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Spot The Alpha

September 26, 2014 by CH

I expect a few literal-minded readers to take the wrong lesson from this photo. “Phonebomb game! So if I just check my phone over the shoulder of a girl I’m kissing, she’ll notice out of the corner of her smitten eye and fall harder for me.”

While Phonebomb Game may very well increase your desirability to girls, the real game lesson to draw from this snapshot is how behaviors, brash and subtle, reflect a man’ attitude toward life and women. This guy, looking kind of dorky truth be told, is wrapped in the arms of a girl, looking kind of pretty in profile, because he undoubtedly possesses the sort of alpha male insouciance toward life and romance, as demonstrated in his cavalier division of attention between girl and phone, that drives women crazy with lust.

If he’s checking for texts from other girls in his rotation, then the odds this particular girl has relinquished her backdoor to him are 30% higher.

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Spot the alpha, part 2.

Tight, solid, thick lack of PDA. I wanna see just how aloof he can get.

We can say that alpha males universally never appear needy.

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Spot the alpha, part 3.

Aloofness level unlocked: Whirlpoolside.

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  1. on September 26, 2014 at 11:46 am Spot The Alpha | Manosphere.com

    […] Spot The Alpha […]

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 9:37 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Call me da GBFM. Some years ago—never mind how long precisely—having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people’s hats off—then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me. lzozozllzlzlzlzozzloz

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 12:13 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        spot da alphasz!!!!

        lzozozlzlozolz

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm Zombie Shane

        GOP ELITES FINALLY DISCOVER EVO-PSYCH!!!!!

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 12:38 pm Zombie Shane

        Liberals Going Crazy Over New Ad that Skewers Obama; “Stupid *** Racist Piece of ****”
        http://thepunditpress.com/2014/09/27/liberals-going-crazy-over-new-ad-that-skewers-obama-stupid-racist-piece-of/

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm Zombie Shane

        *** have been polluting the culture with this shit for at least two God-damned decades [cf below from 1995] and the GOP finally figures out what’s happening?!?
        http://books.google.com/books?id=GvIDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA4&lpg=PA4&dq=Thousands+of+women+having+sex+dreams+about+Bill+Clinton!

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 5:30 pm Sam

        Lolz. Round the world! There is much in that sound to inspire proud feelings; but whereto does all that circumnavigation conduct? Only through numberless perils to the very point whence we started, where those that we left behind secure, were all the time before us.
        Were this world an endless plain, and by sailing eastward we could forever reach new distances, and discover sights more sweet and strange than any Cyclades or Islands of King Solomon, then there were promise in the voyage. But in pursuit of those far mysteries we dream of, or in tormented chase of that demon phantom that, some time or other, swims before all human hearts; while chasing such over this round globe, they either lead us on in barren mazes or midway leave us whelmed.

        Bring da movies.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 9:00 am Kate

        LOL

        “Who told thee that?” cried Ahab; then pausing, “Aye, Starbuck; aye, my hearties all round; it was Moby Dick that dismasted me; Moby Dick that brought me to this dead stump I stand on now. Aye, aye,” he shouted with a terrific, loud, animal sob, like that of a heart-stricken moose; “Aye, aye! it was that accursed white whale that razeed me; made a poor pegging lubber of me for ever and a day!” Then tossing both arms, with measureless imprecations he shouted out: “Aye, aye! and I’ll chase him round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames before I give him up. And this is what ye have shipped for, men! to chase that white whale on both sides of land, and over all sides of earth, till he spouts black blood and rolls fin out. What say ye, men, will ye splice hands on it, now? I think ye do look brave.”

        Revenge…is it worth it?

        No.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 9:37 am VRW

      Smoke signals were just fine for long distance communication thank you very much

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 8:14 am thwack

        Tarzan yell

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  2. on September 26, 2014 at 11:48 am Matador

    alpha? LOL checking your phone like a bitch ain’t alpha. Guy looks like a fag

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 11:51 am burke

      checking the phone isn’t the signal of alpha itself though. the fact that he’s detached enough from her that he’d check his phone while making out with a better looking girl than he is, is the reason he’s alpha-seeming and got her to begin with.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 12:43 pm Mac

        @ Joey and Laguna Beach Fogey

        you guys are right to some extent. overuse of a phone can be beta. but in this context, the reverse is true.

        burke is right when he says “the fact that he’s detached enough from her that he’d check his phone while making out with a better looking girl than he is, is the reason he’s alpha-seeming and got her to begin with.”

        he is showing her that she isn’t the center of his universe. he’s not giving her his full attention. that is alpha.

        the opposite of that (beta) would be a guy who is with a hotter girl than himself and he never checks his phone because he is so into her that he can’t think of anything else or he is trying to give her his undivided attention because she demands it or expects it.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 5:41 pm Zombie Shane

        > “a guy who is with a hotter girl than himself and he never checks his phone because he is so into her that he can’t think of anything else” Have you ever looked at your parents’ wedding album pictures? Wouldn’t it be kinda, like, neat, if they were kinda, like, you know, into each other, before they got around to the making of you?

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 3:18 pm GCM

        The dude, typically of young guys in their early 20’s, on the phone was told by the chick to get a cab rather than drive home drunk. Not Alpha.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 6:18 pm gaoxiaen

        After getting a $2,300 fine and two years probation, I’m inclined to agree.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:20 pm Joey

      Where I work, being able to ignore the phone is a sign of being alpha. A week or two out of the office in a remote location with no phone calls is a status symbol. Can’t leave the phone? Then you’re the client’s and the boss’ bitch.

      The relationship between phones and men varies considerably between Gen X’ers and you young’ns.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 12:29 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Not even having a ‘phone is alpha as fuck. Alphas get their gf/secretary to handle their calls.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 1:03 pm sloppy joe

        “Then you’re the client’s and the boss’ bitch.”

        yup. these little computers people sometimes use to make phone call are simply the end of an invisible chain. comfortable slaves usually forget they’re slaves.

        guys pulled for thousands of years of civilization without their iDIOT toys.

        growing up it was always girls who obsessed about the phone. my mom was on it all the time. my dad never.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 5:28 pm Arbiter

        People are impressed if you know your way around technology, but then up and leave it once in a while for the forest. Not the beach, forest. Trendy bike routes? Maybe. But forest. Tent and oil lamp and sleeping bag and shaving in a stream of cold running water. Canned food and hot water flavored with pine needles. Dirt and rain and heat and cold. Heat small rocks by the camp fire and put one behind your knees and hold one between your hands for warmth as you sleep. Replace the cellphone with a knife that is practical but not the least bit fashionable, a knife you have owned for decades. Bonus points if your father owned it before you. Really, every father should give his son a trusty knife.

        Just leave and go out there for a while and then come back. Women will ask, but what did you do? Did you at least bring a meditation session on your mp3 player? Hell no. You were out in nature, that’s it.

