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  74. on July 15, 2014 at 2:33 am Bahamas Tour

    Your post is transparently right. One aspect of feminism that you miss is the proliferation of Borderline Personality Disorder. This is not something that exists outside the West, except in text books. The feminists have stopped a man putting a wife over his knee and giving her a spanking. That historically is how BPD was corrected. Instead, spanking has now been criminalized and BPD has been medicalized and there is no known cure. So these poor women, because generally that is what they are, are denied a husband, children and a home and cannot get a career because of BPD, but they can make all their own decisions (!) and then seek psychiatric help and they exchange a meaningful life for not have having an occasionally sore butt. What a great deal!

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 4:14 am Zombie Shane

      > “BPD etc etc etc”

      POST OF THE YEAR MATERIAL RIGHT THERE.

      POTY SRSLY.

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  75. on July 15, 2014 at 4:39 am Plums Before Prunes | Truth and contradictions ...

    […] A 59-year-old woman, international speaker and writer (“productive citizen”), laments the icy rejection she received at the hands of a 55-year-old man who felt a surge of natural male biological disgust for her naked wrinkly old lady body.  […]

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  76. on July 15, 2014 at 4:41 am quasi

    Korth.

    Interesting surname. I wonder where that came from.

    Nah, couldn’t be…

    [Speaking of old crones, the anti-white author Nadine Gordimer kicked the bucket the other day so, unsurprisingly, she’s been the subject of many gushing tributes in the liberal media this week. Out of morbid curiosity, I looked up her background on wiki – you’ll never guess what I found!]

    Just coincidence. All coincidences…

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 10:18 am Zombie Shane

      > “you’ll never guess what I found!”

      NO WAY!!!!!

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  77. on July 15, 2014 at 5:41 am Heir

    You’re only as old as the woman you feel.

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  78. on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 am Arbiter

    General comment about age: sooner or later it trips up all of us. The body is your main tool and that tool will get worse even if you prolong the deterioration as you should. Therefore, if your happiness is derived only from personal pleasure, you will be playing a losing game. Your ultimate conviction must come from identifying with a larger group. That group lives on, and when your actions have helped it move forward, you live on through the group. Paradoxically, only by not placing your own happiness at the top can you be truly happy.

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  79. on July 15, 2014 at 6:56 am Heir

    Salvation

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  80. on July 15, 2014 at 7:01 am James K

    From her website:

    Soul on the Run is the gut-wrenchingly honest portrayal of one woman’s search for herself, and her refusal to continue playing the game of “let’s pretend everything is okay”; What’s more, it reminds us — when we are honest with ourselves — we can start life over at any age.

    i.e. she makes a living selling hamster food.

    Let’s be honest, open and brave! – Robin Korth

    but we now know that there are limits to the honesty and openness that she really wants.

    Her face has a gnarled wrinkling that normally signals an age in the seventies. For most men under 70 her looks will be a passion killer.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:37 am Greg Eliot

      Robin Korth… hmmmm…

      Aw, hell, I don’t care if she is a yenta, I’d spank some of that sass out of her and then rock her world.

      Sometimes a man’s just got to take one for the team:
      Away from Microsoft Office and to the kitchen with ye, woman!

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  81. on July 15, 2014 at 7:45 am Anton

    The point was made before, but…check out her website. This woman would still be appalling if she was young and hot looking….

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  82. on July 15, 2014 at 8:14 am Skinner

    Off-topic. Seeking advice, anecdotes, flames here.
    Got a girl showing interest but offering some resistance due to cultural religious conservatism (Irish Catholic.) I ran into her while wearing a Metal tee with Satanic nonsense on it (just back from a festival) and since then I’ve been spitting light-hearted devil-worship game at her, which she seems to be responding to (
    What’s counter-intuitive to her frame is that she is gaming me back a little. Game knows game, right? And good religious girls don’t game.
    I want to escalate this quickly to the bang (no LTR interest) but she’s hiding behind the good girl frame all the time. I don’t think she’s truly religious, but culturally from that background, and I know this Satan game shit won’t fly for too much longer. In short, how do I break her frame and get her to admit she’s not what she’s claiming?

