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The Value Of White American Men In The Overseas Sexual Market

July 25, 2014 by CH

The sexual market is not unlike the stock market; information bottlenecks are exploited by insiders for fun and profit. One such bottleneck is the value of white American men in foreign sexual markets. Because a man’s SMV is more contextual than a woman’s SMV, and because men’s romantic attractiveness is dependent upon multiple variables, including non-physical ones such as social status and charisma, it can be expected that a man will have different value to women in different parts of the world. Where his value is relatively highest is where he has the best chance of making sweet love to beautiful women.

MindFucked (priceless handle) performed an experiment to determine his value to the Unpolluted (non-American women).

Want hard evidence on your SMV in different countries around the world? Want to see what women in different countries REALLY look like and practice text game with them? Want to become even more disgusted with American women? Maybe you’re making a trip in a couple weeks and want to prep the field so you have willing sex partners as soon as you arrive.

Download a smartphone emulator. Bluestacks is my favorite. When you’re running it, go to the app store and download Tinder (the smartphone dating app) and a fake GPS application which will allow you to trick Tinder into thinking you’re anywhere in the world.

Put up a few photos of yourself, start swiping right, and wait for the results to pour in.

If you’re a white man, try doing this in Asia. It’s truly hilarious. China blocks Tinder so it doesn’t work there, but it works in every other Asian country.

While I can neither confirm nor deny if I’ve been to Moscow, reports from fellow world travelers give credence to the rumors: There is so much pulchritudinous street-strutting there that an American man unused to it will have his heart melt and crotch explode. And yet, vanishingly few American men trek to this magical Vaghalla. Why?

If this GPS-spoofing Tinder trick to gauge overseas female interest is revealing a huge pent-up demand for white American men in Eurasia, and the quality on offer in those faraway lands puts to shame America’s snotty, classless chubsters, then why aren’t more men moving to where the ass is leaner? Homo economicus is baffled.

Human nature is a tricky dick. Simple inertia explains a lot of inefficiencies in the sexual market. Most people prefer to envy good fortune from their couches than to move to where good fortune is within reach. Self-doubt explains more. American men might not believe they have a shot with beautiful foreign women because they are negatively conditioned by their effortful experiences with uninspiring American shrikes. They lack imagination.

Then, too, there is an innate desire, to greater or lesser intensity in each person, for a connection to blood and soil and kin. Our American women might be fat, entitled and unfeminine, but goddammit they’re *our* women.

Finally, we shouldn’t neglect the possibility that there are inherited ethnic dispositions towards one’s own representative women. Some white American men won’t find Asian girls, even the universally attractive ones who adhere to the golden ratio, very desirable. Russian girls, despite their legendary beauty, do tend to sport distinctive jutting chins, chiclet teeth, and broad faces that may not appeal to non-Russian whites.

I believe the reasons above, plus travel costs and unawareness of better options, account for most of the sexual market inefficiency in pairing up valuable white American men with pretty foreign girls who want them. For those waiting for the lid to blow off this underserved market, you’ll be waiting a long time.

Expat Americans like Roosh catch a lot of flack from envious haters, who smear his motives as those of a “sex tourist” who must “go overseas to score desperate peasant pussy”. But, what Roosh has done is what entrepreneurs throughout American history have done: Read the teat leaves, smartly calculate what’s in his best interest, take a huge risk, and create new markets that redound to his broadest (heh) advantage. How many American men have the cohones to uproot themselves and plant a flag in a strange land for a shot at a brighter life? It’s something white Europeans used to do all the time, and were proud of it.

The hate felt toward guys like Roosh is percolating envy, but it’s also something else: People hate reminders of their cowardice. Cowardice, perhaps, is the fundamental motivation that permits the continuance of this particular sexual market inefficiency.

The upscale demand is there, White American Man. Will you fill it?

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  1. on July 25, 2014 at 12:08 pm Richard

    I think it’s that they’re conditioned to think that there’s something wrong with going overseas. Look at how many white American men have internalized feminism, it’s easily 40%, probably more. Probably more so among those who have the means to go overseas. To these guys, if they are unattractive to women, it must be something wrong with the men themselves, it can’t be that the women are horrible. That’s the message that they get from the school system, media, etc.

    There’s a way to meet Asian chicks, both American and foreign born, while still having the comforts of home though. Just get a job or enroll at UCLA or Berkeley.

    I’ve dated a lot of foreign Asian chicks, and trust me, overall, they are superior. They can be boring though. They won’t like the same shows as you, or read the same websites, or be interested in the same politics. But whatever, that’s what male friends and internet websites like this are for.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm BraveAtheistGirl

      Wont like the dame shows. Gosh dont we live in the era of globalization. Before internet i could only watch mainly American or mexican tv shows, and some japanese animation, but since then i have watched at least 1 tvseries or film from: China ,United kingdom, Spain ,India ,south korea, Taiwán ,philippines ,thailand, turkey ,brazil, argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Colombia.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:01 pm Joachim Peiper

        So now you watch multi-lingual stupidity?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 9:53 pm BraveAtheistGirl

        What?

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm burke

      female race-shaming happens plenty, it might bother some people.. i’ve dated in eastern europe and asia and in both instances they got (from women) the ‘mail order bride’ comments. or ‘those are fake, i’m asian too i should know’ or whatever. from guys you generally get ‘when can i go’

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:51 pm nomad

        Were you getting that kind of flak while you were overseas with the local people or only here in the states when you brought them home? Assuming you brought them to the states, that is.
        I wouldn’t think the local women overseas would be saying that kind of thing since they want white men too. That would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:02 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      heatsistetztz!!! i found a spleleing errorsz and corrected itz!!!

      Human nature is a tricky dick. Simple inertia explains a lot of inefficiencies in the sexual market. Most people prefer to envy good fortune from their COOOCHES (of their fatz grilfferrindz zlzlzoo) than to move to where good fortune is within reach.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:28 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlzoozoozoozoz

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        and children would grow up

        with fathers
        if Dalrock/Boxer/et al.
        didn’t spend day after day
        preaching and teaching that
        Christ came to abolish the Law of Moses
        preaching and teaching that
        words have no intrinsic meaning
        and can mean anything
        at any time while seeking

        instalanches over Honor.

        preaching and teaching that

        the Great Books for Men
        are mere fairy tails
        sans meaning, nobility, and Honor
        preaching and teaching that
        men must learn game
        so as to serve da womenz butt and gina tingzlzlzozo
        instead of serving Moses, God, and Jesus
        and teaching their women to do the same
        preaching and teaching that
        MArcuse and the Frankfartians freudian frankfurters
        are greater than Christ and Homer
        preaching and teaching, like Cosmo Mag, that
        men must learn to serve women’s butt and ginz tziznzgzlzzolzozloz
        instead of restoring their homes, schools, and churches
        via the manly soul soul of Moses, Jesus, Homer, and Jefferson
        exalting the classical soul in contemporary institutions
        so that courts no longer destroyed families
        but instead served god instead of da dalrockian/boxerian gina tinzgzlzlzozo
        Imagine how many more families
        would stay together
        Imagine how many Fathers would see their children
        if Dalrock/Boxer/et al.
        didn’t spend day after day
        preaching and teaching that men must learn
        to treat women like dogs, rather than teaching
        men to rise up beyond their baser natures and desires
        and truly follow Christ and Moses and Odysseus and Achilles
        and live for exalted Honor
        rather than cutting down the faith of their fathers
        and deconstructing, attacking, belittling
        castigating and impugning
        the GReat Books for Men.
        lzozozollzolzozl

        zlozozlzlzozzo
        http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/07/25/slow-your-roll/

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:46 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      zlozozozozo

      yah man feel free to use it all anywhere lzozlzolzzoz i thk the matrix post would be funny in digital animation:

      http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2010/05/27/i-can-show-you-the-way-neo-but-you-will-have-to-walk-it-zlozlzlzozzlozlzlzo/

      alos one cock rule would rock as a animated rap:

      OMG both of you betado9uches above are violating THE ONE COCK RULE!!!

      You are alloowing chix to bring other COCKS into your mind lozlzlzzoz zlozllzl. The second a chick makes me think of another cock she is outta my house outta my mind or if she’s texting on a date which almost never happens because i almost never date i go “i gotta use the men’s room lzozlzl” and then i leave her with the bill. she can text her ten other cocks to comne over and pay for her drniks/dinner lzozlzlzllzlzlz and then,. after paying, they have full right to gizizizizizalizzz all over her lzozlz

      “I’ve been seeing this girl for a year. We live together and I’ve still got hand.”

      OMG lzozzlzll wtf are fuckity fucks doing with chix in your homes? lzozlzlzlz omg lozlzlzlzlzl looozers lzozlzlzlz1!! hzhzh

      THEY VIOLATE THE ONE COCK RULE THEY ARE OUT! OUT!

      OUT!

      O U T OUT! lzozlzlzl

      OMG lozlzlzozlozozolzl wft r u doing dating a chick 4 a yer did your dick fall off? Were yu chosen by Beernanke and given an award and medal to support today’s slutty slutt vampiressses cuckholders cockcutters?

      sounds 2 me it is the latter as u have no cock lzozlzlzlzl lzzozl

      and she made you think of another cock

      fucktard haven’t u heard of the one cock rule?

      let’s teach these douches somethin ’bout nbein a man yo!

      throw a beat over this way.
      yo yo yo yo
      yo yo yo

      now hit it!

      one cock rule one cock rule
      i ain’t no beta fool i ain’t no beta tool
      about another cock ya make me think
      i’m gone, yo bitch,
      let the betas buy yas yer next drink

      one cock rule one cock rule
      i ain’t no beats fool i ain’t no beta tool
      over vampires and werewolfe you ginas all drool
      letting their cocks touch your deep down stool
      then you blame the betas in school
      and transfer wealth for the bernanke gene pool
      jonah goldberg sends our alphas 2 die on foreign shores
      stuffing his face with dc pizza as they die in fiat wars
      neocon womenz repeating butthexers lies in their mags
      even after menopause and no need for da ragz
      telling young chickas to lust after vampires
      as they build their fiat empires

      one cock rule one cock rule
      i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
      about another cock ya make me think
      i’m gone, yo bitch,
      let the betas buy yas yer next drink

      let the betas pay to raise your bastard kids
      let the betas sign teh fiat masters marriage contracts
      theft in fiat inflation is hid
      as they swing their bankrupting axe
      i don’t care what last night u did,
      ever since i kicked ya gina out, i been relaxed.

      as they promote butthex across the land
      ripping out fetuses from parenthood planned
      as fathers form teh homes the neocons ban
      the atalnatic authoresses just don’t undertsand

      but when chix wakes up and her butt is sore
      it’s not my fault no–it’s cause she’s a whore
      as the fiat masters desoul women with butthex cock
      teach them to transfer wealth with pre-teen strumpet rock

      one cock rule one cock rule
      i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
      about another cock ya make me think
      i’m gone, yo bitch,
      let the betas buy yas yer next drink

      womenz womenz bernanke took advanatge of you
      you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
      and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
      stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”

      and aging neocon women promoting butthexing vampires
      teacxhing women to lust after the undead
      as the neocons suck the western world dry
      bankrupting it all,m enlsaving it debt
      while selfish womenz at the atalnatic monthly
      cry cry cry
      cry cry cry
      not for you or me
      but for themselves
      not for the 50,000,000 aborted souls
      but for their dried up ginas and sore assholes
      so many chances they had to marry a nice guy
      but he left her dry
      so whe butthexed with the asshole
      and now see her cry
      and wonder why
      and transofrm the entire univeristy
      into a program to further the fiat lie
      to transfer wealth and wage war and death
      to about fifty million more
      and redefine fifty cocks in her ass as empowered
      and not a whore

      all together now!

      lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
      lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
      lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

      one cock rule one cock rule
      i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
      about another cock ya make me think
      i’m gone, yo bitch,
      let the betas buy yas yer next drink
      alreayd seen yer pink stink
      bent ya over the sink

      and howscomes the bankers southpark never does satarize
      because everything is fair game–truth love honor–excpet for fiat butthexing lies.

      all together now!

      lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
      lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
      lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

      AND THREE COCK RULE:

      ^^^^ to the 24 for or so tardbetadouches who voted my “one cock rule” rap down

      lozlzlzlzlozzllzlzlzlz

      what do ya want?

      a two cock rule rap?

      or three cock rule?

      three cock rule, three cock rule,
      i’m a beta herb my own cock won’t do
      i need a chick to cuckold me
      i need a chick on me to pee
      three cock rule, three cock rule,
      i love being the greater fool
      one cock in her mouth, one in her anus,
      i keep mine in my pants,
      and pay her bills and rent and fare for da bus.
      so she can club and grind, on denim cocks dance.
      three cock rule, three cock rule,
      i treat my lady like a nice guy,
      give her chivarly while with 2 others she doth lie,
      three cock rule, three cock rule,
      while your cock doth touch her stool,
      i play videogames @ home in my single mom’s basement,
      as teh fed fianance feminsits studies @ school,
      teaching her to love and bail out the butthexers,
      to persucte me 4 letting her live 4 free,
      while she tickles drummer/druggie cock until it goes
      splooge splooge splooge! tee hee tee hee!
      three cock rule, three cock rule,
      i’m the beta herb, teh cuckholded fool,
      i respect her, keep my cock in my pants,
      fund her with other cocks to dance.

      lozlzlzlzl

      or would u betaherbs prefer a five cock rule rap! omg i bet someofya would like dat! lzozl

      lzozozozo

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:47 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozzzo

      lzozozoozozoz

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  2. on July 25, 2014 at 12:08 pm little spoon

    Yeah, Anglosphere men are probably the world’s hottest. British, Australian and American are all about equally attractive though individual women may have a preference within that. Other northern european guys are really close – dutch guys are easily as attractive and scand guys too.

    I think American guys probably do well in Latin america, where there are few traditional barriers to inter ethnic dating.

    I only date white guys myself now. Easily done where white american guys are the majority.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:18 pm Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh… we’ve come full circle, with the little spoons of the world clamouring:

      “WHERE DA WHAAAYT MEN AT?”

      lzozlzozlzozlzozlozlzolzozlozl

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm The Spirit Within

      Yep.

      As a tall blonde-haired/blue-eyed American guy, I’ve already got 50 phone numbers/Skype addresses of South American women … just from one dating site. It’s like shooting empanadas in an oven, and the quality is unbelievable. The most gorgeous one is opening her family’s home to me, and I’m not even going to arrive until September.

      Vaghalla, indeed. This post was dead on.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:41 pm burke

        i don’t read roosh, but is there any feeling of guilt at all with blasting into foreign (unspoiled) women? not trying to be a pussy, but for ourselves, knowing these aren’t american whores– if you’re blowing in and blowing out and then women are sincere, does it affect you negatively?

        one man’s twinge of guilt can become, for a wuss like me, obligation and unintended ltr.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm burke

        background to that pussiness above of mine– had a girl that was a japanese national attempt suicide after our breakup, no idea how convincing it was because i cut off all contact with everyone as soon as i heard, but she was an innocent and was also very kind. for me some foreigners can almost be _too_ into it.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm blindman

        you’ve restored my faith in humanity man. thinking like that isn’t being a pussy. that’s how men are supposed to think. maybe when all these boys finally grow up they’ll see it the same way. we can only hope.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm The Spirit Within

        Please control your steed, o white knight. Most foreign women are playing us just as hard, except it’s for money and social status. Later, it’s for citizenship or light-skinned babies.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm Zombie Shane

        > “tall blonde-haired/blue-eyed American guy”

        Since when were jews tall, blonde-haired/blue-eyed, or American?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:04 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… if memory serves, he claims to be a Catholic… he just plays the Jew at the chateau.

        I believe him… at least a Jew doesn’t hit a dating site to troll South America.

        Stay tuned for his field report from Venezuela and Chile… white boys on poon patrol are always welcomed into the homes of the finest families. :duckface:

        Gringo pursues, hilarity ensues.

        lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzozlozl

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:01 am Zombie Shane

        Unless he’s got sephardic blood in him, and he’s descended from the jews who ran the slave trade and the sugar plantations in the Carribean and Brazil.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:08 pm The Spirit Within

        There is a medication for anti-Semitic obsession, Zombie. It’s known as getting a life.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 10:29 pm corvinus

        Heh, heh… if memory serves, he claims to be a Catholic… he just plays the Jew at the chateau.

        You may be thinking of Sweetheart Jason. I’m not sure this one ever claimed to be Catholic.