        It’s frightening to some. The forest is a threat to them. The forest without fashionable hiking trappings. Just the forest. They can’t understand it. But you can. Or should. There’s a solid truth out there, the truth that the real world is as unchanging as ever, and you either adapt to it or you freeze to death, as an individual or a group. You can understand it mentally, I’m sure. But you have to feel it in your very bones. It has to engulf you, for hours, frighten you and amaze you, bother you and never leave you, force you to go to sleep in the midst of it all because there’s no other place to sleep. And in the end you become that knowledge.

        It’s nothing fancy. It’s just the hard physical reality, and you find it out there. Go where many men have gone before, but no woman if she didn’t have to.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 1:33 pm Zombie Shane

      I’m becoming a luddite on this technology shit – it’s destroying our hearts and our minds and our souls. Not enough people have the strength of character to resist it. Women in particular – I feel like the smartphone has done more damage to the female sex in just the last five years than the birth control pill did in the last 50 years.Take a cue from the Amish, and just walk away from all this nihilism.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 2:03 pm kant

        WTF are you talking about? having a smartphone allows me to get laid 1500% more than my father ever could have ever done 25 years ago

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm Zombie Shane

        And how many live births has that 1500% more fornication resulted in? How many Kant Jrs [== Hegels? Nietzsches?] do you have runnning around Chez Immanuel?

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 2:25 pm sloppy joe

        “having a smartphone allows me to get laid 1500% more than my father ever could have ever done 25 years ago”

        gay sex doesn’t count.

        i’ve worked with my fair share of beaner fagitos. they were all obsessed with gangbangs too.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 3:19 pm Zombie Shane

        I watch these women all day with their smartphones glued to their noses and they disappear into Wonder Land and if it weren’t for the God-damned battery going dead, THEY WOULD NEVER COME BACK OUT AGAIN!!! This shit is destroying peoples’ souls. Dehumanizing them. Turning them into God-only-knows what kind of psychiatric basket cases. And it will all end in extinction.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 6:49 pm ‘Reality’ Doug

        More faith in natural selection please. Those who are tools of technology won’t be the movers and shakers of the future any more than those who abstain altogether. I notice the addiction to stimulus in coffee, music, web surfing. Unplugging is always a personal choice. And you’ll be back to this blog technology.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:08 pm wolfie65

        Some years ago, I went to Radio Shack to get a new battery for my by now ancient cell phone. The white-haired sales clerk told me that that model is no longer being made (which I knew), but if I wanted to buy a *real* phone (meaning latest most expensive), he could sell me one. I told hipster gramps that if by ‘real phone’ he means one with rotary dial, a receiver and a squiggly cord, hardwired into the wall, I’d take it. That shut him up good and I got my battery for free directly from the manufacturer.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:25 pm Will

        yeah man you gotta be texting at least 1 of the 15 girls every month don’t get behind bro

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 5:43 am Zombie Shane

        ‘Reality’ Doug, people who can’t even make it through a 2 min 30 sec slowdance grind & french kissing without checking on WTFE they’re addicted to in Wonderland are NEVER going to have children.They’re frigging extinct already and they don’t even realize it yet [and might never wake up and realize it simply because Wonderland is just too damned addictive fot them].

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 9:18 am David

        I’m feeling this too. I feel blue because I got laid from and 18yr old girl, only to find out that the darkness of nilhism and meaninglessness has encompassed her heart, parent issues as well. Just another prostitute, good for only one thing. Even at 18, she will never be marriage material, cold and calculated.
        I’m done with slutting around, done with poon for now. Concentrate on other things
        mgtow-life

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 3:38 pm GCM

        “And how many live births has that 1500% more fornication resulted in? How many Kant Jrs [== Hegels? Nietzsches?] do you have runnning around Chez Immanuel?”

        Who cares! Marriage and kids are for suckers.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 8:06 pm Lucius Somesuch

        Konigsberg’s Kaliningrad now, comrade

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 6:54 am Zombie Shane

        > “the darkness of nilhism and meaninglessness has encompassed her heart, parent issues as well” ||||| Couples who met online three times more likely to divorce ||||| Married couples who met online are three times more likely to divorce than those who met face-to-face… A study of more than 4,000 couples found that relationships were far more stable if couples met in traditional ways such as introductions by friends or through work, hobbies or socializing. ||||| http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3208661/posts

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 3:38 pm Greg Eliot

      “having a smartphone allows me to get laid 1500% more than my father ever could have ever done 25 years ago”

      gay sex doesn’t count.

      For the win. llzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozl

      I side with Zombie on this issue… the short attention span of today’s folks, young and old, makes me want to slap those infernal devices out of their mouth-breather hands.

      I had to finally break down and get a cell phone for certain gigs to report in and out… but Machete don’t text… and you should see the looks on women’s faces when I tell them I don’t want to put their numbers in my contact list…

      (mainly because all that phone call and text shit is traceable… but just on principle alone, I don’t want errant calls about inane chit-chat).

      What happens at Schloss Eliot stays at Schloss Eliot. 😉

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 6:08 pm cryo

        “I had to finally break down and get a cell phone for certain gigs to report in and out… but Machete don’t text… and you should see the looks on women’s faces when I tell them I don’t want to put their numbers in my contact list…”

        ::eyeroll::

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      • on September 30, 2014 at 11:04 am Greg Eliot

        Short attention span or disingenuous cutting short of the reason noted, boy.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 4:01 pm browndar

      “Guy looks like a fag”

      Yep, that was my first thought. He’s checking to see if his own backdoor man is rarin’ to stretch and tear his rectum.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:17 pm ZombieShame

      The whole purpose is to get the girl to desire you—so that you can enjoy her,not look at a phone.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 3:15 am Never Mind the Bulzac

        Not to brag (much), but at this very moment I have two strippers soundly sleeping in my apartment after being soundly banged all night (due in no small part to the application of some Heartiste “how to handle strippers” wisdom… Thanks CH)

        Anyway, as I’m sitting here reading this thread, with a Croissant and cappuccino – that I just popped out to get for myself (got them nothing btw) and thinking… I bet some guys on here will say eating croissants is gay and getting your own coffee is sooo beta.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 1:14 am Heywood Jablome

        I have two strippers soundly sleeping in my apartment

        Inventory your valuables after they leave. Skanks have sticky fingers.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 10:49 pm KP

        HJ: “Inventory your valuables after they leave..”

        Wouldn’t it be more useful to inventory them BEFORE they leave?

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 6:01 am Never Mind the Bulzac

        “Inventory your valuables after they leave. Skanks have sticky fingers”

        Thanks for the advice JH. I’ll try to keep clear of them there stripper chicks with their hot bodies and sticky faces.

        Truth is.. their valuables were in far more danger than mine

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 6:11 am Never Mind the Bulzac

        fingers, I meant sticky fingers

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  3. on September 26, 2014 at 11:49 am burke

    unless he’s so excited he’s taking a front-facing camera photo of his moment in the sun.

    he’s not though, his face has the right attitude, and i agree that attitude is the cause, not his particular actions with the phone. she is eyes-closed-engrossed, and he’s sort of meh and distracted. that’s a great way to be.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:25 pm ZombieShame

      But if he’s bored by a young pretty girl who’s makin out with him–what good is that?He just wants other MEN to see himwith the girl?You know what that means.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 2:02 pm Never Mind the Balsac

      For all we know this guy isn’t texting at all.