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 2:15 pm Amy

      Maybe she IS what she’s claiming, which seems to be a girl who doesn’t want to be pumped and dumped. You think she’s a slut because she went to a goth festival and knows how to flirt? Jesus. If you’re not interested in a relationship, then leave her alone and find a chick willing to have a ONS. Apparently they’re everywhere.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 2:40 pm cryo

        someone just got burned

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 3:32 pm Amy

        Lol, no. I’ve been in a RL for about a year now.

        These posts just annoy me. The “nice” girls you all lament don’t exist– the ones that don’t slut around and want to be faithful, good girlfriends– try to do exactly what this girl is doing, delay sex, get the guy to invest some time (not money) in her, etc to weed out the players. That’s really all we can do in today’s world. If guys are going to deliberately fuck over girls like this by pretending to be relationship oriented, they shouldn’t whine about the decline of society. They’re officially part of the problem.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 6:35 pm cryo

        Amy, the problem is we can’t trust that she didn’t delay sex for the other guys that came before. In fact its almost certain that she didn’t, considering the current hookup culture. You may see it as not a big deal, but men don’t want to be some bint’s relationship project after she already indulged her carnal desires.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 7:47 pm Skinner

        Hey sweetness. Don’t make assumptions. That’s what you’re accusing me of, right? I was at the rock festival. She wasn’t. I was just wearing the shirt when I met her.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 7:55 am Amy

        @skinner: My bad. It’s not really about the shirt, though.

        @cryo: I know. But if you’re going to invest time in a girl, be honest about what you want (or don’t want) because she’ll probably assume you’re open to a RL. Phrases like “I’m not looking for anything serious”, etc. are good cues. We all know what that means.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 2:48 pm Skinner

        It sorta IS about the shirt.
        I’m gonna indulge you on this one, Amy. Let’s say she is a good Catholic girl, goes to Mass regular, well-behaved, looking for that special someone to have little Catholic babies with. If so, wtf is she doing kissing and cuddling with someone wearing a tee with Satanic BS on it?
        Cryo nailed this. What’s happening here is what happens in every woman’s mind when they encounter a man – their vag tingle goes to war with their ‘fund my lifestyle’ impetus. This girl is playing for the full beta-worship, but can’t help finding little old occasionally Alpha me sexually exciting. So to resolve the conundrum, it’s up to me to unlock the panties, or her to spin me around into partnering her up and splashing the cash.
        In short, all women want Alpha fucks AND Beta bucks, but you can’t have everything. In my case, no betabucks are on the table. You wanna know if I’ve made that clear? Every time I’ve stuck my tongue down her throat and grabbed her ass.

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      • on July 16, 2014 at 3:42 pm Amy

        “Let’s say she is a good Catholic girl, goes to Mass regular, well-behaved, looking for that special someone to have little Catholic babies with. If so, wtf is she doing kissing and cuddling with someone wearing a tee with Satanic BS on it?”

        Because it’s just a shirt. And if she isn’t really religious, so what? Does that automatically mean she wants casual sex?

        “What’s happening here is what happens in every woman’s mind when they encounter a man – their vag tingle goes to war with their ‘fund my lifestyle’ impetus. This girl is playing for the full beta-worship, but can’t help finding little old occasionally Alpha me sexually exciting.”

        Or she’s just playing for a guy who’s open to a relationship. What’s up with the extremes? There are plenty of guys who are sexually exciting AND capable of a relationship. What we go to war with is our desire to have sex with a guy we’re attracted to before we know whether he’ll stick around.

        “So to resolve the conundrum, it’s up to me to unlock the panties, or her to spin me around into partnering her up and splashing the cash.”

        We have our roles to play. You’re very focused on money, but she might just be looking for commitment generally. Men push for sex, women push for commitment.

        “In my case, no betabucks are on the table. You wanna know if I’ve made that clear? Every time I’ve stuck my tongue down her throat and grabbed her ass.”

        We expect you’ll escalate sexually. If “no betabucks are on the table” means you aren’t a relationship guy, you make that clear by not investing any non-sexual time with her and making no effort to get to know her. Then she’ll know the score.