        Either way, if he really is a white man, he’s a dumbass.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:21 am The Spirit Within

        Funny, but this is the only website where I can get called a “dumbass” and a “race betrayer” for simply saying that you should treat every human the way you would like to be treated yourself.

        A Christian message, BTW.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:57 pm ho

      Since when are noerthern Euros superior to medterrean men?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:06 pm Greg Eliot

        Since Brazil about two weeks ago?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:55 pm Lucius Somesuch

        Gooaall!!

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:58 am wolfie65

        Based on my experiences with Latin culture, they are FIERCELY tribal and do NOT like White guys. Brad Pitt excepted, of course.
        Sigue a los nuestros, et.al.
        Brazil might be a little different, but Argentinians tend to be VERY full of themselves. Buenos Aires seems to be Latin America’s version of NYC.
        Trips to Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador and parts of Mexico not recommended at this time, since they have taken L.A. gang culture to a whole new level.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:39 am Greg Eliot

        Right you are…

        Quick example:

        Venezuela’s government is pretty much the equivalent of gang culture, to the extend that they couldn’t even organize and field a proper team to quality for the World Cup, while even little Central American backwaters are getting their act together… at least to that extent.

        And when the govt is that vercackt, you can imagine what the streets are like.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:41 am Mistral

        DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:05 pm The Spirit Within

        Wolfie, hate to break it to you, but pretty much everybody in Buenos Aires IS white. 80% of the population is of Italian or Spanish descent.

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  3. on July 25, 2014 at 12:11 pm The Value Of White American Men In The Overseas Sexual Market | Manosphere.com

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  4. on July 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm Anonymous

    I can’t help but notice that Roosh doesn’t seem all that happy. Witness this video: http://www.rooshv.com/the-one-thing-i-hate-about-life?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    It would seem to me that his techniques work to get him laid, but that the “hedonic treadmill” is doing its dirty work to keep him about as happy as he would be under any reasonably normal circumstance.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:15 pm CH

      roosh would need to ask himself if he’d have been happier staying in the US than going overseas. if not, then his current complaints, however valid, need to be put in perspective.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:24 pm Anonymous

        Is that really a question that Roosh (or anybody) can really answer? First of all, the need for self justification will bias the response. Second, knowing what the counterfactuals would have been given different life choices is impossible. Third the hedonic treadmill is what it is. Perhaps it would be comforting to have the consolation that one would be happier given the achievement of some dream rather than to actually achieve that dream and still be unhappy? Fourth, there is good evidence that humans all center around some baseline of happiness, meaning that no matter what the conditions, temporary excitements, setbacks, etc. are just that: temporary. In the long run, individuals gravitate back to their baseline of happiness.

        So, I can only go by how happy Roosh appears in his videos (especially this one). The answer: I’ve seen happier.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:23 pm newlyaloof

        Roosh is just like 99% of the “middle easternish” dudes I’ve known in my entire life. Overall, the dudes just are not as happy and smiley as most other people. Seriously, watch most middle easterners/ muslims on television. Looks like they don’t even know how to smile. I think they have the depression gene or something (Asians and Indians are the same way in my experience).

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:06 pm Kate

        If you’re going to be unhappy everywhere you go, you may as well be unhappy at home.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:17 pm little spoon

      When i think “American guy”, Roosh is decidedly not what comes to mind. What is he? Kurdish or something? He reeks of some primitive middle eastern culture. He’s just some guy that goes places to get laid. Not an American guy that goes elsewhere and cashes in on the appeal of American masculinity.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:21 pm CH

        “getting laid” = “cashing in”.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:24 pm little spoon

        I don’t doubt that he’s getting laid, but I am not really connecting it with his aura of americaness. He seems like some kurdish dude with game tactics that apparently work.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:30 pm CH

        i’m not interested in getting into the thickets with you about this, but his accent would surely give away his americanness instantly to foreigners.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm little spoon

        And Roosh is white? Srsly?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:55 pm little spoon

        I bet you’re an authentic American guy. Like looks like he could play football. Was raised with actual American values and mannerisms. Roosh is some f.o.b. turk that might, at best, benefit from being associated with the profile of a guy like you. Yeah, he has adopted the accent. But your ancestors are the reason the accent means anything. Lucky win for Roosh and me.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:04 pm K

        roosh is definitely not white in a woman’s eyes. doesn’t matter if he’s born and raised american. personally i wonder if he would have a much higher degree of success in the middle east, consistently getting 8/9s instead of the 6/7s he mentions, since he is not altogether unattractive.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm Cortesar

        Roosh is above all an intelligent and descent man which is rare among monkeys who call themselves pua or whatever
        It is only natural that a status whore of your kind does not like him,
        he represents something that is contrary to your nature the nature of a whore auctioning herself to highest bidder, no matter how despicable the highest bidder may be

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 7:37 pm FamilyMan

        So if he can do it, that should go double for American whiter men, right?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 11:16 pm bo jangles

        I met an African in Argentina claiming to be American..it has more pull. Of course he couldnt even speak English.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 10:05 am Ben

        Amazing, agree with “little spoon,” a woman, more than CH here.

        Roosh is a parasite Turk.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:22 pm Greg Eliot

      Money and sex can’t bring happiness… but they make misery far more tolerable.

      All seriousness aside, one of the greatest lessons you younger guys can learn is the difference between satisfiers and dissatisfiers…

      Money and sex are of the latter type, when not up to one’s desired lifestyle level… but can never truly be the former, even when in surfeit… indeed, especially when in surfeit.

      Think of it this way… even if you’re making a truckload of money in a job you hate, and/or you’re banging a bevy of babes who you don’t truly like or care about outside of the boudoir, you just won’t be happy.

      Trust me.

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      • on July 29, 2014 at 1:38 pm RealityBites

        You will be a hell of a lot happier than stuck in a sexless marriage with a parasitic bitch!!!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:57 pm whorefinder

      Roosh is a very high-level, thinker. He came to game because despite having a 1950s-beta success story (highly intelligent, good grades, good degree, polite, good career), he experienced the three things all of us red pillers have observed:

      1. He wasn’t rewarded with an attractive, loyal gf or casual sex.

      2. He was actually rejected by women because of his 1950s-beta success actions/accomplishments.

      3. He saw guys who did the OPPOSITE OF/DIFFERENT FROM his 1950s-beta actions getting attractive women to give them a lot of casual sex and even become obsessed/harem-esque.

      So he adapted, suing his extremely logical brain, to the circumstance. Not only did he adapt well, he noticed that, without the rewards of a 1950s-beta, the high-level corporate job was pretty much a drag. So he left it, and monetized is his knowledge of how to adapt.

      But Roosh was never a sexual deviant; he merely wanted the sexual reward that society promised men who behaved; it was never the end all for him. Now that he can get it and has experienced a multitude of fleeting sexual pleasures, he’s trying to find true fulfillment.

      The story is as old as time: once a man satisfies his sexual fantasies, he longs for something more. King David in the Bible wrote the Psalms that lament the fact that, despite having all the sexual fulfillment in the world as King, it was not enough for his soul. It was empty still.

      Roosh is like a man who was starving but now has a successful farm that will always give him good, delicious food that satiates him; he will never be hungry again. Now he has to move on from merely eating to nourishing his soul.

      Rape!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:10 pm The Stark Truth

        While I acknowledge Roosh is an ok writer he certainly is no Gamma. He goes out of his way to look like some scruffy omega you would see on a reality show on MTV or VH1even though he is somewhat more intelligent than they are.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:33 pm whorefinder

        Perhaps his image is a work. I am always open the possibility that I can be fooled; after all, as a recovering beta, I was fooled by the blue pill for a long time.

        However, I don’t believe he goes “out of his way” to look scruffy. I think he just realized that looks matter little in gaming women. In fact, in Bang, he devotes a few pages as to how earlier in his gaming career, he “improved” his looks, because, at the onset, it really helped, but, as time went on, his game was so advanced that he didn’t need to dress fashionably or style his hair to nail an 8-10.

        I don’t argue that he was ever a gamma; just a beta with a logical way of thinking closer to autistic than most of us, hence why he developed a systematic game plan based on rejection.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm AKA

        solid observation Whore

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 11:23 pm bo jangles

        Roosh is a good businessman but a mediocre player, plenty of cringeworthy photos of him on the internet. I’ve only ever seen one photo of him with a cute girl giving him attention. Anyways he is right about travel..you can date a couple of notches above what you are getting at home. And younger.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:54 am whorefinder

        mediocre? lol

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:07 am LP

        I don’t see that any of the listed qualities, ” highly intelligent, good grades, good degree, polite, good career” would designate someone as beta or as old fashioned. In fact, these are alpha qualities for the most part.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:54 am whorefinder

        um, no. clearly you haven’t read enough red pill stuff to get a clue.

        rape!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm The Stark Truth

      Anon the reason Roosh seems unhappy is because he chose to emulate the American omega that portrayed in Hollywood. A true alpha would look so scruffy and cover himself in tattoos.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:14 pm Whoa

      Your remarks are valid. Humans are in a constant state of deprivation, which begins at birth. We spend our entire lives trying to satisfy this deprivation, and every once in a while something really does it for us. But then this wanes as well and we’re back climbing up the mountain. Though as Roosh correctly said, reaching the top the first time is the best – it’s a theme that’s present in classic lit, the philosophers, the pessimists. However, sometimes we are lucky and find a new mountain to climb that can be even more rewarding, though these dwindle in numbers as one grows older, becoming harder and harder to find. Roosh will likely search for a new mountain, as the pursuit of woman is no longer rewarding enough. Bjorn Borg walked off the tennis court at 25 for this same reason. Mankind has been doing it for centuries.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:31 pm FamilyMan

      Your conclusion from that video is retarded. He’s a hell of a lot happier and more fulfilled (and accomplished) than if he were still wishing and wondering how to make it with girls.

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  5. on July 25, 2014 at 12:14 pm shaboney

    Very important to remember to leave them where you find them.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:31 pm FamilyMan

      What if you meet a keeper? I didn’t say a unicorn, but some of us do want to lead a family.

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  6. on July 25, 2014 at 12:15 pm Nepal

    Being unmarried/ childless makes travel unimaginably more convenient/affordable. Why more than 90% of American men still see marriage in their life plan remains baffling to me.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 1:03 pm everybodyhatesscott

      Some of us had healthy childhoods with married parents and two sets of married grandparents who still loved each other ’till death did them part’ It’s certainly stupid in this legal environment but I still see happily married couples popping out babies. There’s some decent girls out there, unfortunately, they’re really hard to find.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm Zombie Shane

        > “they’re really hard to find”

        Get to the Red States. Get to church. Get to cowboy bars. Go to music recitals. Follow high school bands and youth orchestras and high school sports. Get thee to flyover country. FLEE THE BLUE STATE DARKNESS!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:36 pm FamilyMan

      Traveling to meet girls is in no way inconsistent with marriage. You can marry them and stay there or marry them and come back here or marry them and move to some third country, the whole world is here for you to explore. And most of it is conducive to your healthy reproduction.

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  7. on July 25, 2014 at 12:16 pm Joachim Peiper

    I laugh at those chumps who try to dis me over going overseas for women. I refuse to be limited by fat, gum chewing brainless, cultureless American women. If they can’t handle it, that’s their problem. Don’t be a chump.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:42 pm Nepal

      I’ve given up on American bars- nearly every woman is:

      1) overweight
      2) heavily tattooed
      3) a smoker
      4) above 30

      (Very rare to find a bar chick who doesn’t fulfill at least 2 of the above criteria)

      In the clubs there seems to be an overall higher SMV among females. They might be far more difficult to pull but quality can be worth it.

      Haven’t traveled much myself – Which country(ies) are you visiting and just how much easier are the overseas chicks to pull? Do you modify your game to broadcast greater attainability? Do you purchase them drinks to galvanize interaction?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:59 pm whorefinder

        I’m glad more and more guys are admitting how uglifying tattoos are on women. I was sick of the betas for a while claiming that “tatoos are hot” and “tattoos make a girl seem normal and approachable.”

        Tatoo rape!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm Joachim Peiper

        I’m married now to a much younger Ukrainian woman. She’s just about everything most men dream of marrying. Before then, I roamed around mostly Northern and Eastern Europe. You don’t really need game as taught here. Be friendly, be yourself, be confident in yourself. Dress well. The women are natural and pleasant and since most are pretty, don’t have over sized egos. I recommend France, Germany, Poland, Ukraine. Cultural sophistication comes from being near so many different European cultures and a better education system. Most aren’t obnoxious feminists and can still cook at least a little bit. Feminism is there, but much less confrontational. My strong preference is for Eastern Europe, especially Ukraine. My wife teaches college and is easily one of the prettiest women on campus of any age.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm Kgaard

        I second Joachim on the northern and eastern European women. They are as advertised. Ditto on the anti-tattoo views. They are revolting to me. Instant dealkiller.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:12 pm Greg Eliot

        Fats, tats, and brats…

        In the immortal words of First Mommy:

        JUST… SAY…. NO!

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 12:37 am Adamastor

        To Joachim who recommends France, it is clear that you have never set a foot there or spent your time in segregated areas full with tourists. The French girls are the most dumb, superficial and over-entitled chicks I’ve ever met. Take a walk around Paris, every single 3 thinks she’s a ten.
        Dating North or East European tourists in France is cool. Dating French girls, just no way. They might not be as fat as their American counterpart but the kneegro-like princess attitude is an immediate deal breaker.

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  8. on July 25, 2014 at 12:20 pm mindweapon

    I became highly proficient in Russian language in 1990-1992 with the intent of emigrating to Russia permanently. Instead, Russia immigrated to me, and I went from 4s and 5’s to 7’s and 8’s.

    You don’t need to go to Russia. Just go to immigrant communities where they haven’t learned English yet. I met my Russian wife here in the USA, but my ability to speak her lingo was what made me “good enough.”

    When you are proficient in her language, she thinks you’re a genius and a hero and her parents even approve. The badboy shit is not needed at all. Learning Russian was a master stroke for a beta boy like me.

    As an aside, I learned Russian mostly from Jewish immigrants from Russia and Ukraine, and Pat Buchanan style racial nationalism was very common among them. they regarded Western liberalism as a mortal threat. see the movie Defamation — it shows Russian Jews scoffing at the whole idea of anti-semitism. Those were the exact kind of people who taught me Russian, and primed me for our current politics.

    Anyway, good luck learning Russian! get the Pimsleur audio. it’s the best. 45 hours. make sure you have access to native speakers of Russian before you start out, otherwise it’s pointless.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:27 pm Greg Eliot

      There’s an old Norse proverb along the lines of, after skill at arms, the best thing a man can cultivate is the ability to communicate with strangers.

      In a more recent vein, Goethe remarked “Whoever does not speak a foreign language can’t possibly understand his own.”

      Learn a second (or even third) language, guys… target your desired ethnic type… although for future economic opportunities in what is to become of America, the pat answer is invariably Spanish.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:38 pm mindweapon

        I have the idea of “language nannies.” When you have children, you hire elderly women who are native speakers of the target language to sit with your kids. They don’t have to do any work — no cleaning, no feeding, no diaper changing. Just sit and play with the kids (NO TV!), play with them, their blocks or their dolls or their matchbox cars, and speak to them in their native language. The kids might not get a big vocab, but they’ll be able to communicate in that language UNACCENTED.

        There’s a Chinese private school in Silicon Valley. My former violin teacher was teaching there, and he said he found it extremely disconcerting how these little white kids were speaking Putonghua like native Chinese. Who’s conquering whom, was what this made him think.

        My daughter speaks Russian. Her mother and grandmother were her language nannies. She wants to do the same for her kids, but not just Russian. Russian, CHinese and Spanish.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:39 pm Zombie Shane

        > “Spanish” But even there, these suicidal SWPL nihilist fools don’t realize that the overwhelming majority of these new DEM voters speak pre-literate languages, like Nahuatl and Mixtec and Zapotec – not Spanish.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm Greg Eliot

        Could be true, but mass communication with the hoi polloi wasn’t what I was talking about…

        Amongst the multifarious varieties of Hispanics whose company we now (ahem) enjoy in this country, many of the machers speak a decent Spanish.

        And even if you never get to read Don Quixote in the original, even those renegade erstwhile Aztec and Toltec street sweepers will be able to understand actual Spanish, if they’re here in the USA.