      Who’s to say he’s not taking a snapshot of another chicks ass.

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  4. on September 26, 2014 at 11:57 am earl

    That must mean 90% of American girls are alpha.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:25 pm Waffles

      LOL

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 3:39 pm Greg Eliot

      I thought we already had a winner above, but the judges have changed their cards. Well-played, sir.

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  5. on September 26, 2014 at 12:07 pm libertinedreams

    Better yet? Perhaps not, since he’s arguably higher status by default:

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:13 pm wolfie65

      Ok, that girl’s hot.
      Based on the guy’s appearance, I’d say he’s a musician checking in for a gig, and the girl’s telling him she’ll be there as soon as she can get out of her lifeless,boring job.
      No ‘Alpha’ , and the phone’s got shit to do with anything, but the kind of Sigma women dig.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:39 pm Anonymous

        Dunno…check the turkey neck. Am I the only one seeing him and his lukewarm, GILF action?

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  6. on September 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm The Burninator

    OT a bit, but what the fuck is that pink thing on the wrist of the girl in the background? Are we taking to strapping packs of cigarettes to our wrist these days, or does she have a fundamental understanding of what size a wrist watch should be?

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:17 pm Wilson

      Condom dispenser

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:17 pm Vidad

      Insulin drip?

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 12:58 pm Arbiter

      I believe it holds her cellphone.

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  7. on September 26, 2014 at 12:29 pm Reservoir Tip

    Speaking of cellphones…

    Another reason not to White Knight:

    Girl convenience store worker hit by goon. Man intervenes and throws down with the goon. Girl goes back to texting while the store erupts into a brawl.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf0_1411696634

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm KP

      OMG….

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  8. on September 26, 2014 at 1:00 pm Arbiter

    Judging from this picture only, I’d say both guys qualify. The one checking his phone, yes, if played right that is an alpha thing to do. But the guy in the background who is looking the girl in the eyes, nothing wrong with that either.

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  9. on September 26, 2014 at 1:10 pm cheesetrader

    I figured this was a trick question – the alpha is the dude in the back right looking down the blouse of pink box girl

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  10. on September 26, 2014 at 1:26 pm Vikingacolyte

    OT: Is a chick a femcunt? Check the 2D:4D ratio (indexfinger to ringfinger).
    http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fpsyg.2014.01011/full
    (Methods) “We therefore recruited our sample directly from the operational definition, that is, attendees at a feminist conference in Sweden.”

    “In summary, the feminist activist sample had a significantly smaller (i.e., masculinized) 2D:4D ratio than the general female samples. The size of this difference corresponds approximately to a 30% difference in prenatal testosterone/estradiol ratio, which was the index found to have the strongest association with 2D:4D (Lutchmaya et al., 2004). Directiveness self-ratings also exhibit a large and highly significant difference in the predicted direction. It is notable that the feminist activist sample 2D:4D was also more masculinized than those of the male comparison samples, except for the left hand in the aggregate sample”.

    Biology is a bitch, especially for those manboob feminists:)

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  11. on September 26, 2014 at 1:40 pm Opus

    My first reaction was that the two guys are English which makes telephone boy a tosser.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm Sentient

      Guys look English but the girls don’t. Maybe Brits on holiday in Spain or Portugal?

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm Sentient

        Or Paki’s

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  12. on September 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm ALPHAbetacal Order

    In years bygone, this example holds, but this is the era of Involuntary Social Network Disorder. Some millenial unable to pull himself away from a phone is indicative of a disorder, not SMV.

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  13. on September 26, 2014 at 2:04 pm Scray

    I actually think the black-shirted dude on the right looks way more alpha.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 2:32 pm kant

      I think CH’s is saying that while black-shirt dude might be the obvious, square jawed, natural born alpha, blue-shirt guy is alpha by sheer swagger, and achieving this is pretty much the point of this blog

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 4:45 pm Anonymous

        Maybe, but what makes black shirt guy alpha is the behavior he displays: eyes close, hands boldly on her waist. Notice she seems a little apprehensive at,but still submissive to his advance.

        It seems like blue shirt already got that girl awhile ago and is coasting. Black shirt is trying to trap some new pussy.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 3:10 pm JenkPac Shakur

      Agreed. The black shirt guy is completely in the zone with a natural alpha male dominant “I own your body” frame towards his girl. The guy with the phone looks like an uncomfortable recovering beta still in the “fake it till you make it” phase.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 3:45 pm Greg Eliot

      Do either of those guys even lift?

      lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozlozlozl

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 5:15 pm Arbiter

        Hah, yeah. When you start lifting you gain a new perspective on things. You can’t help looking down at guys who don’t work out. You think, they should be doing their part. Gain muscle mass not just for themselves but because it looks good, and it brings more masculinity into the world. And more testosterone, as weightlifting increases that.

        And also, they should strengthen themselves in order to be ready.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm Arbiter

        And on that note:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2769669/Feeling-anxious-Take-weights-class-Toned-muscles-block-stress-chemicals-reaching-brain.html

        Study: Big muscles prevent depression. They produce an enzyme called KAT that quickly neutralizes the stress chemical kynurenine, preventing it from reaching the brain.

        Muscly mice make more of protective proteins called KATs. These stop a stress chemical called kynurenine from travelling to the brain.

        The researchers from Stockholm’s Karolinska Institute showed that normal mice quickly become depressed when given kynurenine.

        But muscly mice were immune to the chemical.

        In fact, the amount of kynurenine in their blood never rose because the KAT enzymes in their bulging muscles quickly neutralised it.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 5:51 pm Scray

        Most natty bodybuilders look pretty skinny with their clothes on. If you want to be natty and look buff in clothes, you’re going to be a little pudgy.

        I personally don’t mind sacrificing bulk for leanness.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 6:21 pm Arbiter

        Most natty bodybuilders look pretty skinny with their clothes on. If you want to be natty and look buff in clothes, you’re going to be a little pudgy.

        I personally don’t mind sacrificing bulk for leanness.

        Most ignorant comment about working out that I’ve heard this year.

        “you’ll look fat!” says the guy who is too lazy to work out. Lie some more. I look buff and don’t look fat at all; my waist is slimmer than when I didn’t lift and only focused on lowering body fat. The guys at my gym who know how to lift for real don’t look fat either. Also, a guy who has just lifted for a few months doesn’t look “pretty skinny” with his clothes on. He looks far better than those who don’t lift, with a slim waist, wide chest and strong arms and legs. Maybe you should stick to things you know something about.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm Scray

        Well, first of all you strawmanned what I said into some form of “you’ll look fat if you try to work out/lift.”

        ‘You’ll look fat’ says the guy who’s too lazy to workout,’ waist looks slimmer than before lifting, etc. Then you talk about how people who lift look better than people who don’t lift. Or in other words, present counter-arguments to an argument no one made.

        Lifting is fine and great, and I’ve posted several times to that effect — so maybe it’s you who should “stick to things you know something about.”

        There’s just reasonable limits on muscle/fat ratios.