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    • on July 17, 2014 at 8:04 pm Skinner

      Really no point responding to you, Amy. Your euphemism of ‘commitment’ effectively boils down to betabux.
      Certainly I’m both capable and open to a relationship. In fact, I’m open to as many as I can feasibly maintain while getting on with my own goals.
      But hey, I’m only the guy who’s met, hung out, made out and dated this girl. You know better, right?

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      • on July 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm Amy

        Lol, I’m using your words, not mine. You said you just wanted to bang her (“no LTR interest”). If you know you have no LTR interest, you’re not open to a relationship with her. So why are you “dating” her to “break her good girl frame”?

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  83. on July 15, 2014 at 9:29 am DeNihilist

    Skinner, put her over your knee and spank her.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:10 am Skinner

      I think she’d go for that down the line, but it’s been tough escalating kino with this one. Catholic guilt is a big in-built resistor.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:56 am Eeyore

      No joke. And then the oral sex.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 12:11 pm Skinner

        Trust me, I’m being forceful and insistent, but she shies away from kino and then goes cold. I think her inner shame monster is beating up on her inner slut. She (like all chicks) wants to parlay this into a ‘hold my hand and fund my lifestyle’ routine, whereas I’m looking for a move to help the slut win.

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  84. on July 15, 2014 at 9:30 am Oldsinglewhiteguy

    I am a cashier at a Wal-Mart store in an affluent suburb of Denver. I am a new arrival at CH, but recognize great and truthful writing when I see it. After reading all of his recent posts, I decided to do an experiment. After taking care of each female customer, I write down in a small notebook how I would rank her. Here were the results from yesterday:
    Two ones
    Twenty twos
    Thirty-nine threes
    Thirty-five fours
    Twenty-one fives
    Sixteen sixes
    Thirteen sevens
    No eights, nines, or tens.
    The experiment caused me to pay much closer attention to each female customer, but didn’t do much for my depression.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 9:51 am Zombie Shane

      DUDE! WELCOME TO THE MANOSPHERE AND THE DARK ENLIGHTENMENT!!! We need Field Reports! [“FRs”!] Also, may we assume that you are using pseudonyms? If not, then create a new identity where you are, say, working at a “Best Buy” in “Lake Tahoe”. BECAUSE THEY ARE WATCHING US! MOO HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

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  85. on July 15, 2014 at 9:41 am cheesetrader

    Here’s a mindtrick – take out “age” references and replace with ‘weight” – and guess what? You get the same freakin’ I’M FAT AND BEEEEYOOOTTTTIIIIFFFFULLLL article polluting the web.

    She should be happy with his honest answer. I’m sure her cat likes the wrinkles.

    The comment thread on the root article is a scary collection of “you go, girl!!!” affirmation and white knighting.

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  86. on July 15, 2014 at 10:04 am BuenaVista

    I don’t believe the story as written because it’s too perfect as a sex pozzie, Fem 2.0 morality tale. She’s too perfectly the victim of a wishy-washy, ultimately superficial Peter Pan Man. Then she Scores! with an international self-expose of her own sexual humiliation.

    I have a lot of experience with women 10-20 years younger than the Spurned Geriatric. 10-20 years younger? Their panties are on the floor on the first date. Sexual insistency rises with female age. I have real doubts the male in this story can be so idiotic. Maybe he just got out of prison, or the funny farm.

    But maybe the guy really is the putz that she makes him out to be, and he thinks it’s really great to disappear for a weekend and spend lots of money and hug casual friends while nude, and he really is naive enough to think that she won’t demand that her Totally Awesome Mature Sexuality be affirmed. Now we just have another story about two losers in the love-wars.

    —

    I agree with one of the women, here in the thread above, that it’s not necessary to graphically describe her visual deficiencies. In general, if you harbor friendly (if not sexual) thoughts, the point can be made: pajamas, separate rooms, or (better) not doing sleepovers period. It should be in Epictetus, or rather it is but is only paraphrased: “Never complain, never explain.”

    Wife goggles is a real thing. My ex- was a Vogue model and college athlete; she’s 56 now. I’m always puzzled when I see a picture of her, because I see the age. However, in person or in my imagination, she’s still totally hot.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 10:08 am cheesetrader

      Good observation about the root article – reads far too closely to a feminist version of a Penthouse letter. I mean come on – they’re going away on a 3 day weekend and haven’t banged yet?