        I’ve already seen it on the few job sites I’ve had dealings on… the boss Spaniard couldn’t get but half of what the peons were yapping on about during their break… but when he gave them their marching orders for the day, they understood.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:39 pm Lara

      If I were dating a foreign man, I would prefer he speak his native language, even if I didn’t understand what he was saying.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:02 pm wolfie65

      Pimsleur’s good, Aeroflot stewardesses are better.

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    • on July 27, 2014 at 8:46 am Reco

      @mindweapon, Is that really an option? Are there realistically a large number of Eastern European expatriates in the US? If so what part of the US are they? I have heard of an area of NJ that has a large Russian community. But no others.

      I know the s. Fla. area is full of beautiful Latinas from all over S. America.

      Did you just stumble onto yours or where you targeting a specific area?

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  9. on July 25, 2014 at 12:22 pm Zombie Shane

    My relevant thoughts from poolside: 1) It is stunning how much more beautiful the White race is than every other race put together [times positive infinity at that]: Jews, Gooks, Cow-Worshippers, Chimpanzees, Armadillos – they all look like animals compared to White people.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:24 pm Zombie Shane

      2) I am seeing a very disturbing trend where the Chinese children in America are being raised to be every bit the monsters that the Jewish children are raised to be. Chinese parents and their children seem to think [just like the Jews] that rules and regulations and standards are silly quaint myths to which only White people pay fealty. Very very disturbing.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm Zombie Shane

        3) It is shocking how quickly I have morphed into a face man and a skin man. If an otherwise fairly well-preserved MILF is showing signs of leathering of the skin, then it’s an immediate “Next!” And even with the teenagers – if I see them from behind in their bikinis and they look like HB7+ material, but then they turn around and have HB4/HB5 faces, then it’s “Nope, ain’t gonna risk a Statutory on that one. Next!”

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm everybodyhatesscott

        be. Chinese parents and their children seem to think [just like the Jews] that rules and regulations and standards are silly quaint myths to which only White people pay fealty.

        On the bright side, the Chinese will battle it out with the Jews for preferential treatment. Probably not a good idea for a country but it’ll make for some decent schadenfreude.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… a decent schadenfreude… heh, heh.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:46 pm Cortesar

        Like Jews,Chinese are modern barbarians, where they pass no trace of beauty and nobility remains
        And that more of less means everywhere

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:56 pm FamilyMan

        Having traveled a bit and having a truly diverse group of good friends, I have learned that Americans are anomalous in the world in their innocent reliance on legality. A legal approval is neither necessary nor sufficient for success. Life is a game, and pretty much everyone but Americans (and close substitutes like Canadians and Australians) knows it. We’re probably the only country that makes it illegal for our citizens to bribe foreign officials — heck that’s the way business is done in most countries.

        And so it’s not just asians, but blacks, hispanics and anyone else but a subset of whites takes regulations as one factor in their decision making process rather than a sort of god they worship.

        Wise up before all your stuff gets ripped off. Serious advice. It’s not ill will toward the whites, as much as not even knowing (or disbelieving) that the white people are so trusting of a system.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 11:11 pm Lucius Somesuch

        You would think the Brahmin chicks would be more the Jewish dudes’ speed: they share a taste for kitsch, cringeworthy extroversion (bad dancing, ethnic-y celebrations), endlessly overelaborated mystical esoterica, parade-ground intellectualism (recitation, spelling bees). And of course, the Brahmin class in India pretty much has realized the Jewish eschatological ideal at the microcosmic level of a mere continent: a tiny, haughty racist elite presiding over groveling throngs downtrodden forever in a world of shit.

        Sun People should stick with Sun People, and the Semites are Sun People too. Bad, bad dancing.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:31 am Anthony

        @Cortesar

        “Like Jews,Chinese are modern barbarians, where they pass no trace of beauty and nobility remains.”

        Just so you know, I’m stealing this.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:11 am Zombie Shane

        You guys are working your way very close to where I’m almost at: Biological Calvinism. Most people just don’t seem to have it in their genes to be of an essentially kind or honorable or honest or noble character. The more I observe of these other races, the more I feel like Calvin anticipated Darwin in that most folk just don’t seem to have the genes for morality or spirituality or salvation.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:02 pm Matthew

        Rules are for whites.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm Greg Eliot

      Snarky darky to post picture of CigStash in 3…. 2…. 1….

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 1:07 pm Zombie Shane

      Heartiste – I was saying on another recent thread that the libtarded nihilists are rapidly devolving into a separate species – and from your point of view in this essay, it would be akin to considering the Red States to be an entirely different nation from the Blue States, if not an entirely different civilization altogether.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm CH

        persistent and intense cultural separation will eventually create genetic separation. i wouldn’t be surprised at all if rural and SWPL whites diverge in the future into distinct ethnies. that is, if SWPLs don’t demographically collapse before then.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:18 pm Kgaard

        Shane … So I am in your geographic target zone and see a flaw in your logic: The problem is that DC sucks in the talent, leaving the rural areas you describe as pretty much 85-IQ lands for women over, say, 27. What you describe may hold for college aged women and younger, but the model collapses after that. For instance, recently I was in Winchester VA and the young girls are cute but anyone over 21 is a disaster. It’s the usual — tattoos, obesity, bad fashion etc etc …

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm Zombie Shane

        Heartiste – I just don’t see how this hateful hateful hateful Darkness is going to procreate itself. Philip Longman hit the nail on the head – which of these women will almost certainly leave more of a lasting genetic imprint on the Tree of Life: Mrs Bill Clinton, who pushed out one live birth, or Mrs Antonin Scalia, who pushed out at least nine live births?

        http://newamerica.net/node/8092

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:52 pm Zombie Shane

        Existentialist – then hit the cowboy bars and the big evangelical mega churches in Arlington and Mclean and Reston. Or, further south, hit VMI and Sweet Briar and William and Mary and Charlottesville. Hell, sneak on down a little further south for some Salem College or Appalachian State action. INFINITE POONTANG!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:00 pm Zombie Shane

        I mean, shit damn, Lynchburg alone has both Liberty AND Sweet Briar. If you can’t get laid in Lynchburg, then you need think long and hard about what you’re doing wrong.

        Also way down at Elon College – I drove there for a Sarah Palin rally in 2008, and there was STAGGERING POONTANG at that place. Jaw dropping.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 1:10 pm Zombie Shane

      LIFO’ed, but out her in flyover country, we still have plenty of womynz who love men, love cock [really, really love it], love family life, and WANT to push out babies.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm Zombie Shane

        If you guys are in a Blue State sewer of nihilism, like Washington, DC, then head out into Red territory for a long weekend of golf and cocktails and hitting on every chick you meet – The Homestead in Hot Springs, VA, or the Hotel Roanoke in Roanoke, VA, or the Greenbrier in W.VA. Hit the local bars. Chat up all the womynz – ESPECIALLY THE WAIT STAFF.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:23 pm Zombie Shane

        This fall, when football season arrives, go tailgating at Red Schools, like VaTech and VMI and Annapolis. Maybe UVA, but the Darkness will be more powerful in Charlottesville. Hit on all the local Red State gals – THEY WANT YOUR COCK!!!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm Zombie Shane

        And before the summer ends – if you’re in D.C. – head down to Busch Gardens [and Water Country USA]. They bring in a ton of girls from all over Europe to work the summer season. If you can’t hit on a 19-year-old Polish beauty selling t-shirts at Busch Gardens, then you might as well call it quits and go get a sex change operation and become a eunuch.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:29 pm MZ

        True, but we also have more fatties it seems and the employment confinements (large cities) have their share SWPL types and welfare queens. But yeah, for the most part most women in FOC seem to start their families fairly young, even the ones who go to the brainwashing universities.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:32 pm Zombie Shane

        Finally, I am sure that there are similarly awesome destinations in rural Delaware, southern [agricultural] New Jersey, western Maryland, and up to the west of Philly, in rural PA – I just don’t know where they are. But I am quite confident that those destinations do exist, just waiting to be discovered by a horny fella looking for real women who want real cock between their legs.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:37 pm Zombie Shane

        MZ – hit the cowboy bars on Saturday night, and the big evangelical mega-churches on Sunday morning. MORE. POONTANG. THAN. YOU. CAN. SHAKE. A. STICK. AT.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:41 pm Zombie Shane

        You soft-atheist/soft-agnostic couch potatoes – who haven’t been to church in years – you have no earthly idea how much fine young tight horny trim is just waiting to have its bellies bloated with your babies, if only you’d get off your lazy asses and head to a big evangelical mega-church. POONTANG CITY!!!!!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:32 pm Greg Eliot

        Hence the term O Come All Ye Faithful.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:43 pm Zombie Shane

        Here’s another tip – when you’re in a resort town, and the female paying customers are too bitchy to talk to you, and you’re hitting up the wait staff instead, then ask them where they party once their shift is over. And then head there when the hotel bar scene starts to peter out.

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  10. on July 25, 2014 at 12:26 pm Arbiter

    It’s the same for all Western men, and it is even true at home: there are a lot of immigrant women who prefer the Western men. Fair-skinned, better looks than Arab, Indian, African trolls, and it makes them feel connected to the White race. Not to mention that men from their own nations tend to treat women (and each other if they can get away with it) like trash.

    Going to Third World countries you are exotic, someone from the Land of Plenty, the West that invented electricity, cars and movies. While Whites are told on a daily basis to be blind to Western accomplishments, Third Worlders are not blind to it. And you are a potential ticket out of the hellhole they live in.

    Yes, even an ugly, swarthy misfit like Roosh can leave his dead-end job opening and closing bottles for doctors in a lab and go to former communist countries and find some measure of success. Ugly as he is, they figure he must have some money since he says he’s from America. Failing that, he can just pay a woman to stand next to him in a picture and then write books to sell to the other swarthy losers back home. I always thought the tone at Return of Latin Kings was a little off, and then I realized it’s the bitterness of the man who isn’t getting any. While other manosphere sites point out the differences between men and women and back it up with research, at Roosh’s site it’s all “women be evil! they the enemy!” You can find some things of interest there, but you can find the same at other sites, without them being the mirror image of feminism.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:32 pm Arbiter

      Aside from his ugly looks, Roosh has in an unguarded moment admitted on his blog that he stinks to high heaven. He has a flood of sweat flowing from his armpits all day long, and it stinks like shit. He has to douse himself with industrial-strength alcohol and then a thick layer of baking soda to get a few hours of non-stench. Whattaya think, might there be some other reason why Western women don’t want to touch him with a ten-foot pole than “They all racist and feminist!”?

      His books about how successful he is with women in other countries are fictional mental masturbation and validation for omegas who like to think they are an excellent catch, it’s just the women around them who are wrong. No wonder his forum is mostly non-Whites wailing about “racism”, then followed by “You beat racism, get them White women anyway, you can do it, you’re great!”, then starting over again, endlessly.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm Amy

        Lol! It can’t be that bad or he wouldn’t get foreign women either. Most men have a great natural smell.

        I don’t read his blog, but maybe he’s bitter because he has to live abroad to get what he wants, and except for the women he’d prefer to live in the U.S. I’d be bitter about that too.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:06 pm CH

        he doesn’t sound bitter, he sounds sentimental. big difference. this word “bitter” gets thrown around too freely and disingenuously by a lot of cunts and manlets who want to drive a stake through their perceived boogeymen.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 1:08 pm whorefinder

        omg are you insane?

        Roosh went to foreign nations AFTER having success in the US. He was unsatisfied that there were so few hotties in DC. He was spoiled because, after gaining the keys to the pussy kingdom, he

        Roosh’s moment wasn’t “unguarded.” It was an article where he talked about anatural remedy to a problem. His website often goes there; like eating paleo, Roosh promotes an idea of not using expensive solutions when an easy, common solution will suffice. He solved his B.o. problem with baking powder. The point of the article was that his problem was solved!

        His books are solid, dependable game that will get any man laid. They’re a red pill in handy, instructional form. They’re not mystery, they’re common man.

        And this is from a dude Roosh hates because I’m a racist!!! Roosh’s anti-racist because he only wants to slay one dragon at a time, and that dragon is feminism. His writings, especially travel writings, display a keen awareness of racial differences; he just doesn’t want to alienate allies and make enemies on the race issues (yet). He keeps racists out to keep options open to kill off feminism.

        PA sockpuppet rape!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:23 pm The Stark Truth

        Lol.bitter? Do you think businessman who higher foreign workers are bitter? No they laughing to the bank.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:26 pm K

        though I don’t hate on roosh as much as Arbiter, I do agree with him that strains of bitterness come through roosh/rok writings, and some outright hatred that does mirror those on the feminist side. i imagine that rok has morphed into something roosh doesn’t micromanage, so i’m not going to hold all the writing there against him.

        the thing is, is that roosh isn’t white. he will not be mistaken for a white guy by a woman anywhere in the world. any girl he lays is by the strength of his game only, or if they are attracted to his almost-whiteness. and i do think this affects him, i think some of his unhappiness stems from the fact that a white woman will never treat him equal to a white man.

        and sure, as a white man you can go almost anywhere in asia and have your choice. i have seen many, many, many do it. eventually you will become one of them who has done it too much, sitting at the bar, a bit sweaty, a bit red in the face, your eyes betraying the deep hollowness in your heart.

        so i’m not sure heartiste…if it is courage or if it is leaning too far over to hedonism. i enjoyed roosh’s post on the 7 sins, slightly related.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm Greg Eliot

        this word “bitter” gets thrown around too freely and disingenuously by a lot of cunts and manlets who want to drive a stake through their perceived boogeymen.

        And might I add “butthurt”.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:54 pm A Gamer

        I agree “bitter” is an overused word by fems and gays.

        The shading is over the top condescending to my thinking.
        The other meme that Amster went for is the “too bad he needed to go overseas for female companionship” is also condescending.

        Everybody has a market price. And if the average American male knew how hawt, deferential and culinary foreign chicks are they would kick the girls that use words like “bitter” to the curb.

        The arrogance of the American female is really out of line with the rest of the world. I say that because I married an Eastern European.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:02 pm prontso

        Roosh goes to other countries to pick up women gratis and then ends up mostly paying for the pussy. I guess foreign strange is cheaper than high-quality American pussy, but what the hell? I’d rather spank it than pay for a woman.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:43 pm Kate

        “I don’t read his blog”

        Is it time you start? wink wink? wink wink? 🙂

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:06 pm wolfie65

        Been a while since I’ve looked at Roosh, but I bet he does pretty well with the neo-Hippie Euros who are ashamed of being White and rich and privileged and will basically fuck just about anything that isn’t.
        As for smell, I’ve never had the impression that women mind sweat all that much, that’s just ‘nuddah’ fairy tale they feed to the WhiteKnightNiceGuyGentlemen to confuse them even more.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 2:56 am Scray

        Yeah, Roosh does seem bitter. What I disagree with is why that’s a negative thing. We gotta put these things on a priority level. Roosh’s ‘bitterness’ gives him a lot of strength and frame control. Dead serious. Now, clearly he’s unable to put this across IRL, at least in America. But he’s built a strong following by his ability to express these qualities through the written word.

        My only point is that being ‘butthurt’ or ‘bitter’ or ‘mad’ or whatever is okay sometimes. If you have to choose between ‘do whatever the fuck you want without apology’ and ‘NEVER BE REACTIVE,’ I choose the former every time.

        Roosh saw a situation that annoyed him/pissed him off/made him sentimental/whatever, and he decided to ‘react’ to it. Look at what it got him — a loyal following and success.

        Whatever works, whatever gives you that core strength…

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:50 am this too shall pass

        Kate what’s up with this match-making, isn’t Amy supposed to have an alpha boyfriend already?

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:20 pm Tilikum

        team black knight;)

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm Tilikum

      after this post can there any longer be any doubt that this Arbiter thing is a troll?

      i mean,its cute and entertaining and I’m gonna keep feeding it, but why is it here? study our ways and then……what?

      it seems angry and bitter and irrelevant but the nested replies to itself remind me of a very angry little munchkin i knew in high school who couldn’t FATHOM why no one would play Dungeons and Dragons with him.

      wait…Philip is that you?!?!?!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:03 pm Greg Eliot

        Eh, Tili… does it seem at all ironic to you that you jump in with Cathedralese “bitter” right after the major domo of the chateau himself pronounced its use somewhat disingenuous?