        “The naturally lean and muscular body is a skinny one. The human body CANNOT produce excessive muscular size while maintaining low body-fat. A natural trainer has two options: be lean and muscular but look skinny in clothing or be big and look somewhat muscular in clothing but also be relatively fat.”
        http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/10/26/the-secret-to-gaining-muscle-part-ii-the-truth-about-steroids/

        Reason 2 you don’t look like you lift, according to this source:
        “The images of steroid addicts are used to determine how one is supposed to look when he/she lifts. They’re everywhere – on supplements, magazines, web-pages…That affects the general perception and causes pipe dreams to arise. People buy supplements with cool names and take them religiously hoping that one day they will look like they lift.

        That day never comes.

        You can’t expect to look like the steroid users naturally, ever. This is pretty hard for some to understand, because the images of muscle men we have in our brains have been installed their since young age through various moronic forms of entertainment such as wrestling and action movies like Rambo.”

        http://nattyornot.com/truth-dont-look-like-lift/

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:03 pm Scray

        Main response in moderation, but the tl;dr Arbiter is that your whole post is a strawman of what I said. I never said “don’t lift,” or that “lifting won’t make you look better.” So you’re working yourself into a hostile huff over nothing.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 1:05 am [S]

        @Arbiter

        He was talking about natural vs enhanced/AAS using lifters.

        Big
        Lean
        Natural

        You can only choose 2.

        Big & Natural (But high bodyfat comparatively)
        Lean & Natural (Small in clothes)
        Big & Lean (Juiced)

        A good way to determine your maximum muscular potential as a natural is your height in centimetres, minus 100. Eg 180cm-100 = 80kg in contest condition (5% bodyfat). Not just having abs in a certain lighting condition.

        “Also, a guy who has just lifted for a few months doesn’t look “pretty skinny” with his clothes on. He looks far better than those who don’t lift, with a slim waist, wide chest and strong arms and legs. ”

        Will they look better than before they started training? Yes. Will they look impressive? No. Unfortunately the internet has skewed the perception of what is achievable with training & bodybuilding. We have “fake naturals” to thank for that.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 8:18 am Greg Eliot

        Hell, I was just making an internet meme joke as a jibe at their skinny arms.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:34 pm ZombieShame

      Black shirt looks like Rob Pattenson.The blonde guys bitch is a dream.Look how she is so into kissing him.He shouldn’t be worried bout a phone, less he’s getting a call from Greg Elliot!

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 8:36 pm Greg Eliot

        Avaunt, you fairy!

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 8:17 am Greg Eliot

        Thanks for handling my light work. lozlzozlzozlzolzolz

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  14. on September 26, 2014 at 2:07 pm infobravenewman

    Seems more like a case of ‘the phone is more important than what i’m doing right now’ to me

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  15. on September 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm JenkPac Shakur

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ve seen beta males on their iFags while driving, but the majority of dangerous, oblivious drivers w/ phone are female. I’m sure the dumb bitches have very important things to say. The people with the least to say talk the most.

    #textingwhiledriving #cellphonesdriving #ifags

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:10 pm Marko

      Exactly. I’m an avid cyclist and ride in traffic frequently. I look at drivers and try to make eye contact with them because my life depends on it. 90% of the drivers doing dumb shit with their phones are female. Doesn’t matter if there are kids in the car – they’re always fucking with their phones.

      I was one of the first people in my crew to get an iFag in 2008. I’ve since downgraded to the shittiest no frills touch screen phone I could find. I’m now trying to downgrade again and find a nokia flip. I may have to go on ebay.

      Molon Labe.

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:20 pm wolfie65

        I ride and/or skate in traffic every day, women, seniors, gay guys and Vietnam vets are the most dangerous drivers. The women and gays are only focused on themselves, the world around them doesn’t matter, the seniors can’t see or react to anything faster than a snail, and the vets hate the world.
        I have a Kyocera Royale, it looks like a medieval brick next to what’s out today, but has worked since 2004.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 8:45 am M Rad

        I resisted the smartphone trend with a Nokia 6301 candybar phone and a Palm TX, later the N810 tablet. Bluetooth tethering gave me internet whenever I needed it, but I could go lightweight with just the phone’s rinky-dink little screen if I wanted. There aren’t, however, many modern choices in pocket size tablets these days; the new 6″ Kindle might fit the bill, or the discontinued Galaxy player, but the ipod touch won’t BT tether. (I think you need an app to tether Android)

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  16. on September 26, 2014 at 3:32 pm Spot The Alpha | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  17. on September 26, 2014 at 4:06 pm Bert

    He’s taking a picture or checking out her bra insert.

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  18. on September 26, 2014 at 4:20 pm Piatti

    thought you had to be mature enough to shave to be alpha …my bad

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  19. on September 26, 2014 at 4:47 pm Piatti

    here ..spot the alpha

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 11:23 pm Anonymous

      Guys leaning in to her. He’s clearly omega.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 11:12 pm anon

        It’s Pablo Picasso fool. No omega. Look him up.

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    • on September 28, 2014 at 4:58 am Dr. Vandal Savage

      honestly, just looking at it with no knowledge I would have thought that was his daughter

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  20. on September 26, 2014 at 5:20 pm elmer

    Off-topic but science has been enlisted in The War on Trolls :

    Abstract

    In two online studies (total N = 1215), respondents completed personality inventories and a survey of their Internet commenting styles. Overall, strong positive associations emerged among online commenting frequency, trolling enjoyment, and troll identity, pointing to a common construct underlying the measures. Both studies revealed similar patterns of relations between trolling and the Dark Tetrad of personality: trolling correlated positively with sadism, psychopathy, and Machiavellianism, using both enjoyment ratings and identity scores. Of all personality measures, sadism showed the most robust associations with trolling and, importantly, the relationship was specific to trolling behavior. Enjoyment of other online activities, such as chatting and debating, was unrelated to sadism. Thus cyber-trolling appears to be an Internet manifestation of everyday sadism.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 5:23 pm elmer

      Readers unable to grasp the journal article may find a better explanation in the popular press :

      http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 1:53 am Glengarry

        Next: what about the trolls that write the text above the comment section, like Jezebel, Buzzfeed and on and tedious on? Science will find they fit the same profile, except statistically significant low g, high W (whaleness) and high AZT blood concentrations.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 10:59 am Kate

        histrionic personality disorder

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  21. on September 26, 2014 at 5:52 pm Libertardian

    From the feed:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1342728/oklahoma-beheading-fired-mans-knife-rampage

    “A man who had just been sacked at an Oklahoma food plant decapitated one female worker and stabbed another before he was shot and wounded by the boss. … Mark Vaughn, chief operating officer of the business and also a reserve police officer, is being hailed as a hero after he shot Nolen while the suspect was stabbing a second woman.”

    That racist, islamophobic, chauvinist gun nut deprived those women of the opportunity to defend themselves, which they could have done every bit as well as him while being paid 30% less for it.

    “According to the state department of corrections, Nolen was convicted in 2011 of marijuana possession, intent to distribute cocaine, escape from detention and assault on a police officer.”