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 10:26 am BuenaVista

        I believe a woman in these straits would (go away with no prior sexual history), especially if Bozo is paying, but only a putz proto-feminist gamma would fail to get separate rooms.

        The author is extremely status conscious, so aside from Our Putz being younger, I’m sure he had other checklist virtues she forgot to mention, if he even exists.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 11:12 am blindman

      “I’m always puzzled when I see a picture of her, because I see the age. However, in person or in my imagination, she’s still totally hot.”

      i know exactly what you are talking about. amazing how that works.

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  87. on July 15, 2014 at 10:45 am bike bubba

    OK, let me get this straight here; if I point out that a man who gets naked with a woman, but does not have sex with her, has problems of his own, I am a “white knight”? Seriously?

    Come on. The fact that the woman has some problems–walking away from marriage in 2006 and adopting an “in your face” feminism doesn’t help men overcome her age, to be sure–doesn’t mean that the guy doesn’t have some growing up to do, too. And if it takes him three days of nudity and a confrontation to figure out he’s not attracted to a lady, the man’s got some serious issues, and celibacy just might be more his speed.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 1:21 pm Zodak

      yeah, you are an internet white knight defending the girl & throwing the man under the bus. the guy told her what girls always claim they want: a man who is attracted to her for everything except her body. he was not objectifying her. & surprise she wants to be objectified. what you do? you blame the man. newsflash: she is not going to sleep with you, so stop trying to impress the “lady” as you put it.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 3:49 pm bike bubba

        Yes, I’m being a white knight, defending her by saying it was foolish to leave marriage and adopt an in your face feminism. And she–unless somehow convinced by me–would tell me that with friends like me, she doesn’t need enemies.

        Seriously, some of you guys need to wake up and learn how to read. And, for that matter, not everybody is able to rock the Clint Eastwood/Hugh Hefner vibe into their sixties and beyond, so a lot of you guys are going to be wise to see if you can put on some “wife goggles”, as your choice is going to be either that, Captain Capitalism’s .357 mag retirement plan, or a long time of involuntary celibacy if you can’t deal with a wrinkle or two.

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  88. on July 15, 2014 at 11:08 am cheesetrader

    The tangential piece from Esquire *praising* 42 yo women is really funny when you read the comments

    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture/42-year-old-women

    Women are so messed up

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  89. on July 15, 2014 at 11:16 am MZT

    @bike bubba….”And if it takes him three days of nudity and a confrontation to figure out he’s not attracted to a lady”….you see, to me that just doesn’t add up, and that’s why I am of the opinion that she just made this story up, or at least a very large part of it, and this is simply just another example of common female attention seeking behavior.

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  90. on July 15, 2014 at 11:56 am newlyaloof

    Good example of plums AND prunes all in the same place/woman, and how this relates to married blindness. See ladies, half of these pictures are how you always see yourself, and how married dude see you, even though the other half of the pictures is the more clearer reality:
    http://www.curvyerotic.com/galleries/michelle7/vassanta_shadow_play/

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  91. on July 15, 2014 at 12:49 pm Jonathan

    The strong response to this post suggests that CH’s male readership distribution by age is bimodal or at least has a fat right tail. But the older guys don’t seem to comment as much, maybe because they are 1) busier, 2) more reluctant to risk outing themselves and/or 3) cowed by the drumbeat of “women above the age of XX are unfuckable” comments from younger guys.

    My own experience is that women above the age of XX become more attractive as I attain the age of XX+Y.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm Skinner

      This. When I see someone saying ‘Girls over 30 are unfuckable’, I assume they themselves are under 25. For me, women over about 45 are unfuckable. I know a superb lady, cool, dtf, makes me laugh, would be my maid if let, but there’s no point – she’s too old for me to happily fuck her and I wouldn’t lead her on like the guy allegedly did in the story above. But she’s 50. Her 32 yo friend I’d plough like a new field, even if she is a bitch. Why? Because I’m not 25 anymore and to me she is bangable fo sho. I’d like to see more older guys speak up here. Therein lieth the wisdom, not with the kindergartners, no offence young padowans.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 2:45 pm CH

        most older men would fuck the daylights out of a hot teenage girl. most older men would never admit this to anyone, including themselves. most older men will relax their standards as their options shrink.

        none of this should be mistaken for a hard-wired and hardcore and hardened male preference for 32 year olds over 18 year olds. you throw bachelor grandpa in the room with a barely legal whore and he’s gonna wonder what he ever saw in all those old bags he boffed during his golden years.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 8:17 pm Jonathan

        “most older men will relax their standards as their options shrink.”