        Red pill, my ass… in all matters except MAYBE poon you guys are Team Blue.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 6:31 pm Tilikum

        team black, not blue 😉

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:34 pm Greg Eliot

        Ah, I understand now…

        Irony, especially the homegrown variety, is invariably lost on your sort.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 2:05 pm oral c ummings

        Tillie,you a nigga?Don’t that beat all

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 5:20 pm Tilikum

        team black knight 😉

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 4:55 pm Anonymous

      It doesn’t matter how swarthy you are.

      Confidence outweighs everything. Most chicks will still dig a 5’9 indian/arab with game over a muscular 6’2 white beta – even in places in E. Europe or Asia.

      When will you cunts get this through your head and stop making a fuss over race/ethnicity.

      The black guys clean up with the white bitches here in da US of A not because they look better or have larger cocks- it’s because compared to the average white man(let), the average black man is dominant.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm prontso

        Afrocans definitely do not clean up with white bitches — they clean up with defective, ugly, obese, semi-retarded white bitches. It’s rare that a afrocan gets himself an attractive non-retarded white girl — those are reserved almost entirely for white men.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:17 pm Anonymous

        No. I’ve seen enough. Not as rare as you’d like to think.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 7:04 pm Anon2

        Agreed. For the hottest women, they are so starved of good Game, that the man from a less-desired race can actually get them with tight Game. Game makes it easier to get the hottest women vs. the average women.

        Liz Hurley was married to a non-famous Indian man, that too when she was at the peak of her fame and beauty. She could have married into the British Monarchy, or to an A-list male actor.

        Roosh is an Iranian Muslim.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:17 pm Greg Eliot

        Outside of internet porn, not as common as you muh-dikkers like to snark about it online.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 9:23 pm Nicole

        When is the last time any of you were in a high school or college campus?

        It is rampant, and not just the fatties.

        …so much so that even back when I was in high school, I mostly dated European guys because all the African guys were taken with European women, and usually the hottest ones in school. I hear it’s even worse now.

        I don’t really mind since I understand that if a guy has options, he’s going to pick the “best” of what’s available. It’s just that a guy’s idea of “best” often changes over time. Same with women.

        For the same reason a European man has trouble recognizing an African woman’s femininity unless he’s near monstrously masculine compared to his peers, an African guy is not going to recognize a European woman’s virtue once she has sucked a kitbag of African cock. So she reinvents herself and finds a European guy willing to overlook the number of abortions she’s had, and really believes her herpes outbreaks are just headaches.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:04 pm Difference Maker

        “When is the last time any of you were in a high school or college campus?

        It is rampant, and not just the fatties.

        …so much so that even back when I was in high school, I mostly dated European guys because all the African guys were taken with European women, and usually the hottest ones in school. I hear it’s even worse now.
        ”

        Sorry, all the pretty girls wanted to be with me

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:46 am Greg Eliot

        Where I live there are no less than five universities within a 20 mile radius and innumerable high schools… it is not “rampant”.

        But I imagine to a young fat negress in high school who sees her boyZ going after dem WHAAYT wimmens, instead o’ huh, it seems rampant.

        Besides, I thought you said you lived in Israel.? I’m doubting the schul scene over there evinces much Coffey n’ Cream.

        Did you just out yourself (yet again) as some sort of cogdis trollette?

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:24 am thwack

        Greg Eliot

        Where I live there are no less than five universities within a 20 mile radius and innumerable high schools… it is not “rampant”.
        ——————————————————————————————–

        A white guy once pointed out to me how certain white girls would never park ed in front of our house when they came over.

        The white guy was not Greg Eliot

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:48 am wolfie65

        Most chicks anywhere will dig a good-looking, 22-year old 6’4 guy (any color) over anything else, even if he has as much ‘game’ as a fence post.
        Rid yourself of blog delusion.
        Sadly, Black guys clean up pretty good with attractive White girls – not just ghetto whales, been that way since about the 1970’s, combination of urban legends, PC culture, ‘White guilt’ and White guys getting wussier and wussier by the day.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:35 am Greg Eliot

        A white guy once pointed out to me how certain white girls would never park ed in front of our house when they came over.

        The white guy was not Greg Eliot

        Certain white girls… hmmmm… of a “certain” look, I’m guessing.

        And as soon as I figure out what your latest deflection has to do with anything, I’ll get back to you.

        Then again, maybe not.

        On a side note: You spades should crack a dictionary open once in a while… start with “rampant”.

        Then go to “solipsism”.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:42 am Greg Eliot

        Sadly, Black guys clean up pretty good with attractive White girls – not just ghetto whales, been that way since about the 1970′s, combination of urban legends, PC culture, ‘White guilt’ and White guys getting wussier and wussier by the day.

        Sadly, indeed… and when it does happen, you pinpointed the causes to a T.

        My only argument here is the definition of “rampant”… then again, it’s been long-admitted that I travel in different circles from the darkies who circle their wagons here at the chateau.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:13 am thwack

        white dick is a gateway cock.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:57 am Greg Eliot

        The only thing your ilk knows about gateway cocks is running out the coop with an armful of stolen chickens.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:08 pm Nicole

        See, this is the problem with cougarism. You say you’re red pill, but then your beliefs are still blue pill, as if a 44 year old woman is posting on a blog full of dudes she doesn’t know, to flirt.

        The only guy I flirt with here is gunny, and he knows I’m all talk because he’d probably break it.

        …and do I need to post the photo of what I looked like in high school again?

        There was nothing wrong with my looks in school, unless one counts being African as looking wrong in and of itself. African guys wanted to shag me while keeping their European girlfriends, and I wasn’t having that.

        This is partly how I formed my first theories about assimilants as tools of cultural destruction.

        Be as dismissive as you like, but the fact remains that women grossly under-report and lie about who they’ve been with, how many, and how. African American men cut their teeth running trains on hot European American girls, and never seem to run out of volunteers.

        Don’t put women on a pedestal. If you see one African guy in the entire school who isn’t a total geek, he has probably shagged every European female between the ages of 13 and 18 at his school.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:10 pm Nicole

        In this case, as usual, we know everything about you, but y’all know nothing about us.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 9:22 am Greg Eliot

        If you actually knew as much as you believe yourself to, those heavy dugs on your chest would be filled with brains.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 6:09 pm The Stark Truth

        That is utter nonsense.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 9:46 am markpower49

      I agree with your assessment of Roosh, and esp. RoK, which is a site filled with PC manginas and groids.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 3:17 pm oral c ummings

        Niggazz ??

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 1:19 pm nomad

      at Roosh’s site it’s all “women be evil! they the enemy!”

      I like what CH writes so I’m on this site a lot but I read Roosh’s stuff too and I have to disagree. I see a lot more “women be evil! they the enemy!” stuff on here. Especially from the commenters. That’s fine for PUAs and guys who are only interested in pump and dumps but it gets old and a little depressing if that’s not your thing.

      I can’t figure out why most of the guys on here are even trying to learn game. They complain about not getting women and then talk shit about the women they do get. And it sounds like most of them treat being with a girl as more of a chore or a job than anything else. If you don’t really enjoy women, why bother?
      Roosh covers a lot more about LTR’s and how to find a keeper, stuff like that. A lot of guys on here act all butt-hurt and throw NAWALT around as a big joke but I know better. They aren’t all the same. I think Roosh knows that too.

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  11. on July 25, 2014 at 12:28 pm Tim

    Maybe…they just don’t want to live in any of those third world hellholes? You go to a place like Italy or France and the value of your being a white American male is significantly lower.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:35 pm Arbiter

      All over the West the value is lower, naturally. So they have to go elsewhere. But of course, the Western women are all feminists, that’s the reason. And let’s ignore the fact that Western men are hooking up with Western women every club night. Must not see them. Must read Roosh book instead about how Western women are snotty feminist racists who no one can catch.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:47 pm gunslingergregi

      I enjoyed it they knew I enjoyed it
      why I am still not allowed to go back
      for me couple hot virgin wives would not be a big deal to do

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:25 am thwack

        you were in eyerack

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:57 pm Joachim Peiper

      It’s slightly lower, but still high. American men who have their lives in order are always seen as a big catch.

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  12. on July 25, 2014 at 12:34 pm walawala

    I live in Asia. This is only partly true with some girls who find the local guys to be beta shlubs. But…game is crucial if you want to bang hot younger chicks. I’ve recently moved up my game to more sexualizing the interaction which is helping to weed out time-wasters. If you have no game in Asia…and are a fat white dude…you can increase your SMV by buying your way into a girl’s panties. That is why you see big fat dorks with slim hot chicks. But many of these girls are banging other dudes on the side or have 2-3 such providers.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 12:48 pm gunslingergregi

      not where I live dude I am the only white dude for couple hundred miles
      quit fucking with city chicks with dudes name tatted on them
      none of the chicks within those 200 miles have a tat where I live

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm gunslingergregi

        I couldn’t pump and dump where I live though prob get killed

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm gunslingergregi

        that’s prob a good thing though cause that is where I want to raise my family

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:02 pm shmiggen

        Jakarta?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:58 pm Greg Eliot

        He didn’t even kiss ‘er.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 9:25 pm FamilyMan

      Fat 24 kt gold chain seems like a good idea. Not expensive, it’s like a bank account. As long as it doesn’t get stolen (a real risk) you can always monetize it again to any currency.

      And then you are effectively renting the chick the experience of your gold chain as your payment into her nether regions, but you take it back afterward.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:35 pm gunslingergregi

        word all the gold my wife wears can come in real handy in a pinch instant money

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:27 am thwack

        gold chains, drumbeats and pussy; the holy ni66er trinity.

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  13. on July 25, 2014 at 12:55 pm Dunderhead

    Or do what Jeremiah Thompson did… Country boy from bumfuck Montana. Moved to Brazil and started photographing beautiful women on the beaches. Didn’t even pay them at first. They were willing to do it for free. Started a calendar “Girls of Brazil”. Turned it into a successful business. Married one of the models he had previously photographed. Photography game for the win…

    http://fourhourworkweek.com/2010/11/25/wife-hunting/

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:15 pm Tilikum

      photography is natural poon attractor

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm Greg Eliot

        Vanity, thy name is hamster!

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  14. on July 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm Waffles

    Anyone interested in Russia might be interested in this book. The author is a pretty cool dude.

    http://www.harpercollins.ca/books/Where-Bears-Roam-Streets-Jeff-Parker/?isbn=9781554683819

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  15. on July 25, 2014 at 1:00 pm Bob Wallace

    American women, sooner or later, will try to the power of the State to put a stop to American men seeking foreign woman. They’ll claim they’re Dirty Old Men seeking to exploit and abuse these women, yet at the same time claim these women are gold-diggers seeking a green card from desperate naive men. Even if they don’t want these men, they don’t want anyone else to have them, either.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 1:18 pm Amy

      They’ve already started with VAWA. Personally I couldn’t care less about mail order brides as long as the guy agrees to support her so she doesn’t end up on the taxpayer dime.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:36 pm gunslingergregi

        how bout them being equal just like an American bitch oh wait they not equal either hhahahahhahahahah

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:38 pm gunslingergregi

        trust me amy every bitch in another country is better than you and doesn’t need your American dime
        they don’t have welfare to fall back on like you do
        therefore it makes them more equal by default
        so just stfu
        thanks

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm The Stark Truth

      That is if a critical mass drop out or leave the country but only the gamma can shut down carosel completely.

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  16. on July 25, 2014 at 1:13 pm yeahokcool

    OT. the opening sentence of this jez article (http://jezebel.com/the-key-to-greater-work-happiness-is-taking-and-giving-1610410032) is so very telling:

    “The hardest part about any office job is probably not the job — it’s the people, AKA dealing with other personalities so fundamentally different, irritating, and mismatched that it’s a wonder any work gets done at all.”

    Indeed, this sentence suggests so much about the standard liberal American woman. In short, this sentence supports the theory(ies) that women take cakewalk, liberal arts major jobs (thereby partially explaining the pay gap, to the extent there is one) and can’t help themselves but to create drama in the workplace. Otherwise, it is hard to understand how dealing with your coworkers could “probably” be more challenging than your actual work.

    Maybe I’m being close-minded, but is this the experience of even one man here? Every week, I have to work with coworkers/other people with whom I do not get along. Even though in some instances it may be quite distasteful to do so, it is in no way more challenging than my “office job” itself. Why? First of all, because my job is actually fairly challenging. But, more significantly, it is because “it” isn’t all about me; “it” is more so about the job (or, in my specific case, the client). Women, being the inherently solipsistic creatures that they are, cannot properly draw this distinction. No wonder women are so unhappy now. The workplace environment is not suited to their tender sensibilities. Even one of their leaders, Tracy Moore, agrees!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:39 pm Greg Eliot

      The Apocalypse is drawing nigh, for I not only agree with yeahokcool, it’s like every world sprung forth from my own mind, Athena-style.

      Well-done, and a tip o’ the ten gallon.

      Now let’s just get back to disagreeing about morals and the occasional snipe… I just got a new dog so I don’t need any more friends. 😉

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm Tilikum

        what r morals?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm Greg Eliot

        Those were the things at the top of the copybooks in grade school…

        … and which your teachers, no doubt, despaired in the attempt to depart.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:20 pm Greg Eliot

        As a self-admitted member of (ahem) “Team Black”, try not to fit the stereotype too overtly.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:06 pm Matthew

        Morals are for whites. You don’t need to concern yourself with them.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 10:18 pm immoralgables

      I have an anecdote I’d like to provide.

      I work in a risk dept at a large financial services firm. For the most part, the men on my floor are quantitatively-minded, introverted nerds. Sure, a few of them exhibit alpha traits and others have status due to being Managing Directors but for the most part, there isn’t much “competition”.

      There is a flock of Asian women on my floor and the way I’ve been treated since joining the group is pretty interesting. I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve lost a lot of weight and look better, or maybe because I feel better that my persona emanates stronger than before but damn, I’m like the stud in this group. Even the non-Asians treat me different than in my past roles.

      It may be also because I’m a bit more physically intimidating and wear tighter work shirts so there could be a physical aspect to it. I don’t know and it’s like one of those phenomenons where when you lose a bunch of weight, it takes your mind a couple months to catch up to the reality that you’re an attractive dude.

      There is no challenge to dealing with my coworkers in this sense and it’s due to a scarcity of worthwhile guys. I’m not even trying to bang any of these chicks on my floor; all I do is lap up the attention and enjoy the convos with them. All it takes is to banter with them in the pantry room and to lightly flirt with them at happy hours outside of work. It’s pretty awesome though and I’m getting used to it.

      I’m known as the “bro” on the floor.

      -The first month I was like “Wow hmmm, everyone in risk must be pretty nice!”
      -The second month was like “Wow hmmm, maybe everyone is really nice because I’m in a high-profile group?”
      -Now it’s just dawned on me that for one of the few times in my life, I’m that dude on my floor and it’s mostly because a lack of competition.

      Left-over food being offered, an extra second of eye contact, a really sweet disposition, always laughing at what I say, being regarded better than any of my previous jobs….it’s pretty cool. It’s hard to explain because I’m not used to it but there is some kind of tension with most of the women. Not all of them but at the end of interactions I’m like “Wait, do you think she is into me?”

      I’m not sure if that answers your question but what I’m trying to say is that when you’re one of the few “alphas” in your department, it’s a lot more pleasant. Mind you though, within my own team, that’s not the case. I’m still low on the totem pole.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:34 am walawala

        @immoral There is another phenomenon I face. In some Asian societies there is a kind of established pecking order. Then there is a concept of giving “Face” to your social “superiors”. When you’re the outsiders two things happen: 1) you’re perceived as a threat and those in the “upper” positions will do all they can to keep you in line 2) those in the lower position look up to you if you’re an established power.

        Asian women look up to power and many of them are also very dominant. From where I sit…when I started banging the hot girls in the social circle…there was a group of both beta shlubs and girls who would whisper shit into those girls’ ears about me: he’s a player, he’s a foreigner etc etc.

        That shit takes a toll…the girls do start to question why they’re with me because being the outsider there is a culture of conformity…

        The Asian girls who do hang with foreigners are usually the rebels or outsiders. They keep it quiet from their families and friends.

        In both cases I never meet the girls’ families or attended many of their little ongoing late night dinners and shit.

        Being the outsider has advantages. You’re shiny. But without solid game you become a kind of exotic pet: ie beta.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:50 am Greg Eliot

        I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve lost a lot of weight and look better, or maybe because I feel better that my persona emanates stronger than before but damn, I’m like the stud in this group.