    Gun nuts…doing the jobs the justice system won’t.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 6:36 pm Arbiter

      All the neocons and Zionists like Drudge are now presenting this as a “Muslim” killing a woman. It’s a Black, period. Why don’t they call the 1.4 million gang members “Christians” when they kill someone?

      Christian immigrants and Muslim immigrants in Europe act exactly the same. Syrians act the same no matter what their religion, Arabs act the same no matter what their religion, Latinos and Africans act the same no matter what their religion. Muslim Iranian and Indonesian immigrants act far better than Christian Arabs, Christian Syrians, Christian Blacks, Christian Latinos. Out of all the darker-skinned groups, the ones from Iran are the only ones who go to higher education in the same percentage as Whites.

      The Black gangs and the ones who play “gangsta rap” are “Christians” If the Arab gangs are “Muslim”. But in fact the Arab gangs that emulate the Blacks are not the least bit Muslim: they drink alcohol which is completely forbidden in Islam, and the girls in the gangs don’t wear veils. Their parents may have been religious but the vast majority of second-gen immigrants join the “gangsta” culture, which the neocon lovers say zero about. They like it. More destruction of the “racist” West.

      Screw all the neocon propaganda about “Muslim” immigrants, and screw all the cowards who talk about “Muslim immigration” because they are too afraid to name race. Their Jew-derived argument comes to its logical end with the conclusion that “immigration is A-okay as long as they’re not Islamists”, and that’s what these infiltrators try to impose on nationalist parties. The “Catholic faction” in Front National does this. The sheep who make up most of a party’s membership once it gets off the ground then swallow the Zionist line, hoping the media will stop attacking them when they start obsessing about religion instead of naming race. And those who built the party, those who tell the truth, are thrown out by the new Zionist-loyal leaders who capitalize on what the founders have built. It’s ridiculous.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 7:36 am thwack

        Arbiter
        All the neocons and Zionists like Drudge are now presenting this as a “Muslim” killing a woman. It’s a Black, period.
        ———————————————————————————–

        uh… I think I gotta side with the zionists and neocons on this one.

        You don’t hafta cut someones head ALL THE WAY OFF to kill them with a knife. For some Africans Islam is like cocaine.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 12:04 pm corvinus

        Muslims do act worse than Christians. Don’t kid yourself.

        That means we have to keep out Muslims of whatever race, and Africans.

        If we admitted a bunch of Indonesians and Malaysians, they’d eventually start doing the same crap as the Arabs.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 6:41 pm Libertardian

      Tucker is dealing with narcissistic rage. He defamed Roosh but doesn't know anyone's name? dangerandplay.com/2014/07/27/tuc… http://t.co/qplAbUWYB4—
      Mike Cernovich (@PlayDangerously) September 26, 2014

      He has a point about the alpha/beta dichotomy in nature being different than the one we apply to humans, but this:

      “the idea that you’re either in charge and on top or not just doesn’t code to reality at all.”

      Odd, he ought to understand female hypergamy, the 20/80 rule, etc as well as anyone. And our society is becoming ever more defined by winner-take-all scenarios, many even more pronounced than the sexual market – CEOs, celebrities, pro athletes, I-bankers, even academics and PC hucksters.

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  22. on September 26, 2014 at 6:50 pm Hammer of Love

    I was hoping to get the Château readers opinion on the following phenomenon. Is this a reactionary maneuver by the hamsters, to atone for all the, raw-dog, threesomes they had in their early teens and twenties ? Are white, western, women really this far gone ?

    Rhetorical, I know.

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 7:24 pm wolfie65

      They should put the ‘before’ pic up on the website that tells ’em about the all the virgins they’ll get if they blow themselves up somewhere. Most effective recruitment tool ever!

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      • on September 26, 2014 at 7:47 pm Hammer of Love

        That’s not entirely correct, I think all they need to do, to get the virgins, is to die in battle.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 3:55 pm browndar

      “Is this a reactionary maneuver by the hamsters, to atone for all the, raw-dog, threesomes they had in their early teens and twenties?”

      No, women have no compunction for their slatty behaviors. Women are, first and always, herd animals. They see that musloids are running roughshod over their own limpwristed, quasi-sodomite Brit white boys; in other words, musloids are WINNING. Women always want to identify with and be with the winners, and that’s why they’re going full musloid. Europe is lost.

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    • on September 30, 2014 at 6:43 pm OldGuy

      She better cover her face, pronto.

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  23. on September 26, 2014 at 7:08 pm AlphaBeta

    Off fucking topic: western civilization is officially done http://www.vocativ.com/underworld/sex/stuffers-pack-pounds-satisfy-sexual-desires/

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    • on September 28, 2014 at 12:04 am ZombieShane

      Yeah for realz…the Jews are destroying it. Part ot their plan to annihilate the master race, plus we gotta but more white buns in white ovens am I right fellas??

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  24. on September 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm Hammer of Love

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    • on September 28, 2014 at 5:01 am Dr. Vandal Savage

      These videos don’t tell the other side of the story…when they LEAVE Islam after a few years. Like 70% of Muslim converts leave that religion within a year.

      Many of the white girls convert to marry a (usually Arab) Muslim and adopt his religion

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  25. on September 26, 2014 at 7:19 pm Hammer of Love

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  26. on September 26, 2014 at 7:37 pm Will

    If the dude on his phone was interested in this girl a lot he would be grinding on her harder and making out with her.

    Her interest is way higher than his, hence why he is on his phone and not making out.

    The question is a) what happened after this. Context does matter.

    But regardless it’s an aloof mindset for the guy.

    I think we should all comment a ‘what would be the next move for the guy’….
    Isolate her within 10 minutes and escalate kino. Probably not even say anything just grab her and move somewhere

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  27. on September 26, 2014 at 7:39 pm Will

    And this looks like a middle school dance.

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  28. on September 26, 2014 at 7:47 pm Anonymous

    My brother suggeste I mighyt like this website. He waas totakly right.
    This post actually made myy day. You cann’t imsgine simply howw much tme I had spent forr this info!
    Thanks!

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    • on September 26, 2014 at 8:48 pm Z0mbie Shane

      Stop wasting your time here, and go put some buns (non Jewish, chimp or armadillo, of course) in your oven!

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 6:57 am oralc

        Thread winner

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  29. on September 26, 2014 at 10:33 pm Rum

    Well, I just finished reading, “The Evolutionary Psychology Behind Politics.” (by Anonymous)
    The book is, by a wide margin, the best one ever written in the long history of mans struggle to understand the shit that is happening — and always seems to happen.
    Amen.
    Zombie S – Zhooish ovens can be very warm, when they are properly stoked. And bake Children that are eventually to be called “Chief Surgeon” or IT director of an Oil Company you may have heard of.

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  30. on September 26, 2014 at 11:23 pm ZombieShame

    We should all hope that zombie shane abandons technology. A Luddite would not stay online all day trying to be early in the comments then obsessively checking back to respond to each and every interaction.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 8:46 am ZombieShame

      THIS is NOT me! Get your own Zombie name

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 6:11 pm JohnDSee

      Fucking faggot jewtard. Who monitors how often someone else comments and at what time? The concerns of a junior high chic. Pssh.