        Sure. Rationalizing age-related SMV decline is as natural as the decline itself, in both sexes (obviously women’s SMV decays faster). But there is healthy and unhealthy rationalization. Healthy looks to make the most of what you’ve got, so if you’re a 50+ guy maybe you lift weights and dress better, and if you can’t get the 25-year old women you can accept 35- or even 45-year olds (of course the younger ones are more desirable). Unhealthy is delusion that leaves you worse off, like the middle-aged women who double down on the picky, entitled behavior of their youth and refuse to engage in honest self-evaluation.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 9:30 pm Rum

        My girl friend is about 30 years younger than I am..It works largely because 1. I am apparently fascinating to be around and 2. she makes her decisions on the basis of what her voices are telling her to do. And her inner voices like me… a lot.

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 2:35 pm cheesetrader

      As a member of the fat right tail, #1 yes, #2 don’t care #3 don’t care.

      I would agree with your assessment about an age looking more attractive as we advance past that. I’m sure when I’m say 70, 59 will look “more attractive” than it does now – note that this is not the same as saying “I find 59 yo women highly attractive”.

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      • on July 15, 2014 at 3:03 pm Skinner

        CH, we’re singing from the same hymn sheet. Only reason I don’t chase teen skirt is because my kid who’s that age would be pissed at me. So I keep that for SE Asia. But I’m happy with 20 somethings up to well-preserved mid 30s, women who I wouldn’t have looked at two decades ago. Partly this is because now I know more and I know how easy they are to bed. Partly this is because I just think it would be unseemly to go younger than my own offspring (at least in this country.) One thing I’m not doing is looking at wall-beaten beeyatches anywhere near my own age. Like cheesetrader, I expect when I’m 70, some of those 40 somethings might look tasty enough to me. Not as tasty as an 18 year old, sure. But tasty enough.

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  92. on July 15, 2014 at 2:08 pm the judge

    Aaah this guys a cunt. Take her out plan a trip etc then fucking tell her that shit?

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    • on July 15, 2014 at 3:48 pm Gro Haila

      What?

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    • on July 16, 2014 at 2:20 pm OlayDave

      They let you out for this?????

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  93. on July 15, 2014 at 5:41 pm stuttie

    @ Darius – “hysterical bonding” is exactly what it was. This also happened to a buddy of mine (and the last person I thought would cheat) just recently. He’s been with his wife since they were teenagers, now 36, married, 2 young kids, new mortgage etc

    Stay with me on this one…..6 months ago he turns up on my doorstep one Sunday morning after he and his wife had an anniversary night out in a fancy hotel. He falls asleep with his phone unlocked and gets a text message from a HB8+ from his old work that he has been having a 3 month affair with. Wife sees text and goes ballistic. At this point I should mention the wife is 5’3 fat HB3 at best…he is a 7+ so huge SMV disparity. I should also mention she is the main breadwinner and he was relegated to daddy day care.

    Turns out the HB8+ he was having hot monkey sex with was about to get married to Mr beta-bucks. And they were fucking right up until her wedding day (which he attended) smirking at her as she walked down the isle. The icing on the wedding cake was at the after-wedding-party she drove him home and gave him a blowjob – on her wedding night – before beta bucks even had the chance to consummate the marriage lol

    When all this happened, he was beta so he was panicking about what was going to happen. I unplugged him over the course of that Sunday and he was red pill enough to at least go back holding Frame rather than being an apologetic wimp that begged for forgiveness.

    He reported back immediate major “hysterical bonding” – which I told him that would happen. We’re talking anal sex, spontaneous kitchen sex, possible threesome sex etc etc…….6 months later this is still happening.

    Women definitely need to know that their Man can pull other women. Pre selection is very powerful. I always make sure I parade my current women around in front of other potential targets – works a charm.