        It’s the lid, bro… the lid.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 8:48 am immoralgables

        @Walawala

        How strong is the social pressure over there? I always figure that more or less, if a girl is into you then her friends telling her to stop seeing you will even make her fall for you more.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:59 pm walawala

        @immoral hard to say….in one case…the girl is still my closest friend despite the pressures. But I dumped her first.

        For the crazy ex gf….some beta shlub started hitting it…I found out…that’s when I pulled back…she dumped me…they’re together.

        I was right.

        Social pressure? I think a lot depends on your own alpha cred. In each case I started to get pissed at the chicks for allowing her friends to talk shit….

        In retrospect it had limited impact—girls will believe what you make them believe.

        In the second case the beta shlub has 3 cars, tons of money and is more easily manipulated because he’s local…i’m not.

        The point is being white is not a guarantee of anything…game is still required.

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  17. on July 25, 2014 at 1:22 pm PIATTI

    gut says.. it’s not the choice to go overseas but the lack of class in approach (much of modern game’s say anything alot strategy) and relating the experience (roosh example and many others..) it can be a whorehouse or a much needed time machine back to 1960 mindset before professional advertising.. I lived in Ukraine and Russia when they had only 3 channels.. the women were biologically programmed not mentally

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  18. on July 25, 2014 at 1:27 pm Wilson

    Guys don’t leave because they have jobs. Can’t just take off to bang chicks while living off the proceeds of ebooks they sell to guys who live off the proceeds of writing ebooks.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:08 pm anonymous

      Yeah exactly. It’s simply not a practical/scalable solution.

      But that can be said of virtually anything, even game. Not all of us are going to make it unfortunately.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:13 pm elmer

      I would hang a Gone A-Whorin’ sign on my cube and disappear for weeks on end.

      Because nobody gives you work/life balance. You take it.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:57 pm Greg Eliot

      And denizens of the chateau aside, the average American male is not finding the banging of American girls to be an herculean endeavor.

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  19. on July 25, 2014 at 1:32 pm ar10308

    Before everyone rushes off to buy plane tickets to the Ukraine or Russia, you may want to take local current events into account when choosing your destination.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:55 pm oral c ummings

      LOL!”But just wanted a girlfriend…sir”

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  20. on July 25, 2014 at 1:40 pm corvinus

    To answer CH’s question as to why more white American men don’t go overseas:

    1) Feminism and otherwise being brainwashed manboobs. We can safely assume that any white American man who votes Democrat, supports gay marriage, rails against racism and bigotry etc., is probably not the type who will be looking for a traditional wife, even if she’s hot. In the case of certain liberal males, they may even abhor “exploitation” of foreign women for themselves and self-preen by rutting with fat cougars or whoever else will have them in the USA. Heck, many American men dump American women who want to be stay-at-home moms because they don’t want the responsibility of being the sole breadwinner. Such men would undoubtedly not be going foreign.

    2) Travel costs / long-distance relationships. The expense involved for many American men would make many believe it’s not worth it. In this time of recession, high student-loan debt, and so forth, the idea of forking over a few thousand for plane tickets and lodging for one trip abroad may seem prohibitive. In addition, American betas, who are more likely to be rejected by American women and consider overseas in the first place, tend to also lack enough confidence to make enough money to afford trips overseas in the first place.

    3) So if American beta males are dissuaded by cost considerations and feminism, what about American alphas? Well, it’s simple: they have options here. If the American man is alpha enough to not have to rut with landwhales here in the USA, then he may even view the cost of trying to marry a foreign woman to be not just prohibitive, but a complete, ludicrous waste, not to mention the problems with long-distance relationships and the green-card fraud risk. Those cool girls he knows in Alpha Phee are just as hot and probably not any more slutty than anal-loving Russki chicks anyway. Plus, they’re right here; he can see them any time.

    4) Racial sense. I know that in my own case, I don’t want to procreate with a nonwhite woman because I know I wouldn’t really be able to connect with any children I produced with her, especially sons. This wouldn’t apply to European women, of course, but it definitely narrows one’s options. Plus, there’s a sense for white men when dating Asian women that they’re playing Doom on “I’m Too Young to Die” mode, and they feel a bit ashamed of themselves. Other people notice it too; more alpha men and women both view an Asian-dater with contempt not much less intense than that leveled at the chubby-humper.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 4:25 pm The Spirit Within

      Corvinus, I’m living proof that your “safe” assumption in #1 is wrong.

      I’m shacked up with a HB8 right now because she didn’t want to see me leave town. We’re hitting it three times a day, no joke. And I voted Obama. Gay marriage is irrelevant.

      It’s sad to see you conflate voting Democrat with being pathetic. There are outstanding economic reasons to avoid voting Republican, but nobody here wants to address that.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 4:15 pm corvinus

        It’s sad to see you conflate voting Democrat with being pathetic. There are outstanding economic reasons to avoid voting Republican, but nobody here wants to address that.

        Outstanding economic reasons, such as screwing white men out of their money and job opportunities and giving them to women and minorities, and otherwise making it as difficult as possible to live independently, amirite?

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:58 pm wolfie65

      Add to that that actual immigration to a foreign country is a lengthy, difficult and often expensive proposition. Unless you’re a mega-billionaire, 5-time Wimbledon champion or you’re carrying the cure for cancer in your briefcase, they’re NOT waiting for you in Uzbekistan, Bolivia or Japan.
      3 months as a tourist, sure, but actually LIVING there is a completely different ball of wax.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:47 pm gunslingergregi

        jesus Christ why does it always got to be a billionaire
        I lived where I was on 600 a month

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 10:00 pm FamilyMan

      So Rupert Murdoch and Jeffrey Zuckerberg are contemptible betas? They married Chinese but upper class Chinese. I believe Zuckerberg’s family had a business connection to his wife’s family or something like that. And remember when Murdoch was getting a bunch of shit from the UK government, his Chinese wife rose to his defense.

      They had their choice of white individuals and Chinese individuals, and the individuals they chose to marry happened to be Chinese.

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      • on July 27, 2014 at 4:11 pm corvinus

        So Rupert Murdoch and Jeffrey Zuckerberg are contemptible betas? They married Chinese but upper class Chinese.

        Murdoch’s China doll also took him to the cleaners.

        Zuckerberg… well… there’s a post on this blog about Zuckerberg. Yes, he is a beta, and his wife is definitely plain.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 7:03 am wolfie65

      @gun – Not the point. Sure there are places where you can live on US $ 600/month or less for a few months as a tourist.
      As an IMMIGRANT, however, their authorities will want to see a helluva lot more cash than that at your disaposal.

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  21. on July 25, 2014 at 1:44 pm KungPao

    Wherever you go, bring Game with you. Too many herblings have run off to East Asia (or Eastern Europe), bringing their betatude with them, their only Game the cultural cache that comes with being a Westerner and then once the sparkle of foreign wears off little Mai Lin takes em to the cleaners as surely as Mary Lynn.

    Women have the same motivations and impulses no matter where you go, only difference is if their home culture has restrained their anti-civilizational yearnings or enabled them.

    On another note, Eastern European women would be better than East Asian if any men want to raise a family. Do not burden the world with more dubiously male Elliot Rodgers.

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  22. on July 25, 2014 at 1:54 pm Backdoor Man

    When I was in my 20s, I lived in a South American country for several years. Those were good times. I’ve been married to a woman from said country for 15 years, and I plan on retiring there someday.

    If I were single again and wanted a serious relationship, I wouldn’t waste my time with American women. Because once you have sampled beyond U.S. shores, you can’t take them seriously. You just can’t.

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  23. on July 25, 2014 at 1:56 pm The Stark Truth

    Within the so-called dark enlightenment this issue seems to divide the white advocates from the men’s advocates despite the fact there is so much overlap between the two groups.

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  24. on July 25, 2014 at 1:57 pm skip

    You have to be able to earn a living overseas to run international game. Most men can’t do that. And very few men are going to structure their lives like Tom Torero and Nick Krauser (two PUAs who are infinitely better than Roosh). Asia is better for this, better than Eastern Europe or Russia, as Asian men tend towards beta anyway. Men in EE or FSU countries are hard, usually tall and very not-beta. Torero has a Vlog on this (just recently). If you think that your American whiteness is going to mean anything in Moscow, a city of Billionaires, then your delusional. You would need MORE game to get a pretty Russian girl from Moscow then to get an equivalent girl from New York.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm yeahokcool

      i would say “different” game rather than “more” game.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:54 pm skip

        No. “More” as in better is what I meant. You have to be harder. Most American men could never go to Moscow and game a pretty Russian woman and get an “r-selected” or “lover” lay. You have to have very good game for that. Exoticness doesn’t mean shit unless you are very strong in your game fundamentals.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm corvinus

      You would need MORE game to get a pretty Russian girl from Moscow then to get an equivalent girl from New York.

      Not really. You’d still have the exoticness/foreignness helping you, at least getting your foot in the door.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 10:49 pm gunslingergregi

      can you understand how fucking much a billion is
      and there are only 32k people in the fucking world with over 10 mil
      so wtf Is up with people acting like you need a billion bucks lol
      do you even understand the implication of how much a billion dollars is I want you to write a report on what it can buy and get back here so you can quit using the fucking word

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  25. on July 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm JohnDSee

    Some questions for CH and the comment section: Why are comments by GBFM and others at the beginning of most comment threads, no matter how late they are posted? Why are they in a lighter text? (I have to adjust the contrast on my phone to read them.) And, why do some of my replies/comments get stuck in moderatation but the weird casino or healthcare spamtrolls get posted? Thanks in advance, gentlemen.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm Greg Eliot

      And who is John Galt?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:28 pm Zombie Shane

        A loser created by Alisa Rosenbaum in order to convince all those beta shegetz nerds to just give up and QUIT.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:23 pm skip

        Actually he was an Aryan ubermensch telling the betas (and the alphas) to quit the system and let the Leftist equalists die by their own lazy hands. Rand may have been Jewish by birth but she glorified Aryans. This has been a point that has been made by many Leftist critics of hers. Rand describes Galt as an original Latin; i.e. a Nordic.

        She may have used individualist language, but her vision of the ideal was an all-white virtuous right-liberal republic. Rand has no non-whites in her books. She didn’t even consider them. And her heros were all alphas.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 5:50 pm Zombie Shane

        Except that John Galt QUIT! John Galt wasn’t a winner – John Galt was a LOSER! If you can’t see the defeatest agenda which Rosenbaum is intentionally shoving down your throat, then you haven’t swallowed the Red Pill yet.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:24 pm Greg Eliot

        Skip’s correct, Shane…

        Reread the book and think in three dimensions… your complaint over him “quitting” was the same issue raised by Daphney Taggart, an issue addressed handily… so that eventually even little Miss “I Can’t Quit” saw the light.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:28 pm Greg Eliot

        Shane, didja ever wonder WHY the most popular novel of the 20th Century (pretty sure it shaded GWTW, but if not, the point remains) has never been given the full-blown Hollywood treatment as a feature film or miniseries?

        (The recent well-intentioned but slapdash and (ugh!) PC-laden series of films by some second tier players don’t count… especially since even those two films died on the vine and got no publicity or promotion worthy of the name.)

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:20 pm corvinus

      Because GBFM piggybacks on the first thread by posting an answer to it, rather than starting a new thread at the end.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 4:10 pm JohnDSee

        I understand about piggybacking, but why is it in a lighter type? Why the moderation of my comments once in awhile but those weird casino, dating or healthcare scam spam comments make it through? I fucking hate that kind of advertising.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 11:34 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        Because GBFM doggystylez on the first thread by posting an answer to it, rather than starting a new thread at the end.

        lzozoozozzl omzg zzlzozozozo

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:11 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Some questions for CH and the comment section: Why are cooches of JohnDsee’s mother and others at the beginning of most comment threads, no matter how late they are buttcocked? Why do they like tighter sex? (I have to adjust the vibrator in my wife’s butt to read them.) And, why do some of my replies/comments get stuck in dalrock’s mom’s ass, but the weird casino or healthcare spamtrolls get posted? Thanks in advance, gentlemen. I will not remove the potato ship from my ass, where I have been storing it all day, for a snack. zolzlzlzoz

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 3:19 am Glengarry

      We just like the spammers better.

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  26. on July 25, 2014 at 2:01 pm The Stark Truth

    Has any read Hollebeque? He advocates sex tourism. His argument is that the sexual revolution turned sex marriage and dating into capitalism not communism. Sex tourism ironically takes advantage of globalization. In the first world you have relative prosperity combined with sexual haves and have not. Houllebeque argues that sex tourism is a way redistribute both sexual and economic resources.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:27 pm Tim

      I’ve read everything he’s written. He’s mentioned by Heartsie in a few different posts.

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  27. on July 25, 2014 at 2:10 pm little spoon

    There is real wisdom in your answer. Yes. American guys don’t leave because they have jobs. And they have jobs because theyare americans, who have a sense of work ethic and responsibility. Roosh pretends that he had to overcome some psychological barrier to shirk the expectations to work and put some roots down. Bullshit. He does what the whole lot of turks do. Goes to Europe and has no job.What percentage of actual American guys will settle for having no job and living off the largess of the European state and their family? Maybe 1 in 1000. What percent of turks will do the same? Like over 50%. Roosh acts like he is some hero when he is just another turk in Europe who doesn’t care to work. Says he lives off ebook sales. Fat chance. More like he lives off european states that will treat you even when you are a foreigner with no insurance. Turks have no shame about doing this, hence they are massively over represented on european welfare rolls. American guys don’t do this because they have some shame. Unlike turks who have none.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm Charlie Don't Surf

      … And european women show up on the Aegean Coast in droves to get fucked by Turkish men. Droves of them. More to life than work ethic and responsibility – or don’t you coolies talk about that during their 18 hours shifts behind bullet-proof glass at the Quickie Mart…

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 4:56 pm Anonymous

      Lol look at this cunt acting like she’s got it all figured out.

      Get your bitchass back in the kitchen

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:47 pm cryo

      lol I admire her tenacity

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 7:36 pm Zombie Shane

        Then step up to the plate and put some buns in the poor girl’s oven. She’s like frigging 32yo already.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 9:49 pm FamilyMan

      Is that right, I can go to Europe and get welfare? Only if I claim to be a refugee. (I think you are wrong about what Roosh is doing, but that’s irrelevant for the logic in the rest of my post.)

      Look, little spoonie. Roosh has a clarity of vision and stability of temperament that is beyond your understanding. That’s OK, it’s beyond most people’s understanding, but don’t minimize it because you can’t do it.

      Your racist insults make no sense. And I am someone who gives a lot of racist insults, but I think mine are cogent. Yours is irrelevant. You say that Roosh, somehow racially inferior to all us “white” Americans, is able to do this thing he does in Europe but it’s scummy. Well I guess we won’t lose much sleep over your opinion of it, we’re into what works. And here, when we see guys getting shut down for being nice guys and divorce raped for the same reason, we have come to realize that we may be slow learners, but we too can learn to be scummy.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:35 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      wot is a job? da GBFM doesz not leave americasz not because he has a jobz, but becuase he has manys blowjobz.

      bring da moviesz.zlzlzlzozozloolz

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  28. on July 25, 2014 at 2:13 pm shmiggen

    I can vouchsafe that this post speaks the truth. A white man in Asia is the Golden Cock. Thailand is a fascinating country; I therefore recommend it above the Philippines. Plus pinoy food is terrible. Japanese women have the softest, most beautiful skin in the world. In China, a white man will be mobbed by legions of adoring little yellow bitches. You can fuck ‘n chuck at your leisure.

    I’m not familiar with latin america, but its on my fuckit list. Trust me, however, my cock has been in service in asia, and its all due to my whiteness and comcomitant whititude. .

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm The Stark Truth

      Isn’t there a massive gender imbalance China?

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 2:41 pm shmiggen

        yes

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:23 pm corvinus

        Yes, but it doesn’t matter since the vast majority of Chinese men are beta or omega.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm The Stark Truth

        I disagree. Look at how the Chinese are conquering Africa. Yet some moron pua types think Africans living in huts are more alpha.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:32 pm corvinus

        I disagree. Look at how the Chinese are conquering Africa. Yet some moron pua types think Africans living in huts are more alpha.