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  31. on September 26, 2014 at 11:24 pm ZombieShame

    The only buns he is putting in the oven anytime soon are the ones at Subway.

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  32. on September 27, 2014 at 2:40 am Spot The Alpha | Truth and contradictions | Sc...

    […] I expect a few literal-minded readers to take the wrong lesson from this photo. “Phonebomb game!  […]

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  33. on September 27, 2014 at 8:33 am Live n Learn

    Off topic, oh what the heck… this is always on topic 😉

    http://time.com/3433014/men-women-dating-mid-20s/

    Noooooo… wht are u saying… they want the ‘life experience, maturity, etc.,.

    the FB comments are hilarious… hamsters, white knighting, beta boyz… the works..

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  34. on September 27, 2014 at 10:34 am Kevin

    The more and more I think about the whole “Alpha” thing, its about Testosterone. Men with higher testosterone levels are more aggressive, less depressed, typically have higher serotonin levels. Look at how many guys are fighting low T level issues. We are assaulted by stress, environmental pollution (birth control pills in ground water and waste, soy consumption, an education system that hammers down males – its turning our levels into a nose dive. Anybody’s thoughts on this?

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  35. on September 27, 2014 at 10:57 am Glengarry

    Offa the topic but thanks to modern technology and a worldwide community of altruists you can here conveniently assess the evolving SMV of a starlet, Vanessa Hudgens: http://www.celebjihad.com/celeb-jihad/new-vanessa-hudgens-nude-cell-phone-pics-leaked

    Born 1988. Pics from 2007 (age 19), 2009 (age 21), 2011 (age 23) and 2014 (age 25). We would by the way like to thank Vanessa for providing this material in such a convenient time series.

    Now compare, if you will, your judgements with what the SMV chart would predict given age. Spot on.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 1:06 pm cryo

      At 25 she’s already looking a little worn. I’m sure miles of dick have played a part in that. Her skin has an unappealing color and her face is honestly rather ugly.

      Other than that, would.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 5:00 am Glengarry

        Looks promising at 19, peak hotness at 21, a little off the peak at 23, and the bloom is off the rose at 25. Ah well.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 9:27 pm driveallnight

      wb

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  36. on September 27, 2014 at 11:00 am earl

    “I wanna see just how aloof he can get.”

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  37. on September 27, 2014 at 1:58 pm martin

    Is that Steve McQueen in the bath?

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 2:25 pm Zombie Shane

      Yeah, but apparently it’s not from a movie?
      http://www.art.com/products/p14024575-sa-i2829639/john-dominis-actor-steve-mcqueen-and-wife-taking-sulfur-bath-at-home.htm

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  38. on September 27, 2014 at 2:15 pm Zombie Shane

    Mom irate when 2nd grade teacher refuses vagina cookies
    http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/09/24/mom-irate-when-2nd-grade-teacher-refuses-vagina-cookies/

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 2:16 pm Zombie Shane

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 2:22 pm Zombie Shane

        Keep an eye out for the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. We are so fucked.

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 4:47 pm Hammer of Love

        I wonder if my penis shaped éclairs would be acceptable ?

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      • on September 27, 2014 at 6:40 pm Zombie Shane

        Dude, if you sent a tray of penis-shaped eclairs to a school in the USA, they’d lock up your ass for 20-to-life, and if you ever got out, you’d be a registered sex offender for the remainder of your days.

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  39. on September 27, 2014 at 2:49 pm anon

    That guy in the whirlpool is clearly the refractory phase.

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  40. on September 27, 2014 at 3:00 pm Travis Bickle

    Scray: This article you lined to:

    http://boldanddetermined.com/2011/10/26/the-secret-to-gaining-muscle-part-ii-the-truth-about-steroids/

    is COMPLETE bs. You can’t get huge and lean naturally? Pffft. My friend went into prison in his early 20’s lean and muscular, like a male model. When he got out ten years later, he was huge. Looked fat when wearing a shirt. Ripped. You could tell from ten feet away he never touched roids. Real muscle looks completely different then juiced muscle. He achieved all this with no supplements. Packs of tuna, chicken,and serious lifting. Ruined his joints though. Eventually lost all his size, but still ripped eight years after getting out. The article also states that steroid use is healthy. I have known over a dozen juicers, they all ended up looking horrible, with serious mental issues.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 5:29 pm Scray

      So because your friend (who may have had superstar elite genetics) got “huge and lean,” this must change the bell curve?

      Come on, that’s flawed reasoning from the start. My guess is that your friend just had a big frame.

      Otherwise, if you’re saying he looked like the majority of fitness models in his clothes and he was natty, I’m going to call bullshit. My guess is that you either think “ripped” starts at a higher bodyfat percentage than it does, or you have lower standards for what “huge” muscles are.

      And I didn’t comment on whether steroid use was unhealthy or healthy — that’s a different discussion.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 9:17 am Travis Bickle

        Good genetics ? Definitely, he was a pussy magnet since middle school. When I say huge ,I mean big or bigger than most serious weight lifting juice heads. Ripped, I mean 8% body fat.

        Not all people, but many men who are willing to commit the years and years of strict diet and sleep schedule can achieve the results.

        I am not one of those men. I am an endomorph, one who hates lifting weights. To stay in shape I eat right and do intense cardio; heavy bags , running, biking. At 6’4″ and 200 pounds I look real skinny. At 180 (my supposed normal BMI for my height – heh)my friends think I am on meth or have cancer. Very large frame. Still, I don’t have a six pack, and without PED’s, I never will. I don’t sweat it.

        For the most part, steroid muscle looks like shit.Not at all real. That’s why they have to take diuretics to look even half way normal.

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 11:33 am Scray

        Okay, so you admit that your friend had elite .00001% genes. That destroys your argument’s potential effect on the bell curve.

        I disagree that “steroid muscle looks like shit.” It looks like any other muscle. I believe you’re commenting on the bloat that comes with steroid use. Yeah, sure, that does look a little gross.

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  41. on September 27, 2014 at 3:13 pm Seth

    If these are alphas, western society is f@cked.

    Death these days comes in the slow suffering and cultural annihilation form, and there haven’t been any real white men en masse for the last seventy years at least.

    PS If we continue the war in the Middle East, not only will we see more asylum seekers, but whilst the Muslims will recover over decades, the other white man will use this time to further disempower and disenfranchise whites until they become a diaspora in each and every country they were a majority in. The US already acts like the antichrist along with the UK.Yiu have been warned.

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    • on September 27, 2014 at 3:40 pm Zombie Shane

      Check out the pictures of the Libtards at the Clooney nuptials – these motherfuckers are ANCIENT!!! Clooney oughtta be a grandfather by now. The Libtards haven’t been making any babies, and very soon they are all going to vanish into extinction.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2772042/George-Clooney-spotted-arriving-wedding-venue-Aman-Canal-Grande-Venice-suave-tuxedo-Bill-Murray-Matt-Damon-Emily-Blunt-John-Krasinski-make-watery-entrance.html

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 12:26 am Live n Learn

        As much as I think he is a dumbass for getting married again, to a friggin lawyer of all people, remember that the guy was married a long time ago and likely got burned so bad he didn’t think abt getting married to anyone for a couple decades… hopefully that prenup holds, esp in commie kalifornia!