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  94. on July 15, 2014 at 8:07 pm Anon82

    No, Carly Fiorina is not fuckable, sorry;

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    • on July 16, 2014 at 2:19 pm OlayDave

      1+++++

      Well, maybe…….. if the wire cleared before she took off the paperbag and her clothes…..

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  95. on July 15, 2014 at 9:17 pm Separating Values |

    […] aware of it already since this story is making the rounds in the manosphere; Return of Kings and Chateau Heartiste were predictably first to the punch. Please do, at the very least, skim through these posts […]

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  96. on July 15, 2014 at 10:09 pm Bluepillprofessor

    Doesn’t anybody think OP could have displayed a little less honesty? That was damn near psychopathic honesty and what was accomplished?

    @Darius- yes to everything. Hang in there brother our stories are similar. The DREAD is your friend. You don’t actually have to cheat. Just get into a position where you COULD cheat and I almost guarantee it will all change. That is the missing piece you did not get from MMSL. But yah, doesn’t always work.

    To many others: Screw off, my wife is as beautiful as the day we married 20+ years ago.

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    • on July 16, 2014 at 2:07 pm Anonymous

      Oooooh! Marriage goggles, thick they are on this one!

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    • on July 20, 2014 at 8:52 pm gunslingergregi

      a hard neg and he owns her now whats the problem he he he

      maybe her pussy smelled like fried refried and then fried enchiladas with shit all over em
      ever seen a piece of bad pussy?
      ever had a bitch with a piece of bad pussy beg you to fuck
      are you guys the ones that think all pussy is the same cause you only had one or two?

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  97. on July 16, 2014 at 7:58 am Sparks

    Jesus I just googled Robin Korth. I wouldn;t want to see that naked either, even if I was 55. ‘Prune’ is a very apt metaphor.

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  98. on July 16, 2014 at 9:18 am Bluepillprofessor

    There is honesty, and then discretion. Brutal ‘honesty’ like this is just a passive aggressive and a cruel assault. Perhaps OP’s intention was to demonstrate how Dark Triad looks in operation? This seems like something a woman would do- I slept in bed with you, I led you on for several nights but no, I didn’t ever intend to have sex with because you are fat/ugly/dirty/smelly/stupid and/or unworthy of my golden pussy.

    As least in the female example it would be cruel but might also give the chode a chance to improve himself. What was accomplished by telling this woman the truth?

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    • on July 16, 2014 at 9:30 am thwack

      agreed.

      the entire scenario sounds very bitch made and vaginal.

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  99. on July 16, 2014 at 10:16 am Gro Haila

    “waht was accomplished”?

    Something was accomplished. But it was too little and too late. And a clear lesson for bystanders, too – the hamster needs a stern handler, always.

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  100. on July 16, 2014 at 11:54 pm Buns n Buns

    Zombie’s 1st follower I guess.. only, he’s all the way over in Pockistan 😉

    http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/conjugally-happy-father-of-36-and-husband-of-three-says-he-still-has-desires-to-fulfil/article1-1241285.aspx

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  101. on July 17, 2014 at 10:15 am Aquila

    The only way for women to avoid this fate is to marry a good man young, to give up the career and BS and start a family in her prime. Then, she will have earned the loyalty of a man, because she gave him her best years, and she will have her children and the pride of being a good mother as a crowning achievement rather than a stupid wall plaque from some firm and some material possessions she hardly has the time to use between feeling lonely and working.

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  102. on July 22, 2014 at 4:36 am Emma the Emo

    Why did he date her in the first place if he liked young chicks? Was he trying to settle?

    But actually, perhaps he thought her body would look young under her clothes. Because sometimes, the body skin looks much better than the facial skin, because the body isn’t exposed to the sun as much.

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  103. on July 22, 2014 at 5:24 am Emma the Emo

    If this is a true story, then the guy sounds socially retarded and well-intentioned (or maybe just Asian). I remember when I was a teenager I was about to tell one girl that she should eat less because it was unhealthy, and really mean it in a helpful way. I’m glad I didn’t tell her that. There is little else more annoying than those kind of advisers. In our culture, they are usually just passive-aggressive assholes. Maybe in Korea, saying “You’re getting fat, lose weight” is normal and culturally accepted, but in the West it will be taken as a sign of veiled hostility for a reason.

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