        And all those quiet Chinese students who hang out in the library are pulling hot white chicks hand over fist.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:41 pm The Stark Truth

        Well regardless of that many pua types think a ghetto omega who fucks HIV infested hoodrats is more alpha.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 9:52 pm FamilyMan

        Abstracting from the details, I guess you could say overall, the whites and Chinese like and respect each other, so they will find many opportunities to intermarry.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 10:54 pm gunslingergregi

        change your name stark truth I tried to get hiv no dice so fuck off with what you don’t know

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      “fuckit list”

      Love that.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 1:31 am Mean Mr Mustard

      The Chinese are the Jews of Asia.

      China does not even need to go to war.
      It is big enough and now rich enough to enable its population to swarm across the globe like a plague of slantly eyed locusts.
      Godless, money hungry, status whoring locusts.

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  29. on July 25, 2014 at 2:15 pm Anonymous

    Alternatively, if you move to a student town or any large city with several universities (e.g. London) you can find a lot of foreign exchange students. Get ’em while they’re fresh and unsullied. A lot of universities here in the UK and presumably elsewhere will put up demographical information on their website. When you see something like “61% female” and “43% of our students come from overseas” you know you’re onto a winner (61% * 43% * 20,000 = 5,246 sweet, sexy foreign exchange student girls).

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  30. on July 25, 2014 at 2:20 pm KungPoon

    One needs to ask oneself if running game is worthwhile, or one just wants laid with a nice girl. In Russia the girls consider themselves independent, but never have enough money due to high expenditures on clothes and cosmetics. Consequently, to pay the bills many, many are open to having sex with you in exchange for some financial support.

    These are not prostitutes, they are girls you would beg to sex, 7-9s who work 7 days a week, and simply need some extra money once in awhile. The full-time prostitutes are there, of course, but these “nice girls” will fuck you blind, suck you till the cows come home, and leave you in euphoria for less than you would spend on a date in the U.S. So why bother with a prostitute. And, most will come to you, or have clean apartments so you can visit them at home. Having an apartment is a primary expense for Russian girls that they have to cover, or move back home with Mom.

    So, the question becomes given the effort of game and the continual effort of meeting and trying to talk girls out of their panties, not to mention expense – given you want to get well laid with the least effort, why bother? One simply must ask these girls if they need some financial support.

    Many will be a bit insulted and tell you, “I’m not a prostitute!”. I had a problem with this until I figured out the correct answer, “Of course not. I can see you are a nice girl. How much material support do you want for a couple hours?” Then they will tell you, usually about 2000-3000 rubles per hour (about $60-90).

    Agree and they are hot to trot. And it isn’t lie there and pretend either. Russian girls are absolutely hot. They love to hug and kiss a bit, and then go directly to suck your dick. They all seem to understand that the man must have his pleasure. Give them some back, and they’ll love it. Nothing like watching a Russian girl go into orgasm, back arching and toes curling.

    Condoms are de rigeur, but if you give off enough of the alpha vibe, you can get them to do you without. And these girls are clean. In several hundreds I’ve never caught anything, even doing about 80% raw dog. I was there in the spring, did 7 girls, only one with a condom (once); and in 4 weeks had sex 16 times.

    Cost for the 3 weeks $2400 apartment rental, $1500 round trip air, food (apartment has kitchen) $300, girls $3000 for ~32 hours sex. Total $7200 for the vacation and girls.

    I’m in my 50’s, a bit over weight and I can pull these girls aged 18-24 whenever I want them. Why waste time with old women, when these young girls will be glad to take care of you. A big push for your ego to have these young beautiful girls ready to come and f**k when you want. Had 3 contact me recently and ask when I’m coming back – a 19, 20 and 25 year old.. It is the only way to go!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 2:32 pm anonymous

      It’s a touch pricey, but even as a good looking guy in my 20s, I find this story enviable. Sure sounds like it beats scratching and clawing and struggling to get a 6-7 once every other week.

      What an absolutely rotten sexual market we live in.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 3:42 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

        If you want quality, you have to pay for it.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:47 pm midnight toker

        @Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh
        “If you want quality, you have to pay for it.”

        he’s not paying for quality. he’s paying for hookers. if a girl won’t bang you unless you pay her, she’s a hooker. you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a…hooker.

        @anonymous
        might be tougher in the trenches scratching and clawing to get a 6-7 once every other week but paying for sex is nothing to be proud of. learn game and you’ll get better with chicks. don’t give up and take the easy way out. you won’t feel good about yourself and it’s lazy as hell.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:02 pm skip

      How do you find these girls? Traditional sex tourism methods? Online? Or are you meeting them at bars and clubs? I doubt you’re running daygame at mid 50s.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:57 pm Patrick

      What Kungpoon says here applies to Latin America. The girls like foreign white guys for many reasons, one of which is that you’re not dirt poor like their own men are. Many American guys have trouble with the concept of “helping them out” because they feel like suckers or customers. However, that’s due to being conditioned by American culture where WOMEN HAVE MONEY. Of course you don’t want to spend money on women in the US – they have their own (at least to go out to bars and live decently – they’re still looking for a long term rich guy, but that’s another topic).

      However, when you go abroad, my advice is get used to “helping them out” a little and you’ll have a blast. Like Kungpoon says, they’re NOT prostitutes. But put yourself in their shoes. They think, “I’m a dirt poor, worthless female no matter how hot I am, and this rich white American superman shows up — and wants me to bang him for nothing? What’s the point of having an American ‘boyfriend’ if I don’t get any support?”

      Just be a little subtle in Latin American — offer to buy them something instead of giving cash in hand. Often, they’ll say they want to go out with you but they have to work that night, or their supposed to take an overnight bus to visit family. So just offer to help out with the money their losing for not working, or to buy a domestic plane ticket so they can fly in the morning to visit family. It’s CHEAPER than dating an American woman, because sooner or later you end up paying for shit.

      Whatever you do, NEVER follow up on the excuse they gave, like asking about their work or the flight details. Let it go….. you will have a blast.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:58 pm nomad

      No offense man. I can see how paying girls can get the job done but how is that good for the ego?

      That’s just laziness. Gaming them might be harder but when you do it right, girls want you for who you are, not for how much money you’ve got. Knowing I had to pay someone because I wasn’t willing to do the work would be an ego crusher not an ego builder.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm midnight toker

      more power to you if you have fun with that and can afford it but at least have the balls to call it what it is.

      you’re not pulling them, you’re paying them.
      not sure how your ego is getting a push from that.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 1:46 pm Sephiroth

        I see you guys have internalized feminist brainwashing. If all the beta orbiters could grow a sack and just demand sex in exchange for what they’re providing, the problem with the current sexual market would be solved overnight.

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  31. on July 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm The Spirit Within

    Agreed that beautiful foreign girls monger, but this is a website about game, which is ultimately more rewarding than paying for it.

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  32. on July 25, 2014 at 2:43 pm Steve

    Game in Russia is probably the hardest in the world. Once you have the girl, they are wonderful, but the process of getting them is torture. Heavy filtering with brutal rejection, general bitchiness and heavy shit-testing upon approach to determine your value, toughest LMR in the world.

    Russia is a true test even for advanced players. High reward, but a heavy price.

    Don’t think for a second that you can succeed in Russia as an American beta. These girls don’t need saving, plenty of millionaire provider game in Moscow.

    In America, you can complain about quality, but not toughness. The US is one of the easiest playing grounds in the world. To a Russian man, the idea that you can fuck a girl the same day you meet her is unbelievable.

    In Russia, there are girls that you can actually fall in love with. But don’t even think of coming until you are pulling regularly in America, and you want a challenge. Game in Russia will make a man out of the most whipped of beatings.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm KungPoon

      Very true. I mentioned the need for alpha action in my post above.

      If you are just beta, the girls will walk all over you, try to get you to buy this and that, etc.; in other words, game you. You have to be man enough, tough enough, to display alpha charisma.

      What I described might be called “fast game”. It locates the girls with a need and provides for an exchange of value by cutting through the initial crap.

      As I noted, condoms are de rigeur, and virtually every Russian girl will tell you that you absolutely must wear a condom, usually even for oral sex. So there is game involved in dealing with them. It just cuts to the chase and gets you ready for the endgame.

      I have had girls come and then start that they won’t do this, or they need extra money, or whatever. I’ve simply said no, and if they weren’t willing to meet my standards sent them away. Most will give you great sex, after determining that you aren’t an American wimp they can do a snow job on. So Steve is correct about them..

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 4:56 pm Caramba

      Rubbish. Im a Ukrainian professional who lives in Europe and I forget the word “game”when I am back in Ukraine. You don’t need any game there, they practically jump on you.

      Same for russia,not much difference (been there,including Moscow).

      Although I must admit- I speak the language and I know how to be around women there.Probably an awkward american would find it a bit strange indeed.

      One thing I noticed after living in Kyiv is that american and british expats NEVER get anything higher than a 6′-7.Even at posh events for expats with all those high paid jobs,I had never seen truly hot Ukrainian girls.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 5:09 pm skip

      This is what I was getting at above. If you can’t do well in America, forget gaming Russian women, especially in Moscow. The time for that was in the 90s when the wall had just fallen. That time has passed. If you’re looking to exploit the short-term sexual market for quick lays, America is probably the best country in the world (Vegas is probably the best city).

      America is a weird mix of Leftist equalism, libertarianism (especially sexual) and fading remnants of Christian Conservatism (which preserves the “Disney” fantasies despite the sexual depravity of the broader culture). Game is easiest to apply here. Even betas get laid here, and with decent women as most women will eventually date a beta (or two) even if they are young or hot. I’ve seen it countless times.

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 6:17 pm Anon.

        Top-quality post.

        Makes me laugh when I see all these guys complaining about how tough America is. America is the kindergarten of game, Western Europe is high school, Former Soviet Union is the PhD. American girls suck, but man, if you can’t get laid in America, foreign girls won’t even give you the time of day.
        Russia is for ADVANCED players only. Russia is the boss monster of game.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:43 pm l82dagame

      Disagree. Banged Russian girls both in America and in Russia…the former being easier to pull. In Russia the girls are much skinnier and prettier which relatively reduces their value. Plus in the cities there is an imbalance of young men to women. Go to any bar or club and there are significantly more girls than guys. I didn’t go to pickup girls or find a wife. I went to see friends and broaden my horizons. Мне очень нравится Россия!

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      • on July 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm Anon.

        American girls can be pulled within hours, Russian girls often take several dates of chipping away at LMR, with the risk of burning the set. The rejections are far more brutal in Russia, and there are far more of them (on approach, before you open your mouth). You must filter golddiggers and other general timewasters. The exceptions are 30+ FSU girls which are significantly easier, and occasional green light girls that are responsive from the start and don’t put you through the usual torture.

        Russia requires top game. The imbalance has zero effect, unless you are going for low-quality women. High-quality girls have sugar daddies and a platoon of top-dog alpha males to choose from. Look at Russian men, they are on the other extreme from American betaboys. You absolutely must be alpha or you won’t even be considered. Playing the money game is stupid as you are playing against millionaires, so you must disqualify yourself from the start. What works is connection, something that Russian men aren’t very good at.

        You can probably go to Russia and get a 6 or so as an LTR after a lot of work if you are an American beta, but if you are aiming for the actual quality (which is the only reason to go), you must bring value to the table, more than the local men. And the local men bring a lot, more than the average American.

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  33. on July 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm The Stark Truth

    Return of kings is talking about removing warts on your cock! http://www.returnofkings.com/40419/how-to-remove-genital-warts-on-your-penis-using-apple-cider-vinegar

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm elmer

      I may submit a piece titled “The Gentleman’s Guide to Herpes”. Lotsa laffs.

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  34. on July 25, 2014 at 3:13 pm The Stark Truth

    Only the lowest omega would get those in the first place.

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  35. on July 25, 2014 at 3:25 pm Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    If I were Roosh, I’d not want to pollute my hunting grounds with a buncha dumb thirsty Yanks.

    Do fishermen brag about how awesome the fishing is at their secret fishing hole?

    Nothing to see here fellas. Move along.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:34 pm corvinus

      According to Roosh, it’s most likely to be dumb thirsty Spaniards and Italians rather than Yanks, or even Brits or Germans.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm Greg Eliot

      That’s like back in the seventies, when it was discovered the casinos were actually funding the printing of many of those How To Count Cards books.

      Move along, indeed. lzozlzozlzozl

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  36. on July 25, 2014 at 3:37 pm Anon345

    Funny how Iranian Muslim Roosh is now ‘white’.

    The white nationalists could not bear the alternative – that he was shagging their precious Eastern European women and wrecking them permanently for local men under the ‘5 mins of alpha beats 5 years of beta’ principle.

    Hats off to Roosh. He singlehandedly made them expand the definition of ‘white’.

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  37. on July 25, 2014 at 4:00 pm The Value Of White American Men In The Overseas Sexual Market | Reaction Times

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  38. on July 25, 2014 at 4:18 pm Papa Boner

    I just had the thought that in addition to the obvious socioeconomic differences, one of the reasons American betas can succeed abroad is that we are too prone to talking and more talking, and you can’t talk when you barely speak two words of their weird foreign language. The resulting hand gestures and grunts and broken communication are a lot more like the way alphas are supposed to behave, which could be part of the attraction.

    I definitely noticed this difference in myself after I fell out of obsession love with friend girl. No two hours of blah blah talking, I just pointed at the Veeder-Root machine without saying a word, and she handed me a tank reading with a confused look on her face, and an air approaching obedience. If I had been doing that all along, I might have fucked that chick.

    Lots of guys are too shy to talk to girls at all. I’m not one of them, but I talk about blah blah instead of getting the job done. I need to trade my “PUT ME IN YOUR FRIEND ZONE” t-shirt for a “SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY” t-shirt.

    Flying to the other side of the world is expensive and time consuming, but this topic of conversation does put me onto an idea. Find Spanish speaking foreign exchange students and/or illegal immigrants, and go to town. I don’t have the vocabulary for random esoteric philosophical elderly chat blather in Spanish, but I do have the vocabulary to talk all kinds of dirty. You can even blow it off like you didn’t realize what you said was dirty.

    Hmmmmm….

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  39. on July 25, 2014 at 4:21 pm A Gamer

    So here is where I provide REAL cynical advice…

    You don’t need to go anywhere outside our fair borders. Merely go to the far south texas Rio Grande Valley. And they walk up to you (no joke… I’m serious).

    A Gringo can get a fine central American lady who decided el norte for her.
    As a plus if you marry (or say you marry her) she cannot be deported and can apply for a Green Card.

    The same effect can now be performed north of the border in Vancouver. There are plenty of asian ladies who’s family was “in progress for citizenship” until Canada shut the doors last year.

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  40. on July 25, 2014 at 4:48 pm Caramba

    “Expat Americans like Roosh catch a lot of flack from envious haters, who smear his motives as those of a “sex tourist” who must “go overseas to score desperate peasant pussy”.”

    Why exactly haters? I personally do not hate him.I just don’t think he is somebody who has any knowledge or authority to give advice on women and relationships.

    He feeds a false reality to an army of american gammas.He tries to sell to those poor men “eastern european girls” “who are into traditional roles”(ye lol), yet has never been in a relationship with an eastern european woman.
    Anyone ,who has at least a tiny bit of experience with eastern european women, will find his stories to be a complete pile of rubbish.

    I know that my value in Latin American or Eastern Europe countries is high.In fact,I know it for a fact. But what’s the point? I just don’t get it. Yes it’s harder here, in europe,but it’s still possible.And in fact,its much more rewarding.It may sound banal but I know that a HB in Bogota is quite likely to love me for my EU passport, while an HB in Europe will want me for what I am.

    Stop lying to yourself.What value does a man,like Roosh,have in eyes of an eastern european girl? A man without a career, hobbies,obvious blue pill achievements? A man without a car (car is like 80% of a man in Ukraine or Russia lol).A 30 something man without money? His only valuable asset is his passport (thanks to his parents who jumped on a refugee train in the right time).

    He is certainly an interesting guy but he is definitely not a PUA and not even a recovering alpha. He is a massive gamma who found a TEMPORARY solution to his incel problem.

    And btw there is nothing amazingly “brave”in moving to live in a country like Ukraine.Finding an overpriced flat and illegal english teaching job does not sound exactly like a massive undertaking in the age of Internet.

    Get your shit together professionally,financially and hobby wise.And only than think of going somewhere abroad for pussy.

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  41. on July 25, 2014 at 5:01 pm Anon2

    OK, I have a game question :

    Met a woman at a happy hour, isolated her, the vibe was good and she was throwing all the signals. We kissed after about 2 hours of talking, and she gave me her number.