        Guess age and whatever lunacy about growing old alone got a hold of him.. Not everything works out in textbook fashion like u’d like ZS

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 6:46 am Zombie Shane

        The dude has gray hair – almost white. He ditched his first wife in 1993 [at the age of 32], won the ER gig in 1994 [age of 33], then spent the next TWO DECADES doing absolutely nothing! This ceremony should have been for one of his children getting married – a child born in the late 1980s or early 1990s. These libtards are unbreeding themselves right out of existence.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney

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  42. on September 27, 2014 at 5:56 pm The Anti-Gnostic

    Damn. Should I start smoking again?

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  43. on September 27, 2014 at 6:30 pm DeNihilist

    Or this screed about the nancy boys of today –

    http://takimag.com/article/never_trust_anyone_who_hasnt_been_punched_in_the_face/print#ixzz3EZ7yyplp

    “A man who has been in a fight or played violent sports has experienced more of life and manhood than a man who hasn’t. Fisticuffs, wrestling matches, knife fights, violent sport, duels with baseball bats, facing down guns, or getting crushed in the football field—men who have had these experiences are different from men who have not. Men who have trained for or experienced such encounters know about bravery and mental fortitude from firsthand experience. Men who have been tested physically know that inequality is a physical fact. Men who know how to deal out violence know that radical feminism’s tenets—that women and men are equal—are a lie. We know that women are not the same as men: not physically, mentally, or in terms of moral character. “

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  44. on September 27, 2014 at 8:16 pm bicklerain

    I dunno. The phone guy looks so faggy. If you can’t enjoy a hot girl making out with you and being really into it, what’s the point? He’s probably just another guy who is his phone’s bitch, and the hot girl is probably an escort.

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  45. on September 27, 2014 at 8:17 pm bicklerain

    The guy in the back is more in tune with his sexuality, and I bet he gets consistently higher quality dames than the guy in front.

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  46. on September 27, 2014 at 8:19 pm bicklerain

    Now Steve motherfucking McQueen is the opposite of phone fag: He’s enjoying his woman’s sexuality while being aloof and detached in a healthy and recognizably human male type of way.

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  47. on September 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm walawala

    @Having a Bad Day/YaReally anyone else following my posts. I had a stellar Friday night with a 25 year old I had long-gamed. She’d left for a working holiday and returned. Last week I set up a drinks after a party for some visiting performance artists. She showed up looking sexy in a very wholesome way. I danced with her and she was keen to work out a “signal” on when we would leave for drinks. What was interesting was that orbiters were lamely trying to game her. One guy awkwardly put his arm around her and she bristled as if being touched by a creepy uncle. The rest of the night was text book escalation. But she had to be home so despite heavy make out and balls grabbing I dropped her off at her home. She was texting me all day with racy messages. The point here is that the sub-communication is something often invisible to people in the room. We both knew we were going to be all over each other but to the outside world we were complete strangers.

    On Saturday I went to my weekly Latin dance party. It was my crazy ex gf’s bday. I did not send any texts and haven’t had contact for 3 months. She came without a bloke all dressed up. Orbiters surrounded her. I ignored her for the night. But there is a tradition where the birthday girl or guy has a dance and guys rotate through and dance for a bit–usually like 30-40 seconds, then next.

    I sat there and then thought, shit it’s her birthday sitting there would appear butt-hurt so I walked over to finish off the dance with 40 seconds left. She was dancing with a married friend of mine. Normally the guy sees the next guy and let’s the girl go. That didn’t happen. The dude kept on dancing. I stood there politely. They kept going. I shrugged, laughed and walked back. A few people laughed with the thinking that the guy just wanted to be with her because she is hot. I knew her hamster was in over-drive.

    After the dance my friend came over and apologized and offered a beer. “What was that about?” I asked. “She wouldn’t let me go, she kept holding me while I tried to let her go” he said apologizing more. Right…she wanted to embarrass me or her hamster was in over-drive, her birthday was something we celebrated and had a drama with last year.

    So her and I knew the deal. I explained to my friend that i’d told her to fuck off 9 months ago and she must still be pissed about it. He laughed and said sorry again. I grabbed another girl to dance and carried on.

    When I got back to my seat…who should appear standing over me holding a piece of birthday cake? Crazy…”Would you like a piece of my birthday cake?” she said innocently. Cool as fuck I said “No thanks….” and turned away.

    Classic Borderline Personality Disorder behavior….push..then pull within minutes. Classic hamster in over-drive. My approach triggered a wave of emotions. I continued dancing, having beers with my friends including the dude who kept apologizing and left just before closing ignoring her.

    A few reasons to post this: 1) subcommunication….to the outside world people would have thought it was my friend who didn’t want to let her go…
    2) hamster in over-drive…leading to irrational behavior: anger, childish acting out…then regret. It’s the kind of self-sabotaging behavior a 36 year old rationalizes with “Asshole wouldn’t even share my birthday cake with me” kind of thinking. 3) don’t acknowledge or take the bait. A year ago I would have been more upset and emotional about this. I just shrugged it off.

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    • on September 29, 2014 at 7:17 am Sentient

      Good for you for feeling you shrugged it off. It still seems though that you were in her frame, you stepped in when you THOUGHT about how you would be perceived by not dancing with her… In her frame right then. The rest is just a master class by her in manipulation.

      1) She gets you coming over and validating her, 2) she gets to disrespect you in front of your group in a plausibly deniable way (guy wouldn’t let go of her), 3) she gets to show everyone she is caring by bringing you a piece of cake to assuage your feelings and 4) she gets everyone to see your bitter reaction to her generous offer of a “peace” of cake. Sorry Wala, she played you. She has some talent I will say.

      The BEST thing you could do, IMO, is win her back, fuck her like a doll and then leave her cold without another word to her ever…

      The second best thing you could do is stop going out where she is. Just cut her out from your life completely.

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 7:52 am walawala

        …or show up with a younger, hotter and tighter one…

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 7:56 am Sentient

        Someone this narcissistic would more likely view that as you attempting to make her jealous, try hard stuff.

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 8:15 am walawala

        @Sentient honestly, it was a genuine outreach in the spirit of the tradition. I would have done that with any other number of girls celebrating their birthday. It just never occurred to me there would be drama…

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 10:56 am Hunter

        @Sentient Yeah I agree. Wala you were in her frame buddy.

        Glad you shrugged it off, man. Good progress in a year. However:

        “It still seems though that you were in her frame, you stepped in when you THOUGHT about how you would be perceived by not dancing with her… In her frame right then. The rest is just a master class by her in manipulation.”

        To add on to that, that thought should not be something that occurs to you. Cuz you only care about what YOU want to do, not how you’re perceived.

        If I were you, I wouldn’t even have bothered initiating contact/dancing at the party. Yeah it SEEMS butthurt to not dance, but you’re deciding to ignore her ON YOUR OWN TERMS. That’s the whole point.

        I’ll say this again: you really should stop talking about your ex gf. I don’t see what the point is of talking about your progress with her when the goal is to cut her out of your emotional life completely.

        Like, the end goal is to not talk about her, so why even bring her up?

        “What was that about?” I asked. (you asked this to the guy who danced with her)

        Why even ask, you already know why it happened.

        “When I got back to my seat…who should appear standing over me holding a piece of birthday cake? Crazy…”Would you like a piece of my birthday cake?” she said innocently. Cool as fuck I said “No thanks….” and turned away.”

        That didn’t look cool man, that looked bitter (would’ve looked cool if the whole dancing situation didn’t happen). I would’ve just been like, “Sure, thanks.” That would’ve been so much better cuz THEN you’d look like you actually don’t care. But by caring how you looked, you ended up displaying your real feelings for everyone to see. If that makes sense.

        “2) hamster in over-drive…leading to irrational behavior: anger, childish acting out…then regret. It’s the kind of self-sabotaging behavior a 36 year old rationalizes with “Asshole wouldn’t even share my birthday cake with me” kind of thinking.”

        This didn’t happen. She’s thinking “Aww he still cares about me after all this time.”

        “3) don’t acknowledge or take the bait.”

        Hook, line, and sinker.

        Not trying to be rude but every time you bring her up, it really just reinforces that she’s important in your mind. Even though you’ve banged other women, I feel like you still see your ex has higher value than these chicks. Maybe I’m wrong. Am I?

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 10:58 am Hunter

        “honestly, it was a genuine outreach in the spirit of the tradition. ”

        Which is fine, but then you turned down her cake, which made it seem butthurt. Have a comment in mod explaining this.

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 12:06 pm Sentient

        @walawala but you wrote “I sat there and then thought, shit it’s her birthday sitting there would appear butt-hurt so I walked over”

        Sitting there would appear butt-hurt… to whom? That’s what I meant, you were in her frame when you had that thought, before you ever went over to her. You didn’t write, I value this tradition so I went over to uphold it, and be damned what anyone else thought.

        The first thought put you in her frame. She read the situation for maximum value to her. She has skills.

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      • on September 29, 2014 at 5:59 pm walawala

        @Sentient/Hunter Good insights. I miscalculated and didn’t think it through. But good learnings. Do I see her as “higher value”? Well, to be honest the situation is my ego feels the injury of being dumped for another dude.

        Sure I’ve been banging and meeting younger, hotter and tighter. But there is a feeling that my “value” went down. That is probably the motivation for getting up to dance in that public setting.

        But…yes submitting to someone else’s frame means giving up your own. Caring about how you’re perceived by others is co-dependent. Just means i’ll need to be more aware of my motivations and triggers.

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      • on September 30, 2014 at 7:49 am Sentient

        @walawala “to be honest the situation is my ego feels the injury of being dumped for another dude.”

        OK now it all makes sense, this recursive loop of the “crazy x GF” in your threads. She hurt you and you really want to hurt her back. You want revenge. Or reconciliation.

        I’d say forget that. Use this stage of your life as a chrysalis… complete your transformation from a Beta to an Alpha, emerge and don’t look back.

        This is the thing that made me go from beta to full tilt alpha, cheated on by a GF… then got to a place quickly thereafter where I truly did not give a fuck about women at all… Went on a year and a half full alpha tear, buzzsawing through women, nexting without a moment’s thought, harem… all that.

        Forget her, change your dance group so you no longer see her and get on with your life. She is still holding you back.

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      • on September 30, 2014 at 11:02 am walawala

        @Sentient I know that feeling. There should be a post on the post cheating recovery. I went to work, banged 10 other women—most under 30. Now seeing 3 all 25-26. No one likes to “lose”….it’s not in my DNA. My focus now is on the bigger strategy….inner game, confidence, not tactics. Whatever demons there are they have to be slayed one by one…not easy but it’s gotta be done.

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      • on September 30, 2014 at 11:45 am Hunter

        @walawala

        “I know that feeling. There should be a post on the post cheating recovery.”

        The solution is the same thing we’ve been saying for ages now. STOP SEEING/COMMUNICATING WITH THAT CHICK. 3 months clearly ain’t enough.

        I can’t read your posts about your ex anymore man, cuz the situation is going nowhere. YaReally already told you what to do MONTHS ago but you keep repeating the same stuff. You need to X that girl out of your life for good. There is no going back to her, and you’re never going to be with her again. The way you are now, you can’t handle it. Like, you can’t cheat personal development (if you still feel hurt by her, you feel hurt by her, no matter how hot any other girl you fuck actually is).

        The best revenge is living well. So live… far away from her. Never see her again (online or real life) for 2 years or more. Is that so difficult???

        “Whatever demons there are they have to be slayed one by one…not easy but it’s gotta be done.”

        X her out (hint: she’s the “demon” you mentioned above… so get rid of her) and your life will be SO MUCH BETTER.

        Good luck. Deleting someone from your life is hard, but you get used to it. That’s life after all.

        @Sentient

        “Forget her, change your dance group so you no longer see her and get on with your life. She is still holding you back.”

        Burn this into your brain, dude. I couldn’t have said it any better myself.

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  48. on September 27, 2014 at 9:13 pm PIATTI

    question..what’s more alpha..?

    being able to approach any woman with natural charm and ease ..score and bed 50 -100 women a year..rotating harem ect ..a club successful life

    or

    to have independently earned your financial freedom at an early age and you have a personal assistant, a cook, 2 maids, 2 gardeners and your own business w 6 employees .. you date successfully easy enough 6-8’s occasional 9..you run the show with women but are not nuanced as honed PA..you own your life ..can write a check for 10 grand as an after thought.. and live a free creative productive life..

    and at what age do a man’s motives and things he cares about change..

    20’s 30’s 40’s..

    cant you do both..? not really

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    • on September 29, 2014 at 7:08 am Sentient

      What’s more alpha is doing what YOU want to do, without seeking comparisons or apology.

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  49. on September 27, 2014 at 10:36 pm Promethean

    “Marriage is to keep women from being dumped by alphas, and betas from being dumped by women.”

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  50. on September 28, 2014 at 6:55 am Forgot password

    Muslim rioters attacking police in Moscow (police is helplessly watching):

    Meanwhile Putin soldiers and mercenary scum are shelling Ukrainian villages.White Europe is done.

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    • on September 28, 2014 at 1:51 pm Hammer of Love

      As much as it pains me to say this it, this kind of shit would never fly in Soviet Communist times.

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      • on September 28, 2014 at 2:34 pm Forgot password

        True.In Soviet times the areal of sheep shaggers was pretty much limited by their villages.

        But Putin had opened the flood 15 years back and there is noway back now.

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  51. on October 1, 2014 at 2:30 pm Cpc

    Okay I get the first picture. The second and third however are completely ludicrous. In the second how do you not know that is just his daughter? Third picture, it’s just two people in a tub, the chick is being “aloof” too.

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