    She is about 10 years younger than me (me 40, she 30 or so). Looks-wise, a 7 or so. But she works at an unimpressive job at Nordstroms, vs. my high-level career.

    We departed very friendly.

    BUT, then this happened.

    I did not contact her for 4 days, then sent a text. We exchanged 1-2 texts, but she didn’t answer the phone when I called.

    Then she texted :

    She : I’m sorry, but I thought about it and I am not interested.

    Me (a few hours later) : I’m glad you said that. (taking a cue from this CH article.

    Then she went outright rude :

    She : Oh, ok. BTW, worst kiss ever.

    That was pretty butt-hurt of her, as i) We kissed a couple times the first time. ii) I have been told I am a good kisser, and have made efforts to do it the right way.

    So why is she so ruffled from my “I’m glad you said that” line? And what is the best response (since I want to practice Game, but don’t really want to see her now)?

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  42. on July 25, 2014 at 5:14 pm Anon2

    OK, I have a game question :

    Met a woman at a happy hour, isolated her, the vibe was good and she was throwing all the signals. We kissed after about 2 hours of talking, and she gave me her number.

    She is about 10 years younger than me (me 40, she 30 or so). Looks-wise, a 7 or so. But she works at an unimpressive job at Nordstroms, vs. my high-level career.

    We departed very friendly.

    BUT, then this happened.

    I did not contact her for 4 days, then sent a text. We exchanged 1-2 texts, but she didn’t answer the phone when I called.

    Then she texted :

    She : I’m sorry, but I thought about it and I am not interested.

    Me (a few hours later) : I’m glad you said that. (taking a cue from a CH article on text replies to rejections).

    Then she went outright rude :

    She : Oh, ok. BTW, worst kiss ever.

    That was pretty butt-hurt of her, as i) We kissed a couple times the first time, so the first time obviously was not bad. ii) I have been told I am a good kisser, and have made efforts to do it the right way.

    So why is she so ruffled from my “I’m glad you said that” line? And what is the best response (since I want to practice Game, but don’t really want to see her now)?

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 7:29 pm Lara

      She is rude. A good respond to her “worst kiss ever” may have been, “Really? I kind of enjoyed it.”. It would show her she didn’t rattle you one bit.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:18 pm Jeff

      the best response would be something mocking her change of heart or her kissing skills, like “agreed – you need kissing lessons” or “don’t get off your meds”

      also, “gay”

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:06 am Mean Mr Mustard

        She : Oh, ok. BTW, worst kiss ever.

        You: Oh, was that the first hour we kissed or the second hour?

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:09 am Mean Mr Mustard

        Scrap that. I misread the post.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:55 pm anonYmous

      When you venture into the land of subtext by saying “im glad you said that” you better be prepared for war, because most guys, myself included are just learning about it and completely unprepared for a subtext battle with a woman.

      The good thing is you dont need to learn subtext or womanspeak. You just have to escalate. In this social media driven, dating website meat market world things move really fast. Since you didnt close her out she got home hopped on POF and found some married douchebag ex-con to come over and plant his seed in her bunghole. Hence emotional availability is zapped up or gone, and a coldness set in. She got what she needed and is good for a few weeks then she will repeat it. We are all to some extent becoming adrenaline junkies. That extra level of excitement of a stranger bludgeoning her innards makes sex better for them because all that matters to their darkened soul is the tingles.

      This is a different animal then the chat a lil bit get to know ya few dates then bang. You can find that out there but until a woman proves to you their worth assume an absence of worth. We are a society in moral decline well on the road to hedonism. Adapt or go sexless.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 4:05 am Glengarry

      Heh, first of all, no need to qualify yourself because of some random yapping. It’s not like she’s making an effort to honestly fill out the post-kissing evaluation form. She’s just being a cunt because her discard didn’t go as smoothly as she’d imagined.

      Depending on what you want to achieve, your reply might be

      “oops that reminds me, get a mouth herpes check”;
      “who is this? please stop contacting me”;
      “ok, pick out a couple of shirts for me and I’ll swing by Nordstroms on friday”;
      “adios”

      or nothing at all

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:53 am Greg Eliot

        I’d be tempted to cull a line or two from that great sleeper movie, Cutter’s Way:

        “Yeah… sigh… it’s been better for me too.” (the resignation tone is important)

        (Upon hearing that, the look on Nina Van Pallant’s face was worth the price of admission)

        or John Heard’s classic go-to:

        “Great art requires a great audience.”

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  43. on July 25, 2014 at 5:32 pm betterthantheoriginalwally

    As for Asia, Japanese women outnumber the men. In China, men outnumber women. That is something to weigh up.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 1:55 am Mean Mr Mustard

      For every female Chinese HB 8-9 (Chinese HB 10’s do not exist) there is at least seventy HB 1-3’s; twenty five HB 4-6’s and a handful of HB 7’s.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 11:32 am corvinus

      When considering sex ratio, you also have to consider the age structure. There are more “women” than “men” in Japan, sure, but that’s because about half the population are old crones.

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  44. on July 25, 2014 at 5:52 pm cryo

    I’m just not really into non-white women. I’d rather have a week long fling with an American or British slut than a marriage to some brown. Yeah white women are entitled and bitchy but once you break down their defenses, they can actually be good company. Foreign women may be demure and servile but there’s something forced and artificial about that kind of relationship.

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  45. on July 25, 2014 at 6:19 pm elmer

    Somewhat on-topc, Time journalist uses “beta” as in computer analogy.

    The Beta Marriage: How Millennials Approach ‘I Do’

    http://time.com/3024606/millennials-marriage-sex-relationships-hook-ups/

    Some wise-ass wrote :

    Men should consider a traditional foreign wife. They work correctly straight out of the box so there is no need to reinstall the operating system or “apps”. Because once a system is corrupted no amount of fiddling with it or adding accessories will optimize its performance satisfactorily. You might as well donate it to a neighbor kid and go to BrideMart for a new model.

    ——————-

    Jessica Bennett is a contributing columnist at Time.com covering the intersection of gender, sexuality, business and pop culture. A former Newsweek senior writer and executive editor of Tumblr, she is also a contributing editor for Sheryl Sandberg’s women’s foundation, Lean In.

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  46. on July 25, 2014 at 7:09 pm Reservoir Tip

    Story:

    Spent the day with some super feminist chick I met via Tinder. Picked her brain a bit. Sweet girl, but really had no idea what she was talking about. Slut walker, wage gap believing feminist type.

    Never in my life have I had a girl who liked rough sex as much as she did. I was doing stuff that I almost felt embarrassed about, but she was eating it up. Slapping, choking, bending her over my knee spanking her ass.

    She even admitted, “yeah… It’s sort of my outlet from feminism. I need to feel out if control sometime.”

    Boy does she…

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:11 pm Tim

      Exactly why I don’t understand, for example, why people look at SF as one of the “worst” places for dating. People complain about ‘liberal feminists’ but if they actually had a bit of experience they’d understand how loose and crazy many of these chicks are. But hey, good luck in Russia with chicks only interested in your money guys!

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:19 pm Jeff

      feminist cunts are pretty much all like that. They like male dominance the most. They’re fun.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 12:03 am Mean Mr Mustard

      Most of the time; what women, particularly feminist women say, should be taken as seriously as what a five year old girl says about what she wants to be when she grows up.

      Fuck them for as long as you can and be prepared to walk away the moment their bullshit outweighs the enjoyment or pleasure of fucking them.

      Lets face it, for a vast proportion of the fuckable female population, their primary value is as a life support system for a vagina and other usefully moist orifices.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 12:16 am Backdoor Man

        This is harsher than my style, but I’ll give it two thumbs up because I have been drinkinghb.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:56 pm OSP

        COTW

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 5:31 pm desidaasi

      Giggle. It’s not just the feminist types who like this. And please don’t be embarrassed about it. I am an extremely submissive woman who believes in traditional roles and I love being dominated by my husband, my Master both inside and outside our bedroom. You cannot imagine the sexual highs I feel when my Master totally has his way with me. I sometimes feel guilty that I regularly have multiple orgasms for each one he experiences.

      I think it is the dopamine rush from anticipation of extreme pleasure that I crave. When I hand over total control and don’t know what he might demand of me next, the unpredictability and novelty of it all gives a ridiculous dopamine high which is then followed by mind blowing sex and multiple orgasms, but all with a person that I trust with my life.

      That is why I sometimes don’t understand why more women are not into this. If only they knew what kind of extreme pleasures they could have if they just dropped all their political correctness nonsense. It is the best thing I have done in my marriage. I have given up control and freedom and have embraced Consensual Slavery, but oh my sweet lord, I wonder how many feminists have ever experienced the intense multiple orgasms I have experienced. I am addicted to this Master/Slave lifestyle now. I can never ever go back to a vanilla marriage.

      This is what perhaps she wanted to experience with you. Hugs

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  47. on July 25, 2014 at 7:12 pm blogster

    Yes. The more I have viewed all social interactions as economics and by thinking about concept of value, the better my mindset and the better my results. Now I think – what value do I have? what do I bring to the table? And consciously work on this. Further, I look at the women around me and think, what value do they have what value do they bring to the table?

    One of the key mechanisms by which corrupt ideologies such as feminism works is the presentation of them as the ‘default’ and ‘normal’ and convincing those affected that ‘this is the natural order of things’.

    You know this to be the case when you have former friends/societal AFCs spouting ridiculous crap such as ‘the wage gap’. Yet when you de-construct their argument logically, step by step, the cognitive dissonance starts to creep in and the rationalisation mechanisms come in one-by-one until they resort to, ‘we’ll everyone is saying it,so it must be true’. You’re then viewed as ‘troubled’ or ‘offensive’ or having ‘problems’ because you don’t follow this apparent societal norm that has been implanted.

    When it comes to dating Anglo women (I am Australian, but the same impacts of feminism are common throughout) there is this same process at play. Australian Anglo-women are extremely nationalistic when it comes to the SMP. Those belonging to this group have increasingly benefited from a SMP cartel (or union) with feminism based rules of the game for some time. However, the continued influx of Asian, Indian, South American and Europeans is a massive threat.

    Why? Because for the first few generations at least, these women operate outside this agreement and are therefore a threat to the vested interests. And I see it around me. As feminism has simultaneously raised the upfront investment costs and ongoing operational costs, whilst decreasing the return on investment and heightening the risk, of sexual/relationship encounters, men are switching to the less regulated market. The ‘locked in’ value proposition women thought they had with feminism is at risk.

    Years ago I had a Malaysian girlfriend. She came over to study with her sister. Spoke five languages, became a CPA, had played chess for 15 years. Didn’t drink unless with dinner or one-on-one with me or her friends’ places. Wore feminine dresses, cooked meals for me. When we were out and about, she would hold onto my arm (the classical Asian wrap around the crook of your elbow). If talking to a shopkeeper or someone on the street, she would look to me for the lead.

    Both of us would get stares from Anglo women – she would get absolute daggers bordering on hatred. I would get the slightly confused/slightly hurt “whats his problem with me?” look. I also observed an interesting phenomenon – several times when getting table service at a restaurant, the waitress would gush over me and focus solely on me and ignore my girlfriend – they would somehow think they were above my girlfriend and thought it an easy win, a way to prove their value over the outsider. LOL.

    Whilst still here in Australia, I have refined by market strategy as a result – niche market, check list of tells and indicators etc etc. The niche is significant here in Australia now, provided you are willing to work it.

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  48. on July 25, 2014 at 7:15 pm FamilyMan

    I thought the hate for Roosh was exclusively from bitchy women and white knight men. Most others either have never heard of him, or are just fine with him, from what I’ve seen.

    It’s a freakin’ arbitrage opportunity, guys. Seriously. As for “our women”, enough years of experience with them convinced me that even though their skin looked like mine (not much smoother, either) they were not my soul mates. It was like I am from a different dimension than they are. The same is true with respect to other women, but their superior cultural traditions make interactions more pleasant.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 10:00 pm midnight toker

      @FamilyMan

      thank you.

      all the white unity and superiority crap is getting pretty old.

      i get the whole white pride thing. i’m as white as they come and proud of it. but let’s be serious about the facts here. i’m not setting for a white girl who has a shitty personality and is less attractive than other girls just because she’s white. that’s moronic.

      speaking of beautiful skin…
      white skin is great in print and on the screen but it isn’t all that pretty in real life. do white girls spend hours sunbathing or going tanning just for kicks? no. they do it because their skin looks better when it’s darker.

      most white girls have skin that is freckled or ruddy and wrinkled from bad diets and too much partying. or they cover their skin in hideous tattoos and piercings. even if you can get lucky enough to find one with a decent personality who isn’t covered in ugly body art, she won’t age as well as naturally tan girls. white chicks always look old sooner even when they take care of themselves.

      i’ll take a latina or an asian girl over a white girl any day. feminine, pleasant personalities and caramel skin that you don’t have to pay for. nothing beats beautiful caramel skin on a perfect latina ass or on those perky asian tits. once you’ve been there, there’s no going back.

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  49. on July 25, 2014 at 7:17 pm FamilyMan

    This study shows that women prefer aloof, non-responsive men in first-date situations.

    But of course that fact is buried and even misrepresented, saying men have a “choice”. (A choice to succeed by being aloof, or fail by being responsive.) There’s also the obvious conclusion that men prefer responsive women.

    http://www.livescience.com/47010-why-men-prefer-nice-women.html

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  50. on July 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm Cauthon

    Brilliant

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  51. on July 25, 2014 at 7:54 pm Jeff

    I’m sure white American men do great with Russians and Asians (after all, they do great with Asians here in America). Why don’t people move? Because this is my (our) country. Our families are here and our friends are here. We speak English.

    I’m not even attracted to most Asian girls. I have no dislike or hatred for guys like Roosh who travel to get women – I kind of admire it. But it’s not for me – I prefer to spend my time fighting the war to take back my own country from feminists and faggots. And hammering down some inflated American white female egos while I’m at it.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 8:51 pm MindFucked

      I used to think like you do. 50 years ago your attitude would have made perfect sense because back then the problem was tractable and could have been nipped in the bud.

      But now, the tumor has metastasized and spread. America is a terminal cancer patient. If current demographic trends continue (and there’s no sign I can see that they’ll stop) then by 2050, only 47% of Americans will be white. In 1960, 85% of Americans were white. I can’t think of another nation in history which has committed demographic seppuku the way we have. I predict two futures. One, the country will remain a unified republic with a racial caste system which is even starker than it is today, a la Brazil. Two, as white racial consciousness increases over the coming decades, Americans with European heritage will carve out a chunk of land for themselves and split off from the decaying federal mass, which will spiral out of control with shrinking tax revenues and exploding entitlement spending to non economically productive groups.

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    • on July 27, 2014 at 8:47 am Ian

      When I was a kid, we couldn’t fish, because the city harbor had no fish, so we used to go crabbing instead, nearly every day when school was off, mostly spider crabs. Years later, trying to research them online, I couldn’t recognize the species – where was the brown mold, warty tumors, ruined legs?

      Very similar for the city’s young women, when I discovered 1st-gens after high school – looks like a potential partner, but where were the tattoos, the HPV, muffin-tops, crushed hope?

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  52. on July 25, 2014 at 8:27 pm MindFucked

    Ha.. I was wondering why my comment didn’t show up. Turns out it became a post!

    I’ve used a variety of fake pictures as well to test female reactions to different kinds of men in various countries and cities. I’ve come to the conclusion that the more entrenched feminism is in a city/region, the more the women there crave non-white cock from cultures which haven’t been emasculated by equalist ideologies. For example, Sweden is ground zero for feminist shitlibbery. Make a profile of a black guy in Stockholm and see what happens. It’s not quite as insane as a white man in Asia, but it’s definitely surprising.

    You might say this is due to the novelty factor, and that probably plays a part, but keep in mind that Stockholm is 27% non-Swedish and has tons of 3rd world immigrants which you’d think would lessen any novelty effects. If you try the same move in Paris or Berlin (located in countries which haven’t internalized suicidal beliefs to quite the same degree as Sweden and which have comparable minority demographics) the female reception to our fictional brotha is rather chillier.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 4:44 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I think there’s another thing at play. The reality is that Sweden imports a far lower quality of immigrant than Germany or France. Sure, the new ‘French’ that set cars ablaze aren’t much to show for, but there are more black men in France than in Sweden and out of those, they are better selected for not being filth. This is why I assume being a black guy that isn’t some ghetto denizen attracts far more attention in Sweden. Maybe you could try this with different personas for the guy and see what happens. lol

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 4:47 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      To explain my other comment. Yes, Stockholm is 27% non-Swedish, but there are plenty of other Europeans there that are part of that 27% and the remainder is mostly asylum seekers. I don’t know if Sweden has internalized more insanity than Germany. If you lived in the same city, I’d definitely be up for buying a case of beer and running an experiment with various profiles and personalities attached to the fake men, but I can’t be assed into doing it by myself.

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  53. on July 25, 2014 at 9:09 pm Libertardian

    I’ve enjoyed serving under you ma’am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2706260/First-woman-commander-Navy-warship-sent-home-affair-male-officer-board.html

    “First woman commander of Navy warship is sent home over ‘affair with male officer’ on board”

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  54. on July 25, 2014 at 9:36 pm Nicole

    Recently, I got into a conversation with a couple of Phillipine women in a pub discussing “white” men. They told me, as if I needed warning, to be careful because they (you) are all perverts. They’ve heard stories from friends and family of western men marrying them, taking them to the U.S. and then before the ink is dry, the crazy sexual demands start.

    I don’t think foreign women actually like western men more because of better treatment. Most of them I’ve spoken to think you are monsters, but the money is good.

    Scottish men are the exception though. For some reason, they have a good reputation. My own experiences can confirm this. They are a breed apart.

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  55. on July 25, 2014 at 10:24 pm Anonymous

    I’ve always wanted to move to Spain one day, though probably not anytime soon because of their poor economy. I’m Canadian and I’ve heard it’s extremely difficult to move there since you have to get things like work visas, passports, etc. and I’m obviously not from a country that’s part of the EU. If anyone has any advice let me know. But I’ve heard lots of great things about the lifestyle and the women.

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    • on July 25, 2014 at 11:06 pm bo jangles

      20% of spanish men marry a woman from another country..feminists have a strong position there. They typically marry brazillians colombians or venezuelans..go there instead.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 4:01 am Anon.

      Spain is also tough for game.

      It is the European counterpart of Argentina.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 4:13 am Caramba

        Spain is tough for game,I confirm. probably the toughest in Europe.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 5:11 am James

        Why is Spain so tough for game? If it’s anything like Argentina I thought it would be great since I was under the impression that Argentinian women were pretty open with their sexuality.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:24 am corvinus

        Spanish women are not that great, really, probably below white American women in quality. Also, because of a plunge in the birth rate they had in the 1960s and 1970s, the sex ratio completely stinks, and you don’t have the advantage of being white like you would in a similar Asian country like South Korea.

        In fact, according to Roosh, “hordes” of Spanish men are swamping Eastern Europe looking for sex. If they can’t find love at home, it’d be that much more difficult for a foreigner with no local connections.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:29 am corvinus

        Sorry, make that the late 1970s and 1980s for the birth rate plunge — it was after Franco died in 1975 and Spain went crazy leftard. (Portugal is similar to Spain demographically.)

        Argentina’s population pyramid is far better, and from what Roosh describes, they’re just as cute as Eastern Europeans. However, they do have a more puritanical Catholic attitude than the more secular Spanish women and are more likely to wait till marriage. The upside, I suppose, is that they don’t mind your aggressively pursuing them like American women would, so you can actually pursue them and it won’t turn them off unless you get emotionally attached.

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 4:41 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I will advise you to pursue another country first, become an EU citizen there and then move to Spain. With the basket case that the Spanish economy is, I assume getting work visas there is incredibly difficult, but I have no idea how it works exactly. There’s also the problem that Eastern Europeans flocked to Spain and Italy so that makes the job situation even worse.

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  56. on July 25, 2014 at 10:45 pm Manila Ice

    “China blocks Tinder so it doesn’t work there, but it works in every other Asian country.”

    White guy in the Philippines and, no, Tinder is not available here or in most Asian countries. Its not “blocked” to my knowledge but the devs didnt make it available in the app store probably to ward off scammers. They made a similar app that works just for Asia.

    That said, Tinder and game in general are absolute overkill unless youre a complete mess.

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  57. on July 25, 2014 at 11:02 pm Ang Aamer

    I agree game is overkill in most asian countries

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  58. on July 25, 2014 at 11:03 pm bo jangles

    Its not just the beauty its the attitude. Girls actively looking for ways to turn you on more..to be more beautiful, to be more charming, and more tolerant of your shortcomings.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 11:21 pm Nicole

      From what I’ve heard, and experienced when I play foreign as a filter, the “more tolerant of your shortcomings” means more tolerant of all the porn inspired perversions you people expect them to put up with.

      When you can’t find an American woman who will go there, you get a foreign woman to do it. Ugh.

      You know, most guys posting here aren’t looking for someone to be more “tolerant of their shortcomings”. They’re looking for someone who simply recognizes their manhood for what it is, and hasn’t been soul killed by a constant flow of television, antidepressants, birth control pills, and feminism.

      Leave that weak shit out of this. Nobody sane is looking for a captive they can emotionally abuse into monogamous non intercourse circus performing.

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  59. on July 25, 2014 at 11:06 pm Scott

    I slept with a fob Filipina 7 on the first date a couple years ago. She acted all lovey-dovey afterwards and made me promise I would call her. Might not seem like a big deal to all the alphas here, but keep in mind I can typically only get obese girls.

    Another bonus to sleeping with Filipinas: if your penis is over 6″, they’ll think you’re Jonah Falcon.

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  60. on July 25, 2014 at 11:09 pm Ronin

    Even if you go abroad, it seems women still don’t like nice men

    http://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269

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  61. on July 25, 2014 at 11:41 pm David

    A UFC fighter who wants to gag and bound his conquests.

    Decadent American women will now be stalking this alpha ’til the day he dies:

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  62. on July 26, 2014 at 2:49 am Lazer

    I expatriated. There is no hype. Maybe its the country I went to, but there is a domino’s down the street and I see as many fat ugly girls here that I did back home. Hell, here girls wear even more makeup, have fake contacts, and own two cellphones, and are way more vapid then any bar slut. The men are even more feminized here as well. The problem is a systemic and pervasive plot to turn the whole planet into a giant concentration camp. Men have been feminized, trained to hate the inalienable rights protected by the constitution, and have extremely low testosterone. I suspect only a handful of men alive today have read the document. Even less the federalist papers.

    Not only that the Manospherists have a need to keep the lies going. Little do they know their behavior is subconscious and subtle change in the brainwashing of the elites of the planet. It is merely a plot to subvert the constitution at the individual level. It also pits white men against white women to make the elites plan come full circle. (Or neanderthal men vs neanderthal women from what the scientific facts say.) The entire planet is a hell hole, not just the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America, and its only going to get worst.

    Manoshperist=Liberal in hiding.

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  63. on July 26, 2014 at 3:09 am driveallnight

    Hi.

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  64. on July 26, 2014 at 3:09 am driveallnight

    Lol.

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  65. on July 26, 2014 at 3:19 am Daily Linkage – July 26, 2014 | The Dark Enlightenment

    […] The Value Of White American Men In The Overseas Sexual Market | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  66. on July 26, 2014 at 4:01 am rastov

    Who wants to move to another country to find a girl, leaving family, friends, work etc.? Girls are the last after the family, friends etc. We want to be happy where we live, at home. Starting a new life in a new country takes at least 5 years, and it doesnt mean we will be as successful as in our countries. It is gambling.

    We are not hedonistic animals in the end.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 4:12 am Caramba

      Depends on how thirsty you are.If you have no options, you will be happy to move to an Ukrainian shit-hole and claim yourself as an “international playboy”, while in reality you are just a bottom feeding omega.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 6:43 am Anonymous

        Right. Moving to another country to find a girl is not the best decision if you are not getting success in your country. I dont mean moving for the purpose of writing Ebooks to earn money. Roosh analogy is not correct in this respective. He earns money writing about new country girls. It is his nice. 99,9999% of guys are not like him.

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  67. on July 26, 2014 at 5:06 am Helmut

    No.We dont want to see european wannabe americans flooding our countries.Stay in your fucked up country and leave us be.Go to Africa or Asia.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 6:50 am Suburban_elk

      Are white Americans flooding your countries, or are Africans and Asians?

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:32 am Helmut

        Just because niggers and asians are already here it doesnt mean we want more non-europeans here too.Mix with your own kind,stay in america,leave us Europeans alone.

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  68. on July 26, 2014 at 6:44 am betterthantheoriginalwally

    America has far more 9s and 10s than Asia. Asian babes rarely come in over 8.5. America at the other end of the scale has far more 1s and 2s. America does the extremes well. Extremely good and extremely wrong. East Asia has masses of 6s, 7s and 8s. The consistency (mainly due to not being fat and actually dressing femininely) is where Asia does well.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 6:53 am Zombie Shane

      Wally – you’re describing the difference between a bell curve with a “fat” tail, i.e. lots of outliers [mathematically, a high standard deviation] versus a bell curve which clusters much more sharply around its mean, i.e. very few outliers [mathematically, a low standard deviation, and physically more akin to a Dirac delta function].

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 7:12 am Zombie Shane

        One obvious biological explanation would be that, very early on, whites eschewed the “Big Man” model of society, in favor of “1-Man/1-Woman”, which lead to a much greater biological diversity of population than what you find in an orientalistic society.

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 7:20 am Zombie Shane

        Whereas in an orientalistic society, dominated by “Big Men” with hundreds [if not thousands] of wives – a King Solomon or a Genghis Khan or an Emir of Kuwait – you would expect to see much less diversity in the population, since the “Big Man” model so badly skews the genetics towards structural incest.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 8:12 am LP

      What are we talking about when we say “Asia?” That’s a whole lot of territory to cover. We know Jap girls are out because the culture has gone asexual, and China is going to be dominated by a male population soon enough. Thailand is becoming westernized, hilariously, because of the influx of Euro’s, Australians and Americans that have flocked there.
      That leaves…South Korea?

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  69. on July 26, 2014 at 6:44 am thwack

    Can I get a hotter white woman in Europe?

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 8:53 am Greg Eliot

      Sure… start with Serbia… they luv da bruthas there, so I’m told.

      Note, though: ust a minute ago you were selling wuff tickets about how the white hotties wuz already parked out front of yo’ crib. :duckface:

      ‘Tis to lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozl.

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 9:03 am A Random Guy

      Go for one of the Kardashian sisters – they will fuck pretty much anything…

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 9:54 am thwack

        Does that make your mother Armenian?

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      • on July 26, 2014 at 11:55 am Greg Eliot

        Hey, man… get off the mothers!

        I got off yours about an hour ago.

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  70. on July 26, 2014 at 8:03 am desidaasi

    Looks like this business is booming and not just for marriage. Men are voting with their feet and wallet. Good for them

    http://fortune.com/2013/04/09/the-mail-order-bride-boom/

    Having said that, just be careful guys. There are a lot of scammers out there. And in some of these countries, if you get on the wrong side of the law, even by mistake, you could get more than you bargained for.

    Also, I think the feminists here are not going to take this lying down. They have already used a few abuses as excuses to create roadblocks with regulation like the one below

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Marriage_Broker_Regulation_Act

    I suspect they will try and make it even harder for men to do this in the future. Look at their attitude to prostitution and porn. They want to take away as many choices as they can from men, so that men can only play along the narrow fairway of “Western Feminism”

    Hugs

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  71. on July 26, 2014 at 12:02 pm The value of Black Men in the Overseas Sexual Market | Transparent Society

    […] not discussed quite often. The value of white American men in the overseas sexual market found here. As an African man born and raised in the motherland until the rip age of 18-19 before debarking in […]

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    • on July 26, 2014 at 12:25 pm KungPoon

      Don’t go to Eastern Europe or Russia. They hate blacks. A girl who has anything to do with them is ostracized. Even the lighter Armenians and Georgians are called “black asses” or niggers.

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      • on July 30, 2014 at 10:22 am Transparent Society

        I’ve been to eastern Europe multiple times and always enjoyed it. I heard good things about russians

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  72. on July 26, 2014 at 12:39 pm AlphaBeta

    Science proves women don’t like nice guys http://www.psypost.org/2014/07/men-prefer-nice-women-responsiveness-desire-26800

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  73. on July 26, 2014 at 3:32 pm Therajraj

    I’m a canadian born ethnic Indian (dot not feather) currently on my first trip to eastern and Central Europe. I went wroclaw based on roosh’s advice and am currently in Prague.

    While I’m swarthy the average level of game by western standards is a joke. I’m literally walking up to girls asking for a basic piece of information (directions) then transitioning by telling them they’re beautiful. If I could describe the game style that works here it would be ‘confident beta.’ Honestly if you guys saw the softness of my text convos in comparison to heartiste’s terse text game your jaw would drop.

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  74. on July 26, 2014 at 6:58 pm bischbubba

    Teddy summed up the haters’ attitudes toward those like Roosh who are willing to risk, in this badass quote.

    “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
    ― Theodore Roosevelt

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  75. on July 27, 2014 at 4:22 am Jabber

    My aloof asshole game really turns off the chubsters. They fucking hate me! The obvious contempt for me is quite laughable, I like it!

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    • on July 29, 2014 at 5:37 pm corvinus

      It’s sort of the flip side of hot women recoiling from beta males. They figure if you’re that aloof, you’re attractive to better women, and therefore you’ll run off with a hot woman, leaving her as a single mom.

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  76. on July 27, 2014 at 12:34 pm Broadsman

    Looks I’ll be working in Abu Dhabi on a long term job, leaving in a few weeks. It’s a comfy, well-paid, high status, ex-pat professional gig, working in an office in downtown AD. The raw gender demographics look terrible – 2 males to 1 female in the bang-able age groups.

    Looks like pretty of prostitutes from many countries milk the petrodollars. Nearby Dubai is even more so.

    Will I have to resort to pay-for-play or are there other opportunities, like tourists? What’s the best match country of origin?

    I’ll be making long business trips to Seoul, Korea too.

    Any sharing of experiences or advice would be appreciated.

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  77. on July 27, 2014 at 11:46 pm Anonymous

    I have expatriated and live with my beautiful wife in Latin America. It has been wonderful.
    By contrast, the typical American women has little cache overseas. She has to wait for the high school reunion, where she convinces the old flame to make a second go of it and clean up the mess from her first marriage.

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  78. on July 28, 2014 at 4:32 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    The problem with this is that the American higher SMV exists only within the foreign country. Eastern European women are more eager with Western European and American men not just because of the same reason Western girls fuck non-whites, but also because living in Eastern Europe is rather crappy if you’re a woman. I do advise any man traveling to this part of the world to be cautious about it because women are manipulative everywhere and the whole allure you have mostly works for a short fling during which she fantasizes about how you will take her to your country and everything will be nice.

    This also mainly applies to white Americans, but I assume any ethnicity from there would have a plus over being from here(aka if you’re a black dude living here, you will do worse than an African-American).

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  79. on July 28, 2014 at 7:39 pm J Bone Pounder

    CH,
    Youre a bad ass blogger but I dont have all day to read blogs.

    Could you make an e-book on the best lines, text messages, story telling, nlp patterns, logistics moves, etc. to go from open to close?

    Make the book ruthless and no non-sense like your writing style. Hamster domination and insemination!

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    • on July 28, 2014 at 7:45 pm CH

      it’s coming.

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  80. on July 29, 2014 at 2:37 pm al

    African American men abroad ???? Black God Factor.

    NBA: Nuthin’ But Ass……….

    apparently this notion is so disturbing to whites that it has caused tension on Roosh’s blog – to the point of him even hating on aBlack guy who is having success with white broads in Russia and Cyprus and documents his experiences on video.

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    • on July 29, 2014 at 5:29 pm markpower49mark power

      Who wants a girl after she has been with a scientifically proven sub-human?

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    • on July 30, 2014 at 10:23 am Transparent Society

      http://transparentsociety.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/the-value-of-black-men-in-the-overseas-sexual-market/

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  81. on July 30, 2014 at 3:13 am Taj

    Heartiste

    Will you ever produce a compendium or time full of clever lexicons to dominate the hamster from cold approach to post bang management?
    I’m from Appalachia I need your wit. The Universe wasn’t so good to us on the Welsch scale.

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  82. on July 30, 2014 at 10:23 am Transparent Society

    I wrote an article that deals with black men in the overseas sexual market, check it put at http://transparentsociety.wordpress.com

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  83. on August 3, 2014 at 7:52 pm Ash Loggins

    any idea which app was used to change Tinder’s location? Want to do this so I can pipeline before arriving in new countries.

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